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The Long Slow Walk into the Sunset

 I've been quite worried about The Queen.  Each morning I wake up and wonder - did she pass?  how do I put a black border around this space?  what to write?  

I know that this would be a well planned out announcement and ceremony (the plans probably were started before her coronation) as  these are the people who live/breath, are immersed in protocol of how this should be done and think of all kinds of contingencies.  It is in good hands.

But I also think about the emotional fall out for the family, the employees who have a chance to see her in situations none of us get or the citizens of the UK - many of whom have never known another monarch before you get to the world's response. 

Or just the sheer loss of knowledge from dealing with the intricacies the politics of different countries, regime changes.  The world has changed so dramatically since she was crowned, let alone born.  I am reminded of my grandmother who once said that she could remember her first car ride and how fast it seemed to be zipping along at a racy 20 miles an hour.

Today I read that she will not have the traditional welcome to Balmoral ceremony.  Craigowan Lodge was fitted for a wheelchair lift.  Yes it is good to be accessible but I kind of wish it had happened before this.  It would have lessened the sadness of the need for it now.

The future is feels more heavy with each day.  Her world is getting harder to move about.  

So let's talk.

Please take a moment to read the rules as they change over time in response to what is happening.

Thanks you.



  

Comments

Mel said…
So interesting how the Harkles try to portray themselves as appealing to the youth, when Mm is older than the Cambridges and H.
And H is only 2 years younger than PW. They were raised as a matched set.

In reality it's the Harkles who portray as old and stale whilst the Cambridges appear as more youthful and vibrant.
SwampWoman said…
Observant One said: After reading the comments and wondering why we all seem to feel the same about her, I recalled an interesting guest on Oprah around 15 years ago - Gavin de Becker, a security expert who trains people how to predict and prevent violence. He explained that humans have primitive instincts that help us avoid physical danger and identify dangerous people. Our intuition signals us when something is wrong, before we have the chance to cognitively recognize it. All too often, we try to override our intuition by rationalizing it away. He explained why we should trust our instincts and never dismiss our intuitive signals, because they are rarely wrong.

Perhaps * evokes an intuitive danger signal and that explains why many of us are compelled to try to understand her. The engagement interview, the meme of coat flicking during her first “pregnancy” and the Twitter montage caused intuitive responses in me, like the hair on the back of my neck standing up. Her facial expressions and gestures seem so unnatural, even maniacal when you think about the double arm grab. Initially, it was reasonable to assume she was nervous or learning her role, but as time went on it became more obvious that our initial instincts were right. In addition, most of their friends have dropped them like a hot potato, a strong indication that her issues are indeed very serious and very real.


I think that the people that gravitated here did so because they had a person in their life that had mental illness problems and * set off all the same alarms. In some cases, it really IS a matter of life and death for a child to correctly read a mentally unstable individual in the home.

I know that even after being in a safe environment for over 40 years, I occasionally meet an individual that gives me the overwhelming feeling of danger that I had as a child. It's as though I have the soundtrack for the old Linda Ronstadt song "You're No Good" playing in my head. I can continue to make small talk and be charming, but I've got your number.

The people that are here have been immunized, so to speak, against having any contact with the incurable mentally ill.
SwampWoman said…
Observant One said...
@Ralph L - No, your observation is quite right. The One Young World Summit is sponsored by the World Economic Forum. Apparently, * likely does have political aspirations.


The WEF is evil IMO.
HappyDays said…
@WBBM:

My guess is the Harkles returning to the UK is related to several things, but it is mostly about money and trying to polish their heavily tarnished brand and the tattered ties to the institution of the monarchy and Harry’s family in particular.

I think their biggest immediate need for the trip is to obtain Netflix footage, which they are hoping will enhance their fraudulent image.


HappyDays said…
Regarding the Sussex video this fall: You can bet that access to them will be carefully controlled. The people attending theur “charity” events will be screened and their exposure to the unchoreographed public will be limited so they do not get booed as they did following the church service for the Jubilee.

They also might be trying to take another run at getting the money shot of Lilibet with HMTQ.

I can hear the Netflix execs telling them, “Don’t show your faces around here if you don’t return with that photo/video content.”
abbyh said…
There is this part of me which has been wondering how Netflix/it would be handled if they were booed again.

Observant One said…
@Swamp Woman Thank you for your reply to my comment. I agree that intuition regularly saves the lives of children and adults. If only more people listened to their instincts. The fear of being called rude or prejudiced may cause many to blow it off.

I also feel that the WEF is evil. I am not surprised that * has been involved with the One Young World Summit for a few years, along with Justin Trudeau. To me, this organization is molding young people to suit their globalist agenda. Maybe we were right to wonder if she had backing and their goal was to diminish or destroy the Monarchy.
Fifi LaRue said…
It is just amazing that Kween Twat is going to risk being in public in the UK again. The genteel Brits will boo her again. She must have one tough skin. Think snake or lizard. Or maybe she'll become completely enraged, and show all just who she really is.

Kween Twat is not giving THE keynote address, just like Twit did not address the UN. It's all smoke and mirrors, i.e. complete and total lies. Business as usual.
SwampWoman said…
Blogger abbyh said...
There is this part of me which has been wondering how Netflix/it would be handled if they were booed again.


Me, too. I'll make the popcorn while we watch how that plays out.
Fifi LaRue said…
I just looked at One Young World, and the speakers and partners for the 2022 summit. The Farkles are not listed at all. First of all, they do absolutely nothing, and contribute nothing $$ to anyone or anything. Lies as usual. So we can assume they're going to crash the summit, and make it about themselves, and get some Netflix footage.
Hikari said…
I think that the people that gravitated here did so because they had a person in their life that had mental illness problems and * set off all the same alarms. In some cases, it really IS a matter of life and death for a child to correctly read a mentally unstable individual in the home.

I was initially drawn here after the 'Birth of Archie' and that whole bizarre tableau--Nutty's essay on "Who Wears a White Dress After Giving Birth?" post was my first one here. I first started following Harry Markle, and her 'Harkle Debacle' is what got my interest percolating.

I had watched the engagement photo call/interview and felt something a wee bit off about Harry's new bride-to-be. She traipsed out in her dirty strappy beige stilettos for the engagement photo call, dressed inappropriately for the English end-of-November weather in her short white trenchcoat, surely a spring piece, with her sleeveless emerald green shift dress hanging out of the bottom. With her Pocahontas-like tresses blowing in the breeze, she projected the air of a waifish refugee from the New World, the Little Match Girl who'd arrived in London with apparently the clothes on her back straight from California, having lost all her luggage . . .only, she'd come to London from Toronto where the weather surely wasn't conducive for a light spring coat at the end of November?

Waifish little * morphed into quite a different beast when the couple sat down moments later for their broadcast interview. I didn't watch this piece until quite a bit later, after I heard rumors of something 'off' about the whole exercise. Indeed. Harry seemed happy, if a bit vague . . his new fiancee, so charmingly bohemian and hippy-dippy as she'd given her ingenue smiles and waves on his arm in the sunken gardens was suddenly very . . .Intense is the only word I can use. Intense and spiky. Also vague as to salient questions like "When/where did you meet?" and "Who introduced you?" The way she stared at him and clutched him with both hands was weird. The forced coquettish faces and draping herself on his lap even worse. It was odd the way Haz kept looking at her before speaking as if to double-check his answers. In all, an uncomfortable vibe of a couple that seemed like they didn't know each other very well. They could've been two actors who'd just met minutes before doing a scene where they have to sit down and give 'an engagement interview'.

Hikari said…
Still, it was very early days. Nervousness on both their parts was natural and I was inclined to give them a break for the awkwardness, even though I might have expected more polish from the pair as both were supposedly seasoned at meeting the press/cameras in general. But an engagement was an intensely personal thing, more so than talking about a charity or an acting job, and as a new immigrant to London, * was handling a lot of newness. Entering the RF is overwhelming, even for people used to the public eye in other capacities . . so I told myself. If Harry was happy, that was the main thing, right?

Got up at 4AM to watch the Wedding Spectacle and my unease about the bride deepened. Never mind the circus with her dad, and the weird cosplay of Maria from the Sound of Music and the extremely virginal attire for a 36-year-old on her second? marriage . . . the vacant automaton stare and plastered on Mona Lisa leer made me wonder--"Is she ON something?" Nobody is that preternaturally calm at a globally televised wedding at which one is the star without chemical assistance or stone-cold pathology. She didn't seem human; she seemed like a Replicant, and her facial expressions were at times not appropriate to the occasion.

The Fly had her number from the off.

I've stuck with the Harkle insanity since because I kept waiting and waiting and waiting for this Empress with No Clothes charade to be brought to a halt. She has certainly played her 'Black' card for all it's worth. Now that the Montesh*tshow Mountebanks allegedly have two very young children in their care, I am having those life-and-death concerns about the blatant mental health issues exhibited by both parents. Until the 'kids' entered the scene, their tone-deaf screwups, etiquette fails, boneheaded PR and regular tantrums where an entertaining side-show that only affected themselves. But also with the debut of Moonbump Mountbatten-Windsor is, I think we can agree, when things took a more sinister and mystifying turn. The facade is crumbling amid all the secrets and lies they've had to juggle, not to mention all the lawsuits.

Safe to say they are both crazier than two sh*thouse rats at this point but the exact nature of their mental illnesses elude me. They obviously both partake in illicit substances and drink like fish but beyond that I'd hate to be the clinician attempting to label whatever it is we are seeing. I dismissed folie a deux at first but now I'm not so sure. Mole seems as all in as Maggot is, and since he's the inside traitor, he can inflict more damage. His wife is and always has been the outlier, by her own choice. Even her lobs of "racism by meanie white Family/country" doesn't hurt as much as what Harry is now actively engaged in. He would have been executed for treason by now in a different era. I wonder if he is so stupid he doesn't realize this.
SwampWoman said…
The 6's problem is that all of the progressive places where they want to live in the US are imploding into violent crime, drug abuse, homelessness, and unemployment due to the policies that they themselves pretend to support. They can't afford to live with the truly rich that are insulated from these problems. The border with Mexico is turning into a lawless place with cartel narco-terrorists waging open warfare on both sides of the border. His family's estates might be looking pretty good to them. Canada might look good to them, too.
SwampWoman said…
At their ages, shouldn't they be trying to help middle-aged people displaced from the economy by ill-advised government policies?
Este said…
Amber Heard spoke at One Young World in 2018. It figures this is the organization hosting Harry and his wife.
Sandie said…
I also took a deep dive into the program for this year's One World Summit.

It seems she is one of the people giving a speech at the opening ceremony, but it is 5 September and they are supposed to be at the summit 6 September? Very confusing!

The last time she had anything to do with this organization was when she appeared at the opening day for the summit in London and made the grand entrance down the steps and was then seated at the back of stage with lots of other people. She did not speak but was clutching a piece of paper. Her and the hapless husband also made an appearance at some round table discussion (they gave a speech for the media but there was no discussion from them) that was held at Windsor Castle.

Of note is that on the opening day the auditorium is packed as all the delegates are there, so she would not be speaking to an almost empty venue like the hapless one at the UN.

There are a number of credible people who attend the summit and give the aspiring leader youngsters the opportunity to be inspired and ask questions. (The summit must also be a great networking opportunity for young go-getters.) And then you get TBW and Amber Heard (plus a few other questionable celebrities) making an appearance and you ask 'Why?'

The Queen returns from Balmoral for the change-over of prime ministers round about this time (a main event as it might be her last prime minister and it might be a woman) but she will be at Windsor and the dastardly duo will be in Manchester and then jet off to Europe (Germany?) and then to London and then jet back to America.
Sandie said…
Round about the same time as the dastardly duo are in London: Louis' first day of school; George and Charlotte start at new school.
One young world announced the * participation about 12 hours ago on Twitter. It’s definitely there.
Sandie said…
According to Scobie:

5 September, Manchester (One World Summit)

6 September, Dusseldorf (Invictus Games)

8 September, London (Well Child Awards)

So, that leaves 7 September for mischief!
Sandie said…
A palate cleanser (royal kids) ... scroll down for the last captioned photo!

https://willandkate.tumblr.com/post/692676323657875456/the-cambridge-siblings-and-phillips-cousins
Faltering Sky said…
New on Youtube this morning:

SHE WAS NEVER PREGNANT! DrMotha Laid Meg Cards On Table As Word Escapes Her Lips In Consultancy Call

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyUvLE-U9hw
Maneki Neko said…
Just appeared in the DM:

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle 'don't plan to see William and Kate' when they fly back to Britain for Manchester charity summit
They'll be in Manchester and London in September for 'charity work'. So the feud is still going on.
Sandie said…
Kate Robertson, the founder of One Young World, sent out a tweet deemed critical of the duo (basically she said that grievances should be dealt with in private and that publicly hurting the Queen, whom she admires hugely, is unacceptable). She is being hammered by the SS, led by Scobie. Ugliness follows those two round like a bad stench. Kate had to send out an apology, in which she said basically that she has no right to criticize them.

If anyone can grab the actual tweets and post them here that would be great.
Maneki Neko said…
@Observant One

Perhaps * evokes an intuitive danger signal and that explains why many of us are compelled to try to understand her.

Sorry for the late reply, I 'm catching up with the posts. You make a good point here. I didn't like * when I first saw her at the Invictus games in her ripped jeans and 'husband' shirt. I'm afraid nothing I saw and read afterwards made me alter my feelings. Perhaps I felt she was a wrong'un. I don't think I would have trusted her in real life but it's hard to say.
Maneki Neko said…
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Maneki Neko said…
I am reading Tom Bower's book and I think after a few series the Suits costume designer, Jolie Andreatta, dressed * in Dior, Prada etc (what, for a paralegal?). "Meghan credited Andreatta with influencing her understanding of fashion, especially the power of white shirts, Tom Ford pencil skirts and the importance of 'The Fit'. (my emphasis) To her disappointment, Andreatta said in an interview that Meghan was not her favourite actress to dress".

The fit? You could have fooled me!
Fifi LaRue said…
It's really hard to believe that Kate would publicly stand up for the Harkles.
xxxxx said…
So H/M are going to England for some phony charity link ups. The Queen should make every effort to politely dodge the Duo. The only reason they want to see her is for Netflix footage and to have some Royal Fairy Dust get sprinkled on them. They are always desperate to maintain their Royal connections. The Queen must shun them, same as 95% of other RF have been doing. The example is last time they blighted the UK, for the Platinum Jubilee. And made asses of themselves

Netflix footage (of course) would not be of the actual meetup for tea with The Queen. But would be the exteriors as they come to see her, and as they leave. Footage of Balmoral or Windsor etc.
xxxxx said…
Current DM headline at the top of the DM's UK page>>>
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle 'have NO plans to see William and Kate' for a reconciliatory meeting when they fly back to Britain for charity summit but 'may still visit the Queen', 96

I really resent how they try to exploit the Queen who is 96. They tire her out. They exhaust her. They are energy vampires. They need to leave Queen alone and do whatever they do to fill their days. This UK visit by the Dastardlies, will they get their Royal Protection Service coverage? Highly doubtful. This is still tied up in the UK courts.

The phrase "Old Blighty", H&M are one of the UK's blights.
@Fifi - I had to read the bit about the `apology' twice to grasp what was being said - the `Kate' reference was to Kate Robertson, of One Young World, not the Duchess of Cambridge.

FWIW, I believe we all have the right to voice legitimate criticism of anyone in public life.
O/T - If anyone's interested, `Blighty' comes from the days of the Raj, it's derived from Urdu, a reference to foreigners & foreign places, from an Indian point of view.

Sandie said…
@Marnie
Thanks!

Kate Robertson of One Young World posted a tweet critical of TBW in a very polite way. What she objected to was the public attacks on Oprah, and what she regarded as attacks on the Queen. The SS and Scobie then attacked Kate Robertson, who then apologized.

@Marnie posted the link to the tweets.
I am sorry that people got confused, but I clearly did say:

'Kate Robertson, the founder of One Young World, sent out a tweet deemed critical of the duo ...'

and I do not understand how that could be read as Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge!

