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Open Post: Meghan and the Oscars

The first stars have begun arriving on the red carpet for tonight's Oscar ceremonies.

Will Harry and Meghan appear, either at the ceremony or at Elton John's AIDS Foundation Oscar viewing party?

If so, what will Meghan be wearing?


Comments

Scandi Sanskrit said…
Is anyone else as baffled as me that Joaquin Phoenix sounded fake AF, like he didn't mean a single word he said? His feels felt so contrived.

These are supposedly the best actors in the world.

This one in particular was receiving an award for his acting.

Yet, he can't even feign the outrage/sads. Hammy as hell.

I'm seriously weirded out by it (especially in the context of him receiving an acting accolade).
Scandi Sanskrit said…
It's like the Hollywood elite are saying, "hey people, this is what a great actor looks like."

And people are just like, "oks if you say so."

But I feel gas-lit.
Crumpet said…
Hello Nutties!

Following up to Hikari and BlueBell and others...re MM and her character, Australia, Fiji trip...I thought the pitiful curtsy to the King and Queen of Tonga seemed to indicate that MM felt she was more important than island royalty and that she probably thought they should be bowing to her. She did get some criticism on Twitter...I hope she got an earful from HMTQ upon return. Video of pitiful curtsy here https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1038406/meghan-markle-pictures-royal-tour-prince-harry-tonga-curtsy p
Portcitygirl said…
KCM

I could not get the link to load, but it was on Twitter. Type in Meghan Markle Lord Guthrie and it should bring up the pic so that you can click on it. The comments are a good read as well. I have written off these two and all connected with them as well. The list is long. The mug Harry pulls is vomit inducing.
Fifi LaRue said…
Looks like the Harkles were not invited to any Oscar parties.

Nobody wanted to schmooze Meghan for her great acting skills.

Or Harry for a documentary.

I still say they only got $50,000 as the unexpected add-ons to the JPM event.

That 1 million was Meghan's PR bulls!t
Ian's Girl said…
My God, could Autumn have not waited a bit til the Andrew and Harkle drama died down before doing this? Even if in a worse-case scenario (he is cheating on her or something) she might spare a thought for her damn-near 100 year old grandparents-in-law.

hunter said…
Haven't caught up on comments yet but can SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME how Brad Pitt got an Oscar for playing Random Car Guy to DiCaprios Lead Actor Guy???

Did anyone here see that movie?? DiCaprio actually put in a pretty awesome performance as that drunk guy playing a livid cowboy when he was onset with that little girl? DiCaprio had some really great underrated scenes in that movie.

What TH did Pitt do??? He was just Average Joe and he looked great when he took his shirt off, hubba hubba, but Brad Pitt's finest work surely rests in many other films, I mean please. DID YOU SEE LEO!?!?

I am *not* saying Leo deserves anything for his role, he was good it was fine - but in comparison Pitt HARDLY deserves an Oscar what the hell is that???

I protest.
DM says she's home making baby food for Archie and taking long walks. How unbelievable is that? Of course, it's according to "a friend." It sounds more like a bad blurb on a dating app.
"I love long walks in the rain, cooking delicious gourmet meals and love to laugh." Oh, and pina coladas!

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xxxxx said…
If you asked The Queen she would probably tell you that World War Two was much worse than the combination of the Andrew situation, H&M, the Peter-Autumn split. Peter does not look like the a cheater. Autumn has an honest, uncomplicated and unencumbered face. I am marking this down as inspired by Megsy. That Autumn wanted out for a while, that Meghan's rebellion inspired Autumn to take action. I suppose Autumn's reasons will leak out at DM etc. Sad that two children are involved.
Unknown said…
@hunter I will preface this by saying I didn’t watch either of the movies so I can’t judge and compare the performances.

I will say that these award shows are pure politics and not about genuinely deserving them. The studios campaign and basically buy the awards. Brilliant performances regularly get robbed. I still can’t get over Gwyneth Paltrow winning an Oscar for Shakespeare in Love. Ugh, she only got it because her parents are Hollywood royalty and Harvey Weinstein.

I like Brad but I have never considered him a great actor. Leo is great but I think he has problem dealing with the politics. Tom Cruise in his prime could not manage an Oscar and eventually gave up. I think Brad got the Oscar as part a rehabilitation of his image from the battering he took getting involved with Angelina. They were an ‘it’ couple but insiders hated her and they tolerated her for beloved Brad. The divorce should have destroyed his career but it just showed how truly unpopular she has always been with insiders and the general public.

People love a winning after hard luck and mistakes trope and Hollywood is giving us that in spades with Brad. The Brad-Jen cuteness overload has clearly been for mutual interests. It’s brilliant and totally working. Angelina who?

I never understood why Meg tried to emulate Angelina. She would have been better off aiming to be Jen. Kate’s smart! She’s a Jen, definitely not an Angelina.

P.S. Brad DID NOT write his award speeches. Totally, nope ;)
xxxxx said…
Oscar viewing was down 20% from last year. Brad Pitt got his "Once Upon a Time Hollywood" award as a kind of lifetime achievement award. This goes on all the time. I mean that without looking, Pitt has been in at least 25 movies. He brings in the viewers/ a large fan base so he gets paid well.
Magatha Mistie said…
Kate & Wills coming down under woohoo! They will be visiting fire devastated areas.
Does the Monarch ever `invite' or `request the pleasure of the company of' anyone'? I always understood the verb was `commands'...

From what I've heard, one get a communication from the Lord Chamberlain (?) along the lines of `Her Majesty commands me to (invite you or whatever....).

Protocol aside, I should think HM working on the assumption, with her tongue firmly in her regal cheek, that they will abide by the January agreement to step up until Spring. She is keeping her side of the agreement and expects them to keep theirs - or else!

It's a very useful test of their good faith in advance of Bea's wedding.

Put them on the spot so they have an opportunity to behave disgracefully by not coming - or behaving atrociously - in front of the Commonwealth.

Perhaps then they will be stripped of their last vestiges of privilege, subsidy and hope of attending Bea's wedding. May they be global laughing stocks and HM come up smelling of roses.

Btw, if they do come, I suggest the Lady in Brown is given a seat in a very conspicuous position.
Just remembered -

I heard a good one on Radio 4Extra (`The Unbelievable Truth') in the small hours, about Chinese (mis)translations of western film titles.

`Pretty Woman' was advertised as `I Will Marry a Prostitute and Save Money' - well Haz got that one wrong.

There are several sites dedicated to these errors - well worth a search.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
This specimen is not an example of a human.

Miggy said…
@Hikari,

If Elton is Done with Them, I think they have burnt their last celebrity bridge.

This was published 2 days ago and covered by numerous media outlets.

Furnish went on to describe Prince Harry and Meghan Markle as “like family” to him and his husband, Sir Elton John.
“We have a lot in common with Harry and Meghan,” he said.


https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/prince-harry-meghan-markle-david-furnish-elton-john-royal-family-megxit-a9324721.html
poppycock said…
Charade,

I have a friend in Boston who met Brad Pitt at a dinner five or six years ago. He said that Brad is warm and polite, good natured and funny. I agree that he was awarded as a compensation for a long, steady career, being professional and well liked because OUTIH is a terrible visually beautiful film and Brad didn't have to break a sweat for it.

Meg wants to model herself on Jolie because she recognised that Jolie's humanitarian work brought prestige and figured it was easy to fake it. Also, she's a 90s kid, like me, and to us, Angelina seemed like a freaky goddess. (Bullshit detector is off when you're an impressionable teen 🤷‍♂️) We loved Friends, but Aniston was just a pair of nipples and hair.


JocelynsBellinis,

She has no imagination. Her whole personality seems to be an Instagram profile. Her PR strategy is all "curated" slices of wishful thinking, conscious lies and deliberate misinformation. My guess is that she has hardly left the house, doesn't cook, doesn't care for Archie. It's all frantic plotting, drinking and self-delusion, all day every day.
xxxxx said…
@JocelynsBellinis

I liked the pina colada line you brought! Megsy is stuck in the personal adverts of the 1990s when no internet. You saw them in print in alt. weeklies. Now the personal adverts involve swiping past images of prospectives on your phone.

Harry might as well been swiping, with what he landed in Megsy. (actually she landed him) There must be a yacht girl swiping app by now.
Sandie said…
What would one call a relationship/marriage that brings out the worst in you, pushes all your buttons, picks at all healed and unhealed wounds and, well, brings to the fore all your weak and unpleasant characteristics (we all have them!)?

Seriously, if there isn't a name, I think we should invent one.

That's the Harry and Meghan marriage.

It is far worse than co-dependency, and I find it bizarre that she talks about love.

The only hope for him (and Archie) is if she dumps him. However, what seems to be becoming clear is that Harry is the draw card so she cannot afford to. She is putting a lot of hype out there (probably through her PR) to try and raise her worth, but so far there is no evidence it is working.

No, I do not believe that she is set to become a Disney star.

No, I do not believe that Diane bequeathed her wedding dress to Harry.

No, I do not believe that they got any invitation for the Oscars (but she was hustling or one).

No, I do not believe that the Queen has personally asked them to return for the Commonwealth service.

No, I do not believe that anyone in the UK or the BRF wants the Harkles around for a final round of public engagements (Megsy want to raise her profile with a round of appearances and visits, and, darn, she really wants to keep that National Theatre connection, and she should have got that Oscar presenting gig just for that ...!).

All smoke and mirrors folks ... and the media is playing along nicely.

Miggy said…
LOL @ Germaine Greer ��

The 81-year-old said: “All I can think is she'd better be in love.”

“If she's been faking it all this time, oh boy, what misery. How many orgasms will it take? How many fake groans will get her through this?”


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10927863/meghan-markle-faking-love-prince-harry-germaine-greer/
Miggy said…
Did this get posted yesterday?

An article telling it as it is, for a change!

https://www.ccn.com/meghan-markle-prince-harry-cant-hide-their-secret-ambitions/
Sandie said…
Fake news/False narrative - an example:

This is an excerpt from a Daily Mail article (but the same narrative is being repeated everywhere):

'It has been suggested that Autumn might be in some way inspired by the departure of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, who are now living in Canada with son Archie after quitting their roles as senior royals.'

Here are some facts that have emerged:

1. The Peter-Autumn split happened last year and was after months of discussion.

2. The separation happened before Megsy and Harry took off to Canada for time out.

3. The separation and beginning of divorce proceedings happened well before the Sussexes put out their manifesto.

There is no link here folks and no reason to insert Meghan into the narrative.

Germaine Greer was remarkably accurate when she said (way before the wedding) that Meghan would definitely bolt and would probably take Harry with her. Is her perspective correct when she suggests that Meghan has been faking it and does not actually love Harry and the marriage is going to end in disaster? There's a good transcription of her interview here (ignore the headline as the media outlet always fawns all over Meghan):

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1240545/meghan-markle-news-latest-duchess-sussex-prince-harry-feminism-germaine-greer

Miggy said…
The Germaine Greer article now in DM too.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7990635/Germaine-Greer-launches-brutal-attack-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle.html

Off to read the comments..... :)
xxxxx said…
Peter and Autumn Phillips reveal they agreed to divorce last year and claim they're still friends after 'amicable' split as the 'upset' Queen returns to London
The Queen's eldest grandson Peter Phillips and wife Autumn have separated following 12 years of marriage

Buckingham Palace confirmed the pair told their families of their 'amicable' decision to divorce last year
Friends fear that Autumn, a favourite of the Queen, may move back to her native Canada following split

Some are even suggesting that departure of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle may have influenced Autumn


By STEPHANIE LINNING and DANYAL HUSSAIN FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 16:39 EST, 10 February 2020 | UPDATED: 06:19 EST, 11 February 2020
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7988769/Queens-eldest-grandson-Peter-Phillips-SPLITS-wife-Autumn-12-years-marriage.html

******FWIW I suppose
KCM1212 said…
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PaisleyGirl said…
@ Sandie, you are correct that the timeline of the Peter-Autumn split/Megxit is off. The media narrative that Autumn may have been inspired by Megxit is indeed impossible as Peter and Autumn had already decided to separate before then.

