Several books about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have either been newly published or are about to be published.
I haven't had a chance to read anything but the excerpts in the Daily Mail so far -- big reveals include that the Sussexes spent nearly $5000 on numerology sessions and that Doria received an allowance from Meghan and Harry.
Let's discuss the excerpts and the books themselves in this space.
I haven't had a chance to read anything but the excerpts in the Daily Mail so far -- big reveals include that the Sussexes spent nearly $5000 on numerology sessions and that Doria received an allowance from Meghan and Harry.
Let's discuss the excerpts and the books themselves in this space.
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I checked and the newest book is not available on hoopla for my card. Darn it. I would be willing to deal with the hassle of ebook to read it. I will try again in a day or two.
"I just want to know why Doria got an allowance. What "work" does she do that warrants that?"
@Girl with a Hat wrote:
"whose money was Doria getting as an allowance? Harry's private money or taxpayer?"
I'd like to know the answers to those questions too. I wouldn't doubt that M claimed to H she'd been supporting Doria. While M may have given her money once she was earning some, I doubt that's it's true she was supporting her. But M could have easily convinced DimWit that she couldn't possibly give up her oh-so-successful career and marry him unless Doria was taken care of.
So far as the source of the money goes, as with many other expenses of H&M's, the problem is money is fungible. So if Harry pays Doria with his own funds, then he has no money to say, repay the Frog Cott work. Or no money to pay for security. It's kind of the same so far as Charles purportedly paying their expenses "out of his own pocket." Yeah, ok but that means he needs to raise Duchy rents to compensate.
That idea doesn't seem so odd to me, but if it has been ongoing then I would be very upset!
You're sweet but that doesn't explain how Doria could afford to quit her job right before the wedding (a job she had for 2-3 years at most). She is too young for American social security and never worked at a job long enough for a pension and never (visibly) earned enough for a nice retirement. She may own the house outright but property taxes a re high in LA--very high and she must pay. She also needs to pay utilities and buy groceries, insurance, etc. Yes she appears to have a partner or roommate but any roommate rent would not cover the above mentioned expenses.
My guess is she is being paid to front a secret account and/or be trotted out when the optics require her.
I’ve pre-ordered Robert Lacey’s book, Battle of Brothers: William and Harry – the Friendship and the Feuds. He’s written loads of books on the royals and his books are always excellent and well researched.
Oops I forgot to tick follow-ups via email! :o/
I haven't received my book yet, but as it only shipped two days ago, I did not expect it so soon. I got another item from Book Depository within 7-10 days of the order, which seemed really fast, but another book ordered at the same time (an old title) has yet to materialize. I am hoping they are sending it with the new book. If I don't receive anything in two weeks, I will contact them, but for now I'm not worried. Yet.
But here's a funny thing that I just read. They are discussing the queen's economical ways (this after a paragraph on the royal women's clothing expenditures), repeating that story we've all heard that she keeps her cereal in Tupperware (like, who doesn't? That's just to keep it fresh, not keep it forever, like an investment). Anyway, this sentence: "What's more, the Queen hates excessive jewelry and dislikes people standing on ceremony." So here's why I'm laughing: I know those gaudy jewelry sets (parures?) are not her personal taste and in some cases not personal possessions, but to me those match-matchy, multi-carat tiara, necklace, earring, and bracelet combos are hideous. I said "to me" -- others may disagree. I do know the purpose is to show off wealth, not for beauty or, I guess, "wardrobe" reasons, but I do pity the women when they have to wear those, and often with the sashes, ornaments, awards and ribbons that go with formal dress.
I do remember that she was not a fan of the ring Diana chose (reportedly she just went for the biggest stone) and I do pity Kate for being saddled with that. So it's probably true that she doesn't go for excessive jewelry in her private life (watch and wedding ring?). The sentence just struck me as funny.
I will sit back and let everyone argue with me : )
But also! So do know that I'm reading this particular book and that I am happy to answer questions about it, As I said, my main takeaway so far is that none of it will be news to any of us.
insulting Kate at Wimbledon Twitter.
That is gone too far.
https://sally1029.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/queen-elizabeth22.jpg
It's ironic because there's a saying that a woman under 40 doesn't need diamonds to make her beauty come out.
The numerology cost is stunning. And going by the mess they are in, money down the drain.
@Teasmade, that's what I gleaned from the sample on Kindle. Not a lot of new stuff. I think this site and others like Plant, Queen TT and others have excellent info!
@Teasmade:
I think Kate is lucky to have that beautiful sapphire and diamond ring. It is not ostentatious IMO.
I think Meghan was feeding her money through her merching. Also wanted it to be hidden in case of divorce.
I agree, especially with the hiding assets in case of divorce.
EXCERPT:
Also, as an American commoner unaccustomed to being waited on hand and foot by servants, she was often imperious to the help.
The book was excerpted in The Daily Mail.
‘Kate was horrified when Meghan shouted at a member of Kate’s staff — that was definitely the beginning of discussions about leaving Kensington Palace,’ the former servant continues. ‘Like many people not used to dealing with servants, Meghan overdoes the imperiousness; so on the one hand she wants to be like Diana, a people’s princess, and on the other she wants people to stand to attention when she clicks her fingers.’
(it's horrible because Just Harry comes from a world in which people become attached to their former nannies, that as adults when they start have children of Their Own, some of them make their childhood nannies the godparents of their own children. people will become so attached to their housestaff, they consider them family. My family is still in touch with our former nannies/chauffeurs, etc. in that way too. Just like I still send my first two bosses🇬🇧🇳🇿 after I graduated uni holiday greetings every year because I'm still grateful they opened so many doors for me. 🙇🏻♀️🐈💜)
@Mistral said...
