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Open Post: How will Meghan spoil Beatrice's wedding?

It's now been announced that Princess Beatrice will marry her fiancé Edo Mozzi on Friday, May 29 at the Chapel Royal in St. James' palace.

The small chapel was the site of Queen Victoria's wedding, and the physical resemblance between Bea and her great-great-great-great grandmother is often remarked upon. (Bea even had a cameo in the movie "Young Victoria.")

The Chapel Royal was also the site of Prince George's christening - and Bea's own christening. Bea's wedding ceremony will be followed by a private party at Buckingham Palace.

Duchess Meghan ruined Beatrice sister's Eugenie's wedding with an awkwardly-timed pregnancy announcement.

What can we expect from Meg on May 29?

Comments

Portcitygirl said…
If I were Bea I would not extend a invitation to the pariahs. Not after what MM said about PA. She didn't have to do that. After all he is their dad and they love him. He is also PHs uncle, and not least of all the Queen's son. She basically gave the one finger salute to the entire family. Harry's an idiot. Apparently there are now naked topless pics circulating.
Humor Me said…
Nutty, I honestly believe there will not be an invitation sent to the Sussex duo. I base this on the fact that the Harkles wished to step away from the royal family and their absences from recent family events. Couple this with the pregnancy non-announcement on Eugenie's wedding day, the fact that there is not any relationship between the current Harkles and the happy couple and their extended royal family.

When this happens, I hope Harry's eyes are widened by what he has truly done to himself.
lizzie said…
If I were Bea I'd not invite H&M either. Not after M's antics at Eugenie's wedding---There was no need to wear a maternity style outfit and we didn't see her in another one for at least 4 months -- and not after her comments on PA (who is one of Harry's godfathers BTW.)

I might be snarky and write to Harry and say something like "I didn't want to put you on the spot by inviting you. I was afraid you might feel obligated to come. But I know you and Meghan prefer not to be in the UK, prefer not to see members of the family, and prefer to minimize your jet travel. Take care."

What's he going to say?
Humor Me said…
@lizzie - I'm afraid the clueless ones would INSIST on attending and go public that they are attending upon a personal invite from Beatrice herself in a note to Harry.
Let;s open a book on it:

Do the bleedin' obvious -announce another pregnancy : 50:50
lizzie said…
@Humor Me

You could be right. But if they don't get an invite, they might come anyway figuring it "got lost in the mail." So I think I would write to Harry myself and make it clear they aren't invited. I'd at least feel I had done all I could to avoid the drama and having to see their faces.
Nutty Flavor said…
I don't think they need to be there to spoil Bea's wedding.

A separation announcement would do it.
Princess Mrs. B said…
Does anyone happen to know how many people can fit in the Chapel?
lizzie said…
According to Hello mag the Chapel Royal seats up to 150.
https://www.hellomagazine.com/brides/2020020784414/princess-beatrice-wedding-venue-chapel-royal/
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Slightly off-topic, but:

1. The 🌕Full Moon this weekend is in ♌Leo & I feel like a certain someone (hint: A Leo Sun) might just go, "awooooooooo!" 🐺🐺

2. I was just on Edo's Instagram again & had a look at his food stories. Apparently there's a Din Tai Fung in the UK (London? 🌶). That makes me so happy! 😂😂
Glow W said…
I think they won’t go (whether it is not invited or they choose not to) and the press is going to go hog wild about the snub and the HAMS not there and I think that itself with overshadow the wedding.
none said…
A separation announcement or Harry attends the wedding without MM.
OKay said…
I'm so pleased to hear that Beatrice will get her royal wedding, despite (perhaps because of?) her father's and cousin's behaviour. But yes, we can definitely expect Meg to drop a bomb on May 29. (I'll hate her for it but I'd be absolutely thrilled to get a separation announcement, Nutty!)
JK said…
I'm sure they'll be invited. Despite Meghan's maternity outfit at Eugenie's wedding, you have to remember Harry invited Fergie to his own wedding and for that Beatrice and Eugenie will be forever grateful. Plus they're family after all...and if they weren't invited, I'm sure it would be leaked to the press and cue accusations of animosity, racism etc.

Whether they'll attend is a different matter. Judging by their current popularity in the UK, I'd say no. The excuse will be that they don't want to overshadow Beatrice's day (oh the irony!) or they have prior commitments or it would interfere with Archie's feeding schedule (just kidding!).

I'm sure Meghan will find a suitable way of overshadowing the day anyway, probably a pregnancy announcement or an appearance somewhere in Canada just to underline that they're definitely not in the UK and definitely not going to the wedding.
Animal Lover said…
I don't think they will be there as M has been reported in the press as criticizing Andrew.

Page 6 reports H&M made their first public event in Miami for JP Morgan. No report on how much they were paid.
MeliticusBee said…
Who is footing the bill for the wedding? I think the holder of the checkbook will do the deciding.
MustySyphone said…
@animal lover

Did page 6 mention if they are still funded by British taxpayer (while on a commercial endeavor)?

Are there any pictures of them in Miami?

Are they still considered Royals if they are charging for their appearance? (Although I realize MM did that in SA)
What on earth would those to have to say as keynote speakers at a JP Morgan event. The have nothing of relevance that could be said.
Glow W said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7978959/Prince-Harry-Meghan-make-keynote-speech-exclusive-JPMorgan-event-Miami.html
JK said…
@MustySyphone this is from the Page 6 article (no pictures and interestingly this hasn't been reported in the British press):


Prince Harry and Meghan Markle were the keynote speakers at an exclusive JPMorgan event — in their first public appearance since leaving the royal family.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex turned up at the swanky 1 Hotel in Miami’s South Beach on Thursday night, The Post has been told.

A source revealed: “It was all very hush-hush, with a lot of security. Meghan and Harry headlined the event as the keynote speakers.”

Miami Beach is a far cry from the cold environs of the Sussexes’ $14 million Canadian bolthole, where People magazine this week reported they have been lying low with baby Archie, practicing yoga and walking their dogs.

It’s as yet unknown how much they were paid for the event, though the pair have said they plan to make themselves financially independent, so they will be paid for gigs like this.

As we have reported, they are searching for a new CEO of their Sussex Royal charitable foundation, and hunting for a place to spend the summer in LA, close to Meghan’s mom, Doria Ragland.

Energy entrepreneur Michael Hess, the husband of Meghan’s best friend, Misha Nonoo, has already offered them a place to stay in the gated Malibu Colony, dubbed “Billionaire’s Beach.”

A spokeswoman for the Sussexes declined to comment, saying: “We do not comment on their private schedule.”
Tea Cup said…
Sussex family photo released on their IG with Archie wearing a shirt that says "big brother."
MeliticusBee said…
Not sure if they would command the same fees - but Hillary routinely got $500K for this sort of thing...Bill - even higher at $1mil. Even Chelsea gets $100-250K for appearances.

There is 2 of them - so...$500 to $1mil
Doesn't matter if what they have to say is important or valuable (see Chelsea). This is a write off for something - pay for play of some kind.
hardyboys said…
apparently they would have been paid 500K a piece according to some commentator that stated that is what Obama makes for his speeches. It was likely hush hush bc they probably didn't want the BRF to find out due to using the titles and collecting cash. I don't think she's leaving Harry any time soon. Harry isn't so dumb right now.
SirStinxAlot said…
They won't show. Numerous articles have said Bea and Edo want a small private wedding. Not televised --No cameras, no interest from Meghan.
Himmy said…
I seriously doubt they were paid the same as Obamas or Clintons. Obamas and Clintons can offer political access and influence banking legislation. What can Harkles bring to the table?

They are the Siamese twins or bearded ladies in a circus. People are curious, but will move on pretty quickly. Fergie was in demand after her divorce for a brief period.
Pregnancy announcement odds now shortened to almost a dead cert. No longer taking bets on this.
Forgot to say - May 29th is Oak Apple Day, commemorating the Restoration of the Monarchy in 1660, the day Charles II returned, to much rejoicing.

An auspicious day for the RF.
MeliticusBee said…
And I would argue that the BRF DOES know and they ARE getting paid that much - as a favor. If HAMS get the money from there - they don't have to get it from UK.
It seems like a lot to the regular person...but $500K-$1M to a big bank is like getting coffee.
Tinfoil hat and all.
JHanoi said…
The harkles are still a novelty among the us elite. And technically ‘hrh’/roayl until spring. I expect to see a few more of these and the appearance at the oscars.
I haven’t got a clue of what they can possibly Say in a speech to elite high level citibank people.
I think the harkles are more like zoo animals for the elites citibankers to take selfies with.

