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Open Post: The Sussexes We Can't See

May 21st, Oprah and Prince Harry's Docu-series "The Me You Can't See" is set to premiere on Apple TV Plus. Let's discuss...

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Teasmade said…
Emails here as well : )
CookieShark said…
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AnT said…
@CookieShark,

I am here to applaud your comment. It is brilliant, and I agree with every word. The cult of victimization and whining is sickening at this point, particularly as they bully others for press and branding.

What are they trying to accomplish?
Este said…
The past is prologue.

Vax live ratings did as abysmally as I thought they would: https://www.themix.net/2021/05/meghan-markle-and-prince-harrys-vax-live-concert-special-pulls-in-humiliating-ratings/

Reaffirming a couple key things to me:

a) the general public is dead tired of the woke politics and lecturing from celebs

b) Meghan and Harry have no real appeal outside of the Royal Family and they burned those bridges.

So, what can we expect from a "Docu-series" on mental health? More celebrity lecturing, Low ratings and the slow fade to irrelevancy for the Dastardly Duo.

I wonder how many times will Harry bring up his mother and his family? Would we risk alcohol poisoning if we took a shot every time Harry said "Diana" or "my family" because outside of belching on about that, I fail to see what Harry brings to this table? Whose gonna tune in to learn about mental health and feel compassion for a deluded narcissist like Harry?
abbyh said…
I agree CookieShark.

I think of those technicalities as excuses of the day. Or, the it's ok because ... I have some good reason defense which obliterates the not okness of what they are doing. (I had a family member who used that thinking a lot so it is something I pick up on. (thanks for that phrasing which helped me bring that into focus).

Looking back, we have heard this a lot from them: everything from the rationalizing color of fingernail polish worn to walking in front of her husband and so on. It was usually phrased as something along the lines of how the press made some big deal over nothing.
Girl with a Hat said…
it's not just the cult of victimisation that's the problem.

So many people have spent years in therapy and aren't any better for it. In fact, the therapy just makes them keep re-living the trauma over and over again for years.

You must seek to integrate this into your experiences via proper therapy like Rapid Eye Movement or somatic therapy. Both of these therapies are short but effective because they follow the neuroscience idea of rewiring your brain and this can be done rather quickly.

Girl with a Hat said…
Also, when I think of my mental health, the first person that comes to mind to help is Lady Gaga.
Este said…
The Vaxlive ratings were 1.3 million and came in below Dateline. Remember when Harry's wife claimed their wedding brought in $1.9 billion in tourism dollars. That's some serious wishful thinking on a coke bender there.

If Meghan and Harry were any kind of a big deal, like say JFK and Jackie O or Diana and Charles way back in the day of their engagement and marriage, they'd have no problem pulling in the viewers.

The problem is their talent isn't even in the same ballpark as their ambition. Triple A ball isn't raising it's game to the major leagues. Oh but she's running for President, LMAO. If thinking made it so, beggars would ride.
Girl with a Hat said…
If this were a series on different types of treatment which are being discovered, it would be a groundbreaker. But, seeing how there are so many celebrities involved, it will just be the equivalent of a coffee table book.
AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,

I know people who went through horrifying trauma, who got the help they needed and stood back up and live their lives. Of course they are touched forever by the things they went through (one’s father was shot to death in front of her when she was twelve, in a robbery at their small family store. One’s parents were killed in a private plane crash in a storm on the way to her university graduation. One’s father was shot to death in front of her family at the dining room table on Father’s Day by a corporate rival. Two lost young children to cancer. Many have had miscarriages. Some lost parents when young, lost jobs, dealt with serious illness, or domestic abuse.)

They received help, and kept living, and don’t spend their days whining and pouting and thrashing. When they need to grieve, or talk, we are there for them privately. They don’t think the world is out to get them. They don’t scheme to profit off their losses. They work, raise their families, volunteer, live each day. They are true victims who are trying to find worth and happiness in life, like all of us try each day.

Conversely, I have a friend who was in therapy weekly, for nearly two decades, because she felt her father wasn’t as attentive as he should have been in her teen years because he had to travel for business as a VP of whatever. She felt this affected her dating life, until a lovely man who liked her for years finally pointed out she should try spending time with him, instead of with the therapist. She was soon “cured“, which left her abandoned therapist quite miffed.

Lady Gaga’s fan base calls them little monsters, and once stated in billboard they are trying to make the world a better place for all, with acceptance, with love, compassion, and tolerance as their keystones. Perhaps she will discuss that.
Helium said…
He has no credibility nor credentials on the subject.
AnT said…
Personally, I want to know about the mental health of a woman who

* won’t change a loaded diaper before shooting a promo video with a baby.

* chose to demean an elderly queen

* piles on bronzer only in the U.K.

* throws hot tea at people

* plagiarizes everything she can

* dumps a husband via FedEx


Just start there, Oprah!


SwampWoman said…
Hey, I want to know about that, too, AnT! Let me add more: Who carries around a fake baby at a polo match, who screams at her staff, who was cruel to a little bridesmaid who had just had her third birthday, and who lied about the racism of an entire country full of people? I have to wonder about the mental health of a woman who parades around in public with a fake belly, and who cried about how nobody asked if she was okay in an African country with real problems.
Elsbeth1847 said…
Or insists women (who are dressed in their best) get on the floor (in Africa).
CookieShark said…
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CatEyes said…
Why don't we all send a letter to Oprah and the network with our valid points on why Harry is not an expert and did nothing to help his suicidal wife>
I’m late to the party!
JerseyGirl said…
hunter said…
Oh you are very kind, I think there is good opportunity for my skillset here but job searching is never super fun.

Yes, Jersey City would also be fine (barf) and I'm focusing my efforts on the big boys (banks) which is where my experience lies. Job searching usually takes a few months and I think I'm on track.

I was going to move to Dallas but I visited and it was not my jam.

---------------------------

I always dreaded interviews.. lol. Always believed I did terrible but would turn around and be offered the job. My brother in law and nephews live in Jersey City and barf is right. But the big jobs there are on the waterfront, so you'd never have to take a deep dive into the heart of the city.

I'm sure you'll be fine. I too can't imagine a NY'er living in Dallas either... That would be the ultimate culture shock for you and for me... I believe the big banking is in Florida but also up and down the East Coast. But it would be the most difficult transition for those of us that are Northeast.
JerseyGirl said…
@hunter ;

This thought just came to my mind after I left my previous comment. I think the closet we'd ever come to seeing a cowboy would be going to Times Square and seeing the naked cowboy! ha ha ha!
DesignDoctor said…
@AnT, SwampWoman, Elsbeth1847

Or "proudly" gave to the African women used baby clothes, who threw a pot of hot tea at staff, who had staff bake banana bread which she gifted and she claimed to bake, who stays 20 minutes at charity events.

@CookieShark said:
"The real her appears to be interested in money, expensive clothing, pap walks, luxury travel, and gourmet food."

That was the subject of The Tig, her lifestyle blog prior to 6.

SwampWoman said…
North Carolina has some banking HQs too.
Girl with a Hat said…
Maybe Harry can do an episode on bullies and have his wife star in it.
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Miggy said…
New Lady C video.

Lady C EXPOSES behind-the-scenes treachery 2 restore Meghan & Harry HRH @ Prince Michael's expense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiZNoZcnMw4
Girl with a Hat said…
OT

this comment at CDAN:

Diana was not a virgin when she married Charles. At least one young man, Rory Scott, who dated Diana off and on for a couple of years, stated that their relationship was most definitely physical. Another young man stated that after love making, Diana's need to cuddle could "keep you going for hours". Both men were shut down by Buckingham palace.
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snarkyatherbest said…
Trauma Harry? I have trauma from all the pr you and the mrs are putting out. Stop punishing us ;-)

seriously a mental health series that talks to rich celebrities - no one understands me, no one gets me. covid restrictions were hard on me. I once lost a role to JLo, let me tell you how it impacted my mental health. My daddy cut off my $1MM a year allowance. It was trauma. Did i remember to add about my dead mummy.

What about talking to normal people that have significant trauma and the inspiring ways they overcame it. He is all about Invictus, how about some real injured vets from all different wars, and how they persevered. what about the 10 cent and inch paid to pakistani girls that are growing hair for your wife's latest weave?
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Miggy said…
Camilla Tominey very briefly comments on the Oprah and Prince Harry's Apple documentary series.

"No regrets after the Oprah interview... "

From 8:30 onwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTq3moCMkJ4
Portcitylass said…
VF has PW and 6 on the cover with title as " A Continental Rift ". Glanced while checking out at grocery. All glowing pics of 6 and wife and only one pic of DC with her back to camera. Lots of Diana pics as well. Didn't bother to read it but may when we go to Barnes and Noble this weekend.
Portcitylass said…
The Royal Family's Continental Rift. Sorry misremembered title.🙄
Girl with a Hat said…
@Portcitylass.

I have the electronic copy of that magazine and posted some excerpts. I may post the entire article if you're interested, but only this evening
Girl with a Hat said…
@Portcitylass,

I forgot to add, the VF article was heavily skewed in Hairy's favour and seemed to portray the RF as a prison.
JerseyGirl said…
I agree with all the comments concerning mental health and how H has gotten into the trauma/grieving business.

Never in my life as I experienced my own life traumas/grieving I have looked for outside help from any celebrity/wannabe/public figure.

If it's true that H doesn't even remember his own mother, why would he still feel the effects of the loss? It's the only card he carries in his pocket to make money off of.

MM has had no traumas/griefs to deal with. All her loss is self imposed, she's the one who threw things in the trash. I'm so glad I never met someone so self destructive.

I believe H use's the Diana card because his mother was loved around the world and any mention of her name perks up people's ears, they want to hear the inside scoop or any new information that never played out in the press.

I have noticed that he no longer gets request's for speaking engagements to talk about whatever it is he talks about. That one corporate event he did speak at was probably no more than a one off occasion.

I think they are spending much more than they are taking in in income, so I wonder how long it will take for them to drain all of H's savings and investments? It's hard to imagine having millions and spending nearly that much each month just to live in a home that is really for the super wealthy which they aren't or will never be.

The play pretend lifestyle that they are currently living isn't going to last.
Teasmade said…
@JerseyGirl: But isn't he due to inherit some great amount when he turns 40? Not to mention anything he may inherit from three people, one already deceased. If I were the wife, this would "keep me hanging on", as the song goes.

Crass, I know.
xxxxx said…
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2021/04/may-cover-story-a-continental-royal-rift

THE ROYAL FAMILY’S
CONTINENTAL
RIFT
MAY 2021 ISSUE
Two brothers, alike in dignity, among the British monarchy where we lay our scene, are grappling with ancient grudges. Will it—should it—be mended?
BY MICHELLE RUIZ
HappyDays said…
Harry producing a television series about mental health is about as ridiculous as Meghan writing a book about family relationships.

