It's no secret to regular readers of the blog that we're dealing with some regular posters who are very unpleasant. In particular, they target popular commenters with the goal of making them miserable and driving them away.
My suspicion is that these posters are paid, and that their real goal is to get rid of me and the blog itself.
Social media nitwits have long been part of Meg's PR budget; who can forget her clueless supporters on the DM comment boards? And Meg and her sugars have "outed" or gone after other bloggers who displeased her.
Alternately, we could be talking about a single troubled person who gets their jollies out of creating multiple personalities and arguing with themselves. Whatever it is, it's unwelcome and annoying, and we need to take action.
Anyway, I've identified a few possible approaches, with upsides and downsides.
Here they are:
The negatives: Everyone would have to take a few moments to create a Wordpress profile if they don't already have one. Also, Wordpress shows me your IP which can indicate your general location - unless you use a VPN - plus whatever email address you have set up to comment.
I personally don't care about your email or your location, but if big corporate websites can get hacked, I suppose a small Wordpress site could as well.
Also, this solution would have to wait until I have time to fully implement it.
The positives: Can be implemented today. Allows for nested comments, which is something many Nutties have wanted for a long time, plus GIFS - not sure if that is a positive or a negative!
The negatives: Again, you will have to create an account, and Disqus exposes your email and IP address to me unless you use a VPN. (I suppose our troublesome poster could use a VPN and come up with a lot of nonsense postings from mulitple IPs, defeating the purpose)
I don't go to CDAN much any more - has Disqus worked well for Enty?
Personally, I rather like it that way - should someone get uncovered, I can say with full confidence that I had nothing to do with it!
Unfortunately, that wonderful openness has resulted in abuse. Some dullard seems to think it's fun to make me waste my time deleting multiple idiotic comments, multiple times per day.
What do you think the best way forward could be? I'll leave this poll open until late Monday to get everyone's input, and I'm also open to separate suggestions.
My suspicion is that these posters are paid, and that their real goal is to get rid of me and the blog itself.
Social media nitwits have long been part of Meg's PR budget; who can forget her clueless supporters on the DM comment boards? And Meg and her sugars have "outed" or gone after other bloggers who displeased her.
Alternately, we could be talking about a single troubled person who gets their jollies out of creating multiple personalities and arguing with themselves. Whatever it is, it's unwelcome and annoying, and we need to take action.
Anyway, I've identified a few possible approaches, with upsides and downsides.
Here they are:
Move to a Wordpress Blog
The positives: We can have several moderators, which is not possible for a Google Blogger Account. This would allow someone to moderate during the hours when I am asleep, roughly 10pm-6am Estonian time, which is when the mischief seems to happen.The negatives: Everyone would have to take a few moments to create a Wordpress profile if they don't already have one. Also, Wordpress shows me your IP which can indicate your general location - unless you use a VPN - plus whatever email address you have set up to comment.
I personally don't care about your email or your location, but if big corporate websites can get hacked, I suppose a small Wordpress site could as well.
Also, this solution would have to wait until I have time to fully implement it.
Add Disqus to this Blog
Enty has recently switched to Disqus commenting system on his Google Blog, which allows him to ban users and IPs.The positives: Can be implemented today. Allows for nested comments, which is something many Nutties have wanted for a long time, plus GIFS - not sure if that is a positive or a negative!
The negatives: Again, you will have to create an account, and Disqus exposes your email and IP address to me unless you use a VPN. (I suppose our troublesome poster could use a VPN and come up with a lot of nonsense postings from mulitple IPs, defeating the purpose)
I don't go to CDAN much any more - has Disqus worked well for Enty?
Continue without changes
Google Blogger allows for excellent privacy protection, and it is truly open to all. I see nothing but your screen name; I have no access to your email address or IP.Personally, I rather like it that way - should someone get uncovered, I can say with full confidence that I had nothing to do with it!
Unfortunately, that wonderful openness has resulted in abuse. Some dullard seems to think it's fun to make me waste my time deleting multiple idiotic comments, multiple times per day.
What do you think the best way forward could be? I'll leave this poll open until late Monday to get everyone's input, and I'm also open to separate suggestions.
Comments
I have no concerns regarding you knowing my IP/email address.
But I am concerned re hacking?
That said, anything can happen, so I just wanted to put that possibility out there.
Your IP doesn't reveal your identity, just your location. For example, on the IP I'm working on right now, there are more than 10,000 users. They're all in Estonia, however, so anyone who found the IP address would know that's where I lived.
The things is with these insulting comments is that there is no build up. I used to go through all the comments carefully to see how the fight started but, nope, it has nothing to do with what anyone said at all. It really does feel like people trying to derail the thread (or otherwise people spewing when they really should switch off the computer and take a break).
GIFs etc: I do find it quite refreshing that this format doesn't allow embedded images, it makes it so simple to scroll through reading and I can choose whether to follow any links to images. If I want to share an image it only takes a few moments to locate the URL and post it so I haven't personally missed the function.
I'm not worried about admins seeing my email or IP.
@Sandie
I had a Disqus account yonks ago!!
Not sure how I’ll navigate using my phone?
I chose to stay, but will be happy with the chosen choice.
I might learn a knew skill 😉
I don't mind staying on here or moving on to another platform but Disqus can be a bit glitchy.I haven't used my account in a couple of years so things may have changed. Also, some posters go overboard with gifs but there is a possibility of hiding them if I recall.
At present I scroll through the OT threads here and don't respond - just move on so no worries.
Honestly, I don't mind whatever causes less aggro for you Nutty. It is very kind of you to think of solutions and thank you for providing this great place. I'll follow wherever/whichever path you choose.
I’d be fine with a moderator and Wordpress or keeping things as they are, but I’m not the one being targeted. I’m sure that is very unpleasant for them. They’ve driven off Elle and who knows who else.
You’re so wise to the ways of the Internet world, Nutty! I never would have thought of someone being paid to be so unpleasant. If they aren’t paid, then we do have a disturbed soul here.
I enjoy this blog and the articulate and thoughtful posters on it. Good luck with resolving this!
