Not much appears to be going on. Living Legends came and went without fanfare ... what's the next event? Super Bowl - Sunday February 11th? Oscar's - March 10th? In the mean time, some things are still rolling along in various starts and stops like Samantha's law suit. Or tax season is about to begin in the US. The IRS just never goes away. Nor do bills (utility, cable, mortgage, food, cars, security, landscape people, cleaning people, koi person and so on). There's always another one. Elsewhere others just continue to glide forward without a real hint of being disrupted by some news out of California. That would be the new King and Queen or the Prince/Princess of Wales. Yes there are health risks which seemed to come out of nowhere. But. The difference is that these people are calmly living their lives with minimal drama.
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Thank you Nutty for this.
I think something (or somethings) which were not out there before and have now surfaced or threatened to surface which is driving the timing.
And or that they really believe their PR and that they are building on strength to use this to control negative PR by this show of threat.
The DM certainly had a number of positive articles on her. They moderated many articles.
The bully behavior to the critics defeats the concept of Diana 2.0, humanitarian and general all around wonderful person. It does, however, demonstrate the worst traits of woke, SJW and general bossy tyrant.
There has been no bullying or relentless attacks from the media. All reports have come about from their OWN actions. I hope the Mail wins. And then brings Megamerch down big time.
I thought I couldn't dislike more than I did yesterday. It's surprising how she can make me find ways to find more dislike for her. The British people feel the same way. They are totally repulsed.
Harry, isn't that what you two did with Archie, the poor dead girl, Bishop Desmond Tutu? They just don't get it. They are thick as two planks of wood.
I had read a while back, ether here or maybe another forum, a poster basically said on day2 that the positive publicity from the SA tour will make them complacent soon enough and by the end of the tour they won't be able to help themselves and definitely do something dramatic. It's so true, this shit show is predictable.
The Archie card was used to assuage the public who called MM out on leaving him to travel for a tennis match and a wedding. That's also why she is always seen carrying him and not Harry. It's why she always mentions that their schedule is planned around the baby's , and when noone made note of it, she kept mentioning that till they wrote a damn article about it.
The rewears and going to the artists Hamlet and buying jeans their, that's to deflect from her overspending and hypocrisy about environmental issues. A lot of people made of the stupid brown trench dress saying she basically has the same one but didn't rewear as she can't fit into it, lo and behold wears her older longer brown trench dress for her engagement today's. She/someone is definitely reading blogs such as this one and LSA because she has pointedly done a.few things to prove the harshest criticism wrong.
The only thing she can't/won't compromise on is her feud with her father. That's now the only negative comment that still remains on their Ig comments section. And they used a clever way of tackling that by suing Dm over the letter publication. That helps them reiterate that the press and her father are both evil and out to get her.
He looks shattered today. She’s smiling like the Cheshire Cat but he looks absolutely miserable.
Wonder what actually happened behind the scenes for that sort of animosity to be there between a dad and daughter. Mind you, both are sleazy and famehungry, so they should get along like two peas in a pod. This whole lawsuit scene though... *Eyeroll*
I saw this on LSA: "Lawyers for both H&M and Mail have been in contact since February 2019 Failed to reach an out of court settlement, high court filed the suit on Monday which meant the suit would’ve been made public today (Wednesday) so the Sussex’s felt forced to publicly acknowledge it. If it ends up at a hearing/trial H&M may have to give evidence. Consequences and fall out could affect the whole Royal Family.''
I know. The body language between these two is so transparently off. He rarely looks relaxed with her.
What’s disturbing about this is that Meghan is playing on Harry’s emotions from his mother’s death by gouging open any healing that may have taken place for Harry in the years since she died. As a young boy, Harry couldn’t save Diana. I the inability to protect his mother is likely a key part of Harry’s wounds and anger issues.
Meghan is cruelly reopening his wounds to the fullest by playing damsel in distress so Harry can rescue and protect the fragile little Flower Meghan as a substitute for his mother. Meghan knows it is a weakness, so she exploits it to the hilt for herself.
I was recently involved in a case where the opposing lawyer outright lied and cited selected parts of jurisprudence to the judge, whereas the next paragraph which wasn't cited completely invalidated his argument.
Law isn't about who is right and who is wrong. It's a set of rules, and the person who can best use these rules to their advantage wins.
Is this a money grab by the Sucks Sexes?
Based on their previous actions, I would say yes, it is.
I wonder if she is getting guidance from one of those litigious celebrities.
I can't imagine what these nasty comments do to a self-absorbed, narcissistic personality but it must be causing angst in the extreme. I imagine she cries and rages to Harry and threatens to leave him if it doesn't stop. "This is NOT what I signed up for. I am supposed to be adored by all and allowed to wear a tiara anytime I want and to spend as much as I want on designer clothes. Isn't that what being a Princess of the United Kingdom is all about?" This is Haz's way of trying something, anything, in a desperate attempt to appease her. Speaking of Harry, WTF is wrong with him in this video? Drunk, all hopped up on pills, hungover, all of the above? https://ladygreyhound93.tumblr.com/post/188084727725
I do think, however, that this is may be about keeping herself in the news with all the news about Brexit overshadowing her.
