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"I fed Archie, I held Archie": The mysteries of Sunshine Sachs

Sorry, people of Great Britain and the Commonwealth, you don't get to see Meghan Markle's baby Archificial, but Ellen DeGeneres does.

DeGeneres states in a promo for her new season that "I fed Archie, I held Archie" during a visit to the UK where she and wife Portia also discussed elephant conservation with the Sussexes.

Ellen doesn't mention whether she communed with Archie at Frogmore Cottage, where Meghan and Harry supposedly live but have never been seen.

(One might wonder why neither Ellen, who is happy to share her wife and her life with her 78 million Instagram followers, nor Meghan, who is eagerly trying to build her Instagram follower count, chose to share a photo of this happy meeting with the public. But that's a question for another day.)

Ties to Meg's PR agency

It goes without saying that Ellen has ties to Sunshine Sachs, Meg's high-powered PR agency.

For those of you without Sunshine Sachs connections or popular talk show, Archie's face was last seen on July 10, when his mother took him to a polo match and carried him around for an hour pressed to her chest.

Archie will also reportedly not be photographed when his parents land for their official (and incredibly poorly timed) trip to South Africa.

Who pays for Sunshine?

It was just 7 days ago that the media announced Meg had engaged Sunshine Sachs to repair her damaged image, but there has been talk that she has been working with the PR agency as far back as her Suits days.

That raises the question of who was paying their fees, since PR agencies at that level can charge $900 an hour or more. Meg made roughly $50,000 an episode of Suits before taxes and manager and agents fees. How much sunshine could she afford then?

And how much can she afford now? Officially, Sunshine Sachs has been engaged by the Sussex Foundation - but can Meg be using monies donated to charity to polish her own reputation?

Strange favors

Sunshine Sachs is presumably not paying Ellen to say nice things about Meg - Ellen hardly needs money - but could they be doing so in return for some other kind of favor? If so, what kind?

Other unusual celebrities have been coming to Meghan's aid recently too, no doubt at the behest of Sunshine Sachs. 

Why else would 74-year-old Mia Farrow, a longtime Manhattan resident, be complaining that an an Australian news show was unkind the Meghan?  

Like Pink, who also recently came out to denounce "bullying" against Meghan, Mia has never been linked to the Markle clan before.

Unusual commenters

Several of our regular posters have noticed that since Sunshine Sachs' official hiring last week, the Daily Mail opinion boards have been overwhelmed with pro-Meghan comments.

In addition, there have been reports of Facebook suggested articles - based on posters' previous read articles - heavily featuring Meghan over the past few days, with female-friendly articles on Meghan's favorite designers and yoga poses.

Have you seen any more evidence of Sunshine Sachs in action?




Comments

Girl with a Hat said…
The Hillary Clinton seal of approval. LOL
Lime_Smoothie said…
Ellen's always on hand to bail the Megz out, eh?
Nutty Flavor said…
How could I forget? Hilary said on Instagram three days ago that, "I'm so inspired by how Meghan Markle—aka one half of @sussexroyal—is representing the U.S. in the U.K. and on the world stage. Meghan's new project: Helping @SmartWorksCharity equip women who have been out of the workforce with the office essentials they need to feel confident in job interviews and beyond. The ability to earn their own paycheck is a key part of women's economic, social, and cultural equality, and it can all start with some smart suits. "

To be fair, that could have been a Sara Latham connection and not a Sunshine Sachs one.
Nutty Flavor said…
Yes, Ellen defended them in mid-August after the private jet news broke.

https://people.com/royals/ellen-degeneres-defends-prince-harry-meghan-markle-amid-private-jet-criticism/
Lime_Smoothie said…
Mischi, she weighed in on the air travel debacle.

Nutty - do either they share PR/management, or she's hoping (like Andrew Morton) for the exclusive when it all goes in the toilet. All her relationships are transactional, as we know.
Ava C said…
DM commentators seem fully alert to possible Sunshine interference for feedback to this article:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7443923/Meghan-Markle-big-screen-BFF-Serena-Williams-tennis-match-New-York.html

South African readers more than anyone else. Interesting. But Sunshine may as well try to sweep a beach clear of sand, such is the hostility. There's just too many unhappy readers. No room for complacency though. She'll never let up while she has a place in our public life.
Kat said…
It's always so desperate. Dear Ellen, honey MM isn't going to get you whatever it is you expect. I'm sure she'll fall short on whatever promises have been made. I can't even fathom what Ellen gets from this.
It's all so weird.
Like that Picture of Philip and The Queen with MM holding Archie with Doria beside her. Something about that whole picture doesn't look right. I feel like Sunshine is putting in a lot of work for Sparkles--she needs it lets be honest.
If Ellen fed Archie, I'm sure it was just one of those baby doll bottles that look like it's feeding. I'm sure MM was able to get one of those feeding baby dolls that were popular in the 90s.
I really can't even picture Ellen and Portia in the same room as MM and Harry.
Hikari said…
My reaction:

The hell she did. The. HELL. She. Did.

It's official: We cannot believe a single item we read/hear out of the mouths of celebrities or pertaining to alleged things the celebrities have done. Ditto for politicians.

Is 'anything' true?
none said…
Ellen's on the front lines of the U.S. cultural/political war currently being fought here to keep us all divided. Expect to see MM making the talk show rounds to whine about all the hate she receives because of racism. Poor Princess Sparkles.
LavenderToast said…
I'm in Texas and we don't have as much Bulls_t as that Markle lady er...woman puts out and that goes for her minions too!
Fifi LaRue said…
Nobody saw Markle on commercial plane to NYC, and no photos of her at a yoga studio.

Ellen Degeneres cares a lot about money; her secondary career is flipping multi-million dollar residences in California. Ellen might say anything for money and publicity; she also may want to outbid Oprah/Gayle for the exclusive when Markle departs the UK. The rich are insatiable.

At $900/hour for PR, and private jets, Markle's going to plow through that $3 million charity donation in no time
Did you see the article in the DM showing Murky waving from the tennis match...being screened on a screen with an ad for Emirates Airline around it? Oh the irony!
Girl with a Hat said…
I don't know if this is MM's PR - a story in the Telegraph about Carolina Herrera NY Fashion Week show has a headline: Which Items Will the Duchess of Sussex Wear?

Isn't that odd? Catherine has also worn CH and this is not a brand that Meghan wears that often.
@holly, the divide is now being created by Murky in the UK. As a country I’d say we’ve never been or felt divided, she and Harry have created a lot of raciest tension with their virtue signalling and comments.
Emily said…
Had a laugh when I saw the headline. Fed Archie while discussing animal conservation at Frogmore. Eh no you didnt. Nobody lives at Frogmore. Giving too much information about the visit to make sure people believe it. The more they try to repair Meghans reputation, using random celebrities to speak out, the worse it gets. Think it's a case of let's see what happens on this African tour. Remember when they did the Morrocan tour, their split from the joint foundation was announced while they were away.
QueenWhitby said…
@ Hikari, this whole MM mess has tuned me in to how much SM and PR are being used to sway the masses with outright propoganda, how the threat of negative publicity is being used to essentially blackmail, and how these so called charitable foundations are just vehicles for what amounts to thievery from charitable causes and tax evasion. Imagine if Hitler had Twitter, Instagram, and Sunshine Sachs. I shudder.

I loved Ellen, but not now. To go on national TV and sing the praises of someone who is so blatantly rude, crass, hypocritical, money grubbing and narcissistic is basically saying that those who critique MM have poor judgement and are wrong. Well, Ellen can piss off - I won't watch her anymore.



Nelo said…

At this stage, Meghan doesn't care what the queen, the entire BRF, the media or the British people think about her. The truth is that it's well known that the BRF doesn't pay its workers well so they usually don't attract highly efficient people. They sometimes do but not often. Going by the sloppiness of Andrew's PR in relation to Epstein, I don't know if the BRF PR can match Sunshine Sachs. What is giving Meghan the confidence to snub the queen and call her bluff? Has anyone wondered?
They’ve changed the heading to include ...’photo-shy Meghan was seen practising her royal wave’ etc

It’s gettjng a lot of comments laughing the headline off. Do the P.R. peeps truly believe people are going to buy that after her shenanigans?! Lol
gabes_human said…
Holy Shit !! Have any of you seen the blind on CDAN ? It reeks of MM and trashes the entire RF. She is calling William illegitimate and therefore not an heir to the throne. I would include the link but I’m not sure how to do that on this tablet. I do believe that Miss MeGain has shown her hand and slapped HM in the face with her glove.
Bacon Barkle said…
If Oprah, Gayle King & Ellen are involved, there must be a story to tell.

And if she was still pregnant when they debuted Archie in that red hallway, then perhaps there could be 2 babies. Perhaps she got pregnant while a surrogate was carrying their first baby. I think she’s caught up in a flurry of lies. If they come back from Africa having “adopted a newborn”, I wouldn’t be surprised. And when Archie and his younger sibling are close in age and look strikingly similar, people will comment for decades the same way people still speculate about Harry’s father’s true identity.

It’s infuriating to me to see so much phony and superficial rubbish M & H are involved with when there are real problems in this world that their privilege could help solve.
SDJ said…
What Sunshine Sachs doesn't understand - nor do any of the celebrities that have spoken out on MM's behalf - is that MM is held to a different standard.

Ellen, Pink, Elton, George are all defending celebrity behaviour for someone from showbiz. To them, Meghan's behaviour is normal operating procedure for someone whose job description includes keeping your name and face in front of the general public for relevance and parts. That's why they are all wrong.

MM married into a job. She was advised, even warned beforehand, that being in the Royal Family was a job. It came with 1,000 years of protocol and expectations from the public who pay for her lifestyle. It wasn't an instagram game of glamour oneupmanship. She is not doing the job that she promised she would do, hence the criticism.

Sorry Sunshine Sachs, you won't get this PR right because you (and your silly client) are attacking it from the wrong angle.
punkinseed said…
Attempts to redress Megz image IMO is futile because she keeps on making the same lame, tone deaf moves.
Thinking back on PR interventions in the past, Amanda Knox comes to mind. She has never been able to redeem her image at home or abroad. And, even if it could have been shown from the very beginning that she and her boyfriend were innocent, it's because of her immature, narcissistic behavior throughout, she will never be able to overcome the public's enmity towards her. Megs, like Knox has become untouchable. No matter who she hires or how much she spends, she's never going to be trusted or liked, and it's doubtful she'll be forgiven for the blatant disrespect of the queen and the British people. Poking her tongue out that day at Christmas foreshadowed and defined her to us.
Hikari said…
@Flowerz,

As a 'woke' lesbian and all, with a wash-n-wear personal style, Ellen struck me as maybe being more authentic than most, for a celebrity at any rate. I see now that she's as bad as Meghan if she's willingly spouting crap like this for money or future considerations (ie, an 'exclusive' interview with a post-divorce Smegs.)

I can get expressing general sentiments of support for someone, even someone you have never met . . even somebody you don't particularly like, if you happen to share the same PR firm . . BUT . . to tell the most outlandish and verifiable porkies defies belief.

I'm disgusted.
gabes_human said…
Have I seen any evidence of SS ? Please scroll down and read my response to a blind on CDAN. I had to go toss a load of clothes in the dryer in an effort to calm down. I look for to interacting after the rest of y’all have had a chance to read it and let it sink in just what That Woman is attempting to do.
Hikari said…
This is so entirely desperate. I hope the Queen throws her in the Tower for this.

