Until another topic is started, carry on.
Not much appears to be going on. Living Legends came and went without fanfare ... what's the next event? Super Bowl - Sunday February 11th? Oscar's - March 10th? In the mean time, some things are still rolling along in various starts and stops like Samantha's law suit. Or tax season is about to begin in the US. The IRS just never goes away. Nor do bills (utility, cable, mortgage, food, cars, security, landscape people, cleaning people, koi person and so on). There's always another one. Elsewhere others just continue to glide forward without a real hint of being disrupted by some news out of California. That would be the new King and Queen or the Prince/Princess of Wales. Yes there are health risks which seemed to come out of nowhere. But. The difference is that these people are calmly living their lives with minimal drama.
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Your wish has been granted - see my last post! This is unbelievable!
Yes she has seen all of this - she has made responses that are quoted within the articles...all the usual denials!
@Snarky - those wigs must be flying at a furious rate!
I'll be back with #3 in a few...
Where Grip yelled at a member of Kate's staff and Kate had to pull her aside and tell Grip that she (Kate) disciplines her staff, not Grip.
The "egg in this" wedding meal sampling with the Queen where Grip laid into the chef that "there was egg in this I can taste it " and there wasn't. The Queen had to tell Grip "we don't talk to the staff that way" or something like that.
The little things that got out support the bigger accusations now.
Run Oprah Run! (Because you really look stupid now)
Is it too much to hope for at least one thing released per day leading up to Sunday?
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AND I am dancing because it is all pouring out and ruining the Oprah fest! and because the Sussex PR team screwed up again: Their rebuttal included a timeline! Bwah ha ha! A timeline! How do you backtrack tomorrow or Friday and say something never happened, while also spitting out to the world: “....that distorted several years old accusations”.
So, accusations existed, then, hmm? Your witness, counselor. Boom, she is finished. At last. People she has attacked are going to come out of the woodwork now even before the program. The door is open.
Off to reread carefully and then read the second article! 💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻✨
Will your press pick up on this latest info and print?
If it turns out to be Charles who turned on the tap, I stand corrected in advance.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9318273/Did-Meghan-Markle-style-inspiration-Wallis-Simpson-Oprah-interview.html
Never understood why hazbeen got involved with Jon Bon Jovi - he was brilliant back in the day but not really relevant today
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/meghan-earrings-were-gift-from-saudi-prince-accused-of-jamal-khashoggi-murder-6q8mkpkqj
PART 1 - From The Times: The Earrings
Meghan’s earrings were gift from Saudi prince accused of murder
The duchess was seen wearing the earrings given by Mohammed bin Salman at two events in 2018
Valentine Low
Wednesday March 03 2021, 12.00am GMT, The Times
The Duchess of Sussex wore earrings given to her by Mohammed bin Salman, Saudi Arabia’s crown prince, to a state dinner while he was being condemned over the murder of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
She told staff that the Chopard earrings she wore in Fiji had been borrowed, rather than stating that they had been a wedding gift from the prince, a source said.
The CIA said in a report released by President Biden last Friday that the prince, known as MBS, approved the 2018 murder of Khashoggi at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.
Kensington Palace press office told the media that the chandelier earrings, which Meghan wore on the first night of their visit to Fiji, three weeks after Khashoggi’s murder, were borrowed. The press office did not say from whom they had been borrowed. The Times has been told that an aide later claimed that the duke and duchess said they had been borrowed from the jeweller Chopard.
Lawyers for the duchess said that although she may have said they were borrowed, every relevant member of staff knew who they were from. She was unaware of the rumours at the time that the crown prince was involved in the murder, they said.
A source said that staff in London responsible for registering details of all royal gifts recognised them later. They were confirmed as a wedding gift from MBS, who had lunch with the Queen during a three-day visit to London in March 2018, two months before Harry and Meghan’s wedding. The duchess wore them again to the Prince of Wales’s 70th birthday party at Buckingham Palace on November 14 that year.
There is no suggestion that the crown prince gave them to the duchess in person, or indeed has even met her.
Mohammed bin Salman said that he bears responsibility for Khashoggi’s murder “because it happened under my watch” but denied having any prior knowledge of the plot
As a gift from a foreign head of state, the earrings are officially considered crown property. They were available for the duchess to use, but she would not have been able to sell them. Her lawyers said that if she had said they were borrowed, this was what she meant. They denied she had stated they were borrowed from a jeweller.
Before the Sussexes’ tour the Khashoggi murder was an international news story. As early as October 12, four days before the start of the tour, The Times reported that world leaders had rounded on the crown prince as suspicions grew that he had ordered the killing. On October 20, three days before the dinner in Fiji, Saudi Arabia admitted that its officials were responsible for his death.
Staff in London were concerned when they saw the earrings in the media. They alerted Kensington Palace, which decided not to take it up with the couple while they were on tour. A source said: “We made a decision not to confront Meghan and Harry on it, out of fear for what their reaction would be.”
After the duchess wore them a second time, an aide decided to confront Harry, a source said. He is said to have looked “shocked” that people knew where the earrings came from. Lawyers for the duke and duchess deny he was questioned about their provenance, which they said was well known.
Staff were surprised that she wore the earrings, given her views on women’s rights in Saudi Arabia. In October 2016, before the world knew that she was dating Harry, she took part in a One Young World summit in Ottawa, where she was photographed with the Saudi women’s rights activist Loujain al-Hathloul, one of the best-known faces of the campaign for women’s right to drive in her home country.
Meghan’s desire to champion the cause of women such as Hathloul would, royal insiders believe, make it highly unlikely that she would ever have met MBS.
Four days before Harry and Meghan’s wedding in May 2018 Hathloul was arrested and imprisoned in Saudi Arabia. Her family said she was tortured. She was released last month but her sister Lina pointed out that Hathloul was still subject to a travel ban and probation.
While the crown prince, who is the country’s deputy prime minister and day-to-day ruler, has introduced a number of reforms, he has been criticised for muzzling dissidents. Under his rule, arrests of human rights activists have risen, according to campaigners. He has said that he bears responsibility for Khashoggi’s murder “because it happened under my watch” but denied having any prior knowledge of the plot.
@Pantsface, Yeah, I'm supposed to be doing things here, too, and I'm happily watching The Kraken hover. (You think maybe it was Kraken sh*t on her expensive yet inappropriate black merching dress?)
Not what I wanted to hear but thanks all the same.
Well, I hope I can sleep now after all that excitement from The Times! 😅
Goodnight to all from this side of the pond. :)
Hats off to you lady for posting the LSA link! That was a great link. The hounds are set loose for sure.
I just about fell off my chair laughing at one poster saying the wig snatching has begun. I thought of the yak and LCC in her latest mimicking the "Turkish virgins missing their hair". LOL!
LSA is always a go to for hot off the press tea.
I wish I had emojis. Applause emoji here x a few more.
@NeutralObserver,
Not what I wanted to hear but thanks all the same.
Well, I hope I can sleep now after all that excitement from The Times! 😅
Goodnight to all from this side of the pond. :)
Goodnight! Sweet dreams of The Kraken regurgitating Yak hair when feeding its young.
Yes! That story is shocking.
My husband walked in a few minutes ago and my face was :O and he was like what’s wrong? And I replied, “Harry hit the drummer from Foo Fighters across the face. There’s a video of him talking about it.” And my husband, “ HARRY HIT TAYLOR?!!!! Oh Hell No.”
I guess this validates Harry’s physical tendencies we’ve been speculating on.
Some humanitarian that Markle is!!!!
And it sounds like she was even worse to her staff than we thought!!!
This should have all come out much sooner - I suppose we basically have Harry to thank for that.
They should let all the hidden info out now.
The palace staff wanted this info out now knowing she was going to blame them for her mistreatment during the O interview.
Maybe it was true that the staff did indeed want to testify and were disappointed that the trial didn't go ahead.
Where's the info about the weirdness surrounding the pregnancy and delivery?
This will only get better each day until the actual interview.
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I bet you're right!
There may be more articles between now and Sunday.
And the leaks might inspire more and more people to come forward with information!
Yippee!
How late is too late to reshoot and edit and stuff? Like what would the deadline be?
To me, this sudden spate of articles seems more like Wills than Charles. Knuaf is Wills' guy, after all. Charles is a wimp.
If it turns out to be Charles who turned on the tap, I stand corrected in advance.
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I think the palace staff wanted to defend themselves before the interview but do you think they would have to have an actual RF member approve leaking this to the Times? I would think so but sometimes I'm not sure who is really in charge there!
I'm going back to check for any more Times articles!
I wouldn't be surprised if much more comes out this week. It might even be enough to make it impossible for the US press to avoid reporting on truthfully.
Here! Reading! Wow wow —- ok on to your third one now! Thank you for posting all this I am squealing!
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They are using her own press strategy against her! Tons of distracting articles to take the smell off the Oprah rose!
I love it —- This has to be William and someone in the MI6, like the Queen’s old advisor Lord Christopher Geidt.
Ok back to reading
Pantsface,
Yes! That story is shocking.
My husband walked in a few minutes ago and my face was :O and he was like what’s wrong? And I replied, “Harry hit the drummer from Foo Fighters across the face. There’s a video of him talking about it.” And my husband, “ HARRY HIT TAYLOR?!!!! Oh Hell No.”
I guess this validates Harry’s physical tendencies we’ve been speculating on.
Yes, it sounds like Harry is a right bully. I wonder if he would have hit him across the face *without* security being present to protect him from his own actions?
https://pagesix.com/2021/03/02/meghan-markle-faces-bullying-claims-ahead-of-tell-all-oprah-interview/
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/meghan-bullying-claims-its-the-courtiers-who-shape-the-firm-pqqxvnv6g
Meghan bullying claims: It’s the courtiers who shape ‘The Firm’
Robert Lacey
Wednesday March 03 2021, 12.01am GMT, The Times
In a sense the real rulers of Britain’s palaces are not the royal family but their staff, the courtiers. It is the private secretaries, PAs and press officers who shape the melodrama surrounding “the Firm”. They are the show’s scriptwriters and directors, hence the paradoxical humility that characterises the royal family’s most successful members.
