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What Oprah will ask the Sussexes - and what I would ask them

Supposedly Oprah's interview with the Sussexes is already recorded, which is too bad, because I have plenty of questions I would have suggested. 

Oprah will no doubt offer her standard questions - Are you living your best life? - plus some setups on the social justice theme she and the Sussexes are so fond of. 

Do you think your negative media coverage in the UK was motivated by racism?  

Tell us about your long-term commitment to environmentalism/Grenfell victims/menstrual health/COVID victims/Black History Month/Mayhew Dogs/Girls in South Africa/SmartWorks fashion/Indigenous Women in Canada. 

Also, I hear you really like Africa and have visited twice. Is that part of your anti-racism initiative, and how will you continue to propel your efforts in Africa while living in a big house in California?

Oprah has her own initiative in Africa, a school for girls near Johannesberg that has been plagued by abuse allegations, so she is comfortable with the idea of assisting Africa and Africans from the comfort of her own homes in California and Hawaii. 

A few abstract questions

I also expect a few big, abstract puffball questions from Oprah. 

What does privacy mean to you? What is the biggest misunderstanding about you? What type of mother do you want to be? What makes you sad? Whom do you trust?

Since Oprah has a rather mixed relationship with her own family - Oprah's mother spent so much money in one of Milwaukee's ritziest boutiques that Oprah actually instructed the proprietor to stop selling to her - we can also expect some sympathy about Meghan's strange family situation.

What I would do

A good interview generally starts on a comforting note. I'm here to hear your side of the story. 

A journalist who has time on her side (not someone interviewing a busy cop on the street, for example), generally wins over the trust of her subject by emphasizing what they agree on and what they have in common. It's wonderful to see you here. I'm so glad you've discovered this lovely area of Santa Monica. It's our little secret, but now you share our secret. 

If the subject is burning to say something, like "We can all live a life of service. Service is universal", it's a good idea to let them say it, because otherwise they won't be able to concentrate on anything else. Let them get it out, nod a lot to show you've listened to them. You can even go so far as to repeat it back to them. So, you feel that everyone can live a life of service. We all can. You're saying that it's universal.  

This makes the subject feel validated and much more comfortable. They've said what they've come here to say. 

At this point, you can start to turn up the temperature.

The difficult questions

Mid-interview is the time for difficult questions. I like to slowly slide into them, building on the rapport that I've built up in the interview so far, sometimes even using the subject's own language. You've said that service is universal, but you didn't want to serve on the Royal Family's terms, did you? Didn't you know what those terms were before you were married? 

You want to ask difficult questions, but not in a harsh manner that will cause your subject to stand up and walk out on you, or your audience to conclude that you are bullying the subject and turn agains you out of sympathy. 

If you have something negative to say, it's always useful to attribute to those thoughts to others, perhaps abstract figures like "some people" or "your critics".

Some people say that you seem to be dominating your husband, that you've taken him away from his friends, his family, his country, and his job - isolated him - and that he looks lost and unhappy. What would you say to those people?

The toughest question

The toughest question represents the high point of the interview, the point at which your subject is hopefully too committed to walk out, and the point at which you can answer the one question everyone really wants to know.

I'd ease into this if I were the one interviewing Meghan.

Privacy is important to you, isn't it? Especially when it concerns the people you love. (Give her a chance to nod or respond here, perhaps use up the paragraphs about privacy she has practiced in advance). 

Was it because of this need for privacy that there were so many unusual aspects to the birth of your first child? You concealed the due date, you concealed the place and time of birth, you kept the attending doctors secret, the name of the godparents are secret, and you were very slow to share images of the child. Why?

At this point, Meghan would probably stumble a bit, perhaps try to repeat her practiced paragraph about privacy, maybe smile and giggle in an attempt to be charming.

I would then go in for the kill.

Is the reason there's so much secrecy because your child was born to a surrogate, and you do not currently have custody of the child?

The long silence 

Not expecting this question, Meg would presumably not know what to say. Biting her lip, perhaps. 

This is when a good journalist uses silence as a tool. 

Just wait and sit until the subject comes up with some answer, any answer.

Back in journalism school, we used to study how Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes did this. The toughest question, silence, tight focus on the subject's face to catch any microexpressions. Blinking, touching nose, looking away.

Meg might say, "We just don't feel the public has a right to this child," but her tone and timbre will be revealing.

Following the tough question

The surest sign of a nonprofessional reporter is someone who doesn't use a juicy answer to a previous question to build the follow-up question. 

(Celebrity non-journalist interviewers are notorious for this: they have prewritten questions 1-5, and darned if prewritten question 4 isn't going to follow prewritten question 3, even if the answer to Question 3 is a murder confession).

In this case, I'd probably say, If the public doesn't have a right to this child, why is he in line for the British throne? Shouldn't you remove him from the line of succession? Part of being a British Royal is being visible to the British public."

"We don't want to make decisions for him," Meg might say. "We don't think it's up to us to renounce his heritage."

But how much British heritage will he have? I would ask.  He lives in the US. How can he possibly understand British culture and British values? How could he ever lead the British people if called upon? He will be, quite frankly, a foreigner.

More silence, until she comes up with some answer, any answer.

Cooling down

After a run of tense questions, it's a good idea to calm down a bit with some nice positive talk that will put your subject at ease. 

Tell me more about Archie. Is he more like you, or more like his father? Is he looking forward to being a big brother? What are your hopes and dreams for your children?

If you have a very long interview, you can go through several rounds of this, tense to relaxed, tense to relaxed. 

But you always want to be able to end on relaxed if you can, so you can at least have the fiction that you and your subject ended as friends. (You never know when you might need that subject's co-operation on something else in the future.)

