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New post to discuss the Sussex saga

The previous post was getting a bit long, so here's a new post to continue to discuss the Sussex situation.

I am sorry for my absence; duty calls.

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SwampWoman said…
@Hikari, thank you for your well wishes. I prefer not to drag the bodies of my deceased after me. It was just an illustration as to why I think that she's full of crap. I have a feeling that she will use *this* as a way to silence her critics since everybody is over her racism-based pity party.

I will say this for her, though. Every time that I think that it isn't possible for me to think less of her, she proves me wrong yet again.

@Wild Boar Battle-maid, I feel your pain over writing romantic fiction. I, too, would be a total failure because I would write what life together is, not what starry-eyed women imagine it to be. (After I got married, I stopped reading romantic fiction and started reading murder mysteries.)
Natalier said…
CookieShark said...
Also, why would one cramp make you think you were miscarrying? I'm sorry but that doesn't make sense.

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This! Why would anyone think a cramp is immediately a miscarriage? If you feel a cramp during pregnancy, you feel anxiety and worry and hope it is nothing too serious. The way she writes it is like she is regurgitating things that she imagined or heard.

Then the sink down while holding on tightly to her firstborn - gosh, that sentence is totally ridiculous. Any mother would grip onto the crib, side of bed or whatever and put the baby down before they sink down on their own. They gasp or breath quickly when in pain - who can sing a lullaby.

Her story sounds like a something totally made up in her head, romanticized and illogical.

Miggy said…
Apologies - my last OT post.

@Spanner,

Thank you, that information is very much appreciated.

Ouch!! What happened to your arm must have been extremely painful but it's good to hear that you've healed now. I also have osteopenia, so have forced myself to take things at a much steadier pace, instead of my usual running around like a lunatic!

My dupuytren contracture is gradually getting worse and I'm praying that I don't end up with a permanently bent finger! In the past, I've had 4 operations, (within 2 years) on severe triggering fingers and one trigger thumb, (have the most painful basal joint arthritis in the thumb now to add to the usual finger arthritis) so I know how frustrating losing the use of your hands is!! (numerous items of broken crockery spring to mind.)

At this point in time, I am willing to try anything to ease the pain in my joints, so as soon as things return to normal and I can double check with my doctor that none of these remedies will interact with my meds - I will.

Again, thanks :)
none said…
Timelines are a good way to sift through to get to the truth. Does anyone know what Markle was up to in July? Her involvement in the Althea Bernstein situation was June 29. What came next?
Christine said…
Weeellll. Checkmate on the part of Meghan Markle. She has been eviscerated on the part of the press and they've been losing in every direction. For her to turn around DM opinion (not entirely) is HUGE.

I believe she miscarried. She needs to achieve another pregnancy and badly. She may currently be pregnant again which explains the delay from the judge. She told him she's in a high risk pregnancy. Man, oh man, Harry is in trouble with her. You sense that there is no getting out for him.

The Royal Family are going to have to pull a rabbit out of their collective hat to keep up with her. Charles probably won't give up the money train now. And will the Queen pull the titles now?

The article is so cringeworthy and so full of b.s. details like she looks for extra socks and picks up crayons?! I think not. The way she changed that narrative of the Are you Okay story is unbelievable. Very head scratching.

I will be kind before Thanksgiving and not say too much.
SwampWoman said…
Blogger Hikari said...
Enbre,

Do we think she is going to attempt to register “are you OK?” As her copyrighted intellectual property?


Y'all are keeping me away from my cooking by having too many interesting comments. STOP IT!

(My copyright would be "If you aren't projectile vomiting or arterial bleeding, I don't want to know about it.")
Miggy said…
@xxxxx, - Thank you! :)
@Hikari;

I was thinking of the halving of her hoped-for divorce pay-out, by virtue one of still having only one sprog, not two. Though the other losses you suggest may well come into it.
AnT said…
HappyDays,

You’ve said exactly what I am thinking. I think your every point is right and from their PR strategy sheet. (Remember, newest Pinterest lady team member was a mommy blogger groupie)

Just read the entire piece, from a friend who emailed the text of it. Not because she thought it was wonderful, but because she finds it to be their lowest, most loathsome PR stunt yet. She has had two miscarriages. I have had three. Of varying levels of horror at various stages. None of this rings true. I am sorry, but it is a stunt. — And as I wrote that, another furious friend who had a miscarriage just last year, just texted: “...did I see this? Is she stark raving? What a liar! Unbelievable s**t.”

Remember, M is a malignant narcissist. You think they won’t lie like this, about a subject this tragic, for attention? They will.

An ugly stunt, concocted to, in one swoop, jump on the Chrissy Tiegen bandwagon, to counter the death of Lupo, attack Eugenie (“she gets a house and baby, I get nothing!”), make the court think she is too delicate and suffering for a trial or to turn over records (although laughing with Gloria Steinem), preclude any info dropping about Archie’s actual state of being, excuse the use of adoption or surrogate for cash-grab baby #2. Maybe get more cash out of Charles (“can’t work, healing!”). And to excuse lack of work to Netflix too.

And to try to turn her most dastardly stunt: moaning no one ever asks how she is against a backdrop of horrific human suffering band poverty in Africa, into her moment of glory.

Showing us today that she has learned nothing, and it cannot be true, or she would have now written:

“Now that I have lost a baby, I feel so terribly ashamed of myself — how could I have focused on my myself in that grisly whining way on our expensive luxury trip with fleet of Range Rovers, when Sub-Saharan Africa had the highest infant mortality rate in the world in 2019. Moreover I am very ashamed I made new mothers sit on a possibly dirty floor with their precious infants, when I didn’t even bring Archie to subject him to the same experience. What was I thinking?”

But she didn’t, it is all about herself, a crying woman on a NY street — extra fictional add-on character, so we think of MM as the woman crying alone in public, of course! We are ordered to think of her crumpled, weeping, in a hospital bed, common citizens! ——(and so NYT would publish it? Why not LA Times, hm?). It is yards of her twisted, narcissistic, laughable, and much maligned “no one asks if I am ok” statement, which her twisted brain tells us was well received.

(And would dear friend McPhee be publicizing baby news so heavily upon her bestie’s loss? Hmm?)

I feel such contempt for M, H, and for their new shameless PR team. Oh, and.. privacy, my cat’s bum.

She is even sicker than I thought. And that is saying a lot.
O/T If it's any consolation, Miggy, I believe that Dupuytren's contracture is genetic. A friend has it and says she was told it's a sign of Viking ancestry. She's naturally blonde, looks Scandinavian, and her family originated in a part of England with a high Viking input into the population centuries ago.

Could that be possible for you too?
Christine said…
I saw this old 20 Questions with Meghan Markle thing when she was on Suits. She acted very glib during most of it but when the question was "What is someone you share in common with your charactor on Suits?" She said "Ambition" so fast and with this glint in her eye.

I have a bunch of work today but I'll read the whole thing later on. Looking forward to all of your opinions.

Agree with you AnT on your points about the Chrissy Teigen bandwagon, death of Lupo, Eugenie heavily pregnant living in Frogmore, the court and dealing with Charles. It ticked all of those boxes.
Natalier said…
Btw, California has been in a lockdown for a long, long time. I heard they were not even allowing families in for ICU visits, near death situation or major surgeries and Harry could do it without PPE, gloveless et al? I guess they were maskless too since there was no mask to absorb their tears.
Oh Floof said…
Lurking,

My experience was the opposite of yours. The people who knew I miscarried avoided me. When I finally went out with some neighbors, one said “well I guess we have to talk about it, how’s it going?” I didn’t want to “talk” about my loss, but I would have appreciated some sympathy, or a hug, or a “you’re in my prayers” etc.. I got nothing from anyone who knew. I learned who my friends were at that time.

Miscarriages are sadly common. But this fussy prose sounds the same as the honeymoon prose in FF, with the birds whose tails looked as though they had been dipped in pots of paint singing them a chorus. It’s poor quality writing, trying too hard, just like everything Meghan does. And it is more proof to me that Meghan wrote portions of FF.

I didn’t go to the hospital. I bled like I was having a period. I saw my OBGYN, and they confirmed I had lost the pregnancy. But this was in the first trimester. I don’t want to call out another woman on a deep,y personal experience, but I doubt this happened.
Sylvia said…
@Hikari
Thanks I do see why with Fergies behaviour at that time that she was was perceived as being common (Princess Michael stated 'All that winking to the congregation whilst walking down the aisle on her wedding day so common!)) Behaviour not then thought typical public behaviour of that class.
Unknown said…
I am sorry for the Sussexes' loss if true. My best friend and my Mom suffered miscarriages. The impact is emotionally and physically devastating. While I hurt for any woman that miscarries, the Sussexes' uneven demands for privacy feel like a PR game of chess. All the side stories and politics in the article makes the account feel insincere almost like propaganda.

Her description of NYC circa 1998-2001 rings false to this native NYer. We are not "living" poetry on the sidewalks; we are power-walking from point A to B while closely guarding our valuables. NYC is fairly safe if you keep your wits about and yes, either that woman on the sidewalk is imaginary, a tourist who got robbed, or someone the cabbie suspected wasn't mentally all there and beyond help.

What bothers me most about disclosing the miscarriage is the timing feeling so strategic. Assuming Rache is truthful, she sat for four months to publicize on the eve of Thanksgiving and in one of the world's most famous newspapers to:

- Wait 2 months after Chrissy publicizes her miscarriage when her's happened 2 months before Chrissy's did. Is the wait a copy-paste of a PR model she learned got great mileage for Chrissy and John Legend?

- Do some quick damage control after that cemetery fiasco; publicizing their recent family loss makes them "seem" sensitive and incapable of being intentionally crude and exploitative of other families loss and pain. The keyword is: seem.

- One-upping the days old news of death of Cambridge's dog Lupo with their months old news of their "second child's" death

- Compete with the recent positive development of Catherine's "5 Questions" study in early childhood with her own baby/motherhood experience & knowledge and her most important question: Are you okay?

