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When is/was Life not a Recreation?

 I don't know if I really buy the idea of her trying this or that to be Diana 2.0.  There are some big holes of not following the script.  And, the alternative doesn't come off as: but I did this better alternative because I could.

Like the showing off the babies on the steps of the hospital.  

Why miss that chance to be linked with Diana?  because Catherine did it first?  Doubtful.

It's weird, no?  A deliberate choice not to recreate that classic pictures around the world?  It would have immortalized her look as being part of the Family and pulled out periodically when the kids were mentioned in print.  Especially after how they left soon thereafter when there were not as many photos of her as part of the family.  

The walk through the Palace (in a white dress right after birth) isn't even close to being similar or a one up.  When they are asked to show the baby, it is as if they turn the baby away from the camera. Less visible.  

Whole thing is a big hole.

Another is the very limited photos of the kids.  

They control photos every which way.  Some have said it was in hopes of a big check to come their way.  I don't know.  To accept money in exchange for the exclusive first real photos of the kids - that kind of sounds like a half in and half out play.  That it didn't happen may be less to the gray suits and more to that kind of payday seems to have come and gone.  Or both.

By not allowing what would be everyday photos of the kids, people learn to tune out the photos they've seen many times as they can get bored by not new.  People pour over the Wales kids and notice who lost a tooth.                                                                                            

As for the body parts/not a face, people get tired after they see this once or twice.  By this time (years now) the public may be thinking there is something seriously wrong because there is no reveal other than a different way to not see a face.  Any number past twice closely spaced is coming off as a red flag.

Another thing is being in public.  

What we aren't seeing is a whole lot of the Montecito kids doing fun kid things (let alone how to be royal since real royal tours aren't on the H&M agenda).  We don't see Archie surfing with his dad at the wave tank but we know he did attend surf camp according to photos.  We see her shopping at a toy store but we don't see either kid shopping for a birthday gift for their sibling.  We see her and an assistant going for burgers but we don't see them taking the kids along. We  may see them at a pumpkin patch but there isn't another kid or family in sight.  Nor do we ever hear of a kid going to a birthday party for a neighbor kid or graduation from nursery school.  School - hmmm.  Well, there was that time she did the school run while pregnant.  And, never again.  When we do see the kids, it always looks and acts very staged.  Exists for a nano camera second and then disappears immediately (like the 4th of July parade).

Public exposure of the Wales' kids is very different.  We get to watch them not only grow up but watch as they learn how to be royal at events (and still be a wiggly kid).  So we see them once in a while in public, with a parent or two, sibling or two but that's it.  Nice level of how much, how frequently we get to see them.  A good balance.

What is interesting is to contrast it to the photos of William and Harry growing.  Think of Diana taking them to an amusement part - I immediately think of the one with water splashing and laughing.  I feel that yes they tended to be in public, as family, lots and lots of fun experiences but perhaps less learning how to be royal in public.  That could have been because they were separated or then, she was gone.

Three different approaches and results.  William and Catherine seem to come off having a good balance between it all for their kids.  

One final thought about the photos of the kids - it isn't just that isn't that level of  money to pay the adults for a first baby shot or that there is less and less interest in the what these kids look like but that photos of other people are a hotter commodity.  Someone on the radio was talking about how there aren't photos of Taylor and Travis right now (this was during the honeymoon).  But the during the lead up, the photos were everywhere.


 




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Girl with a Hat said…
I read that Hairy wanted to interview people who had negative things to say about his mother and challenge them for those views, during podcasts he was hoping to make on the subject.
Firstly and most importantly, why does he think these people would be civil to him if they had negative views of his mother?
Secondly, Hairy thought they would do this all for free, again see point #1.
Maneki Neko said…
One obvious reason why * didn't want to appear outside the hospital with a newborn baby is that there was never a pregnancy and they used a surrogate.
As for not showing the children, * is protecting their privacy, which makes them more important than they are. She doesn't seem to realise that backs of heads, heart emojis on top of faces is getting really boring.
Yes, 'Three different approaches and results' but the Sussex children are not royalty. William and Harry were destined for royal life - at least William now - and so are William's children. Other parents, such as Sophie and Edward or the now disgraced Andrew & Fergie, let photos of their children be published when at royal events. The thing is, after the Sussexes flounced off to Canada, then the US, there was no royal role, so no possibility of having the children shown with their parents at some function, e.g. the Royal Windsor Horse show, the first day of school, a visit to a zoo etc. With the duo, we get zilch. Is this to spite the Brits and the RF? To make the whole family more special/interesting/(add your own adjective)?
Perhaps * doesn't want to be like Diana but to be Diana. Let's hope that now back on British soil - how it must grate! - she won't be able to do exactly as she pleases, even though they're not back in the fold.
OKay said…
I wanted to address comments made on the last post about Harry being born angry. That, I have learned, is a sign of autism. My son has it, and he's very high-functioning but yes, we had to work for years to help teach him how to manage his emotions appropriately. If this is the case for Harry, he actually may be higher-functioning than we know, albeit just barely. It doesn't excuse his behaviour in the slightest, although it may help to explain it.
Girl with a Hat said…
I saw that Mariska Hagerty won an Emmy yesterday for a documentary. Does anyone know when we find out if * has won in her category? I searched and cannot find the answer to this question.
Girl with a Hat said…
ok, I found the answer - October 30th for daytime Emmy awards.
That was a very good piece about the children.