Diana conceived William within 8 weeks of her wedding and that entire time, she was on her honeymoon. Wills was a honeymoon baby. So unless we think that the newly-20 year old, sexually inexperienced new bride was balling random sailors on board Britannia, or perhaps some gamekeepers at Balmoral, she didn't have time or freedom to be unfaithful to Charles. She was most certainly virgo intacta before the wedding or what was the point of it all?

William had the good fortune to escape the Windsor looks for the most part, but now that he's all grown up, his bearing is very like the Duke of Edinburgh. Harry resembles his grandfather even more, and you can definitely see that he is Charles's son despite looking different than his brother. William has so much of his mother in him, but not for one nanosecond do I believe that he's not Charles's.

Do you catch that whiff of brimstone on the air? Satan's burning and she's fanning frantically to try and put it out.
Hikari said…
Photo-shy?

I just choked on my sandwich. She's shy . . that must be why she made love to her own image on the Jumbotron at the Open for two hours. Look at the photos--everyone else is watching the tennis. Smeggy's eyes are lifted to the heavens, over everyone's head, searching for herself on the big screen, with the moronic simper pasted to her mug.

It's too late to bring on SS now. She needed them back in March to spin the whole Moonbump show better.
gabes_human said…
Queen Bee (aka Reign d Abielle)
Oh, the other evidence I have seen of SS interference is the abdication of Reign. I suspected at the time that she was being baited and angered by someone planted on this board. Please Reign, you and Nutty and one or two others have kept this a civilized place for us to vent and compare notes. We all have a common goal but are fairly lady-like in expressing our opinions. You make a valuable contribution. Don’t allow some planted biatch to take you from us. I’m hoping that you are still reading even if you aren’t chiming in. Nutty, am I correct in thinking that you know how to contact her?
Hikari said…
In answer to Nutty's pondering WHY is Ellen DeGeneres so eager to bail out Smegs, a toxic person she has never actually met . . ?

Perhaps the word of Meghan's salad tossing exploits has filtered down, along with Smegs' willingness to toss both bicoastally and bisexually, if the price is right, and Ellen wants a taste of that, even if all those yucky man parts have crawled all over the salad bowl . . ?

I really don't know why Ellen would want to tank her reputation over the Markle. She'd best beware of the Markle Effect. If she gets too cozy, offers the Markle too many favors, she may find her show mysteriously cancelled one day. And I wouldn't put it past Smegs to make a play for Portia just to prove once again how very desirable she is.
Ava C said…
So the tone-deaf duchess, wilfully ignorant of British culture and historical tradition, is now represented by a tone-deaf PR agency, also remote from British culture and historical tradition. Making a mistake a child in the street would advise against. Let's tell the great British public, stoked to fever-pitch with dislike of elitist celebrities and facing a prolonged national crisis, that an American celebrity has held and fed the baby they're not allowed to see but have to go on paying for. That should work. And tomorrow let's get Gwynnie to back her up. We need to keep this thing going.
@SDJ, as they say marrying into the royal family is a lifetime role, and ‘not’ a role of a lifetime. Murky and SS have no idea what they are doing.
Jdubya said…
I saw that blind. Covers most of the family. Andrew fergie eugenie, bea and on and on.
none said…
MM's going scorched earth on the BRF using the media as her main weapon. This is going to be one heck of a battle to watch play out. I have to wonder what's in it for the U.S. media and why they are promoting her? Hillary Clinton tweeting her support? Why do they care?
Jdubya said…
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2019/09/todays-blind-items-royal-family-bonanza.html?m=1
Nutty Flavor said…
I believe Enty told us that Ellen enjoys young production assistants. (As did David Letterman.)
Girl with a Hat said…
but SS is not trying to win over the British public. This is what no one here seems to address. They are going to try to prop up her image with the American public.
Girl with a Hat said…
yes, I wonder how much Enty was paid for that. I used to like him....
SnarkyAngel said…
I am thoroughly disgusted with the entire show; however, with every installment I become more convinced that Andy hired that insufferable, narcissistic twit as a distraction for his discretions. The connections are public knowledge at this point; therefore, completely plausible. And the Queen signed off to save her favorite son. Harry was blindsided by it all, and roped in before he had a glimmer of a clue.
S.N. Anyone read Enty's "blind" today?
Unknown said…
Hi Nutty

Mother of two here. By age 38, when my second child was born, I was so set in my ways, managing my life, doing things as best as I could for myself, my family and my babies, that I never trusted friends or family to do a thing for them. By no means am I famous or wealthy, but some mothers go through that phase when its just you , your baby and the world. The world is far away to a new mother, as your focus is on the little person in front of you, everyone else becomes unimportant. The gardener is seen as a threat, the nurse who examines your baby is scary, the niece you adored is now not good enough to do diddly squat, your husband is your worst nightmare( even though babies have survived fathers for years ), your mother and mother in law becomes enemy number one ( forever telling you what you are doing wrong), nobody does it better than you. Where does a celebrity friend fit in? Bet a thousand guineas, my four month old baby would have been kept oceans away from something or someone called a " celebrity". Total hogwash about anyone else feeding or holding a precious , defenseless four month old, if the mother is around. There is something to be said about your heart being split in two when you have a baby. The other half of your heart is always out there. If you have a heart, that is. I cannot understand the dynamics here. Using a baby to boost popularity. Despicable. Whatever next. Baby bandwith?
none said…
@Mischi...Yes exactly right. The target is the Americans not the Brits.
Girl with a Hat said…
oh and Eugenie is cheating on her beloved new husband? how horrible of Meghan to have initiated this rumour.
Girl with a Hat said…
I don't believe a word in CDAN now and will cancel my subscription to his podcast. Everyone in the world is cheating on everyone. Don't you know, the Queen is sneaking behind Philip's back with the equerries, is the next rumour that he will try to peddle. Diana wasn't a virginal bride but a sexual predator. LOL
Lime_Smoothie said…
Absolutely right, SDJ. We still take the role of the Monarchy seriously in the UK, and this idiot is making a mockery of the welcome shown to her initially.
Lime_Smoothie said…
My reading of that is that Anne is cheating on Tim Lawrence. I know Diana was rumoured to have had a 'close friendship' with King Juan Carlos, but that was not in the early stages of her marriage.If she's flinging dirt like this now, she must be about to get booted out.
Ava C said…
Good point Mischi. Hadn't thought of that. But thinking of that, she still needs a modicum of talent when she gets back there. Something to offer. She may not be halfway through her life yet. People aren't going to listen to her 'opening up' about life with Harry for 50 years. She's not Priscilla Presley and Harry's not Elvis.
Marie said…
I imagine some of the initial funds that Disney supposedly donated for wild-life conservation will also find their way into the bank accounts of Sunshine Sachs and co.

Anybody know UK law? H&M are listed as trustees for their foundation. Trustees can indeed use foundation funds to pay themselves for expenses related to their work, although many do not. This concerns me because I can completely imagine H&M doing this and denying any misattribution of

There seems, however, to be quite a restriction on paying people who are "connected" to trustees. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/payments-to-charity-trustees-what-the-rules-are
I quote: "If a connected person is to be paid or employed by the charity, the trustee or trustees they are connected to must not be involved in any part of the process.

You need the commission’s permission to pay or employ someone who is connected to a trustee." (My thoughts - I believe the commission refers to the relevant UK gov agency)

So if H&M are trustees, why would their foundation be hiring and paying Sunshine Sachs instead of just going out to find a British PR firm who might actually have experience with charities in Commonwealth countries, rather than a company who largely works with entertainment celebs. Because Sunshine Sachs is indeed linked privately and commercially to the Meghan (one of their employees attended her wedding). And I begin to wonder about Misha Nonoo - is she getting reimbursed in any way for her involvement in the SmartWorks collection?

It is getting to be a farce how they seem to handle everything in the dark and hope the rules for everyone else don't apply because, well, they're just trying to save the world...one jet fuel-gallon, ignorant selfie-snapping tourist, disenfranchised kiddo, rhino, elephant, marine whale, women empowerment, random photogenic poor street kid, cupcake power, whatever other "woke" buzzword cause at a time...

On a side note, although they have their articles of incorporation which explains the focus areas of the group, they couldn't be bothered as trustees to actually list what the charity actually does. And I quote: "THE CHARITY'S OBJECTS ARE TO ADVANCE ANY PURPOSE WHICH IS EXCLUSIVELY CHARITABLE UNDER THE LAWS OF ENGLAND AND WALES." But there was time for manicures before barefoot Google talks, NYC flights, and of course, the insufferable Vogue edition. But such menial work as updating the public record about their foundation is below the trustees. ::eye roll::
Mary said…
Mia Farrow... lmao, someone needs to hammer moldy Mia about why she remained silent after her brother John was busted after raping 2 little boys https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Mia-Farrows-Brother-to-Be-Sentenced-for-Sex-Abuse-229522321.html All the vermin stick together
Ozmanda said…
Reading that CDAN blind gave me a headache, I need a lot more coffee before trying to make sense of it. I really hope Beatrice and Eugenie wasn't handed over to Epstein but my instints tell me otherwise - that saddens me.
As for Ellen - does anyone know when she was supposed to have visited the UK with portia? Would it be possible to see if she has made any appeartances in the US during that time? Like everyone else with a brain, this stinks of desperation and bulldust
Girl with a Hat said…
and Mia was involved in threesomes with that teenager who was the model for the teenager in the movie Manhattan played by Mariel Hemingway.
Nutty Flavor said…
Doubt this. If Andrew hired her, why would he allow her to push back and then ruin Eugenie’s wedding?Getting attention for his girls and getting them on the Royal payroll is Andrew’s sole raison d’etre these days.
Girl with a Hat said…
really? Beatrice and Eugenie sold to Epstein? no. way.
punkinseed said…
If I were queen... I'd put Bea and Eugenie on the Royal payroll after removing Andrew, Harry and Markle. I'd let them keep their HRH, but take away all of their royal duties and income. Tough love. Bea and Eugenie are loyal to their gran and family, which is a lot more than I can say for the 3 trouble makers.
SnarkyAngel said…
I agree in regard to the Princesses, but it's obvious that he lost control. A narc thinks they are more intelligent than anyone, they also tend to get their jollies by one upping everyone. It's all about power and control, of which the dirty duchess thinks she holds all the cards. She can out Andy in regard to his activities with Epstein. Andy is out of his league dealing with a truly mentally disturbed individual, and d.d. is out of her league in regard to the lengths that the R.F. will go to protect the Firm.
KayeC said…
Good Morning America and Ellen both run on ABC network in the US. Also, they have hired her friends, JM and OS. Just connecting the dots.....
abbyh said…
I agree with the comment that MM is held to a different standard that doesn't register with all these celebs. It is a different life although they understand glamor, pageantry similarities but that this is a different country, different politics and ... different laws isn't part of their thinking.

abbyh said…
When I read that blind, I thought: Well, this is quite the next move after you snub The Queen, I guess.
But I thought she was breastfeeding. Surely a mother who is breastfeeding a new baby wouldnt be pumping just in case a celebrity friend came by to feed the baby.
Girl with a Hat said…
let's not forget that Markle may be involved with Epstein as well.
Royal Fan said…
Pretty obvious she’s not breast feeding. I think she was doing fertility treatments and that’s why she looked so bloated and her skin looked awful for awhile. I think they’ve failed and the marriage has failed. I think she’s back in the US maybe for good actually based on the enty blind throwing Harry under the bus about a love child from Las Vegas living here in the US. I think there is possibly a baby from a surrogate or an adoption but the custody is/was an issue and once it’s ironed out we’ll meet the little one more but I think the royal fam will retain custody. I strongly believe Meghan is out of the RF and is now living with a friend in NYC. I don’t think we’ll see her take a flight back to the UK. She may pop up in Africa but I think she’s going to be residing on this side of the pond from here on out.
CookieShark said…
I breastfed my child until she was 14 months. At 10 months I took an overnight trip for the first time and was incredibly uncomfortable, even though I could go several hours without pumping. I'm sorry, I just don't believe MM is breastfeeding with all the trips and the tennis matches she is going to (not to mention the baseball game and her other excursions, like the Trooping).

