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Celebrating the Big Day!

At last, the coronation.  

How are you celebrating?  food? drink?  dress up?  tiara?  

Whilst we celebrate, take a look at a nice history of the all the earlier Kings and Queens.  It ends while Her Majesty was still alive.  And for all the UK citizens, please note that they do have a mistake or two but note the correction in the description.  For the rest of us, sometimes it is nice to see the origins of something as we don't always have a good overall vision of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evArztIZpYw

Probably not mentioned by the talking heads is the history of the Abbey.  It began on what was then called Thorney Island (marsh area where the Thames and Tyburn met) as Benedictine monastery (960 something).  

More likely they will be talking about how there will be females singing in the choir.  And, that there is a distinct attempt to connect with all the different groups of people who make up the kingdom of today.  


The new era has begun with lots of changes.  May the new King live long and have peace in the land.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZGRxn9eCxU




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abbyh said…
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abbyh said…
Aware I am of the magnitude of this impact event, that perhaps a few emotions may be running high and that people wish to express their feelings at the moment.

I will try approve comments as quickly as I can. Between work, limited breaks and very slow internet there, home life outside work and that I do need some sleep (sometimes - their coffee is not enough to help me I discovered on Friday work), ... so this will all probably will be not as quickly as both you and I would like.

I am sorry. My apology for this to you. Bad timing all the way around.

OCGal said…
@abbyh, thank you for all your hard work in our behalf.

No need to apologize for having a life and work outside of your volunteer duties as moderator.
snarkyatherbest said…
thanks abbyh!

we are gonna set the alarm early and watch in bed. sadly our bedroom tv doesn’t have internet so will have to watch it on US tv. prob fox. problem is Marth Maccalum will be bring up all the princess diana stuff (she’s worse than some of us about royal gossip or maybe she is one of us 😉) ainsley airhead who giggled and said stupid stuff during the jubilee and piers morgan who will be mildly interesting. would rather has the hushed golf announcer tones of the BBC announcers. oh well.

i’m guessing we get the archie party pic with a few of the WME clients in attendance. she won’t release it til later in the day for US impact and for after the whole balcony thing in london. if we do t hear from her it’s because someone at WME is tasked with keeping her away from a computer. that person will get a well deserved bonus.
Girl with a Hat said…
ooh, I've never seen a coronation live before.
HappyDays said…
Looking forward to tomorrow morning. Will get up just before 5am Eastern Daylight Time here on the east coast of the US.

I still remember watching the investiture of Charles as Prince of Wales. My mother made sure we watched it because of the historic nature of the ceremony. I remember my mom telling me “He’s going to be King someday.”

Little did anyone in my family know he wouldn’t become King until 22 years into the next century. I wonder what Charles would have thought to himself if he had the luxury of a peek into the future only to learn he’d be POW until his mid-70s before ascending to the throne!

I plan to sit in my pajamas in front of the tv with a nice bowl of steel cut oatmeal with a bit of cinnamon and brown sugar and a mug of hot chocolate. I still have the recipe for coronation chicken that was provided here on this blog. I made it in honor of the Queen’s Jubilee last year. I brought it to a neighborhood picnic that day. It was delicious!

Congratulations to all of our British nutties and nutties in Commonwealth countries. May Charles enjoy a peaceful, productive reign with Camilla at his side, and William and Kate in supporting roles.
HappyDays said…
Raise your hand if you remember your fourth birthday.

At that age, they could throw a birthday party a month from now and he would not know the difference.
Well chaps, this is it!

It's 5.30am here in dear old Devon. Perhaps one or two Nutties recall Peter Dawson (Australian baritone, d.1961) singing `Devon, Glorious Devon' but today, sadly it's far from glorious - the rain is pelting down. Still, it was forecast that we'd be getting to worst of it so perhaps it'll be OK in London.

I've still got 2 sponges to make - I'm in my dressing gown, with coffee, and there are just 2 hrs before the formal Coronation TV prog starts. Have cleared enough space on the DVD player & set it for the lot. Husband bought 2 boxes of large Kleenex for me so I'm prepared to blub. There's something so emotional about it - I think it's the horses, plus memories of'53 and my 7 years as a `military wife'.

The joy with which the people greeted Charles on his walkabout yesterday was so heartening - he absolutely charmed them. Fingers crossed, all will go well. (Do any other nations cross their fingers? It's usually said to be `for luck' but it's actually a discreet way of crossing oneself. I wonder when it started).

God save the King!
Perdition to faithless princes,
And confusion to his enemies!
Apparently, the national majority gastronomic decision has been in favour of Coronation Chicken - I imagine that few realised that dried tarragon would do (few people are familiar with it - I love it) as would frozen broad beans (some folk don't realise they're seasonal so fresh beans aren't available yet).

I hope everyone enjoys whatever special dish they are consuming today.

Thank Goodness Meghan's not coming (DV)
Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2023.05.05-211842/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12052487/Prince-Harry-jetted-UK-coronation-commercial-American-Airlines-flight-morning.html

No photographic evidence, but it seems he arrived on a commercial flight. The private jet was probably Katy Perry.
Sandie said…
https://nypost.com/2023/05/05/queen-elizabeth-reportedly-called-meghan-markle-evil/

NYPost has now reported on the story of the late Queen calling TBW evil.

I believe that this did happen. I wonder how the duo will respond to this bit of piping hot tea being released just before the coronation, when royalist fervour is on a high.
Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2023.05.05-211842/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12052487/Prince-Harry-jetted-UK-coronation-commercial-American-Airlines-flight-morning.html

No photographic evidence, but it seems he arrived on a commercial flight. The private jet was probably Katy Perry.
Petunia said…
Sky News reporting that Mole has been invited back to BP after the ceremony.
Petunia said…
I'm staying up all night here in Wisconsin, wearing my best bathrobe. Snacking and tidying and watching the BBC on TV, Sky on YouTube, and snarking on Reddit and Facebook. I wonder what TBW is thinking. You KNOW she's watching live and texting Aitch every five seconds.
Ian's Girl said…
I'm up already, 230a.m. CT, watching on Brit Box. It was the earliest coverage I could find. I'm thrilled to be able to watch, though disappointed they've done away with ermine and coronets. I've got my own tiara on, a bit of Southern over-the-topness, and will be dining on leftover Mexican food and croissants. Still mourning Her Late Majesty, if I'm honest, but I know that Charles will be a splendid monarch.

God save the King!
snarkyatherbest said…
hubby set the alarm. watching on PBS which has the BBC coverage. no tiaras lots of robes. harry and his lack of hair arrived
Rebecca said…
Poor Princess Alexandra, having to sit beside Harry.
snarkyatherbest said…
so last time it was a candle this time it’s princess anne’s feather on her hat ha. can see why M isn’t there. P of W and princess charlotte are slaying it!!
Humor Me said…
Good morning from across The Pond.
What is the word on the tiara that Catherine is wearing?
Dear Daughter is wailing about the cost of a new tiara (insert eye roll).
Any booes for Hapless H?
@HumorMe,

It’s a headpiece instead of a tiara. It’s made with silver bullion, crystal and silver thread work three-dimensional leaf embroidery.😐

I thought it contained diamonds, but at least it wasn’t quite the floral headpiece it could’ve been. I think it’s a travesty not having tiaras and all the other regalia,, I’m still smarting over that. 😟
Humor Me said…
finally found the write up on the "tiara"/ headpiece: a Jess Collett x Alexander McQueen Headpiece with silver bullion, crystal and silver thread work three-dimensional leaf embroidery.
charlotte wears a smaller version.
The screens for the anointing are gorgeous!
Rebecca said…
Louis has disappeared.
Humor Me said…
Sharp eyed Daughter noticed that Prince Louis have left the Abbey seating.
Bless his little heart - this is a ton of ceremony for a 5 year old.
HappyDays said…
William, Kate, George, and Charlotte look absolutely smashing!

Good to see Harry stuck back several rows and largely out of the view if the camera, just wearing a suit and his medals.

If the petulant Harkles had not run away and remained as working royals, they would likely be up in the front row with bling similar to Kate and Charlotte.

No balcony appearance for them either.
Perhaps there is a balcony at their pile in Montecito where Meghan can go out and wave at her fellow sharks in the Pacific Ocean today.
Sandie said…
Late to the party here ... Gosh, Catherine looks regal, like a queen! Just catching up, but looks like Charlotte and Sophie also have tiaras made up of silver leaves. Louis looks like he is on best behaviour, with sister Charlotte supporting, guiding and reassuring him (definitely a Princess Royal in waiting!), and it all looks rather splendid.

William has this 'I know my brother is there behind me but I am not even going to look at him' expression on his face. Him paying homage to his father had me all choked up ...

I notice the cousins did talk to hapless. He is a close relative that they love, after all! He looked a bit 'bare' walking alone without the claw! DM has lip readers picking up on conversations ... rather mundane!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12053983/What-Princes-Harry-said.html

HappyDays said…
I can’t believe that Harry’s wife actually thought that it would be appropriate to note Archie’s birthday at some point during this solemn and spectacular coronation service.

She is totally clueless.
Sandie said…
George as a page boy ... iconic ... and Major Johnny stand behind the page boys holding the robe! I'm a wreck!

Camilla looks gorgeous, radiant ...

I am off to pore over all the photos and details .... but I did notice hapless looking in his brother's direction and scowling. The bloody idiot can fix this, because there is every indication that his family do still love him ... but he has to grow up and take responsibility for his spiteful and reckless actions and words.
snarkyatherbest said…
ok fro a distance during the recessional as the duke and duchess of edinburgh got up two guards stood by the row where harry was making sue someone didn’t jump the line? very interesting
Humor Me said…
H bowed his head as his father KCIII newly crowned, processes out.
and bless his little heart, H sings the anthem - his mouth is moving!
HappyDays said…
You Brits are absolute masters of pomp and pageantry. Brilliant!

Cameras are showing Harry outside of the church. His baldness is spreading forward on his head. His reported hair transplants don’t seem to be working.
Humor Me said…
"Coronation" Breakfast cassarole just in time for the Coronation Parade! Yum.
I am enjoying this and looking forward to the Balcony and the flyover (I love flyovers - one time I was on a parking lot one block from an event receving the honor: the parking lot vibrated and my car was bouncing from the effects of the flyover. What power!!)
Sandie said…
https://anonymoushouseplantfan.tumblr.com/

Plant is back for the coronation! I always find her analysis of what is going on with the duo very good! Here is a sample:

"She has no passions. She has no center. She built a fake persona and there's really nothing behind it."
...

"Now that she has the resources to finally be herself she's basically a narcissistic blogger bitching about her job and family."

NeutralObserver said…
Watched some of the coronation on GBNews, with commentary by the redoubtable Nigel Farage & the historian David Starkey. The images were beautiful, & thankfully free of unnecessary talk. I thought the coronation was dignified & beautiful, with obvious thoughtful historical & cultural references which are so characteristic of King Charles III.

I was struck at moments by the physical frailty of both the King & the Queen. They managed to get through the ceremony without mishap. Those crowns look very heavy. Camilla, in a few tiny moments, looked a bit unbelieving that she was actually being crowned queen. I thought it was endearing & made her relatable, but her subjects might disagree. I doubt the late Queen showed any expression at at all during her coronation, but she was born & bred to the role, as was King Charles.

As an American & lifelong church goer, I thought the ceremony had a thoughtful mix of traditional Christian imagery with subtle nods to the Britain of today.I think a more abbreviated ceremony was a good decision. I was touched by PM Sunak's reading from Colossians. I hope he doesn't draw any criticism for doing so. I also thought adding ordinary Britons to the mix of the great & the good was a good idea. It made the audience more like an actual church service.

Prince William's part in the service was graceful & touching. I didn't mind the Princess of Wales' silver wreath, but I know many love the jewels & regalia that royalty & aristocrats are entitled to wear, & were disappointed that more finery wasn't on display.

A beautiful service, beautifully executed, as we have come to expect from the UK. I have to admit I was worried that some malevolent actors might try to spoil things, as my own country has been so plagued by such things, but it looks like things have been carefully controlled.
Petunia said…
I'm bummed there were no tiaras. I thought the headpieces looked tacky. I wanted to see robes, coronets, tiaras, and gowns. They've had to cut back the flypast due to the crummy weather. Bummed about that, I love the old WWII planes.

I did notice that Mole sang God Save The King and bowed his head as his father walked past. I wonder how many text messages TBW sent him during the ceremony.
DeerAngels said…
Please understand haven't slept much only sleeping for 2 - 3 hrs for past 3 days. Except for this morning I get up late missing some of coronation. No prob just will watch later what I missed.
@Snarky that feather was perfect wasn't it. Great way to start a day with humour like that. Send a big candle with big feather attached to it as souvenir to California. And he was worried about who would sit behind him and row he would be sitting in. Don't worry about Major Johnny sitting behind him, he was busy being part of coronation helping the King. Oh yeah your now in 3 rolls back. Should have sent confirmation you coming sooner.
Loved the hair decorations worn, not sure of proper name. Can someone please help with letting me know about the robes worn by Princess of Wales and Duchess Sophia?.
Almost all the music was lovely though I don't care for those who treat their pieces as `look-at-meus performances' . I felt that applied to Bryn Terfyl - too operatic ( I didn't like the Welsh language Kyrie much and could see the point of the old practice of services in Latin - Greek in the case of the Kyrie.

Kyrie eleison = Lord have mercy.

As for all that writhing by the Gospel Choir...

Catherine was breath-takingly beautiful. Camilla looked pretty good too.

Harry's bald patch looked like a helicopter landing pad in shots from above.

The King looked as if he was struggling with emotion, or was he afraid of what H might do? Husband reckoned he didn't join in with one expression of loyalty.

At least Meghan wasn't there - as far as we know.
snarkyatherbest said…
is it me or was charles trying to make sure the money shot on the balcony was only gonna be him, camilla and the pages and not the family. him is monarch but the grandpa image makes him more popular and relatable.
Maneki Neko said…
We saw the flypast, or past of it - just the helicopters - fly over the house. I was sorry it was scaled down because of the weather. They just had helicopters and the Red Arrows.
Hoping to see a proper flypast for Trooping the Colour.