In fact, by that reasoning Meghan may have been inspired by the Autumn-Peter split to move to Canada herself! Meghan doesn't have an original bone in her body, so that seems entirely feasible to me.

I love the Germaine Greer articles coming out today. She was spot on two years ago about a lot of aspects of the Harkles' relationship.
Sandie said…
Will Meghan closely watch the settlement that Autumn gets and then reckon she can demand X100?

I just do not see the Meghan/Harry marriage lasting, not without more and increasingly bad damage.
Unknown said…
@xxxxx Agreed, Brad got his Oscar for his stellar career. Don’t get me wrong, I love Brad and I am happy he got the Oscar. His wins make for great news and television. The other routes these awards go is virtue signaling and weird one-off blips like The Artist (2011).

I am super happy that Parasite won. That movie was phenomenal and hopefully more people go see it. LOL, I hope the Grammys have something similar happen.
Unknown said…
@poppycock I heard the same about Brad. In general, I always hear the big stars are consistently nice and that’s how they get and stay where they are. Rarely are they divas and if they are, they have their careers sidelined fast. Case in point: Edward Norton. Hence why I think the whispers about Meg’s nastiness behind-the-scenes is true. Bad acting isn’t a huge impetus to go up the ladder at least some.

90s kid here as well so yeah, I agree with you about Friends and Jen. It’s weird seeing her being taken seriously as an actress. LOL, I was a snob as a kid and preferred Seinfeld. I understand why Friends is beloved though. It’s a comfort show and it’s DNA is a formula for mass appeal.

I’ve been salty about Angelina since I watched Girl, Interrupted (1999) and learned what happened BTS. I got Angelina’s and Gwyneth’s number fast so I saved myself the regret of becoming a fangirl. I’m a huge Winona Ryder fan and was always upset she never got her due in Hollywood. It’s fun seeing where they are two decades later.
KCM1212 said…
@portcitygirl

Thank you!
Unknown said…
If you go by the news, you would think the Earth orbits around H&M. Meg would have us think that Kate and now Autumn couldn’t function before Meg came on the scene. The Phillips divorce is happening because it was most likely a long time coming like most separations and divorces are. Meg has barely warmed a pillow in the royal household. How could she have influenced anything? She’s so new that it’s possible the Phillips haven’t even uttered a single word to the American.

I am so glad for Nutty and a few other safe places for Meg critics because of the education I am getting on PR. Last night on LSSC, John Oliver and Colbert spoke a little about Megxit. Both of them said they don’t care and they don’t follow the royals. Colbert made the observation that the story seems to have a lot more American interest than British interest. He didn’t understand why. If I had not learned what PR shenanigans look like, I would have made the same conclusion. Thankfully, I know that Woko Ono is pulling ALL the strings. Nobody cares about her.

You can see @1:40 mark: https://youtu.be/oLdaWGe6OvU
Unknown said…
Sorry, I meant Megxit was discussed on LSSC at the 2:40 mark: https://youtu.be/oLdaWGe6OvU
Hikari said…
@Charade

Re. Jen Aniston

I never have thought much of Jennifer's extremely light-weight choices in acting roles. Though lucrative, all her rom-coms are basically interchangeable and just variations on her Friends persona. Along about "The Bounty Hunter", I was like, "Seriously, Jen . . you gave up having children with Brad Pitt for this dreck?"

What I do respect about Jennifer Aniston, though, is that she is consistently hard-working and professional. She's one of the highest-paid actresses in the business but I have never heard a single negative word said about her. There is tabloid speculation as to why she can't seem to hold on to a man, but never any smack about diva antics on set or other unprofessional behavior. I think she is well-respected in the industry.

Jennifer has bucked the trend and done a few dark roles in her otherwise sunny, semi-vapid career. She should do more of these, because they display that she actually can act and be more than just a hairdo and a smile. I highly recommend "Cake", in which she plays a woman dealing with chronic pain and opiate addiction after a car accident caused by a drunk driver. It's a black comedy but also gut-wrenching and made me view her in a whole new light. She resolutely goes completely non-glam in this role and is a revelation.

Hikari said…
@Sandie

>>>Germaine Greer was remarkably accurate when she said (way before the wedding) that Meghan would definitely bolt and would probably take Harry with her. Is her perspective correct when she suggests that Meghan has been faking it and does not actually love Harry and the marriage is going to end in disaster?<<<

Yes, she was even more accurate than she could have dreamt of . . I too thought Meg would bolt but I thought she'd be able to stay the course in the Royal family at least 5 years, considering all she was getting.

I really can't fathom why Duchess Dumbledore has so many sugars who venerate her so much they are wishing death en masse to the Cambridge family. Death to all of William's children so that Duchess Dumblearse can be Queen of Great Britain. There's not playing with a full deck and then there is a mass psychosis on that level I can't even conceive. "In the country of the blind, the one-eyed grifter is Queen" . . something like that.

Leaving aside this cohort who seem to be deaf, dumb and blind when it comes to the massively poor overacting and continual faux pas of their Joan of Arc . . how can any reasonable people still believe the Harry-Meghan love story is real? This pair make Charles and Diana look like a good thing. Meg is faking it and the marriage is already a disaster. I doubt highly and continue to doubt that they have ever lived together since they got 'engaged'. No idea where they are now, but I think the Vancouver Island story is fishy.
Unknown said…
Thanks @Hikari :) I like Jen just didn’t think much of her acting. Although, comedy is an under-appreciated art. Now, I will see if I can catch that movie sometime soon. Agreed, it’s clear Jen has always been nice and professional behind-the-scenes. Hence why she’s a huge star. The biggies don’t bite the hands that feed them. Stars get the glory but it’s the crew and producers who make the magic happen.

I think my comment about Meg being smart if she was more like Jen works on several levels.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
I'm a 90's kid Too!!!!! 💜
Neon slap bracelets and Trapper Keepers and all that~

Still dig the late-90's MTV vampy look 🖤 (just without the thin-line entirely-plucked penciled eyebrows lmao).

Still love sappy boybands/girlbands unapologetically.

Still clean up my plate (literally not a single rice left) because I grew up with parents who reminded me about the 90's famine in Somalia.

Still remember when being environmentally-friendly actually meant putting small purchase like lollies in your backpack (I still remember the Nickelodeon PSA for this), *recycling* (!), and fixing things. Not buying trendy Goop tumblers with crystals for you to choke on, not buying "eco-friendly" products, not buying an electric car, not buying whatever vegan alternatives the Slebs promote---

Mostly grew up on "Seinfeld" because my parents like it, they're too old to relate to any character on "Friends". But one of my best friends from middle school was/is obsessed in "Friends", so I know just enough to know about Phoebe's smelly cat song (one of my cat's name is Durian).

Anyway I will never get over the fact that Seinfeld's NEWMAN (😱!) was in that scene in "Basic Instinct". I just can't handle it... 😭 but then I think of what would it be like if George or Kramer were in the leg-crossing scene. I honestly don't know what scenario would be worst.

@JocelynsBellinis said...

It sounds more like a bad blurb on a dating app. 
"I love long walks in the rain, cooking delicious gourmet meals and love to laugh." Oh, and pina coladas! 

🤣😂

Isn't it "long walks on the beach" tho?
You can get pneumonia taking long walks in the rain.

Mine just says:

"Seeking expat man with a Netflix account (preferably Premium).
poppycock said…
Charade,

I preferred Seinfeld as well! (But I did love Friends as I grew up with them.) It was sobering to recognise the worst, dormant traits of my character in Seinfeld and George and laugh at it with gusto.

Must admit that I loved Jolie since Hackers and it took me a long time to fall out of love with her. I do miss the 90s. The last 20 years since seem like a simulacrum created by a perverse self-hating gnome.

Re big stars - I've personally had friendly relations with an A+++ musician at a time when his life took a sharp turn downwards, and he was still the most gentle and considerate human I've probably ever met. Some stars do shine bright from within. Meg just has a flickering fluorescent tube stuck into her arse.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Also, Winona is pretty~ 💜

I wish she had played the White Swan in "Black Swan" instead of an ageing ballerina.

If Winona had played that role, I wouldn't have felt such Schadenfreude when bad things happen to the main character.

I don't care that Winona's messy IRL as long as she's openly messy.
PaisleyGirl said…
@Scandi Sanskrit, I think Jocelyns Bellinis was referring to "The Pina Colada Song" by Rupert Holmes regarding a personal ad, which went something like this:

"If you like Pina Coladas, and getting caught in the rain
If you're not into yoga, if you have half a brain
If you like making love at midnight, in the dunes of the cape
I'm the love that you've looked for, write to me, and escape"

Although you have to be quite old like me to remember this song, as it is from the early 80's.
I found the reference hilarious, especially in combination with our yoga-loving, half-witted favourite couple...
Hikari said…
@poppycock

>>>She has no imagination. Her whole personality seems to be an Instagram profile. Her PR strategy is all "curated" slices of wishful thinking, conscious lies and deliberate misinformation. My guess is that she has hardly left the house, doesn't cook, doesn't care for Archie. It's all frantic plotting, drinking and self-delusion, all day every day.<<<

I think I need to award a special mention Starbucks for this. You forgot to insert 'plastic surgery' but otherwise, yes, I think you've summed up MM's life to a tee. I always thought it was really odd that in 2+ years since she got engaged to Harry, we never saw a single photo of her out and about in London or hangin' with friends or some of her new family members, just shopping, visiting a museum or other attraction, or walking in the park . .nada. I know there's an agreement in place not to harass the Royals while about their daily non-official business, so they leave Kate alone at Waitrose, etc. But in the early days of her marriage, there were a few photos of her at the grocery. We get occasional snaps of her in Kensington Park with one or more of the kids. There was the nice series of shots last summer of her and the Tindalls plus all the older children at a fun fair in Norfolk.

So where is Meg hiding out in between staged papp walks with the Doll? It's not much of a life, being a celebrity recluse. I guess she must do a lot of online shopping. She reminds me a lot of that Bruce Willis film, appropriately titled "Surrogates" where people live literally hooked up to computers to operate their 'surrogates'--animatronic avatars that go out into the world and do things, representing the best fantasy version of the operators.

Seriously, what does Meg do all day besides what you have mentioned?
PaisleyGirl said…
@ Hikari, perhaps we can compile a list?
Plotting her world domination, combing her yak wigs, whatsapping with Elton and David, trying for baby number two, arguing with Harry, drinking copious amounts of Tignello wine?
Scandi Sanskrit said…
PaisleyGirl said...

@Scandi Sanskrit, I think Jocelyns Bellinis was referring to "The Pina Colada Song" by Rupert Holmes regarding a personal ad, which went something like this:

Thanks! I am such a dum-dum. Really I should've connected the dots:

I spent the last ~2 of 2017 working with that "Piña Colada" song playing in the background, it was like my working soundtrack lol. 😂😂
poppycock said…
Hello 90s Scandi!

I hated every boyband/girl band at the time, but yeah, everything else probably the same. Still think we're the lost generation of postmodern age. Perpetually on the cusp of something, suspended in air, waiting, unfinished. Or suicidal.

Sweaty Newman in that scene LOL.


Hikari,

Thanks, and you're spot on: she was never ever papped in public doing normal things. That made me conclude she's the creature of the night, glued to her phone, yes, shopping probably, or begging for freebies, and reading about herself online. I think her love of secrecy and controlled image stems from lack of any content in her life.
Hikari said…
"Creature of the Night" . . .yes, that fits.

She roams the streets of Vancouver Island looking for the blood of nubile young girls to suck to maintain her illusion of youth. Failing that, she has to resort to small rodents. Grizzlies, wolves and moose give her a wide berth 'cause they can smell Evil coming from a mile off.
Unknown said…
@Scandi Sanskrit You took me back with all the fun stuff about the 90s :) Back then, I learned saving the planet meant: reduce, reuse, and as a last resort, recycle. Meg’s version of the 90s makes me so sad and cringey for my childhood.