Whether or not she is breastfeeding doesn't matter, but I almost need to detox from her at this point. What she and her PR people don't get is that the love-bombing multiple daily stories are entirely the opposite of what we actually see happening. There are too many stories of her being rude, callous, and using people for it to be false. Everyone must be lying about her, or it's possible that some of these stories are true.

I see no motive for everyone to lie about their interactions with MM. Why not just go to yoga and let 20 people post pictures of it? Why tell the public no pictures and no interactions with the baby? She and Harry could live a secluded life, pop up at fancy events here and there, and show off their cute kid. I'm not telling them to hide, but if they just lived their lives without weekly, sometimes daily announcements we could see what they wanted to portray, no need for them to yammer on about how dare the public want "access" to Archie.

It is downright bizarre that MM swanned about for her entire pregnancy, posing endlessly and then was incensed that the public was interested in Archie's birth. She never hinted at a due date - every pregnant woman knows their due date. It's seared in your mind. Her attempts to say other people had babies 5 weeks ahead of time just shows she knows very little about prenatal care. A 35 week old baby will be in the NICU! That is nothing to be casual about. It is like she is trying to mimic other women but isn't sure how. The video of the baby "kicking" was also bizarre and appeared staged. A kick can be felt but not seen until very late in the pregnancy, and almost never through clothing unless it is a very thin top. Even then it presents more like a roll, not the finger-jab kick depicted in the video.

The various activities (editing Vogue and designing the capsule collection for SmartWorks) appear to be attempts to "brand" MM like someone would to sell different products at KMart (sorry, KMart). A print magazine and designing clothing are hardly eco-friendly endeavors; they both create tremendous waste. Instead of the capsule collection, why not provide the women with money and shopping assistants who will comb thrift stores or other budget-friendly places for quality clothing that exists already?
Royal Fan said…
Yes exactly! She’s setting herself up as a “lifestyle brand” thing ala Jessica Alba and Honest Company or Reese Witherspoon. There’s a few others who’ve successfully done this but MM just too repugnant to make it happen!!

Agreed that her behavior toward the end of her pregnancy is exactly what convinced me she was not herself pregnant. I’m not sure we’ll ever really know what went on. I suspect a child will appear at some point from PH and the RF.
Anonymous said…
I feel we've entered the point where Harry will have to choose. This latest barrage of PR has completely jumped the shark. On the one hand, it might be gratifying for Harry to have his brother suffer the same question about the legitimacy of his birth, but on the other it paints his mother as someone who is having an affair right before her wedding. Not a good look on anyone, even Saint Di. And all the other allegations? If they gloves weren't off before, they are going to be off now. Meg's ONLY recourse at this point is to repudiate these purely salacious blind items. Either she approved them, or she feels they work in her favor so she will say nothing. I'm waiting for round two tomorrow because Edward and Sophie weren't attacked. Why not include them in the "fun"? This has reached epic proportions now, and the only way to stop this is to expose her "doll." I suppose that at that point she will retaliate with an expose of Andrew at some event, but someone like her doesn't realize that people will connect the dots. This is always where her narcissism backfires on her. She never expects other people to have a brain. If she can expose him, then what was she doing there? Dusting in her merry widow?
SwampWoman said…
There is no reason at all for Hillary to support a 4th rate never-been actress and a long way from the throne royal. Hillary is all about the money. If she tweeted support, she was paid to do so, and her prices are steep. Again, the question that comes forcibly to mind is "why"?
SwampWoman said…
Good grief, how stupid does she really think everybody is? Princess Charlotte could be the clone of the young Queen Elizabeth.
SwampWoman said…
I agree with Mischi re the girls. No way. Nope. Never happened.
Vickaroski said…
I haven't heard of any possible connection between MM and Epstein, please tell!
Girl with a Hat said…
there's nothing substantial, but people say that she knew him and hung out with the people in his circle.

SwampWoman said…
Oh, my, Wizardwench. I was just going to read this last comment and go to bed, only to have read "dusting in her merry widow". Now I fear it shall be nightmares. It sounds like a horror movie to me.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Are they really headed off to SA now?

Because I literally just got this in my email inbox: https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2019/09/09/xenophobic-violence-flares-in-south-africa?cid1=cust/dailypicks1/n/bl/n/2019099n/owned/n/n/dailypicks1/n/n/ap/305928/n

Also, in case this hasn’t been mentioned before, J.Crew was sort of Michelle Obama’s thing while her husband was in office.

Her thing was mixing it up with designer items, IIRC.

I even signed up to their newsletter for fashion inspo (their style just happens to be my jam—not being a fashion victim) even though they have no stores in the country I live. LOL.

Oh, and isn’t Ellen known for forcing employees at her show who can’t afford to keep pets to adopt her pets/animals from the the show? Saccharine a-hole. I can’t stand artificial sweeteners, they leave a bad taste in my mouth...
Anonymous said…
There's a jpeg floating around that I assume was taken when she was on Suits (I never watched it) of her in garter, merry widow, etc., the entire ball of sexy wax. With a duster in her hand. It's time like these when you start screaming for eyeball bleach. Funny, Tussaud's did use THAT image for her wax work.
Vickaroski said…
Thank you. I wouldn't be surprised if there are connections
Ok so I'd like to play the devil's advocate for Hillary here...if you read very carefully, you see she is plugging for 'Smart Suits' for working women, it's subtle and you might miss it. But we know how big a fan of suits Hillary is!! So maybe, and thats a big maybe, we can let this one pass :D

On a serious note, we know that MM is definitely targeting the UD market, particular, the independent thinking women demographic. Hence the support from so called well respected feminist idols. We saw what happened when Beyonce supported her, it served as more of a back lash for Bey.

Hillary could be whatever she is in the privacy of her home ( ie., Hypocritical, money minded, self serving etc) but mostly she is a bad ass, and a lot of girls are inspired by her. (For most people outside of US, who havnt follwed the nitty gritties of US politics she continues to be someone who commands respect). So Hillary coming to her defence makes you question your opinions about MM. Same for Ellen.

This is an SS strategy that is aimed at turning the whole argument around.
abbyh said…
Interesting observation ... especially when someone pointed out that they (SS) seemed to be looking at America, not the Commonwealth, as the target.

Thinking about that as a long term strategy, how do you think they can play the baby being left behind so she could come to America but can't take him to his great grandmother? America is good about some stuff but abandoning your baby is still not one of them.

Interesting to see how long before she comes back to stay.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
I never had any respect for Hillary Clinton. To me she embodied the "Ugly American" archetype abroad, the kind that refuses to acknowledge that every country has its flaw and no country in the world is perfect (and she scared the hell out of me as foreign minister in a bad way).

Being the lesser of two evils doesn't make you a good person.

That Instagram caption sounds to me like a "saving-face manoeuvre" (like, "oh, nonononono she's not just spending all the British taxpayers' money on historic levels, look! She's giving back too!" I'm like LOL, you can see right through it).

On another note, Markle has a bit of a "fashion victim's mentality", doesn't she?

The "if it's expensive and a big name, then it must be good" thing going on?

Clearly this PR firm works marvelous wonders and miracles because I still think Harvey Weinstein is a sleazeball.
Ava... I don't think she needs to be talented, she just needs to be talked up. After all, she isn't actually going to do any technical brainy work, she isn't even going to act in a movie ever again. She is going to ride the hype about her perceived persona.

A lot of celebrities don't have much of a talent, nor do they use the talent all that often, but they become very likeable and popular and that where they make money.

Especially in the US, the hype about a certain person starts way before they have ever done any work, then they become a 'celebrity' with a flimsy body of work (Hailey Baldwin I'm looking at you), and then they get super rich. It's the latest Hollywood formula and MM dreamt it up way back.

That's why she is targeting US. It's a way bigger market that the UK or even Eu.
gabes_human said…
I don’t think anyone expected Epstein’s mess to be in the courts again and M was involved with H for several years now. Why would Andy or any of the RF hire her on the off chance that they would need a distraction? I was surprised that the Feds managed what I would consider double jeopardy as far as Epstein’s charges being refiled in as the original fed charges when it had been reduced to state and time had been served.
abbyh said…
Talking about the Ellen I fed the baby, someone commented in the DM that the dates do not align up.

Ellen and Portia were in London on the 9th (DM) and in the Netherlands on the 10th. But M&H came back from the 6 day trip to Ibiza on the 12th.

That's a problem.
Maybe Ellen also went to Google camp and that's where they met.
KnitWit said…
When they were engaged/just married, they mentioned adopting an African child. I suspect the family didn't like the idea. In retrospect, it may have been a better option than fauxarchie.

A picture of the happy family including the elusive Archie would help their pr more than expensive firms.
abbyh said…
Ellen was pretty clear it happened in London.
Vickaroski said…
It's possible since they probably have a spare Archie safely tucked away in the closet at Toad Hall. Popped the batteries in swaddled him up and handed him over
marvelousmagda said…
Ellen has her own disappearing baby story, too. I tried to find the story on the web, but all reference of it is scrubbed. Back when Ellen was schmoozing Anne Heche between 1997 and 2000, Ellen was on a show, perhaps a Christmas special. At the end of the show, Ellen announced that the twosome had "adopted" a baby. Upon which cue, Anne walked out with the kid. The twosome acted like they were producing the baby Jesus. I do not think it was a joke, IIRC, there was no follow up in the news that it was a joke. Eventually the child just disappeared *poof* like MM's dogs and kid. There is no reference of the child on wiki.

Somebody's paying the piper big time. Again, why? What is MM to these women? Nada, that's what. So, bigger picture - recruiting bonus for snaring Harry? SS is the shiny, new toy, but I think these endorsements come from a deeper and darker place - Epstein/SoHO?
Besides neither Ellen or HRC are appealing to MM's target demographic. To the under 35's, they are old washed up has-beens. Has-been seems to be the operative phrase in Markleland.
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marvelousmagda said…
Nelo, a rational person would have a self preservation streak. MM is wired wrong. Revenge is her ultimate goal and she does not care how many bodies litter the field of battle. No checks and balances, no boundaries. I do not know if the beginnings could have gone better. In some of her early appearances with the BRF, she was making some effort, emphasis on some, to dress appropriately, but the criticisms and snubs brought out the bitter, which already resided in that evil heart. She is the stuff of fairy tales, only not the heroine.
Nutty Flavor said…
It is truly a terrible time in South Africa at the moment, and drawing attention to it will harm the South African tourist industry.

The Sussexes need to find any excuse possible and cancel the trip.
I feel they don't even need an excuse. This is a valid reason in itself and that should say something to the effect of - " Keeping in mind the recent unrest in South Africa, the Duke and Duchess have decided to postpone their tour by six months. The Royal Highness especially are deeply saddened by the plight of the people of the great nation and hope this situation resovles soon so more lives can be shared and peace can be restored at the earliest.
Meanwhile, they pledge to help the country and people of South Africa in any way possible. "

This would go a long way in redeeming them, ever so slightly in the eyes of the public. They have been called tone deaf again and again, and this would show some sensitivity. Not to say that it's possibly not safe. Of course, Cape Town is relatively safer (read, whiter).
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Yes, but what it it's a chess move?

