I was reading some of the parts from the new book and and thinking about all the little flashing yellow lights released so far.
Like the troubles of all the assistants written off as just Americans can just be direct so it is a style of behavior. Well, maybe? But humiliation towards someone is not the same as being direct. Direct can be a little abrupt without a please or thank you but it is more about getting to the heart of solving a problem. Humiliation is just mean.
A polite way would be: I wonder if you tried reversing those two parts to see if that can get them to fit?
A direct way would be: Reverse those two parts and they ought to fit.
A humiliating way would be: I can't believe you are so stupid that you need me to tell you this. Reverse those two and it will work!
It does, however, give some ammunition to the charges of bullying.
Or "control the press or I am leaving you."
Yeah good luck with that one (this isn't still the time of King Henry VIII where the mere comment of life after the king's death was treasonous). There are some press rules in place but it's kind of like trying to control the tide. You can put up some barrier bars but water is a force of nature and nature still follows nature's internal laws and remolds the manmade to its liking. The result may not be as intended. You are far better off allowing X so that you don't have to worry endlessly about the rest of the time. It's like using the magic words to help both sides briefly before moving on. Maintaining some control.
Linked is that one of the long standing issues appears to be that they actually do want press but only positive press and bury any with a whiff of negative (described as being protection). But that's not how life works in a parliamentary democracy or a democratic republic. You risk hearing or seeing things you would rather not but the flip side is that you are allowed your own opinion toward the unwanted. The same cannot be said for a totalitarian state. And control there only works to your favor if you are part of the controlling decision making power team.
Regardless, any statement which is a variation of: "Do this or else" - is by nature, a threat (a bullying remark). When people tell you who they are, listen (or so the phrase goes).
Endless shows of required fealty. Excessive displays of behavior (from loyalty to we are so in love) often tend to actually be counter productive to the goal because they stem from an inner insecurity about the situation. If it worked (to receive that assurance), it would have worked the first time and not needed infusions.
Or needing to display power like I will be your boss. The most powerful people actually rarely need to remind people of the extent of the power. Everyone knows so one doesn't need to threaten or coerce for cooperation. Cooperative people are far less likely to want to stab you in the back but people who feel threatened, scared as how they have no control are more likely to take some kind of action to regain some autonomy. The victim might not feel safe about responding appropriately or inappropriately at that time or even later. So often delayed reaction comes out as a big way instead of a smaller less disruptive one. And to do so at all often means any action will be viewed as a negative.
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PH could not live at Highgrove as KC gave up the lease on the farm after the death of PP. KC is now the estate manager of Sandringham Estate, which was PP's main focus. All the rare breed animals have been moved to Sandringham and added to that KC is redoing the garden as well. So he has many other things to do, besides mollify the family traitor. Plans are for Highgrove house are being discussed, Earl Snowdon is involved in those.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11251361/DAN-WOOTTON-Sussex-Survivor-Squad-finally-having-truth-Harry-Meghan-heard.html#comments
Worth reading for what DW adds to what VL says.
We had a good idea of what was going on but of course it all had to be `allegations'. I'm so glad hat what we thought is now being confirmed.
I only ever got the impression that Mole would only be allowed to return to the family was due to his mental health, and what he may do if things spiral for him if Maggot left him or he left her. I never once got the impression it was anything even like you mention. 😳
Recollections may vary indeed. Which member of staff was JG is talking about? (They were quite a few). I think one, Melissa Touabti? Samantha Cohen?, was given a glowing reference along with a sum of money. Touabti was left in tears. She had previously worked for Robbie Williams, who has been described as a 'lively character'. No doubt the alleged gross misconduct is another of *'s 'truths'. That Gavankar woman sounds like * (voice, accent, mannerisms) and is just as obnoxious.
@Enbrethiliel
I don't think anyone cares about the official pecking order. We know what Princess Anne does and what she's like. The other two have never exactly covered themselves in glory and are pointless.
the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester are listed before the Duke of Kent and Princess Alexandra, who are higher in the line of succession.
No, the Kents are lower. Their father was George V's youngest son to have children, although they are older than the DoG, whose father married in his 40s.
re Harry & what Lady C said: -It can't be that he only fires blanks because that's would be covered by medical confidentiality.
If it's not about 5s father then maybe the provenance of 6?
Odd how the RF website doesn't list the offspring under TOS.
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Princess Anne is below Prince Edward on the royal family's official website because:
a) Prince Eduard came to be regarded as a working senior member of the royal family.
b) He is ahead of Princess Anne in LoS.
Why?
Because the provisions of the Bill of Rights and the Act of Settlement to end the system of male primogeniture, under which a younger son can displace an elder daughter in the line of succession applies to those born after 28 October 2011. And Prince Edward's children are also ahead of Princess Anne in LoS. Prince Andrew, the front of Prince Edward and Princess Anne in LoS, is after them because he was banned (almost officially and that we already know) Surprise so far on the royal family's official website (yes, let's wait for the final website update) is exactly the position of Harry who is fifth in LoS. Its position below DoK and DoG is somewhat unusual so far. However, when we go to the definition of the role of the royal family, we find this definition:
*Working Members of the Royal Family* continue to support The King in his many State and national duties, as they did for Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth for many years. They also carry out important work in the areas of public and charitable service in their own right.
Since I am considering artificial insemination next year myself, I have learned alot. Red hair sperm donors are ALMOST non existent. I also know that people make stupid insensitive comments when they find out about my plans. Ie: "Save your money and just pick up a drunk guy at a bar."
#1 That's how you catch an STD. #2 Thats rape. If it's wrong for a guy to take advantage of a girl while drunk the same rule applies for men. #3 Personality matters. Personality is largely inherited and I want to minimize the wild and crazy traits by choosing someone calm, responsible, and level headed. I can teach good behavior, no worries.
I also found that odd on the royal family website: Working Members of the Royal Family continue to support The King in his many State and national duties, as they did for Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth for many year.
The dastardly duo and Andrew are not working members of the royal family.
The Duchess of Kent stepped back from an official role years ago but she was a working member for many years and continues to work as a music teacher and supports some charities. Why is she not on the list alongside her husband?
The York sisters do sometimes attend garden parties and attended street parties during the Jubilee, but they are not in the list.
I was wrong and the Duke of Gloucester and his children do preceded the Duke of Kent.
I haven't checked the bio for the duo but I am sure it is out of date and some of the lies told by TBW have since been uncovered.
this journalist talks about how paparazzi were shouting "slag", "whore", "bitch" at Catherine while she was dating William at an airport to get a reaction from her.
I never heard of this incident before. Has anyone?
I just had a look at it. It lacks the elegant symmetry of his mother's, but E is a blocky letter and C is round. The letters look a bit tangled up, don't they? The final design is better than one idea I saw, where there was a break in the R so the leg didn't seem to be stepping over the C the way it does now. But I think it's suitable--the R is stepping boldly forward, sublimating the C to the background slightly. To me it says "All my life you have known me as Charles and weren't that impressed. But now I am Rex and Rex is coming to the fore as I step confidently into my long-awaited destiny." ER's father's, GR was kind of similar due to C and G being nearly identical.
After I deal with my toerag son and his showgirl . . .
Were * the monarch, she'd style herself MEGHAN Regina
re https://www.tiktok.com/@aroyalkate/video/7146926012079557894?_r=1&_t=8VzGzzbzrgZ&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7146926012079557894
Yes, we did know that Catherine got treated very badly but this compilation really brings it out.
I do remember Catherine being hassled by paparazzi - in a way that * never was - but don't remember her being called names to get a reaction. I had a look and found this article in SheKnows (an American magazine, I think) stating what you've just mentioned:
https://tinyurl.com/98524hva
Or that * committed some other fraud on H?
Or, did she still have a legal husband at the time of the marriage to H? How is a Catholic annulment regarded by the secular authorities? Was it an annulment plus a Reno divorce? Would that make H a bigamist?
I have actually seen the video of the paparazzi harassing Catherine in that that way at an airport ... a whole bunch of them. (And, yes, they did call her dreadful names while shoving a camera in her face.) They pretty much did it every time she stepped out her front door. She remained remarkably calm and composed considering. I think it is because she did not take it personally and thus did not take offence, unlike TBW, who is offended by everything that is not fantastical adoration.
TBW has never ever had the paparazzi harass her as Diana and Catherine did ... not even close. Her husband is a darn fool because he was with his mother often when it happened and saw it happen to Catherine, so he knows TBW just never got the same attention.
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I worked as a nanny for a family that personally knows MM, and had been with them for a few years, when they asked me if the things they had seen H&M doing seemed off to me, so here's the tea! Their nannies sign NDA's so bear in mind this is being relayed by MM friends. When MM does spend time with the kids, she's never alone, or it's never just her and Harry, they always have a nanny on standby. MM also favors Archie, and typically doesn't spend any time with Lilibet because "babies are boring". Harry avoids the kids as much as possible, as he finds it uncomfortable to interact with them, and when he and MM do spend time with the kids, it's typically not doing normal "kid" things, it's teaching Archie drivel like how important it is to be on his best behavior etc. Things a three year old really can't understand. They typically just let the nannies raise them and it took them a very long time to find a nanny who would put up with their demands (long hours, weird parenting rules like following the kids around when they were just learning to walk to ensure they didn't fall down, strict diets). If you all remember, they lost 6 nannies within Archie's first year.
(If you all are interested, I have a lot more to share!)
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/xphcqd/hm_parenting_rules/
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My boss did tell me she found it weird how all over Archie MM was and how Lili was always with the nanny.
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Typically they have a driver and a nanny shuttle to and from preschool, occasionally MM goes with both to get Archie.
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Here are some of the weird parenting rules my boss and MM talked about (MM asked for advice on finding/keeping a nanny) 1. Only organic, sugar free food. The kids eat the same thing almost every day and it consists of breakfast, morning snack, lunch, afternoon snack, evening snack, then dinner. Everything that is consumed down to the number of things like Cheerios or pieces of fruit is documented. 2.The Nanny must follow the child around (especially when they're first learning to walk) to ensure no bumps, bruises, or scrapes. Everything must be reported immediately or the nanny will be chewed out about it when MM does her inspection. 3. No art activities in the house (only at preschool) no playdough, nothing that makes mess. 4. After every snack or meal the kids are stripped down, wiped down, lotioned, and dressed in fresh clothes. 5. No plastic or battery powered toys (everything is wooden/Montessori) 6. The kids never go outside or leave the grounds unless it's with their parents
(Note how point 6 contradicts the narrative that the driver and nanny usually take Archie to and fetch him from school. I am suspicious that the person is making it up to get attention, but I also believe most of it.)
PART I
It’s been a tough few weeks for the royal family, since losing their much-loved Queen and matriarch. And it’s clear Harry has felt the loss keenly, with the prince looking extremely emotional as he attended the funeral with wife Meghan Markle last week, amid a still-troubling feud with his father and brother. The couple flew home to California just hours later, but the situation in England is still weighing heavily on Harry, who’s told friends he’s anxious over his forthcoming book – and whether it could spell a potentially more permanent estrangement.
“Harry went home with a heavy heart,” says an insider close to the 38 year old, who quit royal life back in 2020, to move to the US with Meghan and their two children, Archie, three, and Lilibet, one. “He’s feeling lost and sad. It was a difficult few weeks in the UK, with a few embarrassing snubs from his relatives, but he also felt immensely proud to be British. It was an honour to be part of such a unique and deeply moving tribute to Her Majesty, and it made him sad that he’s physically and emotionally so far away.”
“Harry went home with a heavy heart,” says an insider close to the 38 year old, who quit royal life back in 2020, to move to the US with Meghan and their two children, Archie, three, and Lilibet, one. “He’s feeling lost and sad. It was a difficult few weeks in the UK, with a few embarrassing snubs from his relatives, but he also felt immensely proud to be British. It was an honour to be part of such a unique and deeply moving tribute to Her Majesty, and it made him sad that he’s physically and emotionally so far
And while the Sussexes were welcomed back into the royal family for the period of mourning and the funeral, reports last week claimed there was initially a bust-up between Harry and his dad, after he wouldn’t allow Meghan to fly to Balmoral with Harry on the day the Queen died. The ensuing row meant Harry missed his flight to Scotland and arrived after the monarch’s death had been announced – and a furious Harry then refused to sit down for dinner with his brother and the King that night. The couple quietly left England for their $14million home in Montecito one day after the funeral. Insiders say that, naturally, they missed their children, but add that Harry was hoping to spend a couple more days with his family.
