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A New Year

So often in life at the start of new year, there is this tendency to focus on what changes will be made in the upcoming year.  So we create this list of what we will start to do and what we aren't going to do any more.  This year is going to be so wonderful and better than the last one.  Or so we plan (giggle - like we really have all that much control over external forces which grind forward like a glacier over our intentions?).

Apparently January 17th is known as Ditch your New Year's resolutions day.  Oh well.  Carry on.

Pivot away from the future:

So I was thinking about the past year in general and how crazy it was for myself, friends and family outside of Nutty life.  Great drama.  From that, I started thinking about what this year has been for the Royal Family.

The first Christmas without Prince Philip.  The great Jubilee the likes of which we won't see again.  The Queen passed.  That was huge and emotional.  And some interestingly phrased announcements, or some omissions(?),  from the Palace.  Plans are in motion for the coronation.  People are moving on.  

And then, there was the couple who live (should we say allegedly?) in Montecito.  What changes in their lives?  More people have come and gone. A few more pictures of the kids.  Many, many photos of them out and about, some familiar and others are new.  Lots of things have leaked out while others leapt out in Netflix.  People are starting lists to track the lies - hardly a positive move to make one look good.

The Andrew Wallenstein's Variety article was a tad stunning in some ways.  It came at a time of year  when there is a focus on nice articles which are positive human interest, tug at heart strings and lovely photo ops of how public people are celebrating the holiday season and being doers of charitable deeds.  Instead, he talked of how bored people will be with the pity party it's not my fault, I have awful family members  (and, ours is a love story unlike any other was or will ever be).  And that's a serious roadblock to explain away in any and all future pitches - whether they be Hollywood, tech, political aspirations or a direction we don't know about yet.  

On the heels of that, the recent article by Joanna Weiss and then that Spiked piece. Notice how the sugars don't seem to have turned on Variety the way they have the Joanna piece (demanding an apology).  That's interesting because the people who read Variety are people the couple appear to want and need to move up to the next levels or forward after all this.  That won't be an easy to bury on the net.

We are seeing a distinct rip tide of public articles pulling them down and farther from the coastline of positive high end pr of picture perfect attire, sunsets in the background in a wonderful (controlled for public viewing) life.  No longer is it just this or that British paper.  No, the negative articles are seeping into the US markets now.  And that, is trouble my friends.  Right here in Montecito.  




Comments

CatEyes said…
***Breaking News re: 'Spare'...an inflamatory Extract article in Daily Mail

Prince Harry says brother William physically attacked him after calling Meghan 'difficult' and rude' in 2019 bust-up: Duke of Sussex was 'knocked to the floor' and left with visible injuries he claims in new book Spare
Prince Harry has claimed his brother William grabbed him by the collar and threw him to the floor during a heated argument over his wife Meghan Markle.

In an extraordinary excerpt from his upcoming autobiography Spare, Harry recalls what he describes as a physical attack by his sibling, which he claims left him with visible injuries.

The furious row allegedly broke out at his London home in 2019, during which William, the now Prince of Wales, is said to have branded Meghan 'difficult', 'rude' and 'abrasive'.

Harry accused his brother of 'parroting the press narrative' about his wife before a screaming match ensued, ending in a physical altercation.

The extract has been published by the Guardian. It is not known how the newspaper obtained an early copy of the book, given that the publisher has gone to great lengths to prevent leaks.

In one dramatic extract, Harry writes that William 'grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and… knocked me to the floor'. The Duke of Sussex claims he was left with a visible injury to his back.

The brothers, according to Harry, had met to discuss 'the whole rolling catastrophe' of their relationship and struggles with the press.

But the heir to the throne arrived to Nottingham Cottage 'piping hot', Harry writes.

The Duke had been living in the home, known as Nott Cott and situated in the grounds of Kensington Palace, at the time of the alleged incident.

When they began arguing about Meghan, Harry claims William was not being rational, leading to a shouting match. Harry said he told his brother he was unable to understand why he was not happy with being 'the spare', accusing his brother of acting like an heir. William told him he was trying to help him.

Harry said: 'Are you serious? Help me? Sorry – is that what you call this? Helping me?'

It was that comment, according to Harry, which infuriated William, causing him to swear while stepping towards him.
CatEyes said…
Continued...

Harry said he was scared and retreated to the kitchen as William followed.

He claims he gave William a glass of water and told him: 'Willy, I can't speak to you when you're like this.'

He writes: 'He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. 'I landed on the dog's bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.'

It was then that William told his brother to hit him back, a reference to scraps they had as children, Harry writes.

The Duke said he refused to retaliate and that William left, before returning 'looking regretful' and apologising.

When the future king left for the final time, Harry claims he 'turned and called back: ''You don't need to tell Meg about this.'''

Harry says he responded with: 'You mean that you attacked me?'

He says William added: 'I didn't attack you, Harold.'

0According to Harry, he did not initially tell Meghan of the fight but phoned his therapist.

He writes that he informed Meghan of the altercation only when she noticed 'scrapes and bruises' on his back, adding that she 'wasn't that surprised, and wasn't all that angry', but that she was 'terribly sad.'

The dramatic extract revealed just days before the book's official release is likely to see a surge in sales.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11600691/Prince-Harry-says-brother-William-physically-attacked-calling-Meghan-difficult-rude.html?ito=push-notification&ci=oSyoMbUZXl&cri=i_0Edp7sFa&si=zQcVM4D2CmeP&xi=c3c56fff-5cc1-48ae-bf7c-2ed9417ca9bb&ai=11600691


snarkyatherbest said…
Of course the wife wasnt upset about the fight - they were fighting over her 😉

Wonder if they sold the section to the guardian for cash and to get eyeballs on the book. The excerpt once again has H (as she likes to call him) not doing a darn thing to provoke the unbalanced brother. Gonna back fire. After all this crap the last few years and especially when Prince Philip is dying and Queen Elizabeth in ill health and eventually dying, we all want to hear is the BRF is takign and stand and H provided us with the best story. William actually looks strong.
So Willy decked Harry. Gee whizz I am surprised and sweet little Hawwy called his therapist. So many of us can totally understand Willy’s frustration.
Teasmade said…
THIS is the first leak from the book? Give me a break! Does anyone here have sons? Or brothers? This kerfuffle is nothing, and I'm sure it was a long time coming.

As well, it sounds highly reconstructed and artificial, even for a ghostwritten work, and I'm sure our scholar "Harold" wasn't taking notes at the time.



And I wonder who leaked that. Mmm. Could it be Hawwys nurse?
Observant One said…
@Cat Eyes - Thank you for posting the link to the DM article. After reading it, I am livid. That little shit is telling the world about deeply personal brother conversations and arguments. I hope he understands that he will have a miserable time if he comes back to the UK for the coronation. I think he might have a miserable time being in public in the US.

His story confirms that he was seeing a therapist in 2016/2017. So, why did Garry and what’s her name have to go to HR to ask for a therapist? Liars. I hope they messed up more of their lies by committing to a printed version of their saga. I am still seriously angry about this.
Humor Me said…
He called his therapist first. * noticed his injuries and was terribly sad.

I have a bridge for sale - prime real estate!!

And he could not help his suicidal wife because he did not know who to contact....
VetusSacculi said…
Comments on the book extract are pointing out that if H was straight on the phone to his therapist after this altercation, how come he was unable to get help for * when she was allegedly suicidal. Good observation.
abbyh said…
That does sound contrived.

How gloriously calm, thoughtful 5 was when his brother comes off like a lunatic - calling 5's wife unkind names and escalating.

Kind of reminds me of how it wasn't Catherine who cried story.



abbyh said…
My personal guess is that there was some sort of confrontation between the two, words were spoken, 5 stepped backward (for some reason had a balance issue - could be anything) into the dog bowl, fell and broke the bowl.

Easy to blame his brother and supply some details perhaps from something which may have really happened.

Someone said something long ago about how if you put some truth in a lie, it makes the lie more believable.

Just remember that when reading that book or any interview.
SwampWoman said…
abbyh said...
That does sound contrived.

How gloriously calm, thoughtful 5 was when his brother comes off like a lunatic - calling 5's wife unkind names and escalating.

Kind of reminds me of how it wasn't Catherine who cried story.


I have a feeling that it is one of those 'recollections may vary' situations!
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/hrrysgreysuit/status/1610818902283653121

doesn't Hairy have a square patch of darker makeup on his forehead to hide his two horns or is it just me?
Martha said…
Just disgusting! The book is a contrivance between her and the ghostwriter. She would have it no other way. From what I’ve read, he will attend the coronation, she will sit elsewhere. Given this, I don’t think she will go. Much too difficult for the poor thing, besides which… the children?
GWAH..I LOOKED at Harold’s face: I’m oticed his forehead is very bumpy…almost a square, almost the shape of a hidden mike..
CatEyes said…
Re: Harry not fighting back...we have a name for that kind of guy in TEXAS...He's a WUSS!! Real men here do that to insufferable brothers, which is what 'H' is and worse.

I cannot believe that 'H' if hit, would not punch him back. Didn't he get trained in the military? Maybe the rumor is true, * castrated him by busting his balls but good.

I hope Willy has a video of it, it would be pure gold. More people would watch and enjoy than the people who viewed the Mockumentary. Heck, the POW could call it 'The Sockumentary'!!

KCIII needs to reward William with ome special honor, maybe a solid gold star and call it the 'Order of the Fast & Fist'. POW could be 'William the Wonder Bru'tha'.
Martha said…
Read a Guardian excerpt just now on a blog. Excruciatingly boring! The alleged altercation: total boring codswalllop! Haven’t read this ghostwriter, but this has her paws all over it!
Other blogs are calling out “ necklace”, “Harold”, and the fact that she wasn’t outraged when he was “beaten”, merely sad.
Also, dog bowls in Internet images were stainless steel.
And since they film all, where are the cuts and bruises?
Girl with a Hat said…
I just learned from twitter that William calls Harry "Harold" instead of "Henry" as their private joke because William the Conqueror defeated King Harold at the Battle of Hastings.
Hawwy's owie. Oh dear. Who believes him any more?
Observant One said…
@ HumorMe and VetusSacculi I certainly hope that the slip up involving Garry’s therapist goes viral! If people are smart enough to compare the printed version of their truth to all of the lies they have told, their goose might be well and truly cooked. That will be a sweet victory for those of us who knew they lied from day 1.

@Teasmeade. I have two younger brothers and two older sisters. One brother and I used to fight out of boredom, but it didn’t take long for it to “get real.” He scraped the skin off my nose every time we fought. If it was scabbed over and healing, he’d scrape that off, too. He and I are the closest siblings today and trust each other, without reservation.

@Snarky and yorkshirepudding - what’s her name probably did leak this to the press, just to get William primed. I think it’s going to backfire on her. There are too many people putting two + two together about the big therapist lie she told Oprah. This unintended consequence might be a headline by 10AM GMT. One can only hope. I would love to see them under serious pressure for this lie, along with their ridiculous stories about Mandela. I hope his granddaughter keeps pressuring them about their insinuations that they are just like him.
snarkyatherbest said…
netflix can’t be happy because some of these juicy stories weren’t in the docudrama
oprah can’t be happy because clearly there were more stories to tell
how does anderson cooper feel? did he get to ask about these salacious stories. unless there is a bomb to drop in that interview there will be nothing left to talk about that will have people wanting to listen
same with tom bradby

scobie is trying to say it was probably some store clerk who leaked it. nice try. so how much $ did meg at Barnes and Noble get for the leak? would she have gotten more if the book was serialized or does harry not know and that $ is hidden away from him

he is getting humiliated tonight. he deserves it but this can’t be good for his mental health. or is that how the wife wants it.
Sandie said…
So much for the secrecy - plenty of leaks.

I don't believe his story about William decking him. Maybe there was a confrontation, but not as he describes.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/103qysu/no_harold_didnt_present_wills_w_two_costume/

He blames the Nazi uniform on William and Catherine. I think this is made up, not because I am biased but because this contradicts the story the person who rents out the costumes told. I think he and William went to choose the costumes together. Besides, I doubt that any of the three had a deep knowledge of Rommel - this has been inserted by TBW.
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Unfortunately. TBW believes that once people start repeating a story, it becomes the truth, even if it has been disproved.
Rebecca said…
Does anyone believe this?

Prince Harry claims William and Kate Middleton told him to wear Nazi costume

https://pagesix.com/2023/01/04/prince-harry-claims-william-and-kate-middleton-told-him-to-buy-nazi-costume/?_gl=1*143kvhb*_ga*NTE0ODg5NzAzLjE2Njg2NDE0ODc.*_ga_0DZ7LHF5PZ*MTY3Mjg5ODg2NC4xMTQuMC4xNjcyODk4ODY0LjAuMC4w
Rebecca said…
A comment from the NY Post:

Mrs. Hercule Poirot
1 hour ago

Somewhere in the mist, Fredo Corleone sits quietly sipping his drink, grateful to Harry that he is no longer the most disloyal brother in history.

“It ain’t the way I wanted things! I can handle things... I'm smart! Not like everybody says! Like, dumb! I'm smart... and I want respect!”

— Prince Harry Fredo
HappyDays said…
Harry needs to keep in mind that William won’t have to wait 70 years to become King.

Added to that, Charles knows he won’t have 70 years to leave a positive legacy that will even remotely approach that of his mother, but in the one or two decades he might have, if Harry and his wife continue their attempts to smear and essentially tear down the monarchy, Charles will hopefully see it for the threat against his ability to carry out his duties as King.