Meghan is herself a professional performer, schooled in Los Angeles where every production is built on the opposite principle: divas rule Hollywood’s sets.🤮
This inversion of the British system is evidently what Rachel Zane, the heroine of Suits, brought to London in 2017. Meghan was under pressure to perform and in turn palace staff appear to have come under pressure. We now discover that several hit back. Bullying claims are difficult to referee as there are always two sides to the story, but discretion ruled and this communication stayed out of sight, lodged with Simon Case, the Duke of Cambridge’s private secretary, and his successors.
Prince William understands the power and utility of the courtier. At the time of the crucial Sandringham summit of January 13, 2020, he turned down the Queen’s invitation to the closed luncheon she had intended as a family “chat” to talk through differences that had arisen with his brother. Instead he kept his powder dry for the negotiations that followed, when everyone had their private secretary beside them.
Boris Johnson later headhunted Case to be his cabinet secretary.Then in September the PM also made Case the youngest-ever head of the UK’s Civil Service.
Case demonstrates the steely calibre of staff who have been working behind the scenes in this era of royal rift — which brings us to the question of timing.
Not only have the bullying allegations been let slip but also the case of the Saudi earrings. A wedding gift from Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince, they were worn by Meghan in Fiji in October 2018, the month MBS’s hitmen were dismembering the journalist Jamal Khashoggi. For two years this error of jewellery choice was concealed — until this week, 12 days after the couple’s break from the system and a spat over the meaning of “public service”. Now they are outside the charmed circle, unprotected from this stinging riposte.
Robert Lacey is a biographer of the Queen
I caught that too. His officers joining him by his side. Nasty piece of work. #justiceforTaylor!!!!
If I am William and Anne directing this information dump, I would save the Australian mess for Thurs, SoHo hookerland on Friday, and then ——hand the MoS the Archie reveal for March 7.
Stalk them day by day they way they stalk the royals for two years.....
.........because we all know what the BIG reveal will be when Markus, yachts and funny money tumble out. Save that for Monday morning, March 8, for a week of breakfast shows.
She was one of a million talentless hustlers in LA, who never held an actual 9 to 5 job in her life. For money she used daddy, men, fake calligraphy, bit parts, “other work”, “event work” with Paula Trickey, and two husbands. She got lucky with her part time role in Suits, a place to live from the studio, and whatever arrangements Markus dug up for her. Maybe “business” for Doria too? Courier?
She “babysat” in college. No real work ever in her life, just partying and unsavory games.
She had no idea how to work in a professional office setting. Neither of her parents worked in one. In South America she spent two weeks before disappearing to Spain with a gentleman. I suppose she thought the palace was just another chance to bully people like the mean high school girl she is stuck at developmentally. She possibly has a mental illness, has no ethics and a temper like a thug.
Lacey can toot out lies and excuses for Netflix, but people know a b***h when they see one.
“the Times had rebuttals from the Sussexes LAWYERS and still
chose to publish. This says a lot about the information they have.”
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Sounds good - I like your list of Kraken's daily dumps! 💩💩💩🤣
I just found yet another Times article - a little opinion piece that calls the Harkles out on their crap....
Robert Crampton
Wednesday March 03 2021, 12.01am GMT, The Times
Was Meghan miscast?
I don’t know about you, but I’m counting down the days before we can all, finally, be put out of our misery. Not long to go now. Yup, in just five days, and nights, we’ll find out what Meghan said to Oprah. Was she silent, or silenced?
In my opinion the problem isn’t press intrusion or Meghan’s supposed high-maintenance personality, or the couple’s irritating implication that they have a monopoly on duty and compassion. It’s not even Harry’s anger about what happened to his mum.
The problem is the nature of the institution into which Harry was born. It is a rule-bound organisation first and a family second. It’s no accident that insiders call it The Firm.
Moreover, this is a very odd, very top-down operation. As Peter Morgan has the Duke of Edinburgh tell Princess Diana in The Crown, only one member (or arguably two, if you include the heir) of this family actually counts. The rest of them are ornamental. We don’t sing God Save the Royal Family, do we? In this movie only one star has her name above the title. The rest get a mention in the end credits.
I don’t think Meghan grasped her new position. Or rather, she did, but a little too late. When, for instance, Meghan was told about having to curtsy to her grandmother-in-law, and how William and Kate outranked her, it seems she pushed back. And the court in turn pushed back hard.
As for Harry, his hatred of the press is blinding him to reason. He told James Corden, bizarrely, that he was comfortable with The Crown. That’s despite the fact that in the last series most of his older relatives were portrayed as fairly abominable human beings. He reckons The Crown is OK because it’s fiction and because, well, it’s not the papers. I know some titles have been rude, but most of the media is actually embarrassingly craven towards the royal family.
I think Meghan, smart woman that she is, realised she’d signed up for a lifetime’s bit part in someone else’s drama, and baled.
that's right - I thought I saw someone say earlier that the rebuttals or a response of some sort from MM to the Times is out there for us to read. Do you know where to find it?
You are doing the work of angels giving us all this info! I am literally bouncing in my chair with glee and awe.
We have lived through a global pandemic, long enough to see the Palace finally complain and explain!
⚡️No one hurts the hunk of burning man love of Angry Cabbage! ⚡️☄️🔥🌪
ELLE has it, if this is what you mean:
https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a35702962/meghan-markle-rep-bullying-allegation-response/
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She must be on fire.
I wrote earlier about how I would never forgive the pair of them and would always associate them with anything that might happen to PP anytime soon so I can just imagine how Her Maj feels.
Reading all this new info also makes me realize just how weird it was of Harry to go along with all of MM's antics. It sounds like she was extremely vile to her staff.
Now, I remember Nutty once saying that one way Woke Meghan could fall would be if it was proven that she behaved in a racist manner herself. Her aid Melissa Toubli (sp?) is Middle Eastern. I wonder if anything MM did or said was disrespectful of MT's ethnicity?
‘Melissa is a hugely talented person,’ the source says. ‘She played a pivotal role in the success of the Royal Wedding and will be missed by everyone in the Royal Household.’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6373969/EDEN-CONFIDENTIAL-Palace-shock-Meghan-Markles-closest-aid-quits-job-months-wedding.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top
EDEN CONFIDENTIAL: Palace shock as Meghan Markle's closest aide quits her job just six months after royal wedding
It has also hit the Australian papers.
Regarding Charles vs William handling the Markles .... I think it must be William because it looks like Charles is doing his own celebrity hangouts:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/prince-charles-will-share-a-curry-with-katy-perry-for-this-special-reason/ar-BB1e9ksC
I think Charles has indulged the "merchants of oat glop" and allowed all sorts of bad behavior under the misguided idea that it would help with Charles' popularity with the youth demographic. At least William leaked his displeasure about how Harry was treating the Queen.
Meanwhile, Charles quietly took away their postage stamps, but was probably forced to by BP. I think he would like to have them back. Luckily for the UK, the Markles have dug themselves a very deep hole.
Will Harry actually show up for the Diana statue unveiling? Would Brits actually boo him in front of a Diana tribute?
It seems someone was referring to his stories as the "PALACE" hitting back instead of the "royal aides" hitting back and he replies:
valentinelow
@valentinelow
I am not sure this is quite right. It is not the palace hitting back. The palace is in fact very concerned about the allegations, because they do not reflect well on them.
He also stated that no one was paid for the info in his articles.
The bullying stories includes a private secretary, communications secretary and personal assistants.
Does anyone know the difference between the royal aides and the 'palace'? Would the palace mean the royal family itself or perhaps upper-level employees?
Pasties! Wonderful! Someone needs to do an animation of Stripper Megsie swinging 'em about.
Doing the old Bump & Grind! The weight of those stones would have a prodigious effect...
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@Lighthealer Astrid - good to have you on board again. Welcome back.
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I looked in at about 2.20am GMT because I couldn't sleep. Thank Goodness I did - I wouldn't have had enough time for all this otherwise!
"Will Harry actually show up for the Diana statue unveiling? Would Brits actually boo him in front of a Diana tribute?"
I don't know if people would boo. But I'm also not sure how many "ordinary people" will be allowed to attend the statue's unveiling. I doubt COVID will be in the rearview mirror by summer, unfortunately. And while I don't know exactly where the statue will be placed in the Palace's Sunken Garden, I can't imagine that large crowds will be allowed to gather in the immediate vicinity out of everyday security concerns.
Now, I'm really curious to see what the H&M-Oprah interview is going to reveal. BRF must be really worried about what the Sussexes are going to say.
I think it's looking more and more like H&M are planning to blame staff on-air for their problems instead of actual family members. Likely, they are spinning it as the people who run the show are faulty, out of touch, and they are the reason for family conflicts and their emotional turmoil.
However the Sussexes are really stupid if they throw staff under the bus. They are undermining the BRF's judgment, protocols, and their ability to keep the Firm running with highly qualified, loyal, and discreet staff.
My understanding was always that a royal aide was an executive assistant or secretary to someone of a high rank in the Palace or its adjacencies — so there would be those assigned to the individual royals and their offices, as well as those directly assigned to higher ups in various palace departments, or the facets of the palace, be it Royal Collections Trust, or communications, or even events planning etc. each member of the senior royal family would have a few royal aides, I think. I am trying to remember because someone I worked with in London has a brother who she introduced as a royal aide who joined us after work once for drinks and he explained a basic outline of some of it to me, but gah, I am struggling to recall. He had something o do with advance planning.
"The couple’s lawyers told The Times that this newspaper is “being used by Buckingham Palace to peddle a wholly false narrative” before the interview."
Who do they mean by "Buckingham Palace"? The Queen, the entire Royal family, or is it staff?
That was a stupid statement by the Sussexes' lawyers to make.
I hope you don't mind me using this simile (and I love horses!) it's like shooting her horse from under her as she get ready to charge. No point in trying to take pot shots at her once she's trampled you down and is galloping away in a cloud of dust - or dancing on your corpse.
It also has the advantage of giving Oprah pause for thought - she can't very well ignore what's been said but if she has to include it, she'll have to rethink her plans. Will she postpone and re do it? Go ahead with a new interview and do it off the cuff and show us an outraged Meghan? Cancel altogether?
