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Open post: New books about Meghan and Harry

Several books about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have either been newly published or are about to be published.

I haven't had a chance to read anything but the excerpts in the Daily Mail so far -- big reveals include that the Sussexes spent nearly $5000 on numerology sessions and that Doria received an allowance from Meghan and Harry.

Let's discuss the excerpts and the books themselves in this space.

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Starry said…
As Lady C. tells it, the BRF knew *all* about Megsy once she came into the picture, including the sex tape. She justly acknowledges in the book that the tape could be a deep-fake.

But it didn't matter to the BRF whether it was a fake or not - the mere fact of its existence was obviously a concern.

The courtiers are honed to recognize opportunists and they had her number from day one, according to Lady C.

As has been discussed on the blog, Harry was petulant and demanding and the BRF were worried that not allowing the marriage would backfire on them as accusations of racism.

Lady C. tells it that if Meghan were white, this marriage would not have been approved.

Megsy, knowing this, uses it as a weapon against the BRF.
Starry said…
As far as the rumours of other illegitimate bebes out there, it doesn't matter if they are true or not. The idea creates seeds of doubt in the succession...

If these rumours are balloons from Megs - as I suspect they are - then I think she may have played her last card with the BRF. What else could she possibly have on them?
HM can't win -

Say `no' to the marriage? It's because she's racist!

Say `yes' when she wouldn't have agreed if MM had been white? It's because she's racist!

Narcissists twist everything to their advantage.
xxxxx said…
Why is this the most literate Megs/Haplesss/BRF blog? Because no images can be posted here at this antiquated thing. Best of a glorious July 4th to all in America and other Nuttys in other locations glorious too.

And if you have a lovely testimony, then by all means testify. Shake it loose. You are among friends here//// an some limited enemies
Hikari said…
@holly

Haz’s Biking Adventure; a ploy to show Chas how unprotected Harry is, if Chas has stopped funding the security. Why, anything could happen! PCH is a very dangerous road...

Perhaps the Dorkles have reneged on the Frogmore payments already.
SwampWoman said…
I'm reading this while listening to "The Last of the Mohicans" promontory. Seems fitting, somehow, since we all know that there won't/can't be a good outcome to The Sussex Sh*tshow (Now with MORE PR).
xxxxx said…
Hikari said...


I wonder if this "they didn't protect me during my pregnancy" is some kind of volley and it will turn into "I had a surrogate and they didn't support me."

One does wonder . . . Though I have come to the conclusion that *if* there is a child called Archie that is half Harry, who was born via surrogate, the fact will never be willingly acknowledged by the RF. Some intrepid journalist might blast the lid off the truth someday (Tom Bower will probably write the only Meg bio worth reading).

I think this is more of Meghan's Narco taunting of the RF . . she really and truly believes that she is untouchable from across the water now. She is trying to force them by this gambit to issue a public statement to the effect that she *was* legitimately pregnant and carried Archie. This is called Doubling (Tripling, Quadrupling) Down on her lies. Meg's MO has always been to tell a lie so often it becomes accepted truth.


And after all the lies and the double talk
SwampWoman said…
I wonder if JHFKAP is struggling with his upcoming 36th birthday considering that his mother died shortly after she turned 36. Maybe that is why he kicked over the traces and bolted for "freedom" shortly after he turned 35.

Do any of the royal books discuss any struggles that Prince William may have had at that age?
Maneki Neko said…
While scrolling through the DM I saw this from LCC (in the Mirror in this NEWZIT in the middle of a page):

'Lady C, who has published a string of books about the royal family, also addressed Harry and Meghan's new life outside the royal family and their surprise move to America.

When asked if she felt Harry had those plans before meeting Meghan, she said: "If you believe for one second that Harry had anything like this up his sleeve you believe in the tooth fairy and the pig airline. They don’t exist. Absolutely not. Had Harry married anyone else, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex would be here safe and sound in Kensington Palace. It’s completely Meghan."


I don't remember reading this in the book but perhaps it was there.

Re. MM's tales of woe abt not being protected by the BRF during her pregnancy, is this a ploy to make sure people know she was pregnant? She felt 'unprotected by the institution of the royal family' during her pregnancy and was 'prohibited from defending herself'. Unprotected from what exactly? And 'prohibited from defending herself'? She was never backward about coming forward. She must have heard the rumours abt a surrogate and needs to confirm indirectly that she was pregnant.
Nutty Flavor said…
@Aquagirl and @CatEyes, I’ve published your comments on the other thread.

Let’s move everything here, however - it’s easier to keep an eye on a single thread.
Shaggy said…
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SwampWoman said…
Prince William has a loving family and a purpose in life. JH, not so much; he's been separated from his family and ALL of his friends, and I would not be at all surprised to find that he gets a lot of verbal abuse. He seems quite impulsive. The RF are right, I think, to worry about him.
lizzie said…
Re: Not protected while pregnant.

I think it's simpler than many posts are suggesting. Remember this is in relation to the lawsuit. While she is throwing in hurtful stuff just because she's a *itch, I think this is to explain why 5 friends went to PEOPLE when she was "heavily pregnant" (in January, haha) And to explain why she shared the letters with them because she was so stressed and unprotected by anyone.
Maneki Neko said…
@Lizzie

Ah, yes, I forgot abt the lawsuit. The BRF will have been delighted to hear her complaints. Ungrateful so-and-so.
Hikari said…
Midge provided the distances via Google from the Harkle's crashpad to Malibu:

According to Google it is 27 min (17.1 mi) via Las Virgenes Rd, Malibu Canyon Rd and CA-1 N to Malibu. Other routes are a bit longer.

As I suspected, not close together, then. 17 miles . . that 27 minutes would be by car, so imagine being a cyclist on those twisty canyon roads and then down the notoriously twisty PCH (CA-1) where so many automotive tragedies and impaired driving incidents have occurred. It would take a bloke on a bike considerably longer than 30 minutes to get to Malibu especially if he's unfamiliar with the terrain and/or considerably out of shape. I do not get the sense that Harry has had plentiful opportunities for his customary exercise (polo) in exile.

And then having got there, he's got to get back, so that would have been a rigorous cycle, all by himself.

Not buying it. Any appearance of 'tan' (undetected by me) was probably Meg's bronzer. Apart from polo, Harry's hobbies all seem to be the more interior kind. Harry tends to high color in the cheeks after exertion. Not sure I've ever seen him as what could be called 'tan', not even in Afghanistan.
CatEyes said…
Althea Bernstein Official GoFundMe supported by her and her family Is Asking for $500,00, A HALF MILLION $$, so she can buy a farm and have troubled youth work on Her farm (probably they will be volunteers for her animal rescue, hence free farm labor)!!

This stinks. The USDA specifically has programs to help women and minorities get into farming. I know because I attended an all day conference on this. Althea and her family are wanting to capitalize (like $550k in capital, lol) on her 'injuries' to get free money which I bet $500,000 could buy a nice little farm in Wisconsin. No mention what she wants to raise on her farm but some kitties and doggos don't take $500.000.
Shaggy said…
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SwampWoman said, Do any of the royal books discuss any struggles that Prince William may have had at that age?

I’ve never read anything to say he had, then again he’s not Harry and much more private in that way. Harry’s much more about PR these days, he’d bring up anything that relates to his Mother etc.
Maneki Neko said…
@willie'sBucket

She wants us to understand she was indeed pregnant. None of this surrogate nonsense. Yes, Meg...
abbyh said…

Ok, my take on HM and how she dresses.

She's 94, still showing up to work (and not for just an hour or less each day. Not wearing polyester stretch pants with thick elastic in the wait.

She looks and dresses better than most people her age and they are the least likely to be still working.

(and to be honest - I like that she prefers to not be trying to chase the latest fashion trend or be dressing as if she were a third the age she is). sorry being late to the party about her attire. internet issues (grinds teeth)
SwampWoman said…
Wullie'sBucket said: Yes, this!! There were many cries from the stans while she was pregnant over how the royal reporters and internet detractors were so "cruel" to the poor princess while she was carrying Archie! But why is she pushing this issue if she used a surrogate?

I haven't noticed that we people in ordinary life are "protected" from anybody while pregnant. We still work. We still exercise, go on runs, ride horses, etc. We still have husbands that say, when we ask how we look, something like "DAYUMN, girl, you puttin' on some serious weight! Might want to put down that donut!" and then it is ON, and the only reason they are not lying dead on the floor is the realization that we would have to clean it up.
KCM1212 said…
Did I read this in an LCC excerpt? I was gobsmacked.

Harry and Meghan actually felt that the BRF should have called the Royal Rota and other newspapers together to tell them to stop printing mean stuff about them (meaning Meghan). It was immaterial that the "stuff" was true, or that they simply could change their own behaviors to make it stop.

They were completely happy to kick the concept of free speech (and you know, a million constitutional rights) to the curb because Madame didn't care for the coverage.

Harry apparently felt that this was "protection" she should have been entitled to as a member of the RF, and he (meaning the family) should provide it to her. In her mind, I suppose what's the point of being Queen if you can't shut down a pesky press?

Forgetting of course that no one, certainly not another royal bride, got that kind of protection.

And the whole, you know, WRONG thing.

This is all part of Nutmegs campaign of "if you loved me" and her Diana 2 .0 game. He can't even be in the same building as the truth anymore, much less SEE it.

She HAD to get him out of Britain, his family, and his world.

KCM1212 said…
Oops, I should have mentioned...Harry SAID all that to PC and HM.

In a meeting that he then stormed out of.

I wondered if it were true, but Nutmeg just confirmed it!
Shaggy said…
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Mistral said…
@abbyh: that's all she needs to do at this point, fashionwise.

@SwampWoman: I love the theme from The Last Mohicans, aka "The Gael." I think it's a traditional piece done by various Celtic artists. I also have a version of it with bagpipe.....incredible!

@CatEyes: one reason I hate GoFundMe. How many scams have been perpetuated there?

