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Meghan, Harry, and Community Property in California

This is what happens when I take too long to write a post. My original idea - that Meghan and Harry should consider purchasing one of the "cheap old houses" popular on Instagram and fix it up as part of a reality series - seems to have been overtaken by events.

Page Six is reporting today that Meghan and Harry already have a house in Santa Barbara, near Oprah and Ellen's pads, and in fact have been living there for at least six weeks. (This is not entirely unexpected; Harry's most recent hostage video had a different background than usual.)

"This is the first home either of them has ever owned," writes the couple's PR agent via Page 6. "It has been a very special time for them as a couple and as a family - to have complete privacy for six weeks since they moved in."

They could probably still be having complete privacy if the couple's PR team wasn't leveraging their real estate news in order to promote the new book "Finding Freedom" - which the Sussexes, of course, insist they had nothing to do with. 

Bad timing

Meg must be a little peeved that the timing of the house announcement conflicted with bigger news about another biracial Californian; it was announced late yesterday that Kamala Harris would be the Democratic nominee for US Vice President.

You can almost hear Meg's screams in her publicity team's hastily-concocted story headlined Meghan Markle reveals why she's voting in the 2020 election. (Spoiler: it's because she wants her "voice to be heard.") 

Roughly 130 million Americans voted in the last election, so I look forward to Page Six's in-depth accounts of why the other 129,999,999 will be voting this time. 

Paired with the fact that Megan Thee Stallion is rapidly becoming America's most famous Megan (with Meghan McCain probably in second place) and the news cycle just isn't being kind to the Duchess of Sussex.

Community property

Anyway, what interests me most about the Page Six story is the quote that "this is the first home either of them have owned." 

Could Harry - or Charles, who probably provided the downpayment if not the full purchase price - really have been dumb enough to put the house partly in Meghan's name? 

First of all, there would seem to be obvious tax benefits as well as privacy benefits to putting the house in the name of a corporation, and Meg seems to have registered several over the years through her business manager. By this time, there must be a corporation in which Meg and Harry are both directors - Archewell? 

Secondly, any good financial manager would plan carefully when a married couple purchases a significant asset - particularly a couple with two different citizenships and two different tax liabilities. Even moreso when the family strongly suspects the marriage might not last. 

Could Meg possibly have convinced Harry to make her an equal partner in a home that was financed by his family or his inheritance?

I'm no lawyer, but California is famous for its 50-50 community property settlements

While these aren't fully in force unless the marriage has lasted 10 years, it seems clear that Meg would be able to walk away with at least half of any house that had her name on it.

What do you think?

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CatEyes said…
@JHanoi

Also PP mother became very religious and had visions and started to live her life as a nun (I believe an Orthodox nun). She supposedly had a kind and generous heart but was afflicted with Schizophrenia from what I read. PP and TQ allowed her to live in the Palace as she got older.
Shaggy said…
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JHanoi said…
cat- yes, ive read the same thing. she became a nun or lived like a nun and helped the poor in greece when she herself was penniless.




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emeraldcity said…
Oh! my 800 plus comments in such a short time.

Appologies if someone has already posted this but some interesting analysis on Travalyst

"In the section on “powers” (of the board/company), it asserts that one of these powers is to: “Purchase, take on lease, exchange, hire, or otherwise acquire any real property, whether situate in the United Kingdom or abroad, and any personal property, and any rights or privileges necessary or convenient for the purposes of the company and to construct, alter and maintain any buildings required for the purposes of the company.”

This means that if Meghan and Harry could justify why they need a property anywhere in the world to further the objectives of their sustainable travel initiative, they would be able to use company coffers to do that.

Not only that, but Harry is a “person of significant control” in the company, meaning he holds at least 75 percent of the shares.

As a person of significant control, he has the power to appoint and remove the majority of the board of directors."


https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1322985/meghan-markle-prince-harry-new-house-santa-barbara-duchess-sussex-royal-family-spt


Now isn't that interesting.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Peony PRincess Alice saved some Jews from tbe Holocaust. I don't remember tbe details but she was no Nazi
SwampWoman said…
"She has got to be the most pushy individual that it has ever been my displeasure to see in the whole of my life..." (Now imagine me laughing like SpongeBob Squarepants.) ..."because her pushiness is beyond and she covers it with a thin veneer of principle. Well as I used to say to your grandmother, who as you know was a piece of work as is dear Meghan, I used to point out to Mummy (?) that, you know, it doesn't matter when you cover dirty deeds with noble motives, they still remain dirty deeds and, Meghan is, regrettably like your grandmother, the sort of person who covers her dirty deeds with noble motives. She is, like your grandmother, RUTHLESSLY self-centered, TOTALLY egotistical, SUCKING up all the oxygen in every room so that only she is the center of attention, then trying to cover it up that she cares so much for everybody, that she's doing it for their good. No, she's not."
Shaggy said…
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SwampWoman said…
Oh, the above was Lady C from Chatting with Lady C: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2kcqaoFm3U
@emerald city,

That's frighteningly interesting! And extremely devious.

@Wullie Bucket,

I don't think they took the pandemic into account, either, but this would give them time to get everything ready to open.
Shaggy said…
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just sayin' said…
The new house looks like a hotel. Perhaps madame is going to open a SoHo-like business? Nothing she does is original.
Grisham said…
Whose grandmother???
SwampWoman said…
Oh, just damn! I didn't realize that the interviewer was one of Lady C's adopted sons. Lady C said that she is considering speaking about being raised by a narcissist and that she can see parallels between Meghan and his grandmother (Lady C's mother), except with none of her virtues such as being well bred, knew how to conduct herself socially and took the trouble to actually conceal her narcissistic behavior.

She said that "buying property in California, for Harry and Meghan is a real game changer in terms of tax, in terms of their status, and also it actually gives the message that they intend to stay abroad, and I'm not sure that's a bad thing, you know. I think that they have made themselves so unpopular in this country that I think that it is just as well that they are out of the country because I really don't see that it behooves the British people and the British monarchy to have two lecturers, who are both ignorant of the realities of life, telling everyone what they should be doing. No."
SwampWoman said…
Wullie'sBucket said...
@JocelynsBellinis

What's ironic is that the travel/vacation business may never be the same again. I could imagine them assuming everything will go back to normal at some point...most people would not spend so much money on a business that may not be as lucrative or even viable based on current world issues.
Sometimes I think MM's huge ego allows her to assume everything will always go her way no matter what.


Lady C mentioned the optics of them buying the house on the verge of probably the worst recession/depression in 300 years.

If you share the believe that *very* bad times are coming, well, investing in a future Bed and Breakfast might not be such a bad idea because people will probably still have to travel for business. (I'm just not sure that there will be business left in California to travel to.)
SwampWoman said…
tatty said...
Whose grandmother???



The interviewer's (Misha Ziadie) grandmother, Lady C's mother.
Hikari said…
Nyota,

I can assure you that by this point any anger I feel toward the Harkles is the stone-cold variety. The circles H and M travel in are far above my pay grade—I have no knowledge of real estate, Russian oligarchs, international law as regards money laundering/extortion/tax fraud/whether or not yachting counts as prostitution, etc. I am completely calm, having expanded my outrage sometime ago on these two. I feel incredibly sorry for the Queen, who after a Lifetime of exemplary personal conduct hast to deal with this mess at the twilight of her reign. I feel equally sorry for Charles, who gets treated like a goat most of the time, and that is not in the GOAT sense. It’s a shame he will never meet Thomas Markle, because I think the two septuagenarians have a lot in common despite the obvious class differences that separate them. Both have had hearts broken, Been exploited and vilified, and been made an international laughing stock of by an ungrateful child. No matter what else good they have done in their lives, They are now both tainted forever for having begotten such children. Both have been imperfect fathers in different ways, but they are human beings, and I think both tried their best in their respective circumstances to be as good of parents as they were able. In both cases, the children are psychologically damaged, but us that all down to their lacks in parenting? I think not, since each man has older children with even greater challenges who do not present half the trouble of their youngests. Harry and Meg are so remarkably similar in their toxic dysfunction, and each was bad enough on their own. It was an ill wind that brought Markle into Harry’s orbit. A perfect crap storm is what they have created together, And neither seems to care that they have destroyed lives all around them in pursuit of whatever it is they’re seeking.

My theories are for entertainment purposes only. I can only react to what I see, And try to come up with scenarios that would explain why these two particular people Who seem devoid of normal reasoning and are only extraordinary for how clueless they are have gotten to this point. Even for the annals of colorful royal history, these two are unique. What unseen forces are helping them to arrange their house of cards, and when exactly is it going to come tumbling down? I feel for the British people, and were I one of them, *then* I would be really mad.
Hikari said…
JocelynsBellinis,

Your theory Re. The “Soho Santa Barbara” is eminently plausible. Meg would love that. Bit off the beaten track, but that’s the draw. Plenty of rooms and the place already looks like a hotel.

Maybe this is why Markus was with them for weeks. He was helping with the launch of a new location!

No place for a baby if you are right, but somehow I have a feeling that Arch is not a factor.

The Harkles won’t be leaving the tabloids anytime soon. This is poised to get really good, if we thought it was juicy before.
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Jdubya said…
emeraldcity said...
Oh! my 800 plus comments in such a short time.

Appologies if someone has already posted this but some interesting analysis on Travalyst

"In the section on “powers” (of the board/company), it asserts that one of these powers is to: “Purchase, take on lease, exchange, hire, or otherwise acquire any real property, whether situate in the United Kingdom or abroad, and any personal property, and any rights or privileges necessary or convenient for the purposes of the company and to construct, alter and maintain any buildings required for the purposes of the company.”

This means that if Meghan and Harry could justify why they need a property anywhere in the world to further the objectives of their sustainable travel initiative, they would be able to use company coffers to do that.

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Now THIS IS INTERESTING. I wonder if they are planning to use the house in relation to Travelyst? Which could be tricky if the house zoning is not for business purposes.
xxxxx said…
MusicDSPGuy said...
I also had a quick look at the current property listings for Montecito area and what is interesting is that there are some really spectacular yet easy to run estates in the $5M to $7M range on the market. Some are really impressive. So spending $15M in the current market for what they got was pure ostentation. Nothing else. They could have got a really nice impressive place for the down-payment with annual running cost of maybe 20% of what they will be paying for the carbuncle they actually bought.

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Big assumption, but assuming Megs would have gone with one of the smaller properties (5-7 million dollar range)...If only she had known about them. Megs/Hapless should have bought one of them. Obviously, if you have any sanity and any decent judgement.

My guess is they were not made fully aware of the smaller properties (by realtors) as far as their much lower annual expenses go. Plus the Dubious Duo needed to acquire a mansion via Mr. Oligarch for him to take care of the financing. iow- Mr Oligarch was not offering the more modest Montecito properties you mention. But he was selling his 15 million dollar white elephant that no one has inhabited for 10+ years. And fully furnished! And at a steep discount!

Same as when you buy a new automobile that costs you $2000 more, has options you do not need, is not the color you really want. All because car dealer A can give you better financing and better trade in price than car dealer B
Natalier said…
Usually during a downturn like now, price of property is low or has gone down since the recent good times. Hence, people looking to invest would snatch up properties at cut-prices now. Of course, that is provided you can ride through the downturn with sufficient funds to see you through that period without defaulting.

As for these two numpties, I think Meghan only wanted a huge, huge property in an exclusive area to show that she has arrived, without thoughts of affordability in the long term. As for the dumb one, he thinks his father has a bottomless cash account that he can always rely on.
@Wullie's Bucket,

They'd have to make it (Soho Santa Barbara) extremely exclusive and extremely expensive, catering to the jet set party crowd, those who will still have money during a long and very serious depression. Jets and flight arrangements and booking arrangements by Travelyst, of course (sustainable travel has always been just a cover). It would also be a place for their next wealthy targets to stay while The Harkles see what they can get out of them financially or for PR/merching purposes, a place to make deals.

Catered meals or celeb chef on site, wine tasting, visiting musicians and DJs for the club, an Art Basel-type week, yachting, the works. Anything the guest desires, and it will be done. Megs would love this.