Bea wedding. Mm probably won’t attend and will rarely go back the the UK, maybe ph will go cause its a family thing.
If neither goes, i see MM pulling another obviouse PR stunt that day to grab the headlines. It’s her MO
Animal Lover said…
What do these two people have to say that's of consequence?
Kylie Jenner makes more sense as she made a fortune.
It has to be the curiosity factor.
JHanoi said…
And i forgot to question what public airlines they used to get there.
I’m sure some commoners/hoi polloi would have gotten an (unpaid) picture of two if they had traveled delta/ untied or air canada
So it makes me think it was yet another private flight for them and their group.
JK said…
It's now being reported that Gayle King was also at the conference and that H and M flew into Miami from Vancouver on JP Morgan’s private Gulfstream jet. No doubt JP Morgan have offset their carbon footprint by planting a couple of trees.
SDJ said…
Did they leave their prop, I mean child, behind?
Liver Bird said…
Harry may go - supposedly he gets on well with Bea (though who knows anymore....) but I'd be shocked if Meghan did. She'll be 'feeding Archie' or something.

As for the Harkles' appearance, I'm sceptical about them being paid half a million or anything close. That's the type of money the likes of Obama or Clinton can command, and they're former US presidents who, as an above poster said, still have a lot of influence, not minor ex-royal types who are cut off from their only source of prestige. Also, the exact nature of the 'conference' is still unclear. If it was a major event, I'd expect to see photos. I think this is being hyped up and strategically 'leaked'.

And given that they're in the US, I very much suspect we'll see them in some capacity at the Oscars. Not on stage (please no!) but almost certainly at one of the parties at the very least.
Animal Lover said…
Even if you don't agree with their politics, Obama, Bush, and Clinton actually have something to say.
The only thing I've heard from H&M is how hard life is.
gloriosa said…
@ Nutty, @ Nutties

Nothing on JP Morgan website re conference, nothing in The Miami Herald?. JP Morgan Financial Conference is scheduled for February 24-26 at Loew's MB Hotel. Would they really have two financial conferences?? within three weeks of the other?? Page Six are they a reliable news souce or just a gossip, paid PR site. Gayle King was in Miami something to do with REFORM???
none said…
If it's true the Harkels were at this event, I would expect a picture to turn up somewhere like on JP Morgan's Instagram account.
Portcitygirl said…
What the heck are these two dummies lecturing JP morgan about? How to help with climate change and how to empower women? Not white women though. God just knowing these two idiots are on the east coast is nauseating.
Liver Bird said…
Supposedly Harry spoke at the event. That must have been fun. An exceptionally thick guy with no experience in life other than being pandered to because of an accident of birth, speaking at highly succesful businesspeople who have worked long and hard for what they've achieved.

Aren't they technically still 'royal'? How does this fit it? I'll bet that instead of getting paid directly they accepted a 'donation to their foundation' but since under American law 'foundations' only have to donate 5% of their profits, it amounts to the same thing. Plus, it infuriates me that British taxpayers would have had to pay for the major security operation in flying these two chancers around North America just so they could make money. This isn't what PPO's are for. Not close.
Miss_Christina said…
Oh, I think they'll be invited, because unless you're Megwit, you invite family, no matter how irritating. The question is, of course, will they show? A private ceremony with little opportunity for cameras probably won't interest Megs. I'd like to say that after everything she's said and the stunts she's pulled that she'd be too embarrassed to go, but we all know she's immune to shame. I'm guessing she'll drag attention back to herself with some faux humanitarian stunt or interview as I'm fairly certain she won't get herself (or anyone else) pregnant again. She already has her Golden Ticket in Archie.
IEschew said…
Well, if true that they posted a pic of Archie in a big brother tshirt (I refuse to give them even an Instagram page visit), they’ve already stepped in Bea’s spotlight.

My guess: Meghan went to JPMorgan deliberately looking pregnant, so today “had to” announce to get ahead of any rumors post JPMorgan keynote address.

If it were anyone else - literally any other woman - I would take that soft announcement at face value. But from Meg? Nah. Not biting.

She is relentless.

And whoever said Gayle King’s been Markled, I agree. It’s as if a cosmic pistol takes aim, sometimes slowly and carefully, and fires at anyone who befriends Meg. Wild.
JK said…
@gloriosa I don't think there's any doubt the summit took place or that H & M were there. Apparently flight records on the FlightAware website confirm their private jet flight. I've just read that they "took to a stage with US tech businessman Michael Rubin and Philanthropist Clara Wu for a talk on US prison charity, Reform Alliance." and that as well as Gayle King, the rapper Meek Mill and New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft were there.
JHanoi said…
My previous posts, i posted quickly taht it was citibank versus jp morgan.

Please forgive my speed versus heavily researched accuracy. It’s hard to mix up jp morgan and citibank unlike Portland ME and Portland OR.
KCM1212 said…
Re: Keynote speech

I can't imagine them both speaking. My guess is Harry stood quietly Meghan talked. And talked. And talked.

I hope neither one of them shows at Beas wedding. She's had enough overshadowing her day.

Although it would be kind of fun to see a Megsy/Fergie dance-off.
Where's the proof they actually spoke at JPMC? Maybe this "source" is MM herself and this is another publicity lie? Show photos or it didn't happen. And lord knows she loves photos so very unlike her not to publish any.
gloriosa said…
Okay so there were so say there for a talk on prison Charity reform at a JP Morgan conference???? Photo's??? Why no other newspapers covering the story??
Unbeweaveable said…
J.P. Morgan is having an internal leadership summit (ie JP.Morgan directors + some of their nearest and dearest high net worth partners and clients) in Miami right now, not an external industry or financial conference.

Meek Mill was there as part of a session hosted by REFORM, which is his non-profit focusing on prison reform (the owners of the 76ers and Nets were on the panel that Gayle King moderated). No sign of Meghan and Harry at that event, so either they are super super down low about their passion for prison reform, or they were speaking at a different session.

Assuming they are taking a payment for this...the conference organizers would have executed a contract and registered them as 1099 contractors, so tax will be withhheld on their speaking fee. I would be shocked if the gruesome twosome made more than $250k for this event, and they were certainly booked more as a curiosity/rent-a-royal than because they have anything to contribute to the conversation. They also either can’t or won’t show up somewhere as part of a well-networked posse (or collab) so they will have a tough time turning this into other lucrative opportunities.

This is their future: flying from conference room to conference room on a Wednesday night to have dinner with random rich people.


JK said…
@gloriosa various newspapers in the UK are now covering the story and more details are emerging. Buckingham Palace have also confirmed that Harry spoke at the event.
Hikari said…
@Eschew

I just held my nose and looked at the SR IG. No Archie in big brother T-shirt. The only picture I saw is the one with hairy.
KCM1212 said…
What The actual f****?

Prison reform?

Because of the soul crushing prison of the royal family?
Longview said…
HiShe has already done it, leaking about the JP Morgan speech the same day Bea officially announces her wedding date and venue
IEschew said…
Thanks for checking, @Hikari!

So, @Tea Cup: Were you looking at the @SussexRoyal Instagram page, and you saw a photo of Archie in a big brother t-shirt? Or were you perhaps looking at one of the sugar sites where sugars mock up photoshopped fantasy images sorta like their idol? Just trying to understand what happened. Thanks.
Miggy said…
Again!! He will dine out on his mother's memory forever!

"Prince Harry talks about childhood trauma and losing his mother at Miami conference."

https://pagesix.com/2020/02/07/harry-talks-about-childhood-trauma-and-losing-his-mother/
none said…
I think the Archie t-shirt photo was a hypothetical response to Nutty's question at the end of her post - What can we expect from Meg on May 29?
KCM1212 said…
Btw
Yankee Wally blog is reporting Murky Meg got doxxed and pics of her kids published

It's also on her blog.

Those freaking sugars...
Fifi LaRue said…
If it's true that the baby is wearing a big brother t-shirt, then Meghan will make a public appearance cradling a plastic doll on May 29 just before Bea's ceremony is about to begin.
IEschew said…
@Holly, ah, that would explain it! D’oh! Thank you.
MustySyphone said…
I think its only fair that the Palace bill JP Morgan for the full cost of security (that is, reimburse the Palace) for the Harkles from the minute they left their rental until they step foot back in said rental. Taxpayers should not have to pay a dime for Harkle security associated with a money making (for them) event.
Longview said…


It's a big drop from 3 million pounds for the Lion King appearance as Royals, to 200,000 pounds as nobodies.


abbyh said…

I don't think they will get an invite (too much drama in their wake every time).

BUT, I don't know what is happening on her application for citizenship combined with her visa status.

I took a class and one of the people talked about how much paperwork which is send in with the citizenship application to document where you were and when. For example, you have get paperwork back to grade school. Personally, I have serious doubts about how real the desire was to go UK but what I don't know is how not following through would impact her visa status short term for anything: the court case, the wedding.

I would suspect she would have some big announcement carefully timed to come out a the same time as the wedding (probably even if she did show).
KCM1212 said…
I agree MustySyphone!
Liver Bird said…
"Personally, I have serious doubts about how real the desire was to go UK but what I don't know is how not following through would impact her visa status short term for anything: the court case, the wedding."