According to the press, Harold arrived yesterday on a commercial flight, AA136, at 11.23 am. I checked on Flightradar24 but that flight arrived at 10.37 am (due at 10.50). Also he was apparently picked up straight from Westminster Abbey after the Coronation and taken to Heathrow. Much was made of the fact that he was heading back in time for Archie's birthday. There are 3 flights to LA at around 4 pm, arriving at around 7 pm. If so he won't be home until 8/8:30 pm local time at the earliest. It doesn't make sense. Maybe his handler ordered him to fly back immediately after the ceremony.
NeutralObserver said…
I thought all the ladies looked gorgeous, The Queen, the Princess of Wales, the Duchess of Edinburgh, Lady Louise, the Yorks, etc.. The Middleton family looked very handsome as well. The children all seemed beautifully behaved. Hard to see how it could have gone better. Everyone just shrugged off the rain.
Mel said…
AbbyH.....thanks for all you do to keep this blog up and running!

Looks like H wore his heel lifts today. Didn't do him much good though.
I hated the way he slouched down the aisle. He did that at the funeral, too.
KnitWit said…
I caught bits and pieces of the coronation. I miss the tiaras and jewels, but respect the king's desire to modernize the ceremony

Prince Andrew honored the unknown soldier but H didn't. He was too busy strutting for the cameras or whatever he was doing. He seemed to be looking around to see if anyone was looking at him. Today isn't about him.


Princess Anne's plumed hat blocking sourpuss was masterful seating.

He is wasting money on baldness treatments. Seems he is more interested in saving his hair than saving the world. Making no progress on either.

Press said H is invited back to BP. Think they will strip search him and make him pee in a cup? Probably not, wishful thinking...


@NeutralObserver and Petunia,

The lack of regalia etc was down to King Charles’ choice to have a less grander, and toned down Coronation. There would’ve been many non royal Dukes with their wives had we been treated to the same pomp and ceremony the late Queen had.


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I recorded the Coronation both Sky and the BBC. I usually prefer the former. The whole occasion was far better than I imagined, it wasn’t as toned down as thought it might be; it wasn’t farcical. I loved seeing the Jubilee and the gold state coach. Both Catherine and William looked wonderful and little Louie is still my favourite! 😃


We’re having our Coronation street thing tomorrow. The weather has been wet and unseasonably cold. There will be a marquee and the weather is supposed to be a bit warmer. 😉
snarkyatherbest said…
so looks like Dior posted that they dressed hairy in one of their suits. tacky as usually merching the coronation. well i guess we know why he was there. will crest be the official toothpaste of hairy at the coronation?

so when do we get the Archie pic? or is mrs just fuming at this point or is she laughing that hairy got the “candle” treatment.

thought all the ladies looked lovely. Lady Louise wow you have certainly gained poise and polish. loved that. P of Wales. and mini me Charlotte. slaying it! Camila’s dress had dogs embroidered on the bottom. nice touch!!

even the BBC commentators talked about Louis. what a good little boy. ha! loved the kids waving from the carriage.
at
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/voices-heart-bleeds-prince-harry-101358205.html

Voices: My heart bleeds for Prince Harry at the coronation – doesn’t yours?,
Victoria Richards

Sat, 6 May 2023 at 2:48 pm BST
Never was there a more solitary figure than the King’s second son walking down the aisle alone at the coronation.

If your heart didn’t ache to see Prince Harry – yes, the “spare”, the black sheep, the outlier – taking those brave steps all by himself to sit alongside former friends and relatives after months of acrimony, then it must be made of stone.

Forget what he’s “done”: the tell-all, explosive memoir, the revealing Netflix documentary, the inner circle revelations that have sent shockwaves through the core of the royal family. All I saw was a self-conscious, grim-faced man, in pain, without the comfort of his wife to soften the blow. I can only imagine how tightly he must have been gritting his teeth to do it in the first place.



Does my heart bleed for him? It most certainly does not. It's called `just deserts'; this and the rest of his miserable life are entirely the result of how he has behaved and a fraction of what he deserves.

Did this woman's heart bleed for our queen and her husband when they were abused by this apology for a man and his tart of a wife? For the abuse they received at their hands?

I felt sickened by the sight of him.
I had to chuckle when I read this. I saw the chap in question sitting next to Andrew Lloyd Webber (a man who should not show his face to young children….scary! 🥺)

Social media users joke that Duchess of Sussex donned heavy disguise…

https://mol.im/a/12054489


snarkyatherbest said…
Hairy headed right back to the airport. no lunch for him!
Humor Me said…
@neutralobserver - loved your comments.
Great Britain as I remember from my visit, incorporates church and State as evidenced in HMTQ's funeral and now months later, the coronation of KCIII. I was struck then as the emblems of her reign were returned to the High altar of The Abbey, that everything was centric to Faith and God in the transfer of responsibilty to KCIII. Just breathtaking to observe. I had tears.

Yes, IMHO, Camilla looked a tad overwhelmed when the Archbishop held her crown over her head. Camilla also looked stunned when she walked out onto the Balcony as Queen.

A lovely day a bit wet, but a lovely day. I am so happy I was able to view this from across the Pond.
I see there are criticisms in the vox pop columns of some of the papers about Camilla wearing white, on the grounds that it's like a `wedding dress'.

Of course, it is a kind of wedding dress.

White was originally the colour of death - it's still a mourning colour with regard to physical death but in baptism and marriage it represents a spiritual `death', the end of one's previous life and the start of a new one. (in weddings it's the bride whose life changes , not the groom. At one time, Inland Revenue regarded a new wife as 2 entirely different people in one year! One got 2 lots pf personal allowance in one year!)

Have just checked some portraits of previous Queen's Coronation dresses -

Victoria wore pure white; Alexandra, Mary, Elizabeth and Elizabeth II all wore white with varying amounts of gold embroidery. Alexandra looked as if she was in yellow, she had so much. Camilla has been very circumspect when it comes to flashing the bling.
Girl with a Hat said…
SATURDAY, MAY 06, 2023
Blind Item #7
The reason I could tell you nothing about the flight over to England for the ginger haired one, is that despite some serious alternative reality where he supposedly flew commercial even though no one saw him, he actually flew private and didn't hang out in a lounge. Saving that carbon footprint and all, one flight at a time. It wasn't about security, it was about flexing. Neither of them care about saving the planet themselves, it is about what they want you to do

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2023/05/blind-item-7_065214631.html#disqus_thread
Maneki Neko said…
Harry was pictured leaving for Heathrow with a big grin on his face. In fact he was very smiley throughout without the claw. He was escorted by police outriders and possibly another so what is he bleating on about security? He didn't have to take the tube like the rest of us.
He was photographed with his medals when leaving. I wonder if he flew with them back to LA.
Sandie said…
Gossip from the unreliable CDAN:

I have no idea about the way over to England, but in the airport lounge when the ginger haired was returning, for whatever reason he just was using the speaker on his phone rather than AirPods, and everyone clearly heard the alliterate one telling him he was only allowed to have one drink on the flight home. He then turned off the speaker and put the phone to his ear.
-----

Which is completely contradicted by this blind, also from today (although a person using a private jet could also wait in a private lounge I suppose):

The reason I could tell you nothing about the flight over to England for the ginger haired one, is that despite some serious alternative reality where he supposedly flew commercial even though no one saw him, he actually flew private and didn't hang out in a lounge. Saving that carbon footprint and all, one flight at a time. It wasn't about security, it was about flexing. Neither of them care about saving the planet themselves, it is about what they want you to do.



Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/139ws5a/it_reeks_of_sponcon/

Looks like hapless was meeching for Dior at the coronation.
Sandie said…
Celia Walden column in the Telegraph:

"It took me a second to work out what Prince Harry reminded me of as he made his way down the aisle of Westminster Abbey today. Then it came to me: the royal renegade had the expression and gait of a teenager who had recently disgraced himself at a family occasion, necking a bottle of port and telling auntie Mabel she looked like a horse before throwing up on the sitting room carpet.

Like that teen, Harry had only agreed to come to the next big family do under duress. But he certainly wasn’t going to apologise for his actions, hence the slightly bowed head, the set jaw and the defiance in his demeanour. Had the 38-year-old expat been able to chew gum, he would have been masticating furiously all the way to his seat… in the third row, where he couldn’t have looked like more of a “spare” had a woman in a large, feathered hat not immediately seated herself in front, obliterating him from public view. Which Princess Anne promptly did."

....

https://archive.is/2023.05.06-172116/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/05/06/prince-harry-spare-coronation-charles-royal-family/
Ian's Girl said…
I thoroughly enjoyed every splendid minute of the ceremony and all the excitement before and after! The horses are always so magnificent! Did there seem to be more of them a little wound up than usual? Perhaps I was just worried about the rumor of rape alarms being used to cause trouble, and was on edge about it. Catherine and Charlotte are always beautiful, but I didn't care for the headpieces, and I thought Charlotte's look was veering into First Communion territory. And I still maintain Catherine needs to start lightening up her eyebrow and eyeshadow colors. She's beginning to look a wee bit hard, but perhaps it was just the lighting. Harry looked a fuzzy grump, but his suit did look as though it fit him properly for a change. Not sure what he can do about the fuzziness of his hair and beard, but do something he should. Major Johnny still outshone them all!
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

He was photographed at Heathrow.
snarkyatherbest said…
WBBM. he made his choices and the latest was to attend and merch for his supper. don’t feel sorry for him at all.

from what i can tell KCIII did not look over to him when he was processing and recessing down the aisle
Rebecca said…
In addition to the Celia Walden piece in the Telegraph, Camilla Long has graced us with her take on the sun-baked California turd that is Harry:

Meghan’s at home while Harry’s been relegated to the royalty back benches
The elegant option might have been to stay away. Instead it was Operation Blend into the Background for the duke


Just what was he thinking as he walked down the aisle?

Was it: which pillar would Meghan think it best to hide behind? Which bit of stone would “play” best with the early-morning breakfast television market in America? And what outfit would impress the late-night chat shows?

In the event he was — to use tabloid parlance — “uniform humiliated”: he wore nothing but an ordinary suit and some medals, along with one of those strange tie stars that look like a long-service award at a Swiss cuckoo clock factory.

Arriving in the Car of Shame — it contained the Duke of York as well as the Duke of Sussex — the King’s second son looked alone, tired and miserable. Almost naked in his thin black suit. As he walked down the aisle with the Yorkies, I just thought: “Oh Harry, what have you done?”

There have been 13th fairies at coronations before, of course. George IV’s wife, “Mad” Caroline of Brunswick, turned up at the ceremony in 1821, barged past the royal herbswoman and tried to crash the event.

She went back twice more — there was a fight about ticketing: so British — whereupon one of the footmen, a boxer, slammed the door in her face, while the crowd cried, “Shame, shame!” in support of her.

She died three weeks later.

Harry was invited, of course — but not really. What fretful PR contortions and double meanings that “invitation” must have been freighted with. We were told the traitor of Montecito was invited, by the Palace, but then he didn’t immediately say he was coming. He took ages to confirm he would attend, but getting him to commit himself to timings, seatings etc was, a Palace source suggested, like “communicating with Mars”.

Passive aggression and jockeying for position. It was classic Meghan.

She pulled the ultimate power move by not being there. It’s said she was staying home for “Archie’s birthday”, which no sane person would ever do. Who would choose toddler nightmare over a mad carnival of gold sticks and ceremonial handrails? Arguably, it’s difficult to tell the difference. I like to think she spent the ceremony talking into Harry’s earpiece, surrounded by publicists, agents, strategy dwarfs and general “mood” people, to micromanage his presence at the Great Golden Spoon Super Bowl.

“Don’t forget to do your candid reaction in the Windsor suite at Heathrow ...”
Rebecca said…
In the event, my heart rather went out to the prince. What a mess of hurt, stupidity, ego and silliness. The shame — the cool barbarity — of being made to walk alone down the aisle. Why did he come? Why didn’t he go for the more elegant, cool option and just take the ferry on to Le Havre, as the Duke and Duchess of Windsor did in 1953 to avoid Shirley Temple’s coronation?

Just after 10am he walked meekly up the middle of the church, last in his party, taking his place between the Queen’s cousin Princess Alexandra and Jack “Tequila” Brooksbank. In football terms this is like playing as striker for Manchester City and then suddenly finding yourself at Luton Town.

Also in the same row: Andrew Parker Bowles, of all people, the only divorced partner apparently admitted. Two rows in front: Camilla’s son, Tom Parker Bowles, and Ben Elliot, who in 2001 memorably dressed up as a Playboy bunny in fishnets and high heels for a society magazine. Imagine being deemed less important than them.

This isn’t the first time the Yorkies — a brace of chiffon-swathed partridges — have been drafted in to calm down Prince Harry. I now realise that, as daughters of Sarah, Duchess of York, who is now divorced from — sorry, “divorced to” — Prince Andrew and therefore not present, they actually have a ceremonial role on occasions like this as Royal Wranglers of Wayward Redheads.

They accompanied him up the aisle, settling behind a crowd of old, unknowable other royals dressed in mad Queen Mother cosplay. Brooksbank, Eugenie’s husband, was the only person he could speak to. A smart move: Brooksbank looks as if he speaks pure toff: “Hrrn ghh nrhrhrh”. Nothing he’ll say can be taken, polished up and used later in a Netflix episode or Spare 2.

This was Operation Blend into the Background. Sitting down behind Princess Anne, Harry had his face obscured by her hat feather for most of the ceremony.

Cameras carefully failed to pan across the left of the church in case we glimpsed any eye-rolling. Up ahead: the church, filled with other royals, heads of state and an extraordinary table at the back with a whole load of medieval cutlery laid out in front of it. It looked as though they were about to do a really expensive operation.

Part of me takes Harry’s point. This is ridiculous. It means nothing; it does nothing; it is a ceremony unlike any other in normal life. It bears the hallmarks of a wedding — Charles’s family seated on the right, Camilla’s on the left — but it isn’t. If it is a marriage, it’s not a marriage of them to each other; it’s a marriage to us.

It must have felt weird for Harry to watch as Camilla, his wicked stepmother, arrived to volleys of “Vivat Regina Camilla!” (a song sung in my house every day). To watch the woman who usurped his mother, who was never meant to be Queen, becoming just that, but not even wunting to, as she might say, must have been maddening. Camilla, for her part, looked terrified, especially when someone asked if she was ready to “receive the rod of equity and mercy”. Nurse!

“Straight in and out” is how Harry’s trip was described. Almost as soon as the ceremony was over, he dashed out of the front into a waiting car. Immediately we were told he would go straight to the airport — no balcony.

