Not much appears to be going on. Living Legends came and went without fanfare ... what's the next event? Super Bowl - Sunday February 11th? Oscar's - March 10th? In the mean time, some things are still rolling along in various starts and stops like Samantha's law suit. Or tax season is about to begin in the US. The IRS just never goes away. Nor do bills (utility, cable, mortgage, food, cars, security, landscape people, cleaning people, koi person and so on). There's always another one. Elsewhere others just continue to glide forward without a real hint of being disrupted by some news out of California. That would be the new King and Queen or the Prince/Princess of Wales. Yes there are health risks which seemed to come out of nowhere. But. The difference is that these people are calmly living their lives with minimal drama.
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For Meghan, the chance to have her Hollywood debut as a A-lister is as tempting as waving high-grade heroin in front of a junkie and telling the not to grab it.
If there’s any way she can get there, she’ll be there to inhale the worldwide attention and claim what she probably believes is her rightful place in Hollywood.
Yes, she’s been in show business for a number if years as a mediocre actress on the lower rungs, and never would have attended the Oscars before this unless it was as on the arm of a man as a date. It’s ironic if Meghan goes to the ceremony or Elton’s soiree, it will be the same situation because the access the faux feminist has to this echelon of show business and society in general is still due to a man she has attached herself to.
All proceeds to the “Save Harry” fund.
Also remember that Trevor and other people who have worked with her or know her have had at least 2.5 years to quietly let people in that business know what she’s like.
On the other hand, the Oscars are suffering from low ratings over the last few years, so they may welcome her and Harry just to boost ratings. It would spread like a wildfire on social media if they appear, and cause some people to tune in to the show.
If they go, maybe she’ll ‘recycle’ that cream fright she wore for the Moroccan tour visit! 😁🙄 It would be a total farce and spectacle if they appeared though. 😂
They might just attend an after party....😉
I’m recording the Oscars, I only ever manage to stay up to see the first 30 or so mins before I need to go to sleep. 🥴
Elton's party is the only invitation I could foresee coming - after all, this is Diana's son and his wife.....
I don't think that a lot of the stars, especially the nominees and winners would appreciate this non contributor to the industry and her has been prince showing up to steal and upstage their big moments.
The artists have worked very hard to make it this far in their careers, so if I was in their shoes, I'd resent this pair of free loader poacher moochers showing up to take over my red carpet moment.
Imagine having an after party and being stuck stuck stuck putting up with all of the stupid private security guys? Ish. And meanwhile, what about the extra security detail needed to watch over baby Archie while mommy and daddy are out begging for cash and hand outs. I reckon that would make the security bill double having to be at two places.
>Is it possible Megs attended the Oscars when she was married to Trevor since he's a producer?
I don't think that a lot of the stars, especially the nominees and winners would appreciate this non contributor to the industry and her has been prince showing up to steal and upstage their big moments.
The artists have worked very hard to make it this far in their careers, so if I was in their shoes, I'd resent this pair of free loader poacher moochers showing up to take over my red carpet moment.<
Brilliantly put.
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-2852#post-54656755
Seems that Harry and Meghan did not know each other well when they rushed into marriage; William had only met her once before the engagement; William only found out about the engagement a couple of hours before the announcement and press appearance.
This whole marriage to MM sounds like a belated teenage rebellion from Harry.
MM comes across as a ruthless user of people, and was someone who was never going to fit in. Harry is the ultimate in terms of a husband she can control and dominate and manipulate and use.
Harry must have deeply hurt his family and they must be very worried about him.
Oscars: She wants to be there walking that red carpet with her trophy husband but they did not get an invite (contrary to the rumours she put out there). The other reason they would turn up to an after party is to make lucrative deals. Would the people at Elton John's after party be rich enough and powerful enough to be useful to MM?
I must admit that I will be disappointed if they do not show up. I want to see her in a very expensive and ill-fitting dress, hair hanging all over her face and wearing too much bronzer, wearing borrowed flashy jewellery, and hanging onto Harry (trying to keep him away from the bar) ... it is great entertainment and Hollywood is about entertainment!
Sorry if I’ve offended you but I wasn’t being racist. I was making a joke re Megs wigs & Harrys hair implants.
https://anonymoushouseplantfan.tumblr.com/post/190740883636/submitted-by-hunnymae-thanks
Interesting that MM convinced Harry and his friends that her mother has no extended family. really? Both her parents have siblings, and she was certainly close to her mother's family before she moved in with her father.
Waiting. Just waiting to see what happens next.
Cheers for that, much appreciated.
If so, I think she will wear a very expensive gown--Givenchy with Fred Leighton or Neil Lane borrowed jewelry? I do not think she would "recycle" a gown.
I wonder if Harry would like to be at the Oscars? He did his best to network at The Lion King premiere.
Agree with all the comments that "the feminist" could only get there on the arm of a man, rather than on her own hard work and merit.
Y'all know that whenever I have the misfortune to view Jennifer Lopez or Shakira in the future, I'm going to think of dogs with itchy butts.
Not going to be worried about the Harry and Meghan show at the Oscars. Y'all can keep me apprised of the horrible (or not) details.
I would assume that security at the Oscars would be so tight that CRASHING the event is unlikely. However, would they turn MM and Prince Harry away?
The itchy dog butts comments are sad and funny at the same time.
SAD - The halftime show is so inappropriate for children.
FUNNY - Their "sultry" dancing is equated to "itchy dog butts." The precious innocence of children.
If it didn't, that may suggest that the Harkles are still in the USA and may attend a party.(or two)
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@Magatha Mistie - nothing you said was remotely racist and it's ridiculous to suggest it was!
It must be by invitation only.
If invited, I think the Harkles would attend--to be seen!--to be relevant!--to network!
No, talking about hair weaves or styles or braids or whatever is not racist.
Re; Lindy and tatty .... I suppose I would be accused of racism, by those two, when I wore a wig while undergoing chemo.
However, none of mine were raggedy yak hair.🦹🏼♀️
I think this is very sad. No healthy relationship forces you to renounce your accomplishments and things you are proud of, in addition to splitting you off from your family. And for WHAT? It appears to be for MONEY. Certainly they could have worked less if that was the real issue. Or have given more speeches if that's what they were passionate about.
So he is stripped of his uniform, the brotherhood, memories, and loyalty he felt with his fellow soldiers, to stand up at ritzy dinners and ramble in front of a bunch of faces he doesn't know. How hollow that must feel.
Yeah right.
A) MM floating her stories again; get this story out there and then the RF looks mean if they don't invite the Harkles
B) The palace did invite them, as previous posters said to demonstrate that they are trying to give them every chance
C) The palace invites them, forcing the Harkle's hand about Archie. Where IS he? Did he fly to Miami?
Plus to establish that if you want the Dumped Dumbartons to come to your paid event, you must provide the kind of transportation they are accustomed to.
I think they will not make an appearance at either event. Definitely not The Oscars. She had to cover not getting an invitation by saying "oh, we decided not to" and all that. I think she was still hoping for an invite, though, and put (PR) articles out to float getting one, like she has done before with Royal Family stuff, such as her birthday with the Queen, Doria coming for Christmas, etc etc. It's her MO. She's been doing it for years.
And the Harry weave comment wasn't racist at all.
Re: Where is Archie?
The stories I read about RPOs buying supplies said they did not buy any baby items or diapers. Very telling.
Although there is always Amazon, I suppose.
When he was little his Siti used to dress both boys in ME garb for fun. Like us putting on our kilts from Scotland. It's cute and fun.
Thank you for posting the two articles. I agree with you, the article about Harry's departure from the Royal Marines is sad, especially considering the honor being passed from PP to him. Princess Anne will be a great and inspiring leader.
A short film about a young black girl and natural hair won best short. Haven't watched it yet. Thought of MM and her unnatural hair. Pictures of Meg as a child looked so happy. What happened to turn that smiling child into the creature she is today?
I have so much respect for P Anne stepping up.
How must Harry feel about all of Her Majesty's graciousness towards him and his wife?
Yes, I was referring to recent DM article about Harry & his weave/transplants.
Bluebell I love Foyles War especially as each episode is based on true stories.
Hold on for the after-party photos.
I'm guessing: Poison = Harkles
You crack me up with your humor! Thank you!
They are poison.
Hahaha! One of my favourites is “ Elise” about the female spies dropped in France & the rat who betrayed them, very sad.
Anthony Horowitz who wrote Foyle writes children’s books, my son loved his “ Alex Rider” series, he’s also written follow on Sherlock Holmes books, well worth a read. Very talented guy, he’s written for Midsomer murders & Poirot too.
Enjoy your re runs, love to Sam, hope she gets fed 😉
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Way off topic, but I just found this. Is/Was MM trading on the Forex Market? No dates are given.
Parasite won Best Picture.
I have not seen it. But the movie won at least 3 Oscars. The premise of the movie sounds great.