I don't think she ever intended to take up British citizenship, but that wouldn't impact her ability to enter the country as American citizens can stay in Britain without visas for a period of about 3 months.
Good god we are going to hear over and over again about him loosing his mother. What happens when Gan Gan goes and Prince Philip. He will barely be able to function. Meagain will have to hold him up on stage.
Glow W said…
From the page 6 article
“The source said King — who has forged a close relationship with the royal couple — introduced Meghan, who then said a few words about her love for her husband, before introducing Harry.

The source said, “Harry spoke about mental health and how he has been in therapy for the past few years to try to overcome the trauma of losing his mother.

“He talked about how the events of his childhood affected him and that he has been talking to a mental health professional.

“Harry also touched on Megxit, saying while it has been very difficult on him and Meghan, he does not regret their decision to step down as senior royals because he wants to protect his family. He does not want Meghan and their son Archie to go through what he did as a child.”

Liver Bird said…
"I think its only fair that the Palace bill JP Morgan for the full cost of security (that is, reimburse the Palace) for the Harkles from the minute they left their rental until they step foot back in said rental."

The palace doesn't pay one penny towards the Harkles' security.

The British taxpayer does. Every single penny of it.

That's why it's so very very infuriating.
Glow W said…
“The source said that Harry, 35, and Meghan, 38, were likely paid for their appearance, but the sum is unknown. The couple is believed to have stayed at the private mansion of Meghan’s close friend, tennis legend Serena Williams, in nearby Palm Beach.”

And

“The Sussexes’ presence at the Miami summit was noticed by guests at the hotel, including Ramsey Simon, who was dining at Habitat, the hotel’s eatery.

He tweeted: “Seems there’s a famous someone someone here tonight. A couple who are (presumably) former members, recently detached, of a UK family whose role should be abolished and is a few hundred years past its excuse for even being.”
KCM1212 said…
@liverbird

Did they agree to pay this back when on commercial endeavours?

I thought I read that somewhere


Glow W said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7978959/Prince-Harry-Meghan-make-keynote-speech-exclusive-JPMorgan-event-Miami.html

Has the flight aware route. More details. Summit about investing in urban areas.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7978959/Prince-Harry-Meghan-make-keynote-speech-exclusive-JPMorgan-event-Miami.html
KCM1212 said…
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/01/security-costs-meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-royal-exit

Telegraph reporting they agree to pay back part of security costs a lasTing Blair. Without specifying how much.

No. It should be all.
Liver Bird said…
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Unknown said…
Musty here

Liver bird I know he palace doesn’t pay but I can’t see the met police having to go after reimbursement. Palace should be mopping up the mess they are a part of. Actually chuckles should deduct he amount from the next Harry allowance payment and send it to met. In reality the harkles should pay but that will never happen. Ever.
Liver Bird said…
"Did they agree to pay this back when on commercial endeavours?"

They didn't 'agree', they supposedly offered. Since their security is provided by the Met. police, with the authorisiation of the Home Office, they don't get to 'agree' as their consent is not required. The govt will decide if they are eligible for full-time taxpayer funded security or... not. Hopefully not.

As for the 'commercial endeavours' thing, how do you define it? If you're giving a speech in return for a 'donation to the foundation' (most of which will be pocketed) or attending a 'charity' event for which you receive 'expenses' does that qualify as 'commercial'? I would say 'no' but the Harkles would doubtless claim otherwise. The only solution is for them to pay for all their own security. They wanted 'freedom', didn't they?
JK said…
@tatty so they took a free private jet, stayed at Serena's for free and had free Royal Protection Officers while being paid by JP Morgan. When was the last time these freeloaders actually paid for anything themselves? I hope they reimburse Scotland Yard for the cost of the RPOs as this was a private, commercial trip.
KCM1212 said…
@liver bird

Thanks for the clarification. I so agree!
Unbeweaveable said…
I see the red tops are guessing at what the happy couple said at the conference, and to whom they were speaking. I really hope it wasn’t the same tired BS about losing mummy/publicity trauma.

Anyway, I predict they weren’t actually speaking anywhere at this conference, and just showed up as corporate arm-candy for the ultra HNW. And they certainly didn’t make $1MM in fees. I also doubt they stayed anywhere except the hotel where the conference was being held, because why would they? It’s easier for them to roll down in the elevator.
lizzie said…
In April 2017 Harry, age 32, said he was in a "good place" because he sought counseling at age 28 over losing Diana. He said Will urged him to. Harry said that 2 1/2 year process was very helpful.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/16/prince-harry-sought-counselling-death-mother-led-two-years-total/

Now Harry, age 35, says he's been in counseling for "the past three years?"

If he's going to sell his story, it would be nice if it was a true story. And if he's really had 5 1/2 years of therapy...whoa. He doesn't act like it.
Liver Bird said…
"Liver bird I know he palace doesn’t pay but I can’t see the met police having to go after reimbursement."

Why should 'the palace' get the money though?

Realistically, their security expenses aren't going to get reimbursed. But once the 'transition' period has ended, so should their taxpayer funded security. I really don't see that they're such major targets that they require round-the-clock police protection. Especially if they're going to attend venues which haven't been previously vetted, as would be the case if they were official royal events. I think there would be a major public backlash if it were revealed that the taxpayer is still on the hook for millions of pounds worth of 'security' to these two idiots after they are officially non-royal, especially in the light of police cutbacks in the UK, and you can be sure the British press will remain on it like a dog with a bone.
Jen said…
I'm not sure why he feels the need to continue to tell everyone how much he DOES NOT regret his decision? Might this fall under "doth protest too much?"

Madge said…
I don't think it's any coincidence that the news about the Harkles being at JP Morgan event was put out just a couple of hours after Bea's wedding date was confirmed.

The JP Morgan event had already taken place without a squeak or a leak, so it's just too suss that it's leaked at this time.

On another note, what on earth can the Harkles contribute to the world of banking. Are JP Morgan so hard up that they need to make the Harkles their key note speakers. Really????
KCM1212 said…
Looks like Gayle King is going diverge "double markle curse"

Isn't she already taking a lot of heat for the Kobe Bryant comments?
TLT said…
I believe the photo of Archie in a big brother t-shirt was teacup’s prediction for May 29.
Liver Bird said…
They're going to be at the Oscars, aren't they? I have that sinking feeling...
Unknown said…
Glowworm here: I call false the suggestion they stayed at Serena Williams’ place...no way is she letting MM anywhere near her husband after what happened at the US Open.
Lurking said…
>>"I've just read that they "took to a stage with US tech businessman Michael Rubin and Philanthropist Clara Wu for a talk on US prison charity, Reform Alliance.""

This is so cynical. They pick the one issue everyone pretty much agrees on. I can't think of anyone who thinks people wrongfully convicted should spend another minute in prison. Fewer people likely agree that those convicted of crimes involving marijuana should remain incarcerated in states where it is now legal.

Pandering and pathetic.
Lemonfrog said…
Oh I think they will be invited. To not do so will look petty and spiteful. Remember what HMTQ said in emphasizing family...

I think they will decline to attend, however.
JHanoi said…
PH’s continuing ththis victim thee is most annoying, and his continued profiting off the death of his mother Diana is also getting very distasteful. He’s no better than the media he (uses but) detests.
SwampWoman said…
Re Princess Beatrice and Edo: I know that they do not need my best wishes for their happiness, but I shall extend them anyway. I feel terrible for them for what they have been going through. I hate that the private sufferings of the princesses are used for public entertainment. I really hate that a morally-degenerate American from Hollywood is attempting to throw shade her way and jump in front of their every announcement screaming "LOOK AT ME!"

Re the Harkle visit: I'm not envisioning a scenario where either of the two could possibly have anything germaine to add to any discussion referencing prison reform. I shall dismiss this visit as being entertainment that is akin to a zoo visit where the people stare at the monkeys and say things such as "Oh, they look almost human!"

SDJ said…
Liverr Bird said...
"Did they agree to pay this back when on commercial endeavours?"

They didn't 'agree', they supposedly offered.


The offer was couched in weasel-words though. It was reported at the time that they would "pay towards their own security if they are commercially successful"

I got that quote from the Telegraph, but I am sure I saw it in some official capacity either from Buck. Palace or the Sussexes themselves.

Its the same as movie studios paying an actor a percentage of profits, and then doing the bookkeeping to show that a film was never profitable.

Pardon my french, but pretty douche-y move if you ask me.
Liver Bird said…
"I am sure I saw it in some official capacity either from Buck. Palace or the Sussexes themselves."

