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So ... What really did Happen?

 It was about the length of a cup of tea (more or less) but what do you think really happened?

I am expecting lots and lots of ink about how the two have reconciled, suddenly all is well between the two and expect unicorns in the garden with elves throwing glitter in the air level of happy walk into the sunset.

Full reconciliation?  Are you mad?

Have you looked at the definition lately?  It's about settling a disagreement, making someone accept something unpleasant or restoring friendly relations.  And, in that short a time period?  get real. 

It is about enough time to ask how you like your tea now adays, ask about your health (times two for both sides), make some polite conversation about weather, show a couple of photos of the kids and sip the tea.

Probably stilted conversation with prearranged topics as well as ones which would be banned like security.  Or a complete return to the UK (with support from the King).  Also minders present before, during and after.  Stilted and very un-intimate.  More like talking with an acquaintance  you see at the annual company Holiday party every December.   

It could be the start of something in terms of two being able to have closer contact.  Slowly.  Controlled.  Or not.  


It's hard.  The King is between a rock and a hard place.  He loves his son.  The son he used to know and tried to help through the years.  That help was not appreciated by the son who also has said (and written) some painful things about his father and the others in the family.  Very publicly which makes the working on how to attempt to reconcile ever so more difficult.  

The son he used to know is gone.  

What do you think they talked about?


 

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Girl with a Hat said…
I need some light gossip to change my mood.
Hairy came out in tears from his alleged meeting with Charles.
I think it's because he was told off by his father.
Who agrees with me?
Girl with a Hat said…
I wonder if Hairy will attend the funeral of the Duchess of Kent.
Girl with a Hat said…
more click bait from Liz Jones over at the DM;

LIZ JONES: Harry is doing everything right and I am overjoyed at his long-awaited reunion with Charles - now mean William needs to get off his high horse

From behind the paywall for you
https://archive.is/HNmdt
Ian's Girl said…
I agree with you on the need for light gossip and Hazmat's reaction. He not only didn't get what he wanted, he also has to inform Nutmeg of his failure. That would defiinitely bring a grown man-baby to tears.
@GQAH
He certainly didn't look a happy bunny , did he? Oh, to have been a fly on the wall!
Girl with a Hat said…
REVEALED: Truth about Prince Harry's meeting with King Charles – and it's not good news for the duplicitous Duke
Monarch gave the cold shoulder to son during frosty 25-minute meeting with no special treatment, as Lady Colin Campbell reveals the shocking details that the MSM won't

That's all people like me who don't have a subscription to Dan Wooton's substack can read, so I won't bother giving you the link.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/prince-harry-visits-ukraine-surprise-063531810.html
Good grief - he's now posing as a saviour for Ukraine...
I believe there are 2 main reasons why H finds excuses not to bring the children here:
One: Fear of their genetics being investigated and the truth being revealed
Two: Perhaps they could be taken away from him & *, even under the usual law applied to ordinary unfit parents, without invoking the 18thC rule about the monarch having custody of grandchildren.
O/T? - but I couldn't resist it!
This is what I call `talent' and `bringing joy' - flash mob in Paris square, followed unexpected performances in a Parisian restaurant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfUEstWJUkA
I've watched it twice and different restaurant events have followed!
Enjoy!
Girl with a Hat said…
People are having a laugh at Harry's expense because of this comment:

It is his first visit to Kyiv, which was hit by Russian cruise missiles just two days ago on the same night numerous attack drones from Russia violated Polish airspace and were shot down.

'I had to check with my wife and the British government to make sure it was OK', he admitted today.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15091029/Prince-Harry-surprise-visit-Kyiv-Ukraine-war.html
Maneki Neko said…
Apparently, Harry had tea with Charles and they met for 54 minutes. We don't know what transpired. According to the DM, 'Harry has 'regrets' and wants to 'reset' his relationship with the Royal Family and the British people'. The question is. does the RF want to reset its relationship with Harry? I don't put * in the equation, I think that ship sailed a long time ago. The British people aren't happy with Harry either and are not interested. He's probably been sent over by * to try and ingratiate himself with Papa.

