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Summer Let Down

 The weather is hot.  Humid in some places.  Summer has arrived but not the dog days yet.  The great Jubilee is over with mostly joy, celebration, some unity and very little disruptive other.  

But now, not a lot of big events on the horizon.  Ascot.  Check.  Wimbledon - almost 2 weeks.  Check.  These are big but also normal events scheduled year after year.  Routine.  Everyone knows the drill.  Nothing like the levels of people and planning for the Jubilee.

We are seeing or rather not seeing the Queen attending more and more "events".  That's a big change.  And, one which appears to portend the future.

In the Kubler Ross stages of death, one of them is bargaining.  I want to live to see ...  X.  Or Y.  One last time for ... and then, I feel I can ... 

After one of my grandmothers passed, my grandfather made it through his birthday, her birthday and then,  a week after the wedding anniversary, he passed on.  So I think of bargaining more and more now that the super big event is over.

Also the Queen has taken a lot of heavy emotional hits in the last year or so.  Mmm, that's not good in the words of the 'death experts' with their charts.  

Physically as well.  We read more and more of "mobility" problems.  And we don't hear it but this may mean pain.  

She has, to her credit, the steely resolve of the promise she made decades ago to help carry her through and forward.  A lesser person would have wilted through all the various events she has lived.  The good, the bad and the painful.

I worry about her as she slowly, slowly appears to wind down.  I wonder how she views the future now? 

Or how the monarchy will change once London Bridge has fallen?  

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Sandie said…
Forgive my presumption please, but I have copied the last post from the previous thread here:

June 14, 2022 at 4:18 PM
Blogger Henrietta said...
From SecondhandCoke on Reddit:

Here's what I heard: the Jubilee failure has had a giant impact on the Sussexes and their future.

Netflix has had a contract with the Sussexes for two years now and has gotten nothing for it. They are allegedly at the end of their rope with Harry and Meghan, and see no further use for their "partnership" with Netflix. However, Harry and Meghan are desperate for money, and the Netflix, Spotify, and Harry's book deals are their last hope. (Well, I've heard reports of one other, but this past weekend probably killed that one too). We've had headlines that there is no release date in sight for Harry's memoirs, Meghan promised Archetypes to debut in Summer, but it's mid-June and not a word has been said about it...that leaves Netflix.

Earlier today, BarkJacks published a post alluding to Harry and Meghan, their mental health, and canceled meetings. Well, assuming BarkJack is talking about the Sussexes, they don't specifically name them, my information is that at least one of those canceled meetings was between the Markles and Netflix. H&M are allegedly consumed with anxiety about their financial future and are scrambling for time, thinking that they can still pitch a project that will be of enough interest that Netflix will continue to work with them. The Sussexes are throwing every idea at the wall to see if it will stick, so that they can maybe return Netflix's calls or even meet with them face to face, and the idea that is their frontrunner is allegedly this history of polo/polo programming. And as to whether Netflix will go for it, all I can say is, "Would you watch that?"

Now, I can't say for sure whether or not the Netflix contract is going to be terminated, nor do I know what that would mean regarding the Markles having to return any fronted money to Netflix. But, contracts are pretty quid pro quo at their core, and the Netflix/Markle contract says some version of "Netflix will give you money if you generate content that makes Netflix money." The Markles haven't generated any content, much less made Netflix any money. What will ultimately happen if they don't fulfill their side of the contract seems pretty straightforward. It's been two years since the deal was officially made. Netflix is allegedly in financial trouble of their own. If you were Netflix, what would be your next move? Produce a polo show? Continue to work with a couple that costs more than they generate? Exactly.
Sandie said…
Great anchor post for this new thread!

Love the way the Queen is now embracing her mobility issues with ornate walking aids!

Off topic perhaps ... I was remembering the love story of Andre Agassi and Steffi Graff, two top achievers and very well-known people. They live quietly in his home town of Las Vegas, where he established a school and a tennis coaching academy, all for the under privileged, and she has a foundation that works mainly in Africa I think. They manage to raise money and significantly change lives with lasting effects .. all without endless publicity and virtue signalling. And who would be able to identify their children, who are now adults?

The ex-royals of Montecito are endlessly in the tabloids and get attention because that is what they want. Yet, they achieve nothing lasting or significant. Not since the Kardashians has such shallowness and superficiality got so much attention!
Sandie said…
https://spectatorworld.com/topic/remarkable-meghan-markle/

I am not a subscriber so cannot view the whole article, but this is not the sort of media the duo actively seek!
Girl with a Hat said…
thanks for the new thread, Abbyh
abbyh said…
Hang with me people.

Unexpected work emergency which means I cannot respond for a while for moderation.

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OCGal said…
I am disheartened to see Her Majesty The Queen looking so terribly frail in the official Order of the Garter photo taken on Monday.

See https://pagesix.com/2022/06/13/queen-elizabeth-ii-uses-cane-in-order-of-the-garter-photo/

At first I didn’t actually believe it to be HM. I thought maybe they had used a waxwork figure but discarded that thought. Three main things grabbed my attention:

1. The overly made-up face was so unusual, with too much foundation and rouge, too heavily filled-in brows, etc. I imagine her maquillage team was trying to make her look her usual lively, vibrant self but they went too far

2. I’m not sure if she is well enough to any longer wear foundation garments to tame her bosom. Prior to recently she was always so carefully kitted out “underneath” that one never thought of her generously endowed bosom, just that she was always trim and well turned out. Recently it doesn’t even look to me like she is wearing a foundation garment for her poitrine. This white dress was pretty discreet, but some others like the dress she wore with Paddington Bear weren’t so forgiving. Maybe she isn’t able to bear wearing a constricting brassiere

3. Her facial expression was a mask, a cypher, more like a obscured grimace than a smile. And her eyes looked blank. I believe she must’ve used almost-superhuman will to stand there for this official photo

Don’t misunderstand my words. I am not dissing HM in any way, shape or form, I simply have been painfully struck at how quickly she has gone from (seemingly) vibrant health and mental and physical vitality, to fading away before our very eyes. I have the greatest sympathy for her travails. I also am glad she is handing over more public-facing duties to Charles, William, Edward, and their spouses than they’ve previously handled.

I hope being surrounded by her well-accomplished, honorable and willing loved ones can be a comfort to her as time passes. From my lips to God’s ears…
DesignDoctor said…
Thanks for the new topic Abby.
I am very sad to see Her Majesty slowing down. She has been the rock of the BRF. She is amazing!
From the last thread I hope either Spotify or Netflix hold the grifters responsible. Someone needs to! I would not watch or listen to anything those two produce or are involved in. Not interested. Full stop.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10914993/William-Kate-make-unannounced-visit-Grenfell-Tower-survivors-five-years-tragedy.html

Greenfell was 'Meghan's' cause - the visits to the kitchen (funded by the Royal Foundation, for which she did zero fund raising), the cookbook, the do on the lawn when she flew in her mother from America to attend and treated her prince as an annoying appendage (and glared at her mother when she dared to speak) ...

But the Greenfell survivors did not invite her to this high-profile memorial event. They invited the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge (hence they were not at Ascot). Ouch!
Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2022.06.14-143615/https://spectatorworld.com/topic/remarkable-meghan-markle/

Link to the full archived copy if the article!
I’m late to the party! 🤗
Thought I’d post the Spectator article Sandie mentions:

The unremarkable Meghan Markle
She is terminal bread and circuses, SoCal lights and vapid glamor
June 13, 2022 | 10:54 pm
Written by:
Gilbert T. Sewall

Two days after a May 24 elementary school shooting left nineteen children and two teachers dead and another seventeen injured, the wife of Britain’s Prince Harry made an unannounced visit with her camera crew to the Texas town of Uvalde.

Vanity Fair said, “She was spotted placing a bouquet of white flowers near a makeshift memorial,” not bothering to rewrite the press copy. Was spotted? In real time during the outing, aggressive publicists at Archewell were shopping and circulating copy and photos to media, getting instant pickup by Yahoo News, People, Elle, and other outlets worldwide.

“The forty-year-old Duchess of Sussex — wearing jeans, a t-shirt and a blue baseball cap — reached down with her head bowed,” articles said, one after another. “She also walked around the memorial, looking at the white crosses bearing the names of the victims of Tuesday’s carnage.”

Uninvited, Meghan Markle had hopped on a private plane in Santa Barbara “as a mother.” Flying with staff, bodyguard and camera crew to a private airfield near Uvalde, she was whisked into a black van, amply photographed, and home before dark, job done, it’s a wrap. Was this some strange, sick, unspeakable parody of a royal visit? What the hell was it?

While any right-minded human being would steer away from such a ghastly charade, Meghan did not. Is she insane? Not exactly, although many of her least attractive qualities are tucked into the DSM-5.

With Meghan, there are too many fibs and fatuities to recount. “I grew up with that farm-to-table dining before it was sweeping the nation,” she says. “I do think there’s some value to really throwing yourself into food and embracing where it comes from.”

Remember the rescue chickens? “I just love rescuing,” Markle said, talking to Oprah Winfrey about basics and authenticity. They stood outside the chickens’ new home, cloyingly staged as Archie’s Chick Inn. At this emetic Oprah moment, any insightful person would say this phony is trolling us, click off the television set and walk out of the room. Meghan’s fans go in for this kind of dreck.

Remember biracial Althea Bernstein, the eighteen-year-old Madison, Wisconsin girl who improbably claimed “four classic Wisconsin frat boys” threw lighter fluid on her while stopped at a traffic light, and tried to set her afire? Major media tried to bury the obvious hoax, but Meghan had heard about Bernstein’s story. According to reports, she arranged a forty-minute call and the two “talked about the importance of self care and allowing herself to heal.” Her publicists triggered a brief media flurry on women’s and fashion sites to highlight Meghan’s racial consciousness — just before Bernstein’s full exposure.

But this faux pas was mere fanfare. As everyone knows, Meghan and Harry played the race card in March 2021 for Oprah. During the interview they professed that relentless racial hostility prompted their decision to leave the royal family.

Merchandizing Sussex in the US involves promises yet to be fulfilled: to provide exclusive Netflix content, Spotify podcasts and a four-book deal with Penguin Random House. The dollars are staggering. But Netflix has already canceled one venture, Spotify is waiting for product and the Harry memoir is delayed. The Archewell Foundation administered by a Beverly Hills sports and celebrity lawyer bespeaks 501c3 non-profit abuse for private ends.

After on-and-off drama before the Jubilee visit, the pair reportedly tried to secure photographs or film with the Queen and Prince William to use as part of the Netflix series they are filming. Palace officers worried they would share any photos with television networks. They never got the money shot. Royal choreography at the St. Paul’s Thanksgiving Service and elsewhere signaled cool distance and Harry’s secondary rank. Prince Harry and Meghan’s failure to land pictures, it is claimed, has dismayed Netflix executives. It might have led to their abrupt, early and rude departure from the Jubilee, again on a private jet.

From the age of twelve, Queen Elizabeth II as princess received tutoring in English history and British constitution from Eton’s venerable provost. She grew up respectful of the monarchy’s limits and demands. By all accounts reflective and kind, she spent down time in the countryside, horseback riding and walking her Pembroke Welsh corgis. (She has had thirty in her lifetime.)

By contrast Meghan is terminal LA bread and circuses. When she discovered how dull royal rounds and duties were, and that her silly causes were to be tabled, she yearned for the bright lights and the vapid glamor of SoCal, a place where she could flash dance and shine among sycophants.
Meghan has no clue about English constitutional history and the royal role therein. For her, it’s the celebrity A-list, the starring role, no more. Sovereign and state? Who knows, who cares. Her woke-lite, vegan today, climate change tomorrow nostrums — her dreamy Cinderella story with an equity angle — might enchant fans. She must have seemed dippy and crass to worldly London aristocrats.

British royals and peerage can be remarkably down to earth, even voluptuary in private (they hope) but manners, etiquette and codes of conduct in public are ironclad. Privacy and discretion are of paramount concern. Experienced, sympathetic advisers tried to school Meghan in how it’s done. They failed.

The English public resents Harry’s self-exile, an act thought to reveal a troubled soul overshadowed by his brother and sister-in-law. At Eton his academic performance was weak, and his behavior finally disruptive. The nation loved him nonetheless, as it did his late mother, Diana. Harry is an accomplished horseman and soldier. He is now widely seen as prey for a manipulative American adventuress, redolent of Wallis Simpson and Edward VIII.

There are thirty dukes of England and more peers. Many sponsor civic projects and good works like Harry’s Invictus Games. Harry would be better off, some say, living the life of an English country gent in familiar social circumstances. Instead he is an alien in the land of trust funds and everything-has-a-price merchandisers, playing charity polo while his brazen wife parades for the cameras. He is overseeing a book with a ghostwriter on a $20 million advance, a project behind schedule. “Harry Under Pressure,” the tabloids say. “Mystery Behind Missing Memoir.”

Despite her pretensions, Meghan is a very limited threat to the constitutional order. She will make trouble. But the majority of the British public has turned against the pair. The good will overflowing at the 2018 wedding, forbearing in style, has vanished.

Meghan’s flacks talk of a future run for the Senate from California, or even the presidency. This is DSM-5-level fantasy. Good judgment and introspection are not the pair’s strong suit, it seems, but don’t they know? The caravan moves on, always. As their hollow selves grow tiresome, the brand will likely fade. The Netflix cancelation and their unsteadiness suggest more psychodrama to come. The Sussexes are not emotionally prepared for derision or pity — nor are they ready to go away unnoticed.
Sandie said…
My opinion: The connection was between the Royal Foundation and the Greenfell community (William and Harry, sans wives, met with survivors at the site shortly after the tragedy). Meghan was a very new addition to the Royal Foundation trio and she was given the Greenfell connection as something useful she could do. The kitchen and the cookbook were not her ideas. To be fair, initially she did really well with this cause she was asked to support - photos of her, newly wed and pregnant, cooking with the women in the community kitchen were brilliant PR for the cookbook and fundraising for supporting the survivors. But then she flew in her mother and made the mistake of thinking it was all about her ...
Brown-eyed said…
@Sandie

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/remarkable-meghan-markle/
My fav paragraph in that article that you linked.

“ Meghan’s flacks talk of a future run for the Senate from California, or even the presidency. This is DSM-5-level fantasy. Good judgment and introspection are not the pair’s strong suit, it seems, but don’t they know? The caravan moves on, always. ”
Hikari said…
Over on the last thread I mused about the 'housing drama' with the Cambridges' proposed move to Windsor. Not sure why this is causing a kerfluffle in some circles; their lavishly renovated home at KP will still be their London base, and it was outfitted with the view of making it a suitable home and work/reception venue for the future Prince of Wales. The Windsor Great Park estate properties are 'in the family', ie, belong to the Crown whether occupied or vacant, so if the Cambridges use a cottage some of the time, they are hardly going to be abandoning their London residence. I mean, if Harry can still be considered a full-time resident of Frogmore Cottage when he's barely touched English soil for more than 2 years, then I think William is entitled to a town house, a country house and a cottage in addition.

I doubt a family move to Windsor would have been floated if the Queen was still based out of BP. She has chosen to live out her life and reign in the peace and quiet of her favorite castle, and that is her prerogative. I suppose the daily commute to Berkshire and back might be inconvenient, even if doable, and if William is to be on call to assist Granny in whatever she might need done, he is more convenient to her in Windsor. Also, George will be starting at Eton in only three years or so. The young man is turning 9 on his birthday next month. That might play into the decision as well. To be honest, though, I think this family move to Windsor is for the remainder of the Queen's life, however long that may be. Whether the Cambridges then move into Windsor Castle will depend on Charles's plans for it. He doesn't seem as enamored of Windsor as his mother, but Windsor Castle was her girlhood home, so it has got that sentimental attachment.