Harry has been cut some slack so far by Charles as PoW and now as King, but if these attacks that are undermining his reign and to some extent Harry’s disrespectful behavior to the Queen during the last four years of her life and even in death, may cross the line with Charles.

If Harry thinks he was bruised by William, if he keeps it up, Charles will dish out far more damaging punishment to Harry than just a few bruises. For example, if the Sussex titles were removed, perhaps there is a way that Meghan could be banned from using the title Princess Henry due to not being a British citizen.

Keep in mind that Harry’s book is Harry’s book in name only. I believe much of what is written it actually comes from Meghan. The book is just a vehicle for her to continue to use Harry as her proxy to attack William, but if what we have heard is accurate, Kate will bear the brunt of the attacks, which are likely a result of Meghan’s tremendous jealousy of Kate, who is now holds the title Diana held, who eventually will become William’s Queen Consort.

Narcissists by nature are very jealous, angry people, so it likely irks Meghan to no end to see a tall, beautiful, slender, gracious, and happy Kate with William as the public cheers, while she is stuck with the dumb brother and two kids, who as long as they are without titles, are useless to her.

The previous sentence about the kids may sound a bit cold, but narcissists are very cold people. What’s worse, narcissists are horrible mothers.

Narcs view ALL people as objects to be used, including their own children. Without titles, their two children are useless to her. At this point in time, their main use is as pawns, bargaining chips, and weapons against Charles. They can no longer be withheld from the Queen and Philip as they are both gone.

And under normal circumstances, William and Kate would probably want their three children to know their California cousins, the Wales children have other cousins in the UK, so the drama, risk and likely accusations that would be manufactured that comes with So while it is sad, it might not be worth the hassle for William and Kate to encourage any sort of relationship with the Sussex children beyond sending birthday and Christmas presents.



She likely already uses them against Harry in more subtle ways now, but will use them the most if they ever divorce.

But going back to Harry’s book, if Charles sees the attacks on Kate and William as a form of attack on the future of the monarchy, Charles might unleash his own brand of figuratively but effectively kicking Harry’s ass that would make the licking he got from William look like a tap on the head in church.
Magatha Mistie said…

Clutched pearls before swine

William the Conk’hero
with his stiff uppercut
Landed daft Harold
in the bowl of his mutt
No calls to the guards
or nine nine nine
Instead called his therapist
and * for a whine
They diagnosed
it’s all about race
As Harold blubbered
“but he broke my necklace”


HappyDays said…
Oh my!

Page Six in the New York Post is reporting that Harry is now claiming William and Kate Middleton told him to wear Nazi costume.

https://pagesix.com/2023/01/04/prince-harry-claims-william-and-kate-middleton-told-him-to-buy-nazi-costume/amp/
Seriously now said…
Righto, so now Wills and Kate apparently ‘howled with laughter’ at H’s Nazi costume and actually ‘told him to wear it’ according to Hazs’ newest tale.
Magatha Mistie said…

Cheers @GWAH
happy to be of service 😘
Hope your New Year ‘ headache’
has gone 😉
New age Harold has shot himself
in the foot, as opposed, and supposed,
to being shot in the eye!!


Sandie said…
It was previously leaked that William did go to confront his brother about his wife's behaviour, after numerous complaints from staff (note that the word 'bullying' is never used and no complaints against him are mentioned ... he is just a man defending his wife). As astute people have pointed out, their mockumentary reveals that they used stainless steel bowls for the dogs, but TBW likes to add her own details to stories - she should have pursued a career as a scriptwriter in Hollywood.

My speculation: William confronts him with accusations of bullying. Hapless loses his temper, defending his wife, and goes to punch his brother. William pushes him away. In the scuffle, hapless falls against the counter and to the floor, bruising, and perhaps scraping, his back in the process.

Cuts or scrapes? The narrative claims both. Was he not wearing a shirt? What about all the blood? It was sloppy of the ghostwriter to write such a messy story.

I can understand now why rumours from people who had supposedly seen the book are that the brothers will never reconcile. My amateur, and perhaps mistaken, psychological analysis: His wife has turned him against his brother and sister-in-law because they refused to adore her and unconsciously they make her feel inadequate. He is unconsciously angry because his brother has such a wonderful wife and he ended up with a crazy witch.

As for Charles, I can believe that he avoids confrontation. I think that was a problem in his marriage to Diana. Remember the funeral was just after the Oprah interview so William must have been furious with his brother.

Where will this all end?

The SussexSquad will have a feeding frenzy over this, but I do not think it will turn the tide on the popularity of the Prince and Princess of Wales nor stem the tide of the increasing unpopularity of the dastardly duo.
Magatha Mistie said…

When I first saw the clip
of Anderson Cooper
I thought it was Ellen DeGeneres
in glasses!

Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

Thank you for the timely Reddit article. I don't see Charles as weak but people need to be aware of the the reasons why he hasn't removed the 5s' tiles. The article explains it very clearly and shows the ramifications. We don't need Charles to have a knee jerk reaction every time the 5s say or do something.
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Thanks to the Nutties who mentioned the fisticuffs between W and H. Again, H is the poor victim. You were in the army, H, man up! My brothers get on very well but I remember once when they were teenagers and they had a row or something and got into a physical fight. It doesn't mean anything. For the record, they are not violent/wife beaters, it just happened the once.
Was there any need to recount the fight blow by blow, as it were? I think a general statement would have sufficed. Silence would have been better. If this sets the tone for the rest of the book, it is going to be a very boring read indeed.
They (William and Catherine) made me wear the Nazi Uniform is the lamest thing! Not only was Mole a full grown adult who can can think for himself, but here we are yet again it’s everyone else’s fault, zero accountability. 🙄

Who leaked a copy of the book to the Guardian?! Oh….I wonder…..🙄 Maggot’s get everywhere. 🙄

Though…respect for William….especially for landing Mole in the dog bowl! 😂😂
Maneki Neko said…
Is Harold (love the name!) just settling scores in his book?

Harry claims William and Kate TOLD him to wear Nazi uniform - and is angry they escaped blame for the 2005 scandal: Duke of Sussex claims in new book Spare the pair 'howled with laughter' when they saw him in it

So H has no will of his own? Can't make his own decisions? And nothing is ever his fault. This and the fisticuffs is not just boring, it is so pedestrian and unedifying. I thought the ghostwriter was a reputable one and yet he wrote this bilge. And of course, we have no way of knowing if any of it happened. It may be that recollections varied a lot.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11601319/Harry-claims-William-Kate-TOLD-wear-Nazi-uniform-angry-escaped-blame.html

Harry claims William grabbed him by collar and broke his necklace during row…

🙄😂😂🙄

Does Mole not realise this makes him sound and look like a real wet and lame pansy, this man who supposedly went to Afghanistan and he’s bemoaning about his necklace! 😳

I was going to say "Strange, isn't it, that a `quaint' `archaism' as pledging fealty/paying homage, left behind from the feudal system, should still be relevant?" but the Fight at the Nott-OK Corral seems to have eclipsed it.

What's the likelihood that H just overbalanced? Was he drunk?

What sort of dog bowl were they using? Bone china? Finest porcelain? Dog water bowls were traditionally very heavy stoneware - they might break if they fell onto a tiled or stone floor - but are far more likely to damage the floor. Otherwise the ones on the market nowadays are plastic or steel. There's one ceramic one shown on Google but it's for tiny dogs and is rather vulgar for royal taste.

Phoned his thewapist, did he? Did he hum a lullaby to him? What sort of man has to tell us his `necklace got broken'? Can't he see it makes him look a complete wimp? Or did his old woman tell him to say it, just to make him show himself up?

We're vewwy sowwy Hawwy, but we've heard so many porkies from you and 'Er Indoors that we don't believe you. If at last you really are telling the truth (as opposed to `your truth') then it's your own fault we don't believe you believe you now.
Maneki Neko said…
Not wishing to tread on CatEyes' toes but here is the Guardian article. It's only a bit more complete than the DM one.

Part 1

In his highly anticipated autobiography, Spare, Prince Harry recounts what he says was a physical attack by his brother, William, now Prince of Wales, as their relationship fell apart over the younger prince’s marriage to the actor Meghan Markle.

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Describing a confrontation at his London home in 2019, Harry says William called Meghan “difficult”, “rude” and “abrasive”, which Harry calls a “parrot[ing of] the press narrative” about his American wife.

The confrontation escalated, Harry writes, until William “grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and … knocked me to the floor”.

The extraordinary scene, which Harry says resulted in visible injury to his back, is one of many in Spare, which will be published worldwide next week and is likely to spark a serious furore for the British royal family.

Amid stringent pre-launch security around the book, the Guardian obtained a copy.

The book’s title comes from an old saying in royal and aristocratic circles: that a first son is an heir to titles, power and fortune, and a second is therefore a spare, should anything happen to the first-born.

Spare is a remarkable volume, in which the altercation between the two princes forms a startling passage.

Harry writes that William wanted to talk about “the whole rolling catastrophe” of their relationship and struggles with the press. But when William arrived at Nottingham Cottage – where Harry was then living, in the grounds of Kensington Palace and known as “Nott Cott” – he was, Harry says, already “piping hot”.

After William complained about Meghan, Harry writes, Harry told him he was repeating the press narrative and that he expected better. But William, Harry says, was not being rational, leading to the two men shouting over each other.

Harry then accused his brother of acting like an heir, unable to understand why his younger brother was not content to be a spare.

Insults were exchanged, before William claimed he was trying to help.

Harry said: “Are you serious? Help me? Sorry – is that what you call this? Helping me?”

That comment, Harry says, angered his brother, who swore while stepping towards him. Now scared, Harry writes, he went to the kitchen, his furious brother following.

Harry writes that he gave his brother a glass of water and said: “Willy, I can’t speak to you when you’re like this.”

He writes: “He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.”

Harry writes that William urged him to hit back, citing fights they had as children. Harry says he refused to do so. William left, Harry says, then returned “looking regretful, and apologised”.

When William left again, his brother writes, he “turned and called back: ‘You don’t need to tell Meg about this.’

“‘You mean that you attacked me?’

“‘I didn’t attack you, Harold.’”

Harry says he didn’t immediately tell his wife – but did call his therapist.

When Meghan later noticed “scrapes and bruises” on his back, and he therefore told her of the attack, Harry says she “wasn’t that surprised, and wasn’t all that angry.

“She was terribly sad.”
Magatha Mistie said…

Mein Scam

He asked for help
as he wasn’t too sure
Should he go as a pilot
or a mien of mein fuhrer
He took from their howling
that they would agree
To his making an entrance
as a freaking nazi…


Maneki Neko said…
Part 2 Harry’s resentment of being the “spare” is the unifying theme of his book, through chapters on his childhood, his schooling, his career as a royal and in the British army, his relationship with his parents and brother and his life with Meghan through courtship, wedding and marriage to their own experience of parenthood.

Early on, Harry recounts the story of how his father, now King Charles, supposedly said to his wife, Princess Diana, on the day of Harry’s birth: “Wonderful! Now you’ve given me an heir and a spare – my work is done.”

Whether describing his memories and love for Diana, who was killed in a car crash in Paris in August 1997, or his similar love for his grandmother, Queen Elizabeth II, who died last year, Harry is unsparing in his recounting of intensely private scenes and conversations.

Harry met Meghan in 2016. They married at Windsor Castle in 2018. As Duke and Duchess of Sussex, they began life as working royals but quickly drifted apart from the family and eventually embarked on a largely separate existence, moving to Canada and then California.

Their acrimonious split from the royal family has been the subject of endless press coverage, some of it steered themselves, including via a famous interview with Oprah Winfrey in 2021 that caused huge controversy on both sides of the Atlantic and around the world.

Subjects from that interview and a recently released Netflix documentary, including a miscarriage suffered by Meghan and her thoughts of suicide, and suggestions of racism within royal circles, are covered extensively in Harry’s book.

The book has been trailed and two interviews with Harry are due to be broadcast in the UK and US this weekend, with ITV News at Ten and CBS 60 Minutes. Both interviews are eagerly awaited, trailers and teasers reported on as news as speculation about what Harry has chosen to say in his book continues.

In a clip from the ITV interview, Harry said: “I would like to get my father back, I would like to have my brother back.”

Given the details recounted in his book, that might not seem immediately likely. Indeed one of Harry’s most pertinent revelations of private conversations between the senior royals comes from the very front of his book.

Harry recounts an anguished meeting with Charles and William after the Windsor Castle funeral of Prince Phillip, the queen’s husband, in April 2021.

Charles, he says, stood between his warring sons, “looking up at our flushed faces”.

“Please, boys,” Harry quotes his father as saying. “Don’t make my final years a misery.”

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I find the 'recollection' of the fight comical. The flowery language reminds me of *'s 'miscarriage'.
A reposted comment on the Guardian Twitter a/c:


Colin Brazier
@ColinBrazierTV
·
6m
The Guardian often advocates the abolition of our monarchy. That it should should ‘obtain’ Harry’s memoirs is significant. The bitter implication is that the Sussexes don’t just want to reform an institution beloved by millions, they want its destruction.


And according to Nicholas Witchell, the leak came via the Guardian's New York correspondent - significant or what?

@theguardian
Magatha Mistie said…

Why would you consider
wearing a pilot uniform
to a ‘Colonial & Native’
themed party?

Teasmade said…
@Martha" GOOD CATCH about the stainless steel dog bowl! That detail was definitely over the top on the face of it. I hope someone else catches it and runs with it.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11601623/Inside-Nott-Cott-Harry-claims-piping-hot-William-knocked-dog-bowl.html

The shade from DM as they show a photograph of the kitchen and the stainless steel dog bowl!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11601851/Prince-Harry-refuses-say-fathers-coronation-new-ITV-trailer.html

It seems they expect his family to go to California, knock on their door, and then listen while they unleash a version of their mockumentary ... And then do public abject apologies. I do hope his family simply ignore this nonsense, but they must be deeply hurt and very worried about him.