If that's the case, expect to hear about other strange actions from now until October 31st and beyond, if Brexit does happen. We can't have Megsie overshadowed by a national emergency, now, can we?
On a more serious note, I wonder how things are over there. It must be quite tense between the sucks and the royal reporters on the tour right now. I'm guessing the RR won't be allowed to ask any questions related to the lawsuit, and they would not be entertained even if they do. The RRs must be pissed!
If they are money trees, I will allow it. (grin)
@HappyDays I had to laugh at Harry (the statement someone wrote for Harry) talking about being ‘commoditised.’ The entire purpose of breaking away from the foundation with William and Kate to create the Sussex Royal foundation and the Sussex Royal IG account was to create the Sussex Royal brand for themselves, which is exactly what Harry was disparaging in his statement. They have ‘commoditised’ themselves. These two are hypocrites of the highest order.
Very well put. I think the outrage is that the peasants are stating the obvious mixed with a large dose of how DARE the press not shut up and pay?
I was afraid she was pregnant but after seeing her today, I think she may have tried to play the is she pregnant game with the press but no one was biting. Her belly has shrunk considerably since yesterday.
We can all breathe a sigh of relief, and that includes Harry and Archie, that she doesn't seem to be expecting.
If MM is breastfeeding, and the tour is truly based around his feeding times, then all she had to do was let Harry take the lead and go to events after Archie ate, or pump and leave a bottle with the nanny. Was Archie's nap time a priority for the tour as well? It's much harder to predict than breastfeeding, in my opinion. Or was this only something the nanny thought about?
https://twitter.com/sage1411/status/1179391390209495040
This is the reason why I don't think Harry even wrote the darn thing. While he truly is clueless, she is the one that did everything with the Sussex Royal this and that. I imagine, for the most part, he wasn't even aware that she did most of the things she did until it was made public. I think even with this lawsuit, my thinking is she made the move to sue, and he found out the same way we all did. Which is why he looks like excrement today, and she's beaming from ear to ear.
None of this makes sense, from the Firm on down either....
The libertarian political site Spiked Online has a vicious take on the Sussex lawsuit:
"There is a striking irony in The Harry and Meghan Show. This pair present themselves as a new kind of royal: chilled out, PC, green, more likely to visit a Peckham radio station run by struggling youths than a cake-making charity run by women with blue-rinsed helmet hair. And yet scrape away their chilled, chatty veneer and what we have here are two of the most elitist and snobby royals in the Windsor household. And that’s saying something.
"Consider Prince Harry’s outrageous statement about the tabloid press, published yesterday. Its censoriousness and elitism are staggering. It echoes the pre-1960s period in which the monarchy arrogantly assumed it could bully the media into telling only happy, agreeable stories about royal personages. It drips with contempt for the tabloid press in particular. Harry describes Meghan as ‘one of the latest victims of [the] British tabloid press’, which apparently pumps out ‘relentless propaganda’ that is designed to ‘manipulate you, the reader’.
"Oh gracious prince, please save us gullible plebs from manipulation by evil newspapers! What a pompous ass he is."
It continues in the same vein. Not for the lily-livered.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/10/02/harry-and-meghans-war-on-press-freedom/
"What Harry refers to as tabloid ‘bullying’ is really just strong, colourful criticism. Criticism of Harry and Meghan’s lifestyles, of their hypocrisy (remember when they lectured us about the environment and then flew around on private jets?), of their PC nonsense, of their extravagance. This legal action seems designed to send a message that such heated coverage is unacceptable. Who do these people think they are?"
"Harry and Meghan are fair game for criticism and ridicule. If you are going to be a woke royal who spouts eco-pieties from the pulpit of Vogue magazine and then takes a private jet to lounge about in Elton John’s house in France, you’re going to get a lot of flak. Suck it up."
He looks exhausted though, and grumpy again. Must have been quite a night post the statement being out out, with the frantic back stage crisis management that must have gone on across SA and UK. Good thing Meg's got fillers. Crises or not she will always look fresh as a petal (not!)
He needs to step up his yoga. That kama sutra must not be working out for him.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7528951/PIERS-MORGAN-Harry-Meghan-brought-negative-press-yourselves.html
I should add that this is based on Private Eye articles from a few years ago (I stopped subscribing).
Basically the editors of the DM and the Mail on Sunday (yes they are different people with different editorial views and standpoints on various issues) absolutely hate each other. Don't be fooled into thinking they are the same corporate entity.
Oh yes, I agree too, hardly a success, and the PR SS keep trying to convince us otherwise! Lol
As much as I'd like to see the DM and the MonS ignore the Sussexes entirely and see how they like it, there's just too much money involved.
Right now there are almost 10,000 comments on the DM article about the lawsuit. Assuming that most of those posters clicked several times to see themselves and see what everyone else was saying, that is a lot of eyeballs to sell to advertisers.
Not sure how many lurkers the DM has, but for example, on the first half of this thread on this blog we had 4000 clicks but just 200 comments.
If the 20:1 ratio is the same for the DM, we're looking at 200,000 clicks on a single Harkle story. Probably many more.