Anyway, controversy follow the duo everywhere. I just get the feeling that this desperate attempt to grab a platform to get attention, in the UK, is going to backfire horribly.

How are they funding this trip? One Young World is not paying/funding them in any way, so they are either digging deep into their pockets or IG and WC are paying. Are they going to be provided with security paid for by British taxpayers? Gosh, the duo must miss the days when she had a huge budget to spend on clothes, was gifted jewellery, had full-on free security and escorts, cheap accommodation, large staff also funded by taxpayers ...!
Sandie said…
@WBBM
Thanks for the explanation of the word Blighty ... the use of it takes on all sorts of depths now that I know what it means.
SwampWoman said…
ROFL re the headline about the 6s having no plans to meet the future King and Queen for 'reconciliation'. Maybe the headline should have read that the future King and Queen have no desire to completely disrupt their schedules to provide Netflix with drama which would be used to portray them in the most negative light.
abbyh said…

SwampWoman

That headline (yet again) also makes it sound like they have all the power in the relationship and Cambs have none about what happens with them in relation to the 6's. The phrase cutting off your nose to spite your face comes to mind about the long term ramifications of decisions made now.

I suspect that TQ has a slightly more open schedule (in that there technically has "open space") but she already has big events around that time. The Palace will be very into protecting her in that they won't want her to overtax herself - knowing that her health may vary on a day to day basis (meaning not able to plan until maybe even in the middle of that day).

Popcorn? sounds good. Can I make a chocolate cake? I'm not into a lot of frosting but I do have a good recipe.
Este said…
So what's The Firm going to do to prevent them from using the upcoming Netflix hustling gigs to get the money shot with grandma? These two are as predictable as they are nauseating. Grandma didn't wish Meghan happy birthday so I'm not too worried about the possibility of anyone other than Harry being able to see her again. I think grandma is done with Meghan, non?

I don't even know how Harry can let us know he's vigorously trying to dig up the most vile accusations from the past and show his face in the UK but that's the level of delusion we're dealing with here and a radioactively toxic level of entitlement fueling it all. You know Netflix will have paid fans at these events to prevent another Jubilee/UN PR disaster here. That's a given and at this point, Netflix has blood on their hands too by giving these two a platform after all the lies they told and trouble they've caused their families.
DesignDoctor said…
@SwampWoman
Brilliantly stated.
After reading Tom Bower’s book why would anyone believe any statement put out by the 6’s
who spin everything to their “advantage?”
I’m guessing the despicable duo must be rather short on content which is why a trip to Blighty comes in handy yet again?! 🙄

Will anyone turn up or willingly be there unless they’re paid?🫤

I don’t think The Queen will entertain Mole’s presence, let alone Maggot’s. Just PR fluff coming at us to keep them in them in the headlines. 🥹🙄

@WBBM, many thanks for the background history on the name…Blighty. 😃
Fifi LaRue said…
@WBBM: Thanks for the explanation.

The Queen will not see the Sukkits. Why? When the Sukkits hauled out that kid in South Africa that no one in the Royal Family had laid eyes on, they are not going to fall for a visit/photo with "Lillibet," the supposed second child.

Just a thought...Hairy is angry because his allowance has long been cut off by Charles. If the money was pouring in, the Sukkits would be a whole lot nicer to Charles.
SwampWoman said…
abbyh said: Popcorn? sounds good. Can I make a chocolate cake? I'm not into a lot of frosting but I do have a good recipe.

It sounds fantastic! I love chocolate cake and am not a huge fan of frosting (too sweet) unless it is on a homemade cake without much sugar. I fear that I am suffering from oppositional defiance disorder because my doc said I needed to lose weight and my blood pressure was too high. Now I want chocolate cake for brunch! (I attribute both weight gain and high blood pressure to taking care of lots of grandchildren this summer and serving up homemade ice cream and other kid-friendly yet high-carb treats.) Now, nobody FORCED me to eat high carb but, as a big believer in quality control, I had to test it. That's my story, anyway.

Bring on the Harkles! I'll be prepared with high carbs!

Este said…
@RaspberryRuffle...let's hope you're right but these 2 are desperate, which makes them dangerous. My hope is the propensity of the boomerang effect inevitably intertwined with the act of mudslinging. And these two are radioactive mudslingers.
Etse, HM didn’t wish Bea a Happy birthday either. I think the account is only focusing on the heirs for birthday wishes.
Este said…
It's been nearly a year to the day that Omid announced Meghan and Harry were officially entering their "thrive" period. Well, we see how well that's worked out.
https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-prince-harry-thrive-chapter-new-era-of-visibility/

Barkjack says that September is the biggest PR month and so we should look a lot more visibility from these two. What we've seen so far is miles away from "thrive" you know? A couple of speeches before charities followed by a lackluster Netflix reality tv show? What stunts do we think they are going to pull now that they are desperate and are entering the last chance saloon

@Ilya, if you were thinking like a Sussex, you'd realize it doesn't matter who the Queen doesn't acknowledge on their birthday so long as they aren't Meghan or Harry. It's very bad news for them that she didn't give Meghan any Instagram love. Nor, according to Lady C did the Queen choose to meet Meghan at the Jubilee visit. So, no, this is deadly serious to them with a multi-bazillion Monopoly dollar brand on the imaginary line here. You think Meghan isn't caring she got Markled by the Queen? You know it's gotta burn her that Lauren Sanchez hustled those buns to bag Bezos and she had to settle for the dimwitted 6th in line to the throne. I guess Meghan just didn't hustle those buns good enough for Bezos or Musk.
Este: ok. You have thought about it way more than I have.
Henrietta said…

Raspberry Ruffle said...
I’m guessing the despicable duo must be rather short on content which is why a trip to Blighty comes in handy yet again?!

SecondhandCoke on Reddit agrees with you:

I heard that every rumored Netflix project has either officially gotten the axe (like Pearl), is doing poorly in marketing previews and due for a cancellation announcement soon (The Heart of Invictus), or doesn't exist yet. This latest WellChild, European tour is yet another attempt for Netflix to get usable footage that actually generates interest. They keep throwing good money after bad. I was told, however, that if this last Euro-tour fails, Netflix will take legal steps to terminate the deal. I highly doubt that the Euro tour will be successful and the only thing that WOULD be successful (a parodying trash reality show), they both refuse to do.

Anyway, if I had money to bet, I'd go all in on Harry and Meghan and Netflix going their separate ways by the end of this year. I expect an announcement by then... or certainly by next March.


I actually can't wait for this to happen! I've never felt this way about a celebrity before. I just really want to see MM and Hairball go down in flames. In the first War of the Waleses, I was on Diana's side. Now I'm pro-ERII all the way.

Magatha Mistie said…

@Este- exactly


Bundt

Desperate meh
hustled those buns
Ended up with
wazzock the dunce
Despite her hustle
She only managed
to rustle
Not a Bezos
but a boneheaded Bozo…

KnitWit said…
I "hear you" Swampwoman, as the kids say. I am also trying to lose weight but crave sweets and other yummy things. I don't have children/grandchildren, but would love some home made ice cream!

Who is not visiting whom is more tit for tat, IMO. The Cambridge's aren't visiting the Suckatitalls during their state visit to the US. Well, M&H cooked up a trip to England so they can say that they aren't visiting the Cambridge's either. Na na na....

The Manchester sports fans seem a rowdy bunch on the TV. Hope they show up in force to boo you know who on camera. Is she ready for her closeup egg toss? THAT would be a great video for Netflix.

I think Netflix's best option is to tie up the contracts with the losers then let the Crown writers add details of this debacle to their series. It will get better ratings than woke blather spouted by the duo.
Yes, I too wish the Two Cacafuegos would self-combust, metaphorically of course.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/queen-elizabeth-plans-cannot-moved-214843353.html

This is the Daily Beast's take on the September visit - sounds fairly reasonable to me.
Sandie said…
@Henrietta
Thanks for that tea from secondhandcoke.

Tarot readers (those who have not got bored with the trashy duo and moved on) are predicting a tower moment within a few months (and divorce within a few years).

Tower: The Tower is commonly interpreted as meaning danger, crisis, destruction, and liberation. It is associated with sudden unforseen change ... literally a tower being destroyed by a huge bolt of lightning. (Notes: A tower event is out of your control. It is interpreted as liberation because it forces change on you that can be good for you - illusions destroyed, a 'bad' spouse suddenly leaves, or something like that.)

Tarot readers get it wrong so often, but it will be interesting to see what happens in the next few months!
Este said…
Meghan can dream big. Gotta give her that. She just knew she was gonna be an A+ lister in Hollywood before that all fell apart. Then she knew she was modernize the monarchy before running out of the country to leave Harry to face his family alone. Then she was gonna run the Shadow Kingdom from Montecito but nobody cares and no celebs come to visit. Then they were gonna enter the American royalty of Mogulship via Netflix and Spotify deals but 2 years in, no real content delivered, we can see those dreams disintegrate before our eyes. UN speech anyone? Now, she's entering the last chance saloon of a new and exciting failed ambition in politics. After that what is left?

What's left but to blame Sunshine Sachs for their stunning failures? To go from having bonafide Diana Magic to this? You know it's gotta rip Harry to his very core that they failed and he was so deluded to believe he could outplay his family, who have been dealing with vicious backstabbing intrigue for centuries?
Sandie said…
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/aug/17/people-think-we-are-scumbags-but-celebrities-are-ringing-us-the-changing-world-of-the-paparazzi

He hates them; she calls them every single time (although the article does not name her). She still gets a thrill from being 'papped'. The only time she has avoided looking directly at the camera and smiling was in that brief time before she got the ring on her finger. Do you think he has worked it out yet, or will he wilfully remain ignorant?
Fifi LaRue said…
Just read in the NYPost that Hairy's book will make the RF nervous.

I think the anecdote would be to publish, weekly, the naked photos of Hairy in Las Vegas, and the Nazi costume.
The same with Mrs. Sukkit. Lots of embarrassing, and scary photos of her.
Rebecca said…
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Girl with a Hat said…
did anyone watch the HBO special on Diana called "The Princess"?
Rebecca said…
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Girl with a Hat said…
it turns out that William will be addressing the UN General Assembly about the Earth Shot Prize the day that the 6s will be arriving in Manchester for their Netflix tour. Of course, they will have to try to steal the spotlight.
Sandie said…
https://heatworld.com/celebrity/news/meghan-markle-prince-harry-vow-renewal/

I 'saw' this in a tarot reading months ago ... she is pushing for it; he will go along with it. (It might not actually happen, but she definitely has been talking about it ... the secret wedding vows renewal, with the vows she wrote, especially for the tabloids and for publicity.) There is something distastefully toxic about love and marriage that is the direct cause of bitter divisiveness between and estrangement from beloved family and friends, country,and a worthwhile life of service and privileged position of tradition.

I do hold him more accountable for all of this because he was raised to know better. If he did not want to be a working royal, he could have stepped down with dignity and without any estrangement or bitterness.

@Rebecca
The article, even though it draws on a DM source, is worth a read. It hits the nail on the head: TBW does not accept failure and holds onto petty grudges (the perceived slight is all in her head and stems from grandiosity and delusion) forever. Plus, I think she is seriously deranged!


Hikari said…
@Sandie,

TBW does not accept failure and holds onto petty grudges (the perceived slight is all in her head and stems from grandiosity and delusion) forever. Plus, I think she is seriously deranged!

If TBW can't get fuel through adulation, she will run on rage. That's her fuel, too. Those of us with moral consciences ask ourselves, "How can this toxic duo of twats sleep at night, after all they've done?" A normal person would have been eaten up with guilt and self-recrimination. Not these two. If there's any 'regret' on either of their parts, it's only in not having received all the goodies they wanted. That's not the same as feeling remorse over their actions. They will never feel the guilt, shame and self-loathing that is their due. They will never repent and try to make amends. Because nothing is their fault; all the failures are the fault of others for not capitulating to their awesomeness and doing exactly as they were told. Any ridicule they receive is also not due to their own personal behavior or qualities--it's solely because everyone is racist, stupid, mean, or a combination of all three.

In a pre-tabloid age, the Royal family would have kept their village idiot, if not locked up exactly, kept well away from the public eye. He would've been given his own household on a remote Scottish isle where, it would have been said, he was apprenticing as a gamekeeper or some such. MM would have prowled the world and attached herself to another eejit with money.

* and to a lesser extent Hazmat's self-esteem depends on them never accepting any responsibility/blame for their actions. Blaming the big old nasty world for nothing going according to their plan is how they protect their egos. If a Narc is somehow forced to confront the magnitude of her failure, something called the Narc Collapse happens.

I'm looking forward to the boos in Manchester. If Netflix and Spotify both announce they are severing contracts with the Harkles the collapse of their faux Woke Court in Montecito will happen all the sooner.

The Montesh*tters are a dysfunctional collective of crazy that is stranger than fiction. A novelist could not have set about to write a picaresque adventure of Twit and Twat such as we have experienced over these last 5 years. If it had been attempted, the editors would have said it was too implausible even for absurdist fiction.
Theetome said…
Apparently Harry is in Africa today.
Oh dear, Channel 5 TV has a programme, on Sunday IIRC, about Diana and how she was assassinated.

Will his steal H's thunder or add more fuel?
snarkyatherbest said…
saw angela levin on twitter suggesting the harkles we’re gonna renew their wedding vows. oh i hope they do:

will she have a tiara commissioned and will it have emerald
will then”kids” be ring bearer and flower girl
who will walk her down the aisle Sunshine Sachs?
who will attend?
will it be in December when William is in Boston?
Will Welbly officiate?
will oprah be there? will it be at tyler perry’s house.
will the mrs make an olive oil cake for the wedding cake
which flower girl will the mrs terrorize this time?
will the fly show up for a repeat performance?

i’m so down for this. they are missing the opportunity. real royals of Montecito. put it on Mtv or Bravo and go all trashy. they would be a huge hit!
Maneki Neko said…
I never look at the Express but saw this. To be taken with a good lunch is salt, I'd imagine.

MEGHAN Markle and Prince Harry are planning to renew their vows in the US during a vacation that will be a "second honeymoon" for the couple, it has been claimed.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are reportedly keen to renew their vows before the end of the summer. A source told Heat magazine: "They’re looking at various venues and figuring out the type of ceremony they want, as well as how many guests to invite.

"The grand plan is to turn it into a big family vacation that will also serve as a second honeymoon."

Royal author Angela Levin said that Netflix "will love" the plans.

She tweeted: "I am sure Netflix will love it but I wonder how many family members will be invited."


I don't believe it will happen but you never know, if it's grist to Netflix's mill, then they'll go through with it.
Sandie said…
It seems that the hapless one is in Mozambique ...

https://mobile.twitter.com/emorier/status/1559975681240535041/photo/1
Sandie said…
Some tea I found on Reddit:

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So I have mentioned that I work in politics in Washington. I was at an event with a female Republican Senator who received a call from Meghan Markle on her personal cell phone to advocate for paid family leave. She told us what happened:

The Senator was annoyed because Sen. Gillibrand (D-NY) had given Meghan Markle several personal cell phone numbers of women Republican senators without their permission or foreknowledge. (This has been reported in the press, I’m pretty sure). The Republican Senator was surprised when Meghan Markle called and introduced herself as the Duchess of Sussex but she agreed to talk to her. They had to set up a separate time. The appointed time arrived and Meghan Markle was 20 minutes late to the call. Mind you, US senators are scheduled in 15-minute increments so this essentially meant she had missed her window. The Senator’s staff reached out to Meghan’s “people” to ask for Meghan Markle’s number and she refused to give the Senator her number. 😂😂. She would only agree to call the Senator later.