I love me my boy bands/girl bands too! The Parasite win at the Oscars gives me hope BTS might win a Grammy next year. I don’t know what it says about me that I still love Winona but I do. My Winona love is never going away ;)

@poppycock My brother and sister loved Friends so I grew up watching every episode at least 5-6 times. Friends is a comfort show that I have on when I need to unplug from life. I definitely understand Friends love :) I just have other shows that I genuinely love.
xxxxx said…
At IMDB I counted 54 movies with Brad Pitt in them. So the guy has Hollywood longevity and has built up his bankability. Maybe 10-13 movies were only minor appearances by Brad Pitt.

Seven Years in Tibet as Heinrich Harrer is the one I like best. The locations and scenery are spectacular. A great story too.

Twelve Monkeys is solid. I have not seen any of his others except for Fight Club and World War Z. Also Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Unknown said…
@poppycock I like that assessment about us being a lost generation of the postmodern age. If I hadn’t studied Economics as deeply as I did dreaming of a PhD, I would have never understood how much of our generation’s problems get glossed over and not taken seriously.
poppycock said…
Hikari,

LMAO that's probably not far off. I believe it was the director of the Reitman commercial who commented somewhere that she is the meanest person he's ever met. Even her poor dogs seemed depressed in her company. I'm just wondering what the hell is Harry doing. Imagine being isolated in the middle of nowhere with someone as negative and domineering as her. Like a premise for a bad horror flick.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@poppycock: OMG he is sweating --> https://youtu.be/rAzbU8hayfw 😂😂😭

charade: I love how "Parasite" doesn't even smell like an Oscar-bait... It was just minding its own business, being an effing funny as effity-eff film. 🍑🖤
abbyh said…

Interesting thought:

Enty had a post about someone doing coke at an after Oscar party and lots of discussion about who. Someone brought up that Elton, as he is in recovery, supports not doing such at his party. Hence, my takeaway was that this could have also been why they might not have been welcome at Elton's party (if all of this is true).

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/02/blind-item-33-oscars.html
poppycock said…
Charade,

We're neglected, or glossed over as you said. That makes us (feel) impotent, but I'm thinking we're solely responsible for at least one major, unfortunate thing - this new restrictive age of wokeness. We've saturated the culture with our suspicion towards the elites, authority, meaning. It's our generation that started to live an alternative life online, that birthed memes, cynical scoff at everything. Wokeness is a counter reaction of the new kids, the new puritanism masked as something fair and noble.


Scandi,

You made me watch 😂 Ick! The epitome of ick!

Looking forward to seeing Parasite as I love dark humour. I'm always surprised when the Academy gets it right.
KCM1212 said…
@paisley girl

- Updating her Tinder profile (billionaire edition)
- Sticking pins into her Kate voodoo doll
- Commenting on unfriendly social media posts
- Photo bombing innocent hikers
- Polishing those "people to sue" and "I hate" lists on the giant whiteboard

@hikari
Ha! Great visual on that one! I can see that moose slinking off, looking over his shoulder.
KCM1212 said…
Hilarious commenter on DM just said that Markle and Mulroney were the twins in The Shining.
Unknown said…
@poppycock Agreed about us creating the poison that is wokeness. Meg is a mosaic of everything bad about our generation.

@Scandi Sanskrit The Parasite win has made me smile so much. It was just so amazing and it got what it deserved. That rarely happens and when it does, it is pure joy to watch.
KCM1212 said…
Bea and Edo ask guests to "learn more" about two charities they support in lieu of gifts.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7991081/Princess-Beatrice-asks-wedding-guests-not-buy-gifts-learn-work-charities.html

Don't even request a donation in their names.
Classy

Knowing what I know now, I'll bet Meghan got a cut from any donation made for their wedding. And another reason diverge famous faces: big donations
NeutralObserver said…
@Hikari, "Creature of the Night" . . .yes, that fits.

"She roams the streets of Vancouver Island looking for the blood of nubile young girls to suck to maintain her illusion of youth. Failing that, she has to resort to small rodents. Grizzlies, wolves and moose give her a wide berth 'cause they can smell Evil coming from a mile off."

It's not just Megs. Apparently it's become a thing for wealthy people (think rich techies) fearful of aging to buy blood donated by healthy young people to ward off getting old. Vampirism without the teeth, just (hopefully sterile) syringes. What a sick society we've become.
Unknown said…
@poppycock @Scandi Sanskrit This was fun talking to some other 90s kids :) I sometimes wonder why I’m not woke. I should be but I don’t think I am. I hope not. I will say that I was always a weirdo and loved grunge and my boy bands at the same time. I was born an oxymoron :)
Jen said…
Just want to add my two cents on Aniston...I love her and found that she stepped out of her norm for Horrible Bosses. She was amazing in those movies and super funny! So very NOT Rachel. My 11 yr old niece is binge watching all the Friends episodes and loves the show.

Also...see Office Christmas Party. Again, great acting and funny!

As for the duo, I am surprised we havent seen anything new from them. Since we havent, press needs to stop writing about them. Without her name in the press, she might do something really crazy to get back in....
Platypus said…
Hi everyone! There’s a new Harry Markle up!
Platypus said…
Hard to believe, Nicki Minaj is saying Harry is “a real man” for basically throwing his family under the bus in favor of his wife!!!



https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/10939986/prince-harry-meghan-markle-real-man-nicki-minaj/
poppycock said…
Charade,

I'm sending you a virtual hug, fellow 90s weirdo. You seem lovely and sharp, as do most people here. Lucky we're not flooded with Meg's stans.


Jen,

Aniston is ok, I'm sorry if I sounded dismissive or rude, perhaps I should've explained. When we were kids she was just Rachel to us, we didn't know anything about her as an actress or a person, and Rachel was like an older sister. Of course, some of my friends were crazy about her, but then I had different tastes and was interested in dangerous girls *facepalm* Like Brad, through bitter experience, I realised that dangerous is just not worth it.
Unknown said…
@poppycock @Scandi Sanskrit. Virtual hug back to my fellow 90s kid :) I’m going to be petty and pretend like Meg is too old to be a Millennial and she’s like Kanye who also calls himself one when he’s really Gen X. I don’t want to hate my childhood because of her, LOL.

@Jen I’m sorry too if I sounded a little salty and dismissive of Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt. Jen is always Rachel to me. Until Meg came on the scene, I was going to name my daughter Rachel. Not a chance happening anymore because I don’t want my kid Markled.

The few movies I did see of Jen were huge let downs. She was great on Friends and I am a huge believer that comedy does not get it’s due in the arts. The other 90s kids I know that grew up with Jen as Rachel never went on to watch her movies. Not sure but I think her fans tend to be older than Millennials. She got younger fans because of Nick at Nite and then Netflix.

I said Brad wasn’t a good actor in my eyes but he is without a doubt a solid and very good performer. I just grew up with parents that had TCM on all the time so my benchmarks for great TV were Hitchcock Presents, Twilight Zone, and I Love Lucy. For actors it was Bogie, Cary Grant, Katherine Hepburn, Bette Davis, etc... You get the idea.

Both Jen and Brad are strong performers, professional, and very nice people. They were why the 90s was fun. Like I say, don’t get me wrong, I like the pair of them :)
Pantsface said…
And I always thought the Pina Colada song was Barry Manilow - I'm not a 90's kid :) as you can probably tell from that comment lol. So PC, PW, Kate and Camilla did a joint appearance today, and we get a throw back from someone at the shelter Rach visited a few weeks ago - see Daily Mail
Pantsface
MeliticusBee said…
@Unknown - yes it is a "Barry Manilow" song - but it was written and recorded by British born by Rupert Holmes as a single.
Those of us who are not millennials will likely remember it from Barry Manilow who covered it and was more popular on pop radio.
PaisleyGirl said…
@Unknown, re the joint appearance of Charles, Camilla, William and Catherine today, did anyone else notice that Charles looked quite unhealthy? Very, very red in the face (even more than usual) and he looked very old all of a sudden.
And I must say I adore the military style jacket Kate was wearing. She looked lovely and very professional.
luxem said…
Now that we are getting what sounds like a more accurate picture of the Phillips split - happened months ago, was amicable, family all knew - I have to wonder if Meg dropped the initial story to draw attention away from the JPMorgan fiasco/not being at Oscars. The quotes attributed to Autumn's friends that she was influenced by Megxit and wants to return to Canada sound so fake - when have AUtumn's friends ever talked to the press? The initial story sure made it sound like Meghan is an empowering trailblazer for the royal wives! Whatever....
Jen said…
I'm getting kind of tired of hearing what people's friends have to say about them. Not that I really believe that the friends are actually saying it, But it's getting tiresome. A lot of these stories are likely false because someone's "friend" told the DM or whomever.
Jen said…
@poppycock @charade.... No offense was taken about Jennifer Aniston! I personally enjoy her movies, but I understand it's not for everyone. If you get the opportunity and you haven't seen it yet, please watch Horrible Bosses. It was hilarious.

@Paisleygirl... Charles has been looking unhealthy for awhile now. I cannot imagine that the stress of Megxit has been easy and it shows.
Sandie said…
And now for some light entertainment ... The Dumbarton Football Club sent Prince Harry a scarf ...

https://www.dumbartonfootballclub.com/news/?mode=view&id=4299

Here are all the items they could have sent him:

https://www.dumbartonfootballclub.com/store/?mode=category&CatID=Merchandise

And this is the scarf:

https://www.dumbartonfootballclub.com/store/?mode=category&ItemID=201

Bravura said…
I have no idea if any of this is connected but twitter is abuzz with news that JP Morgan is in talks to merge with ConsenSys. That kind of piqued my interest after everything we hear going on with Harry and Markle. Looks like ConsenSys has a guy named Joseph Lubin on the Board of Directors and he's from Toronto. I can't see any overt connection but the bigger question begs: is there anything going on here?

It just struck me as odd. They give a speech at a JP Morgan convention and days later they announce they're merging with a company run in part by a guy from Toronto. Again, no idea if there's anything there but...*shrugs*
Meghan called a [REDACTED} on live TV:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10932772/meghan-markle-live-tv-furious-caller-jeremy-vine/

Scandi Sanskrit said…
So I just woke up this: https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1227295833240064001?s=19 💜😂😂☕

It's not even 7 and my day is made.
Glow W said…
@bravuara they are only in talks to merge Quorum with consenSys
Glow W said…
It’s 25 employees affected
Miggy said…
For those who may have missed this 60 Minutes Australia programme.

What forced Meghan and Harry to do a royal runner?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pes5F6EJlP0
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@poppycock: sorry I made you watch that. 😂😂

@charade: 90s hugs back! I'm an early Millenial but I prefer to identify as Gen X because I'm ashamed of how icky Gen Y are (barf). I think it's hilarious that Meghan is *technically* a Millenial born on the cut-off year. I can't even explain why but it tickles my funny bone for some reason.

KCM1212 said...

@paisley girl

- Updating her Tinder profile (billionaire edition)


I can totally see pre-Harry Meghan trying to get a Raya account: https://www.businessinsider.sg/what-is-raya-elite-celebrity-dating-app-rich-famous-2019-12/?r=US&IR=T

Anyway has anyone noticed you can request for verification from Instagram via the app now? I'm tempted to ask just for sh*ts and giggles to see what happens. No wonder so many blue ticks respond to Laurence Fox but NOBODY EVER KNOWS WHO THEY ARE (tho that's on Twitter, not Instagram). 🤣
Magatha Mistie said…
@Scandi Sanskrit
You’re a fan of Morse, me too. Also loved LozzaFox in “Lewis”
@Bravura, It looks to me that Joseph Lubin is another one of the wealthy woke crowd, and he is into crypto currency. It seems that things are not going well for his crypto company financially, as he was trying to raise $200 million to keep it afloat, according to CNN.

https://www.ccn.com/ethereum-giant-consensys-seeks-200-million-investment/

This is a fun article to read as it shows that he is part of the woke crowd.
forbes.com/sites/jeffkauflin/2018/12/05/cryptopia-in-crisis-billionaire-joe-lubins-ethereum-experiment-is-a-mess-how-long-will-he-prop-it-up/#1d0a230c2f0a

There are connections upon connections with Lubin, crypto currency and other endeavors on a gobal level, Vitalik Buterin (Etherium, Bitcoin Magazine) and the movers and shakers in the crypto biz, which can be a way of laundering money.

https://blog.chainalysis.com/reports/money-laundering-cryptocurrency-2019

Lubins was born in Toronto, but his business is based in Brooklyn. The beginnings of his business and his association with Buterin began in Toronto.

