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Tacky Tweets about Duchess Kate: Meg's PR in action?



How interesting to receive this "promoted Tweet", aka paid advertisement, today September 13.

The date on the Tweet is June 10, and it comes from an account with only 333 followers, managed by someone called "Axe Publications Ltd." A quick Google search turns up no company by that name.

Clearly, the photos have been chosen to make the Duchess of Cambridge look a bit louche. (The article itself is quite tame. Among the facts you didn't know is "she is a skilled athlete" and "she is allergic to horses")

Who would be interested in paying for this three-month-old Tweet featuring 10-year-old images to be promoted right now?

Having worked with Twitter Ads myself, I know that you target specific age groups, genders, and locations. Who is paying to reach European women aged 25-60 and why?

I should add that this article was served to my business account, which intentionally does not follow any Royal-related media.

Meghan's new PR firm Sunshine Sachs is known to play dirty. Is this some of their fine work?


Comments

Argh, ghastly Murky and crew. The titbits of news aren’t new, just like the 10 year of photos as you state. This level of P.R. fluff, I’m not even sure who would take much notice. Unless of course they start to get dirty and this is just the start of something.....

You only have to look at the DM comments etc., to see people aren’t buying the nonsense Murky’s PR peeps are putting out, because commenters are very specific and straight to the point now.

Murky’s lost an awful lot of British public support, and by and large the British media, how long before the American media see through her?
Nelo said…
Lousie500, the launch of the capsule collection yesterday doesn't show that Meghan has lost support in any way. She was on the cover of many British papers today, she received praise from the fashion industry (according to DM) , she was all over US media as well and was getting rave reviews. But the leak of the Prince Andrew story squaring up to the queen's aide by Sun and DM late last night was suspicious. I don't know if the leak is coming from Charles or Andrew himself buy I have the feeling that it was deliberately done on the same day that Meghan was launching her show so that by today, that will be the topic of discussion and Meghan's show would have been forgotten. I may be wrong but that's my theory.
Nutty Flavor said…
Yes, my apologies for not writing about the fashion launch - busy day at work.

Basically, she wore a white shirt and a dark pair of trousers. She looked like the least important person at any business meeting. People with authority individualize their outfits - a shawl? a statement necklace? a colorful sweater? Most women have access to something like this, even from a low-end retailer like Primark.

Also curious that of the SmartWorks women showcased at the launch, most of them were of African heritage. That's a weird statement to make, particularly since Black British citizens are only 3.3% of the population, according to this govenment website. https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-population-by-ethnicity/national-and-regional-populations/population-of-england-and-wales/latest

By contrast, one Smartworks image I saw featured three Black women and one of indeterminate heritage.

I'm always a little suspicioius of people's motives when they try to make people of African heritage look like charity cases. Particularly Meghan's motives.
Nutty Flavor said…
The New York Times wrote a rather snarky piece about Misha Noonoo, who is based in NYC. In particular, they pointed out the conflicting stories about where she and Meg first met.

The article also pointed out that the white shirts that are supposedly part of the collection are only available in the US and through Misha's website.

Nelo said…
I usually side eye Meghan and the over the top adulation of her by Hollywood. At the same time, I love to see things from different perspectives. From my observation, Meghan now has the support of Hollywood and the US media. Despite the report that the queen was hurt by Meghan's snub, it didn't stop , the likes of Ellen, Hillary Clinton etc from supporting her publicly. They didn't seem to care that she 'snubbed' the queen. It also did not stop very good press coverage of her launch yesterday by the British press. Unfortunately, Kate's PR has been pretty much the same narrative of 'she's finding her voice', 'she's preparing to be queen', 'she's now more confident' etc. Kate and Will need a more innovative PR. Their brand is 'boring ,conservative', while H and M is 'youthful and modern'. Last year, KP told us Kate was working on a huge project about the 'children of broken Britain'. Till date, we have heard nothing about it. Besides the garden, she hasn't done any major projects but Meghan has done the cookbook, Vogue and now the capsule collection and will soon do a dog book. It seems Kate is only trying to catch up. If SS is giving Meghan good PR, Kate and Will have the resources to get an even better PR.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Not to derail the thread but I have a question for the British citizens on this blog (the ones who pay taxes anyway lol).

Question:

Now that Markle is involved with a charity that deals with providing underprivileged women with professional clothes to find employment (improving these women's self-esteem/confidence and providing them with the tools they need to perform their duties at the workplace), are you still comfortable with criticising her for the historic amount of money she's spent on wardrobe?

Does her involvement with *this* particular type of charity make you feel uncomfortable criticising her for her own wardrobe expenses since she's "giving back" to women who need clothes to "look appropriate for the job market" (arguably her expenses were for similar purposes, there's an interesting parallel as you can say she's buying all these outfits for official duties/engagements)?

Does it make you feel little guilty inside for criticising her for buying clothes for herself?

Or has this changed nothing for you? (As in you still feel perfectly entitled to complain about how your tax money is being spent. Don't get me wrong, I personally believe you have every right, but I'm asking.)

Just curious what psychological effect this may have on people.











PS: If you're a British tax evader you don't have to answer 😐😂🤣😐😐

PPS: I am not playing Devil's Advocate to troll anybody, I'm asking because as a non-UK/Commonwealth citizen I have to admit I'm swayed and shamed (I'm very easily manipulated and guilt-tripped, and then I get angry & lash out when I fall for it—I should probably have my voting rights revoked due to being such a sucker lol). It's not nice PR, but it's good PR... But did it make a difference for you? Just wondering if the impact is different for an actual taxpayer?

PPPS: Maybe I'm projecting but if this is PR smear, Meghan Markle *seriously* reminds me of a former employee of my parents' during the last weeks before she was fired, tho... This employee bad-mouthed me to other employees (all of whom have known me for years and knew it wasn't true, and passed on what she said to me). Like someone who is dealing with declining job security after having pushed her generous employers too far with her lack of professionalism and series of inappropriate behaviour. As in: I wouldn't be surprised if she is in bad terms with the family she married into.
Nelo said…
Nutty please post a link to the article
Louise said…
Nelo: You sound like Team Sunshine from America, with no understanding of the role of the Monarchy in the UK.

One doesn't have to be a member of the Church of England or a religious believer to know that historically the monarch is chosen by God to reign over us. That is their "brand"..... "Chosen by God".

If that concept is too difficult for you to understand,( since God doesn't have an IG account,) I'll explain it to you with an anecdote from another religion.

Over the past 20-30 years, Bar Mitzvah (the religious coming of age in judaism at age 13) has, in the USA, often become a bit of a circus with "branding" themes like baseball, magic, circus, etc, with some families trying to outdo one another with ostentation, much like Smirkle has tried to do with the RF.

More traditional Jews in the USA (and most Jews elsewhere in the world) however, will tell you that the "theme" of the Bar Mitzvah should be "bar mitzvah", rather than "circus". It might be "boring", but that is what has kept the religion afloat for thousands of years.

And so it is with the Monarchy: The "brand" of the Monarchy is "monarchy"... chosen by God and not by the number of Instagram followers. Twas always thus, and thus it will remain, long after Smirkle has departed and Instagram has been supplanted by another social media trend.

Mom Mobile said…
I was extremely underwhelmed by the Smartworks capsule collection MM designed/curated/collaborated (Which one is it?). I read yesterday that the collection will only be available for 2 weeks. Some may think that will drive demand but I also think it's an insurance policy in case it fails. The idea is that when someone purchases a piece, another will be donated.

What we don't know is, will an identical piece that is just as expensive be donated? Let's say it is, that would lead me to believe the profit margins on each piece are too high. As a consumer I do not care for that model because it comes across that the business entity is using their customer base to increase the perception that they're being philanthropic. In other words, manipulating consumers.

It's very likely that a similar piece that cost less to manufacture is being donated. Either way, there is confusion and lack of transparency that leads me to question what the true story is.

This would have been a great time for MM and her crew to address the production methods for this line. Is it fast fashion? Because if it is, it's going to turn into a huge shit show. Just wait.
Mom Mobile said…
I'd also like to add that it's cool to be boring! Our culture is so messed up. I'm boring as hell and I couldn't be happier. This "Kate is so boring" narrative is complete BS. Are we supposed to think that being a social climbing, shallow, narc automatically makes you interesting and exciting?! LMFAO!

Nothing says "exciting" and "modern" like a good old-fashioned Cluster B personality disorder. Or taking a PR blow torch to the Monarchy. Ha!

I remain insulted by how stupid SS must think we are. F-You Sunshine Sacks!
Mom Mobile said…
And another thing, alleging that Kate is boring is really a slam against her competence and professionalism - and by extension WOMEN!!! Not very "feminist" MM.

Kate's been close to impeccable in her conduct this entire summer. I suppose SS didn't have much to mud to sling at her so they had to go after her contemplative, thoughtful, respectful, and well mannered self.
Louise said…
As a citizen of a Commonwealth country, I don't feel guilty criticizing Smirkle for her excessive spending on clothes, shoes and jewelry, and I don't see how her "curating" a few schmatas would change that.

Is that like saying that if you are wealthy you can wipe out a private jet's carbon emissions by planting a few trees?

Does promoting even more clothing destined for the landfill wipe out all her wasteful spending? Don't forget that the clothing industry is one of the biggest polluters out there...

This project had little to do with Smartworks and everything to do with self promotion. Smarkle mentioned herself 38 times in her speech yesterday and even went so far as to promote her personal Sussex charity at the Smartworks charity event, "shining a light" (to use her favourite expression) on herself and away from the charity that she was there to promote!!
Nelo said…
Louise, I'm no team sunshine from US. I'm a practical observer who knows that the monarchy is trying to stay relevant in the 21st century. The 'chosen by God's brand doesn't hold water anymore and they know it. Charles isn't likely to be a popular amd well loved King. Camilla is neither charismatic nor does she poll well in the popularity polls. Whether we want to accept it or not, Kate and Will are seen as conservative, while H and M are seen as modern. Kate's PR isn't really doing her any favors because by saying she's 'finding her voice', it presupposes that she didn't have a voice. By saying she's becoming more confident, it presupposes that she was timid. Meghan is more PR savvy and she took advantage of the 'workshy', 'timid' Kate who never had a real job, to boost her own image as a 'hardworking modern, confident feminist'. I wish to see better PR from Will and Kate. I need to see better style from both of them. Will and Harry have no style. I wish to see Kate look more chic and stylish and not wear those boring twee clothes.

The monarchy depends on the goodwill and tolerance of the public to survive. The fact remains that we are seeing someone who is doing things her way, who can 'snub' the queen, who is doing things the Hollywood way and no one in the family has been able to reign her in. Meghan has used Andrew's Epstein issue against the Royal family as she knows that whether he is the Queen's favorite or not, if the firm moves against her while Andrew is protected, the monarchy will lose public support.
Mom Mobile said…
One thing that I'd like to mention that might get missed because it was on another thread. My apologies, I'm not sure who brought it to our attention?

There was an article in the Sun about Sophie Wessex and how The Queen enjoys their relationship. It was a complimentary PR piece, however, as one Nutty Reader pointed out, there was a bit at the end about how Sophie tried to give MM some advice and MM wasn't interested.

No surprise there. What sparked my curiosity was the fact that Sophie has a strong PR background. That's the real story, I think. How amazing would it be if she and Lord G were working together. She's definitely a team player who is able to work from the inside.

All the while, keeping her hands clean.
Louise said…
Mom Mobile: I think the other thing that Sunshine does not realize is that the "competition" is actually between Smarkle and Queen Elizabeth, the current and beloved Monarch, and we know who will always win there.