The Queen has worked tirelessly for 7 decades and she was perhaps too dedicated to her job, because she's trained everyone to the expectation that she be everywhere all the time. Having barely taken a day off in 70 years until the pandemic forced her to slow down, she finally got to have a reduced schedule and discovered that she liked it. Into her 90s she worked three times as much as people less than half her age. Having been so visible at 500 - 600 public engagements per year, her absence now except for a select handful of outings is even more noticeable than it would have been if she'd been scaling back gradually for the last 10 years or so. The inevitable future is approaching, yes, but the Queen's semi-retirement doesn't have to portend that the worst is imminent. If there was one blessing to a global pandemic, it was that it forced ER to stay at home and meant that she could spend the last precious year of Philip's life with him, seeing him daily. Were it not for the pandemic, I think she'd have kept up her normal punishing, absent schedule and he might have died at Wood Farm without her there.

Now her body is uncooperative, she's got to baby it and manage limited energies. It wouldn't be like Lilibet to throw the towel in; I imagine her in daily communion with Philip's memory and I can imagine him saying to her "Pull your socks up, old girl; you aren't in the final stretch yet." I want her to match Philip's longevity if not her mother's. Prayers go out to the RF; they need it on so many fronts.
Hikari said…
@OCGal,

Yes, HM looks very frail in that picture. She must have been in a great deal of pain, since normally she musters a smile. If she's got hip fractures, sciatica and the like, I don't have to imagine the screaming agony she could be in, because I have experienced it.

I'm wondering if there are other things besides a bad hip or back ailing her now. Like cancer? A possible stroke? Her decline since Philip's service has been fairly precipitous. She looked so well at the horse show she attended just a few weeks ago. I do wonder if she's got a terminal diagnosis of some kind. We are all terminal at 96 but it seems like HM may have run out of Good Days. Maybe she was powering through until Philip's anniversary service and the Jubilee and she's ready to go home now?

The silver lining in this cloud is that Charles and Camilla look robust in comparison and ready to step up to the plate. Camilla in particular was looking fabulous that day.

God bless Her Majesty and all her (true) family.

Happier Days
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SwampWoman said…
Oh, Abby, I agree completely about people living to complete certain milestones. I've been (quietly) concerned about this. She appears to be getting frailer by the day and fighting intractable pain through sheer nerve.

When she passes, we will not see another like her.
Thank you Sandie for the heads-up on the Spectator article. I have a 3-articles-a-month-for free subscription so was able to read it.

Gosh, anyone of us would have been proud to write it!

I remember my mum being very sad when the old king died. She felt very deeply that, as George VI, he had been treated foully by his elder brother. He had been landed with the job of seeing us through the war and the stress and resultant smoking had done for him. He'd been on the throne for less than 16 years. I shall probably howl my eyes out when London Bridge falls down.

I'll start looking out my recordings of Solemn Music - goodness knows how the broadcasters will tackle it. There's bound to be a row, whatever they do, something that didn't happen in '52.

I agree, people can be determined to last out to a specific event - I hope and pray she lives to see the Harkles meet their nemesis.
abbyh said…
OCGal

Nice commentary on the photo.

What I notice is the cane. It comes off as more decorative than really useful while standing there (note how the hand grips downward with a straight line of cane with 2 feet rather than say in a 3 point triangle which has greater stability or that the top end of the cane is under the arm where it would hurt like heck if she started to fall down).

Does she normally carry a black purse while wearing all white? With all her money I would expect she could afford something less clashy. Or you know, there looks like there is a silver not black end of the purse. Really odd.

Back to work, lunch over.

Commuting between Windsor and London - my former pa-in-law did it from just outside Windsor to Whitehall for almost 4 decades, from the end of the war until he retired. Perfectly do-able from Windsor to Waterloo by train, just cross Waterloo Bridge on foot and you're almost there.
I can see William doing that.

By road? Not these days!!!
AbbyH- black shoes always and a bag to match!
Hikari said…
Commuting between Windsor and London - my former pa-in-law did it from just outside Windsor to Whitehall for almost 4 decades, from the end of the war until he retired. Perfectly do-able from Windsor to Waterloo by train, just cross Waterloo Bridge on foot and you're almost there.
I can see William doing that.

By road? Not these days!!!



My conception of the distance to Windsor from London is not at all far, but I guess that is relative. It seems like an easy commute . . but William is not a regular guy commuting to his office. Transporting Royals anywhere for any distance has a million moving parts, especially considering that William and his family are, in security parlance--"High Value Packages". If anything happened to Andrew, would we care? The state of the world being what it is, with terrorism on the increase and not to mention the deranged free-range Sussex Squad fanatics who discuss a fatwah against the Cambridge family routinely online, can't be too careful. The less William and his family need to travel, the better. It'd be too easy for malignant forces to suss out his routines. Though it's hard to imagine that he's better protected in a small (by Royal standards) cottage with more access by the public than he is at Kensington Palace. The security is going to have to be beefed up. Makes more sense really for the Cambridges just to take a wing of Windsor Castle--and wouldn't that just burn Madam in Montesh*tshow? There must be 700 rooms in Windsor Castle; I think a little 96-year-old lady can spare some for her grandson's family.

Who knows? Maybe they just love Windsor that much. It doesn't seem like even as a CoS, William would need to have lengthy daily in-person meets with Gran. Though he could very well be on the Operation London Bridge committee that has kicked into overdrive now out of necessity and these meetings are taking up a lot of his time.

We are moving into a sad phase, no doubt about it. The Queen has been Queen for the entire lifetimes of 80% of the world population now living, I read somewhere. Hard to believe it's not higher, because how many persons of HM's generation or even elder to her are left? By the time I was born, she'd already been Queen for nearly 15 years. I can't envision a world without her in it at the helm of Great Britain, I really can't.
Hikari said…
Question for British Nutties:

Is 'London Bridge' always the code for the passing of the monarch, or just ERII? Seems like it must have been used before in history. Philip's code was 'Bridge of Forth' . . fitting, that.
Girl with a Hat said…
cdan is saying that there's going to be another Oprah interview with the Twats.

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2022/06/blind-item-7_14.html#disqus_thread
The Cat's Meow said…
AbbyH -- all the best with your work emergency. So grateful for your time and effort in maintaining this blog.

Yes, HMTQ did look suddenly much weaker in the photo. Hoping it was just a particularly bad day, and not a worse pattern.

I think there is a "kerfeffufle" about anything Cambridge, but the housing shift makes sense. Especially because I am sure W&K are bringing George for many regular visits so Her Maj can still be a mentor while she is present on this Earth. In addition to the school change I think that they want the kids to have as much strong ties to the right values and Greatest Generation while they still can.
CatEyes said…
Just a personal commentary on the Queen's mobility and discomfort issues. As someone myself who has severe arthritis and degenerative changes in my vertebrae, pain meds (not the extraheavy duty kind like OxyC, Fentanyl) but nonetheless a narcotic, I hate the Queen so hampered by pain. If I did not have my meds I would probably be crying and couldn't get out of bed. My close relative similarly suffers but gets relief. I cringe when I regularly read about the Queen's discomfort (Lord knows it must be severe if she pulls out of so many events which have been favorites and customs for literally, decades!

I know the Queen has the best of physicians who undoubtedly have her best interests at heart that I'm sure. But she is perhaps so strong-minded she cannot allow heself relief from a mild narcotic. I have not heard she has resorted to surgery either. I wish this 'Tough Cookie' of a Queen would allow herself find relief from her extreme pain. Sure there could be other reasons such as health considerations but from what I know she is ssemingly been so healthy all her life. It's like what my physician father once said "why does the medical establishement try to deny pain relief to an old person; do they realistically think they are going to become an naddict"?

I know the Queen is getting great care, I just wish she got good relief. Maybe laying on a sofa/in-bed resting is the most comfortable reasonable option now, and hope our prayers for her and her status of comfort is answered now.

This is another reason why the awful behavior of H&M (and perhaps the controversy with Andrew) makes me so mad. As emotional pain definitely can add to physical pain. It is heartening to hear the Cambridges and their lovely children will be move close to brighten her days and distract her from pain.


















I would hope the the Queen's physicians allow her relief. But I suspect she is a 'tough cookie' and won't allow herself to resort to a narcotic. Also such medicines come with a problem for many when used long term. But she is 96, and as my physician father once said about the medical establishment trying to unfairly/unethically deny pain relief to suffering patients, "At an advanced age it is not likely they would become an addict". The recent backlash against the FDA for telling physicians
lizzie said…
@ Hikari,

I'd submitted something to your musings on the last thread but since it hasn't posted yet, I'll answer here and try to recall the other post.

For me, the "kerfluffle" over the move arises because of the PR painting of it as such an economy move-- the implication that the Cambridges employ hardly any staff and the suggestion that they are environmentally and fiscally responsible by not requiring another expensive taxpayer-renovation right now. If they want to live in Windsor, fine. Of course as 2nd in line to the throne Will has plenty of access to properties to be able to easily do that. And I do hope they like it there. It's been reported Kate very much has wanted to move closer to her parents for several years. And TQ is now in Windsor as you say. And it's been reported the London school commute is a huge hassle as many of us thought it would be. And they recently bought Charlotte a pony and he/she probably doesn't live in London. So there probably are all kinds of reasons to move away from London. But it seems silly to sell having another house as an economy move because it won't undergo millions of pounds of renovations. Kind of like political spins in the US- Because I'm not asking for more money than usual for X, I must be cutting back and saving money.

Of course other royals have multiple homes. And of course as you point out the Queen and the PoW have more property than Will. It would be odd if they didn't in a hierarchy. And when members of the RF don't personally own the homes they live in but they are owned by the Crown, of course taxpayers are on the hook for most renovations and updates.

The way the story has been reported, it's not my impression this move to Windsor is quite as temporary as you seem to suggest. The Times article pretty much said they will move to Windsor Castle when the Queen dies because Charles doesn't plan to use it much. We can't know for sure if that will happen until it does.But I agree they are unlikely to live in something as small as a 4-bedroom house for very long after living in 10-bed Anmer and 21-room KP. But while they'll still use KP, I also don't think they are pretending the family is still primarily based in London and that the Windsor accomodations are merely for "weekend getaways" as you suggested on the last thread. After all, the older kids are going to change schools & Louis will start "real school" in the Windsor area. We don't know if they will send their kids to boarding school and if they do, when that might be. It's pretty unlikely IMO it will be next fall.

We've had plenty of active spin from H&M. I hope we don't start getting it from W&K's team, or if we do, it's not quite so unbelievable.
Blue Dragon said…
Hand bag colour

https://pagesix.com/2022/06/13/queen-elizabeth-ii-uses-cane-in-order-of-the-garter-photo/

I had the benefit of seeing this picture printed on the front page of The Daily Telegraph. The bag is a largish sliver one and the navy blue of the robe that Charles is wearing is reflected on the back of the bag making it look black. The shoes are also silver.

They really need to get a physiotherapist to advise on the length of the canes. With my Dad a physio held the cane upside down next to him while he was standing up. The handle was on the floor and she marked on the cane the position of where the hand joins the wrist. I then sawed off the excess and put a rubber cover on the end. They should do this for HMQ. She can keep the offcut and use it as a ruler. I think Prince Phil would rather see HMQ comfortable then wresting with something over size for sentimental reasons.
Henrietta said…
Also in Sewall's Spectator article, he says: "As their hollow selves grow tiresome, the brand will likely fade. The Netflix cancelation and their unsteadiness suggest more psychodrama to come."

I haven't heard the Netflix contract has been canceled. Does Sewall know something we don't?
The Cat's Meow said…
Re: the comment about starting to get the same type of "spin" from W&K as the Sixes...

I recall that they recently hired someone to help with marketing/social media. This was explained as a new direction after the problems resulting from their recent international tour.

Spin is pretty much the same -- polishing and selling a product. Luckily though W&K have a much more authentic product!!
Henrietta said…
Girl with a Hat said...

cdan is saying that there's going to be another Oprah interview with the Twats.

I'm not going to believe this until SecondhandCoke weighs in. She was emphatic that Oprah hasn't taken their calls in a year.

Off-topic:

Thank you, Abby, for keeping our blog alive!


Maneki Neko said…
Re W&K moving to Windsor, this is also for them to get closer to Kate's parents who live in Berkshire, about 30 miles/50 km away from Windsor.

We're all worried about the Queen's health, she has looked so frai and it's not like her to pull out of events, especially at the last minute. On top of which, she has PA and the Harkles to contend with. There is an article in the DM today in which a Royal biographer and journalist, Duncan Larcombe, says the 6s 'are in the 'last chance saloon' with the royal family and will be 'cut off' if they leak anything from Jubilee'... 'He revealed how their 'behavior going forward' would dictate their future with the family.' The Queen certainly does need any more of their shenanigans
OCGal said…
@Henrietta, i think the Sewall Spectator article quote was referring to Netflix' cancellation of #666's vanity project entitled "PEARL"
Sandie said…
https://images.app.goo.gl/YXiRBf8ftgAFuDKh9

https://images.app.goo.gl/e4SAfVmxLvSpvv4i9

The name Adelaide Cottage is a bit misleading, as you can see from these arial photographs. The cottage itself is two dwellings joined together by a sort of passageway and enclosed yard. Together, it supposedly has only 4 bedrooms, but it has a number of reception rooms, the bedrooms are spacious, and no doubt the main bedroom has at least one adjoining dressing room. Then there are a couple of gatehouses on the property as well (so plenty of space for Nanny Maria to live on the property). Windsor Castle itself has plenty of space to accommodate staff such as housekeeper, cook, and so on, and bodyguards can probably also be accommodated there. Their office will probably remain based in KP.

For all of her reign, HMTQ has moved from royal residence to royal residence, so the monarchy is used to juggling staff and clothing and all the other stuff they need for official duties between residences.

@lizzie
I agree that the spin is misleading. I don't think the addition of another residence will be a huge additional cost, but it is not cheap to have three residences! Opening up Crown properties to the public (not fully) has brought in a lot of extra revenue, so the taxpayer is not suddenly having to pay a lot more for this slimmed-down royal model.* But, some will be of the view that the income from Crown properties should go to the people and not be used to support multiple residences - revolution 101 has never completely gone out of fashion! (I was a revolutionary in my youth so I know the thinking well!)

*All the money spent on the monarchy (other than security) comes from income generated by Crown properties, the whole enterprise being managed by the monarch. Some of this income (a substantial amount) is given to government to do with what they wish (actually, it is all given to government and then government takes the Sovereign Grant from that income).

If running and maintaining two homes for the Cambridges on Crown property is a significantly huge amount, the revolutionaries will scream off with their heads! Some will no doubt start screaming before they see the financials!
Sandie said…
CDAN has published a blind that the duo are planning to spill all in another Oprah interview. Surely not?
Sandie said…
Apologies for posting without checking on updates! I think twit and twat are stupid enough to do this, and I can't trust Oprah to not enjoy 'sticking it' to the royals again, but, in my opinion, it will just further cheapen their failing brand.
Elsbeth1847 said…
Well, if they do another interview, what are the chances it would happen at another close to death time? Oh, it would really make them look bad. All the comparisons to doing this last time. If we are really lucky, people would start to look critically at the first one and come to their own conclusions.