I think biggest issue with entys site (disqus) is the ads and the inability to swiftly hit ▶️to move onto next post. your site is one post with string of comments so should fair well
I do like WordPress but seems like alot of work for you
thanks Nutty for allowing us to have a voice
I do however feel for you when you have to spend time deleting stuff. That said, if most of us can scroll by and ignore irrelevant stuff and you have time and are happy (or rather resigned) to zip through and delete where necessary that’s fine by me. You do a fantastic job.
My only concern is possible hacking by crazy Markle followers or her paid PR men.
Out of all Markle discussion blogs this one is the most informative with great comments from around the world. I would love to see it continue in whatever form
I'm not particularly techno-savvy, despite having worked with the things since the 1980s. We have to pay for all computer help - I needed assistance to set up my gmail account for example.
On account of my age, the lock-down rules haven't changed and I'm not sure if I can call in assistance anyway, especially if 1-to-1 guidance is involved.
I also find change irritating - life's too short, especially now, for having to relearn what I can do already.
On the other hand, husband is anxious about something going wrong as a result of me contributing to this blog. The computer is our lifeline, for email and online ordering, contacting our GP and so on.
When the desktop (ads or IP)`informs' me of my location it is accurate only to the region in which I live. Even so, despite keeping our online presence to a minimum, there's enough to allow someone to cause serious trouble for us.
Yet I feel strongly that I should continue to have my say.
What a situation. I'll have to give it careful thought - I'm very interested to see what other Nutties have to say.
Perhaps I'll have to comment in the DM instead!
However, as the blog administrator you may find it somewhat difficult to get going. I know of one blogger who is currently trying to set up a new WordPress site and pulling her hair out in frustration. She calls it WordUnimpress.
Posters initially need to be approved in order to post. Those who act out can be banned, so multiple moderators to watch the site aren't needed. Access can be given if you'd like others to be allowed to post stories. One negative for posters is that once you submit your comment, there is no option to delete and repost.
I scroll through the crazy posts here and don't engage, but I find it disturbing that good posters are driven away. If these posters are in fact paid with this goal in mind, then unfortunately it's working. The other explanation that certain posters are this mentally unbalanced is quite disturbing to me.
Nutty, you've created an excellent site and it and your posters should be protected. I'm in the US and have learned a lot about UK history and the BRF here. I hope you are able to keep things going and appreciate the site very much.
Thank you for such a nice blog and your almost daily involvement.
Thank you so much for the blog @Nutty. May you and your loved ones always have good health and happiness.
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when you realize exactly which characters are complete fallacy, makes for a hard read as everything shared is complete lie
In the end I voted for this site to stay as it is.
Slighty off-topic : would it be possible to get a Night-Mode version up in here?
As far as VPNs go, the Opera browser has one built in to the browser, itself. No need to add an additional VPN if you use Opera. It also has a decent adblocker, as well.
Sometimes, as in the last week or so, the abruptness and hostility of the language used actually makes me feel sick and very unsettled. Especially when I'm in the middle of a crisis selling my house. I could stop coming here for a while, but why should I? Many Nutties feel like friends. We all need to feel connected after this long period of isolation and stress.
It's also very hard to stand by while fellow long-term contributors are being attacked. Yes I know we should just ignore it and I usually do, but couldn't earlier this week as I was so aware of the effect on the fellow Nutty being targeted. Especially as, even if they are apparently no longer here, they may still be reading. Basically, I need to say 'this is not okay'. Just as I have done on several occasions to protect people being bullied on public transport.
So for me, the need to be able to ban people is vitally important. If I need to potentially compromise my total anonymity, I am getting to the point where this is a price worth paying. Either that or or I will leave the blog entirely rather than just tell the offender(s) I have stopped dealing with THEM.
I'm going to read up on the various options and will then vote.
Many thanks Nutty for looking into this so quickly and for all you do to keep this blog going.
My only worry with WordPress and Disqus is the possibility of being 'doxxed'.
Please not to mention VPNs again. The Bravo browser also has very good built in ad blocker. DM is difficult to load without ad blocker on a computer. This must be 10x worse on a Phone. I see some complaints from Apple-Safari users. Why on God's green earth are you so committed to Safari? Try some other browsers. In order of usefulness I would install to try out --
Bravo
Chrome
Opera
Firefox
If I’m interested in a post, I comment then I select email follow-up comments and all subsequent comments are sent to me via email. It means I can skim through and/or delete comments.
Even a lurker can do it. No need to have a name, be Unknown etc., just type Hello etc., and select email follow-up comments. ;o)
Not sure how I’ll navigate using my phone?
I only ever comment via my phone, it’s probably why I’ve always had problems myself. :o(
I think this can be done with Blogger if Nutty prefers this format>>>>
Establish a new GMail account that you don't mind someone else using. Shift ownership of this blog to this new GMail account. Give someone in the US access to this GMail account. Then this someone will be able to co-administer this blog and delete Cats who is 95% of the disruptions. She also poses as an Unknown, though not that often.
I notice the wily Cats posting then quickly self-deleting which is really nuts and a waste of time. This is done for one reason.
Not crazy about the idea of gifs, they seem very hard to resist, and I hate wading through all that on other sites. I would be happy to have a moderator if it saves Nutty time and trouble. I don't mind a moderator seeing my IP address, although I have VPN protection on my devices.
I hate it when moderation is on. It kind of kills the thread and the world is without my brilliant commentary 😀
But do what works for you Nutty. Wither thou goest, and all that.
And poster? You are an @$$. You know who you are.
I'm sure you are enjoying all this. Me g isn't the only narc on this site.
I only comment via my phone.
I worry about the gifs!!! I just enjoy the banter.
The in-fighting IS distracting and I do hate that some interesting posters have left. My vote to stay doesn't mean I don't care about the lost and attacked posters because I do.
When seeing diatribes in the morning I used to waste time trying to figure out what the flashpoint had been the night before. But now I realize there is usually no there, there.
But IF the disruption is coming from a paid campaign of destruction rather than an unbalanced person or persons acting out (have no firm opinion about that myself) I'm not sure Disqus (which I generally don't like) would solve anything because of ways to use VPN. I don't know if WordPress solves the issue entirely either.