William is at this point third in line; I don't understand the push to compete with him and his wife.. she might as well be competing with Princess Anne.. just a waste of time that proves that Americans do not understand , or care to understand, the British Monarchy and its historical role in the UK and Commonwealth.
Louise said…
Nelo: I really don't understand your focus on Kate. She is the spouse of the third in line to the throne who one day will be the spouse of the King.. However, the Queen is probably good for a few more years, to be followed by Charles, whether you like him or not.

This is not a competition between Kate and Smirkle. It is a line of succession that will not change, even if Smirkle "breaks the internet". If you understand this, then you understand that all Smirkle's work is only self promotion that will do nothing to change the Monarchy.
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Nelo said…
Louise, we know that Meghan is doing this for self promotion. But the question is why is the queen allowing her to use the royal platform to further her personal brand? It's very obvious that she has a hold on Harry and she's using resources and connection from being part of the royal family to achieve her aim. DM said she travelled to watch Serena with two royal protection officers, whereas someone like Sophie of Wessex can only have royal officers when she's on official royal duties. Meghan gets to go around With 24 hours protection. She gets to hire as many staff as she wants. She gets to live a life of immense luxury even when she's snubbing the queen. I understand that Meghan is higher in the pecking order than Sophie but the firm is doing absolutely nothing to strip her of the resources that has made her famous.
CookieShark said…
I find it bizarre that a member of the RF felt the need to hire a PR firm at all, especially SS. Do other RF members work with PR firms? Genuinely asking.

A narcissist feels rage at baseline, and I can imagine someone like Kate would enrage them. Narcissists typically use someone or push them out of the way, but Kate can't be pushed out of the way. Stories about MM often include a dig at Kate, like the press conference after Archie's birth, or not appearing on the cover of Vogue because it would seem "boastful." Someone as PR savvy as Meg would never let such stories go to press, or she would go on the record correcting them immediately.

Because Kate can't be cast aside, the strategy has been to attack her instead. While press about her wasn't always positive, since a certain person joined the RF it has been downright dirty. MM's supporters never miss a chance to attack her as lazy or workshy, although they have an absolute coronary when it is pointed out to them that MM's "work" consists mostly of initiatives that involve her self promotion like the Vogue edit and Smart Works. These projects likely provided her with tremendous ego supply and were promoted and publicized to the hilt.
Nelo said…
Mom Mobile, I was the one who made the post. I've just noticed that Daily Beast has also picked it, though it's behind a paywall so I can't read the entire article. Surprised no other outlet has focused on that aspect. The story seemed to have been buried
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Thanks for answering, Louise.

The parallel s seriously playing mind games with me (and experiencing & understanding my shift of emotions/sentiments toward Meghan is weirding me out a little bit).

I'm not determined to hate her, but she does remind me of some if the worst people to ever touch my family's life & I'm a little shook by the profound effect some little parallel like that can have. If this was a calculated move, I don't appriciate my feelings being played like this!

Eesh.
Louise said…
Veena: I was comparing the staying power of a thousands of year old religion with the staying power of a thousand year old monarchy. And, in my opinion, both originally required an unquestioning belief in God.

In modern times this unquestioning belief has changed for many people, often to a belief in tradition, rather than a belief God itself, but God is at the root of both traditions and both would fall apart if God was taken out of the equation completely and the illogical nature of both institutions was then laid bare.

This argument could apply to any religion. I used the example of Bar Mitzvah because it is a topic of discussion in the Jewish community--- traditional meaning of Bar Mitzvah versus meaningless glitz Bar Mitzvah popular in the USA. Only the former will allow the Jewish religion to survive, and I believe that the same is true of the Monarchy.
Unknown said…
It keeps coming. I've just seen an article in the DM about how Meghan is 'modern' and so like Princess Di because she hugs people but Kate is more 'formal' like William.

Please! She is such a TWAT!

With Princess Diana, she was so well loved by the public, so open that folk felt like she was a friend. She was a sincere and warm woman, and it came across that way. (My own mother wept all day when she heard that Diana had died) I imagine a hug from her would have been like one from your older sister. She listened to people, wanted to know their pain and stories. Her personal life was a bit of a mess but by the Gods, you cannot deny she cared.

Smeghead hugs because of optics, just like the doe eyes, gentle smile and delighted hand clasping. And she is seen as false because she lacks any form of compassion or empathy. You cannot hide that, no matter how much you try to fake it. We like some modernising with our Royals but the British are more stoic and less demonstrative than the Americans. Di managed it because it was real, part of her. Di contributed to a more modern, more accessable monarchy but because she did it in such a organic way, it was welcomed. Smegs forces it and it comes off as fake Hollywood bullshit.

Her little side kick at Kate is laughable. Kate does things in her own way. She is a quiet woman who is not brash or showy. The connection she has with the public is, while different, as real and genuine as Diana's was. She doesn't need to fling her arms around people she has never met in some effort to show she cares. Her dedication to her duties shows. She is regal without being intimidating.

Smegs clearly thinks that by blackening Kate's good name, making her out to be less than she is or somehowlying about her past and forcing her (MM's) narrative that she is so huggy and 'kind' on us, we will somehow decide that we were wrong about her all along. The 'article' you've mentioned is the same thing. The old 'She did stuff too.' defense of every child in the world, deflecting onto a sibling or friend. It doesn't wash with me, Kate could have been swinging from the light fitting in her uni days for all I care, MM too. I had my moments. It is all about how they've acted since coming into the roles.

On one hand we have Kate, she shows her dedication to the responsibilties she has and lives her life as low-key as possible. She clearly has a wonderful relationship with her husband and children. People call her lazy but what they don't realise is that she was preparing for her role, learning away from the public eye to avoid the many, many mistakes Madame Bolshy-Britches has made. She also was taking care of her children. (And after seeing how Harry and Andrew turned out, it might have spurred her on to avoid the same happening to the Cambridge kids! I'm not accusing PA of anything until a court does but I side-eye the hell out of him and he is a fecking mard-arse).

Then we have Meghan who has basically just trampled her way through our beloved RF like a herd of elephants (that she personally, herself fitted with trackers using her loving hands). Has no real knowledge of the country she is now representing or its history. No idea about how the people here are very different from the US. Her agenda shows and it's blatently obvious to anyone with a brain.
Mom Mobile said…
Thanks Nelo. It's the buried stories that are the most interesting. What's left unsaid usually speaks volumes. ;)
NeutralObserver said…
I wish people would learn the difference between 'rein,' 'reign,' and even, 'rain.' The queen might 'rein' someone in during her 'reign,' and she might 'rain' down retaliation for behavior she doesn't approve of. I'm looking at you, nelo. Also, please stop ordering Nutty to post things, it's her blog.
gfbcpa said…
Louise: Excellent points about the current state of Bar Mitzvahs in the U.S. I would like to add that my husband and I used to conduct pre-Cana in our home for engaged couples who were to be married in the Roman Catholic church. These sessions were four in number, about two hours each and comprised three to five engaged couples and two married couples. There was homework and group discussions. We did it twice a year, for ten years. So I had a close-up look at the circuses that weddings have become in the U.S. as well. Brides that come into church wearing gowns that Cher would have worn in the '70's. Laughing and joking around during the vows. The cellphones...the ceremony/mass was just something you had to get through before the party. I stopped asking couples why they wanted to get married in the Church. I knew the answer...because our parents want us to, and they are paying for the wedding.
@Nelo,I don’t have a lot of time to write long comments/replies, so they tend to be either brief or a synopsis of what I’ve read and heard. Other than replying to Nutty’s post about Catherine, my comment was also referring to Murky’s fashion launch which was in my view a PR fluff piece, also, going by the very many comments on the DM showed that people aren’t buying it either, and they too see it as P.R. This therefore isn’t IMO, a bona fide positive article about Meghan. Many of the DM Columnists (and other British newspapers) are now showing a lack of support for Meghan. Further, I buy the printed version of the DM (and other newspapers etc). they have different editors and often have different headlines and contents. Didn’t Nutty report that Meghan wants to win the online media thing, therefore she’s going let SS release articles showing her in a solely positive light, it isn’t like we aren’t bombarded with them already.

As a side note, I wish you’d hit the reply option under each comment you wish to comment on, rather then open a new thread with your reply. It’s hard to follow a conversation thread that’s separated from the original comment.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Good God, I would love for my life to be a little boring. Not *too* dull, but uneventful.

Constant drama is *exhausting* (I know certain personalities get off that kind of thing, and get all fired up/excited, but that drains the hell out of me).

Me talking about public figures here is a good indicator that my life is good because I have energy left for 🍿watching other people's dramas unfold 🍺 (that reflect my own past experience) rather than have to deal with any current/new drama in my own life.

TL;DR > Boring is a good thing (it even rhymes ffs)
Emily said…
After the, I want to break the internet comment came out, it was reported that Meghan had fired SS. Her attacks/smears against William and Kate, especially the kids, has backfired spectacularly. Her ego at the tennis to see Serena was cringeworthy. Constantly looking at the big screen. Lifting her dress up to show her thighs and then those bruises on her knees. You can imagine the comments after seeing those. Tried to talk to Serena's mum but was ignored. Serena's coach didnt want her there, and was labelled a jinx by fans of Serena's. The launch of Smartworks is nothing more than a vanity project. Her PR team having her say she needs to get home as its feeding time for Archie, was funny. Trying to make her motherly, which she isn't. Now that Vogue and Smartworks are done, all that's left is the African tour, which really isnt her cup of tea. After that......
Beth said…
Every time I watch MM speak I cringe and switch off. It started with the engagement interview right through to her speech yesterday. While I admire her public speaking abilities and her confidence, it all seems fake to me and I just can't watch. It's the hypocrisy that gets me. What kind of "feminist" gives up her home, her country, her family and friends, her career, her means of self-support, all for a man who gave up nothing himself, and then complains about losing her "voice" in the system? Also, I resent her constant talk about "empowering women." You want to empower women, Meg? How about putting a stop to the ridiculous curtsying for starters? All women are not "equal" when one has to bow down to another. I am American and could never curtsy to anyone. This is in no way meant to offend anyone who curtsies to the Queen as a sign of respect for her long and dedicated service to her country but respect is earned and MM has proven herself most unworthy.
As I see it, it's a classic case of the Hare and the Tortoise. The Hare, flamboyant, over confident, cock sure MM and the Tortoise is the monarchy.

You wonder how and why the queen would ever allow this... But the fact remains that however she is, she is still family. She may not be much liked by the sane amongst us ,we have been able to see some of her ways ,readh body language and see the death glares she throws Kate, we can also scrutinize her behaviour on these forums...but the immediate family doesnt get to do that. They get to decide from what they know of her personally. And it's my guess that for the first few months she would have been nice. And they gave her a lot of room to get to know her space. In an immediate family, you can't expect the queen or Kate to be snooty and rude to her in her face in the first meeting itself (or even the first few months) no matter what she might have been.

She was given a wife berth. And maybe even now the familys strategy is to let her dig her own grave. It's a classic British attitude towards most things in life. It's imcomprehensible the rest of the world but so it is.