And just like that, he vanished: the royal that never was.
Rebecca said…
In the event, my heart rather went out to the prince. What a mess of hurt, stupidity, ego and silliness. The shame — the cool barbarity — of being made to walk alone down the aisle. Why did he come? Why didn’t he go for the more elegant, cool option and just take the ferry on to Le Havre, as the Duke and Duchess of Windsor did in 1953 to avoid Shirley Temple’s coronation?

Just after 10am he walked meekly up the middle of the church, last in his party, taking his place between the Queen’s cousin Princess Alexandra and Jack “Tequila” Brooksbank. In football terms this is like playing as striker for Manchester City and then suddenly finding yourself at Luton Town.

Also in the same row: Andrew Parker Bowles, of all people, the only divorced partner apparently admitted. Two rows in front: Camilla’s son, Tom Parker Bowles, and Ben Elliot, who in 2001 memorably dressed up as a Playboy bunny in fishnets and high heels for a society magazine. Imagine being deemed less important than them.

This isn’t the first time the Yorkies — a brace of chiffon-swathed partridges — have been drafted in to calm down Prince Harry. I now realise that, as daughters of Sarah, Duchess of York, who is now divorced from — sorry, “divorced to” — Prince Andrew and therefore not present, they actually have a ceremonial role on occasions like this as Royal Wranglers of Wayward Redheads.

They accompanied him up the aisle, settling behind a crowd of old, unknowable other royals dressed in mad Queen Mother cosplay. Brooksbank, Eugenie’s husband, was the only person he could speak to. A smart move: Brooksbank looks as if he speaks pure toff: “Hrrn ghh nrhrhrh”. Nothing he’ll say can be taken, polished up and used later in a Netflix episode or Spare 2.

This was Operation Blend into the Background. Sitting down behind Princess Anne, Harry had his face obscured by her hat feather for most of the ceremony.

Cameras carefully failed to pan across the left of the church in case we glimpsed any eye-rolling. Up ahead: the church, filled with other royals, heads of state and an extraordinary table at the back with a whole load of medieval cutlery laid out in front of it. It looked as though they were about to do a really expensive operation.

Part of me takes Harry’s point. This is ridiculous. It means nothing; it does nothing; it is a ceremony unlike any other in normal life. It bears the hallmarks of a wedding — Charles’s family seated on the right, Camilla’s on the left — but it isn’t. If it is a marriage, it’s not a marriage of them to each other; it’s a marriage to us.

It must have felt weird for Harry to watch as Camilla, his wicked stepmother, arrived to volleys of “Vivat Regina Camilla!” (a song sung in my house every day). To watch the woman who usurped his mother, who was never meant to be Queen, becoming just that, but not even wunting to, as she might say, must have been maddening. Camilla, for her part, looked terrified, especially when someone asked if she was ready to “receive the rod of equity and mercy”. Nurse!

“Straight in and out” is how Harry’s trip was described. Almost as soon as the ceremony was over, he dashed out of the front into a waiting car. Immediately we were told he would go straight to the airport — no balcony.

And just like that, he vanished: the royal that never was.
@WBBM,

I thought Camilla’s Coronation gown etc was most fitting for the occasion, and I loved it. 😃I think Bruce Oldfield designed it, the same designer as her wedding dress. I’d call the colour off or even antique white, it’s not a blue white which is cold and err virginal. Maggot’s second wedding dress was blue white. 🫤
xxxxx said…
I know there are Coronation parties and entertainment for Sunday. I am glad the main part is over, went well without a hitch. Hapless would not even stay for the Royal luncheon he was invited too. By this Hapless ultra-quickie visit, the Dastardlies are signalling that they have disengaged, that they will dwell alone in Montecito. Not have much to do with the BRF in the future. Except to exploit their titles in America for further profits and deal making. We shall see how much they succeed, with their new Hollywood talent agency.

Long live Charles, the New King. I salute Camilla, the New Queen. (from America)
Maneki Neko said…
Harry was pictured leaving for Heathrow with a big grin on his face. In fact he was very smiley throughout without the claw. He was escorted by police outriders and possibly another so what is he bleating on about security? He didn't have to take the tube like the rest of us.
He was photographed with his medals when leaving. I wonder if he flew with them back to LA.
Humor Me said…
I am sitting here waiting for the Kentucky Derby - which is an annual rite of Spring Sports, and the closest to what we have in the States in pagentry, not counting the 4 year election / inaugural of a President of the United States of America. Ordinarily, I have plucked my mint from this years crop, the simple syrup pre-made and bruised with said mint oil, and made a subline Mint Julep to enjoy as the minutes tick away.
Not this year - as I am still in awe over the pagentry and ritual of the Coronation of KCIII. Well done, Great Britain, well done.
Maneki Neko said…
Harry was pictured leaving for Heathrow with a big grin on his face. In fact he was very smiley throughout without the claw.  He was escorted by police outriders and possibly another so what is he bleating on about security? He didn't have to take the tube like the rest of us.
He was photographed with his medals when leaving. I wonder if he flew with them back to LA.
@Snarky, it was Celia Walden, in the Indie that felt sorry for him, not me!
I loved Camilla's coat & dress but sadly i didn't think that His Majesty's decision to wear uniform worked very well. I take his point about the breeches and hose being rather odd for these days but I kept thinking that, times, he looked as if he had been caught half dressed and the effect of his trouser leg (I'd say turn-ups if he'd had them) being visible during the actual crowning was less than fortunate.

I don't know quite what else he could have worn, apart from a cassock like clergy and choir - it doesn't matter what one wears under this medieval overcoat-trousers, shorts, skirt or kilt, depending on gender/nationality. Nobody is any the wiser.
The DM has referred to the Kyrie, as sung by Bryn Terfyl, as a `Welsh language song'.

Oh dear, though I suppose it could have been worse - they could have called it `a number'.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrie
Girl with a Hat said…
the Daily Express, regarding Archie's 4th birthday party:

Ahead of the King's Coronation, experts had shared concerns that Archie's star-studded party attendees could actually "overshadow" the ceremony.

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1767287/Archie-birthday-celebrity-guests-Meghan-Markle-Harry

they then go on to say that Ellen Degeneres, Katy Perry and Oprah were invited. LOL
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snarkyatherbest said…
katy perry is in londong at the coronation and singing for the concert. i guess M that’s a no i cannot attend
snarkyatherbest said…
Sorry WBBM. i’m gonna blame the tired from getting up early for the coronation.

i do take issue. I’ve seen a Bryn Terfel twice. once in marriage of figs to and once in concert. he was magnificent. no dissing Bryn. 😉
snarkyatherbest said…
so no archie pic no wreath or olive oil cake to congratulate the monarchs. no divorce so disappointed in M.
Snarky,

I apologise to Sir Bryn. I agree totally that he's a fine singer & actor - I had the privilege of seeing him in 1990 in Cosi Fan Tutti when he made his debut, on tour with WNO IIRC with the WNO, at Southampton. It was obvious then that he would become one of our finest singers.

I was mistaken in thinking he was facing the congregation. He was facing east, to the altar, hence not treating them as if they were an audience. Unfortunately, I have a `thing' about the difference between performing on the stage or in the concert hall, and in a church service. No offence to Welsh people but perhaps we English don't emote quite so much, at least in formal church services.
Maneki Neko said…
As I suspected, flying back to LA straight after the ceremony, Harry arrived in the evening. He is reported to have landed at 6.30 pm so he wouldn't have been home until at least an hour later (looking at the distance on the map). Who has a birthday party at that hour for a 4 year old? Even if them party started at 4 or 5 pm, Archie (and Lili) would have had to wait until 7.30/8 pm.

He was escorted to Heathrow by police outriders and possibly another car so why does he complain about his safety? He didn't have to take the tube like the rest of us.
He was photographed with his medals when leaving. I wonder if he boarded the plane with them on.
I'm astonished that we've heard nothing, not peep, cheep or squeak from Montecito. Crickets. Is she comatose?

I caught a TV Vox Pop interview done in Liverpool. One Scouser was moaning about cost of he do, especially the supposed £1- or £2m for the crown itself. Did he think they bought a new one every time...?

SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
I'm astonished that we've heard nothing, not peep, cheep or squeak from Montecito. Crickets. Is she comatose?


I believe that one of the Kardashian Kids had a 4th birthday party on the same day as 'Archie' or whoever he is. Poor kid. No doubt the lack of A-list adult guests for pictures will be blamed on him if he is a real child.

snarkyatherbest said…
Nutties who have access to the Wall Street Journal. there is a great article in the Book Review about Kinge George VI and his wife and anothe book The Windsors at war. this paragraph struck me:

about george and edward:

the relationship between the two brothers was toxic. they shared nothing in common except a slavish devotion to their wives who hated each other and dominated their respective husbands (much as the two young princes had been dominated by their ferociously intimidating mother).

the unimaginable pressure on george remained Edward, a perpetual irritant, a petty childish and money-grubbing narcissist who constantly wrote the king vitriolic letters. He complained as nauseam about how badly off we was, pestering him about money and Wallis’ royal status.

gosh and that was the king who became a spare
HappyDays said…
For as much as Archie’s birthday being the excuse why the viper stayed away from the coronation, I thought it was a bit odd that the only mention I’ve seen is a cake made with fruit from their garden and a low-key celebration.

Generally birthday parties for children in Archie’s age range include a few other children who are friends and playmates or little friends from school plus any cousins. It is s bit puzzling that for all of Meghan saying she wanted to stay in Cali to celebrate his birthday, there has not been any mention of children being invited to help celebrate the birthday, just a mention of inviting Meghan’s adult friends.

It makes me wonder if other than at preschool, if Archie has much interaction with other children in his age group such as playdates.

I know interacting with his cousins is not possible due to the distance, and it is not going to be likely in the future because his parents, in their efforts to burn bridges with the adults in both of their families, unwittingly also burned those bridges for their children. After all, it’s not as if the Sussex children will head to the UK to spend a few weeks each summer or visiting there at Christmas or other trips just for the sake of having a genuine connection with the family and institution that provides the titles the two Sussex children have. They could grow up with titles and no knowledge or attachment to the family, culture, and heritage associated with their father’s homeland.

Very odd and sad

The only way the two Sussex children might end up spending time in the UK is if their parents divorce and Harry gets custody and moves back to England with them.


HappyDays said…
snarkyatherbest said…
Nutties who have access to the Wall Street Journal. there is a great article in the Book Review about Kinge George VI and his wife and anothe book The Windsors at war. this paragraph struck me:


@snarkyatherbest:
Thanks for the WSJ tip about the book. I’ll check my local library to see if they have it yet.
SwampWoman said…
Good afternoon (here, anyway) everybody! I was up at 5 a.m. to watch the coronation. I had to change around until I found one that was not narrated. (Sorry, I found the narration to be quite off-putting on a solemn occasion. I am capable of making my own observations and I don't wish to be 'guided' by narrators.) That said, I had to hustle and change between cameras as a feed ended, so am going to find the BBC and watch it in the entirety later this evening.)

First, the electric blue on the grey horses was quite eye catching. There was no doubt that the King and Queen were passing through (if the luxury limousine coach didn't alert you, surely the gleaming gold Cinderella coach would)!

I have noted people talking about the nervousness/skittishness of the horses. Horses are herbivores that are subject to prey animals in the wild. All of those people waving flags are possible dangers to them. The riders will impart their nervousness about doing everything correctly to the horses through their bodies which will make the horses even more alert for dangers because if the human is nervous/on high alert, something big may be lurking to eat them both. At the first sign of danger, the horse's instinct is to RUN AWAY IMMEDIATELY.

Several years ago, I was at an Olympics qualification event (as a spectator, NOT a rider). The trials were done, the extremely well-trained athlete horses (and riders) had completed their events. The horses were standing around lazily in the sun occasionally twitching an ear with their riders on their backs, all looked completely relaxed. Then a bunch of bagpipers came in.

Daughter and I were up against the outside rails admiring the horses and riders, so elegant, and we IMMEDIATELY said "Oh, sh*%!" and backed away. As soon as the bagpipes started to wail, the horses were ALL trying to speed evolution along by growing wings and becoming airborne. When that failed, they resorted to bucking and rearing to evade their riders' commands to stay in place and crashed into the rails in mindless panic. Horses don't like sudden unexpected/unidentifiable noises, either.


Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12056717/Inside-Archies-fourth-birthday-Sussexes-11m-Californian-home.html

Here's her PR ...

* "Archie's fourth birthday party which featured Meghan's homemade lemon cake and celebrity guests"
* "(M) decided to have the celebrations at the couple's £11million home in Montecito, California, because 'she felt it would be inauthentic to do anything else'"
* "Archie had a 'private celebration' with a lemon cake which was baked by the Duchess of Sussex using fruit from their garden"
* "When asked if any of the party guests included celebrity neighbours such as Oprah Winfrey, a source said: 'Some of their friends are celebrities, so yes, that's likely. It will be a small, intimate gathering.'"

This is all so her! She made the tabloids, but no way can she compete with the coronation. IMO the narc injury will be huge and she will seek revenge, no matter how long it takes, but even then will never let go of the grudge. Nonetheless, she will use her association with the King to promote herself, ruthlessly.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12056711/King-Charles-sorrow-Prince-Harry-disappearing-act-Archie-birthday.html

"How 'genuinely disappointed' King raised poignant toast to grandson Archie 'wherever you are' at post-Coronation buffet - despite Prince having already left"

The above happened at a private family lunch. Many may not see it this way, but I see this clearly as a result of their spiteful extreme malignant narcissism. They are not special ... quite the contrary in fact ... but they keep their children from family and heritage out of irrational spite.
I gather that the `floral head-pieces' were inspired by, in turn those of ERII's attendants in 1953 and the equivalent from 1936.

The designer was helped in setting up her business by the Princes Trust.

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I don't recall the congregation saying the Creed, by comparison with 1953. Was it said?
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Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/13anw9g/harry_talking_to_anne_at_coronation/

Follow the link to check out this tweet ... he does come across as high as a kite, and at least completely out of step with the occasion and the people around him. Lucky for the BRF that a witch took him off to California! Most telling, for me, in this clip is the reaction of the people around him. It reminds me of when you are trapped in a situation with a loony and you adopt a stoic non-engagement stance, kind of like an ostrich lying down and closing its eyes.
Sandie said…
Couple of tarot readings that echo my guesses as to what is happening in Montecito, from this site:

https://mysteriouslytransparentwitch.tumblr.com/

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Energies de Meghan post-coronation, Sunday, May 7th 2023 :
Megain is very angry by her fall from grace, because of her treasons against the British Royal Family with Harry's book "The Spare" and Netflix show, with Woman Star, Treason and Grâce cards.