“Harry didn’t want to argue with Meghan – and she’d had enough of what she calls the ‘bad vibes’ – but, ideally, he would have liked to fly the kids over and extend their stay, so he could spend more time with his father and try to mend things with William. There’s so much unfinished business between them, and Harry’s struggling with the situation. But Meghan doesn’t feel the same and they’re in different places about it right now.”
Not helping matters is the imminent tell-all book the Prince confirmed he was writing last year. It was due to be published this autumn, but reports suggest Harry has pushed it back until 2023 over fears of upsetting his family yet again so soon after the Queen’s death. Questions were raised over the memoir last week when Vanity Fair’s royal correspondent Katie Nicholl released book The New Royals, claiming King Charles III is seriously concerned about what his second-born will say. In fact, the 73 year old is alleged to be waiting for the memoir’s release before he decides if Archie and Lilibet will be given royal titles.”
But it’s not just this book that the King has to worry about. As part of Meghan and Harry’s $100million deal with Netflix, and their $25million arrangement with Spotify, there are TV shows, documentaries and yet more podcasts in the works. It follows multiple bombshell interviews from Meghan, 41, as well as damning comments on her podcast Archetypes about her experience of the royals after marrying Harry in 2018. The former Suits star recently warned, “I can say anything,” adding, “It takes a lot of effort to forgive… [I’m] still healing.”
And while Meghan is struggling to forgive and forget, we’re told Harry hasn’t given up on a reconciliation yet. “He intends to come back to the UK before Christmas – most likely alone,” says heat’s insider. “He wants to sit down with the King and his brother, and call a truce. He’s hopeful that his father will compromise, so he and Meghan can still be part of the royal family, while doing their own thing in the US. Time will tell if Charles is open to it and if Meghan is willing to try, but Harry is hopeful he can repair these broken relationships and heal the wounds of the past.”
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My comments: She really thinks she has done nothing wrong and has been wronged. He really thinks he can have the half in/half out.
Attributes not stereotypically associated with red hair. It must be from the constant worry about freckling and sunburn, something like a vampire's constant daymare.
Or, has the Firm got proof that the marriage isn't valid? That H entered it under duress exerted by her?
Oh, that would be very nice and the best possible scenario. *sigh*
also found that odd on the royal family website: Working Members of the Royal Family continue to support The King in his many State and national duties, as they did for Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth for many year.
The dastardly duo and Andrew are not working members of the royal family"
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Yes! I understand that they are not in the service of the king.
KCIII wishes to amend the law on who can become counsellors of state so that only working members of the Royal Family can have this duty, a report in the Telegraph has claimed. This amendment could relieve Prince Andrew, Prince Harry and Princess Beatrice of their duties, which means they cannot temporarily step in and perform duties for King Charles if he is away.
Under the 1937 Regency Act, which was passed by King George VI, only the spouse of the sovereign and the next four in line to the throne, who are adults over the age of 21, can act as counsellors of state.
Why Beatrice?
Elizabeth II Regency, the first four (over 21) Charles, William, Harry and Andrew. Charles now is king. Now the first four; William, Harry, Andrew and Beatrice.
According to parliament Andrew and Harry have specific roles in the monarchy. And KCIII, in my opinion, has to respect that agreement.
Significant changes ( If KCIII to perform)
It depends agreement with parliament
“Or, has the Firm got proof that the marriage isn't valid? That H entered it under duress exerted by her?”
That is exciting conjecture! Yes, we’re only mulling over DesignDoctor’s snippet of juicy Reddit gossip as to how it could be, that H could re-enter the family fold without Megs due to fact that “The Palace has confirmed a fact about Harry that…may allow Harry to return to the fold. W / o Megs.”
- Duress, as WBBM threw out to us for our delectation
- or, I instantly thought that perhaps Megs was actually still married to somebody else when she somehow got the Prince of Irrelevance to secretly marry her in advance of the “Spectacle” wedding
- maybe she and her best buddy from Soho House were married for their individual nefarious purposes (the tough looking dude who exudes menace from every pore in every single photo even when he thinks he is smiling) and he agreed to keep schtum when she unexpectedly succeeded in reeling in H
- or some other concurrent marriage to an unknown nice guy who thought she and he were marrying for love, when she just saw another mark with big bank account and little sense. When dumped, due to time being of the essence with her huge H score, the sap would’ve been paid off for silence rather than drained dry of everything before dumping as would’ve been her original intent. And the poor sap would be so humiliated and reeling, that he would indeed keep schtum
- maybe the simplest explanation is easiest to swallow: that she simply lied about being pregnant (perhaps during their love-nest Africa luxury tent experience(s): she could fool the fool with “oh, H, I have to keep taking a pee in the bush because OUR baby is pressing on my bladder. You must marry me stat”. She is wily and could so easily hire an African actor to pretend to marry them there and then. Invalid marriage, but how would H know that? He has always had someone to look after him and arrange all details of his life for him, and Megs slotted neatly into that role
- in any case, Megs has run circles around H, and he has allowed it eagerly and willingly, thus he deserves whatever he gets
I send you powerful positive vibes for the best outcome, whatever decision you make and whatever actions you take.
I wonder how Wootton heard about *'s negotiations in the US pre-megxit. Not from *.
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Couple of theories.
1) Mm did leak it herself to speed things up. Harkles had been told a family meeting was needed to discuss. All wouldn't be available at the same time until 1/23(?). She didn't want to wait that long.
Harkles had been told to prepare a tentative plan in writing to be discussed. They didn't want to, saying they feared leaks.
I think Harkles were sent on time out, to decide, are you in or out. They didn't like that. Wanted halves. So put out manifesto trying to upstage the palace. We put halves out in public, now you have to honor it. Haha.
Palace called their bluff, much to their astonishment.
If they had decided out, then palace would have come up with a tactful statement to cover that Harkles were fired.
Palace had probably floated some ideas with them, but they didn't like any of it. They were not operating in good faith. So we had the manifesto.
2) Jason Knauf went to school with Dan Wooton. He hadn't appeared to leak before or after megxit. Leak seems unlikely there.
3) Christian Jones and his partner Callum Stephens are close with Wooton. Jones was Sussexes communication secretary, then went to work for Cambridges. Lasted there 10 months.
Wooton is suspected of paying Callum £4000 twice for info obtained from Christian Jones, but this was never proven.
All 3 parties strenuously deny. Which lends theory #1 some credence.
4) Simon Case, private secretary to PW, was also thought to be close to Wooton.
He seems highly professional, leaks seem unlikely.
Victoria Ward
Tue, 27 September 2022 at 5:00 pm
`The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been “demoted” on the Royal family’s website to bottom billing alongside the Duke of York.
Until recently, the couple featured midway down the rankings, below senior members of the family but ahead of minor royals such as the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester, the Duke of Kent, Princess Alexandra and Prince and Princess Michael of Kent.
When the webpage was updated to reflect the order of succession following Queen Elizabeth’s death, the Sussexes and Prince Andrew were repositioned at the bottom of the page.
The rearrangement might reflect the King’s vision of a slimmed-down monarchy, elevating the status of those who support the monarch in his duties.
The late Queen’s cousins, Princess Alexandra, 85, the Duke of Kent, 86, and the Duke of Gloucester, 78, are still officially classified as working members of the family.
Prince Michael of Kent, 80, and his wife, Marie-Christine, are not working royals and have been removed from the page entirely.
The 200-plus public engagements undertaken by the Kents for the not-for-profit sector are funded by the Prince’s own household, rather than the taxpayer.
It comes around 15 months after the Sussexes were first nudged down the rankings on the royal website, shifting from a position directly below the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, as they were then, to below the Wessexes and Princess Anne.
The new changes are likely to be received in California with a weary sigh.
The Sussexes are thought to have returned home on the day after the Queen’s funeral feeling more ostracised than ever, their new status in the general hierarchy having been made abundantly clear.
Barely on speaking terms with several of their closest relatives, the lack of communication between Buckingham Palace and their own office could be blamed for various dramas from a mistaken invitation to a state reception to confusion over military uniforms, not to mention differing versions of exactly when Prince Harry learnt of his grandmother’s death.
Compounding tensions, Harry and Meghan are still waiting to find out whether or not their children, Archie, three and Lilibet, one, will be allowed to use their new titles of prince and princess.
As grandchildren of the sovereign, they automatically became a prince and princess upon the Queen’s death and are entitled to be styled His Royal Highness and Her Royal Highness.
Yet although the new titles of the Prince and Princess of Wales have been updated on the royal website, Archie and Lilibet’s have not, despite other changes being made.
Sources have suggested that the only sign that the Sussex children will not be allowed to use their titles is the fact that it has not been publicly acknowledged on the website.
Asked about the discrepancy in the aftermath of the Queen’s death, a spokesman for the King said: “Updating live on a website doesn’t quite work.”
He added: “We will be working through updating the website as and when we get information.”'
Weary sigh? More likely to be loud screams and imprecations?
https://uk.yahoo.com/style/nostradamus-predicted-prince-harry-become-154500910.html
ITN
King Charles' new cypher starts appearing on franked letters
Tue, 27 September 2022 at 12:49 pm
The new King Charles III cypher has started to appear on franked mail from the Buckingham Palace post room. Royal Librarian Stella Panayotova said the design historically is the choice of the reigning monarch while David White, Garter King of Arms described the cypher as representing the "simplest mark of the King's authority".
Also video:
https://metro.co.uk/video/royal-officials-king-charles-cypher-created-2782545/
Ralph L said...
choosing someone calm, responsible, and level headed
Attributes not stereotypically associated with red hair. It must be from the constant worry about freckling and sunburn, something like a vampire's constant daymare.
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Oddly, I currently know atleast 1. He could care less about freckling or sunburn. I actually have to fuss at him about putting on sunscreen, eating right (banana and chips is not acceptable), sleeping (he's a workaholic), etc. If H$M used a donor, it's hard to find redheads to pass those genes along.
I don't care about hair color or eye color, more focused on personality since I'm older and still single. Tall genes already run in my family.
Ralph L said...
choosing someone calm, responsible, and level headed
Attributes not stereotypically associated with red hair. It must be from the constant worry about freckling and sunburn, something like a vampire's constant daymare.
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Oddly, I currently know atleast 1. He could care less about freckling or sunburn. I actually have to fuss at him about putting on sunscreen, eating right (banana and chips is not acceptable), sleeping (he's a workaholic), etc. If H$M used a donor, it's hard to find redheads to pass those genes along.
I don't care about hair color or eye color, more focused on personality since I'm older and still single. Tall genes already run in my family.
https://t.co/mJb3mqZfaZ
"Symbolism-wise, the Palace explained the meaning of everything in its press release: "The blue background of the shield represents the Pacific Ocean off the California coast, while the two golden rays across the shield are symbolic of the sunshine of The Duchess’s home state. The three quills represent communication and the power of words." Markle did run a lifestyle blog, after all."
California’s state flower, and wintersweet, which grows at Kensington Palace," the press release continued. "It is customary for Supporters of the shield to be assigned to Members of the Royal Family and for wives of Members of the Royal Family to have one of their husband’s Supporters and one relating to themselves. The Supporter relatingents to The Duchess of Sussex is a songbird with wings elevated as if flying and an open beak, which with the quill represents the power of communication."
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How Ironic and funny that her COA's bird looks like it is being strangled by a crown, as she and H are have been struggling to get 'their voice' which by and large has been badly received. I thought it glaring at the time and some sly commentators also remarked the strange position of the bird's neck crown too (even though it might be an routine element among heraldry). Indeed even the bird to me looks in stress (I own poultry and can attest chickens do have a difinite reaction to threats and while chicks will definitely chirp if they are under stress.) and surely the couple must be stressed now with the King on the throne.