In the long run, what matters is who becomes King, and their responsibility is much different that the rest of the royals. Will and Kate have a certain path in life and they can't be expected to change their personally, work ethic, mannerisms,.interests completely just because a more PR savvy relative is on the world stage, and self confessedly is deliberately in competition with them. I think that's the strategy that the BRF is following , and rightly so.
Lottie said…
I don't feel guilty about being negative towards MM at all.
Clearly she is all about self promotion and building up her bank account and not much else.
She was at Smartworks for 90 minutes before she had to leave to feed the child..(obviously Archie didn't need feeding while she was in NYC) not to mention that she arrived late!
The buy one piece and a piece will be donated scheme lasts for 2 weeks (although some pieces have apparently already 'sold out'..sure Jan)

It is a mere drop in the ocean and will not achieve very much.
Perhaps if she auctioned off her most expensive pieces and put that money towards charity, showing she can be selfless that could be heading in the right direction.
Nelo said…
Emily, has SS has been sacked?
Nelo said…
Cookie Shark, Charles Pince Trust hired a PR firm as well according to Dickie Arbiter, the Queen's former aide. Also it's well known that Charles had invested heavily in PR for the British public to accept Camilla.
CookieShark said…
The tennis match was typical MM. It was very telling that Serena's coach publicly said he was worried about her presence there, and she went anyway. It wasn't even a practical trip as a mom to a young baby.
Mom Mobile said…
Beth, I agree on all counts! I saw a video of a woman curtsying to MM and I thought, "Good God, woman! Don't feed the beast!" I realize she might be curtsying to the position and not the person but I guarantee MM doesn't understand the difference (because she has boundary issues). The result is, an even more inflated ego.
Nelo said…
Louise, I actually thought I hit the reply button. Sorry about that. I watched Sky news and they also alluded that the launch is a way of taking control of the narrative by KP after a summer of negative headlines. I was surprised to hear Sky news mention KP, I thought H and M were now with BP.
@Beth, curtsying isn’t actually obligatory, it’s a choice. I’d only do it to the Queen out of respect. However, royals do curtsy to each other, it shows both respect and seniority within the royal ranks.
Beth said…
Yes Louise500 and I totally agree with the respect part, especially to the Queen and I would never fault anyone for choosing to curtsy. I suppose the royals curtsy to each other to make sure that it continues for them and that's OK since they are not blathering on about equality and empowerment at every turn. MM, on the other hand, is and that was my point. Again, no disrespect to you or anyone else for your choice.
Hikari said…
"The American Duchess" is an oxymoron in itself. I'm not sure if Megs realizes that 'Duchess of Sussex' is currently only a courtesy title. As a non-British citizen, if she divorces Harry, the title can and should be revoked. Diana and Fergie retained their titles after divorce; they were also still British subjects of the Queen who had provided heirs to the Crown, and were co-parenting with blood royals. If Megs bails on Harry before her citizenship comes through (let's be honest--she is never going to become a British citizen. The existence of Archie as a legitimate heir to the succession also remains hazy), she does not meet the criteria for retaining a title of British nobility.

Harry would continue as Duke of Sussex . .but what happens if he remarries? Would there be two Duchesses of Sussex running around? Actually, that would wound the the Markle even more than striving to revoke her title. If Harry marries again, to a British subject, than she will be the legitimate duchess and Fauxarkle can swan around Hollywood calling herself the Duchess, but let's see how the merching deals go for her then.

I kind of don't expect Harry to get married again (for real) but we can hope. If he found a proper wife, it might go a long way toward helping the world draw a lead veil over the Markle'd Era. Though, who would really want to use the title after Smirks has polluted it so? Of course she'll still be roaming the world causing havoc. Maybe the people of America can all chip in to buy a containment island far, far away without Wi-Fi or access to cameras of any kind and ship her there.
abbyh said…
I think Louise's comment about the competition really being between Tungsten and Queen is really important.

I have been following this (starting in a vague not close way from the wedding on) and slowly became aware of how increasingly crazy it was headed.

We see the individual "events" as more T and H, T and W, T and .....

but it really is about who is Queen.

thanks
NeutralObserver said…
I won't try to psychoanalyze Megs, but she does seem to be a mass of contradictions & somewhat dubious motivations. I've often thought that if Harry & Megs were truly in love & had any respect for either the Crown or British tradition, they would have followed the example of Charles & Camilla, and had an elegant civil ceremony followed by a lovely & dignified religious 'blessing,' & not indulged in a ridiculous, over the top white wedding with the lengthy veil, not really suitable for a divorcee pushing forty, & a mid-thirties groom, but whatever.

I'm not really up on British royals, but avoiding controversy would seem necessary to survival, they are cousins of the Tsar, after all, & seem to know their own history fairly well, however empty headed about other things they might be. The royals seem to be private people who are forced by tradition and circumstance to do public jobs now & then.
Most of them seem to dutifully cut ribbons at supermarkets and support British dairy farmers, etc. and then return to their private lives as quickly as possible. Their public lives are a burden that they bear to preserve their privilege. They're real people whose lives seem fantastic to the public, but are real to them. I think Brits want authenticity from the royals, but expect a certain amount of decorum. They don't care that Philip and Anne are arrogant & cranky as long as they dutifully fill their public roles. In a way, the royal family are like real family to the Brits, in that even if you don't like them, you put up with them, because they're family.

Megs is completely the opposite. Authenticity is completely alien to her. She's from the world of American entertainment. Her character is what ever her pr people are putting out for her. She thinks that as long as she puts out the right pictures and articles, people will warm to her. So far, it doesn't seem to be working. I can't say what her real character is, because she hasn't shown it. I do have to say that if the worst of the rumors about her are true, the royal family is in trouble. If the royal family can't screen someone who is rumored to have done the things she has out of their lives, then they're not very competent.








Scandi

I hadn't realized that this could be spinned as a (covert) way to change the narrative for MMs excessive spending.

For me personally, I don't feel.any different about her spending. I'm fact it makes me question her motives and genuineness even more. The way she acts and projects herself, she desperately wants to loo like a savior for these empowerished, poor women...and she wants to be seen as above them, better than them, smarter than them. This is a very classical "trophy wife syndrome"

As for her spending, well it's still grating. She is self serving and self agrandising and I do have a problem with the amounts she spends on clothes because
1. Her clothes are shabby, she seems to lack grooming.

2. The clothes are VERY expensive but often inappropriate for the occasion, weather, purpose of her engagement.

3. Her shoes are always loose and she clomps around like a Colt learning to walk.

4. She doesn't come across as genuine. Her face is just too much! She is always over acting.

5. Her clothes are never tailored for her height, weight, proportions. She always wants to look.hot and sexy, and she doesn't seem.to able to leave that mentality behind.

6. The supposed fued with Kate is personal for her. and she has done nothing to dispell these rumours. She is trying to pull Kate down for no reason at all. This is childish and off-putting for most people like me.
Girl with a Hat said…
Brits don't do hugs. Maybe with long lost friends, but this casual hugging of people you don't know is not liked except perhaps by children.
abbyh said…
Tacky Tweets

I think it is so blatant, obvious that the people who would think of it as impressive, turn up their noses at Kate and therefore positive towards Tungsten would also be interested in buying the Brooklyn Bridge.

The small voice inside says: If I click on it, doesn't that mean they get charged or do I just let it go? Eh, sometimes the more one kicks dog poop, the more it gets all over your shoes.
Girl with a Hat said…
Isn't it interesting that she left the child home? If she pretending to be breastfeeding, then she could have said she is taking him. But she doesn't seem to have custody of the child or is forbidden from leaving the UK with him. What will she do for the African tour?
Girl with a Hat said…
I do have a problem with the amount she spends on clothes because of the amount she spend on clothes.

The only way she can make up for this is to pay back the amount and apologise. These PR schemes aren't going to be her penance for her greed. Most people in the UK feel the way I do.

She is so repugnant that I've completely given up on her. Reading about her now gives me the same feeling that reading about someone's injuries in an article about a murder.
Kate said…
I am really tired of Meghan being described as “youthful” or the young face of the monarchy, when SHE IS THE OLDEST ONE. Immaturity and youthfulness are two completely different things. What we have in Markle is an aging woman who didn’t make it as an actress in her twenties or even thirties. Marrying Harry has given her the fame she craved her entire life, and now she’s conducting herself as though all those lost years on yachts and casting couches never happened. If Kate went out in a short dress and got drunk in college, good for her! At least she knew when to drop that behavior.
abbyh said…
Oh, and this kind of article (negative towards Kate) has been written back when they were dating, up to the wedding and on. Stale. And Kate just keeps moving forward and doing her thing (in a quiet NOT ugly American response).

This is nothing new to the table.
Amzz Naylor said…
In hiring the same pr firm that was used to try and make Harvey Weinstein and Mj look good, I thought all her talk about female empowerment now looked so hollow. She is not stupid she knows the sort of people they represent but she clearly doesn't care about the links and general shadiness. They are clearly an aggressive pr firm which just illuminates her personality as being aggressive to be shown in a good light. I for one am sick of the relentless pr pieces being shoved down our throats on a near daily basis. Meghan markle fatigue is a very real thing.
The breaking the Internet article wasn't exactly surprising as many people know that's what she wants anyway but it still looks so desperate, greedy and contrived. It's clear to anyone who has their eyes open that all she wanted from this marriage was a nice paycheck and a huge global platform from which to push her own damn self. Not an agenda, just herself. The Sussex foundation will inevitably be used as a side income for couture clothes and other luxuries. I hope someone is employed to keep an eye on it to make sure that it is used how it should be. I think she is planning her exit from the rf personally.
Lottie said…
@Nelo
You mention William and Kate as being conservative and the Sussexs as being modern.
Conservative is a tried and tested formula between the monarchy and the British people...tried and tested for 100's of generations
Conservative for us is stoic,steadfast and secure...the purpose as that of an anchor in troubled waters/times, especially now with the uncertainty of Brexit.
Conservative is comforting
However 'modern' is forever changing,sometimes it is successful,although modern often requires tweaks & adjustments to refine the formula.
The monarchy has always been, to the British population "the rock, anchor and guide"of our culture
The monarchy (most)exhibit morals and respectability that the people look up to and admire.
I haven't seen modernisation from the Sussex's as I have seen a total blatant disrespect for traditions,customs and our culture The very institution it represents.
MM being American can up to a point be excused ( for a short time) clearly as a 40 odd year old "worldly woman"she has no intention of learning the nuances of her adopted home.
Harry on the other hand clearly has an agenda & should know how to behave and to know what is expected of him and his wife....much.muchbetter than he has shown since his marriage
Girl with a Hat said…
I don't want to be rude but I'll tell you a pet peeve of mine. If I spend a lot of time writing about something but forget a tidbit of information, such as including a link, I absolutely detest it when people ask me to do more work. It's a simple exercise to google for oneself.

It took me one google search to find the link which I will post because Nutty does a lot of free work on this blog which we all enjoy and we should appreciate it and help her, not demand more.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/12/style/misha-nonoo-meghan-markle.html
Girl with a Hat said…
the support of the press can be bought. The support of the people has to be earned.

The Telegraph had several articles today about how wonderful the clothing collection was. In fact, it was horrible. Their fashion editor raved about it. By writing such articles, the public feel that the newspaper isn't telling the truth and wonder why pay for propaganda. I am seriously considering cancelling my subscription.
Ava C said…
Mum Mobile I agree about Kate. She's exactly how I want her to be at the moment. I used to get exhausted and jaded with Diana's carryings-on and now those times are back with Meghan. The photos of Charlotte's first day at school were a blessed relief amidst all the Brexit chaos, and Kate's work with the garden has been a pleasure through the summer. Don't care if it's only one garden several times. A pretty dress, happy children and good manners may seem a low bar, but if it makes us all feel better then that's how I want it.