To God's ear.
Sandie said…
https://newspress.com/exiled-in-montecito-history-repeats-itself-with-prince-harry-and-meghan/
Henrietta said…
Blogger OCGal said...

@Henrietta, i think the Sewall Spectator article quote was referring to Netflix' cancellation of #666's vanity project entitled "PEARL"

Thanks. That reading makes more sense.
Hikari said…
I remember reading a while back that the Queen’s doctors had advised she give up her nightly gin martini.

Why deprive a nonagenarian of one of her few remaining pleasures in life? What harm could it really do now? Likewise with the pain medications— Obviously she doesn’t want to be so out of it she no longer knows up from down, but even if she were to grow dependent on the relief—again, what can it matter now? We are talking about managing day by day. There can be no long-term negative affects because we are not talking about a long-term anymore. A few years not decades, and I think that is probably the best case scenario. I don’t want to think upon it but if Elizabeth only has a year or less left to live, why should she spend the time remaining to her in abject pain, unable to enjoy anything?

She is Regina—“One would like the best stuff you’ve got, Doctor, and One would like it now.” If the poor woman can’t have some Percocet, then for the love of God let her have her gin martinis.
Petunia said…
The Queen Mother's funeral plans were called Tay Bridge. If there are any plans for either of the sixes, I hope they are called Troll Bridge.
OCGal said…
@Petunia, haha! Good one: Troll Bridge.

I love it.
Fifi LaRue said…
Allowing a person, on their death bed, the few pleasures left: My dear friend Margarite was a heavy smoker and drinker. But she was very spiritual and tuned in. Her next of kin decided, in the last week of Margarite's life, that smoking and drinking were not good, and took away her last pleasures. Folks, don't ever do that to a person in the last week of their life. Let them have their cigarettes and vodka, because nothing is going to change.
Troll Bridge - I like it. Thanks @Petunia.

Who remembers the Three Billy Goats Gruff? And the song: `A musical version of the story written and performed by Frank Luther was often played on the BBC Radio programme Children's Favourites, in the 1950s and early 1960s'?

`I'm a troll ,
Fol-de-rol, (twice)
and I'll eat you
for supper!'

No prize for guessing who is the Troll under the bridge.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

I was reading this yesterday - exiled in Montecito - and was going to post the link but didn't as really it's only a rehash of what we know. There was no new info.
Sandie said…
'Thoughtful' Meghan Markle sent a voice note to volunteers at Grenfell community kitchen - asking 'about our children and giving us news of hers' - to mark five-year anniversary of the tragedy
Meghan Markle left a voice note asking about the volunteers and their families on the five-year anniversary of the West London tower block tragedy
The Hubb Community Kitchen posted on its Facebook that the Duchess, 40, had sent the message asking 'about our children and giving us news of hers'
Meghan and Prince Harry first visited the West London kitchen in 2018 following the blaze, which killed 72 people, on June 14th, 2017
Volunteers wrote in another post how the 'thoughtful' Duchess had sent 'flowers, a picture, chocolates' and made phone calls in the years since the tragedy
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10918679/Meghan-Markle-praised-Grenfell-community-kitchen-volunteers-leaving-kind-voice-note.html

I think she is showing her true self - it is always about her (her children); she takes the easy route of a publicity gesture rather than the hard slog of turning up or doing behind-the-scenes fundraising and lobbying; she still thinks of herself as a foodie; she thruves on media coverage that describes her as kind or sweet or thoughtful (perhaps revealing her shadow self).
New Harry Markle up yesterday - some new stuff included, such as her not crediting ee cummings with a quote she tried to pass of as her own - a women's organisation has ended up thoroughly markled.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

Thanks for the link to the DM. The only reason she left a voice note is because W&K were at the memorial service for the victims. Which one came first, TBW's voice note or the Cambridges ' visit? I know LA is 8 hours behind the UK but even so... I bet she would never had done anything - she wouldn't be able to remember - had W&K not !armed the anniversary.
snarkyatherbest said…
some have rumored she plants some of the blinds. perhaps she planted the oprah interview to force oprah into a second interview or to make a veiled threat to the courtiers. we will talk.

as for thee Queen. it makes me sad. i can imagine she has a steely will not to baby herself. (personally if i make 96 it’s gonna be glitzy outfits with big hats, i’ll be eating bon bons (and prob opioids) all day and hosting a you tube video with all my musings about nothing. stay tuned in a few years). she is very faithful and probably views it as her cross to bear. this must be hard on those close to her.

and yes Charles and Camilla looked robust yesterday. Camilla in particular is glowing these days. the more she is out there the more people will get used to her as queen. and i too saw the richard eden piece about Princess Bea. she sure would make a great working royal. she is really coming into her own.

so we watch for netflix and spotify. since we haven’t heard anything about the podcast i’m guessing it may already have been canceled. it is possible if the upfront money isn’t that big neither entity will sue. it will just be a write off with a bunch of other canceled projects. swept under the rug. given the duo’s penchant for suing the companies may have already figured out the cost to litigate. i never believed the up front $£€ we saw plastered in the press. they are certainly killing their sussex brand. no one will want to work with them except maybe Andy cohen of the real housewives and he is used to big divas

Sandie said…
Only the last trademark application (for the word 'archetypes') seems to be hers. What if she fails to trademark the word/term? Does she cancel the podcast series?

https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4801:wm8w02.2.2

https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4801:wm8w02.2.4

https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4801:wm8w02.2.5

https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4801:wm8w02.2.6
snarkyatherbest said…
Sandie. the Hubb. just shows how irrelevant she is. Cambridges visit and she has to dial it in. she is really smarting and i love it. clearly she has not moved k. to some thing better. why couldn’t she have popped in and brought the kids for a little photo op. oops we know why. we may have a real doozie from Prince Williams birthday.
Martha said…
Thanks for posting the Spectator article. A satisfying read, indeed.
My bet: she left the voice message after reading w&k attended Grenfell
Henrietta said…
From SecondhandCoke:

If this is true, I can't get any verification for it, and if it were actually in ink, the people I know would know. I think Meghan's PR pushes this out occasionally for varied reasons including trying to make Meghan seem like she still has Oprah and Gayle on her side, and she thinks the threat of a second Oprah interview is some kind of power play on the RF. Well, as far as the latter is concerned, the first Oprah interview was a threat, and she had to resort to lies for that one, so the RF would hardly give a shit about this one other than to use it as another nail in their coffin. The RF pulled a major power play on them over the Jubilee, though, so this might be Harry and Meghan throwing their toys out of the crib. Regarding the former, I am 100% sure that Oprah has nothing to do with Meghan and wants nothing to do with Meghan, and whither Oprah goes, thereto will Gayle follow.

However, IF I'm wrong, and this is actually happening, it does not change that Oprah has no good will toward Meghan and Harry. Oprah is first about Oprah and whenever Oprah does a second interview after her subjects have been caught lying to her, she holds their feet to the fire for the second interview. So if Harry and Meghan do a second interview, it will not go well for them. If the first one started their downfall, another one wouldn't change their trajectory.

CatEyes said…
@Petunia said...
"The Queen Mother's funeral plans were called Tay Bridge. If there are any plans for either of the sixes, I hope they are called Troll Bridge."

That's a laugh! I can easily envison * as a troll, what with her yak-hair wig and creepy stares at others during official events.

However I've go another one...'Brooklyn Bridge'. Seeing how all the time their trying to "Sell" us a big lie.
Mel said…
There was some chatter that the William and Catherine visit to Grenfall was not on the court circular.

Thus Mm having no idea that it was happening so she was unable to undermine their visit by getting something out first.

If true, this seems like a good move on the part of the palace. Just keep things quiet until after the fact the fact.
Hasn’t Oprah erased all trace of that interview with Maggot and Mole? 🥴So I don’t foresee another interview in the pipework. 😐
D1 said…
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1625951/Mike-Tindall-Prince-Harry-insult-Jubilee-Platinum-Party-Palace-Royal-Family

MIKE TINDALL used an insulting and derogatory phrase to refer to Prince Harry during the Queen's Platinum Jubilee celebrations earlier this month, Express.co.uk can reveal.

Not read it yet, just noticed the headline :)
Hello! is now trumpeting that the Brooksbanks will go to Nott Cott at KP...
Hello! is now trumpeting that the Brooksbanks will go to Nott Cott at KP...
Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2022.06.15-160308/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/06/15/meghan-makes-thoughtful-phone-call-grenfell-community-kitchen/

Meghan makes 'thoughtful' phone call to Grenfell community kitchen
The Duchess of Sussex left a 'lovely voice message' to mark five years since the tragedy
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snarkyatherbest said…
sandie. bellow this is Hubb Community. we cannnot take your call right now we are hosting a visit from the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. please leave your message at the beep. bye.

#!🤬 caller is indentifies from california
Sandie said…
Fans of Theresa Longo
@BarkJack_
Replying to
@AndisMom4
We are tipped off to June being one of those famous change-maker months; however, we're expecting a podcast soon. Haven't heard any word on interview 2 *yet*
Sandie said…
@Mel
Notice that William and Catherine would be at the Greenfell remembrance event was embargoed. If I come across the actual notice from their office, I will post a link.
Sandie said…
Her strategy at the moment seems to be 'Chase the Cambridges'. She considers the Greenfell community as 'belonging to her', so she must be fuming. It was a Royal Foundation project, well under way before her wedding. She was asked to champion it by the Royal Foundation. The Greenfell project still falls under the Royal Foundation.

Royal photographers and reporters knew the Cambridges were going to be there as they were all there to cover the event. The embargo meant they could not say anything until after the event.

The timeline between the media coverage of the Cambridges at the event and the syrupy PR articles of TBW leaving a voicemail (centred on her children) and sending treats (news and photos of treats posted on FB) would be interesting to know. Supposedly the FB announcement was taken down because of the deluge of negative comments.
Sandie said…
https://mobile.twitter.com/camerondlwalker/status/1537052656476332032

Easy to spot - guy with the barbecue!
lizzie said…
@Mel wrote:

"There was some chatter that the William and Catherine visit to Grenfall was not on the court circular."

I'm not sure what calendar the chatter involved. The Court Circular lists past engagements and few royals use the "Future Engagements" option that lists planned events up to 8 weeks away. So far as I can tell, only Princess Anne, Princess Alexandra, and the Duke of Gloucester use it.

https://www.royal.uk/future-engagements

I know reporters are notified of events but I'm not sure that's through a "calendar" that just anyone can see. I think more and more engagements aren't announced. Partly for security I'm sure.

_________________

@Sandie wrote

"...She considers the Greenfell community as 'belonging to her', so she must be fuming. It was a Royal Foundation project, well under way before her wedding. She was asked to champion it by the Royal Foundation. The Greenfell project still falls under the Royal Foundation...."

I agree she thinks its hers. But I'm not so sure about that order of events. There were reasons it might not have been the thing to do to be tied too closely to money issues there.

I thought MM jumped in first and the Royal Foundation took over to try to minimize harm. I didn't think she was *asked* to get involved there. But with the sale of "her cookbook" (yeah, right- that WAS already underway but I don't think the Foundation was involved) there had to be some oversight once her name was in it. And that's what got the Foundation in.

Maybe I'm wrong but it wasn't the usual Foundation kind of effort. I'm not saying the royals weren't concerned but the raising of money in that sort of situation is different. They needed to tread carefully. I expect Will knew that. And rushing in and taking credit for someone else's work is pure Meghan.
Sandie said…
The Grenfell Tower fire was in June 2017. The marriage was a year later and the engagement announcement a few months after the fire.

The Royal Foundation showed support from early days. William, Harry and Catherine personally donated money and encouraged others to do the same. The Royal Foundation support, and personal support of the Royals (sans Meghan), was very high profile.

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/culture/culture-news/news/a42125/william-kate-harry-grenfell-tower-fire-donation/

https://thecrownchronicles.co.uk/royal-news/william-harry-meet-grenfell-tower-fire-victims-helped-royal-foundation-project/

She supposedly started visiting the Hubb in secret in January 2018, and it was her idea to put together a cookbook to raise funds. (I think the book was launched just before she announced her pregnancy.)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelinemaynard/2018/09/17/meghan-markle-makes-a-splash-with-her-first-big-charity-effort-a-cookbook/
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said: Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
Hello! is now trumpeting that the Brooksbanks will go to Nott Cott at KP...


Is that where they will be allegedly staying when they are in England for the nonce and their principal residence will be in Portugal? (I confess that I dunno what the significance of the gossip is.) Is it they are taking Harry and Meghan's leftovers again? Are we supposed to make the inference that Harry and Meghan are moving back to Froggy Swamp in order to importune the royal family from up close? That they are heartlessly kicking Eugenie and Jack and real child out in the snow? Has anybody seen work beginning on a tall wall and a piranha-filled moat surrounding the building to make sure that they stay there?

I wonder whether we're going to be hearing that Eugenie is expecting again?

Sandie said…
I am sorry I cannot find it, but will keep looking: the notice to reporters and photographers from KP (official) giving details about their attendance at the memorial service. At the top was typed, in red, that there was an embargo on reporting about the engagement beforehand.

It is actually quite usual for royal reporters/photographers to get a briefing about an engagement/announcement and have an embargo included.

Meghan's involvement was with the Hubb kitchen. The involvement of William, Harry and Catherine was much broader. I suppose that is why Meghan sent foodie treats and left a message about family. It was perhaps awkward as the official royal visit and the message from Meghan were not co-ordinated so it just felt a bit jarring, like competing PR. To be diplomatic, and avoid the clashing PR, Meghan could perhaps choose to remember them on the anniversary of the publication of the cookbook?
Sandie said…
Rough timeline:

Grenfell fire June 2017. The Royal Foundation and the three Royals get involved immediately, with high-profile visits and donations and support up to September.

Engagement announcement: November 2017 (I think) but secretly engaged since September.

January 2018: She starts making secret visits to the Hubb and suggests they publish a cookbook to raise funds. Since the cookbook was published September 2018, it must have been with the publisher by June. She got married in May and then officially joins the Royal Foundation. She is never officially a patron of the Hubb.

Secrecy, doing her own thing rather than being a team player, steamrolling through protocol, doing her own thing rather than following tradition and respecting others, acting on impulse ... she was never going to work out in the royal family! But, the project was perfect for her and the cookbook was a great idea.
lizzie said…
@Sandie,

Thanks for the links. I was thinking specifically about the Hubb Kitchen involvement as being awkward and posing possible problems, not the general Grenfell involvement.(I thought that was the extent of MM's involvement.)

Clearly multiple members of the RF and lots of others were involved after the Grenfell tragedy including TQ. And many people donated money. But it really was not my impression MM *was asked* to step in by the Foundation months before she "married in." And even at the time I read several credible rumblings about "issues" with involvement with Hubb. Knowing what we know now about MM I suspect there could have been some serious problems.

I do think the voice mail and food treats look like an intention to compete. I don't know any way around that since that's what MM seems to want to do. No way to coordinate with someone not doing royal duties, after all . And even when she was on the inside, MM was unwilling to be a group player.

I'm sure many notices to reporters do say "embargoed." But I think it's been that way for a pretty long while mostly for security. I'd be surprised if royal calendars have suddenly become secret because of MM.
lizzie said…
Re: the Hubb cookbook, according to Amazon it was published on Sept 25, 2018.