I really don't understand what MM means by "not being protected" whilst (fake) pregnancy. Did her massive entourage go on strike? Were there no bodyguards? Such a perpetual victim!
Jdubya said…
I usually don't watch that youtube stuff from DanjaZone but saw one referenced on LSA. I watched it and it had some interesting info. One on Harry's Alledged recent short visit to London - on request from PP. Some of the info on this one kind of rings true. She says H&M will be returning for 4-6 weeks in mid July. At least it supposed to be all 3 at that time but M really doesn't want to go and it will "depend on her work schedule". Kind of an interesting take on stuff. HEre's the link if you are interested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTDM4Pnwd_c

"Kate Middleto Refuses to even try - Harry begs Meghan to go home
SwampWoman said…
KCM1212: Oops, I should have mentioned...Harry SAID all that to PC and HM.

In a meeting that he then stormed out of.

I wondered if it were true, but Nutmeg just confirmed it!


Awwwww, durn. She CONFIRMED it? Harry actually SAID that? I'm going to have to subtract more IQ points from the duo, and I fear we're going into negative territory.
KCM1212 said…
@Swampwoman

She was confirming the story by telling the court she should have had extra protection while "pregnant". And didnt get it.

I lol'd at your pregnancy story

If only Megsy had a sense of humor
CatEyes said…
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CatEyes said…
In 1974 I lived in West Hollywood 1 yr and used to take a few rides to Westwood (inland from Malibu) but the terrain is hilly, roads narrow, traffic horrendous and it was only 6 miles. Google Maps said it was 38 miles from Hollywood Hills to Malibu one way or a whopping 76 miles roundtrip. I am not buying Harry could do it because of the roads such as the treacherous Hwy 1 at Malibu and fighting the scary traffic and all the up and down the considerable hills. I don't think Harry is in great shape having been laying around for almost a yr since he played polo. Also Bike Helmets have a pretty good strap so it would hide his beard somewhat obscuring his identity. Finally what RPO would allow a suicide bike trip like this anyway, not one that valued his job!

No just PR pee pee.l
Miz Malaprop said…
@Hikari

From Tyler Perry's to Malibu is about 20 or so miles, but it's very unlikely even a fit Harry would bike all the way there due to the heavy traffic on Sunset Blvd and Pacific Coast Hwy. Plus, he would get lost.

More likely, they were visiting someone in the Malibu Colony and he rode out to Zuma beach where surfers often gather. The Colony is a gated community where many movie stars actually do live and the few times I've been there you have to check in, and are monitored. In that sense, he may have felt comfortable riding along on his own and I think there are limitations on taking photos and such within the community.
Shaggy said…
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none said…
@Miz Malaprop ~ The article says Surfrider Beach aka First Point. Is this in the same area?
Lily Love said…
@wullies bucket

At this point I would say that Meghan is insane, and if Harry’s family can’t get him away from her, then they need to cut him off completely.
OT but this is a response to a couple of comments here averring that Prince Andrew will not be affected by Ghislaine Maxwell’s arrest today. Here is a quote from an article about Maxwell in the Telegraph today:

“A former New York prosecutor told the Telegraph on Thursday that Ms Maxwell may be offered a deal if she had information about the Duke.”

Yes indeed. And not just information about PA, but a number of other high-profile individuals (including Bill Clinton) as well. Definitely not a good day for Prince Andrew.
Aquagirl said…
@Lily Love: Thanks for summing up the situation completely!
Shaggy said…
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@SwampWoman - I love your humour!

My husband's just come up with a suggestion from his time on assignment in Raleigh NC -
`Meghan and Hairy should make like a cowpat and hit the trail..'

...to which I'd add doesn't matter which route they take - for them, all trails lead to Nowheresville.

Was H supposed to have been on a pushbike or a motorbike?
SwampWoman said…
“A former New York prosecutor told the Telegraph on Thursday that Ms Maxwell may be offered a deal if she had information about the Duke.”

Yes indeed. And not just information about PA, but a number of other high-profile individuals (including Bill Clinton) as well. Definitely not a good day for Prince Andrew.


I'd say yes, they are definitely looking at human trafficking, espionage, blackmail by foreign entities of US officials. Not so much at Prince Andrew, I think. Maxwell has a HUGE target on her.
luxem said…
So M thinks the Queen is a dictator who can shut down the press on top of all the other "misconceptions" she had about royal life?

Wouldn't it be sweet revenge if the MoS lawyers said they wanted proof that M was actually pregnant if that was the impetus for her friends' concerns that caused them to speak to People magazine??
Lily Love said…
@swampwoman

I hope all of the people who were on the Lolita express are scared out of their minds.
There is one thing she appears to believe in that nobody has taken into account.

Judging by the various amulets and charms she has sported on occasions, she has a sincere belief in the power of the Evil Eye. Dammit, the RF didn't think of providing any form of apotropaic shield for her and the miraculously-conceived child she was `carrying'. How negligent!

What's the betting she accuses the RF and/or Mail newspapers of putting the Evil Eye on her? Strange that, given that she such an expert herself:

Evil eye - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Evil_eye
The evil eye is a curse or legend believed to be cast by a malevolent glare, usually given to a person when they are unaware.

Remember the story about the old lady in the African village who fled from her, saying she was a witch? I wonder what she `saw' that led her to that view? Did she see a hate-filled glare aimed at someone innocent?

Yet consider how happy she was to be seen as pregnant? Did she ever stop smirking when sh knew the camera was on her?
Jdubya said…
I think there are a lot more people than PA that need to worry about Maxwell's arrest. She supposedly has a lot stashed so if she goes to jail or "dies" mysteriously, it will all be released. You know there are some BIG names right now pulling every string they've got to get her released.

I am surprised she was in the U.S.

But, that is OT.
Button said…
I am beginning to wonder if by not commenting in any way, the RF is precipitating Megatrons` lapse into what is called narc rage. It is true, correct, that people with this disorder cannot stand to be ignored? By ignoring her and Hasbeen, she has now started to really lash out with all this rubbish she is now piling on, including that completely insane lawsuit by ' Archificial '.
.
She is appearing to be even more unhinged than before.
.
?
Jdubya said…
Has Harry's Diana award video been mentioned already? Love the hand gestures :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bjTI5DZClc
SwampWoman said…
Button said: I am beginning to wonder if by not commenting in any way, the RF is precipitating Megatrons` lapse into what is called narc rage. It is true, correct, that people with this disorder cannot stand to be ignored? By ignoring her and Hasbeen, she has now started to really lash out with all this rubbish she is now piling on, including that completely insane lawsuit by ' Archificial '.
.
She is appearing to be even more unhinged than before.


It would be great if an anonymous source, upon being asked for a comment, would just sigh deeply and utter "Poor Meghan. Her mental health is very fragile. Everybody is quite worried for her."
Hikari said…
@LilyLove

At this point I would say that Meghan is insane, and if Harry’s family can’t get him away from her, then they need to cut him off completely.

Being cut off by one's family for marrying the wrong person or else behaving in a way that brings shame upon the family name is a common theme in aristocratic circles. Harry has earned such a punishment many, many times over since he came of age, and continues to do so and yet has always skated free. I think in more ruthless times, the sovereign would have had a mental defective such as he seems to be shut away in an institution or under guard at a secluded palace for his own protection . . and to preclude so many problems for the Crown.

The Harkles' behavior gets worse with every passing day and they show no signs of ceasing to be a thorn in the side of the RF while they draw breath. HM has been incredibly forebearing, but this has to stop now. It's time for that 'financial independence' to kick in. As a guest alien with no employment visa and no discernible job skills, Haz isn't going to get work in the U.S. The role of breadwinner falls to Meg . . and that's a laugh! I bet they have already run through the $3 mil from Disney long ago, swallowed up in PR.

Nonetheless, Charles needs to cut them off from the teat. No more Sovereign Grant, no more Duchy monies, except for security as previously agreed, out of Harry's portion that he'd normally get. Money for travel back home could always be provided, and help with medical bills for Archie (humor me). No more Crown or Duchy money to fund their frivolous, wasteful, traitorous lifestyle. Let Harry make his own way like an 'ordinary bloke', out of his money from his mother. Charles has to say, no more. *If* the Dumbarkles have a 14-month old toddler with them (huge IF) his welfare is tantamount, of course, but a trust could be set up to administer Archie's expenses via an authorized agent in such a way that neither Harry nor Meghan could get their hands on it for any other purpose besides personal care items and food for Archie plus his schooling when the time comes.

The duo's behavior argues very strenuously against them having a baby with them. It'd be interesting to see what Meg would do if HM and Charles agreed to restore the HRHs and pay off Frogmore Cottage and restore their allowance from the SG as conditions for bringing Archie back to England, so he could grow up knowing his Windsor relatives. I think the duo were asked to leave the Firm because of Archie initially and they hastened their shambolic demise with the petulant and unauthorized 'manifesto' of demands. I think if reconciliation were possible, it would have come to pass, but MM is just getting more and more out of control. They've got to cut off her source of all those millions for toxic PR.
Miz Malaprop said…
@ Holly

Zuma is farther north, and less crowded. I didn't see the part where they mentioned Surfrider, which means it's the more touristy, less exclusive area. Of course, he's a Dumbarton and wouldn't pick the prettier, more private beach.
CatEyes said…
Beaches themselves are public in California according to state law unless that has changed since I moved away.


@WBBM

Good question on bike type! I thought everyone was referencing Harry was using a bicycle (not moped).
SwampWoman said…
Has Harry's Diana award video been mentioned already? Love the hand gestures :)

He's a much better speaker than she is.
Lily Love said…
@Hikari

I 1000% agree.
Hikari said…
@Swampie

He's a much better speaker than she is.

Haz talks incredibly fast, and with his voice being so low, it's hard to catch everything. He has been studying at the Markle Actors Studio of Hand Gestures, though. The bosom-clutching on him is even more stupid than when she does it.

But Hazza's hand gestures/worrying have always struck me as rather femme. He seems to be an empty vessel into which Meg has poured her own particular brand of poisonous suggestion.

For a guy who is so often obviously under the influence of something, with the toll of his newfound 'freedom' hanging heavily on him, I am surprised that he was able to cope with such verbose and complex sentences, which he must have been reading from a teleprompter.

If Meg is directing these Hostage Harry segments, I'm surprised she doesn't find more colorful backgrounds. Harry is quite nearly disappearing into the wall. I guess that's what she wants.
CatEyes said…
Who is going to hire Meghan or Harry now they are screaming about 'institutionalized racism'...the very studios are scared of 'me too' claims and in these times are also being abundantly cautious about any appearance of racism.