If she runs it as it is, she risks looking very silly, especially if more is revealed before the event.
A parody, for your heroic efforts keeping us informed:
Royal Aides Reveal Meghan Bullying Claims Before Oprah Interview:
“Like Having a Mad Snake with Dentures Gnawing Your Arse Daily”
EXCLUSIVE
The Duchess of Excess is accused of driving two assistants to leap off a pile
of wigs, and causing a third a “massive shock” over “faked pregnancy”
Royal aides, shrieking “free, free at last, this one’s for our old mate Phil, so bite me, Peg, you mammoth barmy cow b****!” flooded the road tonight near Kensington Palace, waving signs, hugging each other, drinking Champagne splits and waving at honking cars.
The sources approached Nutty Flavor Times saying they wanted to tell their side before their former boss plasters the Palace and Royal Family this Sunday and Monday in a now 14 hour interview with Oprah Winfrey, They say the Duchess faced bullying complaints from her closest advisors, and aides, and members of the food services, IT, communications, cleaning, gardening, tiara, and nest removal teams.
A complaint filed in 2018 was submitted to protect staff. Said the senior staff member who filed the report, “Oh, it was everything wasn’t it? Meg terrified at least two young women and completely broke a third. It started with name calling, eye-poking and shoe shaming, but quickly escalated to lunch tray flipping, hair pulling, pinching, kicking, throwing girls down the steps “because Diana did” and finally she stole one’s wedding rings, and forced the other girl to write a mean letter to the girl’s ailing father. I stepped in when I heard Peg had sold one woman’s teen daughter to Soho House and locked Angela Kelley in a linen pantry with a live bat. Peg merely laughed, then called my girlfriend right to say I was dating Rose Hanbury.I tried to talk to Harry but he started crying and said “don’t let her hit me!” Well, then we found the Junior Assistant tied to a tree in the rain, with yet another of her aides buried to her neck in the garden nearby. That young lady ended up quitting. I filed the complaint, but was told the RF wanted us to make it go away, even though Megs had just cut the brakes on Camilla’s car, sent a box of dead birds to the Catherine, got into a knife fight with Philip, and tried to superglue the Queen into her bed chamber. It was a bit of a challenge. But nothing was done.”
Outside Kensington, one jubilant young woman said about Meg, “Yah, I quit three weeks in. For me it started when that daft old tart yelled at me every morning. Then the next week old Peg began to call my mum everyday and tell her I was dead. When I told her to please stop, she told me she was not in England to make friends, The third week she told me to drown Harry, and drown Camilla, and bring Prince Charles naked to her office with a whip. I said no, she screamed, I quit. I think someone ought to know these things, IOprah never asked any of us anything. Megs is mad as a snake. Made us scrub her dentures too!”
“Well it was the whole fake kid and fake bumps thing for me, wasn’t it?” exclaimed another former aide. “We knew she wasn’t pregnant because we felt sure she is a 50 year old man, But also she made us wash her fake bumps! Then she began stealing little babies, in the food market didn’t she, saying the two she ordered might be ugly so she wanted backups. She wanted us to take care of them in our offices til May, we said no! I quit when she threw a desk on top of me, fracturing my spine. All I could see from the floor were Peg’s dirty big suede engagement shoes kicking my purse to make my money fall out, so yah, I never went back after hospital.”
A spokeswoman for the Excesses says they are victims of a smear campaigns. “I was not there to molly coddle those ignorant British girls. I was there to harm them for my pleasure, and send a warning to Haz and his grandparents that said ‘See this, old people? See the terror? You’re next! Give me all the money!’ That was the job I was there to do.” ��
In my dreams, O asks `Why is it, Wallis, I mean Megsie Baby, that your scalp is pure white? Have you been having us on?'
Let this bullying claim be the first crack in the dam this week.
Let the stories start to pour out, culminating with the biggest shocker being revealed just before the Oprah interview, so that all those who have been asleep can watch said interview and marvel at the psychopath duchess and the gall of her actions.
When the levee breaks, "mama" you've got to go...
Thanks for the dedicated conservation California Condors are making a comeback. I wonder if in gratitude for their conservation work the birds did a flyover over in tribute. I think the Condors gave their version of you do shit, you get shit. Oh yeah, they are big birds.
When Price Phillip said Cabbage it's time. Cabbage asked how high? Down the line like a machine gun. Queen called Will. Will assembled the team. He gave the group of Krakens. Will is ready to handle the Krakens. Charles is summoned to PP bedside.
PP tells PC we are dealing this now. The Queen plays the long game. She knows how PC is regarding Haz. PC will be king. Only PW has been schooled by the Queen for his whole life. He has been schooled by the best. Will has grown closer to his father. He will be assisting PC in the duties with wisdom, listens to gray suits and the Queen gave him his own Krakens to use in regarding his once known as prince brother.
You don't put out on ad's you have plans to nuke the BP and Monarchy in advance. Unless you want to fail, I don't think on this they wanted to fail. It's been mentioned here how she's stuck in 90's and Oprah is her announcement they have arrived. So they thought this would be trumpets blaring as if they're on top of invites of the A list. They're still playing the same micro violin. Haz knew the family kept Krakens, he just was stupid to think they would not use them on him.
I sure PP will not under any circumstances allow those two be allowed at his funeral. PC will be overruled and have no choice. Will is taking over Haz issues. I doubt M16 has those two tweets in the country again. Don't they keep a list that her sister as put on? I can see a kraken adding two new names.
I believe I have at least two, possibly three accounts of Meghan’s bullying in her younger days. One account is from the sister of a girl who was targeted by Meghan in high school. The other two are from her college sorority days at Northwestern. I think have copies of the three accounts, but will have to search to see if I can find them. They are not at all flattering and dovetail into the reports of Meghan’s alleged behavior reports of bullying palace staffers.
It might take a few days for me to locate these reports. I’m buried at work right now.
I wonder if PP will get his wish for a modest funeral?
Should he depart this life in the near future, a grand funeral would surely be out of the question; crowds are a no-no, quarantine regs could `imprison' H if he landed here. (I imagine if H did come to say goodbye, it'd finish Grandpa off completely - so yes, I think that's the Sharkles again.)
It could be like Bea's wedding, very private, not reported until afterwards, perhaps not even in St Georges. It'd avoid anything unseemly - perhaps the only outward sign would be a piper in the outer precincts of the Castle, playing a lament.
Thanks JennS et al for all the latest
info, a tsunami of tea 🌊
So many great comments, voraciously reading!
AnT - brilliant “Mad Snake” Exclusive 👏
Krakahoa finally erupting 🌋
Scarf Ace 🧣
Wills is displaying his wrath
By tightening the knot in his scarf
Time(s) to keep up the fracking
By flexing his muscle
Towards Haz and his Hustle
The Kraken is finally cracking
When the levee breaks, "mama" you've got to go...
Yes indeed! Indeed indeed indeed! I can hear Robert Plant's dirge like harmonica playing for Megsy.
Thankyou for your kind words.
You ask me - if I understand you correctly - how it is that Markle can disregard court orders and yet obtain summary judgement. Court actions can as can be seen from Harkle -v- MoS be expensive. Most litigants do not have money to waste and therefore Defendants can place a financial burden on Plaintiffs by litigating until the cows come home and also of course in the process waste a lot of valuable court time (Courts waste so much anyway from unavoidable happenings - most of the time in court one is sitting waiting around to come on, if one ever does). As a result the concept of the Summary Judgement was introduced where a Plaintiff can say to the Court that the Defence case is so obviously bad and without merit that the trial and all the interlocutory steps should be disposed of and judgement give right now for the Plaintiff. Usually and I do not think I have ever seen it delayed this takes place as soon as a defence has been filed - equally failure to file a defence can be used to obtain judgement. The matter being clear-cut two or three days of court time are not taken up in hearing how straight forward the case is and how the Defendant has no defence - after all what we are looking for is Summary Judgement not a trial! The Harkles however did not do this and only woke up (no pun intended) to the efficacy of a Summary Judgement very late on and as you rightly say after having failed to comply in what looks to me like contempt of court with certain orders. The point is this: the failure to comply with the Court's orders and the right to apply for Summary Judgement are unrelated to each other. The one does not depend upon the other.
May I also add tangentially (especially for Americans) that I have recently on the Youtube been watching scenes from American Courtrooms (no television of court proceedings in England or Wales) and I have been rather shocked. In one case a black man sentenced to two consecutive terms of eleven years imprisonment was following an outburst at his sentence awarded an extra six years prison for that outburst as the white Judge ruled it contempt of court. In England being rude or crying out (oh so common) is NOT contempt of court - neither do Judges get to alter their sentence - the Judge said the outburst contradicted the Defendant's alleged remorse [what the !?!?!/] - when they see the unhappiness and disapproval thereto of the Defendant.
Thank you Opus
Although that rather dispels the old UK joke.
A man sentenced to six months jail laughed,
and said. “ I can do that standing on my head”
The judge then gave him another six months,
to put him back on his feet!!
'Gifts are classed as personal when they are:
• given by public bodies, businesses or private individuals with whom the Member of The
Royal Family has an established relationship, such as Warrant Holders, on the occasion of a
marriage, birth, birthday or other notable personal occasion (including Christmas), and where
the value of the gift is less than £150 (if a gift is given where there is no established
relationship, other than on a notable personal occasion or is over £150 in value, the gift
should be classified as official).
.....
An official gift is not the personal property of a Member of The Royal Family (even if used)
and is therefore not liable to taxation provided that its acceptance, retention and disposal are
carried out in accordance with the guidelines and procedures set out above.'
https://royal.uk (pdf file)
This means that the earrings are not Megalo's personal property (I assume they're over £150!) and therefore she can't keep them/flog them. @Acquitaine and Opus, I think I have interpreted the document correctly but feel free to correct me.
Unfortunately I’m having a problem uploading pics of Mm and JL
Don’t be fooled by the rocks (from MBS) I’ve got
I’m still I’m still Megsie from the block!
