Not much appears to be going on. Living Legends came and went without fanfare ... what's the next event? Super Bowl - Sunday February 11th? Oscar's - March 10th? In the mean time, some things are still rolling along in various starts and stops like Samantha's law suit. Or tax season is about to begin in the US. The IRS just never goes away. Nor do bills (utility, cable, mortgage, food, cars, security, landscape people, cleaning people, koi person and so on). There's always another one. Elsewhere others just continue to glide forward without a real hint of being disrupted by some news out of California. That would be the new King and Queen or the Prince/Princess of Wales. Yes there are health risks which seemed to come out of nowhere. But. The difference is that these people are calmly living their lives with minimal drama.
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Just want to add a bit of outrage ... Meghan probably did what she does: play the little girl, adoring looks (there was one during the wedding ceremony caught on camera); a lot of word salad that sounded like a deep spirituality and commitment to the CoE but was actually just a mish-mash of quotes researched online ... that Welby fell for it and continues to inappropriately speak up for Meghan is an indication that he is a bad judge of character and is besotted with a woman who has not given him a second thought (she just needed him for the conversion, otherwise she could never be Queen consort, and the wedding ceremony).
I believe it was with MI6
(Jk)
As usual, a concise and thought-provoking post. I couldn't agree with you more.
I wish Welby could see it, but he probably couldn't see how it relates to him.
1. Harry and Meghan met May 2016 and officially announced engagement November 2017.
2. I can find dates for Coldplay concerts in London for June 2016 (Kensington Palace and Harry was there) and again in November 2016.
Apologies to Meghan ... her and Harry met just over a month before that Coldplay concert and I doubt even she moved that fast.
Justin Welby is what we in the Lutheran Church call a 'second career' minister. He didn't start out to be a Church man . . he worked happily for many years at a big oil company. He has been quoted as saying "I know a bit about banks". In 2012, he was added to a Parliamentary commission on, what else . .banking.
He married the HAMS and supposedly christened their son, Archie. I saw the first one with my own eyes and remain doubtful about the second, but in any case, the Archbishop's meetings with Megs have been very few and far between, and even if he did baptize her baby in July, I doubt that he's spoken to her since then. But in the very same week that the HAMS get into bed with JP Morgan Chase and Harry's former meetings with Goldman Sachs were revealed, here's the Archbishop piping up about how dedicated, kind and remarkable Meghan is?
I find the timing incredibly suspect . . .given Welby's self-professed involvement with the banking industry. He claims to be profoundly concerned about the economic vulnerability to exploitation of developing nations. It is a Christian duty to have concern for the poor, and be charitable to the poor. But I'm not sure God envisioned this kind of charity as the Queen's top Church man sitting on a banking committee.
I feel that we are embroiled in something very sinister. Kind of like a da Vinci Code plot. Illuminati, except with the intent to obscure everything, even to whether Meg and Harry actually went to Miami. It's confounding.
If this is true, she appears very immature and more interested in the snapshots of the Instagram world than actual life. If this is to be believed, this nearly 40 year old woman is perfectly happy living in someone else's house while she walks her dogs and has no emotions for her husband who has literally left everything he ever knew.
Most of us would have supreme, profound, staggering feelings of guilt and sadness for walking away from a life of service and stewardship that we had pledged to undertake. She did not even make it 2 years! In the engagement interview she said she could not wait to get to work on behalf of the BRF. At the women's panel last year she claimed to never read anything about herself online. Now she is suing MoS and has walked away from her duty. But she's happier than ever?!
ABC Justin Welty is not an atheist. Headlines are misleading and his words were taken out of context. I think he is pretty “woke.” Here is a quote from a Guardian article:
“The other day I was praying as I was running and I ended up saying to God: 'Look, this is all very well but isn't it about time you did something – if you're there' – which is probably not what the archbishop of Canterbury should say." He added: "It is not about feelings, it is about the fact that God is faithful and the extraordinary thing about being a Christian is that God is faithful when we are not." “
If you want more, please read the Guardian article (the whole thing). It isn’t long.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/18/archbishop-canterbury-doubt-god-existence-welby
Late to the party again. So glad they didn't show up to the Oscars. I don't watch it, I record it only for the In Memoriam segment. So sad to see that Luke Perry didn't make it. Ah well.