Laura Dern won Best Supporting Actress for Marriage Story. Her performance was wonderful! She deserved to win.
Not quite On Topic but...
Have just spotted this headline on Yahoo news but haven't, on principle, clicked:
StyleHello!
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry to return to UK with baby Archie at request of the Queen - details
Do you think it'll happen?
I can't speak for the after-parties. They seem to be a kind of land-based yachting opportunity.
Also--flinging unwarranted accusations of racism is what got us where we are today with this situation. Could we just not do it here?
I don't dismiss either of the true as mere propaganda or complete absolute truth. But. I do feel they are as close to an accurate version of the truth as the general public will get. Is this one of those things where after a few months we will all be saying, 'damn it, this info was right there in front of us and they told us all along no wonder this happened!" Can't quite figure it out yet, but something feels off. 🤔
All the Garden Party stuff - Anne spotting MM with her back to HM while making eyes at Charles. Anne did smart left wheel and altered the dynamics, for example. High level shots- from a security camera?
Or the goings-on at the PoW Investiture Anniversary exhibition that the Harkles gatecrashed. That must have been `secret' filming from something like a buttonhole camera, to judge from the eyelevel of the images. Secret yes, but secret from whom?
Were these leaks unauthorised or authorised?
I have never seen Meghan being able to match that glamorous styled to perfection look (even if you hate the dress, the women are glamorous and styled way beyond rationality and reason).
An excess of diamonds and pearls were the theme this year. Meghan may consider herself royalty, but she does not have that kind of jewellery (and it is just tacky for royalty to borrow jewellery, as she did on tour). Americans probably remember Diane and her fabulous jewellery and dresses and ultra glamorous looks. Meghan is just not at that level (at least Kate is always impeccably groomed, speaks with a very toff accent, and has uber upper-class manners).
What the heck would Meghan and Harry talk about at an after party (and who would they talk to)? Despite all her PR, the reality is that Meghan is not connected in Hollywood, she has no projects there, and her and Harry's favourite conversation pieces are just not of interest to the Hollywood crowd. (Hey, Harry Joaquin Phoenix saw his brother die in front of him from an overdose when he was 19, and he went on to build a top-class acting career!)
I could see Harry partnering with someone like Joaquin Phoenix on some environmental project, but otherwise the Sussexes are just not in the right frame of mind to connect and fit in with the Hollywood crowd.
I think Harry and Meghan are an odd couple and will find it difficult to find a crowd and neighbourhood where they fit. Harry is a fish out of water in Meghan's ideal world and Meghan does not fit in any way into Harry's world.
All the Garden Party stuff - Anne spotting MM with her back to HM while making eyes at Charles. Anne did smart left wheel and altered the dynamics, for example. High level shots- from a security camera?
Or the goings-on at the PoW Investiture Anniversary exhibition that the Harkles gatecrashed. That must have been `secret' filming from something like a buttonhole camera, to judge from the eyelevel of the images. Secret yes, but secret from whom?
Were these leaks unauthorised or authorised?'
Nope, all that footage was shot by authorised media, who are there by invitation (in the complex rota system) and have plenty of time and all the information (from briefing) to find the right spot and angle. It is ironic that Meghan, who has voraciously sought the cameras and attention her whole life, lacks the professionalism to ignore the cameras but be 100% aware that they are there (and also follow protocol). I am not going to condemn her for being an amateur and making mistakes (the royal family have shown over the years that one can overcome such mistakes), but I do take exception to her and Harry playing the blame game and feeding the whine fest when they failed and ran away.
What secret video tapes are we talking about? I know the investiture was an odd spectacle and I'm also.pretty sure that the couple must have taken offense to the fact that were not included in the viewing of the exhibits. Is there a secret video tape though? The one that we saw was pretty obvious and was part of the official recording of the walk into the official banquet.
Include her Hollywood celeb studded wedding in the above. All thanks to Checkbook Charles who was her advocate, to bring her into the BRF. To bring in a new diversity and wokeness. Reason is that Charles has a dated kind of wokeness himself. Charles received her charm blasts, same as Harry. Father and son fell for her con.
And my son also adored the Alex Rider and Power of Five series by Anthony Horowitz. He is a very talented writer for young people.
Nor am I talking about the sort of the thing the Press would normally produce ie shots where the camera lens is more or less at the head level of those being photographed.
I'm trying to recall who put these clips/videos out there - Yankee Wally? Murky Meg? Harry Markle? Someone Else?
The question is, how did they get from the Palace to the critics of MM?
The Garden Party shots (was it Charles's Birthday bash?) looked as if they had been taken from a high viewpoint - a normal 1st floor window or wall-mounted security camera. They were annotated.
For example, 1st few frames showed Anne approaching from the right, midfield. Her attention has clearly been caught by MM, foreground, whose back is to the Queen. MM is in a tight little group around Charles. Is she making goo-goo eyes at her Pa-in-law? Handwritten caption, suggesting Anne's thoughts, words to the effect `What's going on here,then?'
Anne swings to her left and deftly places herself so she opens up MM's coterie, enabling the dance of royal protocol to continue...
The Investiture commemorative exhibition: The camera level was very low, about waist height, I'd say. It didn't move as if it was hand-held. The sound quality also, to me, suggested something surreptitious. It strongly reminded me of evidence gathered by investigative journalism, a real no-no in this context.
In neither case, did MM seem to be aware of the camera.
Of course, none of this is available now - I've just been watching these blighters for a very long time.
By garden party, perhaps you refer to Ascot 2018, MMs first. She was wearing a white shirt dress, asymmetrical with the weird pirate like hat? She is constantly giggling and doubling over. That one?
There are lots of videos from that one. There's also one where she is talking to Charles, with her back to the queen. Sort of ignoring the queen who is look at her. Harry engages someone in a conversation while facing the queen and sort of shuffles across sideways without turning his back to me queen. Shows that everyone around the queen does forllow the protocol of not turning their backs to the queen.
That was also the time Anne had been caught giving her a sort of side eye, while in the Queen's company/visinity. I'm hazy about the details because u saw those a while back. That's ascot iutinv is also where MM seems to trying too hard hamming it up for the cameras with her gigglyschoolgirl act and pretty much everyone else is IG orung her antics. She might have taken an offense to that, thinking everyone was mean and unwelcoming towards her.
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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/feb/16/the-nine-best-oscars-ceremony-outfits-fashion
She looks as if she just got the dress out of her wardrobe, put it on and went out. No army of stylists. So different to today.
I've always loved that particular photo, when she'd just got back from the ceremony, to a quiet house, and put her Oscar above the fireplace. Looks like a moment she would remember forever.
You have just nailed another thing that works against Markle. The overall trend has been for quite a while to take pride in your own heritage, to celebrate your roots and traditions including race. Does Markle fall into this trend?
I would say no. Until very recently she had been relying on her white heritage, so she did things like skin bleaching, nose jobs, hair straightening etc. Now she is desperately trying to promote her African half but true women of color are not deceived. Thanks to the internet many people have access to her before and after pics, her "Caucasian" CV reference etc.
So Markle is hanging in between. The PC crows is applauding her as a "woman of color" but there are a lot more deserving true "women of color" than Markle. So many people are saying what the heck? Lets celebrate those who really deserve the praise and really represent their racial and cultural background.
The feeling from the actual Marines is that Harry didn't deserve being their commander. There is a green cap that the Marines wear, given to them after they EARN it going through a very difficult and challenging physical course, which Harry didn't do. The Marines were highly insulted that Harry wore this cap without going through the effort to earn it.
Yes, this is one man speaking on behalf of many, but as an Army brat and being around military types a lot of my life, I can believe the sentiment.
The commentor also said how ridiculous all the Princes look with their "made up medals" given to them by their mother/grandmother, HMTQ. I think William and Harry are careful only to wear medals they earned while on active duty, but I could be wrong. Prince Edward got a right bashing from this commentor.
Anyway, while Princess Anne isn't going to be challenging herself with this course either, his feeling was that she has at least walked the walk for decades now and that they'd be happier to have her than Harry, as she lives and breathes "duty".
Harry? Not so much.
I think Harry and Meghan are an odd couple and will find it difficult to find a crowd and neighbourhood where they fit. Harry is a fish out of water in Meghan's ideal world and Meghan does not fit in any way into Harry's world.
Agree with your statement and think this sums up the situation.
Would anyone be surprised if they went back to the Royal Family as a safe haven?
Was at a grandchild's birthday party today. Daughter was complaining to me about not watching the superbowl next year because she said it was frankly embarrassing to be watching with the children. Five-year-old granddaughter said that they looked like dogs with itchy butts. "Do you think that they had itchy butts and that is why they danced like that?"
Y'all know that whenever I have the misfortune to view Jennifer Lopez or Shakira in the future, I'm going to think of dogs with itchy butts.