In this case, Harry will come in for the final half hour, and we'll get a little more social justice chatter plus some softball questions like What do you love about each other?

It'll all be fascinating. 

Comments

AnT said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis,

I like the way you're thinking this out! Never thought of that --- but yes, I can totally imagine Megs finding Harry was talking to Chelsy via text, email or phone, and now using her term "Haz" to needle him. If it is true that Markus is staying with them, I can imagine the two of them continually gossiping, and pranking and spying on Harry, actually, in a sort of idiot-teen way. Throw the potentially deviant "Food" terminology use in with all that. Harry brought this on himself, but I also feel a tiny sliver of pity for him because while he may be a evil pouting jerk, he is now playing poker with what seem to be Satan's top graduates.
AnT said…
@Puds,

if they are playing games, my question would be why. Because they are immature rude idiots pushing 40? Or because they are drumming up Soho business in code, the way bikini photos of new and old starlets in the DM are said to be used? My guess is they are just rank idiots, but, who knows.

Just looked at the Archewell site via Lipstick Alley. The Harkles have the nerve to speak about compassion? I'm not going to bother to list the ways they have been so very uncompassionate toward both of their families, but the list is extremely long. Very few people are fooled by them anymore. Just a few young, and not too bright, members of the Sussex Squad, which are mostly bots.
@AnT,

Thanks! I don't feel sorry at all for Harry. He knows what he is doing is wrong, and he continues to do it without any remorse or regret for what he's put his family, three countries and the world through by his childish antics. It's exhausting just listening to him, a guy who has failed at everything he tried to do. He's also not looked closely at his own actions toward his elderly grandparents and the Markle family, which are reprehensible.

Now, it's no longer, "what Meghan wants, Meghan gets." He also believes that what Harry wants, Harry gets, with no apparent limits as to how he goes about getting what he wants.
@Ant,

Sorry, everybody, for so many posts in a row.

AnT,

Let's look at his a bit closer. I know what you mean about the DM and its reputation as a place to "advertise". I'm being cautious in my phrasing here. What if SoHo House is not in the picture, and The Harkles now have a new side hustle? Are you catching my drift? Mudslide Manor is quite large for three people, and all of those rooms are available.

Maneki Neko said…
@ConstantGardener

Sorry to hear about your aunt. This shows how serious a UTI can be. Take care x
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

I missed your post at 7.43pm and realise now I posted the same abt the mail for the Sussexes 10 minutes later. I try to check before I post!
Sandie said…
@Maneki Neko

No worries! It is interesting though ... the timeline.

I wonder if the Sussexes will realize that they are not victims, and to look within to find the source of the problem.
Sandie wonders "if the Sussexes will realize that they are not victims, and to look within to find the source of the problem."

Not a hope, Hell will freeze over before a narc thinks something's their own fault.
Pantsface said…
So is the Marcus thing anything to do with Torontopaper1 twitter account? To be honest I don't know what to think of TP or sidekick dripdrop, it's all a bit odd
@Pantsface

Lots of speculation about TP over the years. One theory is that the account involves more than one person (suggestions have included Cory, Jess, Marcus, etc). Who knows?

Is it real or a very clever troll? Who knows?

DripDrop was originally thought to be a Moroccan prince as some tweets seemed to indicate insider knowledge. Later tweets included the QAnon inspired Democrats eat babies at a pizza parlor kind of tosh and was assumed to be a troll after that.

But who knows? Maybe its Princess Anne having a spot of fun.....
Pantsface said…
lol @ Princess Anne :) I've dipped in and out of TP over the last couple of years and I am no futher forward to ascertain whether serious or a troll - prior to the pizzagate he/she seemed to be genuine other than the locked up in the towers rubbish - I think I have answered my own questions :) please ignore!
Miggy said…
@Sandie said:

Thanks for the notice that there is a new Lady C video. I will watch, but with a lot more caution. In her last video she claimed to have insider knowledge that Prince Phillip has a urinary tract infection. Wrong! Turns out it is an infection in a joint (but it is not divulged which one), hence the long stay in hospital.

Can I ask where you read that please... and do you have a link to the article?



Hikari said…
Prayers for Philip. Septic arthritis sounds extremely painful. I am not so sure Being in hospital would shield him from having to hear and see the antics of his bonehead grandson and the grasping bunt. There is very little else to do well laid up in hospital except watch the television, so God only knows what he’s had to look at. They are all over the papers too, But perhaps those can be curated. Palace equerries Or on orders to surgically exercise any Harkle nonsense from paper is received by the Duke of Edinburgh and brought to the hospital.

Re. Harry’s nickname

It’s always been my understanding that Harry has been Hazza or Haz since secondary school where he and Chelsy were classmates and friends for years before they started dating. It wasn’t really a pet name exclusive to her because everyone called him that; when he moved onto Eton he continued To be called Hazza by all his mates on the rugby team—Skippy & Co. The -zza moniker is a posh schoolboy tradition Which I assume is meant to be an imitation of the chavvy kids and provide “cool” cred. Laurence Fix goes by Lozza. I’ve also heard “Shezza”, and I’m sure there are many other examples. So as usual Markle takes credit for being completely original, when she is the latest party on this bandwagon. Her originality in naming rights to “TrevityTrevTrev’. Nuff said.
Pantsface said…
Am I the only person who can't view Lady C's youtube videos? I'm sure there are nuggets of interest in there, but find the rest really tedious that I lose interest - big thumbs up to those that endure it all and find those moments of inerest x
Miggy said…
LOL 😄😅😆

Prince who? Americans shown this photo of Harry mistake him for a country singer, TV newsman or a wanted crook... and one who did recognise him called him Harris!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9307817/Prince-Americans-shown-photo-Harry-mistake-country-singer.html
Maneki Neko said…
@Miggy

I was about to post the same and checked just in case someone had already posted it!