OK when I finally got to bed late last night, I thought I'd wind down and catch up on the news. I don't know if anyone's run across it (and apologies if it's already been posted) but here's an interesting article about the Gruesome Twosome from the New York Post:
https://nypost.com/2020/02/12/it-didnt-take-long-for-harry-and-meghan-to-prove-they-are-hypocrites/
I thoroughly enjoyed it. ~~back to catching up~~
https://airmail.news/issues/2020-2-8/the-makings-of-a-royal-mess?utm_source=share
tless families when a new wife from a different cadre comes on the scene?” an insider points out. “I know for a fact that Harry was complicit in all these decisions. He’s been shaking up the bottle for years. Meghan simply took the cork out.”
When the Sussexes informed Prince Charles that they intended to take an extended break in Canada over Christmas, he was said to have asked them to first come to Sandringham, and leave right after church. One insider recalls, “[Charles] said to them, ‘Come for one night and go on your break—you don’t have to stay for days. It could be Granny’s last Christmas, it could be Prince Philip’s.’ The reply was ‘Absolutely not.’” Again, the Los Angeles team was brought in to broker the details.
Harry needed an "L.A. team" installed by Megs to 'broker' a holiday break away from his aged grandparents?
I have no words for this. It sounding like Charles was doing his best to coax them into the minimum of Christmas time with the family without creating a scene. I really am starting to question if the person we knew as Harry is still in there, or if Meg has replaced him with a robot to do her bidding. To refuse a single day to visit his grandparents when both are so elderly and really, Philip could leave us at any time, is just beyond cold.
I've seen several headlines about the joint visit of the Cambridges with Chas and Camilla to the servicemen's rehabilitation center (just the kind of visit which Harry should have been making), and the question being posed "Will the bond between Charles and William save the monarchy?"
Until the HAMS came on the scene, the prevailing story was that William was quite estranged from his dad, and wasn't letting Charles see the children. Now their bond is so tight, it's going to save the monarchy. I expect the truth is somewhere in between . . probably inching toward the warmer end now, since the two will have been spending a lot of fraught time together hammering out Mexit. For better or worse, William has to shadow his father now as much as possible in preparation for what's coming.
I was reviewing some old pictures and there's one from the ToC balcony last year where Charles is turned, cracking up at something Louis, being held by his father, is doing. Chas looks completely delighted by his youngest grandchild . .as he did during his family birthday portraits when infant Louis almost took his eye out. Based on these interactions, things don't seem frosty between Wills and his dad.
Imagine your 30-something son and wife agreeing to taking your money, but refusing to attend family holidays. Where have we seen that before? Poor Thomas Markle was good enough for MM to take his money for expensive schooling and a nice lifestyle, but when he begged her to visit him, the reply was "Absolutely not" (I am paraphrasing).
My grandfather died suddenly. I wish so much I could have a few hours just visiting and talking to him again.
Thank for you for such an interesting article on HAMS. My take away was that it favored them with the spin. Possibly trying to improve Harry's image as a beta and while at the same time softening MM's as a total alpha control biatch with little concern for anyone other than herself. Also, again putting them in the same category as the Obamas and the Clintons.
I have no respect for either of the above but they were POTUS and FLOTUS times two. What do these two grifters have to offer outside of the RF? Ask me what Clinton and Obama did for the homeless and inner city kids during their reign or now? Nothing from what I've seen other than line their own pockets with their pretend charities and speeches.
Harry and Megs aren't fooling anyone. They want to be bigger than the Monarchy and these two narcs weren't about to walk behind or bow to anyone in the firm. Narcs can't stand to be second to anyone and have no feelings or remorse about much of anything.
Hopefully, going no contact will benefit the Monoarchy, but they will be doing damage control forever. Malignant narcs- MM- are very dangerous. So they will have to be very vigilant and try to stay two steps ahead of the dastardly duo of disasters.
Thank for you for such an interesting article on HAMS. My take away was that it favored them with the spin. Possibly trying to improve Harry's image as a beta and while at the same time softening MM's as a total alpha control biatch with little concern for anyone other than herself. Also, again putting them in the same category as the Obamas and the Clintons.
I have no respect for either of the above but they were POTUS and FLOTUS times two. What do these two grifters have to offer outside of the RF? Ask me what Clinton and Obama did for the homeless and inner city kids during their reign or now? Nothing from what I've seen other than line their own pockets with their pretend charities and speeches.
Harry and Megs aren't fooling anyone. They want to be bigger than the Monarchy and these two narcs weren't about to walk behind or bow to anyone in the firm. Narcs can't stand to be second to anyone and have no feelings or remorse about much of anything.
Hopefully, going no contact will benefit the Monoarchy, but they will be doing damage control forever. Malignant narcs- MM- are very dangerous. So they will have to be very vigilant and try to stay two steps ahead of the dastardly duo of disasters.