Wow, "Royals at War" seems to be more explosive than Lady C's book. I'm too cheap to buy it but I will try to read as much as is available.
Almost $5k for numerology "classes"? Jeez, you can teach yourself tarot or astrology for free, if you're willing to invest the time.
I was just going to say the same thing!!
You can learn numerology for FREE just by Googling stuff & master it in 12 days 🤷🏻♀️🐈💜💜
It's just basic maths, really. 🍹
Unlike tarot (which can take years)
Advanced astrology (can take a whole lifetime)
Numerology you can DIY. For free.
Even if you're lazy there are free numerology calculators online.
12-week course of numerology readings costing $4835
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Who pays 4k for numerology readings??
It sounds super scammy either way.
Either some numerologist is overcharging them.
Or someone's marking costs up with some creative accounting.
Anyway I'm not trying to be disrespectful toward spiritual people, I learned the hard way that people ask for free readings & take advantage of you at odd hours. Most spiritual people are decent & honest. And I'm all for people setting boundaries so others respect their time, but no numerologiest should charge that much.
@Golden Retriever: Well, it's just a matter of taste isn't it (re the ring). Yours and mine differ, but of course what matters is Kate's! She just seems more sporty and classic, but who knows?? I like M's ring before she messed with it, and Pippa's. <> who knows?
@Girl with Hat: I know, I know! : ) I knew my opinion would be unpopular. But I do see your point -- she's a small woman, and with shrinking with age, they do seem to overpower her more than they used to.
Obviously the Meghan's numerologist knew what to do with numbers because she enriched herself with some good ones like $ 4-8-3-5!
I'll ask comment on CDAN was basically me saying Switzerland, France, and Japan are beautiful countries with good people.
Americans can't even get another country's President right, but God forbid some poor shop Assistant in Swiss doesn't recognise QUEEN OPRAH & close the shop just for her like they're Chanel's a$$-kiss beverly Hills branch... The narcissist projects her own country's racism onto unsuspecting, well-meaning foreigners & gets the Swiss government to apologise to her for an incident/story that doesn't even add up.
I'm sick of everything that's going on in the world right now.
I hope you all have a wonderful life.
Take care & Wear your masks while you're out.
I think I'll come back in August.
happy Canada Day🙏🏼🇨🇦 (except to Justin Trudeau and Jessica Mulroney, who çan both go eff themselves). 🍹🤷🏻♀️🐈💜💜
I am in the same situation as you are with www.bookdepository.com. I pre-ordered the book on June 1 and my credit card was charged. I am getting the same message - I still see my order but it states that the book is unavailable. I am in New York - perhaps there is an issue with overseas shipping? I guess I will have to wait. I have ordered from them before and got the book, but they are slow compared to Amazon. And if you pre-order a book on Amazon, they don't charge your credit card until the book ships, which having worked for an e-commerce company, is the proper way to do it.
I also think that she's not using the latest in medicine/sport physiology to stay limber. Her head forward posture is easily corrected with gentle exercise and it would help her neckline. Her dresses for state dinners feature a decollete but I would see her more in some dramatic asymmetric turtleneck neckline, for example, in a jewel tone.
The white evening gowns she favours for such occasions make her look washed out. She should look to the continental monarchs for hints on how to dress dramatically for her age - especially the queens of Denmark and Norway.
She's an attractive woman for her age but is stuck in a djfferent era when it comes to certain things.
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re: The Queen not dressing well lately...bleeding hell she is 94! I think she still looks fabulous. She loves bright colours and they look really well on her. All in all she is pretty spry for her age. She was out in Windsor Park recently riding her favorite Fell pony. Not bad for a 94 year old.
I may not even finish it. I'm already skimming the parts concerning H, whether describing or quoting him.
I've ordered LCC's book but since I live in Canada, it won't be released until late July. In the meantime, I'm reading excerpts on various blogs. What stands out to me is that MM is very thin-skinned and reacts very badly to even the mildest criticism. When she is called out for inappropriate behavior, such as the wildly extravagant baby shower or the debacle at Wimbledon, she reacts with fury. As far as she concerned, nothing she does is wrong and her critics are way off base.
She also refuses to take advice from anybody, ever, because she is so convinced that she knows better than anyone else. (And she wants to go into politics? Good luck, Megsy).
"should look to the continental monarchs for hints on how to dress dramatically for her age - especially the queens of Denmark and Norway."
I believe the Queens of Norway and Denmark are 82 & 80. For many who manage to live into their 90s, there's a big difference between those ages and 94. Personally I think QEII looks pretty spry and her clothes seem fine to me. Plus she seems quintessentially British to me. Not "continental," it's true.
She started this badly dressed trend in the 70's, IMHO.
And yes, she could take a note of the book of the other queens. The Queen of Denmark was photographed rather recently in a stunning caped gold and black dress.
https://theroyalcorrespondent.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/margretheii.jpg
Her Majesty manages to convey bot a descriptive cutting comment and great control not to go nuclear (even if people around her think now might be the time to go that way).
I havent got the books yet, waiting to see how drunk i will need to be to get through them:)
THAT is something I don’t think any of the books have answered. Doesn’t look like love, he looks miserable and he’s lost his family, friends and life’s work.
Blackmail? What secret would the BRF not cover up for him? Prince Andrew’s escapades and Edward VIII’s Nazi fandom demonstrate they’ll tolerate a lot. Right?
I thought that it was that the Chanel shop girls in Paris wanted to close up and Oprah found that to be insulting. You know how the French are sticklers about not working a minute longer than required.