Also, if Kate did more it would turn into a tit-for-tat PR battle that would devalue the monarchy still further. Let Kate stay quiet and serene in the place she's meant to be. Meghan conspicuously fighting for attention only makes Kate look better and stronger.
Suzanne Wilson said…
Aren't the titles for wives of royals and wives of peers always courtesy titles, regardless of their citizenship?
Humor Me said…
I like your choice of words "Meghan Markle fatigue".
Yes, this is a very real thing in the realm of publicity.
Fifi LaRue said…
Kate Middleton looks quite ravishing in those photos, which I assume are considered inappropriate now that she is mother to the future king. One thing is that Kate always looks beautiful and well put together. Markle, on the other hand, most often looks a mess; depending on the lighting and what day it is, and how she's turned her face. She often looks unattractive. Markle must be consumed with jealousy and rage over everything Kate Middleton.
SwampWoman said…
Mischi, I would give extreme side eye at the very least to any stranger that tries to hug me. It's rude. Do not think that we all go around hugging each other like a kindergarten class.
Ava C said…
I've lost count of the confusion between 'rein' and 'reign' all over the media for months now. Compounds the problem when journalists make the mistake too. Maybe it's subconsciously referring to the person who could sort this out in the twinkling of an eye, as the most common example is 'reigning Harry in'.
Liver Bird said…
Long time lurker, first time poster.

Have to agree that 'Nelo' sounds like a ray of Sunshine (Sachs). If not, then he/she is certainly someone with no clue about the monarchy and the role it plays in British culture.

Firstly, I disagree that Kate is 'boring'. The point is we know very little about her. And that's exactly how it should be. The Royals are supposed to be a little but dull. British people want them to smile and wave and offer some juicy gossip from time to time, but other than that we don't much want to see or hear from them. We certainly don't want them preaching to us from on high, or flaunting their celebrity 'friends', especially ones like Ellen De Generes who are barely even known this side of the Atlantic.

Secondly, the comparisons with Kate are absurd, and again show an ignorance o the monarchy. Kate will be Queen Consort and then Queen Mother. Meghan will be another Sophie if she's very, very lucky and if she's even still around by then. There is simply no comparison.
Liver Bird said…
Was anyone else struck by how blatently commercial this latest venture is? So much so that I'm frankly shocked that a venerable old British brand like M&S would get involved. You have to buy one - very mediocre - piece at full price in order for the company to donate an equivalent piece. Given that the actual cost of the garment to the retailer will be a small fraction of the cost to the customer, they stand to make a significant profit. Yes, Smarkworks does get the item, but I wonder if it's a good thing for these clothes to be so obviously associated with the charity? So if a woman turns up for interview wearing them, there's a good chance she got it from the charity. Absolutly nothing wrong with that in my eyes, but an interviewer might not see it the same way.

Also, what's with the pieces being sold by Meghan's latest designer 'friend' from her boutique in New York? So although it's supposedly in aid of a British charity, British women will be unable to buy them?

It all stinks a bit to me. Sounds like the latest episode in financial shenanigans from the Harkles, along with the bizarre 'Travalyst' scheme. Probably the first step in her launching her own clothes line in America. Wait and see.
NikNak said…
@Mischi, As a Brit you are not wrong, it's not done. We're not prudes by no stretch but we keep our hands to ourselves. Even my mum noted it during the Lion King premier, her exact words were 'Why are they even there?! and WHY is she hugging EVERYONE?!'
Liver Bird said…
"Harry would continue as Duke of Sussex . .but what happens if he remarries? Would there be two Duchesses of Sussex running around?"

I THINK that after a divorce, these are strictly speaking not 'titles' but 'styles'. So if Diana were still alive today she would be 'Diana, Princess of Wales', but Camila would be 'HRH the Princess of Wales' (yes that is Camila's title though she rarely uses it). So THE Princess of Wales would be Camila, not Diana.

Similarly if (when) Harry and Meghan divorce, she could still style herself Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, but any future wife of Harry would be THE Duchess of Sussex.

At least that's what I think, though I'm open to correction here!
Ilona said…
I agree with the ladies who say that they do not feel guilty about criticising MM etc. The Royal Family has a tradition of centuries that not even modern politics would be allowed to dent for many years to come - hopefully - let alone a few PR firms and a so-called actress from the U.S. . I bet they are very scornful towards MM amongst themselves and so are the true aristocrats, that is the old money.
There are thousands of British people of a certain age who a) do not use social media and b) are very conservative in their attitudes. These people have got to know MM from the printed newspapers, if at all. A printed picture does not have the impact of a digital one. They honestly do not care a fig about her. They respect the Queen and they accept her decisions re her family and the continuation of the monarchy. As for BP they have weathered many scandals over the years (in their unique way) and they are going through this one (MM), too. I am pretty sure that when she oversteps the mark big way then they will act accordingly. And b.t.w. Kate and William are fine as they are - no need for changing their image to compete with MM.
NikNak said…
@Mischi, I also heard her mutter 'that dress makes her look like a fridge' lmao
Girl with a Hat said…
I just had a thought. Do you know what would sell out immediately? A book on exercise and diet by the Duchess of Cambridge!!!!!!!!!!!! Who wouldn't want to find out her secrets for staying in shape?
Nelo said…
Liver bird, chill. I'm no SS.
punkinseed said…
Mischi, I agree. "Get it yourself Bob!" (80's Budweiser commercial). Nutty cited her source. That's enough for me if I choose to google it.
SS's propaganda is no better than Joseph Goebbels' infamous moves to deflect and distract. Trashing Kate to boost Markle won't fly.
I have been toying with the idea of a new painting featuring flying monkeys with faces like Ellen, Lainey, et al. Kind of fun and cathartic.
Hikari said…
Yes . . . but the courtesy title is connected to the marriage. It seems quizzical to me that Meghan could be permitted to be called 'Meghan, Duchess of Sussex', should she divorce Harry. She'd be not married, not British, not a mother to an heir of succession and co-parenting amicably with Harry (I am leaning toward Archificial not being in the line of succession, whether because he's a surrogate donor baby with no Royal DNA . .or because he's plastic) . . and, should she leave the UK post-divorce, she will do so never having set foot in Sussex. It's meaningless. She's welcome to it, I guess . . who'd want it after she's had it. It'd be like sloppy seconds.
abbyh said…
Balatent? How about the DM article praising the huggy Meghan teaching the BRF to hug (like Diana did). How about timing (should buy a lottery ticket:).

On the other hand, top commenters are expressly stating they are not interested in being hugged by her.
Liver Bird said…
Fergie is 'Sarah, Duchess of York' so no reason why Meghan couldn't use a similar style. And Archie Mountbatten Windsor is officially listed as being 7th in line.
Lady Boo said…
Catherine was very young in those pictures and she looks fabulous......if that's the best they've got, I say giant fail.
skydives1 said…
I'm originally from California. I do not go around hugging people and detest when people I barely know try to hug me. It's just weird.
Liver Bird said…
But Charles is a future king. And the death of Diana nearly brought down the monarchy - or so it was feared at the time - so it's not that surprising that he might enlist the services of a PR company to handle his highly controversial remarriage.

What's not so obvious is why a minor royal, who's barely been in the 'job' for a year, should need to take on a heavy-hitting American PR firm known for handling clients such as Harvey Weinstein and the late Michael Jackson. Do similar ranking royals like Sophie Wessex have expensive heavy duty PR firms? I doubt it.
CookieShark said…
Scandi, remember that according to MM, the inventory at Smart Works was not sufficient. Has Smart Works ever gone on the record saying that they didn't have enough of the right clothing? This to me is not that different from the "My favorite things" page Oprah does in magazines. 5 items, designed by other people, were "curated" by MM and look exactly like things she would wear herself. The photos are full of women who are styled just like MM and MM is featured in most of the photos for the project.

While I think it is nice to make sure people in need have clothing for job interviews, I think an even needier population would have been better served. What about making sure the poorest in Britain have food, water, and shelter? Instead of shilling tote bags, why not put the money towards medical care for the homeless?
SwampWoman said…
Yeah, whatevs. I can look at the lack of breast pads to see that she is not a breastfeeder.
Liver Bird said…

"Also curious that of the SmartWorks women showcased at the launch, most of them were of African heritage. That's a weird statement to make, particularly since Black British citizens are only 3.3% of the population"

Agree. I think this is yet another example of Meghan pandering to the only audience she cares about - Americans - and not understanding that her adopted country - you know the one she is supposed to serve - is, well, different.

The biggest non-white minority in Britain are those of South Asian descent, who outnumber Britons of Afro-Caribbean descent by more than 2 to 1. But because in America the largest and most historically mistreated minority are blacks, she thinks she will gain 'woke' points with her vapid Instagram crowd by featuring 3 black women.
I thought it was pure BS. First off, the scheme was too confusing to be announced so well in advance. The 1:1 model hasn't been clearly explained and the whole thing is a blatant promotion of Meghan.

That's what I do to understand actually. Smartworks has bee around for a while, they have been helping women for a long time and many companies like M&S , Jigsaw have been helping them.out for a while. So when MM says that clothes they have been providing so far are mismatched, and seem like bad quality hand me downs, she is dissing their work. To uplift herself as a knight in shining armour. This kind of a publicly, even from a Royal Patron should be offensive and unacceptable to the team. Who would want to do repeat business with them after this?

She could also encourag women to donate good quality work wear to smartworks, and do a drive and some.markwting to spread that message. We know MM herself would get much goodwill if she donated some of her own old clothes to smartworks.

And now, the work scheme...
1. The capsule collection is bullshit. The pieces are so basic,that it seems like a capsule specifically put together to be given TO charity. If it was intended to be bought by regular folks it didn't have to be so bland.

2. The 2 weeks only catch - The pieces are for the company is regular collections right? Which h means that for two weeks, for every piece bought from these 5, another would be donated to the charity. Aftet2 weeks, while the pieces would be available at the stores, the charity part would stop. So when MM wears this in SA, as she has said she would, she would be endorsing for these companies. Women would obviously see her in those pieces, styled well, and they would go buy. That's wrong.

3. Some pieces are too expensive while being too basic. And the dresses have been around for a while. I have the one in blue. My boss had the red.

This is clearly a project with commercial benefits for the companies.
HappyDays said…
If Meghan isn’t a British citizen at the time of a divorce, I doubt she gets to keep the title as an American citizen. She likely knows this and will try to hang in until she becomes a British citizen. If after becoming a British citizen they split, then she gets to keep the title with no HRH, which is what happened to Diana and Fergie. However, I understand that if Meghan were to marry again after Harry, she would lose her title. She’d avoid remarrying just to keep the title. Same goes for Fergie. If she remarries, she is no longer Duchess of York. I hope the H&M marriage plays out before she gets British citizenship. Also, if she continues to snub HM, she could probably pull strings to delay Meghan’s citizenship. Too bad Charles is next in line, I think a William vs. Meghan battle would be a sight to watch because William will prevail, no matter what Meghan throws at him, including the race card she keeps in her back pocket.
Lurking said…
@Nutty... white shirt, black trousers... the uniform of every waitress in every LA restaurant. Did you notice her outfit was ill fitting and she couldn't walk in the heels she was wearing?
HappyDays said…
Neutral Observer: Do sone research on the topic if Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Meghan likely has a profound case of it. She checks off all the boxes for it.
Also read about narcissistic mothers for a view if what poor Archie is in for.

The interesting thing is that she is running loose with NPD behaviors in the midst of the royal family. This is such a toxic personality disorder that I truly believe the damage she is doing, with the tacit approval and assistance of Harry, could hasten the end of the monarchy. Talk about biting the hand that’s feeding her, just wow.
I've been waiting for ever to know what Kate does to look like that!!
She definitely runs amd swims, is my opinion. It shows.