The riots concern xenophobia.

She strikes me as one of those Hollywood people who see no problem with using causes/people's plights for their own benefit.

Think about it. She could bring attention to the subject of the riot and draw parallels to her own situation, citing "xenophobia" as the reason the British public won't embrace her.

It's a disgusting thought, but I remember when I was fresh grad working at a non-profit that deals with human rights violations. Sometimes the victims we were trying to help would treat us with suspicion (I used to take this very personally because I was an idealist and a fresh grad who really just wanted to do good things). As I grew older and gained more work experience, I learned that not everyone in my field had the purest intentions. Some people are just in it to further their careers/interests.

It's a disgusting thought but it's a valid concern because it happens.
Regarding the CDAN site and I hate to rain on anybody’s parade and be a killjoy, but I stopped almost as soon as I started reading this site a couple of years back, because I was alerted to the disclaimer at the bottom of its Homepage. I do read BlindGossip, because so many of the Blinds have proven to be accurate and true.

CDAN clearly states and I quote incase any of you have never seen it:

‘CRAZY DAYS AND NIGHTS IS A GOSSIP SITE. THE SITE PUBLISHES RUMORS, CONJECTURE, AND FICTION. IN ADDITION TO ACCURATELY REPORTED INFORMATION, CERTAIN SITUATIONS, CHARACTERS AND EVENTS PORTRAYED IN THE BLOG ARE EITHER PRODUCTS OF THE AUTHOR’S IMAGINATION OR ARE USED FICTITIOUSLY. INFORMATION ON THIS SITE MAY CONTAIN ERRORS OR INACCURACIES; THE BLOG’S PROPRIETOR DOES NOT MAKE WARRANTY AS TO THE CORRECTNESS OR RELIABILITY OF THE SITE'S CONTENT. LINKS TO CONTENT ON AND QUOTATION OF MATERIAL FROM OTHER SITES ARE NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CRAZY DAYS AND NIGHTS.’

I have added the link to the full disclaimer which is right at the bottom of the webpage.
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/?m=0
Royal Fan said…
Ellen was paid to make those comments.
Royal Fan said…
Of course we knew this was a totally made up story but Ellen generally has an “authentic image” unlike Markle so they paid her for her trouble or made a “back scratching deal”. I’m sure the Sussex foundation is taking a big hit. Better question is where is the money coming from?? I didn’t think Sussex foundation had that much in it. Now we’ve got SS, HC, and Ellen. Those people don’t come cheap. Maybe SS cut them a deal?? Is Meghan yachting again for the SS execs maybe??
Royal Fan said…
His claim to fame was the Epstein story. 🤷‍♀️
The Cat's Meow said…
The Charlatan Duchess has a timeline of Ellen/Portia's summer vacation, and shows how that "meet and feed" of Archie is virtually impossible.
https://the-charlatan-duchess.tumblr.com/post/187612426979/what-i-did-on-my-summer-vacation
Hikari said…
If Ellen had an 'authentic image' before this, she sure doesn't now. I am never at home during the day to watch her show but I certainly never will watch now.

Maybe the American public has to organize a viewing boycott of any celebrities represented by Sunshine Sachs. If money talks, we need to vote with our entertainment dollars and time.
Girl with a Hat said…
I think that they were able to charge him again because they are using different victims and federal crimes this time.
Hikari said…
Andrew needs distractions from his mess, to be sure, but I don't see how 'hiring' Meg to create havoc within the RF and ruin his nephew's life and reputation insulates Andrew. Quite the opposite--the antics of the Dumbarton Duo are shining a klieg light on the conduct and practices of the royals in general, and causing people to question why the entire structure of unearned favor and privilege based on random birth is allowed to continue.

The better way to create diversion from Andrew's peccadilloes would have been to find an impeccable bride for Harry, the nation's favorite, someone without seamy Epstein connections and agendas . . someone who could have fit in seamlessly to the 'Fab Four' and would have been an asset to the young royals set. If Markle is as covered in sh*t as Andrew himself, how in the world was she supposed to sanitize his reputation?

Girl with a Hat said…
this article talks about Meghan demonstrating narcissistic behaviour:

https://www.ibtimes.com/meghan-markle-showing-these-shocking-signs-confirm-narcissistic-behavior-2823909
Royal Fan said…
Yup I’m done with Ellen forever now! I found her show previously mildly amusing and she has this “just washed myself and arrived homey look” that makes you think she’s down to earth. Apparently, she sold out long ago!!
Ava C said…
I wonder if there's a rush to get Archie on a royal tour as early as possible, so he can be easily obscured to the max. Then, tour ticked off, they can hide him away indefinitely. Even another couple of months' delay would be tricky. George was 9 months old when he was on the Australian tour and his appearances were few, but he made an indelible impression (I loved the reception for toddlers). I expect H&M's ideal time for Archie touring would be no later than the Ruritanian-style Windsor unveiling, when the media had to crane their necks to see over the shawl. Those that were allowed to be there.
Hikari said…
Here is a more comprehensive listing of NPD traits, and tips for those who are embroiled with a narcissist. What a pity Harry did not see this a couple of years ago.

I reproduce the symptoms list. Meghan is a textbook case. Textbook.

https://www.helpguide.org/articles/mental-disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder.htm
Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder
Grandiose sense of self-importance
Grandiosity is the defining characteristic of narcissism. More than just arrogance or vanity, grandiosity is an unrealistic sense of superiority. Narcissists believe they are unique or “special” and can only be understood by other special people. What’s more, they are too good for anything average or ordinary. They only want to associate and be associated with other high-status people, places, and things.

Narcissists also believe that they’re better than everyone else and expect recognition as such—even when they’ve done nothing to earn it. They will often exaggerate or outright lie about their achievements and talents. And when they talk about work or relationships, all you’ll hear is how much they contribute, how great they are, and how lucky the people in their lives are to have them. They are the undisputed star and everyone else is at best a bit player.

Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur
Since reality doesn’t support their grandiose view of themselves, narcissists live in a fantasy world propped up by distortion, self-deception, and magical thinking. They spin self-glorifying fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, attractiveness, and ideal love that make them feel special and in control. These fantasies protect them from feelings of inner emptiness and shame, so facts and opinions that contradict them are ignored or rationalized away. Anything that threatens to burst the fantasy bubble is met with extreme defensiveness and even rage, so those around the narcissist learn to tread carefully around their denial of reality.

Hikari said…
NPD traits, Part 2 . . .

Needs constant praise and admiration
A narcissist’s sense of superiority is like a balloon that gradually loses air without a steady stream of applause and recognition to keep it inflated. The occasional compliment is not enough. Narcissists need constant food for their ego, so they surround themselves with people who are willing to cater to their obsessive craving for affirmation. These relationships are very one-sided. It’s all about what the admirer can do for the narcissist, never the other way around. And if there is ever an interruption or diminishment in the admirer’s attention and praise, the narcissist treats it as a betrayal.

Sense of entitlement
Because they consider themselves special, narcissists expect favorable treatment as their due. They truly believe that whatever they want, they should get. They also expect the people around them to automatically comply with their every wish and whim. That is their only value. If you don’t anticipate and meet their every need, then you’re useless. And if you have the nerve to defy their will or “selfishly” ask for something in return, prepare yourself for aggression, outrage, or the cold shoulder.

Exploits others without guilt or shame
Narcissists never develop the ability to identify with the feelings of others—to put themselves in other people’s shoes. In other words, they lack empathy. In many ways, they view the people in their lives as objects—there to serve their needs. As a consequence, they don’t think twice about taking advantage of others to achieve their own ends. Sometimes this interpersonal exploitation is malicious, but often it is simply oblivious. Narcissists simply don’t think about how their behavior affects others. And if you point it out, they still won’t truly get it. The only thing they understand is their own needs.

Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others
Narcissists feel threatened whenever they encounter someone who appears to have something they lack—especially those who are confident and popular. They’re also threatened by people who don’t kowtow to them or who challenge them in any way. Their defense mechanism is contempt. The only way to neutralize the threat and prop up their own sagging ego is to put those people down. They may do it in a patronizing or dismissive way as if to demonstrate how little the other person means to them. Or they may go on the attack with insults, name-calling, bullying, and threats to force the other person back into line.

Girl with a Hat said…
excellent information! I have to add that narcissists are envious of everyone and everything. They also cannot feel empathy. Two of their most defining characteristics. I think we can all agree that Meghan has shown these traits sufficiently to be able to attribute narcissism to her.
SwampWoman said…
Considering her track record adopting dogs, I suspect the family were quite right to be alarmed at the prospect of MM and PH adopted a helpless African infant. Good thing that Ellen and Portia were able to meet and feed Archie and make sure that all was well with him, right?

/Yes, it was sarcasm. I am aware that pictorial evidence exists that the meet and feed probably did not happen.
Girl with a Hat said…
Swampie, I agree with you! the talk of having an extra child produced is very disturbing. These people treat children as though they weren't human and only objects to satisfy their ambitions. I find this possibly the worst thing a person can do.
freddie_mac said…
@Lime_Smoothie
If she's flinging dirt like this now, she must be about to get booted out.

Agreed; that blind didn't come from a position of strength -- it reeks of desperation.

@Mischi @SwampWoman
I read the blind as Bea and Eugenie had spent time around the Epstein crowd (he was invited to the older girl's 18th bday), but were not directly involved. As in, Dad's friend was invited to events where the girls were also present.
Hikari said…
Please excuse a brief digression . . .I felt we could use a happy story to wash the taste of filth out of our mouths.

Gavel is a German Shepherd who was kicked out of K-9 training as a police dog because he was 'excessively friendly'. He is now living his best life as the official VRD (Vice-Regal Dog) hospitality ambassador for Government House in Queensland, Australia, where he brings joy to Governor and Mrs. DeJersey and all the VIP guests visiting Government House.

Finally! A politician I can respect!

Perhaps Gavel could give the Dumbarton Duo tips on how to behave appropriately while on official tour the next time they visit Australia.
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https://www.majesticanimals.net/dog-is-too-friendly-and-happy?fbclid=IwAR0W5XlrucOAlmX2gHAyqX9F-3cZ-JIRJgY7y8urCTNPRXzahZiDzlqaCIc
Girl with a Hat said…
some commenter on CDAN said that she had no royal protection officer with her at the tennis, and therefore must be cut off from royal funds. I don't know if this is true or not.
freddie_mac said…
@KayeC, not sure if you were referring to these dots, but per Wikipedia:

"The American Broadcasting Company (ABC) is an American commercial broadcast television network that is a flagship property of Walt Disney Television, a subsidiary of the Disney Media Networks division of The Walt Disney Company."

So, is Disney playing a long game beyond the "donation" they already gave? Makes me wonder what exactly has been promised and what part Meg will play.