Here is a list of Bitcoin and Blockchain (Lubin) conferences showing just how far the global reach is into various industries, including banking, energy and pharmaceuticals.
Hikari said…
Watched a fawning piece by one of the morning shows... Which ever one Michael Strahan is with now...About the m Harkles’ jolly in Miami. They provided a stock photo of the hotel in South Beach, and a mess of archive photos of Harry and Megan from last year and the year before that, but we actually have zero proof by a contemporaneous picture, That they were ever there. We know the story about having dinner with J Lo and ARod is a Complete fabrication, so why not this? Vancouver to Miami is a long way to ferry a couple by private jet who have absolutely nothing germane to offer a collective of high powered bankers By the way of speechmaking or entertainment. They would’ve gotten better value for their money if they had hired Charity and Carrot Top to do a floor show.

Scandi Sanskrit said…
 Magatha Mistie: I love all English murder mysteries! But yes Laurence Fox is a hottie. 🔥

I saw an interview by Laurence Fox on YouTube and he said by the end of doing "Lewis", he could figure out who'd dunnit because he'd figured out the writers' formula/pattern by then.

I really really want the "Lewis" box set (but I hope it has the pilot episode Too, the "Hamlet" one).

The only thing I don't understand about Lozza-san is why he said his non-Woke dating cut-off age is 35 (Harry's age) rather than 37 (Meghan's age and also 1981 is the cut off year for Millenials). Harry was a fancy-dress-Nazi before he met Meghan (NOT IMPLYING THAT MEGHAN MADE HIM A BETTER MAN, JUST TO BE CLEAR LOL). She's the more Woke one between the two. And he got into trouble for commenting on Meghan on QT.

 Platypus said...

Hard to believe, Nicki Minaj is saying Harry is “a real man” for basically throwing his family under the bus in favor of his wife!!!

I love Nicki Minaj's music, it's really different (Prison Bae/Hot Felon is a fan too apparently) but I wouldn't be running to her for dating advice. 😂😂

Saying a guy's a catch goes against every common sense dating lesson your mom ever taught you, you know things like:

- if a man leaves his wife/girlfriend for you, he'll leave you in the same way someday (my mother instilled this in me)

- if a man treats his mother badly, he'll treat you badly too

- if a man has children from a previous marriage, it's a red flag if he's not in good terms/civil with the mother of his children (especially if he badmouths the mother in front of or to the children)

Nicki, no. ☝🏼 Common sense, Nicki. FFS.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Scandi Sanskrit
Have you seen clip of Laurence in Goggle Box UK with his cousin Emilia?
He said it will all go wrong for H & M then mocks Meg in a faux Meg accent saying “ listen to me Harry”
It’s a hoot!
KCM1212 said…
@scandie Sanskrit
Said


I can totally see pre-Harry Meghan trying to get a Raya account: https://www.businessinsider.sg/what-is-raya-elite-celebrity-dating-app-rich-famous-2019-12/?r=US&IR=T

Well Scandie, that shows you how much I get out... I hadn't even heard of this one!☺
And I think you are right...even now she is feverishly networking to be accepted.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@Magatha Mistie: OMG i found it https://www.express.co.uk/videos/6058559436001/Gogglebox-Laurence-Fox-says-Meghan-and-Harry-will-go-wrong 😂😂🤣

"Do exactly what I say Harry, do exactly whay I saaaaaay....." 😆

Thanks for that LMAO 🍹💜

 @KCM1212: okay "networking" is a kind way to put it. Lol.

I still think she went werewolf on the Full Moon over the fact that she didn't get to go to the Oscars & be around insufferable [bleeps] most of us can't even stand to merely *watch* from a distance via a TV. 🌕
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Anyway, Laurence Fox is supposed to be on a Netflix show where he plays a Buddhist drug dealer. And I really really want to see it. 💜

The Indonesian government blocked Netflix and Netflix blocks VPNs... 😭

Never wanted Netflix so bad in my life. I've been fine with other alternatives (iFlix, VIU, etc.) But I think this one is only in Netflix. I has sad. 😔 Sniffles. 😢
Scandi Sanskrit said…
IDK if I'm just PMS-ing but I'm REALLY MAD RIGHT NOW

So remember when There was that news piece making rounds about their royal highnesses accusing Posh Spice of leaking stories about Meghan: https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/paranoid-prince-harry-made-a-ridiculous-accusation-against-victoria-beckham.html/

I know there are some theories that Meghan made this up hide that she herself had some sort of deal with the English press before she eveb married Harry.

Well Glamour UK currently has Posh Spice (love her 🖤) on their cover.

So what do Glamour do? They publish this pro-MM article while Victoria's on their cover: https://twitter.com/GlamourMagUK/status/1227245170313138176?s=19

The cynic in me thinks this weaponising of Laurence Fox is a preemptive strike against, "whheeeeee you're pro-Posh and therefore anti-MM and therefore wayciiiiisst!!!!!!"

It doesn't even matter that it's not true, the news is out there and Glamour just wants to pragmatically save their own @$$.

Like let Posh be her own entity. She was her own entity before she got a surname change anyway.

Why are my favourite people getting dragged into it?

Their woke posturing is so fake.

Add to the fact that I've been on YouTube and there are these YouTubers from diverse countries like the US where diverse companies like FENTY that carry like 200 foundation shades are readily available...

Yet they go *out of their way* to buy Korean/Japanese beauty products (these are countries with a homogenous population) just to complain about how "racist" these East Asian companies are for not carrying their colour... FOR CLOUT. WHILE saying things Like, "is anybody even this white? THIS IS LIKE PAPER WHITE!" (Referring to the lightest shade of a Korean beauty brand.)

Their basically imposing western standards on Asian countries, and isn't that a form of bigotry/racism Too? Where Glamour UK when this form of racism is happening all over YouTube?

And then the comments section of that YouTube video is full of Koreans saying, "I'm so embarrassed to be Korean" and white people saying, "i struggle to find foundation for my pale complexion." But that's okay and you don't see Glamour UK doing articles/reports on that.

That's the kind of culture Meghan makes big bucks in: A world where you have FENTY BEAUTY, but instead of relishing the diversity that FENTY brilliantly afforded you, you go out of your way to find something to complain about. Something that was just minding its own business being its own culture.

Just like England was minding its own business being British stiff upper-lip until Meghan started complaining about everything.
brown-eyed said…

Another PR piece, obviously by MM, that is so disrespectful to PH. I can’t imagine writing stuff like that about anyone I loved, especially my spouse. I don’t know how he can stand being with her.
Need wine.
https://canoe.com/life/royals/meghan-markle-orders-prince-harry-to-get-in-shape-for-l-a-move
Oh BrownEyed... I don't know whether to side-eyed Meghan or lol at her and burst out in laughter tears. Are we seeing there passive agressive relationship playing h out in the tabloids now? Is this Meghan's way of communicating with Harry now, since he likelyspends more time reading stuff about himself than actually doing life stuff?!

PS: quite likely that this is just some media generated nonsense. Surely this could not be true, it's so harsh! But of course, let's just wait to see if Meghan and Harry sue over this or not to know if it's true. Teeheehee... 😝
Miggy said…
Harry now in talks with Goldman Sachs.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7994491/Prince-Harry-talks-banking-giant-Goldman-Sachs.html
Harry is doing his (Meghans) version of bank hunting. Goldman-Sachs... JPM... Would be quite anti-climactic if 2 months down the line we just see him in a Lloyd's commercial! 🙄
Portcitygirl said…
Love all the comments this am! A couple of things:

Smug face Jussie Smollet has been indicted. The judge has requested all texts, calls, and emails. Remember MO was indirectly( directly) involved in this little saga. Megsy's new bff.

Per Nicki Manaj, she is just getting on the MegHarry bandwagon of "the Brita are bad people".
Racists, colonizing, stiff upper lip, etc. Many under 30's have bought this total bs. This is only meant for the white Brits of course.

Also, I think it was Harry Markle blog or Crownsofbritain that had a cartoon of Meghan leading hapless Harry around on a dogleash. Not the first artist to portray this.

What must Harry think of these cartoons? Surely he sees them. He never came across as a beta to me, but wow is he one now.
Miggy said…
@Alice, Surrey James,

Would be quite anti-climactic if 2 months down the line we just see him in a Lloyd's commercial!

As long as the commercial includes him falling off one of those beautiful black horses, so that we can all have a bloody good laugh!
lizzie said…
@brown-eyed,
Thanks for the article about M wanting H to get in shape.

I suspect it's made up ...BUT it is true as the article says "“He’s gained a few pounds lately, especially around the face...." The gained *facial* weight is the only reason he didn't look as much like a raging drug addict as he has at other times. But otherwise his suit hung on him in January at Canada House.
Yeah, "H&M in talks with Goldman Sachs per DM":

The prince talked about how he had been ‘in therapy’ for the last three years over the death of his mother, Diana, Princess of Wales.

The private JPMorgan Wealth Conference ‘Alternative Investment Summit’ was this year focused on building ‘black wealth’, investing in urban America and education.


What does his mental health have to do with building black wealth, investing in urban America and education? This whoa is me Diana spiel of theirs only has so much gas.
And the best response in the DM comments section:

I always find my mental health improves when my bank balance overflows. lol
Sandie said…
An interesting article that explains narcissistic abuse simply:

https://www.insider.com/strengths-narcissists-target-in-their-victims-2018-6

Sure, Harry had problems before he met Meghan, but he did have strong and secure family bonds, lifelong friends, a structure and clear path for his life, lots of guidance and support, plenty of love and admiration, and more money than he needed. He even had a friendly relationship with the press.
Fairy Crocodile said…
Sorry to say it folk but if you have any money make sure it is safe. We will likely see another global banking crisis soon. Markle curse is entering the global banking orbit. Watch the news and be warned.
xxxxx said…
I am beginning to think that the Queen and her minions reached (perhaps paid off) a few of those high powered Hollywood publicity agents and got them to come out with their mad predictions of Megsy+H cashing out to the tune of millions. "Worth one billion dollars" was one prediction. This way they flop much harder and Harry comes home. Splitting from his Duplicitous Dumbarton partner in Delusions. While Megsy remains in Hollywood seeking out sub-Suits acting roles. Suitcase girl Megsy might even resort to doing a Tonya Harding on Vanna White to get her gig.
xxxxx said…
@Fairy Crocodile

Global banking is way over extended. One name for it is "Extend and pretend". It is all built on the psychology of acceptance and confidence. When this confidence (aka con game) suffers severe blows, then it will collapse, stocks will plunge with runs on banks and mutual funds. With lets say your mutual fund telling you that it is now worth only 60% of what it was. That you can pull out *today* for 60 cents on the dollar.

I don't have to time to go on, but what will be safest will be physical greenbacks/ paper US dollars in your possession. The proverbial, stuffed in your mattress. Same for paper Euro currency and paper British pounds doing OK. Gold and silver go down in a deflation, though gold is second best to paper currencies. Paper currencies get killed in a severe inflation/hyper inflation, but I don't see this coming.

The global banking con game has been very effective for years, so no one can predict when the collapse will come. The student loan program in America is a fine example of how millions are living on loans that will never, ever be paid back. Automobile loans are similar. The typical automobile company here makes more profit from its 5-8 year loans then from selling the automobile.
Fairy Crocodile said…
Xxxx
Thank you, that is useful!
Sandie said…
Why did they jump when they did, and are they acting on a long-thought-out and carefully executed plan?