I'm not very tech savvy. But I assume paid disruptors might be. And if fighting here provides psychic energy to a few mentally unbalanced individuals, it's possible no stone will be left unturned in a quest to be able to continue those battles.
In either case, the non-disruptors among us may also be benefiting from the relative anonymity the current set-up provides. Not that I would care about Nutty having more info about me but since there are either evil OR unbalanced forces about...We've seen doxxing carried out by MM defenders on other sites and we've seen attempts to take fights from here to other blogs....
WordPress - I'm good with, staying as is I'm good with (2nd choice but still really fine with).
Just don't like Discus for some reason though. Just don't like the new format for CDAN. Not reading it as much or maybe I am getting bored with it and the new format is helping drive the discontent.
I have suspected people posting to agitate things up here at times. I actually knew someone who had done that on a site (over 20 years ago) where they posted as both sides of a rather tin hat alien abduction kind of site. They were only discovered when the FBI got involved for some different legal reason.
I suppose I could create another email which could be a dead end to make things harder if you were hacked. That's not an issue as long as it's not this week end. Then I'm good.
I love the informative, intelligent discussions we have.
I love coming here, I learn so much, about life, people.
Megs is secondary to this, an afterthought.
Our Nuttie Community is more important
than rag tag Pillocks.
So whilst we laugh at Megs, laugh also at those that try to do us down.
My vote is whatever is best for Nutty. It’s not fair to wake up every morning with the craziness. I know I post less because of the craziness. Ever since my first post, when I experienced the craziness firsthand. I’ve moved on by never addressing the poster or their comments. Crazy still happens regularly though. And that’s not fair to Nutty.
So I’m good with whatever
The recent post about clothing inappropriateness has been discussed endlessly before, but the merching topic was a good one as posters bring their expertise to the topic. For example, I did not know that someone with expertise can find out what is selling on Meghan Mirrors site. I know that Nutty is doing this without compensation. I am grateful for her work. As an American, I have learned so much.
My only thought is to change the topics more frequently, e.g. every2-3 days. That might reduce the juvenile posters. Is there any way to send a list of possible topics to Nutty without posting. For example, I believe that The Queen deserves enormous respect and admiration. But does respect put a cloak over the investigation of m&h in much greater. Or is the British press so hampered by tradition that British taxpayers are prevented from learning about the deeper details of the dreadful duo? For example, the recent discussion about drug use was derailed by posters suggesting that observation by posters is insufficient evidence to allege drug use. No one has commented how thin JH has become. While stress could be the cause, diet related drugs are easy to obtain in the US. I would be hard to convince that he is “just on a diet.” I used to work for the US Pharmacopoeia and learned even more about off-label use of
many drugs. Thanks for letting me comment. Best to all.
Great topic ideas!
I am so sorry matters have come to a head like this but I feel we may have the answer in our own hands.
I haven't posted for a while because, like others, I became fed up with all the rows and insults flying around. However, if we cut off their supply of oxygen, they won't achieve anything.
Mind you, this would have to be a concerted effort between all of us - no-one to rise to the bait, no answering back, not even any acknowledgement that they even exist.
Yes, it will be hard but that, I think, will be the only way to make them ease up or stop.
It may make things a bit easier if we all have to have an avatar - no avatar, no posting. This would mean that every poster would have to learn how to get an avatar but I think it would be beneficial in the long run. At least, we would immediately know which posts to boycott.
One poster was very snarky with me one time and, since then, I have not bothered to read, or respond to, a single one of their posts, no matter whether they are giving information or asking a question - drastic, but it works for me.
For the record, I voted to stay as we are.
I sincerely hope that things get much easier for you, Nutty.
So far there is always somebody responding to emotional posts, and not always in a nice way. This only stirs things up further. I guess this leaves access moderation.
I am not criticising anybody, just saying what I saw. If the blog stays here there will be fighting episodes again.
Can we be wise enough to ignore troublesome posts? Perhaps if we all agree to ignore them and only respond to meaningful messages it could work.
Sorry don't mean lecturing or offending anybody.
If these disruptive posts are the result of dirty dealing by You-Know-Who, it's all the more important for us to exercise our right of free speech under the law, being careful to state when statements are allegations/speculations/opinions.
If the disruption continues, it will be confirmation that we are on the right track in our search for the truth.
God Save the Queen!
That's a really nice photo of Hazza & MM on the poll.
I agree - ignore and don't feed the trolls. It is always a few that ruin things for the majority. Sad but true.
I also think some people might have left the blog, or at least stop posting, for personal reasons. Emerald palace (name?) had interesting info but left a while back and nothing to do with the current sutuation. People come and go and I think that is what it is.
I don't post much as there are so many that convey what I'm thinking so much better than I. I also have an old wonky tablet that has a temperamental keyboard. I refuse to use IPhones any longer much to the chagrin of many of my family&friends.
I do look forward to upcoming posts as things are getting very interesting. Nutty has provided an oasis for us here so lets keep calm and carry on
I've got a Disqus account for other forums and can easily just join in the discussion. I've never had problems with it.
I've also got a WordPress account and again can easily just join in the discussion on that platform. Again, as with Disqus I've never had problems with it.
We can stay here and plod on, and I'm alright with that, I just scroll thru the bots, the negative comments, the posters that pick fights and ignore them. I know they're a pain the tail but in the final analysis, you have to moderate it and administer it.
Your call Nutty, I'm good with any platform you decide on. I'm just here for the Harkle snark and good, funny, insightful, intelligent and lovely people that keep this blog enjoyable.
God Save the Queen!
God Save the Queen
You summed it up. We shouldn't feed the trolls.
Unfortunately it still leaves Nutty with unwanted moderation job. It would be a good help to her if we reduce the load by ignoring unpleasant comments.
After all the vast majority here are great, fun, intelligent people. I am sure we can ignore one or two who cause trouble.
I think in all my time here I only saw nasty posts from three people max.
Thank you all for your insight; I appreciate seeing your comments. If the negative poster(s) cause this site to go away, I would just be gutted. I support whatever format is best for Nutty and the commenters. Best wishes to you all.