Who would want Harry yammering on about his victimhood starting with *Flashbulbs giving him PTSD, his poor dear wife getting beaten up in the press, the UK public indeed the world being racist against Meghan and now his horrid family are nothing but entrenched bigots as part of a bigger system of institutional racism. Maybe some would want to hear Harry speak but you couldn't pay me to sit through his claptrap sh*t for any amount of money.

Maybe Harry is precisely accusing the BRF of institutional racism because there is a very real threat of them getting their titles stripped, etc... If they do cut off funding and strip the titles the Harry can say, see what did I say, they ARE Racists, look what they did to us when we spoke out. I think Harry is committing a form of blackmail. We all know one doesn't give in to blackmailers. I only hope the Queen or Charles is strong enough to do what is needed.
Miz Malaprop said…
@ Cateyes

Yes, California beaches are public, but ACCESS to some beaches can be hard to find. There's always been rich homeowners building gates and blocking entry to public beaches and a lack of parking. In other words, some public beaches are more public than others.
KCM1212 said…
@swampwoman

It would be great if an anonymous source, upon being asked for a comment, would just sigh deeply and utter "Poor Meghan. Her mental health is very fragile. Everybody is quite worried for her

Yes! "a friend", or better yet....Omid!!! Lol

@WBBM
Remember the story about the old lady in the African village who fled from her, saying she was a witch? I wonder what she `saw' that led her to that view? Did she see a hate-filled glare aimed at someone innocent?

I haven't heard that one! Yesss!! I have to look for that one.
KCM1212 said…
@hikari

Or come to believe that Charles, the fathead, has given them their years allowance up front instead of doling it out monthly.

Which is why the huge PR blast now. She is running low on funds and feels that she needs to spend it all before she sends Harry, hat in hand for more. Megs would believe in doubling down on the PR, as an "investment" .

Why wouldn't asking for more work? It has several times before. And she is sure they aren't going to let PH and Archie go begging.

And I don't think they will. As much shame as the Sussexes bring on the RF, how much more is in letting them rot.

Maybe your budget for them would work. She won't believe it at first, but after a few tries, perhaps.

This is really incredible, isn't it? I have never seen anything like this.

And wow am I sorry that any of you all have. The pain they inflict on innocent people!



E said…
A final word on Royals at War: do NOT waste hard-earned money on this.

After all, it specifically notes that Megs accompanied JH to Skippy's wedding. Where she mingled with his friends and got her first look at life in the royal spotlight. What BS!
abbyh said…


Luxem - ...So M thinks the Queen is a dictator who can shut down the press on top of all the other "misconceptions" she had about royal life?

Wouldn't it be sweet revenge if the MoS lawyers said they wanted proof that M was actually pregnant if that was the impetus for her friends' concerns that caused them to speak to People magazine?


oh man, that is a wonderful comment about royalty as dictators! And the proof request idea - that is really good. It would be boom! It would be clean for the BRF (plausible deniability as in they probably didn't track or publicize any of the doctor visits for anyone else so why would they think to do this for her?

Button - I think you might be on a nice track of thinking regarding the narc rage ramping up right before the next part of the MOS lawsuit picks up again. And or Karma is laughing.



MidwestGal said…
There is a great deal of difference between the appearance of a 70 year old woman and an 80 year old woman. I imagine the difference is even greater that that of an 84 year old woman and a 94 year old. The appearance of a dowager hump by the age of 94 is almost inevitable, no matter how great one's exercise regime has been. I am 82 and marvel at the Queen's discipline. I find her clothes are colorful and comfortable as well as superbly tailored. She has her particular favorites, such as her low heeled shoes and purse. Even her makeup is remarkably suited to her. You have no idea how hard it is to darken white eyebrows subtly. If you look at pictures of previous queens such as Queen Mary you will see a plethora of brooches, necklaces and other jewelry. There is a history of multiple jewelry among the royals in formal attire.
KCM1212 said…
Who do I see about the PTSD (Pregnancy Trickery & Simulation Disgust) I suffer from as a result of the cost-flicking and bump clutching?

I have an absolute aversion to a red/purple color combination
now.

I suffer, I really do.


Crumpet said…
@Hikari,

Re larf, barf Harry.

Here is a quote from P G Wodehouse (one of the funniest British writers of all time)! I think this quote can perfectly describe JH.

"He had just about enough intelligence to open his mouth when he wanted to eat, but certainly no more."
KCM1212 said…
*coat flicking, of course
Wolpertinger said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-8485159/Check-privilege-Harry-lecturing-McMansion-writes-JAN-MOIR.html

KCM1212 said…
@crumpet
I love Plum Wodehouse!

The first author who got me evicted from a class for laughing too hard while my fellows were finishing their tests.

I doubt if anyone would have to sit in the hall nowadays for that particular crime.

I didn't mind, I could stretch out on a bench and stealthily chew gum.

Harry would fit right in at Blandings Castle.
Crumpet said…
@KCM1212

Thanks for that F U N N Y vid link, he does a great Harry hostage video take off!
Crumpet said…
@KCM1212

Perhaps we need to rename MM The Empress, after the most favorite pig at Blandings Castle.
Sharon said…
Sharon aka Poodle 12 here:

Wild Boar Battle-Maid, you are an absolute international treasure.

I seek out your posts always, loving British history, and all history, as I do.

Between your erudition and your plain good sense, it's a pleasure and an honor to read your thoughts. I also should mention your great flair for writing.

Thank you; and thanks to Nutty for providing this forum for some brilliant women (and occasionally men).
KCM1212 said…
@wolpertinger

Great article!!
Grisham said…
I’m suspecting Harry’s personality is a lot like Phillip’s.
Hikari said…
@KCM

If what you suggest is true, and Charles gave them a lump sum for the “probation year”, and they’ve run through it already in less than three months, then just too effing bad, The milk bar is closed. Charles will have discharged his duties as Harry’s father to provide for him out of his share of the Duchy moneyAnd whatever portion of the Sovereign Grant is still coming to them. I kind of think that was removed along with their HRHs Since they are no longer working Royals, nor do they reside in Britain. If Harry’s running low on security funds out of the allowance his father already gave him for it, too effing bad again, he will have to dip into his own money, or Meg can mercy some shit If anyone is still willing to pay her to do that and contribute. I know the notion of Meg contributing to anything is droll. Madame only takes.

They can work out a special arrangement for Archie’s expenses, and his only, administered by someone selected by the Duchy Comptroller Anything the crown has contributed to megs lawsuit against mail on Sunday, should be added to their tab for Frogmote Cottage, With interest, and any other payments to the court to Cease forthwith. Again, let Harry pay since he’s in cahoots with his wife. If they can’t pay the lawyers or the court costs, she will just have to drop the suit all together and wouldnt that be a shame. Time for the family to play hardball, and say they will restore everything taken away in Megxit If the Harkles return to London, Or JH and Archie alone, even better. After a suitable period of quarantine, Archi can meet his great grandparents for the first time in over a year. Or perhaps the first time ever. In exchange that will be a tiny packet of money for Meg, but she absolutely must present the baby notice Archie to his Royal family. If she refuses, and continues to be obdurate in a possible divorce, The family blows the whistle on everything to do with Archie. The only way to deal with a toxic Black mailer is to turn the blackmail around on her head. Meg will lose All of Her bargaining chips if the royal family admit that they have been sheltering her and her lies for two years. They will take some heat for it, but I believe in the end they will prevail, because there are 1000-year-old institution and she’s a two bit hustling grifter from LA. The rules of noblesse oblige Have to be tossed out when it comes to Meg. No more helping her hide all her skeletons. Let them all hang out. Without the royal money, she won’t be able to continue her smear campaign in the press. The RF has plenty of money for press and they can completely destroy her. The racism charge is blunt If it’s confronted head on. Lord Geidt could always be taken out of my files and sent to Tyler Perry’s house for a convincer.
Hikari said…
Tidy not tiny, and mothballs not my files!
Hikari said…
@tatty

Harry strongly resembles his grandfather physically, but I think it’s a smear to say that Philip is like Harry in his personality. Harry is weak, disloyal, And stupid, lazy, with a lifelong history of underachievement and entitlement. He was an abject failure as an army officer, And took a shat All over the royal Marines, the patronage near and dear to Phillip’s heart. Philip was also demonstrably a strong hand in his own household. The queen is alpha in her role of state, but she deferred to Philip absolutely at home. It is said that Philip had a penchant for the lassies and for The occasional politically incorrect remark. Harry certainly shares those last two in common, But in what other ways Do you find him psychologically like his grandfather? If anything Harry's more like Charles in his weaker facets. If Philip recognizes himself in Harry He probably wouldn’t have cut him dead in January by fleeing Sandringham.
CatEyes said…
@tatty

I can't see it but maybe you can detail the similarities?
Shaggy said…
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KCM1212 said…
@Hikari

How do we get you in front of PC and HM? A cell phone number? Those boys from Chunga Chunga could help. You are so clear sighted. And you are right, almost any way this is resolved could be resolved with a bump to the RF. If they act.

Left to their own devices, Harry and Megs could turn that bump into the Rockies.

And again I ask, is Lord Geidt completely toothless? If his position is vacant, run to London, Hikari. They need you.
KCM1212 said…
Lol

New name compliments of the best-soap-opera-ever nlog:

Skid Markle

Aquagirl said…
@KCM1212: I second your suggestion to have @Hikari replace Lord Geidt. He started out with that aggressive handshake with Megsy, but where has he been? Can’t he handle this two-bit grifter? I have two theories: 1) he is totally inept; 2) he is the one placing all of the recent articles in the DM to make MM look like the insane person that she is and he’s waiting for the fall-out. But in either case, Hikari’s assistance is definitely needed to move this forward. How many years can this drag on FFS?

Just got off the phone with a friend who doesn’t follow any of this. She wanted to talk about the Ghislaine arrest and asked what I thought the BRF would do about both PA & the Harkle’s. The world is watching now, and it’s time for HM & PC to act. If they don’t, it’s at their peril.
HappyDays said…
Narcissists take every opportunity they can to portray themselves as victims. Meghan casts herself in any number of victim roles she can squeeze into.

Narcs use the “Poor me, I’m a helpless victim” tactic to disarm and distract people, especially their targets, away from their selfish, devious agendas.

Meghan cast herself as Diana 2.0 to, in part, distract Harry from her true motives because she knew Harry thought Diana was a victim of the press and even now sees himself by association as a victim too.