EFarrell said…
Thank-you Mishi for this information. I have a lot of experience with NPD as my mother is a classic Narcissist. Meghan exhibits so many of the same traits as my 85 year old mother, it amazes me. It also gives me a little empathy towards Harry as it’s very hard to see what they (Narcissist) is doing. They groom their victims from day one. My father is a classic enabler.
Most, not all narcissist however suffered some sort of trauma or abuse at an impressionable age. I know my mom did. I think Meg’s parents divorce had a profound effect on her. Divorce is difficult for all kids, but the way she processed what went down with the divorce set her up to be a narcissist. She dealt with this pain by turning everything around. Maybe as a kid she felt it was her fault they divorce, so a narcissist rationalizes this kind of hurt as NOTHING IS MY FAULT! It’s a protection mechanism that goes off track to the extreme. Another protection method is deflecting all responsibility and making themselves the victim. Her quote about how “they don’t make it easy” is classic! Meg is a pro at this.
Lying cheating and stealing are common traits as the narc feels entitled to whatever they want. They are above the law and moral authority. Disagreement with a narcissist is not just disagreement, it’s a full frontal assault on their character, their self worth, their everything and how could you possibly say these things and want to hurt me so bad, when I am the only one who loves you.
See what I mean!? It’s seems so obvious, but if you’re caught in a relationship like this, you have been groomed to think you’re always wrong, it’s your fault the narc is unhappy and no matter what you do it’s not right or enough. So Harry’s in a dark place. He will never make her happy because she’s incapable of being happy. I’m not pro Harry but I do think he was an easy target because of his childhood trauma.
Anyway, at the end of life for most Narcs, there is isolation, because they have burned so many bridges and have no family, friends, community that will put up with them. They are old and lost their beauty, which is a prize to a narc like Meghan. Narcissism is almost impossible to treat as they don’t think they’re the problem. EVER. It’s always someone or something else that is the problem. THEY don’t have any problems. They’re perfect and fine. I kind of hope their is no child as children of NPD have a rough road and a lot of work needs to be done to overcome this personality disorder inflicted on them. It can be done though! I always knew something was wrong with my mom even as a small child, but it wasn’t until a few years ago that this clicked with me so profoundly, it was life altering.
Girl with a Hat said…
thank you for that information. I think a lot of people will be able to better identify and prevent narcissistic abuse. If anything, that will be Meghan's positive contribution to mankind.
RCCullen said…
Ellen's show is on NBC, not ABC.
SwampWoman said…
I find it interesting that PA is constantly being attacked for his relationship with Epstein as is Trump (who kicked him out of Mar-A-Lago and reported his suspicions to authorities) yet the who's who in the tech world met with him regularly even after his conviction and "prison" time. There doesn't seem to be the (directed?) outrage against Jeff Bezos or Google or Elon Musk or probably thousands of others who received money/support.

I'll gracefully drape and fold tin foil over my baseball hat, add a little origami and pluck some tail feathers from the peacock to make a fashionable chapeau, place it on my head, and wonder what the connection is and where all the money for subversion came from.
Jen said…
Haha, Hillary Clinton...that's so laughable. Remember folks, her hubby is involved in the Epstein debacle as well. She should have stayed quiet on this....
SwampWoman said…
Awwwwww! What a lovely good boy!
Jen said…
Honestly, since the inception of DNA testing, do you think the BRF has not used it? With the many years of rumors regarding Harry, I'm sure both William AND Harry have been tested and confirmed to be of royal blood.

That CDAN blind was more ridiculous than any other I've seen. It's pretty desperate and pathetic.
Hikari said…
As I suggested in the earlier topic, South Africa should be shelved right now in favor of the Bahamas, a Commonwealth nation whose need is immediate. I don't foresee Meghan rolling up her shirtsleeves and pitching in with relief efforts, and certainly it's no place for a 'four month old infant' at the moment, but . . If Harry really wanted to rehabilitate his reputation, he'd go there and do some real, honest labor to help the people of Bahamas. Can't he harness his high profile to engage others of the celebs he'd like so much to cultivate to come help him? Where are the likes of Leo DiCaprio & all the other barefoot eco warriors of Google summit? I don't hear them clamoring to volunteer their private jets to bring supplies to Bahamians, or pledging to participate in clean-up efforts themselves. Surely the carbon footprint can be excused on a humanitarian mission?

This involves real work, though, and sacrifice, both financial and physical. The need is great in the Bahamas . . this is Katrina all over again. Time for the 1% to start putting their money where their big fat mouths are.
MeliticusBee said…
I don't know what Ellen is getting out of this...but she doesn't even like children does she? Isn't that why her "marriage" was supposedly collapsing because Portia wanted kids and Ellen hates them enough that she is even mean to the neighbor kids (Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis's children). Nevermind that she is 60 and Portia is 48.
Jen said…
haha Bacon, I like your name. :) You are absolutely right about the problems that their "celebrity" could have done much to help with. There are SO many things they could have done. It's rather sad, really.
Jen said…
@Swampwoman, or Billy Clinton........you don't hear his name related to Epstein as much any more even though there are HUGE links between the two, including photos! Since that weird photo was released (of Bill Clinton in the blue dress and red heels), you don't hear much about their relationship.

There are a LOT of people connected to Epstein. I don't think we've even barely begun to learn the truth. Just shows how disgusting of a world we truly live in.
Girl with a Hat said…
this is a deliciously nasty article on the Sussexes. No new info but this is interesting:

The upshot of the summer of discontent with the House of Sussex is that the sun now shines brightly on the House of Cambridge. The rumored affair, or possibly heavy flirtation, between Prince William and the Marchioness of Cholmondeley has been a non-subject amongst Norfolk society this summer. Whatever it was, or wasn’t, it’s over. They say he’s too dull, which is not a bad thing in a king but tiresome in a lover. The Marchioness does not seem set to be the Camilla Parker Bowles of this royal generation. When I saw the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge sailing in the King’s Cup at Cowes in August, they were relaxed and fun, with positive body language toward each other.

https://airmail.news/issues/2019-9-7/it-was-a-royal-pain-of-a-week-for
abbyh said…
Thanks Nutty. I didn't put it together (must give credit where I read it - DM commnets).

I did, however, do a quick check on the internet to see where each was supposed to be for those dates.
Hikari said…
I too have prayed (hard) that Meghan does not have custody of a baby, because Narcissists are too broken inside to love or bond with anyone but themselves. A child raised by a narcissistic parent will be profoundly damaged for life. I believe that she engaged a surrogate who had a baby but her plan was foiled when the surrogate kept the child. Prospective adoptive parents (as Meg and Harry would have been according to British law, even for their own genetic issue) are subjected to scrutiny which parents who conceive the natural way are not. There would have been meetings with social workers and doctors and counselors . . multiple people, multiple meetings. My sister adopted 5 children through the foster care system & she and her husband were scrutinized like they were applying for top-level government clearance--both parents are interviewed exhaustively for temperament and have to fill out tons of paperwork, and their home environment and childcare arrangements evaluated multiple times. I don't see how a Narc and a perpetual man-child would have been able to pass the screening process for adoptive parents. Meghan is not skillful enough to hide her NPD for more than a few minutes. Under stress, asked intrusive personal questions and being grilled about her parenting philosophy & childhood experiences . . like if she thought being a child of divorce impacted her attitude toward parenting . . I think Meghan's answers and demeanor would have set off numerous red flags for experienced evaluators.

Based on her puffy appearance 'after' she was supposedly pregnant, she may have been doing a round of fertility drugs to get pregnant herself, but based on her most recent appearance at the US Open, she's given that up.

She looked decidedly pregnant in her post-Archie birth appearance, but I am of the mind that it was intentionally 'styled' (if you could call it that) that way because she thought that's how the postpartum optics should 'look'. A woman who had really and truly just given birth would never wear a WHITE, tightly belted around the middle double-breasted coat dress with half the buttons undone for a TV appearance, and a swollen belly that had shifted sideways.

A real postpartum mother would have chosen something looser and more forgiving and wouldn't have crammed her feet back into the 4-inch stiletto heels. She'd be too sore and off-balance for that entire outfit.
Anonymous said…
This is a rather horrifying (in some ways) site by a self-proclaimed narcissist who is making a fortune out of his narcissism. He has done two analyses of Megs based on his criteria of what constitutes a narcissist; it rings pretty true. These analyses were done months ago when her various masks were still in place, so I would imagine he would have a field day NOW: https://narcsite.com/?s=Meghan.
KayeC said…
@RCCullen, where I live it comes on the ABC network, could be different across the US. But you are right that it was filmed at NBC studios, but is now filmed on the Warner Brothers lot.
HappyDays said…
I saw a photo a few weeks ago, around the time of Epstein’s death, it was Meghan at an Obama reception, I believe at the White House. The photo was a selfie. Looks like it was taken by Meghan. Obama is in the background of the photo, but it is not a photo taken of Meghan and Obama together. She was just getting a photo of herself with him in the background to show she had been at a reception with Obama. The info describing the photo said she was there with some big deal guy who was an Epstein associate, so there’s the connection. She might have even been there with the guy as a paid escort. So there could be an Epstein connection if the info with the photo is accurate. If I see it again. I will note the URL.
HappyDays said…
Hikari and WizardWench: As soon as I saw the engagement interview, I had a strong suspicion that Harry had fallen into the grip of a woman with NPD. By the wedding, I was sure it was NPD. By now, I am sure that Meghan is severely affected by NPD. This marriage will either be a massive train wreck ending is a spectacularly nasty divorce or Harry will remain under her thumb for years, possibly a lifetime as she exploits him, Archie, and any other children they may have, for her own benefit. BTW: I think they will get around the only having two kids statement by having IVF twins next time.
Nutty Flavor said…
Big difference between media that takes paid placements (People, Harper’s Bazaar, etc.) and quality media that is written solely for the delight of its readers. Airmail is Graydon Carter’s new project, and it reads more like his first magazine, Spy, than his second, Vanity Fair.
HappyDays said…
There us another article in today’s DM that is likely a plant from SS. It features supportive quotes from Sinead Burke, a Vogue contributing editor, who was one of the women featured on the Vogue cover. Ms. Burke is affected by a form of dwarfism and was being used to demonstrate how caring and respectful Meghan is. Burke calls Meghan ‘extraordinary.’

I wonder if Meghan ever offered any similar respect or support to her half sister Samantha after she was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, whose disease has progressed over the years to the point where she is now in a wheelchair.

Nutty Flavor said…
They can’t really take him all the way to Africa and back without at least a couple of clear face shots, and that face had better match the (enormous for 2 months) baby shown in the baptism photos.

If they cover him for the entire journey, even the dumbest members of the public will start to notice that something is off.
HappyDays said…
Typo: First sentence should read ‘There is’ not ‘There us.’
Hikari said…
Here is the second part of the article I posted above, Survival Tips for those entrapped by a Narc.

I don't think there is any value or future in trying to maintain a relationship with a Narcissist. There is literally NOTHING in such a connection for a normal person. They are there to prop up the Narc's ego and sense of entitlement and to be used like an object until they are no longer useful. Harry will never have peace of mind again as long as he stays with her. And neither will we.
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Don’t fall for the fantasy
Narcissists can be very magnetic and charming. They are very good at creating a fantastical, flattering self-image that draw us in. We’re attracted to their apparent confidence and lofty dreams—and the shakier our own self-esteem, the more seductive the allure. It’s easy to get caught up in their web, thinking that they will fulfill our longing to feel more important, more alive. But it’s just a fantasy, and a costly one at that.

Your needs won’t be fulfilled (or even recognized). It’s important to remember that narcissists aren’t looking for partners; they’re looking for obedient admirers. Your sole value to the narcissist is as someone who can tell them how great they are to prop up their insatiable ego. Your desires and feelings don’t count.

Look at the way the narcissist treats others. If the narcissist lies, manipulates, hurts, and disrespects others, he or she will eventually treat you the same way. Don’t fall for the fantasy that you’re different and will be spared.

Take off the rose-colored glasses. It’s important to see the narcissist in your life for who they really are, not who you want them to be. Stop making excuses for bad behavior or minimizing the hurt it’s causing you. Denial will not make it go away. The reality is that narcissists are very resistant to change, so the true question you must ask yourself is whether you can live like this indefinitely.