- Eclipse recent news of Princess Eugenia's pregnancy & moving into Frogmore Cottage; such news highlights their loss of their last anchor to the U.K. and the BRF. Now we have reports of the BRF sharing in their grief when the miscarriage was "secret" to the public and so the Sussexes are constantly "secretly" talking and connecting with the BRF.
none said…
Here are the Harkles on July 12. Markle's wearing a white dress.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8513577/No-sweat-Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-step-appointment-scorching-Beverly-Hills.html

Other activities I've found so far include July 14's Zoom message for the Girl Up Leadership Summit, and earlier on July 1 a video call with the Queen’s Commonwealth Trust.

none said…
@Natalier

Good point...nothing about her hospital experience in the time of COVID.
Sylvia said…
@Tatty
Joining other nutty bloggers in sending you very best wishes to you for your recovery after your hip operation.It may well be daunting waiting for your operation.
Try to think of the aftermath when you will gain so much mobility and no more pain .Hope All goes well for you
AnT said…
@Natalier, Also very good points. Agreed.

@Wild Boar Battle-maid, in the manger indeed! You nailed it. Virgin Mary cosplay returns for the holidays.

@Hikari, all brilliant. And yes, I am very worried about their dogs as well.

......Got busy with a sudden new emergency project with tight turnaround deadline yesterday and just sent files out, then started to catch up and read this and yow. Sorry I vented so strongly, but gah. Now off to catch up on all the previous posts.
Miggy said…
@WBBM,

Yes, I do know that Dupuytren's contracture is genetic but unfortunately my parents came to the UK at the end of the WW2, so I therefore don't know the medical histories of their respective families. However, one of my parents was a doctor, so if they had been aware of anyone in the family having it, I'm sure it would have been mentioned.

As for having Viking ancestry - I somehow doubt it. :)

CookieShark said…
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Sylvia said…
Reading everyone's harrowing shared experiences of the loss of their babies.
Thank you all.
It can't have been at all easy for all who shared to recall and retell yet you have all come through to help each other in friendship .Even those who may not have shared it will have helped all reading this blog to feel understood because you all express yourselves in a genuine manner
What brave strong warm caring perceptive clever talent bloggers you all are and you have all retained humour & humanity .


none said…
On July 23 the Harkles filed a lawsuit over the drone photos of Archie. Busy month for them.
AnT said…
@CookieShark, exactly.

And, where was the part about how supportive her mother Doria was, helping her recover from this harrowing “miscarriage” event?

Because isn’t Doria alternately nearby, the nanny, a social worker with a masters degree, and her loving rock of a mom? A woman with whom she would share powerful female experiences like this?

Did I miss that part?
In Britain, anyone who is not a member of royalty or aristocracy is a commoner, regardless of their social class. Sarah Ferguson (aka Fergie) and Camilla Shand were both upper class Brits, but did not have titles before their marriages into the BRF, hence were commoners. That's quite different from calling someone "common" which is a huge insult - it's the British equivalent of Americans calling someone "trailer trash" and means pretty much the same thing.
Mel said…
Disgusting stunt.

Hospital walls aren't stark white anymore. They stopped doing that in the 50's.
You don't fall to the ground singing cheerful songs. What is wrong with her?

She deliberately pulled this because it's one of the few ways left to shut down any and all criticism. She was getting bad publicity on many sides, she had to pull something drastic out to change the narrative.

Although this is a one shot. Can't pull that again. What's next? Dog dies, baby dies, husband dies. It's going to have to be something really drastic to top a miscarriage.

Who's going to criticize a woman for anything when she just suffered a miscarriage? Except that she didn't just suffer a miscarriage. It was months ago. But that's what this is about. You can't criticize me, I had a miscarriage.

Now she's not only a 'young' mother, she's a bereaved young mother. Just waiting for her to be a widowed bereaved young mother.

We called it earlier when Chrissy had all that publicity about her miscarriage. I'm just surprised mm waited this long to pull her stunt. The Cambridge's losing their dog probably sent her over the edge.

Notice how she refers to Prince Harry as just my husband, like he's just some random dude. On par with the unknown woman crying on the street. Not worthy of a name. Just some guy. My husband. You wouldn't know him, he goes to another school. In Canada.

The person we really care about, Prince Harry, is completely irrelevant to the story, not even worth using his name. He's nothing.

And why bring up all the unrelated stuff? None of those people had anything to do with a miscarriage.

She's such an incredibly bad writer....it's not true, too flowery, mixes all kinds of unrelated thoughts into it, too many irrelevant details. White walls? Seriously?

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Re: the court case

The news articles said that mm's legal team specifically asked for a court date no earlier than Oct 15th.
There are several reports like this one, from People I think,- saying that the drama is often overdone in the soaps:

“You get some really powerful portrayals, but I think the thing that people find the most difficult is when you have a highly dramatic miscarriage scene, which tends to show someone falling down the stairs or falling down in the street clutching their stomach in a pool of blood, which generally isn’t how miscarriage happens,” Ruth says.

In Alice’s opinion, stereotypical depictions of baby loss in soap operas are frequently void of the emotional aftermath."

I expect we'll find the script her words come from.

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@Miggy - well, the Viking did get to some far-flung spots - founded Moscow, went down the Volga, were in Istanbul (runes in Hagia Sophia!) Greenland, Sicily & N America!
Miggy said…
@ WBBM,

True, they did. I may have to eat my words! ;-)
This is from the People report:

“You get some really powerful portrayals, but I think the thing that people find the most difficult is when you have a highly dramatic miscarriage scene, which tends to show someone falling down the stairs or falling down in the street clutching their stomach in a pool of blood, which generally isn’t how miscarriage happens,” Ruth says.

In Alice’s opinion, stereotypical depictions of baby loss in soap operas are frequently void of the emotional aftermath."

Other reports express the same view.

Strange that she should be so `devastated' at apparently naturally aborting a 3-month foetus when she apparently accepts with equanimity that late abortion by intervention is fine. How many abortions is she supposed to have had? She could have said that she was revising her views - some hope.
Grisham said…
AnT, so far plenty complain she wrote too many details and therefore the story is fake and then you come on and say where are more details. (Not picking on you, please understand....)

They are damned if they so and damned if they don’t.

Just like how FC wa ps an awful mess cemetery plot and now isn’t it wonderful that Eugenie and Jack this great house on Windsor grounds close or family.
Grisham said…
WBBM, daily mail sure dramatized sophie’s story with her also collapsing in agony to the floor.
Maneki Neko said…
MM said 'I realized that the only way to begin to heal is to first ask, “Are you OK?”' Really? If her father reads MM's purple prose in the NYT, he'll wonder why he hasn't been asked the same question by his daughter. Has she no shame to go on and on about it, yet, as far as we know, she hasn't even asked her father.
Pantsface said…
@Tatty, Sophies situation was far different, she had an ectopic pregnanacy and I can tell you from my own experience, it is excructiating pain. Sadly I have also had an early miscarriage (pre 3 month) and the physical pain between the two was incomparable. However we are all different and have different pain thresholds.
Grisham said…
Pantsface, yes, I do understand that. I know two women who have had ectopic pregnancies and I do understand it is greatly painful and a risk of death to the mother as well.

Thank you to the person who suggested MSM for joint maintenance (sorry, I’m so distressed at the joy expressed here today that I’m not even going to scroll up and see who posted it, please forgive me. I like supplements and appreciate the suggestion and will buy some).

I’ll try this blog another day when it isn’t so ghoulish.
Pantsface said…
@Tatty, hope the op goes well and I'm also looking into MSM :) so yes thanks to the poster that mentioned it
I apologise if I have been too blunt.

Apart from that - no comment.
Grisham said…
Pantsface, thank you, and I’m sorry to hear you had an ectopic pregnancy and a miscarriage. I’ll TTYL.

Button said…
Unbloody believable..I am just gobsmacked. This creature stoops to new lows everyday.
AnT said…

Catching up:

@Puds,
Reading to catch up and saw his timely line from one if your comments (Nov 25, 3:13 am) about extracts from her court docs....one document line says “in an attempt to protect her family, including new family members, from media intrusion...” This makes me wonder if this so-called miscarriage has something to do with her “confidential” grounds to move the trial, will Justice Warby be furious she spilled to the press and did more whining?

@Hunter,
Thank you for the compliment. I am happy to be here among so many amazingly bright, articulate commenting parties. But I am oceans away from the knowledge base and skill set level of Hikari and Wild Boar Battle-maid and others. They could do a book and I would buy it!

@MagathaMistie,
Some of your best work yet. Just brilliant. If a top rocker met Shakespeare, this naughty observational prose would be born.

@Hikari and MustySyphone,
Prophetic, your wondering about what the next dumpster fire from the Montecito lie factory would be. And here it is seconds later. You are right. She is barking mad and would love even more notoriety.

@SwampWoman, I am so sorry for your losses as well. I can relate. I had a “silent” early miscarriage and drove myself to my ObGyn to see what it might be. I then had a hemorrhagic miscarriage, at about 3 and a half months, in Germany. I called my doctor, we went straight in, D&C, me forgetting my language skills and not humming tunes. A third was also early, one I also got to the doctor on my own. I have also suffered a late stage stillbirth due to undiagnosed sudden preeclampsia; that was late at night so we went to emergency. In every case, my doctors were emotional with me, and assured me what had happened was devastating yet common. Our grief was private. I did not write flowery prose or feel like hanging out with Gloria Steinem. I did not feel unique, nor do I now. Many of us have experienced this.

We are all different beings, but I cannot imagine using any of those sad experiences as fodder for PR columns linked in with news events, to buy myself some political portfolio stuffing, or to get pity money from my in-laws; particularly while publicly ignoring my father.
Christine said…
I don't sense anyone in here being happy that Meghan has miscarried. I do sense disbelief (in all or part of the story), amazement (at the timing of the announcement) and wonder (at what the overall outcome will be).

I feel a bit wistful for Harry.
Hikari said…
Another celebrity pregnancy loss... Singer Christina Perri released a statement that her daughter was born prematurely stillborn despite efforts to save her. This marks the second loss this year for her; she had a miscarriage at 11 weeks in early January this year.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/25/entertainment/christina-perri-loses-baby-girl/index.html

This news hit the airwaves hours before Meg’s op Ed piece was released in the Times. How much do we believe in that being pure coincidence? I think it’s common practice to reserve some space in papers in case of last minute scoops, like celebrity obituaries, that might occur just prior to going to press. Perhaps they were all set to run with another letter in that spot, but after Perri’s announcement, Got the car to run with Meg’s piece? It’s just that too many coincidences favorable to Meg seem to surround her constantly.

