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Is this Deja Vu or does it just Feel that Way?

 I know things take a while for deals to be finalized but it just feels like there has never a point in time where the talk is not of how they, or she/he, are/is ready to step into a spotlight, do something, may be paid for it and slay the opposition which doesn't appear to be exist in these articles.  The deals are always what others would drool over.  And oddly often very vague on details other than big money.  And endless opportunities in all directions.  These articles seem to be sprinkled everywhere like glitter.  It's always glory and money around the next corner.  The next deal.  That's the one which will pay out without mention of the last one.  Rinse.  Repeat.

It started with the same kind of talk when they left the royal family.  It was/is always how much money is possible and that the choices are wonderful for them.  Maybe that is why it feels like this is a lecture to us and not conversation with us.  At this point, I think we know the talking points pretty well.

The Royal Family does do publicity but it feels like it has a softer or quieter sound to it.  Existed but understated?  While the duo's always seems louder or more of it.  Perhaps it was because they were all new and shiny back then.  Or not.  

But, but, but ... by now, they have a track record of how the various opportunities have played out which never seemed to have the walk into the sunset moment it was projected to have.  So I'm still not certain on what basis all these huge number deals are calculated (new math?).  

And, I suspect, that for a lot of Hollywood, the people who want to meet them to say they have met or try to pitch something, have done so by now.  And if they haven't (by now), probably are not rushing to clear their calendar in hopes there is an opening which can be worked out mutually.  

This time it is where she can come back and influence the world and make rock star money for less than the time of a single band set.  He seems to not be part of the deal.  That's kind of new. It will be interesting to see how that plays out short and long term for both of them.

But the question becomes: Ok. So why is this push different than all the others in the past?  How will that change the profitability this time?  What is that number based on?  and how was that calculated?  Companies appear to be being more careful about how and what they back financially (post Bud Light).  They tend to be looking more for hard numbers to back up the ad people's projections.  

Once you get past that, the problems become what are the long and short term plans?  Who is driving those trains?  And how much is their cut?  Because sustaining something is an endless loop of "what to do next?" as well as "how do I retain freshness?" which needs an experienced eye and has feelers out to  the changing whims of the world.

The other problem is that all these influencers (existing) and the wanna-bes have you in their sights.  And they want your numbers and the money you are bringing in.  You have to be hungrier than they are.

So one needs to be relentless in being driven as each moment or a wrong step could drop you closer to the leading pack on your trail.  You have to be able to move past an oops and lead the public into the next "thing" you are pushing without missing a beat.  You have to handle it well publicly as well as privately with your team.  



 


Comments

@SwampWoman:
I should have been more precise - please read as `return to functional Royal life in the UK...' or wtte.
Sandie said…
Interesting tarot reading ...

https://www.tumblr.com/is-mayo-an-instrument/729882418415337472/if-meghan-wants-nothing-to-do-with-the-royals?source=share

Why does Meghan keep using her royal title?
2 of Diamonds (financial difficulties/imbalance/hardships), Ace of Hearts (love/new beginnings/new relationship), Queen of Spades (Meghan)

I think Meghan uses her title for connection. It's how she meets new people and forms bonds. She's very aware that people are only interested in her because of her marriage.
The reason she's doing this is because she has a lot of hardships. This includes financial difficulties as well as depression and other types of losses.
To be honest, this has less to do with her career. This has to do with her happiness. While I can see her asking for favours and whatnot, for some reason, I have this thought in my head where Meghan is just very lonely and depressed. I hear the words "I want more friends."
Overall, Meghan has a lot of imbalances and losses in her life and she might be using her title to find friends and ask for favours/help.

Some might disagree, but I genuinely see her being depressed about having to use her title sometimes. Like, imagine being the only thing that makes you interesting is because of the person and family you married into? It'll definitely make you question your worth. But I guess she can't really complain because she knew what she was getting into...
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Does she have so much self-awareness, and is the act unravelling, hence the odd behaviour? When in doubt, act? Or is she deluded and really believes in her grandiose ideas about herself? I tend to see more evidence of the thus, and the odd behaviour is because what she thinks and believes about herself is an illusion.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Sandie: Considering that Costner looked peeved, and would not make eye contact with either of the Harkles, that's the wife's PR running amok.