But what does eat to keep her hair looking like that?? The shine, ooooh the shine!
R_O said…
I don’t get why Meghan has spread these negative stories about Kate or insult the traditions of the Royal Family in order to boost her PR. Why can’t she just make up nice stories about herself without putting others down? It’s not very feminist of her to allow SS to release digs about Kate.
CookieShark said…
Great points Neutral. If she truly loved Harry, she would not allow digs to be made on her behalf at Kate & William. She wouldn't "snub" his Grandmother and she certainly wouldn't have had a lavish baby shower in NY, knowing what that would look like and the heat the RF would catch for it. She does not even appear to be polite at times. There are several videos of her literally pushing other people out of the way or cutting in front of Harry.
HappyDays said…
Amzz Naylor. I agree that she might be planning her exit, but not a minute before she obtains British citizenship. The title is what will keep her afloat after a divorce. And if she is nasty in the divorce, relinquishing her title could be a stipulation. I think a Sussex divorce will be a nasty, caustic affair that will make the McCartney-Mills divorce look like schoolyard bickering. Narcissists tend to go nuclear in breakups, and Meghan won’t be able to resist pulling out all the stops. But the British public will take Harry’s side because they either already know he’s being duped, or they will realize it during the divorce. Hollywood will drop Meghan because they will still want to curry favor with the RF, not a trashy actress who might no longer have any sort of title.
Liver Bird said…
Yes absolutely. Meghan and the retailers and her 'designer friend' will benefit. But Smartworks? Not that much.

And I thought her dissing previous donations was incredibly rude and obnoxious. People donated these clothes out of kindness, and here she is coming along and telling them they're rubbish? Never mind that, despite having access to the best designers and stylists in the business, she looks a mess most of the time.

"Some pieces are too expensive while being too basic. And the dresses have been around for a while. I have the one in blue. My boss had the red."

I read somewhere that the red version isn't part of the scheme! It's almost like they're going out of their way to confuse you - a bit like when you buy what you think is a discounted shampoo in Tesco's and discover at the till that the version for dry hair isn't part of the promotion! I've never seen such a convoluted scheme involving royals. Almost as bad as the Travalyst farce.

Even if I liked any of these items I wouldn't buy them. I'd prefer to donate directly to the charity, even if it is a 'lilac blazer' that the Duchess of Givenchy sneers at.
@Lady Boo, the photos are well over 10 years old, I remember the one with dancing with William well. I think it was a mega fail, whatever swipe’s Murky’s PR tries to score, they don’t stick.,
@Lurking, the outfit was awful! Her trousers made her bottom half look like a man, very flat, and boxy. Not a good look at all.
Hikari said…
Neutral,

This is very astute. I concur completely.

>>>>I'm not really up on British royals, but avoiding controversy would seem necessary to survival, they are cousins of the Tsar, after all, & seem to know their own history fairly well, however empty headed about other things they might be. The royals seem to be private people who are forced by tradition and circumstance to do public jobs now & then.
Most of them seem to dutifully cut ribbons at supermarkets and support British dairy farmers, etc. and then return to their private lives as quickly as possible. Their public lives are a burden that they bear to preserve their privilege. They're real people whose lives seem fantastic to the public, but are real to them. I think Brits want authenticity from the royals, but expect a certain amount of decorum. They don't care that Philip and Anne are arrogant & cranky as long as they dutifully fill their public roles. In a way, the royal family are like real family to the Brits, in that even if you don't like them, you put up with them, because they're family.<<<

Meghan exemplifies a certain, very au courant type of American celebrity . . the Kartrashian brand of celebrity, whereby one gets famous for an 'image' rather than a body of work. Unless porn videos on the Internet can be construed as a body of work. American movie stars of bygone eras also carefully managed their publicity and public images, but there used to be more mystique around them . . sightings were rare and details of their private lives jealously guarded. The model during the Golden Age of Hollywood was of a more Royal aesthetic, befitting the 'American royalty'. Nowadays, every single tabloid mag of the week is festooned with pap shots of unkempt 'celebrities' walking their dogs, going to the grocery store & showing us pics of their breakfasts or what's inside their purses.

Meg aspires to the Kardashian Influencer type of celebrity . . .when she could have gone down in the history books as Britain's first American royal, the bridge between two cultures. She will be going down in the history books as a tawdry footnote, unless her antics really succeed in pulling the house down.

Megs is an especially egregious type of American entertainer . . .they are not all like her. She's quite a special case, in fact. She is very mentally ill, and it's playing out on the international stage. I look forward to the many books and articles which will no doubt be written about her in the future. Meg is going to be a case study on narcissistic personality disorder for generations of psychotherapists to come.
HappyDays said…
Rabbit: Jealousy and setting up situations of mostly one-sided competitiveness are common behaviors of people like Meghan, who likely have Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Kate doesn’t have to compete with Meghan or anybody else. Kate will be Queen Consort one day, and Meghan won’t. I also think Kate has a good sense of herself and os smart enough to not allow herself or her family to be sucked into Meghan’s drama games.
Lady Boo said…
Speaking as a Brit I prefer my monarchy to be seen and not heard and to stick to very neutral themes when they do pipe up. Don't forget the monarchy represents everyone and if they express personal opinions there are bound to be people who feel something different. For me Kate is not boring she has taken her time to think things through and to learn the ropes. I'm pretty sure that most of us do not want to see constant 'fluff' pieces in the DM every day. The monarchy don't have to stay relevant they are relevant. They don't have movies or records or perfume or any other damn thing that they have to endlessly flog. They are not Hollywood and I don't believe the majority of people want them to be
Liver Bird said…
I wonder if it has anything to do with the presence of Sara Latham, who was an advisor to Hillary Clinton? In politics, it's not only about making yourself look good, you have to make your rival look bad too.

What they don't understand is that royalty is not politics, and that Kate is not and never will be Meghan's rival. Kate outranks Meghan and the gap between them will grow, not diminish, over time. It doesn't matter how many Instagram followers or Twitter support from C list celebs Meghan gets. That's just how royalty is.
@Liver Bird, agree, Catherine is not boring and nor is William. She never tries too hard, she’s always comes across as real and natural, and as a Mother too.
HappyDays said…
There is another blind on CDAN today about Andrew.
Mrs Trestle said…
I agree with Liver Bird and not just because I am another Liverpudlian!
There is something about Nelo's contributions that arouse my suspicions. I apologise if I am doing her an injustice, but that is my perception and as the old management adage says "perception is the reality".
Hikari said…
Yep, Kate looks great, if a little windblown in every one of those photos. She looks better in jeans and a tank top than Smegs does in $100K Valentino with hours of 'styling'.

Natural beauty vs. the desperate manufactured attempt at beauty. Really, if those are the very worst photos of Kate that SS could dig up, Smegs really is desperate. I'd call that a PR fail for her. Kate looks fresh, young, enthusiastic about her life. Hardly louche. Salad tossing . . now that's louche.
Lady Boo said…
Personally, speaking as a British tax payer, I couldn't care less how much money she spends or how many private flights she takes, how much privacy she demands in twenty five articles a day in the DM. Fill your boots I say but don't even for one second imagine that you represent me as a Brit. I wish her well and well away from me. Smart Works BTW has been around for sometime, Ms Markle did not write the cook book or contribute a recipe she merely wrote the forward. She talks a good tale as they say. I'm begging the royal family not to engage in the PR mud slinging it couldn't be further from what Britain requires from their royalty and the current campaign just serves to underline how very far from royal the people are who are indulging in it.
Liver Bird said…
Not to mention that royalty is a marathon, not a sprint. It's not about getting the latest hot celeb to tweet about you, racking up Instagram likes or being seen to endorse the current trendy cause. It's providing a sense of national unity, the reassurance of tradition, and continuity with the past.

But Meghan is incapable of seeing anything outside of her own shallow wannabe celebrity vision of the world, and seems to think it's all about constantly keeping yourself in the news and a silly game of oneupmanship with the sister in law who outranks her and always will.
Hikari said…
>>>And Archie Mountbatten Windsor is officially listed as being 7th in line.

Yes, one of the great mysteries of our time, for an invisible child without an official birth certificate.

If Meghan presented her son Archie to the public, I'd be happy for her to keep the title. At the moment, I feel that Archie is another of Megs' snow jobs.
Hikari said…
P.S. And as mentioned before, Diana and Fergie were both British subjects. It makes no sense for a divorced American to keep a title when she threw away the marriage, particularly if she refuses to be resident in Britain. Talk about meaningless. Duchess of What? A county she's never visited and the ex-wife of an equally clueless royal?

This is unprecedented, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Exactly! She is the oldest, she's 40.

She is always prainsed for her youthful energy, when she is basically giggly, jumpy, blinking excessively, playing with her hair, darting her eyes and biting her lip when she is in a group where others are talking .... there is never a dignified stoicness about her, which should be expected from someone royal. And she is always getting into peoples personal space by hugging them and holding on for too long.


just a note, if you have a phone then you are being listened to. Try it and you will see. talk out loud to someone about a certain kind of hairspray or makeup and you will start seeing ads either for those brands or products. Not being paranoid, ive just seen it happen too often to be a coincidence
Lady Muck said…
The DM commenters really have MM's number now - they're not stupid and know a PR exercise when they see one. What I would love though is the dodgy photographs of MM (that we know about) - her in the basque & suspenders, the film stills of her of sex scenes - show those to those ladies who curtsey to her. I'm not sure they know who exactly they're curtseying to. I'd also love it if there was a 'leak' from the palace about MM and SS's tactic to make MM look good by tarnishing Catherine - or trying to. Make it mainstream knowledge.
Miss_Christina said…
Looking at the above photos, all they prove is Kate had, and still has, a great figure. I'd say whatever SS and MeAgain were trying to do with this is one huge giant FAIL.
punkinseed said…
"Let freedom reign!" or is it, "Let freedom rein!"? but it is most definitely NOT "Let freedom ring!" People think it's "ring" but it's not. Sigh. Same goes with lead and led. I see that in DM and other publications a lot, along with chose and choose, lose and loose.
Off to look up some things on my own. I'll get back to you when I find out.
CookieShark said…
@ Liver Bird I also found it rude, but not surprising, that this project involved insulting the donations that were already at Smart Works. This is probably part of her pathology - she can always do it better, just like the ridiculous messages on bananas.

On second thought, the 1:1 model really doesn't make sense for Smart Works. If I buy the shirt and they donate the shirt to Smart Works, who is to say it will be the right size? And then aren't they right where they started, but now with an additional garment that may or may not be worn? Why not just donate money for the women so they can select items that will be the right size and fit at budget stores? This way they are buying clothing that has already been made.
Lady Muck said…
Catherine is exactly the future queen I want to see right now. I don't want a trendy, woke, media savvy monarchy. The Cambridges exemplify perfectly how the monarchy will move forward successfully, because in the chaos of Brexit and modern life in general, having a royal family that promotes traditional and conservative values, a moral code and does their public duties respectfully and without drama. They are also approachable with the public, but not flinging their arms around people like Markle.
Lady Boo said…
Pushing 40 is almost middle aged they're just 'young' in relation to the older ones!
Girl with a Hat said…
she does this because it appeals to her fan base which are women who are entitled and who feel that the world has done them wrong by not recognising their innate greatness. The reason behind their lack of success is obviously the b****es that have succeeded but don't want to share the spotlight, don't you know? Like Kate supposedly does with Meghan (because Kate enforces some boundaries with her).
Girl with a Hat said…
I would like to know how she keeps her legs and arms tones but her abs so tiny! Every woman would spend money to look like that!
Ava C said…
If she keeps up the winsome act into (further into?) her 40s it'll eventually become grotesque. She needs to find a new act fast. It actually reminds me of silent screen stars, it's so over the top. Wonder if her father was interested in that period in Hollywood? Fantastic time for dramatic lighting and cinematography. Worked for them as they never had to mix with the common man. Being insanely extravagant and aloof was all part of the mystique. These days the act is well and truly rumbled.
Agree Liver Bird, I couldn’t have put it better myself.