Oh, and the tax write offs would be tremendous.
SwampWoman said…
Wullie'sBucket:

Personally, I don't think the Harkles could make a brothel profitable pandemic or not, so there's that. I was giving them the benefit of the doubt. But here's the caveat, and it is a great big giant one:

I haven't checked into zoning restrictions but I doubt highly that a hotel of *any* kind is going to be permitted to operate in an exclusive residential neighborhood. If there has been a variance filed, the neighbors should have been notified, and I haven't seen any news reports of people gathering with pitchforks and torches.

I was just trying to think of things that the Harkles could do to make the payments on that big house.

(I forget that there are restrictions in other places due to the pandemic because all the hotels and restaurants are open here.)

SwampWoman said…
Blogger JocelynsBellinis said...
@Wullie's Bucket,

They'd have to make it (Soho Santa Barbara) extremely exclusive and extremely expensive, catering to the jet set party crowd, those who will still have money during a long and very serious depression. Jets and flight arrangements and booking arrangements by Travelyst, of course (sustainable travel has always been just a cover). It would also be a place for their next wealthy targets to stay while The Harkles see what they can get out of them financially or for PR/merching purposes, a place to make deals.

Catered meals or celeb chef on site, wine tasting, visiting musicians and DJs for the club, an Art Basel-type week, yachting, the works. Anything the guest desires, and it will be done. Megs would love this.


It would actually be something with which she is familiar and probably good at. Harry could schmooze the guests. She could hurl abuse and cheap vases at the maids. But, zoning.
I don’t have the patience to dig deep here, but a superficial perusal of the Santa Barbara zoning ordinances appears to rule out the possibility of the Harkles using their new residential monstrosity as a Soho House: https://www.countyofsb.org/plndev/maps/zoning.sbc
Aquagirl said…
@Swamp Woman: Since the Harkles lie about everything, I can see them lying about this as well. It wouldn’t be outwardly run as a business. No signage, advertising, etc. It would be so exclusive that only certain people would know about it. And every desire would be fulfilled. If they got complaints, they would say that the people staying there were their ‘friends and/or business associates’. MM clearly doesn’t believe that the rules apply to her. Who would’ve thought that they’d be blatant enough to hold parties with fireworks at 2-bedroom Nott Cott? But it seems as if they did.
Aquagirl said…
If the stories about Markus being in LA are true, I’m wondering if he could be a partner?
Aquagirl said…
@xxxxx: I’m sure that they were aware of less expensive properties, which were probably nicer and more tasteful, but they needed the sleazy Russian in order for the deal to go through. Ick.
Aquagirl said…
@Natalier: But you haven’t arrived if you’ve bought a white elephant with dubious connections which nobody else wanted.
Mango said…
I’m sure we will be seeing drone photos of Harry on the riding mower. Upkeep on the mansion will be exorbitant and Megs needs every penny for lawyers and PR.

Billionaire Mark Cuban is a neighbor. Mrs. Cuban had better keep on eagle eye on him. MM will no doubt be popping by unannounced with all sorts of flimsy reasons and excuses. She might even flash him like she flashed Alexis Ohanian, the husband of her “good friend” Serena Williams. Megsy has proven herself capable of anything.
Aquagirl said…
I really do wonder about the financing of this house and whether Charles knew what was happening or if it was presented as a fait accompli? The optics are horrible, especially with HM having just bailed out Andrew. What will it take for someone in that family to put on the brakes?

It does make me wonder if MM has backers. It seems as if they are afraid of her.
Aquagirl said…
@Mango: Flimsy reasons, flimsy excuses, and flimsy outfits. She’s such a pig!
SwampWoman said…
Thanks for the research, Golden Retriever. My eyes just didn't want to handle the legalese at 1:30 a.m. G'night, all! It has been an entertaining evening, thanks!
lizzie said…
@Aquagirl wrote:

"I’m sure that they were aware of less expensive properties, which were probably nicer and more tasteful, but they needed the sleazy Russian in order for the deal to go through. Ick."

Maybe. I agree they very likely knew what was available. But IMO it's also quite likely more tasteful properties didn't appeal to them. I mean, with what we've seen so far, why would they? M seems to have no taste and even if Harry once did, in his current state of "second son resentment" he needed something ostentatious to outdo the Queen's wedding gift to William of Anmer Hall.
Magatha Mistie said…

Mission Complicit
And those that dwell in it
Are heading for a pile of trouble
It’s all an illusion of deceit and collusion
They’ll end up no rouble but rubble


@Aquagirl,

I think they could get around the zoning, too, with some creative wording and with no mention of payment for food or lodging or membership. There are many private mansions that have a revolving door of guests coming and going, staying for weeks, or just coming to party for a few days. They have the right to have as many people visiting them as they want. Private parties for 500 or more are not unusual in those circles.

The neighbors would hate them, though.



Shaggy said…
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@Aquagirl,

I think they could get around the zoning, too, with some creative wording and with no mention of payment for food or lodging or membership. There are many private mansions that have a revolving door of guests coming and going, staying for weeks, or just coming to party for a few days. They have the right to have as many people visiting them as they want. Private parties for 500 or more are not unusual in those circles.

The neighbors would hate them, though.



Nutty Flavor said…
Good morning!

Interesting thought, @emeraldcity, that the Montecito home might have been purchased at least in part by Travalyst, which is supposed to be a charity.

I wonder how much money Travalyst has managed to collect. Visa, TripAdvisor, Skyscanner, and Booking.com were all named as sponsors; would they have perhaps each put in a million or so?

We've also talked about the Disney donation, perhaps that went into the Travalyst coffers as well.


Well, the local Montecito alternative newspaper has subtly and politely warned The Harkles that they expect them to not disrupt the neighborhood:

"As a longtime Montecito resident myself, I’m happy to welcome my new neighbors and, I expect, our newest Noozhawk readers. I know you value your privacy so I would just ask you to remember that the rest of us value ours, as well."

Aquagirl said…
@Wullie’sBucket: Those are the official guidelines but people are still having parties with hundreds of people.
Aquagirl said…
@Jocelyn: Nice shade from Noozhawk!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Pink Peony said...
@Lt,
Some of us Americans realize what a catastrophe that would have been.
__________________
agree! I'm thankful George became King and not the weak minded David. I view King George as he was very honorable man. His wife, not so honorable but she got the job done. IMO

In my discussions with millennials and younger ones, who are barely aware that WWII even happened, much less the people involved like "Ike" Eisenhower (who was President, and they didn't know!), the Andrews Sisters, Churchill, "Bomber" Harris, etc. -- and King George VI and the Queen Mother -- I've found they're very interested and even hungry for more stories and anecdotes about those times. The irony is I was born well after that time, and can only tell what I've read and discovered through chat with veterans, including my own Dad.

ONE tidbit, O/T, promise! :) ...

My Dad, an Army officer who served in WWII, Korea and Vietnam, was required, as all U.S. officers are, to attend Command and Staff College in Leavenworth, Kansas (I was born there during that time, and some say I'll wind up there back again due to the Federal Prison of fame and yore located there as well, LOL) --

One Squadron Leader Rupert P., Royal Air Force, was there on an exchange visit. He and my Dad met, and hit it off. They never stopped laughing together and enjoying each other's company, and became fast friends for life. (Rupert is 96. My Dad has passed.)

Rupert flew a Fairey Battle bomber in WWII, and he was dispatched over France in May 1940. It was a miserable plane, with substandard gunnery and awkward to maneuver. The German planes made mincemeat out of the British craft in those days. Rupert was shot down, and spent the rest of the war in Stalag Luft III. Yes, where the Great Escape happened. Rupert was not willing to risk his life as an escapee, but he made lanterns out of empty tins and lard for the tunnellers. His one-day wife, Rose, was a volunteer with the Red Cross who wrote to Rupert throughout the war, and afterward, he married her. They are happily together still.

ANYway ... Rupert, in typical British fashion, laughed at and brushed off the British courage during the war. My Dad, being perceptive, noticed that when he visited Rupert and Rosie in their South London flat after the war, that a portrait of King George VI had pride of place in the sitting room. Dad said that Rupert said, "He was a good 'un."

This is all to say that Britain might regret not having Royals like King George VI, who stepped up when he would rather have died. Whatever her faults, the Queen Mother knew that the strain killed him. The pain and anger settled into her, and she got her revenge. Whatever else comes out about her, I won't begrudge her that.

I think the future King William will be all that George VI was and more.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Jocelyn

Ooooh, very succinct!
So Barney and Betty Ruble and little Ham-Sham have been warned!
I just watched the LCC video referred to earlier. Very entertaining. I love her description of “Ahmid Scabies” as Meghan’s “Minister of Propoganda.”

The part where she speculates that “the palace” is letting things play out with Harry and Meghan because “every royal family to survive have to link itself to the people” galled me, though. She says the RF hope that “Meghan and Harry will be able to capture the left wing while William and Catherine capture the middle ground.”

Um, the problem is that Meghan and Harry are allying themselves with the left wing of the Democratic Party of the United States of America, not the Labour Party of Great Britain. Lady C seems to be saying that the RF think it’s not a bad thing for the grifters to be inserting themselves in a foreign country’s politics. Let them go back to London and Zoom away there, then.
@Nutty,

Who knows if those businesses have put any money into Travalyst. They could have just lent their names to the operation. None of them are really interested in eco-tourism. they're interested in making money.

The Russian billionaire they bought the house from was involved in a fraudulent scheme in Estonia. I recall that you're in a reporter in Estonia. Have you heard anything about that or anything about Sergey Grishin?

From the DM:

"The larger alleged robbery involved financial manipulations via Estonia at the time when the Soviet Union was collapsing into chaos, he said."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8624021/The-Scarface-oligarch-sold-Meghan-Harry-cut-price-mansion.html

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
JocelynsBellinis said...
@Nutty

Who knows if those businesses have put any money into Travalyst. They could have just lent their names to the operation. None of them are really interested in eco-tourism. they're interested in making money.


Is Travalyst even a "non-profit" ??? I don't think so. I click on Harry Markle blog to stay abreast of latest shell games.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
JocelynsBellinis said...
@Nutty,

Who knows if those businesses have put any money into Travalyst. They could have just lent their names to the operation. None of them are really interested in eco-tourism. they're interested in making money.
________________________________

YEP, and yes.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
ocelynsBellinis said...
@Nutty,

Who knows if those businesses have put any money into Travalyst. They could have just lent their names to the operation. None of them are really interested in eco-tourism. they're interested in making money.

The Russian billionaire they bought the house from was involved in a fraudulent scheme in Estonia. I recall that you're in a reporter in Estonia. Have you heard anything about that or anything about Sergey Grishin?

_________________________________________________

"Wow, this lovely Russian guy, so friendly! has helped us get our mansion!*

From the DM:

"The larger alleged robbery involved financial manipulations via Estonia at the time when the Soviet Union was collapsing into chaos, he said."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8624021/The-Scarface-oligarch-sold-Meghan-Harry-cut-price-mansion.html
@Lt. Uhura,

I can't keep up with what they're doing with Travalyst, either. One day, it's a non-profit, and the next, it's a business. Who knows what they're calling it today?
Calling Nutty, calling Nutty. Are you there?
Rut said…
One way for Meghan Markle to get big PR and to be the center of attention next year would be if she kept a pregnancy secret and just one day had a child. She doesn't have anywhere to go to show her bump anyway so why not use the corona quarantine for a thing that would "break the internet" I don't think news of her secret pregnancy or new baby would break the internet, because no one cares about their children, but I can imagine Meghan Markle would think so. I also think she would like to have the child before she turns 40. Well....thats my guess. I was wrong when I predicted her to write about postnatal depression in Finding Freedom so I can of course be wrong about this guess as well :)
The cost of that house in £s Sterling doesn't sound quite as horrific as in dollars and an interesting comparison has occurred to me:

Do those of you who are not in the UK know the work of Raymond Briggs? The Snowman, When the Wind Blows, Fungus the Bogeyman and so on? Well, he's also written `Ethel and Ernest - a true story', about his parents.

They lived in an area of SW London known as `The Grid' - so unusual is that kind of street plan here - it's where my mother was brought up, from mid-Edwardian times, through WW1 to to the 1930s. If you search images for `Ethel and Ernest' you find charming drawings of the houses. Terraced, front bays topped with gables and, the real giveaway, porch roofs edged with fretwork. In particular, there's a drawing of the start of, presumably, the VE Day street party, with a dozen or so such houses in the background. They're dead-ringers for where Mum lived.