I don't believe that those tots are from the baroness born! And if they are not even from her eggs born she is going to hate them. Lady C says that * hates her African heritage and I believe she is right because the hatred in her face when she said that "most people didn't treat me as a black woman" before she came to the UK.

* is a narcissist, Big Time, so no one can be more important than she is and the children are always important for many people, in this case for they are Harry's children (?) and therefore of royal blood. Something * is not and will never be.

And if the girl is pretty and white * will hate her even more for that is what a narcissist does. I know, my mother truly hated me and used me as her personal slave for she never did any work at home. To take care of our family of six was my work from my childhood to the day I moved out to my own life.

* will use those children and destroy them because she is incapable of loving them or their father. Narcissists do not love themselves and that only increases their hatred to other people but that is an other question.

If they divorce and she wants seriously hurt Harry she may say that the kids are not hers but neither are they Harry's. If it was she who organized the children to this world she may have done that too because she is not mentally sound.

Ian's Girl said…
I do think there was the expectation of a big pay out at some point, but I also think Harry's paranoia is a factor. I think that also explains the episodes like the one in Canada, with the dangling doll. Who knows how long they'll keep it up. I think things are very different than what most think. I still don't understand why Harry's is so hellbent on an apology for Nutmeg if they are contemplating divorce and he has another woman under his protection. I'm not sure I believe either story any more. I think Harry was tired of California, and now realizes none of his wife's projects are going to amount to anything. I have no doubt the pair of them think the palace is stopping their success, rather than an absolute dearth of talent on both their ends.
At this point, I am only really interested in how much financial support, if any, they're getting. Or rather, who is providing it. Because while I don't think the marriage was some kind of nefarious plot to bring down the Monarchy, I do think there are those with lots of money and that very agenda who have long sensed an opportunity.
I think Henry is spiteful enough to do it, albeit not smart enough to see it coming. I don't think Rachel would want to lose her royal status, but I do think she is egotistical enough to think it's the BRF who are blocking their abity to make ions, and for that, she might be willing to be a party to it. She also certainly hs spite to spare.
Girl with a Hat said…
people often have small mutations to the genes that are responsible for the clearance of neurotransmitters in the brain. Many people have this, not just autistic people, but I think it is found almost always in autistic people.

COMT gene mutations affect how the body breaks down key neurotransmitters like dopamine, epinephrine, and norepinephrine, which are essential for mood, cognition, and stress response. A common variant, Val158Met, alters enzyme activity, leading to either high or low dopamine levels and impacting mental and emotional health. These mutations can cause a range of symptoms, including anxiety, mood swings, poor focus, memory issues, fatigue, and increased sensitivity to stress. They may also contribute to detoxification problems and hormonal imbalances, particularly estrogen-related issues in women. COMT mutations are typically diagnosed through genetic testing, such as DNA methylation or consumer DNA tests, which provide insights into enzyme activity, neurotransmitter balance, and potential health risks. Management focuses on personalized approaches, including dietary adjustments (rich in B vitamins, magnesium, and antioxidants), targeted supplements, stress reduction, regular exercise, and proper sleep. Avoiding triggers like caffeine, high-sugar foods, and processed or high-catecholamine foods can also help manage symptoms. Overall, COMT mutations play a significant role in mental health and stress regulation, but with proper lifestyle changes and targeted support, their effects can be effectively managed.

https://trumelabs.com/blog/comt-mutation-symptoms

There's lots of info about it on the internet. True diagnosis can only be made with DNA testing, but the treatment is rather simple - avoid certain foods and take B vitamins and magnesium, for example.
VetusSacculi said…
On BBC News just now. The King has issued a letter via the Lord Chamberlain reiterating that the duo are not working royals. Interestingly it said the letter was sent to, among others, Prince Harry’s team so he must have needed to be reminded?

King makes clear Harry and Meghan remain non-working royals https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20lpevv7jlo
If you want to give the information to possible violent attackers when to make a hit the best way to do it is to publish the information in the papers and then repeat it every other day. I don't think that the sussex duo are afraid of the attacks as much as the humiliation not getting flashing blue lights is eating them.

I don't think they are considering what they are doing to their innocent children with this sick play acting with the "security".

Maneki Neko said…
Good on the King.
'Royal officials have made clear it is sent in 'full accordance' with the Sussex family's stated wishes to remain private citizens while in the UK'. I read this as this is what you wanted so don't complain. They've been publicly reminded of their station in life. * won't like it.