She also cast herself as an orphaned waif with no real family of her own. The only detail is that she failed to tell Harry she had dumped everyone in her family save Doria, who was still useful to help Meghan play the race card on Harry and the RF.

Although she lives as and has, up to recently, strongly identified as white, Meghan occasionally used the race card to claim victim status. She has now fully latched on to POC status because it’s currently to her advantage for self advancement.

Now more than a year after allegedly giving birth, Meghan is attempting to use pregnancy as a means to claim victim status. But the last time I checked, pregnancy isn’t a disease and not a reason to claim victim status, especially by an allegedly strong, independent, feminist such as Meghan. But her narcissism rules, so she is trying to claim it as such.
CatEyes said…
Like one poster said in the last day or so, maybe the BRF is waiting for one more big crisis with the HAMS or madame before they lower the boom.

I am betting they are waiting till the MoS wins the case and Meghan is proven to be a liar big time and she is humiliated in the media for it. Indeed I would not be surprised to see if her surrogacy is revealed now that she has tendered it as an element in the case. What a crisis that will be for Meghan and Harry too. I think then the BRF could start gently sending out PR how poor Harry is a bit daft and subject to coercion by Meghan's delusional or outright devious plans to alter the line of succession. Then Parliament could bring her up on treason charges and boy that would finish her off in more ways than one.
HappyDays said…
Willie’sBucket and lizzie said.

I think this is to explain why 5 friends went to PEOPLE when she was "heavily pregnant" (in January, haha) And to explain why she shared the letters with them because she was so stressed and unprotected by anyone.

@ Wullie’s Bucket and lizzie:

I have a difficult time reconciling Meghan being “heavily pregnant” in January and still being able to attend a three-day baby shower extravaganza IN LATE FEBRUARY that required her to fly to and back from NYC.

Not only did she attend her own shower, the “heavily pregnant” duchess managed to flit around NYC with a group of security officers from the US Department of State and her UK security team as well.

Wow, that woman is such a little trooper to be able to strut around in her obviously fragile condition. (Dripping with sarcasm.)
Magatha Mistie said…

Harry’s Ode to Megsy
nicked from Neil Sedaka

Oh Megsy, I am but a fool
Megsy, I love you though you treat me cruel
You hurt me, and you made me cry
But if you leave me, I will surely die...
Cass said…
She didn’t look a bit “stressed” at that baby shower. Or during the, how many days?, she spent gallivanting around with her friend(s)!!!!!!!!
Cass said…
Oh! i get it ...the trip to NYC to meet up with friends and go traipsing around, while” heavily pregnant”, was to escape the stress she was experiencing in the UK!!!!!!! Gotcha!
Fifi LaRue said…
The Evil Eye. How intriguing. I do hope one of the books includes the story of the African woman running in horror and fear from Meghan. Most likely the woman was the local shaman. Shamans are shamans for good reason.
Cass said…
She does give off some kind of evil vibes!!!!!!!!
Magatha Mistie said…
@Fifi LaRue (fab name)

The EVil Eye, “ Megusa “
CatEyes said…
And "Megruesome"
Cass said…
MAYHEM and HARRYette
Aquagirl said…
@Cass: She looked so relaxed in NY because:

1) she had access to her ‘hobbies’

2) she didn’t have to wear that pesky baby bump

3) she was able to spend time with her BFF, Markus

4) she was surrounded by famous people, who in her prior life, wouldn’t have given her the time of day, including Amal, Serena, and Gayle King (who she’d never even met)

5) she alerted the press, and had established ‘barriers’ for them at The Mark hotel

All in all, a narcissist’s dream.

If the BRF had balls, they’d publish the pic of her high out of her mind with a totally flat stomach hanging onto her buddy, Markus. That would clearly answer the ‘I wasn’t supported while I was pregnant’ claims. But, sadly, one can only dream.
Cass said…
The “Slutchess of Suck sex
Magatha Mistie said…

A’rach’nophobia
Cass said…
Archie - (poor baby) - BABY HUEY!
iknowpeople said…
Re: Oprah...

On a late Sunday afternoon before Oprah was OPRAH!, I happened to look up from a round rank of clothes in Marshall Field’s, a then thriving department store chain in the U.S., to see an Black woman searching threw the same rack. It took me a minute or so to realize who it was. The woman is not at all attractive without the assistance of her make-up and hair team. (Not insult when it’s factual.) As she lived in the Water Tower condo building above the store and given the hour, no doubt she thought she was okay going out “as is.”
iknowpeople said…
“rack,” not “rank.”
Cass said…
Mental Markle!
Cass said…
I wonder if from here on out Mayhem will identify as African American. Or will she switch back and forth depending on the situation.?
CatEyes said…
'BarelyHarry'

'CarryMeHarry'
Magatha Mistie said…

Harryassed & Harried
CatEyes said…
I am surprised Harry is not identifying as a POC since allegedly two of his ancestors were (some Nuttie mentioned this some days ago but I forgot the names).
Cass said…
HARRY - ASSED!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
CatEyes said…
You people are on fire tonight. Lol
CatEyes said…
'Marklecarbuncle'
Cass said…
HAIRY LESS....or HAIRLESS.
Cass said…
Barnacle Markle
CatEyes said…
Meghan has a carbuncle,
a red Hairy one on her ass
which is just fine with this scheming lass
because its a barnacle of the ruling class.
Cass said…
“Eunuch of Sussex“
Cass said…
Have we already used the most obvious one...”NUT MEG”
Cass said…
Harry No Nutts!
Cass said…
o.k. I’m done. g’night. But please continue!!!!!!!!I want to wake up to some real doozies!!!!! 😂
Magatha Mistie said…
@CatEyes

The carbuncle on our Megs ass
I think we should give it a pass
To burst it will blow it
and no doubt will show it
She’s the lass with no class, just all sass
Magatha Mistie said…
@Cass

Cheers, I have to go also, floors to clean etc... 🧽
CatEyes said…
Harry can be so daft
he's quite the laugh
but only half of the sussex pair
while his wife who really doesn't care
as long as he keeps his blimey hair.

Meghan wants the dear
to go along or maybe fear
and dread
being kicked out of the marital bed
which would mean no fun and he'd be done
just like his beloved guns.

Both will grift the royal few
which really isn't something new
for Megsy and Harry too
But the family is so very through
that they wont listen
to a single boo-hoo
from the nasty two.

CatEyes said…
Great job ladies! You have provided enjoyment at the expense of these two awful people.
Goodnight.
Aquagirl said…
Not sure if the latest HarryMarkle was mentioned. The date on the post says July 2nd, but since I’m in a different time zone, who knows? But it’s a must read. She is, more than ever, calling them out on their shit.
Lily Love said…
@Aquagirl

I know. In fact I think it is one of her best articles. The only that Charles and the RF can do at this point is to completely cut them off and make them fend for themselves.
Shaggy said…
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Aquagirl said…
@Lily: Agree. I’ve always appreciated her posts, due to her knowledge of the BRF as well as the UK laws. But in this recent post, she totally hit it out of the park. And, seriously, Charles, or someone else, needs to step up.
Lily Love said…
@Aquagirl

Unfortunately I don’t see Charles doing that. So I think it is going to be left up to William to take care of the troublesome duo.
Aquagirl said…
Hi @ Wullie’s Bucket. Hope all is well. I commented on her ‘pregnancy’ in NYC a few posts above this one. Totally disgusting behavior on her part, yet a perfect ‘out’ for the BRF, if they wanted to take that route. Just saying.
Aquagirl said…
@Lily: Agree again. William is the only hope. I thought that Lord Geigt (sp.) was brought in to ‘handle’ MM, but, so far, he hasn’t done so. Idk how long you’ve been following this situation, but apparently PC & PA got him fired initially and HM brought him back. Idk if he’s still involved.

OTOH: The Ghislaine arrest is bringing a great deal of attention. Both PA & MM seem to be involved, from what I know. So maybe it’s just a wait and see?
Nutty Flavor said…
Good morning, all!

From yesterday's Popbitch:

Unhappy returns <<
The subtle shade of lawyers

New filings in the Markle v Mail trial see Meghan's legal team claiming her and Harry's wedding brought in around £1bn in tourist revenue; a sum that would more than offset the £32m in taxpayers' money spent on it.

As taxpayer money is often the reason given to justify aggressive reporting, it's no surprise to see the topic coming up – but if the Sussexes think the Mail is going to respond well to talk of healthy returns on investment, it's probably only going to get their backs up further.

Before the wedding, the Mail on Sunday spared no expense in publishing a big exposé of those infamously staged photos of Thomas Markle. Though the story has since mushroomed into an absolutely massive drama, that particular front cover bombed at the newsstands.

An insider tells us it performed so poorly for the MoS that even a cover story about a deeply unsexy visa scandal involving Sajid Javid the previous week had sold better. So these new boasts of just how profitable the couple are capable of being are going to salt those wounds up a treat.

Nutty Flavor said…
I should add that I happened to be in London shortly before the Sussex marriage - perhaps the weekend before, not sure now - and saw almost no references to the upcoming nuptials.

No pubs announcing party viewings, no special posters or decoration. I do remember seeing a biscuit tin with the Sussexes' face on it in a shop, but then on a visit a few months I remember seeing a similar biscuit tin on deep discount. It was sitting on the shelf next to a Cambridge biscuit tin without a deep discount.

Bottom line: I agree with the Popbitch angle that the Sussex wedding didn't bring in all that much money for anybody, except the Sussexes themselves.

Plus, the planning was so last-minute and awful. Do you remember that awful floppy wedding cake?
Jdubya said…
Morning Nutty - 8:30 where you are and 11:30 pm where I am and it's about time for me to call it a night. Of course, fireworks are going off so it'll be noisy for awhile longer. People here love their"booms".
Nutty Flavor said…
Yes, I remember that. We get it mostly on New Year's Eve.
Lily Love said…
@nutty

Harry and Meghan are going to bury themselves with all of these frivolous lawsuits.