This ticked the Senator off (and other senators had similar experiences) to the point that she (jokingly?) said that anything Meghan Markle supports, she’s automatically against. Meghan Markle’s arrogance takes me breath away. It’s okay for her to track down the personal cell phone numbers of sitting US government officials but she is too important to share her own number?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/wr0soh/good_gossip/
snarkyatherbest said…
Sandie to be fair the Duchass has a burner phone and probably ran out of money to pay for the next month of calls 😉
SwampWoman said…
Maneki Neko quoted the Express:
MEGHAN Markle and Prince Harry are planning to renew their vows in the US during a vacation that will be a "second honeymoon" for the couple, it has been claimed.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are reportedly keen to renew their vows before the end of the summer. A source told Heat magazine: "They’re looking at various venues and figuring out the type of ceremony they want, as well as how many guests to invite.

"The grand plan is to turn it into a big family vacation that will also serve as a second honeymoon."


Because we all aspire to take our family on our honeymoon? (Wait, what?) And of course, all of us have multimillion dollar (or pound) weddings and feel the need to renew them every four years.

I have noticed that people that have to constantly engage in PDAs and repeated renewing of vows (didn't they already do that?) to convince The Public of their great love for each other probably don't even like each other much. Otherwise, why try so hard to convince us? And why would you think that we even care about your stupid renewing of vows, your lives, your vacations or anything else about you? You know who we care about? Our families. We do know who you don't care about. Your families. That would be great if your respective in-laws were all there for this heartfelt renewal of vows and celebration of your love or each other and family. Oh my goodness, my laughter probably counts as cardio exercise.

I hate to inform you of this, 6s, but this ranks pretty high on the pathetic scale. "Hey, it has been a minute since we exchanged vows, so we need to renew them so that we can keep our names and images active on social media as we try to convince strangers of our greatness and what losers they are!" If y'all are so in love, shut up and act like it and support each other. Go live your best lives without going through publicists about every damn thing.
SwampWoman said…
@Sandie, sounds like a good place for him. Did he run away from home? Is his face on "Have You Seen Me!" posters?
Rebecca said…
I’m not sure why William needs to address the UN about the Earth Shot Prize but I hope he speaks to a much bigger crowd than his black sheep brother did (wouldn’t be hard!) Would Harry have decided to attend the One World event in Manchester after learning that W would be in NYC that day?

Everything would seem to be in limbo until Harry’s book comes out. My fervent wish for the aftermath is for the Queen and Parliament to finally act and relieve him of the onerous burden of being a member of the RF. A girl can dream.
snarkyatherbest said…
swampwoman. public renewal of vows or at least talking about them before it happens. it’s a Real Housewives thing. She’s gunning for the big bucks. BravoTv 9pm on a thursday night. 😉
DesignDoctor said…
@Snarky
Great idea.
Didn’t Kim Kardashian televise her wedding to Chris Humphries—a marriage which lasted about two minutes?
Girl with a Hat said…
are we still sure that Hairy is the Queen's favourite grandson?

https://twitter.com/CambridgeCrown/status/1559482594302894080

is that love or admiration? the way She is looking at William?
Girl with a Hat said…
@Swamp Woman,

My theory has always been that the bigger the wedding ring, the shorter the marriage.

Same thing for people who are always declaring their undying love. It turns out that it can die after all.
Hikari said…
The Harkles have been married only a little over four years, so it’s far too soon for a vow renewal— Those are usually done on significant occasions like a 10th or a 25th anniversary and these two clowns can’t even make it to number five. There’s so loved up that they gushed all over each other wishing each other a happy 4th anniversary A few months ago… Oh yeah that’s right, they didn’t. Absolute crickets that day. Also absolute crickets for Mother’ and Father’s Day this year. How many copies of The Bench can one bloke use?

Interestingly, the Suxxits are proposing a repeat wedding at the precise time I predicted the divorce. In May 2018 I said 3 to 5 years tops. I figured she’d get bored, miss California, tire of the English weather and “culture” and warm G&Ts and bolt. She was a square peg in a round hole from the beginning, But I couldn’t have predicted that it would get so ugly. I also never really expected that they would have “children”. I guess one out of two ain’t bad.
Fifi LaRue said…
All your comments are so entertaining! I needed a good laugh after an upsetting business miscommunication.

Sukkits won't steal any thunder from Prince William's speech. None.
I'm gleefully anticipating the loud booing.

Renewing vows so soon? That's spelled d-e-s-p-e-r-a-t-i-o-n for attention.

It is totally believable that Mrs. Sukkits made all the senators wait 20 minutes. She was playing a game, and lost big time.
Mrs. Sukkitt considers herself more important than The Queen, and any and all U.S. Senators.
She will be the butt of anecdotal jokes at Washington cocktail parties, if her name comes up.
I've got my hands on my copy of Revenge at last!

Something on p238 caught my attention, starting at `In that maelstrom...' something I don't think we've considered, in short:

`..Harry inflamed the emotions by repeatedly telling his wife how closely she resembled Diana... the more Harry drew parallels with his mother, the more Meghan became convinced of her importance to the monarchy... she gave the impression that she believed she personified the monarchy's importance'.

Have we underestimated H's culpability?
Sandie said…
https://mobile.twitter.com/wellchild/status/1559110209787789312

Is this their Twitter account, and is this how they keep track of what is being said about them on social media?
Sandie said…
@WBBM

My amateur psychology analysis: she did 'imitate' Diana. However, I do not think she is smart enough to consciously know what effect it would have on him. (She just copies others and I have no doubt that she wanted to be as famous and beloved and gorgeous and photographed as Diana.) She pushed all the buttons to remind him of his mother, or the mother that he subconsciously remembered but did not really know or understand as he was a child when she died and a younger child when the breakdown of the marriage, separation and divorce happened.

The woman we see now is very different from the woman she played when she met him. The latter was fun, kittenish, tactile, not stuffy at all, a philanthropist working with the poor in Africa and India, threatened by the paparazzi, a supermodel, skinny, adored children ... and so on. Plus, the Cambridges had taken on full-time public roles and started a family, so he was feeling increasingly irrelevant and cut off and lonely.

By the time she revealed how deranged she was and that domination and control are key aspects of her character, and that she lies about everything, he was well on his present path and could see no way out. Does he still think it is love? Does he still believe she is like his mother? How stupid can the man be? All his family and friends (perhaps with the exception of Eugenie) saw her for what she really is and warned him, and then were even decent enough to give her a chance when he bulldozed his family into that spectacle wedding.

Diana was unfaithful in her marriage before Charles was, so even that was familiar to him, so he was excited rather than put off when she started her affair with him while she was still living with Cory.

She has been very clever in making sure he is estranged from family, friends, country, life, destiny.

In my opinion, if his family had got their way, the marriage might never have happened. They wanted to arrange acting work for her in the UK and for him to take his time before jumping into marriage. She might very well have simply used him for the fame and opening of doors and found some other sucker to marry and exploit to the hilt.
SwampWoman said…
Thanks for the info on Real Housewives, @snarky. I don't follow the franchise and have never seen a program. From the publicity pictures I've run across, there doesn't appear to be anything real about them. It would therefore appear to be a perfect venue for her.
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
I've got my hands on my copy of Revenge at last!

Something on p238 caught my attention, starting at `In that maelstrom...' something I don't think we've considered, in short:

`..Harry inflamed the emotions by repeatedly telling his wife how closely she resembled Diana... the more Harry drew parallels with his mother, the more Meghan became convinced of her importance to the monarchy... she gave the impression that she believed she personified the monarchy's importance'.

Have we underestimated H's culpability?


Maybe Tom Bower underestimated how gullible Harry was when his senses were assaulted by a woman cosplaying his mummy down to her choices in perfume? He is definitely culpable for attacking his family. I suppose it is possible that he is such an idiot that he still hasn't realized that he's been played. From the unhappy demeanor he has shown when with her, I think he just can't admit (or perhaps doesn't want to admit) that his family was right and, once again, he has made extremely foolish choices.
SwampWoman said…
Hikari said:
Interestingly, the Suxxits are proposing a repeat wedding at the precise time I predicted the divorce. In May 2018 I said 3 to 5 years tops. I figured she’d get bored, miss California, tire of the English weather and “culture” and warm G&Ts and bolt. She was a square peg in a round hole from the beginning, But I couldn’t have predicted that it would get so ugly. I also never really expected that they would have “children”. I guess one out of two ain’t bad.

ROFL, you certainly couldn't have predicted that she would scarper to the shelter of Canada and then to California all the while under the delusion that her death grip on Harry's coattails would propel her into stardom.
Hikari said…
..Harry inflamed the emotions by repeatedly telling his wife how closely she resembled Diana... the more Harry drew parallels with his mother, the more Meghan became convinced of her importance to the monarchy... she gave the impression that she believed she personified the monarchy's importance'.

Have we underestimated H's culpability?


Wild Boar,

You only just got the book and you're on page 282 already? I'm still languishing in the second chapter. I want to read it badly, but I'm too busy at work to enjoy reading. I go to the loo to get a moment to myself but the book is too bulky to bring into the can with me.

It's so patently ridiculous, all this Diana cosplay. A person less like Diana in any conceivable way it would be hard to imagine, other than the fact they are/were both female. (Some doubt about that in some quarters re. Smeg. I don't give those rumors any credence though it's interesting that Lady C. has delicately addressed the subject but NOT disputed the truth of it. She'd know personally what that's like. *'s proportions are extremely odd. Her spidery double-jointed limbs don't match how thick she is through the middle or her weirdly spatulate mannish hands. Or how she went from a high reedy voice as a child/pubescent kid that morphed into her deeper, nearly transvestite-like tones she's got now. Everyone's voice deepens as they age but the change in the timbre of her voice was extreme in just two or three years. My niece experienced the same thing. She had a sweet high voice until the 8th grade when she started talking in a gruff mannish monosyllabic voice because that was the year she announced that she is trans and now goes by Aaron.)

As for Harry's culpability, I think we've come 'round to him being a co-conspirator in this madness. I do not give him credit for full adult executive functioning though. I think his limited mental capacities, hyperactivity and substance abuse make him highly suggestible and easily influenced by the company he keeps. Therefore his wife can plant seeds in his dim mind and with verbal cues constantly applied actually succeed in creating memories that never happened, or otherwise convince him that these schemes are all his own idea. H needs to feel 'in charge' and as important as his brother, but he's got the mentality of an 8 or 10 year old so he actually can't function without a strong Mommy/Nanny figure telling him what to do. The dynamic here is very much David/Wallis-like.

Which is why, knowing Harry's character and deficiencies as they did, as well as their own history, the RF permitted this marriage.

@Sandie

This morning I noticed that YouTube Vlogger Duchass of Montecito's account has been suspended. Any blogger or writer critical of the Dumbartons gets shut down--suppression of free speech by any standard. Meanwhile, the Sussex Flying Monkey Squad can issue a fatwah against the Cambridge children and nothing happens. I'm disgusted.

I imagine that they egged each other on.
I don't recall anyone mentioning the latest Harry Markle of 10th August - I may be wrong, of course:

https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2022/08/10/defamation-the-markles-send-tw-birthday-greetings-and-the-end-of-mwx-foundation/

It covers a range of topics, including her posing as a Wallis lookalike.
Sandie said…
Renewing of vows? Why? Have the original, whatever they are, been broken? Or were the original, whatever they are, for a limited period only, or subject to conditions? I kind of remember 'death do us part', 'in sickness and health', 'for richer and for poorer' and all that from the show wedding at St George's.

And why is the hapless one in Mozambique? Filming for Netflix? Getting away from TBW? Beautiful beaches in that country and a lack of paparazzi and tabloids ... perfect place for a family holiday.
Svetlana said…
I wouldn’t doubt for a minute they are planning a renewal of the vows. In a desperate attempt to get back all the goodwill they had on their wedding day, well I mean, on the spectacle that follow the real wedding day, that is. Typical over-the-top behaviour for this couple, who renews their vows before they even made it five years? Idiots.
Este said…
If a made for TV wedding, ala Ben-Glow 2.0, is their seconds on the clock, touchdown winning performance, these two clowns are really scraping the bottom here by inviting the most invidious (to them) comparisons between this wedding is brought to you by our proud sponsors... and the real deal they already had where Meghan got to cosplay a Princess before an adoring crowd of royalty and celebrities (cue side eye).

It's all so tacky and tawdry and Diana would be rolling in her grave seeing them trade a real crown for a paper one kids wear at Burger King.
Este said…
From secondhandcoke reddit just now:

Well... someone posted a blind here a day or two ago about a "streaming giant" that was legally crossing their t's and dotting their i's in preparation for quickly ending their contract with Meghan and Harry. That Meghan and Harry had been continually making excuses blaming their mental health for not having delivered on the contract. The poster or a commenter on the thread asked me if I knew it if it was Netflix or Spotify? I didn't know, so I said it applied to both but if I had to guess I would guess the company was Spotify.

Well, I was wrong. I asked the one usually in the know about these things, and the blind is in fact referring to Netflix. Breaking contracts can be tricky. As a further answer to that question, I heard that Netflix has supposedly now compiled enough videos, emails, voicemails, and other acts of unprofessionalism that they now feel legally safe in ending the contract. So we will have to see if they can mutually come to an agreement to end it. That may mean this Eurotour produces enough decent content, or it could mean they buy Harry and Meghan out of what little they've done, it could mean a lawsuit, or it could mean outright cancellation. But their relationship will be ending soon. I'd say we hear about it by next March at the latest.
Karla said…
Harry inflamed the emotions by repeatedly telling his wife how closely she resembled Diana... the more Harry drew parallels with his mother, the more Meghan became convinced of her importance to the monarchy... she gave the impression that she believed she personified the monarchy's importance'.

Have we underestimated H's culpability?
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Let's remember the statement issued by Harry and Meghan (on megxit)

" After many months of reflection and internal discussions, we have chosen to make a transition this year in starting to carve out a progressive new role within this institution,” the Duke and Duchess of Sussex wrote on Instagram. “We intend to step back as ‘senior’ members of the Royal Family and work to become financially independent, while continuing to fully support Her Majesty The Queen. It is with your encouragement, particularly over the last few years, that we feel prepared to make this adjustment.

“We now plan to balance our time between the United Kingdom and North America, continuing to honour our duty to The Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages. This geographic balance will enable us to raise our son with an appreciation for the royal tradition into which he was born, while also providing our family with the space to focus on the next chapter, including the launch of our new charitable entity.u We look forward to sharing the full details of this exciting next step in due course, as we continue to collaborate with Her Majesty The Queen, The Prince of Wales, The Duke of Cambridge and all relevant parties.
Until then, please accept our deepest thanks for your continued support.”
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a) they decided that they would stay part time in the year working with their sponsorships and with the royal family.
B) in starting to carve out a progressive new role within this institution.
my opinion
They never wanted to stop being hardworking senior members of the royal family. In their statement, they said just how they were going to work with the royal family. And they believed that with this public declaration, they would force the queen to agree to their terms.
Harry believed that because he was, at the time, the second most loved royal by the British, he would have broad popular support. The same happened to the Duke of Windsor when he decided to abdicate.
With Harry gone, Prince William (according to recent Yougov polls) is the second most loved one today.

William's inheritance (for being born first)

a) Duchy of Cornwall: full income of the Duchy
b) Highgrove House is a stunning countryside retreat. Of course, it doesn't mean that William would move into Highgrove, but it means that he would technically be the owner of it, having his father as his tenant should he remain to reside there.
c) Other properties that would then be owned and managed by William under the Duchy would be developments in Newquay and Poundbury and most of the land which makes up the Isles of Scilly.
d) Not to mention he would be the holder of several royal gems
In short, William will be one of the richest men in the world and Harry would always be below his brother in financial terms.
think Harry also wants to be the center of attention and resents his secondary role in the Monarchy both as an alternate and heir, of property, money and goods.
...

WBBM
imagine that they egged each other on.

I agree with you
Harry, even without Meghan, was already an aimless compass. Meghan just helped him put his whimsical daydreams out.
Andy Cohen would move heaven and earth to lure Twat to RHOBH. The cast don’t make much for appearing on the show but they rake in big bucks with promotional schemes using their exposure to launch products and services in their name. I think She would not just survive but thrive in that lowbrow environment. I could see her doing it after the divorce.
SwampWoman said…
Este said: If a made for TV wedding, ala Ben-Glow 2.0, is their seconds on the clock, touchdown winning performance, these two clowns are really scraping the bottom here by inviting the most invidious (to them) comparisons between this wedding is brought to you by our proud sponsors... and the real deal they already had where Meghan got to cosplay a Princess before an adoring crowd of royalty and celebrities (cue side eye).