Oh my goodness, I can't stop laughing. I had a mental image of Shakira and JLo doing this across the stage LOL
https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggy-puppy-labrador-butt-scoot-gif-5639275
"Dogs with itchy butts"???
Lololololol!
I too, will see that forever!
I dont see it either
I'm pretty sure it was a Garden Party but the film had the presumed Thoughts Of Anne written across it, with directional arrows to show how which way her gaze was going. Her words were almost the classic `'Ello! 'Ello! 'Ello! What's goin' on'ere then?' of the London copper.
When I first saw this material, I concentrated on the content. It’s only now that I’ve asked myself `how did this get out?'
I wish I could still find it – it may be there but I haven’t time to look. It’d be good if someone could find it or remember it.
Yes, there is a TV cameraman, who shadows the Queen:
Peter Wilkinson: The Queen's cameraman - Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/...
Also www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3356162/The..
Yes, there is a selected press pack that covers these events.
Did this footage look like `normal’ press footage? No, because:
Neither appeared to be taken with a camera held at shoulder level/head height as is `usual’ – the one came from too high a level, the other too low.
High level – was it from a security camera?
Low level (waist height?) intimate distance, looking/sounding like surveillance recording from investigative journalism programmes.
Also, as I recall, there was no Press attribution on either of the examples I’m talking about.
I think there may be a misunderstanding about the extent to which photographers are allowed the run of the place in advance.
The only instance I’ve heard of prior access to set up shots, lighting and so on is when a special commission has been given to a single photographer, such as Annie Liebowitz, to take an Official Portrait in what amounts to a studio setting.
That's why I suspect they were leaked but of course I may be wrong.
Oh dear, I’ll be thinking anal glands or worms...
It almost seemed like the Harkles we're confused by the whole arrangement. Like they did not know they were not to do the exhibit. Or that they were supposed to walk meekly behind Kate but decided they weren't interested and instead said, to Charles while he was entering - Oh no you guys go in we will just stand here we've seen in before.
It was all so odd! Wouldn't they have been told in advance what the plan was? Even if it was just 10mins in advance, 5 mins even, how hard or confusing could it have been? And if they were confused why would they try to clarify in the room while the exhibit walk was in and being filmed??
Is this one of the times where they feel they we're slighted by the stuffy hierarchical system and their star power wasn't used??
The only other garden party they attended together was Charles bday party right atfter their wedding. She wore that hideous pink dress. Anne wasn't present for that one. Anne, the queen and infact the whole family was there for Ascot. It looked like a gaden party. She wore a white dress. That's when Anne talked yesterday language with Charles and Cam, possibly about MM and her lack of protocol I'm from of the queen.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51442662
My takeaways, Antonio Banderas, Brad Pitt & Keanu Reeves, whatever their politics or sexual orientation, are still drop dead gorgeous middle aged men.
It was also nice to see so many beautiful actresses in their late thirties, forties, fifties & older, looking gorgeous, poised, & regal. Megs should take note. I know they have stylists, hairdressers, & makeup artists, but they have to provide the posture & graceful movement themselves. Any actress worth her salt should be able to hold it together for the few minutes it takes to walk up the red carpet. The NYTimes did a gallery, very few outrageous outfits shown in their collection of pics.
Laura Dern, Geena Davis, Sigourney Weaver, Regina King, Penelope Cruz, Renee Zellweger, Natalie Portman & many others showed us how it's done.
https://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2020/02/09/style/oscars-red-carpet-2020/s/carpet-2020-6611.html
TV people do sometimes turn up at the Oscars, as Katie Couric & Tracee Ellis Ross are in the NYTimes photos. Don't know if they were snapped at an after party or at the Oscars themselves.
Thank heaven I missed Joaquin Phoenix's insane attack on dairy farmers. Reading about it makes me wonder if we're watching the final throes of Hollywood hyper liberalism. Back in the day Bob Hope used do fairly rightwing America first monologues, which became unfashionable during the Vietnam War. We could be seeing a watershed moment, or not.
Didn't think the Harkles would be there. They had no place there. It would have been interesting to see how supposedly camera-shy Harry would have reacted to one of the most photographed events imaginable. Does Megs have any idea how much she would have been eclipsed by the other luminaries there? Somehow I doubt it.
@Bluebell & others, I love Foyle's War too, partly for it's moral decency, as well as the attention to detail, & fine acting & writing.
I have always thought that H&M gatecrashed the Investiture. Like they were not supposed to be at the doorway at all. I would totally believe they were supposed to already be sitting down, but MM thought perhaps let's just meet them at the door and walk in all together.
If past stories are true, MM has a history of sitting in areas she was not invited. Allegedly she was going through Harry's car at a polo match. Her bad manners are evident to all.
The rumors that they were invited to present and declined were beyond silly. The Oscars are an industry party and planned months in advance...way before last month when Ginge and Cringe quit their day jobs. Rach is delusional that she will ever earn a seat at that table. But for the second year running she got buzz around herself for once again doing absolutely nothing.
@Alice
It is my understanding that the Harkles gatecrashed Charles’ investiture anniversary. The reason there was confusion is because they were not supposed to be there. She had another overpriced evening dress to merch plus needed to do more belly clutching. In a supreme irony, she even wore hosiery to an event she wasn’t supposed to be at. If you watch the highly entertaining video of the duo being hustled out of the room by two courtiers, it will make you smile.
There may have been a tea for family after to which they were included, but the exhibits portion was for the monarch and her direct heirs. It was a chance for William to see what is coming in his future. Anne was in the room, Presumably because she attended the original ceremony, but we did not see her muscling up to the exhibit. Andrew and Edward and their families were not included, because they were children at the time and did not attend the original ceremony. Shame on Harry who would have known that he did not belong there over his uncles. Unfazed, MM tries to snare Charles with the Claw as he’s entering the room for his big moment. So thirsty for pictures of Herself with the heir to prove she’s his favorite daughter in law. Kate has known Charles since she was at university. Is there a single photo of her clutching at her FIL?
Charles was ostensibly the guest of honor at the remembrance of his own investiture, but he deferred to the queen along with everyone else...Smirkle wanted to horn in at the adults’ table so bad,, but she would have only turned her back on the Queen again if she’d been allowed up there. They weren’t permitted in the room.
Rachel could’ve recycled that look had she attended the Oscars last night because it would’ve been more appropriate for an afternoon event for immediate family to which she was not even invited
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My oh my NYP has just wiped the floor with them.
Yes it did indeed seem very obvious that the weren't invited but deliberately created this confusion and embarrassment. Why Harry would not the protocol or would want to ignore express instructions is beyond me.
Ah, I see the problem. The Royal Family Channel has a film on You Tube:
`Royal family marks 50 years since Investiture of Prince of Wales'–
the big do with guests, including Simon Weston, Welsh Guardsman , survivor of the attack on the Sir Galahad in 1982 and Theresa May. They go into the hall for a concert
That was for the 50th anniversary of Charles’s Investiture in Caernarvon. This would have been in July 2019, when MM was supposedly post–partum.
What I saw was a sneaky-looking film of the Private View for HM, the current and future Princes of Wales, and their spouses, plus the Sussexes who appear to have invited themselves. No guests, only family and staff. Some awkwardness about going through doors, I recall.
I honestly couldn't say which event the other one is that I'm thinking of Garden Party or Ascot?- the give-away is the added caption, written over the image.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBsHHpfR62M
1. The events are not in sequence in the video.
2. The viewing of the regalia on the table starts just before the 2-minute mark.
One thing I noticed at the beginning of the video is that Meghan finds it very difficult to do small talk, unless she is talking about herself or pontificating on her views. I have noticed it at other occasions as well: she does the required greeting (and makes an effort to be charming, although, with time, there was less of that) but quickly switches off, ignores the person in front of her and waits for Harry to finish talking so they can move on (later, she would take to interrupting Harry and pulling him away). Notice that in talking to guests, Harry, William and Kate are all engaged. Meghan just could not do it. It was actually quite obvious from early on that she was hopeless at every aspect of the job of being a full-time royal. Why then did she grab at the opportunity with such over-the-top glee?
It is my understanding that the Harkles gatecrashed Charles’ investiture 50th anniversary. The reason there was confusion is because they were not supposed to be there. She had another overpriced evening dress to merch plus needed to do more belly clutching.
Here it is, video from Celt News and precisely captioned. Charles says twice to Dumbartons, "Stand back". But they proceed into the room anyway. Some laughs here. First two minutes are the best.
PRINCE CHARLES SAYS "STAND BACK' & WILLIAM TELLS SUSSEX'S "SENIOR MEMBERS ONLY!'
248,010 views•Jan 5, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okPIf_A2kwQ
Nope, this did not happen!
Jane Fonda (real Hollywood royalty and a legend) a second choice and back up when Megsy and Harry declined?
Who is putting out this BS and expecting people to believe it?
I do wish the Academy would call out this BS (and Jane Fonda), because fake news like this takes on a life of its own.