-AnnieC (sorry If I show up as “unknown”)
If only they had lived up to what it seemed to be promising - even if it meant them having to act their socks off, so to speak..
"Katy"
I haven’t been here nearly as much as I used to, but I have no intention of leaving.
My suspicion is that for every unknown you ban, 5 more will pop up. I don’t necessarily think they are paid (though it is certainly possible). I think they are obsessive types who will just register more times under more names.
So it will turn into “unknown whack a mole”
But in the end, I vote for whatever makes it easier for you.
Thank you, Nutty.
I scroll past the troublesome comments. I dislike that the person posted at Lipstick Alley to try to stir up people there with negative comments about this blog. (It didn’t work.)
So odd for tatty to give an opinion when it was her that started the trouble in the first place.
Since she asked for opinions of the change at CDAN, I will say that I've found the comments take a loooong time to load on my Kindle Fire, making it rather frustrating going from one post to another. Once they are loaded, however, I find no difficulty in using the Disqus platform.
I do not like the CDAN site after the move but for me, it's because of the dozens of ads on each refresh of a page and again when you go to read the comments. The ads slow everything down and are far more distracting than a couple of unbalanced or emotionally stunted posters. It is nice that you can follow the 'conversation' though.
What worries me far more is the idea of this blog/you/us being targeted. I've not commented often but faithfully read and have learned so much from so many lovely people here!
Ultimately, you do what is best for you. We will adjust.
It's been my observation that certain bloggers get into spats with others, sometimes they leave when they don't get their needs met e.g. having heir political views validated or need for attention and validation satisfied. Sometimes they continue, it's best not to engage them IMO.
If I recall Elle just started new job and her attention may be elsewhere. Bloggers come and go.
Judged on her appearance? What role if any did JH have in this
progression? I still think Charles garden party exit was a turning point for her. But I would appreciate other posters insights.
I know that clothing serves many functions but not sure how to analyze mm’s dubious approach?
The exchange between Hikari and tattie was an example of how mature people handle disagreements.There are other bloggers here too numerous to mention who show respect for others despite their different opinions on the degree of MM's deceptions.
I don't think the trouble maker is paid. I think they are just a bored crazy who likes attention.
Yes I know and so do I, tis why I said Disqus didn’t work for me. I set-up two accounts and I couldn’t get my comments to show on either. Unsure if it’s a phone thing or not.
She refused absolutely, `I am going to wash it up!', she announced grandly.
She did so and also took everything on the worktop that could be washed up and started on the lot, as slowly as possible, despite my frustration and protestations, and wasting her time and mine. No observer would have realised we were in my kitchen!
It made me think of Obstructive Disobedience Disorder, as found in children (`tell 'em not to do something so they go ahead and do it').
I took it to be a manifestation of `Nobody Tells Me What To Do', a narcissists' First Article of Belief. Not for nothing is the disorder's acronym ODD.
Is this the root of MM's refusal to take advice?
I agree, sometimes people want a break, they suffer from Sussex fatigue, so many reasons. I was a reader and a lurker for some months before I commented, even now I don’t comment on every post. Nothing wrong with taking a break or leaving, we shouldn’t assume Bloggers have been chased off. IMHO. ;o)
E.g. If you were to click to my disqus account...you would also be able to see every comment I had made on CDAN. I actually use another disqus account for comments on political platforms so...
plus - I do like being able to upvote and downvote - as it lets other users know how everyone feels about the comment.
That said...whatever nutty feels is right for her...it's her blog, I just visit.
You are right, and I apologize. A person may be lonely or have other issues. I lost my temper this morning and vented. I don't do that often.
Not feedings the trolls is the way to go. If we set up other accounts, either the trolls will amuse themselves by infiltrating with new IDs. If we go private, we won't have new posters and that would be a shame.
We can't let them chase is away. If Nutty doesn't mind the cleanup, no interaction will eventually get boring for the trolls.
Long time no see, or am I mistaken? In any event it's nice to see you. And I'm always looking for a "like" button here.
We might need a "love" button.
And @Magatha, our Poet Laureate (or Harriet?)
Thank you. You always make me grin.
You are a decent person and there is nothing to apologize for on your part. It took me a while to realize some people may not have a destructive agenda but feel insecure and vulnerable instead and it makes them lash out. It is painful to watch.
The best thing we can do is continue constructive dialogue and ignore the emotional posts entirely.
I will say again how your avatar makes me smile every time I see it! You did a good job choosing.
Newbie rolls in and feeds Cats some virtual canned tuna fish. Newbie does not know the situation here so she feeds Cats. Makes Cats smiley happy because her existence got acknowledged for that hour, that day.
Nutty knows the email for Elle? I think. Ask Elle.
You make a valid point re new people not knowing. Perhaps Nutty could put something like the rules for posters? No personal attacks, no swearing at people, no politics etc? As a permanent heading for the blog? It may help in case of escalation.
But I suppose to enforce something like this Nutty would need a tool of restricting access for "repeat offenders".
Without restriction the blog will continue relying on her moderation and the goodwill of the posters.
And for those who falsely claim you only tried to help me, you know that isn't true, because I have an excellent memory and you piled on after Elle and as you are doing now with 'xxxx' and 'Unknown'
"Nested comments" allow responses to a post to appear directly under that post. On the present blog, all the comments are listed in chronological order, but on Disqus, for example, a comment and all its replies will be grouped together, no matter when they are posted.
But Nutty immediately deleted the ToS when I posted them and she deletes every mention of them them.
It is far less time consuming to use the current platform and enforce the ToS as Google demands by their agreement; but that doesn't happen here.
But I say Nutties, go ahead and vote to let 'xxxx' and 'Unknown' control the narrative because the prevailing opinion is you like their style, words and actions, so vote to endorse them. Enjoy how they treat people, because after me it will be someone else.
Give Google's Terms of Service a big FU since you want 'xxxx' (the avowed Elle protégé) to rule the day. Forget freedom of speech, you only have to keep 'xxxx' happy because Nutty can't even control 'xxxx'.
You're gracious to take a poll. Not something you would have had to do.