I wondered if anybody else was rolling their eyes at Ben Affleck/Jennifer Lopez having a huge three-day repeat wedding after a July 17 wedding in Vegas. Ah, celebrity true love. Maybe in September they should do another huge wedding celebration in whatever state/venue they haven't celebrated their true love yet. Maybe they should do Burning Man in early September.
Sandie said…
Post in thread 'Meghan Markle unpopular opinions thread pt 9' https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-9.4991454/post-84827652

Was I wrong about there not being paparazzi in Mozambique? Two friends or a filming crew? I doubt that bodyguards would be carrying so much stuff; besides they hire overweight bodyguards.

Supposedly he was seen on a commercial flight to London. Was that because he did not get a direct flight?
Sandie said…
A very interesting article:

* Prince William made a conscious decision to put duty ahead of family after Megxit, his former private secretary claims in a new Channel 4 documentary
* Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton, Prince George's godfather, believes he will always put the best interests of the monarchy before his relationship with his brother
* He said the Duke of Cambridge has a 'strong moral compass' that never wavers

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11123363/Prince-William-decision-duty-ahead-family-Megxit-former-aide-claims.html
abbyh said…

Nice piece that I highly suspect is true about PW.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11123363/Prince-William-decision-duty-ahead-family-Megxit-former-aide-claims.html

If so, then ... those chickens will come home to roost sooner or later.
DM says Twit stayed at a luxury coastal resort in Mozambique while carrying out duties related to his position as president of African Parks. Why would a Brit expat living in the US be the prez of African Parks?
Karla said…
27, july



"In a personal message shared to Prince William and Kate Middleton's official Twitter account on Wednesday, the Duke of Cambridge mourned Anton Mzimba, a head ranger at the Timbavati Nature Reserve.

"I'm deeply saddened to learn of the killing of Anton Mzimba who I spoke to in November," William wrote. "Committed and brave, rangers like Anton are central to the conservation of Africa's fantastic wildlife. Those responsible must swiftly be brought to justice. My thoughts are with his family." He signed the note with a "W" to indicate that the message came directly from him"
involved with a number of organizations promoting the end of illegal wildlife trafficking and helping endangered species in Africa, a place that the royal has strong ties to.

"I first fell in love with Africa when I spent time in Kenya, Botswana and Tanzania as a teenager," he said at a Sept. 2018 reception for the Royal African Society. "I was captivated and have been hankering to get back as often as possible ever since."
https://people.com/royals/prince-william-mourns-park-ranger-murdered-south-africa/

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William's message caused quite a stir and now Harry is in Africa.
Sandie said…
https://youtube.com/shorts/Tv_d_bBfjnw?feature=share

Quick takes: narcissism.
Sandie said…
African Parks is a non-profit conservation organisation that takes on the complete responsibility for the rehabilitation and long-term management of national parks in partnership with governments and local communities. We currently manage 20 national parks and protected areas in 11 countries covering over 17 million hectares in: Angola, Benin, Central African Republic, Chad, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Malawi, Mozambique, the Republic of Congo, Rwanda, Zambia and Zimbabwe.
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Most of the funding comes from America, Germany, Switzerland, UK ...

https://www.africanparks.org/about-us/our-partners#

Note that the organization does not work in South Africa, Botswana, Namibia, Kenya, Tanzania ... Why? Because those countries do a superb job of wildlife management themselves. Just my opinion, but a lot of the wildlife found in Africa is unique and needs to be preserved for humankind (and protected from human encroachment and endangerment). So, the international connection does not surprise me. I have often come across such people in my journeys in Africa (American and European). They may be few but they do not come for selfies and gawking touristy stuff but they put up with the heat and dust and long hours on the road in the middle of nowhere because they see the wildlife of Africa as a wonderful and awesome responsibility for humankind and a privilege to get close to.

The hapless one does not seem to be involved in fundraising for the organization but he did spend a lot of time in the bush working with teams to relocate animals and so on. I don't know what he does as president or what his value is as president.

I have been trying to track timelines with the help of the site ...when he was supposedly in Africa with her, doing whatever it was they were doing, and when he was in African countries like Malawi for weeks. It might take some time, but he joined African Parks not long before he met her and at the time he met her up to the official engagement he spent a lot of time in Africa (mostly Malawi) working with African Parks.

African Parks do not work in Botswana. Did he take her to Botswana? Or did he take her to Malawi where he was working with African Parks?
KnitWit said…
Little Miss Hollywood wasn't allowed to merch her royal wedding. I am sure she was imagining multimillion dollar magazine bidding wars and truckloads if expensive gifts. Perhaps even a suitcase of cash or two from shady works tyrants. The royal debacle was shockingly absurd for a thirty something feminist divorcée IMO. How will she top that ( HA).

If people want to renew their vows, renew away! Staging a Kardasian level nausea inducing televised spectacle is something else altogether.

I wonder if Wally Simpson's spirit is haunting the froggy cottage. People compare M with Ms. Simpson. Ms. Simpson was classier, more stylish and wore much better jewelry. Her husband seemed to adore her too. I realize their relationship was dysfunctional also. Imagine marrying Coco Chanel's former lover. How intimidating. I like that eras fashions and jewelry. Alas, I don't have the angular androgynous figure to carry them off.

Ms. Simpson was a fashion icon. They were a stylish couple. M&H don't compare and can't compete.

The Bower book is getting more royal press than Charles suitcase of cash. I wonder if the royal press was encouraged to hold back with that story until the Hollywood former almost royals has some distracting dirt to dish. Their use as a diversion is one if the few benefits they provide the royal family.

Could H be meeting one if his guy pals in Africa? Or perhaps just blowing off some steam? He looks happier without the moonbump and chain.

I dream of the queen sipping tea, corgis lounging at her feet, when a royal aide shows her photos catching H with his fancy man/girl. The press secretary says, " shall I have them bury this one?" ? The queen replies,heavens no. Release it! Use the American press if you must. Perhaps the actress will divorce him. Release the ones from the locker room at the polo club too.

Wishful thinking on my part.
Este said…
@SwampWoman...Harry is traveling in the steps of the trashiest most desperate to stay relevant celebrities. Here's what Barkjack posted recently about the three-day marriage extravaganza: Add JLo to this list but Ben is being rewarded handsomely. That misleading arrangement is part of a multi-million dollar PR op.

And guess whose shipping these two PR frauds as real....the (paid?) Mouthpiece from Toronto.

all these weddings have been brought to you by the names you can trust.....
Kourtney and Travis...sponsored by Dolce Gabbana
Ben and Jen....sponsored by Caesar's Palace and Dunkin Donuts
Harry and Meghan....sponsored by Netflix and Travalyst

I'm guessing Meghan has a Little Mermaid themed wedding at Disneyland Orlando. You heard it here first!
Sandie said…
@Karla

Highgrove House is privately owned by Charles, not a royal inheritance or part of Crown properties, thus both sons could view it as their inheritance. However, I think Charles has transferred ownership to the Duchy of Cornwall, so it would be the exclusive inheritance of William.

Does anyone know more details?
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

And why is the hapless one in Mozambique?

Yes, good question. Apparently, according to the DM, he was in southern Africa in his capacity as president of African Parks.

The royal's spokesperson said the Duke was welcoming and co-hosting a group of US officials, conservationists, and philanthropists earlier this week as they toured protected wildlife and nature areas.


Very interesting and commendable, I'm sure. I believe there are no direct flights from LA to Johannesburg, only from NY or Washington so either via the US or London, it's still about 21 hours or more in the air, all for three days. Was the trip essential? (Rhetorical question). And then he can pontificate about flying and saving the planet. He stayed at Vilanculos Beach Lodge, a luxury accommodation. Did he use Travalyst that is supposed to promote sustainable travel and accommodation (as far as I know)? Answers on a postcard.
Sandie said…
He flew from LA to London to Johannesburg to Mozambique.

This is where he stayed:

https://www.vilanculosbeachlodge.com/
Sandie said…
https://www.africanparks.org/the-parks/bazaruto

The African Parks connection.

This is the only marine environment included in the African Parks organization.

Competing with the Cambridges?
Karla said…
@Sandie
Highgrove
Highgrove House near Tetbury in Gloucestershire is The Duke and Duchess of Cornwall’s family home. The Duchy of Cornwall owns Highgrove, and bought the house, garden and nearby farmland (now known as Duchy Home Farm) in 1980.

https://duchyofcornwall.org/high-grove.html/
...

U.S. United States Congressional Delegation Visits Mozambique
...

Led by Senator Coons of the Senate Appropriations Committee, other delegation members include Senator Robert Portman (R-OH), Senate Foreign Relations Committee; Senator Gary Peters (D-MI), Senate Armed Services Committee; Representative David Joyce (R-OH-14), House Appropriations Committee; Representative Chrissy Houlahan (D-PA-06), House Armed Services Committee; and Representative David Price, (D-NC-04), House Appropriations Committee. Also, part of the delegation was Millennium Challenge Corporation (MCC) CEO Alice Albright.

Distributed by APO Group on behalf of U.S. Embassy in Mozambique.
...

Harry and Meghan will travel to the northern English city of Manchester on Sept. 5 for the One Young World summit, a youth leadership event with hundreds of international participants from across the world. Meghan is expected to give the keynote address at the opening ceremony.

They will then head to Duesseldorf, Germany, for an event on Sept. 6 counting down to next year's Invictus Games, the annual sporting event that Harry founded in 2014 for wounded and sick servicemen and women. The couple then return to London for an awards ceremony for the charity WellChild.
...
Curiously

Kate Middleton Will Play Tennis with Roger Federer Next Month
The pair are raising money for Action for Children and the LTA Foundation.
The pair will be hosting a day of tennis in London in September to raise funds and promote awareness for two charities that are very important to the Duchess of Cambridge: Action for Children and the Lawn Tennis Association Foundation, where Kate is a patron.
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/08/kate-middleton-roger-federer-play-tennis-underprivileged-children-charity-action-for-children-lta-foundation


U.S. United States Congressional Delegation Visits Mozambique https://www.zawya.com/en/press-release/africa-press-releases/us-united-states-congressional-delegation-visits-mozambique-f34uhtaj
Sandie said…
The delegation from America seems to be there for official government business, nothing to do with conservation or philanthropy. I don't think the hapless one has anything to do with the delegation. This delegation is about energy security for America. Mozambique has gas and also has an Islamic State problem in the north of the country.

The hapless one is visiting a marine reserve in Mozambique, the only one on the continent that falls under the African Parks organization. There also happens to be a major tourist resort (focusing on water activities) where he is visiting.
Sandie said…
https://clubofmozambique.com/news/u-s-congressional-delegation-visits-mozambique-223190/

No mention of the hapless one in this report, although the delegation did meet with a representative from the African Parks organization, among others.
Karla said…
And about Highgrove
...
"Prince Charles Just Launched a Perfume Inspired by Summer in His Beloved Gardens at Highgrove
Prince Charles has had a passion for gardening since childhood, developing his gardens at Highgrove House for over 40 years."

https://people.com/royals/prince-charles-launches-perfume-inspired-summer-gardens-highgrove/
...
Africa again
Today
Prince William hails US sentencing of poacher Moazu Kromah (who trafficked 35 rhinoceros horns & 100 elephant ivory) to 63 months jail:“a significant victory in a landmark case". William is founder
@united4wildlife
....
Prince William has released a statement following Moazu Kromah being imprisoned in the USA for the “insidious crime” of conspiring to traffic in millions of dollars in rhinoceros horns and elephant ivory.
https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1560357227231416322?s=20&t=3p4B0WMFmkHnVA5MYbeZog
...

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/wildlife-trafficker-uganda-sentenced-63-months-large-scale-trafficking-rhinoceros-horns
xxxxx said…
Someone above commented how good it is to land here after some high pressure business moments. Oh, I see it was FiFi..... This blog is such a great diversion. Such a great chill.
Magatha Mistie said…

Irritable Vowels

A vow renewal
For mule and her fool
Plankster’s moll
may go for third doll
Tho’ I doubt there’s
much fuel in his tool…

DesignDoctor said…
Oh Magatha! Your entertaining brilliance continues. Bravo!
Ralph L said…
Look at the Grip of Doom in the first photo at the DM:

WTF?
Magatha Mistie said…

Quickie 🎤
Apologies: Tammy Wynette
D-I-V-O-R-C-E

I-N-D-E-B-T

M-E-G-X-I-T
will be final one day
H and manky M-E-G
hopefully go away
Started with her golden rain
foreplay P-E-E
Sus-sex THOTS
have landed on
their A double S
E-N-D…


Ralph L said…
Consecutive DM headlines just now:

Boy, 1, has massive 'rapidly enlarging' lesion erupt on his butt and after suffering anthrax infection

Prince Harry revisits Mozambique's Indian Ocean coast where he enjoyed romantic holidays with ex Chelsy Davy during surprise solo three-day...

Death of Nebraska child is linked to brain eating amoeba that kills 97% of people it infects
Magatha Mistie said…

Apologies:William Wordsworth
I Wandered Lonely as a Cloud
(Daffodils)

Golden Staphy’kils

She wandered lowly
through the crowd
Talking to herself
out loud
High as a kite
o’er ‘cito hills
A host of dope
and happy pills
Beneath the fake and
endless pleas
She’s back to her roots
on bended knees…

Maneki Neko said…
@Ralph

The grip of doom: this is nothing, it wasn't even a double clutch where * grips his hand and also his arm with her other hand. The worst was when they were at the UN meeting in NYC. There's something very wrong there. Do scroll down to read the comments and the BLG's analysis.

https://tinyurl.com/2p8hfzvh



Sandie said…
Discussed successful efforts at Bazaruto Archipelago to convert marine debris into building materials with
@AfricanParks
. In the Senate, I’ve secured 10s of millions of dollars to halt ocean pollution—but we can’t solve global problems without help from partners like Mozambique.
-----
A tweet from Senator Chris Coons, but no mention of the hapless prince, who we know was there and is president of African Parks.

No appearance without pay or filming for Netflix/self-promotion?

I just find it odd.

Anyway. I hope the prince enjoyed his short stay in a beautiful place without the controlling deranged wife. Pity the children missed out!
Sandie said…
Found this (wishful thinking rather than an accurate psychic prediction I think):

https://mysteriouslytransparentwitch.tumblr.com/

Hi! Thank you for posting the link to Christian Dion’s blog. I scrolled his readings and there’s an interesting one on Mrs Markle.

He predicted Harry will divorce Meghan 6 months after Keanu Reaves and Alexandra Grant break up (this lady too is a scam like Heard and Markle). He will go back to UK, Mrs ex-6 will stay in USA. Weirdly enough Dion doesn’t say anything about the children.

He added in the same reading that William decided to throw out the Harkles from the Royal Foundation because there was charity shady behaviour from Meghan. That would explain the audit he asked around fall 2018.

Dion said no projects will be delivered from Netflix and she will lose her contract with them

She will be sued twice:

- over dodgy charity practices

- surrounding her lies (Samantha Markle sued her over her lies in the Oprah interview and FF by Scobie Doo)

She will lose both

Dion summarized Meghan as someone who hides behind philanthropy to gain financially.

In another reading on Bower’s book, Dion says it will open Harry’s eyes and will start the last chapter of their relationship with Harry wanting to leave. He is turned off by what she said about Diana and her past behaviour in relationships. He didn’t know all the truth. Now he does.

Meghan will sue Bower and will lose.

Dion also predicted a visit to UK in September/October but only for Harry as he doesn’t want her to come and she doesn’t want to go either. We will see this September if she pulls out or not

As for Will and Kate he predicted another puppy but I don’t know if he meant another dog or another baby.

https://psychicgossip.blogspot.com/
Sandie said…
Richard Palmer
@RoyalReporter
Prince William is to address a summit of heads of state, global business leaders, philanthropists and environmentalists in New York on September 21 to discuss ways of accelerating action on climate change.


