May 21st, Oprah and Prince Harry's Docu-series "The Me You Can't See" is set to premiere on Apple TV Plus. Let's discuss...
Not much appears to be going on. Living Legends came and went without fanfare ... what's the next event? Super Bowl - Sunday February 11th? Oscar's - March 10th? In the mean time, some things are still rolling along in various starts and stops like Samantha's law suit. Or tax season is about to begin in the US. The IRS just never goes away. Nor do bills (utility, cable, mortgage, food, cars, security, landscape people, cleaning people, koi person and so on). There's always another one. Elsewhere others just continue to glide forward without a real hint of being disrupted by some news out of California. That would be the new King and Queen or the Prince/Princess of Wales. Yes there are health risks which seemed to come out of nowhere. But. The difference is that these people are calmly living their lives with minimal drama.
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https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/may/14/martin-bashir-quits-bbc-amid-investigation-into-diana-interview
Due to ill-health apparently.
I am wondering if the unveiling ceremony for Diana’s statue shouldn’t simply be dropped. The sculpture could be erected and unveiled surreptitiously in the night, with an statement from Kensington Palace honoring her. Nothing good will come of a public ceremony, with or without Harry in attendance.
As an admittedly ignorant American I am left nonplussed by the RF’s inaction re the Sussexes. And that commentary from Australia states that Parliament will never step in and strip them of stylings or titles, or remove Harry and his heirs from the line of succession. Meaning that this already protracted nightmare will continue indefinitely?
For those in UK. How green must be your Spring! With the Covid lifting as you go out more and more. Too, my lawn is greening up with the recent rains.
Trad Americans have no hostile thoughts for your Royal family. The spectrum goes from love to like to neutral/ignoring. While zero hatred comes from us. Meanwhile Americans liked Diana, is why M and their LA shrink get #6 to harp on why he is so "mental" ever since she passed. Pr. Charles is also well regarded here, so #6 tries to get traction here by dumping on his ex-funder --formerly known as Bank Of Dad.
So I decided to look up the term and didn't find it. It's a non existent expression. Except now it's showing up relating to H's interview. Disgusting human being, him and his wife.
I don't even open articles about them any longer and only opened this podcast article to see what drivel he's spouting now. Wish I hadn't bothered.
I think it should be dropped, it would be the best option overall. There would be no spectacle. The royal family wouldn’t have to engage with H, and he doesn’t get anymore photo opportunities with his family to monetise from.
Loved all the comments about Harry's new ruckus he is causing. Feels like they are rushing into a crescendo of some sort and then I figured that it's likely all to make a fuss before their child is born where (hopefully) they will take some kind of sabbatical from their b.s. I know some of you do not believe Meghan carries her children, but I do believe it and I have a feeling she's a HIGHLY emotional pregnant woman who is probably not fun to live with. (Like she ever is anyway) Maybe, hopefully, by the grace of God, they'll shut their mouths soon for at least awhile.
As Hikari and others have said and done, it does feel good to take a sabbatical from Harry and Meghan but then I wonder what the f the two of them are up to.
Lastly, it looks like Chrissy Teigen is being fried by the public. Note Harry and Meghan- these woke celebrities seem to eventually burn out.
Raspberry Ruffle- I think they should drop the unveiling ceremony too. Just put up the statue and if William and Harry want, they can release statements. The Royal Family is really not winning this battle of non-engagement with Harry, at least in the short term, but we are hopeful in the long term success of it. I say, stop Harry from bullying his way into everything and making Charles and William constantly uncomfortable. We don't need a big unveiling.
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I'm coming round to that conclusion, too. It's a shame that it's come to that, though.
Highly unfair to PW.
Why does he always have to pay the price for H acting up?
I was therefore surprised to see the front cover of today's Times and its accompanying picture of PC, H(fkap) and a baby. Is this another photoshop effort I thought. Does anyone want to hear what H has to say? Being a Prince may have its curtailments but by any standards can there be any one in the country or outside who objectively does not have a harder life than the Duke of Sussex. God save us from yet another victim class.
I wonder whether if the statue to Lady Di is ever erected whether some BLM style statue-destroyers will have a go at it.
That doesn't sound like a man pining over Harry. Charles is hurt and he's trying to carry on but he probably isn't sitting around thinking of ways that his recalcitrant, bratty and traitorous son back into the fold.
I agree it would be better to drop the statue ceremony altogether. With concerns rising again about the latest Covid variant, they could use that as a fig-leaf if they must.
@Snarkyatherbest - I also agree that the more H attacks, the stronger public support grows for the BRF, especially Prince Charles who could do with shoring up a little. However it all feels rather precarious to me. Much as I am frustrated by the BRF turning the other cheek and maintaining a noble silence, I feel that if they engaged with the Sussexes, even briefly, a lot of people would wash their hands of it all. If the BRF engage just once, they then need to keep doing it to avoid people drawing the wrong conclusions from their return to silence.
What we are seeing is the Sussexes poking the BRF repeatedly with a sharp stick, to draw them down into their tacky little arena to fight. This is turning into a public spectacle. A series of blatant provocations to the extent that anti-monarchists now want H as their mascot.
I often feel there is no solution to this apart from imposing a news blackout on the Sussexes, to be lifted only when they stop spreading falsehoods (so basically never). Just focus on the good, healthy, happy things like watching the Cambridge family thrive, despite all H can do to pull them into his miserable swamp.
In theory, yes; in practice, it ain't going to happen. Both parties would have to agree.
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He is sure to launch more grenades during that as what else do they have? Another baby everyone can't see? Press release touting super secret Christening? That monetized moment will unleash some next level photoshop (provided price is right)
Only positive in this may be an increase in sympathy/popularity for Prince Charles.
