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The Podcast Release - Who is listening?

 So ... the first real podcast has been released!

Finally something concrete that people can listen to.  

What does it say?  I don't know.  

I wonder when it was taped though.  Just how current does Serena talk about her life, her plans and so on?  Can you tell this from the content or is it just vague enough not to?  I just wonder if it were taped and finally cobbled (excuse me, edited) into something useable from some time ago or was it done last month.  Does it sound like a logical conversation flow?

Is it even relatable to the current general public?  How well will it be received by said general public?  I know that you want certain demographics that are the target group(s) but would they, just by themselves, be enough to sweep this up high?  I was thinking you need them plus more (but I can and have been wrong).

People are always looking for filler so I guess we can expect it to be mentioned in most or all the articles for the upcoming charity appearances.  So, that's free advertising I suppose to help make people aware of it.

Is there something new we can all learn?  That would increase it to a broader market appeal.  Or is it all something we could get from a newspaper, magazine or biography?  

Now there can be numbers to throw up on the wall - to slice/dice/compare to other releases and get an idea for ROI (return on investment).  

And ... that will be "interesting" to watch.  

How will the response be portrayed when released?  Who will do this?  What if they don't release numbers?  Would that even be mentioned as to why no release?  Or worse, no one asks what they are to the responsible sources.

Finally - any ideas on if or what the next one might be?

Comments

abbyh said…
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Maneki Neko said…
'I was ready to turn off when I heard the soap ad story YET AGAIN': Meghan Markle listeners 'yawn' as she wheels out well-worn anecdote about campaigning against sexist soap advert when she was eleven for podcast

Latest podcast headline in the DM, just in case anyone was interested enough to listen to *...
Martha said…
Humorme…thanks for the daily mail link: easier to read than listen. Very elementary conversation, riddled with “like”…basic teenage conversation.
Teasmade said…
That worn-out detergent story has been debunked anyway! So this MUST be old, pasted together material.

Fer cryin' out loud, lady. Get a new story (lie.) Get a new (fake) friend.

Sheesh.

(I think the entire "script" is in the DM . . . )
Sandie said…
Yep, she started with the soap thing ... and goes on and on about it.

She then gets in a dig to the Catholic church and the monarchy.

I have just come across the 'fire in the nursery' when they were in South Africa. Why was there a heater on in the room in October, in the day?

As we expected, the podcast has nothing to do with archetypes at all, and little to do with stereotypes (she still does not understand the difference).

I need to gird myself to continue listening, but it is very bad.

Oh, she claims Archie had a nanny from Zimbabwe and then proceeds to completely stereotype her as a black African woman.
I saw the headlines and rolled my eyes and scrolled right past! I just can’t be bothered with this pair. They have nothing new to say, same ole fake stories, their same ole trope; all about them or him/her, griping and woe is me tripe! 🙄🥹
Este said…
The Serena interview is a big get and good opening for the podcast, even if it is generously sprinkled with premium blend Markle Word Salad. Meghan and Serena are both repped by Sunshine Sachs so this drop really should have been expected. And holding back on her birthday was well played but the stink bomb of what was told to Bower by Serena remains. This is all business and the general public knows it. Plus, the woke celebs gotta stick together, which makes me wonder when Oprah's gonna throw some love Meghan's way.

Still. Does this change the Bower bomb? It does not. I've no intention of listening to the podcast but from what's shared on Daily Mail it sounds like a real snooze fest that won't pose any threat to the Joe Rogan Experience or any other real money making podcast. Except for the ever shrinking woke audience, these podcasts are snooze and won't generate the money Meghan and Harry will need to live like the Kings of Montecito.

Oprah and Serena will be able to rest on their laurels from decades of proven performance and are moguls, who will use Meghan toward their own portfolio for as long as it makes good financial sense. Neither one of them wants to be associated with us either, the defacto racists, because we don't believe them after all their proven lies and half truths. But Meghan does not have the track record and she doesn't have the skills to make it on Hollywood or in politics, as she's getting ready to learn. And that's the key difference between her and them. One is not like the other.
snarkyatherbest said…
poor serena. she does the podcast and the only news we are hearing is that archie’s room was on fire and the mean royals wouldn’t let them cancel the tour. thing like making your story outshine your guests.

saw a good quote online. harry was smoking week and everyone thiught the place was on fire.

Humor Me said…
What stunned me was the DM reference to "her good friend" Serena Williams. Ahem, this was refuted by the Vanity Fair article author Sam kashner when he interviewed SW, who stated Meghan "is an acquaintance".(https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/974265-serena-williams-denied-meghan-markles-friendship-claim). This was no interview. Poor Serena, used again.
Theetome said…
Serena spoke to Bower?! I doubt that (truthfully. Doesn’t seem like Serena’s style).

I’m flying on Friday so I might Dl it and listen, and if I fall asleep, that will be most welcome.
snarkyatherbest said…
sandie. because back in the 90s space heater fires were a thing. i imagine something happened in her room or house growing up and she is offering this up as a new story that no one heard about or can verify. heck we dont even know who the nanny (or mom?) was and if they were all in the same house at the same time. as a mom. everyone would have known that story at the time and if my boss threatened to fire me i would let everyone know what was going on. even oprah didn’t get that “scoop”
snarkyatherbest said…
at this point she should just spend the podcasts talking about herself. we would listen for the word salad criticize and critique it spend the week trying to verify a new story. it would be a draw (but not in the way she thinks). i still think she needs to go all in about being a grifter, being an alleged yacht girl having to live with the “brainy” one in the royal family. she seriously would get a lot of attention and listeners and buzz. don’t pretend with these interview podcasts. go all in on you.
snarkyatherbest said…
Theetome. that’s risky. just think of the nightmares you could have. 😉
snarkyatherbest said…
ooh. i now figured out the archie story. mom wasn’t about to bring the lad to the TuTu meeting because gasp there was a mishap at home. Duchass went all in WE CANT CANCEL because 1) paid for the stunt baby 2) it was All Planned out!! and this helps explain why the. any and her weren’t fully connecting. she was distracted because ARCHIE ALMOST DIED still trying to explain things even now.
Karla said…
Adelaide Cottage

"Scoobie Doo was crying about the Cambridges moving out of Kensington Palace, saying their KP apartment was renovated for William and Catherine.
Posted and criticized this change a lot. He and journalist Richard Eden even exchanged barbs via twitter.

....

If Scoobie is angry, then so is Meghan. After all, Scobie is her spokesperson
...
I'm going to think this Meghan Podcast expresses her rancor over this Cambridges move taking Scoobie reaction as a starting point.
Kat said…
If a fire had happened on that tour, especially in Archie's room we would've known. It's just another one of her made up tales that she probably saw on an old sitcom.
Archie was probably with his real parents until he got brought out for a photo opportunity.
I'm just constantly amazed at the number of people that believe the things she says
Really this only got done to keep Spotify from sueing them. A podcast doesn't take months to be made--unless you're not working on it.
Karla said…
Yesterday when those photos of Meghan, captured from a video screen, were published and later deleted the sugars said it was about the launch of their podcast today. Perhaps yesterday's PR round on the podcast and then deleted was a marketing spin that failed. Now, the sugars announce that in seven days the second will come out.
Tell me I imagined this but I swear I saw a mention of a fire in the nursery while they were in the UK. Or did the precocious Archie start smoking before he was one?
abbyh said…
If that happened on the tour then why was it not even alluded to on that I'm not thriving comment?

If my kid had had that close call, I would have been holding her so tightly that paper could not have been shoved between us. And I would not have let go - even to hold DD at arm's length as if her diaper smelled.

I would not have just softly said something about not thriving and looked like I was being held at gun point. I would have been total Mama Bear about protecting MY KID! with a comment not being as protected as I thought it would be even several days later.

Wonder if BLG is on this and comparing her body language the way he did for the review of her and his body language just after she had told him she was suicidal.


It wasn't in the Oprah interview either. That's a problem because she would not have turned down that chance to make the people who make the tours run smoothly look bad (optics - remember behind the fences). It would have added fuel to the fire of needing protection as shown from way back even then.

They have them at Buckingham Palace. And, after Grenfall, I would have thought the city would have updated the building codes to better avoid something similar.

Besides, it still doesn't explain the size of the socks.
OCGal said…
I thank in advance the Nutties who have the stomach to listen to the douchass’s new podcast.

I don’t have the intestinal fortitude to listen to the delusional slop that she spews forth, so I thank everyone here who gives us reviews, choice bits, and calls out the madness so I don’t have to.
snarkyatherbest said…
WBBM. could you blame the kid. probably was setting fires to distract everyone so he could make his break and flee.

abbyh i’m with you i would be all mother lioness and my child would not leave my side. but that assumes the duchass is a mother. she loves her self only.

i am curious where she got the story. hopefully some sleuths will find its from a movie or an influencer or one of her ex friends and she just stole the story. perhaps it happened to serena and the duchass stole it for herself. we know she’s not original
Karla said…
OCG
"I thank in advance the Nutties who have the stomach to listen to the douchass’s new podcast"
Me too
...
I haven't hear and won't listen to Meghan's podcast
1) I don't understand MM's head or his supporters. To say that a nursery in Africa catches fire is to label the country down. Will the people of Africa be happy with such a low and prejudiced argument.
2) but according to Twitter, Prince Harry says hello to Serena.
But whether Harry is chasing US Senators or filming for Netflix we don't know, but we do know that he has been in Africa since mid-August and yesterday he was in Rwanda. So Meghan's podcast was already ready before Harry's trip. ( it's what I think)
3) in the second podcast, she will say that she was knocked out by a kangaroo or nearly eaten by a crocodile in Australia.
DesignDoctor said…
@OCGal
There's always the transcript printed in DM today...
Maneki Neko said…
I was scrolling past an article on the podcast in the DM when I saw a transcript of it but when I looked later it had gone. How bizarre! I copied the link straight away but it doesn't show the actual transcript any more. I had a very quick look, it sounded pedestrian and very boring. Harry inserted himself to say hello and ask Serena to visit them. I could hardly contain my excitement. Is that what a podcast is about?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11137873/Meghan-Markle-finally-releases-episode-Archetypes-podcast.html#comments
OCGal said…
@DesignDoctor, yes you’re right rather than listen to the Douchass’ contemptible podcast, I might consider reading the transcript.

But even then, I would need to first gird my loins, or as we like to say in my family “grid my lions”.

Cheers!
Este said…
I was mistaken in my reference....Serena denied friendship on Vanity Fair puff piece written by Kashner. My bad! But still, that quote is not denied, to this day.
Hikari said…
Thanks to GWAH's direction I was able to see the vaunted Zoom photos, and I responded at the end of the last thread.

To summarize: RATCHET

If this is her version of looking good for a Zoom call which she's going to release as a series of photos, those doobie lenses are sure strong AF. Maybe I need to start smoking the ganja and then I can convince myself that I'm the world's most beautiful princess, too.

Spotify needs to cut the duo swiftly loose if this is all they can come up with in nearly 2 years. Without the pomp and pageantry of being surrounded by the Royal family, these two twats have NOTHING going for them at all. There's no there there. No output or even earnest good-faith effort of output will ever be shown by these two wastoid slackers. They've got nothing to say. A podcast should have been easy, for somebody as whip-smart and hard-working, ambitious and creative as the Duckarse is constantly telling us she is. You pick a theme, round up some celebrity friend(s) and have a conversation. What's so hard about it? Yeah, some editing would happen but she's got to get something down on tape first, as it were. If she'd just done something, anything . . an hour a month, Spotify would have been satisfied.

Netflix at least has some images to work with. Spotify has given her too much autonomy. They should have forced her to do something in-studio with a team of producers to hold her accountable.

I don't care; the corporate sponsors stupid enough to give the Do-Nothing Dumbartons wagonloads of cash up front for nothing but empty promises deserve to lose their shirts. They won't, but they deserve to.

Sounds like she's come up with "Nobody's asked me if I'm OK, Part Deux' for this whinefest of entitlement. I think we're watching the Narc Collapse in progress. She looked like sh*t warmed over on that Zoom call.

I look forward to the snafu to come in September.

As for Adelaide Cottage--she *refused* that house. Why does she feel entitled to be mad if the Cambridges take the 'dump' she rejected? Because probably after rejecting AC and thinking she'd get something more grand, the Queen downgraded her further to FroggyCott which was not even habitable.

She never learns, this one. Her mental disabilities are profound. Really. She is very disturbed and incapable of adult functioning or reason and so is Harry.


If Scoobie is angry, then so is Meghan. After all, Scobie is her spokesperson
...
I'm going to think this Meghan Podcast expresses her rancor over this Cambridges move taking Scoobie reaction as a starting point.
Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2022.08.23-163843/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/meghan-markle-duchess-of-sussex-archetypes-podcast-review-7x3b6vk7h

Meghan Markle’s Archetypes podcast review — almost entirely preposterous

The first episode of the Duchess of Sussex’s series, focusing on the tennis star Serena Williams, is packed with tinkly music and vapid chat

James Marriott
Tuesday August 23 2022, 4.30pm BST, The Times
Archetypes
★☆☆☆☆
The Duchess of Sussex’s almost entirely preposterous new podcast Archetypes promises to “rip apart the boxes women have been placed into for generations”. On the evidence of the first episode — an interview with Serena Williams — it won’t really do this at all.

The podcast is a tastefully soundtracked parade of banalities, absurdities and self-aggrandising Californian platitudes. The effect of all the tinkly music and vapid conversation is to make you feel you’ve been locked in the relaxation room of a wellness spa with an unusually self-involved yoga instructor. Even those sympathetic to Meghan’s plight (and I had once thought I might be one of those people) will find that the full hour of an episode of Archetypes will put them in the mood of Paul Dacre composing an unusually grumpy Daily Mail front page.

...
Sandie said…
Times Review cont.

The podcast starts with ten lavish minutes of hackneyed introductory burbling in which Prince Harry is at one point heard in the background mumbling something about “vibes” (one of his more coherent recent public announcements). The only enjoyable bit involves Meghan seeming to have a dig at the royal family. The theme of the first episode is ambition, she says. She had never “imagined there to be a negative connotation behind the word ‘ambitious’ until I started dating my now husband”. It was only then that she learnt that “according to some . . . ambition is a terrible, terrible thing for a woman”. Presumably she can’t have been told this by the unimpeachably woke Harry. It must have been another royal . . . well, she’s not naming names.

The podcast is a tastefully soundtracked parade of banalities, absurdities and self-aggrandising Californian platitudes
The podcast is a tastefully soundtracked parade of banalities, absurdities and self-aggrandising Californian platitudes
Finally Williams is introduced. “You are such an amazing mom,” the duchess says. “You are too loved”, “you made pregnancy look so sexy”. Of Williams’s recently announced retirement from tennis, Meghan observes, “You’re choosing liberation and newness. I love that so much.”

Speaking of the negative press coverage she has received, Meghan tells Williams: “When you see things that mischaracterise me, you feel that pain.” Williams agrees that she does feel Meghan’s pain. But she is too self-aware to prove an entirely compliant guest. When the duchess tells Williams how fearless she is, Williams jovially objects that actually she’s not that fearless as she is scared of the sea. This is not quite the tone of humourless adulatory gushing Archetypes demands and the subject is rapidly changed.