Richard Palmer
@RoyalReporter
There had been discussions about him attending The Earthshot Prize Innovation Summit and he finally decided yesterday that he is going. He is expected to spend two or three days in the Big Apple at events encouraging innovation to tackle climate change.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Hikari
Love ‘picaresque’
will use it.

@DesignDoc
Thank you 😊

xxxxx said…
"It’s easy to understand why some courtiers believe Harry and Meghan no longer
care about the destruction they’re causing to the monarchy, with their criticism
likely to grow louder if the Queen were to pass away in the coming years, a
prospect royal aides are now having to countenance"

Grip of doom photos and more good Dan Wooten

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11120349/DAN-WOOTTON-hell-Prince-Charles-William-pander-Harry.html
Este said…
Got this from SaintMeghanMarkle. It comes from someone named "Maggie" on Twitter, I personally think this isn't tea but a really lucky guess as to the upcoming strategy of Mr and Mrs Desperate.

Been hearing rumours on the grapevine.I'll park them here.
1) Wetflix is about to pull the plug
2) Me-Again has hired rent-a-crowd to cheer her in Manchester & pack the venue *(*Why not for H at the U.N.?)
3)There may be a 'staged' security breach in the U.K to bolster court case
Karla said…
Magatha
She wandered lowly
through the crowd
Talking to herself 😂👏👏👏

....
The US delegation visited Bazaruto National Park on 16 August.
The US Embassy makes NO reference to Harry personally.
No one has yet acknowledged his participation, let alone hosting.Given that as yet (and this might change as frantic favours will be asked) - not a single US attending delegate be they Republican or Democrat, have commented on/tweeted/even mentioned Harry - what does this say about supposed political connection/ambitions?
...
But People magazine is running this information, using photos of Diane and Meghan, side by side with Harry.
...
Prince Harry Makes Surprise Visit to Africa to Host U.S. Officials Touring Wildlife Areas
Prince Harry recently spoke about his

"During his visit, Harry, 37, is "welcoming and co-hosting a group of U.S. officials, conservationists and philanthropists as they tour protected wildlife and nature areas," a spokesperson for for the Duke of Sussex tells PEOPLE"
https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-makes-surprise-visit-africa-welcome-us-officials/
Karla said…
"Me-Again has hired rent-a-crowd to cheer her in Manchester & pack the venue."
....

It is possible. And so make it clear to the world that the Jubilee boos never existed
Sandie said…
https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-risking-wrath-of-queen-with-quasi-royal-uk-tour

Apologies, but I had trouble copying the text of this article. Two things I found interesting:

* Have they broken the exit agreement and their own professed claim to support the values of the monarchy? If so, is there anything the palace can do, other than working Royals distancing themselves from the duo?

* They may very well never meet with the Queen again, although they probably do not know it yet, and neither them or their children will ever be photographed with any senior Royals.

Of course we know that this visit is their determination to pursue the half in/half out status they wanted. They always intended to do royal appearances in the UK, and being able to keep whatever patronages they had that were not granted by the Queen is the way they can still do this. They are fighting to get RPO protection as well, and no doubt there will be a legal battles to get some of the Duchy of Cornwall and whatever they may want to grab from the estate the Queen leaves when she dies. I am surprised that they let the HRH go.
Karla said…
@Sandie
As for the Duchy of Cornwall, I will agree with you. I remember when Harry, in the interview with Oprah, said in an unnerved tone that his father had cut off his monthly income.
I think he was referring to the values ​​of this duchy which he believed because it was private,(unlike Sovereign Grant,payment which is paid annually to the monarch by the government, which is intended to meet the costs of the sovereign's official expenditures. This includes the costs of the upkeep of the various royal residences, staffing, travel and state visits, public engagements, and official entertainment) he as a son had every right to continue receiving.
The Duchy of Cornwall, revenues from the estate are passed to HRH The Prince of Wales and Duke of Cornwall, who chooses to use them to fund his public, charitable and private activities and those of his family.
I believe that Harry, being the son of Prince Charles, did not welcome the fact that he could no longer receive his share of this duchy for being the son of the Duke of Cornwall, and with that resentment he turned all his weapons on Prince Charles in the interview with Oprah And The Me You Can’t See:
SwampWoman said…
Karla said: Prince Harry Makes Surprise Visit to Africa to Host U.S. Officials Touring Wildlife Areas
Prince Harry recently spoke about his

"During his visit, Harry, 37, is "welcoming and co-hosting a group of U.S. officials, conservationists and philanthropists as they tour protected wildlife and nature areas," a spokesperson for for the Duke of Sussex tells PEOPLE"
https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-makes-surprise-visit-africa-welcome-us-officials/


Interesting. I had no idea that * owns Africa and the protected wildlife and nature areas. I would expect that the people would wish to speak to the people actually doing the work, not people fishing for $$$ for their putative 'charities'.
abbyh said…
HarryMarkle doesn't like having people cut and paste but links ok.

https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2022/08/19/the-no-pay-no-play-award-ceremony-v-full-expenses-paid-appearances/

Thanks.



Karla said…
Este And Swampwoman
well said!👏
....

Some Excerpts from The Daily Beast article

"Harry and Meghan are apparently positioning themselves as quasi-royals by undertaking charitable engagements in the style of the institution.
Their proposal for being hybrid working royals was comprehensively rejected [at the Sandringham Summit], but it looks like they are just going ahead and doing it anyway.(...)
The problem that Harry and Meghan’s visit presents for the royals was neatly described to The Daily Beast by Duncan Larcombe, a biographer of Harry who formerly toiled as royal editor for Britain’s top-selling tabloid newspaper, the Sun.
To the casual observer, especially overseas and even more especially in America, this will look like Harry and Meghan are back doing royal jobs, especially given that one of the gigs Harry is doing is the WellChild awards for sick children, which he always used to do when he actually was a working royal. It will be incredibly high-profile. They will be all over the media, and you won’t be able to put a cigarette paper between what Harry and Meghan are doing and what Will and Kate are doing. It’s a calculated provocation on their part. They are seriously pushing their luck and risking the wrath of the queen.” (...)
While they can no longer formally represent The Queen, the Sussexes have made clear that everything they do will continue to uphold the values of Her Majesty.”

This is where the palace has real grounds to call out Harry and Meghan for breach of contract. Whatever position one takes on their moral right to expose the royals’ alleged vile behavior towards Meghan or Harry’s decision to publish a memoir, it is hard to make the case that the public airing of grievances is a way to “uphold the values” of the queen.

There is a compelling case to be made that Harry and Meghan have violated the exit agreement. If, for the sake of argument, one accepts this, the question becomes what sanctions the palace is now capable of imposing on them.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-risking-wrath-of-queen-with-quasi-royal-uk-tour
...

The Duke of Cambridge (Prince William) announced last month that the second Earthshot Prize awards ceremony will take place in Boston this December.
However, he decided, this week, to go to New York in September.
...
William will deliver a speech, and the conference will be attended by last year’s winners and finalists, The Earthshot Prize Global Alliance network, heads of state, global business leaders and philanthropists. ( It doesn't seem similar to the statements made by the Sussexes' spokesperson to People magazine.
"During his visit, Harry, 37, is "welcoming and co-hosting a group of U.S. officials, conservationists and philanthropists as they tour protected wildlife and nature areas)
...

It seems to me that William will give Harry the same bitter tea that Harry will give the monarchy. Harry comes to London (country of the British monarchy) to take care of the causes of his heart (said the Sussexes) and W (my love) will go to the USA, to take care of the causes close to his heart too (the same month that Harry comes to England)
I want to believe that this last-minute decision by Prince William is a calculated and deliberate move to plunge an (invisible) dagger into the hearts of these two narcissists.
snarkyatherbest said…
este. hmmm which sugar will sacrifice for their queen bee. will it be daniel martin with a foundation brush rushing the stage yelling if i can’t have harry no one can. Jessica Mulroney? will her collagen lips explode with a toxic substance all over the Harkles. or will it be princess charlotte after her weekly karate class cutting the mrs down to size.

yeah she would hire a crowd to praise her and try to show harry that he is the problem.

so it looks like William will be in NY in September and back to Boston in December. no wonder the harkles are coming to the UK. they probably think they can talk their way into the queen or wear down charles.
Sandie said…
@Karla
I think you hit the nail on the head. If the Sussexes have been cut off from financial support from the Duchy of Cornwall, they must feel bitter and unjustly treated (even though any such support would come to an end when Charles becomes king). I keep coming across the following:

'The revenue surplus from the Duchy, funds the public, charitable and private activities of six members of the Royal Family: The Duke and Duchess of Cornwall, The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and The Duke and Duchess of Sussex.'

The above is dated text perhaps, and the website for the Duchy of Cornwall does not name anyone but simply refers to 'immediate family'. Note the wording: public, charitable and private activities. Nowhere does anyone say 'in service of the Crown' that I can find but I always assumed that. I am sure the people of Cornwall would be furious if millions from the Duchy of Cornwall was funding the duo in Montecito, but I cannot find any law or regulation stopping Charles from doing that. Could he still be funding them and could this be hidden in the annual accounts?

By the way, if they had chosen to live in Canada or an African Commonwealth country, behaved themselves, treated everyone with respect, shut up, and done genuine good environmental and charitable work, I think they would still get this funding.
Sandie said…
@Karla
Thanks for being able to copy and paste text from the article.

The PR drivel given to Hello magazine is not supported by any evidence, but sounds as if it was written by the deluded duchess. It is completely misleading and there is no evidence he even met the Congressional delegation. The hapless one was photographed with two men, all carrying bulging backpacks. Film crew and filming equipment? What if the Congressional delegation said 'hell no, you cannot film us for Netflix or anything else'.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Golden Staphy’kils!!! I don't know how you do it but you have a very clever way with words. Are you still thinking of writing an anthology of your very witty poems, ditties etc?
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/wskzzh/cant_crosspost_here_but_this_post_gave_me_a/

It is late and I am probably being silly ... but I am fascinated by the photograph in the above thread and can't stop giggling inanely. There is a huge bald patch on her head, and the photo was from years ago so what does the bald patch look like now, and by the time she reaches her 60s ...'!

Does the woman have some kind of 'magical' mirror that shows her a fantasy or is there something wrong with her eyesight?
Karla said…
@Sandie

"Could he still be funding them and could this be hidden in the annual accounts?"

Accounts of the Duchy of Cornwall.

The Duchy’s accounts are audited by a professional auditor. Through the Treasury, these are laid before the House of Commons and the House of Lords so that Parliament can be satisfied that the Treasury is fulfilling its statutory responsibilities. The accounts are now published as part of the Integrated Annual Report.
Integrated Annual Reports are available in pdf format. This report is published on the official website of the Duchy of Cornwall and is available to the public and the press.
The Prince of Wales also publishes details of his income and expenditure in his Annual Review.
...
My opinion

Yes, Prince Charles can transfer money from the Duchy of Cornwall to Harry. The question is, is it okay for the future monarch to hand over money from a duchy he inherited from the Crown to help a son who doesn't want to be a senior crown worker?
I think it unlikely that Prince Charles would pass money from this duchy to Harry and omit it from the annual report. To do that, he has to be dishonest with the information he provides to the public, the media, House of Commons and the House of Lords.
snarkyatherbest said…
Karla. if the amounts transferred to harry are small. like less the 1% of the disbursements from the duchy in may not be listed as a special line item and would be considered immaterial. but the risk is someone knows about any transfers and like the saudi money to PC’s foundation would likely be leaked by someone. hmmm harry relegated to petty cash. i like it!
Sandie said…
'when H&M were still in the UK, Charles gave the 2 couples 4.6 m total, this year's report showed that DDOC + miscellaneous received 4.6 m'

I came across the above that someone posted. Some investigation required! But, I think we are all in agreement that if Charles is still giving the duo millions from the Duchy of Cornwall, he is in trouble. Maybe this was the 'farewell payment' he gave them, and they had the audacity to whine on Oprah that they had been cut off.
Karla said…
Snarkatherbest
harry relegated to petty cash. i like it! Me too.
...
Let's remember that
who said he was cut off financially, it was Harry himself in the interview with Oprah.
Harry said
"My family literally cut me off financially, and I had to afford security for us,” he said, adding “I’ve got what my mum left me, and without that, we would not have been able to do this"

...

He pointed out that he had to pay for his security himself. Which is why he insists on suing the Met, the Minister, the Queen, Charles, me, you 😂 and everyone else over these expenses he has on his security.
Sandie said…
https://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/annual-review/2020-2021

I have not found the statement for the year ending March 2022.

They officially left end of March 2020 and got final payment from Charles in that year. Correct?

The amount given for funding Cambridges and Sussexes is a bit less for year ending March 2021. Was that the year of the final payment to them? Have they not been gone for as long as I thought?

It is August 2022, so I am still hunting for the statement for March 2022.
Jdubya said…
have you seen the Facebook, Instagram, Etsy accounts under the name of Senator Markle? Sellings all sorts of pro- Meghan stuff. Also using photo's of M, H, PW & Diana?
Sandie said…
https://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/annual-review/2021-2022

And here it is. It seems that Charles is not funding the duo anymore, unless he is giving them some of his share after he has banked it. Also, it seems the Cambridges always got a bigger share. Interesting.
---------

Funding for the activities of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry, other expenditure including capital expenditure, and transfer to reserves
Year ending March 2018 (4,962)
Year ending March 2017 (3,529)
-------------

Funding for the activities of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, other expenditure including capital expenditure, and transfer to reserves Year ending March 2019 (5,051)
Year ending March 2018 (4,962)
-------

Funding for the activities of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, other expenditure including capital expenditure, and transfer to reserves Year ending March 2020 (5,607)
Year ending March 2019 (5,051)
-----

Funding for the activities of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, other expenditure including capital expenditure less depreciation, and transfer to reserves
Year ending March 2021 (4,452)
Year ending March 2020 (5,607)
-----

Funding for the activities of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and other expenditure, including capital expenditure less depreciation, and transfers to reserves
Year ending March 2022 (4,381)
Year ending March 2021 (4,452)
Year ending March 2020 (5,607)
Karla said…
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Hikari - sadly, i'm not a speed reader, just dipping into `Revenge' - it was chance that I found that observation.

Life's hectic at the moment - hence my period of radio silence.
A recent BLG video is a reminder of how jealous H was of W in the days before M:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbEdZJwGxB8
snarkyatherbest said…
Marnie perhaps the cambridges getting a bigger share is one of many things that ticked off the duo. and you are right. charles could be sending them some funds out of his own pocket. and that would be dumb of him. won’t look good if something like that comes out.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/Meghanarciss1/status/1560905751463227392

Wedding Vows magazine cover - special Montecito edition (joke)
Sandie said…
Apologies for going on about this, but I got some more figures...

March 2013 (2088)
March 2014 (2893) +805
March 2015 (2965) +27
March 2016 (3249) +284
March 2017 (3529) +320
March 2018 (4962) +1433
March 2019 (5051) +89
March 2020 (5607) +556
March 2021 (4452) -1155
March 2022 (4381) -71

Karla said…
@Sandie
Nice that you posted this part of the Duchy of Cornwall report.
In the introduction to this 2022 report, Prince Charles mentioned Prince William (I can't say if this was in 2021, I didn't open the full report for that year)
"As ever, the knowledge, interest and involvement of The Duke of Cornwall and The Duke of Cambridge have been vital to all that we do. I thank all staff for their contributions in delivering these."
...