Here is an interesting perspective from LSA that shows another narrative: they reacted and are flailing around ...

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-2866#post-54748100

I like that perspective ... it makes the soap opera so much more interesting and guarantees some major drama in the near future!
OKay said…
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OKay said…
RE: Germain Greer excoriating Meg (and somewhat Harry). The gloves are well and truly off!
Sandie said…
And Meghan's PR keeps pushing the narrative of Meghan having so much influence ...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7995607/How-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-paved-way-unhappy-royals-Autumn-Peter-Phillips.html

Nope, Peter and Autumn decided on the separation and divorce (and informed their families) long before Harry and Meghan took off to Canada for 'time off'.
I'd like to jump in on the I Love Laurence Fox pile! Have dug him since his Lewis days. He was/is a good actor. Now, I give him a lot of credit for calling a spade a spade. I'm really impressed.
I also enjoyed Foyle's War, as per the other day's discussion. I had forgotten to include that in my comment then.
H&M couldn't make a worse step than getting into bed with GS. Damn. GS has such a bad, dirty reputation. Big mistake for their "brand". I don't know what H&M's setup is, but I swear she is out to literally destroy him and everything about him. Whatever "good" reputation he had had will be vaporised and it won't be possible to ever get any of it back. If he has gone all-in, then he will end up paying a severe, heavy price in the end. This GS thing will also bleed onto the RF. The optics are awful.
CookieShark said…
Express picked up the story of MM plaigerizing Eleanor Roosevelt!
QueenWhitby said…
Last TP post:

“Darling, others of the family you never had distanced themselves from the bank because they saw what the bank stands for. But you on the side of the evil will be exposed with your helpers and their allies.”

I did a little dig on Wiki and found it interesting that Lord Frederick Windsor is employed by JP Morgan as banker and VP, and Lord Downpatrick (Eddie Windsor) left his job as financial analyst at JP Morgan in 2016. According to DripDrop this was because what he saw was against his beliefs, values and principles.

Then there are the easily googled Epstein/JPM links.

I take TP and DD with a grain of salt but this has twitched my tinfoil hat greatly. It’s all very shady.

And...I miss Elle.
Humor Me said…
Am I seeing a kraken release in the Daily Mail? The DM's negative articles are increasing.
LavenderToast said…
Now Justin Welby, COE is complaining about institutional racism in the church for the last 70 years and issuing an apology. By inference, this is going to look bad for her Majesty since she is the head of the COE. Sadly, I bet Meghan couldn't be happier with this news!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1241287/church-of-england-general-synod-racist-archbishop-of-canterbury-justin-welby
MustySyphone said…
@Queen Whitby

Where is/what happened to Elle? I miss her too!
Portcitygirl said…
@LavenderToast,

I can't imagine Welby mentioning this without HM's approval. I'm like PP. What game are they playing at. One thing is certain. The racism narrative is never going away. It is going to get a lot worse before it gets better I'm afraid.
SwampWoman said…
OFF TOPIC WARNING:Sorry, I've been *very* busy here these last few days and am barely able to read the comments at night (and usually fall asleep before I finish).

Queen Whitby, you mentioned that you miss Elle. I know that she mentioned being quite busy with work. Did I miss her leaving for some other reason such as being a lightning rod for trolls?

Now, back to the salt mines....
SwampWoman said…
Didn't he use the racism thing before against bias toward the LGBTQ (and whatever else alphabet belongs there) crowd?
KnitWit said…
I love Morse, Lewis, Foyles War... most of the British murder/ mystery/ detective movies/shows. Morse is a favorite.

MM should have watched more British tv. She may have had a better idea of what she got herself into.

LavenderToast said…
Back in November I believe the Archbishop of Canterbury, appeared on Emma Barnett ’s show on BBC Radio 5 earlier this week and called the criticism Meghan has received “totally undeserved.” He also said:

“She’s a person of profound humanity and deep concern for people, seeking to carry out her role with every ounce of her being, and I think she’s a remarkable person,”

If what he said a few months ago and what he said yesterday with the approval of the Queen, then I don't think there is any hope that her Majesty will ever do something to stop the HAMS in their awful behavior toward the Crown and the UK public. It is sad to think it has come to this. I wonder now if the Queen supports this then maybe we are wrong to criticize, just sayin, as much as it galls me. I'm about ready to throw in the towel on thinking things will get better (meaning HAMS will get their comeuppance).
xxxxx said…
The royal domino effect! How Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's retreat to Canada paved the way for other 'unhappy' royals Autumn and Peter Phillips to 'take radical steps to change what's not working for them', psychologist reveals

Exclusive: An expert revealed how Harry and Meghan's escape to Canada may have made it easier for Autumn and Peter Phillips to reassess their own situation
Dr. Becky Spelman, psychologist said family crises often come in multiples, as one incident can trigger other members of the family to look at themselves
Said Harry and Meghan's brave move may have given the Phillips permission to 'put the brakes' on what wasn't working for them

By Jessica Rach For Mailonline
Published: 08:38 EST, 12 February 2020 | Updated: 12:26 EST, 12 February 2020
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7995607/How-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-paved-way-unhappy-royals-Autumn-Peter-Phillips.html
LavenderToast said…
@SwampWoman said re: 'Elle'

""Did I miss her leaving for some other reason such as being a lightning rod for trolls?""

I really don't think she was a lightning rod for trolls. She was very 'out there', writing profusely with a decided opinionated style possessing a thick skin even a hardened attitude that served her well. Her comments were generally incisive but even a glib educated poster should realize someone else might disagree. She gave as good as she got IMO.

Glow W said…
@lavender toast I’m with you in that I think this story is over. They left. Moving on with their lives, supported by BRF....
Glow W said…
Speculation over Toronto mansion sale

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7992183/Meghan-Harry-Toronto-neighborhood-abuzz-sale-11M-mansion.html
Hikari said…
LT,

It wasn't very long ago that I discovered what 'gaslighting' meant. Before I knew that word, I referred to situations in which the 'official' line ran completely contrary to my perceived reality as a "1984 double-plus good". 'Double plus good' is Owellian for 'couldn't be worse'. But in a totalitarian society, genuine expressions of anything negative were disallowed.

Re. Archbishop Welby's remarks . .


>>>“She’s a person of profound humanity and deep concern for people, seeking to carry out her role with every ounce of her being, and I think she’s a remarkable person,”<<<<

What the actual Fluck.

Well, she's 'remarkable' all right, in the way that the current Coronavirus pandemic is 'remarkable'. Or the way the meteoric rise of Hitler was remarkable, followed by his remarkable mass genocide. We have come to use 'remarkable' as a positive accolade for great, postive things, but actually it just means 'worthy of being remarked upon because it's unusual' . . it need NOT mean 'fantastic' and can mean catastrophically awful, like Hurricane Katrina or the 2004 tsunami, or the attack on the Twin Towers. All extremely remarkable events, the like of which had not been seen before.

The Markle fits into this category of remarkableness. Yet somehow I don't think this was Justin Welby's meaning. I've got no use for this guy--who is on the record as declaring himself an atheist. Yes, the #1 Church man in England does not believe in God, or Jesus Christ, which would have seemed to be an iron-clad job requirement. Welby is the CoE's answer to 'woke'. So, he's Meghan's man, serving her and not the Queen. Perhaps one of our British readers could enlighten me as to how the Archbishop of Canterbury is selected. Is he voted to his post by his peers, like the Pope? Or is he appointed by the sovereign, who is Head of the Church?

If Elizabeth, by all accounts an extremely devout woman, appointed, or has even tolerated the installation of a God-and-Christ denying person to this post of top Church man in her Empire, than here is the root of the problem. Rot has set in to the Queen's Church and following thereby into her State and her own house. By his remarks, he ensures that the racial divisiveness stirred up by Satan's agent MM will continue.

The HAMS are a case, writ large and splashed all over the media of evil thriving and thumbing its nose at the good.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ― Edmund Burke

Good men are doing nothing about the Harkles, while corrupt men and institutions praise them to the skies. This is evil in practice, my friends. We are living in interesting times, during which the British monarchy may cease to exist in our lifetimes due to the Markle and the forces which are aiding and abetting her. Lies . . so many lies. What is the truth? Who can tell?
Sandie said…
@xxxxx:

1. Peter and Autumn decided to separate and divorce and told their respective families long before Meghan and Harry went to Canada for their 'break' or started talking to senior royals about wanting to be half in/half out so they could cash in on the royal connection.

2. Meghan and Harry were planning to leave the royal family and become globetrotting billionaire influencers, world-changers from at least the time she was pregnant (the whole break with the Royal Foundation and Kensington Palace was probably to build their own brand in preparation for Megxit).

3. Autumn is not moving to Canada (in fact both Peter and Autumn will continue living on the Gatcombe Estate but will now have separate homes); Peter will continue his connection to his (i.e. royal) family exactly as before; both already participate in private money-making ventures, as they receive no funding from the Crown in any way, and will continue to do so.

Considering the above, the story that the end of the Phillips marriage is in any way connected to Megxit is Meghan ego-inflated PR.
DesignDoctor said…
@Hikari said:

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ― Edmund Burke

Good men are doing nothing about the Harkles, while corrupt men and institutions praise them to the skies. This is evil in practice, my friends. We are living in interesting times, during which the British monarchy may cease to exist in our lifetimes due to the Markle and the forces which are aiding and abetting her. Lies . . so many lies. What is the truth? Who can tell?


I could not agree with you more. Something very untoward is happening when the lies and bad behavior as exhibited by Markle and Harry are allowed to continue without being decisively reprimanded and stopped!

I have read that Her Majesty is adverse to getting involved in family marriage issues. But their actions and behavior go far beyond personal family issues IMO.
Portcitygirl said…
@Hikari,

Tried posting from my phone, but was unsuccessful.😠

I agree with all you so eloquently stated above and also with the good doctor's comment after.

We have long had charlatans in our churches in the states as well. These evil people never rest.

Both my husband and I are Orthodox Christians and it is hard to find a church anymore. Sadly, most of my friends have bought into all of the new age liberalism in their very woke churches.

May God have mercy on our souls.
hardyboys said…
There is no way the Harkles who have never owned a property in their entire lives can afford to run a home in Rosedale, Toronto. Not a chance. The property taxes and utilities require a very consistent steady stream of income. Its a great story to make you go oooh ahhhh. But how do you go from renting a home in Toronto, to a prince who has lived in his government run palace which is akin to council housing as its paid for by the taxpayers to owning a home in one of the most esteemed locations in the world.
@Hikari, I too just learned the meaning of gaslighting sometime in 2019. As I had never heard the word before this particular blog. This is an example of gaslighting. There isn't a scintilla of truth to the Harkles buying props in Rosedale, Montreal or Montecito. Nice try MM.....keep gaslighting....
Portcitygirl said…
And I miss Elle, too. And where is Oz? Hope she is ok.
Bravura said…
@Tatty - I am not 100% on everything that is occurring with the deal (regarding CosenSys and JP Morgan, but it was a bit odd that this literally popped up given the time-line).

@ JocelynsBellinis - Thank you for your input! I was looking into Joseph Lubin a bit last night and you're correct. The connection that did stand out to me was Vitalik Buterin, as he is Russian (nothing against that) and is an acquaintance of Yuri Milner, the Russian Billionaire who supposedly owns the house Markle is in. Yuri is a backer of a lot of dot.com industries and I want to say there was some shadiness going on with Ethereum and BitCoin drama.

This is all very tinfoil hat for me but it gave me pause. I believe JP Morgan was involved in the Panama Papers/Paradise Papers, as was Yuri Milner. The RF was also involved in some way (and many other billionaires as well, so no surprise there). As to how this is all related and linked? No idea. Is there a connection? No idea. Again, just something I saw on Twitter yesterday that piqued my interest and made me pause.