Focus on your own dreams. Instead of losing yourself in the narcissist’s delusions, focus on the things you want for yourself. What do you want to change in your life? What gifts would you like to develop? What fantasies do you need to give up in order to create a more fulfilling reality?

Hikari said…
Set healthy boundaries
Healthy relationships are based on mutual respect and caring. But narcissists aren’t capable of true reciprocity in their relationships. It isn’t just that they’re not willing; they truly aren’t able. They don’t see you. They don’t hear you. They don’t recognize you as someone who exists outside of their own needs. Because of this, narcissists regularly violate the boundaries of others. What’s more, they do so with an absolute sense of entitlement.

Let go of the need for approval. It’s important to detach from the narcissist’s opinion and any desire to please or appease them at the expense of yourself. You need to be okay with knowing the truth about yourself, even if the narcissist sees the situation differently.

Look for support and purpose elsewhere
If you’re going to stay in a relationship with a narcissist, be honest with yourself about what you can—and can’t—expect. A narcissist isn’t going to change into someone who truly values you, so you’ll need to look elsewhere for emotional support and personal fulfillment.

Learn what healthy relationships look and feel like. If you come from a narcissistic family, you may not have a very good sense of what a healthy give-and-take relationship is. The narcissistic pattern of dysfunction may feel comfortable to you. Just remind yourself that as familiar as it feels, it also makes you feel bad. In a reciprocal relationship, you will feel respected, listened to, and free to be yourself.

Hikari said…
Spend time with people who give you an honest reflection of who you are. In order to maintain perspective and avoid buying into the narcissist’s distortions, it’s important to spend time with people who know you as you really are and validate your thoughts and feelings.

Make new friendships, if necessary, outside the narcissist’s orbit. Some narcissists isolate the people in their lives in order to better control them. If this is your situation, you’ll need to invest time into rebuilding lapsed friendships or cultivating new relationships.

Look for meaning and purpose in work, volunteering, and hobbies. Instead of looking to the narcissist to make you feel good about yourself, pursue meaningful activities that make use of your talents and allow you to contribute.


Hikari said…
Narcissists think nothing of going through or borrowing your possessions without asking, snooping through your mail and personal correspondence, eavesdropping on conversations, barging in without an invitation, stealing your ideas, and giving you unwanted opinions and advice. They may even tell you what to think and feel. It’s important to recognize these violations for what they are, so you can begin to create healthier boundaries where your needs are respected.

Make a plan. If you have a long-standing pattern of letting others violate your boundaries, it’s not easy to take back control. Set yourself up for success by carefully considering your goals and the potential obstacles. What are the most important changes you hope to achieve? Is there anything you’ve tried in the past with the narcissist that worked? Anything that hasn’t? What is the balance of power between you and how will that impact your plan? How will you enforce your new boundaries? Answering these questions will help you evaluate your options and develop a realistic plan.

Consider a gentle approach. If preserving your relationship with the narcissist is important to you, you will have to tread softly. By pointing out their hurtful or dysfunctional behavior, you are damaging their self-image of perfection. Try to deliver your message calmly, respectfully, and as gently as possible. Focus on how their behavior makes you feel, rather than on their motivations and intentions. If they respond with anger and defensiveness, try to remain calm. Walk away if need be and revisit the conversation later.

Don’t set a boundary unless you’re willing to keep it. You can count on the narcissist to rebel against new boundaries and test your limits, so be prepared. Follow up with any consequences specified. If you back down, you’re sending the message that you don’t need to be taken seriously.

Be prepared for other changes in the relationship. The narcissist will feel threatened and upset by your attempts to take control of your life. They are used to calling the shots. To compensate, they may step up their demands in other aspects of the relationship, distance themselves to punish you, or attempt to manipulate or charm you into giving up the new boundaries. It’s up to you to stand firm.

Don’t take things personally
To protect themselves from feelings of inferiority and shame, narcissists must always deny their shortcomings, cruelties, and mistakes. Often, they will do so by projecting their own faults on to others. It’s very upsetting to get blamed for something that’s not your fault or be characterized with negative traits you don’t possess. But as difficult as it may be, try not to take it personally. It really isn’t about you.

Don’t buy into the narcissist’s version of who you are. Narcissists don’t live in reality, and that includes their views of other people. Don’t let their shame and blame game undermine your self-esteem. Refuse to accept undeserved responsibility, blame, or criticism. That negativity is the narcissist’s to keep.

Don’t argue with a narcissist. When attacked, the natural instinct is to defend yourself and prove the narcissist wrong. But no matter how rational you are or how sound your argument, he or she is unlikely to hear you. And arguing the point may escalate the situation in a very unpleasant way. Don’t waste your breath. Simply tell the narcissist you disagree with their assessment, then move on.

Know yourself. The best defense against the insults and projections of the narcissist is a strong sense of self. When you know your own strengths and weaknesses, it’s easier to reject any unfair criticisms leveled against you.

Nutty Flavor said…
It’s syndicated. Local stations buy rights to it, whether they are ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, or something else entirely.
punkinseed said…
Archie's being made to be as obscure as North Korean dictators' kids. Always hidden away incognito.
SwampWoman said…
Hikari, that is the craziest part. There is an absolutely devastated Commonwealth nation a couple hours off the coast of Florida with most of the housing destroyed and likely thousands of dead covered by debris, and you hear *crickets* from the faux humanitarians.
SwampWoman said…
@RoyalFan, I was thinking Jennifer Garner, too.
jathomps said…
This is random but I came across this little tidbit of info on CDAN in the comment section today of a blind item that had nothing to do with the royals. Someone posted that Harry was on a hunting trip in Germany via private plane while Megs was at the US open. So where was Fauxarchie? Who knows if there is any truth but the poster asked if Sunshine Sachs paid Enty not to mention it.
SwampWoman said…
@HappyDays Interesting that Obama had not yet made that Netflix deal worth millions of dollars for producing unspecified programs through their production company despite having no experience or backgrounds in such except for Malia interning with Weinstein. It sounds like the perfect spot for MM's acting talents.
SwampWoman said…
Indeed. Were I a male, I'd want that DNA test done before I took any financial responsibility for an infant.
HappyDays said…
Hi SwampWoman: Perhaps they could do a british remake of The Wizard of Oz with Meghan playing the Wicked Witch of the West. That is, pthe West as in Los Angeles, to be specific.
Mailcrate said…
Hikari that was truly helpful, thank you ever so much.
HappyDays said…
Jathomps: I believe Harry has traveled to Germany in the past, as recently as the last year or two, in autumn to hunt wild boars. Not surprised he’s there again. Darren would do fine by himself.
punkinseed said…
I am widow of a narcissist, married 40 years. If I had any knowledge of any of what you've posted here Hikari, back when I first met him, I'd have been able to ghost him. Please anyone, if you see any of these traits, save yourself, RUN. Make a super smart exit. Follow what is advised by counselors at women's groups and shelters. Safety first.
I'm still in awe that I managed to survive. I think it's partly because my ignorance sheltered me somewhat, and also because he wasn't a full blown NPD all of the time. His behavior waxed and waned and could be dormant for some time. Also I think I survived because my family owned a bar so I basically grew up on a bar stool, so to speak. I learned from a young age to never argue with a drunk. Same goes for Narcissists.
Thank you for posting this Hikari. Hopefully it will save those who feel stuck, or those who are enablers to realize the signs and wake up.
Girl with a Hat said…
there was a story recently about him going to some sort of meeting in Berlin where he was reportedly paid $1 million to attend. During the last stages of her pregnancy or shortly after she supposedly delivered.
Mailcrate said…
The Cat's Meow: The timeline allows for them to have met for lunch. It's dissected a bit more a few posts down.
EFarrell said…
Hikari, Thanks you again for this info! As mentioned above, maybe Meghan's contribution to mankind will be bringing awareness of this insidious personality disorder to the world. Since they can't really be treated, society as a whole would be very wise in developing an understanding about this personality types.
Great advice and tips for anyone embroiled in a relationship with a narcissist. If I may be so bold as to add a few tips I have learned. You never know who this may help...Maybe Harry is secretly reading! ;)
1. Employee the 'gray rock' system. Gray rock means, being as boring and dull as a gray rock when communicating to the narc. Never give ANY information to them as anything and everything you say will and can be used at a later date against you.
If the narcissist in your life asks how you are, it's not because they care, its because they need that information.
2. If you deprive the narc of their fix, things will usually get worse, before they get better. They will pull out all the stops to get their drug of choice, (attention), much like an addict. They will use guilt, shame, smearing, threats, withholding of love and affection. They will employee their 'flying monkeys' to unleash goad you into behaving. I often think of Meg's People Magazine article with the 5 un-named friends....those friends are 'flying monkeys' to the max! The celebs who are speaking out for her are different in that their support is transactional. They're going to get something out of it. What it is, is a mystery but it's there. I will say, the ramping up of Meg's stories could be her acting out or it could be the PR countering. We shall see.
3. The best way to deal with a narcissist is to go NO CONTACT....fully cut them out of every aspect of your life. Block their calls, move away, delete all social media, etc. However this is impossible for some especially like Harry who will have to deal with her the rest of his life, especially if there really is a child. Hopefully he will have a 'come to Jesus' moment, like I did with my mom and my best friend of many years and only speak to her through his lawyers.
4. Narcs make even decent people angry and horrified. The way William, who by all accounts is a decent fellow, 'scarfed' Meghan, is a perfect example. William always presents with impeccable manners, at least in public, and his treatment of Meghan is a direct result of his absolutely horror that this woman is even allowed in his presence. Its not a royal thing. It's a normal human thing. We all come across assholes, but on occasion when a really wretched and obviously wretched person makes their way across our path, it can bring out the worst in us. William saw her from the get-go and it made her even more determined to have Harry.
This really is better than Shakespeare! Oh, if only he was here to write about it!
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Hikari said…
It has been mentioned by various former friends or ghosted family members speaking about Meghan that she 'changed' for the worse after achieving modest success on Suits. That's when she dumped her first (or second, depending on what you subscribe to) husband Trevor and starting ghosting friends.

I submit that Narcissism doesn't change or 'become' . . it is always there and may only lie dormant in its worst forms for a while. It was in Meg's interest to stay sweet on the surface and faux-adoring of her husband whom she was counting on to get her big fat movie roles. When he turned out to be disappointing and she'd made some success happen for herself, he was immediately deemed obsolete. Same with Cory Vitiello, whom she glommed onto as part of the Soho House crowd until she could work that connection into something bigger. Cory introduced her to Harry, or rather, being Cory's GF put her in Harry's orbit at the Invictus dinner and within weeks, Cory was history.

When I watched the Nickelodeon interview with 12-year-old Meghan, I looked for signs of the baby narcissist. Because she bears zero resemblance now to her childhood self, and as a kid came across as sweet-voiced and very articulate for a 12 year old, and was featured with 2 other little girls who didn't recoil from her, though Meg was in the center and was the featured speaker . . it was hard to tell. But then I saw a GIF from this interview on Charlatan Duchess which made my blood run cold. This 1 second snippet captures Meg wrinkling her eyebrows and lifting her lip in a micro-sneer ala Elvis--Little Miss has obviously heard something she does not like or the presenter is asking another student something and taking the focus off Meg. Her eyes in that moment--stone cold dead. She looks like the bad seed child in horror movies that kills another kid's pet and leaves it on the doorstep.

I said, "Oh, Hello, Meghan . . there you are."