A few replies from people shown Harry's photo:

’If Harry decides to reinvent himself in anonymity, he could move to Taft, a fading community of 10,000 about 100 miles north of his new home in Montecito, California.


'Who is that?' said Annalise Wills, 23. 'I've no idea.' Former teacher George Peabody, 74, remarked: 'I think I saw him on a 'Wanted' poster at the post office. Or is he one of Donald Trump's kids?'

Home-maker Victoria Pirpour, 29, shook her head. 'No idea,' she said. 'I think he's a basketball player, but I've no idea what team he's on.'

Glenda Bonds, 56, said confidently: 'He's an actor. I don't know his name, but I've seen a lot of movies, and I know I've seen him.'

Phillip Johnson, 82, knew better: 'He looks familiar – is he a TV anchor? I watch Fox News all the time, I think he's one of them.'

If Harry decides to reinvent himself in anonymity, he could move to Taft, a fading community of 10,000 about 100 miles north of his new home in Montecito, California. 'Who is that?' said Annalise Wills, 23, who is pictured above. 'I've no idea'
If Harry decides to reinvent himself in anonymity, he could move to Taft, a fading community of 10,000 about 100 miles north of his new home in Montecito, California. 'Who is that?' said Annalise Wills, 23, who is pictured above. 'I've no idea'

Two thousand miles away in the cornfields of Ohio, residents of London, a rural enclave of 10,000, were similarly nonplussed.

'He's not been in my shop that I know of,' mused Mike Michael, 65, owner of the London Coffee Peddler.

'If you're not buyin' my coffee or bringin' in a bike to fix, I tend not to care.'

Paige Gammell, 21, at the Vallery Farmhouse Bakery, couldn't place Harry's face until she learned he was from Britain. 'Is he the King or something? Or Prince Charles? Or Henry?'

😂😂😂
Nelo said…
I can see the DM is really trolling Harry. That piece about people not recognizing him will really hurt him.
Miggy said…
@Maneki,

Waiting for the comment section to grow. I'm sure there'll be some crackers! 😄😅😆
AnT said…
@MagathaMistie,

I am finally checking up with posts after random reading.

I would like to say that I am so sorry about the tragic circumstances of your first husband’s demise. I agree, those young soldiers, what they experience... and yet I feel certain that soldier was also proud to stand as guardian for your husband at that end time. My father was a soldier, eventually a Sergeant, and once mentioned that even in terrible circumstances, you stay with a lost brother soldier in kinship, honor, and a kind of uniquely meaningful support “from this side to that”. A true bond, even in such sadness. Your husband had that.
❤️
JennS said…
**Puds said...
@ cat lady 1649, AnT, Hikari, Jenns and others, So Avocado toast has a place in the Urban dictionary as well! There is a source saying Megs was not given final editing on the Oprah interview, Jenns you will have to look out for any odd words Megs uses, if she does then it looks like they could get caught.
..........................

Yes, I will watch for any odd choices of words. And I will have it recorded on my DVR in order to go over it more thoroughly if necessary!
📼🎥📺🎥📺🎥📼

I just proved an interesting theory though.
After reading your post it occurred to me that there may be a lot of 'normal' words that have offensive alternate meanings in the Urban Dictionary.

So just for kicks, I looked up a series of random words - all kitchen gadgets and wild animals to reflect Harry's weird references to a crocodile and waffle maker.

Almost every single word I looked up was listed in the Urban Dictionary with a gross sexual and/or bodily function definition!!

Here are the words I checked and found disgusting alternate definitions for:
rhinoceros
antelope
giraffe
teapot
toaster oven
rolling pin

I don't know who writes these weird offensive definitions but there is a chance that Harry's choice of words was just a coincidence and not related to the Urban Dictionary. It's something to keep in mind anyway.
What do other Nutties think?
Miggy said…
Also doing some catching up...

@Magatha, Saddened to hear about the tragic death of your first husband.

@ConstantGardener33, condolences for the loss of your dear aunt.

Sending virtual hugs to you both (((( HUGS ))))


Miggy said…
@JennS,

What do other Nutties think?

I think it's a coincidence.
lizzie said…
@Miggy asked for a link to an article about PP's joint infection...

Yesterday someone posted here that DM had reported it was a joint infection. She didn't provide a link. I could almost swear I googled and found a DM article. In fact, I THOUGHT I saw other articles reporting that same "update" from the Palace. But when I look now, I can find nothing. So maybe that info wasn't supposed to be released or maybe it was wrong? So its been scrubbed? Or maybe it's still there and I can't find it but the original poster has a link?

Prayers for PP regardless.
luxem said…
@JennS I think the Harkles wanted maximum publicity and knew if he threw in a few unbelievable stories, it would create clickbait headlines and intriguing sound bites. Haz is boring. And, when was the last time a James Corden interview got worldwide publicity? They knew what they were doing and it worked. We are well aware of their games now...
Miggy said…
@Lizzie,

Thanks!

I could only find mention of PP having an 'infection' in all the articles I'd scoured, so was wondering if perhaps I'd missed the mention of an infected joint.

Hoping @Sandie may have a link.

That said, at his age any infection is serious. Wishing him a speedy recovery.
JennS said…
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Miggy said…
@Puds,

I don't believe for one moment that Archie's first word was crocodile!