Lady Boo, Louise, Alice, agree too.
More nonsense from the Sussex’s PR machine. Comments have been moderated, I can’t think why, just check out the headline! Lol

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7460985/Harry-Meghan-asked-tour-Africa-connect-young-people-better-royals.html
Lady Muck said…
I don't feel guilty in the slightest. In fact the two things are totally separate. Royals don't spend on frivolities and then raise money for charity to off set their spending. She is not the future queen and when spending the tax payer's money from another country, a high level of awareness is required before running off to Givenchy. She doesn't support British designers to the level Catherine does and she spent an obscene amount of money in her first year of marriage.

A comparison over Meghantoinette & Catherine: MM's engagement dress cost £56,000 ($75,000), Catherine's white engagement dress cost £159 ($310) - and she already owned it. Her blue Issa dress for the engagement photo call cost approximately £475 ($600). That is what we're dealing with here.
Emily said…
Nelo it was reported that she was furious about the breaking the internet leak, so they were fired.
punkinseed said…
Glad I looked it up. The correct word in this instance is.... "Let freedom REIN!"
Now, back to topic.
I think Megz is really no different than all of the other flashy, tacky narcissists who preceded her. Name a single one who didn't go down in flames. Imelda Marcos, Evita Perez, Paul McCartney's ex wife, it's a long list of flash then crash.
Kate is the polar opposite of flashy trashy markle in that she is genuine, conservative, happy, loving wife and mom and all of the wholesomeness that a normal, well balanced woman in her position needs to survive.
SwampWoman said…
Ava C, I just shake my head sadly at the quality of the writing displayed within many of the mass media articles or videos. If I want to find out the who, what, where, when, why, and how of a story, I have to go to the comments and read the sequence of events from people that were there. Many of the MSM have disabled comments, though. I suppose having their factual, grammatical and spelling errors pointed out to them repeatedly hurts the narrative they were trying to establish.

Neutral Observer, I share your pain but I have to wonder if some of these egregious errors are not the result of autocorrect replacing a more rare word with a more commonly used substitute.
Catty said…
Yeah I saw that "hip & fresh" article claiming Harry & Meghan are the only royals to "connect with young people". So ridiculous to pretend Harry & Meghan aren't both pushing 40 - acting like they are some twenty-something, cool, edgy couple - for cripes sake Meghan is older than Harry, William & Kate. Kate is wonderful with young people while Meghan can't even connect with her own baby judging by those polo photos. I have seen lots of comments about "boring" Kate - doing your job competently without drama is being an "adult" - I'm sure the Queen wishes Harry & Meghan would start behaving like Kate.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Only the British and those born in a Commonwealth country can use a title. That includes a KBE and DBE, so neither Steven Spielberg or Angelina Jolie can’t be addressed as Sir or Dame because they are American’s. So was Meghan a dual citizen on her wedding day? It take at least 3 years to get a UK citizenship so it’s all very fishy!

If Harry and Murky were to divorce I’m very sure his new wife would use the title of Duchess of ? (another Dukedom bestowed or another title used entirely). I doubt very much if Murky would be addressed as Dowager, Duchess of Sussex, because that’s only used when the husband (Duke) has died and there’s a new Duchess with her new Duke. So, upon a divorce, possibly Murky’s title could be revoked if she’s still an American.
Liver Bird said…
Also, I expect that most of the women helped by Smartworks are working-class and going for jobs in areas like waitressing, retail etc. So while it is important for them to look neat and presentable, they don't really need the generic office wear clothes we saw in the great reveal yesterday.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the whole idea of a 'capsule' collection that the pieces go together and can be mixed and matched? That's not the case here. The pieces don't go together at all. So all things considered it seems like a poorly thought-out initiative. Yet to read some of the Meghan Maniacs, it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I genuinely question these people's grasp on reality.
The particular pictures used here are definitely meant to grab your attention. The purpose of this could be 1. Throw shade at Catherine and imply that she used to be loose, hippy, drunken chick before marriage. (And to that I say, how dare you SS?)
2. Could the harmless banal things written about in the article actually be a positive PR?? (I think not. It's just meant to look like that)

These covert tactics could backfire on MM. Some Cambridge sympathetic journalist, a nonUK resident, could just as well use Meg's shady, erotic, halfclad pictures for an article lsuch as this one and there would SO much uproar.

This definitely stinks of paid PR. What's also surprising that every day we see more and more of the Meg is so cute, Mm is back and ready to go, MM is so empowered articles once again as if the circus fest that was the past 5 months never did happen.


Also interesting, Sussex Royal insta never even mentioned Harry's 9/11 engagement ( where he bagged 1 billion pound deal for UK !!!) Or his All Schools Rugby programme. They clearly didn't want to steal Meghan's thunder on her big comeback (Petty! So very Petty!)
punkinseed said…
CookieShark et al, YES! I agree about the nonsense Megz has made for the hard working people at and donators to Smart Works. A better and more economical and sensible scheme would be to simply donate money on gift cards so the women could purchase items at Smart Works or wherever stores. But, then, that very simple scheme would block Megz from all of the publicity and profits she and her cling ons would make. Taking out the middle man markle would eliminate her all together.
What's sick about her in these charity schemes is how her sugars who write the articles about her constantly overblow her contributions by giving her far more credit than she has earned. They write that she wrote a cookbook. No. She wrote the preface. They say she is a Hollywood star, but no, she wasn't, and so on. She really enjoys poaching off of other people's hard work. I don't like poachers. It's my understanding that she isn't above poaching the most simple things from others as well. It's been noted that her ex, Chef Corey had created a pasta dish and Megz told everyone that she created it. He was furious with her over that.
NPD people are incapable of originating anything on their own. And when they're called out on it, zip, the accuser is trashed, doxed and ghosted.
Liver bird, if you go to their IG page most of the comments are about how soft her voice is. And how she gave an impromptu, unprepared speech without notes. (The comments to are almost exclusively positive.) That is their whole take away from that.

I wonder why there are no mentions of her feeding the baby comment. If I was there, I would have wanted to know how she could go to New York without the baby but not bear to be at Oxford Street.

Someone on this thread mentioned Meghan fatigue syndrome and I'm definitely beginning to suffer from it. By now her antics so predictable, and frankly so overdone, that she becoming boring herself.

I'd say Meg's, colour your hair purple, wear a glitter lippy, and turn up in leather pants, because you definitely are too boring for a Disney villian now.
Liver Bird said…

"They write that she wrote a cookbook. No. She wrote the preface."

Which was mostly about herself. As always.

Oh, and did anyone read that she gave out 'goody bags' at the launch yesterday?

Goody bags? At a royal event? That must be a first.

Not sure what exactly they contained but I did read mention of Bobbi Brown items. So more kickbacks and commercial tie ins? There's something 'off' about every single thing this woman does.
KayeC said…
Same here.....I am NOT a hugger, it is super weird and makes me so uncomfortable (my immediate family excluded). Maybe when I haven't seen a close family member or friend in years or maybe at a funeral. With MM, it is everyone she meets and you can tell others feel just as awkward about it.
SDJ said…
Looks like SS failed with the LATimes which translates into a BIG fail with MM's target geographical audience.

Hmmmm, is the last line major shade?

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2019-09-12/meghan-markle-smart-works-fashion-line-charity
fordgirl said…
There is a post in MMTCD that says that MM just joined WhatsApp! Who can think that that is true?? She lies all the time.
Nelo said…
SDJ, that was some serious shade. Lol. I doubt SS has been fired. The PR yesterday amd today has been OTT. The latest from the DM says only both of them in the RF can connect to young people. That's so incorrect cos Kate is a natural with kids. The DM claims the statement is from the Foreign Office. Lol.
Nelo said…
Dan Wotton reports that Gayle King is pushing for an interview with H and M.
''Exclusive: Gayle King is pushing for Prince Harry and Meghan to sit down with her for a tell-all interview with US broadcaster CBS https://t.co/cVqlwQMOF7 https://t.co/F071n8cKaD.
NeutralObserver said…
You're right. I shouldn't judge so quickly. Auto-correct is responsible for a lot of errors. I totally agree with you that you can often get more facts & information in the comments than in actual articles. LOL. This goes for even the New York Times.
What Murky and her P.R. team have failed to notice is the British reserve and being unstated, it underpins much of our psyche. The Royal Family, and the younger royals William and Catherine have it and do it with spades, and I can understand why foreigners see the royals as bland or boring. Murky is in our faces constantly with everything and anything, she wouldn’t get or understand what being unstated or reserved is if it slapped her in the face. She will and has failed everytime with trying to be too different from everything the British public expects.
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The worst of it is that Kate is aging quite gracefully whereas Meghan is … not.
Ann Christensen said…
Kate is a beautiful woman who had mildly wild party days at an appeopriate age. She seems to hit all the maturity and growth markers on the head! This is what we all love about her. She is healthy, vital, normal, intelligent and gorgeous. She gives the impression of being effortlessly, happily duty-driven. The whole package!

MM acts like a confused and needy 14 year old. The public will never confuse these two women.
Ann Christensen said…
Misspelled Keyword here: APPROPRIATE. A word unknown to MM.
PaulaMP said…
I would buy it but they would tell me I'm five inches too short, and much too lazy to ever achieve it
Jdubya said…
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9924847/meghan-markle-relaunch-lifestyle-blog/
I had my phone in my pocket, asked a friend at work how his health was, he told me he had fatty liver disease and when I got home and went online I saw ads for fatty liver disease. Also, one night after telling my husband how much I love chimpanzees, when I went on Instagram I was suddenly following a chimp rescue organization that I had never heard of before.
I think the message is supposed to be that Harry and MM connect to millenials and whatever generation is after that, not small children. I think it's because they see themselves as and act like early twenty-somethings. It's cringeworthy to me but I guess they have their fans who agree.
Lady BreakWind said…
Two Tone Meghan and her crappy schmatte collection just need to go.
SwampWoman said…
@ Ava C "If she keeps up the winsome act into (further into?) her 40s it'll eventually become grotesque."

Too late!
JL said…
Millenials are those born in 80s so in their thirties now. The 90s kids are okay.
ooh, isn't the Sussex's latest staffer ex-Foreign Office? hmmm.....
Simple living said…
Lady Muck...I agree about Catherine. If I was a British subject I would want a measured, traditional, non-political Royal. I run from "woke" people as fast as I can; their virtue signaling makes me cringe with disgust. Meagan has that type of wokeness...and maybe it's attractive to the people who watch Oprah or Ellen but most of us women find it trashy and low class. Then again I'm a rural woman and we see life differently.
JenS said…
With a June 10 date, likely SS put it together and scheduled release to counter what they anticipated would be negative coverage of yesterday's "launch" (or whatever they're calling it). Murky's favourite reactionary strategy seems to consist of hitting back at Kate, closely followed by summoning "friends" from the woodwork to play the race card and tell the public how "amazing" she is.

She seems to really think that people will believe whatever she or her team puts out there, so long as she can dominate the news cycle and control social media with sugars and bots. Fortunately, people are not as stupid as she hopes, and many see right through her antics, which are permanently preserved online for all to view again and again. No amount of PR will fix yesterday's Creamsicle Murky trashing her charity partners, clapping/hugging Murky at SmartWorks, drunk/high Murky at Wimbledon, wrinkled-denim Murky flashing Serena's hubby, or stuffed-sausage Murky pawing Bey at the Lion King -- and that's all happened in the space of about two months. She's a train wreck wherever she goes, and any PR firm not living in a cave knows it.