She does not want reconciliation, because she wants him in California with her and completely under her control, so she has to keep the feud she started going - just my opinion. As for her own family, they don't count.

Magatha Mistie said…

Harold is finally the
laughing stock of the world!

Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602085/Prince-Harry-walks-dog-California-rain-claims-attacked-William-Meghan.html

Copyright for the photos in the article is attributed to NRP/MEGA. I cannot find a photo agency that matches that. Have they started their own photo agency to monetize all photos of themselves?

MEGA is a free app that you can download to manipulate your photos and videos.

Does anyone know of this photo agency?
NeutralObserver said…
Hey Nutties, Happy New Year, & hope your holidays were lovely!

@Teasmade, yes, anyone with sons or brothers knows that brothers will scrap with one another now & then, while being willing to go to the mattresses for them ultimately. Frankly, I think this sounds like a porkie that the wife whispered into the gullible ear of their ghostwriter & her hapless tool of a husband. If true, what a wimp Mole is. I think many who read this anecdote will say, 'About time!'

I can never understand why the Montecito pair don't understand that the prince whose status is comparable to theirs is Andrew, not William. What is it that they can't comprehend? As Prince of Wales, Charles got all the goodies, not Andrew. Now the current Prince of Wales has done the same. It's called primogeniture. That's how the hereditary aristocracy hangs on to what wealth remains to them. If they want to map out what their future might look like, they should look at Andrew & Fergie.What a sullen piece of work Mole is.
Sandie said…
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-william-ordered-plane-leave-28878770

This account is what I worked out what happened (from Bower's uodated book): Hapless was supposed to be on the plane taking family to Balmoral. There was a delay because TBW was insisting on a accompanying handbag, but he had been told categorically that she was not wanted. William ordered the plane to take off and leave hapless behind. He had to find a private plane, hence he left after she had died. It is possible that his father informed him that she had died before he even took off.

Why did TBW then stay behind? Too scared to face the family, especially with the Queen dead and no longer in charge? Why did he still go? The optics?

I will be interested to see what word salad him and TBW serve up to explain what happened that day.
snarkyatherbest said…
sandie you are probably right. cutting out the middleman on photos,pr …..must be winning again in Montecito

we have said it before that we only can guess what the family was seeing behind closed doors and now we have a glimpse and it’s from harry’s side and it doesn’t look good. for harry. the family probably have a three volume book of things about him and his wife is in vol 2 and 3. how exhausting can these two be.

Girl with a Hat said…
the book mistakenly went on sale in Spain today and the Sun is running stories with details all day today.

thesun.co.uk
Girl with a Hat said…
Prince Harry shockingly accuses Camilla of leaking stories and claims she launched campaign to marry Charles & get crown

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20948546/prince-harry-accuses-camilla-leaking-stories/
Observant One said…
@WBBM. Your two recent posts are sobering. The Reddit opinion piece (@ 2:17 AM) was very informative and worth reading twice. It IS a thoughtful piece, indeed. The tweet you posted about the leak to The Guardian (@ 10:52 AM) is quite sobering. What’s her name is trying to bring down the Monarchy, by “spoon feeding” this recent leak to an anti-Monarchy rag. Everyone should pause to think about this.

This sordid debacle is becoming more sobering and dangerous with each day. If there are more outright lies printed in the book, both fan bases could become very angry. These two have NO IDEA that they are playing with fire and there are many unstable people out there. I’m a 68 year old grandmother and I am mad as hell. But, maybe she wants to rile everyone up, so she has ‘proof of the danger they’re in.’ She is a sick, controlling little bitch. Anyone associated with them is looking worse by the minute.

I do pray for the safety of everyone (mostly) involved in this public takedown. I pray that the truth will continue to shine through the barrage of lies. This is a very sad chapter in the Monarchy. I hope a new chapter is coming soon, one filled with true goodness and light.
xxxxx said…
There is a MEGA photo agency --- https://themegaagency.com/ --- My guess is NRP (his initials) is a photographer that H/M summoned to take the Hapless +dog photos on a windy miserable day. That Mr. NRP works with MEGA
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602431/Meghan-offended-reprimanded-insulting-Kate.html

Yet another version of who cried at the fitting for flower girl dresses ... gosh Harold you are not making your wife look good with this version of the story. She comes across as abrasive and rude and having no class or manners at all. Unfortunately, we do not have the whole story. Was there not something about flower girls wearing socks or tights that led to the disagreement?
xxxxx said…
Sandie said:
It seems they expect his family to go to California, knock on their door, and then listen while they unleash a version of their mockumentary ... And then do public abject apologies. I do hope his family simply ignore this nonsense, but they must be deeply hurt and very worried about him.

Everyone in the Royal Family is done with these two clowns, they hope they stay to Montecito for the coronation. Charles is the only exception, and maybe William somewhat. Charles is a certified fool for Harry's guilt-tripping act.
snarkyatherbest said…
Sandie. the wife only wanted to be on the plane to be near william? no matter she didn’t need to be on the second plane she made her point she ruined her husband’s ability to go to his grandmother. she created the chaos she needed. probably went back to frog house and did her nails after that.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://sputniknews.com/20230105/unfair-king-of-sweden-claims-his-son-should-be-heir-1106050510.html

The link is from sputnik news and some countries may block it because it has links to Russia.

So, here is the gist of the story:

Carl Philip of Sweden became the Crown Prince upon his birth because he was the first born son, but had an older sister. Then, the Swedish Parliament passed a law that said that the children of the monarch become heirs in the order they were born, no matter their sex and that this was retroactive. Carl Philip then lost his title as Crown Prince to his sister Victoria.

Their father, the King is now saying that this wasn't fair.

Carl Philip is taking it in his stride, and hasn't complained. He is the attractive prince married to a woman who was a model.
Portcitylass said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602193/Now-Nelson-Mandelas-granddaughter-says-doesnt-wrong-Harry-Meghan.html

This is very telling. Why did she change her opinion so abruptly?

Friends and I are taking bets on whose political seat she will take.

If the media in the US are for them that is all that matters.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Clutched pearls before swine and Mein Scam - well done! 👏 👏
How did the book get released early in Spain?

“He tipped us off and we jetted out to snap up one of the hardbacks - which is 557 pages long.

The memoir is entitled En La Sombra, which translates to "In the Shadow", with "Príncipe Harry" written at the top of the cover.

Inside, it says "Para Meg, Archie y Lili... y, for supuesto, mi madre" - which means "for Meg, Archie and Lili... and, of course, my mother".

The customer, who wants to remain anonymous, said: "I was shocked when I saw them selling it. It must have been some kind of mistake.”
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/103zie4/harrys_plea_i_feared_camilla_would_be_my_wicked/

If you read through the comments there are more leaks.

Gosh he is vain about baldness and very petty and childish about William's baldness. The comment about Willuam looking less like his mother sunce going bald is steeped in childish petty jealousy.

The royal burial ground, where the Duke and Duchess of Windsor are buried, is near Frogmore Cottage and Frogmore House, not Windsor Castle, where Phillip's funeral took place. Is this poetic embellishment? It was the time of severe restrictions because of Covid but he says he met with his father and brother near the graves of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. Does be simply mean Windsor Castle, but it does sound as if he was outdoors.

See we question every line because we know that they lie and twist and embellish ...
Sandie said…
Refused to give the media rights to publish excerpts/chapters, which wouid have earned Hapless and the publisher a huge hunk of money ... still a few days to go to publication and leaks are spreading all over the place! I can't keep up at the rate they are being published!
abbyh said…

How did the book get out now?

Well they made certain to tell the world how tightly they were keeping a lid on it to insure that it was more valuable than a scheduled excerpt. They even went so far as to claim that it was up there with one of the Harry Potters.

This like Lost. Left hand, right hand moving in different directions.

What better way to build the excitement than to have an "accidental" early sale?

Notice a couple of things:

Anonymous buyer.

Anonymous location.

And, it is a good 5 days before the official start of sales. I don't know the ins and outs of when a book store is putting out books on a shelf for sale but this sounds way to early for the books to be delivered to me. They had all this crazy want to edit stuff which would have crunch delayed the translations before we get to the actual printing and then to the boxing and mailing.

Accidental early sales can and do happen.
https://www.today.com/popculture/n-y-store-accidentally-sells-new-potter-book-wbna8560858

But what you notice is how it is handled. Names. Kind of location and a judge got involved.

Cui bono.
Teasmade said…
https://twitter.com/plonkkaa/status/1611001083148615683

Surely this will not be bested today.
Fifi LaRue said…
A tip-off that Harold's story is fake: * only felt sad. Narcissists don't feel sadness. They feel envy, jealousy, anger, revenge, but never sadness nor love nor regret.

It would seem that Harold fell down during the spat because he was stinkin' drunk.

Mole's book is gonna be a laugh!
snarkyatherbest said…
i’m still of the belief the mrs leaked to guardian for a price and squirreled away the money where harry doesn’t see it.

or maybe danayi snuck it out in her boots (ala fawn hall and the whole irancontra thin in the 80s) and sold it as revenge on the couple.

i’ve gots lots of thoughts 😉
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/M_Rotchburns/status/1610978825067954176

this is hilarious - Hairy as Harry Potter.
Sandie said…
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/05/prince-harry-diana-new-book-autobiography-spare

I read tarot cards and follow tarot readers and so on, but I am not a complete fool and retain a high degree of scepticism. Also, as a tarot reader and some experience in 'visions' - he was fooled. He made an appointment; the 'psyhic' got intel from a worker at their home (because a housemaid cleaned up the mess). The reading in itself is vague, but positive, telling him what he wants to hear (my mummy is with me now), and that bit of detail that 'she cannot possibly have known' fools most people, but definitely him.

A 'real' psychic reading is not all positive and a 'real' psychic would pick up on his toxic energy and warn him about it.
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@Sandie re Rommel:

This may well be controversial;

My no 1 husband was at Sandhurst 1957-9 and told me that Rommel did feature in Military History then - and may still do so. At that time, he was respected in the British army for his military ability and, to paraphrase Wikipedia, the N.Africa campaign being probably the `cleanest' fight of the war.

Of course, this view has been challenged since but Rommel was implicated in a plot against Hitler and was given the choice of committing suicide or having his family persecuted. He chose the poison.

I had read before that H said it was Wm who egged him on with the armband but perhaps W never imagined he would be such a bloody fool as to sport a swastika. Of course, it isn't taboo for actors to wear German uniform, whether for wartime action films (`The Eagle has Landed') or adventure films ( Indiana Jones) or even TV comedy (`'Allo! Allo!'). And wasn't the theme of the party something like `Natives and Colonials'?

For a member of the RF to risk it, however, was very foolish as there are those who are always ready to accuse them of being sympathisers, just as the Duke of Windsor was. For example, they extracted a still from a home movie of the child Princess Elizabeth waving goodbye to `prove' that she had performed a N*zi salute, to say nothing of harping on about the German relatives.

Harry should have hired a pith helmet, turned his shirt around under a dark suit and gone as a missionary.
SwampWoman said…
Teasmade, bwahahaha! Great motto for the spare and his snare!

A source said: 'Harry doesn't hold back on William, He writes that Harry told him: "Meg is difficult, she's rude, she's abrasive. She's been rude to the staff."

ROFL. WHAT? No references to a gold-digging whore and an imbecile? (You didn't need to edit that, Harold, everybody knows what she is.)
On Radio 2 today Royal Commontator and PR Consultant Richard Fitzwilliams said the Sussex Survivors could be released from their NDA’s, and then they can talk about the bullying they endured at the hands of Maggot and Mole. 😁

I say let it happen! 🥳😁
Humor Me said…
Is anyone else wondering how many necklaces Harry will receive (or be tossed his way) from now on?
CatEyes said…
@Maneki Neko

I am gad you posted the Guardian article, certainly more detailed. I guess I'm as dumb as Harry to not go to the source.

About the fall Harry took...I find it improbable he landed primarily on his with such force to receive bruises and especially cuts. Anatomically, most people falling backwards would normally land on their butt, thereby taking the brunt of the fall and the resultant pressure on the back greatly reduced if any (for a fit person).

(IMO) To take a fall landing first on your back (instead of butt, shoulder or head) would have to mean Harry was in a gymnastic position doing a perfect somersault.

And as several Nutties said, most dog dishes are heavy stoneware and are hard to break (I know from years of owning them). Besides what size would the bowl have to be to cause such injuries; I hadn't known he had a pet Mastiff that would necessitate a very large bowl. Obviously photos show they had a stainless steel bowl, not one of those large tower-like stoneware crocks.

At age 68 I took a horrendous fall completely backwards all the way down a stairs *which warranted a 'score of 10' if I was a young gymnast. I only suffered a bruised sprained ankle and nothing else execpt disbelief, lol..
snarkyatherbest said…
so i don’t have the energy but are the squad in overtime or mostly silent/muted. the latter would be telling. they answer to their mrs not the mr. she may be reveling in all this drama and what is being said about him. she played him well didn’t she. and now i believe she will not show up for a single interview. she will let this be his own shit show.
ieschew said…
It seems that at his height, had Harold fallen on a dog bowl anywhere in that kitchen, head injury and/or head through pantry door would have been more a concern than abrasions to his lilly-white backside.

Currently sketching Harold as a cat. Because he is such a you-know-what.