The new TP1 Tweet:
Darling, the family you never had has not forgotten your particular liking of polygamy!
All I can guess is Meghan is cheating on Harry, but polygamy is when a man has multiple wives, so perhaps Meghan is “playing house” with another man on the side. On the other hand, maybe TP1 is confusing polygamy with polyandry, which is when a woman has mire than one husband.
Definitions aside, narcissists like Meghan are notorious cheaters when in a marriage or relationship. They are often seeking additional narcissistic fuel and the endorphin high of a new relationship.
Cheating also happens when a narc is getting ready to bail out of their current relationship. They want to be sure they will have an unbroken supply stream of intimate partner fuel. Meghan Is said to have cheated on Trevor with multiple men before landing under Cory the chef, and then cheated on Cory to land under Harry.
So perhaps now that she’s achieved getting Harry down the aisle to get the royal title, getting or having a quickie baby as a financial anchor, getting out of the UK to return to this side of the pond, lining up her new life and shopping for a home in the US for herself, she might be so full of arrogance to believe that if she dumps Harry, she will still have doors open to her that formerly wouldn’t that now open because she is a famous duchess.
This is what is known as magical thinking, which is a frequent narcissistic behavior.
However, she is too arrogant to think that if or when she dumps 40-Watt, that her well-used race card will keep HM or Charles, or William from removing her duchess title based on the inappropriateness of her not becoming a UK citizen and ulterior and deceptive motives for marrying Harry in the first place, which would likely be discussed in British divorce court hearings.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8001073/American-media-begins-turn-freeloading-cynical-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle.html
Also, tp is a troll... and an idiot who doesn’t know what polygamy is.
Just read this! Comments are brutal!
They are in the same company as the Clintons and Obamas. People have no idea how many people dislike them. Unfortunately, there are enough woke dummies in Cananda and the US to pad MM and PH's pockets, just like the O's and C's. My guess is that is why she latched on to them. They will get something out of this from Harry with Oprah and Gayle at the trough.
It will not matter how low of an opinion others have of them.
They will make money like the Obamas and Clintons. Hope Harry will be happy with his loads of cash. Disgraceful and disheartening.
Honor they do not have.
With regard to TP quote, don't forget that most CULTS believe and practice polygamy, as do some religions and tribes in parts of Africa and other far flung corners of the earth. SO maybe a hint to MM's dark and very secret past??
https://www.today.com/news/prince-harry-meghan-markle-visit-stanford-university-t173943
Honor, like a good reputation, is precious beyond gold. I would rather these two than all the money these two charlatans can garner for themselves.
1. With Meghan, it is always all about her.
2. With Meghan, everything is about how it can be used to 'shine a light' on her and brush up her credentials, even if she has to dredge up old stuff.
This is cringeworthy folks ... and her voice is so annoying.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/02/meghan-markle-disaster-british-monarchy-katie-hopkins/
The following paragraph is quite chilling:
'None of us is perfect. But it is Meghan’s off-camera, private actions that set off my own alarm system. I have heard from agents to major stars that Meghan was perpetually stalking their talent in the hope of a moment in the spotlight. A source close to the Palace tells of how, for her first date with Prince Harry, Meghan researched, bought and wore the perfume Princess Diana used to wear. Spiders are cunning creatures and this one spun her web well.'
As far as I know, research is easy to access so there is no need to arrange a special VIP visit to find out about the latest research on whatever.
JP Morgan ... we need lots and lots of money, in fact, a steady stream of many millions annually so let's hang out with the billionaires (of course, it is all for charity).
Stanford ... we need credentials from somewhere important (look at the long list of impressive people working with Kate and William on their projects) ... since we are in California, let's go to Stanford and pick up some academics (of course, it is all for charity).
If there’s any truth in any of these stories, then why hasn’t there been one single photo published in the media or on social media? Has no one seen them at these venues etc? I’m almost certain someone would have seen them either arriving or leaving a venue/hotel, or at an airport etc. It comes across as mostly all talk and hyperbole chatter. 🙄
I know real royals can move in mysterious ways and go unnoticed, but these two I’m not so sure. Meghan is far too camera hungry not to want to be snapped and papped on someone’s phone or otherwise. 😉
If this is true, she appears very immature and more interested in the snapshots of the Instagram world than actual life. If this is to be believed, this nearly 40 year old woman is perfectly happy living in someone else's house while she walks her dogs and has no emotions for her husband who has literally left everything he ever knew.