Even the stance of the bird makes me think * is being thrown off balance, just like the duo's plans over the last few years have been by altered by the Queen's (represented by the big crown) decisions affecting Megxit. It seems the problems are due more to actions surround the witch. Even the bird's legs look like what many have described hers as, "bird legs: or "chicken legs". I find it laughable the bird has its big maw open very wide indicative of * style of being loud, strident and bossy in yelling demands.
The feathers (quills) on the blue shield being representative of communications and power have come to pass, but in a bad way what with her outrageous statements and lies many published in print especially this nastiness from 'The Cut' magazine. Indeed the Oprah interview communicated to the wide world how awful she is by lying and using the power of communication as an attempt to wound the BRF. Then there was the failure of her written 'Pearl series which was canned unceremoniously. Now the manuscript H has written is predicted to harm the King/BRF and surely * features in it and may have contributed to the writing of the book. Not to mention the recent Bower book and especially the Low book which is likely to be communicate world wide the true nature of the couple especially M.
Although the California elements are no doubt present because she is from California it seems even more so now they have chosen it as their home and opetimistic thinking that it has given them power to speak from and their desire to mix with Hollywood.
Something lacking was a motto on the COA, so maybe its a secret meaning she would have nothing to say or would stand for nothing. Perhaps wishful thinking but fun to wonder about.
Although Mr. Woodcock designed the coat of arms, the Queen had to approve it. I chuckle to think she had prescience and perhaps a hidden reason much like her gift of titles such as Dunbarton.
If H$M have legitimate fertility issues, I'm sympathetic to that. Lying about when/where/who/how they came into this world is entirely different. Surrogate is not of the body even if it's their DNA.
For me the time for sympathy passed long ago, no matter what their 'issues' (legion) may be.
Hindsight being 20/20, I firmly believe that both parties went into this marriage *knowing absolutely* that they would not be conceiving children the usual way. It was notable, quite remarkable actually, that a centerpiece of their engagement interview was a discussion of children--principally being 'very open' to creating a family through adoption and being Royal trailblazers for doing so. I pictured an Angelina Jolie-style United Colors of Benetton tribe and I think that's the word picture Markle was weaving.
To my knowledge, apart from Camilla, she was the oldest Royal bride ever, nearly 37 years old and the topic of kids for Harry was on everybody's mind. Of course, we all assumed he loved children back then, because his Royal handlers did such a great job of burnishing that image of Hero Hazza, Soldier Prince and Lover of Kids. Frankly, from soup to nuts, that wholesome patriotic paternal image was complete b*ll*cks. Joking around with some black children from the Commonwealth whilst he was kicking around a soccer ball and performing for cameras does not constitute 'loving kids'. There have been some other cute photographic interactions with babies-not-his-own that I now cynically regard as Somebody Out for a PR photo op. H's goo-goo gahing over a little girl baby while visiting a YMCA during TBW's ostensible pregnancy was one example.
Fertility issues for this couple of 30-somethings, each with a checkered love life previously would hardly have been surprising and if the case, they could have had a previously unchampioned platfrom to advocate for people having similar struggles. In my opinion, Harry, like his ancestor King Edward VIII is sterile through congenital defect and * has VERY likely had her tubes tied in the past because she did not want a kid interfering with thriving acting/supermodeling career. (Yeah, that's me being snarky). Trevor very much wanted children and it would be typical of a Narcissist to pretend to want that too in order to get the ring on her finger and then renege. At the time, * couldn't have known that just a few years later, reproduction was going to be critically important to her future, after she'd taken that particular card off the table.
I just thought it was VERY telling that the couple brings up the topic of adopting children almost immediately in their very first interview together six months before their marriage. If they were planning to, and confident in, their ability to have children naturally, why even bring that up? And everyone in the world must have clocked the matching smirks of Duper's Delight that crossed the faces of both halves of the bridal couple when the Archbishop of Canterbury intoned that marriage was for the procreation of children. There was definitely a plot of some kind going because two less sex-shy nearly middle-aged people getting married (Rach for the third time) it'd be really tough to find. They acted like a couple of embarrassed 15 year olds---OR relished knowing they had a Little Secret.
(Unless she pretended to 'miscarry' between May 19th and then announcing just 5 months later that she'd already had a 12 week scan. Couldn't be the same pregnancy except in MarkleMath, in which the normal laws of mathematics are disregarded and numbers mean whatever M's truth says they are.)
1. Harry's statement that they would 'wait a couple years' was overruled, though with the bride's advanced age this wasn't surprising.
2. Narcle would have had to conceive by late July, or approximately 8 weeks or less after her wedding. Not impossible but neither LIKELY given other circumstances . .
3. If 'Archie' is a naturally conceived baby, Narcle was pregnant with him for 42-43 weeks by my count.
4. The Queen (and *'s mystery medical team) greenlighted the Duchess continuing with the planned tour to a known hotbed of Zika virus which is exceptionally dangerous to developing fetuses at the precise time that the Harkles were to be in Australia and the South Pacific. The CDC and all medical authorities strenuously advised against travel to those areas by expectant women . . and the Palace would have known this. To me, this is one of the more damning pieces of evidence against a natural pregnancy for Narcle. She was already a high-risk mother due to her age. She was not originally slated to go on the tour with Harry as it had all been planned months before her marriage, but they'd shoehorned her into the arrangements because she insisted on coming.
If she were actually pregnant, the Queen and the whole Palace medical team had a duty of care to ground her from getting on that plane, lest an heir to the the throne of Britain be born with a pinhead. Concerns about a virus deadly to in utero babies wasn't even mentioned once, which I thought extremely odd. Addendum: The Queen sent * to Morocco in a very late stage of pregnancy . .had this been real . . at a time which even women who are not geriatric pregnancies are advised against air travel due to the risks of premature labor or blood clots. London to North Africa isn't exactly a puddle jumper to Balmoral so, once again, very very odd. Not to mention sending such an ostentatiously pregnant woman on that particular delegation would have been deeply offensive to the hosts. Muslim women are far more discreet when that gravid. Narcle should have been at home, awaiting a near-imminent birth. That trip was an absolute PR disaster for the RF.
I have come to the conclusion that the RF knows the score, has known the score from very early on and furthermore, has known since Harry was a child that he is infertile. But H and * are both narcissists and will not, cannot admit to being in any way 'lesser' or 'damaged'. Unacceptable. So they know what they know, but think they can continue with this ridiculous charade . . forever? Personally I think "Archie" is why they now live in America and they didn't choose to leave at all--they were fired and banished for a gross act of tampering with the succession. How like Narcs to double down on their lies and insist on titles now. They've told the world they have two children and they have to carry on.
Let's just say we are now finally getting to the good parts in this saga. Narcle has just announced that once again, she'll be leaving her two tiny children at home while she travels across the ocean again to receive a thinly disguised award for being an easy lay or being GQ's idea of a 'humanitarian'. Whatever. Charity begins at home Rach--what about 'the children'?
Thank you so much for the background info. on Valentine Low. 🤗Lady C said the book is stirling work and is accurately reported, and urges everyone to buy it! 🤗
As a redhead myself, whilst I need to be careful about getting sunburned I do actually tan! 🤗Hair colour has no bearing on a person’s personality. Isn’t silly stereotyping for the school playground? 😂🥴
So well stated!!! Such a great summary.
I concur with everything you said about the kiddos.
I always found it odd the POW kept her children away from MM in the green tent and baby Archie on the polo field that day. How did she manage that so effectively? Children are always curious about new babies. Especially new cousins.
How is a Catholic annulment regarded by the secular authorities?
I don't know but I do remember Princess Caroline of Monaco got her first mariage annulled. She married Philippe Junot in a registry office (or the local equivalent) and they divorced in 1980. She Catholic Church granted her an annulment in 1992. She married two more times after that so I'd say * and H are legally married. I'm sure the BRF would have checked thoroughly.
I found it odd that it was Eug who went instead of Jack, but it was thought that perhaps Eug was playing carrier pigeon between Haz and the BRF? I dunno, it was just weird to me, but it wouldn't be odd that Eug was mum on any of it, because that is SOP for the Royals. Private matters should remain private, not leaked constantly, as the Harkles are wont to do.
I see we are back at information being needed from the Harkles. It does make one wonder what information could possibly be needed at this point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0niwhB9lbLA
Thank you 😊. I don't think I had a lot of info on V Low but he seems solid. If he has Lady C's seal of approval, that's a good sign. I might buy the book but it seems quite big - I'm still only halfway through Revenge (I've left it for a while, there are more interesting topics than the 5s).
How is a Catholic annulment regarded by the secular authorities?
I know the answer for the Roman Catholic Church and associated offshoots who are under the Papacy at the Vatican; an annulment through the Church has No bearing on the civil laws and the reverse is true.
Now some people who have been married before then divorced and subsequently want to have the Sacrament of Matrimony performed might have to have their prior marriage annulled by the Church in order to receive the Sacrament with a new spouse. Depends on the exact circumstance and reasons the prior marrigae ended in divorce and has to be formally looked at by a Catholic tribunal for a decision. I will refrain from an exhaustive recounting of the potential reasons because it really goes on a case by case basis.
Asking for an Church anullment usually involves a prior married person who wants to be free to remarry in the Church (they could be either a Catholic or non-Catholic (who was married in a Christian ceremony previously). Contrary to rumors a Catholic annullment does mean the children born to the prior union are illigitimate.
IMO, it is typically easier to get a Catholic annullment than a civil anullment because the narrow factors taht are allowed (in Calif). Though I have successfully gotten a civil annullment even though I was fighting my former partner who hired an attorney and said I wasn't going to prevail. I considered myself a bit lucky because I used the 'fraud' reason for the basis of my claim.
I have thought that * may have been married before Eagleson with her alleged 1st'ex' an attorney possibly Catholic so I'm thinking that if it was true he may have really wanted the whole shebang (both a religious and civil annullment!)
Weary sigh? More likely to be loud screams and imprecations?
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I hope it will motivate Twit to go full steam ahead with the publication of his book in 2022. If that won’t result in his and Twat’s
“cancellation”, I don’t know what would.
Miss Winter
Agree wholeheartedly with views already expressed here.
Allowing the American children of Harry and Megan to potentially have prince and princess titles is plainly ridiculous and will only allow Megan to exploit them and expose them to media for monetary gain.
The only reasonable path forward is to suspend their titles until they reach adulthood at which time if the situation has changed and they wish to become British Citizens and join the service of the Royal Family in the UK an arrangement and suitable title might be granted.
What other possible motivation other than sheer monetary gain could possibly drive them to want this, the ludicrously stretched out security claim is just a ruse that simply doesn't hold water.
They would actually make their children's lives misery by foisting titles upon them that will be seen as vacuous by both their American peoples and the British peoples. Tantamount to exploitation and child abuse.
Their children would likely ostracised and subjected to bullying at school and through their teenage years. Especially if they are included in 'reality' TV which is one of the only remaining monetary streams the dreadful Markles have left to them as all their other rainbow painted bubbles pop.
A `fraudulent marriage' is when a woman marries knowing she is not pregnant but lets her husband thinks she is - she is defrauding him.
There is also `sham marriage' where the parties collude to defraud the State, usually in immigration cases, British men being paid to marry would-be immigrants who have no right to or hope of being admitted to the UK. They split up after marriage and get a quickie divorce & both are happy, she has her visa, he a payout.
In the case of our less-than-happy couple, it could be argued that together they set out to defraud the Royal Family, the Government, the Taxpayers, in fact all the people of the Queen's realms.
Perhaps copper-bottomed proof of these scams has been found. If only...
Caroline of Monaco married both at city hall and in church, as religious weddings are not recognised in France (Monaco follows French law in a lot of matters). So, yes, she was married in a civil ceremony, but she also had a religious ceremony. She had to ask for an annulment from the Pope. Her second husband died while they were married, and she has stayed married to her third husband despite his chronic alcoholism.
Didn't the alleged `first Mr Markle' have an Italian sounding name? That suggests Roman Catholic to me.
Yes Joe Guiliano, and I made the same presumption although I was a bit timid to write it. No doubt the Italians in America used to be predominately Catholic (and maybe still are); certainly those in Italy are.