At today's prices, these modest dwellings (4 bedrooms, originally small front parlour, small dining room, kitchen, scullery- with a `copper' for boiling the washing- 1 bathroom, small back garden, nowhere for a car) go for £1.25+ million each. The total cost of the houses in the street-party scene comes roughly to the same as the H$Ms little pad.

Of course, they've been extended, it's no longer gaslight downstairs and candles upstairs and very different kinds people there now from those who moved in c.1908.

H$M probably thought their wee hoose was a snip.

W.ref. to the other sort of laundering (no washboiler involved) I thought simply of M passing the dosh to Doris - little did I know.
@rut,

I don't think another pregnancy would 'break the internet,' either, but there sure would be a groan heard around the world from people who know that the last thing The Harkles should have is another baby.
Shaggy said…
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@WBBM,

Fireworks are probably very limited due to wildfire danger, but Oprah sure got her fireworks for her big party.
If Nutties recall, didn't HM say that their `landlord' at the Canadian house that he was `not a friend of Britain'?
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
UGH.

Take a deep breath, Nutties.

We are in the midst of a maelstrom, and in the end we must connect the dots.

We will get there. Just relax.
@JocelynsBellinis-

I'd read about the fireworks late at night but 'twasn't me that mentioned them. Also that it was the French Ambassador who complained, also hints of substance consumption (rumour, of course).
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
JocelynsBellinis said...
@Lt. Uhura,

I can't keep up with what they're doing with Travalyst, either. One day, it's a non-profit, and the next, it's a business. Who knows what they're calling it today?
_______________

Yeah, I know. These two are twisted, stupid and in thrall of others.

Travalyst was a non-profit to begin with, but now is a "foundation."

Keep clicking on Harry Markle Blog.
@WBBM,

Sorry, I was responding to Wullie's Bucket, but U mistakenly used your name. Too many Ws and Bs, I guess.

Yes, now I remember it was the French ambassador. Thanks for reminding me. I remember a hint at substance consumption, too.
Shaggy said…
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I guess LA got too “woke” for the Harry and Meghan:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8631063/Hollywood-Apocalypse-rich-famous-fleeing-droves.html
@LT. Uhura,

Yep, Harry Markle does a really great job. She's a very good writer and researcher. I think she's the best Harkle blogger around.
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Ethel and Ernest, wonderful, thanks.
I had a look at the drawings and the film promo,
will try to find the film.
Reminds me of my grandparents, very fond memories.
I attempted claymation with plasticine, lots of fun & fiddling
for around 5 seconds of film!!
@Lt Nyota Uhura-

Thank you for talking about your Dad. That generation didn't say much about their wartime experiences, anyone who boasted was assumed to be fake. I didn't know Mum's brother had been in the D Day landings until after he died - I gather he was `first on the beach' but don't know if that meant from his landing craft or something grander. Photos suggest he was RE, so he could have been a Sapper Pioneer, clearing the way.

My father was in both WWs - Poor Bloody Infantry in WW1 only mentioned guarding PoWs, the devastation of Amiens and marching through Flanders. He was Signaller though, possibly the first out of the trench to restore phone lines after `a bit of a show'. Mum was convinced he didn't leave UK shores/ground as RAF in WW2 - he only spoke about his job in putting up false radio beams to confuse the enemy. A cousin told me that he'd flown with Dad in Blenheims (another miserable bomber) so goodness knows what he really did.

Again, I had a colleague who turned out to be one of those backroom boys in Stalag Luft III - didn't find out until after he died.

Harry rubbishing the older generation shows just what an ignorant twerp he is - a dangerous one as well.
HappyDays said…
Natalier said...

As for these two numpties, I think Meghan only wanted a huge, huge property in an exclusive area to show that she has arrived, without thoughts of affordability in the long term. As for the dumb one, he thinks his father has a bottomless cash account that he can always rely on.

@Natalier: The first sentence in your comment says a lot about Meghan. She gauges her self-esteem and status based heavily on material possessions.

Note: This reply is longer than my usual comments. It is in TWO parts. This is part ONE.

Two of the main problems with determining your self-esteem and value as a person by these measuring sticks, especially for a person with narcissistic personality disorder, is that the value of these items are often fleeting for a variety of reasons. They depreciate greatly because they go out of style as in the case with clothes, home furnishings, architecture, technology, trends, and the general fickleness of consumers.

And unless you are in the financial stratosphere of a Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, or Carlos Slim, there is ALWAYS going to be someone who has a bigger, better, newer one than you have, and in the world view of a narc, more status and power, so these people aren’t merely trying to keep up with the Jonses down the street who just bought a new Chevy.
HappyDays said…
Reply to Natalier continued.
Part Two:
This is the never ending hamster wheel of life that many people, but especially narcissists like Meghan jump on as they toss more and more material goods at the vast, bottomless pit of theIr empty personality that never truly took form. Their lack of a true personality, hoping to find some tidbit of ever elusive self worth causes them to create the facade of a successful person, but it forms the basis for their greed and selfishness and leads narcissists to become people who can never get enough, which is how at least one person’s describes Meghan in Lady Colin Campbell’s recent book Meghan and Harry: The Real Story.

"While her admirers commended her for her tenacity and toughness, one producer told me that he regarded her ‘an odiously pushy, voracious piece of work’. She was ‘greedy’, had ‘far too high an opinion of herself’, and was ‘a player who has a compulsion to always push for more. If you offered her California, she’d demand Arizona as well, and, if you didn’t give it to her, you were victimising her."

But for a narc, there will always be people and situations when the narcissist can’t compete, which fosters tremendous frustration that produces deep jealousy, envy, rage, and bitterness. For Meghan, William and Kate stood in the way of Meghan taking the spotlight and getting the best of everything, even though if you’re in the British Royal Family, second place isn’t exactly shabby. But for Meghan, it wasn’t.

I think she understood Harry would always be second banana (to use a pun),but for a mediocre, aging actress whose career and marriage prospects were dwindling, Harry was a great catch who could be manipulated into leaving the UK. He serves as the perfect vehicle for Meghan to make a triumphant return to Hollywood, to attempt to set up and rule her own royal court and simultaneously chase the Hollywood A-list success that eluded her before conning Harry into marrying her.

After watching them since they basically left the UK for good last fall, and how glum and disheveled Harry appears these days, it seems Meghan doesn’t seem to give a rat’s ass about how the move to California is affecting Harry. It shows Meghan has no true emotional investment in him and no concern for for his personal welfare.

Your spouse should be the one person you can count on to have your back. She doesn’t have his back, because like the rest of the royal family, she’s in the process of stabbing him in the back, albeit very slowly.

Harry is just a vehicle for Meghan getting back to Southern California on a much higher plane of life she could ever hope to achieve on her own. And now she’s in a house and estate that’s so big she might not have to bother seeing him that often — except for photo ops and covid video messages to help Meghan advance her personal agenda.
Princess Andrew Of Greece (ie Alice, mother of Prince Philip, not to be confused with Alice of Athlone, who also lived in BP or Alice, late Dowager Duchess of Gloucester, who didn't!) sheltered a Jewish family in her Athens palace. She is honoured at Yad Vasshem as one of the Righteous Among the Nations. Here is part of the citation:

"Princess Alice came to the aid of the Cohen family, who had left Thessaloniki at the outset of the German invasion. By the time that the Cohen family needed help in Athens, Haim (Haimaki), the head of the family and a former member of parliament, had already passed away (in January 1943). Haim Cohen’s friendship with the royal family dated back to 1913 – when he had the honor of hosting members of the royal family (including King George I) in his mansion in his native Trikala.

His wife, Rachel, however, was not acquainted with the princess or any members of the royal family. At first Rachel had found refuge for her family on the outskirts of Athens, assisted by Anna Chrysaki*, but then, after three weeks, they had to leave for fear of denunciation by the neighbors. Three sons – Elie, Jacques, and Alfred –managed to escape from Greece. They reached Egypt, via Turkey, in December 1943, joining the Greek forces in the Middle East. In the meantime, Rachel Cohen and her daughter Tilde found refuge in the residence of Princess Alice, in an apartment on the third floor. They stayed there from the middle of October 1943, until December 15, 1944. The princess provided two trustworthy liaisons, Dimosthenis Pouris* and Simpoulou, and, with their help, communication with the outside world was made possible. When the fourth son, Michel, had been forced to return to Athens, he, too, was given shelter in the royal residence. The princess paid regular visits to her Jewish wards, staying for cordial conversations with Rachel. Being deeply religious, she expressed interest in the Jewish faith. The Cohens’ real identity was kept secret, and the staff was informed that Rachel was a former governess of the princess’s children, and her life was threatened under Hitler’s rule. There were times when the Germans became suspicious, and Princess Alice was even interviewed by the Gestapo. Using her deafness, she pretended not to understand their questions until they left her alone. After the war, Princess Alice continued to maintain contact with Rachel, often visiting her at her Athens home. Later, contact was maintained through correspondence, since the princess moved to England. She died at Buckingham Palace in 1969."


At https://righteous.yadvashem.org/?searchType=righteous_only&language=en&itemId=4013687&ind=NaN

My emphasis.
Anonymous said…
When insomnia strikes:

Some Nutties seem to believe Meghan May be pregnant. But would she shoot up Botox and fillers (and have other cosmetic procedures)
If she was? It isn’t recommended according to my google search:

Are Botox and Dermal Filler Injections Safe During Pregnancy? - Sistine Facial ...
In general, both Botox/Dysport and dermal filler, such as Restylane or Juvederm, are very safe, however, since clinical studies cannot be ethically performed on this question, most doctors advise against these procedures during pregnancy simply out of precaution.
Maneki Neko said…
@WBBM and Magatha

Thanks for mentioning Ethel and Ernest, I remember watching it a few years ago, it was a very sweet story with a great 'cast' Brenda Blethyn, Jim Broadbent, Pam Ferris, June Brown). Hope you can find the film, Magatha, it's well worth it. There's also a book.
emeraldcity said…
@ Nutty: Re the Travalyst documentation I think it pretty much allows for Harry and Meghan to buy a home with the company money.

The power to

1: Take on a lease or otherwise acquire (buy) real property in the UK or abroad

2: and any personal property (which is the real kicker)

3: and any rights or privileges (i.e. the right to use it as a home as well as for the business)

4: and the right to construct, alter and maintain any buildings required for the purposes of the company. (many running costs and any repairs/upkeep all taken care of by the company.

I think they will have a nominal office in say L.A. or London but part of the home could be deemed as a 'home office' for Harry (Owner and Chairman of the board or whatever title they come up with for him) as such there would be no zoning problems.

No doubt the house will then be used for fundraising events, dinners with prospective donors/clients (' purposes of the company') the garden and pool up keep could also be a legitimate expense as well if they throw enough 'business related' parties/dinners/functions.

Maybe even some staff wages could be charged to the company such as gardners/pool cleaners/cleaning staff coming under the 'upkeep' clause. They seem to have had an interior repaint already (judging from the latest video) which could also be charged to the company ('right to alter and maintain the building')

They could also claim quite a few tax exemptions on a percentage of the home used for business as well.

Also if indeed the purchase is linked to the Travalyst business,as an LLC, a default on the loan means it would be the company left holding the bag, they can't come after H&M personally. The same would apply if the home gets swept away in a mudslide, all bad news for the mortgagee.


All common business practices for the rich and slippery.

Maneki Neko said…
@Rebecca

When insomnia strikes:

Some Nutties seem to believe Meghan May be pregnant. But would she shoot up Botox and fillers (and have other cosmetic procedures)
If she was? It isn’t recommended according to my google search
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It might not be recommended but MM is arrogant enough to believe that wouldn't apply to her. She might well keep schtum when asked before a procedure.

Heaven help us if she is indeed pregnant.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki
Thanks, I’ve found it at my local library, no waiting list so should have it soon.
Going to check Amazon for a copy to send to my Mum.