Meghan suggests that Williams’s experiences of playing professional tennis while raising a child may be analogous to her own time as a member of the royal family. She recalls that on a trip to South Africa, a heater caught fire in baby Archie’s bedroom (luckily he was downstairs) but that in spite of the shock, “We had to go out and do another official engagement.”

The conversation ends with Meghan announcing that “I want to hold a space for you as a guest to define yourself”. This turns out to involve asking Williams to describe herself in three words. She is then dismissed. “Ugh, I am so deeply proud of her,” the duchess says.

The listener’s overwhelming sense is of futility and irritation. It’s been two years since Meghan and Harry signed an $18 million deal with the streaming platform Spotify. This is only the second episode they’ve produced for it (their previous effort was a slightly less grating waffle about the “power of connection”). The executives at Spotify must be wondering whether they have spent their money entirely wisely.
Magnolia Melee said…
I'm not going to give her the listener numbers. But WTF is this fire story about? It would have been headlines! And I'm sure if they wanted to come home, M and Archie certainly would have been allowed. Harry wouldn't have to cancel the rest of the tour. Also, while we don't know her personal parenting choices, but I would have thought Archie was still BF and M would want him in her bedroom for that purpose alone, and not an unfamiliar one. Travel with a baby is hard enough, much less putting them into more potentially stressful situations. I dunno, this fire story doesn't seem right.
Maneki Neko said…
Now * tells us how "I just waddled around" [when she was pregnant]. I remember her striding along when visiting New Zealand house and squatting down to leave a bunch of flowers on the pavement, all the while perched on her 5 inch stilettos. She was 7 months pregnant (officially) with a a visible bump.
Check here of she's 'waddling'.

https://youtu.be/BFJkw5DH62k
Enbrethiliel said…
I see that * is getting dragged on Royalblr. Such great new material she has unwittingly given us, the whip-smart wench!

Like @Sandie, they're calling shenanigans on the story about the heater in the nursery catching on fire. I like @snarkyatherbest's theory that something like that probably happened to * in California the 90s and she thought it would make a plausible story for South Africa in the 2010s.

Snarky is also probably right on the money that * is setting us up for a "stunt baby" reveal. ("We HAD to use a lookalike because Fauxrchie's life was in DANGER!") And I certainly hope that that is what happened because so many people loved the "Arch Meets Arch" big reveal and really believed they were looking at an actual baby sired by Harry and gestated by *. They're not going to be very sympathetic when they learn that they were lied to so openly. And they're going to demand that she explain why she set up an elaborate lie for her own supporters instead of simply leaving Fauxrchie at home . . . or you know, not allowing him to be photographed. (That the same baby appears in the "Are you okay?" documentary would damage her case further.) There's also the lovely implication that if she lied to the world with one stunt baby, she could have also done it with two . . .
Enbrethiliel said…
Also from Royalblr, here's an interesting post on why *'s use of the term "mud cloth" is hilariously ignorant:

https://www.tumblr.com/blog/view/the-empress-7/693406138383876096?source=share

In case the link doesn't work, here's the summary: Mud cloths are specific to West African culture, but * claims her nanny was from East Africa. The commenter said it was like saying a Chinese nanny was wearing an Indian sari. It's especially insulting because of the stereotype that all of Africa is the same, when there are so many different countries and distinct cultures across the continent.
Ziggy said…
Average temperature in South Africa in October is 28 degrees Celsius, so why would a heater even be on?
Enbrethiliel said…
@snarkyatherbest
ooh. i now figured out the archie story. mom wasn’t about to bring the lad to the TuTu meeting because gasp there was a mishap at home. Duchass went all in WE CANT CANCEL because 1) paid for the stunt baby 2) it was All Planned out!! and this helps explain why the. any and her weren’t fully connecting. she was distracted because ARCHIE ALMOST DIED still trying to explain things even now.

As I've said, I think this is her main reason for cooking up the space heater story -- and for bringing up the past at all.

It doesn't take a whip-smart individual to realize how risky it is for her to keep hitching her wagon to the BRF's star. Firstly, it reminds people of so much old dirt (with incriminating photos and videos to boot). Seriously, how many "normies" even remember the 2019 weirdness of seeing four different babies playing Fauxrchie in the span of a few months? We Nutties are always on the case, but the rest of the world forgets and forgives with the news cycle. Well, * has just jogged hundreds of memories. (Or maybe I give her too much credit. Do "normies" even know her podcast has finally launched after being gestated almost as long as Fauxrchie?)

Secondly, it defies logic that this supposedly "woke" individual keeps identifying as a British royal after she painted the family as racist. This move isn't as confusing as her choosing the name "Lilibet" for her alleged daughter, but ever little chink in the facade hurts.

Thirdly, it's hurting her rebranding of herself as someone to watch out for in US politics. Yes, her latest reinvention may be absolutely laughable . . . but it had a clear intention toward a pretty definite goal. We all "got" it. For her to make a u-turn now is a distraction from that.

And if the Nutties will indulge me with a list within a list, I propose that four big factors are in play. The first is that it has finally got through to her that any political aspirations she may have are dead in the water. Sometimes there's nothing left for a dog but to return to its vomit. This ties up with the second factor: Her growing tired of an incarnation two to three years into it. She has been playing Political Barbie for about that long, so she's right on schedule. Third: becoming a working royal in the BRF is still the biggest thing she has ever done and now she's realizing that she will never top it . . . so might as well keep milking it. And fourth: Someone is about to blow at least one of her Archie stories out of the water and she wants to get ahead of it.
Mel said…
Housing unit???? That beautiful thatched house is a housing unit???

How racist she is.

She implies that it's a dilapidated mud hut with no running water or electricity. It's not a Section 8 house, for Pete's sake. She is beyond disgusting.

She knew exactly what a racist thing it was that she was saying.

Mel said…
Told ya it was only a matter of time before the Balless Wonder and Mm the Liar cause an international diplomatic incident.


The BRF is probably going to have to send the Queen herself to smooth things over.
Enbrethiliel said…
Someone brought this part of the podcast to my attention:

"Everyone's in tears. Everyone's shaken. And what do we have to do? Go out and do another official engagement? I said, 'This doesn't make any sense.'"

"It doesn't make any sense" is an expression that * loves. I remember raising my eyebrows when I first heard her say it during the engagement interview. She was musing that it wouldn't have "made any sense" for her to be set up on a blind date with someone who wasn't "kind." So I noticed when she said it again about warnings from friends that she would be eviscerated in the tabloids. It "didn't make any sense" to her that she would be tabloid fodder someday because she wasn't in tabloids at that moment. (I suspect that * believes this phrase makes her seem whip-smart. What it really does is reveal that she is incapable of following other people's reasoning. In the case of her friends' advice, she made herself look extra stupid.)

Now she's saying that it "didn't make any sense" for her to do her actual job when she was shaken and crying after an alleged accident. Could she be any more out of touch? Thousands of people all over the world go through legitimate crises of all sorts and understand that it "makes sense" to go to back work as soon as they can. Especially if there are others counting on them. In the space heater story, not only did both Fauxrchie and his "nanny" escape totally unharmed, but the "housing unit" that was damaged wasn't even the Harkles' property or of any sentimental value to them. The only thing that doesn't "make any sense" is why such a relative nothingburger would be a good reason not to fulfill an obligation not just to British taxpayers but also to the citizens of another country.

* is making it out as if she had to smile and wave and pretend that everything was okay. My sweet summer child, everything WAS okay.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Ziggy
Average temperature in South Africa in October is 28 degrees Celsius, so why would a heater even be on?

There are fanfic writers who put a lot more thought into their one-shots that only a handful of fellow "shippers" will read than * put into a lie she broadcasted to the whole world.

@Mel
Told ya it was only a matter of time before the Balless Wonder and Mm the Liar cause an international diplomatic incident.

Australia may forever keep mum about the "tea spilling" incident, but the Dollars have just given the South Africans a reason to speak up. Imagine going on a diplomatic visit and then implying that your hosts put you in shabby, dangerous living quarters.

The BRF is probably going to have to send the Queen herself to smooth things over.

I'd love it, though, if they sent Catherine. With Prince Louis. You know, a real child.
Sandie said…
Another bad review:

Steerpike
Meghan’s Archetypes podcast is really all about her
23 August 2022, 4:21pm

It’s fair to speculate that the head honchos at Spotify might be wondering if their company got enough bang for its buck following its reported $25 million multi-year deal with Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
It’s been 611 days since Spotify announced the agreement. But until today, Meghan and Harry had only managed to produce one 33-minute ‘holiday special’ on their Archewell label in December 2020. You can’t rush royal content, clearly.

Never fear, Meghan has now launched ‘Archetypes’ – maybe the couple spent a year or so coming up with the brilliant name. Harry has been shoved into the background, natch, so that Meghan can concentrate on talking about herself – sorry, Mr S meant to say, ‘on the labels that try to hold women back.’ Labels don’t try to do anything, of course, they are labels. But we should never let common sense get in the way of rich women talking about female empowerment.

The first guest is Serena Williams, but tennis enthusiasts who tune in might be a bit disappointed. The show is in fact all about Meghan, since it takes 11 minutes for Serena to barely get a word in edgeways.

Meghan starts by trotting out her favourite story from her childhood. In case you have been lucky enough not hear it, let Steerpike sum up: 11-year-old Meghan was ‘furious’ when she saw a Procter & Gamble commercial that advertised its dishwashing soap solely to women, wrote to the most powerful people she could think of, including then First Lady Hillary Clinton, and managed to get the ad pulled.

Meghan calls the experience an ‘awakening to the millions of ways, big and small, that our society tries to box women in, to hold women back, to tell women who and what they should and can be.’ Steerpike was reminded of Tom Bower’s latest book, Revenge, which claims that parts of this story were not right – and that Meghan’s claims that Hilary Clinton and Proctor & Gamble wrote letters of reply were ‘invented by an adoring father.’
Markle added that she has ‘never lost touch with that reality, and in the last few years, my desire to do something about it has grown. My 11-year-old voice has also gotten a little more confident — maybe a little louder.’ She has a little chuckle in her voice, which isn’t irritating at all.

Prince Harry is allowed to talk, just. He crashes the interview at the beginning like an embarrassing dad trying to get down with the kids, or perhaps an over enthusiastic bachelor uncle, telling Serena ‘I like what you've done with your hair! That's a great vibe.’ ‘Thanks, my love,’ says Meghan, as she tunes him out.

Towards the end of what Steerpike should be polite and call an interview, Meghan discusses the importance of level-headed decision making. She says, in reference to Serena’s recent decision to retire from tennis, ‘I think both of us really know that sometimes the right decision isn’t the easiest decision. It takes a lot of counsel and support to make the choice.’ As someone who announced her departure from the British monarchy on Instagram, before discussing with the Queen first, she knows of what she speaks. It’s her truth, remember.

Sandie said…
And here is the rest of it:

On and on it goes. Steerpike must admit that he struggled to force himself to listen. Meghan asks such zingers as ‘is there anything you want to say to all the people that love you?’ Then they discuss each other’s ‘growth’ and ‘dimensionality – you can be all of those things, that’s part of being a fully fledged human being’. In conclusion, Meghan says ‘The notion of ambition comes with many judgments and nuances, especially if you’re a woman.’

It's hard to believe that it took 28 people, including eight executive producers, to make the episode – plus Meghan herself, who is also listed as an 'executive producer' in the credits. Sussex fans (apparently there still are plenty) shouldn’t get too excited about the new series. If the couple’s last Spotify podcast is anything to go by, this is all they’re going to get.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-problem-with-meghan-s-archetypes-podcast
SwampWoman said…
I wonder if she is actively attempting to destroy anything Harry is doing (without her) in Africa?
lizzie said…
Obviously the heater story is BS. Or she needs to do a better job keeping her stories straight. She now says Archie needed to be put down for a nap as soon as they got to the "housing unit" right after landing. But at the time of the trip she babbled to people they met including reporters that Archie slept for the 11-hr flight on Harry's chest. But he needed an immediate nap? If he was really sleeping that much something was definitely wrong. Like he was drugged.
Example of widely reported Archie slept on plane story:

https://www.popsugar.com/family/archie-slept-prince-harry-chest-long-flight-46671915
Faltering Sky said…
@Sandie
That Steerpike review is a scorcher and hilarious! Thanks for sharing.
Enbrethiliel said…
@SwampWoman
I wonder if she is actively attempting to destroy anything Harry is doing (without her) in Africa?

I've been out of the loop and had forgotten that he is currently over there!

It's certainly plausible. I can't remember if it was The Body Language Guy or Trevor Coult (or one of the Nutties?) who shared the tea that Harry was humiliated by the turnout at the UN for his speech. But * knew it would be really small, and up until they arrived there and Harry saw the audience with his own eyes, she hyped him up to himself so that he would have no idea. Had he known in advance how few people would be there, he wouldn't have done it. She absolutely set him up to fail that day.

So I wouldn't be surprised if she's doing it again now that he's back in Africa! Let me add that to my tangled web of reasons she is suddenly causing chaos again.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Lizzie
She now says Archie needed to be put down for a nap as soon as they got to the "housing unit" right after landing. But at the time of the trip she babbled to people they met including reporters that Archie slept for the 11-hr flight on Harry's chest. But he needed an immediate nap?

Excellent catch!

If he was really sleeping that much something was definitely wrong. Like he was drugged.

Now that you bring it up thought, I realize I wouldn't put it past her to drug a baby in her care. He'd be less trouble to her that way.
Este said…
We learn from Bower's book that Meghan got her father to pull strings to get her the Nickelodian interview. And she uses that in her podcast to sell herself as a feminist. Despicable the way she used her father all her life and then dropped him like garbage the moment he became an embarrassment.

I see Spotify has paid for some high profile names to talk to Meghan. So, this is her primo opportunity to sell those crocodile roast chicken Soho made buns to the public for consumption. Yes, I'm sure Joe Rogan is quaking in his rich white man boots over the competition!
SwampWoman said…
Enbrethiliel said: It's certainly plausible. I can't remember if it was The Body Language Guy or Trevor Coult (or one of the Nutties?) who shared the tea that Harry was humiliated by the turnout at the UN for his speech. But * knew it would be really small, and up until they arrived there and Harry saw the audience with his own eyes, she hyped him up to himself so that he would have no idea. Had he known in advance how few people would be there, he wouldn't have done it. She absolutely set him up to fail that day.

So I wouldn't be surprised if she's doing it again now that he's back in Africa! Let me add that to my tangled web of reasons she is suddenly causing chaos again.


I've noticed that * cannot stand for ANYBODY else to ever be in the spotlight. She has stomped all over her royal in-laws diplomatic trips, news conferences, and award ceremonies. She has attempted to make every balcony appearance all about her. She has belittled her birth family members. She has been cruel to her previous husband and lover. Why would she treat 6 any better?
Rebecca said…
Thank you Sandie for the Times and Steerpike reviews of Maleficent’s podcast. This is another piece from the Times by Hilary Rose:

HILARY ROSE
Meghan’s podcast: an insight about her private life? Yes, another one
A new podcast by the Duchess of Sussex? I listened to it all so that you don’t have to, says Hilary Rose


In hindsight, I should have beaten myself unconscious an hour ago with a copy of Finding Freedom. Instead, I’ve listened to 57 minutes and 28 seconds of Meghan Markle’s syrupy California drawl, while rocking back and forth and moaning softly under my breath. I forget when the Duchess of Sussex first threatened a series of podcasts about how beastly everyone is to women in general — but mostly her — but it’s been hanging over us for a long time.