She was married to Joe.He annulled marriage legally on grounds of fraud because she did not reveal that she was infertile.
Pure speculation or is there any truth in it? I thought JJ Giuliano's mother paid her off to leave, although this doesn't exclude the above.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ubermouth6/status/1264750322804645890
Harry Markle writes: “Staff in the Montecito circus have also given accounts of how poorly they are treated and that no one wants to work there.” I have never read or heard any firsthand account by an employee in Montecito. Have any of you?
Camilla and Beatrice are new councillors of state
The twats have been Deep Sixed.
I always thought the first marriage to Joe G. was a collegiate (or before?) mistake That thankfully for the groom was rectified before his life was ruined. I know little about this guy, but his family must have money or else he wouldn’t have been of interest as a catch for *. I could imagine it well … after a few too many drinks, the young man starts thinking he’s in love and does something rash… Like sleep with her and in the cold light of day he’s sobered up but she’s got expectations now and we know from Harry’s experience that she doesn’t accept being left—SHE decides when she’s done with someone. If your tea is true, then the pregnancy Roose must’ve been found out, if she tried that, and why wouldn’t she because she never does anything original. Using sexual blackmail is her MO. Popstar Britney Spears had a first marriage to a high school friend that lasted for exactly 55 hours… The couple Ran off to Vegas and tied the knot almost certainly under the influence. It was a crazy weekend that got out of hand, but the parental unit intervened and got it annulled. I think something similar here, though I seem to have seen wedding pictures that would seem to indicate that it was planned for sometime and not a spur of the moment thing. But there’s confusion about that because it’s a possibility that the pictures that are floating around are actually senior prom pictures, because I think he was her high school boyfriend and date. Whatever happened, my money is on his parents smelling a gold digger and extricating their son. Narckle was in her early 20s when she got involved with Trevor and was with him for nearly a decade, so the Joe marriage was probably before they were 22. During this time she was meant to be at Northwestern… She would’ve been off to school half way across the country less than a month after she turned 18, that is of course if she’s telling the truth about matriculating at NW in 1999. Once there she immediately pledged an elite sorority, became an officer, took 2 majors and had 2 internships abroad…busy busy. When did she have time to shoehorn in a wedding? Presumably the fling with Joe was long over when she ditched her internship at the Argentinian embassy to runoff with a married man a week after her arrival.
Given that Narcle’s MO has been to dump relationships, jobs and cities anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 years, The fact that she stayed with Trevor for over nine years, and even married him for two of those is quite extraordinary for her. Considering the way she brutally dumped him by sending him her rings in the mail, it would be foolhardy to suggest that she actually cared for him…but She did stay with him for a long time by her standards. She was with him for most of her 20s, prime era for a sex kitten I’m really very surprised that she didn’t ditch him five years earlier.
Catherine is glowing. I love her red coat!
the BRF didn't use a candle to hide the twit, but something else entirely
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/david-beckham-why-join-12-hour-queue-queen-lying-in-state-090319671.html
I am just now watching my DVR of HMTQ's funeral. Sir Candle is performing magnificently.
May I confess surprise? Months ago, he said on a live that he wouldn't be addressing a certain conspiracy theory -- and given the context, I thought it was clear that he was referring to the "children." But now he's sharing moonbump photos and videos with 100,000 followers. Does he know something we don't know?
I've been a skeptic for years, but I've kind of given up on the moonbump as old news. As one of the Nutties pointed out recently, revealing the truth about the children -- assuming they exist, of course -- would be to violate the medical privacy of minors. Which seems to give us a stalemate. Now that it's back, however, I wonder if the pump is being primed for something.
The BRF or journalists who know the truth can't explicitly say that * was never pregnant. But they can keep the photos and videos in circulation and let everyone with eyes draw their own conclusions. From comments on Twitter, it seems that a lot of people are seeing these images for the first time. I suppose they are in *'s American target audience.
I enjoyed the picaresque litany of “Archie & Lili’s Day in Montecito. Lots of specific details there, but just as many things are omitted. The kids “eat the same thing every day”— But we aren’t told what this monotonous menu is, only listed mealtimes. Most of us have a daily breakfast, lunch, dinner and snack, But that only says “when” they eat, not what. Where is the avocado toast?
I’m sure any staff That have the misfortune of working for the Twunts have signed NDAs. But there seems to be little point in having the nannies sign NDA‘s if the Harkles are then going to invite these alleged friends to come and go freely, witness all their bizarre child rearing rituals and not make these alleged “friends“ sign a document that will legally prohibit them from spilling such tea to their nanny. Such a privacy obsessed couple doesn’t have confidants over, but if they did, what employer is gonna rush home to tell their nanny all the dish? I call bogus.
The specific items that are shared probably have been witnessed or personally experienced by any one who has had to provide childcare for the moneyed elite. Watch The Nanny Diaries for the Upper East Side of NYC version of this tale. Bored neurotic women with money and too much time on their hands who live vapid empty lives of shopping and beauty treatments and who never wanted to be mothers in the first place, which is why they had absolutely no problem spending five minutes a day with their kid and letting Nanny deal with them the other 23:55 of the day. Narcle aspires to this.
Beyond the bizarre practices detailed here, it requires us to believe that Narcle has got such a good— albeit a completely nameless and untraceable friend—That she confides in and asks advice from. Since when has Narc ever admitted that she doesn’t know something and asked for advice? Since when does someone who turns up to Royal engagements looking unkempt, greasy And high as a kite care so much about personal hygiene that she has to hose down her children after a snack? She insists on only organic food, and yet never takes them out into the sunlight or fresh air, or allows them to have interactions with other children? This is sounding very much like Flowers in the Attic as a child-rearing manual.
My immediate thought was that this is a Sussex plant. Yes, on the face of it it is supposed to be read as “cuckoo for Cocoa puffs”… But I could see easily Narcle putting something like that around. It paints a picture of her version of being an attentive mother. Stifling and micromanaging to the normal person, but with that level of detail it would be “proof“ to her way of thinking that she’s definitely got two kids. We know how she just can’t resist over gilding the lily even when it makes her look bad.
It was notable, quite remarkable actually, that a centerpiece of their engagement interview was a discussion of children--principally being 'very open' to creating a family through adoption and being Royal trailblazers for doing so. I pictured an Angelina Jolie-style United Colors of Benetton tribe and I think that's the word picture Markle was weaving.
I agree that they would have received a lot of sympathy had they admitted to being infertile, hired a surrogate or adopted, and genuinely didn't mind that those children weren't in the line of succession. It would also have been the "modern" thing to do, which would have been in line with the brand they were establishing for themselves. But narcs are gonna narc . . .
And a few years later, it was Princess Beatrice who got "to adopt" a non-white child, who, going by the tea, has been fully embraced by his "step-grandparents" and who attended the Jubilee concert like any other Royal child.
Watching "Appointment with Death" an Agatha Cristie novel inspired movie with Peter Ustanov as Poirot, a young Carrie Fisher and an imperious Lauren Bacall.
It was set during the coronation of Queen Elizabeth's father in Palestine and other exotic locales. It has a few nods to history and doses of Brit humor.
Need to catch up with the nutties on
magnificently. A woman in her prime!
Death on the Nile with a very young Mua Farrow is next.
And it is raining harder.
Thanks for sticking up for us redheads, Raspberry Ruffle!
@WBBM
Also "Unsound Mind" is an additional ground on which to file for a Civil Annullment in California. The Court would have to find "one or both of the spouses didn’t have the mental capacity to understand and give consent to the marriage, due to either impairment from drugs, alcohol or some other factor.
Hmmmm, let's see drugs? alcohol? mental ill.....
The plot thickens... This is what I came across on Twitter: She was married to Joe. He annulled marriage legally on grounds of fraud because she did not reveal that she was infertile.
The rumor has always been that his family insisted on an annulment and gave Liar a large amount of money to go away. I never heard of the reason being infertility before. It was always just "fraud." But the interesting thing about this Twitter rumor is it seems to be based on an article by the National Enquirer, which is the only American tabloid of any note because it's broken two different political scandals. (I know we've talked about this before on the board.)
I always assumed the annulment of her first marriage was legal and not religious, if only because the former can be relatively quick while the latter can take years, literally. A Catholic annulment process also brings the possibility of prisoners' dilemma, which I really never understood apart from the religious (Catholic) example which applied to Princess Caroline.
In her case, because she told the truth in her annulment papers and Philippe Junot lied, he was able to deny her an annulment for a really long time, including to her second husband Casiraghi. But he did ultimately come clean and admit he had seduced her as part of a dare or a bet (i.e., obvious grounds for an annulment) so that allowed her 3rd marriage to be in the church. If anyone thinks they can better explain the game theory behind prisoners' dilemma, please feel free!
What I'm more interested in is the involvement of the National Enquirer.
That is really curious. If someone in the U.K. really wanted to leak truthful information about Liar, that would be the perfect American tabloid to use.
In the last week or so there has been chatter on Twitter about the Sussex kids and the "of the body" requirement. I haven't thought anything of it until now.
It was always expected that the spouse of the Monarch would be a counselor as I understand it. Then the next one would be Prince William, the Prince Harry, and Prince Andrew. Beatrice moved up because Charles became King.
However rumors have circulated in the media Harry & Andrew might be debunked since they are not working royals and possibly replaced by Princess Royal, Anne and Prince Edward. I checked around the media just now and haven't seen anything announcing the demotion of PH & PA yet though.
Anyone see anything different than this?
My, the Kraken have been released! Not just one, either. It appears that a whole flock of them are circling the Deep Sixed, like vultures above a carcass. I shall be quite interested to find if the National Enquirer will be sued. I wonder if their behavior and harassment of the bereaved King at his mother's funeral was more than he could bear. Maybe it was the stupid PR leaks everywhere. The tacky tear pose for the camera when she couldn't be bothered to visit HRM QE2 in person has got to be way near the top of the annoyance meter. Grandma might forgive you, but daddy is gonna bring the paddle.
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Scobie is now claiming that the hapless one is threatening to leak all about private conversations with father and brother and what went on in private behind closed doors at the Palace if the family (i.e. the King) does not give them what they want. He is saying he will not stop until they get what they wanted, which I assume means everything they demanded in their manifesto.
Do you think this is coming from TBW, the hapless one or both?
So shady and twisty
Hard to make sense
without Magatha Mystie
This link shows Harry, in effect, owning his own blackmailing op. Fake news?
Thanks for the added details about Caroline of Monaco's first wedding. Either I didn't know or else I just didn't remember she also had a church wedding.
Beatrice and Camilla are now counsellors of state but H still is. This is what I've found:
But now Charles has ascended the throne as King, his Counsellors of State are his wife Queen Consort Camilla, Prince William, Prince Harry, Prince Andrew and Princess Beatrice.
Nothing in the DM or the Telegraph apparently. I found the info in the Express
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/1673002/princess-beatrice-queen-camilla-counsellors-of-state-king-charles-iii
I've not yet come across anything about marriage of those of `unsound mind' in English law. There's a view that personality disorders aren't mental illness, they're just the way someone is. The logic seems to be `They can't be cured so it's not an illness'. ie There's nothing `wrong ' with them - they've just never been `right'.
It reminds me of trying to get a replacement for a juicer which, although brand new, didn't work - it was switched on but completely dead. The vendor wanted to know how it had broken down - what had I done to it? It took a long time to convince them that it hadn't `broken down' because it hadn't worked in the first place.
I'm trying not to get excited about the marriage being fraudulent/sham - it's probably just wishful thinking on our part.
Very good writing about *'s relationship patterns (3.03 am) and 'the nanny diaries' - there is a film of that name, perhaps there could be another version. We never thought * was maternal at all. You can tell Catherine simply loves children, * not so much and she doesn't seem to even like her own, going by what @Sandie found. I suppose the children were/are a means to an end.
@Girl with a Hat
Thank you for the laugh with the photo of H, or rather a small portion of his head 😁. One of the comments is that it's photoshopped and after looking more carefully I think this is true. Harry does look too tall, as for the guardsman/grenadier, he does look incongruous among all the Royal Navy sailors. Still, a good find.