I went to YouTube to check the date, and it's time-stamped March 5, 2019 . . two weeks before MM went on her endless 'maternity leave'. She's pretending to be as big as a stevedore and has to adopt an extra-wide stance on the plush carpeting so she doesn't topple over in her stilettos.
I've noticed that, apart from the Remembrance Day ceremonies, the RF hardly ever marks anniversaries on the actual day. The Queen's April birthday is marked in June, for the better weather, and Charles got an entire summer's worth of 70th birthday celebrations in addition to the family party on his actual birthday, November 14th, which is not conducive weather for garden fetes, either.
I had never seen the actual investiture ceremony and I've just seen a 9-something minute newsreel coverage from Pathe, well worth the view. Charles was invested at Canarvon Castle on July 5, 1969, when he was just 20. Presumably they held the 50th anniversary 'do on the correct day 3 months early so as to not interfere with the Queen's summer plans at Balmoral. I'm rather surprised they didn't go all out and have a ceremony at Canarvon Castle on the actual 50th anniversary since that's a rather big deal . . Chas being the longest-tenured Prince of Wales in history. Looking at some old artifacts at BP feels like a bit of a letdown.
A very young PC introduces the footage of his ceremony, in a quite high and impossibly posh voice. It's come down since. Chas has done a lot of things over the years which have not endeared him to a lot of people, but it's hard not to be impressed by the dignity with which he, still months shy of his 21st birthday, undertook the responsibilities of PoC. There are a few tender mother-son moments underneath the pomp that I don't mind saying brought a small tear to my eye.
Charles has been waiting and preparing all of his 71 years for the job of being King, and the Harkle Debacle has put that in jeopardy, along with his own inability to rein in his younger son and his rampaging wife. But Charles was raised a gentleman and surrounded all his life by people who followed the rules he was born to uphold. Nobody knows what to do with a phenomenon like the Markle . . he tells her twice to *stand back* and she just keeps charging ahead. A person who refuses to listen to the Queen of England or her son, the future King is the sort that will listen to nobody on the planet. Markle accepts no one alive as a greater authority than herself. It's an egomania that hardly seems containable in one small nondescript body.
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The Investiture of the Prince of Wales, July 5, 1969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb68uewyYmM
It was actually quite obvious from early on that she was hopeless at every aspect of the job of being a full-time royal. Why then did she grab at the opportunity with such over-the-top glee?
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>>>The only other garden party they attended together was Charles bday party right after their wedding. She wore that hideous pink dress . . <<<
Did you really think it was hideous? That was one of the (very, very) few times in her career as a Duchess that I thought she looked appropriate to the part. At very first glance, I wasn't sure how I felt about it, since we'd NEVER seen MM looking demure, with hosiery and all her skin covered. For her first time out of the gate (not counting the travesty that was the Poop Hat Christmas walk 2017) it seems that she listened to advice for the first and last time vis. appropriate attire. I was surprised that she went quite as demure as that . . I could see Kate in that dress very easily, which is probably why Rach picked it. I thought it was more successful by far than the next time we saw her, flaunting her shoulders on the TOC balcony in the off the shoulder darker pink number, the one I call "Harry Rochester's dusky island bride" look. And if anyone here wants to call that racist, go ahead . . she looked exactly like she'd stepped out of the pages of 'Wide Sargasso Sea'. It was another studied attempt to make sure she stood out by the only means she really knows--flaunting her sex appeal. I might have liked the dress a lot in another context, but it looked very inappropriate for a balcony appearance where skin in anathema.
In her island bride get-up, Smirkle further drew attention to herself an earned her nickname when she was pictured visibly snickering behind her hand when an elderly guardsman fell from his horse. He could have been very seriously injured. Kate looks horrified . . and Smirkle is laughing like it's the funniest thing she's seen.
Anyone who laughs at the very real possibility of someone else being seriously injured is not a good human being. It's been downhill from there, and yet this woman is still roaming around, making money hand over fist from 'woke' eejits and the citizens of three nations who are responsible for providing the millions for her security. It's gut-burning.
Hikari said..
Yippee!
For me, the best bit is almost at the very end, when they are forced to wait in the doorway..
Watch it carefully-
Two equerries stride forward, handsomely accoutred in uniform, to see them off. Look closely, very closely. Pure poetry. Beautiful.
Yes, we were being given the message - verb. sap.- but from whom?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okPIf_A2kwQ'
I doubt that William said 'senior members only'. Harry (certainly) and Meghan (as his wife) were considered senior members of the royal family. Not all senior members of the royal family are direct heirs nor present and future Princes of Wales (e.g. until Charles started producing children, Andrew was second in line to the throne, but he was never a direct heir nor future Prince of Wales, and, until he stepped back, sort of, he was still considered a senior member of the family).
I also doubt that Charles said 'stand back'. It is just not the sort of thing he would say.
The Harkles were in a place they were not supposed to be. They were going to follow the direct heirs (Harry never will be Prince of Wales, even if something should happen to William) until a staff member rushed forward to stop them, take them to one side and then instruct them to wait until the direct heirs and their spouses had moved on to the next room (where the Sussexes were supposed to be). The entire situation was handled relatively graciously, with due deference to the Sussexes, and without any interference or instruction required from the direct heirs.
However, I suspect that Meghan regarded this as a snub (and Harry) that was done in public and, as a narc, she would forever hold a grudge about this.
"It was actually quite obvious from early on that she was hopeless at every aspect of the job of being a full-time royal. Why then did she grab at the opportunity with such over-the-top glee?"
Not only is she hopeless at being a full time royal, she also seems hopeless at being Hollywood royalty as well. Her appearance at the Lion King red/yellow carpet event was proof of that. Actresses facing red carpet events, like brides preparing for their big day, do what it takes to look their best. Starvation, diet pills, botox, last minute alterations, quickie plastic surgery, whatever is needed.
Megs had the botox for the Lion King appearance, but her dress was a couple of sizes too small, & her hair & makeup looked like she did them in the car she took to the event. Her post birth behavior makes it impossible for me to believe she was actually breastfeeding Archie, so she can't have been averse to taking Adderall, or whatever she would need to get back to her earlier size.
We make fun of those in the acting profession, but to be good at it actually requires craft & discipline, traits Megs seems to sorely lack. Her one skill is 'networking' feverishly. She did a great job of 'networking' herself into the BRF.
Right ;)
Oh.....I believe she has at least ONE additional skill.
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Makes you realise how extreme her behaviour is, when you have to face the fact that she needs to be dealt with in the same way as someone breaking the law in a public street.
I bet she didn't have the slightest idea what the investiture was. I found a clip last week of Meghan being quizzed on British things and, yes, it was intended to be lighthearted, but she's so dismissive and throwaway in her whole attitude. We're all quaint peasants to her, to be used then dropped with all possible speed:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=trFWwBjdQFM
Wow, Samantha Markle is right. Megs really is 'Princess Pushy.'
Yes, The Mad Woman in the Attic.
From now on, to me, she’s Bertha Mason.
The RF have it in their power, just as any of us would with any relative who is a danger to herself or anyone else, to have her certified. Maybe not confined to the upper storeys of Windsor Castle in the care of a contemporary Grace Poole but in the comfort of a very upmarket care-home for the criminally insane.
Yet the optics are impossible. Even the ordinary person trying to get psychiatric help for a relative has to choose their words very carefully. It has to be explained in terms of one’s concern for them and to focus on their behaviour, not that one suspects that they are unbalanced or irrational. Otherwise, one finds that one’s own sanity is in doubt. You know, methinks she doth protest too much.
For the RF, the optics would be terrible, given that that there are, as Hikari says, all those feckin’ eejits on both sides of the Atlantic who believe all that racist sh*t about the UK and who can’t see that a b*tch who laughs at an old man who passes out and falls off an 18-hand charger onto a rock-hard road surface (that’s a 2 metre drop onto his head/back) is a thoroughly vile excuse for a human being. (To give Harry his due, at least he seemed to draw an appropriate sharp intake of breath between his teeth) -
Humanitarian? My arse.
Re: Princess Anne becoming Colonel in Chief of the Royal Marines -- speaking as a veteran, I would follow her into h3ll itself, rather than that feckless and worthless Harry. She would have been a bonafide hero in her own right in today's climate. As it is, she has earned her place many times over.
@BlueBell -- "Foyle's War" is a genuine classic! Everything perfect about it, down to the editing (a particular peeve of mine, being a recovering journalist, LOL)
And.....the DM is saying that the Harkles were "offered to announce Best Picture but politely declined."
Right ;)
@Cat’s Meow: I second your Right ;) with a Riiiiiiiiight!
My guess is either The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences said, “no,” or the Queen said, “NO!”
OR this is just another example of narcissistic lying. Narcissists tell lies as a matter of everyday speech.
This is right up there with claiming to not know much about Harry or the RF and the alleged invitation asking Doria to spend Christmas with the queen.