Meghan is mad and very deep into a narc rage with Health, Despotism and Intelligence and Destiny key cards of Belline's Oracle:

She doesn't know what to do to stay relevant for the media.
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(I don't agree that one can calculate a time for something to happen from the tarot, and do not think she will be stripped of any titles, but am posting this for those who may have a different view):

Deprivation of Meghan's titles, when? A reading with Astrological Belline's Oracle

Meghan will be stripped of her titles after an upcoming trial with the Trial card, perhaps against her half-sister Samantha Markle. This trial will make Meghan very mentally unstable, to the point of driving her into narcissistic rages (Water, Health and Despotism cards).

When? I look for the cards that stand out the most in the drawing, to deduce the periods of the zodiac from the planets. Here I have Mars twice, so Scorpio and Aries, and Jupiter twice, so Sagittarius and Pisces. But I also have the Sun which shares the sign of Aries by exaltation, while Mars is the ruler of this sign. Venus and the Moon are in control of Taurus. On the other hand Jupiter and Venus have the mastery over the sign of Pisces.

In this way, I can deduce that the period of the trial and when Meghan will have her titles taken away as punishment, will come from October 20th to November 2023 until May 20th 2024.
Humor Me said…
So, the Overseas Prince and his wife basically got what was one of their demands - an acknowledgement of their children and a toast to the birthday boy. And they were not there. The camera-mugging son bolted from the Abbey to Heathrow.
I get he wanted to see his son on his special day - I am not judging them.
It is the fact that 1) they were invited 2) third row in the Abbey was not bad at all consdiering where others were located 3) their children were recognized and 4) Archie was toasted. But the ILBW could not abide any booes or jeers directed to her.
They lost - KCIII was as magnanimous as HMTQ in offering an olive branch and recognizing the family. This....is all on the Sussex duo. How petty. How sad. What could have been a wonderful weekend and an opportunity for rappaproachment went "poof".
Hikari said…
@Happy

Despite the pictures Smeg keeps releasing as Archie—have you seen the latest? Arch with his back mostly to the camera plunking on a piano—I remain convinced that this curly headed tot is only playing Archie. I don’t know if he’s Gavin Gingas or not—wouldn’t Gavin’s classmates and teachers be wondering why he shows up in Internet pictures being called Archie with people who aren’t his
parents!

Here’s a wrinkle—if ILBW is so tight with Brynn Gingas, maybe she is the surrogate? Interesting how both women have boys of the identical age who are never pictured together. Maybe Gavin IS Archie, only, Gavin is his real name and “Archie” is a brand name. If BW had really wanted to make a splash, why not a People or Redbook spread of family photos of the Sussex family in advance of Archie’s storied birthday? His purported sister will turn 2 in less than a month so it could have been a 2- fer. Lovely pictures of the kids cavorting in the CA sunshine with the chickens and the dogs. A yard picnic. A tour of M’s magical fruit producing garden.

I’ll tell why not—because with the aid of cashing in on the Royal name, Harry’s wife has created an entire lifestyle,family and persona entirely bought with PR dollars. Her entire life is a fiction, so why should that stop at her children? There may be a baby or babies born via a surrogate but neither has M’s DNA and the couple does not have custody.

It’s going to be interesting to see now that the Coronation is over if CRIII entirely washes his hands of his overseas traitor and baggage. She’s gone silent since the release of the sainted ERII calling her an evil guttersnipe. Is she regrouping or is the Narc collapse underway? H’s trip to London yielded nothing for them but confirmation they are in Siberia. I really think the marriage is just about over. 5 years this month and what wear and tear it’s put everyone through. From beyond the grave ER may have just released the Kraken.
Sandie said…
https://twitter.com/UKRoyalTea

This American PR expert sometimes posts some interesting stuff ... I liked these comments from her:

"The Princess of Wales and Duchess of Edinburgh really heard “no tiaras” and immediately coordinated the most crown-like headpieces possible. Talk about giving the people what we want!"

What she forgot to mention is that the new 'headpieces', fitted perfectly with the nature theme of the invitation, and, as mentioned above, are reminiscent of the headpieces worn at Queen Elizabeth's coronation and wedding. But co-ordination was evident, and I am sure they consulted with the King's staff and had his approval.

Strikes me that TBW loves wearing 'meaningful' jewellery etc. that send a message, about her and her image and her PR. In the BRF, the messages they 'send' in their choice of jewellery is always about tradition, with deep roots in the past, and others.
SwampWoman said…
My next observation was how very much I admire and respect Princess Ann. What a formidable woman! I also think that The Feather very much merits an OBE for services rendered. The soldiers, the police, the horses, the carriages, the jubilant crowd, all in all a wonderful and joyous spectacle as only the British can pull off.

Does anybody know why Princess Eugenie turned and glared at Harry at the entrance to Westminster Abbey? He must have been crass or indulging in a fit of juvenile humor. I noted that he was smiling while everybody else was quite serious as befitted this historic event. I probably missed whatever the antecedent was and couldn't go back and check at the time.

I did note that he barely mouthed the words (occasionally) to God Save the King, something little Louis could do quite well. I didn't see any affirmation of the Kingship from him, either, but perhaps it was obscured by the feather.

I also witnessed Camilla's bracing herself when the crown was set on her head. I know that her arthritis is quite bad and that crown is heavy. Having to walk and go down steps with that thing on and not wanting to look down for fear of toppling it must have been nerve wracking, no, terrifying. Can you imagine people shaking their heads and talking about portents if that priceless crown had fallen off and rolled across the aisle?

Charles looks as though he really did assume the weight of the well-being of the inhabitants of his kingdom on his head and takes seriously his role as defender of the faiths. He's been doing good works quietly for years. He was so visibly moved by the entire ceremony. This is not a joke to him, as it apparently was to Harry and his California Demon.

You could see both their reliefs when the coronation was complete and they could relax, bless them!

I thought the music was quite lovely.

Rebecca quoted Camilla Long: This isn’t the first time the Yorkies — a brace of chiffon-swathed partridges — have been drafted in to calm down Prince Harry. I now realise that, as daughters of Sarah, Duchess of York, who is now divorced from — sorry, “divorced to” — Prince Andrew and therefore not present, they actually have a ceremonial role on occasions like this as Royal Wranglers of Wayward Redheads.

His former wranglers, the P&Ps of Wales, aren't having it. They're done.
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
I gather that the `floral head-pieces' were inspired by, in turn those of ERII's attendants in 1953 and the equivalent from 1936.

The designer was helped in setting up her business by the Princes Trust.


I've read online speculation (may have been Twitter, I'm not sure) that the design was based on the laurel wreath of Greece and later Rome. They said it could be serving a dual purpose of honoring both the Prince's Trust AND Prince Philip, Prince of Greece and Denmark. See: https://greekreporter.com/2022/09/28/wreaths-ancient-greek-origins/

(If I had known, I could have been out there making a wreathe from my bay laurel trees.)

I hope that is true. HMTLQ was certainly present in remembrance in the coronation but Prince Philip was an extremely remarkable man who should be remembered as such as well.
@SwampWoman
Harry said something stupid about Eugenie's pregnancy with a gesture with his hands, the gentleman that he is!

@Sandie "Small, intimate gathering" is meganspeak for NO famous guests you can brag about.

Harry's eyes were dead, so maybe he was stoned.
Maneki Neko said…
I find it very sad that Charles 'raised a glass to toast the fourth birthday of Prince Harry’s son Archie at Buckingham Palace yesterday in a moving to tribute to the grandson he has barely seen.'
. . .
After also toasting his other grandchildren, 'he made a point of also toasting ‘those that weren’t there’ and wished his other grandson a very happy birthday ‘wherever he was’.' (DM).

Harry had apparently been invited to the family lunch. I'm not sure at the age of 4 Archie would have been upset about his father being away for his birthday. H missed most of the day and could have stayed another day. I don't know if this was a FU to his father/the BRF..

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When Welby was settling the crown onto Camilla's head, I almost expected him to offer a mirror to show her a back view! Did he miss his true vocation?

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We had a street tea party this afternoon and I chatted with a young member of one of the the military bands on duty yesterday- it fascinating about how they trained to stand still for such a long time and only got one break in which to use the loo (a posh portaloo in the garden of Buck House) and to eat the banana with which they had been issued. I didn't find out though if they resorted to `pee pants' - dehydration ould have been a problem for the `brass' players. Well done, m'dear!
@Swampwoman (revised post)

Those leaves don't look very like laurel ones to me but I'd be hard pressed to say just what they are - laurel leaves are very flat. The 'jizz' ,as birdwatchers would say, isn't the same. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizz_%28birding%29)

I think that participant who came closest to `wearing laurels' was Penny Mordaunt, with that stunning embroidery on her dress and the amazing sword bearer. She was a convincing figure from Classical times, Pallas Athene perhaps?

`Traditionally, the Lord President wears a black-and-gold court dress. Mordaunt opted for a teal blue, ... she “felt it wasn’t right” to wear the customary black-and-gold court dress. She explained her desire for a more “modern” and “feminized” look befitting the occasion and her role'

from
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2023/05/07/who-designed-penny-mordaunts-coronation-dress-and-how-did-it-break-tradition/

The president's tunic is encrusted with gold embroidery but apparently they are `fern leaves' so I don't know.

Ms Mordaunt has been likened to a `warrior Queen or Princess' - it was an inspired outfit.

The Sword of State symbolises `the Sovereign's Royal Authority'. I really appreciated being able to see what was going on and hear what was said - it was closely connected with what happened at the Accession Council, a kind of ratification of the proceedings there?
Here's the Telegraph version of the toast:

The King toasted his absent grandson Prince Archie on his fourth birthday at a family celebration in Buckingham Palace after his Coronation, it has been claimed.

The newly-crowned monarch also raised a glass to Prince George, Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis who were at the Abbey and the post-ceremony festivities in the royal residence.

The monarch is said to have toasted "those that weren't there" and wished his other grandson, who he has barely seen, a very happy birthday "wherever he was,” the Daily Mail reported.

A source told the newspaper that it was “apparently a very sweet moment”.

DT via MSN
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/king-charles-raises-glass-to-prince-archie-the-grandson-he-has-barely-met/ar-AA1aRS7q

No reliable source, (Scobie?) although `...wherever he is...' does sound a bit like His Majesty but perhaps overheard and put into a new context by person unknown, or else is Charles being sceptical about who/where `Archie' might be (including in the Harkles imagination?)

Otherwise, it's too quiet...
Sandie said…
https://www.tmz.com/2023/05/07/meghan-markle-hike-without-harry-day-after-charles-coronation/

She called the paps to give her some publicity ... while on a hike with Markus and Heather. So, she surrounded herself with old friends ... and hapless was left at home. He has just got home from witnessing his father being crowned and wifey has no time for him!
The glare?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/video/news/prince-harry-arrives-solo-to-father-king-charles-coronation/vi-AA1aP95C

Another gem:
I'm sure I heard an ITV commentator said wtte `...on a day that sees both his father's Coronation day and his son's fourth birthday - , Tough!', in a `serves you bloody well right!' tone of voice.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.tmz.com/2023/05/07/meghan-markle-hike-without-harry-day-after-charles-coronation/?adid=social-tw

* takes a hike. Literally, not figuratively, to the chagrin of all.
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HappyDays said…
Are there reports from local street parties and/or the Windsor concert from our UK nutties?

The coronation was nothing less than bang on spectacular, so I hope Sunday’s continuation of the celebrations went well.
HappyDays said…
TBW just HAD to get some attention for herself today.

TMZ has a 10-image photo gallery of Harry’s wife taking a hike with Soho House buddy Markus Anderson and her pilates instructor friend Heather Dorak on Sunday 5/7/23.

The photos are by Backgrid, a Harry’s wife favorite paparazzi agency who “just happened” have a photog with a telephoto lens on the hiking trail to shoot a gallery of photos.

For a little background info, Backgrid shot the photos of the Sussexes in Santa Barbara earlier this year in February with Princess Eugenie and her husband Jack Brooksbank having dinner together.

Backgrid also shot photos in early March when the Sussexes arrived to dine at the San Vicente Bungalows private club in early March of this year shortly after it was announced they would no longer have use of Frogmore Cottage. Instead of using a private entrance the facility has for guests to avoid being seen, the Sussexes arrived at a front entrance where they could be sure to be photographed walking from their vehicle to the entrance.

https://amp.tmz.com/2023/05/07/meghan-markle-hike-without-harry-day-after-charles-coronation/
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/sage1411/status/1655405741950238720

Royal Expert Princess Consuela Banana-hammock
@sage1411
Some tea, going to be dropping more of it tonight. Take with a grain of salt as always.

Harry’s wife was getting fitted to go. Bet that is what the new face and ozempic is about. She wanted a revenge face and body at the coronation. 😂

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Apparently, there is an unfinished gown at Dior waiting for Sponge Bobbess.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/sage1411/status/1655406525815431169


So Harry’s wife had to pay for that announcement and they’re taking her on as a client. It is not typical agent work where they just take a percentage of what the actor makes. Looks like she had to pay for the representation, allegedly.

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the announcement that they are referring to is that the new PR agency is taking her on
the rumour is that she had to pay up front and that the agency doesn't expect that she will be getting any kind of work because she is poison in all corners of the entertainment industry
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/sage1411/status/1655406127226429441

So WME is rumored to be charge it the harkles to do their publicity. They don’t expect her to do anything or get anywhere, they just see a desperate fool who had money.

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apparently, WME are in trouble themselves.
Maneki Neko said…
I don't know why * bothered to get Backgrid to take pix of her hike. There are several pix of her with her jacket tied around her waist, walking with hands on hips accentuating her strange shape (1st photo of *). The black leggings tucked into thick socks and hiking boots do her no favour. On top of that, the weather seems to be around 20° so there was no need for thick socks and it seems the group was mainly walking on tarmac/concrete. The jewellery, Panama hat, scarf and aviator sunglasses screamed staged photos. Not sure what the point of it was but that was another waste of money.
Maneki Neko said…
Sorry, I posted about * on her hike (more like a stroll) and commented on the photos but didn't include a link. Here are the photos in the DM.

https://tinyurl.com/ynrrjrkm
Rebecca said…
From the Sun:

PRINCE Harry was moaning as he prepared to watch his father’s crowning glory, according to a lip reader.

He was apparently lamenting his life, muttering: “I’m fed up with the way they treat me.”