Aquagirl said…
@EmeraldCity: Nice summary!
Just thinking about the soho type option. There wouldnt have to be money paid for services and accommodation. It would just be gifted to the two dear friends who had them stay for a visit.
Dont understand about state and federal taxes over there but here that would mean it is not a business so no tax deductions at all. But then travalyst is a charity so that might effect this side of it as well.
Limitations on numbers wouldnt be a problem. They want it super super duper exclusive. i.e. really expensive so less people for higher dollars.
Megs knows how SH works and H is selling himself. The Prince.
Isnt this similar to what the King and Wallis did? I thought I read once they were always complaining that the allowance they got to live on from King George? wasnt enough and when the powers to be wouldnt increase it they basically sold themselves off as companions and dinner entertainment.

And now that Ive written all this Im thinking would Meg allow herself to be seen as the help no matter how exclusive and expensive the party plan was?
Magatha Mistie said…

@HappyDays
Megs in a nutmegshell, thanks.

@emeraldcity
May need house in NY, Flushing Meadows??

@Maneki
I hear the cushions are plusher in LA 😉
Rut said…
Rebecca: I don't belive it is dangerous for the baby if the mother is using fillers. but did Meghan have new lipfillers in the latest video? I think it looks like she painted outside her lips with a lipliner.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Craving a Martini
Meg wont be seen as the help.
She will be operating the secret cameras.
Probably how Harry got himself into this mess in the first place?
@Magatha
I didnt even think of anything like that. It is a brilliant idea to makes loads of money easily.

You are so devious. I love it
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
@Lt Nyota Uhura-

Thank you for talking about your Dad. That generation didn't say much about their wartime experiences, anyone who boasted was assumed to be fake. I didn't know Mum's brother had been in the D Day landings until after he died - I gather he was `first on the beach' but don't know if that meant from his landing craft or something grander. Photos suggest he was RE, so he could have been a Sapper Pioneer, clearing the way.

My father was in both WWs - Poor Bloody Infantry in WW1 only mentioned guarding PoWs, the devastation of Amiens and marching through Flanders. He was Signaller though, possibly the first out of the trench to restore phone lines after `a bit of a show'. Mum was convinced he didn't leave UK shores/ground as RAF in WW2 - he only spoke about his job in putting up false radio beams to confuse the enemy. A cousin told me that he'd flown with Dad in Blenheims (another miserable bomber) so goodness knows what he really did.

Again, I had a colleague who turned out to be one of those backroom boys in Stalag Luft III - didn't find out until after he died.
Aquagirl said…
@Magatha: Definitely how Harry into this mess.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Craving@Aqua

They call her Flick’er, Flick’er
Daughter of lighting
She hopes we can’t see
How devious is she

Magatha Mistie said…

@Rut
Putting botox etc should be the least of her worries
as to what she has already put into her body...

NormaD. said…
Part 1
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/meghan-markle-acting-could-net-22528435
Meghan Markle planning movie return that could earn her a whopping £38m
EXCLUSIVE: The Duchess of Sussex is said to be considering to return to her day job now she and Prince Harry have relocated to the US, and it could be a huge money spinner

Meghan Markle has little experience on the big screen to date
Meghan Markle is planning a return to the big screen — which movie bosses claim could earn her more than $50million for her first appearance.

And we can reveal that the Duchess of Sussex bought a Santa Barbara mansion with Prince Harry ­specifically because it is close to Hollywood.

Former Suits star Meghan’s acting career would be the couple’s most lucrative income after taking out a £7.25million mortgage on the home.
Hollywood director Paul Feig, whose films include The Heat, Spy and Ghostbusters, said movie chiefs are now scrambling to work with the ­39-year-old Duchess
Asked if he would sign her up, he replied: “Meghan – bring it on. I would love to have you in a movie. I think she is great. I’m a fan
InterTalent chairman Professor Jonathan Shalit OBE said: “I think her pulling power both in America and on a global scale is phenomenal
“Whatever role she does everyone is going to want to see her. We are talking a $50million [£38million] fee. People are going to be fascinated to see her perform at the very start

If she returns to Suits it would be the biggest TV series in the world.

“You get a salary based on your box office appeal – it doesn’t relate to quality of acting.
NormaD. said…
Paer 2
Prof Shalit believes Meghan would have to carefully choose her co-stars to make a success of
her return He explained: “If Will Smith or Tom Hanks agree to play opposite her that will give her ­integrity and credibility because
Meghan has been given the go-ahead by the ­Intellectual Property Office in London to trademark the name of her and Harry’s planned ­foundation, Archwell, for “television shows” and “motion picture films
she is going to be judged by the company she is put against
Emmy award winning director Joe Russo said Meghan offers “incredible opportunities to filmmakers He added: “She can bring an ­incredible awareness to causes and issues. It’s amazing she’s coming back to work in the business.”
In one interview on Friday, the Duchess said it was “good to be home

Meghan has been given the go-ahead by the ­Intellectual Property Office in London to trademark the name of her and Harry’s planned ­foundation, Archwell, for “television shows” and “motion picture films



Aquagirl said…
@Norma D: Thanks for posting this. Her pulling power? Please! People want to get away from this woman, not see more of her.
HappyDays said…
Meghan might not be pregnant right now, but it’s common sense that she’ll be pregnant again (or a surrogate will be pregnant) by Archie’s second birthday next May. Even though she just had her 39th birthday a week or so ago, dhe needs to get going. As each month passes, the chance of a natural conception decreases as the rate of chromosomal damage due to aging in her eggs skyrockets.

By age 40, about 60% of a woman’s eggs have chromosomal abnormalities, so at 39, 50 % or more of her rapidly dwindling number of remaining eggs already have chromosomal damage, and by 42, it’s a whopping 75%.

At age 20, the risk of having a baby with Down syndrome is 1 in 1480. At age 40, it’s 1 in 85. By age 45 the odds are 1 in 35. Yes, it’s possible to have a child in your late 30s into your 40s, but just getting pregnant is far from a certainty, even if you are a duchess with lots of money and there are hundreds of genetic disorders that a child can have due to damaged eggs or damaged sperm from the father.

Research is also showing sperm that has chromosomal damage either due to age in older fathers or alcohol and paternal drug use by fathers at any age can also be a contributing factor to chromosomal problems and/or miscarriages, even if the mother is healthy and young.

If Harry is bingeing on the availability of drugs to him in SoCal, degraded sperm could compound any fertility problems that Meghan might have.

Yes, women do have healthy babies into their forties, so please don't send me your anecdotal story of your mother giving birth to your healthy sibling at 45. These are just the numbers, folks.
lizzie said…
Oh, come on. Will Smith or Tom Hanks opposite Meghan in a film? Is that article a joke? (Thanks for posting it @Norma D)

Will worked with extras who had more talent than Meghan does when he was still the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air as did Tom on Bosom Buddies. Neither is likely to be impressed with the BRF connection and I can't imagine they are that woke to work with such an awful actress as a favor because she's biracial. Plus, I'd think Tom is moving towards the end of a distinguished acting career. Is that really the way he'd want to go out?
Magatha Mistie said…

Hey Norma D
I’ve not forgot thee
I’m still in my Russian verbose
I’ll get to it quick, as we’re all getting sick
Of Megs and her latest house shows
xxxxx said…
Paul Samuel Feig He is best known for directing films starring frequent collaborator Melissa McCarthy, including Bridesmaids (2011), The Heat (2013), Spy (2015), and Ghostbusters (2016).

iow He directed the GhostBusters that got universally panned and was a box office flop. And he wants Megs in one of his movies.
Aquagirl said…
I truly doubt that MM is capable of getting pregnant, and I doubt that a surrogate will be getting pregnant any time soon. I don’t think even Megsy has the balls to repeat another fake pregnancy fiasco. Plus it might compete with her new movie ;).
Rut said…
HappyDays; Im sure Meghan Markle frooze her eggs and Im sure the doctor picks the sperm who is not swiming around in circles. I am sure Meghan Markle have access to the best healthcare with amniocentesis and possibility to abortion. When she wants a baby there will be no problem for her to have a baby.

I know it is provocative for some people when women have power over their own bodies and lifes and when they are not panicking over ageing.

So they just want to teach these women they SHOULD panick, they want to inform them they are OLD.

They never show up to inform men.
Never men.

The only show this "kind concern" to women.






HappyDays said…
NormaD said...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/meghan-markle-acting-could-net-22528435
Meghan Markle planning movie return that could earn her a whopping £38m
EXCLUSIVE: The Duchess of Sussex is said to be considering to return to her day job now she and Prince Harry have relocated to the US, and it could be a huge money spinner

@NormaD: I don't give much credibility to these articles.

To refresh everyone’s memory, earlier this year, beginning with the eruption of Megxit in January through the Sussexes’ final appearance in the UK in early March, the “experts” were talking in terms of Harry and Meghan earning hundreds of millions of dollars, and possibly creating a billion dollar empire.

Remember those news articles?

Then in early April as the pandemic was in high gear, the media trumpeted headlines such as this one from the DM:

“EXCLUSIVE: Meghan Markle plans to return to acting but will only work with A-list directors like Ava DuVernay in a 'breakout role' because current offers are too 'cheesy and beneath' former Suits actress”

It’s now mid-August, and for her appearance this past week as an interviewer at The 19th Represents Summit, Meghan had to resort to contacting the event organizers herself and ASKING if she could participate, which for someone of Meghan’s elitism, is close to begging in my book.

For Meghan, it seems her options are especially shrinking. As one Disney exec said of Meghan when her stilted narration of the elephant documentary was released: “She needs Hollywood more than Hollywood needs her.”

I think the Harkles will earn SOME decent money, but it won’t be extremely big money, and they will have a short window of opportunity. At this point in time, they will make money primarily as a novelty, because neither has an extraordinary talent. But being a novelty indicates a curiosity of something new, so the time is already running on their freshness date, and they don’t get to pause it due to the pandemic.

To make things worse, antics such as Meghan’s lawsuit against the Mail on Sunday and the pile of negative press revealing their privileged whining and backbiting as they settled scores over imagined slights in the Finding Freedom book indicates the gloves are coming off in the coverage of these two by many media outlets in the UK and the US.

Their overall behavior and the negative media and public reaction to it further damages their public image and brand, and Hollywood pays attention to brand management. Or, in the case of the Harkles, the lack of it.

They also aren’t getting any younger. Harry’s bald patch is growing, seemingly in proportion to the amount of Botox in Meghan’s face, which causes them to be largely irrelevant to the college-age and twenty something demographic groups that are highly coveted by tv and movie studios and every other marketer.

As time passes, their options and opportunities will likely continue to dwindle at an accelerating pace, or as Lady Colin Campbell said in the DM this weekend:
“I think there is a distinct possibility if they don't make their great fortune that they were hoping to make in Hollywood, they're going to have to move on to somewhere else.”
“I don't know what they're going to do. I suspect they don't know what they're going to do.”

Possible future headline:
Meghan directs Archie’s playgroup nativity pageant.
Magatha Mistie said…

@HappyDays

The British media will eventually finish her.
Make no mistake, after MoS trial, win or lose.
She will be done.
@Happy Days

Nativity pageant? Yes, with herself as Mary and H as a sheep.
Fairy Crocodile said…
I nearly burst out laughing after the minute details of the house location and layout appeared in the media. Privacy? Modest life away from publicity?

Harry is more confined now than in his royal life and the media wants to see them fail. So they will be chased and ridiculed.

"Peeing in the woods" was such astonishing invasion of their own privacy everything will be a fair game.

Russian wife beater oligarch just pulled them into another unsightly scandal.
They are literally mud attracting targets now.

I forgot - the doll Darren as Jesus

MA = Joseph

Doris = St Anne

Scoobie Do = Angel Gabriel

No Wise Men.

William = Herod

Prince Charles as the Donkey that carries them all into Egypt.
Magatha Mistie said…

Ah, but Megs is covered in oil,
Olive Oyle?
Slippery little suckers??

NormaD. said…
@Magatha Mistie
Thank you 😉
Miggy said…
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! 😆

TALK OF THE TOWN: This spud you'll like, Meghan: US entrepreneur has applied to trademark line of fruit and veg called... HRH The Duchess of Sussex New Jersey.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8630853/TALK-TOWN-entrepreneur-trademark-HRH-Duchess-Sussex-New-Jersey.html
@ Happy Days: It's becoming more and more obvious just how delusional these two are. MM expected A-list acting roles to come her way - based on what? Just her celebrity? She wasn't able to get any of those roles during her years as an actress, pre-Harry, so why should she get them now? During her marriage to Trevor, she complained endlessly that he wasn't helping her to get the roles she wanted (which is probably why she trashes him in FF - it's payback time! Maybe Trevor realized that she wasn't all that talented?)