Not only is Catherine glowing but William looks very happy during their visit to Anglesey. He's very smiling and at ease. Watch the brief video.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11255929/Heartwarming-moment-Prince-William-cracked-jokes-congregation-members-Swansea-church.html
Not only is Catherine glowing but William looks very happy during their visit to Anglesey. He's very smiling and at ease. Watch the brief video.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11255929/Heartwarming-moment-Prince-William-cracked-jokes-congregation-members-Swansea-church.html
We'd like to see them down here soon. PC & C, as D&D of C, usually came to the county agricultural shows for Devon & Cornwall - ours is scheduled for 18th -20th May next year, at Exeter. I do hope there won't be a clash with the Coronation.
Some information on this website may be out-of-date following the death of Queen Elizabeth.
Counsellors of State
In the event that The Queen cannot undertake her official duties as Sovereign on a temporary basis due to illness or absence abroad, two or more Counsellors of State are appointed by Letters Patent to act in Her Majesty's place.
By law, Counsellors of State include the Sovereign's spouse and the next four people in the line of succession who are over the age of 21.
Counsellors of State are authorised to carry out most of the official duties of the Sovereign, for example, attending Privy Council meetings, signing routine documents and receiving the credentials of new ambassadors to the United Kingdom. However, there are a number of core constitutional functions that may not be delegated:
* Commonwealth matters
* The dissolving of Parliament, except on Her Majesty's express instruction
* The creation of peers
* Appointing a Prime Minister
History of Counsellors of State
The position of Counsellor of State was provided for in 1937 under the terms of the Regency Act. Prior to 1937, Regency Acts were drafted and passed only in necessity. As such, there had been nine separate Regency Acts to cover various eventualities since 1728. Shortly after George VI came to the throne in 1936, a new Regency Act was passed which provided a rule for all future reigns. It was at this time that the new office of Counsellor of State was created to cover short term absences where a regency would be unnecessary.
Current Counsellors of State
Counsellors of State are appointed from among the four adults next in succession (provided they have reached the age of 21).
The current Counsellors of State are The Prince of Wales, The Duke of Cambridge, The Duke of Sussex and The Duke of York.
Are they scraping the bottom of the barrel to hire cheap?
One of the comments is that it's photoshopped and after looking more carefully I think this is true. Harry does look too tall, as for the guardsman/grenadier, he does look incongruous among all the Royal Navy sailors. Still, a good find.
It may be photoshopped to show his head peeking out, but that busby(?) hat was definitely obscuring him most of the way along. While we were watching on the day, hubby asked why "the man with the big microphone" was walking where he was, I replied with "he has a very important job" and waited for the penny to drop. Hubby couldn't stop laughing when he realised H was right behind him and could hardly be seen. I have a photo of my tv with H completely hidden behind him, I remember sending it to my brother to give him a giggle.
Perhaps she said nothing about it in Jamaica, or her word was accepted , or they thought the ecclesiastical paperwork was enough. Perhaps the Palace had assumed due diligence had been elsewhere along the chain?
I think I've mentioned this before, but it may be relevant here. My cousin was dumped by her husband c.1960, when they were in Canada. He later moved to the US and `married' someone else, having divorced Audrey in Reno. Poor A suffered decades of poverty in the UK because he refused to support her and their young child. Thirty years later, errant husband died in US but my cousin received his State pension, as Federal law regarded her as still married to him. It was `tough luck' for the second `wife'.
Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps...
kerfuffle about Prince George. i find it kinda cute and kinda sad. growing up we bragged our mom was liz taylor and our dad a spy and we were all adopted. (big catholic family i think mom just liked dad a lot!). kids do that. the sad part is kids push back when they are being bullied and that statement should never ever be in the public space. bad katie nichols. interesting he never said better watch out because i’m gonna be king some day.
queen margarethe of denmark. is this a give me present we are all royals let’s stick together. stripping titles on second born and kids. love it.
Busbies are different, worn by Troopers of the Royal Horse Artillery, There's also something called a `shako', which isn't totally dissimilar but easily confused.
I see what you mean re the photo. When I looked carefully, it did look as if the guardsman could have been photoshopped in but if this is something you saw on television then the still from CBS news on Twitter is genuine. The guardsman does look out of place where he is standing/walking, though but it could be the angle of the photo.
"I'm gonna tell on you!" Sounds like an eight-year-old.
I'm struck by the eagerness of someone in Cornwall to meet the new Duke and Duchess of Cornwall . . . especially in contrast to what the people of Sussex must feel at the thought of the Dollars possibly coming to visit!
Is this wishful thinking? I would think this would be huge news? no?
Could it be true? possible either way
To have someone else make the claim for you in print/SM, well it would allows options. If it goes south, you to walk back on being able to say that you never said anything like that and the speaker can twist in the wind on the charge and it would lower their chances of ever being considered reliable as a source again.
my guess: point to TW
* may have been the architect of their downfall, but he has been the master builder!
He said/she said, well, we shall see but the tide has turned on these two along with their window of opportunity to lob bombs at the Firm unchallenged.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/994027-king-charles-told-to-open-lines-of-communications-with-threat-prince-harry
Nobody tells a king what to do.
"twist in the wind"
This is exactly what KC3 must do with the Despicable Duo, as far as the kiddie titles go. Say nothing. It will drive them nuts. The pressure from M will be unrelenting, eventually Hapless will turn up in the UK, begging Charles to address the issue. Charles3 should not give him any answer.
Ch3 should get vengeance. As in - "You effed with us, your family. Now we (I) am going to toy with you and your mistake of a wife. You pressured the BRF for this lavish marriage to a traitor. Now you must pay the price. Get back to me a few years from now."
"Thirty years later, errant husband died in US but my cousin received his State pension, as Federal law regarded her as still married to him. It was `tough luck' for the second `wife'."
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Actually two or more wives (former and current) can get widow benefits if they have been married long enough and how much they get can be different due to circumstances. As stated below a 2nd wife May or May not get benefits based on how long she was married to the deceased spouse."
"If you are the divorced spouse of a worker who dies, you could get benefits the same as a widow or widower, provided that your marriage lasted 10 years or more.
Benefits paid to you as a surviving divorced spouse won't affect the benefit amount for other survivors getting benefits on the worker's record.
If you remarry after you reach age 60 (age 50 if you have a disability), the remarriage will not affect your eligibility for survivors benefits.
If you are caring for a child under age 16 or who has a disability and the child get benefits on the record of your former spouse, you would not have to meet the length-of-marriage rule. The child must be your former spouse's natural or legally adopted child."
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/king-charles-iii-threaten-keeping-prince-harry-meghan-markles-inheritance-them-report-1706413
King Charles III is allegedly calling an emergency meeting with Prince William and Prince Harry following the burial of Queen Elizabeth.
By Nica Virtudazo @missnicamarie
09/26/22 AT 11:49 AM
King Charles III will demand a paternity test after speculations about Prince Harry being the son of Princess Diana's former lovers James Hewitt made rounds following Queen Elizabeth's death, a new report claimed.
Sources told Globe Magazine, in its latest edition, that King Charles III summoned Prince Harry and brought up the idea of doing the paternity test as he needs to get to the bottom of it once and for all.
An unnamed insider said, "Charles knew that Diana was sleeping with James during their marriage, but she always told him that it happened later on. He'd obviously heard the gossip about Harry being their love child."
King Charles III allegedly wants to know the truth though it may cost Prince Harry more than his father. The anonymous tipster shared a centuries-old stipulation that mandates that only proven heirs of the past monarch can inherit the royal estate.
It stated, "Basically, it means that one has to be of royal blood to inherit anything from the Queen, including royal jewels, properties and all other assets."
King Charles III is said to call an emergency meeting with Prince Harry and Prince William in which he'll threaten to keep Duke of Sussex and Meghan Markle's inheritance from them, including their kids – Archie and Lilibet.
The unidentified informant continued, "The royal family has to be 100 per cent certain that he's a blood relative." It shared that the meeting would likely end in tears, and to be confronted with the doubts of the man who raised him would "offend" Harry.
If King Charles III pursues his demand for a paternity test, Prince Harry would certainly turn to Meghan Markle for advice. The former "Suits" actress, as per the publication, may urge the Duke of Sussex to give into his father's wishes – if for no other reason than his own peace of mind.
However, Globe Magazine suggested that it may be too late already, especially since King Charles III and Prince Harry's relationship is already deeply fractured. The new monarch was allegedly livid when the Sussexes started their new life in a $14.5 million mansion in Montecito, California.
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Things reportedly reached a breaking point in 2021 when Prince Harry and Meghan Markle accused an unnamed senior royal family member of racism during their bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey. During the sit-down, the Duke of Sussex also divulged his father had "stopped taking" his calls and let him down emotionally.
King Charles III has yet to comment on the claims that he questions whether Prince Harry is his biological son. So, avid followers of Camilla's husband should take all these unverified reports with a pinch of salt until everything is proven true and correct.
So don't get too excited, chaps
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/queen-margrethe-denmark-strips-four-134803567.html
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a29386838/swedish-king-gustaf-just-stripped-grandchildren-royal-titles/
This shows great job selection skills on the part of the 5s/their protection team. Was he selected purely because of his skin tone? It's quite possible that the Harkles will use this to show that they need proper RPOs for their security. The bodyguard is an ex Metropolitan Police firearm officer. For non UK Nutties, 'Most police officers in the UK do not routinely carry firearms. Where firearms support is needed, it is carried out by specially trained and accredited firearms officers known as authorised firearms officers (AFOs).' (Met police website)
A bodyguard pictured with Prince Harry and Meghan is a former Met Police officer convicted of strangling his wife leaving her 'seconds away from death', MailOnline can reveal.
Pere Daobry, 51, was pictured driving the Duke and Duchess of Sussex in a Range Rover on September 5 as they left Frogmore cottage on their way to London’s Euston station.
Despite his important role protecting the high-profile couple Daobry was convicted at Colchester Magistrates Court in September 2016 of attacking his wife, Sarah Jay, a former Essex Police sergeant, after she declared that she no longer loved him.
The 6ft 7in bodybuilder only escaped imprisonment because he called 999 and confessed to his crime - while his wife committed suicide in 2019 after describing him as a 'lunatic'.
The revelation will raise eyebrows as Meghan has long championed women's rights and campaigned against gender-based violence. ...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11257971/Meghan-Harry-Bodyguard-pictured-Sussexes-ex-Met-officer-convicted-choking-wife.html
all plausible deniability and she woudl totally throw Scoobie Do under the bus if she was cornered.
and no doubt she should use "recollections may vary"
I found the valentine low piece interesting in that others were open to in theory a model of half in half out - york girls coudl have specific patronages but not be full time paid royals. Earn a stipend or cheaper rent The queen put her footdown regarding the harkles. clearly she didnt trust them to represent her. I do hope at least for some of the family they could do a half in half out. Mike and Zara are respectable, the york girls do have some important initiatives. Princess Anne may be feeling its time to start stepping back some of her work with the change of monarchs Just hope the harkles are not part of any of it.
KCIII has a lot on his plate and the government does too. Counsellors of State I think if very importanty, succession past the top four maybe less so. Problem is the harkles will skate by for a while because there are a lot of more pressing things to deal with - how will energy costs be impacted by the latest "sabotage" on the Nordstream pipeline. How fast will fracking start up in the UK. The plunge of the pound is gonna me a problem. Harkles will not be fully dealt with because they are quite frankly inconsequential for the immediate future.
now guards a member of the UAE royal family -
The offence was serious enough that he could have been jailed but he was yesterday handed a 12-week suspended prison sentence.
The offence was serious enough that he could have been jailed but he was yesterday handed a 12-week suspended prison sentence.'
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The mind boggles. I shouldn't be surprised, though, these days sentences are usually suspended and are derisory in any case. I suppose TBW must have been impressed by the fact he was employed by the UAE royal family. She couldn't have just anybody.