We can argue til the cows come home if it's nature or nurture that creates sociopaths . . . she was a sweet-faced little baby. But by the time of this interview, at 12, her family dysfunction had been ongoing for some time and she'd had 12 years of being the apple of her parents' eye. Thomas overindulged his little princess to be sure, but there's a far way to go from being merely spoiled by your father to expecting the entire world to revolve around you as your right. It takes more than parental favoritism to create a sociopath. I think Meg came out this way. It'd be instructive to hear stories of preschooler Meghan, early elementary Meghan. I think the Narc has always been there.
So agree, as Murky possesses narcissistic traits etc., being kind and empathetic towards others, family or not, isn’t going to happen. How she’s treated her family says so much about who she is, let alone how she’s treated her friends etc.
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Royal Fan said…
Surely we didn’t think PH was watching the little guy all by his lonesome self! If he exists, he’s either with the RF or he’s still with his surrogate and never going to join the RF. I still can’t tell what’s going on.
Mailcrate said…
Yes EFarrell exactly! Those four points are gold.
Excellent comments Hikari, narcissists aren’t easy to spot, I’ve known two, but managed to spot what the second one was about pretty soon. Getting rid of them is easier said than done though ..,simply ignoring them and cutting them off, doesn't necessarily mean they’ll not cause immense trouble for you, and leave you alone. It takes strength etc., to switch off from the fallout.
Hikari said…
This is Re. the self-identified 'psychopathic narcissist' calling himself 'HG Tudor' who writes the Narcsite, including several entertaining entries on 'A Very Royal Narcissist'.

Mr. Tudor is very knowledgeable about what he calls 'his kind' . . referring to narcissism as 'the Dark Arts' and sounding very like the Vampire Lestat as he revels in being his own Dark Self. He also says the blog is more or less 'homework'--an outlet arising from 'treatment which has been forced upon me.' For this and other reasons, I have my doubts that Mr. Tudor is actually a practicing Narcissist. I think he is a person with significant training in personality disorders . . perhaps a therapist, or one who studied aberrant psychology in depth, either for a therapeutic purpose or because he is an aspiring novelist. His entries are lush and detailed and seductively dark, like Anne Rice at her best.

Actual Narcissists struggle with being as persuasive in the written word as they can achieve in nonverbal means in person. Consider whether our two leading Narcissists of today: RMM and Donald Trump are in any way adept at persuasive and absorbing written communication like our Mr. Tudor here. We have endless proofs that they are not. Writing well and captivating an audience with words requires several things: 1. Planning--What am I going to say and how am I going to get there? 2. Imaginative Empathy--how is my audience going to respond to my words? 3, Patience--for editing and fact checking/proofreading, to make one's text the best it can be. Consider the POTUS Tweets and the slipshod errors of fact/spelling on Sussex Royal. No evidence of a patient craftsman in either case.

Hikari said…
What argues against Mr. Tudor being a genuine Narc, vs. someone who has studied Narcs in depth and knows how they operate is his profound level of self-awareness. A real Narc does not have this level of insight into his/her own wiring . . they've got zero patience for analysis and self-reflection because they know better than anyone that there's nothing in there to reflect upon . . that's why all their focus turns outward to the adulation of others. Also, to admit publicly to a personality disorder requiring 'treatment' would be avoided at all costs . . Narcs must believe that the facade they present to the world is perfect, even when it so very, very obviously isn't. In the Narco fantasy world, they are pulling every scheme off brilliantly.

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I write extensively about what this means and what I am. I have practised this dark art for many years, I have honed and crafted my abilities. I am aware of what I am and I am engaged in understanding why I am this way and why I act as I do. I am sharing these ongoing revelations.

I know my kind in considerable detail. I have several family members who are narcissists and have engaged with numerous in my life. I know the way my kind think, why we act as we do, say what we say and so much more. I understand why we target our victims and how we go about it. I comprehend why our victims think and act as they do. I have had many, watched many and listened to many. This allows me to build a formidable body of knowledge about not only my kind, but the people we engage with.

I am currently engaged in treatment which has been forced upon me. As part of this treatment and because I enjoy writing, I have been encouraged to share my knowledge. This is to engender a greater awareness of what I am on my part and also to allow the world an unrivalled view of the mind and actions of a narcissistic sociopath.

I do this because I like to write. I like to interact with people. I want to be the number one source for the reality of how my kind think and behave. I also find the weaponising of empaths and having them go into battle with my kind entirely in accordance with my worldview.

I do not do this for fuel. I do gain some fuel from the comments but since those who comment are tertiary sources (see the book Fuel for more) it is not significant. I gain far more fuel in my interactions in my private life.

I am direct. I do not speak in scientific terms. I welcome enquiring minds and those who want answers. I will give them to you.
abbyh said…
Would it make sense for them, after being in London for a day, then several days in the Netherlands and then coming back through London airport, travel to into the city for a couple of hours to meet up for lunch at SoHo or some place and then go back to the airport to fly back to LA to be there on the 13th?

Wouldn't it have made more sense to end up in London, not start there?

Apparently she was in the US for the 17 to 22.
Hikari said…
P.S. There are a number of easily correctable errors in Tudor's writings . . he refers repeatedly to Trevor Engleson as "Engleton" and RMM's alma mater (alleged) as 'North West University'. Such careless errors are made by Narcs, but the presence of these alone does not prove narcissism. He may have stuck those in on purpose as part of his irritating persona.

I highly doubt a real Narc would out himself thusly, even if this website makes money. Meg is far more in character to pretend to be a global humanitarian and virtue-signal for her promotional tactics.
Jdubya said…
Wouldn't it be something if someone proved Harry went hunting in Germany while Megs was at US Open ?

And that 1 or both flew private?
Anonymous said…
I don't see him as an oracle for narcissism by any means. In fact, I don't believe for one minute that it's written by one person and one person alone. It seems to be quite a cottage industry for this fellow(s). He even has a YouTube with a melodious Oxbridge accent. I recently wrote a book about a very public figure as a protagonist. After considerable biographical research, I now believe they were a flaming narcissist (not Trump!). In order to understand this person's seemingly self-destructive behavior, it had me jumping feet first into what categorizes classical narcissistic behavior. I only discovered Tudor's site recently in another bid to find out what makes these people tick. Mr. Tudor's and his minions seem to at least have an interesting handle on what is considered "fuel" and how to manipulate others, which seems right up Meghan Markle's wheelhouse. As much as we scream and yell here about how incompetent she is, in fact, she's achieved pretty much what she set out to achieve. Whether she will be able to reap the fruits of her dishonest labor is another matter. But she set out to marry into the BRF, and by god, she did it.
gabes_human said…
Good Afternoon Nutty and Co., first off, let me apologize for going off so abruptly yesterday after I read that blind. The shock really let loose my potty mouth which I try to keep under better governance.

So far as demanding DNA testing before paying child support, in most jurisdictions the husband is the presumed father of any children born in the marriage. In many instances support will be court ordered even if the DNA proves that the husband is not the bio father. If there is indeed a babe then Harry will be on the hook for support until the child reaches his majority and even beyond if the child pursues any higher education. If H and M truly never lived together as husband and wife, well, that’s above my pay grade.
Lime_Smoothie said…
Excellent post on NPD - I had a boss for a few years that ticked every single box. She made a massive mess, lots of staff quit, several law suits against the organisation. Finally, an external audit and subsequent investigation by a professional body proved her undoing, and she was sacked.

It all catches up with them in the end.
gabes_human said…
Mischi, weren’t JE’s initial charges federal? And we’re reduced down to state with a plea deal?
Scandi Sanskrit said…
OMG part of why I keep coming back here to check on the story is because Meghan Markle reminds me of two people I've had the misfortune of meeting in my life.

The first one is a woman who tried/is trying to marry into our family.

And the second is a former employee of my parents.

The first person crashed my birthday party (dressed in the same cut/colour of the outfit I wore in my 2nd most viewed YouTube video) and not only did she make everything about her, she mimicked me actions during my birthday party (creepy and very unsettling). I think she'd been following my family on social media and started behaving/dressed like the women in our family. When my parents met her parents, my mother was disturbed by how different she was from the rest of her family, almost as if she was not raised by them (but rather by our family). Very pushy and got into off-limits parts of our house and even managed to get a joint account very (too) soon after the start of the relationship.

My God, I thought I had it bad and then Meghan ruined a cousin's wedding by making that wedding all about her pregnancy... I was mind-blown (and fearful of what could come if that woman ever managed to marry into my family—perhaps I'm projecting but I can't imagine what William must be feeling right now).

The second person was heart-breaking because in the past, we treated our employees like family and I thought she would be the same. Instead she would lie to my face (and the only time I could find anyone comparable to her was when I learned about Elizabeth Holmes' tendency to lie about small things to her employees at Theranos). This employee at first seemed like a normal staff member... But then you start to notice how 'off' she is (she was cruel when she didn't get what she wanted, would boss me around despite being employed by us, manipulated me into doing what she wanted me to do for her through lies, threw tantrums, lacked self-control, overly dramatic (told lies to me and about me), couldn't handle delayed-gratification—just all around unprofessional and stole).

After I got to know her a little longer, I realised her offness was that she seemed like AI (like for instance her kindness was all "learned" just like artificial intelligence, if that makes sense—as if she learned in life that she could meet a goal/get what she wanted by acting a certain way (eventually figured out her pattern: basically she would 'give a little' in a demonstrative manner anytime she 'took/stole a lot' behind our backs). It was almost as though she wasn't even a feeling human being.

Meghan Markle right now reminds that employee toward the end of her 4-month stint working with us... She would brazenly steal because she thought she kept getting away with it (or maybe she already had an inkling that she would be fired sooner or later and stole as much as she could while she could).

I know it's a weird thing to feel about a former employee, but I'm heartbroken and I feel betrayed.

Meghan Markle I swear is probably the same way.
gabes_human said…
Punkinseed, I’m ever so happy to hear that there is hope for a real life after one with a narc. I’m three years out of a 17 year relationship with one and after a complete nervous collapse after being brutally discarded with no warning, I’m still sorting things out. My narc was a highly respected university prof. What so many don’t understand is that the narc is so perfectly charming to the outside world so that if their victim d’ annus ever DID try to tattle, no one believes them. They know how to choose their victim so well that after many years of appearing the perfect couple and the empath sending out glowing, loved up signals, being so indulged financially that the credibility of the discarded one is nil.
gabes_human said…
I need a chuckle-wouldn’t it be a trip if a housekeeper of staff member walked into wherever one or both of them are living in their absence and found silicone Archie tossed on the floor?
Avery said…
He kinda has to say that to stop from being sued.
Hikari said…
Yes, she did . . with a lot of help along the way from willing collaborators who might have considered themselves friends but who became victims after she discarded them. I'm not sure that any of the Soho House crowd that basically arranged this marriage by introducing Megs to Harry and helping her travel 'round the world and gate-crash events he attended and stalk him for the last 3-4 years . . quite a while before their actual introduction . . actually have souls either, or any concept of what normal folks consider friendship. Having a buddy/contact from inside the Royal family--and they targeted the weakest link, the known drug user/party boy . . the one who would be most amenable to doing them favors or most likely to be in their debt owing to aforementioned party lifestyle--would be useful to Markus Anderson and his cohort. I envision 'The Bagging of Harry' as a sinister variation on the 'Pygmalian/Clueless/Pretty Woman' plot. Ambitious but over-her-head interloper gets styled to pass as a 'princess' to nab her unsuspecting target, a guy who's part of the world she aspires to, to grab all the goodies she can. Being impatient, the edges were still too rough to fool anyone other than the target, who was none-too-picky . . horny and pissed off at his family. Meg did not woo Harry by herself; it was more of a project-by-committee. One wonders if her Soho friends will have her back when the RF throws her to the curb. This little project must be deemed a failure if she couldn't even last the course for 2 years. So far all the Soho House crowd has seen is one phantom commission for Fraudmore by whatshername, the Soho House interior designer . . and a magazine issue that bombed so bad, its stench is detectable from the other side of the Atlantic.