Most of us would have supreme, profound, staggering feelings of guilt and sadness for walking away from a life of service and stewardship that we had pledged to undertake. She did not even make it 2 years! In the engagement interview she said she could not wait to get to work on behalf of the BRF. At the women's panel last year she claimed to never read anything about herself online. Now she is suing MoS and has walked away from her duty. But she's happier than ever?!"
BRILLIANT COMMENTS!!!
You hit the nail on the head. She did indeed pledge to her future husband and HMTQ less than two years ago to devote herself to a lifetime of service, and she walked away feeling great about going back on her word so quickly.
Your comment is so eloquently put. Thanks for posting!!
Yeah. So what likely will happen in the time to come is that more and more American media will come to the realization that the entire "UK was so mean and racist to the Harkles" cover story was a scam, which is what it was.
Now that the problem children are on the front doorstep, you get to see their behaviors for yourself. Sure, some agenda-driven media (think Gayle King's CBS) and Harkle-paid media story planters will stick with the script, but plenty of self-respecting journalists will not. Therefore, the truth will continue to dribble out. And you'll probably see more commentary like this:
"'Now they're reportedly house-hunting in LA and New York City — exactly where celebrities seeking seclusion go — and have been in talks with Goldman Sachs since at least November, months before announcing their plans to 'step back.''"
In America, we are used to opportunistic and gauche wannabes, as the Harkles are. We're the home of the Kardashians after all. People are used to this kind of grift, particularly in the social media age. And I think most people are tolerant of it (or just ignore it), so long as the wannabe cash-outers kind of know their role and stay in their lane.
There is a ceiling for the Harkles, a ceiling much lower (I'm sure) than what Meg wishes it were. And a ceiling that doesn't involve "breaking the internet" or coming close to that.
A good example of this is the Stanford trip. Notice that zero students leaked out anything about this? If a big-time celebrity showed up on campus, it would be very hard to keep that information under wraps. Harkles go to Stanford? Crickets.
I continue to be thrilled for the senior royals who seem so free of burden and cares now, since the Harkles took off. The photos of Kate in the black skinny jeans at whatever event she was at were awesome. That's a good looking woman, and a disciplined woman. And when you're the monarchs-in-waiting, you can afford to be patient and not put yourselves into the kind of embarrassing, tacky and inappropriate zones that the Harkles keep finding themselves in now. I don't think we'll be seeing Wills hitting up the head of Disney anytime soon seeking voice over work for Kate.
She is also claiming that her guest edit Vogue sold out in 10 days and that it was the biggest selling issue of the decade.
https://twitter.com/torontopaper1/status/1227917901853794304
I did read that both Kate and MM favor the British brand Jo Malone.
Are they suddenly surprised to discover that she is a liar?
@Lt.,
Honor, like a good reputation, is precious beyond gold. I would rather these two than all the money these two charlatans can garner for themselves.
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Honor.
The only value there is.
I don't think I would like Sara Latham actively working against me!
I doubt that Smirkle will ever set foot in the UK again and staff would be pretty naive if they didn't see what was going on right beneath their noses. As I said, I have no respect or sympathy for people whose job it was to try to polish a turd.
I agree with Tatty that I think they will for the most part leak any information.. they are probably under NDAs. .. but who knows.
Damn fingernails are getting long and screwing up autocorrect
Plus, if they were offered a job across the pond, they might not feel like roaming the earth with HAMS. Of course,the DM is screeching about it.
"'They are all close and supporting each other. The team are busy helping to set their Royal Highnesses up for the future and working on a series of final engagements.'
It is understood that this includes the Mountbatten Festival of Music at the Royal Albert Hall on March 7, which will be Harry's last engagement as Captain-General of the Royal Marines. He and Meghan are also expected to attend the Commonwealth Day service on March 9."
Many news outlets reported that they did have further engagements scheduled (but not yet announced) before stepping down in spring.
The harmless have spent the day brainstorming with a team of Stanford academics!
Trespassing
Earthshot Envy!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8001623/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-visit-Stanford-University-brainstorming-sessions.html
I agree.
And about Sara Lathem, maybe she didn't want the Harkle curse.
Great suggestion!
Also, please leave skippy out of her. You're feeding the trolls and sending traffic to her.
Does anyone not think that HM needs to yank their titles and PC needs to yank their funding NOW?
Through no fault of their own, they are now associated with a complete narcissist, grifter, and bolter.
I wonder how much their association with MM will harm them. Hopefully MM wasn't around long enough to do too much damage.