Having these two sociopathic rage monsters at loose in the world has become untenable. As distasteful as it is to threaten to Sue one’s own child into oblivion, this is what it has come to. Charles must Marshall all the legal minds at his command and let it be known to the Suxxit lawyers and every corporate entity in bed with the Traitorous toerags that the Crown is prepared to sue for defamation/security breach/etc. and that it means to prevail. Can any mere business or firm outlast the Crown’s pockets? It must be impressed upon everyone involved that the Crown will win.
Does anyone actually believe that Half witted Hazza, packed off to school and then the Army really possesses state secrets? Or is his whining going to be along the lines of…I hate my Dad’s second wife. She stole my bedroom at Highgrove and her kids are mean to me. Laura threw a shoe at me once and told me to get over myself. She missed and the shoe hit the wall. It left a mark. I have relived the trauma of this hurtful incident many times and I’m sure it contributed to my PTSD.
Charles has got to put this insurrection down ASAP. No more Nice Daddy.
Tarot by Andie says the cards on the Monteshitshow are very dark. She used the words ‘m****r-s*****e. I don’t even what to write them. It’s that bad.
https://jennysexposes.quora.com/A-super-injunction-I-was-offered-the-opportunity-to-meet-up-with-a-freelance-journalist-who-works-closely-with-a-well-k?ch=15&oid=83333884&share=7346a52b&srid=uZiRgb&target_type=post
I should have wrote this a long time ago but I definitely need to now that I am writing more because I'm on Dr. ordered bed-rest currently.
You have always Beem Amazing with your historical posts, even though as an American I have a lack of knowledge about the UK's rich and long history. But you are like a walking encylopedia with the depth and breadt of knowledge...it is truly impressive!
I appreciate learning history in and of itself, but my Father's heritage is Welsh and English and it makes me want to know more. My father's dream was to go to the UK (and get a Scotty dog too) but unfortunately he died too quickly (5 months of illness at age 72) from a fatal incurable rare disorder. At least I deliberately carried his last name throughout my life and I own a dog which looks like the spitting image of a West Highland White Terrier. The 'pupper' knew instinctively how to manuever my sheep and gently catch my loose rabbits or chickens with her front paw.
So here's a cheer for you and the wonderful efforts and time you have devoted to this blog!
It made landfall on Wednesday afternoon with maximum sustained wind speeds of 241km/h (150mph) near the city of Fort Myers.'
I hope all Florida Nutties can keep safe.
I second CatEyes sentiment. Thank you.
Charles has got to put this insurrection down ASAP. No more Nice Daddy.
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Yes, and the sooner the better.
I have been under the impression that the "issue" was dealt with years ago, and if you look at photos, H takes after PP at the same age. There is a resemblence. This was a silly article designed to inflame.
It is not lost on me the news on Twitter re: Queen Margrethe and her son. KCIII is playing a long game; the Harkles should take note.
Thanks for the Quora link. Interesting!
@KnitWit
Thanks for the movie recommendation on Tubi.I watched the first one and enjoyed it.
Hope any Nutties in Ian’s path are safe.
Hikari - have been on vaca (although posting ;-) ) Did i miss something new on the threats - other than scoobie do trolling charles about his new logo (petty so he's got nothing new) i didnt see where he is stirring the pot more than usual. If there are new threats i think they come from the mrs or she has planted things in the mr. she will make him throw the family under the bus people like her are good at making others cause problems (while she guides the puppet strings behind the scenes)
I agree. The best thing KCIII can do is to simply not respond to any of the Suck-It's demands, demands of any kind.
A new monarch's in town and the rats are starting to turn on each other. I think it's a foregone conclusion whose gonna win here but at what cost? I think they are still in England and are hardcore scrambling. Sh*ts getting real at Kermit's Haus and nobody's happy.
So King Charles drops them down the line on their website. I like the message he's sending to the MegaNuts: I ain't afraid or playing with you two idiots! Maybe I'm just an optimist but I really believe that the Queen's Mourning cooked their goose but good; only this goose is golden and is getting ready to drop a lot more Taylor Swift Easter eggs on them. Scoobie Snacks sure is playing nice on Twitter. Somebody got busted and sent to the Principal's office.
Heaven have mercy, not this again? Interesting that this reheated rumor should be making the rounds again (still). It's imperative to the Suxxit Toerag brand that he be the son of the King, so their side has no vested interest in stirring up this rumor again.
Or . . does *she*? The devaluation process of Hazza will be complete if she can obtain *proof* (or at least threaten to that he's a Royal b*st*rd. Then she herself can apply for an annulment on the basis of 'fraud'--"He told me he was the son of the future King, your Honor!" But--if Harry's not Royal (and for the purposes of the Royal family, the only 'Royal' that counts comes through paternity. Half Diana but not Charles is worthless, in Crown terms. Ouch, but true.
As far as I can tell, the *only* reason this rumor ever got traction was because of Harry's red hair. Obviously consorting with Hewitt was a huge mistake that Diana made but I believe both parties who swore and (he) continues to swear that Hewitt and the Princess did not meet until 1986 when Harry was two. I never believed that Diana would be stupid enough to get pregnant by another man, especially not before she'd secured her Royal spare. Harry and William do look very very different. If I hadn't known them since they were born, I might question if they shared the same parentage. Presumably nobody disputes that Diana is Harry's mother but the changeling doesn't look a thing like her. In William, we see the Spencer genes. Harry was a very odd looking baby . . but why are the doubters so hung up on his red hair? Look at pictures of the young Johnnie, Viscount Althorp--Red. From him, three of his four children get their carrot tops, and it's not like red hair is entirely unknown in the Windsor side, either. There is no red hair in the Queen's generation or among her children, with the two oldest boys getting her dark hair and Anne and Edward getting their father's fair coloring. But if we go back a few more generations, the red hair's there.
It might actually be a bit of Pyrrhic comfort to the RF, given the current odious circumstances, if HazNowt could be proven to not be theirs after all, but a malignant Cuckoo Child that didn't just Go Bad but was bad from the start. I never thought I'd say it, but I do wish Harry wasn't Charles's.
But now that the bad seed has grown up, he is the spit of Philip in his ectomorphic body frame and his angular features: his jawline, nose, teeth, etc. He's got Charles's close-set pale eyes. Maj. Hewitt is a stocky-framed, round-featured brown-eyed man. His auburn hair is quite dark, not the carrot top of H. To what must now be the everlasting regret of the Royal family, Harry is a Mountbatten. When I see a photo of Haz staring off into the middle distance with his forehead all scrunched up in anxious lines, he looks just like Charles doing the same expression.
I can't imagine the Palace either being the renewed source of this rumor about demanding a paternity test--but imagine if they DID. What better way to put the wind up the traitor's arse if Charles makes out like he is poised to publicly denounce HazNowt as his son and bust him down to Henry Fitzroy, Duke of B*st*rdy and Nowhere. Gee, he'd owe the Crown millions of pounds in restitution and forget about any spawn of his being a Royal Prince and Princess. And it goes without saying that his Duchess would be nothing and nowhere and nobody as well.
What if it's 'Take this bloody hatchet job of a book off the table and we will speak no more of questionable paternity and b*st*rds. Leave it up and you will wish you were never born.
I think we all wish that by this point.
BTW My cousin never divorced her husband because she was a devout churchgoer who wasn't going to break her side of her vows even if husband had. As she explained it to me, the pension people didn't recognise the Reno divorce which allowed her husband to `remqrry' so my cousin still counted as his wife. Perhaps I misunderstood it.
We,like most European nations, have a much longer history which is supported by documentary evidence than the US has and it has always fascinated me. Watching the Accession Council at work was a revelation - how it was connected with procedures of well over a thousand years ago was somehow deeply reassuring. We might seem old-fashioned but it's a reminder of how our constitution has evolved, abandoning the unhelpful and retaining the valuable.
I've been around a long time and my memory's not bad - the first public event I recall being discussed on the radio was the defenestration of Jan Masaryk in Prague (1948). The non-communist Czechs said he was such a tidy chap, he shut the window behind him as he jumped...
I do hope you get well better, it sounds as if your `Westie' is a good friend. I'm very much a dog person, I like sheep too.
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I think Harry's red hair was marked by virtue of Diana's unfortunate comment when reporting the first time Charles saw Harry in the hospital.
Diana said that Charles spoke: ‘Oh, it’s another boy, and it’s got red hair’ . At Harry’s Christening, he remarked to Diana’s Mother, Frances, “We were so disappointed, we were both so hoping for a girl”.
It was at this point that Diana said realised her marriage was over. In my opinion, in saying this to the world, she highlighted Harry's hair color and his birth that marked the end of their marriage.
Latest from CDAN: The battles raging between the alliterate one and her husband over the direction of some podcast episodes and his book, are epic. There are other people involved which is giving brand new insights into the relationship or the destruction of it.
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CDAN is a bit confusing to navigate. If anyone is interested the above blind is #12 from today 9/28/22
Some of the comments are great.
I've never been convinced of the allegations that Hewitt may be Harry's father yet I'm longing for a Deus ex Machina to descend from above, cut through the cr*p, and make things instantly right.
Heaven have mercy, not this again?
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That was exactly my reaction. I don't believe the article in the ibtimes. Anyway, even if King Charles III wanted a paternity test, this would be decided and done with the utmost secrecy. I agree with everything you wrote, particularly 'I never believed that Diana would be stupid enough to get pregnant by another man'. This is what I've always thought. And Hewitt's hair was dark red, mahogany, totally unlike Harry's strawberry blonde as a child. Funnily enough, the child known as Archie seems to have mahogany hair.
Yes, I can imagine the battles - H knows if the book is published, his future with the RF is gone. Edward VIII did a book (or two) and it did not get him back into the family fold, and perhaps gave him some spending money.
I am wondering if the future podcasts of * will actually contain an interview with her subject and less of a momlogue/ solioquey of how back * has it in her life.
some tea about the twat at Uvalde from a nurse who was there.
https://www.distractify.com/p/aaron-judge-ethnicity
An example for all of us.
those of you watching the hurricane news, take a little break and watch the time that Prince Charles presented the weather on Scottish telly
Harry, Meghan desperate to edit Netflix show, memoir after Queen’s death
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are making a dramatic u-turn on their upcoming projects in the wake of Queen Elizabeth’s death, multiple sources told Page Six.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been working on a docuseries as part of their multi-million dollar Netflix deal for more than a year. Netflix chiefs — who have not even officially announced the Sussex project yet — had hoped to air the docuseries in December after the fifth season of “The Crown”on Nov. 9. Now, we’re told the couple want to make more edits to the hotly anticipated show, which would potentially push back its release till later in 2023.
Harry’s memoir, originally scheduled for release from Penguin Random House in November, has already been pushed back until sometime next year.
Many royal experts have said that Harry’s father, King Charles, will hold off giving the title of prince and princess to the Sussex children, Archie, 3, and Lilibet, 1, until the couple’s various media projects are out.
While the Sussexes were part of the usual editing process on both the show and the book well before the monarch’s death, sources said the couple is keen to take out or downplay much of what they have said about King Charles, Queen Consort Camilla, Prince William and his wife Kate, the new Princess of Wales.
One Hollywood industry source told us: “A lot of conversations are happening. I hear that Harry and Meghan want the series to be held until next year, they want to stall.”
I wonder if the show could even be dead in the water at this point, do Harry and Meghan just want to shelve this thing?”
One highly-placed Netflix insider revealed: “Netflix has been keen to have the show ready to stream for December. There’s a lot of pressure on (Netflix CEO) Ted Sarandos who has the relationship with Harry and Meghan, to get this show finished.”
Reps for Netflix and the Sussexes were unavailable for comment.
Oh, dear . . . All this might have been funny (but cruel) when Harry was a boy, but it's completely insane now. Harry resembles both King Charles and Prince Philip. And frankly, for all of Diana's instability and self-description of "as thick as two planks," I think she was intelligent enough and moral enough not to pull a stunt like that on her husband and on the British people.
Let's also state the obvious: Given all the rumors swirling around since Harry emerged from the womb with red hair, it would be ridiculous to think that he wasn't paternity tested at some point in his childhood. Maybe it's protocol to do it to all royal babies at birth and the public just isn't told about this.