Sorry you judged all Americans on 1 American's comment. Maybe that's logical in your country. We Americans aren't usually so judgemental in my experience.
Yes, maybe a long break will be good for you. We will enjoy our July 4th with fireworks, BBQ's, and the company of kind people here.
Sandi - that's too funny.
@scandiSanskrit
According to this article Oprah had an in identifying in both Paris and Switzerland.
The Swiss sales clerk apparently didn't recognize her and did not want to show Oprah a $38,000 bag because it was "too expensive" and tried to direct her to cheaper bags.
The Hermes incident was because the store was closing for an event and didn't let her in to make a quick purchase.
So, I'm not sure how either incident demonstrates AMERICAN racism. If anything it shows Swiss.
There have been a couple of anti-American cracks here lately. I'm not sure what that is all about.
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/08/10/210574193/why-didnt-the-store-just-let-oprah-buy-the-38-000-handbag
I was writing while you were posting. Didn't mean to walk on your post.
expected at state occasions.
I think she dresses beautifully for her age, and height.
seems as though MM could’ve gone to Ninaki’s family (since they were so close) for help. Her real reasons for not introducing JH & TM were that she was embarrassed about her father, she was afraid he’d accidentally tell her secrets (there are too many to remember), and she wanted PC to walk her down the aisle. And the biggest: he never planned to marry her. Why would he want to meet the father of his booty call?
Could she have told JH that she was abused? Maybe. But why would he care? This is a woman who coerced him into marriage. We don’t know what actually happened between the Invictus Games & the Engagement, but he was forced into this marriage.
You may be right. For some reason Oprah has apologized to the Swiss government.?? It doesn't say why.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s-KLr6_Vslw
But here is yet another claim about a pricey store refusing to sell her a bag. This time Louis Vuitton
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IGbfJv1ia7c
The same incident in three different countries?
Not possible
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Let us please not pick on our most Royal Majesty Elisabeth Regina.
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Cheers
Re: Oprah and not being allowed to purchase a particular item.
I did not watch her alot, I read the magazine once in a while but I knew who she was and I had known of her for years so I'm having difficulty believing that in a high end store that they somehow hired people who were not particularly clued into who's who or how to recognize famous people but not tick them off as part of the employee training.
What I could believe is that sometimes they do have one or two in the back but that, for the most part, some of the really really high end purses are on an order basis which helps keep the numbers down and the allure up. If the store had sold their in the back ones, they would not have had a spare to sell her.
And or that maybe the salesperson was under the impression that she felt a need to walk out with something that day and was therefore trying to say these over here, we have a couple which may work if you need something today.
There is a kids book I remember reading where someone was commenting on how difficult it was this one rich woman as she could not control the weather - no one could be held accountable if it rained on the day of her big party.
Meghan’s charity endeavours rushed and ill-considered…..Grenfell cook book contained not a single British recipe & she showed up at Smartworks (a charity distributing secondhand clothes) in £6000 worth of Oscar de La Renta. Neither caused much ripple in the press, but KP unhappy & alarmed.
I do't know why they married either. I think the Queen allowed it because, well how can you tell a grown man (34 yo) he can't Marry someone? you can't , even if you are the Queen.
I always thought MeMe was equal in some respects: party hard, put away wet. She is rumoured to love the nose candy as much as Harry so they had that in common. He wanted someone to get him out of Royal life (although he thinks being ""ordinary bloke" means same good times, zero responsibilities) and she was willing and presented herself as able to do so. She saw him as a way to fulfill her "destiny" to be a global phenomenon.
They got married to use each other, thinking it was for mutual benefit.
Just my thoughts.
Totally agree about Oprah. And what's really weird is that she doesn't even realize how turned off most people are at the thought of her spending $38k on a purse!
So telling the same basic story 3 times just makes her look three times more extravagant. But she obviously thinks she's getting all kinds of props for the incident(s).
For my job and personal recreation, I consume an enormous amount of European and Asian media. Like @Scandi, I've been noticing lots of trolls based in the U.S. that have been blaming non-Americans for George Floyd's death. Like Meg and her sugars did to Brits, huge swathes of American trolls are calling non-Americans racist and bullying them to support BLM. I think her comment about the 4th of July has to do with her expectation that these American trolls will be "celebrating" on a huge scale.
As for her comment about Oprah, I think she was saying that Oprah expected to be known by those European shopkeepers when she, like a lot of Americans would be hard-pressed to identify the "most important" people in foreign countries, i.e. government leaders.
My European friends and family of various ages don't know who Oprah is. Additionally, my experience has been most Americans cannot identify Canada's or Mexico's leaders, and often their own state and city representatives. Not knowing your neighbor's leaders is considered very bad form in outside nations.
That's my POV. My experiences with @Scandi have been always positive and fun. I would hate for her to be misunderstood.
@abbyh: That’s a good explanation as to what might have happened.
In any case, if the salesperson said ‘it’s too expensive’, why not just ask, ‘how much is it?’ That would’ve put an end to the ‘problem’ right there. You can then say ‘yes, that’s in my price range’, or ‘wow, I had no idea it was that much.’ Haven’t we ALL been in a situation like that (on both ends of the cost scale?) Oprah wants people to ASSUME that everything is in her price range (which it is.) Egotism, not racism is her true problem.
PART 1
Thanks for the reminder. I have been trying to determine why my bathroom sink is leaking. Ugh!
This is an anonymous email sent to the person who writes the harrymarkle blog. It WAS in the Timeline section, sandwiched between part 5 and Part 6, but I noticed that this item and Part 6 have been removed from the harrymarkle timeline within the past few weeks since I originally saw it and copied it.