Anyone know other royal favorites? Snacks? Teas? Shoes? Flowers ( other than the done to death forget me nots)
I am partial to David Austin roses, Liberty of London fabrics, Tweed yarns. Wish I could find an elegant subtle rose perfume like Anne Klein's circa 1989 perfume... Making do with Yardley dusting powder.
It must be very difficult to work for them. Harry is a moody man child and Meg is a rude know-it-all. I don’t think many people would put up with that unless they are well compensated.
Yes.
They cannot be trusted.
They clearly have no interest in living or working in the UK anymore, so their Sussex titles (which always were nothing to do with Sussex) are now a problem. People in the UK understand that the titles are just that, but globally most folk will not understand (how many people in the USA, if asked, would say that Harry and Meghan probably have a estate in Sussex, and therefore the assumption they have wealth and influence and standing because of those titles?).
I think Parliament has to revoke those titles, but we need someone in the UK to clarify. Have titles ever being revoked before and for what reason?
I get it that they do not want to take away the HRH in case Harry returns to the fold, but as long as he has it, Meghan has it and she WILL use it, despite the agreement not to (that's what the royal is all about in their branding).
Not only must all public funding stop immediately (including security), but they must pay back the money. If Charles does not stop the funding from the Duchy of Cornwall, he is going to face a revolt in his back yard. Harry and Meghan have nothing for the Duchy and never will do anything.
I just wish Her Maj would find a way to be decisive quickly and stop threatening and tarnishing her reign.
@Tatty, sorry but you are always oppositional. Always opposing what others say & defending MM. If you can’t join in with us in detesting her & her pathetic husband, please go away! I am saying this slightly tongue in cheek, but let us just revel in our loathing of that creature!!
Wow, this sub just devolved. Adios.
Most relationships and marriages with people who have narcissistic personality disorder self-destruct within a relatively short time — 4 to 5 years. But because she has wormed her way into the most high-profile royal family on earth, it is not just your garden-variety marriage to a person with NPD.
It truly is like driving past a wreck on the highway. You know it’s a twisted, ghastly mess, but it is still intriguing enough that you have to look. The outcome for this deformed relationship is far more difficult to predict, but I hope she mistreats him so badly that he eventually bails out. Especially if she cheats on him. I think that’s where Harry would draw the line. At the very least, I hope somewhere an ounce of self-respect will remain to allow him to do it.
But, I think there are 15 of them? Someone will talk to someone and the stories will come out. It is just human nature.
I got this from the Internet:
But what happens when a person breaks an NDA? An NDA is a civil contract, so breaking one isn't usually a crime. ... In practice, when somebody breaks a non-disclosure agreement, they face the threat of being sued and could be required to pay financial damages and related costs.
The Sussexes would sue and they would claim huge damages for damage to their reputations and how that would affect their income-earning abilities. I can just see Harry and Meghan spending the rest of their lives suing someone for something!
I've not caught up with all the comments yet as just getting back to work after the eternal shingles, but this reminded me of a great Victorian short story 'Good Lady Ducayne' by Mary Elizabeth Braddon about an ancient rich old lady who seeks out young healthy girls to be her companions, in addition to her sinister pet doctor.
Two companions fade away and die and then she chooses a happy, engaging girl called Bella who mysteriously starts having unfathomably deep nightmare dreams with a strange whirring going on, unexplained insect bites and an increasing lassitude. She goes from loving long walks to being at death's door, far from home in Italy.
I leave it to you to draw your own conclusions. You can read it for free here:
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0605261h.html#ch03
I love trashy Victorian fiction. Same author wrote 'Lady Audley's Secret'.
BBW, I am absolutely floored what you just posted. Assuming it’s not a joke, and in getting my mouth off the floor, I’m having a very hard time believing more than 2-3 people agree with what you wrote and also believe it.
No disrespect to Nutty, but we aren’t making rocket science here. It’s a blog where people blow off steam. It’s not the FBI or private investigators. No one is changing the course of history here.
Also, I am welcomed here NUMEROUS times by Nutty, and if you don’t like it, take it up with her. I stand here like everyone else with my opinions.
Good night.
So I think we are going to see the tell alls rolling out.I doubt they will launch lawsuits for two reasons: 1) They will need to pay their own legal bills and 2) Depositions will likely mean more damaging things get released and they won't risk it.
I will say things are going to get very interesting in the next couple of weeks.
@tatty said; ""BBW, I am absolutely floored what you just posted. Assuming it’s not a joke, and in getting my mouth off the floor, I’m having a very hard time believing more than 2-3 people agree with what you wrote and also believe it""
I for one agree with you BlueBellWoods! I am glad you stand up and say what needs to be said.