And we must remember that Harry may have received his share of Prince Philip's inheritance.
Hikari said…
It shouldn’t surprise anyone that the heir gets a bigger slice of the Duchy of Cornwall pie, just as he will get everything when he ascends. The firstborn gets all the boodle. This is why the Queen Mum and Diana specifically made greater provision for Harry. The Crown heir has a bigger household to run and will have all the burdens of state. Harry was always free to choose another paid career in the way William wasn’t. A military pension can’t compete with the Royal purse but Harry had the privilege of freedom to choose other paths. If he’d married a less money hungry spouse—one who would have been content to live half the year in Africa with him, I think Harry could’ve been contented with a less lavish lifestyle. He personally has never given the impression that he cares that much about things like designer fashion or other outward accoutrements of wealth. His personal presentation is of a Millennial stoner living in mommy’s basement. Even when he was still in the firm, pre-marriage, he only dressed up under duress and the rest of the time looked like a slob. “Casual Harry”—or what I prefer to call “slovenly gibshite” has always been his ‘brand’. But Harry’s brand of casualness is expensive as we know… Private planes don’t come cheap. Designer drugs also pricey. But I sincerely think that Harry doesn’t give a crap about the mansion in Montecito for itself. He’d probably be just as content getting stoned in a tiny home. So long as he was waited on hand and foot. The big house and designer wardrobe and jewelry for his wife are merely status symbols to compete with his brother. Otherwise he might be just as happy in a tent marinating in his own BO. He’s obsessed with money because he sees himself as the “have not” to William’s “have it all.” Harry is not obsessed with material things so much as obsessed with the idea that the world perceives him as lesser than his brother.

Well, his lifelong behavior and especially his more recent behavior has just solidified the reality that he is lesser than his brother in every way, not only in birth position but in every conceivable way as a human being. No amount of cash or baubles is going to fix what is wrong with Harry. But he’s too stupid to realize that there’s no amount of money or celebrity deals that are going to make him happy. Happiness is an inner quality which he will never possess, nor his wife. They are both empty pits Which will never be filled.
Sandie said…
@Karla
Nope, other than bequests for close aides/staff, Phillip left everything to the Queen. He had 4 children, 8 grandchildren and about 10 or 11 great-grandchildren when he died, plus godchildren and relatives in Germany. He probably left personal items where appropriate, but I think everything went to the Queen and it was her who passed down the horse and carriage to Louise.

Royals are not like other rich people where a deceased estate is shared among surviving children and grandchildren.
There was no inheritance for the hapless one from Phillip. That must have surprised TBW. I think she still does not get it and thinks there will be an inheritance from the Queen. There won't, and harassing her as they have been doing will not change that.

The monarchy survives, in part, by keeping wealth in the hands of the monarch, who preserves and increases that wealth to pass on to the next monarch. Of course, a monarch will help out a child/relative in trouble to a certain extent, and there usually are generous wedding gifts, but I don't think the duo got anything other than that generous gift of millions from the Duchy of Cornwall via Charles. Frogmore is a 'gift' because although they pay rent via a lease, there are major additional benefits they get from living on a Crown Estate for which they do not pay extra.

Imagine TBW marrying into an extremely wealthy family and then realizing (if she has) that she has no right to that wealth and cannot get her hands on it! I don't think she has even acknowledged how pissed off she is about that!
Sandie said…
Supposedly Phillip gave the hapless one a couple of Purdey (?) guns. The hapless one supposedly sold them and the proceeds were probably used by TBW for itty bitty jewellery (no inheritance value there) and one ill-fitting designer outfit that she would wear once. Phillip would not have given him anything more to fritter away.

In a way, the duo were right. If they stayed, they would have had ultra generous allowances, the running of an office staffed by about a dozen people all paid for, full-on security, subsidized secure housing, plenty of publicity and so on. They would have lived a wealthy and privileged lifestyle without worries. But they would have very little to pass onto their children, who would be too far down the line to get the perks of royalty. Unless Charles bought and gave them a private estate, no property. Their private money invested could have ensured a comfortable retirement, but as long as they were working royals they could not accumulate wealth in any other way. And TBW might have realized that she would not get a huge payout if there was a divorce.
Este said…
Lady C's video today is very good. The UK trip is them trying to convince us they aren't second row royals and a stunningly deluded last ditch attempt to assert their half in / half out royal status. They got booed at the Platinum. Harry gave a speech to a largely empty room and they allegedly are having to buy fans for Meghan's more far important talk coming up.

Lady C says to a person who wrote into her and wondered if Harry and Meghan didn't have blood on their hands given the toll it's taking on the Queen: You are so close to the literal truth. You have no idea. And one of these days you will find out the significance of what I"m saying.. Chilling.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Hikar

The Frankish kings used to split their kingdom amongst all their children, and the kingdoms kept getting smaller and smaller, so they finally stopped.

Readers of Jane Austen will have some idea of inheritance within grand families - the estate (ie the land & big house) could not be jeopardised by being shared out among the offspring preserved in the way that middle class distribute legacies. Their rule is strictly Primogenita. The eldest son gets the lot- the estate is `entailed' ie there are rules about what happens if there's no son - the daughters still don't get it but it passes to nearest male relative - think Revd Collins. Only if there is no qualifying male heir to be found would a daughter inherit.

Second sons went into the Army, third ones the Church. Daughters had to `marry well' or endure genteel poverty, hoping for largesse from the heir.

It's not just about money - land means power and there's no surer way of a family losing wealth and influence (apart from gambling it away) than to divide the deceased's assets equally among a large brood of sons.

The succession to the throne is rather like that, only it's matter of a kingdom being at stake. Did H think he might become king of the western part of UK while Wm got the east?
GWAH & Hikari -

Thanks for the info on the Frankish kings, I posted mine after yours but before it appeared. A similar rule was imposed on the holdings of the Irish rural poor, possibly by the then-independent Irish government rather than Westminster (long time since I did O-level history!). The plots became so small in time that it was impossible to grow enough potatoes to feed a family.
Maneki Neko said…
I'm reading Tom Bower's book on and off. I don't find the book very well written. There are quite a few dangling modifiers which show very poor grammar and don't help reading. Do editors not check these things? Anyway, this is not a literary review. I'm reading about the Reitmans advertising campaign. * is complaining non stop, she's very demanding, she wants business if not first class air tickets (for other campaigns too), a better hotel suite and just seems to be driving everyone round the bend. One account executive said 'She's definitely the meanest person I've ever met'... Another female member of the team would more specific. A long-term fan of Suits and Meghan, that person had looked forward to working with the actress: 'Instead, I thought she was a bit of a bully filled with a narcissist entitlement complex that had everyone walk on eggshells, as well as the agency and product teams work around the clock under tremendous stress with no demonstration of appreciation at all. More often than not, sarcastic, condescending, demeaning criticism.

Neatly summed up. I hope the Palace staff who were bullied by madam read this particular chapter and feel vindicated.
DesignDoctor said…
@Este
What you related from Lady C’s comment about “ blood on their hands” is chilling! It makes me very sad to hear it. I am sure the shenanigans while PP was so ill is another case of hastening someone’s demise.
Karla said…
WBBM
Jane Austen I love it. My favorite Persuasion.
....

@Sandie
I was happy to know. Congratulations Prince Philip!
...

"The monarchy survives, in part, by keeping wealth in the hands of the monarch, who preserves and increases that wealth to pass on to the next monarc."

Now imagine MM knowing that Prince William when becomes Duke of Cornwall & turns into the sole beneficiary of a HUGE property empire which is worth a lowkey estimate of £1 billion ( Twitter news) which will be Catherine's along with the title of princess ( official and world-renowned and not just for the sugars)
Catherine, Princess of Wales
...

" Imagine TBW marrying into an extremely wealthy family and then realizing (if she has) that she has no right to that wealth and cannot get her hands on it! I don't think she has even acknowledged how pissed off she is about that!"
In Dan Wooton's article, this quote "was made clear to them there was no going back at the Sandringham Summit in January 2020, less than two weeks after I revealed the couple’s decision to Megxit.
I think Harry and Meghan may be expressing a desire to return as senior workers to the Monarchy.
If indeed, the rumors about Netflix and Spotify ending their contracts with the duo are real and the Kensington apartment becomes available, I have no doubt that Harry and Meghan will want to return to maintain their lives of luxury, paid security and royal appearances full of luxury and glamour.
And returning to the royal fold, Harry could be graced with part of the queen's inheritance. And then, she can share it with Harry.
I ask: did Meghan realize that working for the queen was better than what is happening to her now?
If the answer is yes, she will believe that she was never wrong and that the royal family should welcome her back with open hugs for her.
I know it's a confused opinion, but MM's mind is too
DesignDoctor said…
@Maneki
Bravo for your comment hoping her staff reads the Bower book and feels vindicated. Her demanding, entitled attitude did not begin with the title. What a poor way to treat others.
Ralph L said…
I don't believe the monarch pays inheritance tax when he dies (or on money left to him). George V left his younger sons 3/4ths of a million pounds each, quite a lot of money in 1936, but the Kents had money problems anyway.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.voanews.com/a/thousands-fete-south-africa-s-new-zulu-king-/6710002.html

The BRF isn't the only monarchy with family issues. The new Zulu king who ascended the throne just recently has challengers from within his own family.

He had to kill a lion as part of the ascendancy procedure.
Hikari said…
@Sandie

After the Spectacle Wedding, Charles attempted, and failed, to gift Merch and Lurch the self-sustaining organic farm in Hertfortshire, if we recall. That seems like a sizable land holding and I got the impression that it was meant to be a gift out right, in the way that Anmer Hall was to the Cambridges. Who, incidentally, were offered that property first upon their marriage and they also rejected it. I’m sure Charles’s heart is broken over this. Perhaps for William and his family it wouldn’t have been the most practical choice. Too inconveniently situated to London for the heir’s family… and now, the situation being what it is, William can be close to hand in Windsor. But for somebody like Harry, it seems like it would’ve been ideal, at least it would’ve been ideal if the couples claims to desire privacy and a simple “regular“ life for their children had been genuine. Smegma is like Diana in one crucial way: her repudiation of anything to do with the English countryside. There would’ve been a lot of opportunities to use her supposed interests on this farm… Setting up a farm shop, running the online store front, even hosting an ongoing blog about life on the farm and her organic lifestyle and singing the praises of British agriculture… I think all of these would have met with official approval so long as it was clear that her activities were promoting the monarchy and not herself. And there was the rub.

If this organic farm near the Welsh border west have been an actual gift instead of just a rental, that would’ve been something to pass down to their children. Their theoretical children that is. It’s not like there’s going to be anything left Aries inheritance to pass on as it now stands.
xxxxx said…
I like alliteration. From the DM comment section>>

The Inquiring Mind, Redcar, 12 hours ago
Harry and his MALEVOLENT much-married mistress offer no value to the UK. They are driven by ego and can offer nothing by visiting the UK! In the end, the only way to end this circus is to remove Hazmat Harry from the line of succession...ENDGAME!
Rebecca said…
From The Times:

CAMILLA LONG
Bored and ignored, Harry Targaryen is riding home again. Come, friendly dragonfire . . .


The star of the new Game of Thrones prequel is fabulous: a surly, narcissistic, spoilt second son. He is shown riding dragons, shagging lovelies who look like Kourtney Kardashian and petulantly calling summits. He gets super-frustrated because, like most second sons, he’s often laughed at and ignored.

Halfway through one of his spectacular freak-outs — clubbing a peace messenger half to death with his own helmet — I thought: “Who does Daemon Targaryen remind me of, if not Prince Harry?” The sulking, the dyspepsia, the environmentally unfriendly mode of transport. Every time I look at Matt Smith’s scowling face in House of the Dragon, I think of three words: alternative royal tour.

Like Daemon, Harry faces a terrible problem: what will he do with his life? He can sit in California, dolefully ordering commemorative wreaths from the local florist to lay in a plastic Hollywood cemetery as part of some faux Remembrance Day cosplay, or updating the now rarely updated Archewell website. But that’s not very interesting, is it? So he’s decided to come back and try to reclaim the only thing he has ever known: royal life.

What have we done to deserve this?

We’re told the Duke and Duchess of Sussex will be returning to this country in September to “visit with several charities” in London and Manchester. Meghan will give a keynote speech on “equality” while, I’m assuming, fiercely mouthing “TEETH” and “SMILES” at her husband from the sidelines. I’m sure there’ll be many photo opportunities and a £50,000 wardrobe made entirely of silk and cashmere, while we are lectured about the value of “humility” and “racial justice” and told how “committed” they are to “serving humanity” at the One Young World summit. She might even manage a tantrum about security in a covered market. My advice to any journalist is simple: just make sure you ask her if she’s OK.

They probably aren’t calling it an “alternative royal tour”, but what else is it? During the Wars of the Roses — incidentally, the source material for Game of Thrones — a rival court was set up every other decade. What is Harry, if not a pretender? He has always behaved as if he were a medieval princeling. Just look at the peasants he wanted lining the route to his wedding: 1,500 lucky plebs. And the language he uses, telling us the Queen needs “protecting”. This is sexism 1389.
Rebecca said…
The only difference is that rather than armies of mercenaries, he uses armies of spokespeople who create press releases and blog posts. Every other hour there is some lickspittle slingshotting some spin around our ears about the brilliance of House Harry. You can just imagine the multitudes of scrofulous, fawning press officers telling him it’s fine to feed the journalists to the dragons, when they’re the ones who should be roasted for using the words “visit with”.

Will the public love it? I’ll bet my tiara they will. If there is one thing we’ve learnt from the past six years, it is that we now value style over content, royal soap opera over pomp and circumstance. Anyone who ever clapped Greta Thunberg will love Harry’s drivelling, content-free obsession with himself. It will pack conference halls.

As for Meghan, if she can pretend she is working royalty and that nothing ever happened, she will. There is our truth, the collective truth, and then, as we know, there is the Sussexes’ “truth”, and never the twain shall meet. It is what happens when you get two self-obsessed golden bog-havers who think they can do whatever they want.

The problem with all this, of course, is that the current royal family spend a huge amount of time emphasising duty, diligence, service and grace. While Harry is whirlybirding into Manchester to participate in some sub-Trudeau globalist balls — “four transformative days of panels” — his cousin, Lady Louise Windsor, has been working in a garden centre for £6.83 an hour, the minimum wage. What’s interesting is that this modest, likeable young woman, who looks as if she can take or leave being part of the royal family, strikes me as much more of a role model than anyone you’d catch around Meghan or at one of her ambitious, empty summits.

As someone who seems happy to simply hold down a job, she is the true royal rebel — unlike Harry and Meghan, who think anything that doesn’t involve a photoshoot is, like, what. What, exactly, do these two stand for, except hair and make-up and a morass of badly expressed ideas that show no self-awareness whatsoever?

I know what will happen next: more staged visits. More appearances here. More droning on about Africa. Opening stores and cinemas and commercial enterprises that will have them, like M&M’s World or some Lego thing or a restaurant that reflects their “values”.

Perhaps they will set up an alternative honours system in which there is nothing so gendered as knighthoods, just “recognition”, as Meghan will call it, for people who’ve been “authentic” and “their true selves”.
SwampWoman said…
Este said...
Lady C's video today is very good. The UK trip is them trying to convince us they aren't second row royals and a stunningly deluded last ditch attempt to assert their half in / half out royal status. They got booed at the Platinum. Harry gave a speech to a largely empty room and they allegedly are having to buy fans for Meghan's more far important talk coming up.

Lady C says to a person who wrote into her and wondered if Harry and Meghan didn't have blood on their hands given the toll it's taking on the Queen: You are so close to the literal truth. You have no idea. And one of these days you will find out the significance of what I"m saying.. Chilling.


My goodness, this was her most revealing interview yet. I do like where she pointed out that their bad behavior is not the British taxpayers' problem (to pay for their security). They need to sort it out themselves.

I completely agree that there is no coming back for Harry to the way it used to be. He has destroyed his relationships with his family. His brother is not going to forgive or forget.

I also agree that the Royal Family are doing everything they possibly can behind the scenes to minimize the damage that the sixes do. We're not going to see the knockout punch. There probably won't BE a knockout punch, just a lot of little revelations (which, in aggregate IMO, could be a knockout punch).

SwampWoman said…
xxxxx said...
I like alliteration. From the DM comment section>>

The Inquiring Mind, Redcar, 12 hours ago
Harry and his MALEVOLENT much-married mistress offer no value to the UK. They are driven by ego and can offer nothing by visiting the UK! In the end, the only way to end this circus is to remove Hazmat Harry from the line of succession...ENDGAME!