*'s behavior reminds one of the time she was on the balcony for TOTC, and talking animatedly to herself. She had no idea how to act at the IG and looked around at other people, who were ignoring her, for clues as to when to cheer. She was always out of sync with her cheering and the action judging by the people around her. What a mess. It's a good thing the Harkles got fired from the RF; she would have made a continuing spectacle of herself at royal events.
OCGal said…

@Maneki Neko, haha! Thanks for giving us the link to some highlights of Feral Harkle repeatedly flicking her coat open to show off her fake pregnancy bump. I had forgotten how much that ludicrous action exasperated me during her 13 month pregnancy.

…and each time I look at the ball game video (where, I agree with everyone, she had to have been on mind altering substances), I see more and more inexplicable and frightening actions and facial expressions. I normally use an iPad Mini, and even on its tiny screen I see stuff of which which nightmares are made. At one point her eyes bug out like she received a quick electric shock, and her jaw jutted forward like it used to when she wore cheap snap-on dentures available on late night TV (buy one pair, get the second for free, just pay additional shipping and handling charge. No COD orders accepted).

What the heck was her bobbing and crouching all about? If I were doing that, it would signify I had too much beer at the ball game and didn’t think I could hold it one more minute. However, that explanation doesn’t wash for the doucheass. Therefore:

We need a licensed psychotherapist, primatologist, or prison warden to look at the whole video and give us a play-by-play about what Feral Harkle, in the wild, is doing and what messages she is attempting to send by her theatrical bobbing, dancing, weaving, arm waving, eye bugging, jaw jutting, grimacing performance here.

I think she is descending closer to full-time madness which she carefully kept hidden long enough to snag her mate-in-crime.

She needs to be sectioned (my humble opinion, of course).

I am filled with joy to be here for it.

Bring it on.

Mel said…
She seems to 'drop' as if she was bending her knees,
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It almost seemed that she was going to do that kind of 'bob' thing that she did to the aide who was trying to take her flowers at the funeral walkabout.

It's a cross between a curtsy and a bob. Very weird.

Except then she forgot what she was doing and just started bouncing on her tip toes.

Can you picture Catherine having to sit next to all that craziness?
OCGal said…

Two excellent comments on SaintMeghanMarkle subreddit, firstly in reference to whether or not Harry was an honored guest at Kevin Costner’s First Responders annual benefit, and next, what the heck was the crappy-looking small award M handed to H to hand sloppily to Kevin Costner.

The cut-and-pasted comment below makes a persuasive point that yes, Harry was an honored guest.

And I agree that Harry daring to turn down the microphone when invited to speak, gesticulating (unsuccessfully) to instead let his grifter wife take the microphone and speak, was offensive to Kevin Costner, the man in red t-shirt holding the mic (who is the actual founder of the event), and to every first responder there.

“Tbh, I don't think Kevin was impressed actually. That Harry, an Iraq veteran, turned down an offer to address the first responders and the event (that may have veterans themselves serving as first responders) WAS the honour! Markle is ONLY there by dint of her marriage to Harry. It was an absolute disgrace to defer the mic to his wife who hadn't warranted it. And for Harry to turn down that offer TWICE to address the crowd was an absolute offence. Total, compete and utter bad manners! The Brits there knew that; the Americans knew that. Harry and his dumb wife however, haven't a flipping clue about anything that goes on beyond or around the end of their nose. Yet most of that crowd, like the Royals, the aristocracy, the Old Money dudes and many who are of the breed of the old "yes, ma'am; no, sir" working class stock, are all about politeness and good manners, so they won't kick up a fuss publicly. Instead they'll make their disapproval known to that truly dense couple in a more quietly, more subtly devastating way.
So yeah, I think Kevin probably wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt. But their actions confirmed as much, leaving him unimpressed. Definitely 'friends' with NO manners whatsoever to speak of.”