@ tatty. Well, there have been several articles in the last three weeks in the NY post that have been quite negative (admittedly a Murdoch paper), and there was a recent article in the Atlantic (considered a top -tier magazine) that was more measured but basically said, gee, what a couple of hypocrites.
This is only the beginning. Part of the dearth of articles on Ms. Markle is the US is because she was a no one. I’d never heard of her until the announcement of their engagement. People who would be curious about her only had to visit Hulu and see her simulating a bunch of sex scenes, and come to the obvious conclusion that Harry’s choice of wife was a little odd. Also, although Diana was revered in the US, Harry? Not so much. His relatively brief career as a soldier wouldn’t make many waves, he was busted cavorting with prostitutes while indulging in Nazi cosplay while pounding back the champagne, and, finally, he’s not what most American’s consider attractive. Murdoch is opening the flood gates. Can we believe that every one she came in contact with in Hollywood while married to Trevor signed NDAs? I don’t think so. This women’s arrogance is off the charts. People who have worked with her are probably making financial deals as I type to expose her. They are fresh meat to the media. And the laws in the U.S. are much less restrictive than the laws in the U.K. I could name on my hands and toes actors who arrogance sank or nearly sank their careers. Royalty in the UK might get away with that behavior (I understand Andrew is a real tool), but in the US it’s not appreciated (as I’m sure you know as I assume you are an American).
I believe that is a blog called lipstick alley
If I have it right, it has a lot of sugars but threads with opposing views are common
I agree with you, journalists. palace staff & MM staff do read anti M sites like this, & DM comments.
These sites offer incisive, articulate, well researched pieces, along with juicy tidbits. Plenty of scope for journos to follow up.
It’s a win win situation for us.
That was for our Lighthealer Astrid (who is always picture in a glowing dress and carrying a wand)
In addition to their current banking schmoozing I keep visualising them in a mansion in LA, yet all around them is a parallel city of the homeless left over from the previous financial crisis. Maybe Harry could build on his hypocrisy by lecturing them about the dangers of drug addiction as well ...
I think the Peter/Autumn Phillips thing has hit the news through no fault of theirs. Yes the timing is terrible for the Queen, but I expect Meghan's secret second-hand rumour mill precipitated this. Wouldn't be the first time. Without that, they would have continued to keep it under the radar for months, as they had already.
I'm with you. Guess we're the "2-3 people".....
Your posts are inspiring.
I get frustrated that these two yahoo's are getting away with things that should be obvious to the RF. And should be stopped.
I am glad to think that we can effect change. We are not just voices in the wilderness.
We stand for something.
Thank you.
Give it time. Remember, many of the USA media accepted the false "UK is racist to victim Harkles" narrative. But seeing the tacky grifting for oneself, up close, tends to erode such filters.
Don't get me wrong. As I've said many times here, for a large portion of the USA media Meg is simply a political pawn in their agenda, to be used for arguments on other issues. There ARE plenty of USA media who will continue to portray the Harkles as victims. No doubt about that. And there are the friendly media (People, etc) who accept the Team Harkle pushed stories.
There are plenty of cynical people in the media who will continue to insist that the emperors have clothes when they do not. But more honest journalists, people who value their reputations, can't maintain such a facade as the grifting becomes more obvious and base. I'm thinking of someone in particular here, a harbinger. Maureen Dowd of the the New York Times:
https://twitter.com/maureendowd/status/1216123855246446599?lang=en
Expect this drumbeat to slowly but steadily increase. It's inevitable, given that the Harkles have misrepresented their desires (we want peace and solitude; but we'd like to move to NYC and LA, etc) and motives.
It's been said before, but I'll repeat it -- if you are a non-sugar (as I am), it might just be best to ignore the apparent sugars. For them, up seems to be down, the news is great for the Harkles even when it's not, the world is at the feet of the Harkles, and so forth.
Nutty has not made this a pure anti-sugars site. Sugars are allowed to be here. There is no requirement that one dislike the Harkles to post here. But if you are an anti-sugar, you don't have to engage with the sugars, either. And, trust me, the sugars are not convincing anyone. If I look outside and see the sky is blue, I'm not going to change my view because someone told me that the sky is yellow.
The Harkles are massively unliked. All one has to do is look at a Daily Mail comments section. And plenty of those comments are from the USA. A sugar or group of sugars is not going to alter that mindset.