I'd be thoroughly shocked if you heard it from any official palace source. The palace does not comment on the security arrangements of various royals. The government decides, not the palace, and certainly not the Suss-exes.
JK said…
@SwampWoman I've read that they thought this gig was the perfect opportunity to make contact with potential wealthy donors to their foundation. I agree they were just entertainment as they have nothing to offer. I'd imagine it was slightly awkward when Meghan professed her love for Harry, who then made a speech about being in therapy and having no regrets. Exactly what relevance would this have to the summit?
Lindy said…
They won’t go because they know they’ll be seated in the back row and their appearance will be awkward for anyone. If MM ain’t front and center she’s outta there. She may indeed try and draw attention away from it.
gloriosa said…
@ Nutties,

In the view that we all need some light relief People magazine have an article stating that the infamous Markus Anderson has been staying with MM and Ph and the child??? in the fancy house on Vancouver Island!!! What a turn up for the books.
Fairy Crocodile said…
Why are we concerned about Harry speaking at some bank conference? If he manages to produce something worth listening to - great for him. Man needs to make money to feed his family (grin).

If this is usual Harry's PC rubbish about how rich should do more for the poor - the fools are those who paid money for this.

Harry never ever arranged anything in his life, never worked his own project from conception to implementation, never had to work to build relations with people around him. He basically had his a** kissed and problems solved for him. He has nothing of value to offer.

And if they show up at Oscars what of it? Hollywood sharks will not bow to Markle. They will smile to her face and laugh behind her back.

In fact tinsel town is the only appropriate place for them. I hope they settle there and I also hope Harry will be used for somebody else's goals. There is an old expression "wedding general" describing a person who is only invited to emphasize the social standing and importance of the party host.

This is what Harry will become.
Tea Cup said…
@IEschew

A family photo with Archie in a clichéd "big brother" shirt was simply a random suggestion to Nutty's headline query about 'how Meghan might spoil Bea's wedding.' I was spit balling a tacky stunt I would not put past the @Sussexroyal diva.
Tea Cup said…
@IEschew

A family photo with Archie in a clichéd "big brother" shirt was simply a random suggestion to Nutty's headline query about 'how Meghan might spoil Bea's wedding.' I was spit balling a tacky stunt I would not put past the @Sussexroyal diva.
Now Oprah is crying because Gayle is receiving death threats about her coverage of Kobe, and now Gayle needs security. "She is not doing well," Oprah said.
Clarissa said…
Very much doubt they would turn up at the Wedding. If by a very long shot She turned up she would be crass enough to arrive with an Archificial on her hip as long as she could hire one from someone!
Unknown said…
Musty here

@liver bird. Im on your side honestly. I am just sooooooo frustrated I don’t express myself well.

Also Hello magazine is reporting they were invited to the Oscars but turned it down. Hello pays for articles so take that with a grain of salt. And does anyone truly believe she’d turndown the Oscars? Hells to the no. Anyway possible she will be there
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Mischief Girl said…
I feel the Harkles should be invited to the wedding because Harry is family, and then the Harkles should have the good grace to say they are unable to attend. Pops can deliver their wedding gift of a Nama juicer to the happy couple.

If the Harlles don't have the good grace to say "thanks so much, but we can't make it" then someone in the family needs to sit them down and explain to them why they aren't going to go to the wedding and over shadow the bride. Then that certain someone will sit there as the Harkles make the phone call/send the text/email/mail the RSVP form that shows they will not attend.

I recommend Prince Andrew. He's got the time.
Not sure if anyone has seen this, but I read it this morning before the articles about their latest jaunt started. I almost posted it earlier but decided not to as it's just confirming what we all already know about how good she is at ghosting people. Then the Miami articles started and I'm now wondering whether it's just a co-incidence or not.

In the light of the recent "speech", it does give us yet another example of her personality. Can't be bothered acknowledging personal letters from female prisoners who see her as an inspiration, but happy to get on a private jet and have her name in the press if there's a stage and (probably) money involved.

Although thinking about it, those prisoners have probably had a lucky escape if they think being inspired by Meghan will lead to succeeding in public life, so maybe it's for the best she never answered lol

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MEGHAN MARKLE has gained herself a legion of fans since joining the Royal Family, and female prisoners told a stunned Duchess of Cornwall that they have been writing to Prince Harry's "inspirational" wife.

Camilla was visiting HMP Downview in south London to meet with chefs, seamstress and photographic shop workers, to hear how outside companies are working with staff to improve the lives of inmates. Once inside the prison library, Camilla chatted to the organisers of the Penned Up literary festival, which is in its second year at Downview.

A prisoner told Camilla: “A lot of the people who have joined Penned Up have been incarcerated too.

“It's good for ladies like us to see that so that when we go back out into the public we can succeed.

"When we write to these people we're trying to get people who will inspire us.

“One was Meghan - so we can aim high.”

Although the women have admitted that they are yet to hear back from Meghan, according to the Evening Standard, who has been busy starting her new “independent’ life over in Canada.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1239098/meghan-markle-royal-news-prince-harry-duchess-of-cornwall-megxit-female-prisoner-letters
The Harkles are being blasted the DM comments. Harry is a one-trick pony. The only thing he has to talk about is himself and how mentally ill he is. Using your dead mother to make money is unconscionable. Grow up Harry. You're not the only one who has lost a mother or a father at an early age. William did, too, and you don't see him carrying on like a petulant child.

I think the Harkles will receive an invitation to the wedding, but will not appear. Harry is too cowardly to try to go back home right now, and we all know that MM will not have the b*lls to make an appearance.

Gayle, "who is not doing well" and now needs private security, according to Oprah, seemed well enough to play mind games with the press who covered the event and to introduce MM. So, Gayle introduces MM who, in turn introduces Harry. Oh, Harry, how the mighty have fallen. You're third place.
lizzie said…
@Unknown/Musty wrote

>>Does anyone truly believe she’d turn down the Oscars?<<

No. And not only did Hello mag report H&M were invited, they reported they had been asked to present the award for Best Picture. Yeah, right.
Louise said…
Lurking with spoon: Thanks you so much for the article about female convicts who look at Markle as a role model.

Indeed, Markle can teach them the legal way to lie and cheat and grift .

The fact that they see her as a role model tells me that the convicts are on to Markle's cons and see legal grifting as aspirational.
Louise said…
Gayle got Markled.

Hahahaha.
Louise said…
Jocelyns Bellinis; Agree with you that Harried is a one trick pony. How is it possible that he can never stop talking about Diana and his mental illness?

He's not much of an inspiration to others suffering from mental illness because he gives the impression that there is never an end to depression, exactly the opposite of the hope that we try to inspire in those suffering from depression.
Nutty Flavor said…
If there are only 100 seats in the chapel, Bea and Edo will have lots of good arguments for not inviting people. Also, Wolfie is the designated child star for this ceremony. Even George will have to take a back seat. Louis will probably not even be included, and Archie's presence is definitely not required.

The DM is now reporting that Harry has had 7 years of therapy. Not sure if they just heard that he started at 28 and did some math, or if he confirmed that it was 7 years.

This seems like a very long treatment.

Forgive my cynicism on this, but I have an acquaintance who has been in therapy for even longer, and I don't think it's a coincidence that she is also an heir with little sense of purpose and a nearly bottomless wallet. At least in her case, the diagnosis seems to stretch and adapt to fit the funds available.

Anyway, I wonder if the same person has been treating Harry this whole time. If so, he or she doesn't seem to be doing a particularly good job. Harry seems lost and unhappy.

In our medicalized society, I wonder where you draw the line between living with mental illness and simply lacking character.
Louise said…
Nutty: Agree 100%. Most depressions burn out within 6-12 months, even without treatment. The reason that we offer medication is to prevent suicides and, more important, to improve the quality of life.

Harried seems to have a disorder that is resistant to treatment; since there is no evidence that he is part of a small group of patients with major depression who are resistant to therapy (there is nothing to suggest major depression which often renders people non functional), it would be more likely that he has a personality disorder, or some elements of a few personalty disorders. PD cannot be treated with medication and if 7 years of therapy has not helped, he is unlikely to improve.

He seems to have no sense of who he is, other than the son of a mother who died young.
MustySyphone said…
Since Gayle must now have private security (re Oprah) perhaps she can give some pointers to the Harkles on where to obtain their own private security--ON THEIR OWN MONEY!
@Louise, You bring up and excellent point that I've also wondered about. How can Harry give anybody with depression or other mental issues hope when he touts that he's been in therapy for seven years, and has not felt any better, but seems to be getting worse? He is actually making this situation worse for people who need therapy, as they will look to him and think that therapy cannot help them, as it hassn't helped Harry.

He does have no identity other than being the child of a woman who died. That, and as the lazy and helpless husband of MM. Who on Earth does he think he is helping? He is doing a great disservice to those who really need help.

Harry: "I've been in therapy for seven years, and look what it's done for me! Nothing!"
Animal Lover said…
CBT and medication are used to treat depression and trauma as well as EMDR. These are all time limited. Even medication can lose it's effectiveness and need to be adjusted.

Intrusive thoughts can come and go so I can see continuing in therapy but 7 years without a break sounds like something is not working or that H has unlimited funds to spend on talk therapy like Woody Allen.
Nutty Flavor said…
I was thinking the other day that both John Lennon and Paul McCartney were the sons of women who died young.