Oh, dear. I've just realized that I have spent waaay too much time reading all of the comments and the links online re this silly lawsuit. In the meantime, I was SUPPOSED to be coding some projects for the CNC machine AND buying a washing machine to replace the one that expired with a whimper yesterday (observing moment of silence for washing machine). So far, I have done neither. I must tear myself away from the computer and go expiate my sins now.
It would be really useful if MM merched some household appliances but I don't suppose royalty does laundry.
I don't think so.
Thank you for this, it got a bit frustrating to see other posters applying another countries laws as the UK’s. I commented on your last post how this lawsuit is seen under U.K. law. It was from what I heard this morning on a radio programme.
I imagine there is also a contingent of white women (probably most of the ladies on celebitchy) who have a case of white guilt, therefore feel the need to point out how her life has been SO horrible because she's mixed (even though her life has been better than most folks) and therefore every slight against her is because *GASP* she's mixed and therefore scream RACISM. They will never see anything she does as being "wrong" because she's so perfect, and look at them for being so tolerant and kind for sticking up for the mixed race girl. In their minds, they are the heroes for calling out racists!
That's what I see when I got to that site, anyway.....
First of all, Meghan's Mirror has the info before it even appears. There were instances where we couldn't even see what she was wearing clearly in press photos, but Meghan's Mirror had all the info about company, model number, etc.
Secondly, what mother holds her child that tightly and prevents him from moving his arms so that photographers can see her face?
I think you're one of those Meghan sugars.
I had to share an apartment in Geneva with an African-American woman and some African interns working at the WHO. I got along famously with the Africans. I always do. I come from a very sociable country and I can relate to people who have the same type of background.
The African American woman, however, would try to pull stuff like claiming the living room as her new bedroom. The reason she thought she could get away with it because she thought she could play on my white guilt. But my ancestors were poor peasants and half of them came from countries where we weren't involved in colonialism, let alone slavery. In fact, they were like slaves in their own countries, so that s**t didn't work with me. She was very puzzled as I think she had been getting away with this all of her life.
R,e, merching: I'm not sure if you saw HandM's ad featuring Archie/MM and PH so whilst there is no direct merching link at the moment, there is definitely some strange stuff going on which is previously unheard of.
The only thing that has gone wrong is the Range Rover story which only serves to show their 'do as I say don't do as I do' fake preachy image in an even brighter light.
As for PH, not sure what he has done on this trip really?
Impeccable, no.
The attire at the mosque was inappropriate (hair not covered well, arms showing) and I believe she touched men who were not her husband (to shake hands or hug). This is not done. Ever. Just because she might have done something similar in LA does not mean it is acceptable outside LA, outside the USA.
The getting women to sit on the floor when culturally they only get to sit on the floor is funerals is ... well rude at best. It would be almost as if I invited you over for dinner but made you all sit in the laundry room, not formal dining room.
"The media release information about Meghans clothes the minute the stories hit. ". This is incorrect. No one can beat the speed with which Meghan's Mirror posts her items, with direct links to the shopping sites. They have even posted a link to the tea cups that she allegedly used to serve tea to her make up artist.
So you don’t think it was weird how Meghan was holding up so called used clothes of Archie’s and then making sure everyone got a good look......a bit like her ‘Deal or No deal’ gig she had. We didn’t see Catherine standing by the Flybe ad on the plane and pointing at it. Something was very off with the whole Archie and H&M clothes. The royals aren’t allowed to advertise, but it does appear that Meghan tries to monetise on anything she can get away with...seems she didn’t for this.
The HandM stuff is not conclusive but it's DEFINITELY odd. You're right that the DM has links to clothes that she wears (think they do it for many other people too).
But HandM would know that they can't use images like that and yet they did. Considering that MM seems intent on monetising her 'status' then it looks like something odd is going on but nothing conclusive at all. Yet.
Good balanced posts though. I have been accused of being some sort of plant for not going full on into some of the theories. I have no idea whether MM held her baby incorrectly, or that it doesn't recognise her etcetc. I firmly believe it's that sort of stuff that gives the idea that she is being bullied a bit of ammunition IMO. Others clearly disagree, and we're all entitled to that.
She wore one dress from an African designer and what does "ethical" clothing even mean? Clothes and textiles are one of the biggest pollutants on the earth, sucking up water and fuel , polluting the waterways and filling the landfills. There is nothing about clothing that is ethical. I love fashion but never pretend that it is good for the environment or humanity.
As for everything being under 200 pounds, this is not factually true. The green dress that she wore yesterday, for example, was close to $500 Canadian. But besides that, there was an article from a South African journalist commenting on how insulting it was that she dressed down for them.
Yes of course, her wearing 90k dresses and having million dollar baby showers flies in the face of her woman of the people schtick. She clearly thinks people are stupid but I've noticed one thing that is the same in politics nowadays. In the Blair/Clinton years it was all about occupying the middle ground and wooing the floating voter. Now politicians, and MM/PH, are all about not bothering about the middle ground, or trying to change the minds of people who don't like them. They have realised that the audinece that likes them is enough to sustain them. It doesn't matter what they do, if they can blame racism/sexism then enough people will nod in agreement wothout looking at anything the pair would have done in order to attract criticism. Same with the all female Ghostbusters film (it was terrible and women happened to be in it)-forget trying to win over everyone, just make sure that 'your' audience is on board and that will sustain you.