We'll see how this works out when * is on her next project: 'Meghan markle is Narrating starring in and releasing A princess diana documentary'.https://www.facebook.com/100063998775372/videos/meghan-markle-is-narrating-starring-in-and-releasing-a-princess-diana-documentar/1979258896112450/

UKLA said…
I just watched the recent episode of the Marc Dolan show. He is absolutely scathing re the letter released. Definitely worth watching. It's about 10 minutes.

https://youtu.be/C13tDSQEtCo?is=c9p508C5C68_bLN7
Girl with a Hat said…
Something that sticks in my mind when talking about the children is the sign that appeared briefly in front of Buckingham Palace where they usually announce the births. The sign said that the newborn was birthed by a surrogate, and it seemed to have been placed there by staff at BP, then quickly removed.
Girl with a Hat said…
My reason for including this long explanation about neurotransmitter clearance is that if Hairy were really serious about his mental health, he would have been advised long ago to look into treatments that would really benefit him, and he would be avoiding things like drugs and alcohol.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://x.com/Hypethatbiz/status/2096041152596079037

hilarious
Maneki Neko said…
'Harry and Meghan have said they were 'surprised' by the King's bombshell letter making it crystal clear they will be treated as 'private citizens' rather than working royals.
In a statement issued to the media, the couple's spokesman struck a confrontational tone and claimed they had not been told in advance.
In a statement issued to the media, the couple's spokesman struck a confrontational tone and claimed they had not been told in advance.
Palace sources have told the Daily Mail that this assertion is 'incorrect', insisting Harry and Meghan had received the letter before it was released publicly, although they were not consulted on its contents.

And so it continues. Instead of keeping a dignified silence, they have to go on the attack. Woe is me, again. They shouldn't be surprised, they are not working royals but perhaps they didn't realise it (sarc). And now they're victims again. Plus ça change...
Girl with a Hat said…
Their whinging about the letter clarifying that they are not working royals also served to overshadow Prince George's first day at Eton.
Two weeks in the UK and they're showing us their true colours. They cannot be trusted, as all it took was 14 days for them to start complaining about securitay and trying to pretend they're royals at charity events.
abbyh said…
And that whole well William ought to be the one to reach out, have some private meeting which would clarify what the perimeters for the couple would be on going and poof they change their behavior! Like they can't even follow the rules and expectations for years (let alone about the recent private meeting with the king) and now, after the meeting would suddenly straighten up and fly right?

Well, isn't it just like Harry to arrive to England and then start to "negotiate" to the King (not with the King) what his place and works and so on are. He is a middle aged man and has not understood that his father is a head of state of several states and Harry's ideas of his own status are irrelevant because he is irrelevant.

But I bet that the King may look towards the Tower with a longing suck.

Girl with a Hat said…
Today is also the anniversary of Queen Elizabeth II's death.
Megasux had to overshadow that as well.
Maneki Neko said…
Now the Sussexes have 'claimed they were not given enough time to respond to the Monarch’s letter. The couple said they were denied the chance to clarify several points in his unprecedented announcement which described them as ‘private citizens’, not working royals.' (DM)
I didn't realise there was anything to clarify and that they had to respond to the letter. They've obviously never heard of a dignified silence. I'm thought the message was crystal clear. The more they whinge about it, the worse they're making it for themselves. They need to realise there is no mileage in playing the victims.
Humor Me said…
I am reminded of the shoe being thrown and the barking dog.....
Sassie said…
I just read a wonderful comment on X, where the commenter said henceforth s/he will always refer to the Sussex Duo as “Citizen H” and “Citizen M” rather than Duke and Douchass, or Prince etc, this decision coming because yesterday’s official directive issued on behalf of King Charles III clarified that “Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are to be treated akin to private citizens.”

I am however very nervous and suspicious, because they both still feature on the royal website, he is still in line of succession (God forbid) and Counselor of State, and though they are HRH they are told the HRH is in abeyance.

Why did the proclamation say treat them AKIN to private citizens? It does not actually state that they ARE private citizens.

Plus, when has a previous carefully worded beat-down of any sort ever before stopped those two from doing exactly what they want, when they want? Thus, I predict claiming titles are in abeyance means zilch.

I still personally believe this is all just theatre of the absurd, to calm and assuage the masses. My suspicions and predictions have proven true too many times before.
Heavens, how handsome young George is in his Eton uniform! It will not take many years till the papers start publishing "news" about beautiful girls.

Which made me remember Harry's bitter words about his nephew forcing him to shadows one day when he grew up.

But Harry is not helping himself. He is fat and looks unkempt for he clearly does not take care of himself like William does. He was always sporty so that would be a way to stay relevant in his OWN life.



Maneki Neko said…
'Harry and Meghan yesterday hit out at the King's decision to label them 'private citizens' – because they want to be known as 'public figures' instead.
. . . In particular, the Sussexes seem to have taken issue with the statement that they should not be treated like royalty.'
. . . 'The Sussexes prefer the term "public figures", and would have liked an acknowledgement that, on a personal level, they remained members of the Royal Family, despite no longer receiving public funding.'

So public figures, in the public eye, but private? Charles was preempting future problems when he sent his letter to 'Harry's team, government departments, military officials and Lord Lieutenants'
'The letter was revealed before a reported meeting this week of the executive committee for the protection of royalty and public figures (Ravec), which is responsible for making decisions about royal security.'

There was a revealing sentence in the DT yesterday. 'The Duke is convinced that his protection was withdrawn as some kind of punishment for quitting royal duties.' He's feeling hard done by and has been for a long time and so does *. He's also got a very big chip on his shoulder. I hope the loathsome duo don't get any security but if so, they'll blame Charles even though he cannot influence Ravec. This will never end or else it will end badly. There's nowhere for them to go, although I hear Portugal is very nice this time of year.
abbyh said…
It was not punishment. It was not understanding not doing this now meant things would change in the day to day. When you quit a job, you don't get to keep the company car, the corporate credit card, the expense account.