Oh, wait. We’re already past ridiculous on both counts.

Next: A joint media project by Harry and Meghan about how to have a psychologically healthy marriage.

Midge said…
@Happy Days
Maybe an additional one on child-rearing??
Maneki Neko said…
@AnT and @SwampWoman

Catching up. To add to your lists, I want to know about the mental health of a woman with BPD, who can

- dump her father publicly just prior to her wedding
- ignore him when he is in hospital with a heart attack
- laugh at an elderly gent who fell off his horse
- who whinged about how she had no support from the BRF in an
interview shown worldwide - this when she she lived with the BRF
- did the interview while her latest husband's grandfather was in
hospital with heart problems

I could go on...
Grisham said…
Vax live, which I did not watch, was apparently on 2 networks, so it pulled in 3.06 total.
Grisham said…
Este said...
The Vaxlive ratings were 1.3 million and came in below Dateline. Remember when Harry's wife claimed their wedding brought in $1.9 billion in tourism dollars. That's some serious wishful thinking on a coke bender there.



Not true. Vax live beat dateline. Dateline pulled in 2.77 million and vax live pulled in 3.06 million.

That article is wrong and only pulled the 1.3 million from ONE network.


I’m sorry but I have to current things that are provable as incorrect.
Grisham said…
Also, another 1.1 million streamed vax live on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C02GCe5_bDk
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Teasmade said…
Now an alliance with Procter and Gamble???

When will it STOP??!
DesignDoctor said…
Here's the link to the article about P & G.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9567471/Harry-Meghan-team-Procter-Gamble-build-compassionate-communities.html
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DeerAngels said…
@Ant
You hit it on the head about real people with real crisis. Some day's the only positive upon waking up is I woke up on the right side of dirt. And grateful for that. Some days I just think well I am just not aging as gracefully as planned. And no matter how big the crisis now or in the past I will find something to laugh about.
I was lucky my Mom with all she had to deal with taught me that skill of finding a laugh. Such as when she was in hospital with colon cancer. I found a dish to take to her called the poo poo platter from chinese restaurant. Took menu so she could see it was really called that. She laughed so hard the nurses came to check on her. First restaurant after coming home she insisted on going there to order that same dish.
With some medical issues of late upon waking on April fool's day I thought it was hilarious to wake up to way more snow than prediction, mother nature had her laugh.

I do NOT want to hear these two rich butt wipes telling me how bad and hard their so called hard knock live's continue of fake crisis's. She is starting to remind me of a T-Rex wanna be and him of her dino poop.
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AnT said…
@CookieShark,
@snarkyatherbest,

👏👏👏👏 you are both on a roll.

The celebs are said to be dying for exposure, and Oprah is still firmly encased in her rich celebrity 80s-90s bubble. Perhaps she still hungers for old-timey adulation and for even more Oprah Buck$ to pour in, while she plays royal auntie and king-maker.

I truly would love to be a fly on the wall so I could hear the self-congratulatory conversations among these clueless celebs and Oprah, pre-taping, as they discuss their mental health series and their impact on humanity. Each probably harbors the idea they will be nominated for a Nobel prize for this thing, after being fully open and sharing the light about liposuction or aging out of sweetheart roles.

I suppose Oprah won’t be discussing mental health issues like narcissism, or he sexual abuse trauma of young actresses via H Weinstein.... or how an elderly woman in her 90s might feel after her spoiled grandson and his gold-digging wife abusively help hasten the demise of her elderly husband by attacking the family to squeeze a few more coins from their “brand.”

Here's a product list for Procter and Gamble. I'm going to stop using any of their products and boycott them. Any other Nutties want to join me?

The only way to stop the Dastardly Duo is to let companies know that if they work with them, their bottom line will be negatively affected.

https://us.pg.com/brands/
Girl with a Hat said…
@Jocelyn,

I already boycott P&G
Hikari said…
Great minds!

I just subscribed to New York magazine and ran straight over here with this article, only to find that the brand-new post had just gone up!

Apologies for reposting if someone beat me to this as well . . I have been taking a much-needed sabbatical from Haz's Horse$hit $how and touring the world with Heygo . . also dealing with a kitty krisis, now resolved. It's refreshing to go cold turkey on the two worthless grifters (and the third, Orcah). I really turned a corner with the latest F-U!!!! Archie photo and those two mental tossers and their Svengali Orcah can go jump in a lake . .full of molten lava.

https://www.thecut.com/2021/05/oprah-and-prince-harry-made-an-apple-show-about-mental-health.html
jessica said…
My friends and I have been having a huge laugh over the name ‘the me you can’t see’

We can’t remember it half the time. What does it represent? Multiple personality disorder? One girlfriend exclaimed,
‘Where is ME?!’ ‘Can you help find Me?’

Such a stupid premise.
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jessica said…
@hunter

I lived in Jc/ Newport on the water for a while and LOVED it. I know it’s not the city per say, but the commute into west village is 5 mins and WTC is 10. If you want to connect, my neighbor in the building I lived in works at JPM as the exec director of Global IT. We are good family friends and I’d be happy to pass along your info. Lmk and I’ll post an email here.
@JB, I'm in. I only use a few of their products, but will phase them out. I didn't even know P&G owned them. Will keep the list in mind for the future, too. Thank you.
@GWAH,

Good for you! I hope more people will do this.

Here is the extremely long and detailed P&G consumer privacy policy (there is no consumer privacy):

https://www.pg.com/privacy/english/privacy_statement.shtml

And here are the board of directors, all huge names in international business:

https://us.pg.com/structure-and-governance/board-of-directors-composition/
AnT said…
@Deer,
I am so very sorry your mother went through so much with her serious illness. How fantastic you were able to keep her connected to life’s humor, and give her first a good laugh, and then later, a good meal! You know how to find the spirit of living, no matter what, and that will always benefit you and really is the mark of the survivor. That’s the reality of real life, as the rest of us live it, outside the Hollywood glam world. From early days in my career, I noticed the celebs and names we dealt with had it all, yet a solid 75% of them were so depressed, miserable, looking fir meaning to the point they’d bend my ear and I was just some random intern. Right then, I knew I was lucky to be destined to live a simpler regular life surrounded by solid people. I mean, look at the Harkles — under the merching and pushing and video rictus grins are two desperate and convulsively dissatisfied grubs trying to elude their logical fate.

There is a longevity streak in my family on my mother’s side, and when a doctor once commented on her vigor and youthful looks and spunky attitude, she said she made it a point to find something to laugh about every day — and she really did. My aunts and grandmother were exactly the same. Whatever you are personally dealing with now, find a way to find some kernel of humor in it (that’s my Bavarian and St Petersburg gene combo speaking, I think!). I find no matter what I have tumbled through, and there has been some utter sh&t, I always find I end up laughing about it later with friends. Because life is kind of ludicrous!

Chin up!

Hikari said…
AnT's list:

Personally, I want to know about the mental health of a woman who

* won’t change a loaded diaper before shooting a promo video with a baby.

* chose to demean an elderly queen

* piles on bronzer only in the U.K.

* throws hot tea at people

* plagiarizes everything she can

* dumps a husband via FedEx


To your list I would add:

* Libeled an elderly, ill father who'd given her everything in the international press and continued to bait him in the courts. Thomas is in his mid-70s. His daughter seems determined to drive him into a heart attack with her callousness and lies.

* Never met a lie she wouldn't tell. Pathological lying is a symptom of sociopathy.

* Gave her new sister-in-law a knife as a 'gift'. Unless you are presenting a new bride with a set of cooking utensils or the recipient is a trapper living in the wilderness, a knife is not an appropriate gift when a nice scented candle would do.

* Made a little girl and her post-partum mum cry over tights. I still think that Catherine didn't cry because Murkletroid was shouting. I think it was worse--I think M might have man-handled Charlotte . . grabbed or shoved or slapped her. That would set a mother off, particularly one who'd just given birth. Maybe there were words, after which C. thought she'd be the bigger woman and apologize, even though she and her daughter were the victims.

* Used the shrine to a murder victim to merch inappropriate clothing

* Whined about how hard her life was as a Royal Duchess in the murder/poverty capital of the world

* I'd say staging two pregnancies and a 'miscarriage' and daring anyone to contradict her is a sign of serious mental disturbance.
AnT said…
@Jocelyn’sBellinis,

Thanks. And, like GWAH, I’ve already been avoiding P&G products for years.
AnT said…
@Hikari,
@SwampWoman,

Excellent amendments to my list!

The determination to plow forward with these two dangling snakeheads as the world’s newest little treasures continues to make no sense to me, unless I wear my tungsten tiara.

🤨
@AnT,

Yay! I hope more join in and boycott every business that the Dreadful Duo are involved in.
@AnT & JB, is it too much to hope for that P&G get markled next?
CookieShark said…
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@Constant Gardner,

Thanks! Another one for the Nutty P&G boycott team!
@constant Gardner,

If we keep up the boycott and spread the word on other sites to boycott P&G, I think we could make a noticeable dent in P&G's bottom line.
Hikari said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9567471/Harry-Meghan-team-Procter-Gamble-build-compassionate-communities.html

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Archewell Foundation has announced a multi-year global partnership with a controversial American consumer goods firm.

The affiliation with Procter & Gamble will focus on gender equality, more inclusive online spaces, and resilience and impact through sport.

The couple said they would be working to 'build more compassionate communities' as the Sussexes are on a mission to bring a more 'just future for women and girls'.

But the alliance has raised eyebrows due to the company's checkered history, with it being linked to child and forced labour, animal testing and price fixing.

Even the Duchess has hit out at the firm previously, having called for it to change a 'sexist' dish soap advert when she was just 11.

The Archewell site said: 'Archewell Foundation believes that with community, and through compassionate service to others, we can unleash systemic cultural change.

'In service of doing this, and building more compassionate communities, Archewell Foundation announced a multi-year global partnership today with Procter & Gamble.'

It would 'elevate the voices of adolescent girls' to make sure 'their point of view and lived experience is heard at the tables where decisions are made'.

The foundation also pledged to work with men and boys to encourage gender equality.

It said: 'Together we will underscore the importance of engaging men and boys in the drive for gender equity throughout society and encourage shared caregiving at home so everyone in the family can thrive.'

Aged 11, Meghan wrote to Procter & Gamble to object to sexism in a dish soap advert which included the line: 'Mothers around America are fighting greasy pots and pans.'