I really don't think there's anything to this "report." It reminds me of when my mother is newly frustrated at the Dollars and asks me (yet again): "Are we sure he's really Charles's son?" I wish I could say that it was written because BP is leaking something about "paternity tests" with respect to *'s "children," but that doesn't even seem to be it.
The case of Princess Madeleine of Sweden is particularly interesting. When she married an American and decided to raise her children in the US, Swedes were already asking questions about her children's status. The youngsters may have been entitled to be called Prince and Princess . . . but unlike their Swedish-raised cousins, they would presumably play no role in Swedish public service either by their mother's side or as adults. (Princess Madeleine herself lives pretty much as a private citizen.)
This move also highlights the concept of a royal family as servants of the people rather than some rarified upper class that consolidates its power by breeding. (Cough * cough) It would be a fantastic thing for King Charles to do for the UK. It would also send an unexpectedly feminist message that a royal woman's worth is not "of the body," but in her actions made in service to the Crown and to its subjects.
(Cue the shreiking from California: "Service is UNIVERSAL!" Hey, if you want to serve, then go ahead and serve. But titles were never universal. Pick a lane.)
It was at this point that Diana said realised her marriage was over.
I do think that Charles's comment at the Christening was an awful thing to say about his new baby, but remember that Diana had misled him for months about Harry's sex. It wasn't a mere sin of omission; she played along that she was pregnant with a daughter up Harry was born. Given how much she had concealed from him, it's perfectly plausible that he thought she, too, had expected a girl and was disappointed to get a boy.
I agree with everything you [Hikari] wrote, particularly 'I never believed that Diana would be stupid enough to get pregnant by another man'.
Ditto here.
I can't for the life of me figure out why Harry's supposed dubious paternity is making a come-back now.
Spotify still isn't editing to my knowledge (not that they run these things by me when they decide), so now I'm curious as to what she said that has Harry so invested in the "direction of some podcast episodes."
My money is on Catherine getting slung under the double decker bus, especially on "Crazy angry black woman," and "Bitch." I really don't see how the Queen would come up directly, but wtf knows.
I don't see at this point how Meghan would have any control over the content either way, especially after how long it took them to get the shitty podcast in the first place. Plus they WANT the inflammatory content. It's the only reason they contracted with them in the first place.
Meanwhile, I have also heard a bit about what's going on with Harry's book. He doesn't want it to publish now because he wants to dial back on the bits about his family.
Meghan wants it published yesterday because she doesn't give a fuck about anyone's family, and most importantly, THEY NEED THAT PAYCHECK.
Like with Meghan's podcast, I personally don't see how at this point he can even negotiate publication, and I really don't know how he can negotiate it to TONE DOWN the shit about his family because the only reason anyone would have Harry write anything other than a coloring book would be to TURN UP the shit on his family.
Again, Harry was wanting to tone down the book even before Her Majesty died, and I heard that was because in the event of divorce, he knows he needs his family, and he knows somewhere deep in his barely functioning mind that they are headed for divorce.
While they were in the UK, Meghan managed to talk him back to her side, pouring on the love and affection and the "protect me Harry" routine while also pointing out all the slights that his mean family had done to him and egging him on about no uniform, no ERII on the uniform, lets meet with Charles, you're going to get slighted in the Will, etc.
However, at the time it was to keep him on the line a bit longer so that once he gets the pay out on the book and gets whatever inheritance he's gonna get, she'll get half. Since they've been home, she's just been pissing him off more and more.
And he's starting to remember why he wanted to go home and why he misses his family, and the uniform shit is starting to look as petty as it is, or that's a mix of what I've heard and what I think.
So I think they're pretty much yelling at each other about something neither of them can control. The brand new people involved are probably a slew of people at Spotify and Penguin who are watching these assholes go at each other and thinking to themselves, "Well fuck, SecondhandCoke was right. They WILL announce their divorce by March 2023."
Speaking of which, my source said two separate colleagues in Santa Barbara have mentioned a large moving sized van outside of Harry and Meghan's but it could have been furniture delivery or 16 new toilets or something.
Don't know how they'd afford to buy new furniture or 16 new toilets given the dire financial straits they are allegedly in, but that's none of my business... until it is, at which time I'll share it here.
Now all of this is with a great big ALLEGEDLY, but time will tell...
@GABikerGirl said Red hair sperm donors are ALMOST non existent.
I found this at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#Origins -
In September 2011, Cryos International, one of the world's largest sperm banks, announced that it would no longer accept donations from red-haired men due to low demand from women seeking artificial insemination.
Red hair is strange: I started mahogany red but it changed naturally over the decades -dark brown to brown-black, to iron grey, to white, to a rather nice pale blonde now. I have been auburn (out of a bottle) which suited me because I've got a redhead's fair-but-freckled skin.
Mum had black hair, Dad was mahogany in his 30s but greyed early.
My husband's family (Scots) are mostly in the range sandy to ferocious ginger, the latter usually get rid of it by bleaching.
A little photo gallery of MM with her first (official) husband. Gen from the comments: “Evil never dies but it does get remarried.”
As for inheritance, wills, etc., it's my impression that it's very hard to pry wealth away from the RF, hence the almost medieval reliance on primogeniture. Breaking up assets is the road to poverty in the minds of the kind of person raised in such circumstances. My guess is any inheritance from the Queen for the 5s would be quite modest. Can't imagine why people keep harping on it.
If Mrs. 5 expects a big divorce payout, she should look at Fergie's circumstances. Diana was the mother of a future king, & her settlement was relatively modest even at the time she divorced Charles. Wives of very rich men in the UK have gotten much more generous amounts, & UK courts seem to be becoming more reluctant to enrich wives at the expense of the husband these days. As to a California divorce, my guess is that the RF's lawyers have already looked at what could possibly happen in the case of a 5s divorce & acted to circumscribe the damage Mrs. 5 could do. If the children are genetically Harry's, they will be taken care of.
SecondhandCoke's take on the recent CDAN item:
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As far as that goes, H/M saw, were in awe of the majesty of The Queen's funeral etc. The outpouring of crowds to see Her the last time. All the pomp and circumstance. All the dress uniforms worn by the Royals and the notables and dignitaries. Religious and otherwise. This made a large dent on M. She could not ignore this. Harry felt is 10x more.
So now they are running scared. And want revise revise revise Spotty, Netfix and Hapless' dreaded book.
Charles3 has been so well received, because UK is in crisis. The Royalty represents timeless stability. In a time of shifting Prime Ministers, a plunging British Pound, electricity rates sky rocketing along with mortgage rates and interest rates, gas pipeline sabotage, a Ukraine invasion.
Bluntly put, The Queen chose to pass at a (the) best time for King Charles to take the Royal reins. (cliché alert) Now it is up to Charles to do his best job, but at his age take proper time outs too. My take is that Charles will do just fine, God willing. God save the new King!
As always the top priority of H/M is getting money and their kiddies titles. The next months, as a cold winter comes will be interesting. Their chaotic money grabbing obviously is in large contrast to the difficulties of the British people.
See we are trying to get rid of anything defamatory now give us the titles for the kids, Duke of Edinburg for us, a pile of $$$, Rols Royce fleet, all the tiaras, platoon of security, army of staff, and apartments at Windsor castle. We can be nice as long as we get whatever want.
Then release everything afterwards because "contracts" and more $$$. The Sussex will NEVER stop trying to blackmail the RF. The RF may be embarrassed but it only reveals how awful the pair were to start. Let them slash their own credibility and reputations. The rest of the RF will recover. There is no other way around it, one day there won't be anything left to give and everything will come out anyways.
However, unlike Bower's book, Low's book was almost immediately available on websites like Barnes & Noble & Amazon USA for pre-order. I have no idea how these rollouts are handled, just made assumptions. Can publishers get books fast tracked internationally if they anticipate a big seller? I haven't a clue.
I do have several UK murder mystery series that I download regularly, & they always have a pre-order period of a few months here in the USA, but mysteries are more of a niche item, & aren't blockbusters, so I thought they might be lower down on the priority list than something which is quite topical. St. Martin's might not be expecting big sales here in the USA. The RF might not be as big a draw here as they are in Europe, another miscalculation by *.
You know they are not good for planning ahead or thinking long term. It seems that they are just complacent thinking nothing would.change for years.
And we all know what happened to Fredo....
Small, ephemeral fry, fish in a far bigger pond than they realised, dwarfed by giant fish which have been around for centuries, capable of swallowing them for a snack.
Gasping, grasping guppies.
1. Re:. “The paternity testing”… Are we sure it was meant for H or for ‘the children’ in light of the titles brouhaha? I didn’t read the original source that was posted making the allegation, But we can be sure that sometime in the past 38 years, if the royal family had doubts about Harry’s paternity, they’ve already quietly double checked it. Would have been simple as pie to get samples from Harry and Charles when Harry was a tyke. They wouldn’t have needed a sample from Hewitt; if it came back as “not-Charles”, It would’ve been game over for Diana. That’s ancient history but the matter of the providence of Harry’s alleged children is very au courant.
2. It’s very funny, and sexist frankly, that well red hair is very desirable on a little girl, not so for a boy. I am Magine that Charles would’ve been delighted with a little red haired girl. Look at how cute “Lilibet-whoever-she is"is... Though I continue to chuckle at her resemblance as I see it to film Director Ron Howard--A famous ginger bloke.
3. The announcement by Queen Margarethe Removing titles from her grandchildren not in the direct line of succession couldn’t have come at a better time to bolster Charles’s Intention to do the same. The two royal houses may have even consulted on the matter due to their close ties. I’m sure the Danish court is Very sympathetic to Charles’s plight with the toxic Twunts.
4. Whatever happens with the TT’s Various pathetic and vindictive little projects, Charles needs to remain steadfast. Let them publish Harry’s unadulterated reminiscences; let them prance around on TV for Netflix cosplaying their version of an American royal family. In the wake of their utterly shameful behavior at the Queen’s funeral And with all of the demonstrated lies and machinations being uncovered, their credibility is shot. Harry’s grievances feel real to him, but honestly I don’t know what he can reveal that he thinks is going to topple His fathers throne. Camila is a witch who abused my mom and oh yeah daddy and grandpa killed Mummy!
If that last thing is the worst in his quiver, I hope the readership will remember that The likelihood of a 12 year old boy with learning difficulties correctly reading a situation or having any sort of genuine British intelligence… Meaning the governmental kind… Is nil. Harry’s tales out of school are going to be untrustworthy Because he has proven himself untrustworthy. He’s proven himself to be willing to say anything for money even when it’s complete bollocks. He could possibly comment authentically that he saw William take drugs… But of course as a person with a known drug problem for decades, that would be suspect as well. Really if the only truthful thing that emerges from this book is that William tried some reefer And said some disparaging things about Kate during one of their break up periods, I think the royal family will be able to get past it, because this is the true level of Harry’s real knowledge about anything negative. All the rest is going to be made up lies from a whiny brat mad at Dad.
The rest of the RF have years of steadfast loyal service to stand on. She has nothing but a dimwitted narcissistic prince with mommy issues and granduous ego. If he ever went back home, he will never be trusted again. Just a shadow in the family at best.
There is a part of me which thinks they had no plan for when QE passed.
I think you're right, and it still blows my mind when I think about it. Queen Elizabeth was in her 90s when the Dollars were married. Did they really think the status quo would last forever? (It's especially ironic, given how much they were doing to upset the status quo themselves!)
It was people from all over, all ages, all colors. Lots and lots of young people, the Harkle target market.
"Maybe that registered that they were guppies compared to the real deal."
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Oh nooooo, not "guppies", they are my favorite fish pet. The dastardly duo are more like the bad 'Black Mamba' snakes in Africa and the Royal family are the majestic Lions (Lions are even on some of their Coat of Arms).
Or if you want a fish comparison, they are like the Puffer fish (which is toxic) and the honorable royals are like the majestic whales of the sea.
From a Guppie Lover! Lol
the twit in Afghanistan saying how jealous his brother is of him and other issues, too long to list
https://twitter.com/Knesix
Countess Alexandra, Prince Joachim's ex-wife and the mother of two of his children, has spoken out against Queen Margrethe's decision. She described herself as "shocked" by the decision and said: "The children feel ostracised. They cannot understand why their identity is being taken away from them." Her use of "we" in other statements makes it sound as if she is also speaking for her ex-husband and his new wife. It also suggests that Queen Margrethe didn't properly discuss this change with her younger son's family.