So many posts are so very interesting. I love seeing what other people speculate is going on compared to what happens later, or comes out later as the truth. I enjoy trying to understand the psychology behind it all. Posters here have brought up ideas I wouldn't have thought of on my own.
I'm fairly new so don't know the whole history of this blog. At first I thought person was just weird and best to ignore. But now that I see others deliberately provoking (and getting a great reaction) I gotta wonder if you're correct that it's paid havoc. All staged, much like mm.
This format is nice, easy to read and follow. But if you prefer another format that's perfectly fine, too. Thanks for offering us this blog!
And I hate Disqus - haven’t read CDAN since Enty switched.
CDAN has probably picked the worst/ugliest Disqus option and against that black UFO-Area51 background Enty favors. This is not how Disqus has to be (look like) because I have seen it in many elsewheres/on a white background/ and looking better/ very presentable and user friendly for all lovely Nutties.
As for the trouble makers... I don't think the 2 I'm thinking of are paid. They are just miserable individuals. When one came after me I just rolled my eyes and put them on mental ignore, scroll, scroll, scroll... even when they later tried to engage with me.
I moderate a live chat. If nutties are anything like my chatters, they will police themselves with little actual moderation needed.
So I say. vote for 'xxx' because you Nutties have come to enjoy 'xxxx'. I think 'xxxx' and 'Unknown' should get the job of Moderators and turn this blog into exactly what they want.
FairyCrocodile; Are you kidding me?!
No personal attacks??? Have you seen what
xxxxx write to CatEyes? Or are you asleep at that time? When cateyes is writing something calm and normal xxxxx is there to pick on her.Pushing her buttons and when she responds she calls her crazy. Xxxxx is bullying her.
Some people are not able to scroll past things they dont like and wait for nutty to wake up and delete because you love to fight. You dont behave like grown ups.
I don't usually check in before moderation is done, so granted I miss a lot of what is going on.
Judging by the recent exchanges we have had a lot of nasty comments deleted. Sad that people waste energy on negative emotions. There is no benefit to anybody in them.
That is why I think some sort of common rule we all sign up to is necessary. Perhaps I am too optimistic but as Lurking says our little community can self-moderate.
I am almost afraid to thank you because it might bring 'xxxx' wrath on you. I have tears right now because of your ability to see things for what they are. God Bless You so much! I deeply apologize in advance if me commenting on me causes you a problem!!!
Yes, wonderful idea, people can email Elle through Nutty because not long ago (maybe a couple of months) Nutty gave out her email online to Elle and I saw it (but didn't need it or dare email Nutty). But posters here could email Nutty and Elle can get in contact with who she wants.
If everyone would just flat ignore posts or posters they don't care for, that would solve the issue.
Remember that some of these multiple posters arguing are one poster with multiple pages open on their browser, going back and forth, arguing with themselves, to appear as multiple posters just to stir things up.
i belong to another forum and at the bottom it says it is createaforum.com I believe the moderator can ban users if they get out of line. You can also create different categories and it tells you which categories have new posts. the problem is gifs and if Nutty could create a category where gifs are NOT allowed, only comments that would be good.
I guess i don't mind "signing up & logging in with a passowrd" but i do not want to download an app.
If anyone is unhappy here, they should find another blog where they will be happy. I don't understand what hanging around where you are unhappy gains anyone.
Non-engagement is going to have to be adhered to by everyone. We have to agree to no feeding the trolls and no tweaking the trolls. Otherwise everyone else is held hostage while a few posters hijack the thread.
Thank you, m'dear
royalgossip.forumprofi.de
It is a membership site but anyone can view the posts. The moderator is very, very strict (kudos to her) and does not allow the smallest amount of snark among members. Although it might seem like a lot of time for the moderator it isn't really because she can severely limit members (and has done so) and posters automatically don't act out because they don't want to be kicked off, they value the site so much, and they respect each other despite people's 180 degree opposite opinions.
Not everyone will agree with a comment and a healthy mature discussion is all that's needed, then you move on.
Nutty, if you do decide to move, hopefully some of the tech savvy posters will give instructions to this not a clue what I'm doing woman lol x
However I would like to see an end to using 'Unknown' or 'xxxx' as names as it's confusing when there's several around. It would be great if people could choose different names and go with that. I don't see how that compromises anonymity in the setup we have at the moment, but am happy to stand corrected if necessary. I'm not particularly IT-minded.
@AliceFrance - thank you so much for your kind words. I put a lot of thought into this blog, as many Nutties do, and have really enjoyed recent discussions about the wider royal family. I think we have scope to do that while H&M are just treading water and we're waiting for Lady C's book to come out. Then we'll all have SO MUCH to discuss. Can't wait.
If it stays ugly on here for the moment, I'll take a break and come back for the book. I've already said I won't respond to the feline one directly any more.
Guess I've just been guilty of that. You're absolutely correct. I'm not deleting my last comment though. I think it probably IS time for me to take a break.
Please!
I did not have you in mind at all.
That would be a terrible loss.
Me too! Just found it myself.
So exciting!
the latest truce lasted oh about eight seconds, next step would be for her to put comments on moderation at night which is basically 3pm my time, and yours?
it does disrupt conversation but so does the incessant whining and bickering
regardless I think you, @cat owe nutty an apology. you trashed this blog over at lipstick alley and if that wasn't enough you went on and published her email address. not entirely sure why you continue to frequent here when you have such little respect for the owner of the blog. not trying to pick a fight just stating my opinion, I welcome yours
I'm a regular lurker here and enjoy reading the blog for the most part, but the fighting is getting to be an issue. I'd prefer to not have to read it. That said, disqus is a pain in the butt to read. I think I'd prefer Wordpress to the options listed above.
As for Disqus, I find it to be quite slow loading and frustrating at times but that may be because I use it to comment on the mega blogs. I *really* like the ability to block trolls on Disqus so that I don't have to waste time scrolling.
When I actively managed blogs, I creatively "edited" the comments of the disruptively rude because it amused me. I do not think that Nutty has the same sense of humor as I do, so she probably wouldn't stoop to do that. (Nutty's note to self: Do NOT use SwampWoman as a moderator.)