The only thing that would lend credence to the miscarriage actually happening is setting it more than four months in the past. Seems like if she were going for maximum sympathy/deflection points, she would’ve made the event more recent. Quote my husband and I experienced a miscarriage just a week ago, and We are still recovering from our shock and grief, but I am so brave and powerful I was determined to share this with you now, even though I am writing from my bed. Because that’s the kind of person I am!
Button said…
I don't believe for a moment Smegs had a miscarriage. There really is no level this creature will stoop to get sympathy and play the victim. Again. This is the woman who alleged that her father molested her and her ex-husband ' was not kind '. I call bollocks on this. Is it a coincidence that Smegs is now putting this rubbish out there right after the Frog Cott article re: Eug and Jack? Eug who is actually preggers?
HappyDays said…
So now in addition to the race card, she’ll play the miscarriage card. Archie is too old for her to play the new mother card.
Ròn said…
Nicholas Witchell, the BBC Royal correspondent who ‘choked’ when having to report on Archies birth, was on the news bulletin today reporting on the miscarriage. I have to say he did look very serious and spoke at great length and in a very funereal tone. I was watching his expression (!) to see if that gave anything away but no, he seemed to be treating it as genuine. Hmm..
Pantsface said…
I think the timing of the announcement/piece for the NYT has been called into question on the Harry Markle FB page - 3am ish NY time but just in time for UK british news outlets first thing this morning. Not sure if that was MM's doing or the newspapers, we don't celebrate Thanksgiving here, and essentially it was supposed to be an article about Thanksgiving, no matter how woolly, or how self serving it turned out to be. If I were her PR, I'd do a huge reconciliation dinner with her Dad, but no doubt that is scuppered with the court case
jessica said…
My husband heard the news, and he said oh well that’s fake. Her whole narrative is a big Messy PR work of fiction victim narrative pitting her against the RF.

I think he’s right and judging by the amount of people on this blog that have to assume she is lying (because she is always lying)...we probably aren’t collectively wrong.

Think of it this way, normal people would release a small statement back in July. Instead, Meghan held onto this supposed life event and then embellished and elaborated and inserted global issues at the right time for maximum attention. When time goes on, the need to make the past event a dramatic storyline increases with Meghan (see: the letter, Megxit, her deleted past).

The problem she has is all her lies are recorded and we can sift through them at great speed. If she wants everyone to ask if she is OK, she needs to be reliably honest otherwise people just don’t *care*.
Martha said…
She will stop at nothing! Anything for PR. I don’t believe she miscarried for one second. When we she receive her comeuppance? In this media controlled world, as long as she can pay for coverage, or hustle in some way (the miscarriage is the most recent hustle). I fear she will be indulged. I am sickened by her.
Mel said…
Read that drivel and tell me she *didn't* write FF herself.
Button said…
She had a pretty hectic July, eh? From another observer:
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The miscarriage was supposed to have happened in July, so we can look back at July.

1st of July, Harry apologises for racism.
7th of July, Meghan’s announced as the Girl’s Up speaker.
14th of July, Meghan gives that speech, complete with new hair, a hint to some kind of beauty work done.
20th of July, “sources” tell US Weekly that Doria is *still* living with Meghan and Harry and spending a lot of time with Archie. PR move.
20th of July, a PR piece in Hello! making sure the world knows that Meghan and Harry congratulated Beatrice on her wedding.
Bafos deRoliude said…
She was unlucky with the timing again. Diego Maradona died today and this is being the headline everywhere...
Sandie said…
Tarot reading from late October ... the ambiguity of it makes sense now.

https://talkingtarot.tumblr.com/post/633328655228076032/thanks-for-looking-out-for-me-guys-i-channeled

For a drama queen like Meghan, a miscarriage, even though it was at an early stage, would have been very dramatic. Different women experience different ways of losing a baby ... thanks to all those who shared in this conversation. Women really are the stronger gender, aren't they? (Yes, that was a very biased statement, but I no longer try to hide my bias!) I also think that many women do not respond immediately with a flood of tears because they are in shock. I think the grief can be delayed or suppressed as well.

Timeline ...

Meghan was 'absent' for the last two weeks of July, but Harry did two Zoom calls.

That appearance with her in the creased handkerchief dress was early July, when she was pregnant. Remember her marching ahead of Harry when exiting the medical centres, with a determined look on her face?

She was very active in being seen from the beginning of August, and debuted the Morticia hairstyle and heaps of 'in control' word salad.

Maybe she is pregnant again because from late September, or even as early as the conversation wirh Gloria, she was looking very joyful in her appearances, and fuller in the face and the breast area. Maybe I am obsessing about details?

As for her being praised for 'breaking the silence' ... (no, she did not) I always assumed women who did not talk about it, announce it, write columns about it, give interviews about it, chose not to for very normal reasons. Silence can be seen as a sign of empowerment (I choose what I share and who I share it with). For those women who are struggling and need to talk to/need help but don't know where to turn, we need really good, accessible, free support services.

By the way, from what Edward and Mike have shared (both Sophie and Zara have had miscarriages), it seems that men also need an option of a support service if they don't have family and friends to talk to!
Sandie said…
@puds

Very well said. Reality is mostly not as dramatic as Meghan and her choir make it out to be.
Hikari said…
Nicholas Witchell is my hero. This veteran newscaster didn’t choke... he refused to lie. Not being willing to participate in a glib fakery, he honestly said “there’s nothing to say here; back to you.“ Now he’s obliged to report, at his vulnerable age, yet another story on the reproductive processes of the Duchess of Sussex and she’s not even in the country. The way Buckingham Palace Continually indulges this woman and helps to spread her lies, thereby giving them the patina of authenticity is really infuriating.

I know Witchell Doesn’t work for the palace, but it would seem to me the best way to start with a Sussex dumpster fire of oxygen as for the palace to issue a super injunction re. Anything to do with the Sussex pair. Their official comment is that “this is a very personal matter and we have nothing to say.“ But then they allow rubbish like “the Sussex is have been in secret contact with the palace since July, And everyone wept with us and was so supportive… And oh by the way, we told Eugenie and Jack they could borrow our house since we aren’t using it.”

There’s a Latin phrase, I think provided by one of our esteemed legal Nutties That goes “he who stays silent gives consent.” Meg has been testing this theory since 2016, And has discovered it’s true. BP will not dispute anything she puts out there. Silence Appears the more dignified course, but meanwhile her lies circulate and circulate until they acquire the weight of facts.

I wish her Majesty and Charles too, continued health and vitality, But I do wish that William had more power in the current regime to deal with his renegade brother and his brothers Grasping bunt in a more decisive and transparent manner. BP would not have to go into where do you statements of defense. All they would have to do is to release a pithy statement to the effect of “Statements Issued today by the Duke or Duchess of Sussex are incorrect and misleading. We have no further comment. “

This miscarriage scheme is the same barrel she had them over when she pretended to be pregnant for most of the year. There is no way of disapproving a sensitive and confidential medical issue. Scammers have been taking advantage of this for centuries. There is nothing to stop Meg for Inventing as many medical emergencies as she wants for attention and to get out of this lawsuit, or to get out of doing her homework for Netflix. Next I expect it will be cancer treatment, some extremely rare form that only exceptionally special people get. Perhaps arch well will be soliciting donations for cancer research, or pregnancy loss prevention initiatives. That money go straight into her bank account just like all the other charitable donations they have received. I think it would be possible to prove medical fraud, but for the time being BP has to take her statement at face value value.

She’s never going to stop. I hope that’s dawning over there in Buckingham palace. Not only is she not stopping, she’s escalating. Some thing has got to be done.
Sandie said…
A lovely article from Camilla Tominey posted here ...

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-5918#post-65337546

I don't think that Meghan or Harry see the hypocrisy in what they do and say, so there will be much more of the same ...

I have always said Meghan does not want privacy but complete control of her image. Harry, I think, does want privacy, but is unable to fund the lifestyle he wants and be private.
Sandie said…
And I fully agree with this post ...

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-5918#post-65337744

Enjoy the read!
JHanoi said…
i think Enb got it, she realeased this now because a couple of days ago the Cambridges posted about losing Lupo.

IMO, She’s been writing the peice for weeks or months though. It has her trademark flourishy, contrived, melodramatic prose.

She admitted in court documents she worked on her Dad’s poison pen letter for several weeks and got passed to around the communications team and select relatives for review. It has that similiar awkward stilted turn of phrases. Who writes a letter like that to their dad? and spend weeks writing it out? If i need to write a letter, I procrasinate until i can’t anymore and then just write it to get it over with and sent.

The only difference is MM is trying to tie it together with wokeness points to show she is enlightened instead of narcissistic. from what we saw she didnt do that in dads letter.
none said…
Also in July the Harkles reportedly purchased their Montecito home.
ReallyDonna said…
Can anyone tell me what a cheerful lullaby is? Seems like an oxymoron going by strict definition. I'm confused.
CookieShark said…
Huge F u to the DoC. I knew she would do something.

She even works in a lecture about asking questions.

This unfortunately disables, once again, anyone from criticizing her. She knows damn well BP will not comment.
CookieShark said…
Also why a lullaby if you just got him up out of his crib?
AnT said…
Hikari,
Agreed. Escalating and escalating. I fear nothing will be done.

Either there must be some magical line they have yet to cross, or the RF assume we can all see the lies and the crazy. This mess is going to bloat and expand until William has more say. Or until someone with a big pin of evidence decides to pop the bubble.

AnT said…
Sandie,
Good LSA post. Thanks.
SirStinxAlot said…
Meghan was probably inspired by Chrissy Tiegens actual miscarriage. If Meghan was actually pregnant and miscarried, she would have been fighting with Chrissy for the spotlight this past summer for sympathy. The article sounds like it was over the top and completely made up for sympathy in a critical situation. Wonder if H mentioned this to Charles around Remembrance Day. After the family found out she was going to tell such a huge lie, and Harry was going along with it they may have decided enough is enough. Charles was the one actually trying to protect them from the consequences of their dumb actions. It is clear there is no low too low for them. They are not empowering, they trivial nobodies clinging to the monarchies reputation.
Mel said…
Think she's been reading up on Chrissy Tiegen much?