The fact that Harry is speaking at engagements for big banks certainly seems odd.
Ziggy said…
JP Morgan is shady, going all the way back to the man himself.
Discrediting Nicola Tesla's brilliant work to bring free energy (electricity) to the world, in favour of Edison's inferior technology that would make them rich.

And if you really want to get your tinfoil hat on... check out the theories about insurance fraud on the Titanic and taking out all his contemporaries who opposed the federal reserve.

Just the kind of thing these people align themselves with- profit over everything.
Strange how Meghan/Harry are now caught up with Hillary Clinton, Oprah, Ellen- the shadiest of Hollywood!
Hikari said…
PortCity, DD and all,

I borrowed my image of 'rot setting in' from a scene in 'The Crown' in which the Queen's chief secretary, Tommy Lascelles (played consummately by the excellent Pip Torrens) is describing the decline and fall of Edward VII into the moral turpitude which led to his eventual Abdication and the sad and pointless existence he led for the next 35 or so years.

It all started with personal indulgences . . of course, keeping company in a sexual affair with a woman who was still married. David had had lots of affairs before this and was not a substantial person in his character, but I don't think abdicating had ever crossed his mind until Wallis. Ultimately, she didn't want that for him, either, and would have been happy to remain Mrs. Simpson, the mistress of the playboy King. That situation being unacceptable, the courtiers and Parliament forced David to choose--the pleasure of the self or his duty to his country. He chose self, as Harry and his woman have. She can do no other, but it is truly disappointing that within a year of marrying her he was so eager to abandon everything he stood for.

Tommy says that before the final break with Edward, there were other small slippages that added up and contributed to the landslide. He stopped attending church services . . because when we are actively doing wrong things and have no plans to quit doing them, being reminded of our sin is uncomfortable. He also was agitating, as ER and Philip and now Charles, would later do, to vacate Buckingham Palace as the home of the monarch in favor of the cozier Clarence House. Buck House may not be comfortable nor inviting but it is the symbol of the sovereign and deemed important that he/she be in residence there as the continual guardian of the State, at the center of things.

The Bible warned us that there would be days like these. I think it's safe to say that they are here.
Hikari said…
Edward VIII, that should read.
xxxxx said…
@Hikari.... Is there is nothing you don't know? No sarcasm!
Hikari said…
@xxxx

I get a lot of my knowledge of Britain and the monarchy from TV, so I might be entirely off base!
Portcitygirl said…
xxxxx,

Hear, hear!!!

Many are on the same page but Hikari says it best!
Hikari said…
Maybe Harry was cursed from birth by being given the name 'David' as his last middle name. I know David is the patron saint of Wales, but after the whole Affair of 1936, it seems like the family would have wanted to give that name a wide berth due to bad associations. They took care to avoid giving it to Charles or William; maybe they thought it was safe to pass it to Harry, since he was unlikely to get anywhere near the Crown.

Ironically, isn't he acting *just* like Great-great Uncle David, though, having picked a woman so much like Wallis? If that's not doing a disservice to Wallis. Meghan seems worse, but they seem to be cut from the same cloth.
NeutralObserver said…
Yup, JP Morgan is returning to its robber baron roots big time. As I mentioned in an earlier rant, JP Morgan & Goldman Sachs are falling all over themselves in trying to be the sleaziest big banks out there. JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon is trying to put woke lipstick on a pig. Unfortunately, both companies are so big, if they fail, they'll bring a lot of the US economy down with them. They were part of the 'too big to fail' brigade that the US taxpayer had to bail out in the last financial crisis.

The DM is doing yeoman's work reminding us of all of the disreputable things that these two banks have done in the last few decades, but no one is paying attention here in the US to this old financial news or the Harkles. We have too many other things going on.

It's interesting that both Goldman & Morgan seem to be more interested in showcasing Harry than Meghan. A financial genius he isn't. Neither is Markle, but the men who run both companies might mistakenly believe she gives them 'feminist' cred, but neither company wants her to speak, apparently.

Globalization, lower taxes throughout wealthy western countries, & deregulation has produced a world awash with cash. There are a lot of very wealthy people out there with more money than financial acumen. They're the low hanging fruit for any high risk investments companies like Morgan & Goldman might be peddling. People like that might be impressed with a former British prince, or at least amused by him. In the last financial crisis Goldman made $$$ from the losses that they talked their clients into. Nice work when you can get it.

So many good commenters, & I agree Hikari is one of the best!
Glow W said…
Even his father knew David would never be king and if he were king, he would be a terrible one.

It’s a blessing he abdicated.
Glow W said…
@bravura I get it. Maybe Toronto is a bigger hotspot than we all thought (no disrespect intended... I now want to go to see what all the fuss is about)
Hikari said…
@tatty

I'm glad to hear that Albert was better thought-of by his parents than it appears due to depictions of him in popular culture. I loved the film 'The King's Speech', which hint at Bertie's rather desolate and abusive childhood at the hands of sadistic nannies. David seems to have suffered similar, despite being the heir since he seems to have had a sexual pathology that only Wallis could help him with. I feared that due to his stammer and his shyness, Bertie's parents considered him a non-starter, but he certainly stepped up when it was required of him.
Glow W said…
Besides, David never bothered to have children anyway, so what does it matter that he abdicated? He was too selfish to be an effective monarch, which he didn’t want to be.

I’m sure The UK didn’t want someone who just wasn’t into them.
Glow W said…
“George reportedly said that he hoped his eldest son would never have children, paving a path for the more dutiful (if dull) Albert to eventually reign. As George’s health began to decline, and with his eldest son nearing 40, he openly feared what came next, telling Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin, “After I am dead, the boy will ruin himself in twelve months."

In the end, of course, George proved to be right. Edward assumed the throne as Edward VIII in January 1936, following his father’s death. His mercurial behavior earned him few friends in government.”

It’s not the greatest resource on the subject, but it will do for this comment. Just for background info and since there is no hot news... maybe someone wants to read...


https://www.biography.com/news/edward-viii-george-v-edward-viii-difficult-relationship
NeutralObserver said…
To me, the most significant thing about the potential JP Morgan/ConsenSys hookup is that apparently it might be part of JP Morgan's attempt to move into crypto-currencies. We all may be using crypto-currencies someday, but at present a lot of transactions related to terrorism, drugs, human trafficking, & pornography are conducted in BitCoin. Not a nice neighborhood to do business in. We in the Allied nations got very upset with the banks & industries who helped finance the Nazis. This kind of business isn't much of an improvement.

Not saying JP Morgan is involved in any of those horrible things, just wonder if crypto-currencies is a good business to be in. It makes financial transactions even more opaque than they are now.
punkinseed said…
Where oh where is Elle? And Oz? I miss them.
Love your posts Hikari. I agree that David is not a good name for a royal. Another not so good name for a royal is Arthur (as a first name). Seems that any prince named Arthur, like Prince Arthur Tudor, dies young.
punkinseed said…
Tatty, I think there's a very good Youtube about Edward 8 and his father, etc. too.
I'm so bored with the Meg and Harry's gaslighting. I've been into learning more about those crazy Plantagenets and Tudors.
punkinseed said…
Tatty, the reason it was terrible that Edward abdicated is because he dumped all of the responsibilities onto his brother and his family. It literally killed Bertie to be stuck with becoming King, especially when they were on the brink of WW2 with Germany. Selfish, rotten David really messed up his family's lives. Wallis was happy to be the mistress; it was David who demanded the marriage. Plus, if you read further on, you'll find out that he really didn't have to abdicate even if he had married Wallis. Yep! It's true. He could have kept his crown and married Wallis. He just wanted to jump ship because he hated being King.
Sandie said…
:Twinsmama: 'There is no way the Harkles who have never owned a property in their entire lives can afford to run a home in Rosedale, Toronto. Not a chance. The property taxes and utilities require a very consistent steady stream of income. Its a great story to make you go oooh ahhhh. But how do you go from renting a home in Toronto, to a prince who has lived in his government run palace which is akin to council housing as its paid for by the taxpayers to owning a home in one of the most esteemed locations in the world.'

Yep. the DM (and other tabloids) keep printing garbage and I guess most people just believe it and pass it on. Harry does not have the sort of money to but a mansion in any of the places listed by the DM, certainly not with the security and privacy they want. Meghan's wealth has been grossly over-estimated and without Papa Charles paying for her clothes ... well ... there goes the grossly expensive designer gear and accessories. Harry desperately has to make a helluva lot of money quickly to keep Meghan happy and Meghan is trying to sell herself as the most wanted woman in the world, for anything.

Neither of them have the talent to start and run a successful business (producing and selling something useful, like, e.g. solar power equipment), be successful producers/directors in the movie/TV industry, give A-rate performances as actors or singers or musicians ...

It is unfortunate (and I bet there are members of Harry's family who are waiting to say 'told you so') but they are going to form dodgy alliances (like Andrew), be reduced to doing rather tacky stuff (like Fergie, although her latest venture is the best she has done so far in my opinion), and be everyone very quickly with tell-all interviews, guest appearances and celebrity speeches.

I had a look at the two videos about Harry's Invictus race to the South Pole project yesterday. Sure Harry had his problems, but he was focused, adventurous, well liked by everyone, friendly to the media, warm and available for veterans, dedicated to the people and his country and the Crown, and guided and supported by decent ethical people. Two-and-a-half years later he met Meghan, the narcissistic destroyer ...
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NeutralObserver said…
@Hikari, & others, the royals do limit themselves to a very narrow list of possible names, especially for the males, but they do seem to be pretty astute in their assessments of one another. They also seem to be very tolerant of each other's foibles, but they also seem protective of the top job. They want the throne to go to someone who can handle it, or at least they did in the last century, & there are rumors that QEII is reluctant to handover to Charles in the current one.

One last thought on the Harkles' US speeches. Sadly ,the US is a country in which at one time people paid several hundred dollars a piece to see Charlie Sheen rant about his HIV positive status, & his drug & alcohol addictions. What the RF should know as they watch Harry expose his angst, or whatever, in front of various audiences, Charlies Sheen's audience was laughing AT him, not WITH him.
Hikari said…
Elizabeth did not become Heiress Presumptive officially until the Abdication when she was 10 but discussions within the Palace about the likelihood that she would eventually be Queen commenced practically as soon as she was born. By the time she was 3 or so it seemed inevitable that Uncle David was going to be a lifelong childless bachelor. Perhaps in Royal physician circles it was even known that he was incapable of siring children. It makes me wonder therefore why she was not more rigorously prepared to be Queen if they knew it was coming. I admire many things about ER but she seems almost pathologically afraid of confrontation. Quite nearly incapable of decisiveness. All her life she has been insulated by other predominantly male figures doing the deciding, with herself as the immaculately turned out face of the Firm. She married an Alpha male and gave him as much influence as Prince Albert had. If Elizabeth had been allowed to choose, I think she’d have given the whole thing a miss and been happy to be an aristocratic housewife playing with her dogs and horses. She has never been a strong hand on the till so much as a twig carried along by the current of history. I know she is beloved but her main achievement as monarch seems to be her longevity more than anything. In the twilight of her reign she’s in danger of losing the one thing that matters most: the confidence of her people that the Crown should continue.

It’s my American ingrained drive to self improvement I suppose that makes me feel that if one has a role of authority, one should strive to rise to that role instead of being content to let ones limitations define how the role is done. To put aside one’s own personal inclinations, and become the person in the role requires. Elizabeth has done this to some degree in her state role, But her interpersonal role in managing her family has always been weak, Bury one’s head in the sand time to avoid uncomfortable conversations. As a result, all her children have been some degree of flicked up, And their marriages and their children have suffered for it. In the current situation, she has allowed Charles and Andrew to oust Lord G. And other firmer hands that might’ve helped her deal with the Harry situation. And Peter before him… It seems like Harry is taking Peter as a role model for how he wants to live his life: Exploding his Royal connection for large cash payouts and free housing but no onerous Royal duties. Except that Peter doesn’t receive tax payer money for his security or lifestyle, and has spent two decades working real jobs after obtaining an education. The queens disinclination to get involved in the lives of her heirs is going to be the downfall of her house the way it’s going.


gabes_human said…
@Charade: Do you mean to tell me that the earth DOESN’T revolve around Harry and MeGain? I’m devasted. Alert the presses and NASA.