According to the Forbes article @Sandie posted above, Meghan suggested doing a cookbook when she visited the kitchen in January 2018.

I've never worked in the publishing business but I find it unlikely a hardcover cookbook with lots of photos and with recipes collected from multiple people could be thought of in January and be on the market in September. But I'm not in the business.
Mel said…
It floors me that people treat her like she's a saint because she sent a box of twinkies or whatever. And that's the extent of her donation/involvement.

And for that meager donation she wants to be known as a worldwide philanthropist.
Hikari said…
@ lizzie

I think the window for a book is usually at least a whole year, if not 16 to 18 months, but it’s possible that a project for charity could be fast tracked. Though given Maggot’s historically Creative relationship with the truth, I am certainly not inclined either to believe that she was the brains behind the Hubb cookbook. What is far more likely to have happened in my view is that in the immediate wake of the fire, in the fall before the Sussex wedding, the idea of a cookbook to raise funds was floated and was well underway several months later when Harry’s new fiancée swanned in. Seeing a chance to capitalize on the royal connection with the soon to be newest royal, The organization welcomed her and asked her to contribute the foreword. In the mind of a narcissist, this gets conflirated into “the entire cookbook was my idea to start with and I wrote the entire thing.” That was a demonstrable lie. Incidentally in the brief forward of what was it three or four paragraphs, she uses the pronoun “I“ no fewer than 27 times. I can’t recall now but she may have contributed a couple of recipes stolen from chef Cory.

At the time of the cookbook launch which was her first official solo project as the Duchess, She wanted it to be held in the kitchens of KP. That was shot down going to security concerns, and not only security concerns about the community women attending. Harry was present that day and according to my recollection, high AF, but even though the event was held in a tent outside on the grounds, stipulation of meg being anywhere near Royal properties was that she needed a chaperone. It wasn’t quite what she had in mind when she would’ve preferred to welcome these lower income minority women who had just suffered a great personal tragedy into “her kitchen”. What a piece of work is Markle.

If the cookbook was released at the end of September, and had actually been conceived and work started on it in November of the previous year, it wouldn’t be that far out of the norm for a usual publication. But of course Madame has to insert herself in the whole process and credit herself with brainstorming the entire thing. Because these community women had no clue what was good for them until she blew in from America and told them.
@ D1 posted this link:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1625951/Mike-Tindall-Prince-Harry-insult-Jubilee-Platinum-Party-Palace-Royal-Family

Worth reading for the slew of stories attached to it.
The Cat's Meow said…
Lord Geidt has just resigned as Boris Johnson's ethics minister. Somewhat relevant since he was such an institution at his former post advising HMTQ. Sounds like a man of integrity reaching his last straw...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10922553/So-DID-Boriss-sleaze-chief-quit-Mystery-Lord-Geidts-departure.html
Sandie said…
I did work in publishing for years, and spent a couple of years in trade publishing producing cookbooks and gardening and interior design books. Eight months from conception to publication is possible but not likely. I am not sure how many photographs are in the book, but food photography takes time. There certainly would not have been time to test every recipe. Choosing 50 recipes and writing them up, by a group of women, would also take time. So, unless the publisher (once secured, as in her story, signing on with a publisher was part of the timeline) allocated a team of the best and most experienced professionals to work on the book, the time line she gives is questionable. As a Royal Foundation project (she was not part of the Royal Foundation at that stage), the publisher would have treated it as a prestige project, but madame would definitely not have been the one to make that happen.

If she was exaggerating her involvement and completely ignoring the importance of the role of the Royal Foundation (which she was not added to until after her wedding), dozens of bells must have been ringing in alarm in the Cambridge household and staff from an early stage.
Sandie said…
@lizzie
I must admit that with my experience I find it highly unlikely that she conceived of the idea in January and it was published in September ... Not for a quality book that has been professionally produced, and not without the power of top royals to make it happen.

I wonder if she made the secret visits in January to insert herself in the project. She had cultivated the image of being a foodie before meeting the prince (even had a cooking show, briefly, where she did that chipmunk chomping on camera), so she stomped in and took credit, never acknowledging or thanking all the professionals in the Royal Foundation and the publishing house for making it happen.

But no one challenged the claims of the newly wed and newly pregnant duchess.

She was probably showing her true colours and getting alarm bells ringing before she even got the engagement ring on her finger!
Sandie said…
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been left hurt by their treatment in the UK by the public and other members of the Royal Family during the celebration to mark the Queen's 70-year reign, according to Heat Magazine. The couple are reportedly furious after being booed outside St Paul's Cathedral and being snubbed by Prince William and Kate who snubbed their invite to Lilibet's first birthday celebration. An insider told Heat: "It was a kick in the teeth that the Cambridges didn’t attend. For Meghan, it just strengthened her resolve to not come back."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1625635/royal-family-live-prince-harry-meghan-markle-lilibet-platinum-jubilee-queen-latest-update

Oh dear!
lizzie said…
@Hikari,

Yes, that's pretty much what I thought. Thanks. I'm familiar only with academic publishing and that usually takes over a year after submission. I just don't find it plausible Meghan suggested the idea in Jan 2018 for a release in Sept of the same year. Nine months? I can imagine things would move faster throwing lots of money at the project (Foundation money) and maybe milking royal connections would help find a publisher fast. But nine months? The recipes had to be collected and dishes professionally photographed. I can believe no one bothered to test the recipes (Oops, that was supposed to be 1 teaspoon of pepper, not 1 tablespoon. And yes, the chicken was supposed to cook for 45 minutes, not 15. Oh well.) Not testing would save some time. But lots of other things had to be done. I think it's much more likely it was already in the works when MM stumbled onto the scene. Definitely all the articles say MM claimed it was conceived in January. I just don't believe that.

I do remember there was a hoopla over where the ceremony would be. Part of the problem as I recall was MM wanted cooking to be happening during the event. An indoor event with lots of people cooking smelly food on hotplates isn't one suited to fancy rooms in the Palace. It's also not safe from a fire safety perspective-- kind of a big deal for Grenfell survivors. And inviting large groups into the Palace that can't be vetted (without creating lots of other issues) probably isn't done either. So I'm not sure it was only MM who was a concern re: the ceremony's location.
lizzie said…
@Sandie,

Thanks! That all makes sense. (Your comment had not appeared when I submitted my last one, I wasn't ignoring your input.)

I don't know how many photos are in the book but the Amazon reviews seem to show at least 15. I do see the book has only 50 recipes-- I thought there were more but even so, 9 months sounds fast. And you are right MM wasn't part of the Foundation when she claims to have suggested the book in January. She might have persuaded H to persuade W&K...who knows. But even with Foundation money, 9 months ..
Enbrethiliel said…
"It was a kick in the teeth that the Cambridges didn’t attend."

This isn't how it went down at all, of course, but it's also not surprising that someone who made her husband snub a Royal Marines memorial so he could pimp her out to Disney would think nothing of expecting higher-ranking Royals to ditch a long-planned Jubilee event at Cardiff Castle for an afterthought birthday party, when she hadn't even known she would go to the UK until after the Uvalde stunt blew up in her face. The entitlement is breathtaking!

I confess that I kind of have to hand it to *. She was in the UK for a mere three days and she was able to spin material for a whole new Oprah interview (she hopes) from it. Never underestimate a malignant narcissist!
CatEyes said…
Re: Mike Tindall calling "H' a name!

MSN.com reports Mike Tindall referring to 'H' as an inglorious "B***end"

While the Express article claims the barve Mike Tindal labeled 'H' as a "B******d'

Obviously it's all in the number of *'s and end letters. Funny we refer to Mrs.6 as * and now we find 'H' has his own nom de guerre with a hefty number of *'s.

Of course, being curious I wondered which is it "B***end" or "B******d". Afterall. this is Mike's endearing pet name for his royal relative. I can see him using the appelation around the family home and possibly in more in future family family gatherings.

The first one stumpted me for a hot second, but I figure the epithet is "Buttend". But other Nutties with a better vocabulary than me might have any idea of what else it can be. But sweet Mike, who is rapidly becoming one of my favorites in the BRF, surely could be thinking of Mr.6 at the end of of a torso (maybe the end of a Jack).

While "B******d" seems to be what most of us would like to call this Price of the realm, you know, a progeny born out of wedlock. And oh, don't we wish it were so...that 'H' had no legitimate claim to the throne or even royal status.

For people who had not read either aticle here is a snippet of what transpired outside of St. Pauls' with Mikey and others.

"He made the comment to a fellow guest at a reception held at Buckingham Palace, the Daily Express reports. Body language expert Judi James said: “With Mike’s closeness to William in mind it also appeared to have created a bit of a dilemma as Harry stepped out into Zara’s group as they waited for their transport."

"Zara looks happy to chat and even turns fully to talk to Harry here, who is looking anxious and keen to get into his own car. Mike though remains facing forward, looking about and holding his order of service up with a look of awkwardness.

"In the end he talks to Viscount Lindley, who turns his own back on Harry, cutting the two men off from Zara’s conversation with Harry.

“This doesn’t appear to be Mike’s normal style of behaviour as he usually looks too easy-going and too tough to get involved in politics and it could be that his attention was taken arranging the right cars, but there are no signs of any farewell from him, either.”

Lady Colin Campbell told GB News: “Between the booing and the cold-shouldering that they got from everybody, my understanding is that by the time they left they were absolutely spitting bricks.

“And then the coup de grace as far as they were concerned was not only that they were booed, but while they were waiting for their car, nobody would speak to them except Zara. Mike Tindall avoided them like the plague. He made absolutely sure he did not catch their eye.”

Oh to be a fly on the wall going forward I wonder what the good royals refer to the disgraced and unpopular Prince and his evn more despised sidekick



CatEyes, I'm guessing it might be "bellend", not too sure if it's used outside of the UK.
OCGal said…
@CatEyes, each report I’ve read specifies that Mike Tindall called Harry a “bellend” which to American ears sounds weird but not at all offensive, but apparently to those in U.K. it is meant to be offensive which is why the British don’t spell it out fully, and so use a few asterisks to imply the full word.

It means dickhead as far as I know.

I’m sure a Nutty will correct my misapprehension if I’m wrong, and I do apologize in advance to anyone here reading who didn’t like that I spelled both words out.
Enbrethiliel said…
"Mike Tindall avoided them like the plague. He made absolutely sure he did not catch their eye."

Heh. He did that fake "peering into the distance" thing to pretend he didn't notice * was standing two feet away from him. Not as subtle as a scarfing, but just as effective. One has got to love Mike Tindall.
Henrietta said…
There's a piece of text making the rounds from someone who used to work with Meghan. I think I found it on an anti-MM Twitter account, which said it had come from Reddit, but the pictures of text include icons that match YouTube, not Reddit.

In any event, I found it in YouTube, on a station run by a man named Murad Merali, under a video about the Jubilee church service called, "A Mess: They Are Coming for Megan Markle Again..." The poster's name is "Luvelynic." It's long, which makes it a weird thing to post to YouTube, but I'd like to post it here.

Part 1

Murad, I know you "Stan Meghan on this channel" and I have respected that for as long as I can, because I usually find your points and stances on most issues/people/topics, etc. to be pretty spot on. BUT... when it comes to Meghan I must say, I think you just don't want to see the truth. Mini novel ahead!

I worked with Meghan many moons ago in LA, before she was really working as an actor, but was on her way to getting there. She had signed with a bigger agent and was starting to hang out with more H'wood folks, but we were still working retail making the same $12 an hour, and yet she looked down on all of us then because she always felt most people were beneath her. I am in no way claiming we were besties, we were standard work friends who chatted quite a bit on the clock and hung out on a few occasions off the clock. But honestly, our friendship never grew because she was simply and truthfully a sh!t person.


Henrietta said…
Part 2

The negative characteristics a lot of people sense about her are accurate. I have never been surprised about anything that has come out about her, even when she first got with Harry and people actually seemed to be fooled and were believing she was a decent person and giving her all this adoration, because she was a shapeshifter even back then and I knew her true self would come out. When I heard she was with Harry, I knew immediately that she had plotted, planned and clawed her way to hooking "a Harry/or insert any guy who would fit her end game".

The Meghan I knew:

-- Seemed to enjoy (or simply couldn't help herself) making those she saw as *beneath her feel stupid and classless (*pretty much everybody who couldn't do something for her or did things she saw as oh so unsophisticated). She was legit aghast when someone didn't know the word "gauche"...which is basically how she viewed those around her.

-- Was incredibly snobby, even while we were all just as broke as each other, but her Dad was very much propping her up. I once ran into her (and Trevor, the ex husband) at a 7/11 on Olympic, I was headed to my hair salon next door which was in a strip mall of sorts. She was perfectly nice initially, until I told her I was getting my hair done in a non-Beverly Hills setting. It had been at least a year since we'd been in touch and she had some acting gigs by then, clearly she was with Trevor by that point, so even more ego! The look of downright disgust and confusion on her face when I told her "oh my salon is right over there"...you would have thought I [had] told her I was getting a cut and a color in a urine-soaked gas station bathroom. And then the pleasantries quickly faded and the good ol' Meghan who shames you for daring to exist outside of her high society bubble came right back.
Henrietta said…
Part 3

-- Had a good relationship with her Dad, but was clearly embarrassed by him and seemed to feel he was not up to par with her social standards she wanted for herself (from what I saw and from things she told me). But the things she found so uncouth were always just things that made him, him. He seemed to like the simpler things in life, and she seemed to want him to be more sophisticated, more high society. Remember her highlighting how she had to eat at the salad bar at Sizzler as a kid...yeah, I have no doubt that is because it's something she finds embarrassing and expects others to find it embarrassing also, because the super upper crust would never.

-- Shapeshifter, meaning she would change pretty instantly depending on who was around, but to an extreme. Like pretending not to know or be with you if you were out with her and she saw someone whom she deemed more important/worthy.

-- Her roommate at the time was a publicist (who she lived with for about three years if I remember correctly, but could be wrong on the time) so she very much knows what she is doing and how the PR game works, in a different way than a lot of PR clients would.

Henrietta said…
Part 4

- When I met her, she was madly in love with her then boyfriend (Brent or Brett) who she bragged about because they had worked together at a restaurant, but she refused to date him because she had told him she had a rule about never dating co-workers. So he quit his job so she would go out with him. She bragged about that A LOT, specifically the fact that "he quit his job for me." Within a few months, she had started hanging with more C-list actor crowds and she met Simon Rex at a party. She then pretty quickly dumped "the love of her life" who had quit his job for her within a few days after just texting with Simon (at least she claimed they had only texted). She was giddy about Simon, and I honestly knew it wasn't because she liked him, she thought she had hit the jackpot with a guy who could help her climb up. The stories of her using and dumping people once they no longer serve[d] her are not at all surprising, not in the least!

-- Her demeanor and personality felt very forced most of the time like she was taking things from an etiquette book and trying to pass it off as the world she came from. I think it's worth remembering she spent a ton of time on Hollywood sets, because of her Dad, but he was unflashy and fairly simple and her Mom was a bit of a Hippie who was also (from what I saw) not trying to be nor obsessed with Hollywood or living a high life. She also went to schools with a lot of rich kids, but her parents weren't famous or well known whatsoever nor really trying to move within those circles, I gather they just wanted her in good schools (again, from what I gathered) yet she grew up seeing those lifestyles and all the attention, etc. I almost think of it similarly to the cliche stories of "the janitor's or the butler's kid" who grows up amongst that world, but is never fully accepted because they're the offspring of the "help" so becomes obsessed with trying to become accepted by them, and possibly even somewhat confused because maybe they feel as if that is as much their world as the elites.