An article about Chrissy where the woman talks about embracing the first child while being sad about the miscarriage.

You know mm had to have plagiarized that from somewhere. She doesn't have that kind of insight.

I worked specifically with the mother as she tried to embrace her joy for one child while also mourning another.

https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/catholic-doula-i-walk-women-joy-and-grief
Puds said, It was annoying to hear the BBC newscaster refer a couple of times to how powerful Megans article was (BBC likes Megs and her politics). It good to have such reasoned and interesting responses found here and on other sites.

The BBC is Woke etc., so Megsy is in favour. :o/
lizzie said…
Other things that happened in July: FF was released, we were treated to stories about plans for M's upcoming Aug 4 birthday including her desire to have a party with people taking rapid COVID tests first, and the complaint about the Royal Foundation re: Travalyst was filed.
Sandie said…
@ReallyDonna
I think she confused a lullaby wth a nursery rhyme. The editor either did not notice or was too afraid to question her, or did not have the time. Meghan will probably have some word salad explanation about soothing herself with a lullaby, but she had to call it a cheerful lullaby to not alarm Archie?

Off topic ... did anyone see that Scotland is making sanitary products freely available for all women? Celebrate! This is a big one for the history books.
@ Lizzie

Markle doesn't seem to realise she has just given more ammunition against her court case. The highly intimate and private details of her miscarriage could have only come from her alone. And she had no qualms sharing them with the media. In fact she had most likely written the article herself.
ReallyDonna said…
@Sandie--Thank you kindly for your reply. I'm sure she thought she could edit her own piece, narcs always do. The whole thing (the article, not the miscarriage) is a little bizarre, the oddest details. Very different than Chrissy Teigen's story.

Her Nibs certainly has an interesting way of expressing herself, to put it delicately. I wonder if she knows that every time she shares these bits of her psyche, it reveals how little emotional intelligence she possesses.
Opus said…
What an odd world in which we live where now the greatest fame is found in self-pitying behaviour; where the greatest virtue is accorded to those who are ethnically challenged, sexually ambiguous or of the other sex. Did Nelson take pen to paper to complain about his missing body-parts, Byron as to his clubbed foot or Beethoven that he was losing his hearing. I don't recall it. Did the Royals of my parents generation moan publicly about doodle-bugs, rationing or blackouts, yet both Sussex's are at pains to let you know how two of the most privileged people in the world are constant victims and need your sympathy.

My Mother had a miscarriage after my birth (a bit too close for comfort that) and the memory of it upset her for the remainder of her life and even though she was to produce my younger siblings but she was at the time of the miscarriage almost forty and frankly if Markle wanted children the time for her to reproduce was in her twenties: Her body;her choice. If I choose to become a world class pianist I will surely gain little sympathy if I fail in my endeavour by commencing my quest in my forties.

I, of course, do not believe for one second that she has been pregnant at any time during her marriage. One cannot become pregnant if ones husband is a roast chicken. Why if she had been pregnant did we not see her clutching her stomach or rather her pillow. So much easier to just assert the disappearance of something no one even suspected existed.

The RF have brought this upon themselves. We need a new Lord Protector.
@ Martha

Her over the top PR is backfiring. Yes she would be able to get some sympathy but a lot more will question her motives.

Many women suffer miscarriages and this horrible experience is highly private. Markle screams about it from the top lectern. "My my my I I I, look at ME, this year is so ugly because it was MY tragic loss, give your sympathy to ME"

After hysterical demands for privacy her public tears and intimate details just make people uncomfortable, judging by the vast majority of comments I saw.

CookieShark said…
This is huge narcissistic supply for her. And no one can question it.
And now she will be affiliated with all kinds of pregnancy brands. Here come the lectures.

She once again had to set the story straight about her "ok" question. She is always trying to correct the narrative. Every interview seems like an attempt to smooth over some kerfuffle.
@ AnT

"Escalating". True, it actually went over the top and crossed the line.

Sophie struggled with both her pregnancies and I recall hearing she had miscarried too. She wasn't frantically spilling the ink, scribing her experiences for the newspapers, neither was she publicly sobbing over her husband's reactions in order to gain PR points.

Meghan may be a self-proclaimed feminist but give me Sophie and her dignity any time.

.
Hikari said…
@opus

Thanks for the reminder about the roast chicken! Here is yet another current bit of unflattering publicity that she no doubt hopes to rebut by publishing this story now. Harry can’t be gay if he’s been impregnating her like a good boy. Oh well whoops that one didn’t take; have no fear, he can’t keep his hands off me so I’ll soon be knocked up again soon. This piece could in fact be the salvo for A happy announcement forthcoming—The sandingringham Christmas walk is not happening this year due to Covid, But Meg could still attempt to upstage the Cambridges’ Christmas photos With a pregnancy announcement. As a bonus, it would be just the time of year where they could stage this announcement in front of a nativity crèche, Or I’m certain that well heeled Montecito Has a riding stables for the purpose.

These Two defy belief.
On BBC News at 1, N Witchell was in a blue suit with a lightish blue tie - not the funereal togs all newsreaders keep on stand-by I gather, in the event of the death of the Queen and National Mourning being announced. In 1952, all radio programmes were replaced by solemn music and only news bulletins survived.

I think NW had no option but to do and say what he did - could hardly have said what many of us think.

At least Maradona, covid & the parlous state of the economy pushed her to the bottom of the listings.

Are we about to be given a follow-up from her? Without credible evidence, I shall have problems believing other than that she has exploited something of extreme sensitivity for her own dubious purpose. In fact, I fear something even more grotesque from her, which nobody would dare criticise. Will she insist on a memorial service/plaque?
@ Cookie Shark

May be Markle's public womb baring will be applauded by some but not by everybody. People can tell the difference between a genuine sorrow and exaggerated display.

PaulaMP said…
Haven't had time to read all the comments, but I'm sorry to say my first reaction was that Meg did all this to try and distract from their being evicted from FrogCot for good. I do not believe the dramatic story she came up with. What better time than Thanksgiving to announce this, when everybody is thinking families and their inability to be with loved ones due to the virus. The comments on the DM are all positive, she is the people's princess etc. No. She has proven that she is a liar in almost every instance, not sure why people are believing her now.
Louise said…
Spanner said:"'My off-the-cuff reply seemed to give people permission to speak their truth' -"

This was almost verbatim from her Zoom show with the adolescents. That and saying that she was sensitive due to breast feeding when she said "No one asked me if I was ok""

All from a previous event.

She just rehashes the same material.
Angela Lansbury said…
FairyCrocodile: Markle is article writer. This time no Omid.

Tatty comments flummox me. Maybe posts deleted? I read blog same like Christina does. Mostly sensitive posts and incredulity at Markle news. Don't see no one wishing Markle ill will. I don't think Markles are damned if they do or do not. They have option to silence or follow BRF manners n rules. If this is not PR exercise than why no release in Oct during pregnancy loss awareness month? Why not then advocate against taboo of miscarriage discussions like she say in article? Writing like this shows agenda not charity. She is seeking celebrity sainthood.
xxxxx said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQErY55m8vo&feature=emb_logo
With Her Head Tucked Underneath Her Arm (1934)
@ Angela Lansbury

Precisely. The vast majority of comments I read are like this: "sorry to hear this, this is awful, but didn't you want privacy? why do you upload all these extremely intimate details now?"

This is a legitimate question taking into account her tantrums about the media intrusion into their private life.
SwampWoman said…
Louise said: This was almost verbatim from her Zoom show with the adolescents. That and saying that she was sensitive due to breast feeding when she said "No one asked me if I was ok""


Her breasts should not have been tender at that point. I say bullsh*t.
AnT said…
@Fairy Crocodile,

The perfect choice of the word “escalating” was Hikari’s, and I cannot claim credit for it, I was just responding to her post in strong agreement.

Just as you note, though, this latest PR item went over the top, even for M. What is really sad is that she is the only person I would disbelieve over a story of such a personal tragedy, Her determination to lie over the years has made everything she utters nearly impossible to believe.

That she used the tale of such a tragic kind of event as clickbait to get published, to focus on self-praising her impossibly awful “no one asks if I am ok” interview, tells me she has no self awareness, and is emotionally stunted or/and a liar.

As I said earlier, if she was determined to revive the “am I okay” chat, she should have linked her loss to back to Africa in a profound way, to bring attention to Sub-Saharan Africa which had the highest infant mortality rate in the world in 2019.

Ah, but that would make her “me me me” tale less special, I suppose.

As many writers on DM said, her story sounds basic, calculated, strangely emotionless for its few overwrought novella lines,.., like a writing class exercise. If her FF writing buddies helped, I wouldn’t be surprised. It feels insincere, a paste up of elements.

My belief: She dropped this tale to snap back dramatically at the BRF in anger over FC, to vent her jealousy of Eugenie and Catherine, and to make the judge “believe” her reasoning for delays (“see I wrote this article and it was printed”) if questioned in January.

I will always view her as the bitter, envious, sly preteen who sent made-up letters to get free candy and claimed the class project letter as her own unique idea, and bullied others while fawning to teachers. An untrustworthy child, that became MM. I am sorry, but I imagine her preening in California today, awaiting gifts and flowers, pleased to have fooled yet more people, planning the roll out of speeches, books, and brave photos with the McPhee newborn. What Meghan wants, Meghan gets. And Meghan wants PR.
Crumpet said…
@WBBM,

I think there will be a memorial service. Perhaps at Westwood Cemetery in LA were many stars are buried, perhaps at the LA National Cemetery or better yet, Arlington National Cemetery. Never mind, that the poor babe is not qualified to be buried there--but We are special.

Besides, I am sure she has another black dress and black heels to merch, as she and Harry have perfected their looks of sorrow and woe and they place tiny flowers picked from the back garden on the grave. Think of all the lovely wreaths celebrities, politicians, the UN Ambassador, HM and all the royal family, aristocracy, and MPs will send. Think of the outpouring of grief as we leave notes and flowers in front of British embassies around the world.