Sorry, I've just seen your post from the Times re. the earrings, just after I posted mine. I'm still catching up on all the posts.
The earrings given to Mega by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia were a 'personal gift'. The Crown has a gift policy. In addition, members of the BRF need to be careful when accepting gifts.
My bet is at 85% that our amazing Megsy still has these earrings. Remember that this all took place back when M/H were in better graces with the BRF. Back when Harry would throw a fit (a fake one in my book) when "what Meghan wants, Meghan gets" was not happening. The BRF/Grey Men thinking was that being accused of racism was not worth it. So let Megsy keep them.
Maneki, thanks for your earlier post X
Dox in Tox
Poor Dr. Seuss
In need of a muse
Enter I Am Meg, Meg I Am
The Cat in the Hat
Now identifies as, Rat
Thing One and Thing Two
They’re confused, just like you
Green Eggs and Ham
Oat Cakes and Soy Spam
Damn you, damn you, Meg I Am
My guess is that Oprah and Gayle are fully committed to the Harkles and their lies and will defend, blame, attack ... repeat.
Timing?
Harry pushes for early finalization of Megxit. He negotiates with the Queen while Meghan feeds the media with PR pushing for some version of the half in half out deal she wanted and that she sold to Harry.
BP gets told about the Oprah interview. The Queen always knew what she was going to do and why. She presses the go button.
With approval and agreement from the Queen and Charles, William releases the kraken through aides.
What the Sussexes do not understand is that it is not personal. It is the duty of the monarch to serve the UK and the Commonwealth. The Sussexes abused and through Oprah are launching a full attack on the monarchy and the UK (accusations of racism, etc.).
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-6794#post-69122973
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-6794#post-69123026
Here is an excerpt, and it is genuine.
"March 2019: I was fortunate to be given an invitation to attend the house-warming party at Harry and Meghan’s newly refurbished home, Frogmore Cottage. I was already familiar with the place as a result of a brief dalliance with the wife of one of the house’s previous occupants. It was sad to see that the rustic charm had been replaced, at a cost to the taxpayer of nearly £3million, by decor that was a cross between The Great Gatsby and Teletubbieland. On several of the walls hung large photographs of great Hollywood actresses including Monroe, Hayworth, Russell, Garbo and of course the lovely Meghan herself."
Megpie
All things bright and shiny
For the mistress so crass, and so whiny
Looks like she’s finally Bin busted
To hang from her ears
Blooded diamond chandeliers
Proves she’s lacking in mores
I’m Disgusted
A hat-cat concatenation with La Megs. All in verse. One could do much much much worse.
I turned around in the supermarket aisle last week and I freaked. I saw 5 different brands of oat milk in normal looking one quart milk cartons. Though - None with Megs mug on them. Where were they? In the refrigerated dairy and milk section. Oat milk is moving on up! (Jeffersons reference)
AnnaK said...
Megsie is morphing ( with the help of fillers!) into Jennifer Lopez especially in the latest Oprah interview pics!
Unfortunately I’m having a problem uploading pics of Mm and JL
Don’t be fooled by the rocks (from MBS) I’ve got
I’m still I’m still Megsie from the block!
As the lols keep coming, as we approach
The Big O's interview that will rock.
O- No peddler of schlock.
The lead up to the bleed out of Megs' accusations.
The Royal propaganda machine must stay
In this fray
As Anon Grey Men scheme
To undermine Megsy lies
During the next four days
The Palace Greys will amaze
Queenie must give them a raise
A monstrous woman found the perfect place to land - in a family that is protected from the law and the media.
But it may just be the concerted joint efforts of the various news outlets that bring her down along with a long-awaited nod from the RF.
This article below from the DM makes a point out of Meghan accusing Buckingham Palace of deliberately 'smearing' her and orchestrating a campaign against her. Ironically they did not do enough about her. Regardless, I'm hoping headlines like this will push the palace/firm to take Harry out of the line of succession and remove their titles. These are serious accusations and they are false. It's the least the RF should do after this latest development.
Meghan accuses Buckingham Palace of a 'calculated smear campaign' - after Royal aide claims she 'bullied two staff' and 'drove them out' of Kensington Palace, four days before explosive Oprah interview will be aired
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9319311/MEGHAN-BULLY-CLAIM-Duchess-bullied-two-staff-time-working-royal.html
What strikes me as quite odd, is that there has been no leak of mobile phone footage, voice recordings, or any other digital evidence of M's behaviour.
You would have to think such evidence exists. If you were an employee, relatively powerless, and were not being protected by your employer, wouldn't you be tempted to record the alleged incidents of bullying? This would mean (i) you could prove to yourself later that you weren't actually imagining it or overblowing it, the incident happened just as you remembered. (ii) That should the episodes continue, you would have a record of just how often it had happened, and prove that it was an ongoing course of conduct, not just one-off. And (iii) should M decide to turn the tables on you and accuse you of actually bullying her (instead of the other way around) you could actually protect yourself against those allegations and prove you were the victim, not her.
I have a strong feeling that if there is such footage (and really, there has to be), it will appear in the next few days.
Hicktor
Megs is a bully, no doubt
Her dad should have stepped in with clout
She’s gone through her life
Causing pain, and much strife
It’s time now to call her out
@xxxxx
Amy Winehouse said it best
“What kind of fuckery is this”
Jen, I’ve said before, the press will/have
come together.
It’s in their own interests to protect
freedom of speech.
As much as I dislike Murdoch,
he has the clout, and money, to print what
he pleases.
Interesting Times!!
Sandie, exactly!!
They are attacking the Monarch,
the soul of the country.
I believe William is leading the counter attack.
Scarf off, Go Wills!!
Disgusted, yes, we have discussed the odious one.
But, he should be applauded for this torrent of tea!
As we know, he has the power to make,
or break, Prime Ministers/Presidents.
The nod would have been given from above.
Yes, we've talked about the press coming together.
I guess what I'm saying now is that it seems like they are fine-tuning their approach.
The Times dropped the tea and the Daily Mail is providing the sensational headlines!
Thanks for your latest witties especially the Dr. Seuss one!
Do I remember you writing a few Dr.Seuss-inspired poems early during your Nutty poetry contributions?
I hope the mail newspaper remembered what she said at the start of this court fiasco,
She said she was donating ALL money won to anti-bullying charity,
I bet the charity will be over the moon, with the substantial money Markle donates £450.000 now, plus extra later if she wins more damages,
Literally put your money where your mouth is Meggy!!!
This story sounds familiar, does anyone remember? What are the chances of Megalo donating ALL of it? (clue: 4 letter word beginning with N and ending in E with letters O and N in the middle)
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-6791#post-69118991
Posted yesterday at 5.06 pm, #203707
Jen, you don’t mess with Murdoch!
Thank you, I did write earlier “Seuss Rhymes”
Sadly lost. Thank you for championing me 😘
I wish Lacey would stop referring to the Palace Staff as 'courtiers', he makes these very professional employees sound like the Seymour and the Boleyn families scheming away to influence the Monarch.
I think the Kraken has been released because of that meeting of Prince Charles with Prince Philip - he is not standing for his family to be dragged through the mud courtesy of the odious duo and he wants to highlight how much the family and their staff bent over for the couple by releasing all the stuff that had been suppressed by the Palace into Meghan and Harry's appalling treatment of staff, how Meghan can continue to claim she's been bullied is beyond me. Bring it on I say! Next up the bumps/surrogate/plastic non-existent Archie
Obviously the Oprah show will be throwing these courtiers under the bus along with the 'bullying & toxic' British tabloids/media and the 'racist'
Us Brits never made poor orphan Meghan welcome despite 11.5 million Brits watching their marriage on the telly on the same day as a televised Football FA Cup Final (Manchester United v Chelsea - two of the biggest teams in the UK if not the world).
Clearly we all missed those crowds of white racists all lining the route of their carriage ride ready to hurl the tomatoes at the poor bullied victim Megs, how did ITV and the BBC manage to disguise all those boos from the crowds in their coverage of the Wedding and the carriage ride lined with plebs?...
As for Harry stating a few months back that London isn't really that diverse, surely he can remember his 2nd official public engagement in Brixton with Meghan before they got married. The engagement was deemed to be a success for the couple and was lauded on the BBC news that night, obviously Harry noted the ethnicity of the crowds and the people he met.
I live in the area, it's very multicultural and we have many nationalities, and like Meghan herself we also have many who are mixed race which shows to me that we are not just existing and 'sticking to our own' like Harry suggested. I'm not saying that there isn't racism about but I have never seen any of it directed towards Meghan or to Harry for marrying her.
Just like his other statement of 'being unable to buy black dolls or non-white dolls' he obviously he was playing the race card as their excuse for leaving. Apart from being utterly stupid why does he think people will buy this nonsense?
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-greeted-by-excited-crowds-during-royal-visit-to-brixton-radio-station-a3735836.html
Why doesn't the US media dig deeper and just take their word on everything?
I pray for her victims. I hope they will get some justice because I am sick to my back teeth of this snake spouting nonsense about women’s rights and kindness and compassion 🤢. The palace should have never allowed this.
The most shocking revelation remains the earrings gifted by MBS. What a distasteful w*ore! My stomach turned thinking about JK’s atrocious murder and I immediately thought about the photo of Loujain al-Hathloul, posted by her sister after she spent 1001 days in jail while being tortured. Words fail me.
Bad behaviour from royals has always been treated in two ways: a word from the Queen (happened at WC when Meghan was rude to catering staff); moving staff or letting them go with a generous severance package and assistance in finding a fabulous job elsewhere (also happened with some leaving and then returning and others being offered positions elsewhere in the establishment).
Does Harry realize that he is out for good and it is just going to get worse? How can he have been with Meghan for how many years now and not realized that she is a liar, an abusive bully, a rude and self-centred hypocrite, and a very wild spender.
@Deer —lol, condors! I love it!
Re Murdoch:
On Jan 25, 2021, the Daily Mail ran an article titled as follows:
Rupert Murdoch says media needs to “confront wave of censorship” and slams
“awful woke orthodoxy” — and says “I’m far from done”
In this article, featuring a speech he gave as he was given an award from the
Australia Day Foundation.He said, “Too many people have fought too hard
in too many places for freedom of speech to be be suppressed by this
awful woke orthodoxy.”