She asked them to change the advert to 'people all over America' and the company subsequently amended the language.

She appeared in an interview in 1993, saying she was 'furious' at the advert for P&G's Ivory Clear.

She added: 'When they heard this, the boys in my class started saying, ''Yeah, that's where women belong - in the kitchen''.'

The partnership will focus on the drive for 'compassionate and inclusive online spaces' as well, with both Harry and Meghan speaking out about online abuse in the past. Meghan once said she was 'the most trolled person in the entire world'.

The collaboration will also build on Harry's commitment to using sport in the recovery of wounded, injured and sick military personnel and veterans.

The duke founded the Invictus Games in 2014.

The Foundation said: 'As part of P&G's sponsorship of Paralympic athletes, this partnership will leverage the platform of Para sport to increase visibility and inclusivity.'

P&G said on its website: 'We've also been inspired by the mission of the Archewell Foundation and its founders, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, that with community, and through compassionate service to others, we can drive systemic cultural change, benefiting everyone.'

The Archewell announcement comes after Prince Harry's media friend Bryony Gordon said he feels 'spiritually at home' in California.


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Hikari said…
There was a lengthy middle portion I left out, mostly about P&G's human-rights abuses and various failed ad campaigns of recent memory.

I'm adding myself to the P&G boycott, though I already have significant items from them in my house, from laundry soap to personal care. But they won't be getting another dime of my money. I've been trying to go more organic and plastic free and not buying Made in China, but it's very hard to avoid pesticides and plastic and P&G in the Midwest. The town I live in is the site of a major P&G warehouse hub facility. If they get Markled, that will mean people out of work here, if this facility closes. I am utterly mystified that Hazard and Mess are such a corporate draw. I do not understand it at all. Couple of empty soulless windbags adding to our greenhouse gas problem. No talent, no worth, not a single redeeming feature in either of them. Both completely vile.
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lucy said…
I quit buying Venus razors (Gillette, PG owned) razors after absurd "toxic masculinity" commercials. I continue to buy Tide laundry soap 😕

Nothing much to comment regarding O series other than to say if involving ' PH anecdotes' I expect to be sensationalized, if not outright lie fest. Damaging to RF as that seems to be only thing he/they have to garner attention and paycheck .

In response to last thread maybe I have watched Exorcist one too many times. Regardless,even with search of independent brands/images my opinion still stands as I cannot unfeel the evil.

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This is funny 😁
https://www.tumblr.com/blog/view/briefcasegirl24/650576072565489664

AnT said…
@Jocelyn’sBellini’s,
I know lots of people who avoid their products. Some for the more publicized shadiness of their issues with child labor, etc. (Some repelled by their hideously garish packaging designs!) And some who hint (strongly) that working there was like being inside a creepy, almost psychotic military camp, where your soul felt stolen in exchange for toilet paper cash, and you could get into trouble as a corporate staffers for failing to walk on the proper colored line through a building to a meeting. I have heard several stories from former workers and they dovetail, so, who knows. Company has had profit issues in recent years, so this must be another lame C suite attempt to get audience attention.
Girl with a Hat said…
@lucy, don't bash those "toxic masculinity" commercials.

My boss, who had been mansplaining everything I said in meetings and caused me to start to stutter, stopped doing it after these commercials started airing.
Humor Me said…
Thank you Nutty for a new thread and topic!
I find it dreadful that a man who sells his grief over the loss of his mother 24 years ago and plays on that image of the 11 year old boy walking behind the casket is the featured speaker for Mental Health. This is the same man who admitted in an interview to an international audience that he was ashamed of his wife's suicidal thoughts and did not/ could not or would not or did not know how to seek help for her. I do not believe that Harry has come to grips with his "demons/ griefs/ whatever because he uses them to advance his cause - he gets it. The problem is Harry mouths the words, but the empathy is not there.
GMAFB.

This is a man who has not known what his role is in Life until one+ years ago when he decieded to live Life on his own terms, and was forced (his words) to make money. I would reather listen to William speak of his experiences with his loss and how he 'kept calm and carried on" be it with or without help. William's empathy to others is evident in his discussions with others on mental health - it is about them, less so about himself.
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Hikari said…
Earth Breeze Biodegradable Laundry Sheets
-----------------------------------------

This keeps popping up in my Facebook feed, and I mean to order some as soon as I finish up my existing laundry detergent at home. I go to the laundromat so it's really a no brainer . .no more lugging heavy plastic jugs or else trying to fish out pods that have exploded in the bag and get all over my hands. These look just like a dryer sheet but it's dehydrated laundry soap that dissolves in the washer . .Just toss it in! The minimal packaging is biodegradable.

If anyone has tried this already, I'd love a review. At $16.95 for 64 loads it seems comparable to Tide. In the big industrial washers (energy saving) I use about the same soap as 3 regular loads. One box of this would last me quite a while, and you are paying for 100% cleaning product, not 80% water.

https://ecoccasion.com/products/earth-breeze-laundry-sheets?variant=39325147234366&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=
JennS said…
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Hikari said…
@JennS

I think it may be all about Harry.
Many folks are not aware of the greedy suspect side of the Sussexes. Harry is the son of Diana - that is a big draw. He is a member of an ancient monarchy. He gained popularity with Invictus. Many people still see him as the fun member of the RF. Even if they realize he is not the brightest crayon in the box, they may still think he can offer something as a sort of mascot!


I expect you're right. For most of the pandemic year, it was Smeghan that we saw every time we turned around, merching a new outfit in her latest Internet video project or faked up reproductive tableau. She was the headliner for the Orcah interview. But notice ever since then, Madam has been suddenly silent and invisible. Apart from reminding us through her paid PR shills how HEAVILY PREGNANT she is . .and the one recent 'Pretending to take the Pretend Archie to his Pretend school' because Charlottte is going to school this week and we must upstage her. Otherwise it's all Hazza all the time with various 'deals'.

Well, those companies that hope to cash in on whatever remaining cachet he's got left as 'his mother's son' must be finding out right quick the first time they interact with Haz outside of a pitch meeting with his entourage that they've invested in a lemon and now they are stuck. For all the great hullabaloo over: NETFLIX, SPOTIFY, BETTERUP . . where is the output? What projects is he working on? I think he showed up at BetterUp for 1-2 days and then had to 'take a break', as that was the most 'work' he'd put in . . ever. And that work likely consisted of loitering in the offices chatting up people and being brought cups of tea . . or spliffs, seeing as it's a wokey outfit.

This slob has no concept of what work is. The buyer's remorse has to be setting in hardcore. Every company that associates with JCMHFKAP or his harridan deserves to fail and it would serve them right if they did. H & M are the human equivalent of Coronavirus. Some people can encounter them and emerge unscathed, but for a whole lot of others it's a very damaging, potentially fatal encounter. There is not a pit deep enough to throw those two tossers into in my opinion. They deserve to be stuck with each other for eternity . .in hell.
AnT said…
I think it is hilarious that in their hunger to be seen as inclusive and woke, these corporate idiots and their B- /C+ agencies have hired:

*. a white rich man with a little crown who treats his family like sh&t, and
*. his hate-powered wife who can’t change a diaper, and whose past allegedly has stains even Tide cannot remove

Perhaps they can watch as actors swaddle their new doll in the companies landfill-clogging diaper products, while continuing to hide their firstborn away, as so many normal real product customers do.

The higher the Harkle visibility, the greater the likelihood some truths will spill out. This is going to be hilarious.
lucy said…
@GWH

certainly a positive! Thank you for sharing!

OT

Came across this while searching something else. Seems going rate for "large" picture of M is $499. Same as every other name I randomly searched (aside from RF as they are classy and not for sale)

What is comical and interesting is very first M picture shown for purchase is pit stain picture, same for search on Harry 😆

https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/meghan-markle?family=editorial&phrase=meghan%20markle&sort=mostpopular






Girl with a Hat said…
@Hikari,

I use Nature Clean laundry detergent sheets and have been for some time. very handy.
Portcitylass said…
Thank you, G w a h,

I would appreciate it.


DesignDoctor said…
@AnT

These lines are brilliant:

*. a white rich man with a little crown who treats his family like sh&t, and
*. his hate-powered wife who can’t change a diaper, and whose past allegedly has stains even Tide cannot remove
@Hikari
@jenn,

Hikari, you're right on every point. The Dubious Duo have finally figured out that Catherine's sister-in-law isn't getting the work or contacts that she thought she would have by now. So, they have to bring out Haz, like an old-time freak show, to bring in any money at all. Unfortunately, he is as dumb as a brick.

Yes, if we spread the word to boycott any and all businesses that hire them, it should make a difference.

I'm still pissed off that the jeweler in Canada gave Catherine's sister-in-law that necklace. Why? Just for showing up for 20 minutes? What did Catherine's sister-in-law ever do to help them? I'd never buy jewelry from that artist after that. No Carolina Hererra dresses, either. Catherine's sister-in-law is only out to get more merch for herself and to merch for dollars, and any freebies that may pass her way.

@jenn,

Yes, they are trying to keep racial division going, as that's the only thing they have to market themselves. The marketing of hatred combined with the "poor me" pity. Beyond that, unless we agree with Catherine's sister-in-law's every word, all of us are racist now.

I think I said the other day that I would scream if I heard H say something is "amazing" one more time. Now, I'll scream if I hear "heavily pregnant" again. It feels as if Catherine's sister-in-law has been "heavily pregnant" for five years now.

As for needing a break, a break from what? Sitting in your huge mansion? From the "miscarriage," from feeling "suicidal," and her idiot husband does nothing to help her? Of course, the "miscarriage" and the "suicidal" ideation are two things that can't be verified.

@lucy,

Most of those photos are available online for free, so I don't know who would want to spend $450 for them. Some foolish sugar? Just look up "free photos Harry and Meghan".
@AnT,

Thanks for telling me about the problems with P&G. I'd heard a few rumors, but I didn't know it was that bad. I'm almost ready to throw out my Tide and Febreeze.
Teasmade said…
I'm quoting a quote but:

@AnT

These lines are brilliant:

*. a white rich man with a little crown who treats his family like sh&t, and
*. his hate-powered wife who can’t change a diaper, and whose past allegedly has stains even Tide cannot remove

Too busy to look it up, but don't P&G make Pampers?

LOL
DesignDoctor said…
@Teasmade

Yes, P&G makes Pampers.