Both referred to their loss in their songwriting, but neither were crippled by it, as Harry seems to be.

Harry’s loss was more public, of course.
Glow W said…
Or Howard stern who has been in therapy something like 20 years.

I offhand wondered if they are at serena’s, if they are all going to the Super Bowl this weekend in Miami. Just a thought
Nutty Flavor said…
I thought Serena had cut Meghan off. Didn’t Serena’s husband call Meg a charlatan?
Ava C said…
A number of separate points:

Just been reading DM reader comments in the articles predicting a ludicrous potential income for H&M, from folks based in the UK who are still defending them. I just don't get it. Aren't they paying UK taxes? Don't they begrudge their taxes paying for every penny of their security with no end currently in sight? Especially since these are the gullible ones who BELIEVE H&M have the potential to earn this much for themselves?

And has the BRF definition of "Spring" now arrived? Because it's as sure as hell that the Harkles have already embarked on their private agenda for private profit, no matter how they dress it up.

I don't get what value is to be gained paying for corporate after dinner speakers who have nothing relevant to offer. There's probably at least ten far more attractive pity-fest providers on every street corner. Who also manage to earn their own living while enduring the universal experiences of bereavement, bullying and plain discontent without the compensation of living in the lap of luxury.

Today would have been my best friend's birthday but she died in the Boxing Day tsunami of 2004. Tragedies happen to millions of people every day. Harry seems to think he is the only one grieving. I'd give anything to be able to give him a good shake. Especially today.
Louise said…
Animal Lover: You beat me to it.. I wanted to say that this endless therapy is reminiscent of Woody Allen. But at least Allen was able to use his neuroses to create some good books and movies.

Jocelyns: Despite what he says, I don't think that Harry is looking to help anyone. He is just wallowing in self pity and seems to need every one else to pity him as well. He was just ripe for the picking by a grifting manipulator and it is in her interest for Harried to never get better. If he developed some self esteem and an identity distinct from his mother, he might very well see Markle for what she is.
Fifi LaRue said…
I'm with the other Unknown. There's no way Serena would invite Meghan into her home after what Meghan did at whatever tennis match it was. Serena's husband was having none of it, and Serena's mother ignored Meghan at the following match. Meghan would get the death stare from Serena.
Nutty Flavor said…
Thanks for the story about your friend, Ava.
Glow W said…
@nutty, no he didn’t call her that.

He did make a series of texts about charlatans in the IT/tech/stem workplaces, but of course people inferred that he was speaking of MM.
MustySyphone said…
@tatty 1:05

Super Bowl was last weekend luv, KC won.
Louise said…
Nutty: Serena's husband did not call Markle a charlatan. If memory serves me, he made a comment about charlatans and some people read into it what they wanted to see.

Lennon and McCartney were able to get beyond the deaths of their mothers, as did Prince William and many others. On the other hand, it is said that Adolph Hitler never got over the death of his mother. Often times it is a question of temperament.. the personality traits with which a person is born... that decides which way the person will go.

Ava C: I am also questioning how they are already selling themselves when the agreement seemed to stipulate that they would continue to represent the Queen until the spring. (Although I always found "spring" to be a nebulous end point). I still don't understand how she carries on unchallenged. Britain stood up to the nazis, but can't seem to defeat Markle.

As to why they would be invited, no one really cared about their speech.. they just wanted to see whether they could turn the Markles into a good investment.
Glow W said…
Haha @musty you are right. Dang that was a brain fart. I went to a super bowl party
@Ava, I am so sorry to hear about your friend. How terrible.
@Nutty, I thought Serena had cut her off as well but who really knows? There is an article now about how they are loving Canada and the people in Saanich are ignoring them out of respect but are just so thrilled to have "royalty" as their neighbours. Someone's "friend" saw Meghan walking around (no mention of the doll or baby). I was rather hoping that the tarot readers were accurate and that Harry was back in the UK with secret divorce proceedings going on.
HappyDays said…
They will initially make some money because they will be a novelty of sorts, but I think Meghan’s narcissistic ego will become so overbearing that her diva behavior and demands will give them the reputation of not being worth the money or hassle to deal with.

She is driving the Sussex Crazy Train, and will likely spend every penny they make and then some to feed her narcissistic need to display wealth and keep her ego afloat that, when the novelty wears off and they are deeply in debt, they will split up.

One of the reasons that reportedly drove Meghan to seek a wealthy famous hubby is that she had spent most of what she had made as an actress and needed access to funding to maintain and elevate her lifestyle. Harry was the perfect target.

Narcissists commonly spend other people's money lavishly, and then move on when the cash is gone. Any money Meghan makes doing ANYTHING can be attributed, no matter how you look at it, to the fact she is married to Harry. She may delude herself into thinking she’s all that and a bag of chips due to HER abilities alone, but if they split, she will once again be nothing. Nobody at JP Morgan or Disney would give her the time of day if she wasn’t married to Harry.
@Louise "Britain stood up to the nazis, but can't seem to defeat Markle." Ain't THAT the truth? I just don't understand the RF at this point, or the Brits who support MM's shenanigans. It's the same here (Vancouver Island). People from the UK ask me how I feel about having the Harkles as neighbours (despite the fact I live over an hour away) and when I tell them, they just don't get it. The locals are primarily older folks with strong ties to the Old Country. Victoria is Little Britain in every respect. They are just so "proud" that these two have selected their neck of the woods to pollute. It all makes me feel ill.
Mimi said…
I can see her showing up to the wedding wearing that caftan she wore to Morocco, clinging on to Hairy with that Cheshire cat smile of her ugly face! Harry will show up looking sick with a sour look on his face!

Either way, their mere attendance will ruin the wedding!
Louise said…
Lighthealer Astrid: I have been following the reports in the G&M and, indeed, there is a lot of discussion about how happy the neighbours are to have her. Didn't your premier say that he was "giddy" about their having chosen BC as their Canadian home?

What puzzles me is why older people with ties to the UK would not see Markle's behaviour as a slap in the face to the Queen.

Something inexplicable happens to people when it comes to "celebrity".. as if all rational thought is put on hold.

Of course, it's worse in a country like Canada..a Seinfeldian country about nothing.... where most Canadians are thrilled to even be acknowledged.

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poppycock said…
Nutty,

I love that you mentioned John and Paul, but their mothers' deaths tagged behind them even when they were Harry's age. John had primal scream therapy and wrote Mother more than 10 years after her death. Paul had written Let It Be at about the same time. Then they both married women who were dominant and built a symbiotic relationship with them. At one point, John and Yoko even went to the loo together and he called her mother. Linda and Paul were also inseparable. John and Paul both insisted that their tone deaf wives join their new bands because they were completely dependant on them. They were like baby koalas around their wives' necks and people made fun of them just like they make fun of Harry today.

John and Paul were also a light year ahead of Harry in terms of intelligence and talent, so I don't blame him for losing himself in his wife's gigantic ego and scheming. Harry has no tools to build himself up from the hole of loss and Meghan exploits that, even if it means complete mental destruction for Harry. However, I don't support Harry's "independent" career of a professional victim. It's beyond tasteless and ugly.
The DM originally showed the wrong photo of the chapel Bea will be married in, I had to delete my comment because I thought there had been a mix up and Nutty had quoted the wrong chapel. 😳It’s gone midnight here, I’m brain dead! 🙄

Regardless, I’m late to the party, I didn’t know there was a new post!

I absolutely do not think Harry or Meghan will be invited to Bea’s wedding, not after what Megs did at Eugenie’s wedding, and how they’ve both thrown the royal family under a bus. 🥴 The dubious duo are a joke now, nobody wants to see them, only the idiots at JP Morgan! 🙄
HappyDays said…
It is to Meghan’s advantage to do every manipulation possible to keep Harry in a state of depression or other emotional instability.It feeds the victim narrative both subscribe to and helps Meghan continue to manipulate Harry and maintain control over her meal ticket.

If Harry gets better, he may wake up and realize he’s in the grip of someone who does not have his best interests in mind.

But until that day comes, this marriage could limp along for years under the Svengali-like manipulations of Meghan.

So sad.

I’ve read in books that detail accounts of people who have had near-death experiences that in heaven, there are places you can go to view what’s happening back on earth. If Diana is able to watch what havoc Meghan has brought to her two sons and to her beloved Harry, she must be shaking her head. The Queen Mother would be furious.
Louise said…
Poppycock: Very insightful comment about Lennon /McCartney and their wives. I didn't see it, but now that you mention it, it is so obvious.
Magatha Mistie said…
So Gayle introduced Meg, & Meg introduced Harry. Harry is slipping even further down Megs greasy pole.