I see that right on the heels of that sob story is his testimony that he picked off 25 Taliban. As if to protest that really, he is not such as you-know-what as the sob story makes him sound.

Does anyone doubt they are feeding The Guardian to drive up book sales (and worse, as WBBM already said)?

I am a broken record in my own head, but I feel so terribly for the RF, particularly the Waleses.
SwampWoman said…
Oh, snap, now the Daily Mail is claiming that the necklace that swims in dog bowl was so upset about was gifted him by Chelsea?

My, my, my. Bless his heart.

Sandie said…
The Behaviour Panel have been busy! Hopefully they will release the full video soon.

https://youtu.be/Wm9Fut3I31g
SwampWoman said…
OMG, I can hardly wait until the general public starts writing their own version from the point of view of the dog, the necklace, the doorframe, the cup of water, etc.
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Sandie said…
@WBBM
Thanks for that info about Rommel. So, both brothers are likely to have known about Rommel and his African battles.

I can see that both brothers as youngsters couod have been tone deaf about the implications of wearing a Nazi uniform, and perhaps even thought it funny. (William has said that he has a 'different' sense of humour and Catherine gets it.) I can even understand resentment that, when the incident became public, only hapless was singled out for reprimand and 'correction' and the heir was protected. It is way past time for him to grow up and take responsibility for his choices and mistakes. His brother has grown up - he has not. If Catherine did indeed find the Nazi costume funny, she has also grown up - and chose to photograph Holocaust victims with their families for the Royal Collection and visit Holocaust victims in the UK.

Is there any hope left for Spare, or is he going to spiral down into total self-destruction?
JM said…
My two cents on wedding chaos.

* didn't want George and Charlotte in the wedding. The RF said if you want a $32M royal wedding they WILL be in they wedding. So * decided she would show them and was a big old B to Catherine. She just can't hide the hate and jealousy.
HappyDays said…
From the info coming out before next Tuesday, it seems like Harry, serving as Meghan’s obedient proxy, is going thermonuclear on his family. Never mind if the accusations are truthful. He just seems to want to be as destructive as possible.

He is too thick to understand that if he and Meghan eventually split, he will be on the receiving end of this same type of treatment from Meghan and her attorneys. And their kids will play a useful role in her nuclear divorce pity play.
HappyDays said…
From the info coming out before next Tuesday’s release, it seems like Harry, serving as Meghan’s obedient proxy, is going thermonuclear on his family. Never mind if the accusations are truthful. He just seems to want to be as destructive as possible.

He is too thick to understand that if he and Meghan eventually split, he will be on the receiving end of this same type of treatment from Meghan and her attorneys. And their kids will play a useful role in her nuclear divorce pity play.
Maneki Neko said…
Not sure about Harold's privacy...

The father-of-two wrote: 'I suspected he was referring to my recent loss of virginity, a humiliating episode with an older woman who liked macho horses and who treated me like a young stallion.

'I mounted her quickly, after which she spanked my ass and sent me away. One of my many mistakes was letting it happen in a field, just behind a very busy pub. No doubt someone had seen us.'


But I seem to recount he lost his virginity to *, didn't he?? Isn't that what she intimated??
HappyDays said…
Harry is so dim-witted that he is failing to understand he is doing great harm to his reputation and brand, which will have a deeply negative impact on his marketability. His behavior, likely at Meghan’s urging, is beyond toxic.

He might be getting some immediate satisfaction during the rollout for this book, but it will be short-lived and quickly turn sour.

People around the world will overwhelmingly align with the Royal Family and reject the Sussexes at every turn. And the Sussexes will have nobody to blame but themselves.

Opus said…
I believe it. Baldy bullying the necklace wearing wuss.

Never, ever, attend a fancy dress party for no matter what you wear you will offend someone not to mention fancy dress is 'so ghey'.

What though do you do if you are the Palace? Ignore the increasingly hysterical outpourings from the spare; deny said allegations (recollections may vary); admit that every word is true and add that the toxic male violence was entirely justified.

Kate Middleton needs to obtain a restraining order - just in case. Is Markle allowing her husband to be thrown under the bus by allowing/encouraging the publication for worldwide consumption of these unseemly rants.

On a personal note, I had a little brother and it was he who when he lost it came close to committing murder. Jealousy seems to be a problem for younger brothers; older brothers have nothing to be jealous of and thus remain calm and unconcerned.
On a brighter note, this has generated so much brilliant comedy and I do hope that the Royal Family is able to laugh along with us peasants!

Maneki Neko said…
@CatEyes

I would never think you're "as dumb as Harry"! Do not put yourself down.
........
“He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.”

As bad and as cringe as *'s story about her miscarriage:

“I knew, as I clutched my firstborn child that I was losing my second,” she wrote. “Hours later, I lay in a hospital bed, holding my husband’s hand. I felt the clamminess of his palm and kissed his knuckles, wet from both our tears. Staring at the cold white walls, my eyes glazed over. I tried to imagine how we’d heal.”
I bet she wrote H's story.
Rebecca said…
I’m trying to find humor in the car crash that is Fredo’s book. Here is a short bit by Cockburn in The Spectator:

Harry and William’s royal rumble
Prince William apparently called Meghan Markle ‘difficult,’ ‘rude’ and ‘abrasive

Britain has spoken. After extracts from Prince Harry’s memoir, Spare, were leaked to the Guardian, the overwhelming reaction to the book’s explosive claims is “what kind of man wears a necklace?”

Describing a confrontation at his London home in 2019, Harry says that his brother William called Meghan Markle “difficult,” “rude” and “abrasive,” which Harry calls a “parroting of the press narrative” about his American wife. Or maybe those were just the first three adjectives that sprung to mind about moaning Meg.

Harry goes on to describe how William “grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and… knocked me to the floor.”

Heroic Haz then writes that he gave his brother a glass of water and said: “Willy, I can’t speak to you when you’re like this.”

The prince, clearly petrified, reveals how the disagreement descended into blows: “He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace and he knocked me to the floor

When heavyweight William left, Harry says he got straight on the phone to his therapist. Cockburn feels it necessary to remind readers that these events unfolded at the same time that Meghan claimed that she had absolutely no help from the royal family concerning her mental health, and was left to struggle alone


In one of Harry’s latest interviews to promote the book, old pal Tom Bradby from ITV asked the prince if there’s a possibility he may rejoin the monarchy in the future. Er, Cockburn thinks not.
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abbyh said…

Necklace on a leather cord - not some thin silver chain.

Anyone ever do any leather work? You use sharp knives. But in the story it is ripped?

I have sewn with chamois cloth substituted for leather (so thin but I still needed special leather needles).

I have some doubts about that.
Sandie said…
https://twitter.com/byEmilyAndrews?t=H2eOhoVuiUA1T27zw48-Aw&s=09

Some very interesting Tweets from Emily Andrews ... she claims Jason Knauf loathed reporters and defended William and TBW from negative stories to the point of absurdity. Her Tweets reveal just how absurd the claim is that 'the Palace' was briefing against him and his wife, and shares how reporters try to get stories. She also reckons that the bullying story came out because one of the staff knew and was friendly with Low, the journalist who wrote the story.
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My opinion: the duo do not care about truth or privacy, but only care about control and getting paid millions. When it was revealed during her court case against The Mail that JK was giving evidence, what upset her was that William was 'disloyal'. There was no concern that she was at risk of being exposed as a liar, and certainly no shame or regret from either of them. There is also no shame about what she fed Scobie about her sister.
Rebecca said…
@Magatha

You are on fire today. May the Fredo Force be with you!
Rebecca said…
A lot of this was redundant so I edited it (From Cockburn in The Spectator):

And a second one by Cockburn in the Spectator:

Did Prince Harry’s nasty older brother force him to wear a Nazi uniform?
The prince repeats the revelation that his Nazi costume was William’s idea

Ahhh, Harry’s truth. This time, instead of optionally wearing a marginally funny Nazi outfit to a costume party in the 2000s, back when nobody really cared about poor taste, Prince Harry was dragged kicking and screaming by Wehrmacht William and Kristallnacht Kate to the naughty shop against his will.
Rebecca said…
@WBBM
On a brighter note, this has generated so much brilliant comedy and I do hope that the Royal Family is able to laugh along with us peasants!

Agreed! I hope Hilary Rose will add her two cents in The Times soon.
Sandie said…
@abbyh
Well spotted. I have a couple of leather cord necklaces. No, the leather does not tear or break, unless it is old and brittle. (People, including myself, forget that leather needs to be treated at least once a year or it will eventually become brittle.) Maybe the leather was ripped from the clasp? Even then, the glue used is usually super strong. In my experience, you are more likely to injure yourself than break the necklace if someone grabs it and pulls.
Rebecca said…
Oh boy:

King Charles made ‘sadistic’ jokes about Prince Harry’s ‘real’ dad: memoir

https://pagesix.com/2023/01/05/king-charles-made-jokes-about-prince-harrys-real-dad/?_gl=1*1nd9iin*_ga*NTE0ODg5NzAzLjE2Njg2NDE0ODc.*_ga_0DZ7LHF5PZ*MTY3Mjk0NDk0My4xMTcuMS4xNjcyOTQ1MDYwLjAuMC4w&_ga=2.260262989.154109706.1672202513-514889703.1668641487
I see `Royal expert/Royal historian' Kate Williams has waded into the discussion.

I've never been very impressed by her academic credentials - her professorial chair is one of those `Public Engagement with (name your subject)' ones, hardly on a par with, say, Mary Beard's former position at Cambridge. It follows on being a successful TV presenter, rather than someone who has published many peer-reviewed papers.

That said, I'd support her contention that the Netflix stuff is a `primary historical source' for all that Harry Markle disagrees. It is a primary source but not for the reason Williams thinks it is, nor for the reason that HarryMarkle thinks it isn't.

It is a primary source for the pro-Markle propaganda in circulation at the moment, a view of what money can buy in the way of support. (Btw, `Propaganda' comes from a Latin gerund meaning `that which is to be propagated' (ie something repeated and spread around in the hope that it will be accepted.) It's like `agenda' - something which has to be acted upon.)

Film can be can be used as a primary source for the attitudes of a certain period - think of those classic British films of the 1950s & 60s - `A Taste of Honey', `Up the Junction' and `Victim', for instance. In its way, it's the modern equivalent of all the anti-monarchist polemic leaflets of the early 17th century which preceded the Civil War. These resulted in their authors being committed to the public pillory, often with mutilated ears or noses.

Nowadays, those doing the propagating receive cash rewards, either as paid agents of the party being promoted (Sussex Squad- I'm looking at you) or by selling films and books (you all know who mean).
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Rebecca said…
Hilary Rose has opined in The Times:

William told Harry that Meghan was difficult. Is that all he’s got?
Hilary Rose pulls apart the leaks from the Duke of Sussex’s new book Spare


Happily I was sitting down when I read the news that Prince Harry is miffed. The first snippets of his upcoming book, Spare, have inevitably leaked. I was ready to sum them up as “good grief, Harry, yada yada whatevs”, and that is exactly how abridged versions of the book could read when it is finally published next week. In the meantime, though, I give you a genuinely surprising nugget.

First let’s deal with the unsurprising things. It is not surprising that Harry reacted with maturity and grace under fire when William threw a punch at him. Physical violence is obviously always abhorrent, but Harry is all grown up now remember, 37 years old with two children, 16 bathrooms and only occasionally still moaning on global TV that Daddy doesn’t pay the bills. Who knows, maybe 2023 will be the year he doesn’t mention that at all. Or that he can’t get 24/7 Met police protection as a private citizen in California. Or not.

Nor is it surprising that Meghan greeted news of the fraternal row with sad, statesmanlike calm, as Harry claims. As keen students of Meghan’s life and times know, when they go low, she goes high. And after two years of post-Megxit bitterness, umpteen bitter interviews, several bitter books, two rescue dogs and a chicken coop, we can unite in agreeing that their behaviour has at all times embodied statesmanlike maturity and grace under fire.

No, the surprising thing is that William told Harry that Meghan was difficult. Difficult? Is that all he’s got? I’ve listened to all of Meghan’s podcasts. I’ve watched six hours of the H&M Netflix whingeathon. I’ve read all the reports about the Sussex Survivors Club and the allegations of bullying, which she denies, and yet strangely she has never demanded, at the point of a writ, that Buckingham Palace publish the report into the allegations which presumably exonerates her in full. Perhaps she’s just working through the rest of her legal To Do list. Anyway, I have tallied up all the staff who left their employment in England, under the sunniest of circumstances, to pursue exciting opportunities elsewhere and who now call themselves the Sussex Superfan Club. And I thought to myself yes, difficult is definitely the strongest word William could have used, that’s exactly what everyone else was thinking.
Rebecca said…
Having said all of which, I do feel, for the first time, the merest twinge of sympathy for the couple. No wait, hear me out. If you take all the noise away, and all the Cain and Abel sibling rivalry stuff that their mother would have sorted out in five minutes by knocking their heads together, the bottom line is that Harry married someone his family and friends just didn’t like very much. Everyone tried, but to no avail. Maybe if Kate had been more of a hugger it might have been different. We’ve all been there. We all have friends who married people we’d rather they hadn’t, but there we are. The difference with Harry is that it gets written about, and instead of ignoring it, he picks at it like a sore. In the book, he apparently accuses William of not liking Meghan because he was swayed by horrid stories about her, missing the obvious point: why would William need to read them? He’d met her.