She has already marketed how leakproof Pampers are when she did the vid with the fully loaded diaper Archie on her lap!
Pantsface said…
So the much acclaimed Mother's Day donation fron the #6's was no such thing, as if we didn't know already, not one penny came from their purse. And why why why is it all about women and gender equality, I appreciate in some parts of the world, women are not equal, but why not equality for ALL, black/white/man/woman/gay/bi etc etc - there are many men in the world who are not "equal" for many different reasons, poverty, caste etc. I hate pushing agendas for one type of person, we should be pushing for equality for all, regardless of circumstances. If the press are to be believed, white boys from poor backgrounds in the UK are the most under priveledged. Well, no doubt she can pass on her freebie washing up liquid to some poor hispanic housekeeper who washes their dishes!
hunter said…
Jessica! Wow that would be fantastic thank you, yes I would really appreciate that please let me know how contact you.
Elsbeth1847 said…
DM article talking about how spiritually at home 6 is now in LA. All about how he no longer has to live with the expectations from others and that he now has a sense of purpose.

It is very new age and highly supportive of this move away from everything he used to have. It has the same tone in the praise as the when they come to LA, they can do what they want, everyone will want to hire them, be with them and they can charge what they want.

We have a few P&G products. I was shocked at how few of them we use (less than one hand). I guess we haven't been very supportive of them all along.

Girl with a Hat said…
@Portcitylass:

these are excerpts from the VF article


BEFORE SHE WAS Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Sussex, Meghan Markle referred to herself as “Rango’s mermaid.” The phrase comes from French-Cuban writer Anaïs Nin’s autobiographical novel The Four-Chambered Heart, which Meghan quoted often in her Suits era: “I must be a mermaid, Rango. I have no fear of depths and a great fear of shallow living.”

Meghan wanted more than middling cable TV success. Elizabeth Tuke, her publicist from 2014 to 2016, encouraged her to go out for blockbusters. “You could be the next Megan Fox,” Tuke told her. Instead, she embarked on a USO tour to Afghanistan, Spain, Italy, Turkey, and England; traveled to Rwanda to build wells for clean water; and campaigned against menstrual poverty among schoolgirls in India. “She is this superambitious woman,” Tuke added, which shouldn’t be a dirty word. Meghan did press Q&As in her car on the way to set at four in the morning and affirmed her respect for Tuke’s role in their written agreement, with language that declared Meghan would “never minimize me as a person or my prowess in the field.”

Her advocacy peaked in what was, at least by March 2015, one of the biggest nights of her life: a speech at the U.N. Women conference. Meghan flew herself to New York and stayed with her mom, Doria Ragland, at the Peninsula Hotel. Tuke lent Meghan her own dress, a black design by Preen with a deep V-neck, and they shed happy tears in the hotel room. “We clinked Champagne glasses, we hugged, we bounced up and down,” said Tuke, who runs her own boutique public relations agency. “It was like she was going off to get married.”

The same qualities that made Meghan a superstar—that she’s outspoken and passionate about women’s rights and, as a biracial woman, has a unique ability to connect with people who feel voiceless—made her uniquely qualified for modern duchesshood. They also rendered her a threat. As Prince Harry divulged to Oprah, his family welcomed Meghan until they “got to see how incredible she is at the job” during the couple’s 2019 South Pacific tour. “That brought back memories.” Not happy ones, was his implication.
Girl with a Hat said…
Princess Diana dazzled with her youth, beauty, and former nursery teacher’s touch, crouching to hug small children, in stark contrast with royal women who extended their gloved hands in greeting. During a 1981 visit to Wales in which frothing crowds lined the streets, subjects cried for Diana and all but groaned at Prince Charles. “The princess had everything going for her except the ability to not upstage the prince,” Prince Charles’s valet Stephen Barry once said. (Soon after, she outshone Queen Elizabeth at the opening of Parliament. Rather than the literal throne, all anyone really cared about was the fresh-faced Diana in white satin David Sassoon and the lover’s knot tiara.) After Wales, Diana “had expected to be lavished with praise by the Palace for her heroic efforts, but no response was forthcoming,” Tina Brown wrote in The Diana Chronicles. “Diana couldn’t understand why nobody said ‘Well done,’ recalled a former Palace aide.” Perhaps because, like Meghan, she exposed the monarchy’s wooden ways.

Like Diana in her day, “Harry and Meghan were suddenly too electric,” said Anna Pasternak, author of The Real Wallis Simpson: A New History of the American Divorcee Who Became the Duchess of Windsor. “They made the Cambridges”—Bill and Cathy, goes the joke—“seem dowdy, suburban, and rather dull. That does not go down well in the palace.” For continuity’s sake, the House of Windsor prefers to train the spotlight on the monarch and her direct heirs—hence the 2019 Christmas portrait in which only the queen, Prince Charles, Prince William, and Prince George made a performative pudding.

Three decades later, Meghan was staring down the paradox that had plagued her mother-in-law: The royal family demands duty from the women who marry in—to relinquish normal life (and their passports, according to Meghan) in service of the Crown. But if they’re too sparkly, the palace, like a sullen teen, gets jealous and resentful. It’s a no-win predicament familiar to women, and women of color in particular: You’re either too much or never enough. When Meghan and Harry announced their decision to step back as senior royals last year, the fusty palace establishment “started to push Meghan and Harry away completely,” Diane Abbott, the first Black female member of Parliament and former shadow home secretary, told Vanity Fair.

Instead of protecting the monarchy, the Firm’s alleged unsupportive treatment of the Sussexes has only lurched the institution into existential crisis, fueling questions about its colonial roots and Britain’s systemically racist present. “The queen is a figurehead for an empire that refuses to understand that its days are gone,” said Kelechi Okafor, London-based host of the Say Your Mind pop culture podcast. “Diana came along…and then Meghan Markle came along, and everything started to fall to pieces.”



Girl with a Hat said…
T THE HEART of the most explosive royal scandal since Diana and Charles divorced are their sons, brothers William and Harry. Now 38 and 36, respectively, they’re seared into the collective memory as solemn adolescents who shuffled behind their mother’s coffin, remaining collected while strangers across the world wailed. As Harry told Oprah, “We’ve been through hell together.”

For two decades after their mother’s death, William and Harry ran in the same posh, polo-playing Eton social circle, partied at Mahiki with mutual friend Guy Pelly and later stood at each other’s side at the altars of Westminster Abbey and St. George’s Chapel as best man on each other’s royal wedding days. For a long time, Harry was a merry third wheel and fun uncle to the Cambridge kids, but “Kate and William getting married and having children really exposed to Harry that he, too, wanted to have a family,” said Harry’s friend and former British Army training partner Dean Stott. Never mind that each of William and Kate’s children bumped Harry further down the line of succession, making the constraints of royal life seem increasingly redundant.

With their marriages, their personalities seemed to diverge, and so did their roles within the family business. William, the stoic elder brother and heir, finally wed Kate Middleton, his English rose from St. Andrews, on and off for the better part of a decade before their 2011 nuptials. They seldom so much as hold hands in public. The rakish, emotional Harry took longer to settle down (see also: strip billiards in Las Vegas) but fell hard for Meghan, the first biracial, divorced American royal bride ever, in a whirlwind 18 months. William reportedly expressed concern about Harry and Meghan’s romance, telling his brother, according to royal correspondents Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand’s Finding Freedom, to “take as much time as you need to get to know this girl.” The brotherly bond further frayed as their wives navigated their own relationship, including the now infamous clash over bridesmaids dresses. While friends of Meghan, including Jessica Mulroney and Lindsay Roth, have spoken out in her defense, many in Harry’s circle have remained quiet because they’re friends with both princes. As Stott said, “You can’t go against one or the other.”

Together, the brothers Wales might have represented a new generation of royal. Instead, “William and Harry are playing out the dynamic of their parents,” Pasternak says. Harry tracks with Diana, a rebel spirit fueled by fury at the tabloid press, blowing up the family’s cone of silence in a blockbuster interview. Meanwhile, she says, “William is very aligned with his father in his sense of duty above emotion.” The direct heirs remain apolitical almost to the point of ridiculousness, sidestepping the issue of racism in the process. For all their philanthropic efforts, the royals were notably silent during the Black Lives Matter movement last spring. “We’re talking about bloodline,” said Kenya Hunt, author of Girl Gurl Grrrl: On Womanhood and Belonging in the Age of Black Girl Magic and deputy editor at Grazia UK. “How does a conversation about racial equality and diversity jive with this institution that boils down to a single white Protestant family?” As president of the Football Association, William has spoken out against racism in the sport before, including in January, when he condemned “despicable” abuse against Manchester United player Marcus Rashford. In the fallout of the Oprah interview, the Duke of Cambridge found himself making a rare public statement to declare, “We’re very much not a racist family.” “It begs the question: Why didn’t you speak up against racism put out against your own sister-in-law?” says Shola Mos-Shogbamimu, Ph.D., the British intersectional feminist activist and author of This Is Why I Resist: Don’t Define My Black Identity.

Snarkyatherbest said…
Ugh im a tide pod free girl ugh P&G

It is curious to me the momentum they are getting - P&G is big but maybe thats the oprah connection. Lets not support just any blog/foundation lets do Archewell - which is half owned by a privileged white british prince. maybe they thought it is safe. but there must be some traction maybe hits on the website? it is all curious
Girl with a Hat said…
Prince Harry has repeatedly described himself and Prince William as “on different paths.” While the elder brother inches closer to the throne, Harry and Meghan are unmuzzled in Montecito, California, on the brink of becoming philanthropic media moguls à la the Obamas, between their Archewell organization and plum deals with Spotify and Netflix. Harry has gone from working royal to working as chief impact officer at mental health startup BetterUp. Forced to formally relinquish their royal patronages, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have pledged to continue “a life of service.” The partners listed under Archewell’s nonprofit arm seem hatched from their own lived experiences, including activist Rachel Cargle’s Loveland Foundation, which focuses on providing affordable mental health resources to Black women and girls, and the Center for Compassion and Altruism Research and Education at Stanford Medicine.

“Going through their own struggles has given them an acute awareness of suffering,” says James R. Doty, M.D., CCARE’s director (the Dalai Lama is a founding benefactor). When Doty met with Meghan and Harry at Stanford last year, “they were very down-to-earth. They were thoughtful, they were inquisitive…and they seem intelligent and self-aware,” he said. “I’ve been in situations where people ask to get involved and…it’s for their own self-interest,” he added. “My sense is that they are extraordinarily engaged and this concept of compassion deeply resonates with them.”

During her Makers conversation with Gloria Steinem last August, Meghan mentioned Algorithms of Oppression, a book by Safiya Umoja Noble, Ph.D., cofounder and codirector of the UCLA Center for Critical Internet Inquiry and a leading scholar on the harms of the internet to Black women and girls. Around the same time, Noble received an email from the duke and duchess’s chief of staff requesting a meeting: “I was like, ‘Is this a scam?’ ” she laughed.
Miz Malaprop said…
@Jocelyn’sBellinis,

Count me in on the P&G boycott. I also have a Apple TV subscription and was just about to look up how to cancel it, and hope there's a comment section I can point to the Hairy Oprah travesty as the reason.