As for Serena’s husbands “Charlatan” tweet, he may or may not have been alluding to Meg, but he didn’t refute comments implying that?
Louise said…
Happydays: Diana and the Queen Mother did not have a near death experience. They are both 100% dead.
Dallas Alice said…
Harry’s emotional development obviously came to an abrupt stop when his mother died. For the love of God (or whomever) get the **** over it.
Dallas Alice said…
He’s a one-trick depression pony and his show is getting tiresome. NEWS FLASH: plenty of people have been through traumatic experiences and don’t make it the entire framework of their narrative. Geez, this is infuriating.
LavenderToast said…
If I was in the audience at the JP Morgan conference, I would have found it extremely boring to listen the Harry talk about, yet again, how he is depressed about his mother's death of some 23 years (or so) ago. Then to hear he has been in therapy for 7 years, and still can't get a grip. I may sound heartless but he has a bigger problem than the death of his mother. He is an emotional cripple. I would be very surprised if he gets any more gigs if he has the same topic to discuss. By now everyone knows the story and it just sounds so depressing to keep repeating it and witnessing a man who can't move on. He is stuck in a pit of negative feelings and it almost seems like it is the quicksand of his life with no escape. and he just keeps clawing and clawing, never making any headway.

As for Bea's wedding, I hope Harry does his cousin a favor and stay away. His presence no doubt would cause a spectacle and the Harkles don't need to bring any negative publicity to Bea's special day. She has suffered enough by having to endure the fallout from her father's situation essentially forcing, IMO a small low key wedding when her sister was able to have such a wonderful high profile celebration. I know some Nutty fans think she should suffer the sins of her father on herself but that is outrageously unfair. It is Bea's first marriage and she deserved better than a twice married Meghan Markle. I'm team Bea!
Magatha Mistie said…
@HappyDays
Meg married Diana’s son, Meg is now in possession of Diana’s grandson. Harry only exists for her as a means to her end.
“H” will soon be no use to her, or anyone. Meg will dine out on Diana until hopefully someone stops her. She is repugnant.
@Louise. Yes, he was just so excited and knew he spoke for "everyone." I set him straight via email and I am sure a few others did too. One storeowner in Saanich put a sign in her window saying her shop was a "media-free zone."

Yes, Canada is pretty Seinfeldian. I am from the UK originally and thinking of returning. I love the scenery here but it is like the land that time forgot. Everyone is just so chill. I am quite sure that MM won't be here much longer. Being in the limelight here is calling up Splash to take pics and then blaming the non-existent paps for ruining your life. There was an article the other day headed "What to do if you see the royals." I was hoping for something like get that middle finger ready, but it was all about "not needing to curtsey as it isn't an official occasion," politely keeping one's distance, and never, ever taking a photograph. Do they think we are 5-year-olds?
Magatha Mistie said…
I meant to say Meg didn’t marry Harry, she married Diana’s son, Harry means nothing to her.
KCM1212 said…
@Dallas Alice
Two questions:
1.That's a very groovy avatar...I can't quite read the writing when I have it enlarged. Is it Helen Keller and her dog? What's his name? He's gorgeous.
2. Are we talking' "Willin'"? Lowell George! Little Feats version? A truly great tune. I'm a Dead Head and really fond of Commander Cody so any version is great by me.

Sorry for the brief OT, everyone
Louise said…
Astrid: The guidelines might make sense if the Queen was vacationing in Saanich, but aren't the Markles supposed to be ex royals? That's the best reason to not curtsy to them. Now that they not representing the Queen, they should be treated like anyone else.

But what do you expect in a country where a Q&M poster said that we should welcome the Markles in the same way that we welcomed the Syrian refugees?
Dallas Alice said…
@KCM1212
It is a pic of Helen Keller with a dog. The caption reads “Helen Keller and her cat Mittens”. Not a source of pride, but can’t figure out how to change it. And OHMYGOD YES!! My name is from Willin’. ❤️
HappyDays said…
Magatha Mistie said...
@HappyDays
Meg married Diana’s son, Meg is now in possession of Diana’s grandson. Harry only exists for her as a means to her end.
“H” will soon be no use to her, or anyone. Meg will dine out on Diana until hopefully someone stops her. She is repugnant.

@Magatha: You are 1000% right. Meghan OWNS HarrY. It is ironic for a woman who, generally shuns the black part of her ethnicity to live as a white woman, but trots out her mother’s heritage to play the race card and victim card at the same time.

Physical ownership of people is evil, repugnant and disgusting. It caused America to break apart in a civil war that cost damage that still ripples through American society.

Emotional and psychological ownership of another person is just as evil, repugnant and disgusting.

Harry was already damaged when Meghan seized his personality and took ownership. The damage she is inflicting on him will find its way to Archie and any other children that come of this marriage made in hell. Narcissists are horrid mothers. For some eye-opening and downright chilling revelations, search “narcissistic mothers” or “children of narcissistic mothers” online.

Many adult children of narcissistic parents, especially narc moms, end up with PTSD as adults and spend years in therapy. Damaged people often produce damaged children.
poppycock said…
Louise,

I'm hoping for a similar reaction from William re Megs some time in the future:

https://youtu.be/WSCAk-ItVxE


On another note:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7979719/Queens-call-Beatrice-Eugenie-Monarch-wants-granddaughters-duties.html

The comments are moderated, and still mostly savage. Poor girls.

KCM1212 said…
@DallasbAlice



Ooh! I know this one! Go to preview before posting and you will see an edit button by the picture.. And um, is that a CAT? It looks like a Boxer! Lolol

And my brother says Allman Brothers or the Byrds best version.
Humor Me said…
@LavenderToast:

"emotional cripple". You. nailed. it. That describes Harry perfectly.
Dallas Alice said…
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Dallas Alice said…
@KCM1212
It is a dog 😬. Tasteless joke.

My favorite version is Linda Ronstadt live in Atlanta in the 70’s.
Magatha Mistie said…
KCM & DallasAlice
I’m howling over Helen Keller & her kitten mittens 😂
Dallas Alice said…
I can’t lie, I thought it was pretty darn funny.

To stay on topic: Meghan is insane..
Magatha Mistie said…
Dallas
OT Maybe the dog is Meg Woke & identifies as a cat?
Wanda said…
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Scandi Sanskrit said…
Okay.... so I don't want to sound *too* mean/catty 😂😂🙊

BUT! This is what Meghan reminds me of this morning:

Years ago, my mother couldn't attend a wedding with my father, so my father took me as his plus-one. At the wedding reception venue we were greeted with metal detectors, armed guards, and airport-level searches at the entry.

(And Indonesian weddings are usually not intimate affairs, which I strongly dislike—although thankfully, in my circles at least, it's become trendy to have small western-style receptions with a teeny-tiny guestlist.) So it literally felt like they invited TSA to the wedding too. 🛫

While queuing, I remember just thinking, "does the bride/groom have a psycho ex or something?" 🤣

☝🏼 THAT is what Meghan reminds me of today (as well as a relatives' girlfriends who've crashed my birthday to insituate themselves into my family, psychos who crashed rehearsals for plays they weren't cast in, to stalkers who crash people's entire lives).

Seriously (I've said this before and I'll say it again), if you invite Meghan, you're just asking for drama. Given what Meghan did at the other cousin's wedding, nobody's going to blame you for disinviting H&M. Meghan's going to be sitting there staging her own little Kabuki show from her seat. YOU KNOW SHE WILL. If she ruins your wedding, what did you expect? (Sorry to be cold. I've already had arguments about who my mom will get to invite to my wedding and I don't even have a boyfriend...)






*Anyway, it turned out the bride/groom didn't have a psycho ex... The security was apparently put there because the President of the Republic of Indonesia (at the time) and a former presidents' daughter (leader of another party, awks) were on the guest list.

(Too bad: I was bored to tears 😭 and was looking forward to watching ex some drama. 🖤🍿)
Ava C said…
I've been thinking of Harry's ex-private secretary Edward Lane Fox (ELF) more and more. Many of us have commented, in retrospect, what an effective job he did shielding us all from the real Harry. Effective, but a great disservice to the BRF, the country and the public (no blame to him - he was only doing his job). The Queen must have thought it wise at the time, but it was misguided as Harry was repeatedly shielded from the consequences of his own actions, shielded from awareness of his own shortcomings and allowed to coast for far too long.

This being the case, it is entirely possible that this is at the core of the hypocrisy and misplaced indignation we are witnessing from Harry now. It's unlikely he's ever gone in for quiet reflection and self-examination. To him, he's the same old Harry he ever was, so why all the criticism? "People loved me before" he thinks. "Why don't they love me now? Must be racism or unconscious bias towards my wife. That's the only thing that's changed." Not realising that he would have been criticised like this long before Meghan, if the country had known what he was really like.

@Nutty and @Lighthealer Astrid - thanks for your kind thoughts about my friend.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@Ava C:

Sorry about your friend who passed in the Boxing Day tsunami. 💜
Mischief Girl said…
I wonder what tiara Beatrice will wear on her wedding day?
Portcitygirl said…
HMTQ wants bea and eugenie to step up according to DM.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
I'll be off for 26+ hours again for Javanese Day of Silence, so apologies in advance for not responding to any replies.