Supposedly we can look forward to Harry talking about the difficulties of being the spare, but he’s said himself he’d never want to be the heir, so which is it to be, Harry? The answer is spread over 416 pages, and yay for that. He offers his customary insightful analysis into key moments of his life, and grudges he would like to settle, this time about the Nazi fancy dress costume he wore in 2005. He blames William and Kate — hold the front page — and effectively says ‘They made me do it’. He was 20 at the time. In a trailer for the Tom Bradby ITV interview, Harry says there’s a lot to discuss with his family and he “really hopes they’re willing to sit down and talk”. I understand that the entire family is indeed clamouring to create more content for Netflix, with Princess Anne in particular keen to take part, wearing as many tiaras as she can fit on her head, just as soon as she’s mucked out the horses.
@abbyh

I would think the leather thong/bootlace would have stretched before it snapped though it might depend on how old it is and if it has been allowed to dry out. Puts him at risk of garrotting though.

It is noticeable that he doesn't actually say that William thumped him - we are left to infer that for ourselves, probably because that's we'd like to do to him (I know I would). It's a sneaky form of words. We don't know if H had taken strong drink or not but he's just as likely to have overbalanced or fallen over his own feet.

Something like that once happened to my father - a navvy emerged unsteadily from a pub and fell over at Dad's feet. Dad picked up the round cheese the bloke had dropped and tried to hand it back once he was on his feet again. The navvy, however, swung a punch at Dad, thinking it was he who had knocked him down - and fell over again. Dad dodged the blow and left him to it. The cheese continued to roll merrily down the hill...

Had W really hit him, H would be harping on about his sore jaw, loss of teeth and concussion.
Sandie said…
“On our return from the trip I rang Willy, sounded him out, asked his thoughts about where we might get married,” he continued. “I told him we were thinking of Westminster Abbey. ‘No good. We did it there.’ ‘Right, right. St. Paul’s?’ ‘Too grand. Plus Pa and Mummy did it there.’ ‘Hm. Yes Good point.'”

Supposedly another extract ... so, they assumed they would have a grand London wedding. Is there any rule that says they could not get married in the same place as his parents or his brother? I bet she is resentful and carries a grudge that she was denied waving to the crowds from BP balcony.
snarkyatherbest said…
so a lot of buzz on twitter. the one i found interesting from the book is that he killed 25 taliban. not 24 not 26. just seems odd to have 25 it’s like a round number. and a lot has been made that he put it in there to bolster claims for security. but the army and security forces would know this is true or not and i am sure if it’s not then that will be shared with the powers that will be determining this.

also the interviews coming up. did all three interviewees get access to the whole book? if. it they are gonna be pissed they can’t ask for more about some of theses more salacious claims. i think he has scuttled these interviews. hope book sales crash. as victoria arbiter comment it’s the weirdest pr related to a book release she has ever scene
Fifi LaRue said…
Reading the story about Mole's necklace made my mind go immediately to "but what about his earrings?"
SwampWoman said…
Fifi LaRue said...
Reading the story about Mole's necklace made my mind go immediately to "but what about his earrings?"


He probably already removed them. I'm sure Meghan schooled him that before he engages in fisticuffs, he needs to remove the earrings.
Girl with a Hat said…
another funny tweet in the same style as the one with the Latin "Harold fell into the dog bowl"

https://twitter.com/plonkkaa/status/1611073060907667456
Fifi LaRue said, Reading the story about Mole's necklace made my mind go immediately to "but what about his earrings?".

😂😂My immediate thoughts were…as Mole landed in the dog bowl clutching his necklace screaming ‘Oh my pearls!’, and thus scattering the pearls everywhere…

Alas, I got carried away…😳
Rebecca said…
@Sandie
... so, they assumed they would have a grand London wedding.

Yet they complained in their Netflix series that they were made to have a grand wedding.
snarkyatherbest said…
so i am still curious. was this all the pr strategy to gin up book sales. or is this the mrs pocketing “excerpts” sold to people and guardian and page six. if it scuttles books sales is she secretly gleeful that he is a laughing. stock and this is failing all while pocketing money. i think he is stupid enough to believe it’s all being leaked by the palace. i just feel her hands are all over this and now he has to keep adding on exclusive interviews to explain himself. she would find a way to sabotage his big moment of truth and he’s stupid enough to be part to parts of it. i still think a hidden bank account overseas is teeming over with cash he has never seen.
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curious.

favorite christopher bouzy is silent on all of this on twitter
where his jack royston? they gave exclusives to everyone but him. guess he’s not that special.
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Sandie said…
I apologize for not giving references ... snippets I have come across:

His description of his father telling him that his mother had been in a bad accident is heartrending. What he remembers is that his father had never called him 'dear boy' so many times in one conversation, and his father was obviously in deep shock.

Shortly after they started dating, he Googled and found and watched the racy scenes from Suits and was very upset (I can't remember his exact words - has anybody found that snippet?). Were those scenes online while they were still dating in secret? Anyway, it must have been a shock to see her acting out what he thought was 'something special between them'.

He claims that William and Catherine were huge fans of Suits. I wonder if this is true. And I doubt that they would be so impressed that he was dating an actress - these are people who hang out with the likes of Tom Cruise.
Rebecca said…
I apologize for all the copy-and-pastes. [Abby] please let me know if I should delete some of all of them. The Times seems to be the frontrunner in publishing translated passages from the Spanish edition of the book. Though The Telegraph also obtained a copy. Here is TT’s story of how the book ended up being sold early in Spain:

The release of Prince Harry’s memoir was supposedly being conducted amid the tightest security.

No advance copies of Spare have been officially released ahead of its publication on Tuesday, and the publicity campaign has been restricted to a tiny handful of interviews with journalists selected for their sympathy towards Harry and Meghan.

Yet the couple’s best-laid plans were ruined when Spanish bookshops decided to put the memoir on sale five days early.

As news outlets rushed to snap up Spanish-language versions of the book - called En La Sombra, or In The Shade - the publishers’ PR strategy went out the window.

The Telegraph was able to obtain a copy at bookshops in Valencia.

Booksellers in the city said they were willing to break the strict publication embargo of January 10 as long as the book sale was not traced back to them.

Some book stores claimed they were not "officially" selling En La Sombra, but used the pretext of the southeastern city's Epiphany celebrations on Thursday - when presents are exchanged - to "gift" the book to shoppers.

To navigate the publication embargo, customers were told they would not be sent a receipt until January 10 and had to promise not to share its contents on social media before that date.

A spokesman for Plaza y Janes Editores, a Spanish subsidiary of Penguin Random House, said: “A very clear launch protocol was established and communicated to all customers so that the book would not be marketed before that date.

“Everything points to the fact that some customers have breached their commitment to the publisher and have put the book on sale before the agreed date.”

There was intrigue earlier in the day when what is believed to be an English-language copy of the book found its way to The Guardian, which published an extract in which Harry claimed that William physically attacked him in a blazing confrontation over Meghan. [I won’t include the latter part of the article.]
Rebecca said…
Harry drove through the Alma Tunnel in 2007:

He was in Paris for the Rugby World Cup and had been given a chauffeured car by the organisers.

On his first night there, he asked the driver to take him to the Alma tunnel, where Diana died with her boyfriend, Dodi Fayed, in a Mercedes driven by a Ritz Hotel employee who had been drinking.

Prince Harry recounts that he told the driver to go through the tunnel at 105km per hour (65mph) – the speed at which the Mercedes had been travelling when it crashed into a pillar halfway through the tunnel, according to a police report. The speed limit in the tunnel at the time of Diana’s death was 30mph.

He writes that he had always imagined the tunnel to be a dangerous piece of road on which drivers would have to pay close attention, “but it was just a tunnel, short and without major complexity”.

He decided it had been “a terrible idea” to drive through the tunnel at speed, but adds that it was the moment when all doubt about her fate disappeared. “‘She is dead,’ I thought. My God, she has truly gone forever,” he writes.
SwampWoman said…
Reading about him 'mounting' an 'older woman' (25? Or one of his friend's mums?) in a field behind a pub who spanked him afterwards made me want a sick bag. Ewwwww. That's right up near the top of the list of things I would never want to know about him.

Come to think of it, knowing anything at all about him is more than I want to know.
abbyh said…
Rebecca


The only time it appears to be a cut and past issue is with Harry Markle. They specifically say not to do that.

If in doubt, give the link and mention what specifically catches your eye that's worth mentioning.
Maneki Neko said…
Re H visiting a psychic

In another extract, Harry said he thought a close encounter with a leopard while on holiday in Botswana with his brother, William, was a message from their mother. (DM)

This worrying now...

SwampWoman said…
Sandie said:
He claims that William and Catherine were huge fans of Suits. I wonder if this is true. And I doubt that they would be so impressed that he was dating an actress - these are people who hang out with the likes of Tom Cruise.


It was an obscure series on USA network. I would expect that William and Catherine had much better things to do.
Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2023.01.05-211102/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11603989/CALLAHAN-Harry-recently-enraged-William-merely-existing-has.html

The above is well worth the read.

@Rebecca
Thanks so much for all the updates.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/prince-harry-told-to-shut-up-by-the-ex-marine-he-called-a-hero-202746544.html

A short piece, worth at least a glance.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

Re H watching scenes from Suits, I read about it in the DM and just cannot find the article at all. I wonder if it's been taken away. Anyway I found what you wanted in the Metro - free UK newspaper distributed in railway and tube stations - and a publication called US News

In his forthcoming memoir Spare, the Duke of Sussex, 38, admitted to “googling and watching” some of the actress’ past love scenes from the USA Network show.

Prince Harry's Ups and Downs With the Royal Family Over the Years
When viewing the scenes in question, Harry wrote that he had “witnessed her and a castmate mauling each other in some sort of office or conference room.”

‘I didn’t need to see such things live.’


This last sentence was in the Metro and I remember it from the DM article.

https://metro.co.uk/2023/01/05/prince-harry-regrets-googling-meghan-markles-suits-sex-scenes-18049541/

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/prince-harry-it-was-a-mistake-watching-meghans-sex-scenes/
Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2023.01.05-182651/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/01/05/princess-wales-demanded-apology-meghan-saying-had-baby-brain/

Hapless got a huge allowance from his father, did not pay rent and had many other freebies. How come she had to buy an Ikea couch and lamp for Nottingham Cottage (I assume)? I suspect that this was her way of claiming a presence in his life. Narcs do this - buy you something that they decide is what you need and like, and then expect gratitude.

And the duo go further than saying that Catherine made TBW cry ... they say that Catherine refused to turn up for a bridesmaid fitting.

There is a lot of detail in the article.

It reminds me of her podcasts, which she used to clap back at all and any criticism. I am convinced that she fed all of this to him, which he fed to the ghostwriter, who put it all in decent prose but probably did no fact checking. It is a memoir, so what and how I remember and tell the story is my truth ... Nope, it is your story but it is not truth. Perhaps the word 'truth' will go out of fashion and will be replaced with a word like 'fact' ... something that can be checked and verified, perhaps with the add-on 'as I recall' or something like that as insurance against shaky or partial recall.
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A new conversation for the age of Woke:
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I swear I am telling the truth.

Can I fact check that?
Humor Me said…
Dear Lord - every time I pull up the DM, there is something new from the book.
Will someone make it stop please?
This tit for tat tell all by H is to the point of cringe. It is embarressing.
And the man-child was stupid enough to cross the line and talk about Camilla.
He cries about everything - nothing is his fault. He is cut off, he want his family back after he has maligned them in print for all to read. He demands apologies. He thinks he is the center of the family, when the Family is carrying on with out him quite well.

My heart breaks for Charles, Camilla, and William. He is beyond their protection by his own actions.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

I have now found the DM article, they've put it in the Femail section

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11604113/Prince-Harry-admits-mistake-watching-Meghan-Markles-sex-scenes-biography.html

It's also in PageSix with 'Prince Harry says he needs “electric-shock therapy” to get Meghan Markle’s sex scenes from “Suits” out of his head.' (also in the DM article). A bit strong and a bit strange, I think.

These photos are not very royal or duchess like
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QSV5Y2BbBOI/maxresdefault.jpg
https://tinyurl.com/muj96asn

Karla said…
Spare
A few days ago, an article came out claiming that the security around that book to prevent leaks was similar to that of Harry Potter.

"Security levels around release of Prince Harry's memoir Spare are 'as high as those around publication of JK Rowling's final Harry Potter book'"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11595823/Security-Prince-Harrys-memoir-Spare-match-JK-Rowlings-final-Harry-Potter-book.html
...

Harry has two interviews (already recorded) Sunday -AC and TB- Before the official release date of the book (10. Jan)
...
Conspiracy Theories (author: myself)

Last night, The Guardian, a left-wing newspaper, leaked an excerpt from the book with the fight between William the Conqueror and King Harold. alluding to the Battle of Hastings 1066 which took place about 7 miles northwest of Hastings, near the present-day town of Battle in East Sussex (😂).
And Page Six leaked the claim that it was W&C who advised H to choose Nazi uniform. I think these two leaks came from Camp Sussex with the deliberate intention of grabbing headlines and leaving W&C in a minefield for a few days.
However, Spain anticipates the release of the Spare book, all the media have access to the book and begin to publish alternative excerpts that they want and without the duo's control.
And H throws RF in the mud and the media throws H too. Bizarre, dishonest, unnecessary snippets don't make H look any better. On the contrary, he looks like a lunatic, one lost in space, a madman drinking mushroom tea.
The focus is no longer on PW, but on H. (At least on twitter with #ShutUpHarry trending) Look at Karma!
The leak in the total book in Spain was done how?
How do many English language journalists already have material already translated into English in such a short time?
This leak didn't do H&M any favors, as almost the entire book (or the most interesting parts) are appearing in newspapers, Twitter, IG before the official release.
SwampWoman said…
Rebecca quoted:
Prince Harry recounts that he told the driver to go through the tunnel at 105km per hour (65mph) – the speed at which the Mercedes had been travelling when it crashed into a pillar halfway through the tunnel, according to a police report. The speed limit in the tunnel at the time of Diana’s death was 30mph.