It is dated March 31, about six weeks before the wedding.
This is an anonymous email sent to the person who writes the harrymarkle blog. It WAS in the Timeline section, sandwiched between part 5 and Part 6, but I noticed that this item and Part 6 have been removed from the harrymarkle timeline within the past few weeks since I originally saw it and copied it.
Note: I have removed the user name from the email. The last paragraph is a notation by harrymarkle. This is too long for one comment, so I am splitting it into two parts.
The Anonymous Email:
MARCH 31, 2018
Sent in by ‘XxxxxxXxXxxxxx’
Meghan and Harry started as a play and pay situation.he has always been naughty but he could get away with it.this time harry was very unlucky.he was set up by Misha meghan and some pple.Harry was serious with some1 but meghan was able to work her sex magic and make harry stick around.however harry wasn’t planning to Marty her even to get serious with meghan.
fast forwad to problems after the engagementArguments btwn harry and meghan started the night of their engagement announcement.by xmas holiday harry heard made his mind that meghan is not what he wanted.by mid december harry heard gone quite on meghan hence thats y she turned up for xmas lunch unannounced she was never invited but she turned up forcefully and she was able to manipulate him up to a point where harry fell out with his family and ddnt go for the boxing day hunt.
through manipulation he was willing to try and make the relationship work but it ddnt take long once again for harry to realise that she was a liar a cheat and a manipulator.Meghan was seeing other guys behind Harry’s back who actually conducted harry around February and told him everything all the secrets they even warned him to stay away from meghan.this guys were used by meghan and dumped.some of this guys were taking care of her financially and they were planning a future with her.they were fleeced of their cash and unceremoniously dumped.
the revelations where the final straw that’s when PH ended things with her.from there PH has discovered so many secrets abt his future bride.Harry has told her so many times l dnt want u anymore but she is forcing him into the wedding with threats and desperation.Meghan is seeing 3 guys once again one of those guys even contacted harry last week and he was devastated.the reason y meghan is still around is coz the royals hve been expecting her to use her common sense to see and accept that Harry is done with her but she is not listening soon Henry will tell her in front of the senior royals that he is done with her that’s wen she will leave.blackmailing and threats hve not worked so far.
the royals are decent pple they will give her a bit of money .she is prostituting herself at the moment and also money from magazine covers bt she aint making a lot of money.in summary the relationship ended in February when she was exposed as a cheat by the way Corey and Trevor also spoke to Harry and tell him everything
By the way there are no arrangements or anything done with her by the royals.The other issue as well meghan has got mental health problems.PH knws about that she takes some kind of medication for it By the way the Royals including Harry they are not supporting her financially she has got debts up to her eyebrows where she is staying its expensive.she claimed to be a millionaires so harry basically told her to get on with it but the truth of the matter is that she is broke the money she makes on magazine covers goes to PR accommodation and her clothing but still its not enough that’s y she is dating other guys now for money
Back in the state’s she has nothing even her own home.
****Harrymarkle notation at the end of this email:
SENT IN FROM AN ANON unedited except for paragraphs, but I think I know who from and they have been pretty reliable.
The world leaders who are recognized tend to be people who stay in power for long periods and things happen which raise their front page above the fold visibility (think FDR, Hitler, Churchill, HM, JFK, Castro) periodically. And, there are so many more countries now playing on the big time world stage to try to track at time when we have 24 hours of news coverage (versus the local paper plus 3 national channels and maybe PBS.
I don't know of that incident she wrote about. I suspect it was some news cast where one might think they have people who check these things before it goes on the air or to print (but sometimes things happen that you wish hadn't). Really tight deadlines are always an headache and probably have made many a mistake more likely. That doesn't take away the sting if it is something you feel strongly about which comes off looking not good.
I like her and didn't really get upset about what she said. to me, it was an observation about how the values of some are more upset about an expensive purse not being sold than if someone id'd a country's leader correctly combined with all the normal MM drama.
There’s a big hole in that anonymous account, and that’s that celebrities don’t get paid for “magazine covers.” If anything, it’s the other way around - they spend money on PR trying to convince magazines to put them on the cover.
Professional models are paid modestly for covers, but the idea is mostly to get magazine bookings to create a name for yourself so you can get more profitable commercial advertising bookings.
It isn’t Charles’ job to investigate anyone. That would have been done by others. Regardless, we really have no idea what was done. I’ve said it before, if they’d denied Harry permission to marry Megsy, they would have been accused of being racist; if anything they wanted to come across as accepting and fair
The Queen is stuck in an era full stop! Lol From her hairstyle, her shoes, handbags and dress sense. Her daughter is much the same. Both The Queen and Anne are known to be frugal and I’d say not liking change with regard to fashion etc., and moving with the times a tad. :o)
A great thought-out post re Scandi’s comment.
The Queen dresses like an older lady: well, she is an older lady! The photo of Queen Margrethe you provide in the link is old - she was 72 in that photo - and Margrethe is 6 foot tall (1.82m).
Book Depository show Lady Colin's book will be available 28 July.
Lang may yer lum reek
A year ago QE attended a ceremony at Holyrood (Scottish Parliament) to celebrate the Parliament's 20th anniversary. She wore a very typical outfit (coat, dress, hat). The blue of the coat and hat was exactly the same as the blue in the Scottish flag and she had an enormous diamond thistle brooch. So, as the Queen of Scotland, she stood there as an embodiment of that country.
I don't think that MM could ever understand these nuances. Catherine is learning, Camilla already knows.
This was a bit long for a newbie comment. Apologies for any mistakes, English isn't my first language.