I will say reading of H and his impotent musing of our First Ammendment struck a nerve. Must be how UK feels when Americans voice their opinion on Monarchy.
This showed up in email of random Tweets I now receive.
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I am glad William inherits the throne and Harry the bench. #whatashow
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"My mummy is a martyr and I am a martyr and my wife is a martyr and my daddy won't pay my bills and my granny was mean to him and now he is mean to me and people are mean to me online and if only people who give me their money .."
bahaha!
Yes it seems as if Prince Charles is receiving some good will lately. It was very difficult to see how devistated Charles was at his father's funeral. It really tugged at the heartstrings.
I believe reports that the Queen is ready for reconciliation as it's the closest alternative to royal ostriching and she is, after all, newly bereaved. I don't think PC or PW are remotely close to her in that. After all, they know it is impossible to satisfy M in anything. They know H&M are utterly beyond redemption. To consider taking H back would be to invite disaster. There's no point even entertaining the idea.
After all, H isn't a victim here. He's revealing his true self. As we've noted before, the signs were there, even as a small child. He needs to start looking at his mother as the principal source of his mental health issues. Recognise the damage those issues cause within families and show compassion for those who suffered directly. They remember his mother and the emotional storms she wilfully created all too well.
Like other Nutties BTW, I don't buy that H can't really remember his mother. I lost my grandmother at the same age and remember her as if it was yesterday, even though I'm now in my 50s. H doesn't want to remember her as it would upset his cherished little narrative. That's all he has to live on after all.
But Prince Charles, as the new patriarch of the Royal Family, is very aware of his future role and the need to protect the monarchy.
'An ongoing battle with Harry and Meghan in California is not conducive to that. At the end of the day, above everything else, family always comes first.
No. No. No. Family does not come first. He is to be King if he outlives his mother. The price of all that privilege is that the monarchy comes first. That is something many of his ancestors wrestled with and those who were too soft with troublesome relatives or courtiers paid the price.
That quote above is actually contradictory. Yes his role is to "protect the monarchy", so how can the writer then say "family always comes first". They are mutually incompatible.
I do not believe whatever was going on was to result in actual marriage of H&M. The babies are now bridge too far and hopefully leads to the undoing. Never seen such an epic display of misery, at a wedding! William looks like he could vomit.
*one* smile.
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her face 😳
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I'm totally confused by Knauf too. He seems to be on both sides simultaneously. Moreover, Dan Wootton's idea, reported by other Nutties above, that Prince Charles is using this to entice H back seems ludicrous. So many sources were saying PC is sorely hurt and not in the mood to relent, and now he's been wounded yet again this week by H, even more grievously than with Oprah.
Your take on Prince Charles is correct. With his father Prince Phillip passing away, Charles has gotten harder. Charles has been reflecting on all the tough love and good advice Prince Philip has given him through the years. Charles is becoming lots tougher as he emulates his father. This is father-son stuff and always happens.
So as far as #6 goes, he better start tiptoeing around his father Charles. Who will not be giving him much quarter. Wills will be welded to Charles on this. #6 will be wise to zoom it in for the Diana unveiling.
They (Royals) have sat back and allowed the duo to call the British people and his family racists while the duo were quite content for their wedding and lifestyle be funded by said racists.
They can no longer say they represent the British/commonwealth people while allowing H and his wife to trash everyone and thing.
Maybe it's time to ask them to refund the security costs for their disgusting wedding.
I am very close to giving up on the Royals, what a let down.
I do think the long term plan here is what Charles has his eye on, but these daily interviews and articles are just too much and yeah... again it becomes our business.
Charles II is a neat example, since we expect the next reign to be Charles III. Charles II, the merry monarch, actually strengthened the powers of the crown without obviously appearing to do so. However he was fatally soft with his brother who had a very brief reign as James II. He did not take a strong enough stance on Catholicism and the monarchy and he never seemed to face up to the full implications of his lack of legitimate children. Thus is why he should have been tougher with his brother and what was required if he was to be king. He was a capable man who weathered a difficult youth but was far too self-indulgent a monarch. Both Charles I and Charles II spent vast amounts of money too. Charles III becoming economical in old age is something I cannot imagine.
I've always been mystified why the Prince Charles was given the name of Charles I who drove his country into civil war and was executed and Charles II whose reign was marked by plague, the Great Fire of London and national humiliation when the Dutch actually sailed up into Kent and attacked our warships. That name is just asking for trouble.
wootton mabe wants to stir the pot. maybe he has a whiff of jason's perspective like charles wants it all to go away. charles maybe said something believing this would diffuse things but we know it wont and ultimately he knows it wont. but as a dad, he is always hoping. Heck my mom to the end used to think my awol sister would eventually show up - never did.
maybe this is part of a larger courtier fight - cambridges charm offensive, william looking fairly modern king like, articles making charles look weak eroding support for him to be king and pressure for him to step aside. There could be some of that palace intrigue going around. William and Charles may be close or closer than they have been but william is looking at his future reign and that of his son and maybe feeling embolden in all of this that he would make the better king. so that may the be perspective from wootton and his contacts.
It is interesting since he broke the megexit story and jason may have been his source. a lot of us (me especially) assumed he was getting it from harrys wife but maybe he didnt which if it was jason that the family knew what was going to happen and maybe the family suggested they take a break, and those discussions were already going on. goes back to perhaps they were being pushed out hence their hatred for the family.
It would be considered crown property and they don't want that dirt on their hands in the Markle case. Now its 100% M masterpiece.
I think Knauff may have had legitimate concerns while working with the Sussexes that were not adddressed appropriately. Thus he is unhappy with walking back for the greater good of the RF.
Knauff is clearly promonarchy otherwise he wouldn't have applied for the job. Since his husband was offered a diplomatic position, it makes sense to leave.