I don't know how it will all end. I don't think they will be able to stay in California; they're going to owe too much to too many people. I don't believe that they will be able to return to England. I think *he* may be able to, but he's going to have to keep his head down and his nose clean which he may be incapable of.
`In Hereford, Hertford and Hampshire,
Hurricanes hardly happen.'

Lerner and Loewe `My Fair Lady'

We've been here before. As far as I'm aware, there are no longer any royal, let alone Duchy, lands in Hertfordshire. Once, or rather twice, the whole of England `belonged' to the king, who granted land to favoured followers - the first instance was in Anglo-Saxon times, the second when Wm the Conqueror made his 1066 land grab and turfed out the A-S aristocracy. The newspapers are fond of describing grand properties as `royal' when they haven't been so for centuries.

From the Duchy website:
`...in 1959, Daglingworth in Gloucestershire was bought, with Highgrove and Cradley in Herefordshire acquired in 1991.

In 2000, the Duchy purchased the Prudential’s rural portfolio, which is scattered over a number of counties, the bulk being in Herefordshire.
'
Cradley is less then 5 miles from Gt Malvern, so it's hardly at the back of beyond.

Cradley is not to be confused with Cradley Heath in the Black Country - I assume we're still allowed to call it that? - the area of heavy industry around Birmingham.

O/T If you're interested in the way the English industrial working classes were treated until well into the 20thC look up the chainmakers of Cradley Heath - blacksmithing as a cottage industry:

`While researching his book Chain and Anchor Making In the Black Country, published in 2006, local historian Ron Moss was told by the son of a back yard chainmaker that his mother had made chains from 6 am to 6 pm, then crossed the yard into her house, and with the help of the local midwife, gave birth. She then returned to her forge and continued working until 10 pm.'

at https://www.womenchainmakers.org.uk/babies-in-the-chain-shop/

I've read elsewhere that the newborn would be hung from the rafters in the forge while `Mom' (Black Country for `Mum) continued to hammer away at her anvil.
Sandie said…
@Hikari
I could see the Cambridges making a success of such an organic farming venture, and being able to be part-time working royals!

It seems the 'tradition' of setting up younger children of the monarch on a small private estate, or even a 'suitable' private home, has been stopped.

Charles: he gets it all

Anne: gifted Gatcombe Park, a sizable estate from which she can earn some kind of income, which she has made a success of and where her two children live with their children (and they will inherit)

Andrew: gifted the new build Sunninghill Park plus a huge chunk of land, all of which was abandoned, fell into disrepair and was sold in a shady deal; now languishes in Crown property, but Sarah has wisely bought a townhouse in another shady deal (Beatrice will be ok, but Eugenie and Jack not so much)

Edward: no private property but a sizable property on Crown estate of Windsor and a life of a full-time working royal, but no property to pass onto children and no income from an estate

William: he gets it all (Anmer Hall is part of the Sandringham Estate, private property of the Queen, which he will inherit anyway)

Harry: a lesser residence on the Windsor Estate with no significant land attached, so, like Edward, no property to pass onto children and no estate providing an income (additionally no service to the Crown, which would put him in an advantageous position with the monarch, father and then brother and then nephew, to provide assisted living on Crown estate for old age)

As for money inherited: royal wills are sealed so we do not know who inherits and how much.

Much has been said of inheritance left by the Queen mother, but she left everything to her daughter (including her debts!), so exempt from inheritance tax, and her private property of Castle of Mey had been put in a trust before she died but Charles seems to control that trust. Other than bequests to staff, it is unlikely that she left any of her estate, other than small items perhaps, to any grandchildren (four) or great grandchildren (eight) as those bequests would then be taxed. The story about the millions inherited by William and Harry is made up by the media and is not supported by the facts.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/may/18/queenmother.monarchy

Prince Phillip is unlikely to have had a fortune. He had his naval salary and possibly pension, but he had no private inheritance nor a private income.

As I said previously, this must have been a huge shock to TBW. She married into a very wealthy and famous family, but to a younger brother so there would be no inheritance, no estate ... impeccable and life-long service to the Crown was the only way to secure a home and an income. Maybe she still does not 'get it' and the obsession with the Queen is at least partly to secure an inheritance from her. The only hope of inheritance the duo have is from Charles, and that will be subject to inheritance tax. Charles has no private estate to leave them; any items of value that he owns personally he will leave to the Crown to go to the royal collection rather than give it to those Luddites; he will follow tradition and make sure the heir and his family are well taken care of if some kind of revolution should deprive the Cambridge family of the Crown estates, and duchies of Cornwall and Lancashire.

For the duo, there is no way back to the comfort and security of a life of service to the Crown. (I am not sure that they understand and accept this.) Their private empire building seems to be crashing into spectacular public failure. There is no inheritance to count on in the future. I do think that they will be able to grift their way through life, but as big spenders and rather stupid and divisive people, they are always going to be on the edge of major financial and reputational disaster.
Magatha Mistie said…

Dysentery

Maleficent and Malcontent
Treated family with dissent
Aided their own swift descent
By emptying
their bowel content…

Sandie said…
A well-written rant:

PART I
The star of the new Game of Thrones prequel is fabulous: a surly, narcissistic, spoilt second son. He is shown riding dragons, shagging lovelies who look like Kourtney Kardashian and petulantly calling summits. He gets super-frustrated because, like most second sons, he’s often laughed at and ignored.

Halfway through one of his spectacular freak-outs — clubbing a peace messenger half to death with his own helmet — I thought: “Who does Daemon Targaryen remind me of, if not Prince Harry?” The sulking, the dyspepsia, the environmentally unfriendly mode of transport. Every time I look at Matt Smith’s scowling face in House of the Dragon, I think of three words: alternative royal tour.

Like Daemon, Harry faces a terrible problem: what will he do with his life? He can sit in California, dolefully ordering commemorative wreaths from the local florist to lay in a plastic Hollywood cemetery as part of some faux Remembrance Day cosplay, or updating the now rarely updated Archewell website. But that’s not very interesting, is it? So he’s decided to come back and try to reclaim the only thing he has ever known: royal life.
What have we done to deserve this?

We’re told the Duke and Duchess of Sussex will be returning to this country in September to “visit with several charities” in London and Manchester. Meghan will give a keynote speech on “equality” while, I’m assuming, fiercely mouthing “TEETH” and “SMILES” at her husband from the sidelines. I’m sure there’ll be many photo opportunities and a £50,000 wardrobe made entirely of silk and cashmere, while we are lectured about the value of “humility” and “racial justice” and told how “committed” they are to “serving humanity” at the One Young World summit. She might even manage a tantrum about security in a covered market. My advice to any journalist is simple: just make sure you ask her if she’s OK.

They probably aren’t calling it an “alternative royal tour”, but what else is it? During the Wars of the Roses — incidentally, the source material for Game of Thrones — a rival court was set up every other decade. What is Harry, if not a pretender? He has always behaved as if he were a medieval princeling. Just look at the peasants he wanted lining the route to his wedding: 1,500 lucky plebs. And the language he uses, telling us the Queen needs “protecting”. This is sexism 1389.

The only difference is that rather than armies of mercenaries, he uses armies of spokespeople who create press releases and blog posts. Every other hour there is some lickspittle slingshotting some spin around our ears about the brilliance of House Harry. You can just imagine the multitudes of scrofulous, fawning press officers telling him it’s fine to feed the journalists to the dragons, when they’re the ones who should be roasted for using the words “visit with”.

Will the public love it? I’ll bet my tiara they will. If there is one thing we’ve learnt from the past six years, it is that we now value style over content, royal soap opera over pomp and circumstance. Anyone who ever clapped Greta Thunberg will love Harry’s drivelling, content-free obsession with himself. It will pack conference halls.

Sandie said…
PART II

As for Meghan, if she can pretend she is working royalty and that nothing ever happened, she will. There is our truth, the collective truth, and then, as we know, there is the Sussexes’ “truth”, and never the twain shall meet. It is what happens when you get two self-obsessed golden bog-havers who think they can do whatever they want.

The problem with all this, of course, is that the current royal family spend a huge amount of time emphasising duty, diligence, service and grace. While Harry is whirlybirding into Manchester to participate in some sub-Trudeau globalist balls — “four transformative days of panels” — his cousin, Lady Louise Windsor, has been working in a garden centre for £6.83 an hour, the minimum wage. What’s interesting is that this modest, likeable young woman, who looks as if she can take or leave being part of the royal family, strikes me as much more of a role model than anyone you’d catch around Meghan or at one of her ambitious, empty summits.
As someone who seems happy to simply hold down a job, she is the true royal rebel — unlike Harry and Meghan, who think anything that doesn’t involve a photoshoot is, like, what. What, exactly, do these two stand for, except hair and make-up and a morass of badly expressed ideas that show no self-awareness whatsoever?

I know what will happen next: more staged visits. More appearances here. More droning on about Africa. Opening stores and cinemas and commercial enterprises that will have them, like M&M’s World or some Lego thing or a restaurant that reflects their “values”.

Perhaps they will set up an alternative honours system in which there is nothing so gendered as knighthoods, just “recognition”, as Meghan will call it, for people who’ve been “authentic” and “their true selves”.

https://archive.ph/2022.08.21-111044/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bored-and-ignored-harry-targaryen-is-riding-home-again-come-friendly-dragonfire-rzm9tf73h?shareToken=7f1a3755fc7c222784e01dfdee5d9992
Magatha Mistie said…

The World According to Carp

He can write all his tripe
Bulled by P.R. SS hype
Most won’t bother
to read it
Packed full of lies
More whinging
desperate cries
Debagged, debauched
feckin eejit…

Magatha Mistie said…

@Rebecca
Thank you for Camilla Long
Superb!

Magatha Mistie said…

@Karla
Cheers 😊

@Maneki
Thank you for always
‘getting me’
Very much appreciated.
Bit too subtle sometimes?
Book, apprehensive!




Karla said…
Magatha 👏
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Has anyone ever considered the possibility that Harry's trip to Mozambique is a sign of his displeasure with Meghan.
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On the Instagram account of US Senator Chris Coons, who was in Mozambique, it seems that he says that it was the US Ambassador to Mozambique, Peter Vrooman, who accompanied them to see African Parks (no comment on Harry who is the President of African Parks)

Does anyone agree with me?

https://www.instagram.com/p/ChacJMqv-KM/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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Prince Harry Appointed President of African Parks

https://www.africanparks.org/princeharry.
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And so that the media and the sugary public didn't raise this possibility, the PR of MM started to make a ym spin of new votes and how they still desperately love each other.
Renewing vows when Harry decides to travel alone and without Meghan seemed so convenient.
In the same period, the disclosure that they return to the UK. Lots of smoke and mirrors when Harry is away from Meghan and soon everyone forgot about it and we're only talking about his return to the UK.
After all, what did Harry go to do in Mozambique without NEM? I believe it was his PR who ran with the false information that he was to host US Senators, Harry himself was silent.
I'm busy clearing out a room that's been used as a dumping ground for years and found all the papers about my disastrous marriage to what I now recognise as a malignant narcissist, mostly counselling notes, solicitor's letters and the like. I'd hung on to them in case he came back to me for money but thought I'd destroyed them all, once I knew he was safely dead in 2016. (Had I not put up a legal fight to get free, I'd have had to have waited almost 35 years for nature to take its course).

Reading them for the final time before shredding, I could see they constituted a text-book study of a Malignant Narc. in action - how he was all sweetness and light before the marriage but dropped the mask within 3 weeks of the ceremony. I stayed just long enough to accept that there was nothing I could do to make the marriage work, apart from being cowed into acting as his servant. It looks as if he was actively trying to drive me into insanity.

If only I had known then what I know now. If only someone had said, `It's him, not you. Run for your life!', I might have escaped sooner and also avoided my later narcissists like the plague.

Unfortunately, awareness of this disorder was almost non-existent at this time and still isn't much known in the wider community. I gather from the Internet that Erich Fromm was the first to raise the issue c1984. I only found the online material in 2018, having googled, in the first instance, `emotional blackmail'. That led me to `narcissism' and the light flooded in.

This online piece sketches out the problem and is well worth reading:

https://exploringyourmind.com/malignant-narcissism-according-to-erich-fromm/

I'd like to think that those of us who have been on the receiving end of such behaviour share an obligation to to help others avoid this vile abuse by raising awareness.

If anything positive comes out of the trouble that * causes, it may be that this vile personality disorder is given a higher profile.
OKay said…
Camilla Long is delightfully bitchy. I don't agree at all, though, that the public will "love" anything the Harkles do. The vast majority of people simply don't care about them, and the ones who do almost universally despise them.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Rebecca: Thanks for the posting.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Sandie
Golden bog-havers
hahahaha!

Karla said…
WBBM

" I'd like to think that those of us who have been on the receiving end of such behaviour share an obligation to to help others avoid this vile abuse by raising awareness.

If anything positive comes out of the trouble that * causes, it may be that this vile personality disorder is given a higher profile"
OMG, I was moved to tears with that comment. And I received so many welcoming words here and from so many people I don't know. Those words came straight to my heart.
Thank you very much my love. May God pour out all the blessings in the world to all of you who understand us.
kisses to all🙏🙏🙏❤️
Hikari said…
@WBBM

Dear Me, I got it wrong again. Apologies for mixing up Herefordshire and Hertfordshire yet again. I had gotten it into my head that the one with the tea was the one further from London. Chalk it up to Yank ignorance with no malice intended. They are just so similar. I’m sure Britons would make the same error with say Idaho versus Iowa in the US… What is famous for corn in the other for potatoes but which is which? Lol

@Sandie

Since the monarch has far more homes and properties than he/she could ever stay in, I wonder why more of the lesser royals are not gifted homes which could be an inheritance to their children rather than this grace and favor system whereby they have to come up with rents even though they aren’t necessarily working royals and can be ordered to vacate by HM’s whim. Even if the properties were more modest then where Edward for example in our lives, it would preclude having to have a constant shuffle of cottages and rental agreement amongst the minor Royals. Why should the princess Royal be gifted a grand estate where she can house all of her children and grandchildren but Edward, also a child of the Queen and poised to assume his late father’s title have to pay rent on his place? When he dies, will Sophie and the adult children and possibly grandchildren by that time have to vacate? I think the entire royal family, With the exception of Harry, understand that they are caretakers of these national heritage sites. The queen understands this. But if she were to give some of her minor properties to her extended family with the proviso that they could not sell or modify outlandishly, it would Give the lower ranking Royals a greater sense of security, and perhaps that would lead to less discontent and trashy commercial deals. I support the idea of them earning their own livings too, but perhaps with a guaranteed family home for life at no cost, Eugenie’s husband could do something more dignified than shill tequila and holiday homes in Portugal. The Brooksbanks are a case in point. Euge is a granddaughter of the Queen who has had to play musical houses since leaving uni. She went from Royal Lodge to St. James Palace to Ivy Cottage back to Royal Lodge to await the birth of her son, to Frogmore Cottage (allegedly) back to Ivy Cott and now she lives in Portugal as there seems to be no stable accommodation for her family at any of Granny’s digs. All of this in the space of perhaps 10 years… That is a lot of moving around, while the queen has dozens and dozens if not hundreds of vacant homes available all across the UK. It’s just an interesting management of resources
Sandie said…
@Karla
I agree. The PR put out for Hello magazine makes no sense at all. The hapless one appears in none of the photos (official and unofficial) posted by the delegation, nor is his name mentioned anywhere.

The delegation did spend time at a marine reserve managed by the African Parks organization, but no mention of the prince (who is president of the organization) at all.

The hapless one was photographed with two men who Hello claims are friends. So, four flights and a long way to travel for him to hang out with two unknown friends for a few days (jet lag alone must have knocked them out for one of those days). And why are they carrying so much stuff in their bags?

It just makes no sense to me whatsoever. But maybe it doesn't ... raced over there with a film crew (where are the bodyguards?) but the delegation from America not only denied him the opportunity to film or take photos to use for publicity, but pretty much ignored him and focused on locals.

It makes no sense because the Hello PR nonsensical article was provided by the deluded duchess? She is making up stuff again?