Yesterday, the first Archetypes podcast finally arrived and, for all the wrong reasons, it was worth the wait. The trailer alone is a ham-fisted, expensively produced shocker. One of the people she interviews over the course of the series, sadly it doesn’t identify which, is heard trilling “I’m sipping coffee in an underground car park with a duchess!” while Meghan titters modestly in the background. There’s a lot of tittering, mostly in response to someone telling her how wonderful and inspirational she is, and shortly after she’s said much the same to them. But back to the trailer, where someone starts blathering on about the Greek origins of the word hysterical and how it’s all part of some cosmic plot to put women down. Or something. I forget what.

Meghan promises that in the podcasts she’s going to sit down with some of the “smartest, strongest, most passionate people I know”. Much like her children’s book, The Bench, the result is barely literate nonsense. We’re scarcely halfway through when the brickbats start hurtling towards the royal family — and the British. She doesn’t remember, she says, feeling any “negative connotation” to the word “ambitious”, “until I started dating my now husband and, um [laughs], apparently ambition is a terrible, terrible thing — for a woman that is, according to some.”

If you haven’t got the point yet, how about this: “You can pretend to be the perfect version like a Stepford wife and still have the exact same outcome as someone who is being authentically truly themselves. And wouldn’t you rather live with a version of yourself where you can look in the mirror at night?” Eh? Three years on from their wildly successful South Africa tour, she’s still moaning about it. This time we have a new incident: the room that baby Archie was supposed to be sleeping in caught fire. He wasn’t in it and no one was hurt.

“Everyone’s in tears, everyone’s shaken, and what did we have to do?” Meghan says. “Go out and do another official engagement. I was, like, this doesn’t make any sense . . . the focus ends up being how it looks not on how it feels.” That is as neat a summary of what the royal family does as any I’ve heard.

Finally we cut to the main event, which is billed as a conversation with Serena Williams. Actually, it’s Meghan running through her greatest hits as an empowered woman, living her authentic and best life, thanks to the man she married. She first realised that she was fabulous when she was 11, she says, and I paraphrase her only slightly. Enraged by a sexist washing-up liquid advert, she wrote complaining to the manufacturer “and would you believe it, three months later a new version of the ad appeared on TVs all around the country! I could paint this as a moment of triumph”, she adds, “and don’t get me wrong — it was.”
Rebecca said…
Her one small action, had “a ripple effect far beyond me”, which may resonate with the Palace staff who accused her of bullying — accusations she vehemently denies. Tom Bower’s recent book about Meghan, Revenge, cast doubt on the veracity of aspects of the washing-up story, and a fair few of her other stories too, but no matter. This is Meghan’s truth. The ad, she says, “changed the way I see my place in the world”. For the purposes of today’s podcast, that place appears to be somebody’s wife, seeing as the closing credit is “executive producer Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex”.

But before then, to the “conversation” with her dear, dear friend Serena Williams. If this is what counts for conversation in California then no wonder they all look bored. Women, we learn, are “oftentimes” called crazy and hysterical and divas and derided as ambitious climbers and, Meghan adds wryly, but with top notes of saddened humility, “I know a thing or two about these labels myself.” The two of them agree that they are both wonderful, and how remarkable it is that in a world which “holds women back and tells women who or what they can be”, they have nevertheless achieved so much by, respectively, being a supremely talented tennis player and winner of 23 grand slams, and marrying a prince.

We learn about “the layers that thrive within all of us”, by which I think she means “personality” and that “none of us is alone”, which will be a great comfort to many in a cost-of-living crisis. Just when you think we’re finally getting to Serena Williams — her dear, dear friend, who we can at least agree is “the greatest of all time, tennis superstar, cultural icon” — it’s back to Meghan and a story about how the nuns at her old school refused to be beholden to the patriarchy and instead chose to live, you guessed it, authentically.

Obviously Prince Harry is shoehorned in, because otherwise what’s the point, and he tells the greatest female tennis player of all time “I like what you’ve done with your hair! That’s a great vibe!” No words can describe my feelings at that point. “H” also apparently spent an hour in the garden in Montecito helping Serena with her decision to “evolve” away from being a supreme athlete and tennis superstar, and no doubt his insights on that front proved invaluable. A professor of equity and gender pops up to say that when men have families they get a pay rise but women face a backlash. Meghan talks about something called “dimensionality” and other aspects of “being a fully fledged” human being.

“You made pregnancy look sooo sexy,” Meghan gushes, “I was just so tired.”

“You were under a lot of stress,” Serena says.

“It’s true,” Meghan says.

Just when you think, “dear God, will it never end”, it does, with Meghan’s distillation of the previous hour. It seems to be an allegory of all the many ways in which she, a fierce, strong, brave woman was wronged and traduced in the ten minutes she lived in the UK and was fêted as the best thing to happen to the royal family in years. Her podcast is pure, narcissistic gibberish and next week she’s “in conversation” with Mariah Carey. Shoot me now.
Rebecca said…
Sorry if this is too much. From the Telegraph:

Meghan’s podcast is just another way she can talk about herself
Her new Archetypes series shows there is no anecdote that the Duchess can not hijack with one of her own
By Celia Walden


Meghan Markle has the perfect, smooth podcast voice. So much so that you keep expecting her to purr out some kind of self-care-style slogan: “Do something magical for you, today.”

On the long-awaited first episode of her exclusive Archetypes series with Spotify, it’s Serena Williams who has been invited on to “make some magic” – and she’s the perfect person to kick off the show. After all, the tennis ace is a great friend of Meghan’s who is in the news, having just announced her plans to retire two weeks ago. She’s also famously feisty – and I’m using that word in its most positive, undertone-free sense. In the promotional guff the Duchess of Sussex has described Archetypes as a podcast “where we dissect, explore, and subvert the labels that try to hold women back”.

It’s hard to imagine anything holding Serena back, and the admissions the 40-year-old makes about the fear she has experienced throughout her career and the trials of motherhood are fascinating for that reason. But the podcast is an interview with this inspirational sporting figure in name only. If the rest of the season is anything like the premiere, what we’re really going to be listening into week after week is Meghan interviewing herself.

Maybe the former actress doesn’t realise she’s doing this. Or maybe the plan was always to invite a series of foils on to debate cultural and societal unfairnesses that Meghan has (coincidentally) also been a victim of. Certainly, this week’s offering, “The Misconception of Ambition”, allows for maximum navel-gazing.

As an introduction, Meghan treats us to an exquisitely self-congratulatory (and already widely publicised) anecdote about how, as an 11-year-old, she had been incensed enough by a dishwasher soap advert with sexist language to write to Procter & Gamble and urge them to change the word “women” to “people”. “Would you believe it?” she asks – still awestruck by her own trailblazing childhood self – she succeeded. “Three months later a new version of the ad appeared on TVs around the country.”

Since then, she concludes with a self-deprecating laugh, “my 11-year-old voice has gotten a little more confident … maybe a little louder.”

It has had to, you understand. Because back then Meghan hadn’t realised how many noxious forces would be trying to hold her back, keep her down, stick her in a series of little boxes. The Duchess uses the words “us”, and “women” but make no mistake: we’re still firmly on her and “a culture that, um,” there’s a wry smile in her voice, “doesn’t exactly prize ambitious black women”.

Even the anecdote about how Meghan first met her supposed interviewee – at a 2010 Super Bowl party – is somehow turned into self-aggrandisement. Spotting Serena heading towards someone, Meghan wondered who on earth could have sparked this special woman’s interest, and – oh, my goodness! – it was her.

Twenty minutes into the hour-long podcast (and just after the Duke of Sussex has dutifully popped his head around the door and urged these two gal pals to “have fun!”) one is already starting to feel rather sorry for Serena. The tennis ace has only just got started on how tough public life can be, when Meghan points out how upsetting it must also have been for Serena “when you have to see things that are mischaracterising of me, and you experience behind closed doors what has been painful for me.”
Rebecca said…
Every woman has had a girlfriend like Meghan: the one who turns every confidence back to them and hijacks every distressing anecdote with one of their own – only theirs is longer drawn-out, more distressing. There’s a humdinger in this podcast that I’ll leave it to you to enjoy. Although to be fair, the Duchess of Sussex does throw her interviewee the occasional bone. “I’ve felt it,” she says on one particular stigma. “And it’s certainly been a big part of Serena’s story as well.”

To Meghan’s credit, she smooths these jarring moments over beautifully, tying up each point with artfully worded self-help-isms. “Sometimes the right decision isn’t the easiest decision.” “That’s growth, that’s dimensionality.” “To be ambitious: it’s a beautiful thing.”

She may now be a small fish in a big pond, but I’m guessing the podcast could be a success Stateside. Meghan’s not just got the purr but the contacts and the cast-iron confidence to make it one.

Next week, she’s back with Mariah Carey – and much, much more Meghan.
Magatha Mistie said…

Inflammatory

Rinse, repeat
gargle then spit
Regurgitating
same old sh*t
As for the fire
megthane kept hush-hush
Hot air, self combustion
fanning the flames
and burning her tush…

SwampWoman said…
Rebecca said:
She may now be a small fish in a big pond, but I’m guessing the podcast could be a success Stateside. Meghan’s not just got the purr but the contacts and the cast-iron confidence to make it one.


I'm not sure which market her podcasts are directed towards. Women who feel bitter and overlooked? It is pretty well known that she has been a real witch toward anybody that has had the misfortune of working for and with her. Successful women that have achieved fame on their own merit? They despise her because she hasn't achieved *anything* on her own but has used men for everything. Younger women who feel that they are being unfairly held back because of their race or sex? They're probably too busy working to listen to a whinefest by a rich b*tch.

I can only assume that the podcast is for women that are too lazy to work toward what they want, but are waiting for it to be given to them because otherwise the person not throwing money and jewelry their way is sexist, racist, or some other shaming ist.
DesignDoctor said…
A comment on DM
There was something “waddling side-to-side” when she walked, but it was not her.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Sandie: Thanks for the re-postings.
DesignDoctor said…
Seen on Instagram:
Do not seek revenge.
The rotten fruits will fall all by themselves!
snarkyatherbest said…
Enbrethiliel. oh good point about the wife building up then sabotaging the husband. she probably gets bored so has to play with his mind for fun. she has to be more successful (or is it ambitious 😉) i would love to hear the Mariah Carey podcast. i bet they both wear tiaras
Sandie said…
What the heck is a mud cloth, I thought with bemusement. Here I am in Southern Africa, completely bewildered. Then I Googled it. Oh. Yes, I am very familiar with the design - very popular for rugs (I just did not know it was from Mali!). Not made the traditional way here, but the geometric designs in earthy colours are very popular, but not used in the way she describes. (They remind me of the throw rugs she has as part of her 'decor'.) Black women in Southern Africa (where Zimbabwe is) do carry babies on their back and use a soft blanket or traditional cloth to do so, but mud cloth it is not.

And wasn't Archie a bit young for a snack? She claims she was still breastfeeding at the time, but we all think he was being bottle fed. He was definitely not 'snacking'.

She comes across as an ignorant Westerner full of racist assumptions about Africa and Africans. And why does she lie about everything?

They stayed with the British High Commissioner, so she was actually making a dig at the Brits. They put her up in a 'housing unit' in Cape Town. (I have actually been to the British High Commissioner's home in Cape Town. I was with a colleague who wanted to drop something off for the housekeeper, who was a friend. I am as mystified as everyone else about the 'housing unit'!)

The woman is certifiably crazy!
Maneki Neko said…
Many thanks to @Sandie and @Rebecca for the articles you posted. After this lackluster first podcast, will a second one be even worse?

@SwampWoman and @Enbrethiliel

I wonder if she is actively attempting to destroy anything Harry is doing (without her) in Africa?
Harry was humiliated by the turnout at the UN for his speech. But * knew it would be really small . . . Had he known in advance how few people would be there, he wouldn't have done it. She absolutely set him up to fail that day.

You might well be right, I fear. In which case, how does she explain the look of lurve every time they're in public? No wonder H looked p¡$$ed off at the UN when she grabbed his hand (and arm). Has the penny finally dropped?

Maneki Neko said…
There's a good article in the DM about the podcast. I suppose we're going to be inundated with similar ones.

Giggling, gushing - and old grievances: Duchess of Sussex's Spotify podcast promised to explore sexist

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11139339/BEL-MOONEY-says-episode-Meghans-Spotify-podcast-sounded-warning-bells-start.html
Sandie said…
Did she confirm the tea incident in Australia?

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"People blow things out of proportion and call women "divas" just because we have standards and maybe a tea cup gets tipped over! But why is it such a terrible, terrible thing to have ideas you want done, just because of spilt tea? That doesn't make sense..."
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Do you think the hapless one realizes that he is married to a deranged women who is a compulsive liar?
Sandie said…
Is the following that I came across another 'recollections may vary' moment?

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(I’ll point out here that, according to the Telegraph, “The suggestion that her former aides forced the Duchess to work against her will is likely to cause consternation at the palace, with a source familiar with the tour questioning her precise recollection of events.”)
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https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/meghan-markles-new-podcast-is-a-sadly-a-bit-of-a-dud/news-story/0724973f2977485e1f725a8845c1a78d
Magatha Mistie said…

Liar Liar

What doesn’t make sense
Is the shite from ‘hortense
Passive aggression
Archetypical ambition
Dimensionality? What?
Giggling and gushing
She’s past her first flushing
She appears to have lost
her own plot
Recollections may vary
‘tis mistress contrary
But I doubt they’d need heat
when it’s hot…

Magatha Mistie said…

Chimera

Meh’s ambition
Statement mission
To shag a guy
on top position
Once she’d crawled up
swept his flue
She turned and said
“Oh haz, feck you”

lizzie said…
@Sandie wrote

"And wasn't Archie a bit young for a snack? She claims she was still breastfeeding at the time, but we all think he was being bottle fed. He was definitely not 'snacking'."

I read the transcript to mean the nanny wanted a snack for herself. So rather than putting the baby to bed for a much-needed nap ("much-needed" just after he'd slept 11 straight hours on the flight, of course) the "wonderful" nanny decided she'd rather eat first. How fortunate.

I still want to know why a space heater would have been needed in SA in the daytime in Sept. And who turned it on? I also find it hard to believe there were no smoke detectors.

I flat out don't believe the story. And if Serena is such a good friend, why had MM never told her Archie "almost died" on the 2019 tour? Wonder if she told Jessica? Or anyone in the gang of 5? Doria?
Sandie said…
@lizzie
Oh, the nanny went to get a snack! She was probably hoping to find some local treats in the kitchen ... you know that yen one gets for 'food from home'. (Zimbabweans and South Africans are neighbours and have a lot in common.)

What is a space heater? The only kind of heater I can think of that may cause a fire (never heard of it ever happening, but could if something flammable is draped over it or if there is faulty wiring or an overloaded plug) is an electric bar heater - like the Queen uses. Actually, a portable gas heater could also cause a fire if something is draped over it. I suppose it must happen but I just have never known it to.
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The podcast is a huge flop that has exposed her as a liar again. Do you think she will: throw a tantrum; buy 'popularity'; ignore reality; have a new victim story - BRF, British tabloids, racists ... take your pick as to who she will blame?
Sandie said…
@Magatha Mistie
I love your 'Liar Liar' poem!
Maneki Neko said…
I too thought the snack was for the nanny, not the baby. In any case why carry a baby to the kitchen (?), why not put him down and then get a snack?