The next commenter then made a great point about the odd loving-hands-at-home crappy looking award Meghan picked up, handed to Harry, then Harry gave to Kevin Costner. None of us ever found out what the award was for, but the commenter suspects that it was a last-minute made up award so that Meghan could be up on stage, grab a microphone and talk interminably to the assembled crowd. Kevin Costner was oddly impassive, showing zero emotion, when the award was shoved at him by H.

“ Agreed. Kevin wasn't impressed and I think he was angry HE was the one being given some stupid award when it was meant to be the firefighters' day. It was probably something she grabbed from home on the way out the door to use as a bullshit, made-up award to make sure she could get onstage and grab that mic. No-one seems to know what it was for. The Duchess of Montecito Inaugural Best and Kindest use of Backyard Award?…”

https://tinyurl.com/23yen3wr
Maneki Neko said…
This has to be just a rumour but in case you need a laugh...

Meghan Markle 'considers run for office': Duchess of Sussex's name is in the frame to fill Californian Senator Dianne Feinstein's seat after senator died aged 90 (and could the White House be her ultimate aim?)

She has made no secret about her left-leaning politics and belief that women can change the world.

So it may come as no surprise that Meghan Markle's name was being bandied about in Hollywood last night as a long-shot replacement for Californian Senator Dianne Feinstein.

Indeed, within minutes of 90-year-old Feinstein's death being announced on Friday, the Mail on Sunday was told 'phones lit up' with speculation the Duchess of Sussex could throw her hat in the ring to serve out the remaining 13 months of Feinstein's term.

A major Democratic donor who is close to Californian Governor Gavin Newsom - who will choose Feinstein's replacement - told the MoS: 'Meghan is definitely a long-shot but in the craziness that is US politics these days it's not an impossibility. Crazier things have happened.'

. . .

'Crazier things have happened.' That's obviously debatable. Personally I don't believe * will replace Feinstein for 13 months. For a start she'd have to drop her title and go back to being plain MM. I can't see it, apart from the fact that she's incapable of fulfilling the role.

https://tinyurl.com/5er7xmah

SwampWoman said…
Blogger Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
@SwampWoman:
I should have been more precise - please read as `return to functional Royal life in the UK...' or wtte.


ROFL, that would be predicated upon having a functional Royal. Don't think either of them can qualify and putting them together is even worse!

/But that's just my opinion.

Not that there's anything wrong with not being a functional Royal. I've lived my entire life not being a functional Royal, and I have to say that I really don't think that my happiness has been impinged upon one little bit by living my life on my terms rather than family tradition.
Hikari said…
I think the Narcissistic Collapse which HG Tudor predicted is well underway. She’s in a death-spiral from which there is no recovery, no matter how much money she throws at WME. If they had to graft two free seats at Kevin Costner’s event— $12,000 a table, for what a table of six? That would mean $2000 a seat— If they can’t come up with $4000 for a charity fundraiser, how is she paying her bill to Ari Emmanuel? How is she purchasing out right the production rights to a novel for herself to star in? It’s all fantasy. If she’d minded her Ps and Qs in the RF, She could’ve had a very nice and comfortable life as the completely mediocre talent free person she is— If only she had made a bit of effort to be respectful and do more than pay lip service to a life of service. She still thirsty for the billionaire lifestyle in Hollywood but she’s got zero to back it up and the royal connection that she was banking on is Kaputski.

If she were not by now a notorious figure still affiliated with the royal family tenuously through Harry, she’d have been locked up in a psychiatric facility or jail by now. She is dangerously unhinged and is there no concern for two vulnerable alleged children in their custody? When celebrities are involved in mental health crises Or criminal enterprises, everyone in a position to intervene looks the other way until something horrific happens and innocent lives are ruined or ended. She is indeed like a rabid animal, and there’s no cure for what ails her. She cannot get better, she cannot be better, she can only unravel further and potentially hurt people. Physically I mean, besides the mental guerrilla warfare that she’s always been waging. Given her level of chronic pharmaceutical abuse, I think I can say without hyperbole that she is skating very close to having a potentially fatal medical episode. If her off label abuse of diabetic drugs or Class A substances resulted in her succumbing to a cardiac event suddenly, I really think that is the kindest future for her, and the only way H has any way of extricating himself. He’s an odious little worm who doesn’t take care of himself physically either and is equally at risk for some sudden OD. If such a thing happen to either one of these tossers I would not be able to ring even a single tear out of my left eye or my right eye. In Harry’s case, although the injury he has done his family is grievous, I can look slightly kinder towards him due to his obvious mental difficulties. He never learned the coping skills necessary to be a fully functional adult. I think he’s only a handful of IQ points and a posh voice away from Sheltered workshop territory. His family did him no favors by covering his deficiencies all his life and allowing him to act to act as he pleased. They created him, not his wife. She and her cohorts only exploited the deficiencies that were already there. It’s not really clear that Harry understands what he’s done or the permanent bleakness of his future.