He writes that he had always imagined the tunnel to be a dangerous piece of road on which drivers would have to pay close attention, “but it was just a tunnel, short and without major complexity”.

He decided it had been “a terrible idea” to drive through the tunnel at speed, but adds that it was the moment when all doubt about her fate disappeared. “‘She is dead,’ I thought. My God, she has truly gone forever,” he writes.


This part I believe is the truth.
SwampWoman said…
Holly said...
Death threats against the BRF on Afghan and Pakistani Twitter regarding Harry's killing 25 Taliban.


Well, they know where he (allegedly) lives.
abbyh said…
RE:

1) Baby Brain with Catherine allegedly saying that * is not close enough to discuss hormones

I am reminded of the time Catherine went shopping and for some reason did not invite * to join her.

2) The so-called attack by William to 5

What if 5 lost his balance, was falling and William tried to grab him to keep him from hitting some kitchen counter?

3) I can't find it now but one of the stories to come out of the book was about a visit of the 5's to William and Katherine at their cottage.

The comparison was that the his brother and wife had not just the better cottage but it was filled with fine art work, antiques while they were making do with furniture from Ikea and that * possible had to purchase a couch.

Well William and Catherine would sometimes do entertaining at their place (Obama and maybe others pre-covid). They might not exactly want that style (something about spending much of their time elsewhere which may or may not have been more child friendly) but it is classic. When 5 was more batching it, he may not have cared a lot about the interior look. So whomever may have felt he didn't want that so why put valuable furnishings and artwork where it might not have the respect it needed to keep it in pristine condition.

But the real thing is that many of that generation are more into the Ikea look (clean lines, minimal) than big, brown and old. Scandinavian is a lot closer to a California look than upper class British drawing room. It is really hard to find antique stores who will accept that big and brown stuff as it doesn't sell the way it used to. Ikea is a lot easier to move.

And ... we don't even know if 5s ever asked for better quality furniture now that he and she were planning on doing and being more participatory.
Fifi LaRue said…
Snarky might have something there about Maggot leaking parts of the book, and depositing the funds in a secret account. However, she's never been known to save a penny, she's blown all her money all the time. Hmmm...

Mole was beyond stupid to publish how many Taliban he killed.

@Rebecca: Thank you for all the re-posts.

So many clever comments on SM; all I can say about him is what a piece of work.
Girl with a Hat said…
@abbyh, the Cambridges' home was filled with antiques and classic furniture but they belong to the Crown, and are lent to them. Same with many other members of the BRF. All Harold had to do was ask and a variety of items available would have been made available to them. The BRF owns a huge collection of objects and they are more than willing to bring them out of storage to be used and displayed. There was no reason for them to buy their own furniture or decor.
DesignDoctor said…
A commenter on Saint MM Reddit said:
Do you think Spare will make Oprah’s Book Club?
😂 😂😂
snarkyatherbest said…
Girl with the hat. i’m guessing the family and courtiers already figured out if they lent them decorations and furniture they may not see them again. remember there weee rumors early in the courtship she tried to take pictures of private areas of kensington palace or specifics of the then cambridges private areas and sell them. like the blood diamonds. does she have them did she sell them? they weren’t gonna trust her with the good stuff i could just see the posting on ebay. vintage rug musty but likely walked on by queen victoria.
Anonymous said…
Didn't QE send over a list of art that the Sussexs were welcome to borrow to decorate the new Frog Cott home?
SwampWoman said…
I don't know about the rest of y'all but, were I Leaking Meg, I'd be so uneasy at the thought of accidentally destroying something priceless from the Queen's (now the King's) attic that I'd be far more comfortable with purchasing my own furniture.

But, sadly, the house would come with a perpetually aggrieved ginger. I'd rather live in tent on the beach, but it is a little stormy right now.
D notices - presumably can't be applied to journalists outside the UK.

I do think, however, that the Government and the Law need to get involved now. He's not just a security threat to the family but to a lot of innocent bystanders as well. Get him back here for his own safety, kept under lock & key if necessary; he's barely legally competent, IMO, and we don't want * as a widow.

I wonder if we can extradite him from the US? Blair's extradition treaty with the US was not in favour of the UK but perhaps now the majority of the US citizens would be keen to see the back of him.

The Spoonerism `Shining Wit' certainly applies to him.
Which is worse - revealing that the King still has his teddy bear or publicising the details of the future king's preputial surgery?

Danged if I know but I can't imagine that either CRIII or the PoW are very pleased about it.
SwampWoman said…
GABikerGirl said...
Didn't QE send over a list of art that the Sussexs were welcome to borrow to decorate the new Frog Cott home?


I wonder if there were any George Rodrigue Blue Dog paintings in there.
Rebecca said…
@Sandie

Thank you for the link to the Maureen Callahan piece in DM. It is excellent.
Rebecca said…
This tidbit in the DM is a bit alarming, I think:

Eternally the outsider, Harry appears to compare himself to King Henry IV, who was 'exiled and then returned to annihilate every obstacle and person that stood before him', adding: 'My distant relative. My soulmate, some would say.'
Rebecca said…
From The Spectator:

Adam Holloway MP
Sorry Harry, good soldiers don’t publicise their kill count


Years ago I was, like Prince Harry, an army officer. Since then I have spent a lot of time with long-serving professional soldiers. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anybody talk publicly about how many people they’ve killed.

Yet in his new book, the Duke of Sussex reportedly details that he flew on six missions that resulted in ‘the taking of human lives’ – something of which he says he is neither proud nor ashamed.

He apparently writes that, in war, soldiers do not usually know how many enemies they have killed. But:

In the era of Apaches and laptops [he was able to say] with exactness how many enemy combatants I had killed. And it seemed to me essential not to be afraid of that number. So my number is 25. It’s not a number that fills me with satisfaction, but nor does it embarrass me.

In fact, a lot of soldiers do know how many people they have killed. They just don’t think it is appropriate to publicise the kill count – never mind whether it is satisfying or embarrassing to them or whatever. It’s not about macho codes. It’s about decency and respect for the lives you have taken.

Whilst it’s absolutely correct that they were taking life in order to avoid loss of life, most people now appreciate that, certainly in Helmand province, most of those we were fighting were the local tribes people enraged at foreign troops in their districts and compounds. Most of us have now moved on from the neocon delusions of the Bush years – that we were fighting back al-Qaeda in southern Afghanistan. That’s something that Harry doesn’t appear to understand: as reports suggest, he says that he felt the Taliban were ‘enemies of humanity’, never forgetting watching news coverage of the 9/11 attacks on New York when he was at Eton. He later met the families of victims of the attacks on visits to America.

Even if Harry did feel some justified righteousness in fighting, that’s still no reason to publicise his kills.

I remember one heavily decorated SAS Warrant Officer friend telling me that when someone asked him how many people he had killed he would always respond: ‘That’s a bit like asking a woman how many men she’s slept with.’

That may be a somewhat sexist remark, since it’s equally grubby for a man to talk about his sex life – something which, funnily enough, Harry looks set to do in this tell-far-too-much memoir. He also looks set to describe losing his virginity aged 17 to an older woman in a field:

An older woman who liked macho horses and who treated me like a young stallion… I mounted her quickly, after which she spanked my ass and sent me away. One of my many mistakes was letting it happen in a field, just behind a very busy pub. No doubt someone had seen us.

That’s not exactly kiss-and-tell, but it’s hardly gracious. Harry is exhibiting – in such a cringe-inducing style – the precise opposite of what his grandmother exemplified: dignity, restraint, and an ability to not parade his emotions. He is doing great damage to the institution of the monarchy, particularly in the rest of the world.

Is there any confidence he will not break, or any discretion will he not now show in return for money?
Maneki Neko said…
@Girl with a Hat

I meant to thank you yesterday for the two Twitter links to the mock Bayeux Tapestry depicting 'Harold'. Very well done and very witty. I do hope Charles and William saw them. They need a good chuckle, as do we after His tawdry tale.
So much for wanting and declaring the Despicable Duo wanted privacy…Mole has invaded his and then emptied his entire wardrobe for the world to laugh and throw anger at.

Hmmm the only privacy or secret they actually really wanted to hide was how their children come from moveable moonbump(s) 🤥which have been visible. One such one was on a walkabout around Birkenhead in January 2019. 🙄 Throwing sand in everyone’s faces….thinking and hoping no-one would notice or in the least forget what was seen. 🤭🙄
Maneki Neko said…
I thought in his account of how he lost his virginity H had reached a new low but no, he's sinking even lower.

Surely even this is going too far Harry? Duke reveals he got frost nip on his penis during trip to the North Pole in his tell-all memoir
* Prince Harry spoke candidly about his penis becoming 'frostnipped' in new book
* Duke of Sussex revealed his genitals had become injured after trip to North Pole
* He also addressed media's fascination with genitals and uncircumcised rumours

I think this might be too much if you've just had breakfast. I read a few short paragraphs but my delicate constitutionnelles not permit meto read anymore. I need to reach for the smelling salts.
Teasmade said…
https://twitter.com/jomilleweb/status/1611256530669641728

An interpretation from late-night TV.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/104qmqm/all_day_1_revelations_from_leaked_copy_of_harrys/

A useful summary of all the revealations so far ... the media is spilling like crazy and my head is spinning from the deluge. Has anyone come across something new or a confirmation of what we guessed was probanly true or obvious lies or ...,?
Taz has pointed out that there are no photos of the broken dog bowl, although in *'s world, if there are no photos, it didn't happen.

I'd add that there are no photos of H's alleged injuries either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0VoKzdJC8Y
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/prince-harry-has-broken-four-military-codes-of-conduct-says-senior-army-officer-092710593.html
Prince Harry has broken four military codes of conduct, says senior Army officer

Ellen Manning
Fri, 6 January 2023 at 9:27 am GMT

Prince Harry has broken the values of the armed forces by speaking about his number of kills in Afghanistan, a former senior military advisor has said. (Getty)
Prince Harry has broken 'at least four values of the military' in his memoir that included his claim he killed 25 people while serving as an Apache helicopter pilot in Afghanistan.
Former senior British military advisor Major General Chip Chapman joined several military figures in criticising Harry's claim in his memoir Spare, branding it "crassly and naively stupid" as well as "disloyal".
He also warned that Harry's book opens him up to "every jihadist and nutcase out there".
He said Harry's claims had broken the values of respect for others, integrity, loyalty, and selfless commitment.
In his autobiography, of which copies have been seen ahead of its official release on Tuesday, Harry reportedly writes about his two tours of Afghanistan, in 2007/8 and 2012/13.
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His accounts include a series of bombshell claims, including the story of a physical fight between him and brother William over a conversation about Meghan.
His claim that he killed 25 people during his tours of Afghanistan, saying it was something he was neither proud nor ashamed of, has also attracted criticism from military figures.
Read more: Did Prince Harry write the book himself?
Speaking to Times Radio, Maj Gen Chip Chapman, a platoon commander in the Falklands conflict, said: "We have a code of conduct. It's the values and standards of the military and he's broken at least four of those values that include respect for others, integrity, loyalty, and selfless commitment.
"You can't be any more disloyal, either both to the Crown and the Crown being a member of your family, so from both of those perspectives it's not really good."
He added: "It's crassly and naively stupid from Harry, his publishers and his ghost writer."

Maj Gen Chapman, former head of counter-terrorism at the Ministry of Defence, said while Harry is no longer a serving member of the military, books such as his often exclude sensitive details such as casualties in Iraq or Afghanistan but that the duke's places him and his family in greater danger.
He added: "For him, who wants privacy and security, he's just opened himself up to every jihadist and nutcase out there."
He also said he had never come across the "body count mentality" Harry seemed to be demonstrating by pinpointing the number of people he had killed, saying he had "never, ever" come across it in the forces.
"You would have found it in Vietnam, it was the macro level thing. But it's an awful lack of judgement and maturity. It's a naive approach to how the miltary should act.
"We talk about jus in bello [International humanitarian law] conduct in war, this is a terrible conduct in peace.
"Also he was not on the ground. There's no way that he could id anyone or bury them so to give a specific number is, quite frankly, slightly ridiculous."
He said Harry would retain a degree of respect for the fact he is a veteran and work he had done to help members of the armed forces, including the Invictus Games, but added: "this dissipates the affection which people would have held in him".
Certainly swinging lamps and saying you've killed 'x number of people', I've never come across that in darkened bars in the UK anywhere, it's just not really talked about."
In the book, which was released early by mistake in Spain, Harry says he would watch a video of every "kill" from a camera attached to the nose of the helicopters he flew, saying: "It seemed to me essential not to be afraid of that number.
"So my number is 25. It’s not a number that fills me with satisfaction, but nor does it embarrass me."
Chapman is not the only military figure to criticise Harry's revelations over his time in Afghanistan.
The security warnings were echoed by Colonel Richard Kemp, who served in Afghanistan. "In terms of the numbers he’s talking about… He himself is already under threat for his own secret and by resurrecting it in quite such stark terms now undermines his own security;" Col Kemp told the BBC.
"That sort of figure that doesn’t need to be given. It will remind people that 10 years ago there was this very high-profile man killing people that they might have sympathy for in Afghanistan and might well be provoked to attempt revenge."
Former Royal Marine, Conservative MP for Beckenham Bob Stewart, who served seven tours in Northern Ireland and led UN troops in Bosnia, told the Daily Mail: "I wonder why he is doing such things. Real soldiers tend to shy away. People I know don't boast about such things. They rather regret that they have had to do it."
Sandie said…
There are some on social media and some tarot readers who think divorce is looming. He has to get to rock bottom and he is almost there. Some even predict that he is going to turn to alcohol and drugs.