The heater on fire (the room in some articles) is an unnecessary detail to add to her tales of woe. Liars add lots of details to make their story more believable so this should not come as a surprise.

Liars are extremely generous when it comes to giving you details. They’re trying to con you into believing them by overloading you with details.

This shows they’ve put a lot of thought into what they’re going to say and probably even rehearsed it in their head.

Honest people give more succinct answers, because they’re telling the truth and they don’t have to think about it.


https://www.resourcefulmanager.com/lying/#:~:text=Liars%20are%20extremely%20generous%20when,rehearsed%20it%20in%20their%20head.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11141097/Meghan-Markle-Spotify-podcast-Royal-sources-not-recall-fire-baby-Archies-hotel-room.html

Daily Mail did some digging, and royal sources say there was no fire. A heater started smoking and was quickly dealt with. The article also says that as senior Royals, the choice to continue with engagements would have been theirs to make. The article speaks of a hotel room, and I assume that is a mistake.
Observant One said…
@Swamp Woman said:
I can only assume that the podcast is for women that are too lazy to work toward what they want, but are waiting for it to be given to them because otherwise the person not throwing money and jewelry their way is sexist, racist, or some other shaming ist.

Bingo! This statement perfectly sums up * and entitled women like her. They have no idea what actual work is. Most of us just get on with our jobs and are grateful for any words of gratitude or financial reward that comes our way. Ugh, the entitlement is strong in this one.

Karla said…
Magatha 👏👏👏❤️
Archetypical ambition
...

Please does anyone know anything about this Prince William accident, it seems to be old and it's hard to find material from that time.

"So Meghan was forced to attend an official engagement after this incident, just as Diana was forced to attend an official engagement when William was taken to hospital with a fractured skull - oh, wait .."
Karla said…
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Girl with a Hat said…
@Observant One,

not only do they not know what work is, they believe that everyone is equally competent to do any job. For example, you don't know what the capital of the USA is? It doesn't matter, you can become President.
lizzie said…
@Karla,

William had a fracture and concussion at 8. Diana stayed with him but made Charles keep his planned schedule of attending an opera and later used that against him.

https://apnews.com/article/69de2f9d8b6202614493b12a0dc31eb0
snarkyatherbest said…

just saw this on twitter from FoxNews. oh they roast the duchass but good. enjoy!!

https://twitter.com/jimmyfailla/status/1562431303684788225?s=21&t=SbnR_IC9h_z4VSFEhx4ENg
snarkyatherbest said…
Lizzie karla. good points it’s all about being just like Diana and the evil anonymous grey suits that control everything.
Sandie said…
https://youtu.be/OWENvxifZTE

A very long review from River. Right near the end he said something interesting: maybe Archie said the word crocodile because he heard the term 'crocodile tears'!
Karla said…
@Lizzie
Thank you!
You are precious here
Este said…
Meghan Markle The Movie: Architect of her Own Magnificent Destruction coming to the Lifetime channel this fall!

There's already pushback from South Africa about her fire in the nursery whingefest and reason trotted out for being so work shy, after all. Oh the trauma of living through a fire that maybe didn't really happen while no one was in the room. Meghan and Harry were graciously accommodated at the British High Commissioner Residence, a veritable mansion where dignitaries stay and security is sky high. Well, she referred to THAT PLACE on her podcast talk to Serena as a HOUSING UNIT and then goes on to say a fire was started by space heater. Talk about trashing your hosts. Is it racist though if those hosts are darker skinned than you or does that matter? I think I read on a Daily Mail article that this place doesn't do space heaters which, if true, makes me wonder if Meghan and Harry didn't bring that space heater with them and then try to pin this all on Harry's family.

Meghan opens her mouth and the lies and half truths come tumbling out. So maybe this podcast really is a good thing. Give a fool enough rope...
snarkyatherbest said…
daily mail is citing royal sources as not remembering that there was a fire in their hotel room. did the mail get it wrong or was that a bit of tea that she or they weren’t staying with the kid or where they claimed. 😉
Sandie said…

"Meghan, it goes without saying, is viewed by many, particularly here in Britain following her fall out with the royal family, as a perfect fit for the archetype of the woman who will stop at nothing to get to where she believes she should be and who is prepared ruthlessly to tread over anything and anyone who stands in her path.

Harry, too, is increasingly viewed as being a fully signed up member of the archetype of the terminally dim and entitled noble, too thick to realise that his wife controls him – a character that has popped up repeatedly in literature for centuries. "

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/help-i-ve-been-seduced-by-meghan-markle-s-podcast
SwampWoman said…
@snarkyatherbest, I just watched that Fox News segment on Twitter, and it was hilariously vicious! Harry's lack of balls (referred to as ginger nards) were discussed. They said Spotify should film it in front of a live audience and charge the audience to leave. And those weren't even the best parts.

Thank you so much for posting this! I needed the cheering up!
Enbrethiliel said…
@Sandie
A heater started smoking and was quickly dealt with. The article also says that as senior Royals, the choice to continue with engagements would have been theirs to make.

She certainly exercised the right to make that choice when she left the market in Fiji much earlier than expected. And over much less!

Nevertheless, for her to say that doing her job after a non-crisis has passed and everyone is 100% okay and safe "doesn't make any sense" . . . well . . . it doesn't make any sense! :-P
Enbrethiliel said…
@SwampWoman
I've noticed that * cannot stand for ANYBODY else to ever be in the spotlight.

This reminds me of that interview she had soon after moving back to California, in which the interviewer innocently remarked: "You're not the only powerful woman." *'s jaw visibly tightened and her chin jutted up. She was not happy even to share the spotlight with others, even though no one else was even named.
Karla said…
snarkyatherbest said...
"Lizzie karla. good points it’s all about being just like Diana and the evil anonymous grey suits that control everything."
Yes!
After reading the article that @Lizzie posted here, I understood some comments about this. Many claim it was an excavation at Prince Charles. In the case of TB revenge book, this was evident when talking about the word "ambition" and showing the world his sugary friendship with Serena.
...
In the Adelaide Cottage case the sugars, flocking like rabid bees, led by Scoobie thought it was unfair for William to get a new home and H&M to have to pay for his.
I do not know I do not know. Maybe the sugars are telling us the real story.
...

The question remains: H&M couldn't afford Montecito's house with the millions they received from Netflix, Spotify and Random House?
Such a move seems MM resentful of not having her house in Montecito paid for with money from the royal coffers.
I do not know, but "maybe" the sugars are telling us the real story of MM's resentments against the Monarchy.
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SA

Kemi OwonibiMum
Autor South Africa

"A fire incident in a government facility hosting foreign dignitaries is a security issue, aŕšõñ until proven otherwise. One must be truly self-absorbed to not realise the diplomatic implications of even remotely suggesting that your host country attempted to sēt your baby on firē.
https://twitter.com/KemiOwonibi/status/1562422264918085633?s=20&t=g0507qyEhOp2ZHktM6hHXQ
....

Exactly! MM has no diplomatic tact. I think I read somewhere that she worked at the Argentine Embassy and I think she didn't learn anything.
"You'll likely admire this soon-to-be royal even more once you learn that Meghan Markle worked at the U.S. Embassy in Buenos Aires"
https://www.elitedaily.com/p/meghan-markle-worked-at-the-us-embassy-in-buenos-aires-so-shes-international-affairs-expert-7629888
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SwampWoman said…
Meghan is so full of herself and bitter because she *doesn't* have hundreds of millions of dollars. Instead, she should be joyful about what she *does* have. What is she doing again that is worth all of the money that she thinks she is entitled to?
Hikari said…
Well, these reviews are excoriatingly entertaining for Mugsy's latest project in self-aggrandizement. I expected no less from her--though in the promos for Archetypes, a '12-part series' is promised. So far, for some lavish payment of a couple of million dollars, Spotify so far has seen less than 90 minutes of 'content' from the Dimebag Duchess. The 30-minute 'holiday' drivel fest featuring 'Archie' wishing everyone a Happy New Year is not part of Archtypes. It's taken 18 months to get one risible not-quite hour out of her for her much-vaunted (at least a year now) new 'series'. Shall we take bets that Dimebag will actually get around to tackling another measly hour for her contract anytime soon? Unless (unlikely) she's been beavering away on this and has all 12 episodes done . . I think we've seen what she's got in her. The reviews are horrid so she will throw a strop and refuse to do any more.

Re. the weird 'housing unit'/hotel' story . . Could it be possible that she and HazNowt were thrown out of the High Commission in SA or their invitation to stay was rescinded and they were put in a hotel instead? After the debacle that was the Australia tour the year prior, I have to think that the grapevine amongst the Commonwealth diplomatic community was working overtime. Did the Governor-General in Australia advise his equal number in South Africa what they were in for? Or perhaps the child 'Archie' was staying with his 'Nanny'/Biomom in separate accomodation and there was a faulty heater in that room? I look for a tiny kernel of something she says to be true but embellished with so much larded on fake detail or contradiction, it's impossible to tell which is which.

Dimebag more or less admitted that tea was spilt in Australia but you know, when ambitious women do not get their 'ideas' properly met and double-quick time too, accidents happen.

The Narc collapse is underway; the Kraken is stirring--can you feel it?
Sandie said…
I came across something interesting in the Bower book. Supposedly the hapless one wanted more than the 1.5 million he was getting from his father (I.e. wanted the allocation increased because it just was not enough). The family suggested that the actress continue acting if they needed more money. The duo were hugely upset. Were the royal family forced to accept her as a working royal? Was the initial plan not to have her as a working royal? It would make sense to me if they wanted her to wait to get her UK citizenship first, but there may have been other reasons.

Does anyone remember this from the Bower book? How did you interpret it?
@Enbrethiliel
@Swamp Woman

You're dead right - they just can't stand not being the centre of attention - if they're involved in somebody else's event, they'll ruin it for the one rightfully at the centre, whether it's taking attention from a bride, an artist at their exhibition or even the departed at a funeral.

- George Dyer's suicide - just before Francis Bacon's most important exhibition :

`George Dyer committed suicide on 24 October 1971,.. two days before the opening of Bacon's triumphant and career-making retrospective at the Grand Palais. Dyer, then 37, alcoholic, deeply insecure and suffering severe and long-term depression, took an overdose of drink and barbiturates in a room at the Paris hotel shared with Bacon during a brief period of reconciliation following years of bitter recrimination.'

at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portrait_of_George_Dyer_Talking
SwampWoman said…
Nothing about * and Ginger Nards makes any sense to me. It is as though a couple of new part-time cashiers decided that they knew more about business and diplomacy than people with a lifetime of experience in running international corporations. The craziest part to me is that anybody gives them any credence.
snarkyatherbest said…
Perhaps the mrs is worried that it would come out that she tried to get out of tour engagements because like the australia tour she wanted a spa day so she has to created a distraction instead just wanting to get a facial and gossip with the pedicurist. i only consider backing out due to LIFE ALTERING CIRCUMSTANCES.

oh and notice in the intro clip she mentioned ambition is criticized as being a climber. hmmmm. i am more than certain people have said that about her and to her.
snarkyatherbest said…
SwampWoman. i needed that clip too. it’s been the first time in a week i’ve laughed out loud. maybe i should watch it on a loop
Maneki Neko said…
@Karla

William was hit on the head by a golf club in 1991. I thought Harry hit him (by accident) but it was a friend.
I remember William's accident:

In 1991, Prince William suffered a depressed skull fracture when a friend at Ludgrove prep school accidentally hit him in the forehead with a golf club. The then-nine-year-old royal's injury required surgery and 24 stitches

Read More: https://www.nickiswift.com/220453/tragic-details-about-prince-william/?utm_campaign=clip

Charles and Diana were scheduled to go to a theatre (opera, IIRC) probably a Gala performance, not sure which theatre. Charles dashed to the hospital, leaving Diana to carry on alone. Can't recall if he got the message before they arrived at theatre or whether he left the performance.

Those on Diana's side criticised him for leaving her `on her own' to complete the engagement - they seem to think he shouldn't have gone to the hospital. To me, it seemed the best compromise - think of the stink if she hadn't gone to the theatre or had left during the performance. Charles just couldn't win - the critics seemed to think the lad had something trivial, like a superficial bruise. Surgery may have been necessary to remove a haematoma inside the skull, not just a couple of dozen stitches. We were spared the details.
Whoops, was it the other way round? Charles stayed and Diana went to the theatre? Certainly, opera was Charles's thing.

Was * hoping she'd be let off the Marines `do' despite planning to wear that ghastly dress?



Karla said…
Maneki Neko.❤️
Thank you! I didn't know this story.

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@Sandie
Yes! This information was brought to light around the time of Harry's wedding and Andrew Morton also confirmed this. I don't know about the money in question, but it can be checked from the duchy of Cornwall's reports for the years following Harry's marriage.
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Queen Elizabeth Reportedly Told Meghan Markle She Could Keep Acting
By Emily Lee

Royal biographer Andrew Morton claims Queen Elizabeth told Meghan Markle she would be able to continue her acting career if she wanted once she stepped away from her royal duties. Meghan and Prince Harry were reportedly given “the opportunity to go wherever they pleased” after they shared their plans to step back from royal life early last year.

“They were given a degree of latitude,” Morton said. “They were told ‘here are your first-class tickets, pick which country you want to go to, we’re going to make you youth ambassadors for the Commonwealth.' In fairness to the royal family, in fairness to the Queen, she did give them that opportunity to go wherever they pleased."

Morton also suggests Meghan would've been able to continue acting after marrying Prince Harry back in 2018, as well. “They did say to Meghan if you don’t want to embrace royal duties full time please be our guest and continue your acting career. Those opportunities were open to her," Morton claims. Meghan, however, chose to leave her starring role on the long-running legal drama Suits after she and Harry went public with their romance.

“I think neither of them gave it the thought they should have done,” Morton continued. “I think that famous warning from Prince William of ‘steady on, think about what you’re doing,' that Harry bridled at, was probably meant more with affection."

Morton believes William knew it would be a challenging adjustment for Meghan after watching his own wife, Kate Middleton, face her own challenges when she joined the family years earlier. “I think William understood more than Harry that becoming a member of the royal family is a tough gig. You think about Catherine Middleton,” Morton explained. “She’s British, she’s grown up with the traditions, obviously she was a commoner but she has a very sound and strong family. Meghan didn’t have any of that. She’s American, she didn’t have a clue about the royal family.”

In her recent interview with Oprah Winfrey, Meghan admitted to entering her brief tenure as royal "naively" and that she hadn't done much research on her husband before they were married"
https://www.iheart.com/content/2021-04-05-queen-elizabeth-reportedly-told-meghan-markle-she-could-keep-acting/
Maneki Neko said…
Comment I. The DM:


OnlyRoyalDramaPlease, Washington DC, United States, 20 minutes ago

I havent listened to the episode (and dont plan to) but apparently Serena Williams talked about an occasion where she was up all night with her little daughter who had a broken wrist, and then had to go play a competitive tennis match. Presumably Meghan wanted to one-up her so exaggerated what is now reported to be a smoking heater incident (the heater was unplugged and Archie was not in the room).
Another one:
The only thing on fire is her pants.
snarkyatherbest said…
Maneki. it prob was harry since we know how petulant he can be 😉
We Brits don't turn a hair at there being a kind of ginger biscuit here called `Ginger Nuts' even if others think it strange.