He was 3 years,2 months,3 weeks & 2 days old.
Hardly a Senior Royal.
She laughed when a guardsman fell off his horse??????
What kind of human does that???
It seems to me now that she spent her first months pretending to be a little girl...giggling, laughing inappropriately, and sticking her tongue out EVERYWHERE!
Creepy. Seriously creepy.
I was hoping they would show up, get booed, and dragged off the carpet by burly men. Maybe we'll get that at the Commonwealth event.
I'm pretty sure she's made both invitations up.
But maybe HM invited them so that she can take away the Commonwealth positions when they are "much, much too busy" to be able to make it.
Markle wouldn't dare show her face. Bread rolls are the least of what she'll be pelted with.
2014: Meghan starts relationship with Corey and started building credentials as a humanitarian/global activist (see below), but stopped in 2016 (long before the engagement and even before she outed the connection with Harry)
2015: Meghan in Istanbul as brand ambassador for Soho House (when did her networking at Soho House start, did Corey get her membership, when did she find out that Harry was connected to Soho House ...?)
May 2016: Meghan ended her relationship with Corey and claims to have met Harry in June 2016 (but let slip in a vanity Fair interview that it was actually in May 2016)
Meghan's credentials (which are actually quite shallow) ... she seemed to be building a CV as all these gigs were done through a PR company and she was pushing for as much exposure as possible:
'Markle was a counsellor for international charity One Young World. At the 2014 summit in Dublin, she spoke on the topics of gender equality and modern-day slavery. Also in 2014, she toured Afghanistan and Spain with the United Service Organisations.
In 2016, Markle became a global ambassador for World Vision Canada, travelling to Rwanda for the Clean Water Campaign. In 2016, after a trip to India focused on raising awareness for women's issues, she penned an op-ed for Time magazine concerning stigmatisation of women in regard to menstrual health. She has also worked with the United Nations Entity for Gender Equality and the Empowerment of Women as an Advocate. The Duchess is a vocal feminist and intends to use her role as a member of the royal family to continue supporting women's rights and social justice. In 2017, Markle joined Prince Harry in teaming up with the charity Elephants Without Borders to assist with the conservation efforts taking place in Botswana.'
I just find all this intriguing and wonder if a book will be written that is meticulously and thoroughly researched and what dots will be joined in such a book.
Watch what happened -
They did the next best thing to frogmarching her out - the black equerry stepped ahead and made it very clear that they had to leave by another exit.
Thanks for posting the link to the video of her answering questions about British things. That was interesting. It's obvious she has no interest in Britain. It's a shame Harry married her. Not a suitable member of the BRF. Does she take anything seriously--besides money and being a coverslut?
Charles said stay here. There’s footage of him saying that to both Harry and Meghan. Meghan goes to walk forward and that’s when Charles says stay here, and she takes another step and that’s when Charles points and repeats himself, if my memory serves me correctly. 🤗 Charles, etc walk off into the other room and you can see both Harry and Meghan walking into the back of the room. Meghan clearly has no idea (or respect) about hierarchy, protocols and inappropriateness, she does as she pleases all the time. She needs to be read the riot act, even then I don’t think she’d listen nor care. 🤨
>>Yes, The Mad Woman in the Attic.
From now on, to me, she’s Bertha Mason.<<<
There are a lot of commonalities between Edward Rochester and Harry. Both disaffected, directionless young men whose great wealth corrupted what little character they had in the first place, who partied hard and traveled around the world in search of a good time, and whose heads were turned by superficial beauty. Both were conned by appearances without asking appropriate questions and rushed into marriage and lavishing their fortunes upon a family of grifters before the con was discovered.
The Markles are a shady family . . they all seem after some cash and 15 minutes of fame, but these motives do not make their information untrue. Doria is shady, too, but unlike the Jane Eyre story, while the Markles/Doria may have contributed to the creation of the creature known as Rachel, they did not push her into Harry's path. In this tale, Gina Kruger-Cowne, Mischa Nonoo and Marcus Anderson have to stand in for the Mason brothers.
Not that Rach really *needs* pimps . . .she's great at pimping herself, but those connections helped.
In the story, Edward Rochester is brought to ruin and literally blinded for his refusal to see the dangers before it was too late. Our 'Bertha' wanted to live in the great house too, there to work her dastardly deeds, but was removed to a safe distance at Froggy Towers. Allegedly.
I wonder if Harry and Bertha would have been denied an apartment in Windsor Castle if Bertha had been well-regarded by the monarch and had demonstrated loyalty and trustworthiness. They were denied on the grounds that 'Windsor is the monarch's home' . . which it is . .basically her weekend home when she's not at Balmoral or Sandringham . . but it's a big place and unoccupied for most of the week. I think it more likely that Bertha was kept out because of fears she'd bug the place and go nosing around into the Queen's private chambers. And she totally would have. So in retaliation, Bertha spends lavishly on reno for Froggy Towers, a home she *never* intends to stay in.
Frogmore still bugs me. People are still howling over the 2.4 million pound renovation cost, which, considering the amount of work that had to be done to make the place habitable as a single family home, is very reasonable, if we consider that Bertha had spent nearly half this figure on clothing and jewelry in the first year she was married. I'm guessing that figure was for interior decorating and furniture, etc., since the structural/exterior work to a listed historical building would have come out of a different fund.
Even though denizens of Windsor swear that no extensive reno work has been visible, nor have there been any signs of habitation, still, FroggyCott keeps surfacing as a sticking point in the press and the negotiations. There must be something going on there.
The RF have it in their power, just as any of us would with any relative who is a danger to herself or anyone else, to have her certified. Maybe not confined to the upper storeys of Windsor Castle in the care of a contemporary Grace Poole but in the comfort of a very upmarket care-home for the criminally insane.
Thanks for mentioning Foyles War. I love this series and your reminder of it makes me want to watch it again.
At the Investment video where The Harkles are blocked, you can hear Prince Charles saying “Stand Back.” On YouTube.
@cookie Shark There is a video showing MM snooping in the back of Harry’s car and a friend confronting her and running her off. I am not sure where I saw it. Maybe Skippy’s blog or Celt News.
I didn’t see racism, @Magatha, in your comment, either.
I don't know if Meg meets the criteria for clinical insanity. That would indicate that she 1. has zero awareness of right vs. wrong and 2. No awareness/control over her own actions.
I think she does know right from wrong . . she just doesn't care. Typical notions of morals or ethics or 'laws' does not apply to her, in her mind. And she does have control over her actions, however poorly thought out or executed they seem to viewers. It appears that a deep-seated pathology of personality can co-exist with sanity according to legal definitions. Would Meg 'act' insane if it would help her slide out of culpability for her actions? I wouldn't put it past her.
Releasing lies in print isn't insane in itself. Nor is arranging pap walks with a doll which you are foisting off on the world as your infant. Insanity would come into play if she actually *believes* that her PR stunts are 'real'. I think this is why the RF has not come down like a ton of bricks on 'the Archie Show' . . if the 'Duchess' were truly so delicate and uncertain in her reality, she would not have been expected to do so many public appearances while 'pregnant', nor sent to known Zika regions and extraneous overseas travel while in 'late pregnancy'. Meg's schedule during 'pregnancy' would not have been expected, or undertaken, by a truly pregnant woman, out of an excess of caution. A truly expectant mum would take those precautions out of love for her unborn child and not act recklessly. That MM was allowed to basically do as she pleased 'while pregnant' is suggestive that TPB knew that it was a hoax being perpetrated by someone who was *not* actually suffering a mental breakdown but rather acting out solely for attention. I suppose the dictum 'Say nothing, pretend everything's normal' was the BRF's way of trying to contain the situation. Not successfully, as we see.
Another moment where Harry and Meghan laugh, this time at a performance, and when nobody else is laughing. This is at the 2018 Commonwealth Day.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dLQQjyefyO4
Doesn't speak well for them.
The only thing they are serious about is themselves.
Apropos of the 'Bertha Mason' comparison Wild Boar and I were drawing, I just noticed your avatar! LOL Very fetching. You don't crack up when people fall off their horses and face possible paralysis or death, do you? Because you really need to be laughing behind your hand all the better to merch your wedding rings to complete this look.
Yeah, the unavoidable conclusion that I have come to is that Harry is a real douchebag. Like attracts like. The Professional Yacht Girl and her Douchebag--a Match Made in Hell!
I still don't know what was going on with Harry at the Well Child awards at the end of last year. I was willing to chalk up his giggles to nerves and/or trying to master his emotions--laughing so he didn't cry kind of thing--but other people swear he and Markle were sharing a private joke and cracking themselves up. In a roomful of parents with terminally ill children.
Tossers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Guthrie,_Baron_Guthrie_of_Craigiebank
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/09/trooping-colour-lord-guthrie-thrown-horse-cememony/ (sic)
Hikari- I love it! Froggy Towers as Thornfield Hall! Is there an Adele? Bertha would have made the most of every opportunity for intelligence gathering at the Castle, I do agree.