I don’t know of anyone that was excited about their wedding. Their engagement interview was the first sign of trouble and I think most people saw the writing on the wall.
Unknown said…
@Nutty That claim about H&M's wedding being a boon to the U.K. economy is pure hogwash. I pay attention to the European markets and across the board, U.K. tourism was down in 2018 IN SPITE of a Royal Wedding:

U.K. got Markled in 2018. There are tons of articles on the subject. I'm reposting an article I posted earlier:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/is-brexit-to-blame-for-falling-uk-visitor-numbers/
Unknown said…
I'd like to see what sort of models Brand Finance is using to get those numbers. They have a strong incentive to not antagonize the BRF and claim a boon for obvious reasons. Meg is using that to her advantage.
Aquagirl said…
Good morning @Nutty! So happy that you were able to mostly avoid the Sussex nuptials. That being said, your experience totally supports the fact that the wedding was planned last minute, after MM accepted, then denied,!the pay-off to cancel the wedding. Everything was half-assed.
Aquagirl said…
@Jdubya: I can relate. I normally sleep through anything, but the fireworks are just too much. It’s like a constant assault. Sending you sweet dreams.
Unknown said…
re: JCMHFKAP biking

Anyone else think the story of JCMHFKAP biking in Malibu when another hostage video dropped is suspicious? The story sounds like a pre-emptive strike to prevent speculation he's in the U.K. like his other videos did.

re: JCMHFKAP having PP's Personality

I second what @Hikari says and think JCMHFKAP takes after Charles. JH is very wishy-washy and is highly averse to confrontation. PC is the same but he hasn't let his "emotional upheaval" get on camera the way JH has. IMHO, Wills takes mostly after PP but has some of the polish of HMTQ.

re: JCMHFKAP Speaking Skills

I second what @Swampwoman says and think JCMHFKAP is a much better speaker than Meg. Every great public speaker has extensive training and brilliant speech writers. JH has lost access to that because of Meg. I like Wills but I do think Harry has an emotional touch and an ability to modulate feeling from listeners.

Meg's speeches obviously lack depth but her biggest problem is an inability to connect. When she cannot play by the rules or be nice with family, what else can be expected.
Will Meghan’s big ambition backfire?
The divide between the Sussexes and the Firm appears to be widening. Camilla Tominey reports on what it means for the Queen


The latest salvo from the Duke and Duchess of Sussex hardly bodes well for future royal relations.

Any suggestion that Meghan felt “unprotected” by the Royal Family while pregnant with Archie looks likely to rub salt into the wounds of a relationship that is nowhere near healed, following the couple’s decision to split from the Firm in January.

Some in Royal circles have even started to wonder whether the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh will ever see their one-year-old great-grandson Archie again amid the escalating row.

In explosive documents filed at the High Court to support her legal case against the Mail on Sunday, the 38-year-old Duchess claims she was left “undefended by the institution” in the face of negative publicity.

Spelling out her frustrations with the Palace’s approach to the media, the extraordinary submissions suggest that she was “prohibited from defending herself” against apparently false stories.

Putting on the record the conflict between the Palace and Meghan’s differing approaches for the first time, the paperwork states the institution’s policy of “no comment” was deployed “without any discussion with or approval by the Claimant.”

Having long lived by the Queen’s doctrine of “never complain, never explain,” the Palace’s official reaction to all this has, naturally, been “no comment”. Yet behind gilded gates there are growing concerns at the lengths Meghan appears willing to go to in order to win.

Meghan is suing the newspaper for publishing extracts from a handwritten letter she sent to her father, Thomas Markle Snr, in August 2018, three months after he failed to walk her down the aisle.

The newspaper claims the contents had already been made public in an interview given by Meghan’s friends to People magazine, in February 2018, with her blessing. The Duchess denies that she “knowingly” allowed her “sisterhood” to leak the correspondence – effectively breaching her own privacy.

Yet what is, at its heart, a straightforward claim, now appears to have turned into full scale war against the media – and by association, the Windsors.

How ironic that Harry and Meghan should leave Britain to avoid unwarranted intrusion in their lives, only for an almighty publicity storm to have been brewed up by this case.

Eyebrows have been raised in Royal circles at suggestions Meghan has endured “hundreds of thousands of inaccurate articles about her” – with some questioning whether the Duchess understands the difference between untrue headlines and simply negative ones.

Few can have failed to have noticed that the latest bombshell only serves to confirm the very reports Meghan has been complaining about: headlines suggesting that she and Harry felt they were bigger than the club they belonged to, and were not willing to play by the rules.

Many are now starting to question what victory may look like if the Sussexes end up burning all their bridges – not just with the Palace but the British public, too.

Although insiders insist that “family bonds remain strong” between Harry and his grandmother, the perception that the couple are disrespecting the Queen is likely to hinder their Stateside relaunch. While their US fanbase remains impregnable, Brits didn't react well to them announcing they were stepping down as senior royals in January without telling the 94-year-old monarch first.

As royal author Phil Dampier put it: “I think the Queen is going to be absolutely devastated by this. She’ll cope with it but she will feel desperately betrayed. She broke with protocol to invite Meghan to Christmas at Sandringham before they were married, and the couple ended up with a beautiful multi-million pound home in the middle of Windsor Great Park. Some will be wondering: what more did they want?”
Part II

The answer perhaps lies buried in the legal papers. In one section, about the level of “wealth and privilege” the couple enjoyed in Britain, the Duchess’s team say their public funding was “relatively nominal,” with costs for their May 2018 wedding met by the Prince of Wales and paid security only for the protection of crowds.

This “was far outweighed by the tourism revenue of over one billion pounds sterling that was generated from the royal wedding … which went directly to the public purse,” claim the legal documents, which do not quote a source for the figure. Republic, the anti-monarchy campaign group has described this as “complete fiction”.

But the precise figure is somewhat irrelevant. Potentially more harmful to the Sussexes is the implication that they not only think they are worth it – but worth more.

In the era of coronavirus, with millions set to lose their jobs, some may find the idea of their vast wealth being “relatively nominal” tone deaf. Relatively nominal compared to Beyoncé and Jay-Z, perhaps – but the average Brit earning £29,000 a year? Possibly not.

Equally damaging is the seemingly mercenary motivation behind trying to compare Meghan to Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie – and even Prince Michael of Kent – in her quest to be “allowed to undertake paid work”, when they were never full-time royals, nor received any public funding.

Most upsetting to the royal household, however, will undoubtedly be the suggestion that the couple were hung out to dry.

Some staff not only bent over backwards in a bid to meet their demands, but at considerable cost to their own personal lives. It has been well documented that between September 2018 and October 2019, the Sussexes lost five aides and one female royal protection officer.

Part III

Nonetheless, the Palace’s reaction appears to be one of sadness rather than anger.

“Calm” discussions are understood to have taken place between relevant parties yesterday, who are under no illusions that there will be more damaging revelations to come.

It is not just the Markle vs Markle court revelations that it is braced for but also the publication, on August 11, of Finding Freedom, a biography of Harry and Meghan that appears to have been sanctioned by the couple. Other books including a scathing tome by Lady Colin Campbell have already been released, with more biographies in the offing.

The Palace has “no idea” what is going to be in Finding Freedom, written by journalists Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand, although aides understand one of the main themes will be “the role of the institution” in their departure.

Yet courtiers don’t seem to be overly worried, theorising that post-Covid 19, the public is increasingly looking to figures like the Queen, and the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, to put duty first. The sovereign's enduring popularity has always been built on her ability to overcome adversity through remaining visible and using hard work to counter any negativity.

They are hoping, perhaps not unreasonably, that the Sussexes will be perceived as self-indulgent by comparison.

And what of their US relaunch? Having previously posed a threat to the Royals by setting up in direct competition in America, the pandemic has put Archewell, their not-for-profit organisation, on hold. An Apple TV+ series on mental health with Oprah Winfrey is yet to be given a release date, although sources say “work is still on track”.

In the meantime the couple, who continue to be advised by Sunshine Sachs PR, have also signed up to A-list speaker’s agency, Harry Walker of New York, which represents the Obamas. Unshackled from the monarchy, there is a sense the couple intends to become increasingly political, as witnessed by Harry’s recent claim that institutional racism is “endemic” in society. There has even been talk of Meghan running for the White House.

The trial, however, looks set to dominate headlines in the weeks to come. The only saving grace is that it may require the couple to return to their Britain – an opportunity, perhaps, for the Queen and Philip, 99, to finally see their youngest great-grandchild again.
Unknown said…
I'm so glad Blind Gossip brought up Meg's letter again. In light of what Lady C says that Meg wanted it known that her father sexually abused her, that letter reads absolutely bizarre.

I wouldn't dismiss sexual abuse claims based on the fact the victim maintained good relations with the abuser. However, they would not have written a letter to their abuser the way Meg did. I find Meg's claims of abuse highly suspect because of that letter.
tatty said, I’m suspecting Harry’s personality is a lot like Phillip’s.


Then you don’t know much about Philip! They are as different as chalk and cheese. He’s got the worst of his Mother’s traits and a petulant spoilt attitude to bolster it. What an insult to Philip.
Maneki Neko said…
So now, 'Meghan Markle felt 'unprotected' by the Royal 'institution' because it could not defend her against stories in the press that angered her but were true, sources have claimed.' (DM)

If the stories were false, I'd understand, but true?? Is she mad? What does she expect? Or were the stories not positive and flattering enough? Anyway, why would she want protection from a racist and toxic family?

I hope this pushes Charles to cut off their funds.
Lord Geidt doesn’t occupy the role he had before, he’s current position is Permanent Lord in Waiting. Within that role it isn’t his job nor his responsibility to have any dealings with sorting out and dealing with Megsy or Harry.
CatEyes said-

`...his horrid family are nothing but entrenched bigots as part of a bigger system of institutional racism...'

`Maybe Harry is precisely accusing the BRF of institutional racism because there is a very real threat of them getting their titles stripped, etc... If they do cut off funding and strip the titles the Harry can say, see what did I say, they ARE Racists, look what they did to us when we spoke out. I think Harry is committing a form of blackmail.'


You've put your finger on it here, CatEyes, you're spot on!

Sowing and nurturing the seeds of the idea that the RF is racist allows them to say `You're only doing that because Meghan's black and you're racists.'

Narcissists play really dirty - they create false narratives with their lies which they then use to prove their point. They can twist anything. I'd managed to forget many of the tactics, tricks and psychological games but it's all coming back to me now...

Eric Berne's The Games People Play was published in 1964, I see. I reckon a whole new book could be written devoted to narcissists. In Transactional Analysis terms, Harry's in Critical Parent mode in his Diana day video, for example. All the whingeing is pure Child.