My apologies, Lizzie, I missed your post about what really happened with regard to Wm's accident. AP (Associated Press) is one of the 2 consistently reliable press agencies, Reuters is the other.

Yahoo of course sees it all very differently -

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/meghan-markle-sparks-huge-reaction-094243211.html
abbyh said…
RE: portable gas heaters

Not just a issue if something is draped over them but carbon monoxide which is why these ones are often banned by city ordinance.

Saw BLG and his comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLnb3KuCZ4A

He mentioned that she was a working member of the BRF for 72 days. The cost of just the wedding (not the other dresses/shoes, the pregnancy stuff, travel for the various tours, yada) was $40.7 million. That's over a half million per day as a working royal. jaw dropping to me.

And it does appear that this was a fairly current taped piece.
The Yahoo report quotes * as referring to `this housing unit where we're staying'.

In my mind, that conjures up the sort of `pod', placed in a car park, of the kind that was devised for the homeless in Cornwall, during lockdown, or modified shipping containers which can make excellent homes.

Or perhaps a post-war prefab which the residents loved, having lost their homes to the bombs:

https://theculturetrip.com/europe/united-kingdom/articles/palaces-of-the-people-britains-post-war-prefabs/
Hikari said…
* has been sawing away at that tired chestnut--"I gave up my career, my family, everything for love"--for 5 years now.

What family? She'd ghosted her dad and the half-siblings she pretended not to have met. ("I don't know those people." Photos proving otherwise be damned. As for Doria . . Twat had been living in Canada more or less full-time since 2011 and the visits back to L.A. were sporadic, if any. I don't think there was a relationship with the maternal unit until her darker-skinned mom with African features became useful as a branding tool.

What career? Moving to London was a face-saving measure to cover the reality that she'd been let go from "Suits". Her contract was up. Season 7 was in the can . . . featuring a wedding between "Rachel Zane" and "Mike", the lawyer she'd been banging in various creative office locations since the first season. Patrick Adams had announced his departure from the series *before* Twat got engaged, so the idea to marry their characters off and have them shag off into the sunset together was in response to Adams leaving. With "Mike" gone, there was no reason for "Rachel" to still be hanging around the office and I bet that pissed Real Life Rachel off no end. Without dating Harry, * would have still been out of a job. Her lease on her apartment was through the studio so she'd have had to vacate as well.

Maybe the whole relationship with Harry was concocted just so Twat wouldn't have to pay her own rent on another apartment.
Este said…

Part 1 of 2:
@Barkjack is reporting that BenGlow's wedding was a drama filled PR stunt. I'm gonna tie this into Meghan Markle in my next post. Just want you to read whole thing.

Recently J-Lo and Ben Affleck held another ceremony (publicity event) in Georgia officiated by Jay Shetty, in addition to the attendance of several Hollywood stars.

Photo: Ben Affleck following his three-day wedding celebration with Jennifer Lopez / BACKGRID

Here's the wild behind the scenes details we got from a guest!

Last time (Bennifer 1.0) these two almost got to the altar (for real) things exploded when JLo found out Ben hooked up at his bachelor party. Broken hearted by Ben she called it off a day before. Then and now, JLo has zero tolerance for his boozing and partying ways. They both have agreed to this 'big-biz coupling' but this time JLO wasn't going to let Ben have any fun. During the 3 day affair designed to thoroughly wear him down and make partying almost impossible for him, he was given little room to breathe. What's more, Jlo tasked Ben's Mother with the unfortunate job of monitoring his actions at all times. This led to major tension and a big blowup with Ben who wanted to enjoy himself rather than play nice for the cameras, this culminated in an explosive argument whereby Affleck's mother had a severe anxiety attack and had to be rushed to hospital. He agreed to put the work in til the final hours where he loosened up big time.

J Lo knows Ben will use most any excuse in the world to celebrate.

Sources say she was a major "bride-zilla" at the event and has been the one working with their PR firms and photo agencies to set up professional photographs, broker fashion deals with stylists and mags who report on her style, promotion, magazine exposure and BACKGRID pap shots. Jennifer being so controlling over this arrangement has caused Ben to feel trapped and upset about what he's gotten himself into. You will see a ton of coverage on what she wore, what was served, all the details, and new publicity pushes. Over saturation on social media is indicative of her PR firm using the classic tactic of employing several people who have upward of 5o social media accounts to mass-post positive publicity pieces.

Jennifer does not want the above BACKGRID photo circulating, they tried to oversaturate with other more flattering photos.

Truth is Ben Affleck despises intrusion into his life. He tries at all costs to protect his kids and self from prying paps and the reality of this is becoming so difficult for him. He jet out of there the moment he could joining Matt Damon on a trip OUT. "F This" he reportedly said at one point during the day.

What's more, during the event, guests said he was "fatigued" by the pressure of this charade and was keen to BOLT as soon as possible from under JLos watchful thumb. She cannot stand his drinking, gambling and cavorting and he can't stand the confinement!

https://theresalongofanpagerome.blogspot.com/2022/08/j-lo-ben-major-stress-fest.html
Enbrethiliel said…
Quoted by @Maneki:

The only thing on fire is her pants.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's also interesting that she one-upped Serena's story like that.

I don't follow Mariah Carey's career, so I don't know any of her stories about being a mother. But it wouldn't surprise me if there were a reasonably well-known story and * suddenly had something new to top it.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Abby

I'm now listening to BLG's video I listened to Meghan's podcast SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaQstdOVzy4

May I suggest it to all the Nutties who don't already have an alternate way of listening to the podcast? Spotify tracks streams, so it would help rather than hinder her to listen to it there. I'm sure BLG, on his "Royal Rogue" channel, will be doing this for all the episodes, taking that bullet for the rest of us.
Enbrethiliel said…
Re:
Queen Elizabeth Reportedly Told Meghan Markle She Could Keep Acting

Thanks for sharing the article, @Karla!

This is the first time I'm getting wind of this. Around the time of the wedding, the spin was that * was making such a big sacrifice to marry into the BRF: She had to give up her country, her religion, her career, and even her blog. Was this really the case, though, or was she already setting herself up as a big, fat victim? Do any of the Nutties remember any definite statement from BP in 2018 saying that * had to give up working in TV and movies?
Este said…
Okay, first off, Barkjack has legit broken lots of big stories including Meghan's first pregnancy. So this seems to be a more legit gossip site than CDAN.

So, BenGlow is a PR relationship and a sham marriage. They are just friends who are doing this to revive their careers due to Hollywood's built in obsolescence factor by 50 if not 40. They wanna be moguls like Jay Z and Beyonce. Forget the PR phony baloney here, neither Leah Remini nor Casey Affleck bothered to attend because it's just business and they have better things to do than to ship phony.

Meghan's Mouthpiece from Toronto is shipping BenGlow as real. I just had to take a quick peek at those articles from her website..a whole boat load for BenGlow....but I contained myself to a couple more recent on the wedding extravaganza that just happened. One of the articles was about the supposed "one absence" from the wedding...Leah Remini? No, Casey Affleck. Casey being disgraced doesn't count and is safe to cover. But Leah? JLo's best friend? What, she couldn't make it? Maybe this was addressed in one of the other puff pieces but it would by just like The Mouthpiece to not report and pretend it didn't happen. But we all know BenGlow is a pathetic spectacle of true love. Doesn't stop The Mouthpiece from shipping it as real. The only problem she had with the wedding was the location because it's not woke.

So this wedding brought to you by our proud sponsors, Netflix and Charmin Enjoy the Go will be shipped as real too.

Is anyone buying this garbage tho? BenGlow was tacky, non?
Karla said…
Enbretiliel ❤️

Meghan Markle says she's giving up acting, ready for new role.
"Meghan Markle will be giving up her acting career as she prepares to marry into the royal family, and the bride-to-be says she's OK with that.

In an interview with the BBC on Monday, Markle, who sat with fiancé Prince Harry, said, "I don't see it as giving anything up. I just see it as a change. It's a new chapter.
She said she feels satisfied with her work on the long-running TV series "Suits." Markle said, "Keep in mind I've been working on my show for seven years, so we're very, very fortunate to have that kind of longevity on a series and once we hit the 100th episode mark, I felt, 'I've ticked this box.'" The show hit its 100th episode in August.

Markle turned to Harry and said, "I'm really proud to work on a team with you."

Harry explained that he made sure Markle knew early on that she would have to take on many responsibilities if the two ended up together.
know that I'm in love with this girl and I hope that she's in love with me. We still have to sit down on the sofa and I still had to have some pretty frank conversations with her and said what you're letting yourself in for -- it's a big deal," he explained. "It's not easy for anybody, but I know that she chooses me and I choose her and whatever we have to tackle together or individually will always be us together as a team, and I think she's capable of anything."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meghan-markle-says-shes-giving-up-acting-ready-for-new-role/

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Next Podcast: Mariah Carey
...
1)Mariah & family issues.

"Mariah Carey reveals her sister tried to sell her to a pimp and offered her drugs at age 12: "I felt like a stranger in my family"

2) Mariah is releasing a children’s book this year.

'It was empowering to turn my childhood turmoil into a classic modern fairy tale filled with boundless wonder and hope,” concluded the star of hits like “Without You.”

3)Mariah wrote abt Di in her memoir a few years ago. How Di’s wedding dress inspired her own & how she met Di in the 90s.
....

OMG!
Will MM be talking about
mega, resounding success on The Bench and how has it strengthened her your mute journey?
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Please may she have Amber Heard as a guest. It would be fascinating to have two narcissists together.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Este: Thanks for the BenGlow info.
Sandie said…
Just a thought: it was and is not her ambition that people have a problem with; it is what her ambitions were and weren't (not compatible with representing the monarchy and the British people at huge expense), and how she went about achieving those ambitions (being rude, dishonest, whining a lot, and being blindly self-centered at the expense of others).

I remember the good old days of the real women's liberation movement (not the whiny woke stuff of today). There were some women who acted on the belief that to be equal to men, a woman had to take on and imitate the worst traits of men, and some took every opportunity to disparage and put-down men, simply because they were men. They were awful, and they gave the women's fight for equal opportunities and equal pay a really bad name!
DesignDoctor said…
From Twitter:
So, with today’s revelations about the shocking fire, and the duos cruel mistreatment following. A fire which appears to have been news to attending Reporters, local press, even bestie Serena on the podcast.
My question is - was it news to Harry too? 😉🤔🔥
Enbrethiliel said…
@Este quoting Official Theresa Longo Fanpage:

"Truth is Ben Affleck despises intrusion into his life. He tries at all costs to protect his kids and self from prying paps and the reality of this is becoming so difficult for him. He jet out of there the moment he could joining Matt Damon on a trip OUT. "F This" he reportedly said at one point during the day."

The tea I got was that J.Lo has been itching for a "happy families" photo in which her children and Ben's children are shown frolicking together as a blissful blended unit . . . but that Jennifer Garner immediately shut down any suggestion of exploiting her and Ben's children for PR. Yet J.Lo kept trying -- and she did manage to get her "blended family" papped unloading sacks of food for a food drive. Unfortunately for her, the photographer wasn't able to get all five children together in any one shot.

I haven't heard of any similar stunts since then, so I'm guessing that after those food drive photos came out, Garner really laid down the law.

Or maybe, as the blog post suggests, Ben also had a big say in protecting his kids from then on. But my money is on Mama Bear Garner rather than on the guy who is neck deep in a publicity stunt with one of the most attention-hungry women in the world.

I also can't forget the story shared by one of the paparazzi in an interview that @Charade once linked. He said that Ben got angry at him out for invading Ben's privacy . . . but then walked away as slowly as possible, so that the pap could get really good photos. Even if Ben doesn't like it, he plays the game.

Was his post-divorce PR really so bad that he had to do this with J.Lo? Before they got back together, I remember him getting a giant (ugly) tattoo of a phoenix on his back, as if to say that he had risen from the ashes of a bad marriage. That was a shabby thing to do to an ex-wife who has never said a bad word about him . . . not to mention a rotten thing to do to his own body.

Anyway, the parallels between Ben and Harry are clear. Both were feeling that they needed to grab more publicity before the next generation completely overshadowed them. Both decided to do it by marrying controversial, publicity-thirsty women. Both are now letting those women control their lives. Both are more miserable than they want to let on.
Sandie said…
I got the impression that the family did not expect her to be a working royal. They seemed to envisage her fitting into the family like Anne's husband or the spouse of Princess Alexandra. She would have appeared on the balcony when the Queen gathers her family, and sometimes accompanied husband to a gala event, and appeared at Ascot etc. But they expected her to continue with her career, as Chelsea or Cressida would have done if he had married either of them. She insisted that she become a fully funded working royal from even before the marriage. I think his family's hearts sank because the public would complain about the huge extra expense, but they bit the bullet and tried to make the most of it. I just wonder if they also realized from early in that she would not be suitable in the role of serving the Crown and the British people (not even a British citizen or even a citizen if the Commonwealth). According to Bower, Diana's family saw right through her from the start. A lot of people think William did as well.

@Este
Thanks for the tea from Barkjack. What's with these older woman with at least one marriage under their belt having a major extravagant wedding with extra-long veil and blindingly white dress? Maybe I am old-fashioned, but I think it is tasteless!
This article from DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11142523/MEGHAN-MCCAIN-Does-Spotify-believe-Meghans-podcast-worth-giant-price-tag.html

Meghan McCain is on point!
Just a snippet of the Meghan McCain article:

"I am no fan of Prince Harry or Duchess Meghan Markle. In fact, I find them insufferable.

Harry has chosen to live here because it is too untenable and hostile for him to live in the United Kingdom. Yet he chooses to trash my beloved country because not all of us simply bend the knee to a Prince or his woke politics.

I’ve written before of his tone deaf criticism of the United States, our constitution, our right to free speech, and the second amendment. But it must be a harsh reality to him that his political opinion means nothing here. That most Americans are more likely to listen to what a Midwestern college football coach has to say about the state of America than him.

I assure you, the majority of us just don't care, no matter how hard he or his wife tries."
lizzie said…
So Meghan jumped to the front of the line to adopt another dog?

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-08-24/meghan-prince-harry-adopt-beagle-rescued-from-virginia-plant

Article says she "had a rescued beagle." Wonder if Guy is no more?
Sandie said…
The next podcast, with Mariah Carey, is entitled divas. (Carey has a song entitled Diva ... how original!)

Definition:
"Diva is the Latin word for a goddess. It has often been used to refer to a celebrated woman of outstanding talent in the world of opera, theatre, cinema, fashion and popular music. If referring to an actress, the meaning of diva is closely related to that of prima donna. Diva can also refer to a woman, especially one in show business, with a reputation for being temperamental or demanding."

By the way, in my opinion, the term is not necessarily negative when describing a temperamental or demanding person. A hugely talented person, such as Elton John, can be described as a diva, but people want to work with the person any way because they are exceptionally talented and successful because of their work.

Any guess as to what the rest of the misnamed archetypes she will cover? Is there a list somewhere?

Hikari said…
Do any of the Nutties remember any definite statement from BP in 2018 saying that * had to give up working in TV and movies?