Hope that makes sense, I haven't proof read it!
Wearing tight blue jeans with a sleeveless, semi transparent top with black bra showing was so inappropriate and disrespectful... and un Royal.
Many here are of the opinion that everything MM does is for attention. That doesn't mean we aren't willing to give her the benefit, we just see it for what it is...PR machinations. She dressed "down" in SA, but not because she felt she had been overdoing it, but rather because she was told it would help her image. I'm sorry, but you don't get a gold star for doing something because someone said you'd be more popular if you do. She doesn't really want to change, but knows she has to in order to get the adoration she desires.
Nice suit, nice shoes, hair in place. It looks like H&M sent a stylist to make sure the prince looked good for the paid product placement and the ad.
It's not like Harry was looking good only to meet Desmond Tutu. Today, meeting Nelson Mandela's widow, the blue suit was back but the stylist was not. Rumpled hair, no tie.
Love this blog, Nutty, and all of you! 🐛
However, you are wrong about the requirements for a non-Muslim visiting a mosque.
Long sleeves are required for both men and women who visit mosques, as are long skirts and/or trousers. Meg's short sleeves were a no-go.
(One of many sources I found in a quick search: https://www.learnreligions.com/etiquette-of-visiting-a-mosque-2004463)
Actually, the same is true for many Catholic and Orthodox Christian churches - tourists are discouraged from wearing shorts, for example.
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As for her hair during the mosque visit - as I said on the day Meg and Harry visited, how much hair should be covered depends on the local tradition.
In Pakistan, for example, the scarf is loosely draped and the hair at the front of the head can be clearly seen; in other places, it must completely cover the head.
What is inappropriate is to have "sexy hair" on your mosque visit, with pretty tendrils dripping out the front as Meg did. This would have been a good time for the bun hairstyle she wore on several other days of the South African trip.
I can't believe that Meg's Foreign Office lackey, Fiona McUnspellablename, didn't give Meg some better guidance about what to wear to the mosque. Maybe she did and Meg did not listen.
Again, we are all here because we see her machinations for what they are, purely PR bunk. She's not innocent or naive, she's a calculated liar who can no longer keep track of all the lies.
@Nutty, I think you are absolutely right about the Archbishop Meet n Greet being set up by H&M, Harry did look put together that day, and has not looked that good since. Does make you wonder.....
The trip has not gone well - even if you forgive all Meg's missteps, Harry has been an embarassing mess. The crowds were not big, and from every independent report we've received, the South Africans were not impressed.
I wonder why Piers wrote that. Party line? Soften the blow? Part of lawsuit defense? Mysterious.
Unfortunately, the engagement was supposed to be about highlighting the importance of inter-faith respect, tolerance and co-operation (and Cape Town is a good example of how that can be achieved, albeit after hundreds of years) and that message was completely lost and thus the engagement achieved nothing other than another photo opportunity for Megsy.
This lawsuit is going to be messy and dominate the headlines, and is going to be all about poor Megsy. I think folk in the BRF have drunk the koolaid and will support her in this (horrible bullying press, rather than looking at the actual issue, that she is accusing the media outlet of publishing a redacted letter rather than the full letter, plus another couple of complaints they have strung together, and that the media outlet to give her the payout, apology, plus whatever else she demanded, and so she has decided to proceed with a lawsuit). It is messy 🤦♀️
In fact, questioning yourself like that is a symptom of gaslighting which is a narc specialty
I doubt anyone saw her accoutrement as a sign of respect.
It's frustrating that there is no hard evidence rather than just joining dots. If MM wasn't what she is (imagine it was Kate Middleton) then it's arguable that our musings would look a bit paranoid. But due to her actions over the last few years then it all adds up.
If she is merching then I hope she gets found out extremely quickly. Her and PH will be done here and they can move to the USA.
As an aside, please can people stop sniping at those who don't go in at the same level of criticism as some posters on here. It doesn't help the tone of the blog, we're all roughly on the same page and it's ok to have a different opinion, it doesn't mean you're some sort of spy.
Weren't you the one insisting that Harry's grey suit was perfectly ok when people are calling him "Duke of the wrinkled suit" on twitter?
As someone who's worked in the media industry, it's always fascinating to me to watch big media brands destroy themselves via PR placements or just lazy reporting, whether it's Vogue, Harper's Bazaar, People, CNN, the New York Times, or the DM.
Of course, no one really ever trusted the DM in the first place, so it didn't have as far to fall.
I also agree that the best press M&H could hope to have is of the reconciliation between M & her dad. How about sending the press a family shot of baby Archie sitting on Grandpa Markle’s knee with H&M looking happy in the background towards the grandson-grandfather interaction??
By her own admission, and I believe this was on her Tig blog but I could be wrong, MM's father treated her well. I suspect she has lots of hostility towards her father because he has said things that contradict what she says about her college tuition. He has also said he has bank statements to prove that he did pay for it. So who is lying?