The baby will have been a girl. With the name Diana.

Unbelievable drivel that continues to show that Narkles must control the narrative.

lizzie said…
@Hikari wrote:

"The sandingringham Christmas walk is not happening this year due to Covid, But Meg could still attempt to upstage the Cambridges’ Christmas photos With a pregnancy announcement."

I didn't realize we usually get Cambridge Christmas photos other than the Christmas cards we see from most branches of the family. But I guess if we do, she might do that. Or try to upstage the Queen's Christmas speech.

I know one baby doesn't replace another. But it will seem a bit weird to me for her to announce in December she is well along in another pregnancy only weeks after publishing this ghastly piece. But with M&H, we often aren't supposed to remember what they did yesterday today.
AnT said…
Oh my god, Crumpet, you are probably right....

And then she could claim the name, so if Catherine has one more child, a daughter, she (or even Eugenie) could not use it....?
Opus said…
As the late Hitchens used to say "That which is asserted without evidence may be equally summarily dismissed". Are we then really to believe that Harry who throughout the year has looked more like a hostage than a lover, was in fact someone going at it five times a night with the geriatric (in pregnancy terms) Markle who was (I don't think we were told) an unknown number of months pregnant, where at no time during their attempts at their summer publicity - the food hand outs and so on Markle did not once allude to the possibility of a happy event. I simply don't flaming believe it - given her behaviour with the pillow the first time. Did not her delirious husband at least leak the good news to his father, a Russian prankster or someone else in the RF or People magazine - or the reigning Monarch - she needs to know - yet I do not recall any RF behaviour even hinting at a birth. Is this once again intended to upstage Eugenie following the confiscation of Frog Cott and the arrival of its new occupants. Are we now to expect an unsigned easel message outside Buck House reading. "The Queen is saddened to learn that somewhere a child has miscarried".

Markle is the girl who cried she-wolf.
Crumpet said…
@AnT,

I forgot to add (what is Narkles dreaming of in her mind): Angelina Jolie will arrive, veil in hand to personally comfort the grieving St. Megan of Montecito. Elton John right now as we speak is writing a song, The Losses That We Share. Hadid is designing a memorial fountain park...the Archbishop of Canterbury is writing his homily for the memorial service and ALL of the royal family will be standing in line as the royale couple receive them with grace, tears and listening devices tucked into pockets.
lizzie said…
@AnT wrote:

"And then she could claim the name [Diana], so if Catherine has one more child, a daughter, she (or even Eugenie) could not use it....?"

W&K already used the name Diana for one of Charlotte's middle names. I doubt they would have done that had they thought they'd ever want to call a daughter Diana. And personally I can't imagine Eugenie would use it (for many reasons.)
@ Raspberry Raffle

"Woke BBC" Yes indeed

We are all intelligent enough here to see where it all is going. She violates her own privacy, gets applauded by the extreme woke minority and criticised by the majority or ignored by even bigger majority.

Enter follow up articles describing "ugly reaction" to her "tragic story" she "bravely told breaking up with convention". Ergo critics are racists and sexists and Megs is a poor victim valiantly fighting a tough battle for a better future for all women. The narrative is: She is our sister! She is our mouthpiece! She teaches us how to stand up for ourselves!

Goal achieved.
murphy said…
Saint Meghan strikes again; giving voice to those who didn't know they were voiceless, breaking taboos that (these days at least) are none existent.
I'm too cynical but there's a surprising lack of actual detail in the miscarriage story,
almost as if its been written by someone who read somewhere that a miscarriage starts with a sharp pain and ends up with you in hospital.

Hmmm. It ain't necessarily so. Depends how far along she was. Oh I'm a bad person for not warming to her in her hour of need. But then she doesn't need my sympathy, she manages to conjure up the adoration of the masses all by herself, inside her own head.

Most of the piece had nothing to do with miscarriage anyway and was just another excuse for her to push her, not very radical, agenda of kindness to all which, in turn, makes her seem like a repository of sweetness and light, shining beatifically on all she surveys. But we all know about the preachers who are secretly corrupt don't we.

More evidence if it were needed that this woman has some serious delusional disorder, perpetuated by the sheer luck of living in the age where PR is king and a flowery phrase substitutes for actual moral integrity.

Spike Milligan had 'I told you I was ill' inscribed on his gravestone. Maybe Meghan should have 'See, I told you I wasn't OK'.
Crumpet said…
@murphy

Classic last line! Brilliant!
On blogs like Knockoff Duchess, people don't think the miscarriage happened and that this is yet another PR ply by MM. That's the problem with being a habitual liar - nobody believes you even when you're telling the truth.

I recently discovered Christopher Jones on Quora - he is a member of Soho House and states that is where JH and MM met in the spring of 2016. JH was in Toronto in advance of the Invictus Games and when Mm learned he was at the bar at Soho, she asked her pal Markus Anderson to introduce them and they hooked up that evening. She was still living with Cory Vitiello at the time. The engagement interview where she said they met on a blind date in London in July 2016 and she had no idea who he was - all porkies. The truth, that she cheated on her live-in boyfriend when someone richer and more famous came along, does not paint her in a positive light, hence the lies - the first of many.
Miggy said…
And so it begins...

Charity bosses praise Meghan Markle for 'breaking down the stigma and shame' and 'taking us forward in leaps and bounds' after she revealed she had a miscarriage.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8987395/Charity-bosses-praise-Meghan-Markle-breaking-stigma-shame.html
AnT said…
@Lizzie and @Crumpet,

True enough, and I agreed I doubt Eugenie would use, but oh my goodness, tonight I almost wish she would.......”mum’s dear friend” ......or just go MM style and release PR saying “sources” say baby Diana Samantha Emerald Tiara Elizabeth Angelina has been safely born.

....then deny the story two days later after M’s head has exploded. Then say the Harkles provided the info on a secret call.


@Murphy, @Crumoet, your excellent posts...so darkly funny but, so true. “See I told you I wasn’t okay” is a keeper.
Crumpet said…
@AnT

That baby name is fantastic! Just as believable as Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor.
AnT said…
@Crumpet,

Lol, thanks, And did you mean Archie Harrison Country House Pasta Bowl Striped Tea Towel Mountbatten-Windsor?
Crumpet said…
@AnT

Yes, I believe I have seen that name on the ReBorn baby doll website. It is the doll that comes with a book called Duck! Rabbit!

Did you catch how in the NYTimes piece how she said she was changing Archie's diaper. She had to put that in due to all the criticism about the duck rabbit overflowing baby diaper.

She wants her, Are you okay to be a meme, like I can't breath. Perhaps it will, but not in the way she wants.
Hikari said…
@AnT

“Baby Diana Samantha Emerald Tiara Elizabeth Angelina”

You get a whole box of donuts for that one!

Euge needs to be sure to mention That her grandmother was so delighted with the news and her choice of name, Her Majesty has commissioned A miniature Grevelle tiara to match Euge’s wedding Tiara...One which Elizabeth has decided to gift permanently to Eugenie and thanks for her service to the Crown. Her Majesty walked over from Windsor Castle herself to exercise the dorgis and admire all the welcoming touches E. has added to really make FC their home, Including re-doing the industrial gray but otherwise vacant nursery interest for shades of emerald green and mint. Baby Emmy as she will be called by the family looks forward to meeting her Cambridge cousins just as soon as Covid allows.

@ Miggy

Astonishing. A CHARITY thinks that grieving privately over a miscarriage is a "stigma and a shame".

So, according to them, if you don't yell loudly about your private pain you are "ashamed" and have a "stigma"? Don't know what real charity could say something like this.

What a horrible disservice to women.
Elsbeth1847 said…
I will say that her article in the DM is now down the page on the internet. Don't know how much they paid for that (or what it took to "convince someone it is NYT level worthy to run") but, like covid, reality seems to have a HaHa (karma?) moment with them when they try to project some special moment/feeling that we are all supposed to respond to her/them as.
Opus said…
I once had a girlfriend who - long short story - fabricated an attack on herself and as I now assume with the purpose of bouncing me in to matrimony, She didn't but at the time I believed her story and indeed she provided a narrative and some supposed evidence to support her penny-dreadful tale. Over the years the scales fell from my eyes for the truth of the events was staring me in the face. What she had told me and the police was a pack of lies. One of the things that was off and it was something that puzzled the police was her complete lack of any even short term depression or despair. After twenty four hours of fakery which she obviously deemed long enough she resumed her usual sunny disposition.

Is not Markle like this; she has lost her baby yet whether handing out food or chatting to Gloria Steinem or indulging in Zoom calls, there is not the slightest hint that she has anything on her mind other than her own self and its promotion. What then of Harry who until that point had cornered the Harkle market in self pity. Did he in the broom closet videos or in the cemetery or on the zoom calls show the slightest suggestion that he had lost a child or indeed that his wife was expecting. If he did I failed to observe it. Harry is now roped in to play along with his wife's fiction. Watch out for his verbal lapses that contradict his wife's article. Watch for a deliriously happy Markle.

The RF will I presume (now that Phil is no longer at the tiller) bottle it.
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Enbrethiliel said…
@HIkari
Do we think she is going to attempt to register “are you OK?” As her copyrighted intellectual property?

She has probably already tried . . . I wonder what her plan is to get a cut after people start putting "Are you OK?" on t-shirts, phone cases, mugs, and other merch. Perhaps she'd be happy to get credit for popularizing what is clearly one of the most obscure phrases we've ever heard, as long as it translates to media attention . . . but we all know she needs money, needs a lot of it, and needs it fast.
jessica said…
I think it’s quite possible she was pregnant, but did not know she had been until she went to the doctor and was told about it.

Hence, no early reveal. That or it was so early she didn’t need a hospital, and it was a let down that their planned reveal was kaput.

Harry never once looked ecstatic at any time this year over anything and we’ve seen him a lot.

Just as everything it’s either a flat out lie for good press or a nonevent she is blowing out of proportion.
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Blogger Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
Mel asked: Think she's been reading up on Chrissy Tiegen much?