As for the urban dictionary and the meaning to the words they've used... well I know they're stupid... but to play a risky game like that would be foolish even for them!
AnT said…
@JennS,

Like Miggy, I think it is just a coincidence that SOME of the choice pushed Harkle words have lewd, crude meanings. I think though that some of their pushed words we’re used for the worst possible meaning.

However, joining you in the interest of scientific research, I looked up the following, and......😳....such meanings!

Duchess
Actress
Polo
Harkle
Scobie

..

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SwampWoman said…
I think that the writing about and conjecturing about PP's ailment is all guesswork and gossip. The people that really know aren't telling. Lady C's source could well be telling her what he/she heard because gossip isn't indulged in just by the vulgar lower classes (grin). PP's people may be spreading disinformation to keep private what he really is suffering from. Maybe it is a life-threatening or, indeed, a life-ending complication and he doesn't want people's pity or sympathy.
Miggy said…
@AnT,

Best you don't look up ARCHIE!!! 😲
Miggy said…
@puds,

I like @ Luxems response that they court controversy to guarantee press coverage. People are talking about Archie saying Crocodile as his first word but it also could mean Harry is telling porkie pies in public if Archies actual words were Da, Dog and Book and that's not a good look for businessman Harry and his new bosses.

Agree!!
JennS said…
@AnT
I need to take a little nap now 💤💤😴
but will look up those words when I wake up!!!
I do think there is really something weird about crocodile. Too big of a word and thrown out at us without any context. Does Snarchie have a toy croc? Did he just see one on the TV? Does his momma look like one? I mean, WTH??🤣🤣🤣💤💤
AnT said…
@MagathaMistie,

Will this give you a smile? Speaking of churches.....I was raised as a Catholic. My baptism took place about three months after I was born, on a cold early winter day. Three other babies were being baptized as well. My mother’s elegant older sister, in her best dove gray city suit, silk, and pearls was my godmother, my father’s dapper brother-in-law my godfather. All was going nicely until it came to me.

The priest smiled down at me in my aunt’s arms and said, what a big baby! (I was nearly 10 lbs at birth). I let out a scream, a whoop, turned red, my lace hat flew off, I kicked off my booties, and still bellowing, whalloped the priest in the nose as he leaned down trying to help my struggling aunt. I socked him again, I heaved around so hard, my big embroidered Christening blanket (handmade by nuns my grandmother knew) slid and my aunt tripped on the hem and fell into my uncle who half caught me so I was stretched out between them like a big pastry,

The priest clutched his face and bellowed No! And my aunt and uncle hurried me out to an anteroom. There I returned to smiling serenely. My intrepid mother, always stubborn and determined, ran out to a car and returned with a pillow she kept in a case in the back seat in case my brother was ever sleepy on a long road trip. They wrapped the pillow in my embroidered blanket, stepped outside to take smiling, waving photos. They later drove to the big family christening lunch my grandmother had prepared at her home and told tale.

My uncle and father, laughing, told this story to me years later when I was about ten as we looked at a photo album. My aunt added her part, my mom her part. They explained that was why I looked like a parcel of laundry instead of a baby.

“So when did I get baptized for real, then?” I asked, being a pert little catechism class kid.

Oh, they just begged the priest, and —he cleaned his split lip, and baptized the pillow after everyone else left. He refused to baptize me! So this was the best they could do, you see.

Me = 😳

“Well, it was a very GOOD down pillow,” explained my mother.

AnT said…
@JennS,

Oh, I think Crocodile, and roast chicken were used for sly, childish shock value and code. Just not sure about waffle? That one sounds like classic Harkle tall tale stupidity. But who knows! Honestly, I could probably be persuaded to believe that one too.

Have a good nap! 🛌🧸
AnT said…
@Miggy,

Ha! So I just looked up Archie, since you said that!

Well, I love that it includes “secretive” !
Elsbeth1847 said…
Another plot twist

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9307953/Prince-William-kept-dark-Harry-Meghans-bombshell-Oprah-interview.html

PW not as close to the HAMS as the PR says and that there are no limits to what could come out of the Oprah interview. (oh, my. More dashing about in all directions about how close they still are to the BRF and some pushing that they still have major tea to spill in the interview).

If there is anything supposedly major to come out, how likely would any of us be to believe it any more than claims of no one showing sympathy on the SA trip while surrounded by such poverty?

(Lady C videos - I like her stuff too but in really small doses but can't do a long video either.)
Thank you, everyone, for you kind words. We miss her a lot. She was healthy and active, and the infection kind of came out of nowhere. Everything was quite sudden. When I see infections like PP's hanging around, it is worrisome.
AnT said…
@Puds,

My mother put the pillow in her big cedar-lined hope chest, with the Christening robes, etc. Since it was blessed!

I still have it. Just in case! 💕
Did I miss something?

Grip and her constant whining about "R" in the UK (and USA).

Its Black History Month and not a single, solitary, PSA or article or ..... about it from her. Or Oprah.

Really hard to take her claims seriously when she can't be bothered to show support for BHM.

She never has. (Has Oprah?????)
@Puds, thank you. We had been making plans to get together this summer, then this happened and 3 weeks later she was gone. The MDs threw everything they had at it, and it still wasn't enough. I fear for Prince Philip, if he does indeed have an infection.
@AnT, that is a wonderful story! The Holy Pillow is a treasure.
AnT said…
@ConstantGardener33,
I can completely sympathize. Though my late mother-in-law had a long-term illness, she had been doing pretty well. But complications from a severe UTI, in spite of every medical attempt to help her, caused her death after about three weeks hospitalization not long ago. Mr AnT and the rest of the family are still stunned by it. My mother became quite ill from a UTI as well, several times, stubbornly ignoring symptoms. It is an unexpectedly devastating thing.
AnT said…
@ConstantGardener33,
@Puds,

Holy Pillow! I like it! Yes, my godmother, who was educated in a Catholic girls’ academy and college, insisted on keeping it secured as a sort holy relic. She even called it that to me as I got older: you must always care for the relic! If there is a fire, grab the relic! (Not quite a finger bone from St Ursula, but close enough for my Aunt Helena.)