As for her ... comments such as her waiting for a big expected payment to come in before she makes her move. Another prediction: his family will somehow be involved in giving her a settlement but it will not be nearly enough for her.

I think the one big reason she won't dump him is because she cannot be without a man and she will find it difficult to find a suitable replacement who allows himself to be completely manipulated and controlled. But maybe I am wrong about that. I just do not see her with a very wealthy very old man (a man who could be bamboozled) and I don't see a younger man, who would have other options, falling for her. (She is not going to make the billions on her own and she is not going to get billions from the royal family.)
Opus said…
I was greatly surprised to learn that Harold (as we must now call him) retains a donkey in his kitchen. You recall the passage where when being attacked by William it is said that he fell on his ass. This book is I think written by an American.

I was however impressed in learning that Harold had single handedly and without so much as a scratch killed no less than twenty five Afghani freedom-fighters. Twenty five I tell you. The victors of Afghanistan have many and wide tentacles Harold and are not I would suppose adverse to revenge on behalf of their brothers in arms (now that they have a face name and address to go with it).

I was however more sympathetic to Harold's cries of distress over being forced to watch the soft-porn scenes involving his wife in the cable-television drama I had never heard of, but I am afraid that actresses have to simulate feelings emptions and actions in their work and frankly if you can't stand that sort of things one best avoids dating thespians, yacht girls and the like. Maybe Harold has a cuckold fetish.

With regard to his getting laid for the first time it is said one learns ones cooking on old pans and Harold should be grateful he did it with someone who knew what she was doing. His seeming disgust at his own behaviour triggered my gaydar.

Then there was Harold's Count Dankula moment when he dressed as a German soldier but we are not really allowed to discuss that so I won't. Thank goodness he did not do it in Scotland.
NeutralObserver said…
A very quick perusal of the Twit & Twat headlines has me convinced that the wife gave copious notes to Hazmat's ghost writer; the claim that W & C were Suits fans, the pregnancy test story (Ugh, who does that?), the dog bowl fight, almost anything related to the wife reeks of her input. A woman who will make up stories about dancing in the streets in SA, a fire & her baby's room & air crew kneeling & thanking her, & who gave her comms secretary notes to pass on to the authors of a hagiography about her, is NOT going to pass up the chance to get her own crazy narrative out there in any way she can.

They should get their stories straight. Allegedly W referred to Twat as 'this girl,' & yet he & C were big fans of a show which wasn't widely available in the UK? The show was produced by a US cable company, but filmed in Toronto, which is much cheaper than New York or LA to work in. It wasn't a Canadian production. That whole story doesn't jibe with other things the pair has said about their 'archnemesis.' Is the wife trying to plant a narrative of W's secret attraction to her? I believe that as much as I believe Hazmat actually shot & killed 25 Taliban.

The pair of them seem to be delusional fantasists. Other than the the way they seem to have embroidered the truth, Hazmat is just another dim, boring, overindulged, aging rich kid. If the book sells well, I hope we don't see publishing rush to get the stories of other attention seeking scions of the very rich. Yawn. There is an endless supply of them.
NeutralObserver said…
The link that @Sandie gave us had a subheading on the miscarriage story. There is a lot of skepticism in the comments below it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/104ja2o/trigger_warning_miscarriage_harrys_book/

I can believe that William & Mole came to blows now & then, I've known brothers who fought over the last piece of pie. It's like the way puppies nip & snap at each other. I just don't believe the dog bowl story happened the way it's described in the book. There are photos online of the Nott Cottage kitchen showing metal & plastic dog bowls. Also, both W & Hazmat are relatively large men, would they really mix it up in such a small space? (I think Hazmat was humiliated when the big O sneered at Nott Cott., even though W & C had lived there before he did. It likely reminded of him of the ways that his family had supposedly mistreated him.)
NeutralObserver said…
I'm fairly certain that there were rumors of spats between the couple over the contents of the book. It sure seems as though what's-her-name got her oar in. My guess is that Hazmat allowed anything that she made up that made W & C look bad remain in the book.
ieschew said…
Out of all of it—ill advised and shocking as it is—the thing that really sticks in my craw is the assertion about picking off 25 Taliban. Papers are full today of long-serving military officers saying this breaks military code, this is the first they have ever heard a soldier talk about number of kills, this is not something real soldiers do, etc.

I think it speaks to one or a combination of three things: (1) As NeutralObserver and others say, Meghan’s pen wrote this book (and if so, how did Harold not preview drafts?), (2) this is how they think they’ll get free protection, (3) Harry is more ill and in her (and potentially others’) grip than even we realized. As mad and dumb as I think he is, I thought he would draw a line at stating or, worse, lying about number of kills when he was a soldier.

I thought this was just about getting at the RF.

It is so dangerous. This part was not even spoken about on the (US) Today show this morning, although they touched on all the rest of it. Did other shows touch on it or was it too much a security risk?

What do you all think?
Sandie said…
https://scorpiotwentythree.tumblr.com/post/705700437567881216/and-not-only-did-the-guy-totally-fall-for-her

I thought this long post was rather interesting ... an excerpt:

'She never wanted a life in good old England with dusty carpets and centuries old oil paintings. Had she wanted to live in such a style, then her previous homes would have reflected that. Her current Montecito home would reflect it right now too. No, she´s a 100% Soho House Beige Cali girl, who thinks avocado toast and some organic tea are the epitome of sophisticated entertaining.'
snarkyatherbest said…
so we hear the mummy made the pregnancy test turn blue story but i will be curious to see what else about the kids are in the book (well not enough to read it kind you 😉). the dedication is to his mom wife and kids but the pic is him and his mom. since he explains his truth through the lens of unfair treatment from family or press will he talk about the subterfuge around when archie was born (we fled frogmore cottage a few days before because the press was all over the long walk). hurtful press and social media about how his wife looked during her very stages of pregnancy.(you body shaming heathens) since the mrs wants to answer her critics all the time and including in this book will we hear about the fantastical rumors that they used a surrogate. heck if they did and the family got to her first it sure would be something to whine about wouldn’t it. anything other than stuff we see publicly that he puts a spin on. how he raising his kids differently? will any of the interviews cover anything about the kids or the pregnancy.
Observant One said…
@Neutral Observer: That story about the alleged miscarriage was 100% contrived/written by *. They must think that everyone is as stupid as they are. It is insulting.

My heart aches for Charles, Camilla, William and Catherine. This is a deeply personal betrayal being played out on the world’s stage. They cannot engage with him privately or publicly, because it would only make things worse. I hope that others will speak out on their behalf, like Ben McBean did. It’s not enough to hear from the usual Royal correspondents. This is just sad and painful to watch, knowing these are real people being hurt.

Girl with a Hat said…
there was a photo on Twitter of Harold in Afghanistan, sitting on his bunk, surrounded by his gear. His machine gun was hanging on the wall behind him. People in the know were laughing at the photo because at the end of the barrel of his gun was some sort of attachment to use when shooting blank shells.

It is called a blank-firing adapter or blank-firing attachment, sometimes called a blank adapter or blank attachment. It is a device used in conjunction with blank ammunition for safety reasons, functional reasons or a combination of them both. Blank firing adapters are required for allowing blanks to cycle most semi-automatic and automatic firearms.

If he were really a soldier on the front line, he wouldn't be using such an attachment in the front lines. In training, perhaps but not on the front line.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Rebecca,

about Harold thinking that Henry iv is his relative - hasn't he understood that the Tudors and the Windsors are not related?
Humor Me said…
The best reaction of "Spare" - Jimmy Kimmel Late Night skit.
Harry will never live this down.
Fifi LaRue said…
I breezed over something about Kate lent Maggot her lipgloss, or was it the other way around, Kate was without lipgloss and Maggot saved the day?

Snarky is usually astute in their postings; I wonder if Scooby Do got a third party to sell the book to certain outlets.

It seems that Mole has no boundaries when revealing information.
SwampWoman said…

Blogger Rebecca said...
This tidbit in the DM is a bit alarming, I think:

Eternally the outsider, Harry appears to compare himself to King Henry IV, who was 'exiled and then returned to annihilate every obstacle and person that stood before him', adding: 'My distant relative. My soulmate, some would say.'


Apparently Spare and Snare are of the opinion that he can just raise an army of California transgenders, thespians, and Karens, sally forth to England, and conquer KCIII and PoW through synchronized screeching. Bob's your uncle, he's the king and UK residents, you will all be very sorry.



SwampWoman said…
Opus said...
I was greatly surprised to learn that Harold (as we must now call him) retains a donkey in his kitchen. You recall the passage where when being attacked by William it is said that he fell on his ass. This book is I think written by an American.


I was a bit puzzled by that, too. I thought that it was supposed to be 'arse' but my knowledge of the nomenclature of the buttocks may be lacking.
SwampWoman said…
I just regaled SwampMan with the factoid that Harry had suffered frostbite on his penis while at the north pole. He probably tried to pee on it. Then I told SwampMan that he and his better brother are both circumcised. "He put that in his book? What kind of an idiot IS he?" "He thinks he is in exile and Henry IV is his soulmate. Apparently he aspires to conquer England." "WHAT?" "You want to hear how he lost his virginity behind a bar in an open field?" "No, I'm feeling a little queasy." "Did I tell you about how he single-handedly killed 25 Taliban?" "No. Did he read his proposed book to them until they expired?" "Good point. Harry may be a war criminal."
snarkyatherbest said…
oh dear we have a dramatic story about the miscarriage and burying the child under a banyan tree. yikes now they are going have to disclose to possible buyers of the house there is a body out in the garden. this part is totally the wife. too flowery out of a hollywood movie likely didn’t happen ((can’t bury human remains on private property in california. the hospital would release for that) she is so doubling down on things that people have criticized her for. it’s amazing and we all have been following this for a while. i wonder if lilibuck$ or archie birth are in such detail.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

she will find it difficult to find a suitable replacement
……………………
I think she certainly will. When H had the misfortune to meet her, she was an unknown quantity. Now she has a reputation, she is infamous the world over. No sane man, particularly an extremely wealthy one - nothing else will do for * - would touch her with a barge pole.

The question is now: where to, Harold? What's left?
What on earth made the publishers believe they could print Mole’s so called kill tally? Not only does it fly in the face of breaking military codes of conduct etc., it’s hideously disdainful, it also shows him completely lacking in any humility and empathy! 😡

I hope the military top brass call him to account!
xxxxx said…
Now that Hapless has taunted the Taliban, it would wise for the BRF to tell Hapless and M that are security risks. So stay in Montecito for the Coronation.

Here you have Taliban responding to Hapless' moronic brag of killing 25 of them. UK Daily Mail >>>>> https://archive.ph/nU4X1
and
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11606051/Furious-Taliban-taunts-big-mouth-loser-Prince-Harry-revealed-killed-25-enemies.html#comments

##### Aside from that, I doubt Hapless ever read the final version of the book. So he never saw the material that everyone can tell is Megan's. That she had inserted by ghostwriter JR Moehringer....... Much of it sabotaging Hapless. Many are talking about the obvious Meghan material in the book. Here and at Reddit.
snarkyatherbest said…
swampwoman. heathrow will show that california army something. can’t get out of the great hall for immigration for hours. bureaucrats winn!!

the book is over the top and the henry iv stuff is definitely treasonous. it’s like she or he or whoever really is barking at the royal family to pull all of it. perhaps if titles and los are gone so will be megs and this is how he is “Finding Freedom”
Maneki Neko said…
Re the 25 soldiers allegedly killed by H, apart from a really stupid thing to say, is this even true? Maybe he said 25 to big himself up. Or so wifey thought.
Fifi LaRue said…
Maggot buried a fetus on the Montecito property? Mole and Maggot just screwed themselves, or the owner of the property they're renting.

I live in the land of cold, and Mole's penis would have to be exposed for several minutes in order to experience frostbite. So, he was letting it all hang out?

The more Mole reveals, the more proof both of them need to be in separate mental institutions.
Maneki Neko said…
Re the row about Charlotte's bridesmaid dress, here is what happened afterwards:

After the discussion, Harry said he returned home to find Meghan sobbing on the floor of the kitchen, overcome with stress and worry.

This is laughable! A grown up woman, sobbing on the floor of the kitchen about a bridesmaid dress 🙄. Do I detect *'s prose? Always inclined to hyperboles.

The more I read about those two, the more repulsive they are.
Sandie said…
@ieschew
I think you are spot on.

The publisher and ghostwriter must have known the damage all this sensationalism would do, but boasting about how many Taliban he killed ... it is astounding that is in the book.

I worked in book publishing for many years and as an editor I would have fought to delete that from the book.

I am not sure that TBW consciously is trying to do him damage. My take on her is that she is clueless but her arrogance and delusional self belief prevents her from learning anything. She thinks this will be their meal ticket, like a Kardashian, and has no regard for the damage she is doing to other people, like his family, who actually love him. She has no idea how inappropriate and ill-advised most of the content is. (Of course she was the source of most of the content.) This is the woman who was offended when William rebuffed her hug when they first met!
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@SwampWoman ... I am glad you are still here and really enjoyed your post. I particularly liked the ending of your tale of the exchange with your husband: "Did I tell you about how he single-handedly killed 25 Taliban?" "No. Did he read his proposed book to them until they expired?" "Good point. Harry may be a war criminal."
abbyh said…
Ask to "borrow" some of my lip gloss?