I doubt Charles and William wants H$M back as they were/are. What the Sussexs demand is public groveling from the top and to do whatever they want regardless of laws or protocols- but they want the RF and taxpayers to foot the uncapped bill FOREVER (even after divorce). At best Charles wants a relationship with H and offspring.
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@Snarkyatherbest on the possibility of this being "part of a larger courtier fight" and that "William and Charles may be close or closer than they have been but william is looking at his future reign and that of his son and maybe feeling embolden in all of this that he would make the better king."
This reminds me of Patrick Jephson's point made years ago (with the benefit of his experience as a senior member of staff at KP during the War of the Waleses), that the separate royal households will always have a degree of rivalry. Always. It is not a family as we would understand the concept of family. We always have to factor this in. They are courts within a court.
JennS commented on the quotation: No. No. No. Family does not come first. He is to be King if he outlives his mother. The price of all that privilege is that the monarchy comes first. That is something many of his ancestors wrestled with and those who were too soft with troublesome relatives or courtiers paid the price.
That quote above is actually contradictory. Yes his role is to "protect the monarchy", so how can the writer then say "family always comes first". They are mutually incompatible
That does strike me as strange, too. OTOH, I wonder if he meant the larger rest of the family from QEII on down quietly going about their duties versus the two people that deliberately left the family, seeking the fame and fortune which they think they are entitled to, who are kvetching about the rest of the family for money? It does appear to me that The Family appear to be united in opposition to the fame whores.
I am all for the “Stiff upper lip” was brought up that way.
The Royals are supposed to represent the British & Commonwealth but seem to think that this is a private matter.
Harry and his wife are trashing left right and center and all we get is “they are no longer working royals”
I really do think it is now time for the Queen to stand back, could be the right time to let others put H and his wife in their place once and for all.
Have a relaxing weekend.
@ Ava C
“since we expect the next reign to be Charles III.”
I recall it being said that Charles will not be Charles III due to the not so good reputation of the previous Kings of that name.
Could be wrong but thought that he favoured the name William instead.
Transgenerational trauma has been studied in the descendants of Holocaust survivors, slaves, refugees, etc.
To compare his experience as one of the most privileged human beings to ever live to that of the descendants of people who have gone through those things is... I have no words.
There is of course the option for the next monarch to choose which name he/she is to have as monarch. For example - Edward VII and George VI, both having the first name of Albert. However Charles has been known to us as Charles for over 70 years now. I always find it hard to accept the idea of a change at this late stage.
Although Edward VII was 59 when Queen Victoria finally died. I think "Albert" was even more of a deterrent than "Charles"! I admire Prince Albert but there was such a lot of baggage, since historically we are most suspicious of foreign husbands for our queens. I expect everyone was also sick to death of Albert this and Albert that, by the time Victoria died. Was anyone ever more worshipped than that man by his widow?
When I think of Queen Victoria's death, I instantly think of Edward VII smashing the statue of John Brown at Balmoral. I can't imagine him doing anything as energetic as smashing a statue, as even his mistresses had to do all the work. He became so fat aristocratic hosts had to ensure his bedroom was always downstairs and he had to be carried up railway station bridges on his way to his luxurious continental spas.
Now he was a very effective king diplomatically speaking and it's a great shame he didn't live longer. That is a good augury for PC. Edward VII seemed to be forever the heir in waiting. People were very pessimistic about him, not least his own mother. An extravagant, self-indulgent man, succeeding a queen who had become such an institution people couldn't imagine life without her. However he proved them all wrong.
Maybe PC should call himself Edward, despite his youngest brother. After all, George VI had a brother called George (Duke of Kent). I hadn't heard that PC may call himself William. That seems most unlikely to me. I always sense that PC is very sensitive about any comparisons with his oldest son.
I see #6 is now complaining about paparazzi snapping the child on his way to school. The Dope doesn't realise that wouldn't have happened in the UK. I assume that Catherine's brother-in-law's wife called them without telling him.
Prepare to vomit at para 6:
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Prince Harry isn't happy about Archie being photographed by paparazzi on his first day of school#
Megan Sutton
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Prince Harry has called out the New York Post for publishing photos of his son Archie being picked up from his first day of school by mum, Meghan Markle.
Harry spoke about the context of the paparazzi photos and voiced his frustration about them while appearing on a new episode of the Armchair Expert podcast.
The photos were taken and published in April, showing heavily pregnant Meghan carrying two-year-old Archie.
Harry explained: "Page Six of the New York Post, they took photos of my son being picked up from school on his first day."
Speaking about the paparazzi culture that exists, he added: "It's this sort of rabid feeding frenzy... kids don't get a choice; they don't get a say in it."
The photographs were taken during the royal mourning period after Prince Philip's death, a time when Harry and Meghan were presumably going through a difficult time of personal grief.
On top of this, the Sussexes clearly want to protect their son's image from being heavily in the media, often opting to release illustrations and snaps of Archie from behind rather than pictures of his face.
In the podcast, Harry spoke more generally about the paparazzi "madness" he and Meghan experienced when living in L.A. during their first few months in America after relocating from the UK.
"We spent the first three and a half months living at [friend] Tyler Perry's house," Harry said.
"The helicopters, the drones, the paparazzi cutting the fence, like, it was madness. And people out there, their response was 'what do you expect if you live in LA?'
"First of all, we didn't mean to live in LA. This is a staging area to try and find a house. And secondly, how sad that if you live in LA and you're a well known figure you just have to expect it," he added.
Harry said the situation with the paparazzi had become "way better" since he and his family moved to Montecito in Santa Barbara...'
Apologies if this had been posted already.
He said: “There’s no blame. There’s a lot of genetic pain and suffering that gets passed on, anyway.' (sorry, can't link)
1) If this is the case, what is it that #6 is doing regarding parenting? He is being advised by the wife? I wonder how that poor child is being brought up.