Anyway, I hope the hapless one and his two-man film crew enjoyed the mini holiday in a fabulous chilled out place.
Sandie said…
@WBBM
Just my opinion, but in the woke fascism of today, narcissism is encouraged. It has become a plague! My truth, my gender identification, my feelings, my entitlement ...

'Channeling' narcissism can be very beneficial for a performer, while performing, if one has exceptional talent. But even then, cultivating the traits of narcissism is fraught with the danger of harming others and misleading a lot of stupid followers.

What do you think is the main reason why they are so harmful and destructive (which trait?), or is it the whole package?
Rebecca said…
@Magatha@Fifi
You are very welcome 🙂. I don’t always agree with Camilla Long but she certainly has Maleficent and Malcontent pegged! And she knows how to go for the jugular in a humorous way.

I would not put it past Netflix to make sure a paid pro-Sussex crowd is present to cheer them on before the cameras. They need to try and recoup at least part of their investment.

Will any of our Brit Nutties be watching the 4-part documentary Diana: Death in Paris? Both the Times and Telegraph had interesting articles about the key players in the investigation. I will try and get the program using a UK VPN but am not sure that will work.
SwampWoman said…
What would have been *'s eventual fate had she been a normal person that worked hard to represent England and support Harry in the event of his death? Since neither would own anything, would the family keep supporting her in genteel poverty until her death?
Hikari said…
@Swampie,

I suppose they would have let her keep FroggyCott, for shorter transport to her final resting place across the street, next to Wallis. I suppose that’s where Harry will wind up too—next to Uncke David, the last disgraced Windsor to bolt from duty in favor of a life of ‘freedom’ with a dominatrix American.

Alternatively she might have been given a flat at KP with all the other moldy oldies.
Karla said…
@Sandie

Netflix? Maybe, but in this Mozambique Instagram account there is a photo of Harry in Vilankulo.
I don't know if you read the Portuguese language well, but here says he was with Yassin Amuji, president of tourism in this district. It also informs that they do not know for sure the reason for this visit.
They tried to talk to the management of Vilankulo Beach Lodge and they refused to give any kind of information claiming privacy and guest safety. I thought: if he was with a Netflix film crew and these were visible, these questions would be answered. But I could be wrong.
Note: to read in English, just change the language of Instagram in your account settings.

https://www.instagram.com/p/ChXvWYsDtGo/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

...

Tickets to Harry and Meghan summit in Manchester cost £1,000 PER DAY.

aims to bring together the 'brightest young leaders from every country and sector' with the lofty ambition to 'confront the biggest challenges facing humanity'.

And next month participants at the One Young World summit in Manchester will be joined in their earnest work by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

But sharing a conference centre with them doesn't come cheap – bright young delegates will have to fork out £1,000-a day to attend the three-day event, and that doesn't include the cost of travelling to Manchester or accommodation.

Those attending the conference for the first time and hoping to bag a ticket, including private accommodation, will have to spend £4,210.

Conference organisers point out that Harry and Meghan won't be paid and that 30 per cent of young people will attend on a scholarship.

Meghan has been an ambassador for One Young World since 2014, and is due to give the keynote address at this year's opening ceremony in Bridgewater Hall before she and Harry participate in a round-table debate about equality.
Another issue due to be discussed at this year's summit is how 'economic insecurity' affects faith in leaders; something that seems rather ironic given the summit is charging such eye-watering fees.

Meghan has praised the One Young World delegates for speaking out against 'human rights violations, environmental crises, gender equality issues, discrimination and injustice'.

And she has explained: 'When I was asked to be a Counsellor at One Young World my response was a resounding: Yes! One Young World invites young adults from all over the world who are actively working to transform the socio-political landscape by being the greater good.'

Other speakers at the summit include Sir Bob Geldof and Little Mix singer Leigh-Anne Pinnock.

Delegates either attend the summit through a partner organisation such as a university, or can attend independently.

Those without support from an organisation can apply for a scholarship. Most of the delegates are aged 18 to 30.

The One Young World website says: 'Delegates participate in speeches, panel discussions and workshops about how, together and individually, we can take action to create a better world.'
But only, it seems, if you can afford it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11130267/Tickets-summit-featuring-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-Manchester-cost-1-000-DAY.html?ito=whatsapp_share_article-masthead
Este said…
From Devil is in Details: March 23, 2022

https://theresalongofanpagerome.blogspot.com/2022/03/devil-is-in-details.html

Astonishingly particularly on Twitter as many of you have witnessed, accounts who break news on or speak on (favorable or not) the duplicit duo are being silenced, banned and permenantly suspended with no warning or recourse option. Not only that, we are a testament that real, verifiable businesses associated with accounts discussing H&M are also taken down. Yes, entire innocent networks are being algorithmically banned just by way of being identified in a social media network. It happened to @Barkjack.

.......

No, it isn't the Oprah interview that will be the total downfall of H&M. Truth is, they are playing with hot, bot fire in constantly using their misleading online infantry to fuel divisive, racist narratives online. This has gotten totally out of control and is being looked at.

There have been recent, new sit downs inside Palace walls about the implications of this social media set up. It is not going un-noticed by the Palace and they are completely aware of this situation. It has reached a fever pitch amid the recent Caribbean Royal Tour whereby, many accounts controlled by the same IP are rallying to create a hostile narrative toward the Royal Family.

Finally, we have been contacted by real, verifiable people and organizations who are constantly being silenced or unjustifiably banned who are potentially seeking legal retribution against the pair's PR firm, using the technical data as proof that the overwhelming onslaught of pro-sussex material and harassment stems from a very small handful of pro-sussex IP addresses. It's looking like more legal drama in the near future and potential crisis intervention actions by the Palace in the days coming.
Blue Dragon said…
Hikari said

"Why should the princess Royal be gifted a grand estate where she can house all of her children and grandchildren but Edward, also a child of the Queen and poised to assume his late father’s title have to pay rent on his place?"

Politics and timing. Ann was given Gatcombe Park in the 1970s. Edward was leased Bagshot Park in the late 1990's. A lot changed in the UK during that period, Diana had died and the country didn't know then what it does now. By the late 1990's the country was less deferential to the monarchy.
Maneki Neko said…
OT

@Hikari

Herefordshire and Hertfordshire look very alike so are easy to confuse. There's no 'Yank ignorance'. I'm not sure how these words are pronounced by Americans, their pronunciations are very different. Herefordshire: he-rifordshire (Traditional IPA: /ˈherɪfədʃə(r)/). Hertfordshire: Hart - as in 'heart' - fordshire (/ˈhɑːtfədʃə(r)/.
Hertfordshire is north of London - the capital, heart of the country - might help you remember. Herefordshire is next to Wales.
Maneki Neko said…
TBW is going to talk, sorry, will give a keynote speech, at One Young World. 'The annual One Young World Summit gathers 2,000 young leaders from around 190 countries and different sectors to inspire and empower them to build a fairer and more sustainable world.' Not entirely relevant but this is from Tom Bower's book in 2016: Meghan promoted clothes manufactured by Forever 21. The company was criticised for paying its workers in Los Angeles as little as $4 an hour, and an average of $7 per hour, scoring 2 out of 5 on 'Ethical Labour Practices', and 2/5 on 'Efforts to Reduce Waste'. Not much sustainability then. And I thought she was committed to ethical labour practices? Do I detect a whiff of hypocrisy?
Sandie said…
@Hikari
Crown property is managed and preserved by the monarchy but does not belong to her, but to the people of the UK. Buckingham Palace, Kensington Palace, Clarence House, St James Palace, Windsor Castle and the Windsor Estate, Holyrood Castle, and probably a few more properties, are all part of the Crown Estate portfolio. Only the Queen, Charles and the Cambridges do not pay rent. (So much for the argument from the hapless one that being sixth in line makes him very important!)

@Blue Dragon hit the nail on the head. Royals were given homes to live in rent free on these estates but times changed in the 1990s. As the youngest, Edward seems to have 'missed the gravy train'. It will be interesting to see how William shakes things up in the future and what changes he will bring to everything, but already in the Queen's reign, so much has changed.

I tried to explain why the monarch does not parcel out properties on her two private estates. The Cambridges have a home on the Sandringham Estate and the Balmoral Estate. Charles has his own home on the Balmoral Estate. The rest of the family have to make do with whatever accommodation is available when they visit. Those private estates are left intact for the use of the monarch and direct heirs so that the reigning monarch will always have independent wealth, not dependent on the public purse or public opinion.

The hapless one was perhaps too dim to realise that he either served the Crown and stayed on the right side of the monarch and direct heirs or he had to make his own wealth and buy his own estate. (Supposedly the Queen pays rent for her cousins living on Crown property from her private wealth because when they were suddenly told to pay rent, they could not afford it and had no private home to go to. I am thinking particularly of Prince and Princess Michael of Kent, but there may be a few others. So, there are probably more Royals living in Crown properties and paying rent; e.g. Princess Alexandra's daughter lives somewhere on the Windsor Estate, the person vacating Adelaide Cottage is a distant cousin of the Queen.)

I wonder if the duo were not offered the Gloucester's large apartment at Kensington Palace (not rent free) but refused because they wanted to set up a separate court at Windsor, thinking they could move into the castle or Frogmore House, and then ended up with Frogmore Cottage.
@Karla - Ihank you for your very kind words, they brought a lump to my throat. It seems like a bad dream now, it was so long ago.

All I can add to the `Nature or Nurture' question with regard to narcissism is that the two very worst ones I've encountered is that each was the youngest of three children.

In the case of the female one, she was bullied by the second child, her sister and each was eaten up by jealousy of the other, thinking the other was their father's favourite. Probably not helped by by the younger being challenged in the looks department.

I don't know much about my ex's childhood - he hated his father - the feeling was mutual I gather - and was spoiled by his mother. His sister told me after we'd split that he'd always been `foul-mouthed, foul tempered, bone-idle and full of male chauvinist piggery' - a fair assessment I'd say, but he kept it hidden until after the wedding.

My last 32 years have been very happy, as I found and married a thoroughly good man.

@Hikari - no problem, it's just that they're very different. Herefordshire is delightfully rural and relatively unchanged since the war but poor dear Hertfordshire, my birthplace, has been almost ruined by the encroachment of London, spoiled by motorways, house-building and traffic.

Yes, you're right about Iowa and Idaho - I looked them up and have forgotten already but shall check if ever I have to refer to either of them.

I am reminded of a joke that did the rounds following the financial disaster of 2007:

Q: What's the difference between Iceland and Ireland?
A: One letter and about 6 months.
Hikari said…
@Sandie

IIRC, At the time of the Sussex marriage, there was talk that they would move into the Gloucester’s apartment in KP. I think M would’ve been keen to be living bright next door to the Crown heir and Catherine, all the better to ‘drop by’ and otherwise stalk them. The Glouchesters took their time in vacating, Which led to the clandestine Cotswolds rental, incidentally a quarter-mile away from Soho Farmhouse and all its attractions. I also seem to have read recently that there is a discreet fertility clinic in the area. The couples official residence during this time was Harry’s bachelor pad of NottCott. I had rather doubted that TBW Spent any time at NC, Owing to the extreme gushiness of articles in ladies’ magazines pre-wedding All about how TBW had invited Assorted female journalists and girlfriends for sleepovers/tours/private teas— And how lovely warren hospitable TBW was, Lavising them with all of her favorite bath robes and fluffy slippers from the Soho’s house line naturally, plates of homemade warm muffins and avocado toast blah blah blah. Positively gag worthy. And then of course there was the elaborate roast chicken dinner engagement story. The more elaborate Harry’s wife gets with embellishing the domestic details all about her decor, food, mindfulness practices etc. the greater load of gobshite it is. I really had a feeling that * Was not welcome at any royal properties including Harry’s pad after The photo taking incident a year prior. But later there was an anecdote by some French diplomat who was a guest at KP saying the nightly boozy loud parties and frequent fireworks being shot off at NottCott were a trial to everyone else on the grounds. Since that anecdote was not flattering to the Sussexes, It has a ring of veracity to it so I don’t know what to think about that.

I really think that William was instrumental in getting Harry and his bint banned from Kensington Palace. I think those wheels were in motion if not before the wedding, certainly afterwards in the wake of the whole dress fitting debacle and the bullying of princess Charlotte which has now been confirmed. * was I believe, stalking Catherine and the children around the ground and in Kensington itself and making her uncomfortable. There was the incident with the flowers when C tried to make the peace and Had the door presumably of Nottingham Cottage slammed in her face. I think William was done trying to play nice long before the Australia tour, but when the “newly pregnant” couple returned from that memorable tour, they found themselves banished to Windsor, to the dilapidated staff quarters no less. I doubt highly that it was ever in their initial plan to try to form a rival court and live at Windsor Castle, but after the queen passed down her dictum that they would be moving… Oh I believe it was either take FrogCott or go to Africa… They tried to spin how they loved Windsor. No they didn’t. For two people consumed with the party scene, Windsor is nowhere, it’s practically the country. And it would have unpleasant associations for hairy of his ignominious time at Eton College down the street.

What they wanted was KP number one, the residence of the crown heir. Nothing else would’ve been acceptable in their eyes. If they thought for a nanosecond that they were being given Frogmore House— I can’t see how hairy would have been under that misapprehension but I could see how his wife would’ve been— I would’ve given it $1000 to see her face when she was taken to Frogmoor cottage, her new home next to a bog and the bones of Queen Victoria. Priceless!
Henrietta said…
Swamp Woman said:

I don't know how it will all end. I don't think they will be able to stay in California; they're going to owe too much to too many people.

I think you might be right. SecondhandCoke is now saying the Netflix deal is probably going to go belly-up this December. It sounds like Netflix is going to sue them for, basically, breach of contract.

I was trying to figure out why they haven't done something already; SC has explained it a couple of times about how difficult it is to demonstrate a breach of contract in show business, the various things the plaintiff would have to prove were due overwhelmingly solely the defendants' fault. But a big part of litigation is hoping and trying to recoup money (or else it just doesn't pay to sue), and I don't think Harry has the kind of money that they were advanced by Netflix.

If he and Meghan actually own Riven Rock, then I can see Netflix thinking they could get the property or force its sake and take any profit. But that's got to be iffy given how long the property sat on the market before the Sussexes bought it and the small amount of equity they have in it because of the short amount of time they've owned it. I just don't see how the house and Harry's dwindling inheritance is going to be enough to satisfy any judgement against them that Netflix gets.

I think the reason Netflix is proceeding so cautiously is because they already know they're going to have to follow him back to the U.K. and get someone in the family -- namely Charles -- to cover the Netflix judgement.

So, long story short, I can see Harry high-tailing it back to England like you describe and Charles essentially having to pay back the millions of Netflix money that they have blown. I think it's going to be very scandalous and, like you said, Harry is going to have to keep his head down and his nose clean for a very long time afterwards because of it. And MM is going to be long gone.

Henrietta said…
There's a piece of text floating around Twitter saying that the Cambridges' and the Sussexes' offices were split because MM stole some of Catherine's files. It also says they were banned from KP because they were deemed a security risk to the Cambridges -- something more than a few of us Nutties have been saying for a while now.

https://twitter.com/PaulineRoss75/status/1561308096017960967?t=xeQZTssjIQgzH3imdCyuvw&s=19

Haven't seen anything so far on Twitter about how credible the text might be.
SwampWoman said…
Henrietta said: So, long story short, I can see Harry high-tailing it back to England like you describe and Charles essentially having to pay back the millions of Netflix money that they have blown. I think it's going to be very scandalous and, like you said, Harry is going to have to keep his head down and his nose clean for a very long time afterwards because of it. And MM is going to be long gone.

Heh. If a creditor of one of my relatives wanted to talk to me about paying back a debt that I did not incur, they would be shown the door as soon as I could stop laughing. IMO, if Charles bails them/him out, he will be stuck on that Sussex debt treadmill forever, always running in place and getting nowhere.
DesignDoctor said…
@Henrietta
That tea is boiling hot. Thank you for sharing. Sounds like plausible behavior from other behaviors we have heard.

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