Also for someone who seems to know how and when to use her Blk parent to her advantage, she sure doesn't seem keen to surround herself with any other Blk people (who aren't her mother or super famous). She has the ability to hire and provide opportunities to people and communities, but has she chosen to hire Blk people? Is she in Blk communities trying to help? Is she speaking out in support of Blk issues regularly? Did I miss the photo op at the Buffalo mass shooting? Is any of this required of her because she is half black, no of course not. But as a very obvious whyt passing bi-racial woman, her behavior is suspect. I'm a Blk woman with a bi-racial mother myself. And no, I'm not jealous nor bitter and I'm only sharing this because I appreciate your work, Murad, but want you to have more information at least when it comes to her so you can maybe consider the possibility she may not be who you think. If she was a decent person I'd be happy for her, but who wants to be happy for an arsehole?

Either way, the Meghan I knew then is exactly the person I expected to be now, and that is not a kind or generous person who wants to help others, people are props to her and men are a means to an end. She is out for herself, everything is calculated and she will stop at nothing to be seen in a very specific light that is nothing but complimentary at all times. She wants to be seen as this incredible philanthropist, but simply is not that person because she isn't capable of not putting herself first, in my opinion.
Henrietta said…
What I think is so interesting about Luvelynic's essay is that she confirms just about everything we here have long believed about MM, and she did it on a pro-Markle site! That really takes guts.

I personally think her story sounds legitimate, and I'm impressed she was willing to name names and places. I personally don't think MM reads here, but if she comes across a posted version of Luvelynic's essay, I hope MM go after her. I purposefully only made a few edits to Luvelynic's essay so that everyone would be able to trace it back to YouTube if they wanted to.
OCGal said…
@Henrietta, thank you so much for cutting and pasting that wonderful tea from someone who worked years ago with #666.

I believe all of it!
OKay said…
@Henrietta said...
Part 3

-- Her roommate at the time was a publicist (who she lived with for about three years if I remember correctly, but could be wrong on the time) so she very much knows what she is doing and how the PR game works, in a different way than a lot of PR clients would.

If true...shouldn't she be a LOT better at it then? (Feeling cheeky today!)

______
I also have thoughts about Zara being friendly towards Harry and Wife at the Jubilee. I saw the pic where she turned full on to talk to them, and I couldn't help but wonder if she wasn't giving them a piece of her mind but didn't want the cameras to pick that up. However, I have no idea whether this is something that Zara would do. But I certainly would!
KnitWit said…
Wasn't Netflix angry at the pair's Oprah interview? Mainly that it wasnt on Netflix?

If they did another interview, hope it us harder hitting and fact checked.

Perhaps Oprah wants to redeem herself and do the interview she , in hindsight, wished she did. At the time if the original interview, the dipsy doodle duo had the power to restrict the questions. They have no clout and nothing to lose now.

The money maker would be H alone. Uncontrolled. Unfiltered . Word salad free. An interview like the rolling stone Depp interview. Just two guys chatting over drinks with the tape recorder running.
SwampWoman said…
So, * is a user that feels she's better than everybody else, and Harry is a dickhead. That's kinda what we thought all along.
Mel said…
Henrietta...thank you for the posting!

This isn't the 1st story that has come out about her before meeting Harry. Interestingly, they all say the exact same thing. That she's only out for herself. Snobby. Shape shifter. Dad seems nice. Only wants to be seen in the most positive light.
Bellend is very vulgar - it refers to the glans penis, the end of the penis, beyi=ond the point of attachment of the prepuce.

Here endeth the anatomy lesson.
Hikari said…
Dear Mike can be counted upon to let slip nuggets of truth which the rest of the Royal family, indoctrinated in aristocratic omerta, will not. (Though Charles did make the infamous c***struck remark.) Mike volunteered breezily to a reporter once that none of the family had met Archie yet when 'Harry's firstborn' was more than 4 months old. It's one thing to not allow your kid to be photographed for the peasants without a huge payout, but for Harry to not want to show off his newborn son to the cousins with whom he'd been really matey and close pre-Meh is very telling. Zara was expecting Lena at Hawwy's wedding when her nonplussed face at Bishop Curry's sermon went viral; and has since had little Lucas. Mike seemed to realize after that admission that he wasn't meant to have made any reference to Hawwy's invisible kid or that none of the family had actually seen him, and looked abashed.

Now he's firmly in the "Hawwy is a B--terd' camp, but now that that candid remark is making the rounds to bolster the Sussex victimology narrative (who is the stool pigeon that ratted him out to the papers, I wonder?) I suppose he will have learned to keep his counsel from now on. It's not enough to not speak TO the Sussexes . . one must not speak ABOUT them, either. Even musing to oneself in the shower might be dangerous as the walls might have ears. With two such vengeful and petty snowflakes looking for every snub and inventing some if necessary, one can't be too careful.

Mike wasn't born Royal and has always been a forthright, straight-shooting chap as you'd expect from a commoner who played sport. Mike should sit at the feet of Peter Phillips for a lesson in keeping one's cards close to the vest and cutting someone with surgical precision. Images at St. George's Chapel show him with a slight amiable smile attached to his face. Unlike Mike, he's facing the odious pair head-on. Just looking at the photographs, it appears that the Phillips sibs are having a friendly encounter with the renegade cousins. But Peter spoke not a single word to either of them and just allowed them to prattle on as he stared at them with that fixed little smile. It appears that M was unnerved that her 'charming' act was met with stony silence despite the friendly face. Masterful play from the Queen's eldest grandson and purported 'real' favorite. Peter (b. 1977) is 6 years elder to Harry. Behind the genial-looking mien, he may have been thinking about pounding Hawwy's insufferable gob in. It'd be a natural reaction. Eugenie may be less bothered by Hawwy's actions, if that's the case, because he is 6 years elder to her, and she always looked up to him more. Peter has no reason to look up to Hawwy and see him as anything other than the annoying little toad who was still soiling his nappies while Peter was appearing in Royal events. Mike is a peer with Peter in age so those two would be natural mates one would think.

I want a poker face as good as Peter's.
CatEyes said…
@Lurkingwith Spoon
@OCGal

Thank you for that info, that it is 'Bellend". As usual the Nuties know everything! I am more delighted that @OCGal's definition is worse than the end of a donkey's posterior. How fitting!

Can we imagine the burn 'H' is feeling after that publized piece. Ouch!!
Hikari said…
@Henrietta,

Thanks for posting the Reddit piece. The little details (like running into Madam in a 7/11 in a strip mall) have the ring of veracity. Funny how in the Rags to Riches saga of Sparkle Markle, we have never before heard that she ever condescended to do retail or wait tables like all the other struggling hoi polloi. Or that she would have ever lived with a roommate that she wasn't screwing for free room and board. Maybe she was . . ? I'd assumed that poor dear sucker Daddy had footed the bill for her own apartment and supported her with living expenses so she'd have time to go to auditions.

I think since the PR disasters of recent weeks, the gloves are coming off and more and more stories like this will be coming out. This one may just be on Reddit but I was frankly amazed by the Spectator piece recently posted in which the author comes out and identifies M as having textbook personality disorder. He references it again when discussing her potential bid for elected office as 'DSM-5 levels of delusional fantasy.' Until now, discussion of her perceived mental illnesses and potentially criminal past have been the sole province of the Interwebs. I have yet to come across a MSM piece linking her to organized prostitution, yachting or Epstein but perhaps it's only a matter of time.

The title of her first blog "Working Actress" was probably some sly in-joke to a very common way for aspiring starlets to fund their lifestyles in Hollywood while awaiting their big break. Because if there's one thing M's resume shows (apart from her entirely repudiating any bit of blackness within herself) it's that prior to landing a gig as a suitcase girl on Deal, M could hardly be described as a 'working' actress. She was doing anything BUT working as an actress.

M is an absymal actress because she's got no inner core of personality or soul to build upon. She's an empty vacuum of rage, pretension and avarice but no real 'self'. Turns out to be good or even moderately average at portraying fake people, one cannot oneself be a fake person underneath.
I expect she's already plotting how they will handle the next funeral ...
xxxxx said…
@Henrietta

That Meghan account looks true to me. Thanks. Tom Bower's book should be very good, and will come out before Harry's. Meaning, it will establish a popular narrative that H will have trouble countering, in the Meghan chapters of his book. Why is his book pushed into the vague future? This just might be due to Meghan interfering with the ghost writer too much. The same reason the Spotify and Netflix projects never get done. Meghan controlling = chaos.
xxxxx said…
@Cats
Lady Colin Campbell told GB News: “Between the booing and the cold-shouldering that they got from everybody, my understanding is that by the time they left they were absolutely spitting bricks.

“And then the coup de grace as far as they were concerned was not only that they were booed, but while they were waiting for their car, nobody would speak to them except Zara. Mike Tindall avoided them like the plague. He made absolutely sure he did not catch their eye.”


What a laugh! You can always depend on Mike Tyndall. I liked all the photos of the Royals, as they all turned out for the Royal Ascot. Top tier, second tier, they all showed to give the races and Great Britain a brilliant gloss on a gloriously sunny day. A day to leave all cares behind.
Maisie said…
Regarding Mike Tindall’s pet name for Hazbeen:

We like to use the name ‘Richard Edward’ as a substitute for the slang words that others might find offensive.
Sandie said…
https://youtu.be/IHswcMQZ-_o

The latest Palace Confidential ... not much about the Royals in Montecito.
Fifi LaRue said…
I watched The Body Language Guy yesterday, and he featured Taz, a * commentator. Very interesting. Cockroach has continually changed herself, and dumped people to attain what she sees as the next level of society. Lots of photos of cosplaying Diana, and changing from being a lifestyle blogger to being a fake humanitarian. * is now cosplaying Michelle Obama, and it is creepy. Taz labeled it, Single White Female.
DesignDoctor said…
Thank you Henrietta for posting such an interesting comment.
Mel said…
Next interview....

Interview Mm first...give her free rein. Don't challenge her on anything. Lead her down the path. Be real chummy, you're on her side. Meanie poopy head Queen anyway.

Next...interview H. Also give him free rein, on same topics. Also lead him down the path. His meanie dad, and slimy brother. And his wow! sister-in-law.

Next: interview them together. Call out any discrepancies. Challenge them on everything. Every single thing.

Better yet...have those 4 guys from the Body Language Panel do all the interviews. They are *good*!

Or combine them with Martin Decoder, who is also very good.
Sandie said…
Blind Item #5
The writer/mouthpiece for the alliterate one is finding himself increasingly shut out by the alliterate one. Don't be shocked if he lashes out and throws her under the bus.

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/

Not renowned for accuracy of blinds posted, but interesting that this possibility has entered the conversation.

The comment posted by @Henrietta is a lot more believable!
Hikari said…
Wild Boar,

Thank you for the informative anatomy lesson! An inventively scatological insult to be sure. Veddy British. I had heard the term bell-end and I assumed it was a reference to the bell curve, with the 'bell ends' being the super sup-par individuals that make up the flat end parts. Which would describe Hawwy. I'm sure that's where the name comes from but instead of merely connoting someone of moronically low intelligence, it's even worse. Maybe it's both? Both would surely apply to JCMH. Is it the same as 'knobhead'?

I will quote Bridget Jones and say that Hawwy appears to be a great big knobhead with no knob. A failure and wastoid of a human being in every sense. His wife same. Too bad Elon Musk couldn't blast them out of our atmosphere forever. They could be King and Queen of their own planet in a galaxy far far away where we won't have to look at them or hear their incessant whining.

Fifi,

According2Taz is my go-to Harkle commentator besides here. She is a very engaging camera personality, very vivid and well-spoken and despite her chosen topic, very life-affirming. Her insights are valuable for a number of reasons--she spends a lot of time crafting these videos and puts a lot of thought into them, and as a British woman who is *'s own age (Taz is around 40 give or take a couple of years; she just had a birthday recently), she offers her 'woman on the street' perspective as to how the toxic couple is perceived in the UK. I highly recommend following her and watching the archive. Jesus, the BLG, has become a new source of entertainment for me, and I know the Sussex Squad is targeting him hard; his lampoons of M&H keep getting more and more pointed, I think the more he gets harassment from the sugar trolls. Taz is always pretty serene but I do wonder if the SS is making her life hell behind the scenes. *'s most dedicated commentators have had her number for years and are too uncomfortably close to the truth. I think the inevitable lawsuit against the Tom Bower book might make for some Heard-Depp level media coverage and hopefully will drain the rest of Hawwy's fortune. These two will never shut their evil yaps until he's out of money, so the sooner Hawwy is broke the sooner we might hope for some peace and quiet.

abbyh said…


Thanks for questioning why a particular post did not post.

It wasn't me. The system, for reasons I have yet to figure out, will sometimes send a post to the spam folder. I try to check it every so often but I'm just not doing this as frequently as the moderate folder.

Thanks for adding Part 1, etc. That helps.

Henrietta said…
The one thing I hope Omid Scobie tells the truth about is Mudslide Manor and who really owns it. I think PC bought it in an LLC and then leased it to the Sussexes. But my guess is that they've defaulted on their lease and PC is having the house sold from under them.
Elsbeth1847 said…
Does anyone have any dates about the book publishing dates? Tom and anything from LA



Enbrethiliel said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid
I expect she's already plotting how they will handle the next funeral ...

It's chilling to realize that you're right.
Henrietta said…
Hikari said:

Just looking at the photographs, it appears that the Phillips sibs are having a friendly encounter with the renegade cousins.

This really surprised me because I thought for sure that after Liar and Friar implicitly and anonymously called Anne a racist on global TV that these would be the family relationships that Friar would lose first. I think we all know it's only a matter of time before Liar and Friar name her and/or allow someone else to do so, and I just really thought that her kids would turn on them, but they -- with the exception of Mike -- seemed so magnanimous at the service. Maybe Anne's being named the Royal patron of the Marines, in Harry's place, had a calming effect on her kids. That was an unmistakable vote of confidence in Anne by the Queen.

Theetome said…
Is their house for sale?
Henrietta said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid said...

I expect she's already plotting how they will handle the next funeral...

Enbrethiliel said...

It's chilling to realize that you're right.

Is it possible for them to simply not invite her?
DesignDoctor said…
https://www.exposingsmg.com/blog/meghan-markle-and-serena-williams-fake-besties

This article from a blog tells the story of *'s faux friendship with Serena Williams with lots of pictures and video.

Henrietta said…

Blogger Theetome said...

Is their house for sale?

Isn't the rumor that it's been quietly on the market for a while? A so-called pocket sale?

Hikari said…
@Henrietta,

The key word is “seems”. Peter and Zara have Been to hundreds of royal events by now—more than Harry. Even though they have never been working Royals or titled by their mother’s choice, her standing has made them favorites of Gran and sure invites to all the premier Royal events. They knew that hundreds of cameras were documenting the occasion for posterity. From a distance yeah they sure do look friendly. Friendlier than Mike and Earl Snowdon pointedly ignoring them on their other side. But the smiles were strictly for the long distance optics. I am pretty sure that anyone on the steps would have felt the Arctic atmosphere. Peter looks very genial, but if you catch the glimpse where smegma drops her mask for a second, it’s because Peter didn’t make a single reply to any of her gambits And just looked unflinchingly at her with that little smile not saying a single word. His department was that a gentleman. He wasn’t grimacing, spewing profanities or trying to punch Hawwy in the face. His conduct was aristocratically impeccable. But he was ignoring them while looking straight at them which is a lot harder to pull off than what Mike was doing by refusing to make eye contact and completely turning his body away. Peter was there but not there. He made sure that Markle and Hcsaw that he was looking at them, but the level of his attention was no more than if they were an annoying fly buzzing in front of his face. If one turns away from the target and pretends to be deep in conversation with someone else such as Mike did, the targets can pretend to themselves or maybe even convince themselves that the other person didn’t see them and hence they’re ignoring was not intentional. Peter’s “cut dead” Penetrated even Markle’s self delusion because he gave not speaking to her his full attention. You can just about see Narkle flinch.