Quite the opposite, I think. The Queen offered, encouraged her even, to continue acting after engagement to Harry and after marriage as an alternative to being a full-time working Royal. A number of events including the Australia tour had already been intricately planned and solidified in the calendar before the marriage. She insisted on going and made a last-minute scramble to find things for her to attend to justify her going a headache for the courtiers. Then once there, she begged off a bunch of joint events with Harry AND solo outings planned specifically for her citing 'her pregnancy'. (Translation: She and Messica had spa treatments.)

The only stipulation the Queen made was giving up her personal social media accounts. Prior to ever meeting Haz though, * had been charged with tax evasion due to underreporting revenue from the online shop portion of the Tig (she lost and had to pay up.) The Tig already had its issues . . and after the judgement against her she would've had a hard time paying the agency she had running it for her. * did not even run her own blog.

As for her employment/housing in Canada, she'd been let go from her Suits contract as her character (and that of Patrick J. Adams) had been written out of the show. The impetus for that was Adams leaving for another job, NOT * getting engaged to Harry--though that only solidified the producers' decision to sever her contract after 7 seasons. The apartment she had was leased through the studio as part of her remuneration package for the show and she didn't own that. She'd already cut bait with Cory. So . . when she arrived in London in September 2017, she was both unemployed and homeless.

As for BenGlow 2.0 . . what the heck did he expect to happen? He's been around this tired dance floor before, 20 years ago. Nothing has changed. JLo is still a controlling Narc Type A ballbuster and Ben's still a slovenly addict with no interest in getting sober. Based on his recent appearance with her, where he looks slightly cleaner but still under the influence, I figured she'd given up on trying to force him to give up all his habits.

I give it one year, tops.
snarkyatherbest said…
so i keep seeing the pic of a black and white shot of the mrs in a tank top. why is it she always looks like she has crazy eyes. she looks desperate or pleading. is that the best pic they could take? does she like the crazy eye look. i would love to see what she sees when she approves this stuff. and don’t get me started on the hair/wig fly aways
SwampWoman said…
Este said: So, BenGlow is a PR relationship and a sham marriage. They are just friends who are doing this to revive their careers due to Hollywood's built in obsolescence factor by 50 if not 40. They wanna be moguls like Jay Z and Beyonce. Forget the PR phony baloney here, neither Leah Remini nor Casey Affleck bothered to attend because it's just business and they have better things to do than to ship phony.

Well, that will be interesting. Maybe * can have her on her podcast to compare the price of their weddings! (JLo won on gowns...)
Karla said…
Rumours from Twitter

Next week: ( Mariah Carey) archetypas, difficult family relationships. They will drone on about how done by they are as far as family is concerned & why you should cut problematic family off.
Another juicy tidbit about royal work will come to light .She is the most wronged person on earth

https://twitter.com/MissAkuaAfriyie/status/1562272456177582080?s=20&t=axGLf95vAtQ0o0dV0wbGbQ

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might be onto something - Meghan using the podcasts & guest choices to talk about herself.

Indy100 Has other guests as Mindy Karling, Margaret Choo & Amanda Seales.

Topics might feature - Fertility. Privacy. Suicide. Online hate.

Sound familiar….❓

https://twitter.com/UnlikelyBot/status/1562268288297701376?s=20&t=NpARAfquUtABWtlQSY0Vrg
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Prince Harry’s memoir may be moved back over concerns about ‘truth bombs’: source
By Sara NathanAugust 24, 2022 | 11:00am

part of the text

"After months of anticipation, sources now say that Prince Harry's memoir may be moved from late 2022 to 2023.
Prince Harry’s hotly anticipated memoir may be pushed back to 2023, according to publishing sources.

The renegade prince’s book was due to be released in time for the holidays — the hottest time of the year for book sales — and would have gone head to head with Michelle Obama’s latest book, “The Light We Carry: Overcoming in Uncertain Times,” out November 15.
Now, one source in the know said that “things are up in the air” for the pub date.

Industry chatter has been heating up as Harry’s book is still not available on Amazon or elsewhere for all-important pre-sales.

From a bookseller perspective, pre-order numbers are a good early indicator of a book’s success and can lead to retailers increasing their initial orders.

While another publishing source confirmed there had been talk of a November publication date, they added: “I have heard that Harry has some truth bombs in his book that he is debating on whether to include or not.

An insider said the publication date for the book is "up in the air."
Harry is said to be considering dropping some "truth bombs" — that could rock his father, Prince Charles, and brother, Prince William — in the book, which may explain the delay.

https://pagesix.com/2022/08/24/prince-harrys-memoir-may-be-moved-back-to-2023/
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Kisses to everyone
Este said…
I feel a case of the sads about Mariah because I'm a big fan but Mariah isn't just ultimate diva. I always found her diva ways a cute put-on but her inevitable narcissism that comes from success at that level. And on that level she'll find a like soul in Meghan. How could she not? But what gets me a little roiled, if I'm being honest, is knowing Mariah will talk all kinds of crazy sh*t on that podcast because that's what Mariah does and I'm sad that Meghan gets to record and be a part of that that glorious moment. At least there's one thing we can be sure of, this interview, will be 90+% Mariah talking because my dahling nobody interrupts the Butterfly and nobody really exists when she's talking.

I think Ben and Harry are two haunted men who sold their soul for manna. JLo at least had a bonafide A list dual threat career but Meghan just married into the one role where her audition of a roasted crocodile rock chicken won the day! At least with Ben, he had a great career and he's clearly got multiple addiction issues.

But the reason I brought them up is the PR wedding the similarity in coverage by The Mouthpiece showing us that facts don't matter and really that celebrities like Meghan Markle and JLo only exist for them to sell as celebrities and use them to advance their own woke agenda. It matters not one whit to this crowd whether Meghan abuses her staff or bullied a child. Nor does it matter that JLo is as fake and transparent as Kim K, her friend who also couldn't make it to the wedding extravaganza!
Maneki Neko said…
Re *'s acting career

Andrew Morton addressed an aspect of Meghan and Prince Harry's bombshell Oprah Winfrey interview during an appearance on the Royally Obsessed podcast.

Harry described how in the early days of their relationship his family discussed her continuing her acting career because there was not enough money to pay for her.

However, Morton had a very different take on the same claim—suggesting it was a positive offer from Elizabeth to help her maintain her freedom.

Morton said: "They were given a degree of latitude.

"They were told 'here are your first-class tickets, pick a country you want to go to, we're going to make you youth ambassadors for the Commonwealth.'"
. . .
"And also, they did say to Meghan if you don't want to embrace royal duties full time please be our guest and continue your acting career.
(Newsweek)

Note "there was not enough money to pay for her." It seems there was plenty, what with the wedding extravaganza and her wardrobe. The truth is there was no acting career, Suits had come to an end and there were no offers.


Enbrethiliel said…
@Karla

Thanks for the article about * "giving up" her acting career. It's ambiguous enough that it seems as if she had to do it in order to marry in. And of course it would benefit her for people to think that.

@Hikari
The Queen offered, encouraged her even, to continue acting after engagement to Harry and after marriage as an alternative to being a full-time working Royal.

That's a pretty gracious offer! Though I'm afraid I find it as ill-advised as her giving Harry permission to marry * in the first place. What if * had chosen to do a movie critical of monarchy . . . or taken a role with an explicit sex scene? (We know she liked playing the hot bombshell.) Would the Queen have also insisted on veto power over potential projects? Or did she believe * would have the prudence and self-control to choose wisely?

The only stipulation the Queen made was giving up her personal social media accounts.

Unwittingly setting up the "silence" vs. "silenced" dichotomy three years later!
Enbrethiliel said…
@DesignDoctor
A fire which appears to have been news to attending Reporters, local press, even bestie Serena on the podcast.

I laughed aloud at the Body Language Guy's exaggerated shocked face when * said: "I can't believe we haven't talked about this!" You can be sure that if it had indeed happened, the world would have heard all about it much, much earlier.

But * probably made the story up on the spot.

My question is - was it news to Harry too?

This reminds me of his pointed "Oh, you're pregnant? Is it mine?" joke. I doubt she consults him about anything.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Este
At least there's one thing we can be sure of, this interview, will be 90+% Mariah talking because my dahling nobody interrupts the Butterfly and nobody really exists when she's talking.

Those who listened to the first episode say that Serena barely got a word in edgewise. (I wonder, though, if she did talk much more than that, but * had Serena's contributions cut.)

I'd love to hear the reverse happening: Mariah talking so much that * has to fight to remind us all that she exists, too! (Heck, if that's what happens, I might even listen to the whole thing and give * another number for her streaming stats!) But we all know the relationship * has with the truth. If she has to edit really heavily and rerecord her word salad after her guest is gone, she will do it.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Karla
OMG!
Will MM be talking about
mega, resounding success on The Bench and how has it strengthened her your mute journey?


She will absolutely use her "best-selling book" to pull rank on Mariah.

Maybe she'll brag that Heidi Klum "absolutely loved" her inscribed copy.
Sandie said…
@Karla
Thanks for the info.

Gosh, she is ticking all the boxes of how she was wronged by an institution and country that gave her everything in these podcasts! And she seems to be lashing out at every rumour/story on social media. Never lets go of anything that one!

There have been so many rumours about fertility issues. Both kids look like Markles to me (and there is red hair in that family), but we will have to wait until they are older because kids do change. She conveniently fell pregnant very quickly and I found that surprising. Diana was a spring chicken when she got married; not so the duchess. But maybe it is that easy for a woman in her mid-30s to fall pregnant almost immediately after years of being 'active' but never having children.

She was in such a rush to grab as much as she could in a most undignified way.
Blue Dragon said…
Came across this comment on the www.order-order.com website and it just resonated with me

Mad Dog Earle
Meghan Markle (always the victim) who lives in a 9 bed 16 bathroom mansion in California set in 7 acres of grounds, talking about her 'trauma' recalling the pressure Serena Williams experienced when winning millions of dollars playing tennis (link below).


Meanwhile, on this side of the pond, a 9-year-old girl was shot dead in Liverpool yesterday. The girl's mother was also shot, though survived. I bet this woman could teach Markle a thing or two about real trauma.



https://www.gbnews.uk/news/meghan-markle-says-she-feels-traumatised-recalling-serena-williams-play-tennis-after-watching-pressure/356512




Blue Dragon said…
PS the UK has far less guns than the USA so the Liverpool shooting is thankfully not a regular occurance
Sandie said…
Rumour: the heater was bought from the UK with them. That would explain why it started smoking ... electrical appliances from one country are often not suitable in another. But, no, I just checked and you don't need an adaptor because UK and South Africa are compatible.
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As for not enough money for her ... it is possible that Charles had projects he wanted to complete for the Duchy and had to compromise that to make money available for the wife. I do think the royal family may have been worried about the increased 'strain' on the sovereign grant.

Just my opinion, but I think British politeness was misunderstood by some. I think the generous 'offer' was a politely worded way of saying they did not want her as a full-time working royal for many reasons, and I think the prince knew and was furious that no one fell to their knees to welcome the second coming of Diana. Besides, Catherine and William were given time to ease themselves gently into being working royals. It just made no sense to throw the American newcomer into being a full-time working royal immediately.
NeutralObserver said…
Wow, the podcast. What did poor Serena Williams do to deserve this? I know she's a mega-millionaire, but I don't think any of us can imagine how grindingly hard it is to get to & stay at the top of women's tennis. Serena didn't go to nice little private schools, or a college like Northwestern at her parents' expense. Everything she has, she's earned herself. Does Serena think that Ms. 6's meteoric rise in social status, earned by shagging & bagging a prince, makes Ms. 6 Serena's equal? If she does, that's very sad, & just wrong. Ms. 6 conversationally elbowed her way past the Queen of Tennis with the same blithe aggression that she elbowed past the Queen of England getting into one of the royal cars.

There's no point in discussing what is actual fact in Ms.6's logorrheic performance. Anything she 'feels' is 'true.' I've read that her sugars are calling the dubious 'fire' story an 'assassination attempt' on Archie's life instigated by Prince William, never mind that since William is, you know, one of the heirs, he has no reason to do any such thing, unlike his treacherous younger sibling & his malignant other half. That is so crazy it's actually funny, but it's sad that some people are so empty between the ears.

I just hope thin-skinned, petulant, only-yes-men-need-apply-to-work-for-me, bags-of-cash Charles doesn't keep enabling the toxic pair in any way. His monarchy might be very short lived, & Wills might get to become a gentleman farmer at some point.
lizzie said…
I remember reading somewhere that the RF said MM should continue to work before H&M were officially engaged when H asked for paid security to be given to her in Canada. After all, people tried to break into her house. (Right.) Supposedly the RF said there was"no money to pay for M." So I had thought that all happened before they were married. Maybe that wasn't true but I'm am sure I read that.

This link about Harry's comments on Oprah seem to suggest a conversation before the marriage too (although what I remember reading was pre-Oprah by alot.)

https://www.insider.com/meghan-harry-interview-royals-wanted-markle-keep-acting-support-financially-2021-3

But the timeline is not totally clear. He says on Oprah "That was right at the beginning, when she wasn't going to get security, when members of my family were suggesting that she carries on acting, because there was not enough money to pay for her, and all this sort of stuff."

If as Bowers claims, Harry was asking for more than his usual 1.5 mil per year- especially if he demanded close to twice as much since it would be for 2 people instead of 1-- I could see the Charles telling H there's not enough Duchy money to provide that if that's what M requires. And I can see Harry being a jerk about it. I can also imagine H claiming he can only cut costs so much since Meghan was used to earning & spending millions before meeting him (right) So the answer was to say, "well ok, she's free to go for it!" And that turns into "the RF wouldn't support my wife and thought she should support me" from Harry.
Este said…
someone from SaintMeghanMarkle shared this:

Out of curiosity, I spent a few minutes searching google for connections between Her Nibs guests and Sunshine Sachs. I'm sure to no one's surprise, it was easy to find the connections. These are the four guests that I have seen as being featured on upcoming episodes. If I had the whole list, I'm sure it would have the same outcome.

I have listed each persons name, along with a link that shows their association. Typically the SS reference is noted at the bottom of the page, as the publicist contact for the event.

It's no surprise to me how fake Hollywood "friends" are, but the bullshit a member of BRF pulling this same stunt is new and disturbing. Nonetheless, I find the output so far to be completely bland and boring.


Mariah Carey is possibly repped by SS. Their contact email is at bottom of this page: https://www.robinhood.org/robin-hood-heroes-of-new-york/


Mindy Khaling at SS sponsored event here: https://www.producedbyconference.com/producers-guild-of-america-sessions-additional-speakers/

Margaret Cho at SS sponsored event here: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/liam-payne-eva-longoria-austin-mahone-jesse-mccartney-tamron-hall-billie-jean-king-saweetie-margaret-cho-radhika-jones-hailie-sahar-andrew-yang-brooke-baldwin-lauren-akins-hunter-mcgrady-tyson-beckford-jaime-king-a-301047565.html

So this is why Meghan and Harry are paying SS the big bucks.
Girl with a Hat said…
some tea about Twit over at Dlisted

It was about Harry banging locals (in Afghanistan) but being nasty. He was allegedly whisked back to UK to avoid a scandal under the guise of his life being in danger.

and

there have been hushed rumors around London for years about Harry's orientation along with numerous stories of him abusing prostitues - one who need surgery due to her injuries. He has always been an A1 piece of shit, palace PR machine did a great job. Now he is adrift in the world and his true colors are shining thru.

https://dlisted.com/2022/08/24/prince-harrys-memoir-may-get-pushed-back-to-2023-over-concerns-about-truth-bombs/
HappyDays said…
Perhaps Meghan should change the name of her podcast to “One Sunshine Sachs Client Interviews Another Sunshine Sachs Client”.
Martha said…
Stellar article by Meghan McCain lover on Skippy. It was posted in the daily mail, I think. Really terrific article, IMO
SwampWoman said…
It is such a cozy little incestuous arrangement where the people that all use the same PR firm are each others guests. How convenient. I didn't know about it. Guess it's a good thing I don't watch such things, or I would be really disillusioned.