I worked with a guy who had given notice at a place. Nothing changed in the two weeks. On the last day, the place was stunned that he would no longer show up there.
Girl with a Hat said…
I think that the term "public figure" would allow some leverage to obtaining international VIP status for security anywhere in the world
Maneki Neko said…
Well done, Sussexes. Now Uganda has pulled out of Invictus 'out of respect for the King'. General Kainerugaba, the president's son, said 'We shall not participate in anything that does not have His Majesty's approval.'
Asked by The Times why he made the announcement, General Kainerugaba said: 'I have factions in the Ministry of Defence that support that Harry-Meghan nonsense. I had to quash it straight away. I support the monarch. Period.''

I wonder if other countries will follow suit. The Harkles are not getting the welcome and support they expected, but then they are delusional.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

We haven't heard from you for a while. I hope you're ok.
If the sussex duo are going to go on like they started after their return to the UK the year 2027 is going to The Harry's Wife's Year Of Cosplaying Princess Diana. She will be The Main Speaker in numerous occasions for she considers herself as A Reborn Diana.

I don't know why for Diana was a gorgeous blonde with heavenly blue eyes, beautiful body with long shapely legs and she moved like the gifted dancer she was. She had such warmth and understanding for human suffering, such mischievous sense of humour and such sophisticated manners and elegance with her dress. I could go on but you know what I am trying to say.

The baroness has absolutely NOTHING of those things, NOTHING. She is now 45 so her youth is totally behind her and she is living her middle-aged years with her envy, her jealousy and her stupidity and all those negative things show on her face. She has become ugly, I am sorry but that is the truth.

My empathy is for William and his children. If Harry and his wife go on with this "monetizing Diana program" it all becomes filthy and degrading and ridiculous and that is not right to any of Diana's family for there are her sisters to think of too. But Harry seems to be on a path of no return so he will not give up while he has dollars and pounds in his sights.

I do wish we could remember Diana as she was at her best, remember the good she did and then let her rest in peace.

Here I am. Maneki Neko, back safe and sound. The `digital switchover' did for me - `Easy !' they said, `Just plug in your new router!'
Sadly, I don't have a smartphone nor did I understand the language of the instructions. EE promised an engineer visit for Tuesday which did not happen (I'd cancelled a choir meeting and stayed in all afternoon.) Got thro to my old ISP yesterday and they fixed a different engineer for today - problem solved!
Had been feeling lonely and abandoned, longing to catch up with reaction to the King's edict. Have got a lot of catching up to do.!!
Thanks for yr thoughts - see below.
Pity the final sentence of the King's statement wasn't `This letter does not call for a reply'.
Maneki Neko said…
Thanks, @ Wild Boar. Glad you got your internet sortedl
Welcome back, waiting for your comments!
Maneki Neko said…
The loathsome two 'are 'happy to be back' in the UK' - so they say. Maybe they've been advised to stop whingeing because a couple days ago they were indignant about getting that letter from the King. If they're feeling happy about being back - the feeling is not mutual - I hope they can enjoy their new found happiness (that must be a first) and leave us and the RF alone. Let's see how long this happiness lasts.
Girl with a Hat said…
Can you believe the nerve of these two? It`s so ridiculous that they think they have to be consulted in a letter from the King, that it makes me laugh. These two are funny but I don`t have to deal with their constant idiocies.
Thank you for your kind greetings! The sense of relief I felt at the news of the King's letter was profound, equalled only by my frustration at not being able to comment and express my joy.
Whether its significance and implications ever penetrate the extraordinarily thick skulls of Citizens H and M remains to be seen. It'd be nothing short of miraculous, were they to pipe down and keep their noses clean - we can but hope.
Of course, it's the 9th of September today. My thoughts are with the people of the US and with all those who lost loved ones. May the victims rest in peace.
How swiftly time passes.
Magatha Mistie said…

Ransom and Defiler

Sorry dear boy
listen carefully to Pa
Give up now
your Coup d’nah
The public figures you’re
no longer needed
Megxits edict you signed
seceded
I know you’re a bit slow
so I’ll keep it plain
No fatted half ‘n’ half for
Citizen Cain…


Magatha Mistie said…
@Sassie
I saw this as an unprecedented move
and well delivered
I don’t believe the King will risk
the Monarchy for an errant, erratic
idiot

Magatha Mistie said…

@GWAH
Unbelievable but true !!
Magatha Mistie said…


Desdemoana

Sack cloth and ashes
ain’t good enough
She’ll alway be known as
Hazs bit of rough
That twat of rough
went a long way
The pole got stuck
re-entering UK…

Maneki Neko said…
The duo are thick as a brick. They don't seem to understand that the King's letter merely reiterates the term of the so-called Sandringham agreement. Which part of No do they not understand? And now we have the two grifters doing the opposite of what they've been required to do. Firstly, Harry blamed Uganda’s withdrawal from Invictus on Charles's letter. Uganda actually only joined Invictus in July, they've never taken part in any games so perhaps this is not of much consequence. The reason is not Charles' letter but the fact that the general's son does not want to put up with what he calls the 'Harry-Meghan nonsense.'