The ME you don't see. Egad, we've seen enough thank you, too much actually, and could Harry, his wife and all the celebrities keep their problems to themselves. What next, a benefit concert for attention starved celebrities who need applause and dollars?!
Girl with a Hat said…
After meeting with Meghan and Harry—both “avid readers,” according to Noble—she and the center became one of the Archewell foundation’s five named partners. “The way that I understand it from Meghan,” Noble says of her book, “is that it helped her make sense of her own experience of being trolled in these racist and sexist ways.” Clickbait targeting women of color and vulnerable communities is lucrative, Noble explained, and Meghan was being treated like a commodity. “That wasn’t just specific to her, although it was,” Noble adds. “She was caught in a system too.” Harry recently joined Katie Couric and Kathryn Murdoch, among others, as a commissioner on the Aspen Institute’s Commission on Information Disorder.

Meghan is poised to reimagine her past lifestyle influencing, according to Tuke: “Netflix and Spotify are essentially the Instagram to her Tig.” Expectations are high for Team Sussex’s next move, with political rumors swirling around Meghan, due to give birth to a daughter this summer. But supporters say the duchess should also be afforded space to heal after sharing a traumatic experience in high public fashion. Nelini Stamp, national organizing director at the Working Families Party, says, “If a Black woman goes through harm, she doesn’t have to solve it for other people right away.”

Doty, who said he Zoomed with the couple the day before our interview, pointed to the vitriol that’s been directed at them even after airing their mental health struggles. “Some people go, ‘Well, you signed up for it. You should have been prepared for this.’ I’m not sure anyone can prepare for this.”

Girl with a Hat said…
THE BRITISH MONARCHY is built on mystique and magic, the wonder of real-life princes and princesses and a life altogether unlike our own. But their latest family feud chips away at the idea of royal exceptionalism. To hear Meghan and Harry tell it, the Windsors are just another dysfunctional family; the Firm, one more toxic workplace where H.R. is not your friend and there’s a lack of diversity in upper management.

“When you’re talking about Buckingham Palace, it’s tempting to think you’re just talking about individual members of the royal family,” Abbott says. “Actually, there are so many courtiers and advisers and staff. They’re the people that actually run the royal household and advise the queen and Prince Charles.” (Princess Diana lamented the presence of shadowy “men in gray.” Long before her, Wallis Simpson told Prince Edward: “It is the job of the courtiers to turn everyone against me.”)

As a member of Parliament since 1987 and one of many women in it who signed a public letter condemning the “colonial undertones” in tabloid narratives about Meghan, Abbott says this coterie strikes a “monolithically white, male, and upper class” profile—what Bonnie Greer, the American-British playwright and former deputy chair of the British Museum, calls “bloke culture.” According to Stott, who has raised money for the Royal Foundation, formerly shared by the Cambridges and Harry, stiff palace staffers “feel like they’re protecting them, but actually they’re doing a disservice to the royal family.”

The labor movement had a moment when Meghan alleged that human resources denied her request for mental health resources, even as she had suicidal thoughts while pregnant, because she wasn’t a paid employee. “In my old job, there was a union,” she said of the Screen Actors Guild, “and they would protect me.” The Firm is “like a classic corporate boss,” Stamp said, comparing the Sussexes’ exit to Britney Spears ceasing work under her father’s conservatorship: “Meghan and Harry actually went ‘Buh-bye, we’re withdrawing our labor.’ ”

The entrenched male establishment at the palace seems unlikely to engage with the racial firestorm now burning outside. Meghan and Harry’s allegations of racism within the royal ranks is fueling a deeper reckoning on race in Britain. “If you can treat a princess that way,” said Parliament member Dawn Butler, “just imagine what ordinary Black women go through every single day.”

Just as the 1619 Project sparked a reexamination of the founding fathers as enslavers in the U.S., an interrogation of the monarchy’s colonial roots is under way, including its integral role in the British slave trade (Prince Charles called it an “atrocity” in 2018; the queen has never commented). The crown that would sit atop Kate Middleton’s head as queen consort is forged with the estimated $300 million Koh-I-Noor diamond, which has a “bloody history,” writes Smithsonian magazine: Britain has maintained the gem is a gift, while India’s Ministry of Culture has called for its return, saying it was seized during colonial conquest.
Girl with a Hat said…
Traditionalists point to the queen’s affection for the Commonwealth, a union of 54 nations including Australia, Canada, and many majority Black and brown member states like India, Jamaica, Barbados, and the Bahamas—almost all of which were once British colonies. Meghan had the signature flowers of 53 embroidered into her wedding veil, a gesture of her commitment. But the pretense is getting “harder to sell to colonial subjects of color, particularly Black people who are descended from slaves,” Jamaican writer Kitanya Harrison said. “The British are very good at subjugating people and making it seem civilized.”

The whiff of colonialism lingers: Prime Minister Boris Johnson has referred to citizens of the Commonwealth as “flag-waving piccaninnies.” In 2018, immigrants who had come to the U.K. from several Caribbean Commonwealth countries during the “Windrush” era of 1948 to 1971 were wrongfully detained and deported. In Jamaica, the Queen’s English remains deeply ingrained as a superior language to the native patois. When recently given the opportunity to waive a patent key to the development of COVID-19 vaccines, the U.K. was among the wealthy nations who declined to share it with developing Commonwealth countries like India and South Africa.

“Colonialism never really ended,” Harrison wrote in an essay for Medium after the Oprah interview. “It changed clothes and lowered its voice a bit.” Harrison didn’t watch the royal wedding or celebrate the representation of a biracial woman in the monarchy, calling it an “assimilationist fantasy.... Why do so many people seem to covet a seat at a table they should want to flip and set ablaze?”
Girl with a Hat said…
Traditionalists point to the queen’s affection for the Commonwealth, a union of 54 nations including Australia, Canada, and many majority Black and brown member states like India, Jamaica, Barbados, and the Bahamas—almost all of which were once British colonies. Meghan had the signature flowers of 53 embroidered into her wedding veil, a gesture of her commitment. But the pretense is getting “harder to sell to colonial subjects of color, particularly Black people who are descended from slaves,” Jamaican writer Kitanya Harrison said. “The British are very good at subjugating people and making it seem civilized.”

The whiff of colonialism lingers: Prime Minister Boris Johnson has referred to citizens of the Commonwealth as “flag-waving piccaninnies.” In 2018, immigrants who had come to the U.K. from several Caribbean Commonwealth countries during the “Windrush” era of 1948 to 1971 were wrongfully detained and deported. In Jamaica, the Queen’s English remains deeply ingrained as a superior language to the native patois. When recently given the opportunity to waive a patent key to the development of COVID-19 vaccines, the U.K. was among the wealthy nations who declined to share it with developing Commonwealth countries like India and South Africa.

“Colonialism never really ended,” Harrison wrote in an essay for Medium after the Oprah interview. “It changed clothes and lowered its voice a bit.” Harrison didn’t watch the royal wedding or celebrate the representation of a biracial woman in the monarchy, calling it an “assimilationist fantasy.... Why do so many people seem to covet a seat at a table they should want to flip and set ablaze?”
hunter said…
@Este – I think I know where the 1.9-2 billion dollars in tourism claim came from. That’s the amount the entire Royal Family brings in annually. It is only a tiny stretch to then append it to her wedding as a new royal.

@Girl w/ Hat – EVERYTHING from VF has been directly pumped out by her people since forever ago, ever single one of their articles is clearly sourced from her, makes me hate them, I love VF. 

As for “The Me You Can’t See” – was this written by Archie?! The kid we can't see?
Girl with a Hat said…
Traditionalists point to the queen’s affection for the Commonwealth, a union of 54 nations including Australia, Canada, and many majority Black and brown member states like India, Jamaica, Barbados, and the Bahamas—almost all of which were once British colonies. Meghan had the signature flowers of 53 embroidered into her wedding veil, a gesture of her commitment. But the pretense is getting “harder to sell to colonial subjects of color, particularly Black people who are descended from slaves,” Jamaican writer Kitanya Harrison said. “The British are very good at subjugating people and making it seem civilized.”

The whiff of colonialism lingers: Prime Minister Boris Johnson has referred to citizens of the Commonwealth as “flag-waving piccaninnies.” In 2018, immigrants who had come to the U.K. from several Caribbean Commonwealth countries during the “Windrush” era of 1948 to 1971 were wrongfully detained and deported. In Jamaica, the Queen’s English remains deeply ingrained as a superior language to the native patois. When recently given the opportunity to waive a patent key to the development of COVID-19 vaccines, the U.K. was among the wealthy nations who declined to share it with developing Commonwealth countries like India and South Africa.

“Colonialism never really ended,” Harrison wrote in an essay for Medium after the Oprah interview. “It changed clothes and lowered its voice a bit.” Harrison didn’t watch the royal wedding or celebrate the representation of a biracial woman in the monarchy, calling it an “assimilationist fantasy.... Why do so many people seem to covet a seat at a table they should want to flip and set ablaze?”
Girl with a Hat said…
HE MONARCHY HAS WEATHERED many storms—1992’s “annus horribilis,” when three of the queen’s four children split from their spouses and her beloved Windsor Castle caught fire, comes to mind. So does the present hypocrisy of launching a formal investigation into vague reports alleging that Meghan bullied staffers while Prince Andrew, a onetime acquaintance of Jeffrey Epstein and an accused pedophile, lies in wait, safely ensconced at grace-and-favor property Royal Lodge. (Andrew has denied the allegations that he forced Virginia Giuffre to have sex when she was 17.) But Harry and Meghan’s potent, public allegations of racism and negligence pose a specific threat to Prince Charles’s long-awaited (by him) ascension.

Reigning 69 years and counting, Queen Elizabeth commands a level of broad popularity and respect, even among non-royalists, that Charles simply does not. Harry’s revelation that he feels “really let down” by his father and The Crown’s recent excavation of Charles’s affair with Camilla Parker-Bowles while married to Diana did the heir no favors.
Snarkyatherbest said…
hunter - just spit out my iced tea on Archie the kid we cant see.