2) “There’s no blame". Really? That's all he's been doing, whinging and blaming since leaving the BRF.
These two don't seem to remember what they say.
BTW, I heard that Charles favoured the regnal name of `George'.
He is such a frustrating dolt!
Archie photos - the Sussexes are beyond stupid. With their own photos of an Archie, who could be a different child each time as we aren't allowed to see him properly, they are feeding a paparazzi frenzy. Catherine has single-handedly killed that market stone dead by providing glorious photos of her own, just a few times a year. She has been widely praised for this, so it's not as if the Sussexes are unaware of her success and why it IS such a success.
They are determinedly doing the wrong thing. Moving to California and cultivating secrecy in all things. All part of M's juvenile obsession with celebrity. Now they expect the world to be up in arms about the natural, foreseeable consequences of their own stupidity.
Yet another own goal by H. Every time you think he's hit bottom in the real world's estimation, he shows there's still further to fall.
Singalong to Jeff Beck
High Ho, Tungsten Whining
You’re everywhere and nowhere, Megsie
With your dopey hazmat
Clinging atop the mudslide
In that effin’ hat
Lying to Queen and country
You snivelling rat
Desperate for a role in a movie
Megs, you ain’t all that
And it’s, High Ho, Tungsten Whining
You know we know now Megsie
We see the lies you’re mining
Alongside your wuss
You’re so obvious
Thank you for providing the content of the Valentine Low article. I am glad that that he, and Vine, don’t have blinders on.
Have had a busy week and will catch up with this thread later.
But have one tidbit from my LA industry friend today - she said there’s buzz about Harry’s wife trying to shop around some sort of tell-all about how she suffered the “worst kind of abuse” with names, details, some sort of RF inclusion too......supposedly a no-holds-barred offering to the highest bidder.
I have no clue if this is to be another tv special or a book, or both. It may be total nonsense but apparently a rumor is out there. I don’t know why it isn’t just a Netflix thing but she (my friend) said the story is that the idea is being shopped around.
Thinking about it, I wonder (pretending for a minute the rumor has any accuracy) if it is just another a pity party/PR dash, or, Is it for money, or is it a new “surprise” grenade hurled at the royals. Or an planted excuse for bullying (anything new with the staff bullying investigation other than Knauf leaving the country with his partner’s new job?). I hope for the Queen’s sake it is just a rumor.
Somewhere in the mid-late 00s, Charles put out a trial balloon for George as his Regnant name. The idea was to cement him with his George Regnant ancestors who had quite successful reigns. Exception being George 4 who was hated as PoW and hated as King. George 1 was controversial for being foreign, not speaking English and preferring his Hanoverian Kingdom to his UK one, but his reign coincided with a flowering of modern Britain so alot of revisionist history looks upon him more favourable. And no one mention his divorce!!!
The previous 2 Charles had alot of strife in their reigns and depending on POV quite disastrous ones so it makes sense that our current Charles doesn't want the association.
Anyhue, trial balloon didn't go anywhere and Palace has proceeded as if it never happened though seed was planted.
George is one of his names so he isn't straying too far to use it as a Regnant name. Afterall, both Edward 7, Edward 8 and George 6 were known by different names until they became monarchs and chose different Regnant names ie Albert, David and Albert respectively.
This is why they are all given several names at birth so that they have the option to choose eg Charles Philip Arthur George (our Charles's birth names) or William Arthur Philip Louis ( our William's birth names) and Henry Charles Arthur David ( No 6's birth names)
Despite the curated history, Queen Victoria's reign was not the fabulous 100% monarchical support it is often painted.
She was quite mercurial and often waded into constitutional matters causing constitutional crisises regularly.
Her 40yr mourning period withdrawal from public nearly sparked a republican revolution. There was alot of discussions supporting the abolition of the monarchy due to her ongoing abscence and the social, military unrest in the Kingdom and the Empire.
Edward 7 had alot of work to do to turn around the royal public image.
He did this by curating her image to present her without the darker episodes which shows a degree of magnanimity she didn't deserve given how she's treated him and conspired to ruin his reputation.
Edward 7 revived many of the public ceremonies that the family continue to do in order to revive the motto long understood by previous monarchs especially the Tudors: monarchs have to be seen by their public.
His bad reputation was largely Victoria's fault and her construction.
She resented him as much as she resented all her kids, but she especially loathed him for killing her beloved Albert and set about briefing against him to anyone and everyone, barred him from participating in any govt matters. On the few occasions he represented her eg on a tour of India in 1875-6 she was resentful that he was very good at it and loved by the public everywhere he went. She wrote to the PM that his success must have been a fluke or a misunderstanding
Having been barred from doing anything for the govt and or representing her in any capacity, Edward 7 was left with nothing to do except party. Which he did with gusto and lots of scrapes that had to be cleaned up by the Palace. All the while Victoria writing to all and sundry about her disappointment that he was such a bad seed.
It's no wonder that when he came to the throne everyone assumed he'd be a disaster and were surprised that he was actually very good at the job.
Part 2
Considering the hell he put the world through, the Kaiser's personal story is a tragedy.
Started with his birth. A breech birth so bad he was left with a withered arm. His mother never took to him. He was forced through experiments to either overcome his disability or make it less conspicous - in photos, portraits and footage he is holding a prop in his hand to disguise the fact of his withered arm.
He was then raised in the militaristic Prussian tradition that had no room for the liberal values of his mother or non-Prussian relatives.
Some blame his disability and the torturous experiments for his later behaviour because he became quite attention seeking, competitive and just plain odd and emotionally volatile. This manifested early in childhood eg he disrupted the wedding of his Cousin Edward 7 by challenging another cousin to a duel despite being just 4yrs old at the time.