Budget-conscious, fashion-conscious, or quality-conscious women will not buy the overpriced, prior-season leftovers in her "collection." At most, one could make three outfits from the four clothing pieces (six if one adds the tote, which is an accessory); this is not a capsule wardrobe in any sense. The white shirt is a high-maintenance item and not at all forgiving of long commutes on public transit, nervous sweating, or repeated washings needed because of a very small work wardrobe, plus it would need ironing for each wear.

My prediction is that she'll get to keep her "foundation" in the divorce. Also, she's renewed the copyright on The Tig, which is a pretty strong hint that she'll reopen it sometime soon, maybe during divorce proceedings. She's clearly setting up her post-royal life and seems to not care if that's obvious.
PaulaMP said…
I saw somewhere or other that the white shirt is dry clean only LOL
SwishyFishy said…
Its interesting that Nutty's forum was a calm little harbor to thoughtfully discuss and dissect the behavior of "The Duchess" and the royal family, but then one newbie pops up and suddenly everyone's (myself included) hackles went up over the new poster. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. This has always been a place to engage in discourse and respectfully disagree and create connection, not division, which is suspiciously what that new poster has done. All I can say is that your blog, Nutty, must be on SS's radar and is making someone nervous. Congrats Nutty, you have arrived!
gabes_human said…
“It’s a terrible thing not to become a woman when one ceases to be a girl.” ‘Beany Malone’ by Lenora Mattingly Weber circa 1943
KnitWit said…
I agree. MM's expensive PR gurus dug up "scandalous" photo of young Kate with her clothes on.

That is the worst they can do?

No tacky suitcase girl jobs? No porn videos? No yachting with pedophiles?
SwishyFishy said…
Im not a UK citizen, but I feel compelled to make a point. Meghan could have easily accomplished more variables in Smart Works clothing options by asking people to donate clothes (i.e. a work outfit clothes drive), and also asking retailers to donate clothes. There was honestly no need for her to "curate" a collection. I loathe how she uses that word, like she's some connoisseur of fine art and dining who works in an upper crust gallery or auction house. Her clothing looks cheap and basic. If some people had donated, the likelihood of quality pieces would have been higher. Plus, it's never been made clear if Smart Works would get an exact copy of what sold, or a cheaper version. Also, how is Smart Works supposed to get a significant amount of clothing if there were only a small amount made and sold for a mere 2 weeks. This does not seem particularly helpful for long term problems, in my opinion.

And here's one other little precious nugget for you all...Meghan had a collection for Toronto's Reitmans store. They have a subsidiary store of work appropriate clothing called...Smart Set. The exact name that Meghan called her capsule collection. The M&S dress that is "sold out?" It apparently comes from a previous collection made by M&S. Meghan did not create any of it, it was a left over dress pattern from a previous season. That leather tote bag? It was sold out before the launch. Why? Because it was actually also an item that was offered for sale at a previous time. All allegedly, of course because with SS now lurking, nothing is safe anymore.
gabes_human said…
That is a very good term. I’m finding myself no longer giving the DM, LSA or any of the online publications more than a cursory every other day glance. What I have done is re-read all the TP1 and DD tweets and following up with fresh eyes all the hints we have been given. Each of us has an idea who we believe to be the anon tweeters but many of the names they dropped pre-Epstein “death” have proved to be of substance. Someone tweeted Jersey Deanne a link that accuses M of killing someone. Her grandfather who supposedly strangled himself on a dog leash? Some of the other accusations were too filthy and sick to repeat so I’ll let you read them for yourself. I know much of the dirt in her has been washed from the net but I’m determined to find whatever has been buried deep.
SwishyFishy said…
As yet, haven't heard any confirmation that SS has been sacked.
And on a side note, that picture of Meghan exposing her thigh and smiling coyly...Has anyone seen the full picture and not the cropped version of that image? Guess who she is smiling at and showing her thigh to? Any takers? LOL.
Alexis Ohanian. Serena's husband.
KnitWit said…
"Invested in her own image" indeed.

KnitWit said…
What? Synthetic Fabric touching her royal vegan skin? Does she know the chemicals used in making pleather?

Of course not. She is interested in the PR impact not the environmental impact.

Hope some ladies at SmartWorks are happy with their duchess duds. They can jazz them up with some of the colorful mismatched clothes you know who sneered at.

Hope the charity benefits from the publicity. Maybe something good will result from this mess.
gabes_human said…
Catherine looks fabulous! She has good genes for starters. Just look at her mother. We’ve all heard the old saying about how if you want to know what a girl will look like in 20-30 years, just look at her mother. She works out and runs too. When my children were small I worked as a welder and it was a very physical occupation. My friend had just bought a rowing machine and I had spent the week turning a four foot long ratchet, climbing up ladders with 200 lbs on my shoulders and regularly lifting and carrying 2-300 lbs that even some of the men would have asked a buddy to help with. I maintained my 116 lb frame with no extra effort. Catherine also has three little ‘reducing machines’ that she chases after. Watching her run (in espadrilles) after little Louis made me smile with memories. I did read somewhere that her hair care routine is pretty extensive so I have to be satisfied with my wash’nwear curly hair. It wasn’t until my late 30’s when I returned to school to finish a degree that there was any change in physique. Sedentary ,lifestyles and age (read hormones) will destroy a perfect figure.
SwishyFishy said…
I would love for the Queen to revoke the title when the divorce happens, but I don't thinks she will because Meghan will scream racism from the top of Big Ben.
Ava C said…
Hi SwampWoman - I meant 'grotesque' in a Baby Jane sense, which is extreme, but possible. Vivien Leigh is my favourite actress of all time but this was even beginning to happen to her, very slightly, near the end of her life when she continued to use the kittenish, good little girl smile (which she practiced to perfection to get the role of Scarlett and was a conscious mannerism). She had aged prematurely a great deal by then, wholly understandably, and that smile had become really unsettling.

What's odd though is that Meghan didn't seem to be using the winsome act at the time of her engagement to Harry, to me anyway. On the contrary, she was obviously the dominant one, her pre-Harry stuff was hard as nails, and she wanted to come across as efficient and 'insanely smart'. So why the Mary Pickford act now? (Tells you something when you have to go that far back to find a similar image). It's so badly judged and so odd. Maybe she's channelling the late Queen Mother who used flowery OTT charm to divert people away from her massive spending!
SwishyFishy said…
I think Meghan wants the Kardashian influencer celebutard type because of the merching. She wants to make money off her fame. The mystery and allure of old Hollywood and royalty eludes her way of thinking. It is not what she's chasing. It's all about the money money money. She's truly a fame-whore.
@Neutral, also read up on Borderline Personality Disorder. Maybe even Histrionic Personality Disorder. Our dear Meghan is a Cluster B pin up girl.
SwishyFishy said…
She started the doe eyed ingenue stuff after the engagement. I still remember her face as she struggled to properly curtsy to the Queen as Christmas, when she wore her poop emoji hat. It was so overplayed and exaggerated. She's truly a terrible actress, trying to play Bambi.
SwishyFishy said…
I think this is what annoys me the most. Meghan IS awful, but so is Harry. However, all will be forgiven of him after the divorce, his PR will push out stories and his popularity will rise again. How can people not see that they are now looking at the real Harry and it's not a goofy, charming, charismatic prince. He's a mess, and an ugly mess at that. He's also aged considerably since the marriage, not to mention his hygiene looks suspect every time he shows up for an engagement in a crumpled grey suit and shoes with mismatched laces and holes in them. I don't see how he can ever get that good time party lad back because as he pushes 40, all those old behaviors will look pathetic, immature, phony and dated. I think there are also addiction issues that he is hiding.
SwishyFishy said…
My MM Fatigue is definitely worsening. I come here, the Harry Markle blog and check out a few sites and youtube videos but every DM article is a chore. It's all lies anyway as they rarely are interested in printing an honest assessment of the Sussexes and what's really going on. For example, the latest article...Meghan and Harry spend £4000 on a BBQ and patio because they want cosy outdoor gatherings, just like you and me. Are you fucking kidding me? And God help them if the taxpayer paid for it.
Ava C said…
Yes you're right SwishyFishy. That was a sign of things to come.

I've just read an obscure little story called Pink and White Tyranny by Harriet Beecher Stowe (free online on Gutenberg). About a fake, doe-eyed, frivolous, spendthrift 'young woman' who gets a hard-working, rich but benevolent man to marry her. All her behaviour is put down to her youth - and her husband has to excuse a lot as she causes chaos and discomfort in his house and financially ruins him. His sister tries to hint that she must be older than she says as she's been on the social scene so many years, but she gets nowhere. Then he finds her true age from the record in her family bible and suddenly he can see her for what she is. The story's from the 19th century but still rings true. Shows that illusory youth is a powerful card to play for an unscrupulous woman.
Suzanne Wilson said…
Doesn't anyone proofread anymore? You know, read over what they've typed out and correct any errors before pressing "send"?
SwishyFishy said…
Firstly, yes, good genes. Secondly, highly motivated for athletics. She has always loved sports since she was a child. Thirdly, she loves running, tennis and does Pilates. Fourthly, she and Pippa both love sports and will work out together, so she has a ready made work out/gym partner (Said gym is located in the basement of KP), and fifthly, she has been known to exercise in some way shape or form for up to 5 hours a day. Maybe less now that she has 3 kids and is doing a few more engagements (I am one of those people that think she is a bit workshy, but she is improving). Most of us dont' have that kind of time or energy.
SwishyFishy said…
P.S. As for the shiny, shiny hair, you can look in the archives of the Daily Mail as her stylist did a one off article a few years ago to let the press know what she uses on Kate's hair to make it look so good. It's a lot of stuff. She has great hair in general, but there's a lot of things that go into that look. She doesn't wake up with that hair.
SwishyFishy said…
That article also mentioned the Diana butterfly earrings. There is a video by Celt News where she shows clearly that these are dupes. They look like Diana's earrings, but they are not. The wing shape, antennae and a few other things are different. Meghan is wearing falsies. Something is definitely up with their marriage if Harry took Diana's jewelry away from her. I bet the bracelet is a copy as well.
@Swishy, Murky fatigue indeedy, I know the feeling all too well, the DM is like one long PR campaign to shove her down our throats. Reading the ‘moderated’ and non moderated comments, over and over people aren’t buying it.