I confess that my own initial reaction was also quite negative. (Any positive things I have to say about it arise from an ability to argue the other side.) Stripping people of existing titles seems punitive -- and when we take something away that people have had since birth, it does chip away at their identity. For Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix, who are in their early 20s, I imagine the shock of this announcement is akin to finding out at that age that you were actually adopted.
Someone who is a bigger royal watcher than I am thinks that Countess Alexandra is just stirring the pot for attention. As I know hardly anything about her, I don't have an opinion in that area. But I am also struck by how differently the Swedish royals and the Danish royals are taking what is essentially the same news. Prince Carl Philip and Princess Madeleine released statements in support of the decision, Madeleine even saying that it had been "planned for a long time." Perhaps the lines of communication in the Danish Royal Family weren't so clear and open.
For what it's worth, I believe the best way forward would have been to let everyone keep titles that they have had since birth, but to reserve all future titles only for the children of the direct heirs.
You can order the book through the Book Depository and get it a week or spatter it comes out in October.
12.10pm: Liz Truss is informed in the Commons that the Queen is ill
12.35pm: A statement is released by Buckingham Palace, announcing that the Queen is under medical supervision at Balmoral after doctors became 'concerned for her health'. A Palace spokesperson said: 'Following further evaluation this morning, the Queen's doctors are concerned for Her Majesty's health and have recommended she remain under medical supervision. The Queen remains comfortable and at Balmoral.'
12.47pm: A statement is released by Clarence House, confirming that Prince Charles and his wife Camilla would travel to Balmoral. It said: 'The Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall have travelled to Balmoral'.
12.48pm: A minute later, Kensington Palace announces that Price William will be travelling to Balmoral. The statement read: 'The Duke of Cambridge is also travelling to Balmoral.'
1.55pm: A spokesperson for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex confirms that the couple will be 'travelling to Scotland'. While the initial statement mentioned 'Scotland', it did not make directly make mention of Balmoral. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex were due to attend the WellChild Awards ceremony in London on Thursday evening, but changed their plans to travel to see the Queen.
2.39pm: Prince William, Prince Andrew, Prince Edward and Sophie Wessex take off from RAF Northolt.
3.10pm: The Queen is pronounced dead
3.50pm: The jet carrying William and other royals lands at Aberdeen
4.14pm: A news alert by the Press Association (PA) said that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were travelling to Balmoral 'separately' from other royals.
4.30pm: Liz Truss is informed of the Queen's death
4.39pm: Less than 30 minutes later, PA issue another news alert, quoting an unnamed source, saying that that the Duchess of Sussex would not travel to Balmoral with the Duke of Sussex. The source said that Prince Harry would be making the trip by himself. A source said the Duchess could potentially join Harry in Scotland at a later date, following what PA described as a 'change of plan'.
5pm: Prince William, Prince Andrew, Prince Edward and Sophie Wessex arrive at Balmoral
5.35pm: Prince Harry takes off from Luton
6.30pm: The Royal Family announces via social media site Twitter that Queen has died 'peacefully' at Balmoral at the age of 96.
6.46pm: Prince Harry lands at Aberdeen Airport on a private jet from Luton
7.52pm: The Duke of Sussex arrives at Balmoral
Unless the hapless Prince was not contactable for 3 hours. Who would put themselves in that position considering the circumstances?
No idea if you are affected by the hurricane currently hitting the US, but hope all is well.
I don't know why there is a difference in her statement and the death certificate
The latest Palace Confidential is a nice mix of news and views.
Prince Joachim is another Harry, jealous of the older brother.
It´s no coincidence that he was sent abroad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuKH5igYBEc
She reminds us of the Dollars' earliest post-Megxit forays into charity work -- when they got transportation at the charities' expense, showed up long enough to have photos taken of them, and then zipped off again. They haven't been able to do that since word of their opportunism got around. And perhaps that was small peas to them anyway. Now they're playing a new "charity" game: They tend to donate money only when they can get an award for it.
An award from GQ is just scraping the bottom of the barrel, though. Is that really the best that they could afford these days?
3. The announcement by Queen Margarethe Removing titles from her grandchildren not in the direct line of succession couldn’t have come at a better time to bolster Charles’s Intention to do the same. The two royal houses may have even consulted on the matter due to their close ties. I’m sure the Danish court is Very sympathetic to Charles’s plight with the toxic Twunts.
The Danish Royalty are going to do it their way, independent of what is going on in Great Britain. You are right that Charles3 sees this and gives him all the more reason to never give the Dastardlies' children titles. My bet he will not. These are American children, growing up in America. Yes, one born in America and one born in the UK. But they are being raised American. (as I was) It is absurd to grant overseas children English Royalty titles. In fact, it is repulsive and will weaken KC3's reign as King. With his slimmed down monarchy and all.....
If the Duo make some more false moves, their titles might get stripped too. To the extent that they can. The new PM Liz Truss is conservative. I saw her do a nice and legitimate curtsy to The Queen at Sandringham. Looks to me that LT will support what KC3 (and prince William) wants to do as far as real revocation for H/M goes.
LT needs the UK to look strong. The "guppies" sniping at the monarchy makes the UK look weak. So they are on the outs for the UK, they must live in Montecito and be happy with this much.
This isn't the first time Joachim has "gone rogue." When he was sent to France, the Danish court announced the news as if he were all for the move -- only for him to hint to the press that he was unhappy with it. This was reported in the context of his poor relationship with his older brother, Prince Frederick. And @D1 is right: Recalling that the media then wondered whether he would ever go back to Denmark gives me Dollar vibes!
I do still feel bad for his children. I'm reminded a little of Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie being told that they would not get to be working royals, after believing from birth that they would. It's not that they felt entitled to that life, but that they suddenly lost a chunk of their identities and had to reconstruct them almost from scratch. This must have factored heavily into the Wessexes' decision to have their own children styled differently. Why give them the identity of Prince or Princess, if it is not what will define their futures?
On the other hand, Prince Joachim doesn't seem to have anyone to blame but himself for his poor children's shock. He knew that relations with his family were very strained. He had been "strongly encouraged" to go to France for what was effectively an exile. He was unpopular with the Danish people. He had probably been told very clearly in private that his children ought to expect a future very different from that of their cousins. And yet he doesn't seem to have prepared them for this. I hope they all prove to be smarter and more emotionally resilient than their father.
Prince Joachim is another Harry, jealous of the older brother.
It´s no coincidence that he was sent abroad.
Long gone are the days when younger brothers were sent abroad to join the crusades!
But in all seriousness, Harry and Prince Joachim still have pretty cushy lifestyles. In the latter's case, he still gets a monthly allowance of over 315,000DKK! While it's certainly true that they will never be equal to their older brothers, they were both still dealt a majorly good hand in life. It's a real tragedy that they can't be happy.
I guessthe earlier died was when hM died , as witnessed by those around her.
The later time would be when the the doctors examined her and formally pronounce her dead.
Prince Joachim claimed he was given five days' notice about the change. I think Queen Margaret he's decision makes sense, his older brother Prince Frederik will be the next monarch.
I'm not sure the was 'sent' abroad, I read his wife is French and they live in Paris, maybe that's why.
Lady C has said that the Queen died at 14:37
I don't know why there is a difference in her statement and the death certificate
@GWAH: I wonder if the docs attempted any CPR or other such measures to satisfy Charles and Anne. If so, it could have delayed the decision by Charles and Anne to let their mother go from this life.
@CatEyes I have nothing against guppies (I rather like them, too), but their descriptive powers are too perfect for ‘little fish in a big pond’ in this scenario.
The Scandinavian Royal Houses have been streamlining for several years, while Charles has been firing warning shots about following suit. I think “Aunt Daisy” in Denmark likely fast-tracked her timeline to help Charles out. Let’s hope he uses her timing to roll out hi is slimmed down Monarchy. I think the majority of the citizens will certainly support it.
I meant Queen Margarethe's decision (autocorrect) upthread.
I hadn't thought of it like that before.
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Re the departure of the flight to Aberdeen - I saw one report that William took charge of things. They gave H a reasonable amount of time for H to appear, then Wmm said they'd waited long enough it was time to take off, so they did.
Another version I saw was that none of the royal party wanted H on the plane with them ...
Since we don't have courts in the US, anything close to it might appear cool and enticing.
I was trying to make a point about insignificance of their attempts to create an alternative court. It may appear grand until you compare it to the real thing ... and then it comes off as just a bad copy.
And the attempts to blacken the reputation of certain people - that comes off as more elementary school level thinking.
Re the departure of the flight to Aberdeen - I saw one report that William took charge of things...Another version I saw was that none of the royal party wanted H on the plane with them ...
I read somewhere it was the weather. And when they got to Scotland, the weather again prevented them from taking a helicopter to the estate, and they had to drive instead.
Do we have any Nutties in the London metro area who can confirm?
I was wondering why our wind gusts were getting stronger instead of weaker, and Ian has turned into a hurricane again. Just when I thought that Ian's fangs were pulled, they spring back. (Much like some former royals that I've read about...)
The kids were wondering why we didn't get many eggs today. I told them the eggs were blown back into the hens before they could finish laying them.
JAN MOIR: It was clear that there was no forgiveness for the warring factions as they gathered for the Queen's funeral... So who are the REAL victims in the Sussexes' poisonous royal soap opera?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11264359/JAN-MOIR-REAL-victims-Sussexes-poisonous-royal-soap-opera.html
The day the Queen died it was raining heavily at Balmoral, the news presenters all had brolly’s to keep them dry…or at least they were under something. So this could be why no helicopter was used to travel from the airport. 🥴
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63073983
The sculptor of the King’s portrait is Martin Jennings, known for figures of John Betjeman at St Pancras Station, Philip Larkin in Hull and George Orwell outside Broadcasting house. Also some rather fine commemorative figures of women, including Mary Seacole.
There's an inscription on the wall behind the figure surely has a special resonance for us:
(in) George Orwell's (own) words "If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear", from an unused preface to Animal Farm.
Discussion has also started about a statue of Queen Elizabeth, and where to put it. The Empty Plinth in Trafalgar Square has been suggested - but dismissed by others because the area's just a `traffic island'. Apparently, HM didn't want to be depicted in a tiara or similar.
I hope that somewhere there will be one of her in a headscarf, celebrating her humility, either standing (wearing tweed skirt and woolly jumper) or on one of her native ponies (Fell or Highland). That would be the antithesis of all those triumphalist equestrian statues of generals on their chargers that the woke want removed. I expect the animal-rights lot, who think we shouldn't even have pets, will still object though.
Why is everyone tiptoeing around the issue or treating it as if it is some unsolvable mystery?
This is my guess: He was supposed to be on the plane with the others. There was conflict about her insisting on being included. While that plane waited for the prince, the duo arranged their own flight. The waiting plane eventually took off without the prince. (The delay meant that Andrew and Edward were not able to say goodbye to their mother.) Why she conceded and let him go alone is a mystery to me. His father was not able to contact him because he was refusing to accept those calls and/or he was constantly on the phone to TBW and various staff as he prepared a statement and made arrangements to stay in the UK. That Charles does not have a cellphone has nothing to do with not being able to contact his son - an aide places his calls for him and simply hands over the phone when contact has been made.
He was wearing a black suit and tie when he got off the plane so he knew the Queen was dead and had enough time to dress in mourning gear. The occupants on the other plane were not in mourning dress when they disembarked to drive to Balmoral, even though they had been informed mid-flight that the Queen was dead. They were genuinely trying to get there as soon as possible; the hapless prince and his wife seemed to treat the trip as a PR exercise to enrich themselves (all about optics).
Both Denmark and Sweden Monarch’s have recently slimmed down who’s part of the royal court/family and who isn’t. Kudos to them both…let’s hope King Charles takes note! 🤗
This rumour has now reached all the tabloids. I say release the kraken - the memoir and the reality show that they call a documentary about their love story. They did not seem to mind doing so while the frail Queen was alive.