Doria appears to be the favored family member, but she never speaks to the press and only pops up here and there. I think it is very telling that her own family tried to warn Harry not to marry her. Usually family will cover for each other or ignore faults. According to them, she tore their family apart. And what has happened?
Honestly, when 10,000 people say that Harry's suit is a disgrace and another 10,000 say that she looked a mess at the mosque, do you think that we need to discuss it any further? And to do so plays into their ploy of stopping any criticism of her, so I will continue to ignore these people. They are not here to further discussion but to bog it down.
I learned about her in my college days and while studying to become a paralegal. I'd was so naïve until I read her books and expert testimony in court. Even so much as a cursory glimpse of Loftus will help you understand the gas lighting Megs uses to get what she wants all the time, every day, no matter who she has to ruin in the process. She has to have "command."
Those of you who are disagreeing about Meg's on here are cracking me up. You remind me of my sisters when they all go at it, one of whom is a full blown narcissist like Megs. And that sister can't stand Megs either because as she says, "It takes one to know one..." ha haa haaa.
I don't know when I made that comment about the book on Camilla and that particular statement that Camilla had made. About ' heart being shattered into a million pieces' or something like that. First I thought the author was Penny Junor, then corrected and possibly added Caroline Graham.
In any event ,that went unnoticed, now I take back my comment about not caring too much about the letter and legal action.
Why the flying f$&k does she stuff her bra with huge padding one day, remove it the next, stuff it even more the following day, shampoo (not that it looks like the wigs get shampooed,) rinse, repeat? When many days she has been wearing the exact same type of wrap trench dress, so the padding or lack of padding just makes her look like an actress in a budget movie with zero wardrobe staff? She looks bizarre!
Same for the butt padding. The big butt one day, no butt the next, oh! The butt is back for part of the day. Now it’s gone again is utterly insane. She appears severely mentally disabled, mentally ill, or on major illegal substances to pull that stuff.
Lastly, those squinty little beady black bat eyes (and that’s a discredit to bats, who are cute!) are annoying as heck. She has NO pupils and most of the time she is so busy squinting with fake smiles that her eyes look even more narrowed, and there is ZERO white area to her eyes. Very unsettling. Where is the more dignified and serious-looking woman who took perfectly fine photos (although admittedly most were with sex kitten poses and clothes,) a woman with open eyes, identifiable pupils and visible white areas to her eyes? Suddenly she needs a major eye lift because she has morphed into Renee Zelwegger. (Although Renee always looked natural and pretty with her original and distinctive narrow eyes; and she actually let her eye lift treatments lapse so she could look more like herself again; and she looks great now.)
Okay, this is REALLY lastly....what is up with the chicken cadaver legs? It’s like someone removed her entire calf muscle. Major deformity made much worse with toweringly high heels since she can’t walk in them and they only draw more attention to one of her more alarming and hideous physical features.
It doesn’t matter what you’re born with, but surely since she has literally spent her entire childhood and adulthood studying flattering lighting and camera angles and makeup and facial expressions and wardrobe, she should have a much more out together look by now? She’s had three years with Harry to perfect an image and style.
She really is Ms. Can’t Do Right or perhaps the Duchess of Dysmorphia, she is so disconnected from the reality of her own body and how it moves through space. Perfectly normal in a non-celebrity; utterly abnormal in a major public figure groomed by Hollywood to always “find her light.”
End rant.
https://spectator.us/please-america-take-meghan-markle-back/
EXCUSE ME...we who have noticed her inappropriate or otherwise strange behaviour are nobodies?! I most assuredly think not!
1. My sister is a Muslim and she stated Meghan's attire and actions at the Mosque was unacceptable and disrespectful,
2. Chiding (even controlling) women (Mothers no less) to sit on the floor. I would of been very insulted to sit on the floor even if it had been the Queen of England demanding.
3. Hogging the limelight away from Prince Harry.
4. Making her 'private ' visit to the young female murder victim memorial captured on film and for her own self-aggrandizement.
5. Her hypercritical pronouncements regarding family when she publically shames her father who generously supported her for so many years and provided her a loving home in which to flourish..
6.. Her inappropriate low cut clothes revealing cleavage when little boys and girls are being in very close proximity to her physically. Can she not dress modest?!
As a 67 yr. old Mother of three, I have never seen any Mother hold a calm baby so forcibly, grabbing its little hand so it can't freely move at all and keeping it squished down on the Mother's chest. It appears she aggressively handles Archie so her face is clear for a photographers shot so many times. Her scowls when negatively reacting to Archie are disturbing to me.
The vast majority of commenters here are concerned about some of these items if not many or all I dare say.
@Nutty yes it was a good read. Now to make it happen :) lol :)
Prince Harry's (Meghan's)? statement yesterday regarding the lawsuit was more coherent than most of the speeches the two of them have given lately, but it's still problematic. I am sorry that the only resolution they see to "Lettergate" is to sue the Mail. This was published half a year ago and I would be surprised if readers continue to reference it, although I suppose they may.