Ralph L said…
BenGlow? More like Bengay.

(Topical pain reliever for old people's aches and pains, if it isn't an international brand).
A spew of vomit from He-who-looks-like-a-puppet-from-`Thunderbirds':

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/meghan-markle-podcast-voice-back-buckingham-palace-worried-142343255.html

The last sentence needs correction:

`For `brought', read `bought'.
re Fire at the `housing unit'

Was there a misunderstanding of the word `residence' - that is, the correct term was `Residence', the official term for where the Governor General lives, not any old shack or bender as implied by `residence'/place of abode.

Something was lost in translation from UK to US usage.
Maneki Neko said…
H's book publication might be delayed until next year. Here is a comment from the DM:

getting tired now, Bournemouth , United Kingdom, 7 minutes ago

Needs to add the Chapter about the inferno in Archie's bedroom which Meghan had to rush into with no fear for her own safety to rescue him. Harry does not recollect that happening but Meghan said "it will make us money" so add it to the book.
Enbrethiliel said…
@NeutralObserver
What did poor Serena Williams do to deserve this?

I've been wondering for some time why someone with Serena's clout and "f--- you money" keeps coming back to dance to the Dollars' drumbeat.

Now this is something that doesn't make any sense. ;-P
Sandie said…
https://thecrownsofbritain.com/2022/08/24/double-bill-royal-round-up-24th-august/

This blogger hardly ever posts. I find her hilarious, and was delighted to see there is a new post from her on the Royals.
NeutralObserver said…
Won't be listening to the podcast, I can't stand *'s nasal pretend sexy voice, but from the excerpts which have been posted, I'm astonished at how much she sounds like a dim-witted Valley Girl. No wonder she flunked the US Foreign Service exam. She sounds like a typical ignorant white matron in the condescending way she mentions the vast & complex continent of Africa. What a poor reflection on the education she received.

I think Tom Bower unwittingly gave * material for her podcast. She's going to refute every anecdote in Bower's book that drove her crazy, one by one. Attention is her narcotic.

In a way, her podcast is a triumph for her, as her failure to produce one had become quite a joke. I think many of us were hoping the 6s would quietly slink away into obscurity. No such luck.
Sandie said…
https://mobile.twitter.com/home

A GB News rant that really is completely on the mark.
NeutralObserver said…
@Enbrethiliel, You & me both. What did Serena get from that big waste of her time & reputation?
Sandie said…
Supposedly #MeghanMarkleisaLiar is/was trending in Ghana, South Africa, Australia, UK, Ireland, USA. She has achieved worldwide fame!
NeutralObserver said…
@Sandie, Thank you for posting thecrownsofbritain link. She really is very funny. I loved the gif of the #6 like mom poring over her computer screen while a baby doll burns near by. It just was so Megs!
Sandie said…
Archetypes Meghan Word Count:
"I"- exactly 200, more than any other word including "and" & "the"
"Me"- 74, 9th most used word, after only connecting words like "of" and "that"
As a podcast supposedly about guests & their stories... astounding.

https://mobile.twitter.com/home

I found this and giggled ... not surprising at all!

We did a post ages ago discussing what she could do that would be suitable for her and be a success. I actually had ideas for suggestions back then, but now think that she actually has no positive abilities or talents that she could use to make money. On the contrary, I now think she is a dangerously harmful person despite the amusement she provides.
Sandie said…
Update! PERU joins U.K, Ireland, U.S.A, Canada, Australia, Ghana, S. Africa in trending #MeghanMarkleisaLiar
Girl with a Hat said…
from twitter

Pilot Hardy
@pilothardy
Archetypes Meghan Word Count:
"I"- exactly 200, more than any other word including "and" & "the"
"Me"- 74, 9th most used word, after only connecting words like "of" and "that"
As a podcast supposedly about guests & their stories... astounding.
Girl with a Hat said…
I have an idea for their Netflix show:

Send Twit and Twat to Africa to live for a few months and watch their interactions and attitudes towards Africans.
snarkyatherbest said…
so the use of the word “housing unit” for the high commissioner’s house. so something happened there and i don’t mean a fire. she was so derogatory in her description. makes you wonder if she had a dressing down for something she did ( abuse staff, partying with drugs and friend at the residence). we know she likes revenge. to claim “ housing unit” and a fire in the “ child’s room” is made to make them or someone specifically to look bad. now if someone from there criticizes her it looks like they are being petty because ARCHIE ALMOST DIED. ANY AMBITIOUS MOTHER WOULD BE DISTRAUGHT AFTER THAT!
Girl with a Hat said…
from twitter

Baroness Bruck
@BaronessBruck
A man fired 2 blank shots at the Prince of Wales while in a ceremony on Australia Day in Sydney in 1994 😐

Prince Charles made no comment about the incident at the time & the Australian Day celebrations continued 🤷🏻‍♀️

#NervesOfSteel
#CoolAsACucumber


for video:

https://twitter.com/BaronessBruck/status/1562641659883442176
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/CoutureRoyals/status/1373263271986364417

Princess Anne discusses her kidnapping attempt on a talk show.
NeutralObserver said…
@Girl with a Hat, I remember that incident. One of the few times I've actually admired Charles. His royal training stood him well. Anne's toughness is well documented. She's Philip's child through & through.
So glad to see @thecrownsofbritain.com back - though sadly her twitter accounts have been suspended.
Hikari said…
I remember that incident. One of the few times I've actually admired Charles. His royal training stood him well. Anne's toughness is well documented. She's Philip's child through & through.

Charles gets a worse rap than he deserves, I think. Leaving off the conduct toward Diana during their marriage, which is a separate issue, his qualities of character and courage are often underestimated. Due to the clashes with his legendarily hard-a$$ed Greatest Gen father, Charles's softer qualities of personality were and still are ridiculed. But the boy had steelier mettle than it appeared. The hazing he received at Gordonstoun was legendary . . international knowledge, too, to add to the humiliation. Chas was a chubby rather non-athletic child but he transformed himself whilst at G. into a sportsman. Maybe Philip was onto something there, but I still think Charles would be a happier person today if he'd been allowed to attend Eton. His naval posting to the Caribbean may have been rather a cushy one but he finished his basic training and was given a command, which is more than can be said for little brother Ed, who dropped out of the Royal Marines, not being able to cut it. PP was amazingly understanding toward his youngest's abysmal failure at the service, which must have rankled Charles no end.

Pulled from his beloved Cambridge dramatic society to go to Wales for a term in order to learn Welsh, he immersed himself (easier to do, having no friends) and gave an investiture address and speaking tour of Wales at the tender age of 20 that was a received triumph.

As a young man when he assumed more speaking engagements around his mother's realms, protests and threats against his life were commonplace. The heir to the crown was advised to stay well away from windows in certain areas.

On the day he had to walk behind the funeral cortege of his late ex-wife, he confided that he feared he'd be shot along the route because he felt like the most hated man in Britain, which he probably was. He still got out there and walked, though it's amazing really that some violence like that didn't kick off.

Charles is more introspective and softer-hearted than either of his parents but he's absorbed their lessons of duty and the shew must go on. At the funeral for his father, he was the most visibly moved of all the siblings, despite the oft-antagonistic nature of their father/son relationship. Charles wears his heart on his sleeve, as much as a Royal can. I do not consider his younger son to be worthy of the label Royal. Harry is a disgrace. I believe Harry's behavior eats at Charles, because all this rancor and upset H has stirred up, and the damage to the monarchy and Charles's own reputation is like the ghost of Diana coming home to roost. It does not seem that Charles will ever know much peace of mind in this life . . . the current situation is largely of his own creation, though, which makes it even worse.
Maneki Neko said…
@Girl with a Hat

I remember the attempt kidnap on Princess Anne in 1974. This is how she dealt with it:
Ball, who was planning to kidnap the Princess for a £2 million ransom, tried to make Anne get out of the car. In a moment of impressive calm, she famously replied: ‘Not bloody likely’.
https://www.tatler.com/article/princess-annes-bodyguard-remembers-1974-kidnap-attempt

“Please, come out,” said Ball to Anne. “You’ve got to come.”


As the two men struggled over Anne, her dress ripped, splitting down the back. Instead of panicking, she had what she later called “a very irritating conversation” with her potential kidnapper.

“I kept saying I didn’t want to get out of the car, and I was not going to get out of the car,” she told police.

In response to one of Ball’s pleas, Princess Anne retorted, “Bloody likely.”

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/bloody-attempt-kidnap-british-princess-180950202/
Megsy could take some lessons in composure and sang-froid. Funnily enough, it doesn't seem to have affected her mental health.
Stephanie_123 said…
So, H has been traveling in Africa without the family for approximately a week and is now possibly solo in Colorado for polo.

Is he distancing himself? Has * put him out? It’s curious. * never let him out of her grasp (at least not that the public could see.) Since the UN embarrassment, H seems to be very separate.

Wasn’t he concerned with being a hands-on Dad as compared to his Father who was always away working?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11144537/Back-high-horse-Prince-Harry-set-play-annual-polo-tournament.html
NeutralObserver said…
@Hikari, You're certainly entitled to your opinion about Charles, but I think his craven capitulation to the 6s at the very beginning of this fiasco, created the big mess the RF now finds itself in. That Charles lacks innate leadership qualities seems to be a widely held opinion, that, combined with his selfishness isn't very attractive.
Re Princess Anne wedding- also bear in mind that she was only 23 at the time of the kidnap attempt (and had been married less than 4 months), hardly an experience tough nut like*.

BLG throws light on the `housing unit' and how she appropriated something that happened over 20 years ago for her narrative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Xhw2umuKY&t=231s

I'm surprised she's never referred to KP as a `House of Multiple Occupation' ie a rooming house where all occupants have to use the same door & share loo, bathroom & kitchen.
In the 1841 census, my gt.grandfather was recorded as being the sole occupant and head of a household of one person. There were at least 20 others at the same address, round the back of Covent Garden.. I imagine he was in a cabmen's doss house, where a single bed counted as a `housing unit'.

Worse, it could have been a place on a rope for a `tuppenny hangover' or a place on a bench with nothing to lean on.

See https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/Two-Penny-Hangover/

Presumably, that's how the term `hangover' came about - after a night on the rope one felt as if one had had a skinful the night before
Hikari said…
@Neutral,

Well, I did say that the current situation is largely of Charles's own making, and I do hold him culpable for a lot of this mess, though H is a legal adult of nearly 40 years of age and has to bear some responsibility regardless of the extent of his mental handicaps.

Harry and his father have in common having chosen poorly for a (first) wife. Diana had some good qualities which are entirely missing in Harry's wife, but Diana contributed half the genetics, half the parenting or lack thereof and half the marital discord/disfunction that produced Harry. I don't think any of us would wish William un-born, but unfortunately for him (and us, and not least--Harry) William seems to have gotten any qualities of character which are admirable from either of his parents and his upbringing in the system in which he was born and raised. Harry got all the leftovers. Too bad he was ever born, is my way of thinking now, though I used to like him back when the Royal snow-job as to H's likeability was in progress.

We really can't know from our perspective as outsiders to what degree Charles has "capitulated", craven or otherwise, to the Sussexes and if he still is supporting them financially. It was upfront at the time of Megxit that the couple would be generously supported for the term of one year to allow them to get set up in their new lives of 'financial independence'. I had issues with that, maybe not the principle itself but the amounts. H certainly feels entitled to keep living a lavish princely lifestyle even though he claimed to want to 'step away to have a normal life'. H can never and will never be 'normal'. We've got our suspicions that the craven couple is still getting handouts from the Bank of Dad . . but can you dredge up any compassion for Charles as a father? He's only got the two boys--one, his heir, who is doing the Firm credit, along with his well-chosen spouse--and the other, the biggest cult failure and non-starter in the Royal family since great-Uncle Edward threw away his crown for his American adventuress. I'm sure Charles is continuing to throw good money after bad in the (vain) hopes that his youngest son will repent of his actions and do *something* of which his father can be proud.

Hikari said…
They say you can't pick your parents; that's true, but you can't pick your children, either, and H has been a source of heartache and disappointment for Charles since he was born. Having received what he deemed heartless, distant treatment from his own father and other parental unit, it'd be quite understandable to me if Charles didn't feel able to toss H to the wolves completely. Charles would know, in a way we would not either, just how much of a certifiable mental deficient H is. We've got an individual here who displays no capacity for mature considered adult thought or behavior. Yes, he's grown up spoilt and he's an addict, which both play their parts. But if H literally has the mental abilities of a 12-year-old, and the vocational abilities to match (basically none) which seems very likely, he's going to be a burden to his father, and the Crown and the taxpayers in multiple countries for the rest of his life.

It's a big festering mess all right. Charles has to balance being a dad with being the future sovereign . . and he is for the moment still a man under authority himself. Harry's his kid but the Queen remains the official last word on this situation. Maybe she shouldn't be but, it appears she is. We don't know to what extent the hands of the rest of the Firm, including Charles are tied viz. what they *want* to do and what they are *permitted* to do. The Montesh*tshow dud are so filled with vitrol and lies, I tend toward the view that Charles has indeed cut them entirely off, or is only giving them a pittance. H is putting his father directly in the crosshairs with this upcoming memoir. I look for a hatchet job on Camilla--and also tales of how she conspired with Charles and the Duke of Edinburgh to assassinate Diana in that car accident. If H has been getting everything he demanded from Dad, one would think he could be made to see reason about the advisability of this book.

I say Publish and be damned, Harry. He's damned already as far as I'm concerned but I want to see the entire world turn on him like the piece of chickensh*t he is.
Sandie said…
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2022/08/25/meghan-markles-archetypes-podcast-unseats-joe-rogan-for-top-spot-on-spotify/

Most popular podcast in numerous countries ... knocked Joe Rogan from number 1.

They are going to have to buy a new mansion to accommodate her ego. She now has 'evidence' of her greatness. The deluge of criticism? To her, just people being racist, nasty, bullies, jealous, whatever. She lives for this kind of attention because she is so shallow. She is going to be unbearable when she goes on her mini tour, giving speeches, loving being photographed, pushing husband out the way when she is not dragging him around like an obedient dog.

She is going to 'shoot herself in the foot'. She always does. And not only is Bower's book going to be released in America soon, but Low's book about courtiers may/probably will have more exposure of her craziness and appalling behaviour.
Karla said…
@Sandie
My surprise is zero. Serena's sugars and fans (she has over 15 MILLION followers on insta) must have gone to jumpstart Meghan's podcast.
Your video (Archetypes) on YouTube is leading the dislikes too (That's good)
Remember The Bench was a best seller(??) and its Disney voice acting surpassed Natalie Portmann and the Dolphins.
I'm also sure she will get a standing ovation at the One Young Summit.
...
And I say more, being a podcast for her must be frustrating, because it took almost two years to carry out this project. She was more involved with Pearl which was canceled.