The DM has an article this morning saying their living costs, including all their housing expenses (there'a s complete breakdown) will come to 5 million pounds a year but the allowance from PC only comes to 2 million. So where are the other 3 million going to come from? They have a real problem.

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
SwampWoman said...
"She has got to be the most pushy individual that it has ever been my displeasure to see in the whole of my life..." (Now imagine me laughing like SpongeBob Squarepants.) ..."because her pushiness is beyond and she covers it with a thin veneer of principle.
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"Like" SpongeBob Squarepants? IS SpongeBob SquarePants, now with cauliflower lips!
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JocelynsBellinis said...

This is just an idea, and I really haven't fleshed it out, but here goes:

Both Megs and Harry lived the party life before they met. Harry is renowned for his drinking and partying. Megs was the party girl of the SoHo House and probably beyond. From all appearances, they haven't matured much since that time in their lives. They are still party animals at heart. Remember when they moved from the palace, and one of their neighbors at the palace (I can't remember who) said there was constant noise and partying going on at their apartment, and that they were glad that they left? ?

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Yep. I've felt for quite some time now that wherever they go, the Harkles are doing some kind of mind-altering substance. Look at the hostage videos!
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Hikari said ...

My theories are for entertainment purposes only. I can only react to what I see, And try to come up with scenarios that would explain why these two particular people Who seem devoid of normal reasoning and are only extraordinary for how clueless they are have gotten to this point. Even for the annals of colorful royal history, these two are unique. What unseen forces are helping them to arrange their house of cards, and when exactly is it going to come tumbling down? I feel for the British people, and were I one of them, *then* I would be really mad.

Okay, gotcha. And I totally, 100 percent concur with your last sentence.
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xxxxx said...

MusicDSPGuy said...

They could have got a really nice impressive place for the down-payment with annual running cost of maybe 20% of what they will be paying for the carbuncle they actually bought.


Russian oligarch had to have his cut.
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Magatha Mistie said...

Mission Complicit
And those that dwell in it
Are heading for a pile of trouble
It’s all an illusion of deceit and collusion
They’ll end up no rouble but rubble


*bowing down, GRAVELING at Magatha's feet LOL*
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NormaD. said…
@Happy Days
I agree that the Daily Mirror MM article is more PR.
It just never stops. Endless full-on wishful thinking,dreamed-up scenarios drip fed online on a daily (seems like hourly) basis.

'Possible future headline:
Meghan directs Archie’s playgroup nativity pageant'🤣

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
@Lt Nyota Uhura-

Thank you for talking about your Dad. That generation didn't say much about their wartime experiences, anyone who boasted was assumed to be fake. I didn't know Mum's brother had been in the D Day landings until after he died - I gather he was `first on the beach' but don't know if that meant from his landing craft or something grander. Photos suggest he was RE, so he could have been a Sapper Pioneer, clearing the way.

My father was in both WWs - Poor Bloody Infantry in WW1 only mentioned guarding PoWs, the devastation of Amiens and marching through Flanders. He was Signaller though, possibly the first out of the trench to restore phone lines after `a bit of a show'. Mum was convinced he didn't leave UK shores/ground as RAF in WW2 - he only spoke about his job in putting up false radio beams to confuse the enemy. A cousin told me that he'd flown with Dad in Blenheims (another miserable bomber) so goodness knows what he really did.

Again, I had a colleague who turned out to be one of those backroom boys in Stalag Luft III - didn't find out until after he died.

Harry rubbishing the older generation shows just what an ignorant twerp he is - a dangerous one as well.

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G-d bless your dear father (and mine). Harry is the worst kind of ASS. We call it "stolen valor" over here -- people who try and clothe themselves with the same honor as men who truly did serve and give their lives. They are held in utter contempt.
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HappyDays said...

Natalier said...

As for these two numpties, I think Meghan only wanted a huge, huge property in an exclusive area to show that she has arrived, without thoughts of affordability in the long term

Scarlett O'Hara.
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SwampWoman said...

The California people are having to deal with earthquake swarms, fires, and mass egress of businesses, some of which are being packed up along with equipment and trucked to their new state (often Texas and Florida) and rebuilt.
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The problem is they are bringing their POLITICS, the very thing that drove them out, to their new homes!!! UGH!

I do not foresee a lot of sympathetic eyes being cast toward people whining about racism while living in a multi-million mansion (paid for by the alleged racists).

They WON'T paint it as such in the beginning. Their specialty is the art of obfuscation.
JHanoi said…
Harkles and science or mother nature -

while women -(XX and ,maybe XXX ) can and do have healthy babies into their 40’s but with each day, month, probablity is increased chromosomal issues and the pregnancies are considered high risk.
yes, people can donate eggs and sperm, and hope their reproductive organs continue to function as they did in their teens, 20’s early 30’s, but even with all the improvements in science, things happen and as you age the chances of problems increase.
it’s part of the ‘cycle of life’ and all the wokeness in the world isn’t going to change that fact today.
maybe tomorrow or in years to come, but not today.
luxem said…
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/why-prince-harry-didnt-ask-royals-to-pay-for-montecito-house/

I don't think anyone has posted this story yet. It goes along with what I have been wondering - did the Harkles blindside the BRF with this purchase and the BRF has kept mum trying to figure out exactly what mess Harry has gotten himself into and how to protect his ass(ets) and theirs!

It is hilarious that MeMe thinks a house that sat on the market for 10 years, is in a mudslide path, and was bought at a cut-rate price will somehow earn her a hefty profit if they decide to sell.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
luxem said...
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/why-prince-harry-didnt-ask-royals-to-pay-for-montecito-house/

I don't think anyone has posted this story yet. It goes along with what I have been wondering - did the Harkles blindside the BRF with this purchase and the BRF has kept mum trying to figure out exactly what mess Harry has gotten himself into and how to protect his ass(ets) and theirs!

It is hilarious that MeMe thinks a house that sat on the market for 10 years, is in a mudslide path, and was bought at a cut-rate price will somehow earn her a hefty profit if they decide to sell.

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Russian oligargh needs his cut.
brown-eyed said…
@ JocelynsBellinis

I loved your vacation rental house! (Actually, it is lovely, especially the views.) But here is my favorite amenity:

“. . . This house has been upgraded to a very high standard with Italian plaster and lime-wash on every wall inside and out, creating a wonderful ambiance of color and natural beauty.

Thanks for making me laugh.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
From Jephson's article
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8631219/PATRICK-JEPHSON-Harry-Meghan-unwittingly-delivered-wake-call-Royals-need.html


Think of Prince Andrew, now twisting on rope paid out over years by a Palace elite that failed to take early preventive action. Think of Princess Diana, cast adrift by her husband’s adultery and left to swim or sink by her own efforts. Now think of Team Sussex, a geyser of naive energy that nobody dared curb for fear of getting scalded.

As for conceit… in Royal circles it’s as ubiquitous as red carpet. In the age of Twitter and individually curated Windsor websites, it may be the easiest Royal sin to fall into. Centuries of deference have hampered the uphill task all Royal people face of distinguishing between their genuine talents and the superpowers wished upon them by friends, paid sycophants and a mercurial media. But that sliver of self- awareness is their lifeline, a critical 21st Century Royal survival skill.

By co-operating – even tacitly –with authors Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand, Harry and Meghan revealed once and for all the depth of their own conceit. Why else allow such invasion of their own privacy and, damningly, the privacy of other family members?
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Seen on a forum:

The problem is that articles draw clicks and you know the whole song and dance. I tend to believe that there are more detractors than supporters (whose numbers are dwindling by the day and we just need to compare the volume of the respective threads here), so perhaps we need to do our part as well and just stop reading.

However, that is a double edged sword because then they will be permitted to continue the clear lies without any accountability.

I genuinely feel bad for the Royal Family and any celebrity who is tied to them via articles because the RF will not lower themselves or dignify a response. The bulk of these celebs mentioned barely know them or have zero relationship with them and they don't want to get caught up in the indignity of it all as well. We've already seen multiple celebs who have had to come out and quote Mariah Carey and they should not have to do so simply because she wants to create an illusion that has no basis in reality.
Bennie said…
Good Morning Nutties!!!

New Harry Markle... "The Harkles 'Hard' at work (9.5 million mortgage to repay)

https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2020/08/14/the-harkles-hard-at-work-9-5-million-mortgage-to-repay/
LavenderLady said…
@Peony
PRincess Alice saved some Jews from tbe Holocaust. I don't remember tbe details but she was no Nazi

@Girl With A Hat,

Yes your are correct. Alice was certainly no Nazi but rather was rewarded as a humanitarian who sheltered Jews during those dark days. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I stated Princess Alice was a Nazi?

I did state the Queen Mum didn't approve of Prince Phillip because of his Nazi ties-meaning his sisters who were married to Nazis.

The photos of a very young Phillip walking in a Nazi funeral procession (was it for his sister who died in an airplane crash I don't remember?) were highly unfortunate.
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Bennie said...
Good Morning Nutties!!!

New Harry Markle... "The Harkles 'Hard' at work (9.5 million mortgage to repay)
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Jeeze, even before reading the article, Harry looks like he is totally stoned.
LavenderLady said…
@Fairy Crocodile,
I nearly burst out laughing after the minute details of the house location and layout appeared in the media. Privacy? Modest life away from publicity?

Harry is more confined now than in his royal life and the media wants to see them fail. So they will be chased and ridiculed.
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I live for the day Harry is photographed sitting on the porcelain throne dropping a "dukey" (as we used to say in Cali when we were teens in the 70s)
... a la ARod, JLO's squeeze.

That was hilarious!! LOL.
Grisham said…
A quick reply from last night lol, and now I can’t remember who replied to my comment that prince Charles would like the house. This person said he likely wouldn’t like the house. I said house but was thinking of the grounds. I have seen a lot of pictures of the gardens, and they are extensive. Hidden gardens, I think I may have seen a door? Bricks with foilage around them. The grounds /gardens look to be spectacular. (Not speaking of the house). Yes, along with that comes major coin for upkeep.
LavenderLady said…
"The only throne Harry will sit on is made of porcelain". I can't remember (CRS these days:) where I saw this but I died when I read it!

Have a great day Nutties. I'm going back into reading for awhile. I'm exhausted. Whew!...
Grisham said…
I’m outside gardening again, so just inside to cool down and check this blog. Has anyone (maybe one of our locals) checked out the zoning laws or covenants for Riven Rock?

And thanks for clarifying it was Lady C’s mother lol
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
tatty said...
I’m outside gardening again, so just inside to cool down and check this blog.
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So, how are we doing?
xxxxx said…
luxem said...

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/why-prince-harry-didnt-ask-royals-to-pay-for-montecito-house/
I don't think anyone has posted this story yet. It goes along with what I have been wondering - did the Harkles blindside the BRF with this purchase and the BRF has kept mum trying to figure out exactly what mess Harry has gotten himself into and how to protect his ass(ets) and theirs!

It is hilarious that MeMe thinks a house that sat on the market for 10 years, is in a mudslide path, and was bought at a cut-rate price will somehow earn her a hefty profit if they decide to sell.


DSPMan clued us in how there were much more suitable Montecito mansions at half the price. Smaller and more cozy. Especially more suitable as in annual operating expenses would be 20% of the $15,000,000 white elephant they foolishly.... They bought and will never be able to sell because once a white elephant, always a white elephant. It will not go back to a fresher, better, unburdened status. This property is properly "haunted" in a sense.

The whole usmagazine.com article above is a must read. Charles was told nothing and was asked for nothing. No dollars to contribute. This says to me the absurdly spendthrift Duo obtained their 9 million dollar mortgage from Bank of Russian Oligarch.
The Dubious Duo sure showed Charles and the entire envious (lololol) BRF how independent they are, on The Road To Freedom!