However, it seems like the lawsuit is not so much about the letter but that they are angry how MM has been portrayed in the press. This appears to be a slippery slope, because my pedestrian impression of their statement is "You have treated us poorly, we don't deserve it, so we are digging up something we can litigate over. Copyright will do."
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/10/02/14/19196282-7528145-Meghan_watches_Harry_giving_a_speech-a-545_1570024739739.jpg
Simply (from Wikipedia) -
Poisoning the well is a type of informal fallacy where irrelevant adverse information about a target is preemptively presented to an audience, with the intention of discrediting or ridiculing something that the target person is about to say. Poisoning the well can be a special case of "argumentum ad hominem". The origin of this term lies in well poising - an ancient wartime practice of pouring poison into sources of fresh water before an invading army, to diminish the attacking army's strength.
So an hypothetical theory for you all to ponder - At some point Haz has started to take notice of all the negative news reports about their conduct and especially the shenanigans connected to MM. Even someone in his state (and while I cant prove I agree with others that he seems to be in the grips of either addiction or a mental health issue) has to think about ALL the stuff coming out.
MM being as manipulative and impulsive as she is has turned this around to use his weak spot - What happened to his mother (and his belief that she was pretty much killed by the media) and draw comparisons to herself.
There is a part of the brain chemistry that triggers fight and flight impulse - this usually happens with soldiers and people who have PTSD and keep replaying traumatic events in their brains. It also shuts down the parts of the brain that uses critical thinking, rationality and ability to understand consequences of actions. This means your impulse is to strike out - example...to the very same media who killed your mum?
Just some thoughts :)
It struck me this past week as I've been binge watching Scandal on Netflix, having never watched that show before, how much Megs seems to mirror the lead character Olivia Pope. I thought, naw… it's just me projecting Megs because ya, control freak/fixer type. Then I googled something like, Meghan Markle and Scandal to see if anyone was like minded. Well I'll be darned if Kerry Washington (Olivia), the actress was notified that Megs really admired her and the show, and it was one of her favorites. Kerry was very impressed by the compliment.
I further noticed that Megs mirror Kerry's acting and some of her scripts, along with fashion on the show as well. It's unnerving to see her wearing the very same dress with the cape like top that Kerry wore. And a LOT of trench dresses and coat dresses like Kerry's character as well. But what really struck me is how Megs mirrored a LOT of the same mimicking like the hands to her heart she does all the time, or hand over mouth fake laugh just like Kerry. You know how art imitates life? Well I could see a lot of Meg's behavior in the past 2 years fully imitating and using the Olivia character and story lines in her real life situations. If Megs was a teen and did this, like we all did when we liked a certain actress and wanted to be like her, copying makeup and fashion and maybe repeating some of the lines an actress used, eg. I wanted to be like Sally Field when I was 12. But for a 38 year old woman to do that is a bit much. Maybe I'm crazay, but if you have watched Scandal, let me know if you see the same Single White Female type of cloning going on.
Let me know if you like Loftus. If I was to give a speech about powerful women I admire, she'd be in it along with Anne Hutchinson, an amazing lady who was kicked out of Mass. Bay Colony by her church for having bible study in her home in the 1600's.
I just listed some new printable stickers on Etsy using fonts/clip art that I bought for commercial use complete with license from sites like TheHungryJPEG.com and FontBundles.net, worked 5 hours on the last one... All perfectly legal (and everything else on my shop are either vectors made from scratch/stuff I originally drafted for personal use). Then I wake up this morning and find that my store has been deactivated.
After buying all those font and before I had a chance to break even.
And it reminded of this lawsuit.
I guess I'm taking a break from following this story.
The penal code in my country also just got screwed up and they're criminalising everything from premarital sex to cohabitation and then you have petty Meghan, all she wants is attention and more money than anyone could ever need.
Some people try to make an honest living and get screwed over anyway. Meghan gets to con her way through marrying into her mark's family and is celebrated for it.
Okay.
Too much is going wrong with my life to care.
In my search, I happened upon this one by Pamela Meyer on "How to Spot a Liar". It's a TED talk. Check out around the 13 minute mark when she talks about contempt. Wow! Do we have any photos of MM snarling with one side of her mouth? If so, who's she looking at?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_6vDLq64gE
What I noticed is how Megs mimics Olivia when it comes to all things about being the commander and being in command, too.
@mom Mobile, I'll have to look at that. Thank you. Contempt by an NPD means you're their prey. Harry is going to need some serious help if he ever manages to break free. For now, he's still her flying monkey general.
I've read that Harry's mom also had BPD. I've learned over the years that it is very common for BPDs to either marry or partner with an enabler or Narcissist. There are many traits that over lap between Borderline and Narcissistic Personality Disorders. Long story short: I'm not saying Harry has BPD, but I am saying it makes all sorts of sense that he would marry a narc.
People have given Prince Charles a difficult time about how he treated Diana. I understand why. On the other hand, I think about the time she threw herself down the stairs. I believe she was pregnant at the time? That gives you an idea of how sick she was.