Queen Whitby, Swamp Woman. Hi girls, I also miss Elle and her insight. I hope she’s OK. She’s one of the OGs here and has a delightful writing style. Maybe she just needed a break from all this insanity. I had to escape for the month of Dec.-a total electronic disconnect.

I hate to hear about any marriage ending with Peter and Autumn being no exception. I mot commenting on it here or any other place but to say it’s high time Megsy gets credit for something that isn’t glowing-even if it is made up.

Split pea soup is simmering nicely so I’ll toddle off to read the latest HarryMarkle as I raise my glass to all we baby boomers out there.
LavenderToast said…
@Hikari said:

""Yet somehow I don't think this was Justin Welby's meaning. I've got no use for this guy--who is on the record as declaring himself an atheist. Yes, the #1 Church man in England does not believe in God, or Jesus Christ, which would have seemed to be an iron-clad job requirement. Welby is the CoE's answer to 'woke'. So, he's Meghan's man, serving her and not the Queen.""

I am gobsmacked that Welby is an atheist!!! Just stunning...how could the Queen appoint an atheist. I have lost a large amount of respect for her now!!

Here is what I found on how the Archbishop of Canterbury is selected. And indeed it does involve the Queen's approval.

"The responsibility for choosing the next Archbishop of Canterbury rests with the Crown Nominations Commission (CNC). Its task is to submit the name of a preferred candidate (and a second appointable candidate) to the Prime Minister who is constitutionally responsible for tendering advice on the appointment to the Queen."

Bravura said…
@NeutralObserver

"To me, the most significant thing about the potential JP Morgan/ConsenSys hookup is that apparently it might be part of JP Morgan's attempt to move into crypto-currencies. We all may be using crypto-currencies someday, but at present a lot of transactions related to terrorism, drugs, human trafficking, & pornography are conducted in BitCoin. Not a nice neighborhood to do business in. We in the Allied nations got very upset with the banks & industries who helped finance the Nazis. This kind of business isn't much of an improvement.

Not saying JP Morgan is involved in any of those horrible things, just wonder if crypto-currencies is a good business to be in. It makes financial transactions even more opaque than they are now."

Ding Ding Ding! Now you're connecting the dots the same way I am. I see the connection to Yuri Milner who is absolutely involved in Crypto Currency and who is also (supposedly) leasing them this fancy house in Vancouver. BitCoin is another way that many Yachters like to get paid and given Megan's prior history, and the dark history that is tied up with escorting and human trafficking, we can see how they might make for bed fellows here (pun intended).

I am honestly not one to fly the conspiracy flag or don any kind of tinfoil cap, but this is weird. It could be innocent but this is JP Morgan we are talking about. Everything they do is done with specific intention and reason, so what is that reason? And why are they - and Goldman Sachs - so keen on Harry speaking at their events? The man has no experience with investing. He's not marketable. What are they using his image for? Is this just another layer of blackmail we aren't privy to?

Lord, I need some wine. This is all getting a bit dark and weird for me. Even Ancient Aliens is starting to sound like light viewing in comparison, lol (which is high praise as that show makes me twitchy as hell given my love of all things history). ;)
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Glow W said…
@punkinseed oh, me too. I spent all weekend going over Henry VIII and all his wives, their last words, how some of them were related, their lineage, who associated with them was executed. And then I did the issues and poor Lady Jane Grey. Then I went over to Mary Queen of Scorts and James V/I. Then I went back to Mary’a Husband Phillip of Spain and caught up with what he did after she died (he lived a very very long time!!)

So bored, lol. If you think about it though, throughout the bands of times, HAMS is small change.
Wanda said…
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@Gabes_human . "@Charade: Do you mean to tell me that the earth DOESN’T revolve around Harry and MeGain? I’m devasted. Alert the presses and NASA."

Oh dear, this had me laughing hard. Glass raised backatcha. I love pea soup but no piggie parts please. This whole sorry saga has devolved into a media frenzy to outdo each other in sheer ludicrousness. We have The Times writing that the Queen "told friends" her feelings on the M&H saga, The Mirror and Sun showing a page 1 photo of Meghan carrying a giant doll, and all the lesser papers making up utter bilge about transplants, throngs of paps hiding out in Saanich (they aren't), Harry being instructed to lose weight and shape himself up for Hollywood, and how Harry is making a fortune endlessly burbling on about his dead mother.

It's all to sell papers because reading about H&M has become as addictive as Cheezies. If I don't find a few articles or videos to look at during breakfast, I get withdrawal symptoms.

I do not believe that H&M were at the JP Morgan do. A single photo released by their PR team(?) is clearly PS'd. Look at the outline on Harry's right arm. All those people, all signing NDAs, just doesn't happen without someone, somehow, taking a pic.

Just want to ask here, did someone view a private jet coming to YVR from Miami, on FlightAware? There are a lot of very wealthy people in Vancouver, as there are in most cities, and a $14,000,000 mansion is nothing unusual. Heck, we have them twice that price. So that flight could have been anyone.
Sandie said…
Justin Welby: He has many faults, including being besotted with Meghan, which makes him a bad judge of character, but to say he does not believe in God or Jesus Christ is to repeat a falsehood. On the contrary, his belief in God and Jesus Christ is based on personal spiritual experience rather than faith.
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Portcitygirl said…
For all concerned about narc terms, such as gaslighting- Dr Les Carter is an expert in this field. I have been to many docs and therapists and he is the best. Out of Dallas TX and you can call for an appointment.

For those whom I have already shared this, please disregard.
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Hikari said…
@Sandie

“Personal spiritual experience” and “faith” are to me interchangeable terms unless Mr, Welby is claiming some personal audience with the face of the Lord God Almighty like Moses or the prophet Elijah.

Based on his endorsement of Meg as previously stated, my opinion of Mr Welby’s understanding of a true Christianity is very low. He may have actually called himself an agnostic rather than an atheist. His willingness to go on record in praising Meghan as some sort of woke secular humanist goddess speaks very poorly of his discernment, which is one of the fruits of the true Spirit. Mr Welby is either deceived by or complicit with the whore of Babylon in the person of MM. He should be chastising her for her behavior, not praising it.

He is a false minister who has presided over a sham wedding and if Meg’s PR is to be believed, a sham christening. “Personal spiritual experience” can be code for ”God is whatever floats your boat.” We know Meg worships money and fame. So what does it say about Welby that he calls her a remarkable, dedicated wonderful person? He is disseminating her lies.

“Satan’s greatest achievement is convincing people he does not exist.” Paraphrasing CS Lewis
LavenderToast said…
@BlueBellk Woods

Well, I am ashamed to admit I took what Hikari wrote was true, that Welby was an atheist (but I vaguely thought I had seen it mentioned in an article in the past). I should have looked into it further because I did a search on Wikipedia and there was no mention of him being an atheist which I found unusual if he was and why it would not be mentioned. Taught me a lesson and I do really like what Hikari writes so maybe she has some info we don't know? One interesting thing Wiki noted is that Welby speaks in tongues and says he does it every day; certainly a fundamentalist aspect of Christianity,

As for the article, I appreciate you bringing it to my attention. His words are certainly true for many people, especially when one has been affected by great tragedy or has pondered how a God, a loving supreme being could allow grave suffering in the world. Having fleeting doubts does not make one an atheist in my book.
Glow W said…
@lighthealer Astrid, have you been holding out on us regarding a JP. Morgan event pic?
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lizzie said…
I'm no great theologian, and I do understand that questioning one's faith can occur in life no matter one's position.

But I don't understand Welby. He says he is 100% certain about the existence of Jesus. And he's not just talking about Jesus as an historical figure--- he says he feels his presence beside of him every day. Yet he admits to having occasional doubts about the existence of God. That's an unusual position for a Christian to take, it seems to me. God may not be real but his son is? Or Jesus wasn't the son of God but his spiritual powers exist to this day? At best, that is not a mainstream Christian belief and some might see it as quite ominous.

Welby's determined defense of M is odd to me too. It is as though he's "besotted." His public statement about royals "deserving" time off from work was weird too. He does seem determined to be "non-traditional" in every way. I can't imagine he says these things with TQ's blessing.
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LavenderToast said…
@Hikari said;

"" He should be chastising her for her behavior, not praising it.

and..” We know Meg worships money and fame. So what does it say about Welby that he calls her a remarkable, dedicated wonderful person? He is disseminating her lies.""

I wholeheartedly agree with you! Welby had ample evidence of how horrible Meghan was as far as being a faux humanitarian, a woman obsessed with wealth (and Harry too) and being so disrespectful to the Crown and the UK public. It's bad enough he does not come out and urge the awful duo to do what is right as the bible says 'to much is given much is expected'. To make matters worse he praises her. It's like a cleric singing the praises of a serial killer instead of condemning a person for their evil act.

I wonder how much the Queen is maybe influenced by Welby. I wonder of it is possible Her Majesty has gone soft due to Welby's private counsel.
Hi @Tatty and @BlueBell Woods, I saw one on a couple of sites (the same image) Who put it out, I have no clue. Someone thought it was from a previous tour of Dublin. I think I saw one pic on a site I have been to only once as a lot of things being said made no sense to me. DanjaZone? The other reference to it was on Tumbler. I just googled Harry and Meghan Dublin, and the same clothes came up so definitely not Miami. Also, I am not on my iMac and can see that the arm I said had an outline actually doesn't - it is the light shining between his arm and Meghan. So mea culpa there. I remain convinced these two were not in Miami.
AnneE said…
I don't know if everyone knows this, but the term "gas lighting" comes (I believe) from the 1944 film Gaslight, where Charles Boyer tries to drive Ingrid Bergman (his wife) insane by, among other things, turning the lights up or down and making her think that they hadn't been changed. Very scary!! I seem to remember that he is trying to get his hands on her money!

This is my first post, and am excited to join in the conversation!
LavenderToast said…
@Anne E

Welcome! New people are always appreciated here/
Wanda said…
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Yup Danja Zone. I haven't located the second incidence of it yet.
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Fifi LaRue said…
No, the Harkles didn't get much past $50,000 because Gayle King got them the gig at the last minute. She dragged them along because Meghan begged for something, anything. The Harkles were not the main attraction at the JP Morgan event. As someone else noted, speakers are contracted for events about a year in advance. Gayle King, whether you agree or not, is a high-powered individual, as is other in-demand speakers, i.e., Obama, Clinton, etc. They all have packed schedules, and assistants who run their calendars and engagements. The Harkles have nothing on their schedule, and could be had at the last minute for chump change. The Harkles got chump change for the "whining like a drunk at the end of the bar," as one attendee tweeted.

And, maybe there was an agreement in there. Favors aren't free. The Harkles had to agree to something to pay back the favor. So, what would that be? An exclusive appearance on Oprah or an exclusive interview in O Magazine? An appearance on Gayle King's show? A prime time interview with the Harkles and Gayle King?
hunter said…
Not sure if I have posted this here, I don't think so:


I have a friend in Miami who only knows of the H&M saga through my occasional FB posts to illuminate and entertain my private friend group.

This Miami friend told me she was recently speaking with a gentleman friend who works in finance and had just been to the event (!!) he was telling her Harry spoke of his dead mom grief again and made more dog-and-pony comments about saving the planet.

Sounds like this was a casual conversation and she said she has no reason to doubt him. She wanted to pass it along to me because my social network thinks it's all a bit funny that I even follow this thing. I only post about it maybe once a month or so, nobody wants to know the DETAILSSLLSLSLSLSLSLsss like we do.

Nobody cares waaaa!!!!
ha!

So that's as close to first-hand as I can get. Sounded like it had just happened.
hunter said…
@Unknown -

Someone mentioned they may have been dinner banquet speakers which differs from a conference keynote speaker.