Any Nutties strong on TA? I think they play `Kick Me' and `See What You Made Do'. Harry may be trying `Brown Bag' but failing to curb Nut Megs's extravagance, despite his, ahem, `poverty chic'.

Berne offered counter-moves to all the games - I wonder if any of them would work here if applied by the RF? Frankly though, I can't imagine either of the offenders ever moving into an authentic Adult mode.

What do other armchair shrinks think? Remember, we'e entitled to our opinions and are not bound by codes of professional ethics.

(Gee, thanks, Sharon aka poodle12.)
CatsEyes said, Then Parliament could bring her up on treason charges and boy that would finish her off in more ways than one.

Unfortunately our treason laws were pretty much abolished under PM Tony Blair, so that won’t happen, :o/
Hjortron said…
There's this headline in today's The Times: Palace press team ‘couldn’t defend Meghan against true stories’. Unfortunately it's behind the paywall.
Nutty said, Plus, the planning was so last-minute and awful. Do you remember that awful floppy wedding cake?

The wedding was not last minute, it had approx the same amount of time for planning compared to all the other recent royal weddings. 5 -6 engagement then the ceremony itself. Megsy is solely responsible for choosing that cake maker, I remember that titter in the media etc surrounding such a stupid and poor choice. It was atrocious, just like the hand held bowl food rather then a sit down wedding breakfast (aka wedding reception). :o/ She wanted everything different and non traditional from the start.
Maneki Neko said…
@Hjortron

It's in the DM - see my post @ 9.48

Also an article they published 2 days ago but which I've just seen, re their visit to Homeboy:

Speaking about the 'wonderful' time that Meghan, 38, and Harry, 35, spent visiting Homeboy Industries cafe and bakery last month, founder Father Greg Boyle praised the mother-of-one's linguistic skills, describing her 'perfect' Spanish as a 'revelation'.

She wasn't in Argentina that long, I think, and if her Spanish is as fluent as her French, then it's schoolgirl Spanish.
bootsy said…
If MM claims the taxpayer spent/paid 1 billion in tax to cover the wedding then she's basically praising an uptick in consumption, let alone an influx of tourists who would most likely have flown into town. All of which the new environmentalists of MM and PH would most certainly be against?

Responsible tourism and all that. Sounds a bit hypocritical doesn't it
jessica said…
I was living in London, in Notting Hill near Hyde Park (for those that don’t know, that’s where Kensington Palace is) during the wedding.
I didn’t see anything about them that day, in or around pubs. No celebrations of anything. It was just another day. I remember this because I was thinking there would be traffic and noise and all those things you need to prepare for living in city life- road closures, park closures. Nope. Nada.
Hjortron said…
@Maneki Neko, thanks.
Nutty Flavor said…
Here comes the Times story, by Valentin Low:

Palace press team ‘couldn’t defend Meghan against true stories’

The Duchess of Sussex felt that she was unprotected by the royal “institution” because she could not do anything about the stream of stories about her deteriorating relationship with her staff, The Times has learnt.

Meghan’s lawyers have said in legal papers filed at the High Court that her mental health was damaged by negative coverage while she was pregnant.

In a passage that underlines how the duchess turned her fire on the people who used to work for her, the lawyers said that she was “unprotected by the institution, and prohibited from defending herself”.

A source has confirmed that this refers to the palace machinery, rather than members of the family: above all, in other words, her former media team. “No one thinks this is going to end well,” a source said. “For anyone.”
Nutty Flavor said…
Other passages in the documents — a response from her lawyers to questions raised by The Mail on Sunday, which Meghan is suing for breach of privacy — spell out her unhappiness with the Kensington Palace communications team and their policy of not commenting on press reports.

Her anger grew over two strands of stories dominating the news agenda about her: her relations with staff, especially the number who had quit, and the criticism of her by her family, especially Samantha Grant, her half-sister.

One story that made the duchess particularly dissatisfied was the resignation of her PA, Melissa Toubati, who quit six months after the royal wedding in 2018. There were reports that she had been reduced to tears by Meghan’s demands.

However, the communications team found it hard to deny the reports because they were largely true. “The stories were a drop in the ocean compared to what was going on,” another source said. Meghan, 38, also wanted something done about the sniping from Ms Grant, who among other things called her sister “a shallow social climber”. Kensington Palace was never going to get involved over one woman voicing her opinions from Florida.
Nutty Flavor said…
Media silence from Kensington Palace left the duchess frustrated. Already angry at her father over his behaviour before the wedding — he posed for fake paparazzi pictures and failed to attend the ceremony — and at the media for the way they reported it, her fury increased as the negative stories started to dominate her press coverage.

The legal documents underline the lengths the duchess went to when she wrote to her father after the wedding urging him not to talk to the media. Extracts from the letter were published in The Mail on Sunday. Her lawyers described how the letter was sent via her business manager in the US, rather than from Kensington Palace, to avoid interception. A copy was also sent to her US lawyer, on condition that he did not read it.

Although the letter was “private and personal”, David Sherborne, her counsel, said she discussed it with her husband, mother, two friends, the palace communications team and solicitor.

The duchess is suing The Mail on Sunday for misuse of private information, copyright infringement and breach of the Data Protection Act. The newspaper denies the claims.
Jessica said, I didn’t see anything about them that day, in or around pubs. No celebrations of anything. It was just another day. I remember this because I was thinking there would be traffic and noise and all those things you need to prepare for living in city life- road closures, park closures. Nope. Nada.

It showed the distinct taste of apathy and the general lack of interest in those two. No-one was really interested and I didn’t know of anyone who was.
Nutty Flavor said…
That's all.

Also, if she discussed it with "her husband, her mother, and two friends", how did five friends end up going to People Magazine?
Treason is still on the Statute Books. It just doesn't attract the Death Penalty any longer - just life imprisonment. No boiling alive, beheading, hanging-drawing-and-quartering or plain hanging.

Just as well, it'd have to be a unanimous verdict. Juries nowadays would be unlikely to convict as there's almost certainly to be jurors who don't want `blood on their hands'. They'd say `Not Guilty' in the face of the most damning evidence.

`Hindering the Succession' is an offence under the treason law - could they get her on this? Believing herself to be entitled to the throne could qualify for full-life detention under Mental Health legislation. I think, however, she'd have to be physically violent to end up in Broadmoor or other high security mental hospital. Again, it would depend on what, if anything, could be proved about what she's done, rather than what's she's said.

`Aiding a foreign power' - that would depend on being able to demonstrate her strings are being pulled by a state/organisation which is not a friend of Britain. That's a big unknown.

There's other legislation that could be pulled out, I'm sure. I think Harry Markle mentioned Criminal Conspiracy but it would need to be proved that MM, Doris and Markus were in cahoots.

Matrimonial legislation? Possibly, if it was judged not to be a `genuine' marriage.

Her fondness for litigation in the civil courts may yet prove her undoing but even failure there is no guarantee that she will shut up. After all, the law is an `institution' and in her mind is therefore `inherently racist'.

She'll carry on bleating until her dying breath.
Cat said…
@Raspberry Ruffle

My friend, living in a wealthy enclave in Surrey, told me they were having a street party (outside their automatic gates I suppose, we’re talking spaced houses here) to celebrate with the neighbours! I took that as an excuse just to get sloshed, but she was adamant it was a joyous happy royal event to be celebrated. I was like WTF! No one, not my hairdresser, work colleagues gave a stuff and I live in a small market town where one of Princess Diana’s flat mates came from and Prince Charles still visits from time to time. I don’t think people necessarily saw Markle for what she was, which I did having had a sister in law exactly the same, I think people were generally apathetic. The idea that the wedding brought in such a revenue to the coffers of the U.K. is ludicrous and with stories in the papers gathering pace surely it’s only a matter of time before something major happens.......Harry comes back as seriously mentally unwell would work, with the royal family rallying around him, but Markle being a narcissist anything could happen, as often does. The victim mentality is what my sister in law used. Was the victim of every type of behaviour she could think of, has overt sexual behaviour, disconnected parenting, chases wealth and social position ( 4 husbands), does things in the heat of the moment with no regard for future consequences or the fact that there is written evidence. I see all this in Markle and some.
@WBBM,

Seriously, if our watered down treason laws can’t bring about arrests of previous PM’s other statemen and high ranking individuals. What chance have we got it being used against Megsy? Zero hope. Though it would be a truly wonderful day in court. ;o)
Nutty Flavor said…
I think it's interesting that the Valentin Low piece quotes palace courtiers saying some of the stories are true, particularly the Melissa Toubati story, and that what was published was actually "a drop in the ocean compared to what was going on."

They must be tempted to do a huge information dump about what a mess Meghan was (and is.)

Give Dan Wootton at the Sun some really juicy stuff that he'll be happy to run with.
Raspberry Ruffle:

I too would love to see her permanent comeuppance.

I take your point but what we perceive as offences have to be against specific laws and the case has to be proved.

Presumably the charge against Charles I couldn't be resurrected - that he committed treason against his people. Dotty as that may sound, the prosecution proved it to their own satisfaction. (Btw, have you seen the bullet-proof hat worn by Bradshaw, the trial judge? It's in the Ashmolean at Oxford. I can't think it would have offered much protection!)

Are you thinking of the same politician as I am? No names of course. I'm sure he'd still love to be President of a UK republic!

Still, Al Capone came to grief over his tax affairs, so there's hope there.

I like to think I wouldn't wish death on anyone but I'm reminded of what an eminent cleric once said to the father of a friend. Her dad was churchwarden to a very difficult vicar with some years to go to retirement. At higher levels in the diocese this man was well-known as a pain in the anatomy, to the point that at one diocesan meeting, the Dean of Oxford, IIRC, said to friend's father `Well, Dr So-and-So, we must remember that while there's death, there's hope'. !!!

And there's always Palookaville as a destination.
Oh, to have been a fly on the wall at KP!

`Drop in the ocean'? It's mind-boggling!
Fairy Crocodile said…
Re a rumour of an African woman calling her a witch. Before dismissing this please consider this. I was personally witnessing a story where a man with a wife and three sons built a successful business only to fully surrender it to a woman nobody could describe as attractive in any way. He left his family, divorced his wife, totally changed behavior, started drinking heavily and behave erratically. He was totally under that woman's control, registered his business in her name and surrendered full control to her. His wife, desperate, went to somebody who told her he had been subjected to a black ritual that damaged him too much and there is no help. True, he died shortly after. I wouldn't believe anything like that if I didn't watch the tragedy. I know the wife personally.