Please understand: Girl's gotta repent for all the snark & cattiness & her cold, cold heart in the ☝🏼above comment.

Have a good weekend, all. 🍹💜

Be awake, not woke. 🙏🏼✨
Mischief Girl said…
@Animal Lover, from a comment way above--

I have also wondered if EMDR would be a good therapy for Harry to try. I had EMDR for 6 sessions more than a decade after a one-time trauma (death of a child versus Harry's death of a parent, but both one-time traumas). EMDR worked miracles for me. I'm like a religious convert about the therapy, I think it's so great. But you're right, it only lasts for so long. I can tell I could use a quick "tune up".

It does seem if Harry has had years of talk therapy and he's still this hurt and angry, that perhaps he'd want to move on to something different.

@Ava, so sorry to hear about your friend. Such a horrific experience. It's just awful when those people who are important to you and who are supposed to go through life with you die far too young.
KCM1212 said…
Dallas
OT Maybe the dog is Meg Woke & identifies as a cat?

@magatha mistie

Lol!
@Louise, My brain is in low gear, what is Q&M? Yup, curtsying to the non-royals because they are not non-royal until "spring." I wish I could find the article. It was insane. I am actually thinking the curtsy business may have come in the comments after someone asked should they do so. Why should anyone feel they should change their behaviour for these two? If you want to stare, then stare, but be prepared to turn to stone looking at nasty Megdusa.
LavenderToast said…
@Scandi Sanskrit

Maybe I should not comment (and I was tempted last weekend when you went silent). but I want to say I admire you for your beliefs and that you live them openly. I think it is a beautiful philosophy/practice to go quite for such honorable reasons. No need to reply but I hope you see my compliment.
HappyDays said…
Louise said...
Happydays: Diana and the Queen Mother did not have a near death experience. They are both 100% dead.

@Louise: I think you may have misunderstood what I was trying to say.

Yes, Diana and the Queen Mother are indeed very dead, but they are still able to watch their loved ones who remain on earth

People who have had the veil lifted that I believe separates us here on earth from the next life momentarily lifted to reveal a glimpse of heaven say that people who have permanently passed from this life to the next life are not totally cut off from earth.

According to reports from some people who have had near-death experiences (NDEs), heaven’s inhabitants, including people such as Diana and the Queen Mother, who are dead in this world, but live in the next world, can go to a place in heaven to watch activities here on earth. The various reports basically describe it as a large window of sorts.

The near-death experience people are just reporting what they have observed during their brief visits to heaven before returning to their earthly bodies to finish God’s intended purpose for their lives.
DesignDoctor said…
@ Louise said:

He seems to have no sense of who he is, other than the son of a mother who died young.

How can Harry have any sense of himself when his accomplishments thus far in his life have been few, he has had very few responsibilities/expectations required of him, and now he is under the thumb and direction of a raging narcissist--who will insure everything is about her?
To have a sense of who you are, IMO, you need to face and overcome life challenges. To have your "mettle" tested.

MM will find something to steal attention from Bea's wedding. If they don't go to the wedding then some "earth shattering" announcement of one of MM's "accomplishments," i.e., success at closing a huge deal or pregnancy.
HappyDays said…
Just for the sake of appearances, the Harkles will be invited to the wedding only as a courtesy, with the tacit understanding they aren’r really wanted there due to Meghan’s behavior to upstage Eugenie's wedding and the nasty, but totally narcissistic manner in which they planned and announced their exit from the RF via the Sussex manifesto on their (actually Meghan’s) IG page and the intentional hurt inflicted on HM, PP, PC, and PW.

The Harkles will “regrettfully” decline due to a “schedule conflict” to worship the almighty dollar at a cash-generating event for themselves or fauxmanitarian “charity” event. They will attempt to draw the spotlight away from Beatrice and Edo’s wedding by staging a ‘pregnancy reveal’ similar to the one at Eugenie’s nuptials on Beatrice’s big day.

Narcissists are notoriously competitive, partly due to their inherent jealousy, which can’t stand to lose control of the spotlight, especially to those they consider to be lesser people.

Meghan’s out of control senses of grandiosity, entitlement, need for continuous attention, and total disregard for the feelings of others causes her to put on the mask of superiority. It compensates for the near total absence of self-esteem that resides in Meghan’s empty, thirsty, vacuous personality.
Louise said…
Astrid: G&M..... Globe and Mail. It has an interesting comment section because only subscribers can comment and the subscribers are overall quite well read and well spoken with posters from the right and left of the political spectrum. (They do run $1.99 specials which attracts a different type of poster, but what are you going to do?) There is a problem with the moderators being left of center (mostly students, I believe), which frequently results in a degree of censorship. It all depends who is on moderator duty.

As I mentioned to Nutty in the last thread, there was a lock down this week on any negative comments about the Markles. I thought that there might have been a letter to the G&M from the Markles or their lawyers.. but possibly this week's moderator is a Markle fan girl or boy.

Poppycock: Thanks for the George Harrison video. I was primarily a Stones fan back in the day (still am), but George was my favorite Beatle.

I don't know what to say about Beatrice an Eugenie.. never had any interest in them, personally. I think that the RF would be better to stick to the core Royals plus Sophie Wessex for official events and have the rest of them round for Christmas and birthdays

Bluebell Woods: Good point about the British needing to be pushed by Churchill to stand up the nazis. Pity that no one can get the Queen and Charles to stand up to Markle. I have lost all respect for them.
Louise said…
Happy Days: After the clarification, I now understand your point of view.

I don't share your view, but I understand what you are saying.
KCM1212 said…
@Louise said

He seems to have no sense of who he is, other than the son of a mother who died young

Wow. That is perhaps the saddest poem ever written.

And so lyrical.

@Ava C and @mischief girl, I am so sorry for both of your losses. Thank you for sharing them with us.

@scandisanskrit.
I love a society that has an annual Day of Silence. And that you observe it. We would all be better off observing a day of thought and forgiveness.
Louise said…
KCM1212: It is remarkable how various religions have similar traditions. Day of silence in Indonesia (Hindu), yom Kippur in judaism and lent in catholicism, to name a couple.

I am a little confused about the dates as other sources list the Day of Silence as being in late March in 2020.
KCM1212 said…
@Louise

Yes! The elders recognized a need to step outside oneself, to go quiet, and test yourself, just a little.

I'm going to do a better job of it this year.

Cheers
YankeeDoodle said…
@KCM1212:

A fellow Deadhead! I love “Uncle John’s Band” as it seems the lyrics were written about HAMS. The song “Lather” , by Jefferson Airplane is Harry almost eerily word by word.

I loved Little Feat. I can never think of Atlanta without the song “Oh, Atlanta” playing in my head.
Rainy Day said…
How do H&M move around? Harry’s idiot friend Nacho said there was 1000 paps outside the house, so let’s figure there’s really maybe 5-10? And the private jet was tracked from Vancouver to Miami. So, how did they get from Vancouver Island to Vancouver airport? At some point they have to leave the house. Why aren’t we seeing any photos?

I can’t imagine anything more boring than being at a glitzy, ritzy corporate event in Miami and having to listen to MM’s word salad and Harry’s pity party. He’d better come up with a new routine, because the old one will quickly become stale and irrelevant.

@Ava C, I would like to say how sorry I am about your friend. That was such a terrible, heartbreaking tragedy.
Portcitygirl said…
LavenderToast,

I'm team Bea, too! Looking forward to the wedding! And hope to God the Harkles stay away. I think PA will see to that.
xxxxx said…
@rainy
glitzy, ritzy corporate event in Miami and having to listen to MM’s word salad and Harry’s pity party.

Reports say that Numpties Megs and Hapless were flown in via JP Morgan private jet, so they could provide wokeness and virtue signalling. After all, wasn't it racism that forced Megs to flee the UK? This costs wealthy and ultra wealthy people nothing, makes them feel so tingly good inside.

But if Bernie Sanders brings his brand of wokeness to the White House the same will be squealing like stuck piglets. Because Bernie wants to raise taxes on them. I think it was Elizabeth Warren who wanted to take 2% of the assets of the ultra wealthy each year. For sure one of the Democrat candidates spoke of this.
KCM1212 said…
@yankeedoodle

You are a person of rare taste! Love Lather....And it fits Harry to a "t"


He looked at me eyes wide and plainly said,
Is it true that I'm no longer young?
And the children call him famous,
what the old men call insane,
And sometimes he's so nameless,
That he hardly knows which game to play...
Which words to say...
Animal Lover said…
I wonder how many engagements they will get if H can only talk about his grief?
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HappyDays said…
I still think there is at least a 75% chance the Harkles will show up at the Oscars. That kids of attention is like high-grade heroin to a junkie. So difficult to resist making a big splash in a pond where a mere 36 months ago, Meghan barely qualified to be the muck that inhabits the bottom.