A dinner banquet speaker is there for your amusement (or not) and keynote speakers are usually celebrated notables from some particular arena, like Obama or Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk or the Dalai Lama for chrissakes but not the Smirkles.
hunter said…
As mentioned before, I worked in banks for many years doing various governance types of things including types of risk assessments and compliance. Mind-numbing, all of it - but what I can tell you is this:

All banks are all doing the same bad things in the same (or different!) ways. They are all thieving heathens, SORRY MOM!

The amount of stuff that was accepted and swept under the rug was astonishing, those of you wondering about what banks may be up to. I worked for a person who oversaw the administration of the Iraqi Oil For Food program, which later bit the bank in the ass big time.

Nobody cares. They just keep banking. They pull money out of thin air. High-frequency trading? The whole thing is a rigged freakshow. Read any of Michael Lewis's books from Liar's Poker to The Big Short to Flashboys, nobody cares about anything, it's insanity.
Fifi LaRue said…
@ Hunter: Thanks for the info about the difference in speakers. Can you imagine The Harkles speaking in turn while forks and knives are clanking on plates, people are talking to waitstaff, people cough, go to the restroom, get loud from too much alcohol, the waitstaff is busy scurrying about the room. Yeah, not much of an audience.
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HappyDays said…
Welcome AnneE. You’ve joined a group that make some insightful, and humorous comments, with occasional ventures into food, and drink, ourselves, our families and, of course, Meghan the narcissist and her 40-watt prince, all led by nutty’s timely and smartly-written posts!
Magatha Mistie said…
I’m reading Anne Glenconner “Lady in Waiting”
She was Lady in Waiting, & a friend to Princess Margaret.
She was unofficially engaged to Johnnie Spencer until Lady Fermoy, with whom she was staying as a paying guest, clapped eyes on him.
The next time Johnnie called on Anne, Lady Fermoy introduced him to her daughter Frances who she had taken out of school for the occasion. Anne was dumped, & at the age of 18 Frances married Johnnie Althorpe Spencer. Manipulator, Meg would approve!!

Later Lady Fermoy, during Johnnie & Frances divorce testified in court against her daughter which helped Johnnie gain custody of the children. Wow, Mommie Dearest!

Lady Fermoy was a friend & Woman of the Bed chamber to the Queen mother.

According to Lady Colin Campbell, not sure of her veracity, the Spencer’s & Fermoy’s had been hoping for a Royal marriage for years & had planned for Diana to marry Prince Andrew, hence Diana’s nickname Duch. They must have been ecstatic when Diana landed Charles!

Later articles claim that Lady Fermoy had regrets keeping quiet about Diana’s mental instability before she married Charles, the Spencer’s were complicit in this.

Poor Diana, screwed all round.

Justin Welby: sometimes, in fact very often, I despair of him.

He is such an embarrassment - too heavenly minded to be any earthly use. Seems too concerned with being/appearing Nice to use his critical faculties - a truly lousy judge of character and completely unaware of how much damage he's doing us as Church and nation by his ill-judged words.

I see that the informants he quotes are women - I'd lay a pound to a penny that there are plenty of white women who could say exactly the same when it comes to taking on roles in church life beyond being bums-on-seats, cleaning, doing the flowers and raising money.

Welby is some years younger than me so my memory, goes back to a a time well before women could be ordained into the Anglican church, when those who wished to be scholarly theologians could be treated atrociously, even when they were the intellectual equals of, or had finer brains than, those who sought to deprive them of education. I'm talking about white English women.

Until Welby does penance for that, I'm not listening.

Magatha Mistie said…
@Wild Boar
Strictly low church, hells, bells & smells don’t do it for me.
We may have women priests but the battle is ongoing no matter the colour.
Women should stand together collectively, bringing race into it doesn’t help the cause just reinforces the male perception that we are weak & whiny.
The church is the oldest “boys club” Welby is one of the boys, he just dresses it up to suit the narrative.

Welby is a Prig, typo 😉
Sandie said…
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1241494/Meghan-Markle-news-Prince-Harry-security-private-latest-news-sussex-royal

This is the kind of PR push we are going to see a lot as Meghan and Harry insist on 24/7, full taxpayer-funded security.

Eugene and Beatrice were fourth and fifth in the line of succession when their government security was stopped (replaced by minimum private security).
Magatha Mistie said…
@Sandie
I agree, they will use this to ensure they have “top cops” guarding them forever more. What a waste of money which is needed to police the streets of London & beyond. Sickening.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ Hikari---I'm sure the Royal Marines *can't wait* to have their traitorous Captain General back for a 'farewell'. I think Auntie Anne had been accompany him so he doesn't get hurt. I'm serious.

-----------------------------

We veterans have a way of dealing with scum on our boots. Harry has blotted his copybook but good.
Magatha Mistie said…
Lt Nyota
I agree, I’m ex Army, Princess Anne is my C in C, Royal Signals. Harry’s dereliction of duty amounts to desertion. This disrespect for the forces, & their families is disgusting. I pledged my allegiance to the Queen, ongoing, pity Harry doesn’t.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@Magatha, grabbing y0ur hand.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7997909/STEPHEN-GLOVER-Im-queasy-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle.html

Stephen Glover is being polite and understated, in the English way.

I doubt that BP and senior royals are going to do what is required and cut the Sussexes loose to be fully private individuals as are their cousins. That is a pity, because people are not stupid and their reckless and relentless pursuit of wealth and influence is very clear ... watch this space for more Andrew-like scandals (the articles about the dubious ethics of the financial institutions they are talking to are just the beginning).

The Andrew saga went on for years and he had to give a disastrous interview, in which he tripped himself up with lies. What will Meghan and Harry have to do for the BRF to see the light and do what they must do?
Magatha Mistie said…
The RF have seen the light, they’re waiting for the Quislings to burn themselves.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
We Britons, we must do our best.
I was waiting in the car for my husband this morning when he nipped into Asda for a few things while we were out and when he returned he was giggling to himself. I asked what was funny and he replies with "I've just been served by Prince Harry" lol apparently one of the workers looks just like him.

Reading that back, I think it might have been a "you had to be there" moment as it doesn't sound half as funny as it was at the time, but I'll still post because I'm finding it quite amusing imagining Harry stuck behind a till in an Asda in an unimportant nowhere-town in Yorkshire earning his minimum wage.

(For any Americans, Asda is our Walmart equivalent - I think. I know Walmart bought Asda a while back at any rate)
SwanSong said…
Excellent Op/Ed today in the NY Post.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/12/it-didnt-take-long-for-harry-and-meghan-to-prove-they-are-hypocrites/
Sandie said…
It's a long read, but it shows the shady side of promotions/investments ...

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-2871#post-54779265

Here is the relevant excerpt:

'Mr Hon chaired Gate from August 2015 to December 2017. Documents seen by The Times show that during 2017 and early 2018, he charged Gate £2.9 million in expenses, £900,000 of which went on “PR, introductory, sponsorship and arrangement” fees and “corporate entertainment”.

The bills included:
• Meetings with film stars including Robert De Niro and Samuel L Jackson.
• A £10,000 meeting with Prince Harry at a Coldplay concert and an £8,000 tea with the Duchess of York.'

Can anyone find the dates when Coldplay performed in London in 2017/2018? Harry met Meghan May 2016 and they announced their engagement October 2018 (Meghan had moved in with Harry by that stage and made preparations for a life with him early 2017), so this meeting with Mr Hon.

In my country we call people like Mr Hon rent-seekers, and we have a lot of them and their needs are voracious. Come to think of it, aren't Harry and Meghan also rent-seekers?

Rent-seeking (def.): when an entity seeks to gain added wealth without any reciprocal contribution of productivity; seeking to increase one's share of existing wealth without creating new wealth

Wikipedia has along article on this concept.
Sandie said…
Sorry, but there is an unfinished thought (plus a typo!) in the previous post ... the meeting between Mr Hon and Harry took place when Meghan was firmly entrenched in Harry's life and angling for that wedding ring.
lizzie said…
@Sandie wrote

>>Harry met Meghan May 2016 and they announced their engagement October 2018<<

I think they got engaged in 2017 and married in 2018.
Hikari said…
An excerpt from Welby's 2014 interview about his experience of God:

BBC Bristol's Lucy Tegg, the interviewer, reminded him of the weight his words carried. "You have a remarkably prominent role within the faith community around the world," Tegg said.


"I've noticed," Welby quipped.

Tegg then asked: "Do you ever doubt?"

Welby replied: "Yes. I do. In lots of different ways really. It's a very good question. That means I've got to think about what I'm going to say. Yes I do." He added: "I love the Psalms, if you look at Psalm 88, that's full of doubt."

Welby suggested that his doubts were a regular occurrence, by recounting the recent morning run with his dog.

"The other day I was praying as I was running and I ended up saying to God: 'Look, this is all very well but isn't it about time you did something – if you're there' – which is probably not what the archbishop of Canterbury should say." He added: "It is not about feelings, it is about the fact that God is faithful and the extraordinary thing about being a Christian is that God is faithful when we are not."

Later in the interview, Welby said he was certain, however, about the existence of Jesus, even talking about his presence beside him.

"We know about Jesus, we can't explain all the questions in the world, we can't explain about suffering, we can't explain loads of things but we know about Jesus," Welby said. "We can talk about Jesus – I always do that because most of the other questions I can't answer." Asked what he did when life got challenging, Welby said: "I keep going and call to Jesus to help me, and he picks me up."

**************

I had read Welby referenced as an atheist in another publication somewhere, but I do not have receipts for this, and have just read this interview for the first time. Appointed the year after William and Catherine got married, he did not really cross my radar in any significant way until his association with the HAMS saga.

Hikari said…
Having doubts doesn't negate faith . . the Bible is full of human doubt--even, incredible as it seems to us reading today--from persons who actually walked with Jesus when He was in His earthly life. Even people like Moses who was one of the only humans to ever be in the presence of God directly still screwed up. We humans are a stubborn lot. It takes a lot of courage for a person of faith to admit to doubts. Martin Luther suffered from profound depression all his life, so professing a belief in God is no inoculation against bad feelings. And we humans have no answer for why a purportedly loving and all-powerful God permits devastating tragedies to befall mankind without intervening. Why does He allow innocent people to suffer terrible things? The only answer I have is, "I don't know. He just does, and one day I will understand why." Jesus is the human face of an often impenetrable and inaccessible God . . He was sent to be God among us, in a form we could better relate to, since He was like us. It doesn't surprise me that Mr. Welby finds Jesus more relatable--I think we all feel that way.

I admit that I am biased against him due to his blinkeredness about Meghan, and what I detect as a rather flippant manner. He hardly knows her, so was just the kind of person--male, a short-term acquaintance, someone she needed to impress to win over to her side--which she excels at charming. But a seasoned and mature man of faith and principle should not be so easily deceived. His standards ought to be much higher than the usual target Meg tries her wiles on. Welby also abuses his position in my opinion by inserting himself into politics. He has much to say about Brexit and the economies of developing nations. He sits on a Parliamentary commission on banking. I confess it was news to this American that the Archbishop of Canterbury sits in Parliament and is head of an influential voting bloc of bishops. Talk about mixing Church and State . . not sure how this mixture is workable in a modern Britain, and the answer appears to be 'it isn't.' With more than half of Britons claiming 'no religious belief/affiliation' and only a third of the UK identifying as CoE, Welby's institution is facing obsolescence. What does a modern Archibishop of Canterbury look like? Welby, evidently.

The Guardian, in particular, has published a number of articles questioning Welby's new Church order and has called him 'misguided'.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/01/justin-welby-interview-reimagining-britain-archbishop-of-canterbury
@Sandie,
Can anyone find the dates when Coldplay performed in London in 2017/2018?

I can't seem to find a London date on here for 2017/2018, could it have been one of the 2016 ones? Interestingly, the 28th June 2016 one has Kensington Palace listed as the venue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Head_Full_of_Dreams_Tour#Tour_dates

I suppose they could have held (or been part of) a non-tour related concert, if so I haven't found one yet.

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