The Duke of Sussex made the comment to Jack Brooksbank — his cousin Princess Eugenie’s husband — as they took up their positions in the third row, our expert said.
Sandie said…
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1767437/prince-harry-meghan-markle-coronation-lip-reader

A lip reader picked up what was said between hapless and Jack, about TBW (Eugenie listening with much interest). What do you think it was about? The snippets are most intriguing.

@GWAH
Maybe she is paying WME to get her mega endorsement deals. Dior seems to be part of that. He conspicuously wore a Dior shirt for the first day's appearance for the court case. I can believe she was having a dress made by Dior (she would have got the email from the Palace giving detailed instructions of what to wear - formal day dress, hat optional but preferable) and as with her wedding, she would have thought nothing of snubbing the Brits and going French, as she did, for a very British occasion. My guesses as to what dress she was having made: white, a cape, embroidered with symbols, and some kind of statement headpiece (completely ignoring protocol for the day).
Sandie said…
I watched the whole ceremony yesterday (the Sky coverage). The focus was almost completely on the King, and the Queen. (The photographs in the media are a lot about the royal family, but the TV footage only showed them briefly in the context of how long the ceremony was.) William actually took part in two parts of the ceremony, before and after the crowning .. returning to his seat in between. During the first part, he leaned forward and seemed to whisper something to his father, who smiled. The media haven't picked up on that moment, but focused on the part after the crowning, as did lip readers. Him and his family were also the only royals that processed into the Abbey with the King and Queen.

Somehow, I don't think TBW would have minded not being the focus of that long ceremony, as long as she got major coverage in the media, which she probably would have done. IMO, as a narc, there are two major reasons why she pulled out: none of her demands were met and she could not back down as husband did; she has no interest in being part of something where she is not in control and not the centre of attention. But there seems to be another, very vindictive 'irrational' reason ... Charles saying 'wherever he is' about Archie reminds me of her denying her father the ability to meet his grandchildren. I think Charles would have liked to see those two children on coronation day and have photographs taken with them.
NeutralObserver said…
Have to give a shout out to Lionel Richie. No one hear All Night Long without feeling more cheerful. His performance at the Coronation Concert was amazing, especially when you consider that the guy is 73. He was just so happy to be here. That was apparent throughout his entire visit. He was dressed beautifully & said all the right things. Hope that the UK can forgive him for being American. LOL.
Sandie said…
@Rebecca
That Sun article about the lip reader is most interesting. It seems that hapless has a soulmate in Jack, the latter finding access to a life of privilege by marrying a granddaughter of the late queen, yet full of backstabbing conplaints. Perhaps I am beng unkind, but Jack probably would still be a barman if he hadn't married Eugenie. Perhaps he is just very empathetic. Tin foil hat: I have seen a few photos of coronation weekend with Jack not looking happy with royals, so maybe there is something goung on behind the scenes and he does indeed have a soulmate in hapless.

Do the dastardly duo ever stop complaing and whining in their endless victimhood?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/22283657/lip-reader-harry-moaning-jack-brooksbank-chat/

Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/13beyoi/meghan_call_me_duchess_now_this_breakingnews/

Neil Sean says the “former cable tv actress” insisted upon being referred to as a “global icon” in a recent press release. Apparently, “global icon” is to be a key part of her branding moving forward.
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Interesting!

So, while royalty shine at a fabulous coronation, she does a predictable pap walk!
snarkyatherbest said…
Not surprise if WME is requiring cash payments up front. a percentage of their deals would be worth little. and since it was rumored they were very late in payment to SS everyone in the industry will know that and require cash up front. plus notice they also signed Archwell. that may be where some of the money is coming from.

so interesting we have no party pic just a suggestion of a lemon cake and nothing else. and of course couldn’t be bothered to take the kid on a hike. don’t want him to get all the focus (also he may have been on an outing with his family 😉). question. was the hike saturday or sunday and did no one want to run it til sunday?
Sandie said…
Something interesting from this tarot reader (all is not what it seems in this pap walk?):

"impossible to read, meghan is just in another world, she is in a real narc rage, i know i am repeating myself but impossible for me to read charles, william and catherine today, meghan's energy is everywhere, I had to ask @lenormand-cards-and-tarot to see if she picked up anything, I was starting to doubt my readings because there was no sense, she confirmed to me that she was having a lot of difficulty, meghan and harry are just… …

the queen's funeral had shown that it was over for them but the coronation ended everything (knowing that tonight there will be a speech from william to his father)

really tell yourself that you are lucky not to know how to read energies because they are just crazy"

And ...

"I can't read tarot cards on Meghan or William or Charles or Catherine. Meghan's energy is everywhere and she is very angry even though her latest photo shows otherwise. I will wait for this weekend"

https://mysteriouslytransparentwitch.tumblr.com/
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In that pap walk, what does TBW have under her vest and around her waist? It looks boxy and fairly bulky. You can see the photos here:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12058965/Meghan-Markle-rocks-Princess-Dis-17k-Cartier-watch-pal-Abigail-Spencers-495-necklace.html

Her pap walk is disappearing in the coverage of the royals participating in The Big Help, especially of Louis in what some are saying is his first official royal engagement.
Hikari said…
Neutral,

Have to give a shout out to Lionel Richie. No one hear All Night Long without feeling more cheerful. His performance at the Coronation Concert was amazing, especially when you consider that the guy is 73. He was just so happy to be here. That was apparent throughout his entire visit. He was dressed beautifully & said all the right things. Hope that the UK can forgive him for being American. LOL.

I watched an extended interview with Lionel on a UK programme where he spoke warmly of his friendship with Charles which has carried on for decades and began through Ritchie's contributions to the Prince's Trust. King Charles is on close terms with a lot of diverse and interesting people all over the world and he doesn't even limit himself to the UK and the Commonwealth. The selection of Mr. Ritchie to perform at the Coronation concert is just another demonstration that the RF is not racist. There were many many people of color involved in the Coronation celebrations as audience and with significant roles, all of them personally invited by the monarch. So the Sussexes can stuff it.

@Sandie

Tin foil hat: I have seen a few photos of coronation weekend with Jack not looking happy with royals, so maybe there is something goung on behind the scenes and he does indeed have a soulmate in hapless.

It looked like Jack was being cordial to the black ginger sheep as they walked into the Abbey; further than that I have not seen as far as the Brooksbanks interacting with Harold. Jack was visibly nonplussed with H on other occasions. If he looked unhappy the other day, it was a highly stressful event for everyone. The biggest Royal occasion yet, even though Jack has had experience of a televised wedding and balcony appearances before. The Coronation was on a whole other level. And, based on the size of Eugenie, she's due very soon and might not be the easiest to live with right now. I don't automatically assume any more that the B's are allies of the Sussexes, or their their moods are necessarily tied to what Harold and his wife are doing. Eugenie may be a somewhat fringe Royal but I'm sure she's eager to hang onto the status she's got and now that the Suxxits have disgraced themselves so badly, to be seen as aligned with them can only be bad for E. and J. I'm sure they have money struggles too and grievances over the disparity of their lot vs. the Waleses. It seems to be a chronic malady among spares and spares' children.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

I too wondered what was under her vest. I mentioned that same photo because she really doesn't look good in it. I think it's the waistband of her high waisted leggings that you can see under her vest. She looks square and without a waist. The whole outfit put together is just ridiculous. Let's not forget the jewellery, a must for a hike.
SwampWoman said…
Rebecca said...
From the Sun:

PRINCE Harry was moaning as he prepared to watch his father’s crowning glory, according to a lip reader.

He was apparently lamenting his life, muttering: “I’m fed up with the way they treat me.”

The Duke of Sussex made the comment to Jack Brooksbank — his cousin Princess Eugenie’s husband — as they took up their positions in the third row, our expert said.


ROFL. Yeah, this had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with his and his creepy ILBW's actions and false accusations and veiled attacks in media by people that she paid. This is what happens when you are a traitorous little weasel making a living by betraying the family. He should be happy that he was allowed to darken the doorway and was invited to the family dinner.

Poor Jack must have had intensive de-escalation training! That must have been very stressful for him as well. Hopefully none of the family will have to worry ever again about babysitting a tantrum-prone Harry in public.
snarkyatherbest said…
so evidently the new yorker had a piece written by H’s official ghost writer and half of it was about working on the Spare. my take someone was very defensive on the fact check charges, M was so lovely while he was working in the coach house bringing him treats and food (with archie of course). frustrated that leaks were made to the press on content (j it was the sweet wife). weird price to put out trying to spin the whole thing and how kinds the harkles are. frankly if he focuses on all of his ghost writing (he does for a bit about andre agassi) or just let it all go he would recover but this article does not resurrect his reputation in my opinion. is he too represented by WME?
Hikari said…
@Sandie

In that pap walk, what does TBW have under her vest and around her waist? It looks boxy and fairly bulky.

That pathetic "hike" is right up there with the post-Megxit "hike" in Canada with the strap-on doll. She's trotted out the white Panama hat again, I see. Do we think this is the same mangy hat she's been dragging around since her yachting days? It looks slightly different so it must be a merching item, along with the sunglasses. The rest of her non-descript black basics aren't worth mentioning. Girlfriend really loves a boring black legging, doesn't she, and the boots looked very similar to the ones she used in the previous Canada debacle. Far from being a bucolic hike in the woods, Merchle and her two compatriots were walking along a random asphalt bit of street which could be Montecito or absolutely anywhere at all. Yoga teacher Heather, last seen meeting Merchle on Vancouver Island, and formerly Toronto-based Markus (who I struggled to recognize sans the saturnine facial hair) sure get around. Guess their Beelzebub summons them whenever she needs a pap fix and they must drop what they are doing and obey the summons.

The lumpy rectangular bulge under her t-shirt is another FAIL if it's meant to get tongues wagging about a "pregnancy". It looks like the outline of some kind of belt-like object . . whether for money, recording equipment or weight-loss is anyone's guess. It does not look like a moonbump. Could it be some kind of medicine delivery system? Maybe it's an insulin monitor or similar. If she's been using Ozempic for rapid weight loss, maybe she's got to monitor her blood sugar levels? Or maybe she's really a diabetic. She could've eliminated speculation with the choice of a different top but it seems she removed her jacket and tied it around her waist expressly to focus all attention on her midsection.

As ever, I marvel that this woman runs through astronomical sums of money to market herself as a "Global Icon" and this is the best she can come up with for a result. Some lumpy black workout clothes that look like they were purchased at Walmart, paired with accessories that no doubt cost a packet . . but as an attention-seeking maneuver, it's just beyond pitiful. She could have attended the Coronation in couture but this is her answer for her fabulous post-Royal life--a lemon cake for Invisible Archie and trailing around a suburban street with her two rent-a-pals. She's obviously Winning! just like Charlie Sheen.
SwampWoman said…
Maneki Neko said...
@Sandie

I too wondered what was under her vest. I mentioned that same photo because she really doesn't look good in it. I think it's the waistband of her high waisted leggings that you can see under her vest. She looks square and without a waist. The whole outfit put together is just ridiculous. Let's not forget the jewellery, a must for a hike.


It is a miniature square baby bump, like the square pillow bump at the old folks' home when she was expecting Archie. Must be another boy!
snarkyatherbest said…
Hikari to be fair the panama hat is in. the Royal Collection just introduced a new one. what a sweet nod to the yacht girl😉
Maneki Neko said…
BP has released official Coronation portraits of Charles and Camilla.
In the family photo are even the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester and Princess Alexandra, the Hon. Lady Ogilvy. Absent are Andrew and the gruesome twosome. It's a beautiful photo. Maybe * will be sick with envy when she realises she could have been in the group photo had she behaves differently.

https://tinyurl.com/5a9d4xwb

Left to right: The Duke of Kent, the Duchess of Gloucester, the Duke of Gloucester, Vice Admiral Sir Tim Laurence, the Princess Royal, King Charles III, Queen Camilla, the Prince of Wales, the Princess of Wales, the Duchess of Edinburgh, Princess Alexandra, the Hon. Lady Ogilvy, the Duke of Edinburgh
I’ve now watched the coronation coverage available on Brit Box and thoroughly enjoyed every minute. The British do pomp and ceremony like no one else - Bravo!

The King was marvelous, as was Camilla, and every detail of this historic coronation was a true reflection of the man CRIII is today.

Now, what did Hairless Harry project? He showed everyone exactly who and what he is today - it wasn’t pretty. There is nothing more unattractive than a 38 year old prat. The man-child swaggered into Westminster Abbey like he was welcome. He tried to use Nutmeg’s old trick of talking/engaging with people when no one was paying any attention to him. At all. He was totally gray rocked. And no Harry, you do not have and cannot convince anyone watching that you have some big swinging todger - yuk. He is such a schlump.

Coronation planners and Princess Anne for the win!!! I hope SMM sub comes up with a Princess Anne hat with a glorious red feather somewhere - a flare or voting mechanism?

Every family member seated in the front row looked magnificent - really enjoyed the head pieces worn by Catherine, Charlotte and Sophie. However, I thought Zara Tindall nailed it with her dress, hat and jewelry. Gorgeous!!!!!
I’ve now watched the coronation coverage available on Brit Box and thoroughly enjoyed every minute. The British do pomp and ceremony like no one else - Bravo!

The King was marvelous, as was Camilla, and every detail of this historic coronation was a true reflection of the man CRIII is today.

Now, what did Hairless Harry project? He showed everyone exactly who and what he is today - it wasn’t pretty. There is nothing more unattractive than a 38 year old prat. The man-child swaggered into Westminster Abbey like he was welcome. He tried to use Nutmeg’s old trick of talking/engaging with people when no one was paying any attention to him. At all. He was totally gray rocked. And no Harry, you do not have and cannot convince anyone watching that you have some big swinging todger - yuk. He is such a schlump.

Coronation planners and Princess Anne for the win!!! I hope SMM sub comes up with a Princess Anne hat with a glorious red feather somewhere - a flare or voting mechanism?

Every family member seated in the front row looked magnificent - really enjoyed the head pieces worn by Catherine, Charlotte and Sophie. However, I thought Zara Tindall nailed it with her dress, hat and jewelry. Gorgeous!!!!!
The Royal UK tells us that the duke and duchess of Sussex continue to honour their duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and their patronages and that Frogmore Cottage remains their family home.

How long will this mis/disinformation continue now that there is a king instead of a queen?