I can't see any plain Jane Eyre coming to Harry's rescue any time soon but I do like the idea of Froggy Towers being converted to a very secure one-woman home with padded rooms, 24 hour supervision, plenty of virtual reality for amusement and a pre-booked place in one of the Mausolea, or even perhaps in a mausoleum of her own if she's not judged fit company for Wallis and David.
Btw - I've always thought of the original for Mr Brocklehurst, the clergyman, as a pervert -the obsession with hair and personal linen, nowt to do with Romanticism.
The video of MM searching through the boot of PH's Audi was at a Polo Match in 2017. Another blogger described her actions as those of a "rabid racoon". She attended the POLO with Serena Williams and Alex O, they were totally bemused by her actions. Another by stander alerted Mark Dyer and Adam Bidewell who saw MM off, but she kept trying to sneak back to search the car. SW and AO walked off and left her. Heard that PH's phone was the object of her desire?? Try Skippy's archives for footage.
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Any way you look at that Zitka-virus-traveling-pregnant show, it makes you question her sanity. Either she wasn't pregnant and thought nobody would ever notice, or she didn't even care about her own child enough to take basic precautions.
She is terrifying.
Meg's actions do seem insane at times, but I still think, were Meg's mental state or *actual, confirmed* pregnancy matters of concern for the RF, the Queen would have cancelled their Oceania tour, or sent Harry solo. Austalia in summer seems like a recipe for Zika mosquitoes, but what the heck do I know? She did cancel a jaunt deep into the bus in a Jeep to accompany Harry to an aboriginal village which had prepared a special native ceremony/dance for them. She milked the 'pregnancy card' that time . . all the better to stay in their air conditioned hotel suite keeping the mini-bar company.
**Note: I do not have receipts for the above statement. It is my personal, though deeply held opinion, only that Meg was never pregnant in Australia. I imagine she enjoyed the minibar because we have documented proof that she enjoys a drink and it wouldn't have done to be seen drinking in the lounge due to 'being pregnant'.
The hastily-arranged and pointless tour of Morocco (staged to keep MM away from the Oscars) in the alleged last trimester of her pregnancy was even odder. London to North Africa is not an insignificant flight for a woman in that advanced state of pregnancy. Whether it's shorter or longer than Meg's preferred itinerary of Heathrow to LAX is up for debate. Most women who were that pregnant would not fly for frivolous or non-essential reasons.
Frivolous and non-essential is the Harkles' middle names.
Aww...those stories are heartbreaking!
Her protection officer quit shortly after the incident in Fiji, didn t she? Some insight there into why. I think there was some retirement story floated.
I doubt she’d think it would be funny if SHE fell off a horse on her head!!!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡
Probably she realized there were not enough cameras and those waiting for her were not rich and famous. Some humanitarian.
I wonder if it is the Harkle PR pushing the story that they declined the Oscars, and I wonder if anyone from the Oscars will comment.
That the Dumbartons are hell on wheels to work for is beyond question, but one thinks it would take more than diva b!tchiness to drive away a seasoned RPO who was most likely ex-military.
After the Oceania tour was when Meg's assistant Melissa Toubati quit, too, in the wake of rumors that Meghan had thrown scalding tea at her. Narcissists are simmering pots of rage all the time, but what caused such a shocking boil-over, I wonder?
****I do not have any receipts for the following statement. My personal opinions are provided for entertainment and discussion purposes only.***
Two female staffers desert Meg after the tour. The tour during which she debuted 'Bump' and which, according to staff at Australia House, was the source of regular screaming matches between the newlyweds (who slept in separate rooms--strange in the 5th month of marriage to one's soulmate, n'est pas?) over whether Rachel 'was really pregnant.' Harry did not seem to know . . .a question that would continue to eat at his mind for months to come. (Cf. February, 2019, Morocco: "Wait, you're pregnant? Is it mine?"
Another passive-aggressive specialty from Haz 'My wife will now say a few words in French' Wales . . .
Perhaps Meg's female security officer or personal assistant accidentally walked in on her sans Bump or in the process of strapping it on, and had to be swiftly removed . . .? After being paid off for their silence, of course.
Am sure that there were plenty of reasons the female RPO left after the Oz tour, main one being MM, did hear that she was the one who confirmed what the RF suspected. Surrogate and moonbump.
The fun part was that his post was about them being booed at the event.
I believe I hear Karma dancing the hoochie-coochie.
https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2018/06/17/harry-and-mm-booed-at-trooping/
Do you have the link for that horse-falling video?faced
I've been trying to find it.
I'll bet you are right!!!
One of these days I will learn to refresh before commenting
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This is off on a tangent, but it involves a big time supporter/promoter of MM and PH, (so Nutty please excuse), did not watch the Oscars but all the photo's I've seen of the awards etc, does anyone else think Elton John looks really ill??
A modern Out of Africa does seem to be the only option. He can only 'do' Africa in luxury, so his family and we would have to suck it up, as long as he was willing to bloody well stay there. Train local people to protect him and nursemaid him permanently. Pay them well. Give him lots of booze to keep him happy and say bye-bye Harry. He'll have all the privacy he wants.
Oh and add me to the list of Foyle's War fans. I've watched them all so many times I know the scripts by heart. Another I would strongly recommend is Victoria Wood's one-piece drama about wartime housewife Nella Last, called 'Housewife 49'. You can get it through Amazon. Just as I used George VI's quiet heroism to get me through panic attacks, I also relied on the example of Nella Last. She coped with lack of money, wartime shortages and a husband who tried to keep her so stifled at home that she had periods of being unable to cope with life. Then she pulled herself together, joined the Women's Royal Voluntary Service, wrote a brilliant wartime diary as information for the government about how civilians were managing at a time of total war and did an enormous amount for the Red Cross, supplying prisoners of war. Sounds worthy when I put it like this, but she was a real character. Very bracing in her north-country opinions. If you read this extract, you'll have a good idea what she would have said about Meghan!!!
"She [a Mrs Dodds] pays £7 10s 0d for a teaspoon of perfume when little children have to wait for fresh warm clothes after an air raid, when so much could be done with 7s 6d, never mind £7 10s 0d. After all her morals and her disposition are her own concern but for the sin of wasting so much money I would have her whipped. When I thought of how we planned and worked and collected our raffles, and begged, I felt no punishment could fit the crime of not only Mrs Dodds but of many more, not the big people but the ‘new rich’, and suddenly I saw greed and ugliness [...]. The war does make me intense about things. I never realised that I could get so carried away. It’s perhaps a good thing I’m so busy or else I’d be off carrying a banner for something or other. I feel I want to DO THINGS – help in a real way, for there is such a lot to do everywhere."
Nella Last found pleasure in little things, as I do. Seeing sunshine on her well-polished furniture, enjoying a modest fire on a cold day, going for walks in Springtime and chatting to interesting folk she met on the bus. She endlessly plans clever menus out of almost nothing, makes new clothes from old and fashions toys for bombed-out children. Just like my own grandmother in the war. Let's always remember them. A good antidote to all that Meghan represents.
I like your avatar. There many people around with a killer sense of humor. Hat off to whoever did it.
Thanks for all the replies re Foyle's War! Yes, it is a series so well-written and produced that it deserves to be re-watched again and again!
Magatha - "Elise" is such a tragic story. Horowitz did a great deal of research for this series.
I think the show was well cast and the characters are very well fleshed-out...even the changing cast of guest characters are full of "flavor". Sam is my favorite!
PaisleyGirl - the attention to detail is astonishing. I picked up a little something that I missed on re-watching "Fifty Ships" last night. They referred to a murder witness who was sleeping in his car, as a "trekker". Google told me these were people who "who left the towns and cities and spent the night in a rural area, rather than their homes, during bombing raids".
NeutralObserver - I think the "moral decency" aspect was part of the reason why I currently felt like re-watching this series!
Lt Uhura - the series really is perfect, isn't it? and I agree about the editing.
Browneyed - FW is currently streaming on Amazon if you're interested!
BTW The series takes place in Hastings in SUSSEX and much of the filming was done there. It looks to be a lovely area. Too bad Markle didn't take more of an interest in her faux "Duchy" when she had the chance.
A loving and tender partner would never make such a mean joke, especially in front of others. MM smiled along with it but I am almost sure she was not happy, or if it was it just shows how dysfunctional all of this is. Harry sounded exactly like a man who had either been forced into a marriage and then a baby, and who wasn't happy about it.
This is more diabolical than usual for me, but maybe he made that comment in the presence of others because he knew MM couldn't lash back in front of an audience. If they were truly scamming everyone, I do believe there was a part of Harry that felt bad about it.
DM article about how they declined the invitation to present at the Oscars. Second highest comment: "Rubbish. Next they'll claim the Academy wanted to give Meghan a Lifetime Achievement Award."