There is more in haven and earth, as they say.

If it has any similarities with Harkles it may be too late for Harry already.
According to the story in today's DM, MM was angered by negative stories about her, even though they were true, and she's complaining that the palace didn't "protect" her from them.

So she was upset because the tabloids reported on her bad behavior? Really? What did she expect the palace to do - lie on her her behalf, tell the reporters that no, that didn't happen? She has to have the thinnest thin skin I've ever heard of. It looks like LCC's assessment of her is right: she is convinced that she is always right and any criticism sends her ballistic.

BTW, the high-priced lawyers in her lawsuit against the MoS as well as her expensive PR firm have to be costing the Harkles a mint. No wonder they have to couch surf - if all their money is going to lawyers and PR people, there's none left over for rent. But where is the money coming from? Is it just the allowance from Charles (which would mean that he is essentially funding their attacks on his family). Or is JH dipping into the money his mother left him (at this rate, there won't be much left).

Jdubya said…
Just came across this during my morning perusal while having a cuppa coffee.

https://www.bylineinvestigates.com/murdoch/2020/6/24/prince-harry-set-to-sue-the-sun-for-hiring-an-unlawful-private-investigator-to-spy-on-megan-markle

It's a gorgeous morning here - blue sky - rained during the night but supposed to be nice the next couple days. Coffee/shower/breakfast and then run some errands. Too wet to mow the lawn.


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Fairy Crocodile said…
@ Maneki Neko
And this is exactly why Markle will not beat the Palace in their own game of saying much with few words.

Palace has just in essense openly confirmed Markle wanted it to lie and went into a rage when it refused. It further confirms the negative stories about her not only true, but just the tip of the iceberg, thus giving credence to All negative rumours about her.

Genius.

CatEyes said…
@Wild Boar Battle-Maid

Thank you for posting that about Treason still being applicable to current UK society and in particular on the issue of interference with with royal succession. As usual your UK perspective is so informative!

CookieShark said…
Why haven't H&M sued over Lady C's book yet?
HappyDays said…
Nutty Flavor said…
I think it's interesting that the Valentin Low piece quotes palace courtiers saying some of the stories are true, particularly the Melissa Toubati story, and that what was published was actually "a drop in the ocean compared to what was going on."

They must be tempted to do a huge information dump about what a mess Meghan was (and is.)

@Nutty: It’s possible the palace is holding on to the additional negative info about Meghan until either a) They pull all the titles except Harry’s title of Prince by birth and totally cut all financial ties with them.
OR
b) They want ammunition for Harry and the RF to use against her if they eventually divorce.

I believe Meghan is in a huge narcissistic rage because she’s lost the control of all the cogs in the machine she built to propel herself into the stratosphere of wealth and status. Due to her overblown senses of entitlement and grandiosity, which are just dreams in her mind, Megxit was not well thought out, even if there had not been a pandemic.

Due to the manner they left the RF as working royals, they inflicted irreparable damage to themselves as a couple, and further damage to HER reputation/brand among corporate movers and shakers who might at one time thought about hiring her. The big shots know by now she is a bitchy diva who stabbed the Queen of England in the back.

Who in their right mind wants to cozy up to someone like that and do a business deal with her? If Meghan will stab HMTQ in the back, she’ll do it to anyone who Meghan perceives as crossing her.

My guess is she thought by now, she’d be rolling in money from all the plum roles, development projects, fashion tie-ins, monumental speeches, internet influencing and other assorted revenue streams which would allow her to tell the RF to “F” themselves.

So far, we haven’t seen any evidence that Meghan and Harry are raking money in by the truckload. In reality, it’s far more possible they may already be having financial issues. These two have a LOT of overhead just to run their lives on a daily basis.

Her legal action against the MoS doesn’t appear to be going well, they can’t use Sussex Royal, and the Archewell trademark paperwork filing hit some snags. The only media coverage they can get is one-off events with local charities. No red carpet events. No Met Gala. No fabulous parties. Just photos wearing face masks and home made videos.

Add to it the critical book coverage and possible news from Charles that the duchy income is taking a hit that may directly affect them, and you’ve got a narcissistic woman who has lost control over a lot of aspects of her life.

Loss of control for a narc is one of the necessities of life, and the frustration leads to narcissistic rage and OTT lashing out anything within range.

HappyDays said…
Also: The fact that William and Kate and their three cute kids seem to be doing quite well during the pandemic probably just makes her grind her teeth, er, veneers, in fits of jealousy, which only adds fuel to her rage.
The Times of London has published an article about MM's allegations that she felt "unprotected" from the negative media coverage. She apparently wanted palace officials to deny the story about her abusive behavior towards her PA, which not only reduced her to tears but also made her quit. The Times is reporting that not only was the story true, but MM's behavior was actually worse than what had been reported. MM also wanted to palace to make the tabloids stop reporting all the negative things her half-sister Samantha was saying about her. Ye gods, she really did want total control of press coverage.
xxxxx said…
SwampWoman said...
I'm reading this while listening to "The Last of the Mohicans" promontory. Seems fitting, somehow, since we all know that there won't/can't be a good outcome to The Sussex Sh*tshow

Need the video too. Movies today are pathetic in comparison/ ------ https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=145&v=FCY_4_svaWk&feature=emb_logo
Maneki Neko said…
Did we miss the new Harry Markle yesterday? (I did!). It's about Harry's video hijacking the Diana award. The cartoon at the end of Harry the puppet with MM pulling the strings is priceless.
lizzie said…
I realize court filings aren't sworn testimony. But I know (or think I know-- I'm not an attorney) in the US an attorney isn't supposed to assert things in filings he/she knows are untrue. How can filing Filing #1 assert the MoS publication of the letter interfered with the close relationship M had with her father and yet in Filing #2 assert she had no interest in reconciling with her father, that her letter was merely to tell him to stop talking to the press? Which is it? She had a warm relationship with TM or she was estranged with no interest in reconciliation? How can both be true? Or does it not matter in the UK? Is each filing a full "do over?" Does it even matter if the facts asserted have an evidentiary basis? (Besides my client's changing word?)
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@Charade wrote:

"I wouldn't dismiss sexual abuse claims based on the fact the victim maintained good relations with the abuser. However, they would not have written a letter to their abuser the way Meg did."

I suppose I can imagine an adult not confronting a childhood abuser for the sake of family unity (not that I think family unity matters to Meghan.)

But I absolutely can not imagine choosing (in adulthood) to voluntarily and repeatedly praise (by name) an abuser in blog posts when living 2500 miles away from family and from the abuser (while hardly ever mentioning anyone else in the family in said posts.) I absolutely can not imagine choosing to voluntarily praise an abuser in articles submitted to various national/international publications. I can not imagine choosing to voluntarily praise an abuser in interviews with national magazines. I can not imagine choosing to assert in court filings all the wonderful things I think I've done for my abuser re: my 2nd or 3rd wedding. And finally, I can not imagine choosing to pose for multiple photos with the abuser when 18+ years old, hugging him, while looking so deliriously happy.

I think the abuse claim is BS.
Maneki Neko said…
@Fairy Crocodile

@ Maneki Neko
And this is exactly why Markle will not beat the Palace in their own game of saying much with few words.
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Exactly, and she's just making things worse for herself every time. I think the BRF are just letting her self-destruct. Problem is, she's destroying Harry as well. As for Archie, this is anyone's guess.
CookieShark said…
@ Barbara

I highly suspect she is a narc. Narcs, unlike mature people, cannot accept that they may be imperfect/have failures/make mistakes. As a cable TV actress, she was probably able to manipulate her image through PR and controlling the narrative. But now the net is too wide, there are too many people watching and they can't all be controlled. She also has a need to have the final say on everything.

xxxxx said…
HappyDays said...
Nutty Flavor said…
I think it's interesting that the Valentin Low piece quotes palace courtiers saying some of the stories are true, particularly the Melissa Toubati story, and that what was published was actually "a drop in the ocean compared to what was going on."

They must be tempted to do a huge information dump about what a mess Meghan was (and is.)

@Nutty: It’s possible the palace is holding on to the additional negative info about Meghan until either a) They pull all the titles except Harry’s title of Prince by birth and totally cut all financial ties with them.
OR
b) They want ammunition for Harry and the RF to use against her if they eventually divorce.

I believe Meghan is in a huge narcissistic rage because she’s lost the control of all the cogs in the machine she built to propel herself into the stratosphere of wealth and status. Due to her overblown senses of entitlement and grandiosity, which are just dreams in her mind, Megxit was not well thought out, even if there had not been a pandemic.

Due to the manner they left the RF as working royals, they inflicted irreparable damage to themselves as a couple, and further damage to HER reputation/brand among corporate movers and shakers who might at one time thought about hiring her. The big shots know by now she is a bitchy diva who stabbed the Queen of England in the back.

Who in their right mind wants to cozy up to someone like that and do a business deal with her? If Meghan will stab HMTQ in the back, she’ll do it to anyone who Meghan perceives as crossing her.

My guess is she thought by now, she’d be rolling in money from all the plum roles, development projects, fashion tie-ins, monumental speeches, internet influencing and other assorted revenue streams which would allow her to tell the RF to “F” themselves.

So far, we haven’t seen any evidence that Meghan and Harry are raking money in by the truckload. In reality, it’s far more possible they may already be having financial issues. These two have a LOT of overhead just to run their lives on a daily basis.

Her legal action against the MoS doesn’t appear to be going well, they can’t use Sussex Royal, and the Archewell trademark paperwork filing hit some snags. The only media coverage they can get is one-off events with local charities. No red carpet events. No Met Gala. No fabulous parties. Just photos wearing face masks and home made videos.

Add to it the critical book coverage and possible news from Charles that the duchy income is taking a hit that may directly affect them, and you’ve got a narcissistic woman who has lost control over a lot of aspects of her life.

Loss of control for a narc is one of the necessities of life, and the frustration leads to narcissistic rage and OTT lashing out anything within range.