Secondly, instead of a observing a period of silence for at least a few weeks, Harry is doubling down with the announcement of 'a string of pseudo-royal appearances in the UK and US as he and Meghan labelled the King’s description of them as 'private citizens' unrealistic.
The Duke of Sussex will support charities on both sides of the Atlantic in what his team described as his 'September public engagements'.
The programme includes a major awards event in London later this month before he flies to New York to appear at the annual Clinton Global Initiative meeting alongside former president Bill Clinton, his wife Hillary, Chrissy Teigen and LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman during the United Nations General Assembly week.'

Private citizens do things quietly without the need to make announcements. MSM is not helping, they need to stop reporting on these two. Deprive them of the oxygen of publicity.

Humor Me said…
So to the Harkles, nothing has changed. The letter from KCIII was a warning shot. The Kraken is getting restless.
Girl with a Hat said…
So now, it's the pretend royal engagements for Hairy, doing another George Costanza. (George Costanza was a character on the tv series Seinfeld, where George would do things like show up for his job after quitting and pretending that it never happened)
Sassie said…
@Magatha Mistie, you wrote “ I don’t believe the King will risk the Monarchy for an errant, erratic idiot”

From your lips to God’s ears…
I admit all this made me laugh. The baroness is planning work with her former charities. Wow I wonder how eager they are to welcome her back. But my main point is that she has screwed absolutely EVERYTHING she has tried during last six and half years and screwed badly. What success does she expect when the Britons do not like her and she is talentless, boring and stupid creature? Really!!

I think she aught to concentrate to sell her jams as soon as possible before they start to rot in her warehouses. I mean there is not big money in the charity work when a whole nation is going to follow the accounting and financial statements of the charities.

Surplus jam can be used to make a `country' wine, which can in turn be made into whine vinegar (see what I did there?).
For what it's worth, IBT has a piece with Dickie Arbiter as the source:

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/prince-harry-meghan-could-leave-uk-christmas-1819129

How about this display of pure brass neck from les deux citoyens: `Sources close to the couple have also said they prefer to be described as public figures.'
A beautiful piece of British snark here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1wdet3c/harry_and_meghan_have_only_been_back_for_two/

`Harry and Meghan have only been back for two weeks and their return is already a pure farce. This is the lesson they still refuse to learn': JAN MOIR
Maneki Neko said…
They may well flounce off again by Christmas.

If they reconnect with their charities, surely this means they want to slip back into their previous roles, which is what the Queen forbade. Yahoo News said 'According to The Times, Meghan wants to "rekindle" relationships with British charities. A source said she wants to support causes she previously backed. She is also considering new causes to support in Britain. Her activities are expected to develop gradually.'. I wonder if said charities will need Charles' edict re the Harkles. They should have nothing to do with the gruesome twosome. After all, they are private citizens, like you and me.

Girl with a Hat said…
Off topic - Norway's Princess Astrid dies aged 94 days after appearing at her brother King Harald's funeral
Maneki Neko said…
Autocorrect ! *heed* Charles' edict, not 'need.'
UKLA said…
Reality Tea is posting that Harry wants * to have Diana's revenge dress. I practically vomited. I'm sincerely hoping this never happens & this a wild rumour. For obvious reasons, including the fact it will never fit her. I can imagine IF they managed to obtain it, how it would be butchered to accommodate *'s Sponge Bob figure.

https://apple.news/AXgP_pDqVMNmEzmxpd3RspA
Not to worry, Manaki - I read it as `heed'. My tpings's all ovre the plcea to!
abbyh said…
Eh I don't know if the tea is always the best source for reliability of real life. They always seemed to be so proM in ways that don't fly with what I have observed behavior wise in the person(s) they are saying is doing X or Y when looking, it is more of M's doing that X or Y and, say, Catherine, is not. Like Catherine has no confidence but M is the embodiment of it.

That said, I suspect that he, under the guidance of his wife, would love to have it to give it to her and tea is right about that.

As for the dress - yeah it is up at auction and I doubt Sotheby's would let her be with it unsupervised. Does he have the money to buy it would be a more interesting question given that they have OG, maybe something in Portugal, looking for something really OTT in the UK plus school for kids in addition to all the daily life money sucks like food, cars, gas, koi and staff like gardeners.

Kim K got a boatload of flack about damage to the Marilyn Monroe dress. As an authority figure used to end his (sermon style) advise announcements to us kids: Let a word to the wise be sufficient. (yeah, we mocked it to each other when someone was about to do something they ought not to)
Maneki Neko said…
@UKLA

Then the Harkles have money to burn. And why would * want a 'revenge dress'? Revenge from what? She'll only make herself look ridiculous (not for the first time).
Girl with a Hat said…
I am trying to visualize * in Diana`s revenge dress and it`s making me laugh. That`s one comparison she should try to avoid because she`s not up to par.
HGT explains how Les Citoyens' own conduct triggered the King's letter:
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`Well, this is interesting. In his latest vid (11 minutes) HG Tudor features this sub and a lengthy comment posted by our Second Hand Coke. He finds SHC's comment regarding the reason for KC3's Letter of Clarification credible'.

Yes, interesting and very credible, spoiled though by the frequent interuptons by adverts.
Girl with a Hat said…
try using Brave browser. I don't get any adverts in youtube videos at all
Thanks, GWAH. I hadn't herd of that one.
` Princess Anne Destroys Harry’s Secret UK School Plot' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE-zHjN8jMQ

This lengthy video, with appalling subtitles, is quite a corker. Whether it is true, or if it contains truth, is debatable. What was entirely predictable is that there would be a stumbling block when it came to verifying the children's identities, thanks to the pig's ear of their documents. Weren't there problems of this nature when it came to getting Archie into his US school?