Meg was a bad investment . .but yes, she achieved her objective which she has been pursuing singlemindedly since she was a preteen . . to be a princess, by whatever means. Her campaign is admirable (if terrifying) in its relentlessness. But now having won the prize & finding it not what she thought, Smegs has no guidemap for how to behave or proceed. It's a case of 'Be careful what you wish for . . ' Her post-Harry life isn't going to match up to her fantasies, either.
Royal Fan said…
It’s pretty obvious that she flew private and lied about the commercial flights. Nobody saw her in any airport anywhere? No body saw her on a plane? I mean it’s an 8 hour plus Atlantic crossing. Not like folks didn’t have time to notice like with W&Ks puddle jump to Scotland. So either she’s been here in the US for some time now or she flew private. I’m of the opinion that PH kicked her out and she’s staying with Misha Nonoo. I don’t think she’ll be on the African tour either. They’ll say it’s not safe. Truth is she’s out of the RF. Archie won’t be there either. They’ll say for safety too.
Royal Fan said…
Whoa! I was not aware she stalked PH for 3-4 years through SoHo house!
Mailcrate said…
@abbyh: If you are right that Ellen was back in the states by Aug. 17 then yes the only time they could have met would have been on Aug. 12.
Girl with a Hat said…
Serena Williams held a fashion show in NYC for her clothing line on Tuesday. Meghan Markle was apparently not invited since she wasn't there.
hunter said…
Enty will post blinds he receives without validating much about them. Content on CDAN should be known to be part Enty's sources, part write-in anonymous blinds, of which Meghan's would be one.

His low page disclaimer covers all the wrong ones. I've sent in a blind myself and he posted it so I don't see why he wouldn't post one from anyone else.
Nutty.

While.we are in the subject of (SS led) PR and pro-MM articles, here's the latest one I got today...

https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/culture/a28962616/serena-williams-husband-alexis-ohanian/

It talked about how Alexis Ohanian is Serena's biggest supporter, the man behind the legendary women. It lists the 10 ways he has been her biggest supporter and you know what the 1 st point on the list is?? Point 1 states that he supports serene by supporting her friendship with Meghan Markle. (And that Serena is 'full of glee' he became best friends with Mm)

Its a little eyerolling that THAT should have to be listed, let alone be the first pint listed. I would like to believe that raising their infant daughter while she was training to return to the game would be top of the list. Or that he is present at every single practice session, every single game, bussiness event of hers could also be on the top.

Makes me think that

1. It's a joint marketing strategy, throw in a pro-serena article as a pay off. (We know by now that Elle.com is doing 1 article a day for MM)

2. It's to counter the optics of the picture of MM hugging Alexis at the US open, where MM was staring right at the camera.

3. It's covert PR, where MM is being inserted into the narrative ever so slightly, so while they seem to be other celebrities, they are actually building up MMs brand.
SwampWoman said…
It is so not right to require a man to support a child that is not his because his wife cheated in a marriage. It should be 100% her financial responsibility unless she can ID the real father. Marriage is a very bad deal for the man.
Fifi LaRue said…
Hikari, thank you for your thoughtful posts. Here's what I found on the Washington Post about NCP in a nutshell:

Verbal Abuse
Constant blaming
Hypercritical
Shaming
Public Ridicule
Physical battering.


EFarrell said…
Interesting writing. Mr Tudor could be the result of having a narcissistic parent. Often times people raised by Narcs exhibit strong narcissist tendencies themselves. They’re referred to as narcissistic fleas. I know for myself, I struggled with a lack of empathy, focus on appearance and inability to focus on details, like in my writing! Much like our Meghan, Trump & Mr Tudor. My self awareness however is what saved me. Therapists have assured me over the years that my fear of being like my mom disqualified me for the disorder.
Nauta said…
I also wanted to say, as EFarrel has, that one good thing that Markle has done is to introduce Personality Disorders to the wider public. There are a lot of people with personality disorders around and many are covert and not as obvious as an overt one like Markle. It is like a psychological form of Munchausens by proxy and those people should not be allowed to have children or pets or be in positions of authority.
For anyone interested, Elinor Greenberg is a psychologist who writes on Quora in an easy to understand way about Narcissism.
My favourite author on the subject is James F. Masterson, he is quite technical, one of his books which is easy to understand is The Search for the Real Self. He has one interview on YouTube.
My mother is a covert narcissist and growing up with her was literally hell on earth.
Nutty Flavor said…
Thanks for this. It would be interesting to know if Sunshine Sachs has, in fact, been fired - they never confirm their client list, so it's hard to tell - and if they have, if all of this placement was arranged before they were fired.

The article makes Alexis sound like a classic stay-at-home partner who focuses on the other partner's success.
Nutty Flavor said…
Was this the meeting you were thinking about, Mischi? It was in March 2019.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-royals-germany/prince-harry-makes-surprise-visit-to-berlin-idUSKCN1QO1DE
Nutty Flavor said…
What they've learned from the outrage over their private flights is apparently not "don't fly private" but instead "do a better job of hiding it when you fly private."
Nutty Flavor said…
Yeah, I've followed Enty for many years. He's not a journalist, and you can tell.

(I'm not even sure he's a lawyer, but that's a story for another day.)

What he's good at is putting online stuff LA showbiz types are talking about but no one else is writing down for a wider audience.

He's not above being used by people trying to push a viewpoint, and sometimes he goes waaaaay off base and is entirely wrong. (His "Fred Astaire was a child molester" story was so wildly incorrect that he actually took it down, something he rarely does).

I think Enty does often get stuff from actual journalists who don't have enough to pin down a story, or haven't gotten the green light from their editors to run with a story.

Sometimes it's because the story is so incredibly offensive (Andrew supposedly offering Beatrice to Middle Eastern rich men to pay off his debts) and sometimes it's because the story simply doesn't hold up and the editor told the reporter to go take a long walk off a short pier.

Enty is hit or miss.
Ava C said…
The DM-reading public continues to be alert to Sunshine trying to change their views and thinking they can get away with it. Comments can be summed up as "Do they think we're stupid?"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7449577/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-Amanda-Eliasch-clearing-wardrobe-inspired-Meghan.html

Well yes, they do. I would find this satisfying and amusing, watching the little guys take down the big PR guys by refusing to play, but fellow posters have reminded me that this is about optics in America, not the UK. I can see that stuff like this could make headway there, especially as the U.S. would not have the sense of betrayal to override. Seeing someone warping a national institution in front of our eyes.

Though I can't see Sunshine turning it around completely. Seems like the mere fact of going there acknowledges you're a tainted brand. Maybe the most that is hoped for is a kind of grudging acceptance by the public and being able to go your own way without too much bother. You'll never be loved, but at least they're not throwing things at you in the street.
Ava C said…
Same thing happened to me, nearly 30 years ago now. I didn't know such people existed and only made sense of it comparatively recently. I lost some of the best years of my life (cliché I know), being alone rather than risk it happening again, but thank goodness the information is out there now, to warn people. And if we were so unluckly as to be caught in the net, we can warn and comfort others now. Even people on the other side of the world who we'll never meet.

I can't imagine what I'd feel like, having survived this period of my life, to be at a mental health charity event laying down a red carpet to Meghan.
@Nutty, you can tell his blog isn’t written by a journalist, it doesn’t come across as professionally written. I read some of the blinds and they seemed way too outlandish. You never know how much of what you’re reading is actually true or made-up, or whether there’s even a grain of truth in it. It’s a pass for me due to that fact.
@Nutty, they will get rumbled soon enough! Lol
marvelousmagda said…
Back in the day, re: paternity - "What was caught in your trap was yours" simply bc the welfare of the child was paramount. Nowadays, with the advent of DNA testing, I do not think that rule of law is still an absolute, and the mother can be required to name the father to receive support or benefits.
Nelo said…
Nutty, pls head over to The Sun and read the piece on Sophie of Wessex. It's a PR piece but what caught my attention are the last paragraphs where Sophie's friend (we know it's Sophie) says Sophie was the first to invite Meghan for tea but quickly realised that they couldn't be friends cos Meghan had her own agenda. Read it and do a post on it.
marvelousmagda said…
Going back to the photos being circulated as the set-up and delivery of PH at the Invictus Games, MM is dressed in two entirely different outfits. So, how could these be the same event? Otherwise, the two man tag team of Doria and Marcus with Smarkles smugging in the rear tagged and bagged a prince. I can almost see Doria's lips moving as she tells PH that "He done her daughter wrong" n he "has to make an honest woman of her" or they are suing for breach of promise, yada, yada. I can think of no other reason for the madame mama to be there and part of the dialog.
TTucker said…
Hi Nutty and everybody, the trip to South Africa may be in support of the British or former British landowners/settlements. I think the present issue is the colonial urbanism still in place and the debate is around redistribution of land. Xenophobia may be the expression but the heart of the problem is ownership of land. In any case, in that context Harry and MM cannot but add fuel to the fire. Best send them to the Bahamas, as Hikari said.
Royal Fan said…
I’ve heard rumors that Archie does indeed exist from a surrogate and that Sophie is raising him. She is a favorite of HM and this keeps lens off of W&K and the paps don’t follow Sophie as much. Notice how she was left out of the enty blind. It’s the one optic the RF clearly still has control over which leads me to believe they have possession of him. If MM is trying to create some kind of wholesome lifestyle brand, she can’t be seen telling that big a fib. I mean what would she say “Oh sorry I faked a pregnancy to get you to think I’m some wholesome chit so you’ll buy my stuff”. I just still can’t see The Queen allowing photos of herself to float around with a doll. I just can’t buy into it. I think it’s a surrogate child of non-royal parentage that will be raised by Sophie.
Ava C said…
Also worth looking at the photos with article. There's one in particular of the Queen looking at Sophie (who's in navy) with sheer unforced pleasure in her company. Can't remember her the last time I saw her looking that relaxed and happy in a photo. We've long heard that they spend a lot of time together. There's also a recap on how much work Sophie's put into ensuring she was an asset to the BRF. She recognised that her pre-royal professional life had ended and just got with making a success of her new life. She's the one Meghan could have benefitted from studying, so it's a shame it didn't work out. Kudos to Sophie for her clear-eyed recognition of this early on, if this tea-time story is true.
Hikari said…
@Swampie & Trudy,

After I posted my comment, I read an article about the situation in Bahamas. According to a spokesperson, the problem isn't a lack of donations--Supplies are pouring into the country; the problem is that with most of the buildings and infrastructure destroyed and electricity and communications cut off to most of the affected, there is nowhere to effectively store the supplies, transport them to the needy or even get the word out that they are available.

Meanwhile, although the Queen released a statement of support to Bahamians, there seems to be little thought being given to this Commonwealth nation from its former royal overlords. While Dorian was devastating the islands, most of the senior Royals were yukking it up at the Highland Games and the Suxxits were doing whatever they were doing.

There would be a limited amount that Harry could personally do to rectify the situation, but just being a presence as a representative of the Queen and lending his name and profile to highlighting the need there . . and yes, donning some gear and helping to clear debris would not go amiss to repair his self-earned reputation as a douche. He should get inoculated and go. Sending the Suxxits to South Africa now is a very poor move.
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