Im beginning to think with enough reading/prompting/pr harry's wife is gonna be like oj, he did it and thoroughly believes he didnt, she is convinced of racism everywhere so no need to look inward for blame as to why people cant stand her
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Girl with a Hat said…
THE MONARCHY’S SAVING GRACE may rely on a reunion. That happened briefly at the private funeral for Prince Philip, where the brothers were photographed walking together and speaking. One can only wonder what they spoke of—and whether topics included how some of the earliest coverage outright blamed Harry and Meghan’s interview for Philip’s death. Another opportunity for William and Harry to be together will present itself in July, at the unveiling of a statue of Princess Diana on what would have been her 60th birthday at Kensington Palace’s Sunken Garden. The royal media seems assured that William and Harry, along with Kate and Meghan—the short-lived “Fab Four”—are “still committed” to appear together. Others deem it “unthinkable.” (Although her due date has not been announced, Meghan will give birth some time this summer.) “Both sides are like wounded animals,” Pasternak said. “Harry said there’s been an awful lot of hurt. Well, there’s been an awful lot of hurt now on the side of the Windsors from this interview.”

Public opinion is divided along generational lines: According to post–Oprah interview polling, 36 percent of Britons still support the queen and the monarchy while 22 percent sympathize with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex (28 percent are indifferent). But only 16 percent of 18- to 24-year-olds back the Crown, compared to 60 percent of the 65-plus set, who believe Harry and Meghan were treated fairly.

For Harry, returning home could amount to walking back into the viper pit: “There would be front-page headlines saying, ‘After all the damage you’ve done, you should keep away from here forever,’ ” said Peter York, coauthor of The Official Sloane Ranger Handbook. After the abuse lobbed at her by the tabloid press, “I truly wonder if Meghan will ever set foot on British soil again,” Pasternak speculated. But the optics of a broader reunion are certainly desirable for a Crown in crisis: “The ideal reconciliation will be if, in some way, the queen can engineer it while she’s still around,” York said. “It would serve the monarchy to show that, as it were, brotherly love, grandmotherly love, had triumphed.”

As Harry told Oprah: “Time heals all things, hopefully.” Before long, William will have “arguably one of the most important jobs in the world, and he’s going to need the support of the person who has been his right-hand man since he was a child,” said Myka Meier, founder of Beaumont Etiquette. “There’s nobody that knows him quite like Harry.”


The end
Elsbeth1847 said…
GWAH

The labor movement had a moment when Meghan alleged that human resources denied her request for mental health resources, even as she had suicidal thoughts while pregnant, because she wasn’t a paid employee. “In my old job, there was a union,” she said of the Screen Actors Guild, “and they would protect me.” The Firm is “like a classic corporate boss,” Stamp said, comparing the Sussexes’ exit to Britney Spears ceasing work under her father’s conservatorship: “Meghan and Harry actually went ‘Buh-bye, we’re withdrawing our labor.’ ”

Wait. I thought she wasn't a member of the union. Did she join at some point?
Portcitylass said…
Thank you, Girl. No surprises in the article.
Natalier said…
Me - another one boycotting P&G.
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Maneki Neko said…
@Elsbeth1847

#6's wife was not in the SAG, I've checked and can't see it. All I could find was the (in)famous 'I'm such a fraud!'. The wife lies like she breathes, I don't think she can remember her own lies so I don't think 'they would protect me' means anything.
Jdubya said…
why are people posting "emails"?
Elsbeth1847 said…
Thank you. I was pretty certain she was not (although I thought she might have after the admission).

emails - easy way to get all of the posts to come via email when there is a new post when you don't have anything to add yet but you want to be able to read them in that format - so you put email and just mark the email follow-up box.
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Girl with a Hat said…
bookworm2 has another youtube out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLaWDW9BDfg
SwampWoman said…
Heh. Add me to the P&G boycott. *sniffle*...I LOVE Dawn dishwashing detergent. I can do without everything else, but giving up Dawn is going to hurt. Well, maybe there's a good generic our there.
Fifi LaRue said…
Don't mind the VF article, VF is going downhill, and won't be around in two years, if that. I had a $12 subscription, and found the articles mostly not of interest, the magazines being unread, or skimmed through in 15 minutes. I let the subscription lapse, and then discovered an unauthorized charge on my credit card of $59.99 by VF. I immediately called, and told them to take the charge off. VF is desperate for subscriptions.

Those two are really hustling to bring in some bucks. Failed Spotify. Failed Netflix. The soap business will fail. Woke people buy earth-friendly cleaning products. The Deranged Duo are fake woke. Harry's wife reminds me of Nancy Reagan, the prim, proper and jealous FLOTUS, with a background of being one of the biggest wh*res in Hollywood. She did anyone and everybody, straight or gay. It's documented in a book, I think the one by Scotty Bowers.

VaxLive people mostly wanted to see there performers, Harry was not a specific draw. It was a hustle for the DD.
Midge said…
@Swamp Woman
So true! Dawn is a really good product and really the only P&G I use. Please let me know if you find a good substitute.
Hikari said…
“Harry is an avid reader” is the funniest thing Ive read in days!

An avid reader of captain underpants maybe. Pretty sure Harry Potter is above his reading level.

Maybe his wife has turned him onto Archie comics.
Why does a supposed feminist, who is "whip smart," need the BRF to protect her? Isn't she capable of taking care of herself? Of protecting herself, like most women do these days?

Needing to be protected from the big, bad meanies who are out to "get" her is the cry of a very weak woman who looks to others to fight her battles for her. If she'd played by the rules, she wouldn't need the BRF to protect her. It's also a bit psychotic that she thought that people were out to "get" her.
Teasmade said…
I hate to just out and out gossip, but I've read in three places now that H was drunk at the vax concert.

Also, as a lifelong avid reader, I KNOW avid readers and that one is NO. AVID. READER.

No offense to any non-readers. Or those who enjoy a tipple.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Swampie

Metoo, I’m in a bit of a lather,
just realised P&G now own Fairy Liquid,
sacrilege!!
“For hands that do dishes,
as soft as your face...”

Teasmade said…
@Swamp, I was going to mention this anyway, but I was scrolling up and just saw your comment about Dawn: P&G probably makes all sorts of generics, so any boycotting might backfire.
@hikari,

I'm glad that you joined the group!

I didn't think about how much I will miss Dawn, but I'll look around, and if I find a good replacement, I'll let you now. @Midge and @Swampwoman, I'll let you know, too.

"an avid reader of captain underpants, maybe" LOL! You get the latte of the day.
Girl with a Hat said…
selling diapers is very appropriate for this shit show.

(I read that at DM a few days ago)
Girl with a Hat said…
do you all remember how they bragged about Archewell and/or Hairy's wife donating diapers to women's shelters on Mother's Day. Those diapers were probably donated by P&G and she claimed that she donated them herself.
AnT said…
@JennS,

Little factoids about P&G's CEO:

Earlier in his career, Taylor was vice chair of the Greater China Quality Brand Protection Committee, a collaboration between top companies and the Chinese government.

In January 2019, Taylor said in Switzerland: "The world would be a better place if my board of directors on down is represented by 50% of the women. We sell our products to more than 50% of the women." The Wall Street Journal noted the company's board of directors has more than twice as many men as it does women.[6]


P&G CEO Taylor on focusing on meeting all the objectives of the UN's Sustainable Development Goals and being "a force for good", on Nov 2018. about 1 minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdd5IBHIybY


P&G CEO Taylor on diversity, Dec 23, 2020: about 20 seconds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ooYbiSGapE
Magatha Mistie said…

Haz more on the level of
“The Bugalugs Bum Thief”
One of Master Misties faves,
when he was 6
AnT said…
I use Seventh Generation products (manufactured by Unilever) -- DAWN is amazing, but....

So, Seventh Generation:

" Our dishwashing liquid is a USDA Certified Biobased Product (95%). Seventh Generation's free & clear dish liquid is hypoallergenic and uses no dyes or synthetic fragrances, which is perfect for anyone with sensitive skin."
AnT said…
@MagathaMistie,

Lol! I just looked up Bugalogs bum thieves! Definitely Haz-like!
AnT said…
So if MM wants to run for top office in 2024, she’ll need a massive amount of money and corporate support.

An international corporation will love having a President in their pocket, re trade deals, acquisition of FDA approvals, clearance on ingredients.

✨✨✨✨✨✨
“Our goal is to use every opportunity we have — no matter how small — to set change in motion. To be a force for good and a force for growth. For you, for the world, and for every gene to come.” -P&G statement. ✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨🥑🐉🧇👑
AnT said…
Whoops ^^^. “For every generation to come”
@AnT, thank you for the head's up about Seventh Generation. I'm so bummed to learn they are owned by Unilever. I have been buying them because they're localish to me and I try to support local companies instead of the huge garbage conglomerates like P&G. I use their dish soap and laundry soap. A friend's daughter was also featured on the package of one of their products for a while.
AnT said…
@ConstantGardener33,

I know.. everything seems to get scooped up by the big guys. 🙁. Mrs Meyer Clean Day is something else I like to buy, along with Caldrea products (which make laundry products and handcare lotions I adore) — they were founded by a woman in Minneapolis about twenty years ago. I thought I was supporting that, then recently learned they were acquired by S.C. Johnson over ten years ago. Sigh,
Snarkyatherbest said…
I’m thinking more about p&g. Public companies need to show a lot about their whole ESG plan and part of that is corporate philanthropy. I will have to look but I imagine there are millions of dollars designated to social justice causes and tons of in kind donations for that bucket. So they donated what $10,000 (my estimate) of goods Just a drop in the bucket for p&g. So are Harry and his wife trying to hit up money for Archwell and instead of cash p&g says yeah we can do donate and mention you as a consolation prize. The key was money and they did t get that. They got an in kind donation of an extra run of diapers Heck if I contacted them or Kimberly Clark about donating diapers to a homeless shelter for our church I think I could get some. I believe our pro life committee did that several years ago.
hunter said…
With consumer products being my second industry after fintech I know some things about these large companies such as Unilever, P&G, Kimberley-Clark, etc - they will buy that favorite brand of yours the second it starts making money.

They are massive and difficult to evade.
Magatha Mistie said…

@AnT

Gene to gender, all bases covered 😉
Happy Camper said…
Do any nutties know (such as the legal eagle nutties or corporate business nutties) if the amount Procter and Gamble paid to the Sussexes via a “donation” to Archewell to associate themselves with third-rate royals will be listed in P&G’s annual report to stockholders or any other corporate filings that are viewable by stockholders or the public?

Harry and Meghan will likely be able to hide how much they are taking in from this “partnership,” but a publicly traded corporation like P&G will probably have a difficult time concealing how much cash went to the D&D of Trash.