In the UK, individuals have to constantly to verify their legal identities - for eg whenever you go to a solicitor over a new matter, you have to produce an official ID (eg driving licence) and up-to-date evidence of your address, regardless of how long the solicitor has known you or how often they have acted for you. It started with legislation focussed on money laundering but clearly has value in child protection.
All loose ends have to be tied off properly - when my husband died a few months ago and I went to register the death, I couldn't say if he would be buried or cremated - I was in shock and couldn't think straight. Weeks after his eventual burial, I received a letter from the General Register Office wanting to know what I had done with the body.
This should not have happened - the parish office dealing with the administration of the graveyard were legally obliged to notify the GRO/original Registrar of the burial within 4 working days of it taking place. It was a shocking oversight and I await an apology - I caused me even more work on top of dealing with the normal bureaucracy of a death.
Girl with a Hat said…
I'm sorry you had to go through that. It is truly appalling.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

Yes, as Girl with a Hat said, truly appalling and it just adds to your grief. I think you'll be waiting for an apology for a long time.

Re the video, the narrator says that Harry mentioned Diana - doesn't he ever? - and that 'she would have her grandchildren walking on English soil'. A strange thing to say, I think. The video also mentioned the children had been kept away from Britain for 6 years. It makes it sound as if they were kept prisoners, her there was nothing to stop their parents taking them to the UK.
We don't really know if the children are now attending school. Funny how William and Catherine have managed to enrol their children in the schools of their choice without any apparent fuss.
Maneki Neko said…
Lady Amelia Windsor, daughter of the Earl of St Andrews and granddaughter of the Duke and Duchess of Kent, is getting married next May. William and Catherine are invited but not the Montecito duo. Harry didn't invite her to his wedding, though, so it's not a snub, I suppose. The decision is wise, however, as she wouldn't want any unpleasantness on her big day, but perhaps H&* will realise they are not wanted.
Maneki Neko said…
I forgot to post this. H&* have posted a video of the two of them having a country walk, complete with wellies for *, and of the children, Lili$ucks on a bike and Archie running in a very ungainly manner (we've noticed this ungainly stance before). The photos have two emojis, a Union jack and a red heart side by side. Really? That's some massive change of heart on *'s part, considering what she said about the country and us. She must be trying to mollify the RF and the country. I'm afraid it'll take a lot more than a Union Jack and a heart emojis to endear her/them to us.
A guessing game: Will the baroness ever come back from the US if information about Lily's true parenthood comes public?

(Lady Colin Campbell today)

Girl with a Hat said…
I love the Saturday Night Live UK skit about them, where * gives Camilla a gift of ice that she made herself. I found that very a propos.
abbyh said…
I thought he was wearing rubber boots of some type.

Doubt the emojis are enough to sway much after the new article about how Q Camilla was the one driving the letter. She has been around for a long time to see how things work at the palace and what doesn't work. Blaming her (in a non UK/HW source) comes off as a little clumsy.

I could see that she would be able to point out the difficulties that it all had the potential (by not responding promptly) to be giving the appearance of the half in/half out to play out in the UK. That is one more person pointing out another piece of the problem rather than insisting that the king take action.

If there was any truth to the story that various former patronages were contacted and told that the palace would be coordinating this for the couple - perhaps then there is truth that the various organizations, by asking for verification would be a more reasonable explanation as to why this came so quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIMVMw_bHDc
Avid Gardener gives her analysis of a recent piece on Radar On line, as she believes that it's H's way of communicating. The news may be bad. And who is Ellie Hall?
Maneki Neko said…
Saw this on the internet in Hello: 'Meghan Markle settles into Cotswolds life as she’s spotted driving herself. The Duchess of Sussex was spotted driving a large SUV in the Cotswolds after sharing a family video of her time back in the UK, HELLO! can reveal'. There was no mention of security, yet Harry said this was paramount for his family, unless a private bodyguard was following. As an aside, did she ever take a UK driving test pre Megxit? If not, she can only drive on her US licence for a year but she mightn't even stay that long.
Maneki Neko said…
Really bad news. I don't know if this is the reason why the twosome came back, a review of their security. A review doesn't necessarily mean anything will change but I would really resent my taxes being used for these two.

'The Duchess of Sussex has been granted her first government-backed security review since quitting royal duties, The Telegraph can reveal.

Both the Sussexes will receive an official risk assessment imminently, following their relocation to the UK.'

The couple have been asked by the Royal and VIP Executive Committee (Ravec) to provide full details of their new daily routines.