His resentment of his UK relatives was a combination of being shunned by his determinedly English mother who he simultaneously fetishised and hated and Queen Alexander fanning anti-Prussian feelings within the family on account of Denmark losing the Danish vs Prussian / Austrian wars.
She deliberately excluded him from family holidays even though she invited all the cousins including the Russians.
His attitudes as he grew were calcified by his Prussian education and his visits to various relations became a chore for them on account of his volatility and aggression.
In the modern era he would have been treated with compassion and kindness in recognition of his mental and emotional struggles, but in his era he was simply shunned by his family which only fuelled his resentment and aggression.
Surprisingly, his grandmother Queen Victoria always treated him well and cordially and he was perfectly behaved towards her. He stayed with her in the final months of her life and was at her bedside when she died.
IMO, Kaiser is the great what if......
What if his family had treated him well given their collective adherence to liberal values, kindness and compassion especially Alexandra who adored all her family including the Russians.
What if his mother hadn't shunned him from birth or at the very least stood firm against the barbaric experiments on his withered arm.
Would he still have turned out as he did?
Then again, Tsar Nicholas was raised with all the love, attention and Kindness plus had a loving family and he still turned autocratic as per his ancestors.
"AnT - i have no doubt the mrs is shopping something around. Problem is will there be takers especially if it is not verifiable and knowing the mrs is will mostly be fake but written as her recollections or with qualifying words to make it innuendo and not as statement of fact. mrs could be subject to lawsuits as would be producers or publishing house. She is getting no traction these days and may be desperate to make her mark but i imagine if oprah said yes, she would get a deal but if orpah is quietly saying no (she does have major ties to david geffen) my guess there will be few if any takers. if there are no takers then she has truly been blackballed/ghosted from inside hollywood"
I don't understand why she keeps doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.
We heard it in Megxit statements and threats, in Finding Freebies, in the Oprah Interviews, in court.
What can she possibly tell us that we either don't know or will change our mind and her reputation?!
What can she possibly tell us that we either don't know or will change our mind and her reputation?!
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Yes, indeed. You may well ask. The thing is, if she's trying to sully the reputation of the BRF, so far she hasn't succeeded so she keeps trying. You must remember that we're not dealing with someone who is completely sane. She must be enraged that she is getting no traction so keeps doing the same thing again and again and again, hoping to get a result. She wants the whole world to see her as a victim and wants to punish the BRF, but it's not happening. She's too blind (blinded) to see that her attempts are doomed to failure.
Charles II is a neat example, since we expect the next reign to be Charles III. Charles II, the merry monarch, actually strengthened the powers of the crown without obviously appearing to do so. However he was fatally soft with his brother who had a very brief reign as James II. He did not take a strong enough stance on Catholicism and the monarchy and he never seemed to face up to the full implications of his lack of legitimate children. Thus is why he should have been tougher with his brother and what was required if he was to be king. He was a capable man who weathered a difficult youth but was far too self-indulgent a monarch. Both Charles I and Charles II spent vast amounts of money too. Charles III becoming economical in old age is something I cannot imagine.
I've always been mystified why the Prince Charles was given the name of Charles I who drove his country into civil war and was executed and Charles II whose reign was marked by plague, the Great Fire of London and national humiliation when the Dutch actually sailed up into Kent and attacked our warships. That name is just asking for trouble."
Charles 2 had a very delicate tightrope to navigate throught his restored reign.
The English civil war were restored, but religious feeling remained politically volatile throughout his reign.
He inherited an ongoing skirmish between England and the dutch fuelled by trade routes and religious disputes. His brother James ( future James 2) thought it a good idea to aggravate the dutch's trades so he could make money which only succeeded in provoking the dutch.
On top of which his Catholic cousin, the very powerful Louis 14 decided he wanted to claim his inheritance of the Spanish Netherlands and Hapsburg by any means necessary including war.
Charles was pipsqueak caught in the middle between all these factions.
Plus his father's execution was always a remainder that he shouldn't rock the boat too much to avoid his fate.
His caution helped him survive the turbulence of his era. His brother James was as wreckless as their father and like Daddy, threw away his reign.
@JennS,
But have one tidbit from my LA industry friend today - she said there’s buzz about Harry’s wife trying to shop around some sort of tell-all about how she suffered the “worst kind of abuse” with names, details, some sort of RF inclusion too......supposedly a no-holds-barred offering to the highest bidder.
I have no clue if this is to be another tv special or a book, or both. It may be total nonsense but apparently a rumor is out there. I don’t know why it isn’t just a Netflix thing but she (my friend) said the story is that the idea is being shopped around.
Thinking about it, I wonder (pretending for a minute the rumor has any accuracy) if it is just another a pity party/PR dash, or, Is it for money, or is it a new “surprise” grenade hurled at the royals. Or an planted excuse for bullying...
@AnT:
I would not be surprised if Meghan is attempting to shop around a tell-all book. As a narcissist, she has no sense of appropriate boundaries, has a highly overblown sense of grandiosity, desires to control the false narrative she has created for herself. Also, two of the main objectives of all narcissists are control and obtaining any of several types of narcissistic fuel.
Look at the extremes that Meghan has gone to since capturing Harry to obtain all of these, so it is par for the course to be pitching a book that in her mind, could also be optioned for a film or tv series.
Anyone who has been following this dumpster fire might recall reports that surfaced during the summer of 2018 that Meghan was reportedly taking copious notes from the moment she met Harry, and after she moved in with him, was Fedexing packages of her notes to someone in North America for safekeeping with her eyes on a future tell-all book. Guesses as to who was receiving the notes were Jessica, her friend Lindsey, or her other friend, whose name escapes me, who is a lawyer.