I didn't vote. I can use Disqus, Wordpress, or ignore. I think Nutty should use whatever means that she desires in order to maintain her desired amount of decorum and to make it easy for herself. I do think that the intent is to disrupt Nutty's blog for whatever reason.
I'm not intimidated by crazy, y'all. I'm dang sure not intimidated by somebody like my late neighbor that would be out in the yard with her watering hose watering her flowers in her underpants (and nothing else) in the early morning when the school bus came by, bless her heart, and those poor traumatized school children. The family finally had to place her in an Alzheimer unit because her poor husband, older than she, could not keep up with her escapes as she would sneak out when he went to sleep in exhaustion and walk the neighborhood au naturel looking for flowers to water. (We kept the gate locked.)
If people want to keep the comments as is, I may occasionally respond to crazy ranting comments with "Bless your heart. Don't you have some flowers to water?" (J/K. I won't have time to be all ugly or the time to waste until after hurricane season. Probably.)
And speaking of crazy, it is crazy busy at our place as we're getting ready for the hurricane season, remodeling the house, planting, harvesting, and getting back to business in the time of a pandemic. The supply chain is still screwed and getting parts for some projects, well, they seem to be made of unobtanium. I expect the rest of y'all are crazy busy as well.
I don't have a lot of time to worry about the escapades of a never-was actress that says she kicked being a royal to the curb (I suspect they were both invited to leave). I check in ever so often to see if anything has changed or if there's been any sign of intelligent life from Harry.
Very often the most priceless information comes from - guess what - royal official sites. That is how we know that Harry is a special type of hypocrite, a rarely seen enormous and shameless one.
Why? Not only he never dropped his place in succession, because of his place in succession he remains one of the four Counsellors of State, two of which are to be appointed to perform Queen's duties in case of her illness.
Despite calling the Royal family and the whole nation toxic Harry is happy to be a part of both. He is leaving the royal fold with much pathos and simultaneously staying in it. A Schrodinger's Harry, quantum Harry.
We need this blog for the people to be able to openly say what they think of individuals like Harry.
Nutty, I really think you should make the call. It is your blog and your life that is being most affected by this/these miscreants. Do what is in your best interests. And thank you for all the time and effort you expend to create this oasis of mostly good natured camaraderie. It has meant a great deal to me as I try and navigate this challenging and lonely time.
@Raspberry Ruffle
Many thanks for your advice about my technical issue. I’m still not sure why it rears its head occasionally but I suspect you are correct in thinking it is a glitch with IOS.
Wow, I have missed you! Welcome back!
Loved the story of your neighbour watering her garden in her knickers! Lol Poor traumatised children indeedy! Lol Laugh of the day! ;o)
Hilarious! LOL
Good to see you again. I so miss your brilliant humour on here!
Here we go again, 'AvaC' and 'lucy' prove my point (what I have been saying all along) and other people's point, they want to poke at me over and over and over ('lucy' you have been at it for months now) and verbally bashing me and expecting I should take their abuse without doing anything. I did not initiate contact with them; they obviously are trying to foment hate against me and injure me as a disabled person (as I put them on notice). I am sitting here minding my own business and these two women just wantonly attack me.
Google you know by the posts I have asked these two in particular, to leave me alone and they won't. I already called and spoke with your representative, Ariel, and told her these actions are threatening my very life because of my medical conditions. But as you can see Google, they have 'depraved indifference'.
for anyone else here, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE (for the umpteenth time) and Nutty, I AM RQUESTING YOU TELL THEM (and 'xxxx' and 'Unknown' et al) TO LEAVE ME ALONE!
Copy saved and emailed for documentation purposes.
Wordpress has been very good for me to use as a diary, updating every day. Even today and yesterday. You opt for private and invisible to internet searches. Do this on a computer and not a dumb-ass Smart phone.
Wordpress blog can be 100% free but they make this more difficult to find each year. You must be persistent and scope the fine print to get *free* which was not the case 10 years ago. Free was lots easier back then.
Florida box said from Plant City
California one said from Corona California
Thank you sincerely for the blog, and your efforts.
The most powerful thing we can do is simply ignore disruptors, stop responding to them, talking about them and giving them attention.
They are unimportant.
>>>We need this blog for the people to be able to openly say what they think of individuals like Harry.<<<
Well I guess you and I are on the same page! It was 'xxxx' who is setting the stage for censorship using a site like WordPress, not me. If you somehow think I used the royalgossipforum site as an example to stifle comments on the HAMS that is certainly not the case. I complimented the royalgossipforum blog Moderator (her name is 'Yooper') because she definitely allows freedom of speech about the HAMS and other royals but does not allow posters to fling mud at one another as happens here.
Anyone who remembers my posts over the almost two years knows I have opinions quite in line with others regarding Meghan and Harry and the BRF in general. I just happen to voice my caution about stating "Harry is a known drug user" or "Archie has a full wet diaper" and thus is a victim of child abuse etc. because I don't like to see things like that which I might consider libel [a reputation is easy to destroy by reckless people online.]
That said, this blog has become unreadable due to the constant, nuclear-level meltdowns of one person and the intentional provocations by a few others.
I voted for WordPress. Blocking IPs is a fabulous tool and the only sure-fire way to permanently stop the drama. We have a right to free speech. Nutty is not obligated to provide the platform.
Thanks for the laugh!! Your story reminded me of when I was a kid in the 60s. The 14 year-old daughter of our neighbor’s was a budding flower child. One day she and her boyfriend were walking hand in hand and buck naked down the road (probably stoned), and when the milkman (we still had delivery back then)—a guy named Jerry with a buzz cut and a paunch—saw them he drove off the road and crashed into a tree. He was okay but his cargo of Golden Guernsey in glass bottles didn’t fare so well.
I used to moderate on a forum many years ago and one of the problems we had with disruptive posters was that blocking them didn't always solve the problem. They simply come back using a proxy.
As Nutty said:Your IP doesn't reveal your identity, just your location. For example, on the IP I'm working on right now, there are more than 10,000 users. They're all in Estonia, however, so anyone who found the IP address would know that's where I lived.