The committee chairman wrote to the Duke of Sussex last week confirming that in light of their changed circumstances, it had commissioned a new risk assessment for him and a separate one for his wife.'
UKLA said…
DM is reporting H & * have pulled children from their schools due to "security concerns"

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16130877/Duke-Duchess-Sussex-security-reviewed-Britain.html
Maneki Neko said…
Just now: 'Prince Harry and Meghan have pulled their children from their new British school, it was revealed tonight.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex removed Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet after just two days.
It said they are now 'starting somewhere new' after Harry and Meghan 'discussed the practicalities with their security team and it was decided they needed to change school'.
The seven and five year olds, who grew up in America, only came to live in Britain a few days ago. Now, they have been taken out of their prep school for security reasons, according to ITV News.' (DM)

I wouldn't put it past these two to have engineered some incident in order to force Ravec's hand. What sort of a life is it for the children?
abbyh said…
It may not even have come to having to create something. There allegedly have been complaints by the other school kid's parents who are unhappy about requests coming from HAM. Or that the school might have been unhappy at being told to call the two kids as prince or princess (basically having the kids titles used).

It sounds like what ever goodwill there was about the thought of the kids at that school has evaporated if any of this has some truth to it.

What's really sad to me is that it is/was the two kids tossed about before you add in any amount of how kids talk to a new kid. Some are friendly. Some are not.
Girl with a Hat said…
I think that they came to the UK with two rent-a-kids to pretend they had children, and they will end up homeschooling them, so as to cover up the fact that they don't have any children.
It takes the worlds most loving parents to treat their children like the sussex duo. Poor Archie and Lili. I doubt they have any chances to start normal schooldays in England when their mother uses them as her toys in her power plays.

Girl with a Hat said…
The kids never went to that new school. Not even for five minutes. Now, it could be just someone messing with the system, but Laurel Springs School which is arguably the best online private school in California does have two Mountbatten-Windsor children registered. No way of knowing if they have been attending because you do it on your own time and it is a rolling start process.

https://x.com/entylawyer/status/2099586442834202706
So Harry considers it correct behaviour to lift her daughter's chin with his hand and kiss her mouth? Very strange behaviour!
Maneki Neko said…
A quick look at the DM and it's Harry's birthday today. How touching, * wrote that he was 'simply the best'. Maybe simply the most compliant and easy to manoeuvre. I didn't read any further. Cue an article and lots of photos, not even worth looking at. If you're so terribly worried about your security, then surely you don't post photos every five minutes. Anyway, we've reached saturation point with these ridiculous photos.
OKay said…
For Harry's family, definitely. In other cultures, not so much. My mother's family is French, and mouth kisses happen all the time on that side.
Maneki Neko said…
Now it transpires that the duo's security did the school run during the summer holidays when school are closed. Did they not think that traffic is always heavy in therm time? And the children are supposedly at another school. That was quick!! In any case, if the parents didn't draw attention to themselves, this would be far less of a problem. 'One source close to them spoke of a worrying incident this week when the Sussexes' vehicles were unable to stay together in convoy.'. Is there really a need for a convoy? That's the best way to steal who they are. No one is interested in the children. I'm sure they're safe. The security is for the parents.
Humor Me said…
So the convoy got broken up in normal school traffic and the duo pulled the kids from their school on the first day. This says much about the duo. Those poor kids. Here acfross the Pond, the first day of school is celebrated. What a memory for A & L.
Girl with a Hat said…
She's a terrorist. The kids, if they exist, now feel unsafe.
abbyh said…
She is really reinforcing the fear into the kids, that it's everywhere you want to go and the only safe place is at home with security around the house.

um, as an observer and thinking, that could be an issue about teaching the kids how to be safe, have good relationships (recognize who is a good friend versus one who is not). How is any of this teaching them how the real world works?

A number of critics are describing the convoy incident as reminiscent of the great NYC pap chase.
I have this picture in my mind of the baroness who has a new oversized creation on her and she is strutting into Harry's daughter's classroom demanding to be informed whether "her royal highness the princess Lily's class has ended already?!?" (A hilarious memory over a half of a century ago)

The vulgar attitudes of Harry's wife are going to harm badly his children and he aught to know it and stop it. But I guess he has no say in anything under his own roof so his tots are going to pay dearly and some day HATE their parents.

Humor Me said…
Do the British have an agency like the American Child Protective pservices? Asking for a friend......
abbyh said…
More thoughts about the problems of the school run. (the Wales make it look so easy)

So if, somehow, they did get the security for the kids, how could/would that play out in the day to day school run where there are limited places for the other cars to pull off to the side, get out of the way as notified by the cops on motorcycles? You would have to have pretty much the whole distance closed off (start to end point is how far), right? because if you didn't close it off, allegedly some bad agent could pull off and lie in wait. I don't know what roads, how large, how many intersect but would that be logical? This being that the school would still accept them back.

Given the security issues, had the kids had exposure to the British education system, it would have made some sense to board the kids instead of being day students. But, for the sake of the kids, that would be a really rough intro and not particularly kind to them after everything else they have lost or changed.

sigh. It wasn't cheap to move, it's not cheap to stay and it's not cheap to keep going back and forth.