As evidenced by Harry’s continued bomb throwing this week during the Dax Shepherd podcast as he complained about his upbringing, I think the Sussexes are both so arrogant and clueless that they fail to realize that to people on the outside of their little bubble, they appear as a couple of untalented, entitled, hypocritical, cutthroat, toxic whiners.
They do not realize that instead of elevating themselves, they are just digging a deeper and deeper hole. Right now, they are somewhat of a novelty, but they are a one-trick pony act of fraudulent humanitarians. Eventually their novelty will wear off, and they will fade away as Meghan grasps for any contrivance to keep herself in the headlines as she rides on Harry’s royal coattails, which if they continue to attack his family could be in serious jeopardy two to five years down the road.
@Swampie
Yes, I just got red screen saying
Deceptive Website Warning!!
Posting this via emails
What’s going on?
I did too. I can sign on through *Brave* on my desktop but not my phone.
Can anyone offer advice as to whether or not I should still log in? This doesn’t happen with my iPhone but the screen is harder to read.
Thanks!
What I honestly think is happening is MM and/or her trolls have found this site and are trying to attack it.
Yes, I think MM is sick enough to do that.
Speaking of sick, has Harry lost his mind with all his revelations to Dax Shepherd? If he's getting all these revelations in therapy, well, I suppose, good for him if it's helping him "grow" and come to terms with the unbearable trauma of being born into a world famous family with gobs of money, prestige, and respect, but honest to goodness, if he wants PRIVACY why, why, WHY is he spreading every therapy breakthough on incredibly personal issues in such a public way.
This makes NO sense at all!
Makes me wonder if Harry's wife has been reading and reported the site.
I think some sugars have reported this site as unsafe in order to stop people from visiting.
I got the message twice - once when I tried to access the home page by typing in nuttyflavor88.blgspot.com and once when I clicked on the link to read the comments on the first post.
I am using the Brave browser.
Please mods look into this.
One thing Harry wont do is get on TV and tell his he bullied a fellow student so consistently at Eton, it almost destroyed him. When Harry got married he went to a remote part of Scotland to avoid hearing about it endlessly. And he was nothing more than a pothead at school, which he now calls self medicating. Trash attracts trash.
Firefox returns this message :
"Deceptive site ahead
Firefox blocked this page because it may trick you into doing something dangerous like installing software or revealing personal information like passwords or credit cards.
Advisory provided by Google Safe Browsing.
nuttyflavor88.blogspot.com has been reported as a deceptive site. You can report a detection problem or ignore the risk and go to this unsafe site."
Obviously Catherine's brother-in-law's wife or her followers have reported the site, in an attempt to shut it down.
Or maybe it was a google-wide hack?
I just tried going in again and got the red screen - still there.
no, not for me. I just tried.
There was no issue or changes at the backend, so I wouldn't be too worried about the "warning" sign. I'll keep an eye out though.
I checked again, sign is gone. If anyone is still seeing the "warning" sign, try clearing your cache or browsing history.
Mine is back to normal now- avatars and all. I can get to your blog page with no problems.
I did some checking and it seems other Google blogger sites were either down, had deletions, and/or the "warning" sign the last couple of hours or so. It's looking more like the Google Blogger servers were down.
At the backend, there were no changes or oddities. I don't suspect a hack but even in that case, there aren't even personal emails of Nutties to collect.
I've checked both on my phone and laptop on Chrome, Firefox, Opera, and Safari and haven't seen the "warning" sign since 8:45p EST. There may be lags if it was a server issue.
Please clear your internet history and hopefully it will resolve itself soon enough.
Thanks everyone for all the troubleshooting and eyes on the situation.
Yeah, thanks for asking, my hip is great! I’m done with PT and am back into my life. DH and I were just discussing how it’s supposed to rain all week next week, but I hadn’t gotten enough to hear about a possible tropical system— thanks for the heads up! My yard is so waterlogged, I can’t even touch the grass without sinking down an inch. It’s been crazy.
Btw, I have not had the warnings or the loss of the avatars. Sounds so weird.
@JennS
Thanks for the Valentine low article.
I doubt Charles is sympathetic
to the prodigal, appears Val is countering
Dan Woottons claim.
Nice bit of shade from Charles asking
the daughter “does he pay you” hahaha!
@JennS
Just nipped over to your blog 👌
Read the podcast transcript
What a load of twaddle!!
Within the first few minutes Haz
got in a dig saying “probably all male,
and all white, writing algorithms”
what a wazzock!
Also having a go at the RAF.
Army/Navy do call the RAF crabs,
part of forces banter, most civvies
wouldn’t be aware of this though.
Reads as an insult towards
HM Royal Air Force.
I’m ex Army, sticking up for the
“Brylcreem Boys” ooh 😉
The Meh We all See
The you we can see
Is a twunt, fallacy
Meglov’s dog jumping hoops
Dishing dirt for more scoops
We see Just who you are
Chucking muck at your clan
Will need much Napisan
To wipe clean the smear of your Pa
Thanks for the latest tea! Hope you will be around this weekend. I'm very curious about your thoughts on Wootton's article.
🤪🤪😵😝🤐😝😵🤪🤪
@JennS
Leave it all in, the twaddle proves
the pillock is a prat, tongue twister!!
Yes, to me he disses the RAF, would
only be ‘funny’ ? in a Forces setting,
not an American podcast aimed at
civilians who wouldn’t get the joke.
I’ve only read one Low article?