@Aquagirl I understand your feeling but @Scandi Sanskrit has described this incident on CDAN before. She's saying she got attacked for posting on CDAN "basically [her] saying Switzerland, France, and Japan are beautiful countries with good people." These U.S. trolls were triggered by her complimenting other countries not America.
Oprah and Meg are two peas in a pod: narcissists and race baiters. The two of them seem to think all foreign nations are annexes of the United States, specifically L.A.
Hello and welcome to Nuttyland! ;o)
The differences with the aforementioned Queen’s. No matter what they wear (regardless of fashion etc), they are always immaculate and dressed for the occasion. This cannot be said for Megsy.
You made a very good point re the two queens being who/what they want to be.
And don't apologise for any mistakes, your English is perfect.
'Meghan had brilliant ideas, but she was always in a hurry and aides had to sit down and explain that foundations and big projects take thought, time and commitment, they cannot be rushed.'
Sounds just like MM, rushes along, doesn't think things through, moves on to the next project.
All is not lost, however, as 'the insiders revealed how the couple have 'learned from the mistakes of the past' and are now determined to 'get the next stage right' as they look forward to the launch of their new charitable foundation Archewell.'
I don't think they've learnt from their mistakes and MM isn't the type who can. Not humble enough to acknowledge her mistakes, never mind learn from them.
There is a corker of a review on the UK’s Amazon site by a Jackson Jones, I wish I’d written it myself, it gave me confirmation that I was right about the book. See below. ;o)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1510761195/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_i_c_DNh.EbDW4JZTH_nodl
Charles seems to have fumbled the entire situation, from researching her past...
It isn’t Charles’ job to investigate anyone. That would have been done by others. Regardless, we really have no idea what was done. I’ve said it before, if they’d denied Harry permission to marry Megsy, they would have been accused of being racist; if anything they wanted to come across as accepting and fair
Charles blew it. Charles is good enough and means well but too much imbibing threw him off. And our amazing Megsy manipulating the (temporarily) besotted Prince Ch. dunce to walk her down the aisle. Aced her father out completely from the wedding so that she could re-invent herself.
The amusing part is Britain's enduring Queenie and her dumbass courtiers (Read useless palace advisers with sinecures) thought Megs coming in would insure them/ the BRF against racist claims and that the Monarchy was outdated. As UK becomes more multi-cultural the BRF liked Megs as a shield/ insurance policy.
But our street smart Megsy ,straight out of Compton/ Used the BRF before they could use her. (no Megs is not really from Compton, which btw is where the LA oil refineries were or still might be) (I saw those metal oil refinery stacks off in the 3 mile distance when I jumped into the Pacific ocean off of Long Beach and I was the only person there on a very nice well maintained beach)
The "once in a lifetime" experience for the tourists is an everyday occurrence for the poor people who live in those places.
@Hjorton, I repeat, the Queen of England can up her fashion game. She has only ever been to 1 fashion show in her entire life. She has the same designer for most of her clothes. She can do better to promote British fashion and make more of a mark on people. She has that strange British character of someone I once met - very wealthy woman who came to dinner at our place. She wore very expensive clothes, shoes and purse but her stockings had huge holes and runs in them. She was trying to save money while trying to impress (overly so in this case) for a small dinner party.
The BLM movement in the US has resulted in the removal Confederate statutes and renaming of buildings associated with slave owners or racists. Markle supports the movement. I wouldn’t be surprised to see more global support for this movement and a tie-in to anti-colonialism. There are many jewels in the BRF collection with questionable colonial origins. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a strong demand for the return of some items that make up key pieces of the Royal Jewels.
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India has been calling for return of the Kohinoor diamond (front and center in the crown the queen usually wears to open Parliament) ever since it was plundered and taken to England. No luck. But we shall see what develops.
I didn’t copy and paste the review as I wasn’t sure about copyright issues, tis why I just left the link.
It was one of the reviews I’ve read about the whole Dubious Duo saga! ;o)
Couldn’t you be bothered to follow the link I shared then? :o/
Meghan isn't from Compton. But the Williams sisters are. I've always wondered what Serena thought about that "insult" being leveled at M. I'm not saying it wasn't done for racist reasons...I suspect it was. But as one of M's supposed besties (but not close enough to score an invite to her New Orleans wedding?) I've wondered if she agreed that was an absolutely vile thing to say about M.
I find it hard to blame Charles or the Queen for M except for the continued gravy train. I know Harry needed permission to marry, but how likely is it the RF (or any family) could actually prevent a c**t-struck 33 year old from marrying? It sounds like plenty of people tried to get him to slow down.
Jhorton - welcome. I liked the phrasing about they are who they want to be as that really is a nice description of a truth about how they view themselves. It is especially nice when much of the values of the world are more about how you need to change how you look with surgery for others.
Having been a tourist overseas a number of times and in a number of countries (often where English is not the primary language), I would like to point out that there are mainly two types of tourists I've seen out there.
One learns to speak a couple words (like please, thank you, hello, good by) in the local language. They try to eat food which is common in the country (although once when I had been for a month, the smell of Burger King as I walked by drew me in for an expensive and better than I would get in the USA burger). They try to see a lot of different things which might not be the high tourist points. They will likely stay in a small or mid sized hotel not in the center of town. They look at people and smile at them.
The other tends to stay in big American chain hotel where they can eat an Americanized version of the local foods or their typical comfort foods from home. They don't need to learn a few words because the people they will interact with all speak English. They will tell you about how they visited, say the Louvre. That means they did the 5 minute tour (Mona Lisa, Venus de Milo, Winged Victory of Samothrace). Everything else they walked past as if it isn't valuable enough or something. I'm not saying they don't smile but you don't get the sense of approachability.