Harry has now made a surprise visit to Kyiv to support Ukrainians with life-changing injuries caused by the war. You'll be pleased to know that he had, as well as the permission of the British government, wifey's permission. Not sure what she has to do with it.

'“I had to check with my wife and the British government to make sure it was OK. Then the official invitation came,” he said as he made his way into the capital on an overnight train through Poland.' I'm not sure he's supported British veterans that much.
Girl with a Hat said…
Prince William using an e-scooter to get around Windsor

https://x.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1966493369317687703
Maneki Neko said…
@Girl with a Hat

This is Harry's *second* visit to Kyiv, if you don't mind!! Amazing he can waltz off to Kyiv but finds it unsafe to be in the UK. And you'll notice that he mentions checking with wifey first, before the British government!
The best estimate I've come across for H's time with the king is only 18 minutes, as given by River from sources he wouldn't/couldn't reveal. 54 mins may be the overall time between him entering CH and leaving the premises.
Presumably he was searched by for hidden devices, whether that included a `rubber glove' cavity search isn't known.

(BTW I'm still seething about the search to which I was subjected when about to fly home a couple of days ago. I'm a little old lady with an implanted medical device subject to interference from old-style metal detectors. My hospital card was ignored and Security made a real meal of it, compared with the quick pat-down I get leaving France. I should be thankful that they didn't check my cavities, but it was still humiliating.
Anyway, River reports that H went to the loo both before and after the `tea' and finally, he heard secondhand that HM was overheard muttering later that H `didn't get it' and wasn't listening.
Jan Moir nails it with her description of his face as he left:
`For a moment the cheery mask slipped, the game face had gone. Instead he had the grim expression of a man who had just been refused a mortgage. Again.'
https://archive.ph/4QRLG#selection-2025.0-2025.150

Or, as Mr WildBoar put it with a Scotticism, `He's got a face like a skelped arse'.
Girl with a Hat said…
I think he went to Ukraine the last time, but not to Kiev.
Girl with a Hat said…
To the loo before and after? That is very suspicious. Do you think, as I do, that he had something hidden up his arse? LOL
Girl with a Hat said…
This time, Harry's comeback tour and visit to Ukraine was pushed off the front pages by exceptional events again. I think someone has cursed the Sussexes so that they never get the PR effect they expected.
Girl with a Hat said…
There was the second installment of her Netflix series, pushed off the front page by Taylor Swift`s engagement just a few weeks ago, and of course the pandemic which really limited the types of activities they were able to do, then the Queen`s death, etc.
Girl with a Hat said…
or maybe he needed some Bolivian marching powder
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar and Girl with a Hat

The loo before and after? Could it be to do with nerves? It's well known that anxiety and being very nervous can cause one to go to the loo (affecting both bladder and bowel). I'd say that could well be it was (if true), in which case we must ask why he was bricking it. Intense fear, apprehension, anxiety - so possibly that was a no from Charles (meaning later a bollocking from wifey).

@GIRL

You're right, it's Harry's second time in Ukraine, not Kyiv
I wonder if British tabloid ladies truly believe that Harry would the right person to represent the State in future when they drone on about his come back? The government (ANY government) or British Royal Family may have some qualms about a middle aged alcoholic drug addict with a pathological need for his pictures on front pages sitting through state dinners with important foreign guests. And the next day when needing some pocket money he would go to spill the beans to these same tabloid ladies? He is no more a person of quality, is he?

His face when leaving the meeting with his father said it all. A crushing reality was written all over it.

The famous payback time.

A couple more reasons for the loo assuggested by River & his commenters IIRC:
Needed to do coke twice,
`Shredded bladder' thanks to ketamine

According to River, he drank coffee - I suppose that could have run straight through him, if his stomach had little food in it.