As for Wootton, maybe he’s playing
devils advocate😎
Charlemagne
Despite Harry’s snarls
I’m very fond of Prince Charles
I think he’s a very good man
He’s spent much of his life
Paying penance to his ex wife
Time to bury the ghosts,
and move on
Thanks for the Valentine Low article. I wasn't even aware that Catherine and William were in Wolverhampton yesterday. I must admit if I see a headline about the poisonous two at best I'll skim the article but I didn't even see anything about C&W. The poisonous two have lost sense of reality and cannot stop their verbal diarrhoea, releasing their venom like the snakes they are. It sounds like Charles is not giving up on them so there is no prospect of those two being stripped of their titles any time soon.
Alphabet Inc and Google's CEO is Asian, Sanchar Pichai. Asians are highly sort workers in the silicon valley industry.
He is so deep in his outrage and self-pity that he can't credit other races or people for their contributions to society.
This is why he told a black comedian that he was surprised said comedian was well spoken for a black man and also said London wasn't a diverse city because in his mind only white people exist. I bet it continually surprises him that Doria exists in his world.
`Fly Navy, Dig Army, Eat Crab'
@Maneki
I reckon Charles cut them off
a while ago, hence the Oprah attack,
and now this podcast, sheer spite.
As for Kate & Wills, I saw photos of them
in Wolverhampton, Kate looked great
in navy, gorgeous coat and blouse.
I don’t believe Charles is softening.
Tried Bing search, again no prob.
I use McAfee security in addition to whatever Windows offers and it seems pretty hot on spotting risky sites.
Certainly looks as if Mrs6 might be behind it.
Relax, it's Craig Charles, actor (Red Dwarf) not very funny comedian -
Then he admits he doesn't know anything about it.
@WildBoar
I’m an ex scaley back.
Would sound derogatory
if you didn’t know what it meant.
Craig Charles: It’s disgusting what’s happening to Harry and Meghan
Jayne Cherrington-Cook
yesterday
Craig Charles has condemned the "constant abuse" dished out to Harry and Meghan.
The actor was talking about their treatment on White Wine Question Time saying he doesn’t understand why people want to be so hurtful about the couple.
“I think it's disgusting really what's happened to Harry and Meghan,” h
e told podcast host Kate Thornton.
“I don't know the ins and outs of what their lives are or anything like that, but just the constant abuse they've received… is just unwarranted.
“I don't understand why they care so much about them to constantly slay them — and I think we've just missed an opportunity there about this.”
Charles made his name as a political performance poet in the 1980s, when his poems talked about social injustices of the time, but he says he fears lending his support to Harry and Meghan in case he gets abuse online.
“I’ve kind of wanted to get involved really – but to be fair and honest, I haven't had the bottle and I don't want the payback,” he admitted.
He continued: “I don't want the abuse. I don't want the Twitter trolls. I don't want all the hassle that comes with sticking your head over the parapet these days sometimes. As a younger man, I would have got right stuck in there!”
Charles blames his age for his lack of desire to get involved publicly with major issues.
“Sometimes, I feel as though I'm settling into that paunchy middle-aged thing, where it's just like, ‘Why risk everything for an ideal?’” he told Thornton.
“As you get a bit older, I think you find a lot less things to be angry about, to be honest. I think you find that sometimes anger isn't really the best emotion for it.
“You become numbed to the inequalities of life a lot of the time and I find that the older I get, I've got so many more questions than answers."
The TV star, who tells the podcast he will be reprising his role as in Red Dwarf soon, says that he hopes he’ll get his ‘bottle back and get stuck in again’ but believes that the constant criticism levelled at people on social media is unsustainable.
“We're not built for this constant criticism,” he exclaimed.
“Everyone talks about 1984, the novel by George Orwell, and the state being run by big brother. I think he got that all wrong. I think the state is run by little brother and it's the constant, constant tweets and the constant negativity of social media directed just towards one person and you know that the cancellation culture and stuff like that.
“I think the state has been run by little brother to be honest - and I think that's quite a dangerous thing!”
Spot the ironies, uncritical thinking and plain ignorance.
@WildBoar
Craig Charles is just... thick!
Fools Gold
What did he expect
The princely henpecked
Plotting his life round his tool
Once he’d crossed over
The white cliffs of Dover
Was the beginning, of the end,
of this fool
@Charade
Thanks for checking up on
the glitch today.
Do we have a back up plan?
My dad was, I believe, a signaller in Belgium in WW1 (2nd Batt, Herts) then became a Crab radio operator (one of the earliest students at Flower Down; went on to fly with Jim Mollison in India, then jammed Knickebeine from the ground in Devon in WW2.)
I suspect he also flew on ops as a radio operator at start of war but, as Bomber Command, got no medals for that. Never talked about it - Mum thought he never left British soil but my cousin mentioned they'd flown together in Blenheims.
I was readying myself for work and turned it on just long enough to see dress .what a surreal moment for you and all to view glum faces in real time. They do not even look sad to me, moreso stunned.
@Jenn thank you for articles! Maybe PC did completely cut them off and out and his way of saying H always has home. Risky though as they continue to not only disrespect family but entire Commonwealth.
How tuned in is PC to public sentiment? I agree with the stiff upper lip but so many are seething and although it won't ever end it needs to stop, how?
Positive is H&M will fade as humanity (and Hollywood) returns to work. Celebrities are clamoring for exposure. Seems only ones you hear from these days are the ones paying out cash for it. The usual PR suspects. At store today I made point to check out magazine section. They were on cover of National Enquirer, nothing else, but now podcast furor. I too feel they may go all in with RF killed my mom. The more they get shunned and sidelined by resurgence of Hollywood, the more sensational they will have to be to keep headlines. Bench book tour isn't going to pay that botox bill.
Question for those in the know. Is it possible to leave titles (will never stop using anyhow) but legally remove Harry from line of succession?
I hope H carries on criticising the US First Amendment. Then Americans will know what it feels like to have that useless spoiled brat criticising a precious part of their national life and history. I do appreciate American Nutties on here who do understand how we feel about the Sussexes repeated insults to our country but I think you are a rare breed.