My two favorite Shakespearean dramas are Richard II and Macbeth. Both of them concern nobles who have a great deal that is rotting in common with H. Both die as a result of their internal weakness and entitlement and consorting with bad companions. I don’t foresee a happy ending for the tragedy of Ginger Nuts Mi
Mountbatten-Windsor, either.
As for H's belief in the possibility of their returning to royal life in the UK, despite their atrocious treatment of our nation and our dying Queen, I assume it's a facet of the Narcissist's Crede:

`That didn't happen - and if it did, you deserved it.'

Hikari said…
Some might disagree, but I genuinely see her being depressed about having to use her title sometimes. Like, imagine being the only thing that makes you interesting is because of the person and family you married into? It'll definitely make you question your worth. But I guess she can't really complain because she knew what she was getting into...
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Does she have so much self-awareness, and is the act unravelling, hence the odd behaviour? When in doubt, act? Or is she deluded and really believes in her grandiose ideas about herself? I tend to see more evidence of the thus, and the odd behaviour is because what she thinks and believes about herself is an illusion.


Sandie,

You seem like a very giving and forgiving person and the tarot readings you present often have what I interpret as a sympathetic slant toward the Harkles and the reasons they might be behaving as they do. Seems like a lot of tarot readers are fascinated by their suffering and their shared dysfunctional childhoods and their low self esteem and etc., etc.

I cannot bring myself to find a skerrick of sympathy remaining in myself toward either of them. I gave both of them the benefit of the doubt as long as I could, but six months into the marriage, I could see it was a disaster in progress. When the pregnancy con got underway, with H complicit . . followed swiftly by the Deal debacle, the escalating bullying allegations and the pair's very visible disrespect toward the Queen and Philip, and Charles too . . I was done.

Both of them are hardcore substance addicts whose myriad drug and drink abuses mask various sociopathic personality traits, and in Harry's case at least, learning disabilities and low intelligence. Frankly, I don't care if either of them feel depressed or bad about themselves. They are reaping what they have sown. I want them both to go away, permanently. The best I can do is feel compassion toward those two young children they were, neither of whom had the parenting they needed, and who both suffered from parental abandonment in different guises. But at some point, the adults they are now have to take the consequences of the careless and selfish ways in which they have abused everyone who has ever loved or trusted them. IF that's happening now, it's no less than they deserve.

No pity here. I have pity for the members of their families who've been treated like trash and discarded.
Mel said…
I think the tarot reader is probably right about Mm feeling alone and that she has no value other than being H's wife.

However.....I do NOT feel one bit sorry for her. That's the kind of thing that should be dealt with in therapy. Not choosing to be ugly to those around you because you can't deal.

She has plenty of $. Why not use some of it to get therapy?
Why take her failings out on everyone else?

Take some time (years if necessary) to figure out why no one likes you.
What are you doing that is so darn unlikable, anyway?

If no one likes you, that's on you. Not the Queen.

We all have issues that don't work well socially. But most of us outgrow them, or learn to not do that, or handle it differently. If we can do it, why can't she?
By the age of 42 (or 46) most of us have figured that stuff out.