As Hikari said -- Much more mad hijinx to come from the Gruesomes. They are only getting started in greater Los Angeles and Hollywood. Supposedly the Hollywood movers and shakers are bailing dues to crime and the rampant homeless population.
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Hollywood's Apocalypse NOW: Rich and famous are fleeing in droves as liberal politics and coronavirus turn City of Dreams into cesspit plagued by junkies and violent criminals
By CAROLINE GRAHAM IN LOS ANGELES FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY
16 August 2020
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8631063/Hollywood-Apocalypse-rich-famous-fleeing-droves.html
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8631063/Hollywood-Apocalypse-rich-famous-fleeing-droves.html

Stay the HELL out of the states that have managed to make life good!!!
LavenderLady said…
@Lt,
So, how are we doing?
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Great! :) Carry on.

I'm going back into to reading mode so you can relax.
lol... And so I can enjoy my beautiful Sunday.

I wish you guys a positive Sunday! :)
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Pink Peony said...
@Lt,
So, how are we doing?
_______________________________________
Great! :) Carry on.

I'm going back into to reading mode so you can relax.
lol... And so I can enjoy my beautiful Sunday.
________________________________________________________________

You're the girl! :)

Want to know something?

I lived in a place that had peonys everywhere. Ex-boyfriend taught me to take very good care of them.

To this day, I can remember their unique scent.

:)
HappyDays said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
@Happy Days

Nativity pageant? Yes, with herself as Mary and H as a sheep.

@WBBM: LOL! Yes, Harry would make an excellent sheep, or pigeon if any had been present at the nativity. Sadly, at this point, he may already be relegated to being a prop potted plant in the background on Mayhem’s stage.
Blogger Pink Peony said...
PRincess Alice saved some Jews from tbe Holocaust. I don't remember tbe details but she was no Nazi

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Here are the details again - I posted them this morning.

She cut contact with her daughters & nazi sons in law.

George VI had hoped, as many people did, that there was an alternative to going to war with Germany. It became clear though that the only alternative was capitulation and Edward being brought back as a puppet. Many Upper class people in the 30s were afraid of a Communist takeover & appeasing Hitler seemed the lesser of 2 evils.

Anyway, here's what I said earlier:


Princess Andrew Of Greece (ie Alice, mother of Prince Philip, not to be confused with Alice of Athlone, who also lived in BP or Alice, late Dowager Duchess of Gloucester, who didn't!) sheltered a Jewish family in her Athens palace. She is honoured at Yad Vasshem as one of the Righteous Among the Nations. Here is part of the citation:

"Princess Alice came to the aid of the Cohen family, who had left Thessaloniki at the outset of the German invasion. By the time that the Cohen family needed help in Athens, Haim (Haimaki), the head of the family and a former member of parliament, had already passed away (in January 1943). Haim Cohen’s friendship with the royal family dated back to 1913 – when he had the honor of hosting members of the royal family (including King George I) in his mansion in his native Trikala.

His wife, Rachel, however, was not acquainted with the princess or any members of the royal family. At first Rachel had found refuge for her family on the outskirts of Athens, assisted by Anna Chrysaki*, but then, after three weeks, they had to leave for fear of denunciation by the neighbors. Three sons – Elie, Jacques, and Alfred –managed to escape from Greece. They reached Egypt, via Turkey, in December 1943, joining the Greek forces in the Middle East. In the meantime, Rachel Cohen and her daughter Tilde found refuge in the residence of Princess Alice, in an apartment on the third floor. They stayed there from the middle of October 1943, until December 15, 1944. The princess provided two trustworthy liaisons, Dimosthenis Pouris and Simpoulou, and, with their help, communication with the outside world was made possible. When the fourth son, Michel, had been forced to return to Athens, he, too, was given shelter in the royal residence. The princess paid regular visits to her Jewish wards, staying for cordial conversations with Rachel. Being deeply religious, she expressed interest in the Jewish faith. The Cohens’ real identity was kept secret, and the staff was informed that Rachel was a former governess of the princess’s children, and her life was threatened under Hitler’s rule. There were times when the Germans became suspicious, and Princess Alice was even interviewed by the Gestapo. Using her deafness, she pretended not to understand their questions until they left her alone. After the war, Princess Alice continued to maintain contact with Rachel, often visiting her at her Athens home. Later, contact was maintained through correspondence, since the princess moved to England. She died at Buckingham Palace in 1969."

At https://righteous.yadvashem.org/?searchType=righteous_only&language=en&itemId=4013687&ind=NaN

My emphasis.


Philip can be rightly proud of his mother. Also when the Germans entered Athens, they came to her and asked it there was anything they could do for her? Yes, she said `Get out of my country'.

The Queen Mum didn't like the fact that PP was penniless -doubted if the was marrying her daughter for the right reasons - was it for cash and restoring his prestige? He may have been descended from Western European roots but his sisters' marriages didn't help. Also, he was strong-minded, like her.
Midge said…
Just read the new Harry Markle. Take a look at the picture of Meghan doing her "interview". The right side of her chair doesn't seem to match up with the left side ?? Is that just the angle of the camera or photo shop?
Miggy said…
@Midge,

It's the camera angle.
Miggy said…
@MusicDSPGuy,

Thanks for the Noozhawk article.

"Half of Riven Rock now is encompassed in a sea of mud."

Let's hope Meg refrains from foot stamping on the rare occasions when it rains heavily!!

As for...

I also had a quick look at the current property listings for Montecito area and what is interesting is that there are some really spectacular yet easy to run estates in the $5M to $7M range on the market. Some are really impressive. So spending $15M in the current market for what they got was pure ostentation. Nothing else. They could have got a really nice impressive place for the down-payment with annual running cost of maybe 20% of what they will be paying for the carbuncle they actually bought.

I totally agree with you.
LavenderLady said…
@Lt,
Back at cha girl:) BTW I dig your handle. She was the coolest.

@WBBM,
Blogger Pink Peony said...
PRincess Alice saved some Jews from tbe Holocaust. I don't remember tbe details but she was no Nazi
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Just to clarify, this is Girl With a Hat's post. I replied to her this am to say I did not state Princess Alice was a Nazi.

Just going for clarity to not add to the hoo haa, as a friend in Belfast used to say. In US means something very different but I love how it sounds. :D

BTW I so appreciate your historical knowledge. I enjoy all of your posts.

Hugs:)
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CatEyes said…
@emeralcity said...
"They could also claim quite a few tax exemptions on a percentage of the home used for business as well.

Also if indeed the purchase is linked to the Travalyst business, as an LLC, a default on the loan means it would be the company left holding the bag, they can't come after H&M personally. The same would apply if the home gets swept away in a mudslide, all bad news for the mortgagee."

Yes a home office is allowed according to IRS regulations but it has to be modest in size and those who take advantage of it better be very careful as it is one of the most scrutinized deductions the agency looks at. Then as far as the HAMS using their home as a business well I highly doubt it as there are probably both stringent zoning prohibitions and likely real estate CC&R's (Codes, Covenants and Restrictions). Typically CC&R are written into when the subdivision was created and binds any future owners of properties affected in the area, to a set of regulations of what cannot be done on a subject lot within the jurisdictional boundary of the subdivision (often used in higher echelon areas and Condo associations). Since the home sits on a private road, then it is highly likely CC&R's exist as it would most likely set forth how the road is to be maintained, and properties maintained, etc..

More intriguing is whether Harry cannot be held personable liable in the case of a default if a LLC was used. Here are some following ways one might be held liable despite an LLC.
"In certain situations, courts can ignore the limited liability status of a corporation or LLC and hold its officers, directors, and shareholders or members personally liable for its debts. When this happens, it is called piercing the corporate veil. Closely held corporations and small LLCs are most likely to get their veils pierced (corporations that are owned by one or just a few people are called closely held corporations)." Travelyst definitely meets the definition of a closely held entity.

Here are some ways to pierce the corporate veil (which may apply to Harry)

"Cosigning or Personally Guaranteeing Business Debts:
If you cosign on a business loan, you are as equally responsible as the corporation or LLC to pay it back. This is usually the simplest way to voluntarily make yourself liable for your company’s debts. Similarly, if you personally guarantee an obligation of the corporation or LLC then the creditor can come after your personal assets if the business defaults on the loan.

Pledging Your Property as Collateral
If you have a new company or your company does not have many assets, a creditor may require you to provide some sort of collateral before approving the loan. If you agree to pledge your house or other personal assets as collateral for the business loan, the creditor may be able to take your property and sell it to satisfy the obligations of the company.

Piercing the Corporate Veil
Above we discussed the ways you can voluntarily make yourself personally liable for a corporate or LLC debt. However, a creditor can also try to go after your personal assets by eliminating the limited liability protection provided by the corporation or LLC. This is commonly referred to as piercing the corporate veil.

CatEyes said…
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CatEyes said…
Part 2:
Piercing the Corporate Veil
Above we discussed the ways you can voluntarily make yourself personally liable for a corporate or LLC debt. However, a creditor can also try to go after your personal assets by eliminating the limited liability protection provided by the corporation or LLC. This is commonly referred to as piercing the corporate veil.

The corporate veil is usually pierced if the creditor can show that the corporation or LLC was a shell created only to provide liability protection for its owners or the company was practically inseparable from or an alter ego of its owners.

Courts will be more likely to pierce the corporate veil if:
1. Corporate formalities, such as holding annual meetings and keeping minutes, were not followed.
2. Certain owners exerted too much control over the corporation or LLC.
3. Owners commingled personal funds with company funds or used personal funds to satisfy company obligations.
4. The company was not sufficiently capitalized when it was formed.

Fraud
A corporation or LLC’s owners may also be held personally liable if they are found to have committed fraud. If the owner made fraudulent representations or omissions when applying for a business loan, he or she can be held personally responsible for the resulting harm to the creditor and risk losing personal assets. Alternatively, if a corporation or LLC was created to further a fraudulent cause or business, a court can pierce the corporate veil to get to the owners as well.

In addition, Harry will remain personally liable for any wrongdoing if he commits during the course of the LLC business. "For example, LLC owners can be held personally liable if they: personally and directly injure someone during the course of business due to their negligence." What if Harry encourages people to travel to unsafe areas and they get hurt? Would he be liable? A good atty. would certainly try to make it so and any litigation would not be good for such a company who depends on the goodwill of satisfied customers.

Already the way Travelyst was formed does not inspire confidence that it has an intact corporate shield IMO. It is has evolved in fits and starts with shady funding and a murky legal status. Harry better have the best attorneys going forward and even then, it will not necessarily keep him and his Travel Co. baby out of trouble.
Ian's Girl said…
Rightly proud, indeed. I have a such a soft spot for Princess Alice. The video of her at HM's wedding, sailing down the aisle, head held high in all but full Orthodox nun regalia, is perfection. God bless HM & PP for not excluding her from the ceremony.

I'd march in whatever funeral procession I needed to for any of my brothers. I thought PP stood in stark contrast to the Nazis, and I think it was wonderful that he went. There were plenty of other men there who weren't in Nazi uniform.

I agree that it would be fairly easy to use this newest Russian house as a under-the-radar Soho House, but I think they bought it to (temporarily) satisfy Nutmeg's materialistic side and show-offedness. Many people have mentioned that Meg seems to be frozen in the 90s, and a 7 acre estate in Monticeto would have been the sh*t at that time. ( Still is, really!)
@WBBM,

I think you’re confusing 3 different Alice’s. ;o)

Alice of Athlone wasn’t the Princess Alice who was the wife of Prince Henry The Duke of Gloucester. This Alice was the daughter of The 7th Duke of Buccleuch. Parents of the current Duke, Richard.

See link here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Alice,_Duchess_of_Gloucester

Alice of Athlone died in 1981, and her father was Prince Leopold, Duke of Albany.

See link here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Alice,_Countess_of_Athlone


Princess Alice, Prince Philips mother became a nun as you correctly state. ;o)
Mango said…
Meghan Markle planning movie return that could earn her a whopping £38m...
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Dream on, Megs! The only way she would earn that much would be if the film was a hit and she had negotiated for back end points, and apparently Meg knows allllll about back end deals (sorry, couldn’t resist!)

She is probably frothing at the mouth wanting to do a drama that addresses “weighty issues”, with dark lighting, sotto voce dialogue and MM without makeup so we can see just how serious she is about her “craft” and how much she’s grown artistically from her one-minute “starring role” in “Horrible Bosses”.