My mother, who was 6 years younger, more modern, and insisted on attending a non-Catholic public school (boys) and enrolling in a regular university (men) had this attitude: if it is blessed, it must be lucky, so we should take turns sleeping with it. My father might win his golf match! She might win a painting exhibition prize! I might memorize my piano recital song with ease!

My aunt won.
AnT said…
@MustySyphone,

Megs totally ignored Black History Month last year as well. And the year before too, I believe. This was noted on LSA, as everyone kept watch. One poster said (hope I am recalling this correctly) that Meghan ignored it while living in the UK too, excusing the lapse saying she didn’t know it was in October in the UK—but the poster found that a false excuse because Meghan ignored the American February observance as well. It’s ridiculous— everyone knows when Black History Month is. We all pay attention to its importance. Just not Megs.

She is “such a fraud” indeed.

AnT said…
.

Per an LSA poster,

a tumblr poster they follow just put this out:

“Yesterday someone I was able to verify would have an accurate information told me the Spartan Obstacle Course featured in the Show has been a favorite of Harry’s he visited their facilities at least 30 times, they are working on some thpe of Business Deal, could be Harry investing in the company, or could have something to do with a Netflix show he is working on, Bottom line is he has been training there, and this segment was nonnegotiable when his team agreed on cordon (sic) interview.)”. —LSA #202183, unpopular thread.


Okay, if that is true, here is another Oprah interview question:

“So, is there any part of the day when you two aren’t lying?”

.
Blonde Gator said…
All I have to say after seeing Harry on Corden's show is............

Harry, in comparison to Megs, deserves an Oscar. He's a WAY better actor than she is!

I'd just like to add....we in the USA don't really view things the same way as our cousins across the pond. Harry & Megs can spend their money any way they want to...it's not our money, so we are not eager to demand that they spend it on what we, or anyone else, thinks they should! They are foolish, no doubt. Confused...again, no doubt. But, as of today...if $4,000 dresses are their priority..it IS their choice.

And while I'm ranting (and yes, I AM offended!)...Megs DOES NOT represent American women!!!! It's vile that anyone would think that. She's a child of navel-gazing California, celebrity-worhship idiocy. She IS NOT US...it's rather annoying to be painted with that brush. Get over it. We don't aspire to be anyone but ourselves.

And Opus is entitled to his opinions. If they offend you, maybe try to pull up your big girl panties...that's what we ladies here do!!! Whining about being "offended" is most unseemly. We American women can take men's bluster with a grain of salt, and enjoy that particular insanity.

No man (nor woman) can devalue you. Unless you let them. I am certain I shall be excoriated for these opinions, so be it. IMO, we would be better served by trying to understand each other, rather than calling "FOUL!". Vive la differance.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Blonde Gator: I thought Harry was charming in his video with Corden. I was ready to dislike it, but, he acted in a way that was expected. Harry managed the obstacle course without getting his white shirt dirty. Amazing! OTOH, maybe it was a sleight of hand.
Ralph L said…
she couldn't extend to ask the priest or indeed all the CoE to add a line for Diana's soul
Protestants don't do that. Heresy!
@blonde gator,

OK, I'll take the hit.

"I'd just like to add....we in the USA don't really view things the same way as our cousins across the pond. Harry & Megs can spend their money any way they want to...it's not our money, so we are not eager to demand that they spend it on what we, or anyone else, thinks they should! They are foolish, no doubt. Confused...again, no doubt. But, as of today...if $4,000 dresses are their priority..it IS their choice."

I agree with you on this. As long as they are spending their own money, who cares what they spend it on? I think most people here also believe this. It's fairly self-explanatory that if it's their money, they can spend it any way that they want.


'And while I'm ranting (and yes, I AM offended!)...Megs DOES NOT represent American women!!!! It's vile that anyone would think that. She's a child of navel-gazing California, celebrity-worhship idiocy. She IS NOT US...it's rather annoying to be painted with that brush. Get over it. We don't aspire to be anyone but ourselves."

You are one woman, and you don't speak for all American women. Speaking up for yourself is good, but speaking for ALL american women is slightly self-important. I do agree with you that MM doesn't represent me, my opinions,or my way of life, but that's for me to decide, and not you.


'And Opus is entitled to his opinions. If they offend you, maybe try to pull up your big girl panties...that's what we ladies here do!!! Whining about being "offended" is most unseemly. We American women can take men's bluster with a grain of salt, and enjoy that particular insanity."

Again, you're speaking for everybody here, despite not knowing them or their beliefs. As for telling Opus that his rhetoric needs a check, it is far better to speak up to men who attempt to diminish women with their words. To sit back and just take it, as you propose, is cowardly. Men like that need to be educated about women. Nobody was crying that they were offended, but they stood up to a bully, and I'm proud of them for that. To remain silent, as you suggest, will just put women back into the dark ages.

Your self-described rant is not the way to get anything positive accomplished. Strong, intelligent women don't just sit back and keep silent, as you suggest. Most women know how to handle rude men these days, and we don't need your misguided help.

If we, as women, kept silent, we'd be living in the world of The Handmaid's Tale. You might as well put tape over our mouths.





Interesting thoughts about the Urban Dictionary references, especially in relation to what
@torontopaper1 said on 2 Mar 2020...

Another business opportunity?