Here is a recent article about the depth of the antipathy towards the Harkles:
https://www.ccn.com/meghan-markle-has-an-army-of-internet-haters-but-theyre-no-racists/
As the author says, Harkles fans can be "a little misguided". Many of them seem to buy the hype, so to speak. And if you have any group of people, there will always be a segment of them, some percentage, who are more susceptible to propaganda than others.
Such persons should perhaps be more pitied than reviled. Additionally, feeding sugars only makes them stronger, I think. So if you really don't agree with them or their opinions, then you may wish to 'starve the beast' as the saying goes.
Wanted to apologize to a bunch of people who responded to comments I made regarding woke capitalism in a recent thread. Something came up on my end which kept me away from the site for a number of days. There were some great remarks made by people such as Hunter, people who worked in the banking industry, who know how ridiculous the concept is that these corporations actually care about anything but their own bottom line and viability. I'm sorry that I did not have the chance to respond to more people who "@" me at the time. Thanks to all for the great comments on the subject.
The Hermes came out in 95, so she didn't wear it very long. Pretty sure she stepped up from Penhaligon's once she married Charles, but no one really knows for sure. I bet she tried many different ones.
The Queen favors Caron's Muguet du Bonheur. (Or at least wore it for decades)
It seems clear that the attack on the LSA thread was deliberately pulled off by sugars. I'm guessing paid professional trolls (people paid to try to alter or redirect online conversation). Could have even been the Sunshine gang or whatever knockoff PR agency the Harkles are now using.
The good thing is that the moderators of the site seemed to act quickly and repel the attack. And the people in the thread (commenters) seemed to rapidly figure out what was being attempted.
Public relations (including trying to shut down a popular anti-sugar thread like the LSA one) work best when people are unaware that they are being manipulated. The more people realize they are being manipulated (as both the LSA moderators and commenters understood in the attack on the site), the easier it is to not internalize the propaganda message. And the easier it is to recognize and fend off future, similar attacks.
For an entity as disliked as the Harkles are, having paid trolls (or bots, or whatever you want to call them) is essential. There is a large public consensus against the Harkles, and so you need your minions to try to break up that consensus and try to flip it around.
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-2902
The original posters on this thread (almost 3000 pages on Part 2) hit back hard against trolls. And yes, the posters on the thread are mostly black women. They do not like Meghan and see her for what she is: a grifter and a fraud. It is mostly intelligent discussion, so when it strays off course the original posters slap down the trolls hard and get things back on track. As they say, there are a lot of other threads for those who are Meghan fans, so stay out of our space!
1. Harry does not have enough money at present to buy a mansion in LA and maintain it.
2. Although they are hustling to get millions for their foundation (i.e. to pay for their lifestyle), it is not a sustainable way to make money. Either they have t raise enough very quickly to put in a safe investment to sustain them for the rest of their lives, or they have to actually produce something that supplies a constant source of money because relying on donations is too risky. Neither of them are talented, skilled or experienced enough to do so, no matter what fantasies they may have.
3. Meghan has never owned a home and so has never had to deal with taxes, maintenance, staff, utilities, insurance and all that goes with ownership. Harry has always lived in Crown properties where all that is taken care of for him.
Does Meghan really want ownership of a mansion in Los Angeles or does she want to continue squatting?
Don't get me wrong. As I've said many times here, for a large portion of the USA media Meg is simply a political pawn in their agenda, to be used for arguments on other issues.
Agree with this sentiment.
Also agree that Nutty allows a variety of opinions on Meghan. I don't see Tatty as a sugar, she's just more restrained when discussing the H&M.
To my way of thinking...if I were a REAL man with integrity and high morals and standards and beliefs that is how I would have handled it.
P.s. I forgot to mention....EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY!
Show me the video on YouTube. Show me a bunch of selfies on social media with bankers and bozo. Show me current social media candid shots proving "where in the world are bozo and bimbo" . Put a red striped hat on Archie and/or the realdoll while you are at it.
Stanford? Did the Dumbertons get it confused with the scandal ridden USC? Is the next firmer Mr. Markle giving a speech at Stanford? No pictures? Did they get Archie a t shirt?
What is next, visiting Epstein's former friend at Harvard?
Imaginary "friends" blabbling to sketchy tabloids is not enough. Press releases of events that may or may not have taken place aren't enough.
If the Dumbertons Duo were doing anything of note, there should be current videos for the Sussex No Longer Royal Instagram.
I completely agree with you. Also, if we are just an echo chamber we reduce any claim we have to be a worthwhile site for valid criticism. Although it's a very difficult balance and if I see a particular name come up in a little spate of posts I sometimes take a break, rather than increase my blood pressure. Meghan's already doing enough of that on her own! Either that or I scroll past.