ANL Seeks An Appeal And MM Outed As A Bully By BP
I haven't read it, I don't think I have the stomach for yet more H&M cr@p.
What is more, London has had many persons of African origin and mixed African/British origin living as free citizens for at least 250 years, longer than the US has been in existence. The genes of those black Georgians are still in us, still recognisable in many of us who consider ourselves white.
It did not start with in 1948 with the docking of the `Empire Windrush'.
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/blackhistory/early_times/blanke.htm
Your comment is so thoughtfully well-stated that I wish people in the media would be able to read it. And Oprah too, before she jumps even deeper into the murk and lies of the Sussexes.
@Flore, @Disgusted,TunbridgeWells —
indeed! And will Miss Humanitarian donate the earrings now to the gavel for charity funds?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbqELWIQ2h4&ab_channel=talkRADIO
Starts at 1:35.42
There's plenty of ammunition in the locker so it'll be followed by broadsides a-plenty if they don't surrender.
Why has the song about Admiral Benbow in his last battle come into my mind?
The surgeon dress'd his wounds,
Cries Benbow, cries Benbow
The surgeon dress'd his wounds, cries Benbow.
Let a cradle now in haste,
on the quarterdeck be placed
That the enemy I may face
'Til I die, 'Til I die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx_RRE9A8i4
Exactly and thank you for explaining that for those who haven’t experienced it. I mentioned ages ago that my first managerial role turned out to be working for a Meghan type - a viciously abusive woman, a VP in the company whose emotional and physical abuse literally sent staffers to the hospital. The team was silent and crushed, I quickly saw why. The only evidence they had were their own eyes, bruises and a few notes - HR made the notes disappear when turned in. It took me, one of my brave staffers, and a peer manager to go on offensive, collecting enough journaled data over a few months, planning. When another was rushed to hospital after having chest pains after being screamed at and shoved into a wall in front of us, and HR still refused to address it, we had to resort to deeper OTT means. The attacked were in shock.
@JennS, You are really doing yeoman's work reading & posting all of the Times articles. Thank you!
@Sandie, Thanks for the links to LSA, I don't know how to navigate that site.
@AnT, Hilarious. I particularly enjoyed No one hurts the hunk of burning man love of Angry Cabbage! LOL! LCC says she's met Prince Philip several times, & that he's the 'most masculine' man she's ever met, along with Sean Connery.
If, as some of us suspect, Wills is behind the Palace info war, & not Charles, you can see why the rumors that HM & Philip don't think he would be a good king, might be true.
I'm beginning to see Harry as a rebel prince who has gone to another country, surrounded himself with foreign mercenaries, & is warring on his brother, the legitimate heir. Perhaps @WBBM & @Acquitaine can come up with pertinent parallels from history. I sort of see Harry as an Edward II, & Megs as his monstrous wife, Isabella. Edward was a legitimate heir, but was the 4th son of his father, Edward I.
That being said, unlike poor Skippy & some of her anons, I'm well aware that the present monarchy has only symbolic power, & basically exists to give legitimacy to the actions of elected officials, who have real power. That's why it is so important for the Monarch to be someone of perceived integrity.
Duchess of Sussex accused of 'bullying Palace staff to tears
The Duchess of Sussex faced several bullying complaints from members of her staff during her time as working royal, it was claimed on Tuesday night, as tensions between the couple and Buckingham Palace deepened.
She was accused of driving two personal assistants out of the household and undermining the confidence of a third employee, The Times reported.
A spokesman for the Sussexes told The Telegraph: "The Duchess is saddened by this latest attack on her character, particularly as someone who has been the target of bullying herself and is deeply committed to supporting those who have experienced pain and trauma.
"She is determined to continue her work building compassion around the world and will keep striving to set an example for doing what is right and doing what is good."
Jason Knauf, the couple's communications secretary at the time, submitted a formal complaint about the claims in October 2018 in an apparent bid to protect his staff. In his email, he said: "I am very concerned that the Duchess was able to bully two PAs out of the household in the past year. The treatment of X was totally unacceptable. The Duchess seems intent on always having someone in her sights. She is bullying Y and seeking to undermine her confidence. We have had report after report from people who have witnessed unacceptable behaviour towards Y."
Royal aides are said to have approached The Times ahead of Meghan and Harry's Oprah Winfrey interview, due to be broadcast in the US on Sunday evening, because they felt only "a partial version" had emerged of the Duchess's two years as a working member of the Royal family. They were also said to be concerned about how such matters are handled by the palace.
Sources reportedly expressed concern that nothing was done at the time to investigate the situation, and nothing had been done since to protect staff against the possibility of bullying by a member of the Royal family.
The atmosphere at Kensington Palace was said to be so "febrile" that the Cambridges chose to accelerate the planned split between the two households. It was claimed that staff would be reduced to tears, with one aide, telling a colleague on anticipation of a confrontation with the Duchess: "I can't stop shaking." Two senior members of staff are said to have claimed they were bullied by the Duchess.
Another former employee told The Times they had been personally "humiliated" by her and claimed that two members of staff had been bullied. One aide claimed it felt "more like emotional cruelty and manipulation, which I guess could also be called bullying".
Sources appear to have raised concerns that little was done by palace staff, despite allegations that "members of staff, particularly young women, were being bullied to the point of tears". One is quoted as saying: "The institution just protected Meghan constantly. All the men in grey suits who she hates have a lot to answer for, because they did absolutely nothing to protect people.
Mr Knauf's email is said to have been sent to Simon Case, then the Duke of Cambridge's private secretary and now the Cabinet Secretary, after he discussed the matter with Samantha Carruthers, the head of HR. Mr Case forwarded it to Ms Carruthers, who was based at Clarence House.
He said that Ms Carruthers "agreed with me on all counts that the situation was very serious".
The email, in which Mr Knauf is also said to have expressed concern about the stress experienced by Samantha Cohen, the Sussexes' private secretary, concluded: "I questioned if the Household policy on bullying and harassment applies to principals."
The Duke of Sussex is said to have pleaded with Mr Knauf not to pursue it, according to a source. However, lawyers for the couple denied that such a meeting took place or that the Duke would interfere with a staff matter.
A source close to the Sussexes told The Telegraph on Tuesday night that they had no reason to doubt the existence of the email.
However, the source said that when the alleged complainants became aware that the issue had been raised, they asked for it to be withdrawn and it was not pursued.
The Times alleged that two of the people named in the email, who have not been identified, felt that nothing had been done to investigate the bullying claim.
The couple's lawyers told The Times that it was "being used by Buckingham Palace to peddle a wholly false narrative" ahead of the Oprah interview.
When the Sussex and Cambridge households split in March 2019, Mr Knauf took up a job as an adviser to the Duke of Cambridge and is now chief executive of the Cambridges' Royal Foundation.
He was named in the recent privacy action taken by the Duchess against The Mail on Sunday as Meghan revealed that he had advised her when she was composing a letter to her father, Thomas Markle.
Buckingham Palace is understood to have been aware of the allegations for some time.
The palace declined to comment on Tuesday night.
Parallels? Yes, Isabella `She-wolf of France'.
What about Wm III? We tend to think of him landing quietly at Brixham, as if he'd been on a trip around the bay. Jardine tells quite another story - he came with a huge fleet, armed to the teeth, for his own reasons, to unseat his father-in-law. We've conveniently forgotten that, having been so fixated on the `Protestant Destiny' of England, although he was being backed by the Pope.
Other than that, Stephen and Matilda? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen,_King_of_England
The idea that Black people were non-existent or even very rare in England or Europe is a recent revisionist history that erases the history of them such as the one you mentioned and the fact that 'Moors'were regular in Europe. They ignore the 700yrs the North African ruled southern Spain before the crusades and the Northern Europeans drove them out of Europe.
Heck, Alessandro D'Medici (yes those Medicis), Duke and ruler of Florence around the same time as the Henry 8 in England, was black (mixed). His nickname was il Moro ( the moor) on account of his dark skin. He reigned from 1510-37. This is him.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Alessandro_de%27_Medici_Bronzino.jpg
George Bridgetower was a negro Violinist who must have been pretty good because Beethoven dedicated his Op 47 Violin Sonata to Bridgetower but as sometimes happened with Ludwig van he fell out with Bridgetower and as with the Eroica (originally dedicated to Bonaparte) scratched out the original dedication and rededicated the piece this time to Kreuzer.
Edward Elgar was responsible for obtaining for Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (Nigerian father - and of course because of Hiawatha one of the most successful British composers of the time whose fame subsists) the Norwich commission for his Violin Concerto.
In the latter half of the Nineteenth century and beyond minstrelsy was very popular. Just as we are now indifferent as to whether we see Abba or a lookalike Abba band, Victorians were indifferent as to whether their minstrels were negros or Welshmen in black-face (much as we do not care whether we see black Michael Jackson or white Michael Jackson). The newspaper adverts of the time fail to distinguish and so we cannot know for certain exactly who was performing.
More amazing to me is this section from Book 7 of Wordsworth's the Prelude in which book he is in walking the streets of London and has been down to the docks (this is just a small fraction of it). Listen to this:
"Through all the colours which the Sun bestows
And every character of form and face,
The Swede the Russian; from the genial south
The Frenchman and the Spaniard; from remote
America the hunter Indian; Moors,
Malays, Lascars, The Tartar and Chinese,
And Negro Ladies in white muslin gowns."
And negro Ladies in white Muslin gowns - in London, near the docks in 1800. London: simply not diverse enough for the Prince and Duchess of Woke. Brahahahaha.
Apparently the media has details on the bump, but can’t release it with the ongoing court case.
Take it with a grain of salt, but it would make sense.
Yes, exactly. The person I dealt with bullied men, women, people of color and people who were white, a woman who was pregnant, two men who were gay, a woman who was disabled — it was almost unbearable as I had previously worked in an incredibly healthy positive diverse environment, management to youngest staff, where no one was above the rules, and all were strictly protected. When the crazy woman VP was accused we were told “but she is a nice woman, but she champions charity X, but she has stress.” What we had to do to prove our point and stop her was absurd, and nearly cost us our jobs, but by that point, after three people had quit in tears and two were in hospital, we didn’t give a damn. I imagine that is how these royal aides feel — sometimes enough is simply enough.