The royals will gladly let us the British tax payers pay, that amount of self-entitlement comes with most of the royals.
Jdubya said…
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/oliver--rain-attends-our-royal-baby-book-launch-300916456.html

https://www.amazon.com/Our-Royal-Baby-Sue-McMillan-ebook/dp/B00DY5XISO

Sue McMillan is about Kate/William and "oliver" is about Harry & Meghan

?????
Mrs Trestle said…
As a British taxpayer, I don't feel guilty at all in criticising Markle despite her association with this charity because her behaviour is/has been so appalling throughout this whole farce, and at the end of the day my taxes help to keep her in the style to which she has so rapidly become accustomed.
As regards her 'work' with this particular charity, I believe Smart Works will come to regret letting her go down this particular track. It was obvious that this entire exercise by Markle was to give her yet another public platform in order to keep her profile in the forefront. It hasn't worked because the public backlash is evident. I found her behaviour on the day and her speech both patronising and condescending.
The charity itself is a bit of a mystery to me although on one occasion I did donate. You can't donate directly you have to be 'asked' by the charity's 'partners'. It says it works with underprivileged women, but I was told that it was to help professional women (what about men?) back into the workplace after a period away. You cannot apply for help directly only via its agents and you have to have a job interview lined up. You will only be helped on a single occasion ie if you fail the interview you can't go back. There are better ways to help people back into employment than this and its website raises more questions than it answers. I decided that it would not be one of my charities.
On a general note I think it would be a good idea to give taxpayers a box to tick on their income tax forms if they are happy to contribute to the costs of a Monarchy. That would concentrate minds, but that's a debate for another day.
Mrs Trestle said…
I have never heard of Charles directly employing, on a permanent basis, a PR firm. He did employ for several years a highly accomplished Communications person, Mark Bolland, who was headhunted by Charles from his (Mark's) position as CEO of the then Press Complaints Commission. Mark was essentially brought in to develop the strategy of rehabilitating both Charles's and Camilla's reputations with the public and getting the public to accept Camilla as a married partner for Charles. As we can see he was somewhat successful. Mark Bolland stayed 7 years or so before leaving to start his own Comms Agency.
Mrs Trestle said…
Ava C, your analogy with Vivien Leigh is spot on and it's interesting that since her death it has been admitted that she was suffering from schizophrenia.
Mrs Trestle said…
Swishy, I agree with your analysis 100% and, like you, this angers me also. Harry has always been a particularly unpleasant individual with some very nasty habits, but the Palace PR always kept most of it/them well hidden. After this is all over (and I think that will be sooner rather than later) they'll rehabilitate him and the British people will welcome him back with open arms. I shan't be one of them.
abbyh said…
Mrs. Trestle: That's an interesting plot twist - that the charity has all these conditions for them to help you on their terms and you only get that one shot. I would think that people in need may not have had the practice or the right skills to nail it that time. That splashes them in a different light than I had been thinking.

Perhaps all the conditions of her campaign (short, limited, etc) fit both agendas?
none said…
Great point Swishy! Harry IS awful. Could be part of the reason the Queen is letting this play out. To make everyone feel some sympathy for him. Perhaps MM's antics alone will rehab Harry's reputation. I'm in the US, but have become fascinated by this drama and look through the news daily to see if there is some new tidbit to dissect. Thanks so much Nutty for this blog. Really enjoying it!
SwampWoman said…
ROFL LOL @gabes_human! I, too, used to do construction work in the very hot, humid conditions on the Florida side of the gulf. There's nothing like wheelbarrowing concrete, wielding a sledgehammer, and lifting and carrying heavy objects all day to build muscle and burn fat.
@Swishy, you only have to look at old telly footage to see Harry possessing resentment and anger for the life he has. Not forgetting he’s a petulant and spoilt man-child. I’m absolutely sure if he hated being a royal so much and all that entails, he could have said, this isn’t for me and made his own way in the world. Instead, I suspect he’s rather like his Great Aunt Princess Margaret who didn’t want to give up her lavish tax payer lifestyle and the perks of being a royal, for a man she loved and become one of the commoners.
Girl with a Hat said…
Yankee Wally on youtube says that the dress in the awful collection was actually in Marks and Spencer's catalogue for 2018 so it was just a way of getting rid of old inventory.
Girl with a Hat said…
this has come out before. I can't remember when but I think it was the DM that had an article about how the earrings weren't the real ones. I don't think Harry ever gave her Diana's jewellery.
Girl with a Hat said…
there's a picture on twitter I saw that revealed a lot about Harry. William, Catherine and Harry are sitting all in a row possibly in a sports stadium. William is speaking to the man beside him and Catherine is speaking over Harry to the man next to Harry. Harry has his arms crossed over his chest and has the biggest sulking face I have ever seen on a grown man and is looking straight ahead.

The image is truly unsettling because he looks like a very upset child in a man's body. He looks a little younger than he does now, but William and Catherine seem to be married so, not so long ago.
NeutralObserver said…
Kate is a naturally beautiful English rose, from a wealthy, albeit self-made, great-looking family which seems highly functional & very affectionate towards its offspring. I know Brits are big snobs about self-made wealth & having the pedigree & educational markers of class, & the Middletons probably came in for a lot of snide comments at one time, but one look at the Cambridge kids confirms that William did his family a big favor genetically. Kate seems to be an authentically happy & loving wife & mother. She met William when quite young & has had a pretty sheltered & traditional life. That's more than ok, & she shouldn't be sneered at because of it.

Megs, by contrast, is Hollywood through & through. She has a colorful family ( no pun intended at all!), but even someone from the most stable & supportive background would have problems coming through that cesspool unscathed. The American entertainment industry doesn't really provide much in terms of emotional & moral mooring. I know not everyone in Hollywood is a monster by any means, but caveat emptor to anything or anyone from that environment. It's not just Hollywood, its decades of me-me-meism, Oprah Winfrey self-help stuff about 'being your own best friend' has permeated the culture. I recently saw a rerun of an interview of Bill Clinton, whom I have come to view as morally reprehensible & despicable, that didn't prevent me from once again falling for his aw-shucks charm & verbal facility. He's truly a ghastly human being who wasted his talents, but there are lot of people like him out there, and one of them has invaded the stoic & dutiful royal family of Britain. Megs isn't the first horrible royal, but its fascinating to see her lay waste to the careful image the British royals have tried to build up since the days of Queen Victoria.
Girl with a Hat said…
there was an article floating around at the express about how Camilla was opposed to William marrying Catherine because "she was dim". LOL.
Liver Bird said…
I read that too. In fact the more I read about this 'initiative' the tackier it seems and the more surpised I am that a very British brand like M&S would go along with it. In the long run I suspect it will do more harm than good to Smartworks which is sad. It's basically just another Meg vanity merching project designed to promote her and her 'friends', which is the opposite of what royal patronage of a charity is meant to be.

How long before she moves on to 'better' things and Smartwords gets ghosted?
Emily said…
SwishyFishy I've no idea how we can find out if they have been fired. As for the photo of Meghan, the carpet burns on her knees, omg lol. Surely now that's the divorce on it's way. Serena would have her for breakfast if there was anything going on with her husband.
You have to wonder if anything will be done while they are in Africa, like the foundation split, which was announced while they were in Morocco.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR-89OryvCc
Emily said…
Beth, Kate was on an engagement at a school, and a teenage girl curtsied to her after shaking her hand. Kate said it was a good curtsey but she didnt need to do that with her. Kate is just happy to shake hands and leave it at that. Suppose there is nothing she can do if a person decides to curtsey
Emily said…
Meghan is about 43yrs old. Her classmates are that age. She has admitted knocking a few years off her age. Said it helped when going for acting jobs. There were also rumours that Harry and Meghan had secretly got married in Africa, which is why Eugenie had to let Harry get married first and the RF couldn't do anything about it. It could also explain why someone with her past was able to marry someone that close to the throne at that time. If they did, it would be covered up with threats of legal action if it ever was published. Could also explain why she gets away with so much. Stop her and she will blab.
KayeC said…
When I looked at the "collection," I decided that I was not going to put my bias against MM into my critique. Here is what I saw....

1. The white shirt. First thing I noticed was no bust darts. Women have curves, that's why our clothes are patterned different than mens. A button blouse without some kind of darts in the bust area looks just like a men's shirt (which are not hard to make). It gives you no shape, and an oversized one tucked into cigarette pants looks like.....well she showed us what it looks like....you have a diaper on. I thought it was sloppy, and I think that's what an interviewer would think too.

2. The black pants. Black pants are an essential in a woman's closet, but cropped ones? If it's cold, do you want your ankles out? There was nothing wrong with them in terms of design, they just don't seem pratical for year-round use.

3. The sacks...I mean dresses. Again, where are the lines, seams or darts to give shape? The tucks at the neck would make large breasted women the look of pregnancy. I saw a pic of it belted, and that is the only way it should be worn. You have to highlight your waste to give shape, or it's a sack.

4. The jacket. Nothing wrong with a leather jacket, just not sure how this goes into a capsule collection for workwear.

5. The bag. It's made of leather (thought she was against that....just kidding, I know that was a lie) and was a nice size. But you can find cheaper, and even more stylish bags at TJMaxx or Marshalls (US) for half the price.

So here is my take, these clothes have NO design to them. I could make them in less than a day with no pattern needed, that is how simple they are. You could go to Walmart, (I'm guessing that's like Primark in the UK) and spend a lot less money and walk-out looking better. True fashionistas don't have to shop high end to look good. A quality fabric goes a lot farther than a brand name.

Now my thoughts on the initiative. To improve these ladies lives, how about teaching them a skill they can use......like sewing. There are so many opportunities out there for seamstresses. Not just in fashion, but also upholstery (even auto upholstery) because these skills are not being passed to younger generations. But that would only make the women money and not MM or her friends.....
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Thank you so much for answering my question, everybody who answered.

The tick box idea for the tax forms is GENIUS. I mean if you vote, you vote. But for an institution nobody elected, that is BRILLIANT. LMAO.

I know some people would tick "I'm okay with paying for the monarchy's living costs and their meals" because I know people do buy royal wedding merchandise (you know those dishes or whatever with the couple's faces printed on it).
Girl with a Hat said…
skills to improve their ability to get a good job - working a cash register, typing, bookkeeping, sewing/making clothing adjustments, short order cooking, driving a forklift, surveying, machine operator
PaulaMP said…
plus who has money to keep sending it to the cleaners if you are just starting out, not to mention can't wear it while it's there
QueenWhitby said…
When I started to dig around to try and understand what makes a narcissist tick, I discovered that destructive criticism actually makes them happy and fills a void within. It’s their way of gaining love and acceptance and makes them feel happy about themselves. Have we not seen this behaviour over and over with MM?

I wonder if this whole exercise in Smartworks is to raise MN ‘s profile and pay her back for her part in getting MM involved with Harry? Honestly if the best MN can do as a designer is come up with a white blouse, she better go back to design school. The Soho designer was given the decoration of Frogmore, Enniful was given the Vogue cover, Mulroney got enough PR to get GMA. Makes you wonder....did she have backers to get her where she is and now she’s paying the piper?

As to the speculation above about how Kate stays so thin and glossy haired - she’s active and healthy. I’ve seen photos of her and Wills heading to the gym and out for long walks, she’s very sporty, and it has been divulged that Kate, her mom, and her sister Pippa follow a low carb regime.
Teasmade said…
There was also that report by a cousin of hers (I think) who said that if it wasn't about Kate herself, she wasn't interested. I do believe this, and it goes along with "dim." We often point out here how none of the family is a rocket scientist, so really, would a more cerebral, accomplished woman have been interested in joining it? I think not.

I think it's possible we are all going overboard in the pro-Kate topic just by comparison.

Not to take anything away from her enviable figure or haircare/extensions routine : )
Girl with a Hat said…
I've read that Kate exerrcises for hours every single day. And Pippa walks around with ankle weights so tone her legs. Apparently, Melania Trump does the same. All of these women work hard to look good but they also know how to take advantage of their natural assets.
QueenWhitby said…
Well Mischi you may be right but all I can say is I’m skeptical about what “I’ve read” ever since MM came along, so I stick to what I know is verifiable.
Girl with a Hat said…
no, we aren't going overboard on Kate. Even as someone who wasn't married to a man who will be king, she deserves some respect. She has bounced back from three terrible pregnancies very quickly without us hearing a word of complaint.

She has had terrible morning sickness every time she was pregnant but decided to have more children, even though it meant months of horrible feelings.

She looks like she is in great shape.

She and William look happy and have never had a situation where they looked like they weren't getting along. With the eyes of the world upon her!

I could go on, but you get the picture. Every time I see her, I remark on her poise, her dedication to her role in the BRF and also to her husband, children and family.
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