Book reviews - very amusing.
DM about the big ideas from dinner and they've learned. Really? The latest foundation is not best example of how they've changed.
There's also another DM article about how they've joined up to use the brands boycotting Facebook. hmmm Although the DM does state it is unclear how they plan to help. I wonder what would happen if one of them actually offered them money.
We hear a lot about Nazi plunder, for the British and French, in fact, everyone did the same thing. The Mona Lisa, for example, rightfully belongs in Italy but Napoleon stole her.
That should be - We hear a lot about Nazi plunder but the British and the French, in fact, everyone did the same thing. The Mona Lisa, for example, rightfully belongs in Italy but for Napoleon.
But i thought England returned the Stone of Scone... yes, in 1996. But it will still be available for coronations in Westminster Abbey.
So, one down.....how many to go!
I did try your link but it did not filter down to one review. It filtered down to all Amazon reviews.... Anyways I must eat a raspberry ruffle some day. You don't see them in America. At least to my knowledge. Not too many scones either, though on the latest Curb Your Enthusiasm they made a big deal about scones. I have only eaten one scone in my life
Incidentally the Stone of Scone was returned to Scotland in 1996 and is housed in Edinburgh Castle alongside the Scottish Crown Jewels. It is only returned to Westminster Abbey for coronations
Loved the comment that MM should have set her cap on Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos. I bet she's kicking herself over those "missed opportunities."
A slight correction if I may. The queen is not the queen of England but the Queen of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth.
The queen is not meant to be a style icon. Quite apart from her age, I suspect fashion has never been a priority for her.
Thank you for finding, and then cutting and pasting the timeline.
Did anyone else notice that Meghan crashed the Christmas Lunch (in the timeline)?
Would that even be possible?
If she did, I would suggest BP needs to do something about its security, and marvel at MMs brass b**ls!
That is a great review, RR! That's one of the times When I wish we could drop a "card" and invite the author to come by. She sounds like one of us.
Welcome, Hjortron! Your English is perfect!
Simple translation here is the Prince Harry was c**t struck. Megs must have had some fine sexual magic + Dimm Harry was approaching the age of Royal abasement.
Agree, I too wish the they’d find Nutty’s blog ! Maybe we should consider this a call-out to that truly enlightened reviewer on Amazon. ;o)
Quite right. She is the most powerful woman in the world. She doesn't need to make a spectacle of herself in the latest "fashions".
@Girl with a Hat
Calling the Queen an “old mare” is disrespectful.
I personally advocate for seniors to have more of a voice in modern society. They seem to like to hide a bit after a certain age, and I think that's doing them a disservice. They have the experience and wisdom to help guide all of society.
Many seniors now are in much better health and have more energy than seniors of previous generations. I would love to see more of them involved in all aspects of our society.
I am thinking that with all sorts of technologies and breakthroughs in science, we can look forward to seeing more of the over 65 set play a larger role in our society and we will all be the better for it!
Yes! Perfect description! She reminds me of Michelle Duvalier, the American-born wife of Haiti's last hereditary dictator "Baby Doc". Haiti is the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere, yet Michelle bought couture clothes like nobody else. She had the air conditioning in a room in the presidential palace set to its lowest setting so that she and her friends could wear their fur coats (remember, Haiti has a tropical climate). Of course the economy of the UK is nothing like Haiti's, but both women share the same vulgar, ostentatious over-consumption.
yes, there is a resemblance in behaviour. Also, with Michaelle Jean, the Haitian-Candian head of the Francophonie (an organisation of French speaking countries from around the world) who was let go because of excessive personal spending
I was expressing my opinion
as I am quite entitled to do so.
I suppose you overlooked the fact that
it was SwampWoman who said the Queen
is the most powerful woman in the world.
I agree with SwampWoman.
I was just on skippy's tumblr and she had several greetings for the day.
About the Vanity Fair cover and article -
A Palace insider admitted that “Harry received a very stern call from his father about this. It was unbecoming, he felt this was the wrong thing for Meghan to do. Charles started to suspect that Harry couldn’t control his fiancée. It started to dawn on him that she was someone who would put up a fight when it came to royal protocols. He also started to realize that despite what Harry was telling him, he was secretly enjoying this. Harry was reveling in the upset he was causing and—as he always had—been the rebellious one, who can’t be controlled.”
And- Worse was to come when it was leaked that Meghan had told Harry she wanted to return to the small screen as an actor. In the past, her acting career was limited only by her talent and her ability to persuade people to give her a break; now that more sizable and weightier roles would no doubt be available to her, she was excited at the prospect of transitioning to the silver screen, and possibly even winning an Oscar.I especially like limited only by her talent
Will they divorce in 2020?
Yes (The Moon). while pulling cards on this divorce I kept seeing the image of her signing a paper at a long conference table in a room made of all wood. H was not there and she did not seem hesitant to sign. But for some reason one of them needs to keep up the illusion that everything is fine, there’s a strong sense of resisting the inevitable because they feel obligated to stay together.
Will it be finalized in February?
No. There is some kind of delay that is occurring. I did see her in the room again and it looks like she’s making changes to the document, so it’s not final but it will be soon.
Emphasis added. Yep, you could certainly call a pandemic "some kind of delay"!
There are interesting bits, for instance she owns a collection of transparent umbrellas in colours of her outfits, because she doesnt want umbrella to hide her from the people who came to see her.
Very few people remember that about a decade ago the then respectable Vogue included her into 50 most influential dressers in the world.
Don't t forget Grace Mugabe.