Happy Camper said…
BTW: This rather pointed comment that I hope doesn’t get taken down appeared in the DM article about Harry’s wife’s con job pulled on Procter and Gamble:

By Easterly
“Amazing that Procter and Gamble would partner with a grifter who is probably the most widely despised woman in the UK. Instead of wiping her behind with Charmin, Meghan will be using the faces of P&G executives. P&G: You’ve been markled.“
Snarkyatherbest said…
Everyone should google ESG. Public companies like p&g are all pledged to work on gender and racial equality protect the environment blah blah blah. Then they put out their Pat on the back ESG reports and the SEC (securities and exchange commission) has extensive requirements regarding ESG reporting. ESG guides how pension funds and mutual funds invest in public company securities (debt,equity) it governs if you do business with a company. So all are playing the woke game. What I am not sure about is p&g doing something specifics with the harkles in the multi year equity equality thing or is archewell just a mini little drop in that bigger bucket. Like 100 organizations lined up and they are 99 on the list for a nominal amount. I am guessing the latter and archewell is no where near a major part of the p&g woke focus.
Jdubya said…
At this website - @barkjack - Theresa Longo does anyone here know what specialist injector is? I am thinking something like botox??? What do you think?

BarkJack
·

Well well, a few short weeks ago a “specialist injector” paid a home visit to #HarrysWife’s #Montecito #Megxit mansion. Who it was for

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but it happened. We confirm it.
This is a link to a BBC story you may find interesting:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-57060971

Nothing royal but its's about an `ordinary' woman doing a `man's job' ie driving a freight train, who nevertheless has had to find a way of coping following a `one under' incident. ie a woman who has a meaningful life but one with a parallel concern with mental health.

It's a good antidote to #6 and Catherine's brother-in-law's wife.
After 4 pages about improving diesel vehicle performance when I googled `specialist injector', I found this:

https://gmaclinic.com/services/botox-fillers/microbotox/

Yep, cosmetic procedure.
hunter said…
I told y'all I launched a boob sweat product Swoobie (for sweaty boobies). The reason I mention it is because I learned an epic sh!t-ton about absorbent hygiene.

As a result I believe this is all PR prep for a potentially significant baby diaper, cream and product push headlined by P&G starring Princess Flower of Sussex.

Think about the merching. That - THAT is why P&G.

They were one of my exit targets prior to my supplier shafting me. This is the launch to a bigger relationship, that's what we're looking at.

Baby Flower better be cute or Megsy's gonna be pissed.
JennS said…
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Magatha Mistie said…

@Hunter

Swoobie, love it.
Madam could launch “Pit Pads”
“Princess Pee Wee” pads for Floret?
Magatha Mistie said…

@JennS

You’ll fit nicely on his handlebars 😉

Elsbeth1847 said…

We have a few P&G products. I was shocked at how few of them we use (less than one hand). I guess we haven't been very supportive of them all along.

Same, all we have is a dusty tub of Vicks - I assumed we'd have more due to it being such a huge company. We don't normally go for named brands, I'm thinking that's why we've avoided most of their products without intending to.

Here's the UK version of the P&G brand list for anyone in the UK, it has some different products listed to the USA one.

https://www.pg.co.uk/brands/
Magatha Mistie said…

A Middensummer Wet Dream

The effluent pair
Have laid their ass bare
Using bowel motions
For nappy promotions
Wreaks of excreta,
strong whiff of despair
Who gives a puck
If Bottom is stuck
As the faeces of royal ex spare




Miggy said…
@Magatha,

Oh my! 😂😄😅

Can you please write *WARNING* when you post one of these hilarious poems so that I can at least make sure I haven't a drink to hand!

Thank goodness I had a roll of kitchen roll nearby! 😜

Miggy said…
*roll of kitchen towel. (apologies, still in fits of giggles here)
Magatha Mistie said…

@Miggy

Didn’t mean to cause distress
Blame it all on M, the mess

Magatha Mistie said…

O/T but peeing me off!!

Over paid, Overhyped, and Over here!

What is it with slebs from L.A.
Relocating to the shores of ‘Straya
They’ve fled like ship’s rats
Bunch of entitled prats
Sod off back
And reap what you say



Was scrolling down the Express to see what they're running today and saw this headline which made me get coffee up my nose.

Prince Harry reborn: Insider exposes Duke's new mentality on life - "Live truthfully"

I'm not sure either of them would recognise "living truthfully" if it bit them on the arse. Multiple times...
Portcitylass said…
https://www.unz.com/jthompson/institutional-correction/#comments

Read Joe s Walker comment number 6. Unz has some crazy articles and comments are mainly uncensored, but Joe nails it about PW unfortunately.

If Joe feels this way then Charles must know he has a huge problem. As I said before it would be better for the Queen to step aside to better secure a safe throne for her heirs.

Elsbeth1847 said…
Lurking - having difficulty with giving up Gillette.

Decades ago, I read in a business magazine about how they hired a woman from RISD (Rhode Island School of Design) to see if there was something they could do with razors for woman. She studied it. Men use really short swipes, good lighting, can see what they are doing/have missed while women do long swipes, often have lousy lighting and can't see all the body easily. With the female razors, generally they would take a man's, color it pink and say: Here women. Just for you.

So she designed the Sensor for women which was more of an extension of the hand as you know/can sense where your hand is in relation to the back of your knee. Green. I was so impressed that I drove out (while they were still cleaning roads after a bad snow storm) and hit various drug stores until I found one which had these new razors.

Financial records - you can contact shareholder services directly and ask for assorted financials to be sent to you or ask your broker to ask for you.
Hint: It won't be easy to find. You might get a copy of last year's annual report to be able to compare to the next one. The annual for the current year is where you will find the glossy parts where they will be talking of the strategic initiatives. In there they may talk general amounts you can look for in that report, maybe the quarterlies and so on. They are unlikely to make it easy.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Portcitylass

The Queen will never step down.


AnT said…
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Portcitylass said…
@Magatha Mistie,

I agree, and nor do I want her to, but as astute as she is surely she must be able to read the room. This must cause her reason to be greatly concerned about the Monarchy's future at the end of her reign. PW said BAFTA was not diverse enough and his words may come back to him soon.
AnT said…
@MagathaMistie,

I read A Midsummer Wet Dream to an imaginary background of Elizabethan flute music, conjured by your prose.

Splendid! Splendid! (Thwacking imaginary gloved hands together in delight.)
AnT said…
@JennS,

Your new Hot Rob avatarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Appreciative Grrr! Ding dong! I love it. What a great image of him, huh? And 31 years, bravo to him.
AnT said…
@hunter,

You’re 100% right about corporate absorption of smaller firms. Future prowlers, and growth promisers.

And you’re brilliant to have launched Swoobies! Just looked it up. Genius. May have to order for a couple of friends in Miami & Savannah.
snarkyatherbest said…
Elsbeth1847 If the harkles agreement is small, we wont find it anywhere in the financials or annual report. Materiality for a company the size of P&G is rather large. I am guessing that is what Harry's wife is betting on. She can brag its big and it may only be a drop in the bucket for the company We have this big agreement with P&G but we will never know the dollar amount if its small unless Archewell actually files its 990s which i believe do need to list top donors (well especially in california)

for those looking for P&G financials - go to sec.gov and do company search for procter & gamble (the link below is for all of their filings) or go to the investor relation pages. They will only disclose what they are required to disclose by the SEC and the auditors so we may not have a good pic on what they are spending on

https://www.sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=80424&owner=exclude

https://pginvestor.com/corporate-profile/default.aspx

I also included their investor relations page which has a whole tab for esg and their corporate citizen activities I just perused their executive summary and not a single dollar is listed on what they are spending on any of it. The best we can see is the names of those on the committee that approves this stuff (btw a very white committee - most companies i know have at least a token minority in the inclustion/diversity officer position) When looking through the long report you see just how extensive their efforts are (especially as it ties it all in with their brands - and its kinda strange that metamucil is a sponsor of the gay pride parade)

I still think the harkles are a little drop in the bucket on all of P&Gs efforts on this, but harry's wife is making a huge deal about it. Then again if all you have is oatmilk then maybe a small partnership is big for the Harkles
snarkyatherbest said…
On the plus side all of this is making us all know better who is selling the brands we buy and we are getting more thoughtful on where our dollars go. But it is scary to see how much time effort in money is out there being spent to convince everyone these corporations are woke enough not to be canceled. If people are upset with the partnership, contact the people on the community outreach/involvement board listed in the citizen report those are the ones that make the decisions.

Now off to my morning conf call - no rest for the weary!
Magatha Mistie said…

@AnT

Thwacking, perfect!!
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Magatha Mistie said…

@Portcitylass

I’m sure the Queen is concerned.
As is Charles.
Wills comment, more heartfelt than
his brother’s wife, truth will out!!


Fifi LaRue said…
Dawn dishwashing liquid is known to be quite strong; home dyers use it to assist in removing color from fabrics.

OT: Never use Woolite on your woolen sweaters. It's extremely harsh. It's used in old-fashioned beauty salons to remove hair color from clients heads. Use a gentle, earth friendly soap on your woolens instead.
This is the email for Procter and Gamble consumer complaints.
I notified P&G I am now boycotting their product due to their
Association with the Hypocrites, Prince Harry and Meghan
Markle.

Consumercare.im@pg.com
SwampWoman said…
Fifi LaRue said...
Dawn dishwashing liquid is known to be quite strong; home dyers use it to assist in removing color from fabrics.


I use it to remove grease stains on clothing. SwampMan is always rebuilding or repairing engines of all types (for fun). If it weren't for Dawn, he'd have no clothes fit to wear. Alas, Dawn doesn't help when he comes in covered in paint because that rebuilt whatever-it-was needed to be painted. Dawn has *never* removed color from the fabrics.
snarkyatherbest said…
CookieShark - cant wait to see the graffiti on those subway promos! I think we need a special symbol like the taggers have so people know it is nutty street "art"!

yeah, will they use her likeness. She wishes, they wont. p&g doesnt do a lot of celeb branding because they know how quickly that can backfire of the celeb says or does something to get canceled.

ok on the corporate boycott - i am not giving up my shout color catchers. I cant do a load of reds without it. (well I did once and the waistbands on my hubby's boxers turned pink)
lucy said…
Rip to Sergeant Matt Ratana. I will have to look up backstory . No disrespect intended but I did chuckle when viewing this scene

https://twitter.com/RE_DailyMail/status/1392434539486666755
snarkyatherbest said…
lucy - on no not the bench. is daily mail trolling her?
snarkyatherbest said…
Oops - Ellen Degeneres is ending her talk show due to plummeting ratings. Markled again Just love when this happens. Hmmm should we be watching P&Gs stock price and see what happens in the next year? Stock price at the close yesterday $137.15
SwampWoman said…
Miss Scarlett said...
This is the email for Procter and Gamble consumer complaints.
I notified P&G I am now boycotting their product due to their
Association with the Hypocrites, Prince Harry and Meghan
Markle.