I’m sure Zara would’ve preferred not to speak to them at all too But she actually had a very important job; I think she was deputized by her mother to park her self at the top of the stairs and engage the Twats until the senior royals had had a chance to escape. That necessitated pretending to be interested in making conversation with them just long enough until the others were well away. Zara did brilliantly. We can bet our booties that if Anne was the senior royal libelously labeled a racist, her children are not going to forget that and will take it to their graves. Personally I don’t think it was Anne, Because I don’t believe that she would entertain a conversation with Harry. My money is on Charles being the target. After all, he controls the purse strings. Interesting how this interview got rolled out around the exact time that the bank of dad dried up his hair he whined to Oprah about how his father had “cut him off“ at the age of 36. That was petty revenge. Also I think it was Charles because out of all the royal family, he would be the one most hurt by that allegation. Anne is tough as old boots, and Isn’t useful to Harry in terms of giving him a cent;
That arrow would be blunt on her. But Charles? The one who has friends of color all over the globe, who walked his biracial daughter-in-law down the aisle and stood in for her father? That would hurt.
Rebecca said…
@Hikari
I was frankly amazed by the Spectator piece recently posted in which the author comes out and identifies M as having textbook personality disorder. He references it again when discussing her potential bid for elected office as 'DSM-5 levels of delusional fantasy.' Until now, discussion of her perceived mental illnesses and potentially criminal past have been the sole province of the Interwebs
________________
I was amazed too. And I wonder if the article would have come to the attention or been read by anyone connected to the Royal Family? It’s a very powerful indictment of of her. Surely if the Spectator UK had put it out there instead of the US version, she would have sued—wouldn’t she?

Magatha Mistie said…

Heard Mentality

Around the pole
in 80 ways
Humping, grinding
affected sashays
Ho-ned her craft
on b*llsh*t parlez
Meh’ speciality
liquid amber sprays…

Sandie said…
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ce4oTc5o57U/

Turns out William wrote a letter to the partner of the Capital officer who died (Brian Sicknik) last November. Here is the letter:

Dear Sandra,

Please forgive me if I am intruding but I wanted to write and let you know how sorry I am about the death of your partner, Brian. Having recently watched documentary footage of the harrowing events that took place at the Capitol building I wanted to acknowledge the patriotism and selflessness of Brian.

By all accounts Brian performed valiantly whilst on duty and despite suffering injuries continued to do his utmost to protect those inside. I was terribly saddened to hear that he passed away the following day and I hope you can take some comfort from knowing that it is thanks to law enforcement officers like Brian that the situation did not escalate further and democracy was upheld.

I know that words cannot hope to provide comfort to you at this dreadful time, but I wanted to let you know that you and Brian’s family are very much in my thoughts.

With my thoughts and prayer,

William.
Magatha Mistie said…

🎵The Ugly Duckling🎵
Apologies:Danny Kaye

Phuck a Duk’

There once was an ugly quisling
His wife rather stubby
slightly brown
All of his kin
Said in royal spin
Fack off, get out of town

So they went, with some snark
Load of twaddle from his narc
Full of slurry and his usual frown

Those puerile fugly quislings
Still wandering far and near
In every place
Was said to their face
Fack off, fack out of here…



Sandie said…
@Hikari
I agree that it was Charles who made the comment, but certainly not in a racist way, although they weaponized it as such. He was probably excited at the idea of having mixed race grandchildren!

The conversation at the top of the stairs with Zara was banal, according to lip readers. The hapless one started the conversation commenting about the weight she has lost (I suspect he lives with a wife who is obsessed with her weight - just stop scoffing and use the swimming pool and gym!). Zara's reply was to point out that she has not lost weight or something like that. There was certainly nothing warm about that conversation. I wonder if there is not something that happened behind the scenes with the duo that really pushed his family over the edge (except for the 'guaranteed to be friendly' Edward and Jack, and the 'still on your side' Eugenie (lots of practice of embracing scandalous ones with her parents).
Sandie said…
https://mobile.twitter.com/mailonline/status/1537378230826590208

What really struck me about this round table discussion Catherine had about the early childhood years research (in comparison with round table discussions the duchess of Montecito puts on):

Participants were given an information pack.
There were government ministers there.
They were taking notes.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Rebecca
I’m sure the RF are well aware
of her deficits,
mental/physical/social…🥺
Clever to publish in US,
less chance of suing.
If she does, madam has to defend
her mental state, hahaha!!
Bring it on.

Frederick Barclay, Spectator owner,
has very deep pockets!





CatEyes said…
@Nutties

Thank you all who gave this American an additional label ("bellend) to my previous relatively tame usual 2 word cussword vocabulary. It will sound so perfect until finally another Yank stops and ask me "Bell what?" and I will start blushing and stammering finally just have to capitulate and tell them I found it on the Nutty Flavor blog. Or tell them to look up Harry's naked Las vegas picture and it's a definition of the word. Hey, they will figure it out!

You guys are on fire with these recent posts. I hope big Mikey reads here, and Princess Anee, and Charles and etc.....

Oh and wouldn't that be priceless if during a 'hard ball' interview (doubtful if it's Oprah) JustH is asked how he felt about his new honorific title the royal family member bestowed on him? Teh he he!!

Ok, here I go..."bellend, Bellend, BELLEND Harry". Balless and bellend good King Harry!

Magatha Mistie said…

Scooby won’t reveal owt,
too scared of the squad.

Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar
Bellend is vulgar,
but so apt, I used it earlier
Bellends of Soho!!

I’ve been busy and I’m behind with my reading! 😎

Mike T’s name for Mole….it’s only a swear word I’ve heard a certain type of man say, I’ve never heard a female say it.

All said and done…it’s the best insult directed at Mole, particularly as it’s by a family member! 😂
Enbrethiliel said…
@Henrietta
Is it possible for them to simply not invite her?

I actually think she hopes never to return to the UK, so even if they did invite her, she might not go. But one should never underestimate the creativity of a malignant narc who wants to make someone else's special day all about herself.

On the other hand, I've given the matter a bit more thought and don't think she will try to upstage a funeral. She'll probably "leak" something about the way she and her children are honoring the memory of "Granny" and do a cemetery pap walk with them. But she won't be odious. She will wait until Prince Charles's coronation for that.
Sandie said…
The Cambridges Missing Lilibet's Birthday Felt Like a "Kick in the Teeth" to the Sussexes, Source Says

They were scheduled to be in Wales, to be fair.

https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/cambridges-lilibet-birthday-party-kick-in-the-teeth-sussexes/

This story is everywhere, and here is an excerpt:

"It was a kick in the teeth that the Cambridges didn’t attend," the source told Heat. "For Meghan, it just strengthened her resolve to not come back."

Enbrethiliel said…
"For Meghan, it just strengthened her resolve to not come back."

Oh, look, she found herself a convenient excuse for never going to a country which loathes her. And it lets her blame other people instead of asking herself whether her unpopularity could be in any way her own fault.
HappyDays said…
Henrietta: Thank you for the Reddit account by the woman who says she knew Meghan before she climbed to the lofty level of being a D-list actress few people had ever heard of until she started dating (Entrapping) Harry.

I think the account is believable.

It echoes a post on Quora from a woman who was a member of the Northwestern University chapter of Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority with Meghan. I find it interesting that she recounts how mean Meghan was, to the point that Meghan allegedly bullies two girls she thought didn’t measure up to her standards of coolness so much that at least one of her targets considered dropping out of the sorority. She described Meghan as “cruel,” which is an adjective that for me is not a description I would use to describe someone without careful consideration prior to saying or writing it to describe a friend or associate.

Then the Quora woman backs off and makes excuses for Meghan.

But at its core, in college Meghan sounded much like the account you posted about Meghan after college. She sounds like an elitist snob, full of grandiosity and haughtiness.

Here’s the Quora post:

Here’s another bit of TEA about Meghan’s bullying. This time, it’s a comment that I believe is still visible on Quora from a woman who states she was in the Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority chapter with Meghan at Northwestern. It sounds like classic Meghan behavior. That Meghan quickly wormed her way into nothing less than the British Royal Family is beyond any fiction bestseller. But as the saying goes: Truth is stranger than fiction.

This woman describes Meghan, as “cruel,” which I define as far beyond “mean.” To me, cruelty indicates that the person being cruel derives a certain sort of sick pleasure from mistreating another person (including children), or an animal. Most people would be mortified to be described as such.

From Quora:
Question:
Is Meghan Markle a nice person?

Anonymous
Answered March 27, 2020
I was friends with Meghan Markle in college (Woo go Northwestern!) so I can answer this one.

My personal opinion is that she could be very nice but also very cruel. It all depends on who you were. To her “crowd” or friends like me, she was very nice and friendly.

But to people she disliked or did not care for, or people who displeased her in some way, she could turn like a switch and become very mean.

At one point, her bullying of two friends of mine ( I will call them “Sam” and “Katie” ) became so bad, that both friends would refuse to come to events if they knew Rachel was there. One of them considered quitting the sorority because of it.

However, even though Rachel could have a few bad moments, I do not think she is a horrible person. She could also be very nice and friendly, which is how she was most of the time. What people need to realize is that most people are not 100% kind, compassionate people. Most people are not nice to every single person they meet, and I do not believe it is fair to put her on a pedestal and expect her to act perfectly 100% of the time.

Was what Rachel did to my friends wrong? Yes. But most people I knew in college could be quite mean, and could bully others at times, and I am willing to bet the person reading this has been mean to people as well.

So who are you to judge?

So while I do not think Rachel is the next Mother Theresa, I do not think she is a horrible human being either. What I think she is, is normal. And I think she should be treated like a normal human being.

P.S I would like to say I was never a “best” friend of Rachels, though I was involved in the sorority she was in and knew her well enough for us to call each other friends. Also, Im going Anonymous so I dont get death threats or nasty comments from anyone. Sorry, but I will not be answering any questions/comments. And no, Rachel and I are no longer in contact with each other, we went our separate ways after graduation.

March 26, 2021 @ 9:47 AM
Sandie said…
A very interesting post from:

https://celticcrossanon.tumblr.com/post/687274027982667777/on-harry-giving-back-his-duke-of-sussex-title

On Harry Giving Back His Duke of Sussex Title

I’ve seen some rumours about this lately.

If Harry returns his title of Duke of Sussex to the crown, he goes back to being Prince Harry of Wales (the same surname that he used at the polo).

Meghan then becomes Princess Harry of Wales.

If this happens, I have almost no doubt that Meghan and Harry will be referred to in the press by the following inaccurate names:

Prince Harry of Wales (accurate)

Princess Meghan of Wales (inaccurate)

Harry and Meghan, Prince and Princess of Wales (also inaccurate).

If the above happens, then they will be appropriating the titles of Prince Charles, the Prince of Wales, and Camilla, who is technically the Princess of Wales but who is known as the Duchess of Cornwall.

Harry and Meghan can get away with this by saying that they are not using the ‘the’ in front of 'Prince" or 'Princess’, so it is still a subsidiary title, which is technically true.

Then when Prince Charles becomes king, we will have

Prince William, the Prince of Wales

Princess Catherine, the Princess of Wales

Prince Harry of Wales, incorrectly referred to as Harry, Prince of Wales

Princess Harry of Wales, incorrectly referred to as Princess Meghan of Wales and as Meghan, Princess of Wales

Even without any incorrect usage by the press, the average reader won’t be able to tell the difference between e.g. Prince Harry of Wales and Prince William, the Prince of Wales.

This creates a situation where Harry and Meghan have manoeuvred themselves into a position of false equivalency with the true Prince and Princess of Wales, William and Catherine.

Once this happens, cue screams of racism about the BRF 'taking away’ Meghan’s title of “Princess of Wales’ and giving it to Catherine.

This all comes about because the media does not use the correct titles for members of the BRF (and ex-members), so people don’t know what the correct titles are. I don’t blame the people for this, as I don’t know all the correct forms either, but I do see that it creates an opportunity for Meghan and Harry to exploit to raise their status. It will also allow them to rebrand as 'Prince and Princess of Wales’ and drop the doomed Sussex brand.

I have seen articles about Lady Louise not taking up her Princess title that say Meghan is a princess as well (which she is, technically), so there is some PR floating around about this. I expect to see more in the future.

The above is why I am currently quite happy to see Harry remain the Duke of Sussex for the rest of his life. Unfortunately, with the recent rumours about Harry handing back his titles, I feel that if he does hand back his titles, it will be the start of a PR campaign to create a rival Prince and Princess of Wales, i.e. Harry and Meghan, the Prince and Princess of Wales.

I could be wrong. I will wait and see how this plays out in real time.
--------------------------------

My opinion:
The royal family often 'make up their own rules'. At school and in the army, William and Harry used the surname Wales, which is incorrect. When they need a surname, it is Mountbatten-Windsor. As we have seen, following polo, recently, Harry has reverted to using Wales as a surname.

However, if the duo are planning to 'rebrand' themselves as Prince and Princess of Wales, the Palace will quickly correct that in an official press release. But, with commentators like Scobie, plus all the tabloids that insist on using 'Kate Middleton' and 'Meghan Markle', even though they are incorrect, will simply ignore the correction from the Palace. At last, TBW will be the princess she always wanted to be, and a very prestigious one.
Mel said…
Isn't that like asking the bride to leave her wedding to go attend your child's planned at the last minute birthday party?
Sandie said…
@Enbrethiliel
Thanks for the tea from Quora. One never knows if these stories are true or completely made up. If it is genuine, I suspect that the person who posted it participated in mean and bullying behaviour and thus defends it.

Shadow psychology: What is TBW always going on about? Kindness. Compassion. Justice. Fairness. Being bullied ... She is completely blind to her own behaviour that does not live up to her virtue signalling preaching.
Hikari said…
@Sandie,

The scenario you describe may be why JCMH hasn't been stripped of Sussex yet.

It really burns my bacon that articles (generated by Sunshine Sachs, no doubt) are now making the rounds asking, "Will Catherine become Princess of Wales?" YES. She will become THE Princess of Wales when her husband gets promoted to THE Prince of Wales. The heir to the Crown is always THE Prince of Wales. William would have to be invested first, which will happen swiftly when his father accedes to the throne. Charles was made PoW by the Queen when he was 20, and in the normal course of events, (ie, his mother not being so long-lived) he'd have become King years ago and created William Prince of Wales already. But obviously that title is still occupied. While I am glad the Queen is still with us, I have a strong feeling that had William and Catherine already been made Prince & Princess of Wales shortly after their marriage, we wouldn't have the odious situation we have now. Harry's bint may never have been approved to join the family and even if the marriage went through, Harry's wife could not successfully make a ploy for the use of the 'Wales' title if William were already PoW. He just wouldn't have stood for it.