July 3, 2020 at 5:15 PM
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YOU Happy---Says it all and covers it all, Happy days. Thanks for taking the time....But really you have said all in a short distillation and spilled it all, Truth for July 4th/
xxxxx said…
SwampWoman said...
I'm reading this while listening to "The Last of the Mohicans" promontory. Seems fitting, somehow, since we all know that there won't/can't be a good outcome to The Sussex Sh*tshow

Need the video too. Movies today are pathetic in comparison/ ------ https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=145&v=FCY_4_svaWk&feature=emb_logo
@CatsEyes

Do you seriously think they’d use the treason law on Megsy?! Lol I think Edward VIII was far more of a serious risk to the country and crown....but they just shipped him off! With Megsy it will be a pay off via a divorce.
Regarding Harry's lawsuit against the Sun

Why is he the Claimant? He alleges the Sun hired an "illegal" American private investigator to gather information on Megsy, including her social security and phone numbers in 2016.

In 2016 Megsy was not legally associated with Harry in any way. She should be the claimant. Where is the provable damages to Harry?

Hiring a private investigator is not illegal, provided they use legitimate means to obtain the information.

Social security number can be obtained legally, from the court records for instance, although some states shield them. Same goes to the phone numbers. It is an illegal use of this information that constitutes the crime. Did the Sun commit a fraud using Megsy's security number and phone?

What is this trash? Perhaps our American Nuttiers can say something about this? At fiest glance this is another waste of court time and a frivolous lawsuit.
Fairy Crocodile, Regarding Harry's lawsuit against the Sun

This whole lawsuit and the other one with the MoS has little to no substance.

These lawsuits are solely about controlling the narrative. They are that desperate to change and control that and will use anything. It really doesn’t matter to them whether it looks foolish etc. They are totally self unaware and paranoid.
CatEyes said…
@Rasberry Ruffle

I will kindly answer your question although the tone of your question surprised me.

I and other Nutties have mentioned the use of treason as have many on other sites as well, so we think it is in the realm of possibilities (IMO more so than the 'tin hat' theory on thinking Archie has never been adopted by HAMS and he is with his 'real parents".)

Charges themselves don't have to be brought per se, just the possibility conveyed to her (or even Harry) could have a 'chilling effect' on her if communicated by Lord Geidt or a member of Parliament. And yes, not knowing the extent of what she has done it is quite possible she is a candidate for treason if she has deliberately deceived the Queen and Parliament about Archie being born of the body. What good is the law if its not enforced in appropriate circumstances.

As for the your mention of Edward VIII for comparison, he was a King (not a married-in disruptor) and he did the right thing? by voluntarily relinquishing his crown; not forcibly stripped of his title. I won't go into any Nazi sympathy he had because I don't know enough to comment. But if some Nutty thinks there is some comparison of Edward and Meghan ya'll can jump in as I don't see it.

I clearly see Harry's words as bordering on sedition btw. In some countries such an act would be a high crime and even punishable by death.

Sedition Definition: conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.
none said…
The Harkles dissolve Sussex Royal charity and plan to focus on Travalyst.

The company - which has been set up independently - hopes to help the hard-hit tourism industry survive the coronavirus crisis.

LOL

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8487807/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-officially-SHUT-Sussex-Royal-charity.html
Teasmade said…
Just an update, if anyone cares anymore: I made it about 75% of the way through Royals at War and then I just COULD. NOT. The sycophancy . . the glorification . . the obvious PR . . the lies.

Definitely save your money. If you can get it from the library, all you'll lose is your time. Again, the genealogical info about the various families was mostly new to me, and interesting -- perhaps this part had been subcontracted to another writer? So there was a detour mid-book for that and the painstaking retelling of the W&K romance. When it went back to H, I started skimming. When M came into the picture, that was it for me.

Thus endeth my book report.
Grisham said…
I take back what I said about Harry and Phillip. I had a weird day the other day. I was thinking of Harry supposedly biking alone to Malibu and how Phillip also had an independent streak with his flying and also putting his foot in his mouth, etc.

But I want to drop it. I can’t defend it, so I’ll chalk it up to an oopsie.

Midge said…
This from Newsweek: According to Newsweek, an insider said "all assets from Sussex Royal will transfer over" to Travalyst.

Can someone enlighten me? I know Sussex Royal was a charity but isn't Travalyst more a business concern? Wasn't a separate company formed under it? Sussex Royal The Foundation Of The Duke And Duchess Of Sussex are the principal shareholders of MWX Trading Ltd and are listed as people with significant control and are the only shareholders.
KCM1212 said…
@Fairy Crocodile said:

Regarding Harry's lawsuit against the Sun

Why is he the Claimant? He alleges the Sun hired an "illegal" American private investigator to gather information on Megsy, including her social security and phone numbers in 2016.

In 2016 Megsy was not legally associated with Harry in any way. She should be the claimant. Where is the provable damages to Harry?

Hiring a private investigator is not illegal, provided they use legitimate means to obtain the information.

Social security number can be obtained legally, from the court records for instance, although some states shield them. Same goes to the phone numbers. It is an illegal use of this information that constitutes the crime. Did the Sun commit a fraud using Megsy's security number and phone?

What is this trash? Perhaps our American Nuttiers can say something about this? At fiest glance this is another waste of court time and a frivolous lawsuit.

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Excellent points, Fairy!

I sure hope the Sun is asking them as well.

KCM1212 said…
@Teasmade

Thanks for the heads up, Teasmade!
unknown said…
Thanks xxxxx and Fairy, great points here.

Travlyst is dead in the water.
No one is going to give them money to reduce flying when no one is flying anywhere anyway. Harry should publicly thank coronavirus for doing Travlyst' job. eyeroll.

Further, all of this BS lawsuit stuff is only proving how dim both of these people are. She clearly doesn't understand what REAL power is and how it works in society. She didn't respect the hierarchy of the Palace. Trying to separate 'family' from 'institution' is because they still want access to the Trust Funds/Duchy. So they cannot afford to call out the RF members publicly. Just more manipulation. Can she not understand that the whole world sees through her Charade.

It's not anyone else's responsibility or problem that she is stupid. The RF must be so embarrassed by her lawsuits. Aristocrats must be rolling their eyes.

In case Meghan is reading this: The REASON you don't respond to the media (true or not, who cares) is because you were ROYAL. You were meant to be 'above it all'. The fact you didn't understand that very simple concept proves how common you really are. You don't bicker publicly with people lower than yourself. You are meant to do good works, and inspire. Your reputation is recovered by being Royal, and consistently doing the work for the Crown.

As usual, though, she's trying to manipulate things so the RF pays them more.

If they were happily raking it in, do you all think we would even see legal filings like this?



unknown said…
Their cases wouldn't even see the light of day in the US.

They could attempt to sue the publications for libel, but then all they would achieve is everything that had been written being confirmed factually true. Which is her big grievance? That should couldn't release her own 'version' to lie about her past?

She has a very strange way of thinking about leveling the playing field...because she doesn't make sense.

Funny that Samantha upset her so much. She should have paid her off like her Ex'. This is exactly why I say Meghan is not very smart.

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SirStinxAlot said…
I am a bit late to the party...but what does the York girls titles and working in ordinary jobs have to do with Meghan's case for breach of copyright?? This looks like her attorney is trying to slip in more irrelevant non-evidence to gain sympathy. The York girls were born royals and have never been full time working royals. Apples and oranges. Imo
KC said…
I am quoting, I think, KCM212 here:Harry and Meghan actually felt that the BRF should have called the Royal Rota and other newspapers together to tell them to stop printing mean stuff about them (meaning Meghan). It was immaterial that the "stuff" was true, or that they simply could change their own behaviors to make it stop....

Harry apparently felt that this was "protection" she should have been entitled to as a member of the RF, and he (meaning the family) should provide it to her....

Forgetting of course that no one, certainly not another royal bride, got that kind of protection.

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Except I think Diana did get something like that. Back when James Whitaker covered the royals, about the time of Charles and Diana's engagement or the marriage, the queen and some of her aides had a meeting with a bunch of editors to persuade them to lay off a bit as Diana was young and getting SO MUCH attention.

Not the same of course:
MM was at this time past 35 and a seasoned publicity seeker for her career. But if she is claiming pregnancy then she might say at this vulnerable time the increased hormones might have made her more emotional. I think i read on this blog in 2019 suggestions that when Kate was in tears at Charlotte's dress fitting she was still somewhat hormonal from carrying Louis. (As well as anything Meghan .ight have said/done).

Whereas Diana was just...living her new life. We know now there was some misery but she respected tradition before she changed it.

KC said…
Meghan *might have done.
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KCM1212 said…
@KC

Interesting,KC. Perhaps that is why they felt so absolutely justified in demanding "the same" for Meghan.

But I'm guessing the RF didn't ask the press to lie for Diana. They just wanted less press presence. Aside from her youth, Diana was in actual physical danger from the crowds of paps chasing her down the street.

Meghan would have fought less press tooth and nail. She just wanted to tell them what to say.

Nutty Flavor said…
Thanks for your insights, @Fairy Crocodile, but let’s stay on topic.
Sorry, Nutty. Apologies, will stay on the topic.
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TheTide said…
Maybe this is why they are so desperate. Sussex Royal was going to brand liquor, towels, soda. #HowTacky #NotClassy

www.blindgossip.com

[Blind Gossip] In the most refined, educated, cultured, polished, and modern way, this celebrity couple reacted to a proposed change to their branding.

Their reaction was basically, “What the f*ck? What the actual f*ck?!”

So if you read something about how they have accepted the change, roll your eyes.

They have definitively NOT accepted this change. They are furious beyond belief!!! This will cost them millions of dollars. They have sunk a lot of money into two-word branding, websites, trademarks, logos, etc. They are asking their attorneys if they have legal standing to fight.

Their rationale for fighting?

The word [redacted] is already being used on towels, on liquor, and on soda brands! They think they should be able to use the word the way they want to.

Maybe. However, fighting the husband’s family on this could potentially make a bad situation even worse!

It is possible that if they even signal that they are going to fight for that one word, the family could withdraw permission for the second word as well.

Meaning… the couple could have certain titles taken away from them and have both words of the trademark challenged.

Since the titles are pretty much all they have left, they might want to quit while they are behind. Better to settle for half than none?

Perhaps their time would be better spent coming up with a new brand.

In between all that yoga, of course.

Did the family do the right thing? What should the couple do?

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