By blocking an IP address such as in the above scenario, you can end up blocking an innocent poster! (which happened a few times on our forum)
I don’t want to see this blog go private, I like that this is a place for newcomers to validate what they are feeling and thinking regarding the Farkles and I think it counters the crazy out there, and gives intelligent push back to the narrative the Farkles have tried to fabricate.
The tea that has been spilled here by insiders in the know wouldn’t have happened if this were a private group, but I don’t want to see anybody be doxxed or compromised if we move to a less private format - we need to protect our ability to continue speak out against the massive Sussex travesty.
I, like Elle, do believe MM, certain members of the press and probably other members of the RF read this blog, and I think protecting it’s administrator and contributors is paramount.
To the few that do, here's an idea ~ do as much work as @Nutty has and start your OWN blog and set your own rules. You do not have the right to make your issues the issues of other people.
Good point about the succession and Counsellors of State positions. Many here called it - Harry wants all of the privileges and none of the hard work.
PR is an amazing thing.
MM & H also seem to want to compete against W&K with their own mental health initiatives. It won't end well for them. Oprah might support them for now but for how long? After his speech last year at Well Child's Ceremony - either laughing or crying , was when I first twigged to H's erratic behaviour.
Didn't he mention soon after that he had been in counselling for 10 years? I really hope for H that he considers other options and not listen to MM. I can only wish he can get better and get real help.
I vote for whatever makes Nutty's life easy. There are some or maybe just one nasty poster with multiple names, hellbent on sowing discord here. Paid bot or delusional indivdual, who knows? But like some others have suggested, we can ignore them. If A posts and B pipes up attacking A, ignore. If C chimes in supporting either, again ignore. It could be the same person using this ploy to lure others into the 'fight.' Personally, i just don't read any post from you all know who. And if a new poster's voice seems shrill and divisive, I move on. I only read posts from names that I know will comment sanely and funnily.
Anyway, whatever Nutty ultimately decides I will abide by that. Her blog, her rules.
This is my first comment and I’m really sad that it’s down to a few people that Nutty is having to consider changing platforms. I like Nutty’s blog because I find a lot of alternative blogs difficult to follow and the GIFs get pretty annoying.... but as I’m happy to support Nutty with whatever is decided - I shall be following regardless.
Nutty, I love the blog and (almost) everyone’s comments!
>>>"....lot of "unknown" posts yet you have left numerous ones from cateyes calling people stupid....:<<<
Too bad you didn't accurately report I said if these posters didn't "leave me alone" I was going to respond in kind to a point (my quote). Also omitted, I had previously offered an olive branch for these abusers to stop but they persisted to stalk and abuse me every day since. Yep, you are another one blaming the victim.
Guess you are the type that if someone verbally abuses you over and over you choose to crumple into a pile of watery sh*t and stay defeated. My war hero Father did not lay his life on the line for weaklings to tell me how to be a victim.
Oh and for those who praise Nutty for her fairness and kindness, late last night someone commended me for having a lot of veterans who fought in the various Wars/armed conflicts for freedom (and I only went back 4 generations) and Nutty within minutes deleted her comment and my Thanks for the Memorial day compliment to my family members!! Truth is stranger than fiction here.
out of absolute respect for Nutty I pledge going forward never to engage our resident pussy ever again and I hope xxxxx you join me as well ,as well as all who post
she kinda mirrors MM in a way. you pity her, you cringe for her and maybe even feel touch sorry for her and then you realize she is such a collosal jerk that any sympathies turn to anger
just a refresher to all who may have missed this. keep in mind she never apologized ,continues to post here and continues to incite shit DAILY
perhaps I was wrong, maybe you don't owe nutty an apology, you owe one to yourself
disgusting
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/have-you-been-bullid-for-defending-meghan.3411557/
@SarcasticBimbo
Please not to mention VPNs again. The Bravo browser also has very good built in ad blocker. DM is difficult to load without ad blocker on a computer. This must be 10x worse on a Phone. I see some complaints from Apple-Safari users. Why on God's green earth are you so committed to Safari? Try some other browsers. In order of usefulness I would install to try out --
Bravo
Chrome
Opera
Firefox
@xxxxx
Please don't tell me what to do. The only reason I mentioned VPNs is because Nutty mentioned them herself when she was laying out all the options in the poll. I merely wanted to pass on the info that the Opera browser has a VPN and a good ad blocker included for free.
I generally have two browsers open on my computer. If I want to copy and paste a link I know won't open in the Opera browser because of the ad blocker, I open them in Chrome. Also, some US links won't open for me in Opera because they won't work in a European country. I live in South Dakota, but the VPN in the Opera browser shows my IP address as being in Sweden so I have to use Chrome to get into certain US sites.
https://www.netgalley.com/catalog/book/193855
Rut = Cat Eyes
PS Everyone LOVES Elle
come be with us Elle! I will even gift you great avatar 😛
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I'd seen mention of that other stuff but had never investigated. Happened to have some time today so went dumpster diving.
Hmmpphh. Puts a whole different light on the topic, doesn't it. Any inclination I had to cut a little slack just vaporized into the atmosphere.
Yes, free speech and all. Not free of consequences. One consequence of that kind of behavior is that all of your posts are deleted.
Also, FIRST LEAK from ‘Finding Freedom’ on DM, saying that it was Harry’s idea to leave, she kept asking him if he was sure, and he hates the term ‘Megxit’. Here we go.... (Article also mentions that while they were celebrating their anniversary, they called many vendors from their wedding to relive the day. Mmmhmm. Because everybody does that, right?)
(Sorry, but I’m not able to link the article.)
disqus didn’t work for me at CDAN. once it changed, i tried commenting a few times and none of them went thru. i’ve not been back to CDAN since.
I also had trouble with BG, my few comments never show up, so i stopped going there.
i have more time now, and spend less on gossip websites, so i guss thats a good thing :)
my vote is keep it as is and let people scroll by others that annoy them.
if people continully feed the trolls or strays they won’t go away. so maybe the people who feed them actually like the strays?