As for the overwhelming negative reviews, yes, it will hurt Meghan. She doesn't just want the support orchestrated and organized by herself with the help of her sugary audience, she wants to show the world that she is just as loved and adored as Diana (Narcissists hate public criticism, it hurts them far more than support) And she knows she is PR support and not genuine like Diana's was) and this is where the excessive negative reviews cut her short, as they make it clear to everyone that she has not yet reached the People's Princess stage.
Este said…
@Sandie, I'm not even remotely worried that Meghan's treacle will pose any threat to Joe Rogan. She's getting a bit of a bump from the curious, the haters and the press, tuning in to see what she will say. In fact on SaintMeghanMarkle, they show her podcast got a lot more down votes and all the comments were about how bad it was.

Joe Rogan's incredible success was born out of decades of hard work, a real talent for interviewing people and for a lone straight white real man voice out there in a wilderness of woke garbage. It's his rareness that makes him so popular just as much as his talent at interviewing people. Meghan can't compete with that. She's just getting a temporary curiosity factor bump.
Este said…
@Sandie, I'm not even remotely worried that Meghan's treacle will pose any threat to Joe Rogan. She's getting a bit of a bump from the curious, the haters and the press, tuning in to see what she will say. In fact on SaintMeghanMarkle, they show her podcast got a lot more down votes and all the comments were about how bad it was.

Joe Rogan's incredible success was born out of decades of hard work, a real talent for interviewing people and for a lone straight white real man voice out there in a wilderness of woke garbage. It's his rareness that makes him so popular just as much as his talent at interviewing people. Meghan can't compete with that. She's just getting a temporary curiosity factor bump.
Este said…
@Sandie, I'm not even remotely worried that Meghan's treacle will pose any threat to Joe Rogan. She's getting a bit of a bump from the curious, the haters and the press, tuning in to see what she will say. In fact on SaintMeghanMarkle, they show her podcast got a lot more down votes and all the comments were about how bad it was.

Joe Rogan's incredible success was born out of decades of hard work, a real talent for interviewing people and for a lone straight white man's voice out there in a wilderness of woke garbage. It's his rareness that makes him so popular just as much as his talent at interviewing people. Meghan can't compete with that. She's just getting a temporary curiosity factor bump.
Girl with a Hat said…
did you see the DM story about Hairy forgetting his polo kit and only realising when he was already in his private plane? so the plane idled on the runway for 35 minutes while somebody (not the twit) went to get it. Eco-warrior indeed.
Sandie said…
It seems this is misinformation being peddled? Some are claiming that Joe Rogan is still number one in America and her show climbed to number nine. Why is everything so messy with this deranged woman? Why is the claim of more than 10 million listeners being picked up and peddled as unchecked fact?

I see the hapless one returned from Africa to see his beloved then rushed off to the airport to get a private jet to go and play polo, but had to sit waiting on the runway for half an hour for his polo equipment to be delivered. Strange that in the week that she dissed Africa in so many ways he returns from Africa and then heads off to go and play polo to raise funds for AIDS orphans in southern Africa.
snarkyatherbest said…
oh can joe rogan interview the duchass. surely two top spotify stars would be epic 😉. how many interns had to listen in to make those numbers. not as family with spotify but can you listen to a podcast and. it give over $ and info into an account. real question will be the numbers on the second and this podcast
snarkyatherbest said…
so baroness bruck on twitter had the promo pic in LA with someone who looks like the duchass with the billboard behind her. someone asked if it was her (not sure) and why her hoo ha was front and center (the pic was done looking up at the woman). hmmm maybe she is advertising
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/Oceansussex/status/1562531629326733314

now the "fire" in Archie's bedroom was a kidnapping attempt. LOL

these people seem to be suffering from histrionic personality disorder.
Karla said…
#Archewell was supposed to be a charitable “foundation
OMG! Archetypes publicity is insane!
No, but there it is rather to die of laughter sincerely.
The publicity is so excessive that it smells of collapse and despair.

https://twitter.com/SnowScottish/status/1562918394525016064?s=20&t=hGQDfbLAI50lhggLwLKX5Q
Karla said…
People are determined to pretend that there is no episode chart. The algorithm of the podcast chart is putting her on top so they all want to focus on that one and ignore the listener based chart. She is doing alright in the episode chart but she’s not reaching the top.
That chart is basically an ad tool to gain listeners. Advertisers and investors don’t care about it. They care about mins listened, sub & unique listeners, & sub conversion & ad engagement on free listens.
podcast
For those interested, follow the link. Choose the language and click on episodes.

https://podcastcharts.byspotify.com/
Fifi LaRue said…
@Hikari: Thank you. Your posts are always so well thought out.

Charles didn't get to marry his first choice, Camilla, because she wasn't a virgin. Maybe that's why the okay was given for Twit to marry Twat, even though most everyone was alarmed at his choice.
Enough people in the Royal Family have suffered at not being able to choose their preferred partner.

I don't know English history, but a quick google check tells that Britain changed from a Monarchy to a constitutional government in 1686. That's 300 years when it hasn't been necessary to make sure the Royal lineage is pure enough to continue as rulers.
Este said…
I believe the NY Post and I'm surprised that treacle accomplished that. I gotta give Sunshine Sachs credit where credit is due. They finally delivered a bona fide win for Meghan Markle. So, let's raise a glass of finest Freixenet to Meghan Markle and her PR team!

I'm glad about this podcast, except for Mariah, no that. Still. Meghan is so cloyingly vapid and it's obvious to everyone but Meghan that she's making this all about herself. She doesn't have an interesting life and she's not an interesting person. Of course, she thinks she's the most fascinating person in the world, second only to....ooh, let me get back to you on that one cuz can't make ME say something I don't want to say tra-la-la tee-hee-hee!.

More importantly, this treacle isn't going to launch an empire or shadow court like she plans. It's dressed up junk only getting an audience because of the talent Meghan paid SS for, which is exactly what you pay them to do. They just haven't been able to deliver the goods until now. Hey what can I say, sometimes you get what you paid for and you know they paid dearly for this tripe.

I see Harry just made a fool of himself, yet again, cosplaying working royal in Africa but nobody seemed to care. Are you okay? Then he left to go play polo and left his gear back, poor thing. He's just a royal mess of marital bliss, just like who really should be his BFF, Ben Affleck. I dunno about you but I got soooo jazzed after BenGlow's three day wedding extravaganza, I can hardly wait for Meghan and Harry's Netflix wedding! Will the bride wear white? Will the groom be sober? Will JLo lip synch the live music for the special day? Will her celebrity pals be game for Meghan and Harry 2.0 again? Will Vogue get the exclusive or will they pass it to People mag? Enquiring Minds wanna know!
NeutralObserver said…
@Hikari, LOL, you're right, everyone deserves compassion. Charles is the introspective, sensitive type. His strengths are cultural, not political. I just think the RF shouldn't have raised the 6's profile so much, so early, with the massive wedding. They should have told Harry, yeah, get married to your middle aged divorcee, but do it in a registry office like your father, the future king, & stepmother did, & you can have a nice party afterward for all your old friends and family. He or she who controls the purse always holds the upper hand. Or, they could have told 6 to pay for his own wedding, as a lot of couples do. LOL. As if that would ever happen! If the 6s did threaten to play the racism card to get their way, the RF in effect, gave in to a couple of terrorists.

Not sure what to make of the podcast #s. It is what it is. I hate to think of impressionable young women listening to that tripe, & thinking this is what a 'meaningful life' is, constantly whining, dwelling on your own self importance, & claiming an impossible fragility, not to mention saying things like 'labels' 'trying' to do stuff. Labels are inanimate, but maybe snowflakes don't know that. A generation of women like Ms. 6 would be a disaster for all mankind, not a giant step forward. However, if the 6s can make a living from things like this, they will be less likely to be burden to the beleaguered UK taxpayers.
Fifi LaRue said…
IMO Me-Again asked Sunshine Saks, "How much will it cost to outplay Joe Rogan?" SS gave her a number, and she said okay.
Hairy's money is waving bye-bye.
DesignDoctor said…
Anyone else surprised that the press “cover” photo (in the white wife beater t-shirt is missing Archetypes with Meghan,Duchess of Sussex? I thought she added her title to every communication!
SwampWoman said…
I'm rewatching a Lex Fridman podcast with Avi Loeb. He asks penetrating questions and lets the guest actually answer. I've watched Joe Rogan draw a guest out into some interesting conversations. That is the mark of a good interviewer. They have the ability to get their own ego out of the way and let their guests shine and share their expertise with the rest of us.

Apparently * completely missed the opportunity to have a meaningful conversation with Serena, a fascinating woman. What a pity. It had the potential to be so very good. She doesn't have the ability to get out of her own way and shine the light on anybody else and let them speak without interruption, unless it is to elucidate on a particular point. But then again, Serena and Venus kept their family and didn't toss them out as they became more and more famous.

I'm sorry, I could have probably expressed this more delicately, but we're in a big thunderstorm and the electricity could be out at any time. I'll let you ladies discuss how she could improve. And I DO want her to improve so that she won't feel the need to use The Claw on the royal family.
Maneki Neko said…
An article by Jan Moir in the DM: according to the LA Times, the 6s have adopted a rescue beagle called Mamma Mia.

The LA Times reports that the duchess personally rang Shannon Keith, an animal rights lawyer — I'd love to know who pays her bills; bet she doesn't come cheep — who runs the dog rescue facility where Mamma Mia was kennelled.

'She calls on my cell with no Caller ID and says: 'Hey Shannon, this is Meghan.' We talked for 30 minutes, and I thought: 'Is this Megan Fox?'


Of course, there's only one M!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11146893/JAN-MOIR-Unlike-Meghan-Markle-unambitious-Queen-never-forgot-on.html
@Fifi - you're almost right about the date - it was 1688 that James II fled and William III arrived. We kept the monarchy but legislation made sure that monarchs could no longer act as Absolutists, ruling without Parliament. We'd had enough of that under the Stuarts.

The French didn't start a similar move until 1789, in Russia it was 1917; so we've really been quite progressive.
Enbrethiliel said…
There's a tweet I saw earlier that I can't find again now.

It said that there have been cultural tensions between South Africa and Zimbabwe for quite a while, so when * said that a Zimbabwean saved her son from a South African fire, it sounded extra insulting to South Africans. When I looked up the reasons for the conflict, I realized how insensitive *'s little anecdote actually was.

But what do we pin this on? Was it pure ignorance, in an attempt to sound as "woke" as possible? Or was it a deliberate attempt to trigger South Africans, straight out of the narc playbook?
Sandie said…
@FifiLaRue
I agree with you. She has got the PR that she outdid Joe Rogan and got more than 10 million listeners, even though it is not true. Her next podcast will be popular because of Mariah Carey. She lies about everything so she will forever more claim to have the most popular podcast ever.

As I said, she has a tendency to shoot herself in the foot. A story is emerging on social media that the British High Commission in South Africa is not happy. Another rumour us that Bower us digging for the true story.

I have a theory: staff were crying and shaking, because the crazy one threw a tantrum about something (not a fire, definitely not a fire) and she was backed up by her husband. That is why she looked as if she was on a high at the next engagement... that sort of behaviour really gives her a huge amount of pleasure. The DM article mentions them being moved to another location, but the reports are confusing to me. Her dig about 'housing unit' reveals that she was not happy with the accommodation. But unlike during the Australian tour, I think she may have got to move to somewhere that was more 'pleasing' to her. There are plenty of luxury places to stay in Cape Town, but not with the safety and convenience of the High Commissioner's residence. I may be way out in my speculation (not about the tantrum), but there is something fishy that was hidden and that may now be revealed because of her bitchiness.

Did anyone notice how happy the prince looked at polo and how well he played?
Sandie said…
Anyone have a theory as to why the prince heads off to the airport to get to a polo match and then has to sit idling in the runway for half an hour waiting for his polo gear to arrive! He had just arrived back from a week-long trip to Africa (involving many many flights), chasing an American Congressional delegation. Perhaps I am being silly, but I find it all rather odd.
Magatha Mistie said…

Apologies Abba

Gonor Rhea!

Knowing him, Knowing her
no Money, Money to spend
We’ve been Chiquited
Gimme, Gimme must end
Pooper Scooper
met her Waterloo
Grinner takes a Fall
SOS in her own poo…

Este said…
The more I think about it the more I'm convinced that SS used bots to stream cuz there is no way more real people tuned into treacle over the only powerhouse and hegemonic alternative to woke cr#p that is Joe Rogan. Barkjack has already exposed these two operators as manipulating appearance of support that really only comes from a few IP addresses. Now if bots controlled by a few or more SS staff can create squad support that does not actually exist, then surely they can stream ad nauseam on repeat to punch up the numbers. My prior post was just giving credit where it's not earned because the win was stolen I firmly believe now. But that's okay because the podcast is utter garbage that can't be propped up by SS bots forever. Hope Barkjack can expose chicanery here cuz nothing "Princess Pinocchio" does is trustworthy and she was desperate for a win. That is why she felt emboldened after Bower's bomb detonated the last chards of Meghan's reputation. She knew she had her husband buy the requisite celebs and that SS bots would deliver the win for her. Still treacle is treacle and the kind of success she requires, mogulship and/or shadow court can't be obtained without talent and Meghan doesn't have it which is why the public has turned on her and not because of a press they largely bought or got favorable coverage from because of the woke. Time will tell and the truth will come out on this pathetic play too.

Meghan, she stoops to conquer Markle.
Sandie said…
Nacho's put out a tweet in praise of the missing duchess (works so hard, takes care of the children...), congratulating her o the major success of her podcast and saying how everyone misses her.

I don't think the marriage is in trouble. Excuse me getting crude, but I think the triumphant duchess is on a high (most popular podcast ever), and so the hapless one had a very steamy reunion with her, making him rush to catch his plane and forget his polo gear. I just do not think Nachos or the hapless prince are bright enough to come up with a strategy to hide marriage troubles.

She is heading for a major fall. Is a diplomatic incident going to unfold? Is Bower going to do some major digging and reveal all in his promotion of his book for the American market?

By the way, news is that the Queen is considering staying at Balmoral to receive the new prime minister. No reunions with granny possible. But, with the family tucked away in Balmoral, the duo are going to get all the attention when they touch down in the UK. They are a tacky tasteless reality show. But, the more the light of the tabloids shine on them, the more the risk to them because that couple gave a lot to hide.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Hikari
I too like Charles
Cultured, aesthetic
not the royal norm
His bangin’ sense of humour
will win overall

As for Edward
He tried, showed his card
No embarrassment
It’s bloody well hard!!!



NeutralObserver said…
@Este, Joe Rogan hasn't done any new podcasts in a while, so her triumph is over reruns, also, I think her ranking # is for podcasts that day, (hers was the only one released that day, so, no competition). I don't know how Spotify counts listeners, or much else about it, other than musicians have complained about how it reimburses them, & it used to irritate me when its preloaded app on my new phones would aggressively try to get me to accidentally subscribe to it.
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