It would be delicious, but shallow revenge for her.

According to Blind Gossip during this past week Meghan reportedly has a dress on hand. Elton John is one of the performers Sunday night, so since they know him, they can hang with him and get introduced around at the after-parties, including Elton's AIDS benefit party, if he still has it.
HappyDays said…
Oops. Typo. “kids” should be “kind.
LavenderToast said…
Here is a phrase (regarding the Harkles appearance at the Miami conference) a blogger posted on the Royal Gossip Forum site and I thought it was hilarious and spot on....

""They’re taking the Diana Trauma Show on the road now""
HappyDays said…
Mischief Girl said…
I wonder what tiara Beatrice will wear on her wedding day?

@Mischief Girl: It would major shade if HMTQ allows Beatrice to either wear the tiara Meghan stamped her feet about and didn’t get or else the most gaudy, glitzy, sparkly tiara in the collection.
Wanda said…
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Unknown said…
Maybe Meg will feel compelled to celebrate her wedding anniversary like Christmas this year and have an Instagram bonanza for 12 days or at least 10.

Not sure what Bea & Edo will do but I think they may be obligated to invite H&M because of niceties. H&M will want to attend because they can shake off the image they are outcasts from the BRF. It ups their value if they attend. Bea & Edo could just let the invitation “get lost” in the mail. Between Harry’s constantly changing phone number and mailing address, they have a lot of plausible deniability.
Unknown said…
@Ava C That is a heartbreaking story about your friend. My kind regards to you and their loved ones.
Tamhsn said…
Cringe, cringe..so cringe!! So that is the only selling point Harry has? Death of his mother and the trauma? I am in no way diminishing the pain he had to go through..it's unimaginable..but, but..does he have to sell it? And people PAY them to hear that??? What's wrong with the people? He is an adult..a guy at his mid 30s! In no way the blame goes to Meghan alone...they share equal amount of blame in this whole saga.
Unknown said…
Glowworm here: I’m hearing on the grapevine...nothing official, but that the whole JP Morgan thing and Oscar thing are total lies MM has put out to cover that they have NO offers. That they never went anywhere and probably are NOTstaying in a mansion, let alone the Vancouver mansion!

If this is true, Harry needs to be on suicide watch.
Unknown said…
Glowworm again...fullbananabouquet on tumblr has a list of JP Morgan’s planned events...nothing about this event they were supposed to be at....🐛
hunter said…
I used to work in investment banking and have attended such Miami conferences.

George W Bush spoke at the one I attended and I'm pretty sure that was unadvertised. These events are private, they're not advertised.
Portcitygirl said…
Unknown Glowworm,

How will we ever know? JP needs to make a statement. And for the record, I'm sick to death about Harry's grief over Diana. If this and climate change is it then people are going to be bored quickly. Half of their wanna be audience wasn't born when Diana died and
a lot of millennials I know are sick of these hypocrites moaning about the planet.

Good grief. Just bring out the baby and merch a clothing line already. At least we could enjoy some pics of Archie. He is cute.
Unknown said…
@Portcitygirl H&M don’t even have climate change anymore. The Earth Shot prizes makes saving the planet from climate change a classy Team Cambridge affair now. LOL, I wonder if the Sussexes can get invites.
Poodle12 said…
Hi Nutties, avid lurker/reader here. Your comments on Nutty’s provocative and interesting hypotheticals are generally so incisive and funny too. I’ve only commented once, at the beginning of the effort to find out who Markle really was. I mentioned that my brother is a successful screenwriter in the “industry “ in Hollywood and has excellent connections and friends also who worked on Suits. So I asked him to find out what people thought of her in that town (this was after the engagement interview and before the wedding). He told me she is considered a royal bitch and impossible to work with. Nobody had a good word to say about her. So now, as she inevitably returns to LA, she might not be as warmly welcomed back into the bosom of the community as she thinks. Sure, there will be curiosity and some fake fawning at first, but her personality will be the same; although now she’ll be considered a Royal bitch with a capital R and an inflated, but still empty head.

Also, did anyone else notice in some article today ( the DM?) that Marcus Anderson has joined them in BC. There’s a rumor, or theory, that MA is actually Archie’s sire! That Meg did in vitro without asking H because he wanted to wait awhile before having children but Meg needed her meal ticket for life; hence a donation of swimmers from MA. Just reporting what I’ve heard...

As for how she can ruin Bea’s wedding: she will try but I hope Fergie and PA will know how to neutralize her.

Thanks Nutty for this great blog and the lovely community you’ve convened.
Unknown said…
Agree with @hunter. Those conferences are private affairs and a lot of famous people speak at them without getting outed. I wonder how the news got out about the Sussexes.
I don't think Harry's trauma is genuine, at least not these days. He is traumatized but probably not due to the death of his mother 24 years back and after being in therapy for nearly 7 years.

This new mental health tomfoolery is just their new gig, their latest brand identity. They did try it with Meghan for a bit as well - the SA documentary, Boone asked me if I'm ok, the articles about her breaking free of the toxic family lah di dahh... Sadly it didn't stick with the public, and more importantly MM doesn't sell that story very well. So now we see tons of gossip, rumours, reports and speeches about Harry's mental health. This, my fellow Nutties, is what they are selling.

Their new story - Privilege doesn't guarantee peace for the soul. Nothing greater than love and mental health. Or something to that effect.

This is not random at all, they have been at it and building on it for a while now right under our noses. And we have been laughing it off as Harry being a numbnut but this is what they are selling. They sold us Harry the cheeky joker. They sold us Harry the war hero. They sold us Harry the White Knight in Africa. They sold us Harry the most elegible prince charming. They sold us Harry the best husband ever. Now they are selling us Harry the mental health warrior.

Meghan doesn't want to act or work. She wants to be known as the force behind the force. She is his manager, his Kris Jenner, his handler. He becomes the face. She holds the purse strings.
Portcitygirl said…
@Charade,

Don't worry about the Harkles. They will get theirs. And the Cambridges and PC better all three worry about stepping into things such as this. People don't like hypocrites and the royals have the biggest carbon footprint, other than Hollywood, in the world.
How many RPOs accompanied them? How many Miami police had to protect them in a city where crime is rampant and the police have far more important work to do than to guard these two grifters?

'With a crime rate of 42 per one thousand residents, Miami has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 24."

How much were they paid, and where is the 5% of their earnings going to? I will need to see receipts for that donation. The Washington Examiner reports that they made $515,000 for their appearance.

/www.washingtonhttpsexaminer.com/news/financially-independent-meghan-and-prince-harry-bank-515k-speaking-at-jp-morgan-banking-summit

Oh, environmental warriors, how many trees (SMDH) will you or JP Morgan need to plant to off-set your private plane travel to the event and back to Canada?

Just yesterday, the story was that The Harkles were so happy in their solitude, holed up in Canada taking long walks and enjoying their privacy, including new privacy features at the mansion. Now this about attending a conference to whine (yet again) about Harry losing his mother to a group of business people. Did he wear shoes this time?

My guess is that they have been in Miami since the Super Bowl, attending private parties, partying on yachts and trying to make connections while the big financial players were in town.

@Louise, ‘The guidelines might make sense if the Queen was vacationing in Saanich, but aren't the Markles supposed to be ex royals? That's the best reason to not curtsy to them. Now that they not representing the Queen, they should be treated like anyone else.’

They are royals until Spring, and curtsying isn’t compulsory. 🤗


@Bluebell, ‘ Britain stood up to the nazis, but can't seem to defeat Markle."

Yes, but didn't they have to be PUSHED into standing up to the Nazis by Winston Churchill?’’

Neville Chamberlain might have allowed (by his own gullibility) the Nazi’s to invade. Churchill was elected and we were saved. The average British public however just wasn’t aware of what was going on in Europe (or the Continent). They might have known a little, but not much, people only had the radio and newspapers to rely on and the press wasn’t open and so transparent like they are today. So you can’t accuse a nation of not wanting to be pushed into standing up against the Nazi’s if they weren’t aware. 🥴

Meghan is another thing entirely again and it’s been said before, we can’t cherry pick royals, it’s all or nothing. However, I don’t think Meghan will ever return to the UK, the negative reception she’d receive would be deafening. 🤔
FrenchieLiv said…
They will be invited because after all they are family.
It does not mean Bea expect (or wish) them to come…
I don’t think Harry wish to come. He may feel ashamed, humiliated, angry at his family/home country…
Rachel will leak in the US press passive-aggressive statements basically saying she doesn’t want to come because she doesn’t want to have any relation with Andrew.

There is an article in DM which is boring (about Kate).
The funny thing is the title and a specific word used by the journalist: "surrogate" :
"Cuddles, cake and the magical tales behind Kate Middleton's school days: Teachers who became her 'surrogate parents' ....".
I don't know if this word has a hidden meaning...
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