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@Blonde Gator - of course, we see things rather differently over here. The phrase `American divorcee' presses the alarm button when used with reference to the Royal Family, given the crisis of 85 years ago. Having thought `That was then, this is now, don't jump to conclusions...' I find my instinctive reaction was not inappropriate.

Over the centuries, we have evolved what is known as a `Constitutional Monarchy' - our Constitution may not be enshrined in any specific document but is summarised currently as `The Queen is Sovereign in Parliament' - the Queen does not rule, she reigns, a big difference.

The assault that MM & H have launched is an attack on the British Constitution. In US terms, that's like members of the Presidential family trying to dismantle the US Constitution.

---------

Next year is the 25th anniversary of Diana's death, so we can expect it all to be raked over yet again. I wonder what stage the current saga will have reached in 18 months time?

`Saga' is a very apt term, I realise. The story has all the elements of an Old Norse multigenerational epic:

`Though trolls and ghosts feature, much of The Sagas remains grounded in reality. They tell stories of farmers, families and fighters, lovers, warriors and kings, of betrayal and dilemmas, and which are, for the most part, believable and credible. Women play a strong role too: few characters are as memorable as Gudrid Thorbjarnardottir, believed to be the first person of European ancestry to be born in America. And seemingly hard as nails.'

(https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2008/oct/03/1)

- and the narrative goes on for years, with`feuds', `hypocrisy' and `revenge' added to the mix. (btw, I'd dub our current anti-heroine as Gudriddance - if only!)

There are also echoes of Jacobean revenge tragedies - at least the play was over in a few hours. How many bodies will there be by the time the curtain falls on this performance?
@Nutty,
@charade,


We're almost up to 1100 comments. Could we please have a new thread? Thanks!
The point is `if it's their money'

- and I'd add `if it was obtained legitimately' - that's what sticks in our craw - there's a strong feeling here that it was obtained under false pretences and/or by blackmail, both of which are crimes in the UK.

False pretences: `We're going to be loyal members of the Royal Family'

Blackmail: ` Pay up or else...'

Also, it's being used in ways which are at odds with what they preach.
@WBBM,

I'm looking for keywords in their rhetoric that seem to be out of place in their discussions. I think you can find just about any word on Urban Dictionary these days, but certain words that Harry used with Corden stood out as quite odd in context to the discussion. That's when I went to the UD to see if there was any definition of crocodile, and it blew up from there.

Now, I'm beginning to think about MM and her bananas. Remember when she wrote on the bananas for the sex workers? She'd already posted the two bananas cuddling to mean that she and Harry were in bed together, and then she suddenly forgets what bananas connote, and gives them to recovering sex workers?
@WBBM,

YES! Definitely if it's their OWN money, and most definitely if it's not from ill gotten gains.
@Jocelyn's Bellinis

When I read about the bananas in Bristol, I was astonished and thought `Ye Gods! Is she daft or does she think we are? Why on earth write on phallic symbols?'
Ralph L said…
Blind Item #9
The alliterate one had final edit approval on an interview which recently aired. She doesn't on the very lengthy one. She wanted the very lengthy one to come out first (because she is in it) so kept trying to delay the first interview by not giving approval. They finally just said they were not waiting any longer and aired it.
@WBBM,

She thinks we are daft. I think she knew exactly what she was doing and hoped to get away with it. The little sayings, "you are loved," etc., were bad enough, but she knows the sexual connotation of a banana.

Somebody at that organization should have told her that the banana writings were unacceptable. These organizations need to take a stand when she does things such as this or shows up unannounced.

Don't forget the banana bread incident. This woman appears to be overly fixated on bananas.

And that's the end of my banana discussion for this evening. :)
HappyDays said…
JennS said...
It's funny we never hear of any connecting between MM and Gwenyth P who is also a neighbor. I thought she would be all over GP to try to take advantage of her Goop world. I don't know why Megalo hasn't tried to start up an Instagram influencer line of business yet. I think that would probably be one area she might actually do ok.

@JennS: I recall reading a blind item quite some time ago probably late 2019 or early 2020, that Meghan had reached out to Gwyneth Paltrow, but Meghan only got as far as talking to one of GP’s employees at Goop. So basically, it sounded like GP blew Meghan off.

GP has been around show business all her life and comes from parents who both had successful careers, so she has to have oodles of connections and probably is well aware that Meghan is a shark.

In my business, if I need to know about someone that I could end up working with, if I don’t already know what kind of person they are, I can usually find someone who knows about them or has worked with them in two phone calls. If someone is a difficult a-hole or has other serious drawbacks, their reputation gets around.

I think show business is very much the same way. And it’s doubtful that in private, many people in show biz have nice things to say about Meghan. We’ve already heard accounts of her diva behavior with people who worked with her when she was on Suits. In addition, do you think that although he has said nothing in public, that her last husband Trevor sings her praises in private conversations? Probably not.

If she was truly well-liked, great to work with, and had an excellent reputation and was regarded as a decent actress in that business, she would have likely had lots of opportunities already lined up via her friends in the business and people she’s worked with as soon as they left the RF.

I think Meghan thought it would be her royal homecoming and she would have had her pick of plum roles and projects. But it’s mostly been the sound of crickets chirping.

Pandemic or no pandemic, if Meghan was THAT fabulous, she’d have choice projects lined up for after the pandemic subsides, and Meghan and her 12-person public relations team would have made sure they were leaked to the press.
HappyDays said…
JennS said...
It's funny we never hear of any connecting between MM and Gwenyth P who is also a neighbor. I thought she would be all over GP to try to take advantage of her Goop world. I don't know why Megalo hasn't tried to start up an Instagram influencer line of business yet. I think that would probably be one area she might actually do ok.