`An article about Chrissy where the woman talks about embracing the first child while being sad about the miscarriage.'

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MM's tone seems to imply that nobody has ever suffered like her - she has the monopoly.

My mind keeps going to the poignant cases I've known where a woman has been expecting twins but whereas one is fine and healthy, the other is still born, dies very shortly after or is disabled. The mother may be in a conflicted state about what has happened - whether she is joyful for the one that survived or mourns the other one is unresolved.

It's happened several times in my family - and it's easy to forget that the survivor has been bereaved as well. Each child had been part of the environment of the other before birth and the survivor may be profoundly affected by a barely-explained sense of loss throughout their life.

I suppose we should know by now not to expect better of the Deceitful Duchess.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Christine
Agree with you AnT on your points about the Chrissy Teigen bandwagon, death of Lupo, Eugenie heavily pregnant living in Frogmore, the court and dealing with Charles. It ticked all of those boxes.

Not to mention the BLM box, the coronavirus box, and the election box.

@Mel
Notice how she refers to Prince Harry as just my husband, like he's just some random dude. On par with the unknown woman crying on the street. Not worthy of a name. Just some guy. My husband. You wouldn't know him, he goes to another school. In Canada.

Actually, Prince Harry's name is used once! It's so out of character for the author that I suspect it was an edit by the hapless NYT intern who had to encode the copy.
xxxxx said…
Megs Go get your fake loss thrills
In the Monticito mudslide hills
While we all await.......

Hostage Harry's ultimate spills
'arry can you give us a blink or two?
Crumpet said…
@Enbreth

Luckily for us, there is a song by the Dum Dum Girls, Are You Okay?

And there already is a mental health t shirt (hmmm, maybe there is where she got the idea from), Are You Okay? and then the t-shirts with R U O K. Taylor Swift already did a You Okay meme thing and if you live in Baltimore, MD, there is the phrase, You okay, hun?

I hope these previous uses of this now too oft repeated phrase shut her down from trying to trademark this phrase.
Girl with a Hat said…
I once had a schoolmate who pretended she had a black eye. She used eyeshadow and it was so obvious.

There is a trait in these attention seeking people to make people feel sorry for them, and I think my schoolmate was one of these. They think they can get away with all kinds of bad behaviour if people feel sorry for them.

The ironic thing is that people who really had a hard life don't want people feeling sorry for them.
Miggy said…
@Fairy said.

Astonishing. A CHARITY thinks that grieving privately over a miscarriage is a "stigma and a shame".

So, according to them, if you don't yell loudly about your private pain you are "ashamed" and have a "stigma"? Don't know what real charity could say something like this.

What a horrible disservice to women.


Fairy, I'm appalled.
How can they spout this rubbish?
Meghan, by revealing that she had a miscarriage is 'taking us forward in leaps and bounds'!?
How?
By writing a cringe-worthy opinion piece?
Nothing will change.
Women will decide for themselves whether or not they want to share their grief and NOTHING Madame Markle can say or do will change that.
Maneki Neko said…
All MM has succeeded in doing is to make a mockery of miscarriage.
Some Nutties have said they think she reads this blog - I hope she does and realises how ridiculous she is and that she can't fool all of the people all of the time.
Enbrethiliel said…
@JHanoi
The only difference is MM is trying to tie it together with wokeness points to show she is enlightened instead of narcissistic. from what we saw she didnt do that in dads letter.

An lost opportunity she is probably still upset about.
Enbrethiliel said…
It's also possible that Meghan wanted to try another Moon Bump pregnancy and was shot down from producing a fraudulent eighth in line. This article lets her get revenge for that, as well as for Princess Eugenie getting Frogmore Cottage, for the Cambridges actually having a good relationship with their pets, and for the media being oh, so horrible to her.
SwampWoman said…
Blogger Miggy said...
And so it begins...

Charity bosses praise Meghan Markle for 'breaking down the stigma and shame' and 'taking us forward in leaps and bounds' after she revealed she had a miscarriage.


What sort of rock have these people been living under? It wasn't a stigma and shame 40 years ago; it certainly isn't now. Of course, 40 years ago, we couldn't take selfies of ourselves attempting to look sad while sharing it far and wide whether anybody wanted it or not.
Elsbeth1847 said…
On a slightly different note (about how crazy the whole world is heading in terms of the right way to do things or else or something implied):

headline on Real Simple: Great Gifts & Meaningful Ways to give them

I was under the impression the only bad way to give a gift is have it not be from the heart - meaning insincere.

Apparently one has to now have joyful ways of giving. Sadly, I think that this is just adding more guilt to an already burdened world of people thinking some how they are not doing enough = guilt.
Crumpet said…
Next PR event from the Duo?

So my guess is the Dumbarton Duo's next media/charity secret visit will be to a ICU or other facility with mothers and toddlers. St. Meghan will bear gifts of more Archie cast offs, and will insist on having a good ole chat with the moms on the floor, while the smart ones run as fast as they can from the wicked one with big feet.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Crumpet

Will the facility have to pay to fly them there by private jet, in exchange for ten dollars a month and some royal baby hand-me-downs?

@Sandie
By the way, from what Edward and Mike have shared (both Sophie and Zara have had miscarriages), it seems that men also need an option of a support service if they don't have family and friends to talk to!

I think the miscarriage is another Harkle fraud, but IF it weren't this might actually be a great new direction for Prince Harry. It extends very naturally from the mental health focus of Heads Up. Plus, now that no one takes his veteran causes seriously any longer, he could use some rebranding as a concerned and sensitive father who wants to support other men in the same boat.

(Prince William did a bit of this for a while, too. I confess that while I respected his commitment to help what I saw as Catherine's big project, it never really seemed organic or even "on brand" to me. Now that he's focusing on conservation, dialing down the vulnerability, and amping up the Prince Philip vibes, he is looking so much more kingly.)
Enbrethiliel said…
@Crumpet
I hope these previous uses of this now too oft repeated phrase shut her down from trying to trademark this phrase.

Going through your list, another one that came to mind for me was Michael Jackson's Smooth Criminal, with its famous "Annie, are you okay?" hook. Swap in Meghan's name and the title becomes perfect!
Haven't read all the posts so sorry if someone has thought of this.

Seems to me if one truly miscarried in July, a competent physician would council against another pregnancy for six months at least (time for body to heal, reset, etc). So if that was her excuse to the Judge.....hmmmm. That leaves August, September, October. At the very most two months along? One month after miscarry????

I don't want to doubt anyone about this subject I just find the timeline suspicious. I'm really sorry I feel that way but that''s what its come to.
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SwampWoman said…
@Puds said:
A very happy Thanksgivings to our American cousins. Eat well sing and be merry.

@ Swamp Woman, I have been meaning to suggest these tracks per a thread a few days back, they are fun versions on U Tube of the classic westerns.

The Good the Bad and the Ugly. Perforned by The Danish National Orchestra
(Makes me laugh when the Whaw Whaws start) performed by such a nonchalant Opera Singer. I would be in a heap of giggles.)

For a Few Dollars More preformed by The Danish National Orchestra

Once Upon a Time in the West performed by The Danish National Orchestra.

And for the haunting musical time piece try
Sergio leone Greatest Western musical of all time 2018 remastered. Ennio Morricone.

If you need to keep the the children entertainment for 12 minutes there is a brilliant video of a jazz performance by Poalo Conte and his band (in Italian but that doesn't affect the enjoyment if you like jazz but don't speak Italian), get the children to try to keep the rhythm, be warned it is wake up music and the musicians are amazing to watch. How the quitarist keep the rhythm is incredible, my little nephew loved it. It has a hint of the spaghetti westerns.
On U Tube
Poalo Conte Daivolo Rossi live tour 2013


Thanks for thinking of me, Puds! You have indeed nailed my musical enjoyment because I LOVE the Danish National Orchestra performing Ennio Morricone's music written for the spaghetti westerns. I will definitely look up Poalo Conte. The dishwasher is washing the first of three loads; the grocery store closes until Friday in about 30 minutes, and I find that I have forgotten olives, so I need to run.
Mimi said…
How far along was she when she began her coat flicking and bump clutching with Archie? How far along was she when she lost this baby?
Mimi said…
How far along was she when she flew to Australia. She seemed to have had a very rapid conception, a most very healthy pregnancy and a stunningly fast, safe delivery in a matter of hours. How tragic that this baby never made it to the bump clutching, coat flicking stage.
Mimi said…
..and overdue but otherwise wonderful delivery,
AnT said…
@Hikari and @Crumpet,

thank you for making me laugh! I have a rubbish sinus headache tonight, my eternal cross to bear, can’t sleep well, so returned here with tea and honey to read some more chat and got a whole box of donuts and a good giggle. Thank you! Oh Hikari, your scenario would be my absolute dream comeuppance for Madame Me. .......Grandma Queen Herself in the royal outdoors shawl marching over to Frogmore with the good tidings of her gifts for baby, and Jack greets her at the door with grog and a hearty hug. “Liz Babe! Just in time for a curry!”

@Crumpet — you genius you, I totally forgot about the Duck Rabbit full diaper! You are right, she totally included that to combat her videoed. fail as a Young Mother! Which is another reason I call this story fake. (That, and the bit about how she made breakfast and fed dogs etc before bothering to tend to baby Archie? That struck me tonight as a Wait, whaaaaaat? You know?)

Okay all.....Redbubble and others online are already offering us several models of Are You Okay? t-shirts. Shall we club together and send one to Charles? They have one I love with U Ok Hun? across the front. Meghan, good luck getting your cut, hun.

@Sally 1975
....everything you said, yes, yes, so well put. If this was real, I too would send her sympathy! but I’ve smelled porkie #537 since I heard it.
AnT said…
@Mimi,

I believe she was Zero along when she began flicking coats, but the surrogate was on Month Four out of the Eleven Months. The Darren Doll Company, on the other hand, was on Pre-Order Month Two.

Someone, feel free to correct my math.
Mimi said…
why did they risk having a baby during such a horrendous time...covid, etc.
YankeeDoodle said…
Did the surrogate have a miscarriage?