Ah that's a h*ll no in my book. That's a highly personal item. I would have concerns about cold sores and other transmittable "things". I was out makeup shopping this week and they still make a big deal about cleaning before handing you something to put on your face.



I seem to remember Diana being most unhappy when she lent shoes to Fergie and the claim was that warts were passed on to Fergie that way.

From Saint Meghan Markle:

Seals gave Harry a sign that he would be a father when he was in Scotland and a group of seals sang to Meghan in response to her singing to them from a boat.

`If you look for signs, you will surely find them’ a wise counsellor once said to me.

As for the seals, so what?

There’s nothing mystical about Atlantic/grey seals being drawn to singing – it’s what they do. Hell! They’ve even popped their heads out of the water in response to my less-than-impressive mezzo! Not sure about our other species, the common or harbour seal , or if Californian sealions do it, as they’re different animals altogether.

Perhaps * had read the nature notes and used it against H. He hadn't read the notes, hence he swallowed the `sign' assertion?
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/harry-wanted-diana-inquiry-reopened-153714065.html
PA Media: UK News

Harry wanted Diana inquiry reopened and once believed she faked her own death

Also re the disappearance of the white Fiat that's never been found:
France is a large country with a great deal of open country and farmland. Easiest thing in the world to hide a car in a remote barn and leave it to rust away out of sight.
The first I heard of frost-nipped willies was from actor David Niven in his autobiography `The Moon's a Balloon' (1971). It'd happened to him during a long, fast, downhill run, IIRC, when skiing in the Alps.

I wonder if * has read that book?

BTW, Wikipedia records this apposite witticism:

In 1974, while Niven was co-hosting the 46th Annual Oscars ceremony, a naked man (Robert Opel) appeared behind him, "streaking" across the stage. In what instantly became a live-TV classic moment, Niven responded "Isn't it fascinating to think that probably the only laugh that man will ever get in his life is by stripping off and showing his shortcomings?".
Rebecca said…
@Sandie
I worked in book publishing for many years and as an editor I would have fought to delete that from the book.
____________
I was going to ask you about that! It is puzzling (to say the least) that PRH allowed Harry’s Taliban kill stat to remain in the text.

Also, I wonder if the idiot is aware of the fact that many of the millions of illegal aliens pouring over the US-Mexico border are Islamic terrorists? Did he think he would boost his chances of getting 24/7 security paid for by his father and/or the UK if he included his Taliban kill stats in the book?
My apologies for posting in blocks - it's just that there's nobody else here at the times I catch up.
Rebecca said…
@WBBM

https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/found-the-mystery-white-fiat-uno-driver-in-diana-death-crash-7271422.html
Rebecca said…
@SwampWoman
I wonder if there were any George Rodrigue Blue Dog paintings in there.
_____

Or, Dogs Playing Poker! I could see that over their mantelpiece.
NeutralObserver said…
Reading the comments here & elsewhere has convinced me that almost the entire book is a Maggot opus. Mole may have been shown extracts now & then, but it just doesn't seem as though a male dictated it, as in the frostbite comment @SwampWoman mentioned. Is Mole a complete girly man? Also, calling Prince William 'Willy' seems to have Maggot's maliciousness. The book just seems strange, disjointed & loony. Maggot's Cut interview was all of those things. Perhaps they truly are soulmates, united in their lunacy. Someone, please remove their poor children from them!

@Ieschew, I wondered the same thing. The Taliban kills allegation is so they can justify taxpayer funded security. It sounds like a Maggot ploy, as Mole should have known better & it violates all kinds of military protocol. Another reason I think it's a Maggot invention is that I don't think she cares if anything happens to Mole. I think she would welcome widowhood.

@ObservantOne, I feel sorry all of their family, his & hers. I don't know which of the two of them is more toxic.

@Sandie, Ha! The Tarot card readers say Hazmat 'will' turn to drugs & alcohol? I think that ship sailed a long time ago.

Where is Hikari? On a midwinter break? I would love to read her thoughts on this literary excrescence.
Rebecca said…
This is trivial compared to most revelations in the book, but apparently Charlotte burst into tears when she tried on her bridesmaid dress because it was too big, long and baggy. That sounds credible.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11607465/Prince-Harry-reveals-believed-Diana-faked-death-staging-Paris-tunnel-tragedy.html#comments

Harold believed that his own mother faked her own death to get away from her miserable life. He doesn't really believe she loved him, does he?
Rebecca said…
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NeutralObserver said…
@Sandie, your 12:44 AM comment. Unbelievable, the entire Telegraph article is a point by point list of Maggot grievances which she wants to avenge. Catherine said, "I know Meghan that I was the one who made you cry.” ? Really? This I don't believe.

Also, for the record, I have been an American all my life, & can't recall ever going to dinner parties where husbands & wives were seated next to one another. Who does that? The purpose of a dinner party is to expand one's social connections. You don't want to sit next to someone whom you see at breakfast every morning. What on earth is she talking about? If she had to sit next to Hazmat at dinner parties, she must have been very socially awkward at almost 40!
Rebecca said…
This is the latest from Hilary Rose in The Times and it is one of her best! If you need a boost after slogging wearily through all the mud in Harold’s book, this will help:

How Harry wrote Spare — as imagined by Hilary Rose

So I’m sitting in the dog basket with a blanket over my head. It’s my safe space. Meg and I are going through all the key points I want to say in my book, which is an autobiography, but it will be written by someone else not me, because duh.

“So let’s take it from the top,” says Meg, who is sporting a smokey eye, a nude lip and just a hint of a frown to show that she’s concentrating, but prettily, and not so much that it might cause wrinkles later.

“Let’s go,” says the ghostwriter.

“Wait,” I say. “Can you hear me under the blanket? Am I muffled?”

“Yes,” says Meg. “But it’s for the best. Start talking.”

“Well,” I say. “I was two and Willy stole my train set. It was Henry the green engine and I really, really loved Henry the green engine and he knew that, which is why he stole it, the bastard.”

“Oh, my love,” says Meg. “How you suffered.”

“And we had to share a bedroom at Balmoral,” I say, warming to my theme, “and his half was bigger.”

“Is that mathematically possible?” says the ghostwriter. “For one half to be bigger?”

Meg frowns at him, but prettily.

“Willy had a double bed as well,” I say, and that clinches it.

Meg says let’s fast-forward to the bit where you’re embarking on active service in Afghanistan, because no one else in the royal family has ever served in the military, or something, possibly because they’re a bunch of pacifist wusses.

“Didn’t your brother serve in the military?” says the ghostwriter.

“Your father? Your uncle Edward?”

I shrug.

“They didn’t see active service.”

“I think your uncle Andrew went to the Falklands?” he says to the dog.

Meg freezes. The dog retreats.

“Moving on,” says Meg.

“I didn’t just risk lives, I ended them! I shot 25 Taliban fighters!” I say proudly, bursting out from under the blanket and flexing my pecs. “Twenty-five of them! I counted!”
Rebecca said…
Meg eyes me while chewing prettily on a pencil, but not so much as to ruin her lipstick.

“You counted all the way to 25?” she says. “That’s wonderful, honey, I’m so proud. But we need to make sure your book speaks to an American audience who might one day vote me into the White House. So, were you standing in your knowing at the time? Or sitting in your authenticity? Or did you maybe not kill them, but try to talk to them about the choices they’ve made in life, and how meditation might help?”

I snuggle back under the blanket and think about it for some time.

“No, I was sitting,” I say in the end. “Definitely sitting, in an Apache helicopter gunship with guns and bombs and stuff to blast the bastards to smither—”

“Um, the blanket seems to be twitching in your lap.” says the ghostwriter. “Could you straighten it?”

I take a deep breath and think about chickens.

“I’m not sure bragging about how many people you’ve killed is a good look,” he says.

“But no one is looking at me,” I protest. “I’m under a blanket. And besides, they were foreigners.”

Meg winces.

“I think William and Kate told me to say that,” I say. “Or maybe I won’t say exactly who in the book, I’ll just leave it hanging. That worked brilliantly before.”

“Let’s move on, honey,” says Meg soothingly, and the blanket starts to twitch again.

My mobile rings. It’s my psychic.

“See that palm tree over there?” she says.

“Wow!” I say. “You’re not here in California, you have no idea we’re surrounded by palm trees, but you still know there’s a palm tree over there! That’s incredible.”

“Yeah,” she says. “Isn’t it. Anyway, that palm tree over there? It’s Henry the green engine. He’s trying to send you a message. It might be ‘choo choo’ but the connection isn’t strong today.”

She hangs up.

“So,” says Meg, consulting her notes. “You say that you lost your virginity to an older woman, in a field, behind a pub. Are we sure we want to stick with that? We could make it ‘in a bed, with a beautiful young woman who you were madly in love with, by the light of the full moon’.”

“But that isn’t true,” I say.

Meg shrugs.

“And I mounted her like a stallion,” I say proudly. “A ginger one.”

“Wait,” says the ghostwriter. “Is Jilly Cooper ghostwriting this book? Or me?”

“Jilly who?” says Meg, glancing up from her copy of How to Sue The Press Until They Only Write Things You Like.

Rebecca said…
“And another thing,” I say. “The Nazi uniform? William and Kate told me to wear it. And the cocaine I snorted? That too. And the weed. Or maybe it was my dad who told me to smoke the weed. I forget. Does it matter?”

“No,” says Meg. “It’s the gist we’re interested in. Get to the bit where we’re married and living in Kensington Palace.”

“Yeah,” I say. “Except we were in a grotty little cottage with roses round the door and Willy and Kate were in a big flat with oil paintings and antiques and stuff. It’s not fair.”

“I thought the dream was something more like Soho House?” says the ghostwriter. “I thought you wanted vegan paint and yoga studios, grey and white with little pops of colour provided by oversized vase of peonies?”

Meghan stares at him.

“That’s not the point,” she says.

“It isn’t?” he asks.

“No. Their stuff was from the V&A. Ours was from Ikea.”

“And his bedroom was bigger than mine when I was ten,” I add, helpfully. “And it probably still is. And where’s my Henry the green engine?”

“Carry on,” says Meg, and I get momentarily distracted thinking of a young Barbara Windsor doing chest exercises in a bikini.

“And Willy hit me and knocked me over,” I say. “Or at least I said he did, and that’s all that counts, and what are the chances of him suing? Zero.”

Meg smiles.

“I’m a big boy now,” I add, “and I didn’t hit him back, I told him to get out. Although if I’d been in my Apache helicopter gunship I might have —”

“Shhh,” says Meg, and I subside, and we move on to how awful Camilla might have been, and yet as it turns out wasn’t, but let’s focus on the first bit.

“I was worried that she would be a wicked stepmother,” I say.

“Camilla?” says the ghostwriter. “Remind me. Housewife and mum from Wiltshire who had the misfortune to fall in love with the man who would be king?”

“That’s the one,” I say. “She could have been a wicked stepmother and that is my truth. Would she give me a poisoned red apple? Would I wake up in a bed with a pea in the mattress? If I throw down my hair will a princess be able to climb up and rescue me?”

“Wait,” says Meg. “I think you’re confusing your fairy stories.”

“Is that bad?” I ask, puzzled. “I thought that’s what we told Oprah, and you said it was good.”

“That was then,” she says. “We need to co-ordinate our fairy stories now. So, no peas. No apples. Yes, my love, they are part of our five a day, but trust me on this. And give up on the hair.”

The psychic calls again with a message from Mum. It’s something about a Christmas tree ornament that Archie has broken, and the ghostwriter nods and says if Princess Diana was getting in touch from beyond the grave it would definitely be about Christmas tree ornaments, and can we get to the bit where William says Meghan was difficult, rude and abusive?

“Aha!” I say. “He was brainwashed. By the beastly press. You might think they wrote that Meghan was a breath of fresh air and just what the royal family needs and hurrah for Meghan BUT back in 2016, in invisible ink, between the lines, they made up beastly lies about her.

“And that’s what Willy read. And believed. Because he’s a bastard and he was born first and I wasn’t and he stole my toy train.”

“And it’s not fair?” finishes Meghan.

“You’re so right,” I tell her. “And that is why I love you.”

“Everything’s going to be OK, my little ginger stallion,” she says.

I get off her lap and we go through to the kitchen.

“That dog bowl is triggering,” I tell her.

“I know, my love,” she says. “But get back in the basket and put the blanket over your head. I love it when you do that. It suits you.”
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Observant One said…
@ Swamp Woman said:
Apparently Spare and Snare are of the opinion that he can just raise an army of California transgenders, thespians, and Karens, sally forth to England, and conquer KCIII and PoW through synchronized screeching. Bob's your uncle, he's the king and UK residents, you will all be very sorry.

I don’t know how to italicize quotes on my iPad… But the quote I pasted above is hands down the best one I have read on this site! I snorted my sacred Peach Oolong tea (that I guard with my handgun) through my nose after I read this! Swampie - you are a delight! God bless you!

I came here, (after reading the latest traitorous garbage in the DM) to say that I think they are trying to destroy the Royal Family. There is no doubt in my mind, now. I think someone is helping them. I certainly hope that Parliament acts to strip their titles and remove them from the LOS. If they can erase his title as Prince, I say BRING IT ON!

Their shock over Will and Kate’s apartment is pure bullshit. There are pictures of Harry in that apartment with the Obamas! Please dear God - let someone tear this to shreds, line by line. I will gladly share my Peach Oolong tea with whoever it is!

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