@Alianor: I gather that State dinners are regarded as `diplomatic occasions', almost like `summit' meetings and royals have to report back at debriefing sessions about their conversations with foreign dignitaries.
Has any valuable intelligence been acquired, perhaps. Has any guest been politically indiscreet? One has to have demonstrated one's reliability, tact and diplomacy, as well as being a temperate consumer of alcohol and not likely to give offence to visitors. Hence Harry is not suitable!
Alianor,
Is Harry suitable to represent the UK? That's a Rhetorical Question - or near enough as to make no difference. There's already plenty of political embarrassment here at the moment about someone else who has been found to be inappropriate for the job, thanks to his choice of chums.
I wouldn't be surprised if it emerges that * is/was involved in this particular social circle as well.
Someone on SMM has observed that Camilla is an English, outdoorsy, horsey woman (or wtte) and that one doesn't mess with women like that.
This put me in mind of the story from Virgil I had to study as a teenager, that of Camilla, Queen of the Volsci, who led her people into battle against the Trojans. Our Queen lives up to her forerunner, a noble Battle Maid indeed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krfj-ihzRo0
Anyone else seen this? Tom Bower on record , 5 days ago, saying that H may not even be father of the children. Brave man, will they try to sue him?
PS From the comments: `The Liar, the Witch and the Kids in the Wardrobe'.
Girl with a Hat said…
That reminds me that Charles had Camilla beside him as he met his wayward son this week. She was there, no doubt, to help protect her husband from Hairy's temper tantrums.
One wonders what the baroness told her husband about the art of making babies. Maybe that the storks are so last millenium and modern babies come in a FedEx cases?

He is not the sharpest tool in the shed that's certain.
Girl with a Hat said…
I am kind of shocked at this:

Did you see how Duchy of Cornwall is selling everything with the label Halaal? I cannot believe this. Their chickens are halaal now. Their afternoon tea at their Nursery is now a full Halaal menu. What is happening?🤔

https://x.com/applema94099498/status/1967191093642223895
Girl with a Hat said…
I should have researched before posting this. It's not true. You can see for yourselves at this link.
https://www.duchyofcornwallnursery.co.uk/uploads/documents/Cafe-Web-Menu-Oct.pdf
It's the hair that settles it for me.
I'm thinking in probabilities - not only would I expect the children's hair to be more likely to be black hair than red but also more likely to be being really curly, rather tending to be straightish.
I'm sure if we were allowed to seen their faces, it would be obvious they they look nothing like their `parents.'
Girl with a Hat said…
Ok, so it turns out that the Duchy does produce halal meat and has done so for quite some time. It is also involved in halal food committees and has been for at least 10 years. In the UK, people have tried to ban halal meat altogether because it is not considered a humane way of slaughtering animals. The law is that halal meat must be intended for Jewish or Muslim consumers only, and not the general public so that halal slaughter doesn't become widespread.
https://x.com/Basil_TGMD/status/1967217107659301138
abbyh said…
Thanks for the comment about not true quite as originally posted. I appreciate the willingness to correct a prior post. Thank you Girl with a Hat.

As a side note, thinking about the law, halal meat would be unlikely to be eaten by very observant Jews as it is not Kosher (Kosher laws are more than just no pork or meat and dairy do not mingle).
Harry says his conscience clear.
How does he know that? He hasn't got one.
Maneki Neko said…
The DT has an article on Harry's visit to the UK.

'The Duke of Sussex has revealed his focus in the coming year will be on his father, the King.
. . . Despite losing the High Court claim over his security arrangements, he also said he would like to spend more time in the UK – and bring Princess Lilibet and Prince Archie, his two children, with him.

“This week has definitely brought that closer,” he said.

Discussing whether he regretted making bombshell allegations about the Royal family in his interview with Oprah Winfrey, his Netflix documentaries and his memoir Spare, the Duke said: “My conscience is clear.”

He added: “I don’t believe that I aired my dirty laundry in public. It was a difficult message, but I did it in the best way possible.”'
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He seems very confident that 'this week has definitely brought that closer'. I wonder what * thinks. Will she give him permission to go to the UK - which is unsafe - with the bairns?

And his conscience is clear, and he aired his dirty laundry in public 'in the best way possible'. I wonder what the worst possible way would have been. Well done, Harry, you've obviously done well.

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