Please pardon all the quotation marks - I’m just so done with this over-reaching slag, her grandiose plans, and her verbose, bloated speeches that I could scream. I hope her first movie will be a straight to video discount-bin flop that will set the tone for her future acting aspirations.



CatEyes said…
@Barbara from Montreal said...
"The DM has an article this morning saying their living costs, including all their housing expenses (there'a s complete breakdown) will come to 5 million pounds a year but the allowance from PC only comes to 2 million. So where are the other 3 million going to come from?"

1. Meghan's sugars can start a go-fund-me account.
2. Meghan can go back to yachting for the 80+ set
3. She can sell the family jewels; no, wait, Harry already got rid of his ;-)
4. Meghan can write (oops, plagiarize) a cookbook
5. They can sell FF to all their fans, wait, there aren't many.
6. They can sell the lifelike 'Archie' Darren doll with a certificate of authenticity.
7. Ask Mark Cuban to ink a deal with them as he said they were "WORTH Gold".
8. They can sell little sacks of soil from their estate (like you see Holy Land soil being sold).
Miggy said…
A couple of our downmarket tabloids are now reporting that Ginge & Cringe have joined the Coral Casino Beach and Cabana Club.

It has a £240,000 initiation fee, plus an annual membership charge.
@ CatEyes: Love your list. Here`s another idea: MM can put that stripper pole in their new mansion to good use and practice her moves before applying for work in one of LA`s finest 'gentlemen`s clubs'.
AnyaAmasova said…
Apologies if this has been discussed prior to this post. Regarding the ability for Megs to transform her property into a SOHO house or B&B or AirBNB.......

Montecito is an unincorporated area of Santa Barbara County and is adjacent to The City of Santa Barbara (eastern edge) an incorporated city in the same county. When I was there looking for a property (2009, 2010, 2011), brokers often referred to it as The Village of Montecito. Somewhere near the upper village (very small commercial zone) is a small house (pink?) like structure that housed the local regulatory and zoning employees. This is where one would go to find out the residential restrictions for a property in which you might be interested. Let us just state that Montecito is highly restrictive in terms of what one is allowed to do with real estate. The entire community save for about two small commercial villages (the upper and lower) is zoned SFR (single family residences) most of which sit on at least an acre or more. The smaller properties are near the lower village and as you go higher the properties tend to become larger, with more expansive views. IIRC there is a fairly nice condominium/townhouse complex near the 101 and another one south of the 101 adjacent to the Coral Casino (the beach), both of which had to have been permitted decades ago. Note to interested parties; though older, the complex near the beach is a pretty terrific site.

Communities like Montecito (think parts of The Hamptons, The Town of Palm Beach, Florida) all have very draconian restrictive covenants that they take seriously and enforce. As the years pass and with the advent of VRBO, Home Away, AirBNB, these small "municipalities" have clamped down further. Many now include any rentals, save for leases terms of a year or more.

All of this is to say that at least officially, Megs will not be "renting" out rooms to assist with her mortgage payments. Montecito is for "Quiet Enjoyment" only.
Girl with a Hat said…
People here have expressed admiration for the Queen Mum and her personality. While it's true that her strength of character helped in the difficult situations during and after the war, on a personal level, she caused a little of issues in the Queen's family.

She placed herself between Prince Philip and Prince Charles, for example, and tried to stir discord between the two. She then had Prince Charles' devotion and retained, so she thought, her influence at Court.

I see this behaviour in a lot of older women who try to stir animosity between their children and grandchildren, in order to remain in favour in someone's eyes. It's also very narcissistic.

I just read a story in Sunday Magazine which had a critique of a book based on the life of Queen Elizabeth's governess when she was a child. I was horrified to learn that despite the woman's devotion to the two little princesses, she was ostracized and never had any further contact with the BRF after publishing a cute little book about the Princesses Elizabeth and Margaret called The Little Princesses. It was supposedly very fawning but the BRF had no further contact with her, and didn't even send flowers to her funeral. This was the Queen Mother's doing.
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JHanoi said…
according the US magazine, which i think is a mouthpiece for MM, they bought it all on their own without PC’s help.
and that JCMPH hated LA, not private enough, surprise surprise, and loves this place, very private .....until MM dropped the breadcrumbs.

sounds like they took no advice from the BRF, and maybe only advice from MM’s team, because they wanted to do it on their own and without the thumb of the BRF.
big mistake imo. cost and living eexpenses aside, the tax implications of living i the US/ CA would be concerning to me. but JCPH has always been in a bubble, a lamb waiting for slaughter in the outside world. my guess is he didn’t do well in mth in school and has little understanding of budgets, income, taxes, etc. i hope for his sake, i’m wrong.
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AnyaAmasova said…
Further on the RE front:

According to Harry Markle, the lawsuit filed on behalf of Megs & Archie (as claimants) against the a cadre of unknown paps in Los Angeles County, stated that the H$rkles were "guests" of Mr. Tyler Perry in his home. The word guest, or houseguest, certainly implies that these individuals were not paying for their room. Harry Markle arrived at this conclusion as well.

But here is the issue and it is a TAX issue. Was Mr. Perry in residence during the four odd months the H$rkles were mooching off him? Both the IRS and California Department of Revenue might consider a four-plus month stay in an $18M house in BH, without the owner being present, more of a Tenancy. If that is the case, what is the value of the Tenancy. And do not come back with $1.00. Those days are gone. The taxing authorities will be more than happy to calculate a Market Value Rent. The MVR for a short term rental in BH in that house might well exceed $100,000/month. So Mr. Perry might have made $400,000 for the rental of his house to a paying Tenant.

This leads to the game of who will pay the tax? Did Mr. Perry GIFT the house to the H$rkles. Federal gift tax is 50%. Or will ordinary (rental) income be imputed to Mr. Terry or will income be imputed to the H$rkles?
JHanoi said…
wullie- i don’t know alot about blogs, copyrights, etc. BUT i do know that Perezhilton was sued several years ago for taking Pap shots and using them on his blog/website.

i don’t remeber all the details, you can research it, I believe he won the lawsuit because he would draw (like a 2 year old) on top of all the photos before he posted them to his website, thereby changing the images to “art’ or some kind of fair use for news? anyway i believe he won, so that could be a way around the issues, if you change the images.
AnyaAmasova said…
@Wullie'sBucket
Everything about the H$rkles is distressing. I too am waiting for the day when ALL is exposed to the entire world. Karma does exist and in time it will come for the Mrs. JH will get bitten in the butt as well.
AnyaAmasova said…
One last thing on the RE front; the $18,000/monthly amount given as both a rental payment and a repayment of renovation expenses.

Those of us in the RE business understand this proclamation, shall we say, lacks transparency. If this were a business, with a set of financial statements, we would be "booking" completely separate transactions. One on the Balance Sheet, two on the Income Statement.

Let's start with rent. What is the annual FMV rent for Frogmore Cottage in 2020 in an "arms-length" transaction? To consider this properly, the owner would enlist the service of one or two market professionals in that area to obtain the correct answer. Further, what would be the annual increases to that FMV rent, or at least a guess. Plus, what does the rent or lease payment cover? Who pays for utilities, repairs & maintenance, grounds upkeep? I will assume the owner pays for the real estate tax and the primary insurance on the dwelling, but not the posessions of the lessee. What is an appropriate Security Deposit held by the Lessor to ensure rental payments and repair of damages beyond normal wear and tear? This must be at least $15,000/month, plus Security Deposit paid up front.

Next is the debt owed to the UK taxpayer for the funding of the renovations. This should be a separate amount. The total debt sits on the BS as and accounts receivable. Interest should be paid and payment schedule (time) should be agreed upon. Is this paid off in one year, two years, three, five ten? At what interest rate? Dies the interest rate fluctuate with the market? Are payments made monthly? If the monthly payments are low, is there a Balloon Payment due at the end of the term.

All of this above should be clearly stated publicly to the UK taxpayer.

Grisham said…
@Lt. Uhura it’s going well but it’s a big job. I wanted to do it myself. I’m making a Cottage garden, so phlox, coneflowers, hydrangeas etc. I’m having to uproot and move a lot of things to get the look right.
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Aquagirl said…
@Anya: I don’t think that the Harkles staying in Tyler Perry’s home would be considered a tenancy. People (especially those with more than one home) often let friends stay in their houses for free. This is not considered income.
SwampWoman said…
The thing is, a successful small businessman has to have 360-degree vision (I'm using the male gender words because I'm lazy and it's easier). He has to anticipate economic trends by being aware of world conflicts, area conflicts, supply chain problems, and possible Federal or local legislation that could negatively affect his business. He has to closely watch his customers for signs of economic problems lest he not get paid. He has to watch his competitors. He has to keep a very close eye on the cash flow to maximize profits and minimize costs. He has to keep his customers extremely happy and constantly try to improve. He has to keep abreast of technological breakthroughs that affect his business. (I'm skipping a lot because SwampMan is outside honking the horn impatiently.)

I'm just not seeing the work ethic of a successful businessman, small or large, demonstrated by either of them.
abbyh said…

Home Office and the IRS

It is legal, one of the most common deductions to trip their wire AND because you have been getting the deductions all along, it does factor in the tax calculations when the property is sold later on (why some people I know don't "take advantage" of it even though there is a good case for it passing the smell test - too much hassle).
Aquagirl said…
@Anya: Agree about Frogmore. This should be clearly spelled out for the UK taxpayers. I still don’t understand why they are keeping this house as their UK residence when it seems apparent that they won’t be returning and it doesn’t seem as though they can afford to keep it. Even if JH returned alone, I doubt that he would live there.
JHanoi said…
i reveiw graphics alot as well so cases like that intrest me, and another lawsuit i remember resulted n the opposite of Perezhilton.

an artist used a news photographer’s image of Obama i think during his 1st pres campaign. the news siet was a big one, time, newsweek, the AP or something.
anyway. the artist at first denied using the image as his inspiriation, then admitted he did ( he had to provide the files of his process along the way to show his work in developing the art) he took a photo, ran it thru photo shop, altering the background to basically a solid and then posturized it.
the image was used everywhere, on T’s, posters, signs, everywher, it was extremely popluar.
the artist Lost the lawsuit due to copyright infringement.
it surprised me because he changed the image more than PErez does, but Perez uses his for a blog /news webite and i think that was the difference.
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JHanoi said…
wulie - i dont know if they could find you lol.
i think you’d need to change/delete the metadata behind the images and might block them?
Aquagirl said…
@Wullie’sBucket: I agree, but I think that the taxpayers are already angered. What could possibly make the Montecito purchase ‘okay’ when they still owe so much money on Frogmore? I’d love to see the inside of Frogmore. Is it even furnished?
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Maneki Neko said…
@Aquagirl

@Norma D: Thanks for posting this. Her pulling power? Please! People want to get away from this woman, not see more of her.
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If people go and see MM in a film, this will just be for the curiosity factor.
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Lily Love said…
@wullie’sbucket

If just Harry and Megsy had even an ounce of integrity they would have finished paying off the renovation for frogmore, bought a 7 or 8 million dollar home, not a 15 million dollar one. They would have also never asked for anything from the UK or the bank of daddy and paid for everything that they wanted themselves.
Bright on said…
The Qm / PP / PA thing actually went back to PA stating she was the last blood princess to marry into the Windsors as opposed to the daughter a mere Scottish earl, got back to QM and not a happy gin buddy after that sleight :D
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AnyaAmasova said…
@Wulie'sBucket and Aquagirl,

IIRC there was some story (DM) about the moving vans showing up at Frogmore Cottage after the summit agreements, and HMTQ letting staff go or repurposing their positions. February 2020, early March?

Of course that could have been just personal items, not furniture etc.

The BRF would do themselves a favor and be utterly transparent about Frogmore. Account by account. Terminate the lease. Collect the debt from Harry, with interest and repay the UK taxpayers. Then advertise the property to someone who wishes to pay a FMV rent and who would love to live there and care for the property.
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xxxxx said…
CatEyes said...
@Barbara from Montreal said...
"The DM has an article this morning saying their living costs, including all their housing expenses (there'a s complete breakdown) will come to 5 million pounds a year but the allowance from PC only comes to 2 million. So where are the other 3 million going to come from?"