Strange that baron Kilkeel doesn't insist that corrections should be made.
Global icon, hah! Meganot’s global icon is like the famous “no ghosts” logo, only I picture her as a mean-mugging viper with the red crossbar over her dry, scaly forked tongue self. HMTLQ is definitely throwing well deserved shade from the grave - evil is as evil does.
Sandie said…
I have not yet read the article by the ghostwriter, but I find this in the article by Richard Eden rather interesting:
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'You want the world to know that you did a good job, that you were smart. But, strange as it may seem, memoir isn't about you.

'It's not even the story of your life. It's a story carved from your life, a particular series of events chosen because they have the greatest resonance for the widest range of people, and at this point in the story those people don't need to know anything more than that your captors said a cruel thing about your mom.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12060033/I-exasperated-Prince-Harrys-Spare-ghostwriter-J-R-Moehringer-tells-tensions-them.html

Was the memoir a PR exercise, and is that the brief the ghostwriter was given?

The article in full:

https://archive.is/2023.05.08-152744/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/05/15/j-r-moehringer-ghostwriter-prince-harry-memoir-spare

Actually, I did read a lot of Spare and there were blatant factual errors, that could have easily been rectified if someone had checked.
Hikari said…
The Royal UK tells us that the duke and duchess of Sussex continue to honour their duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and their patronages and that Frogmore Cottage remains their family home.

"Family home" like "impactful" and "Olive Oil cake" is one of Meganuts favorite phrases.

I suppose technically HazNowt has paid the rent through this month, but King Charles has declined to renew the annual lease instituted after Megxit, expiring as of May 31st. Hawwy will be in for a shock if he tries to drop by there on a future visit to the 'family home'.

@Sandie,

The article by Richard Eden and the parts you quote were said by Mole’s ghostwriter J. R. Moehringer. Mole must’ve been an absolute nightmare to work with. Goodness knows what JR thought of him.

You don’t seriously think Mole’s book was based on facts? 🫣😳You question whether it was a PR exercise? 😳🥺 It was his version of the truth he wasn’t interested in telling the truth (Lady C says Goebbels would’ve been proud of Maggot and Mole and their blatant propaganda) that was the whole point of the book; so of course it was a PR exercise that failed on every level! 🥸
HappyDays said…
In addition to calling Backgrid to set up a photo op of herself with Heather and Markus as props in the parking lot and on the trail, I guess Meghan had to work her wittle fingers to the bone thus past weekend. Poor dear.

From today’s Crazy Days And Nights blind items:

MONDAY, MAY 08, 2023

Blind Item #13
The alliterate one supposedly recorded a podcast episode for Mother's Day inviting all kinds of moms, but complained the whole time about how hard it is for her and that she knows the struggle of working moms because she is one. Apparently at some point she tried to compare herself to single moms who work, but that just went too far.
HappyDays said…
In addition to calling Backgrid to set up a photo op of herself with Heather and Markus as props in the parking lot and on the trail, I guess Meghan had to work her wittle fingers to the bone thus past weekend. Poor dear.

From today’s Crazy Days And Nights blind items:

MONDAY, MAY 08, 2023

Blind Item #13
The alliterate one supposedly recorded a podcast episode for Mother's Day inviting all kinds of moms, but complained the whole time about how hard it is for her and that she knows the struggle of working moms because she is one. Apparently at some point she tried to compare herself to single moms who work, but that just went too far.
Maneki Neko said…
@SwampWoman, @Sandie

Wonder no more! There's an article in the DM.

'Is that a tummy flattener?' Meghan Markle baffles fans after sporting a mysterious accessory UNDER her shirt during LA hike - as social media speculates it's a weight loss aid or even a HERNIA belt

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12059407/Meghan-Markle-fans-baffled-strange-belt-hike-speculate-weight-loss-aid.html
snarkyatherbest said…
There is one account on twitter (isource - so who knows) claims oprah brokered a $15MM deal for M to appear on a cable news show as a color commentator for the coronation. Her advisors convinced her not to do it. Well that sounds lame, she would have done it unless that became part of marital assets and she had to split then with Harry when she split. I heard other sources speculate she may have been paid to not appear anywhere on the day of the coronation hence why we saw something on sunday. not sure that was the case either. the $15MM is interesting - could she be putting out negotiations again in the press - i can garner $15MM but if you want me to shut up in the divorce pay me more than that? my money is on that.
Ralph L said…
Had the 38-year-old expat been able to chew gum

But he couldn't do that and walk at the same time!

I haven't heard why there wasn't carpet in the nave aisle. I'm glad they left the repaired ancient mosaic in "the theater" exposed, but the nave floor looked shabby. Looks like they could have built the outdoor canopy to cantilever over the carriages (and wide enough for outside carpet). I think the low level of magnificence and ermine was a mistake. If the new House of Lords doesn't want to play, they still could have flanked the King with cavalry officers as Elizabeth was. If you don't go whole hog, why bother at all?
Rebecca said…
Does anyone think the J.D. Moehringer piece in the New Yorker was timed to coincide with the coronation? To help counter the negative press around the Sussexes? Nothing happens by chance with these people.
snarkyatherbest said…
Rebecca. could the ghostwriter be repoed by WME too?
NeutralObserver said…
@Hikari, People have complained about Lionel Richie's voice; they should be impressed that he actually sang live. Doctors told him a few years ago that he might have to stop singing altogether, but he was helped by holistic medicine, an interest he shares with Charles. Lionel is 73, a much younger Beyonce lip-synched her performance at Obama's inauguration. I was just stunned to see him energetically slinking all over the stage in skin-tight leather pants! A huge live audience really seems to make some performers come alive. Of course Charles isn't racist, never has been. The RF is too high status to be bothered about race. Charles just doesn't want the Commonwealth to disintegrate on his watch.

@Hikari, @Sandie, @Snarkyathebest, ILBW has been over doing the ozempic. She looks skeletal. Didn't look too closely at her pap shots, but I thought the bulky mass around her waist was the coat she had tied around it. Don't know if she's Megnant, & don't care.

I wondered if J.R. Moehringer was talking about his book at WME's behest as well. Is it part of a strategy to make the Todgers seem nicer? He seems both defensive about the book & a wee bit star struck by royalty, even if he called Todger 'dude.' I hope he will protect his career & not say anything further. Ghostwriting seems to be his primary source of income, & he's a competent writer.

I still think ILBW wrote all the parts of the book which relate to her, & especially to her relationship with the Waleses. Covid necessitated only a few in person visits by Moehringer to Montecito; it would have been very easy for her to dictate pages for Todger to give to him. The excerpts I read in news media seemed to reveal three separate voices, the professional writer's, Todger's & ILBW's.

WME is an agency that's powerful, well connected & reputedly very shrewd. If they can't get her some lucrative deals, she's hopeless.

@Humor Me, Thanks for the compliment!
Rebecca said…
I hope it is OK to post this comment from an article in The Telegraph about Harry’s pit stop at Buckingham Palace after the coronation. I thought our Nutty Poet Laureate@Magatha Mistywould appreciate it:

Henry Smith
5 HRS AGO
A grand little lad was young Arry,
All dressed in his best; quite a swell
With a wife that he just couldn’t 'andle,
The finest that Woolworth's could sell.
They didn't think much of our Island
Full of racists and bigots and smelly
So, seeking for further amusement,
They went on American telly
There were one great big Lion called the Monarch
His nose were all covered with scars -
He lay in a somnolent posture,
With the side of his face on the bars.
Now Arry had heard about Lions,
How they was ferocious and wild -
To see Monarch lying so peaceful,
Well, it didn't seem right to the child.
You could see the Lion didn't like Netflix
For giving a kind of a roll,
He pulled Arry inside the cage with 'im,
And swallowed the little lad 'ole.
Sandie said…
@RR
Sorry, I forgot to say in my post that Richard Eden was quoting the ghostwriter. It just seems an odd thing for a ghostwriter to have said about a memoir. What comes across to me is that both the ghostwriter and the subject of the memoir don't seem to realize is that the memoir (and this piece written by the ghostwriter) expose what a problematic and 'bad egg' the prince is, and that the ghostwriter fell under the spell of the love bombing. The couple exposed themselves ... an example: she told a British court that she did not keep any of the messages on her phone and went further to say the 'Palace' automatically deleted them. In the memoir, he verbatim quotes messages between Catherine and his wife. He simply confirmed that she got away with perjury and supplied proof of that.

@Rebecca ... Yes. The couple are doing their own PR and it shows! The paperback of the memoir is coming out soon if I am not mistaken, so they are trying to drum up major sales, but TBW is hellbent on trying to overshadow and harm the royal family so the timing is not an amazing coincidence, in my opinion. The piece is very flattering to her ... a devoted mom, a kind and thoughtful friend.

I noticed in the pap photos that there is obvious muscle definition in her arms, so I think she is finally using that home gym. That she may be using weight loss aids as well would not surprise me.

PS He was conducting a Zoom call with the ghostwriter at 2 am? Seems a bit inconsiderate. They may be in different time zones, and maybe the ghostwriter works best after midnight?!
@Ralph
Cosmati pavement: It's another case of the Brits valuing the old and battered against the shiny and new.

It in the Abbey used to be covered by a carpet to protect it and it was only ever uncovered for Coronations, it is so significant (dates from 13thC), only one north of the Alps.

It is highly symbolic, the Coronation Chair is always placed dead centre, on the roundel.

I gather it's now kept uncovered and so staff visitors can walk on it as ling as they take their shoes off. I noticed vergers in their stockinged feet and I wondered if the King's shoes were actually slippers?

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re carpet: In 1953, the Queen had no problem in moving from West Door to the Coronation Theatre; coming back though, she had great difficulty moving off because her dress was so stiff and heavy she was stuck because she was trying to walking against the carpet pile. She needed help to get free.

If lack of carpet is good enough for the King, it also stops * whinging about not getting the red carpet she wanted at Windsor when she was entitled only to the blue one. So she cut off her nose to spite her face. Allegedly.
Fifi LaRue said…
QE11 calling Mrs. Todger EVIL is priceless! Mrs. Todger is powerless to fight that dam*ing word, coming from the grave of practically a saint. The Palace is letting Mrs. Todger know that they have receipts, LOTS of receipts. The Palace cut her off before she could do anything. Teehee!

IMO the Palace isn’t paying Mrs. Todger one penny. The Todgers are adrift, fighting shadows.
Magatha Mistie said…

Rambling Hoes

Abroad bean
missed out from the start
Made her entree
Coronation chicken tart
Bowlegged, rickety
cheap chippendale chair
Aitch-hikers guide to
round peg in a square…

Magatha Mistie said…

I thoroughly enjoyed
the Coronation.
Watched BBC,
as did my mum in the UK,
we chatted on the phone
whilst watching simultaneously.
We both cried when the Crown
was finally placed on Charles head.

God Save the King!


Magatha Mistie said…

@Rebecca
Thank you, I loved it.

Scarred, somnolent lion
held fast by gilded bars
Velvet paw with one poke
delivered last stroke
‘arry ended up on his arse…

Magatha Mistie said…
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aRebecca,

Thanks so much for relaying the `Lion and Albert' parody. Absolutely brilliant, isn't it? The original was a great favourite of mine as a child - we had it on a 78rpm.

If anybody doesn't know this gem, here's a link to the original recording. I'm not sure about the accent - I'd always assumed it was from west of the Pennines (like Blackpool, or Runcorn in another number) but the `Ilkley Moor' quotation indicated Yorks - Holloway was a Londoner, so perhaps it's generalised accent from Oop North?

@Magatha
Which accent do you think it is?

Love `Coronation Chicken Tart'!
Magatha Mistie said…

The Dickflick Papers

Bit late now for Moehringer
to whinge
He took the dosh
to promote ginger cringe
Moaning about an untold tale
Wasn’t backwards
coming forthwith
todgers frozen tail
Maybe the threat of the
bargain bin
Opened his eyes to
Rumpledforeskin…

snarkyatherbest said…
sandie. that todger doesn’t understand time zone differences doesn’t surprise me. or perhaps after a bender (or in the middle of one) he made the call 😉

oooh forgot the paperback is coming out. of course the ghost writer is now talking. it’s all PR.
NeutralObserver said…
WME apparently doesn't have the reach it once did, (neither do a lot of entertainment related companies). Is signing ILBW a sign of weakness? The Emanuels have pretty pronounced survival skills, & don't mind being hated, so ILBW seems an Ari Emanuel soul mate, at least professionally. H'wood is crazier & does more churning than a sleazy stock broker, so it's hard to count WME out. I feel the ILBW is like the cockroach, she will survive us all. I suppose mankind needs a few of her type in the Darwinian scheme of things.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Thanks again for the latest offering. Abroad bean!😂 I don't know how you do it but it's good to get some light relief from the duo's constant nonsense.

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Sandie said…
Pap walk: her socks seem to be unusually bulky, as if she has something around her ankles, like weight belts. Round her waist looks like a waist/belt bag (not sure what Americans call it). I still have one I use for shorter hikes when I don't want to carry a backpack. Although there are plenty of calorie-burning/muscle defining apparatus to wrap around your waist, the shape does not match any of those. I think she has her father's genetic make up and struggles to stay slim. It was a combination of calorie-burning walk and pap walk.
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Why is there a story out there that hapless returned to BP before heading off to the airport? I have not identified the source (is it The Times and does that make the original source Montecito?) but am amazed that media repeated this nonsense. Not only did he not have time to do so, but when he arrived at Heathrow he had obviously come straight from the coronation ceremony.
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When is Mother's Day in America? She supposedly recorded a special episode of Archetypes for the day.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/13c4ryu/its_hard_to_be_a_mother_of_2_while_in_a_16/
Observant One said…
Hey Nutties! I’ve been sidelined with foot surgery. Regaining some of my mobility is allowing me time to catch up with your banter.