Due to today’s technology, and over the counter baby tests, women can find out if they are pregnant within a week or two of conception. Pre 1980s, that was not the case. My doctor told me that almost every woman will miscarry; it used to be called a heavy period. Problems occur when a woman miscarries multiple times, without a live birth.

I had very early miscarriages, which I dismissed. Then I miscarried an almost 4 month fetus. Very different. What week was when the HAMS surrogate miscarry?
AnT said…
@Enbrethiliel...

Smooth Criminal! Brilliant. Perhaps for the soundtrack for the MM Netflix screenplay Hikari can write about The American Duchess. Hikari will get it finished and sold before MM has fished her wig out of the wine cellar and signed her own contracts,
Leela said…
Something no one has mentioned so far in my reading (but I am not completely up to date) is the dinner double date with Katharine McPhee and Husband.

I had a lost pregnancy, and for months afterward, it seemed that I was a magnet for strollers and glowingly pregnant mothers. So much so that I avoided many places like malls so I wouldn’t get triggered into a meltdown in public. I certainly wouldn’t have wanted to have a date with a glowing newly announced pregnant mom.

Have I got the timing correct, that the dinner with McPhee was in July or August, or even September?
Hikari said…
AnT

Sorry about your head; glad my comedy stylings could help a little.

I forgot to mention earlier that Baby Emmy is Already sporting tufts of red hair which are going to look so cute when she models her mini gravelle tiara from Great Granny. Also Ed Sheeran has just zoomed in to tell the new parents that he’s working on a very special collection of original lullabies for the wee princess. Ed is himself a new father, and looks forward to future play dates.

George Clooney sent a case of tequila and a case of 100-year-old Scotch so Jack can wet the baby’s head. Amal sent a lovely bespoke music box by Faberge and an emerald crusted Christmas tree ornament that says Baby’s first Christmas.
lizzie said…
@Leela,

The celebratory dinner date re: Katherine McPhee's baby wasn't until early Oct.
Leela said…
Thanks, Lizzie. I think that by three months after the event, my hormones were settled and I wasn’t so sensitive. But I still doubt that M was pregnant at all, or had a miscarriage. For so many of the astute reasons given by others here.

In looking for silver linings to the cloud of so many people falling for her story, might we expect that a little love and attention will calm her somehow, and she won’t be in such a pr frenzy for a little while?
KCM1212 said…
@Puds and @Swampwoman

The music is great!!! I love Ennio Morricone and the arrangements were so fun! So now I have two new favorites,: the British Ukulele Band and The Danish National Symphony.

I have long loved Paolo Conte's Via Con Me, but who knew he had the best cast of characters in his band! I particularly loved the violin player...he of the magnificent profile.

and @Sally1975

Me too. Early menopause. A terrible surprise. And one I still grieve.

Yet oddly, I did not feel the need to write an essay for the NYT.

I think the deeper the pain, the more one holds it close.

I believe NOTHING the Sussexes say. It is all sleight of hand, slogans, and improvisation.

Thank you all. I am grateful for the insights, the wit, and the poetry. 😃
Enbrethiliel said…
Scorpiotwentythree just asked: "Has she called her father since 2018 and asked him 'Are you OK?'"

Fair question.
SwampWoman said…
I believe Los Angeles was still under a COVID shutdown in July, was it not? If so, I don't *think* that Harry would have been allowed into her room.

Back from the right-before-closing grocery store run! I have to say that putting on a mask before going into a store at night makes me feel like asking them to put all the cash receipts for the day into my grocery bag, and don't call the police for 15 minutes.

Crumpet said…
In the NYTimes spiel, Narkles calls herself a feminist, advocate and mother. She is definitely not a feminist. Highly unlikely she is a mother of any kind and only an advocate for herself. I am surprised the NYT did not use a different font, just for her piece, perhaps Curlz Mt, Edwardian Script or Blackadder--you know to make it more princess like.

She is certainly flying close to the sun, as the Duchess of Cambridge has taken on as patron of organizations re to children and families (along with photography).

She certainly has it out for Camilla, as this was a big day for one of her initiatives.

When will the cold white walls close in on Madam?
Mimi said…
Depending on how far along she was in the pregnancy and miscarried would determine if she needed to be hospitalized. And if she was hospitalized (which we will NEVER know) wouldn’t hairy be required to wear mask AND gloves? So how could she tell his hands/knuckles were CLAMMY?
Grisham said…
Mimi, no to the gloves. Not required or recommended.
Mimi said…
Thank you Tatty. I was misinformed!
Grisham said…
for instance: UCLA policies for visitors from June: https://www.uclahealth.org/covid-19-visitor-restrictions

Gloves aren’t recommend because they are unsanitary and would have to be continually changed, whereas soap is very effective at killing Covid, which has a very thin layer of fat around it that is easily destroyed.

Also, in the case of loss, hospitals would let the spouse in.
Mel said…
Her little story sounds like bits and pieces of other people's miscarriage stories which she cobbled together to make into her own story.

Tin hat time...
What if some of the story is true, just not when she said it was.
Maybe she miscarried some other time, a while ago. Maybe sometime after she'd told Harry she was pregnant in order to get the ring, but too late to cancel the wedding.

She was looking far too jovial this summer. And July was when she had a lot of facial/dental work done.
SwampWoman said…
tatty said...
for instance: UCLA policies for visitors from June: https://www.uclahealth.org/covid-19-visitor-restrictions

Gloves aren’t recommend because they are unsanitary and would have to be continually changed, whereas soap is very effective at killing Covid, which has a very thin layer of fat around it that is easily destroyed.

Also, in the case of loss, hospitals would let the spouse in.


Ah, I was under the impression that the governor re-tightened the policies in July, my mistake.
Crumpet said…
@Mel

Interesting point. She has cobbled together a load of grief for all of us to endure.

Archie is a toddler. He can walk, he can run. If she was "enduring" a miscarriage, she did not need to hold on to him and hum her lullaby. Simply, put him down and let him go play in the plastic toy car or play with one of the well fed dogs.
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Duncan said…
tatty said...
Also, in the case of loss, hospitals would let the spouse in
.............
I really doubt that.
People have been kept from going into hospitals to visit loved ones dying from non-covid ailments or from staying/visiting during/after serious life-threatening surgeries.
You can't google the answer - every state is different and even individual hospitals differ depending on what type they are.
Crumpet said…
@Sally1975 and @tatty,

If you are a Duchess, very early along in pregnancy, you don't go to the ER in LA which even in COVID times is probably full of people who are crazy addicts, accident victims, the elderly having a heart attack or the police are brining in prisoners/suspects for evaluation (I doubt the Duchess has been to an ER recently). ERs are very interesting places, even in small towns.

If you are a Duchess, one has a high priced personal OBGYN on speed dial. They will come to you or meet you in an high priced clinic.
Grisham said…
My husband is a physician in a clinic, a traditional hospital and a surgical hospital. My sibling is a floor nurse in a hospital in California.

Assuming the story is true, I assumed she was having a d+c which means she was at least 9+ weeks pregnant or actually having to go through a delivery if she was farther along.

SwampWoman said…
Crumpet said: She certainly has it out for Camilla, as this was a big day for one of her initiatives.


Heh. I expect Camilla can see right through her. She probably thinks that if it weren't for Camilla, she could crook her little finger at Charles and he would come running. (I doubt that.)
Grisham said…
I read her essay. She never mentioned or said she went to a ER.
Crumpet said…
@tatty,

Thanks! Stand correct, then.
Grisham said…
@crumpet, I agree she could have been at a speciality hospital (where, as I mentioned, I assumed she was having a D+C).
@Flore said…
My heart goes out to every woman who has suffered any kind of prenatal loss and grief. Whether one chooses to grief privately or with others is a very personal matter. To each their own. However, I hate to break it to her and her sycophants, but there’s no stigma in miscarrying. No need to drum up this particular narrative.

I believe she had a miscarriage. I feel a little bit ashamed to say that my first thought was: WHY is she telling the whole world now and in this way?? Because that’s what the self proclaimed feminist has done to us women: we simply cannot believe that she has no ulterior motives!

Is she pregnant again but has to make a dramatic prequel to the big announcement ?

Are they going to adopt or use a surrogate and they felt they had to justify their choice?

Or is she grasping at anything that will keep her in the news?

Her writing style is so dramatic and flowery. Did we really need to know about her kissing her husband’s knuckles while lying in her hospital bed?

Every thing she does shows how emotionally stunted and self centered she is. What was this article about anyway?

Its title says it all: I have suffered a loss so I am relevant to today’s tragic world. I live in a mansion but I feel pain too. Don’t forget about ME ME ME. She has zero self awareness. It’s mind blowing. Did she have the nerve to mention yet again that horrendous interview in South Africa? She still hasn’t understood how insensitive and inappropriate that was??
Ranting about Covid and Floyd’s tragic death and her “Are you ok?” trademark all at the same time. It’s all about her, isn’t it?
Billions of people have been dealing with various kinds of loss this year but don’t you dare forget about ME!

Shame on the NYT for publishing such a nauseating self serving piece of crap and shame on her and on her dear husband for stopping at absolutely nothing to promote themselves.
Grisham said…
@Flore yes, I did wonder myself if she is pregnant again and before she announces this pregnancy, she wanted to discuss the miscarriage.

Also, didn’t Catherine recently work with the charity Tommy’s? That seems to be in the back of my head, and Tommy’s made a point to comment positively on MM’s essay.

Mimi said…
Crumpet, thank you for reminding me what an e.r. is like. You forgot to mention people DYING in the waiting room because they lacked proper insurance. I imagine a Duchess.....a PRINCESS of the U?K? would have the top doctors on speed dial. Especially as she would be giving birth to another Royal child!

Being in an e.r. is a horrific experience. I can’t see THEE Duchess of Sussex/ PRINCESS of the U.K. would want to be thrown in with a bunch of contagious people
Grisham said…
She could have been at a stand alone women’s and children’s hospital. One of those would have had less of a burden of covid, generally speaking. I agree she likely got the best care and possibly special treatment because of Harry’s status.
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Magatha Mistie said…

Thanks @Hikari
We could have fun with the “Nuttie Book”
title 😉

@AnT
Cheers, Rockspeare - Bawdy Bard 😊
Mimi said…
It is time for bed....tomorrow is Thanksgiving here in the U.S. Things are bad all over ( my city’s covid cases doubled in one week!) the future seems so bleak and uncertain. It is terrifying to hear things are getting worse rather than better. BUT!!!!!!! I hope we can all find something to be thankful for tomorrow.