1. Meghan's sugars can start a go-fund-me account.
2. Meghan can go back to yachting for the 80+ set
3. She can sell the family jewels; no, wait, Harry already got rid of his ;-)
4. Meghan can write (oops, plagiarize) a cookbook
5. They can sell FF to all their fans, wait, there aren't many.
6. They can sell the lifelike 'Archie' Darren doll with a certificate of authenticity.
7. Ask Mark Cuban to ink a deal with them as he said they were "WORTH Gold".
8. They can sell little sacks of soil from their estate (like you see Holy Land soil being sold).


Such great money making ideas! I hope that Megsy or her people happen to cruise by this blog and pick up on them. My additional suggestion is that having backyard chickens is very in these days with the Hollywood crowd. Megsy could set up a chicken coop and sell specially monogrammed eggs from her 15 million dollar abode. Eggs that have some kind of Sussex™ whatever stenciled onto them. Just leave the word Royal off them and The Queen (and her grey men) should be good with this.

Surely her uber wealthy neighbors will appreciate having a close by source for fresh Sussex™ eggs for their spinach-mushroom omelettes. "Jeeves can you please go to our delightful new Royal neighbors and get us some fresh eggs for brunch"
Maneki Neko said…
@Lt N Uhura

Harry rubbishing the older generation shows just what an ignorant twerp he is - a dangerous one as well.
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And William addressed the nation yesterday to honour veterans on VJ Day.
Girl with a Hat said…
their book is already half price in the UK

https://twitter.com/julesverne12345/status/1295049515645509632/photo/1
Raspberry Ruffle said...
@WBBM,....

With respect, I don't think I'm confusing 3 Alices. I thought had laid it out clearly.

Princess Alice of Battenberg Prince Philip's mother - born in Windsor Castle, one maternal line went back to Victoria, the male line were all German princes. Sister of Louis of Battenberg ie Lord Mountbatten, Philip's uncle.

She married Prince Andrew of Greece and was therefore known as Princess Andrew of Greece. Widowed, she lived the life of a nun. Honoured at Yad Vashem.

Alice (Countess) of Athlone grandaughter of Queen Victoria, her father was Victoria's 8th child, Leopold. Known as Princess Alice. I apologise in that she seems to have lived in KP. She was Edward VII's 1st cousin. I probably saw her on TV for the last time at Anne's wedding (1973)

The third Alice, to whom I was referring was not a princess in her own right, just married to a Prince of the Blood, Henry, Duke of Gloucester. She was Dowager Duchess of Gloucester, mother of the present Duke. I said she didn't live at BP.

BTW, the British Royal family gave up their German titles in 1917; the person who insists on using them is not only more than a hundred years out date but deeply discourteous and offensive.
@ Miggy: If that report is true, and they really have joined that super-expensive club, then they really are throwing around money like drunken sailors. How in the world do they plan on paying for all of this?
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Lily Love said…
@wullie’sbucket

I Would love to know who paid the down payment. Because if they could’ve put down a down payment on their new house they could’ve finished paying off the renovations for frogmore. I hope the BRF completely cuts them off next year because the only way that these two Are ever going to learn some humility is if they truly have to pay for everything by themselves. I would also like to know how they think they’re going to make a lot of money. Neither of them have come across in a good light and no amount of good PR put out by her people putting is going to change that.
hunter said…
Haven't made it through the 1000 comments yet but if nobody has mentioned it, I believe the Real Housewives franchise ladies only make MAX a couple hundred grand a year. I'm sure the big names like Bethany pull in a bit more but it's not as much as you may think.

I suspect the RH starter ladies make around 100K (based on time/exposure), maybe up to 200 and that's for the entire season, more if they are able to secure appearances and promotions. Anyone with a better estimation please chime in.

That's barely enough to cover their annual taxes on that property if she devoted every dime of it.
Maneki Neko said…
@Barbara from Montreal

@ CatEyes: Love your list. Here`s another idea: MM can put that stripper pole in their new mansion to good use and practice her moves before applying for work in one of LA`s finest 'gentlemen`s clubs'.
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I saw just the very thing in the gym 😉.

You can check here:
https://www.lonny.com/Look+Inside+Prince+Harry+Meghan+Markle%27s+Palatial+14.7+Million+Montecito+Mansion
@Bright On - which PA do you mean? I am confused now!

The last Princess to marry in would have been Marina of Greece, wife of George Duke of Kent, I should think. Was it Princess Andrew who said it?

Certainly eligible princesses of any blood were very thin on the ground during Charles's bachelor days, all the available Europeans ones seemed to be devout Roman Catholics!
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Aquagirl said…
@Wullie’sBucket: I don’t remember reading about the moving vans either. And I agree with you about paying for the clothing. The reason why she was able to spend so much upfront was to build a wardrobe for her role in the BRF. Since she stepped back, she should have to reimburse these expenses. Also, I do believe that she was double-dipping in many cases: JM was giving her the clothes for free and she was invoicing Charles. That is the ONLY explanation for her ridiculous, off-season choices.

And yes, I’d love a search warrant for Frogmore and a trip to CA to search for baby Archie. But sadly, all we’d find is some old moon bumps and the Darren doll in his box.
If they (supposedly) joined a super-expensive, super-exclusive beach club in Montecito, how would the tabloid press know about it? Clubs like that are extremely discreet about their membership. It seems like a little bird (aka Megsy) must have told them. And why? Does she not see that this kind of information contradicts all their self-righteous preaching about equality and makes them seem like even bigger hypocrites?
@Bright On:

Which PA do you mean? Was it Princess Andrew referring to Princess Marina of Denmark and Greece? Wife of George, Duke of Kent? Mother of the present Duke, Prince Michael and Princess Alexandra?

RR -you may have misread the citation from Yad Vashem. It refers to our `Princess Andrew' by her maiden style of Princess Alice of Battenberg , that is PP's mother, not Alice of Athlone.

I wish I'd never started this.
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hunter said…
@Hikari said, "If there was a gestational carrier, it seems most likely that MM's ovum was used, since she had a fertility clinic in Toronto [...] human eggs bring big money for sale and I wouldn't put it past her to have thought about hers for cash."

As an egg donor (11 babies born, thankyouverymuch) I would like to respectfully note that biracial donors are not widely sought so the market for such is small. It would require (generally) a biracial mom who wanted exactly the same to match with her husband's sperm - a relative tiny percentage. Even so, frozen eggs are never sought out - the egg transfer is done live with both the donor and the recipient in the facility on the same day, I assume they swizzle the eggs with sperm first.

Just sayin - no market for frozen biracial eggs.
NormaD. said…
Daily Squib
Spoof articles/pictures. Lots of send ups of the Harkles current & past activities
dailysquib.co.uk
Miggy said…
@Barbara from Montreal,

@ Miggy: If that report is true, and they really have joined that super-expensive club, then they really are throwing around money like drunken sailors. How in the world do they plan on paying for all of this?

I have no idea! Probably the same way they are paying for everything else?

Where's Inspector Clouseau when you need him!?
JHanoi said…
PA/ Qmum/ PP - it was a different time. royal blood/ status / and pecking order was even more valed then. heck it’s extremely imprtant to MM, she stated thru her ‘friens’ to the media lol, that no one could take away Archie lineage ((7th? or 8th) to the throne.

As far as PP/ Qmum/ PC -. I’ve also read that PP was extremely hard on PC, different personailties and expectations from PP based on his background and experiences.

Also Qmum and PC were probably close because he was the first grandchild, and PP/ HM left him at Sandringham with Qmum and KG at 2 yrs old to go on tour for 6 months. It was a different time and royal children were brought up differently than the hoi polloi’s kids.

I’m great admirers of both PP, Qmum, HM, PAnne, and even PC and Cam. i never thought i’d like Cam, but she’s grown on me and i like her! her years of hard work and good fit/partner with PC changed my mind.

Aquagirl said…
@Puds: Sounds as though JH has gotten himself into a horrible situation.

I agree. I was actually thinking, why don’t I set up a Foundation? And yes, I think your cat can claim you as staff.
Miggy said…
@Barbara from Montreal,

If they (supposedly) joined a super-expensive, super-exclusive beach club in Montecito, how would the tabloid press know about it? Clubs like that are extremely discreet about their membership. It seems like a little bird (aka Megsy) must have told them.

It claims 'sources close to the couple' - so yes, probably Mega-mouth!

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/meghan-markle-harry-join-swanky-22529075?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
lizzie said…
@CatEyes,

Thanks for the info about the mortgage and piercing the corporate veil. I'm not an attorney but I wouldn't think M would want that veil to be too "un-piercable" so far as "their" CA house goes.
jessica said…
Ok so I went down a rabbit hole this morning...

Clearly Meghan and Harry have not denounced the Royal family.
They just hated their personal duty and responsibilities.

Clearly they want the Queens money forever.

Clearly they now are positioning themselves for politics in the USA.

The question is, as they only apparently deal with Foreign Interests to achieve anything (UK money, Queen money, Russian favors, Russian discounts) are the actually a plant in the US?

The Queen has not denounced them. They have not denounced the Queen.

That will have to happen, otherwise with their trail it will fall on the Monarchy trying to dismantle US politics and relations.

Thoughts?
NormaD. said…
@AnyaAmasova

Prince Harry and Meghan Already Sent Moving Vans to Frogmore Cottage
By Morgan Halberg • 01/23/20 12:11pm Observer.com
JHanoi said…
Harkles and the Country Club set - the Harkles could have gotten a freebie membership due to their celeb stauts and lineage. while all members are probably filthy rich and some celebs,
the Club may have wanted to get some of that Tarnished Royal fairy dust the Royals sprinkle around.
Or, if Oprah were a member or some other rich person, they could have given it them as a house warming gift!
Miggy said…
This tabloid claims they 'want' to join, rather than have already.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/inside-meghan-markle-harrys-private-22527925
YankeeDoodle said…
My best to everybody, especially Aquagirl, whose comments are my thoughts about to be written, except Aqua girl writes it first. Also Lt. Uhura, WBBM, and most everybody.

WBBM, I know much about Yad Vashem, Righteous Gentiles, and more, as my mother’s family were honored by Israel for hiding over a dozen Jews in their estate from the Nazis. The husband of my mother’s aunt’s family were ex-royalty in Europe, and thus they decided not to leave Europe. After two years of hiding Jews, during which time a baby was born, one of their neighbors f..Ed them over, revealing the site the Jews were hidden, and the Nazis sent the Jews to death camps. The newborn baby was thrown up in the air for target practice, along with a toddler. My family was sent to concentration camps, not death camps, because they were ex-royalty, and one cousin was a hero with the Red Baron during WW 1, another cousin was a 1936 Olympian, and she was part of the assassination attempt, along with Rommel, on Hitler. She was not put to death because of family, but the Jews were then exposed. Remarkable story. I have lived, went to university and visited Israel eight times. Our family converted to Judaism when I was a small child.

My father fought for over two years in the South Pacific. He is Seen in films shown on the documentaries “World at War” narrated by Laurence Olivier, and “Victory at Sea” with music by Richard Rodgers. His legs, at age 97, are still strafed.

It is very easy to do the right thing. There is a price to pay for everything, good and evil. However, my parents say they could sleep at night, knowing they were honest, raised good kids, and never cheated or tried schemes to part a man and his money for any selfish reasons. To sleep peacefully is only for people who have done the right things. By the way, my parents and family never talked or bragged about themselves. Americans, up until ten or fifteen years ago, were strivers, hard-working, and proud to be American. We were not victims. We left the “old Countries” to work and succeed in life.

CatEyes said…
@xxxxx said...

"My additional suggestion is that having backyard chickens is very in these days with the Hollywood crowd. Megsy could set up a chicken coop and sell specially monogrammed eggs from her 15 million dollar abode. Eggs that have some kind of Sussex™ whatever stenciled onto them. Just leave the word Royal off them and The Queen (and her grey men) should be good with this."

Great idea, maybe instead of stenciling Meghan can put her calligraphy to good use and ink the monogram initials they currently use on their stationary. I got some breeds of chickens to suggest. With that much acreage they could get some dairy sheep from Charles and she could produce sheep milk cheese, like a rosemary infused variety. If the Queen is pleased with its quality, they could get a Royal warrant. Of course there goes the landscaping, at least up to 3-4 ft.

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