I think I will write them questioning the expenditure of dollars to 'partner' with wealthy ex-European royalty. They must be making too money on their brands if they have the luxury of doing this. If I were a wealthy international conglomerate and wanted to demonstrate my commitment to wokeness, I'd get female spokespeople from a poor African nation talking about how P&G products changed village life for the better. (Oh, wait, they couldn't afford those products, could they?) Even better, how about some Uyghur women talking about how P&G worked to free them from Chinese extermination camps, but of course P&G benefits from slave labor, so that won't happen, either.

So, they chose a token black (nope!) millionaire woke extremely unpleasant ex-royal sitting in a mansion in California to 'partner' with because apparently we can all identify with her "struggles" with kicking her family to the curb. Ooooookay, then. It won't make any difference to me, of course, except that I do not wish to contribute to Royal Welfare for people living in a multi-million dollar mansion in California. I'll just shop for lower-priced alternatives.
lucy said…
@snarky I feel bad laughing as obviously the bench is in memoriam to Sergeant but so grin-worthy to watch William's offering to "a bench "

What is blatant trolling is the book fairies. I read somewhere those "hiding" free copies of Hold Still are leaving them on park benches 😏
Mel said…
I think P&G does these little partnerships with whichever celebrity is hot at the moment. Or they think is hot....mm clearly not being hot, she just thinks she is.

Remember when they partnered with Kate Gosselin of Jon & Kate Plus 8?

That went nowhere in a hurry. There was a public uproar and they quickly dropped her.
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lucy said…
btw Palmolive may be great substitute to Dawn. I use Dawn as well but will return to Palmolive for next purchase.
Elsbeth1847 said…
Snarky

Shout Color Catcher is SC Johnson not P&G
Portcitylass said…
@ Magatha M,

I pray so.
snarkyatherbest said…
Phew on color catchers!
Mel said…
The Harkles made a big deal out of their focus was going to be on grassroots organizations 'who are doing amazing things for their communities'.

They wanted to focus on lesser known organizations whose voices are unheard. Those organizations promoting social justice.

Proctor and Gamble definitely fits all of those parameters. Not.
Maneki Neko said…
I must admit I haven't really followed the duo's involvement with P&G very closely (bored) but why would they want to team up in a non profit ;-) partnership when the wife was clearly offended by their ad for washing up liquid when she was 11? Granted, P&G changed their sexist ad but now they're the bees knees?
Peppa said…
@Jersey Girl; I also find it really bizarre that H claims he cannot remember his mother. He was not a baby or toddler. I can remember my first day of kindergarten, face pressed against the school bus window, crying for my mommy as the bus pulled away, mommy getting smaller & smaller until I couldn't see her anymore. Clear as a bell! Also, I remember The World's Fair in NYC and I checked the dates and it ran for two years, so I was either 2 or 3 when we visited. Anyway...

@Swampwoman @Midge; I'm also a huge Dawn fan. I was buying it at our local wholesale club, BJ's. Sorry Nutties, that's actually the name.So, they have their own brand which is a kind of dupe for Dawn. It's brand is Berkeley Jensen. I like it, but the scent bothers me a bit. I'm sure if you have wholesale clubs near you (Costco, etc..) they probably have a dupe. Dawn is great and hard to give up.

I feel the reason many of us have a hard time understanding why large companies, celebs and charitable entities would want to have any association with H & M, is that basically A)they're all in the same realm; one big club or association whereas one hand washes the other. B) The woke brigade is strong & massive. Everyone is either a victim or oppressor. Hollywood and it's ilk are perhaps the largest, dimmest turds on the planet. Yes, they know how to make money, but if one looks deeper, they almost exclusively follow each other's mantras like lemmings. Not much original thought going on there, much like the Harkles. Good lord, I hope P&G will not be offering M her own line of baby/kid products! I think @Hunter mentioned this. I will need a sick bucket (again!)
snarkyatherbest said…
Mel i think they say they are focusing on grass roots because they cant make any entry into the big organizations. You need money for that and the big organizations want big donors for their boards. Harry's wife doesnt have that kind of money to throw around. So if the little organizations get noticed, the harkles can brag that they shined a light on their truth. If no one notices, then no one notices and its not a fail.

P&G likely is throwing a lot of money everywhere (small and big groups). I think i posted earlier that our church's pro life group contacted one of the diaper manufacturers (I think it was kimberly clark) to donate a few cases of diapers for a crisis pregnancy center. Big organizations throw a lot of those in kind donations around. Now if we see their glossy mugs in next year's corporate citizen propaganda report then I will truly barf because that may signal a bigger commitment on P&Gs part.
@hunter, those(Swoobies) are fantastic! What a great idea!
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Grisham said…
@portcitylass I agree with you that for the sake of the future monarchy, HM should retire (regency) or less likely, abdicate in favor of Charles. She is 95, no one would begrudge her for it. I have read so many comments on DM with people commenting that Charles doesn’t look well. (Maybe there is a reason she won’t abdicate and maybe Charles is sick?)

i don’t realistically think this will happen though.
The case of Matt Ratana was shocking.

He was a big, handsome, jovial, very popular, Maori in an English police force, strong community involvement especially in rugger, played for London Irish. He was Custody Sergeant at Croydon police station, 54 y.o., coming up for retirement (at 55, standard age for the police).

He was shot in the police station by a handcuffed suspect (Sri Lankan, brought in on suspicion of drug and weapon offences) who nevertheless managed to get hold of the gun he (suspect, that is)had been carrying. I'm not sure if the bobbies who'd brought him in knew he was on a terrorist watch list (believed/?known to be an extremist member of that faith we'd better not mention).

Sgt Ratana's loss was very keenly felt. Lots of online reports about it.
Our monarchs take an Oath at their coronations and have done so since before the Norman Conquest. They make a solemn promise before God, a vow. Their obligation ends only with death, which is seen as being in the hands of the Almighty - that's the theory.

They aren't secular contracts which can broken. HM made a vow, she will keep it.

A regency can only take place if the monarch is incapable of doing the job by reason of extreme youth or later infirmity. HM is still physically fine and mentally as sharp as ever. Being monarch is not regarded as a job here, as it seems to be elsewhere, nor is it a fixed-term contract.

In George III's case, the king initially recovered and the regency ceased, to be later reapplied, permanently as it turned out.

As things stand, HM at times looks in better shape than Charles.

https://www.royal.uk/coronation-oath-2-june-1953
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger CookieShark said...
Surely it can't be good for P&G if H&M remind the public constantly of their sexist ad that she was so "furious" about? But she'll take their money now?

I would add that it seems odd for a 9 year old to be "furious" about a commercial.
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Something really, really stinks, here.

P & G has a very sketchy and dodgy history. Environmental destruction in pursuit of palm oil, child labor, etc.

P & G are surely aware they're losing money with the H's. Therefore, they're not worried about the money they spend on the H's. Which means there are richer fields in their sights. Like the woke cachet. Is it really worth that much? Seems to be. Governments like the U.S. are throwing zillion$ at this.
Acquitaine said…
@CookieShark said…
"Surely it can't be good for P&G if H&M remind the public constantly of their sexist ad that she was so "furious" about? But she'll take their money now?

I would add that it seems odd for a 9 year old to be "furious" about a commercial.

That sounds like a child who has been prodded to say something, or has emotional difficulty at baseline.

Children at 9 years old should not be so invested in the experiences of adult men and women that they are "furious" about such a situation. That's inappropriate. Kids are egocentric at that age in a good way: primarily concerned with their family unit, peers, and pets.

I agree at this point as an adult she certainly seems to experience rage at baseline."

It was a class project that mrs 6 co-opted decades later to serve her humanitarian rep whilst leaving out the fact that it was a class project. If you pay attention to the details she recounts, they are completely wrong eg she mentioned Gloria Allred and First lady Hilary Clinton and the LA riots.

If she didn't lie about her age, then she's a miracle child because Hilary Clinton wasn't first lady for another 9mths after the supposed time she wrote this letter. Nor was it a foregone conclusion that Bill would get the Democratic nomination and then go on to win the presidency.

Further, Gloria Allred became famous some 5yrs after this letter was written. Prior to that she was a small time lawyer in a sea of much more famous lawyers in LA.

At the time of this letter writing, Mrs 6 was enrolled at the kind of school stuffed full of children of Hollywood players who regularly allowed their kids to be filmed for local news segments. This particular exercise wasn't the first or the only time Mrs 6 appeared in her local news, but it was very convenient for the humanitarian rep she began to build in 2014-ish when she hired the kind of PR agency that can turn you into a UN humanitarian in 6mths or less - Kruger Crowne.

In the 2yrs that they worked with Mrs 6, they got her included in every top notch humanitarian gig they happened to co-sponsor or represent. From One Young World to Wateraid in Rwanda to UN speech.

They also got her profiles in Elle Magazine, Harpers and Time Magazine as well as getting her added to Change makers glossy coffee book that she later plagiarised for her vogue cover.

Her last gig for them was the trip to India.

And once she had Harry hooked, she dropped them like a hot potato.

Unfortunately for her, the world and the Palace believed the fake persona they'd built for her and fashioned her royal role accordingly.

Notice that for such a humanitarians and activist, her passion projects as a royal were closer to The Tig - fashion collection for Smartworks, Vogue Magazine and Cookbook ie fashion, lifestyle and food.

Kruger Crowne won't have her back because of the horrendous way she dropped them and then treated the agency owner after she was royal.

Now that she's back in California trying to rebuild her humanitarian and activist profile, notice how poorly chosen, judged and executed it all is. She's relying heavily on Sunshine Sachs to synergise their humanitarian clients and events with her, but unfortunately Sunshine Sachs is very bad at humanitarian work and profile building -see hamfisted Vaxlive concert. That's not their specialty. They are Hollywood through and through.

Falling back on P&G after criticising them so masterfully in her climb to the top is the kind of mistake Kruger Crowne would not make.

Jason Knauf's out

Royal aide caught up in Meghan bullying claim to quit role in William and Kate's foundation

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/royal-aide-meghan-bullying-claim-quit-role-152843302.html
Acquitaine said…
On a different note, i hope P& G get markled because they are guilty of so much offending history they don't need to exist anymore.

The latest outrage being the removal of feminine symbols from feminine care products in the name of inclusivity.

I didn't know that i cared whether the admittedly patronising feminine symbol on my feminine care products was removed or not, but i protest at it being removed on account of a company deciding that Female symbols are triggering.
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