It wouldn't surprise me if she single handedly brought back gloves as an everyday fashion accessory with the pandemic going on.
I am just saying that an asymmetrical colour, or a monochrome print from time to time would be a very nice touch to her wardrobe. Especially the dresses she wears to state dinners - they seem to always be white, and wash her out. Also, a V neck décolleté doesn't suit her. She needs to expand her vestimentary choices. She's a very attractive woman for her age and she needs to play to her strengths, as do we all.
I completely agree! I said in my first post on this thread as royals (yes, even pretend and completely removed ones) need to stay apolitical. I’m hoping her involvement in the Wisconsin case, spectacularly backfires and they end up with egg on their faces. Only then may this runaway train nonsense stop. Okay, scratch that! At this point I’m just ever hopeful anything and something will blow up in their faces which shows them up for who they truly are.
This is my interpretation. William is going to include his outside children in the line of succession ahead of H and A because they are W's kids. Paternity suits are in the mix.
https://twitter.com/JuneCleaver20/status/1275216280962895874
https://twitter.com/faith_first1/status/1275278819293831169
https://twitter.com/IslandGypsy68/status/1275273489252048897
'In the documents, the 38-year-old has also claimed she felt 'unprotected' by the 'institution' of the Royal Family and could not defend herself against false claims levelled against her, which highlights divisions between the Cambridge and Sussex households before she stepped down as a senior royal with Prince Harry in March in what was dubbed 'Megxit''.
Unfortunately, the names haven't been made public.
Also:
'Meghan has denied saying in the letter to her father that she felt he had 'victimised' her - and that she had 'only one father'.
The Duchess said she wrote the letter to stop him being 'manipulated' by the Press, rather than 'an attempt at reconciliation'.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8478955/Meghan-Markle-names-five-friends-People-article.html
Hmm. Not sure how she'll fare at trial, if there is one.
The HAMS are a disgrace. Just H cannot interfere in our politics. How dare he talk about race relations? He almost flunked out of what we call in the states (Junior high” or “middle school”), except for teachers cheating for him; when one teacher whistle blew the scandal, she was fired. Anybody who, as an adult, wore a Nazi uniform, photographed and filmed while wearing it, and giving the Heil Hitler salute, needs to shut up. Shut his trap.
Interference from foreign governments in the USA politics is below contempt, and the INS needs to deport him. Just H is a threat to the crown, and Great Britain, if he or It ppreaches “the right and only only ay to think” or spreads rumors about the Queen and her government. Treason is a word that Just H needs to be tutored in, or have somebody who knows how to read, read it to him. Harry is a lost cause, and as my father used to say as an analogy, rip the band aid (plaster) off quickly, never slowly, as one is just prolonging the pain. And the universal saying “Do not throw good money after bad.” Charles needs to cut all funding. Isn’t it against the law for Charles to use Duchy money for anybody but himself and his household, not his children, especially a very minor has-been Prince?
@Girl WTH: Who gives a damn about what the Queen wears? Stop trying to get off topic, as you are extremely repetitious, in my humble view. The Queen always looks lovely, she has made her look, from hairstyle, dress, shoes and handbag, an iconic figure. It is done on purpose for decades.
Don’t waste your time and $$$ on this book.
Quite! I think she's digging herself into a deeper hole every time. I hope the one year review is brought forward and they're stripped of all their fancy titles. They're totally undeserving of them.
If even hint of it is true, no illegitimate children (as far as I’m aware) have ever been considered lawful issues of a future Monarch. Therefore they are not legally considered in line to the succession or have a legal right to the throne.
This tweet sounds downright nasty and spiteful by the way. :o(
I think the Queen should wear an asymmetric neckline from time to time.
I think it would help modernise her image.
She doesn't need to worry about her attractiveness. She has something far more lasting, power and position. Why should she compete sartorially with the lesser women who preen to attract or keep the attention of a rich or powerful male?
Personally, I love her trademark style especially the cheerful bright colors, her beautiful hats and lovely broaches which often make a statement.
If he reads everything written about him, maybe it hit home that looking like a homeless street person isn't the best look if you're trying to be a big buck philanthropist. Except that he is homeless. Oops.
"Meghan believes her wedding to Prince Harry in Windsor in 2018 generated £1 billion in tourism revenue"
Does this mean MM's next lawsuit will be suing every AirBNB host, taxi driver and souvenir seller for HER cut of the profits?
That her lawyers included such a ridiculous figure, as well as the line about the BRF not protecting her, indicates to me that they have no interest in winning a legitimate case, but instead are helping Megs create headlines.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8478955/Meghan-Markle-names-five-friends-People-article.html
Thanks for the direction on the review. I had already checked Amazon.com to no avail. Just received an email from Amazon suggesting I might want to purchase the book. I'll take your advice on that.
To put an end to these comments abt the queen always wearing white/pale V neck evening dresses, just Google queen Elizabeth II in evening dress.
You will see a range of colours and necklines.
I love her brooches and the meaning behind them. Also like her hats. I always look forward to seeing what she's going to wear. I liked her green dress at Christmas time.
Also, I really appreciate that she wears appropriate undergarments that I can't see through her clothing.
Absolutely agree. I really want to be a fly on the wall in any royal palace, so I could hear what the royals think of all the absolute shite surrounding Megsy and her baseless rumours. :o/
There is an interesting book out (on topic!) by the Queens dresser, Angela Kelly. I started reading it, hoping for some juicy tidbits, but was disappointed, alas. Ms Kelly has the highest regard for HM and is completely discreet.
I know, what was I thinking?
@Girl with her own cute hat, I hope...I missed the Charles II connection as well. Fill us in, will you?