Things would look very different for Brand Sussex and there may have never been such a think if the Queen had not been around when M got her claws into Hawwy. Unfortunately that isn't the situation we have.

Diana stans don't seem to understand that we cannot reserve the title Princess of Wales for her in perpetuity like retiring a famous athlete's jersey number. Diana was not the first Princess of Wales and she won't be the last. Camilla's being granted the Queen Consort title--a title Diana never got to wear and wouldn't have even had she lived--is a stickier matter owing to the backstory. If Charles had met and married Camilla after the death of his first wife, to whom he had been faithful, there wouldn't be such an outcry about Diana being supplanted as the QC. Camilla has proved her mettle now and has been an excellent consort to Charles and should be accorded the respect of the title that belongs to the wife of the King . . but as much as she's grown on me, I haven't forgotten that she was NOT a nice person to Diana and neither was Charles.

Anyway, yeah, we know Narkle will milk the Princess Henry of Wales title. I guess the Palace could inform the couple that they will face stiff financial penalties every time the title 'Princess Meghan of Wales' is used incorrectly.
Henrietta said…
HappyDays,

Thank you for bringing the tea over from Quora. I don't lurk over there at all. I also think it sounds credible.

It's easy to forget how charming and calculating sociopaths can be. I don't talk about my sociopath ex a lot because the memories are still so painful and enraging (the latter because his abuse was so deliberate). But to my ex's friends and work colleagues, they still think he's "the nicest guy in the world." Sociopaths' Jekyll-Hyde nature is very hard to explain to someone who has never experienced it.

Kappa Kappa Gamma doesn't sound like a nice place to be at all.


Girl with a Hat said…
if the Twats decide to play with their titles to try to pass off as the Prince and Princess of Wales, then I can see the UK Parliament changing the law to remove everything from the unhairy by even removing his title of "Prince"
Henrietta said…
If Harry returns his title of Duke of Sussex to the crown, he goes back to being Prince Harry of Wales (the same surname that he used at the polo).

WBBM,

Can you confirm if this is true? For some reason I have a memory of your having said titles don't work this way, but I can't remember anything else about it.
Theetome said…
“Answered March 27, 2020
I was friends with Meghan Markle in college (Woo go Northwestern!) so I can answer this one.”

The problem is that Northwestern alumni say, “go cats” and not “go northwestern” just like Auburn graduates say “war eagle” to each other.

Based on that I do not believe that person went to northwestern.
Enbrethiliel said…
Quoted by @Sandie:
This creates a situation where Harry and Meghan have manoeuvred themselves into a position of false equivalency with the true Prince and Princess of Wales, William and Catherine.

Once this happens, cue screams of racism about the BRF 'taking away’ Meghan’s title of “Princess of Wales’ and giving it to Catherine.


Interesting. Maybe two years ago I would have laughed at this latest brainfart from *, because "everybody knows" that only one man can be Prince of Wales and only his wife can be Princess of Wales . . . but the lengths to which people will be obstinately ignorant and insistent upon what they "know" has floored me since then. Given the sort of supporters * still has, this cracked plan just might work.

On the other hand, having people refer to her that way and actually using the title are different things. Her sugars can tweet it all they like, but she could never introduce herself again (a la the Bench video) using a fancy title.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Sandie

It was @HappyDays who shared the Quora article. :-)

I remember it from a few years ago. My own interpretation of the poster's backtracking at the end was that she wasn't involved in the bullying, heard everything secondhand, and just wanted to be fair to an old sorority sister she had never been close to and hadn't seen in years. If she had properly witnessed * being cruel, she would have been more willing to stand by the story. But since she hadn't -- and the world hadn't seen how bad * could get -- she decided to play it safe. The whole post gives off the vibe: "I think this story is true, based on what I know of the parties involved . . . but I can't absolutely be sure and it's also possible that * might have changed since then, so I don't want to hold it against her."
Sandie said…
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18918832/kate-middleton-dress-royal-ascot-prince-william-queen/

Peter Phillips, admittedly not a working royal and without a title, gets to ride in a carriage at Ascot with his girlfriend who is still, technically, married. I have no problem with that as it is clearly a serious relationship (they were at school together and she is a friend of Zara's), but I think TBW will somehow claim she was unfairly treated. Or maybe riding in a carriage at Ascot is something she is really not interested in and thinks is stupid (just like royal protocol and tradition and precedence) so this won't even register with her.
Hikari said…
@Rebecca

I wonder if the (Spectator) article would have come to the attention or been read by anyone connected to the Royal Family? It’s a very powerful indictment of of her. Surely if the Spectator UK had put it out there instead of the US version, she would have sued—wouldn’t she?

One would certainly think so. Unless she does in fact have an official diagnosis on the DSM-5 which has been quashed along with information about her alleged yachting activities and connection to Soho House and the exact nature of her relationship with Markus Anderson.

I believe all those rumors about her. Fits right in with her monetizing everything schema. * wouldn't have any moral qualms about screwing men for money and luxury gifts. She used all her live-in partners and her ex-husband like sugar daddy johns and that's how she's using Hawwy, or more like how she's using Hawwy's fortune. Samantha called her little sister a professional escort which is a more civilized way of putting it. I suppose it could just have been pot-stirring, in which case M got her revenge by putting it about that Sam was a terrible mother to her children by multiple men. But it would be extremely unusual to call one's sister a prostitute without there being some basis in fact for doing so. Sam didn't call M a 'sl*t' or none too picky about her boyfriends. She came out and said in so many words that M had earned money in the past as a paid sexual companion.

We don't hear about that from the British tabloids, NOR do we hear a whiff of anything like 'surrogacy' around Archie. Those papers are out for her now, but still they stop short of lobbing the biggest accusations. It's all 'Catherine and William are so MEAN to us, boo hoo ..' Those super-injunctions must lock things up tighter than the Tower of London locks up the Crown Jewels. There've been some thefts of the Crown Jewels in the past but nary a jot do we read about the weird pregnancy circus of the Duchess or how her credentials as an humanitarian are bogus. Unless M thinks her sex work (alleged) qualifies her as a humanitarian. It certainly involves very close proximity to humans with needs.


Hikari said…
@Sandie

What a lovely letter William wrote. He tries to be genuine and walk the walk not just talk about it. That letter was the perfect length and pitched just right, and heartfelt. This is how you do Royaling. Hopefully Brian's wife will treasure that note forever.

I can imagine the conversation with let's say it was Charles went something like this:

"Guess what, Pa? Meghan's up the duff." (OK, maybe he just said pregnant but UtD fits with the Haz mentality.)


"That's smashing news, son. Who do you suppose he or she will take after? Oh, ring the bell for a fresh teapot, will you?"

It is a LONG way round the houses to get to 'Racist comment about dark skinned baby!' from here. Presumably this very identical question can't have any negative connotation if both parents are of the same race? Those two make me sick. Maybe Maggot didn't intend at her wedding to throw Charles or any other senior Royals under the bus in this particular way but then Chas and Granny refused to capitulate on every demand of hers and they had to pay.

@Raspberry

Mike T’s name for Mole….it’s only a swear word I’ve heard a certain type of man say, I’ve never heard a female say it.

All said and done…it’s the best insult directed at Mole, particularly as it’s by a family member! 😂


Another name British blokes bat around for each other is the slang for the female genitalia. That's a uniquely Brit custom, I think. The C word is absolute Kryptonite; the very worst insult to a female imaginable. American guys *will* call another guy a synonym for kitty, which denotes the recipient's lack of masculinity/coward status. But that's different, amusingly enough from the C word which denotes toxic levels of (w)itchiness, seeing as the organ they describe is one and the same. I've just never heard guys use the four letter C word about one another. Ah, semantics!


Rebecca said…
@Magatha
I’m sure the RF are well aware
of her deficits,
mental/physical/social…
_______
Indeed! But that Spectator commentary was the most direct and powerful public indictment of her that I’ve ever read. I imagine it would please certain senior Royals to see it in print.

Have any Nutties been to the races at Ascot? I love seeing all the outrageous hats and outfits. Today the Cambridges attended, and Kate wore a white frock with brown polka dots. I’m probably reading too much into it, but I’d like to think she was trolling Meghan cosplaying Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman.
Rebecca said…
After my previous post I found this from the Telegraph (with side by side photos of them):
The Duchess of Cambridge knows the power of a Pretty Woman moment, and so did Diana
Kate paid homage to the late Princess of Wales with a polka dot look at Royal Ascot
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10928023/Prince-William-mourning-collapse-relationship-Harry.html

The article is by Rebecca English, a respected royal reporters with integrity. From the article a reconciliation between the brothers seems impossible.

I tend to think that there was more that happened that has not been made public.

Full article here:

https://www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/news/royals/192854/furious-william-in-mourning-for-the-brother-hes-lost
@Sandie,

It would just be Prince Henry and Princess Henry nothing else. 🤗

According to Lady C, he isn’t losing his ducal title or otherwise.
@Hikari,

Arh yes the ole C word! It’s made a bit of comeback, not in my part of the UK though. 😂 During the Tudor period it was just another name for female genitalia and nothing vulgar about it. It was commonly used. I haven’t checked to see when it became a swear word.🤗
Karla said…
Sandie❤️
The title Prince of Wales is given only to the heir apparent—somebody who cannot be displaced in the succession to the throne by any future birth. The succession had followed which meant that the heir apparent was the eldest son of the reigning monarch or, if he was deceased, his eldest son and so on, or if the monarch's eldest son had died without issue, the monarch's second eldest son.
Harry is known as Prince of Wales because Charles holds that title and when Charles is King, Harry will no longer be Prince of Wales because his father will be King. And the title of Prince of Wales was given to Charles by the direct heir to the Crown. If Harry insists on being the Prince of Wales. Charles will be able to name William with another title to avoid such confusion.

When a member of royalty has been stripped of their title in the past, they usually assume a new title at the monarchy's discretion.
But....
When Edward VIII abdicated, he became known as the Duke of Windsor.
And if Harry resigns, he will have to involve the English parliament and follow its rules and only then sign letters of abdication in the presence of his father and brother, as happened with Edward VIII.
Edward went on to sign 15 separate letters of abdication in the presence of his younger brothers.

As Edward VIII was already King, this likely involved a lot more back and forth than the process the Duke and Duchess of Sussex would go through.
Karla said…
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Sandie said…
I found this in Wikipedia, but the same information is repeated in various places:

"Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex (born 1984), formally Henry, titled Prince Harry of Wales until 2018, son of the current Prince of Wales"

Wikipedia also has this (hilarious!):

"Harry, Prince of Wales (Blackadder), a fictional character in the first series of the British TV comedy Blackadder"

WBBM and other knowledgeable folk, once Charles becomes king, William becomes Prince of Wales, so surely he would no longer be able to call himself Prince Harry (Henry) of Wales? Surely this simply denotes that he is the son of the Prince of Wales? Does she thus have the right to call herself Princess Henry of Wales?
Sandie said…
I don't think any titles are going to be taken from them either other than effectively losing HRH as they cannot use it (but HRH is not a title).

Are they rebranding themselves? Is he nostalgic for his past life, or is he completely confused about who he is? Why use the name Harry Wales (incorrect) for polo, as he did at school and in the army?

The Dukedom is the superior title especially as it is a royal Dukedom, even without using the HRH.
SwampWoman said…
Raspberry Ruffle said: It would just be Prince Henry and Princess Henry nothing else.


I'll probably call her Princess THOT. Will that do?
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

I'm only now reading today's post and your Heard Mentality is brilliant! Well done 😂
Maneki Neko said…
@Raspberry Ruffle - replying to @Hikari

You piqued my curiosity when you wrote 'I haven’t checked to see when it became a swear word'. I looked it up and found this on Wikipedia of all places:

'Use of the word as a term of abuse is relatively recent, dating from the late nineteenth century.[7] The word appears not to have been taboo in the Middle Ages, but became taboo towards the end of the eighteenth century, and was then not generally admissible in print until the latter part of the twentieth century.'

The whole article is actually very interesting, at least for me.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunt#:~:text=considered%20obscene%22.,name%20of%20%22Gropecunte%20Lane%22
Hikari said…
Aha…Re. The Wales titles. So true. Twat is only entitled to use Princess Henry of Wales so long as Twit is the POW’s son. Once William takes over from Dad, Harry’s current position and Wales designation will pass to Louis, the second son of the incumbent PoW. George will take over his father’s current titles once he is of age. Once Hawwy adopted the Sussex title his Dukedom supplanted Wales. He’d have to give up Sussex to use Wales again but that could only last as long as the Queen is alive.

The Duke of Windsor colluded with Hitler and kept his title. Colluding with Netflix and Spotify is somewhat less bad. The RF’s better strategy is to let the festering duo keep that title as a sop but cut off every avenue of being able to monetize it in any way. If they can’t cash in on it or use it for self promotion, it’s meaningless. Especially America where we give sweet FA about British titles. Hawwy has got no estate nor land with this title, and the citizens of Sussex would chase him with pitchforks if he showed his ginger gob round there. The title is as meaningless as the couple is. Her Maj chose it for a joke because that’s what Hawwy is.
CatEyes said…
I think 'H' is by heartache over what he's done to the BRF "Prince of Wails' and * is 'Princess of Wails'.

Heavens know those two have caused many in the royal family to Cry. Hear that Meghan, I belive you caused the lovely Kate to Cry (and possivly good prince William), and methinks the good Queen, stoic and strong she is, has probably in private had tears over the freakin' mess those undeserving miscreants have created in such a very short time.

'Prince and Princess of Wails' it is for me!

I know for me, I will never, ever shed a tear over their "just deserts", no matter how severe or tragic, which I pray they get sooner than later!
Hikari said…
“The C*** Song (from The Trip) starring Steve Coogan
https://youtu.be/9cH0elKDOzs

Trigger warning: Bad words delivered humorously.

On YouTube, you will get canceled if you mention “Covid”. But you can say all of these words with impunity. Interesting.
Sandie said…
Note that in response to Samantha's lawsuit, she starts with 'Meghan is married to Prince Henry of Wales (also known as Prince Harry)'.

Unfortunately I cannot find a good copy of the actual document, and it is difficult to read the page posted here:

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-7.4863691/post-82951675
Karla said…
People often ask whether members of the Royal Family have a surname, and, if so, what it is. Members of the Royal Family can be known both by the name of the Royal house, and by a surname, which are not always the same. And often they do not use a surname at all.
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It was therefore declared in the Privy Council that The Queen's descendants, other than those with the style of Royal Highness and the title of Prince/Princess, or female descendants who marry, would carry the name of Mountbatten-Windsor
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https://www.royal.uk/royal-family-name
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At his wedding, Harry could have used his Royal House name (Prince of Wales) as a surname, but not with a royal title.


I don't think Harry can refer to him as Harry, Prince of Wales, on other occasions, because that title belongs to Prince Charles, as per the law governed by the English parliament. And in the English monarchy there cannot be two people who have the same title. This violates the laws of parliament. That's why he hasn't used it in America yet.
Blonde Gator said…
First, thank you all for such interesting tea and theories over the past several days. Much food for thought, and major pondering. It's been very enjoyable.

First off, Hikari's intriguing theory, I believe may be rather on point, and since * fancies herself to be Hollywood elite, a bit of forced bearding to cover a lavender relationship would not be out of the realm of possibility...nay, the more odd things begin to fall into place (moon bumps, and weird babydoll poses and other off things)...I suspect we may have a winner!!!