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a23580430/meghan-markle-prince-harry-sussex-survivors-network-charity/
They really should take stock of that. The TRUTH is what is making them look bad. Not lies from the media, despite Harry’s hysterical press release. Their lack of self-awareness is astonishing. If the media were lying, this would be a defamation case and they’d make some bucks.
It seems like the Sussexes have a copyright claim but they will have a hell of a hard time showing actual damages. It’s not like this was a piece that Meghan was planning to publish commercially and now she has suffered financial loss because the Mail beat her to press. So maybe they’ll win (unless a court reads Harry’s statement lashing out at the “unfair press” and sees this as a way to stifle the press and decides not to play that game) but they will probably be awarded nominal damages. Even if Meghan claims damage to her reputation and brand, how much damage did it cause? Can she show lost sponsorships or opportunities? She’ll have to show an actual amount. Again, in a defamation case, courts would be willing to award punitive damages. Less likely in a copyright case (unless perhaps theft were involved. Someone broke in and stole the letter and the Mail published it. Punitive damages would be more likely there). Maybe a court would be so sympathetic to Little Orphan Harry they award big damages as a slap at the big, bad press. I don’t know enough about the UK judicial climate to speculate.
But winning a case like this isn’t the same thing as winning it BIG. My dream scenarios is they win nominal damages and they have to pay their attorney fees.
Harry needs to ask himself why the press is so mean to his tungsten feminist and not to Catherine. He may think it’s racism, but at some point he may wake up and recognize that nothing they’re printing is falsifiable.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10055044/prince-harry-william-charles-press-rant-meghan-markle/
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/dangerous-new-territory-why-prince-harrys-extraordinary-move-poses-a-huge-risk-for-the-royals/news-story/e125660ed53e87c1e743977cfbb33500
Ma publication a été effacée. Je n'en reviens pas. Vous êtes toutes des enfants de maternelle. Chacun a droit à son opinion. Certaines sont drastiques et d'autres sont plus mitigées. Je vois bien qu'ici on doit être drastiques sinon on se fait museler. Continuez de médire sur eux, en attendant, ils continuent à faire parler d'eux et être plus importants que chacune d'entre vous. Le Petit Prince ne vous a pas choisies. Il en a choisi une autre. Vous agissez en femmes jalouses.\\
Je répond tout simplement: 'tu es folle'. Si tu viens ici contredire ce que nous disons et bien, ne soit pas surprise que tes commentaires soient effacés. C'est un site pour critiquer Meghan. On a bien le droit, non? Et ton français est donc très mauvais.
Facts can be true, but if you add certain other facts, the 'truth' is no longer true. For example, you can see a man enter a room with a gun but what is left out is that he just picked it up off the ground. So, it is true that the man entered the room, but the gun wasn't his.
The other part is the 'based on law' part. I will use the same example I just experienced. The opposing lawyer used a previous judgement to claim that a judge ruled that a renter wouldn't get to stay in his apartment even though he only got 4 months' notice from the owner instead of the 6 months that the law stipulated. The other lawyer cited jurisprudence to uphold his clients' case. But what the lawyer left out when citing that judgement was that it was the renter's fault that he did not receive the 6 months' notice because he was on vacation for 2 months and did not get the notice. So, the short notice period was the fault of the renter, not the owner's fault. In our case, it was the owner who didn't give 6 months' notice.
On the face of it, you could say that the judgement he was citing was a precedent for not giving the renter 6 months' notice when evicting them, but it wasn't. The judge had to read the jurisprudence and the case to throw his motion out of court, which it was.
Yet the lawyer could say that his case was based on the law. In fact, it wasnét.
Also I have been trying to come up with something intelligent to say about the giant tantrum masking as a copy-right lawsuit but I just am at a loss here. That statement was the biggest piece of horse shit I’ve read in a long time! Basically, here’s a summary:
Dear Press,
Print only nice things about Meghan or I will sue because you killed my mom.
Prince Harry
Oh by the way, I think you violated a copy right law
Prince Harry, Love, She’s setting up her exit from your fam I fear!
there's an epidemic of narcssism today. They're everywhere
Despite many years of French classea I was about to drop your message to @Unknown into google translate when I noticed your last sentence. LOL
I feel like Meghan is trying to isolate Harry - like Narcs do. She's trying to make him wary and paranoid of everyone but her, which is a very dangerous game indeed. I do wish someone from the old guard would step in and make him see what she's doing, but I feel all hope is lost.
Sun is saying Charles and William weren't informed of Harry's letter but the queen was. I think telegraph is saying that the bills will be paid 'privately' by the Sussexes (I think their celebrity friends will give them money in form of donations to their foundation) and the most likely of all, Meghan may be the first royal in history to be put on the witness stand.
Chris Ship also said more details of the case will be released (leaked to US press) on October 14( the day Will and Kate starts their tour).
Maria on 'Royal Dish' seems like a school marm to me. Yes, I get that it's her blog and she gets to make the rules, but she wouldn't have a blog without posters and the way she talks to them, like naughty schoolchildren, is obnoxious. She stopped all comments on the Harkles several months ago and then allowed them again, only to stop them again last week. Apparently some people were bringing politics and racism into the discussion, which is a no-no for her.