My thoughts on the glorious Coronation weekend:

1.) Camilla - I think she may have been sidelined on Friday, with a flare-up with her longstanding back pain condition. The palace spokespeople stated that she had not planned to attend the reception with the heads of state, but that didn’t seem like her. On Saturday, she moved like someone who was guarding their pain. In addition, she seemed frightened by the weight of the crown and moved to the back of the throne and braced herself. Even during the concert, she didn’t seem to be herself. I empathized with her and recognized the signs of pain and the dulling effects of pain medication.
2.) The Ceremony - It was absolute perfection, from start to finish. I was especially impressed with the King’s ability to seemingly take it all in, Major Johnny’s prominent role, MP Penny Mourdant’s entire countenance throughout (like an Greek goddess) and Prince William’s pledge of fealty. His pledge spoke volumes. Princess Anne’s tassel made me giggle. The wobbling in front of the barely recognizable person behind it symbolized the genius planning that went into the preparations.
3.) Attire - I loved the unexpected headdresses of embellished fabric leaves, in lieu of tiaras. I appreciated that the Coronation jewels were the focus and that too much display of wealth could have sent the wrong message. The RVO robes were so beautiful and added to the swashbuckling pageantry. The Wales family were clearly (but with subtlety) set apart as the future of the Monarchy.
4.) The concert was brilliant, especially the light show, those amazing drones, Steve Winwood’s Higher Love and Hugh Bonneville as the emcee. I also loved Lionel Ritchie’s joy and excitement for his old friend, the King.
5.) The pathetic pap photos from California clearly conveyed Madam’s seething anger. I loved THAT, too.
Hikari said…
Magatha,

I thoroughly enjoyed
the Coronation.
Watched BBC,
as did my mum in the UK,
we chatted on the phone
whilst watching simultaneously.
We both cried when the Crown
was finally placed on Charles head.


Owing to a 5-hour time difference and having to work on Saturday last (demands of the public service . . at least half my evenings and Saturdays are spoken for), I had to watch the replay of the service. I have not experienced the full presentation including the carriage ride to and from the Abbey or the balcony appearance, so I think what I'm going to do is pretend that this coming Saturday is Coronation Day all over again and I will prepare myself a little lovely tea spread and watch the whole thing at my leisure on a screen that's bigger than my phone, which is at present the only way I get Wi-Fi at home. Having gotten up at the bum crack of dawn my time to see all the Royal weddings, I was a bit disappointed to have to miss the live coverage, but I have been very impressed with what the BBC put up. I have seen a couple other networks' coverage of William's oath from a different angle. I keep watching that bit over and over (along with Zadok the Priest and the arrival of the screens). Charles's visible emotion is so touching.

Ginger Who, what, what? The son that counts was there hitting all his marks and he was glorious. The whole Wales family looked like something out of a Sir Walter Scott book. William cuts a commanding figure all the time but in the formal robes, he exudes regal bearing. If God grants me the time, I hope to see him crowned.

Lt. Col. Johnny Thompson also did his bit to beautify the proceedings.

Upthead Ralph expressed the opinion that the ceremony was too threadbare and tatty without enough ermine and bling on-show. As an American, my experience with ermine or events at the Abbey is limited but I was pleasantly surprised that the rumor that KCIII was going to go for a minimalist wokey-jokey Coronation were greatly exaggerated. I saw ermine and bling--on His Majesty were it belonged. I think the tone he achieved was the perfect middle ground between nods to ancient traditions and modern sensibilities both. In short, it was the Coronation Service but also Charles's fingerprints were on it. A good compromise.

I might have liked to see the congregation a bit more tricked out in some finery befitting such a watershed, once-in-a-lifetime for most of us occasion. Everyone looked nice but the effect was more 'run-of-the-mill spring wedding' than Coronation. Many of the invitees would have been wearing what was for them, their very best, so that's really a quibble not worth mentioning. I think King Charles, Queen Camilla and everyone who had roles in the service performed brilliantly. Even if Justin Welby's peevish delivery grates on my ears like sandpaper, I couldn't fault the discharge of his duties. The whole thing was executed flawlessly.

A special commendation goes out to Lady Scarlet Feather of the Princess Royal's hat. Parfait!
xxxxx said…
Steve Winwood Performs Higher Love at King's Coronation Concert 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDY9N1dvvas

Thanks above for letting me know about this. A very good version!
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

The Lion and Albert read by Stanley Holloway sounds like a mix Lancashire and Yorkshire accents, maybe Lancashire with some Yorkshire?
Incidentally you forgot the link, it's https://youtu.be/oaw-savyK0s
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I don't see how Harry could have dropped into BP (what for?), the time line doesn't fit. BP is about 16 miles (25 km) away. I know he had a police escort and they cleared the road for him but it would be very, very tight (unless he borrowed his wife's broomstick?). Meanwhile, the rest of us have to contend with a speed limit of 20 mph.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/305c6bb51b75b7a1b3b84c263be5c040f92f850db338b3e3cb0d85e0e9f17a32.jpg

a Charles III look alike sex dwarf has disappeared.

Observant One said…
Hint for watching the events in the US: PBS has both events continuously, even a pre-show commentary. The PBS app is free.
NeutralObserver said…
@xxxxx, LOL, I watched the PBS broadcast of the Coronation Concert like I watch a lot of television, while I was doing something else, out of the corner of my eye, half listening. The first part featured a lot of young up-and-comers, who undoubtedly will achieve success later on, but who frankly, aren't quite ready for prime time right now. A large young 'Commonwealth' group took the stage. I didn't look at it closely. One guy came to the front to stand alone and began to sing. I thought to myself, 'Wow, that kid is talented!' I took a closer look. The guy looked like an elderly grey haired accountant, or college professor. His voice was amazing. His name was flashed on the screen. Steve Winwood. Oh yeah, the rock legend of the 60s, 70s & 80s, with the unique high pitched voice, one of a kind. I have to say it was an enjoyable moment, & I appreciated the King & Queen's wide ranging musical tastes.
xxxxx said…
NeutralObserver .......

I didn't see any of the Coronation concert. But as seen on YouTube, Steve Winwood did a great job, with a rearranged Higher Love. With a large female chorus. That was perfect for the occasion. I am sure he has met Charles a few times. At a Prince's Trust do, or two.
Girl with a Hat said…
I’ve been reliably gossiped to that Meghan Markle is expected to launch herself (Ive lost count of how many times) from this weekend onward.

She’s been doing a lot of clothes shopping/fitting and hair and makeup tryouts.

Hopefully she doesn’t look cheap again. 😂

https://twitter.com/jomilleweb/status/1656138727251386368
Sandie said…
https://anonymoushouseplantfan.tumblr.com/

More updates from Plant ... her opinions are always well worth a read. In the latest updates, she mostly focuses on why TBW has failed in just about everything she does.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12065343/SARAH-VINE-Plan-B-Prince-Harry.html

The new column from Sarah Vine is chock full of royal stuff. This from the ghostwriter's article (about the kidnapping incident in the army and how he wanted to include his 'clever' comeback but the ghostwriter wanted to leave it out) has me wondering:

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"The Prince wanted to include his own comeback — not because, as Moehringer explained, it added anything to the story, but because Harry thought it made him look clever.

All his life, Harry explained, he had felt belittled by people questioning his intelligence. This incident, he felt, would prove them wrong. But Moehringer insisted on keeping it out: in his view it was 'unnecessary, and somewhat inane'."
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He thinks he is so clever but in 'talking freely', without the BRF and courtiers to protect him, he has revealed how dumb he actually is ... too dumb to realize how dumb he is! As for her, I think she is clever enough to have achieved a mediocre easy degree and to bamboozle her way into getting attention, but she is not highly intelligent and, like him, is not capable of fruitful self-reflection, learning and change. They really are soulmates!
Sandie said…
These tweets are rather odd as they were not posted in response to an ask, nor is any context given:

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Theresa Longo Fans
@BarkJack_
Security and the RF

State of the art detection devices can uncover monitoring equipment, a wire, for example.

Intelligence training familiarizes officers to the latest tech.

Security can exploit tech with techniques and equipment which make listening devices or bugs useless.
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Theresa Longo Fans
@BarkJack_
·
11h
Voice-stress analyzers are used on people whose truthfulness is questioned.

Security also make good use of informants.

There are also many highly secretive tactics used by security; info we are not privy to!
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https://twitter.com/BarkJack_/status/1656011395446579213

If the implication is that M15 view the duo as a security risk for the monarchy, I think that is believable.
Maneki Neko said…
Sarah Vine in the DM has a very good article.

Sorry, Harry, the one reason America cared about you was because you were part of the Royal Family... So is there a Plan B?

Shee sums it up in these two paragraphs.

And where has it got him? Up a creek without a paddle, that's where. Because if the Coronation showed us anything at all about the future of the Royal Family, it's that Harry is not in any meaningful sense a part of it.

In just a few short years, he has gone from being the adored younger son to a scowling and irrelevant presence.


Three years down the line, Megxit doesn't seem such a good idea after all. I don't think Spare was a roaring success. What else can Harry do?

The article is also in Reddit.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12065343/SARAH-VINE-Plan-B-Prince-Harry.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/13d74so/sarah_vine_sorry_harry_the_one_reason_america/
Maneki Neko said…
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Sandie said…
@GWAH
Interesting gossip, which is probably true. Isn't she getting one of her two awards for this month this weekend? She has to make the most of every appearance! (Is that why she went hiking dripping in 'meaningful' gold jewellery, but sans engagement and wedding rings? Truly bizarre! Was leaving the rings at home a safety precaution or an attempt to create speculation/gossip and thus more attention?)

Her arms in those hiking pics look as if she has been using the home gym, and I am sure she had ankle weights on underneath her socks. She is also looking slimmer than she has been for years.

I am sure she will get a lot of attention for her appearances, but supposedly she now firmly has a reputation for being impossible to work with and very little, if any, talent. So, if attention and tabloids coverage is all she wants, plus buying whatever platform is available to display herself and preach her word salad nothingness, then I think she will be ok. But, can they continue to finance it? If they had not exposed how trashy and nasty they are (plus the work ethic and diva problems have been exposed), she could have made a lot of money as 'face of' high quality and expensive brands, a relatively safe way to earn millions ... a photo shoot plu video, and wizardry with lighting and Photoshop will do the trick. That ship has sailed, surely?

Her memoir will earn her a few more million perhaps, which may fund her spending for a couple more years. It will be a literary disaster and filled with 'untruths' that may unleash an avalanche of lawsuits, but I predict it will sell well, initially, and she will grift her way into record-breakibg bestseller lists.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/13dj9h0/meghan_markle_accused_of_phoney_first_public/

Some brilliant comments on this thread ... her deep insecurity underneath the smug arrogance, and her problematic relationship with her mother. (By the way, the pap walk was the day after Archie's birthday, not on his birthday.)

I can't resist copying and pasting this one though, about TBW's use of language:

* phoney = authentic
* stereotype = archetype
* truth = ‘their truth’ (aka bullshit)
* visceral = gutteral
* generational = genetic
* environmentalism = Range Rovers & private jets
* philanthropy = hypocrisy
* style = merching
* hounded by crowd of paparazzi = Deliveroo guy on moped 1/4 mile away
* love = money & status
* manners = salt & pepper
* Diana = gravy train
* beloved happily married woman with 3 kids = waity
* Dior = looks good just because label
* manipulative = tugs at the heartstrings
* not accepting rude & unreasonable behaviour = racism
* gift of flowers to smooth over an argument = racism
* a princess not sharing her chapstick quickly enough = racism (& cruelty)
* complaining about being bullied at work = racism

* laughing at their mad antics = racism
https://www.reddit.com/user/FlangePlackets/
Girl with a Hat said…
@Sandie

hounded by crowd of paparazzi = Deliveroo guy on moped 1/4 mile away

LOL
Girl with a Hat said…
I think I read this comment over at CDAN, but not sure. I should have posted it here right away, but I was having a lazy spell.

Anyway, there's a rumour that Harold came back to California after the coronation, but to San Francisco, where he's been rumoured to be seeing some blonde women, not Montecito.

Also, apparently, he got into a situation where there was some violence towards the woman, allegedly, and that Better Up helped him escape criminal charges.

@GWAH

IMO The cheaper the better!
Sandie said…
His court case against the Daily Mirror starts today ...
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD29GoLaw4o

the royal grift youtube channel plays extensively from Enty (CDAN owner)podcast about *'s yachting.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/13dpurq/_/

Jason Knauf is made a Lieutenant of the Royal Victorian Order by Prince of Wales at Windsor Castle! The duo are going to want to get revenge for this!
Sandie said…
https://countesscuriosity.tumblr.com/post/716938849784299520/scobie-being-their-witness-who-was-a-very-junior

Scobie is claiming he heard journalists at the Daily Mirror tell Piers Morgan about hacking, and claims he refused to participate for 'moral' reasons. Hearsay of course, unless he can get journalists to corrobarate his story in a way that cannot be torn apart by the DM's legal team. Is he heading for a perjury charge?
Does anyone else get the impression that H's double-handed gesture towards Eugenie looked more like a reference to her boobs that her abdomen? You know, pretending to weigh them to indicate that they are both a good handful?

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I've mentioned Broadmoor, the special hospital for the criminally insane, before on this blog as a suitable destination for H, and possibly * as well if we get stuck with her, but there was an excellent programme on our Channel 5 yesterday evening:

https://www.channel5.com/show/inside-broadmoor

The point that struck most forcefully was the statement that the inmates could be categorised as either:

a)schizophrenic - characterised by delusions and /or paranoia, often with violent behaviour long recognised as mental illness but treatable with appropriate medication

or

b) with severe personality disorders, namely NPD and psychopathy which weren't regarded as illnesses, insofar as they are part of someone's personality and there all the time. That is, they weren't treatable. Recently though, NPD has been recognised in law as a mental illness because it can respond to treatment.

There is no treatment possible for for psychopaths, however, (totally lack remorse/ contrition, or any hint of human empathy, may be irredeemable sadists, (presumably because it's hardwired into them) cannot be cured and represent a major management problem.

This analysis is fairly near the start of the programme, if you are interested.

I tried to apply it to * and H but failed. As far as I could see, I'd allege that they each tick all the boxes. The Dark Triad writ large? Insanity Bingo, anyone?
snarkyatherbest said…
Sandie and only now scoobie do tells us about this. WW of the West sent out her flying monkey because they are 1) always oissed with Piers 2) York girls had lunch with Piers. predictable


Rebecca said…
From The Times:

Tabloid stories about Prince Harry ‘came from the royal family’
Duke of Sussex has claimed he was victim of unlawful information-gathering by the Daily Mirror


Tabloid newspaper stories about the Duke of Sussex came from other members of the royal family, the high court was told today.

Prince Harry claims he was the victim of unlawful information-gathering by the publisher of the Daily Mirror between 1995 and 2011. He says the King and his mother Diana, Princess of Wales, were also targeted, as were former girlfriends, leading to “huge bouts of depression and paranoia”.

Andrew Green KC, representing Mirror Group Newspapers (MGN), told the court the publisher “unreservedly apologises” for the use of a private investigator for one story about Harry but denies that 28 of a sample of 33 articles about the duke involved unlawful activity.