I won’t say “HAPPY THANKSGIVING” because I don’t feel very “happy” . I will say, as difficult as things are, find something to be grateful for and enjoy the chance to enjoy another Thanksgiving Day.

Did I make any sense?

Goodnight all.
Grisham said…
“Happy” Thanksgiving, Mimi and to all the US nutties.
Magatha Mistie said…

If she loses her case will she claim
a Miscarriage of Justice...
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Grisham said…
I agree, sally, but who is the B list singer?
Duncan said…
@Magatha
LOL!
BYW I loved the Baby Jane witticism.
It looked like it could be an ongoing one!

Your new avi is perfectly gruesome!
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Magatha Mistie said…

B + list singer may be referring to the
fact she can sing slightly better
than she can act.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Sally
I was referring to megs as the singer, argh!!

HappyDays said…
Torontopaper1, who hasn’t posted for a few months, apparently doesn’t believe Meghan either.

New post:
torontopaper1 tweet:
Darling, how pathetic! A miscarriage? Physically pregnant? You? And "your firstborn"? Where is he? With his legal mother who gave birth to him! Safe and living his best life!
HappyDays said…
I hope the royal family has someone who can determine if Meghan was truly pregnant or not. Meghan just can be trusted.
Magatha Mistie said…

Thumper and Hambi

From ragland to riches
She pulled off her britches
Never the twain shall meet
All her hard work
Paid off with that jerk
He even fell for her feet

Angela Lansbury said…
Tatty is right about visitors during Cov19 for miscarriage hospitalizations. My niece miscarry in May n husband wasnot allowed. She trying again n saw now her hospital lets husbands be with wife. Many women complained and rules became changed in summer. Niece lives little outside L.A.
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

I’d love to be as “mental” as you.
Erudite, sagacious, and very humorous.
Hail Hildisvini

KC said…
tatty said:

"As an aside, my surgery is scheduled for 3 weeks from now."

In time for Christmas! Which you must spend healing from surgery, alas.

Still, good that you have a date set. Hoping all will go well and you sail serenely as possible through the whole thing.
When awful things have happened to me, I have been very careful who I tell. Somehow the sympathy (or, worse, a damning remark) can make things much worse - every time someone asks, it amplifies the grief and I don't want to be reminded.

We each have the right to decide who we tell and who we don't. Even if someone I knew fairly well, but not well enough to confide in, approached and I've been feeling like sh*t, I've braced myself and thought `Right- one, two three - SMILE!!!' followed by `Fine thank you, how are you?'

If you're in search of something that is stigmatised, try being a woman without children, even it is by circumstance not choice.
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Duncan said…
@Magatha
Yes didn't we hear recently that Megalo sings!
If so she would just have to be a better singer than an actress.
I think she should take up skiing or surfing.
She wouldn't need any equipment.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Sally
Or snorkelling, wouldn’t need any equipment...
Magatha Mistie said…

What was the lullaby
The Ballad of the Absent Mere?
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Angela Lansbury said…
I feel shameful to distrust Markle stiry abt miscarriage but it feels like fibs. Why is baby not first one she check in morning? Why brrakfast and vitamins first? If she feel like falling then why not keep baby in crib? Where is nanny? Very strange story.

Since 2019, many celebrities revealing miscarriage. Not just Chrissy Teagan. Feels like trend for while:

Jamie Oliver Wife-
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/07/16/jamie-oliver-wife-jools-reveals-she-had-miscarriage-amid-coronavirus/5449473002/

James Vanderbeek Wife-
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/06/21/james-van-der-beek-reveals-wife-kimberly-suffered-5th-miscarriage/3233025001/

Alec Baldwin wife-
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/04/06/alec-hilaria-baldwin-expecting-fifth-baby-months-after-miscarriage/2957942001/

Christina Perri-
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/07/11/christina-perri-pregnant-months-after-sharing-miscarriage-news/5420971002/

Dylan Dreyer-
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/allthemoms/2019/04/22/today-show-dylan-dreyer-opens-up-secondary-infertility-miscarriage-ivf/3537165002/

Kate Snow-
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/allthemoms/2019/04/05/nbc-kate-snow-miscarriage-essay-response-hilaria-baldwin/3374089002/
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Hikari said…
Re. B+ list singer

This was a confusing blind, but I’m pretty certain the person they mean is Cristina Perri, who just released a statement hours before the Duchess of Dumbarse’s column appeared That her two weeks sojourn under observation in the hospital to try and save her crisis pregnancy has ended when her daughter was Prematurely stillborn. Further exacerbating the heartbreak, this was the second pregnancy loss this year for CP, who miscarried another baby at 11 weeks early in January.

I actually believe that there may have been enough time between the two for the NYT to run Markle’s story after Perri’s statement, though with possible time differences, I cannot confirm this. It seems awfully coincidental however that there should be two search big celebrity pregnancy loss announcements within literal hours of each other. I wonder if Meg has called Christina Perri and asked her if she’s OK.
Angela Lansbury said…
This is better link how many celebs revealed miscarriages. Mostly happening since 2019...

https://people.com/parents/celebrities-who-had-miscarriages/
Apologies for the repeated double posts - I'll swear I only press `publish' once. I think the electronics are playing silly blighters. I delete the duplicates
Duncan said…
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I only would like to ask her if Thomas Markle is ok
Magatha - thanks, you're the tonic I needed. Life beyond Nutty isn't much fun at the moment but enough of that!
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Maneki Neko said…
Happy Thanksgiving to all our American Nutties!
Blogger Maneki Neko said...
Happy Thanksgiving to all our American Nutties!


Hear! Hear!
Miggy said…
Happy Thanksgiving to those across the pond from me too.

Enjoy yourselves the best you can. :)




Maneki Neko said…
I've just had a peep at the DM comments (moderated) on their article abt charity bosses praising MM: most people ask 'What stigma and shame?' Looks like MM didn't think this one carefully.

If she's now that deluded and bonkers, what next? Is she heading for a meltdown? This is a new level of crazy, even if the miscarriage happened. What about Harry in all this? I wonder if she deceived him or if he was in on the whole thing (assuming it's a lie)? We know her tears fell on his knuckles (!). We know that bHarry's "heart break as he tried to hold the shattered pieces of mine."' (shades of letter to daddy) but I wonder where he fits in/how he's feeling. The SAS need to send a team to rescue him.
Magatha Mistie said…

Tears of a Clown

The tears he let fall
On his knuckles, with gall
Broke her heart into a million pieces
Who cares what she says
It comes down to who pays
A pile of stinking bull faeces




Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki

She disgusts me.
Whether she suffered a miscarriage?
I did, twice.
That was 25 years ago.
No stigma, what is she blathering on about?



FrenchieLiv said…
Though many of us predicted that would happen, I believe she had a miscarriage.
I think the article was written for a while and that was her Trump card because she knew things would not get better.

This is a smart move from the Sussexes :
- She is back in the news in the UK and above all (her target audience) in the US: CNN, BCC, ABC…
- She is praised by A+ list and will have again A+ list «friends» (hello Chrissy Teigen, Oprah, Gov Gavin Newsom…) with all the PR stuff she can use (eg. share a sweet dinner with Chrissy and John)
- She will enjoy a grace period: don’t be too hard on her / pity party II
- That announcement prepares the announcement of baby Sussex 2: she will call him/her a rainbow baby, her miracle baby, a Christmas baby …
- She has a new trendy issue to show off with BLM, environment, mental health, kindness…
- That helps for her Court Case + for her Netflix Show (OMG that Netflix show eurk can’t even imagine what they have already recorded)
- Year review: they won’t be stripped of their titles.

New PR Strategy: the problem with Meghan is her fan base. I don’t think she has a lot of support within teenagers. Teenagers are more interested in Megan Thee Stallion than in Meghan Markle. I highly doubt teenagers can understand and relate to miscarriage.
As for women, I believe a study would prove that MM isn’t liked by women in their 40’s-60’s. With her essay, she tries to reverse the trend and to grab some support from more mature women.

Questions:
- How long will last this honeymoon or how soon they manage to spoil everything (again)?
- When will they announce Baby Sussex 2 (it must be a strategic date when they are in a deadlock and need positive headlines)?

Happy Thanksgiving to our US friends.
Magatha Mistie said…

Happy Thanksgiving to our American Nutties
Thankful and Blessed
Enjoy X
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

You play a big part in my reasoning
for staying on this site.
Keep Buggering On!

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 I started thinking about how time passes when reading some of the articles about the birthday.  It was interesting to think about it from the different points of view.  Besides, it kind of fits as a follow up the last post (the whole saga of can the two brothers reunite). So there is the requisite article about how he will be getting all kinds of money willed to him from his great-grandmother.  There were stories about Princess Anne as trustee (and not allowing earliest access to it all).  Whether or not any or all of this is true (there was money for him and/or other kids) has been debated with claims she actually died owing money with the Queen paying the debts to avoid scandal.  Don't know but I seem to remember that royal estates are shrouded from the public so we may not (ever) know. However, strange things like assisting in a book after repeated denials have popped up in legal papers so nothing is ever really predicable.   We are also seein...

The Opening Act of New Adventures in Retail

 I keep thinking things will settle down to the lazy days of spring where the weather is gorgeous and there is a certain sense of peacefulness.  New flowers are coming out. increasing daylight so people can be outside/play and thinking gardening thoughts.  And life is quiet.  Calm. And then something happens like a comet shooting across the sky.  (Out of nowhere it arrives and then leaves almost as quickly.)   An update to a law suit.  Video of the website is released (but doesn't actually promote any specific product which can be purchased from the website).  A delay and then jam is given out (but to whom and possible more importantly - who did not make the list?).  Trophies almost fall (oops).  Information slips out like when the official date of beginning USA residency.  (now, isn't that interesting?) With them, it's always something in play or simmering just below the surface.  The diversity of the endeavors is really ...