Thank you. I wish I could take the credit.
It's the character of Cam from the Halloween episode of Modern Family. His partner is a small ginger man who went as Harry.
https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Modern-Family-Halloween-Costume-Pictures-2018-45301031
https://www.today.com/style/modern-family-character-cam-dresses-former-meghan-markle-t138068
>>>I always thought Harry's "is it mine" comment was laced with contempt and venom. I can see a doofus dad making a joke like "Oh, you're pregnant?" to his very pregnant wife in private perhaps, but it wouldn't be well received.<<<
Yes. Haz's specialty is passive-aggressiveness. By this point in the 'pregnancy' (late Feb.) H. had to have been well aware that the ever-changing, migrating and sometimes entirely absent Bump was a put-on. The kind of 'joke' he made might be tossed around by drunk guys needling their mate at the pub, but not in this context, on an official visit.
I can't remember now if this remark was made in Morocco or during the UK visit when she wore the infamous Oscar de la Renta 'Enchanted Forest' dress? Either way, it was definitely laced with contempt and venom. But who deserves these more than Meg?
>>>Harry sounded exactly like a man who had either been forced into a marriage and then a baby, and who wasn't happy about it.<<<
Yep, pretty much. I think there were actually a number of faux pregnancies used, 'Archie' being the last. I think it's a fair assumption that she pretended to be pregnant in September 2017, to compel Haz to 'make it official' . . for a convincer, she dragged along her mother and Markus Anderson. Nice touch sandbagging Haz with her mother at a high profile public event that was supposed to be a triumph for him. He looked more than miserable that night--he looked sweaty, queasy and scared.
HM required them to wait a full six months to get married (a standard Royal engagment, but very long if the bride was going to be in her 'third trimester of pregnancy' by May. I think once the white wedding was promised and set, the 'baby' was conveniently forgotten, though her wedding dress was left suggestively loose and there were the knowing smirks at the 'procreation of children' bit of the vows. Only, this couldn't be the *same* fake pregnancy as the one used to snare an engagement, because she would have been about 8 months gone if it were.
By the time MM turned up wearing an ostentatiously open maternity coat at Eugenie's wedding, Haz most likely didn't know whether to scratch his watch or wind his butt. I think he was strong-armed to the altar in some fashion and coerced into going along with the surrogate pregnancy. He wanted the freedom from the RF which he now has, but I think he'd have much preferred it to be on his own (bachelor) terms. Only, he didn't have the initiative to do it on his own, so now he's saddled with a wife who he can't stand and a 'kid' who may or may not exist.
Was it all worth it, Harry?
Feb 10, 2020 2:25 PM
Open Post: Meghan and the Oscars
Feb 10, 2020 2:27 PM
Open Post: How will Meghan spoil Beatrice's wedding?
Feb 10, 2020 2:28 PM
Enty's latest podcast about Meghan, with a "secret source": Is this a true story?
why JP Morgan had them out, i have no clue. JPM wants something or a favor was called in. Their fee is reported as anywhere from $400k to $1 million. doubt it's the $1M. They'll get some more gigs but it will burn out quickly if he keeps pulling the poor Harry card. That gets old quick.
I don't think the offers are coming in like they hoped. But i wish the RF would stop giving them props. Stop mentioning them, stop inviting them back etc. It would look better for the RF if they'd just cut them off as far as any publicity.
Lol! How Markle dresses to emphasize her "hourglass figure and tiny waist" since having Archie.
She could be committed on the basis of this article alone. She really thinks we will just now and go "tiny waist, yup, yup, yup" and that's it.
And thanks to everyone on Foyles War! I've never seen it and I'm delighted to find a great new show to enjoy.
Was she stoned?
That was utterly charming, not hilarious.
Cringeworthy. The whole world exists as a prop for Smirkles
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7988769/Queens-eldest-grandson-Peter-Phillips-SPLITS-wife-Autumn-12-years-marriage.html
>>>I don't think they got invited to the Oscars. Period. And they may have contacted Elton about his party and he probably told them "no freebie" and maybe even discouraged them from going. He was up for an Oscar and won. He would not want them taking his attention. And i think he'd know they wouldn't fit in and he might get bad press from it.<<<<
Yeah, Elton no doubt saw what happened to Serena Williams *every time* MM was in the stands. He did not want to be Markled on Oscar night, or Bernie, either.
Just last summer he was rolling out the private jets and the invites to his place in Nice, but even Uncle Elton is tired of the whining and the nonstop entitlement. Elton came up from nothing and he had a crappy childhood, too. His parents weren't dead, but they were dysfunctional and unloving toward him and each other. His dad left the family and started another, having kids with his second wife to whom he was able to show affection in a way he'd never been able to to his firstborn. Screwed Elton up for years . . Now that E. is in a good place, he probably does not want to endlessly rehash Harry's damage. Losing Diana was very painful for her good friend, too, but constantly picking at that psychic would is not going to bring Diana back.
If Elton is Done with Them, I think they have burnt their last celebrity bridge.
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Re. the Commonwealth service or retaining them as patrons of the Commonwealth Trust, I don't understand what positive mileage the Queen thinks she can get out of this. It's not like having them back for a Christmas or a wedding . .this is a very public role for the Royals. Minge and Dinge have been taking a very public dump all over the Commonwealth since they've been married. Yes, it's been on the diary for 6 months . . just quietly remove them from the diary. They both have made it abundantly plain that they will not do anything with good grace unless they are getting paid, and not even then. Does the Queen want them booed . . in church?
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>>>Peter and Autumn Phillips are splitting up<<<<
Very sorry to hear this, since they have young children. Have they been Markled . . indirectly?
A fair amount of sugar, but a little was new to me. For example that William only learned of The engagement 2 hours
before the announcement, and he had only met her once.
Majesty case that Harry is deeply complicit in their strategems and leads more than we might think.
A deeply angry young man, but we knew that.
https://airmail.news/issues/2020-2-8/the-makings-of-a-royal-mess
Her TEAM??
Her Majesty's family is disintegrating before her eyes. 2 more great-grands moving to Canada?
This is why I believe it's best for people to marry citizens of their own countries, but particularly royals. I'm all for international love across borders, but when children arrive, it can get very messy and tragic if both parents are not committed to co-parenting in the same country after a split.
>>>I'm wondering if they've been invited back to get Archie here.<<<<
Let's see if they oblige. That would make for some interesting optics, if Archie is say, 15 months rather than 10. Or if they have a baby at all.
>>>She could be committed on the basis of this article alone. She really thinks we will just now and go "tiny waist, yup, yup, yup" and that's it.<<<
Of course we HAVE to believe what she prints in her PR over the evidence of our own eyeballs because IT'S IN PRINT, THEREFORE IT MUST BE TRUE.
In the early days of their engagement, when all the old, more stylish photos of her from her Suits/Tig days were flooding Internet, I honestly didn't notice her figure flaws. I saw a very slender woman in bright au courant fashions, who was styled nicely, but it's very clear that she was never doing any of that styling herself. Her old clothes worked for her, because it was only after she started dressing herself in belted bathrobes that her resemblance to Sponge Bob was apparent.
You know who does have a tiny waist, of course . . .Catherine. She's got the enviable feminine proportion that would be an hourglass if her glass was more full.
>>>And thanks to everyone on Foyles War! I've never seen it and I'm delighted to find a great new show to enjoy.<<<
I think you'll love it. I do. Seasons 1-5 deal with 'the war years', the final episode of that batch dealing with VE Day. Basically each series of 3-4 episodes deals with one year of the war. Then after a hiatus of a few years, the show picked up again with the Cold War years and three very stellar seasons followed about that.
That's exactly it, lol. If it's in print, it must be true.
Maybe that is how she trained Harry. Left him a memo every morning.
Using every amount reported for what they have earned for the summit in Miami.
I saw on one of the blogs that Markle was in an alternative investment summit in the Caymans with Jay Leno a few years back. Not JPMorgan, but she's clearly been around this block as well
I can't find the blog, but I found an article:find
https://www.caymanfundsmagazine.com/news/us-talk-show-host-jay-leno-to-headline-cais-2016-422
>>>Re. the Commonwealth service or retaining them as patrons of the Commonwealth Trust, I don't understand what positive mileage the Queen thinks she can get out of this.<<<
I agree it was odd to leave them as patrons.
But I'm at all not convinced the Queen has begged them to come back for the CW service either. A few years ago (after the "dad-dancing weekend that meant W&K missed the CW service) **supposedly** TQ made a big deal about expecting people to attend the service. But in this case, I think it's just the service is the first event this year lots of royals are expected to attend. So it quite possible the invite/request is BS from H&M's team. Just like the Doria invite for Sandringham Christmas, the birthday party for M at Balmoral, the Kate's having a baby shower for M, the invite to present best picture award at the Oscars...