@JennS: I recall reading a blind item quite some time ago probably late 2019 or early 2020, that Meghan had reached out to Gwyneth Paltrow, but Meghan only got as far as talking to one of GP’s employees at Goop. So basically, it sounded like GP blew Meghan off.

GP has been around show business all her life and comes from parents who both had successful careers, so she has to have oodles of connections and probably is well aware that Meghan is a shark.

In my business, if I need to know about someone that I could end up working with, if I don’t already know what kind of person they are, I can usually find someone who knows about them or has worked with them in two phone calls. If someone is a difficult a-hole or has other serious drawbacks, their reputation gets around.

I think show business is very much the same way. And it’s doubtful that in private, many people in show biz have nice things to say about Meghan. We’ve already heard accounts of her diva behavior with people who worked with her when she was on Suits. In addition, do you think that although he has said nothing in public, that her last husband Trevor sings her praises in private conversations? Probably not.

If she was truly well-liked, great to work with, and had an excellent reputation and was regarded as a decent actress in that business, she would have likely had lots of opportunities already lined up via her friends in the business and people she’s worked with as soon as they left the RF.

I think Meghan thought it would be her royal homecoming and she would have had her pick of plum roles and projects. But it’s mostly been the sound of crickets chirping.

Pandemic or no pandemic, if Meghan was THAT fabulous, she’d have choice projects lined up for after the pandemic subsides, and Meghan and her 12-person public relations team would have made sure they were leaked to the press.
HappyDays said…
Apologies for the double post to reply to JennS. I got an error message the first time I attempted to make the post
@Happy Days,

I read the same thing about MM trying to besties with Paltrow, and she was completely ignored by her. Paltrow, although somewhat weird, is Hollywood royalty, and she doesn't need a D-list showgirl to help her. Paltrow probably knew that MM would try to use her ideas to set up her own online beauty/self-help/food/decor site. That's what she was trying to do with The Tig, and it never got close to how popular Paltrow's site is.

MM is a Hollywood nobody. Now, her reputation precedes her, and I doubt she'll ever get an acting job. That's why she switched to politics. As soon as she screws that up, she'll go on to something else. Eventually, she'll run out ideas (and money), and hopefully, that's the last we'll see of her.
Happy Days - I'm having same problem.
Maneki Neko said…
@Lizzie

Going through the posts written during the night (morning here), I saw yours saying 'Yesterday someone posted here that DM had reported it was a joint infection. She didn't provide a link.' It must be me, I did mention Philip had an infection in his joint. I didn't provide a link because the article didn't supply any other details, so I thought it was pointless. I'll try and find it.
TheGrangle said…
Any willingness to give Maggot the benefit of the doubt during the early days evaporated completely with bananagate. The sheer stupidity/vulgarity of the gesture leaves me as baffled now as it did then. She should have been reined in very sharply by BP immediately.
Less baffling is todays' Mail article on many Americans' being unable to recognise our 'Fresh Prince with no hair' from a photograph. If their lead photo of Harry is anything to go by, I am not surprised as I also struggled to recognise him, given that Harry has blue eyes, not brown.
Maneki Neko said…
@Blonde Gator said:


'Harry & Megs can spend their money any way they want to...it's not our money, so we are not eager to demand that they spend it on what we, or anyone else, thinks they should! They are foolish, no doubt. Confused...again, no doubt. But, as of today...if $4,000 dresses are their priority..it IS their choice.'

Quite. If, however, it is our (UK) tax payer's money (if they're getting anything from Charles) then it isn't their choice. The £30M wedding was bad enough.
Oprah's magazine did a very deep dive into the BRF's finances in Nov. 2020 , which is very interesting timing. She mentions The Harkles in the article, but neglects to say that she is going to interview them for a TV special.

I got a "I'm richer than you" vibe from the article. Anybody else?

https://www.oprahmag.com/entertainment/tv-movies/a29862205/british-royal-family-money/
@The Grangle,

Fresh Prince of Bel Air

"Fresh Prince with No Hair!"

Hahahaha!
Maneki Neko said…
@Lizzie

I can't find the article that I mentioned abt Philip in the DM but I've found this one. It just mentions 'an infection in his joint' without any details.


https://dailyuknews.com/uk-news/prince-philip-begins-11th-day-in-hospital-in-his-joint-longest-stay-for-at-least-a-decade/
Of course, if, as we've hinted, she returns to her (alleged) earlier occupation, she have a strong USP.
@Elsbeth. Not seen whisky galore. Will try to watch it this week - sounds funny. If you share your mum's taste in films, you might enjoy Local Hero.
Sandie said…
@Maneki Neko

Thanks for finding the link to an article about PP having an infection in the joint. I really cannot remember where I came across it (it may have been a post on LSA, but it might have been your post), so cannot provide a reference, but the post did mention a palace source for the information and the source was one I know to be reliable. Thus, it seemed legit, and, to me, explained the long stay in hospital. I have since found out that a UTI can require a hospital stay, and a long one, and can be fatal, even if you are in robust health as PP supposedly is. Scary!
lizzie said…
@Blonde Gator stated:

"I'd just like to add....we in the USA don't really view things the same way as our cousins across the pond. Harry & Megs can spend their money any way they want to...it's not our money, so we are not eager to demand that they spend it on what we, or anyone else, thinks they should! They are foolish, no doubt. Confused...again, no doubt. But, as of today...if $4,000 dresses are their priority..it IS their choice."

First, I'm not at all sure all Americans have the same view on anything and that includes Harry and Meghan. So on its face the above statement is flawed as it purports to speak for all Americans.