@Wild Boar Battle-maid,
My contact tells me he hears the supporting materials are “extensive and persuasive” - but that is per someone he knows, not firsthand.
He was the middle brother of Edward 4 and Richard 3.
Even the family dynamics of continuing loyalty to him despite his many betrayals, jealousy and twice trying to usurp his brother is replaying with Harry.
George gets an infamous cameo in the play by Shakespeare where he is drowned in a barrel of wine, but that was after a l-o-n-g list of horrible stuff he did to his family.
He was easily persuaded that he was a better option and infact the rightful heir or King amd not his older brother.
He merrily spread rumours that his brother the King was illegitimate, the product of an affair between their mother and a random archer.
He twice sided, aided and allowed the Lancastrians to arrest ( or try) and usurp the throne. If not for the clever thinking, quick action and military brilliance of Edward and Richard, he would have succeeded.
And when he was forgiven for the upteenth time he behaved as if he were the King, grabbing money and wealth and insisting on being given or treated with honours.
His brothers always tried to save him from himself despite him showing no loyalty to them and ready to betray them on a dime.
When he finally went to far and used the King's powers to mete out justice, he was finally arrested and executed. And honestly, it's shocking he lasted so long and remained ungrateful to the end.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Plantagenet,_1st_Duke_of_Clarence
Isballe of France was a bada$$. She's smeared as she-wolf of England, but honestly she did the best she could out of the horrible situation she married.
Her husband, Edward 2, was only interested in the wellbeing of his lovers to the detriment of his office and his country and allowed them to misbehave and loot the treasury.
Isabelle had to save herself and her son. And the country. And she went about it in a way that was very clever.
Granted her tenure as Regent wasn't good and is the reason she earned the she-wolf moniker, but her husband was worse.
I'm annoyed that Matilda has been airbrushed from history and the lists of Monarchs of England. It annoys me that her usurper Stephen keeps all the glory and he didn't do anything significant in his reign besides usurp. He is so insignificant that his own bloodline wasn't kept and was succeeded by Matilda's son.
Harry has been with her everyday for ages. He knew she didn’t give up her career. He knew what she wanted and that she wasn’t going to relent. My question is how could this devious person be so successful with Harry? Was it the mischief and adventure he was craving? The allure of an *A-list* actress? Listening to Dave Grohl talk about him, he’s very polite in his words and narratives, but it comes across as a Prince who is entitled to famous people’s company who doesn’t quite fit in anywhere. Did Harry think Meghan was going to open the A-list popularity door, so the likes of Dave would be calling him to hang out versus the other way around?
There’s something so messed up between the two of them (MH) In regards to lack of achievement, stature, self-esteem, misplacement in society, but holding onto extreme egos and entitlement. Obviously, both have severe mental issues. Together they cannot function as a normal couple or family. Startup Prince Life in America is one example of how they think, out of the box and extreme, to get away with their own rules and world. It’s not working out, of course. But it all does make me wonder how these two ‘click’.
That black Tudor trumpeter in Henry 8's court was immortalised in paintings of the court, and we must remember that The Tudors were very careful about PR and what they allowed to be used in images of them.
In more modern times, the fact that Josephine Baker had to come to Europe to have a normal life in which she could be a superstar is erased in favour of the R card revision of history.
@Opus: when it comes to Victoria, i go with her black and Asian godchildren. They were sent to her as prisoners or slaves, and she immediately freed them and treated them with honours, agency, money and status equal to their rank as princ(ess). The entire establishment had to treat them as if they were her own children, and they were raised in her palaces and later as adults retained the option of living in the palaces or returning home with all the privileges they'd grown up with.
One of these godchildren, Princess Sofia duleep Singh, was very active in the Suffragette movement and was the reason Emmeline Pankhurst was able to get into the halls of power to argue the case for the cause. Sofia flexed her titles and status with the ministers of the day to help the Suffragettes. Pity that she is airbrushed from the story about the Suffragettes.
To hazard a guess in answer to your question “what does Harry know” —I think they click the way members of a teen mean girls clique comes together.
Harry already enjoyed being rude and mean and harbors low self-esteem under his arrogance, as bullies often do.
Then he meets Meghan, narcissist and longtime Mean Girl, who has no scruples. She is so vile, living out his fantasy of being a massive b**** to anyone, anytime. Like a teen loser, he eagerly joins her, and Jessica and Markus too, and they form a gang of mean kids. Now Harry feels “in” and like he is on top, beating down others at the palace and in the press with the cool kids stick, the way he never “made it” at Eton. He is just a rich titled alienated thug, who found identity in Megs’ gang,
@R_O,@DisgustedTW, That was my thought exactly, surely Megs' perusals of the Economist would have clued her in to MSB!
@Animal Lover, thank you for the Telegraph article.
@jessica,
To hazard a guess in answer to your question “what does Harry know” —I think they click the way members of a teen mean girls clique comes together.
Harry already enjoyed being rude and mean and harbors low self-esteem under his arrogance, as bullies often do.
Harry is playing out "The Low Spark Of High Heeled Boys"---
Traffic --Steve Winwood -- Recorded: September 1971, Island Studios by Chris Blackwell who Lady C was acquainted with. iirc said so in one of her videos.
The Harkles seem to be united in their insecurities & envy of those who have a perceived higher status. I don't think there's much affection between them, but Megs sure knows who her meal ticket is.
It is my hope that Megs is meeting her Waterloo the way my VP met hers: a combination of timing, the right people stepping in and stepping up, people worn to the point of a sort of fierce fearlessness, and using the connections they have to end her terror reign.
In my case, I was just 26, but I had advantage over this longtime powerful bully in unanticipated ways.
* I was joined by two strong people ready to fight, then a third and fourth in the last critical stages
* I had three standing job offers due to some work I’d done, and I confirmed that I could take the others with me if I wished
* her former boss in a previous firm was a colleague of my old boss, and was willing to share documents with our CEO that showed she had been fired for similar behavior from his team
* we got witness statements taken at the office of my kind landlord’s lawyer (my landlord was an extremely wealthy, kind man who helped lots of young artists, business people, students etc he rented or sold apartments to, like everyone’s dad. Legend. I went to him for advice; he dug around, found he knew two ex staff who had been abused by our VP too, and offered us his lawyer
* finally, a tough, young, brave fed-up staffer on our team (the day after the VP furiously stapled a designer’s hand til blood ran) came to me with a folder of all the evidence: she had elected to pretend to give in to a pushy creepy HR director who’d protected our VP ....he had been pressuring her for weeks, so she let him try it on his desk after work, recorded it, told him she recorded it, and forced him to return her handwritten abusive notes to us as he wept in terror. Another male staffer waited outside the office door for her to protect her and sprang in at the agreed upon moment so the guy had no way out.
Told you it was OTT. But, that is what it took. We were young, that angry, possibly foolish, but we prevailed.
Thus, I think an extreme news reveal like this was probably their only option, even if nuclear. I totally understand the deep emotion propelling this Kraken reveal.
Thanks for that info, will look that up.
Camilla is quoted as saying the treatment Phillip is receiving sometimes hurts. Why? What kind of treatment would it be and why would it hurt?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9320035/Prince-Philip-99-begins-second-day-specialist-cardiac-centre.html
It’s likely the bots and hired commenters she pays her PR for. Writing and planting comments for PR teams is actual paid mill work, there are bot farms and even live comment farms that hire students etc.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9321173/PIERS-MORGAN-Spare-anymore-hypocrites-Meghan-Harrys-women-empowering-victimhood-garbage.html
I hope that we are seeing the beginning of the "give herself enough rope and she will hang herself" play out for all to see.
Sweet dreams of The Kraken regurgitating Yak hair when feeding its young.
So glad I didn't get to read this last night - would have probably had a nightmare! 😅
Not sure in Philip’s case of course, but when my grandmother went through similar, she was pretty much a trouper, but did say that the IVs and monitors hurt her delicate, aging skin, bruising her arms. And that the MRI hurt her back and left her neck stiff from having to hold still. Also that the heart monitor device she had to wear was uncomfortable— but, all more in an ouch/annoyance way, versus actual pain.
Hope Philip is not dealing with more than this. Come on Philip, we are cheering you.
As for questions about PP and his heart procedures hurting I doubt he is having ablation but I wonder if he has a pace maker. Infections when you have heart (and heart failure issues) can put everything out of whack - rapid heatbeat being one of them. It can be a very unsettling feeling and maybe they are having trouble regulating that. sometimes with a pacemaker is a defibrillator that constantly reshocks the heart to get it into rhythm sometimes several times an hour that could be what Camilla is referring to. I am not a med professional but both parents had congestive heartfailure.
I find i retain the information better too.
@WBBM: Forgot, one of the most celebrated black / mixed families is the Dumas family ie Alexandra Dumas - father (Thomas-Alexander Dumas), son ( Alexander Dumas the elder) and grandson (Alexander Dumas fils).
Thomas-Alexander was born a slave in Haiti, but his French aristocratic father took him back to France where he was immediately freed because France had banned slavery within it's borders in the 14th century. He raised the boy as a regular member of his family and in due course inherited his father's Marquis title though the titles were subsequently mothballed due to the french revolution.
Being an aristocrat in France helped Thomas-Alexander gain a commission in the french army, rapidly advance to Brigadier- General and eventually lead entire French army with only the Emperor Napoleon as his superior.
This is Thomas-Alexander
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas-Alexandre_Dumas#/media/File%3AAlexandre_Dumas_(1762-1806).JPG
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas-Alexandre_Dumas
Postscript to the people who pull down statues: When the Nazis occupied Paris during WW2, they pulled down the Statue of Thomas-Alexander which had been erected in his honour in central Paris.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Statue_of_General_Thomas-Alexandre_Dumas.jpg
Alexander Dumas the Elder is best known for his literary output. His books remain favourites globally. His output includes The Three Musketeers series, The Count of Monte Cristo, The Man in the Iron Mask etc. He is lesser known for his works on the theme of race in France, travels in Europe and even a cookbook!!!