Many came from information disclosed by or on behalf of royal households or members of the royal family,” Green said in a written statement. One of the articles came from an “on-the-record interview given by [Harry]”.

The publisher admits that a private investigator was paid £75 by The People to gather information about Harry’s conduct at Chinawhite, a celebrity nightclub in Soho, central London, in February 2004.

Green said the publisher does not know what information was gathered but an article “giving the recollection of a woman [Harry] spent time with at Chinawhite” was published by the newspaper.

Harry is entitled to compensation for this incident but “notably does not claim in relation to this article, so it is not alleged that this instruction led to the publication of his private information”, he added.

Green said the publisher “unreservedly apologises” for instances of unlawful information-gathering which “will never be repeated”. He said the publisher denies voicemail interception and claims some of the challenges it faces have been brought beyond a legal time limit.

Harry claims the alleged unlawful activities caused him “huge distress” and “presented very real security concerns for not only me but also everyone around me”, also creating “a huge amount of paranoia” in his relationships, the court heard.

He said MGN journalists even managed to book into a hotel in Bazaruto, a small island off the coast of Mozambique where Harry was staying with his then-girlfriend, Chelsy Davy. MGN’s activities “led Ms Davy to make the decision that ‘a royal life was not for her’, which was ‘incredibly upsetting’ for [Harry] at the time”, the court heard.

“They also caused their circle of friends to become smaller and smaller, meaning that friendships were lost entirely unnecessarily, and led to ‘huge bouts of depression and paranoia’”, the court was told.
Rebecca said…
David Sherborne, the duke’s barrister, claims Harry and other celebrities were the victims of unlawful activities on an “industrial scale” between 1991 and 2011 at the publisher of the Daily Mirror, Sunday Mirror and The People. In 1995, he said, the royal family had become big news for the tabloid newspapers “with interest continuing throughout the now-King’s divorce from his then-wife Diana, Princess of Wales, and her death in 1997”.

Sherborne told the court: “We all remember the images of [Harry] walking behind his mother’s coffin. “From that moment on, as a schoolboy and from his career in the army and as a young adult, he was subjected, it was clear, to the most intrusive methods of obtaining his personal information.”

Omid Scobie, co-author of Finding Freedom, a book about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, claims as a journalism student he spent a week at the showbiz desk of The People and “was given a list of mobile telephone numbers and a verbal description of how to listen to voicemails, as if it were a routine newsgathering technique”.

He also claims to recall that while on work experience on the Daily Mirror’s 3AM showbiz column, the newspaper’s then-editor Piers Morgan asked how confident they were about a story relating to Kylie Minogue and her boyfriend James Gooding, the court heard. He was “told that the information had come from voicemails”, claims Scobie.

Benjamin Wegg-Prosser, Tony Blair’s former director of strategic communications, was working as a journalist for The Guardian in 2002 when he went out for a Chinese meal with Morgan at the Labour Party Conference, the court heard. He claims Morgan showed him how to hack into a mobile voice message to explain how the Daily Mirror obtained the story about the affair between the then-England football manager Sven Goran-Eriksson and the television presenter Ulrika Jonsson.

Claims are also being brought by the former Coronation Street actors Nikki Sanderson and Michael Le Vell, and Fiona Wightman, former wife of the comedian Paul Whitehouse.

Sherborne said unlawful information-gathering was covered up by executives including Sly Bailey, then chief executive of Trinity Mirror. The hearing is due to last seven weeks, with Harry scheduled to give evidence from the witness box next month.

An MGN spokesman said: “Where historical wrongdoing has taken place we have made admissions, take full responsibility and apologise unreservedly, but we will vigorously defend against allegations of wrongdoing where our journalists acted lawfully.

“MGN is now part of a very different company. We are committed to acting with integrity and our objective in this trial is to allow both the business and our journalists to move forward from events that took place many years ago.”
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Tee shirt at 2:05 seems to proclaim `High Maintenance' (I managed to track it down by searching `Hebrew T-shirt Maintenance' and going to Images!)
snarkyatherbest said…
on a whole different note. doesn’t someone have two award ceremonies coming up? do we see a white dior dress rumored to be the unfinished dress for the coronation. will we see any other “princess diana jewelry”. i’m thinking someone was triggered by coronation weekend. i think we will see her go all out
VetusSacculi said…
So H’s lawyer is using the image of him behind his mother’s coffin in his statement. Are we playing “Victim Top Trumps”? H seems happy to let his victim narrative define him when it suits. BBC news is leading with H’s claim that press intrusion led to the breakup of his relationship with Chelsy. This may explain the rumours on CDAN etc that he was texting Chelsy for hours recently, had to warn her it was coming. Once again he breaches someone else’s privacy whilst whining about his own. If Chelsy didn’t want a royal life (as she is quoted), I’m sure press intrusion wasn’t the only factor in her decision. He really is a scumbag.
Rebecca said…
I didn’t realize that Harold has five lawsuits going. This is a rundown from Camilla Tominey:

With court case after court case, can you even begin to imagine Harry's legal bill?
Camilla Tominey
By Camilla Tominey
ASSOCIATE EDITOR
It is perhaps no wonder the Duke of Sussex spent so little time at the Coronation when you consider the burgeoning contents of his in-tray.

Prince Harry spent just 36 hours in London, leaving straight after the two-hour ceremony at Westminster Abbey to hot foot it back to Heathrow, via a brief pit stop at Buckingham Palace, where he did not speak to members of the Royal family.

The whistlestop nature of the visit meant he could return to Montecito, California, to kiss his son Archie goodnight on his fourth birthday.

Yet as we were reminded today with the start of another legal battle against the press, the father of two, 38, has quite a lot going on right now. This latest trial is just one of five legal actions Harry is currently pursuing.

Altogether, he is suing three newspaper groups for alleged illegal information gathering: Associated Newspapers Limited (ANL), which publishes the Daily Mail and Mail on Sunday, News Group Newspapers (NGN), which publishes the Sun and Sun on Sunday (which replaced the defunct News of the World), and Mirror Group Newspapers (MGN), which publishes the Mirror, the Sunday Mirror and the People.

The latest trial, against MGN, is due to last up to seven weeks, with the Duke set to appear as a witness in June. It follows Harry accepting substantial damages and an apology from Splash News and Picture Agency in May 2019 after it took pictures of his home in the Cotswolds from a helicopter.

And it comes amid Harry’s ongoing legal battle with the Home Office over the security arrangements for himself and his family when they are in the UK (legal battle number four). The Duke claims that there was “procedural unfairness” in its February 2022 decision to downgrade his personal protective security because he was not given an opportunity to make "informed representations beforehand". The date for a full High Court hearing is yet to be set.

Finally, there is court case number five: the Duke’s libel claim against ANL over an article about his case against the Home Office. The story was published online and in the newspaper in February 2022 under the headline: "Exclusive: How Prince Harry tried to keep his legal fight with the government over police bodyguards a secret... then - just minutes after the story broke - his PR machine tried to put a positive spin on the dispute".

Justin Rushbrooke KC, for Harry, said the Mail On Sunday article "purported to reveal, in sensational terms" that information from court documents filed by the Duke "contradicted public statements he had previously made about his willingness to pay for police protection for himself and his family whilst in the UK". ANL is contesting the claim, arguing the article expressed an "honest opinion" and did not cause "serious harm" to his reputation.

At a preliminary hearing in March, the High Court heard the Duke's bid to strike out ANL's "honest opinion" defence or grant judgment in his favour on it. A judgment is expected later this year.

Can you even begin to imagine the legal bill for all this? Clearly, Harry is hoping he will win on all five fronts, resulting in the newspapers having to pick up the enormous tab.

But the whole farrago has given me an idea. Now that Harry is no longer a working member of the Royal family, maybe he should consider retraining as a lawyer? Perhaps his fellow reality TV star Kim Kardashian, who passed the “baby” bar exam on her fourth attempt last May, could give him some tips.


Maneki Neko said…
Five court cases! Surely Harry has no time for anything else? Neither has * as she probably has to involve herself in these cases. Harry has to appear as a witness in June. Will he have to appear for the other cases? And if he's coming in June, where will he stay? Frog Cott is out of bounds now. I don't think this is the quite life he envisaged when they left the BRF. Ultimately, this will backfire because no one will want to have anything to do with them as they are building a solid reputation as a litigious couple. He can't be a happy person if he's suing right, left and centre. If Harry thinks he's better off out of the BRF he's deluded.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/13ebq70/one_of_the_first_markles_victims_is_finally/

Millie Mackintosh about being ghosted by TBW when she met hapless.

Millie was in Made in Chelsea and TBW was trying to get on the show, probably the only reason she befriended Millie.
Magatha Mistie said…

Singalong 🎤
Apologies: Mary Poppins
Jolly Holiday

Papped Corn-Flakes

Oh it’s a folly ‘orrorday
wi megsy
Megsy grasps your ‘and
so tight
When the day is bright and
luminary
Megsy turns the day to night
Unhappiness is looming
all around her
Small children start praying
up above
When megsy shows ‘er ‘and
all gnarled fake tanned
Your ‘eart stops beating
due to tungsten’s band
Oh it’s a sorry morrowday
wi megsy
No wonder that it’s Katherine
that we love…

Sandie said…
Sorry to go on about this ... I have just seen a clearer picture of her hiking, and it now looks more like some 'fat-burning/muscle stimulation' device around her waist. She has been focused on getting thin and toned for a public appearances. It was most odd to go and be papped like that when she has a home gym and huge grounds. This and the collection of expensive jewellery and absence of wedding and engagement rings were supposed to cause speculation and get her a lot of attention?
The time of baroness Kilkeel as a royal lady is vanishing fast in the mists of history.

Hence the hike with her "friends" of the yesteryear.
Magatha Mistie said…

I’m spitting feathers.
That bridgerton actress
white mother, white husband
stated the balcony was
“terribly white”
If roles were reversed
they’d be cancelled outright!

Magatha Mistie said…

@Observant One
Hope you’re back on
your feet soon 😘

@Maneki
Beanz Meanz…

@WildBoar
Generalised Lancashire
accent, er-rhotic 😉

@Hikari
Enjoy your Coronation tea
Beautiful ceremony


Sandie said…
https://the-cat-with-the-emerald-tiara-1.tumblr.com/post/716965648923852800/piers-morgan-and-prince-harrys-bitter-feud-on

Piers Morgan is in trouble ... Quite a few people have submitted statements saying that not only did he know about phone hacking, but he laughed and boasted about it. I am surprised that more people were not prosecuted when the hacking was exposed because a number of laws were being broken. However, in pursuing these cases, hapless probably has two aims: destroy Piers Morgan (simply because wifey has a grudge), and get a huge payout. Considering that hacking is well in the past and privacy laws have been tightened in the UK, these court cases cannot correct behaviour that has already been corrected. This is what I find troubling about the court cases ... celebrities love the tabloids when they are doing their bidding and are fulsome (albeit dishonest) in praise, but they hate it when they get caught acting badly. Although DM hired a private dectective to go to a nightclub to get a story about hapless, the real story was when he was leaving the nightclub, and was seen in public, fall down drunk.

I am pretty sure that William hated the paps and tabloids for how they hounded his mother, but he has the maturity to let it go and move on in a positive way, but he will act if boundaries are crossed, and usually in a pretty direct way. Hapless seems incapable. IMO what hapless is doing is immensely self-destructive, but it fits in well with victim culture. His wife either encourages and enables him, or he is out of her control. It is so bizarre because she calls the paps and plants stories, through 'friends', in the tabloids. It's like she has a foot in both camps and manages to profit from both!
@Magatha

Hear! Hear!

I have a real gripe about the BBC's approach to history. To me, `Bridgerton' looks like an attempt to normalise the idea that there were significant numbers of black people at all levels of 18thC English society and especially in the aristocracy.

Er, no. They were predominantly in the working classes. Unfortunately, hard figures are difficult to come by. 10K in Georgian London is the most frequent estimate I've seen, presumably for any one time in the period 1715 -1830, subject to being either underplayed or exaggerated, according to taste, so to speak.

As for Queen Charlotte (b.1744) her black ancestor was the son of Afonso III of Portugal (d.1279). That is so far removed from her in time that calling her `black' looks like applying the notorious `one-drop' rule.
Well, bless my soul - from a former Labour MP

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/meghan-markle-woke-harry-chris-mullin-diaries-b2332370.html
Girl with a Hat said…
@WBBM,

yes, Queen Charlotte was a German princess with German parents.


THURSDAY, MAY 11, 2023
Blind Item #2
The first meeting at the super agency went as expected. The staff were told to call the alliterate one by her title. No one was allowed to use her first name.

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2023/05/blind-item-2_11.html#disqus_thread


She still thinks she is at some girl's birthday party and can force people to call her by a title in America. Wow, she is something else.
@WBBM,

Bridgerton is a Netflix production like The Crown. I completely agree with you though, and was one reason why I refused to watch it. A few years back. It just wouldn’t passed as piece of entertaining drama, but now, with so many not bothering to check and research, some might think it’s partly or completely factual. 😐

Sandie said…
IMO, considering what hapless has increasingly revealed about himself in the last few years, his family was at fault ... for not seeing that he had serious issues and that they would need to go to go to extensive lengths to help him. I don't think it was because they did not care. Rather it was that they were too indulgent and, no matter what he did, did not see 'the bad' festering in him. Army, deployment, being a working royal, Invictus Games ... all 'constrained' him ... until he met someone who freed him of all constraints and stoked up the flames of resentment, entitlement and the desire for revenge.
-----

https://archive.ph/2023.05.11-162144/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/11/unlawfully-obtained-story-came-from-pa-interview-with-harry/

As for the trial, I think hapless is perhaps being badly served by his legal representation. Why include accusations of phone hacking as a source of stories when there is evidence that not only is this not true, but the source of the information was Palace briefings or the prince himself?

And do his lawyers think it is a clever strategy to drag other royals in, even when it has no bearing on his case whatsoever? (Prince Michael is the latest to be dragged into the mess.)
-----

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12072967/Millie-Mackintosh-felt-snubbed-Meghan-Markle.html

DM has the Millie Mackintosh story. Supposedly the last time they saw each other they took those photos on bikes, and TBW said she was exchanging text messages with the prince. I would love to know how this fits into the timeline ... Found it: 1 September 2016. (The relationship became public in October.)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJ0mcVtgsbE/
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