Girl with a Hat said…
Wouldn't * have to be announced when entering the classroom?
Maneki Neko said…
@Humor Me

Each council has a child protection and safeguarding department. In addition. There is the NSPCC, National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children. Their phone numbers are easy to find.
Maneki Neko said…
I don't know where them school is and if there is somewhere safe where parents can drop off their children. On the approach to school, in towns and cities anyway - I don't know if this particular school is more rural - you cannot park near the school as there are double yellow lines along the kerb, meaning you cannot park, leave your vehicle, or wait 24/7. This is very strict. In London there are even school streets, so-called because you cannot enter these streets in the morning and afternoon during specified times. I don't see how the duo could be granted an exemption. The Wales children seem to be taken to school without fuss, so why not the Sussex ones? Madam wants to show how important they are.
As for the children being in a new school, this happened surprisingly quickly. I wonder what will happen to the school fees if the term was payable in advance to secure a place. No refund? I still think it's a case of much ado about nothing to try and get taxpayer funded police protection.
How it goes:

Monday the baroness' Instagram: HALLOOO WE ARE HERE, LOOK AT MY PHOTOS!!
Tuesday the papers: HARRY AND HIS WIFE ARE AFRAID! THEY NEED SECURITY!!
Wednesday the baroness' Instagram: HALLOOO WE ARE HERE, LOOK AT MY PHOTOS!!
Thursday the papers: HARRY AND HIS WIFE ARE VERY AFRAID! THEY NEED SECURITY!
Friday the baroness' Instagram: HALLOOO WE ARE HERE, LOOK AT MY PHOTOS!!
Saturday the papers: HARRY AND HIS WIFE ARE VERY AFRAID! THEY NEED SECURITY!!
Sunday the baroness' Instagram: HALLOOO WE ARE HERE AND WE ARE SO HAPPY AND VERY AFRAID! WE NEED SECURITY!!! BUT LOOK AT MY PHOTOS!!!!

Monday (rinse and repeate)

Maneki Neko said…
I think this statement sums it up:

'Former head of royal protection Dai Davies also told LBC radio: 'If you keep a low profile, most people outside the school wouldn't know where you are, what they're doing, and all the rest of it.'
.

'Do they really need to go in convoy with two little children on the school run? If they only just kept a little quieter, kept a lower profile, they'd be a lot safer in my view.'
Precisely. The children were 'sitting ducks'. No one cares about them, this is just faux indignation and manipulation. The problem is * is incapable of keeping a low or even lower profile.
Girl with a Hat said…
Don`t they have school buses in the UK? You know, the yellow ones?
Who believes that Her late Majesty is happy in heaven when the baroness who spat over everything she cherished and worked for her whole life has placed an Union Jack and a heart on her Instagram page? like now Harry's wife truly loves Britain?

She is a disgusting lying grifter!

Girl with a Hat,
THAT made me laugh! Yes a proper announcement would be needed!!

Maneki Neko said…
@Girl with a Hat

We don't have school buses like the big yellow ones in the US. Children travel free with a photocard on public transport buses in London. Elsewhere, it depends on the distance to the school etc but free transport is provided by local councils. You must realise that public transport is for plebs, not [pretend] royalty.
In rural areas, the councils often hire private coaches to pick up pupils where there's no public transport. Where the kids are in very isolated hamlets of farms, they may even use taxis. It was that side of the business that enabled our local coach firm survive Covid when no days trips nor coaching holidays were possible.
Ye Gods!
They scream about `security' but, as we saw with boat rides, they don't give a tinker's cuss about safety - here's further evidence:

Riding a quad bike lacking roll bars and not wearing helmets:

https://archive.ph/q2Krv

https://www.hse.gov.uk/treework/areyou/quad-bike.htm
PS I don't know about air crashes , but the House of Sussex is one overturned quadbike away from oblivion. Poor kids, whoever they are.
Maneki Neko said…
In the DM, 'An alleged screenshot of the chat showed the duchess introducing herself with a message reading: 'Hi moms! Thanks for the warm welcome [heart emoji]. So happy to be a part of this community xx''.
And then they talk about security! Should messages not be sent to their security team, for instance? The phone number was leaked so this is the excuse to cry about security and force Ravec's hand. I very much doubt the phone number is her personal one, if the Harkles are so worried about their secur, then * must have a phone for school matters as well as her personal one. Not buying it.
Maneki Neko said…
Harry was aware of Earl Spencer's book. Of course, he was. He was staying with his uncle in the summer. Probably he was consulted at some stage about certain episodes. Charles and William don't need this.
Girl with a Hat said…
Imagine having cancer and having your grown son pull this type of stunt on you, and this is just the beginning. If they don't get their 24 hour armed security (which they won't because only the King and Queen get that sort of protection), it's going to get worse.
The King and lord Spencer are both old men that have different memories of the past. We know that the King had difficulties to accept the popularity of Diana all those years ago, her young goddess status around the world. No one can say what anyone said after her death but the persons who did the saying and listening.

My warm emphaty is with the young woman who died 29 years ago and who has no possibility to save the story of her own life or her memory from a greedy younger son, a greedy brother or a bitter ex-husband's "memories".

I wish she could rest in peace.



Girl with a Hat said…
I have seen a man who was a German soldier in WW2 partner in business with a Jewish man whose entire family died in the concentration camps and become good friends, with respect and affection on both sides.
And we have these royals and aristocrats bickering and slandering each other over their enormous privilege.
Maneki Neko said…
@Girl with a Hat

It's not just the King and Camilla who get armed security 24/7 but also William and Kate, and this must be a sore point for the Harkles. Harry is the King's son so he thinks he should get equal treatment. That's not how it works but Harry is stubborn and can't see it that way, especially as * will be pushing for it. Even if the duo had stayed as working royals, they'd only get police security if they were on RF 'business', like Princess Anne and Edward and Sophie.

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