This is Dumas the elder
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Alexander_Dumas_p%C3%A8re_par_Nadar_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Dumas
Alexander Dumas the son is best known for The lady of the Camelias. He was better known as a playwrite than a novelist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Dumas_fils
This is Dumas fils
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Alexandre_Dumas_fils.jpg
Ah, I will bet anything that you’re right. I totally forgot that. Awful for her, certainly for Philip, Yes, that would be it.
@Puds,
Exactly. Even telling the story just now left me feeling sick. One night I brought three crying, shaking staff home to stay the night in my little flat as I didn’t want them on the road driving in their upset state. Looking back it seems ridiculous this hell was allowed to go on and on, for two full years before I ever got there. What would have happened had we not banded together? I hope this staff show of strength gives MM the shock of her life. I do believe much more will emerge, from many quarters. Even Canada. Harry knows he married a monster and now he must be stunned that the world knows what he supports.
That makes great sense too.
I haven't seen too much coverage of this latest blowup in the US press yet, Page 6 is the only one but it's a gossip column.
The main focus on Bien's covid stimulus and Andrew Cuomo's scandals. Maybe toward the weekend they'll be more news coverage of the Sussexes.
I'm been a reader of this blog since the beginning and use to post regularly but lost interest in the Sussexes except as a source of amusement. I came back to this blog because it has the newest information on this crazy couple. I'm at a lost as to why there is so much tension and chaos with this woman. It has to be uncomfortable to be in her skin or near her.
Thanks a big one for your description of the spoiled, ne'er do well Harry and his aligning his sorry self with the ultimate mean girl. That just says it all IMO. Kudos!
@Aqcuitaine,
Same! Huge thanks for describing Queen Victoria's relationships and respect for her POC god children and especially about Ms. Singh and her rightful place in your suffragette movement. Absolutely brilliant. Bravo! It is this sort of content that keeps me coming back to NF blog, the history, of course the freedom to kvetch about the odious pair and the fun as well! And the hopes of a Kraken, which it looks as if that dam has burst. I'm excited yet concerned for the BRF. But I am assured they have been doing them for centuries! BTW I love William and Kate and worry about them too however I love the idea that it was Wills that hung out H$M with his scarf! Thanks @Charade for that thought (I think. There was soooo much over the past 12 hours)...
@Sandie,
Yes you did put out the LSA link to the MM unappreciation2 thread. That thread is lightning fast for all the latest tea. There are so many posters that it's like a ground army of sources scouring the internet for the latest news. Your link held the Times article and a poster here posted the entire article so that's how the Kraken was unleased. Or so it appeared. Time stamps will tell how it happened if you wish to go back and check. I do agree with one poster here who said it is a bit hard to navigate but well worth the effort. I go there with caution as LSA has been in a lot of legal trouble in the past over privacy issues and doxing so caution to those who wish to get involved there. I just love the reading.
Nutties, I am going back into reading mode as I feel I am not seasoned enough to contribute at this Kraken time. I congratulate all of you oldies (vs. us newbies) in getting the tea out as well as you do! You ladies are badasses and I salute every one of you. I will be glued to the blog for the latest yet I don't want to steer us off course so have fun and let's roll!!!
One final thought: sounds like your old boss was an Anna Wintour type, like the movie The Devil Wears Prada!
I feel for you. I worked with a woman just as you described but I was older and I just watched as she eventually hung herself with her narc behavior. I can't even imagine the hell if she was the boss. Oy...
I thoroughly enjoy your posts! :)
forgive my sarcasim..but its not easy being a prince. for Gods sakes..........people are starving out there. in this pandemic year....not enough food . lost their homes ..were evicted from their apartments....some lost loved ones to covid...please!!! this is not worthy news...and i m a big fan of you guys at cnn. this is the celebrity garbage..and nothing more...IT WAS a smart move getting out of that family and all the arrogance, smugness. the elitiest pompous attitude of the so called 'royals' .........but now we are expected to treat this couple as special elevated people..in their status. i think not. LETS GET ON CNN...SOME DOCTOR OR NURSE...who saved someones life this year of the covid. this is a joke....i do not care what these people do..i wish them well in life...but its just becoming cnn the national enquirer here....please guys...are you running out of stories..?
Good on you for protecting a bullied colleague. I wish I'd had you in my corner when I was bullied. Everyone hated my bully but was too scared/weak to say or do anything.
There are so many interesting posts to read, & I lose time because I keep switching back & forth from posting to reading. The posting page on my screen has such tiny print that I have to return to the original page to read the posts of others. I so enjoy the additional information that posters bring from their own knowledge & experience.
I won’t watch the Harkles/ Oprah interview, I avoid all of their thirsty self promotion because I dont want to give them the clicks/ ‘eyeballs’/ ratings. But do look forward to reading a transcript of their whiny BS after the fact.
Both are insufferable. Every day any sympathy I ever had for ‘Just call me Harry ‘ drops further and I hope he never returns to the BRF, even after the divorce. He has treated his BRF family horribly. (just like MM treated hers horribly).
and i find it very hard to believe MM and Eugenie are still ‘very close’. they may have had courtesy pregnancy texts but thats probaby it!
I prefer honest battle axes like Ann Widdecombe. Her instant reaction to the engagement was `She's trouble.' I wonder what she knew?
I suspect that the FF authors are the source of this PR.
The article says that Eugenie is the only member of the BRF that Meghan remains close to. I doubt that Meghan was close to anyone in Harry's family, ever.
I wonder what Eugenie feels about being used for Meghan PR, especially with the release of the information of her and Harry bullying staff. Those stories are not new, but what is new is that their behaviour was escalated to HR level but nothing was done (other than split the staff and foundation and get the Harkles moved out of KP and various efforts to assist staff who resigned), and Harry tried to make it all go away (begged) with no action taken.
The problem with Meghan trying to turn this into a BP smear campaign is twofold: the leaks are not coming from BP but from KP and CH; Meghan did leave a trail in America of just this kind of behaviour.
Why is Meghan going after the Queen (BP)? Or are her and her PR machine still too stupid and self-centred to understand how the monarchy works?
Anyway, just some thoughts here. I’m surprised she’s still trucking along. Oprah will be contrived for both their benefit and will dress up Meghan’s *efforts* in US as larger than they are.
“ Harry already enjoyed being rude and mean and harbors low self-esteem under his arrogance, as bullies often do.
Then he meets Meghan, narcissist and longtime Mean Girl, who has no scruples. She is so vile, living out his fantasy of being a massive b**** to anyone, anytime. Like a teen loser, he eagerly joins her, and Jessica and Markus too, and they form a gang of mean kids. Now Harry feels “in” and like he is on top, beating down others at the palace and in the press with the cool kids stick, the way he never “made it” at Eton. He is just a rich titled alienated thug, who found identity in Megs’ gang,”
Thank you. This makes a lot of sense. Harry, desperate to fit in somewhere, found his crew who let him behave however he wants without rule. Easily compromised individual. When I really think about it, sadly it does seem even though he is of age to make his own decisions BP failed him, by not keeping Meghan at bay. Some people need to be protected and are susceptible to bad influence. It was probably hard for BP to imagine that he could be so opposite of a presentable ‘Royal’.
The trial was stopped by the request for a SJ. Warby found in favour of Meghan on the issue of breach of copyright and invasion of privacy.
I think Meghan dropped her claim of sole copyright ownership, so there is no need for a hearing to sort that out. If I am wrong, she is going to be slaughtered!
The outstanding matters are:
A final order on costs. Meghan is claiming a huge amount and the court needs to check this. She was granted an initial payment to her lawyers within two weeks, but a lesser amount than what she asked for.
Warby has not ruled on all of Meghan's demands (apology and details of what, where, how, and so on). She has also demanded a share of ANL's profits.
Warby has not ruled on the data protection claim. Meghan may have dropped this claim ... I am not sure.
There is supposed to be a hearing to argue about and decide on personal damages. I think Meghan has dropped her initial outrageous demands to a nominal amount. Since Knauf at least is recognized as also having copyright over the letter it mystifies me that Meghan was allowed to present demands of what she wanted but Knauf was not given a say at all. If I am wrong on this point, then Meghan is completely deluded to think that arguing victimhood and demanding a huge payout is a good idea.
Meghan and her lawyers had to shut it all down to stop ANL from presenting the evidence they had gathered and to stop anyone from testifying, because it would be so damaging for her and because she is a liar.
I prefer honest battle axes like Ann Widdecombe. Her instant reaction to the engagement was `She's trouble.' I wonder what she knew?
I think that anybody that has ever dealt with somebody with a major personality order can instantly recognize the malady again in others. I think that she knew from prior experience.
We want more malice
From you lot at The Palace
Leading up to
The Interview
With the Big Bad O
Who put the Os
In MOtecitO
Though in Hawaii
She now dwells
With other rich Haole swells
Isolating
With her Covid paranoia
Flying in only (on her own private jet of course) (hypocrisy has no limits) (we are onto you)
When the money is right
As Megsy's upcoming fright night
Where she hopes to dump
On "racist" Palace meanies
For her 12 YO tweenies
Greys- Please
We need your heat
To pop our popcorn
To eat
Well seems like William Arthur Philip Louis has decided to let some PR slip! It has to be him or Charles. Permission to release these types of articles would have to be given by one or both men. Charles does not have the stomach for it, but at this point, he is not going to object. I think they finally realize that Meghan is out for blood, out to destroy them and their birthright. I am positive that Camilla counsels Charles and tells him what we've talked about earlier, that Meghan is abusively manipulating Harry. So Charles is now going along with these efforts to defend their family.
Magatha- Loved the 'Scarfing' poem.
I have always believed that Melissa Tabouti was one of Meghan's first victims. Melissa was very attractive, competent and vivacious. Meghan clearly knew she wasn't going to keep Melissa around but Melissa was popular within the Royal Family, plus Meghan probably needed her to get through the wedding. Agree with others that pointed out how the RF put out a very nice statement on Melissa which was highly unusual. I am sure that statement absolutely infuriated Meghan.