I just read an article in the Express that Harry inherited his mother’s wedding gown when he turned 30. An odd bequest maybe but she didn’t have a daughter to leave it to. My not-quite-normal mind immediately wondered why MeGain didn’t insist on wearing it for her own nuptials. I mean other than it being in excrebly bad taste. That has never been a consideration she’s cared about before. In her effort to be Diana 2.0 in her own Jocasta/Oedipus re-enactment, “What Meghan wants, Meghan gets”. Do y’all think she suggested this idea to Harry?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7988993/End-fairytale-Autumn-Phillips-fell-husband-Peter-realising-royal.html
The Queen's favorite grandson (sorry, Harry and Wills) caused a bit of a flap when he chose the Catholic Montreal native Autumn Kelly for his bride. The couple met in at the Montreal Grand Prix in 2003 where Autumn was 'a Budweiser girl'. The couple married 5 years later *in St. George's Chapel* 2 days short of 10 years from Haz and Mess (May 17, 2008). So perhaps they were Markled in retro fashion. Hope the same fate does not befall Eugenie and Jack, Gabriella Windsor and every other couple who has, or will be married in St. George's Chapel, particularly in the month of May.
Autumn's wedding dress was really lovely. The couple engendered outrage in royal circles for accepting 500,000 pounds for selling their wedding photos to Hello! Peter's milk ad was not the first time they have run afoul by 'merching' their royal connection, but they seem to do it selectively. I can't speak to what Britons would feel, but since the couple received NO taxpayer monies and do not have titles for themselves or their kids, and work regular, if rather elite jobs (Peter is with the Bank of Scotland in corporate accounts now after long association with Formula One racing and Autumn has run a variety of businesses, and has been a PA to a dignitary . . .selling their wedding album or hawking milk doesn't seem to me that egregious. Not after 2 years' worth of Sussex Shenanigans.
Hopefully the couple will reconcile for the sake of their daughters (11 and 9.) Yet more Annus Horibilus 2.0 for Gan-Gan, sadly.
This is a lot easier to believe than swallowing that someone who was obsessed with Diana from childhood wouldn't have a clue about Diana's second son. "Is he kind?" Gag.
>>>I just read an article in the Express that Harry inherited his mother’s wedding gown when he turned 30. An odd bequest maybe but she didn’t have a daughter to leave it to. My not-quite-normal mind immediately wondered why MeGain didn’t insist on wearing it for her own nuptials. I mean other than it being in excrebly bad taste. That has never been a consideration she’s cared about before. In her effort to be Diana 2.0 in her own Jocasta/Oedipus re-enactment, “What Meghan wants, Meghan gets”. Do y’all think she suggested this idea to Harry?<<<
I'd always wondered what had happened to Diana's wedding dress. I guess I assumed that it was lovingly cared for in a museum somewhere. Even if Diana had had a daughter to leave it to, I really can't imagine it being worn by another bride.
I may have some virtual tomatoes flung in my general direction if I opine that to me, Di's wedding gown was a bit of a disaster. Diana was statuesque, getting married in a huge venue as the future Queen consort of Great Britain .. plus it was the 1980s. A big dress was called for. But it was too much of a good thing. The 5'10" bride was swamped in it, really, and it was ivory, not doing her complexion many favors. I always think ivory dresses look a bit dirty . .in any case, if any bride deserved to wear white, it was Diana. The main problem was the crumpling, which had not been anticipated.
Can we imagine that dress on Meg? Maybe she would have literally suffocated in the billows of silk organza. Wouldn't that have been a shame.
>>>I too hope that Peter and Autumn reconcile - it seems strange that he thought everything was fine and was totally taken by surprise. How was Peter to work on any issues if he was unaware of them? I wonder if Autumn has been missing her family and friends from Canada and after seeing the Harkles leave, she got the strength to do it herself.<<<
After 12 years of marriage, it would seem like they would have worked out how to split their time between countries to allow them to see Autumn's family semi-regularly. Even with the girls in school, they still get rather lengthy holidays. Money doesn't seem to be an issue for frequent travel, the way it would be for a regular working couple with young kids. The Phillips' live, presumably rent free on the Gatcombe Park estate, same as Zara and Mike do when they are in England, since Gatcombe was a gift outright from the Queen to Anne.
Marriage is hard work sometimes no matter what echelon of society you're from; I would hope that Autumn would explore every avenue toward being happier within her marriage before she throws the towel in.
While she was tall, Diana lost weight before the wedding. I'm not sure M's "tiny waist" would have fit in the dress.
We don't know that Harry owns the dress now either.
The most educational thing about this whole debacle is how blithely news outlets will print ANYTHING, even when made up out of whole cloth. How many thousands of lies, spun by Markle have made it into print? She constantly teases and ends up doing 10% or less of what is printed.
I'm sure the Times is printing in good faith, but 'good faith' is not a concept with which the Harkles are familiar.
I'm sure the Royal Marines *can't wait* to have their traitorous Captain General back for a 'farewell'. I think Auntie Anne had been accompany him so he doesn't get hurt. I'm serious.
As for Archie, I don't know what his future holds, or if he will ever be properly seen. Wherever he is, I hope to God Markle is not his mother.
Last I heard it had been on display at Althrop House, back when Diana's brother was busy cashing in on her death.
Maybe some adult around Harry arranged for it to be loaned to his uncle Charles Spencer?
What a bizarre item to bequeath to someone.
If true, why didn't Meghan wear it?? Lol. Can you imagine. No one, literally no one would let that happen. Also, it's quite likely she couldn't because the dress all snot and tear stained by now since Harry cries himself to sleep every night clutching the damned dress. You know, trauma n all ... 🙄
.... And if he isnt, then maybe he should. Who knows, but THAT might help him get over self pity issues since therapy and good advice doesn't seem to do much good. 😜
Don't know if it is true (would someone actually print something they didn't know to be absolutely true?) but it sounds reasonable that it is a split
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/princess-diana-wedding-dress-after-death.html/
I think he was strong-armed to the altar in some fashion and coerced into going along with the surrogate pregnancy.
@Hikari: So in agreement with this statement:
I posted this a few days ago from Harry Markle's blog, but it’s worth repeating. It is an anonymous email received by harrymarkle, who thinks the source is generally accurate.
It is no longer on Harrymarkle. It was removed during the last month or so. I’m glad I copied it.
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MARCH 31, 2018
Sent in by ‘XxxxxxXxXxxxxx’
Meghan and Harry started as a play and pay situation.he has always been naughty but he could get away with it.this time harry was very unlucky.he was set up by Misha meghan and some pple.Harry was serious with some1 but meghan was able to work her sex magic and make harry stick around.however harry wasn’t planning to Marty her even to get serious with meghan.
fast forwad to problems after the engagementArguments btwn harry and meghan started the night of their engagement announcement.by xmas holiday harry heard made his mind that meghan is not what he wanted.by mid december harry heard gone quite on meghan hence thats y she turned up for xmas lunch unannounced she was never invited but she turned up forcefully and she was able to manipulate him up to a point where harry fell out with his family and ddnt go for the boxing day hunt.
through manipulation he was willing to try and make the relationship work but it ddnt take long once again for harry to realise that she was a liar a cheat and a manipulator.Meghan was seeing other guys behind Harry’s back who actually conducted harry around February and told him everything all the secrets they even warned him to stay away from meghan.this guys were used by meghan and dumped.some of this guys were taking care of her financially and they were planning a future with her.they were fleeced of their cash and unceremoniously dumped.
the revelations where the final straw that’s when PH ended things with her.from there PH has discovered so many secrets abt his future bride.Harry has told her so many times l dnt want u anymore but she is forcing him into the wedding with threats and desperation.Meghan is seeing 3 guys once again one of those guys even contacted harry last week and he was devastated.the reason y meghan is still around is coz the royals hve been expecting her to use her common sense to see and accept that Harry is done with her but she is not listening soon Henry will tell her in front of the senior royals that he is done with her that’s wen she will leave.blackmailing and threats hve not worked so far.
the royals are decent pple they will give her a bit of money .she is prostituting herself at the moment and also money from magazine covers bt she aint making a lot of money.in summary the relationship ended in February when she was exposed as a cheat by the way Corey and Trevor also spoke to Harry and tell him everything
By the way there are no arrangements or anything done with her by the royals.The other issue as well meghan has got mental health problems.PH knws about that she takes some kind of medication for it By the way the Royals including Harry they are not supporting her financially she has got debts up to her eyebrows where she is staying its expensive.she claimed to be a millionaires so harry basically told her to get on with it but the truth of the matter is that she is broke the money she makes on magazine covers goes to PR accommodation and her clothing but still its not enough that’s y she is dating other guys now for money
Back in the state’s she has nothing even her own home.
Harrymarkle notation at the end of this email: SENT IN FROM AN ANON unedited except for paragraphs, but I think I know who from and they have been pretty reliable.