That said...I am frustrated by the constant rants of a few. I find myself not reading to avoid the drama lamas. I’m not a techie (picture me banging on the keyboard when the computer does not read my mind).
How do I avoid the drama? Can I block posters on my personal account? I think I remember a poster (forgot who, sorry) saying one can block if logged into blogger. I have gone through the process of establishing an account with this in mind. How do I do it? I’ll try to bang my way through the online help.
I must say it’s a pity. All posters have given unique and interesting insights. Each could continue contributing to the blog.
Birdie (in case I am still an unknown)
I think I have the link
Prince Harry Blah Blah Blah
What a ridiculous article; trying to shift Megxit on him so he can look like the Knight in Tarnished Armor.
XXXXX, I went to the local grocery story today for two items, strawberries and sour cherry juice for SwampMan's toe. $75.00 later, I came out with NO strawberries. There was nothing in the store besides frozen. I would LOVE to have some Plant City strawberries; I'd be a little leery of any Corona strawberries at the moment (grin).
i am grateful for your blog. whatever makes Life easier for you and prolongs the Life of NuttyFlavor is fine with me.
My only complaint is the length of some of the threads. After 300 entries, everything starts to blend together.
I too have been off Enty. After @Himmmm passed, and the Twitter site was shut, it just is not the same.
I think you should do what is best for you, whichever is most convenient so you can continue writing.
Remove access from your Blogger blog:
Quoting:
“ Remove access to your blog
“If you don't want someone to have access to your blog anymore, you can remove their access.
“Sign in to Blogger.
“In the top left, click the Down arrow Down arrow.
“Select the blog to update.
“In the left menu, click Settings and then Basic.
“Under "Permissions," find "Blog Readers" and click Edit and then Private - Only these readers.
“Next to the name of the person you want to remove, click Remove Remove.“
Source: https://support.google.com/blogger/answer/42673?hl=en
I had a Blogger blog for 5 years, but I never had a problem. I have not personally removed anyone’s access.
Thank you, Nutty, for the blog, and all the time you spend to make it a nice place to be.
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/have-you-been-bullid-for-defending-meghan.3411557/
Wow!!! Someone needs mental health services.
Whatever Nutty wants, Nutty should get!
new people will come and she will engage them and so be it. she can't hide her crazy, or every one of her posts should be instantly deleted sight unseen. regardless she becomes invisible to me after this post
Wordpress, now, I DO know, and have built several blogs on it. It too is not a monolith and is highly customizable. Those of you who fear you will need instruction, or "have to join" -- no. You just register as a commenter, and get accepted. There is no learning curve. Moderation on it is easy to do (or to turn off)--although there the idea of volunteer mods might come in.
I voted for Wordpress based on this experience. But mainly I just want to assure those of you who proclaim yourself to be not technically savvy--no savvy is needed. If you've ever joined an email group or bought something online, you can do this!
And I'll add my name to those who are thanking Nutty and expressing regret that she has to be burdened with this worry and extra work.
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I have to admit, I actually find some of the unhinged rants quite entertaining. I can bust out my armchair DSM IV and try to figure out where the ranter(s) fit in. Much like the good old days on CDAN, there was some rapper dude who used to post the most profane, irrelevant shiz but was often quite funny. And the epic takedowns of Derek Harvey by Tricia and California Blondie.
CDAN went to disqus due to three unhinged? Nutty has only one. And this canned tuna fish addict gives up bile and no humor. And should be off tending her imaginary livestock.
>>>
Cat Eyes = Rut
Rut = Cat Eyes
PS Everyone LOVES Elle<<<<
No, I am not 'Rut' nor do I know this poster whatsoever. You are grasping at straws as usual.
Well if 'Elle' loves you she has a funny way of showing it or more correctly. a way of ignoring you. Lol. Where are her pontificating posts for her minions? Guess the well ran dry or maybe she doesn't think you are worth the effort. Actions speak louder than words and no words say absolutely nothing, nada, zilch a big 'nothingburger' to quote tatty's phrase. She is not doing a damn thing for ya'll. How telling!!
back in the day i used to post on a soap opera message board.
what a bunch of drama queens. it ended up being more entertaining than the soaps!
we had the typical unhinged crazies like the trolls and strays here, and the needy, narc, had to be the most loved types, and the pot stirrers, etc.
and then facebook became popular, and people moved on, and the soaps mostly got cancelled.
been there, done that, and now i just scroll by. im not intersted in the commenters dramas, im only interested in the Harkles screw-ups.
Firstly, kudos to Nutty for keeping this blog going. You do a brilliant job engaging your supporters and keeping your blog interesting and informative.
I don't comment here often but may I suggest you turn off/stop accepting comments when you are in bed if your poll result and posters here show a preference for the current format?
That would allow you to moderate and delete inappropriate comments when they pop up while you are awake.
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6384787764455104958&postID=1651295946267646353&page=2&token=1590285680746
Here is a site that discusses disruptive behaviour disorders in children, but I found it so apt! Check out these descriptions:
Children with oppositional defiant disorder often lose their temper. They are quick to argue with adults over rules or requests. They are likely to:
* Be uncooperative
* Argue, even about small and unimportant things
* Refuse to follow rules
* Deliberately annoy others, and become easily annoyed by other people
* Blame others for their mistakes or misbehaviour
* Behave in angry, resentful, spiteful, and vindictive ways
https://www.nationwidechildrens.org/conditions/disruptive-behavior-disorders
I didn't forget you from months ago. Too bad but I have a decent memory and besides like Hikari suggests, I do document things here
I see why you people are complaining about me because you are trying to scare me away because you are afraid of the legal consequences of your behavior. You have only yourself to blame for what you said and did to me.
Just like today, the ones that I have called out is because you initiated the contact with me or by criticizing me. All I wanted to do was vote but you people could not stop your bullying tendencies or unfair criticism (some of you spoke without knowing of the facts and said shit that wasn't true or was patently unfair).
If you have an opinion about me and voice it then I have the same constitutional right to express my opinion on you. When I was litigating one day in court, a Judge once said "the Train runs both ways on the track."
And definitely you might want to ponder the famous quote by Eleanor Roosevelt:
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events and small minds discuss people".