I'm just waiting to hear what male ruler should be displaying his decolletage differently, or wearing a nice print or off the shoulder suit
Ha!!!! Thanks for the laugh
Google: Pierre Cardin 1978 Pagoda Shoulder men's Suit
(Sorry, I can't make a link work properly)
Perhaps this tweet insinuating that PW has "other children" is MeMe or a sugar's attempt to introduce allowing illegitimate children into the line of success so as to make Archie legitimate in the line of succession?????
Harry blackmailed/threatened his family by claiming they would be accused of racism if they did not agree to the marriage.
Sounds like he just morphed into a mini-megs. It's true you become who you hang out with. Can't believe he was this gullible. And honestly, his family should have seen this coming. The guy has serious issues.
It ain’t old til it’s told
By Camilla Tominey, Associate Editor
Part I
Royal books can be a bit like buses. You wait ages for one to come along and then three in a row trundle down the road.
While the world awaits the August 11 publication of Finding Freedom, Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand’s upcoming biography of Harry and Meghan, two other books on the Sussexes are causing a stir in royal circles.
The first, Harry and Meghan: The Real Story, by Lady Colin Campbell of I’m A Celebrity fame, is undoubtedly the more controversial in its quest to justify the accusation that Meghan has “thrown the whole British family under the bus.”
Indeed, I cannot actually repeat many of the claims made by the bestselling author of Diana In Private for fear of legal reprisals.
Lady C, as she’s known, appears convinced Meghan has set her sights far higher than Disney voice-overs. “I know the Duchess of Sussex has political ambitions and I’ve been told that one day she wants to run for President,” she said.
“I think everything she is doing, leaving the Royal Family and moving back to California, is part of her plan and she has taken Harry along with her.”
Stranger things have certainly happened.
In another biography of the Sussexes, investigative journalists Dylan Howard and Andy Tillett reveal some things most of us already knew, such as the embarrassment reportedly caused by Meghan announcing her pregnancy at Princess Eugenie’s wedding. They claim it left the bride and her mother, the Duchess of York, “furious”. I think “upset” may be a better description – they were certainly rather put out.
Royals at War: The Untold Story of Harry and Meghan’s Shocking Split with the House Of Windsor, also alleges that Meghan’s “West Coast energy” alienated the Royals.
Again, stories that Meghan bombarded staff with 5am texts, prompting five aides to quit in swift succession, will be familiar to many.
And herein lies the problem for the Sussexes as their Stateside relaunch remains in coronavirus-induced limbo: their departure from the Firm has done nothing to stop the rehashing of headlines they claim drove them from Britain in the first place.
It was always a fallacy that the couple would somehow be afforded more privacy in a place like Los Angeles, where the paparazzi prowl practically every celebrity corner.
But an unforeseen consequence of Covid-19 is that it has created a news vacuum between the Sussexes’ royal life and their new one. They had hoped that their PR people Sunshine Sachs would help to fill the void with reports of their Archewell-inspired endeavours.
But while that has all had to be put on hold, the space in between has become populated by tales of Jessica Mulroney’s white privilege and unauthorised exposés. This is not media that can be "managed" by even the highest paid PRs. It has always been out of their control and always will be, no matter how many statements they release attacking the press or court cases they launch against the likes of the Mail group.
The news adage: “It ain’t old til it’s told” has always applied to royal stories – even if that means telling the same story over and over again.
That will apply to Harry and Meghan whether or not they are HRHs, and living in Windsor or California.
My brother is the consummate narcissist. Lived off the bank of Dad, like Harry, and as my father approached his late eighties, no longer had the energy to deal with him. At that time, we executed the trust and the trustees, my older brothers, took control. That put a hitch in his little red wagon and the drama and trauma he tried to inflict was nuclear. We finally put a restraining order on him in order to protect my father. As my father lay in hospice, he snuck into his room during the day, shaved his head and took my father’s hair with him. The CNA caught him as he was leaving. My father was always proud of his full head of gorgeous platinum hair. My brother knew this. I had the police go to his new residence, told him I would have him arrested if he ever did that again and would sue him into oblivion. I did get him back when my father passed. The moron built a house and did not pull one permit for it. The house was not visible from the road. It was also built in the Chesapeake Bay watershed. When an inspector both state and federal calls, lol. A cautionary tale of dealing with narcissists on Meghan’s level. They truly are insane.
As for the Queen's wardrobe, I've tried to be kind but that's still not enough for you, I guess. I'm afraid that our tastes and expectations are quite different. I look at the other monarchs in Europe and Japan for comparison. She may be a wonderful lady but she's not perfect. If you continue haranguing me, I'll become much blunter.
"Nutties - how do you feel about having separate pages for other sub-topics if Nutty is willing?"
I would like that because it would create a more cohesive conversation with comments likely to remain on topic. But, and it's a big but, it could make more work for Nutty as she would have to read multiple threads in order to monitor them and that would be bad. I would want her to remain the moderator here, the sole moderator. With her recent appearance posting comments things have been running smoother (if you get my drift).
I wonder if the family was just hoping he would find some nice girl who would take him off their hands. I have a friend whose brother is such a problem that they pray for him to find someone who will love him and hopefully, move him far away.
It's not a nice thing. But they still love him, and maybe "that girl" is out there who will love him for what he does bring to the table. He's not dangerous, he's sweet, and he loves kids so......
They are tired and worried. Maybe the RF was as well and just hoped for the best. She was ambitious where he was not, he loved her and was sure she loved him, she had a lot of charm in the beginning and maybe she would help him find himself.
Of course, once the threats started all bets should have been off.