And agree that Harry looks miserable and that what we're seeing is a relationship involving a narcissist, played out for the whole world to watch. Whenever he's alone, it looks as though the 'old Harry' - the charming, laid-back prince everybody loved - is back. Yet when he's with her he always seems so tense and nervous. Even around his own baby. Even at his wedding. It's really quite sad.
The Rhiannon you saw being rebuked by Harry is Rhiannon Mills of Sky News. The ironic thing is that she is a total Harkles sycophant. Sky News even ran a special 'Poor Meghan being bullied by the press' half hour programme a few months ago. So even those RRs who suck up to Harry are being treated like criminals now, purely because they are British.
From discussions on different forums, it seems journalists who were brought in to discuss the issue on most of Britain's TV stations are attacking the monarchy. The narrative that is building up is that the Sussexes should give up their privileges and become private citizens.
It comes across to me like that as well.
The way I see it, the press usually treats her with psychophantic reverence (global style icon, most educated and intelligent in the BRF, and so on). It is in the comments section where the criticsm is harsh and veers into demented, let's just make stuff up' attacks, sometimes. The underlying objective truth is that a lot of people in the public really, really do not like her, no matter how they express it! They (Megsy and her sidekick) must be reading the comments and a narcissist would react in an over-the-top, irrational, vengeful way to such criticsm ... how dare they
However, any criticsm or perceived criticsm drives a narc into crazy destructive territory. How dare anyone question anything they do! Why is everyone not fawning at their feet because they are global, the best, the most AMAZING.
Harry is going to spend his entire fortune gong along with her into this crazy narc territory.
Just another thought; I have often read an article and wondered if these s-called journalists just make stuff up so that they can submit a story. What would be useful (and contribute to the raising of journalistic standards) would be to commission a study on the veracity of these articles and an investigation on how and why they were written (BYW, South Africa has an organisation called fact check that try to counter false claims, by politicians, by checking what they say against the facts. Setting up and supporting such an organisation would be useful, but a narc is all about ME and MY feelings and what I deserve, and is not interested in supporting something that might also show that the some of the questions and criticsm are valid)
Very interesting indeed that it's a copyright claim, it makes a lot of sense. My guess, and this is pure speculation, that this is a long term tactical move, a test case and a shot across the bows. Amazingly, as a copyright claim, perhaps it is not about the money as a win in court would dissuade anyone else from publishing correspondence that she has sent in the past.
Think the tactical long game-she has been an adult for many years before meeting Harry so there will be a lot out there and of course some of it will be embarrassing. Imagine if her ex husband/boyfriends fell on hard times, you can bet there is embarrassing stuff all over. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I'm sure we all have the same stuff floating around, it's just that no one cares about us! The question is whether the stuff that is around before she became the sainted Duchess is something that comes under the umbrella of a successful win in this case.
As for the debate regarding the US law system, Canada and UK, I am most certainly a layman but see here for an explanation why MM might think she has a decent chance of success: https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/03/21/394273902/on-libel-and-the-law-u-s-and-u-k-go-separate-ways?t=1570089637696
Of course I understand that the case is for copyright and not libel. But considering that libel tourism meant that people filed suits in the UK rather than elsewhere as they had a better chance of winning, then perhaps the same can be said for our interpretation of copyright law.
I'm not sure. From what I've heard, the payments in such cases are relatively small, certainly for a major news group. Papers are sued all the time and it doesn't do much to stop them. Also, given that apparantly they refused an out-of-court settlement it would appear they believe that they have a pretty good case, and even if they don't, any payments won't exactly bankrupt them.
ONE of Boris Johnson’s closest Cabinet ministers lined up against Meghan and Harry today.
Trade Secretary Liz Truss said the Duchess of Sussex should not be protected by privacy laws.
She told her she had to accept the inevitable “slings and arrows” of being in the public eye.
Ms Truss told the BBC: “I do think people should be able to say what they think about public figures in the press.”
" Meghan, in attempting to be the bastard offspring of Rosa Parks and Bono, is alienating the commoners, the very people who are usually most supportive of our monarchy."
Brilliant stuff:)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7531501/Prince-Harry-ignored-advice-senior-aides-didnt-tell-William-Charles-press-attack.html
Just wanted to say that I strongly suspect BJLK of being a sugar. STRONGLY.
Also, I have followed the BRF since 1981, when Diana came on the scene. I used to think Harry was just a rascal -- although he really upset me with the Nazi fancy dress outfit. But once he fell for ME-gain, he's been insufferable and intolerable. That statement he made was so bratty it made my palm itch to slap him. It should prove to everyone, once and for all, that he is just as horrible as she is. They deserve each other. I feel sorry for poor baby Archie, whoever's kid he is. Luckily, as we saw at Tutu's place, he obviously doesn't spend much time with his "parents,' so hopefully he won't be affected too much.
https://the-charlatan-duchess.tumblr.com/post/188100035864/why-harry-and-meghans-battle-against-the-press-is
https://the-charlatan-duchess.tumblr.com/post/188083233014/the-charlatan-duchess?is_related_post=1
(read the comments for a transcript, bc it’s hard to make out what he says without it)