Hikari said…
@Mel,

The real tragedy of the Sussex pair is that both are too far gone in their various mental disorders to benefit whatsoever from therapy. It goes against my grain to say that they are two irredeemable POSs, but that’s my unvarnished opinion. It appears obvious from their behavior that they are both sociopathic narcissists. Harry was a vile, mean little SOB long before he met the ILBW. She encourages him to be his worst self, and untrammeled by any standards of royal decorum or expectations anymore, he has fully obliged. He’s deleting and screwing over his family just as much as she is. That toxic jealousy has been burbling under his surface since he was a preschooler. Now he’s a middle-aged man with no skills and fewer brains who hasn’t accepted that he’s blown his life up and is no longer assured of endless deference and a free ride. His wife is the malignant dark triad which is notoriously resistant to therapy. Forming a productive relationship with a therapist is very much like the practice of a faith in God… Or a successful 12 step program. One has to acknowledge that one has problems behind ones own strength to overcome. Until one reaches a state of humility in acknowledging this and asking for help from entities with more knowledge and resources, Excepting that one’s own decisions and or skills have been lacking and therefore they need to subjugate themselves to the direction of a better governor… There can be no healing or progress. The Sussexes pay lip service to mental health therapy, But that’s all for show. Or some meditation, some herbal teas and massage oils etc. provide a momentary dopamine hit, but The real hard work of unpacking one’s failures goes untouched. They both believe that they are great, they have all the answers for humankind, and if things aren’t going their way, If their demands aren’t met and their message is being ignored, it’s because people are assholes who don’t appreciate their demigod status appropriately.

There literally is no help for people like this. They won’t get better, ever… Only worse. That’s bleak but I think that is the truth of their case. Both of them are the stuff of which horror villains are made… They were bad seeds as children and this is what they’ve grown up to. Especially her… If her story were fictional, she’d be right up there with all the psychotic women of cinema. Oh that remains is for her to boil a bunny and go rampaging with a knife. We already suspect that she has abused her dogs, And what if the fate of her Poor childhood kitty, choked to death on grapes? Or the comment made by her brother that on no account was she to be left alone with children. These things chill my blood, and I absolutely believe them of her.
Fifi LaRue said…
@OCGal: Poor Hairy, so beaten down and told his place that he could not take the mic, twice, when prompted because his nasty wife has him trained that SHE'S the one who does the talking.
Mel said…
Hikari....yep, they're too far gone now. No saving either one of them, imo.
Maneki Neko said…
@Hikari

'One has to acknowledge that one has problems behind ones own strength to overcome. Until one reaches a state of humility in acknowledging this and asking for help'
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Quite, but it needs more than humility. You have to come to the realisation that there is a problem and for that, you need a lot of introspection and also to be very honest with yourself. This might be painful to realise and sometimes the truth hurts.
The Harkles might be past help but that's because their situation has been allowed to exist for a long time and in the public eye. At this stage, it would be very difficult for them to change tack. As they're not going to get better, the question is what could happen if they get worse?
Sandie said…
@Hikari
That was someone else's tarot reading that I posted.

I agree with everyone that no change is possible with those two. Also, they are still being enabled: by wealthy and famous people and by the tabloids giving them attention. Wealth and fame are their 'food for life' and everything they do is to achieve those two aims. IMO his paranoia and war against media is not because of the attention but because of the criticism and the exposure of bad behaviour. I am pretty sure that the exposure of their shenanigans at that Harlem school just feeds their self-righteous victim narrative. He must know that it is not normal to present a place you are visiting with such ridiculous conditions and non-disclosure agreements, but she has convinced him otherwise. They tried to silence children for heaven's sake (for all time, under all conditions, in the entire universe), and a publisher and school and school district went along with this nonsense.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/16wqn0r/intouch_mag_the_former_suits_actress_allegedly/

The story is that she got such a good nose job that when people visit a plastic surgeon they bring photos of her because they want a nose just like that.

What inspired this madness? Is it perhaps this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/16wuf3k/study_kate_middleton_has_a_perfect_nose_since/

A Time article waxing lyrical on The Princess of Wales' perfect nose. Really Time? You regarded this as a topic worth writing about?
Magatha Mistie said…

Lower Orifice

Running for office
hahaha
madam President
a hoof too far
Lesser markle sea-bird
touting for top boss
Mega winged-spanner
overflown, albatross…


https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2019/11/meghan-markle-for-president-documentary

Meghan Markle may not need the presidency to make change around the world—but as the new True Royalty TV documentary Meghan for President? posits, she might be a formidable candidate if she ever decided to try it. The documentary features interviews with old friends who talk about Meghan’s past including people like Meghan’s sorority sister Liz Kores and her elementary school teacher Ilise Faye, who are interviewed about Meghan for the first time.