In my opinion, Meghan can only work with men and women who are not attractive and who are submissive. Sorry if that sounds mean, but facts are facts.
Come on Melissa..........spill the beans. I am sure she will not out of respect for the RF but I sure wish she would.
Now cueing up The Allman's "Sweet Mellissa"
This is Mellissa's prime time to spill
To Melissa Toubati--
Don't boot this
_________________
Meghan Markle's personal assistant 'quit after being reduced ...https://www.thesun.co.uk › news › meghan-markle-perso...
Meghan Markle's personal assistant 'quit after being reduced to tears by Duchess of Sussex's demands'. Melissa Toubati, 39, sensationally resigned just six ...
We need Melissa T at this hour
To send M/H to The Tower
This statement is not helpful and would make anyone on the receiving end of bullying feel worthless. It's as if they're making light of it. I hope no member of staff she bullied at KP reads it, they would be devastated.
I think the tweet must have been removed, I can't see it on their Twitter account.
https://the-cat-with-the-emerald-tiara.tumblr.com/
Like a teen loser, he eagerly joins her, and Jessica and Markus too, and they form a gang of mean kids. Now Harry feels “in” and like he is on top, beating down others at the palace and in the press with the cool kids stick, the way he never “made it” at Eton. He is just a rich titled alienated thug, who found identity in Megs’ gang.
This is an astute observation about Harry. Exactly.
I awoke early this morning before my alarm and after scrolling through this blog to see what came in overnight, I watched a brief video on YouTube about the Harry-Chelsy relationship and why it went bad. I had read (erroneously) in other sources that the two met at the same secondary school but it was actually in 2004 during Harry's gap year stint in South Africa. Chels' dad was at one time the largest private landowner in Zimbabwe (Rhodesia as was), and she was educated at top schools in England. I think the story told by both of Harry's longest-term exes, Chelsy and Cressida Bonas, that they just realized that they couldn't cope with the spotlight of Royal life was a polite fiction to protect Harry's image. No idea if these sentiments were genuinely their own, or if they were crafted at the, um, encouragement of the Palace, in order to shield Harry's real vile character from the public. Neither of these girls whom he professed to love (he proposed marriage to Chelsy at one point, IIRC more than once) called him out as a misogynistic racist bully who physically and verbally abused people, had a foul temper, was an entitlist cheap-ass prat and an epically inattentive boyfriend who was serially unfaithful and usually chose getting wasted with his mates over spending time with his girlfriend. In Chelsy's case, she applied to a graduate program in Leeds expressly so she could be based in England full-time and see more of Harry .. and shortly afterwards they broke up for the first time. After her was Cressida, who likewise said the line 'Royal life isn't for me' after two years of dating. Chelsy was not a public figure, despite coming from such a wealthy family, but she went on to become a barrister, which does not indicate a fragile personality who can't cope with pressure. Cressida is an actress and a model, also from an aristocratic family, and I think would have also been up to the public aspects of a Royal role. Being an actress and a camera-savvy pro was Meg's biggest selling point, apart from her black mother . .so we thought.
But the bully must have had a secret, even unconscious, need to be dominated and humiliated himself and he's found the lid for his stewpot of psychic misery in Meghan. Harry may be an abuse victim, but evidently, he likes it. Keeps sticking around for more. My question is . . Harry enjoys joining Meghan in her games and joins her in spouting off against the 'evil British media that killed my Mum' and the insidious 'Men in Grey' whose mission in life it was to curtail his freedoms--but did Harry really and truly realize just how far this would go? He's not just dissing 'the courtiers' now . . he is openly abusing his nonagenarian grandparents on the world stage. Is there any internal sense at all that he's gone much too far, or is that internal gauge (ie, the conscience) broken? Was it ever operational?
'I have always believed that Melissa Tabouti was one of Meghan's first victims. Melissa was very attractive, competent and vivacious.'
...........
There you have it! Megalo must have been threatened by someone more competent than herself. This is how bullies bully.
'Bullies cannot distinguish between leadership, management and bullying', from bullying.co.uk. Do read the sections called 'deceptiveness' and 'manipulative' - that's Meg to a T.
Also, bullies are compulsive liars. I think we can safely say Mega has form in this department.
@Hikari- Meghan's ego wanted Chelsea and Cressida at the wedding. She relished in it!
Shortly after the wedding, we started hearing that Meghan had Harry on a diet, not drinking, doing yoga, etc. She immediately put him in the place she wanted him.
MM IMHO does not care what the British people think about her. Her target audience in mainly in the USA.
If Goop can make bank selling vagina candles and similar items, I'm sure there is a market for MM if she has a product to sell. However, her audience may not be as large as she wants.
Harry is a different story. His life may be a tragedy.
On the other hand, he has allowed all of this to take place. It's his fault for allowing this all to happen, regardless of what abuse he suffers. If Harry was the woman and Meghan the man, I am sure people would see this all very differently.
Oh and yes, Americans fall for the 'breaking free' narrative very easily. Meghan is banking on it.
I prefer honest battle axes like Ann Widdecombe. Her instant reaction to the engagement was `She's trouble.' I wonder what she knew?
I think that anybody that has ever dealt with somebody with a major personality order can instantly recognize the malady again in others. I think that she knew from prior experience.
@WBBM: Ding, ding, ding! You are so correct. When I was younger and had to deal with people like Meghan, which included people in my family and people I encountered outside of my family, I just figured they were mean jerks.
But after learning about personality disorders and the behaviors that are common with each disorder, I can spot these people from a mile away. You don’t even have to have personal experience with them because like people playing poker, once you become a student of behavior, it is easy to spot a the “tells” that give them away as someone affected by a personality disorder.
Prior to the engagement, I wasn’t paying much attention to Harry and Meghan or the royals in general. I follow news, so would occasionally see items when they popped up in the news here in the States.
But then I saw the photo call in the garden and watched the BBC engagement interview and as the narc-alert alarm bells went off in my mind, I thought, “Whoa! That chick’s probably a narc!!” I was stunned and knew that Harry had probably been caught up in the snare of a woman with probable full-blown case of narcissistic personality disorder.
It has been sad, but at the same time fascinating to watch their relationship play out on the world stage in the British Royal Family no less supplying the highest grade of narcissistic fuel possible to Meghan’s narcissism. With that kind of fuel, it’s no wonder she has run wild through the monarchy and Harry’s life.
This will not end well on multiple fronts, and the fear of her by HMTQ and Charles has made a bad situation worse due to their inaction and kid glove approach to Meghan’s destructive ways. The longer they dither, the worse it will be, so I hope they go nuclear with her and Harry. The Sussexes are an infestation, and Meghan is the head of the infestation. Harry is just the follower. They need to squish her like a cockroach.
The timing of bullying allegations could not be worse for Brand Harry and Meghan
Allegations that the Duchess of Sussex faced bullying complaints while a working Royal appear at odds with the couple's 'kindness' agenda
By
Camilla Tominey,
ASSOCIATE EDITOR
3 March 2021 • 12:34pm
It was the marmalade dropper that took the world by surprise.
Allegations that the Duchess of Sussex faced several bullying complaints from members of her staff during her time as working Royal appear completely at odds with Harry and Meghan’s “compassion and kindness” agenda.
As a spokesman for the former Suits star put it: “The Duchess is saddened by this latest attack on her character, particularly as someone who has been the target of bullying herself and is deeply committed to supporting those who have experienced pain and trauma.
"She is determined to continue her work building compassion around the world and will keep striving to set an example for doing what is right and doing what is good."
Yet the suggestion that the 39-year-old drove two personal assistants out of the household and undermined the confidence of a third employee certainly does not sit comfortably with Meghan’s suggestion, to be aired on Sunday night’s Oprah interview, that her time in the Royal family was “almost unsurvivable”
For while the Duchess claims to have been “silenced”, so too, seemingly were the women who made the allegations to the couple’s then communications secretary, Jason Knauf, who submitted the formal complaint about the claims in October 2018.
In his email, he is alleged to have said: "I am very concerned that the Duchess was able to bully two PAs out of the household in the past year. The treatment of X was totally unacceptable. The Duchess seems intent on always having someone in her sights. She is bullying Y and seeking to undermine her confidence. We have had report after report from people who have witnessed unacceptable behaviour towards Y."
It is significant that the claims have surfaced not only out of concern for the accuracy of the Sussexes’ narrative, but also amid suggestions the palace could have handled the matter better.
Sources reportedly expressed concern that nothing was done at the time to investigate the situation, and nothing had been done since to protect staff against the possibility of bullying by a member of the Royal family. One is quoted as saying: "The institution just protected Meghan constantly. All the men in grey suits who she hates have a lot to answer for, because they did absolutely nothing to protect people."
The signs that something was very amiss at Kensington Palace were plain to see after Harry and Meghan married at Windsor Castle in May 2018.
The atmosphere became so testy that the Cambridges chose to accelerate the proposed split between the two households. The Sussexes were left feeling very put out when their request to establish their own “court” at Frogmore Cottage, their new Windsor home, was rejected by the Queen and Prince Charles in favour of them coming under the auspices of Buckingham Palace. It was said at the time that the 94-year-old monarch and the heir to the throne felt Harry and Meghan were increasingly “operating in a silo” and needed careful guidance.
This, in turn, deepened the tensions between the two royal brothers and their wives, with the Sussexes resenting the fact that the Cambridges were able to operate completely independently of either Buckingham Palace or Clarence House thanks to their seniority in the royal pecking order. The rising acrimony between the so-called heir and the spare was exacerbated by alleged conflicts between the Sussexes and the staff they jointly shared with William and Kate.
According to one well-placed insider: “Both of the Dukes were not getting along anyway but the staffing problems left Harry, particularly, in a very difficult position.
“There was a sense that he was caught in a conflict between long-standing employees and his new wife’s way of doing things.
“He really tried to smooth things over and staff were grateful for that. They never had any problem with the Duke directly.”
It was around the time of the alleged bullying complaint that reports started emerging of a “culture clash” between Meghan’s “celebrity” way of doing things, and the palace old guard.