The latter is the best option obviously, for the health and continuance of the blog. We need to manage this well, and by consensus, because we can't expect Nutty to monitor this constantly. Unlike Harry, she has no choice as to whether to earn a living.
Real men don't play house and dolls with prostitutes. ( They may play other games in private, but don't bring a ho to tea with Grandma)
Prince Harry is a spoiled little boy in a rapidly aging man's body. He doesn't need to discuss " mental health initiatives " he needs a psych eval and treatment plan! He needs to shut up and get his act together OFF CAMERA to have any hope of a future.
"... 3. Meghan has never owned a home and so has never had to deal with taxes, maintenance, staff, utilities, insurance and all that goes with ownership. Harry has always lived in Crown properties where all that is taken care of for him."
House or Squatting?
I think she tilts toward the house with everything it represents. She's walked away from the whole BRF lifestyle but I don't think she's given up the idea of how it feels to live that life in a house (where a penthouse condo won't do.
So, I think she likes the idea of a big house lifestyle but has absolutely no concept of how much money it takes to get into such a house and then, to keep it running. And that is a whole lifestyle where it isn't just a maid but 2 maids, the gardner, housekeeper, the right club or clubs to join, pool, filling the house with all the right furnishing so they could get a spread in AD and ... what kind of cars to get? And, after being with H, where life is a series of high end (high maintenance but not with central heat) lifestyle homes, anything less than that would be a blow to the ego (of having to downsize).
(sidenote: I don't think she read the Millionaire Next Door books).
I agree with you completely, she starts a ruckus and slithers off!!!
She delights in being obstinate. This a great blog when she is not here trying to annoy most of us.
I think she has severe psychological issues, in addition to “autism”.
goodnight BBW and Mimi
Leaks could very well happen if any of the released staff are officially sacked. Sources to the media are often present employees or past ones, who still know people who work for the royals. 🤗
Many previous employees of the royals have spoken out or written books, so NDA’s very unlikely. I’m not sure if NDA’s are so widely used here in the UK (compared to America), particularly by the royal household. 🤔
Private individuals who employee staff ‘might’ have their staff sign one when they take up employment with them. 😉
“If I have to lie, steal, cheat, or kill, as God is my witness I’ll never be hungry again”
Could have been written for Megs 😉
Vince said - Nutty has not made this a pure anti-sugars site. Sugars are allowed to be here. There is no requirement that one dislike the Harkles to post here. But if you are an anti-sugar, you don't have to engage with the sugars, either. And, trust me, the sugars are not convincing anyone. If I look outside and see the sky is blue, I'm not going to change my view because someone told me that the sky is yellow.’
Ava C replied, ‘I completely agree with you. Also, if we are just an echo chamber we reduce any claim we have to be a worthwhile site for valid criticism. Although it's a very difficult balance and if I see a particular name come up in a little spate of posts I sometimes take a break, rather than increase my blood pressure. Meghan's already doing enough of that on her own! Either that or I scroll past.
The latter is the best option obviously, for the health and continuance of the blog. We need to manage this well, and by consensus, because we can't expect Nutty to monitor this constantly. Unlike Harry, she has no choice as to whether to earn a living.’
Agree with the both of you. 🤗
Just two pictures of the Harkels have been published. MM hiking and Harry disembarking a plane. None of the Harkles together. Nothing verifiable just sketchy reports of people running into them at places like the hardware store.
The media is running endless, conflicting stories about the Harkles using old photos. Nothing is ever verified. JP Morgan declined to comment, the BRF palace spokesperson declined to comment. Whether one supports the Harkels or not, it must be admitted that something is very off here.
Totally agree, 🤗 I wrote something similar further up the thread. We’ve had no tangible evidence that any of these stories have a grain of truth to them. It’s anyone’s guess as to what’s really going on. 😉
The media is running endless, conflicting stories about the Harkles using old photos. Nothing is ever verified. JP Morgan declined to comment, the BRF palace spokesperson declined to comment. Whether one supports the Harkels or not, it must be admitted that something is very off here.
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Indeed.
Based on the ‘profound case of NPD’, malignant narcissism diagnoses we arm-chair psychiatrists have laid on her (accurately, i believe), there is no way she would or could have accepted that ‘second place’ slot for a day, let alone a lifetime. There was never another reason NEEDED* for her to abandon her place as a senior royal.
*But there were other reasons, of course, greed being the major one.