Second, like our UK cousins have said, for me the issue is not Harry and Meghan's money and how they spend it. The issue is money and resources from others.

We know, for example, that federal, NY State, and NYC funds were used to support Meghan's gross baby shower in February 2019. While I do think that whole week was a disgusting display more suited to the Kardashians, I'd be alot less bothered if US citizens hadn't been forced to "pay up." And we know from court documents that various police depts were involved in investigating attempts to photograph H&M since their daring escape across the border in March. We know that police were involved in the flming of the kareoke bus, a trip undertaken only to give Harry good press. I further suspect that they are hiding money to avoid paying legitimate US taxes.

Personally I thought Meghan's $4000 lemon dress was hideous. It reminded me of a yellow embroidered Easter dress with green leaves my sister had. She looked cute in it but she was 8. And the yellow embroidery wasn't lemons on her dress-- it was roses. But if M wants to dress that way, I don't care. I do care if she can afford to dress that way because the couple has off-loaded their expenses onto others.

I also don't like Meghan's insistence that her behavior is due to being an American. (I'm an American-- I hug. I'm an American--I'm outspoken. I'm an American-- I don't believe in having a stiff upper lip) because that suggests most Americans are as self-centered, culturally-insensitive, and rude as she is. And I admire the Queen. Even if I didn't, seeing spoiled nearly 40-year olds treat her in an appalling manner while on this side of the pond bothers me.

And finally, I don't like hypocrites. Don't tell me where to vacation, where to shop, what fabrics to wear, and what foods to eat while flying around on private jets, buying designer clothes made in "sweat shops," and sending protection officers out to buy your "take out." And for God sakes, don't talk about the earth, rain, and water resources while living in a property that probably uses 1000 x as much water as I do every month. Just go away, spend "your" money, and STFU!
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@Maneki Neko,

Thanks for the link. I thought you or @Sandie had first mentioned the joint infection but didn't want to put either of you on the spot. Whether it's a UTI, septic arthritis, or something else, it's clearly serious especially at PP's age.
Sandie said…
@Jocelyn's Bellinis

Thanks for the link to the Oprah magazine article. It came across as quite factual to me, but I do wonder why the subject would require such a long and detailed article and the truth about Meghan's wild spending spree, at the expense of the British taxpayer was ignored.
A reminder of what real heroism is and also why those of who grew up in the shadow of WW2 can have a different attitude to life from those much younger (H, I'm looking at you.)

Yesterday, Naval Bomb Disposal personnel detonated a left-over 2nd WW bomb (1000kg, presumably delivered by parachute) close to Exeter University, in a controlled explosion. That is, the bomb was shielded by tons and tons of sand so the blast was reduced. (These weapons had timing devices so they detonated in the air - the blast could demolish entire neighbourhoods.)

I am in awe of the courage of those that have to defuse these things, so the blast can be triggered once precautions have been taken to reduce the damage, including evacuating the residents. That's true heroism.

Lots of videos on YouTube - take your pick.


Also Infrared film, from local police https://twitter.com/NPASSouthWest/status/1365765897089150978

Things like this puts those two pathetic chancers into proportion, doesn't it?
Whisky Galore* - the original is the better film but the remake is perhaps closer to the book. It's based on a real event (sinking of SS Politician, off Eriskay in 1941) laden with uisge intended for the US. Sorry about that!

* Both words originate in Gaelic, `Uisge gu leor'!

Sylvia said…
Do any Nutty posters recall this story about h erotic wallpaper Soho House London ?

Maybe it's all part of their continuing sexual theme.Their innuendos and in jokes they promote .




Did Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Notice They Were Surrounded by This on Their First Date?The couple dined at Soho House's Dean Street Townhouse, where artist Jonathan Yeo's remarkable wallpaper adorns the walls

Elizabeth Quinn Brown

JANUARY 18, 2018 4:35 PM

The walls at Soho House’s Dean Street Townhouse can’t talk—but they can titillate. This “club” and restaurant in London, where Prince Harry and Meghan Markle famously had their first date, is decorated with artist Jonathan Yeo’s “leaf collage” wallpaper: an almost classic pattern which sub rosa features pornographic imagery. “It can be inches from people's faces and they haven’t noticed," explains Yeo of the deep red wallpaper that is reconditely a Where's Waldo? of genitalia. "Who knows whether it has had a subliminal effect and more hookups have happened in the restaurant? But, that’s getting into a difficult territory ...'


https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/did-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-notice-they-were-surrounded-by-this-on-their-first-date/amp
Sylvia - thanks for the reminder.

Didn't one of us speculate, back then, that SoHo House could be just an expensive knocking shop?
abbyh said…

New post to continue comments.
Elsbeth1847 said…
@ D,TW,

Thanks for reminding me of Local Hero. I saw it when it came out but need to watch it again. I remember enjoying it.
Miggy said…
@Maneki Neko,

Thanks for that link... but that article is about the fact that this is PP's 'joint' longest stay in hospital. ie: he was in for 11 days last time, if I recall correctly?

Nowhere in the article does it say that he has an infection in a joint... only that he is in hospital due to an infection.
Maneki Neko said…
@Miggy

The headline is confusing but further down it says:

'Prince Philip begins 11th day in hospital after being admitted with an infection in his joint longest stay for at least a decade'.

I was confused by the headline and had to read it twice.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9309063/Harry-Meghan-replace-Archewell-letter-declaring-mothers-son-short-paragraph.html

The DM catching up with the changes Megalomaniac and Handbag have made to the Archewell website.
Miggy said…
@Sandie,

Can you copy that over to the new post?
Anonymous said…
Oh God, there’s a teaser for the Oprah interview at the Express. And she is cupping her belly.
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