According to Lores Meghan would be “phenomenal” should she ever choose to run for presidency. “I first met Meghan freshman year. We were the newest members of the Kappa Kappa Gamma chapter at Northwestern,” Kores said. “At our sorority chapter meeting, I stood up and said, ‘Hey guys I’m thinking of volunteering with this organisation called Glass Slipper Project, it’s an organization that was giving prom dresses to girls who couldn’t afford them - who wants to come with me?’ And Meg’s hand was up right away.”

* *
Meghan is clearly aware of the difference clothing can make in a person’s life—just look at her capsule collection for the Smart Works charity to provide working wardrobes to women in need. She was aware of it in college, too. “There was one girl who came through towards the end and we could not find a dress for her,” Kores remembered. “But Meg wouldn’t give up and so we started looking in all the size racks, maybe a dress had been racked wrong and we found a dress and the girl put it on. And she cried. And then we cried… That was really my first strong memory of Meg and it seems like she has been helping people ever since.”

The documentary also includes new and previously unseen footage of Meghan as a ten-year-old campaigning against the first Gulf War, proving that she was an activist from an early age. The program also features interviews with old friends and a former teacher who hail Meghan as a force for change and one of the most dynamic members of the Royal Family since Princess Diana.



https://screenrant.com/meghan-markle-protesting-gulf-war-10-years-old/


Strange that we've never heard anything about a peace demo? All a load of rubbish.

It was in July 2019 that I had a `medical episode' when it dawned on me that she had her eye on the White House. Husband said `Rubbish' but I checked it out - she been reported as saying wtte before we even know of the H-link.

Interesting that VF frames it as H having to renounce his title - not sure about that as former Duchess of Kent was able, with ERII's permission, to renounce her title without the Duke losing his title. She's now known as `Mrs Kent'

As a palette cleanser, here's a film of the Kent wedding:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ44_-9kjuQ

NB The Duke's widowed mother reverts to her own title of `Princess' in her own right, born a Princess of Greece, cousin to Prince Philip.

Incidentally, this popped up after the Kent wedding footage, a journalist asking `Who does Harry think he is?'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi73nmTeMLc
Magatha Mistie said…

Quickie 🎤
Apologies:Vars and Dunham
Flipper Theme Song

Flibbertigibbet

They call her flicker, flicker
face that is frightening
Hopes no-one can see
her exposing her ‘v’
As we know flicker
loves just to plunder
It’s really no wonder
she sickens
you and me…




Sandie said…
I thought this Anon's response to that tarot reading I copied and pasted above was very wise:

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I think she uses her titles in two ways; one, if she feels insecure she thinks her title makes her better than others therefore giving her a false sense of superiority and she can reject others before they can reject her. Two, she has this misguided thought that people will want to be friends with her because she’s royal/a duchess, however, her problem is she doesn’t know how to be a true friend. All of her relationships are transactional and conditional. I don’t think she has a single relationship that is solely based on her true self having a genuine connection with another’s true self. She doesn’t go that deep with herself or anyone else.
You’re right, she is sad and probably has low-grade depression but if she has NPD, she won’t do the work to fix herself because she’s not the problem, everyone else is and the circle continues.
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I think she used/uses her title in other ways as well: to gain access to anything she wants; to acquire wealth through 'business' deals and 'donations'; to get freebies (tacky but true); to get the media attention she used to have to beg for; ...

She seems to have lost the ability to access the best seats to wherever and whatever, even at the last minute (like clearing the stands at Wimbledon and gatecrashing the fashion awards), maybe using other peoples' jets, ultra luxury and private holiday homes, ... what else? I don't think she ever appreciated royal jewellery so did not actually want anything in the vaults but probably resents that she was denied access. Same with royal residences ... not to her tacky faux rich tastes, but she still resents that she was not given Frogmore House or Windsor Castle.
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