As for future self-styling titles of the dreaded duo, well. I understand Prince Michael of Kent and his bride will be retiring from public life shortly, and since that title of the Mrs. will be vacant, I suggest * could begin to use Princess Pushy V.2.0. Suitable, but I'm sure someone can come up with something more suitable to go along with Mr. Tindell's new name for Hairy. This is SUCH A GREAT SITE where we can learn new words and stuff! Again, thank you one and all for the insights and the tasty tea....I read far more than I comment (I feel I don't have much to add), so Cheers!
A post from the LSA posting that was flagged up - worth thinking about?

"Their narc spirals are a thing of beauty. Invite or no, they will contrive to find their asses in Scotland this summer. They need more content for their evil family snubbed us and made us feel unwelcome yet again, this time on Megan's birthday ( they really hate bw birthdays in that racist family) storyline.

And if there is one thing megan knows it's how to stalk the shit out of someone . Elizabeth is going to get stalked until she gets that damn picture with that God damn baby. Remember how she stalked the halls of Windsor in winter like a hungry lion for hours with the photographer, the former Clinton PR lady, her mother, Harry until she got that weird ass picture with PP, TQ and the unveiled Archie. That was allegedly the moment the former Clinton PR lady realized she was bat shit crazy and started planning on bailing..cuz who does that."

To follow how the titles are used for fathers & sons, it might help to look at the Gloucesters and Kents.

George V had 5 sons - while he was on the throne they were in birth order:
David, Prince of Wales, later Edward VIII, finally Duke of Windsor;
Albert, Duke of York, later George VI, HM's father, the other 4 were her uncles;
Henry, Duke of Gloucester;
George, Duke of Kent;
and Prince John, the forgotten one (was that name a curse?).

Henry had 2 sons, Princes William and Richard of Gloucester(like Richard III!) William died in an air crash in '72, his father in '74, so Richard became present Duke.

George also had two sons, Princes Edward and Michael. George Duke of Kent (another dubious character) died in '42 so Prince Edward became Duke of Kent aged 6. I think he's the young lad in a top hat at Geo.VI's funeral. He accompanied HM on that 1st balcony appearance at TTC.

Michael (the lookalike of the last Tsar) is still Prince Michael of Kent, his wife Marie-Christine (I had to look that up as a reminder!) is Princess Michael of Kent.

I hope this helps.

Perhaps H could be made Duke of Windsor? He'd be a `worthy' successor to the title!
The C-word first came `unspoken' to public attention in 1960 with the trial of `Lady Chatterley's Lover'. One girl in my class knew what the word was and whispered it to the rest of us. It was first uttered on a mainstream TV channel (Channel 4 - of course) in 2003, IIRC.

re George Duke of Kent and why he was `dubious' - it was coke, bisexuality and similar political views to his eldest brother.
Maneki Neko said…
Hubby read an article in the DM something about *, although he doesn't usually bother. The article is by an academic who counters some Sussex propaganda. He writes The achingly left-wing New Yorker magazine produced a bizarre contribution under the heading: 'Racism outshines Platinum Jubilee. It goes on to say seating the 6s behind senior royals was akin to American segregation-era laws that banned black people from eating in white restaurants. Can some people truly believe this outrageous distortion of facts?

The DM has a photo of * in 'double denim' - shirt & shorts - watching H play polo. She looks quite slim but the shorts don't suit her and are not flattering. She has no interest in the game so was she there hoping to meet someone with money?
I feel sorry for William, I can totally understand the dichotomy of feelings. On the one hand he’s lost a brother he thought he knew, and on the other he has a total traitor to negotiate around. 🥺

Maggot and Mole are a waste of space IMHO, they suck the air out of any positivity and joy. 😞

@Maneki Neko, many thanks for checking on the C word! 😛

@SwampWoman,

Oh I think Princess at the beginning of any moniker is still far too grand! 😂
Sandie said…
Interesting:

Fans of Theresa Longo
@BarkJack_
RUMOR CLARIFIED: No, Mike Tindall did not use unbecoming language whatsoever at Platinum Jubilee party. No one in attendance heard him use the word being reported. We spoke to several guests who say NO ONE was talking about the D&DoS
Sandie said…
@Karla
Thank you so much for your informative post about Harry using Wales as a surname. I just knew there was someone here who could lead me through the confusion! And I know see why I was wrong in my conclusion that William and Harry were wrong to use Wales as a surname.

I can understand why they have resorted to this - as a rebranding exercise - but, as you point out, confirming what I guessed, Prince Charles is not going to be Prince of Wales forever. Perhaps TBW does not know that DOS is actually the 'superior' title, and one that she cannot lose, or perhaps she just always wanted to be a princess and, well ... Diana was Princess of Wales ... everyone knows that!
Maneki Neko said…
I started reading the whole DM article, not just the introduction, and it sounded familiar. I realised it was taken from The Spectator and posted by Sandie. The introduction I quoted, however, is not in the original article.
Sandie said…
Further clarification:

Fans of Theresa Longo
https://twitter.com/BarkJack_
@BarkJack_

Given Mike Tindall's loyalty to HMTQ, his unwillingness to entertain the pair on the church steps & RF inability to respond, it's an easy story (unconfirmed planted by Sus PR) to concoct for maximum drama. The words weren't said according to party goers. Nothing of the sort!
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10929247/Back-high-horse-Prince-Harry-plays-polo-Santa-Barbara-Meghan-watches.html

My opinion: She has definitely lost a lot of weight. But she has always had the tummy and very broad shoulders and no waist (Sponge Bob!). I really do not understand the tummy ... she has a home gym, a swimming pool, plenty of grounds for some running or power walking, and the means to hire a nutritionist/dietician to advise her on what to eat and what not to eat. (Lemonade would definitely not be on the menu!)
Sandie said…
The Instagram account which posted about #MeghanMarkle’s voice note had to delete that post and then change their username to include “1” because THEY ARE NOT THE OFFICIAL INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT FOR HUBB COMMUNITY KITCHEN. It’s a fan account, simple!

https://mobile.twitter.com/home

I have not been able to verify the above, which seems to be false conclusions based on a glimmer of truth. What probably happened is that the HUBB CK went private on their social media accounts, probably because the deluge of criticism, and the SS, capitalizing on the situation, probably made a copy to promote their goddess.
Sandie said…
@WBBM
Thank you! I am loving your posts sharing history and background.
Sandie said…
Did she ever donate her payout from DM in that copyright trial as she claimed she would? Shades of Amber Heard?

I need to do a deep dive and try and find out, but if she had made such a huge donation, she would have released a deluge of PR. The money did also not go to Archewell as their only income has been from SS. She has been spending the money on itty bitty jewellery and ill-fitting, inappropriate designer clothes, hasn't she?
Karla said…
Sandie ❤️ Exactly
Interestingly, on their Wikipedia page this is said.
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Titles and styles
"Before his marriage, Harry used Wales as his surname for military purposes and was known as Captain Harry Wales in such contexts."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Harry,_Duke_of_Sussex
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If you wish, scroll down the page and at the end search for: Last edited 7 days ago. You will find Page History And notice the change date and this comment

"Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex: Difference between revisions.
Revision as of 14:58, 6 June 2022
this part is his full name and should be bolded as such
{{British Royal Family}}"
Enbrethiliel said…
@Sandie
I can understand why they have resorted to this - as a rebranding exercise - but, as you point out, confirming what I guessed, Prince Charles is not going to be Prince of Wales forever. Perhaps TBW does not know that DOS is actually the 'superior' title, and one that she cannot lose, or perhaps she just always wanted to be a princess and, well ... Diana was Princess of Wales ... everyone knows that!

I think you're right about *'s ignorance on this issue. Perhaps someone on her rebranding team has pointed out that the Queen is so elderly that even if * started adding "of Wales" to her name tomorrow, she wouldn't have very long to keep doing it. I would be more likely to point out that she can start styling herself "Princess Harry" whenever she wants, but she's probably throw some hot tea at me for that.

Given how hated she is in the UK and how obviously chilly Harry's relatives are with him, I would think she'd want to rebrand in a whole different direction. Drop the titles altogether and just be American. People would actually like that! And it would be very . . . dare I say it . . . authentic of her.

It would also help any political aspirations she may still have.

So, yeah . . . Lose the titles, Meghan. The last thing you want as baggage are your two years of fashion disasters and the disdain of everyone in the UK.
Henrietta said…
Sandie posted:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10929247/Back-high-horse-Prince-Harry-plays-polo-Santa-Barbara-Meghan-watches.html

My opinion: She has definitely lost a lot of weight.

Is anyone noticing the unbrushed hair, the wrinkled clothing, the unturned shirt collar? It's not like the denim she's wearing is some kind of linen blend. They assuredly have an iron at home, so what gives?

@Maneki Neko,

I couldn’t find the Spectator article in the DM. I read the article showing Maggot wearing the denim, but it wasn’t the article you were referring to. 🥴
Elsbeth1847 said…
Sandie Shadow psychology: What is TBW always going on about? Kindness. Compassion. Justice. Fairness. Being bullied ... She is completely blind to her own behaviour that does not live up to her virtue signalling preaching.

I suspect it is because that is how she wants to be seen as - the kind, compassionate and caring person people respect and speak lovely behind their back. And, if they say it often enough, people will associate these traits with them (meaning become truth so any awful stories must not be true/just vendictive). IDK but if you have to tell people what to feel, that sort of takes away from the idea of the spontaneity of the event and makes it seem much more calculatingly manipulative. Plus, eventually people often rebel about being told what to feel, especially when it comes off as a heavy handed Hollywood job.

You should be feeling this or that. Compare it to the analysis of Knives Out where there is a lot of very subtle underplay that would be missed completely if they didn't put it on the IMDB page. Not heavy brush strokes of feelings.

Hikari said…
@Henrietta

what gives?

My money’s on cocaine, pot and rose in quantity. Her recent weight loss may be down to her more unfettered access to her candy of choice. Maybe she’s on the Adderall again. For all her pretensions to sophistication, Meg was raised by two slovenly potheads and the California hippie grunge aesthetic is her baseline. So I can well imagine what a trial it is to her to cosplay Royalty and put on stockings, hats, formal hair, the whole schmear. She plays dress up but the attention to details at her grooming is nil. Harry looks like he smells, and she probably does too under the wigs and the slap.
According to today’s video, Lady C,…….if Mole was to put his styles and titles into abeyance he would just be a Mr Henry Windsor…not even with the hyphenated Mountbatten added! 😦

With the ducal title like I stated earlier up-thread Lady C stated he’d be Prince Henry and Maggot would be Princess Henry, no Wales etc., but Maggot being the person she is and as discussed here…she’d want to try and add Wales, but as we know, it has no official merit or weight. 🫠
Maneki Neko said…
@Raspberry Ruffle

Re The Spectator article by Gilbert T Sewall was mentioned by Sandie and Golden Retriever posted the whole thing on 14 June 7.31pm. For some reason, it is not in the online version of today's DM but I thought the introduction was interesting.
Hikari said…
I just watched a video by a tarot reader called Andie in which she deconstructs the “Rebecca Cord” saga.

I do not believe in tarot, or I should say I have deep reservations about it as an occultic practice, but she offers some good insights in her commentary. I can’t say whether she is getting information “from the cards”… She does say that she is very concerned that Harry is exhibiting such “dark energy” these days. Would the darkness call out the darkness, I wonder? If this were really satanic in origin, it seems like the cards would be saying that everything is great in Montecito. Not the case. Anyway, she reiterates that this little girl is the granddaughter of the Harkles gardener, and his family name is Worden. She read that “and earthbound exchange“ of some kind happen, which is most likely financial, and that the family now has regret for doing so. However, if Rebecca is the baby and both photos, her being connected with a present staff member of the Harkles does not jive with the one photo depicting MM from 10 or more years ago. This little girl would now be at least a preteen or older. In the photo Markle looks to be no more than her mid 20s, so in my opinion we’re talking more than 15 years ago, pre-Suits. It isn’t just a matter of not wearing make up, as her facial features are completely different and she’s had definite rhinoplasty and multiple other procedures since that photo was taken. Also appears to be about 25 pounds slimmer then she has now, and Photoshop can really only do so much. The picture of the baby Markle is holding appears to be of a child who is several months younger than the child sitting on the grass with a full head full of teeth. Is it even the same baby? The fact that one is in Black and White conveniently obscures whether or not this little girl has red hair compared to the other picture.

It’s pretty telling that Markle waited until returning to America before releasing these alleged photos of “Lili”. It’s also been suggested that the fiddling with her collar at the service and the visible recording devices were intentional—she WANTED to be seen trying to spy on people. Now the outcry for “an apology”…it’s ALL concocted for clicks. The dastardly duo has to know that Notoriety is the only thing they have to sell. But if it’s ever made public that the Queen Sat out most of her own Jubilee expressly to avoid being anywhere near the grifters and not because she was ill, I’m going to be incandescent with rage. She didn’t have to invite them, and despite people congratulating her for checkmating them brilliantly, I am still not sure it was the most prudent course. Attention of any kind, even of them crashing and burning, is still fuel to the narcissist. Like a sewer rat, she draws strength and power from rolling about in excrement. It’s her true element.

I still cannot believe that two children who is births or even continuing existence remain unconfirmed after 3+ years are listed in the line of succession like nothing is wrong. It’s like with her escalating displays of blatant deception, * is taunting the RF. There is nothing discreet about this fraud now. Other celebrities have pretended to be pregnant and pond a surrogate child off as the children of their bodies, but in these other cases, the children Carry the names of and live with the people who call themselves their parents, and they are most likely the genetic products of those people. *’s game is her unique brand of sick. H’s family has got to know they are dealing with two barking mad loose cannons. There can’t be any pretense that rationality or reconciliation anymore… Harkles are bat-shit crazy. Who is going to intervene in this? They both need locking up for the protection of society… Without access to the Internet for all that is holy.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Henrietta: TBS's slovenliness: Just in my personal observations, and it's probably a fact somewhere in the DSM, people who are mentally ill /personality disordered often have poor grooming and poor hygiene. Their disordered thinking keeps them from basic personal upkeep.
SwampWoman said…
Fifi LaRue said...
@Henrietta: TBS's slovenliness: Just in my personal observations, and it's probably a fact somewhere in the DSM, people who are mentally ill /personality disordered often have poor grooming and poor hygiene. Their disordered thinking keeps them from basic personal upkeep.


Yes, personal observation also, that people with great pain, either physical (cancer, etc.) or mental (depression, mental illness) will have poor grooming and poor hygiene. Drug addicts fit in there as well, but that may be under the umbrella of mental illness. Some people that are working so hard to finish projects that they barely eat may also appear unkempt, but I think that would be different. They usually catch up with the grooming when they finish.
Theetome said…
Most narcs dress very well. It’s part of their power trip.
Theetome said…
@hikari, maybe you have it backwards. Don’t you think that because they are in the line of succession, that they are confirmed as children of the 6s? (At least the children of Harry).

Misan Harriman’s children check out as their current ages in the other photo. His wife is also current.
SwampWoman said: ``Some people that are working so hard to finish projects that they barely eat may also appear unkempt, but I think that would be different. They usually catch up with the grooming when they finish."

That's me right now! The end of my 4000 word assignment is almost within sight- the deadline's next Friday. One last short section of conclusion, trimming the wording, checking the references and the photo credits still to go and I bet they take longer than I expect.

I don't think I've ever been so keen to have time for housework! Husband has been taking care of everything in the meantime, God bless him!
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