Thank you Ava C
The infuriating truth about Harry and Meghan's activism
Why do you lot hate Harry and Meghan so much?’ It’s a question the formerly royal couple’s supporters often ask whenever the pair trend on Twitter, as a clip of the Sussexes’ latest pronouncement, or news of their latest corporate deal, goes viral.
They think they already know the answer of course: it is sexism, racism or probably both. Meghan is a woman of colour who dares to speak out about equality and this infuriates gammons and ‘anti-woke’ commentators alike.
But the answer is actually very simple, and has nothing to do with Meghan’s skin colour or sex. Harry and Meghan are profoundly annoying. They are virtue-signalling made flesh. They are poster children for a strange new kind of ‘activism’ that manages to be cringey, preachy, narcissistic, faintly ridiculous and incredibly remunerative at the same time. And that really gets people’s backs up.
Just take the announcement this week of their new deal with Procter & Gamble. Harry and Meghan’s Archewell Foundation has announced it will be going into partnership with the American household products giant to ‘elevate the voices of adolescent girls’ in the fight for ‘gender equity’. Apparently this will ‘focus on gender equality, more inclusive online spaces, and resilience and impact through sport’.
The Archewell Foundation is the non-profit arm of the Sussexes’ burgeoning empire, alongside their ‘creative activations’ – i.e., eye-watering deals with Spotify and Netflix. For the Sussexes, their non-profit and for-profit work is all aimed at ‘unleash[ing] the power of compassion to drive systemic cultural change’.
What this partnership with Procter & Gamble is precisely aiming to do isn’t spelled out. The press release talks of 'elevat[ing] the voices' of women and girls and ‘building a better online environment’ alongside more concrete things like backing Paralympic sport. But no doubt it will offer the couple an even bigger platform on which to proffer their wispy platitudes about ‘compassion’ to an adoring media and bemused public.
This particular partnership apparently holds a certain sentimental value for Markle. Indeed, her first foray into ‘activism’ involved complaining to Procter & Gamble as an 11-year-old – about a sexist dish-soap advert which proclaimed that ‘women all over America are fighting greasy pots and pans’.
Harry and Meghan are profoundly annoying. They are virtue-signalling made flesh
She wrote to Hillary Clinton, a kids-TV network, famed women’s rights lawyer Gloria Allred, as well as Procter & Gamble itself. As a result, the precocious preteen got herself a TV interview, a letter from the then first lady, and P&G even changed the ad.
Markle recounted all this, visibly swelling with self-pride, in a speech at a UN Women’s Conference in 2015. Now this plucky women’s rights activist is joining forces with that corporate behemoth to liberate women the world over somehow.
At what point progressive politics became about complaining about offensive adverts as a child and then dining out on the story for two decades is not entirely clear. But that, regrettably, is the world we now live in. Virtue-signalling has become conflated with progressivism. Activism is now not so much what you do or set out to achieve, but who you are. The professed aim of helping others has for many become just a convenient means to talk endlessly about oneself.
And as progressive politics has become all about platitudes, it has also become incredibly lucrative. The bosses at places like P&G can feel good about themselves by bunging cash at the odd initiative or tweeting the odd hashtag, cleansing themselves of capitalist guilt without really having to give anything up.
Harry and Meghan embody all of this. And that’s why people find them so annoying.
I saw the posts too and checked this morning. All okay here and I use Safari. I do have a blog via blogger which I’ve had for over 10 years which I would be able to check access to if Google/blogger were having issues with this blog, or whether M and Flying Monkeys were to blame.
In case things go completely south on Blogger, Nutty will likely migrate the blog to a website domain she owns. So far we're okay. The problems from last night resolved itself within a few hours.
Happy to hear of your full recovery!
I appreciate you offering to check your blog. From what I've seen, it looks like it was the Blogger servers that were down because I saw dozens of bloggers reporting issues across the board. You may want to check your posts because some bloggers experienced post deletions. Thankfully we didn't.
Sorry, but speaking as a soldier, I really don't like it.
________
What don’t you like? ;o)
https://youtube.com/c/TheRoyalButler
I've been following him for years when he launched with videos about etiquette but for the last month, he's been making videos about his memories in the royal household. I've enjoyed all, especially his stories of Prince Philip and HMTQ. He's close and very protective of the family and I imagine is making videos with oversight from the BRF.
Kate heartbreak: Queen consort not to get 'anywhere near' same support as Elizabeth
The Duchess of Cambridge will never get "anywhere near" the same support Queen Elizabeth II has when she becomes Queen consort, the CEO of Republic has claimed.
The article quotes the CEO as saying "the idea that Kate could even get anywhere close to the Queen's level of popularity is not credible."
However, a new poll has demonstrated that the Duchess of Cambridge has the backing of the UK public.
The poll found that more than three-quarters of Britons approve of her becoming Queen consort.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1434614/Kate-Middleton-news-Duchess-of-Cambridge-Queen-consort-Queen-Elizabeth-II-Royal-latest-vn
The more Catherine is attacked, the stronger support for her will grow. The Sussexes will get no traction there. Catherine and her family are living rebuttals of all the Sussexes come out with. A happy, well-adjusted family. The children free from paparazzi.
Every time we see Catherine doing her job, like Wolverhampton this week, she reminds you of all M did wrong. I'd have loved to see M's face if she was sent to Wolverhampton of all places. It would be as sincere as the visit to that care home. I always think of that day as The Incident of the Square Cushion.
The Beeb news has been giving an inordinate amount of air time to #6, without mentioning W & K, but could this article be a turn-up for the book?
from The Independent!
Buckingham Palace insiders ‘disappointed’ as Prince Harry interview ‘usurps’ Prince William’s Wolverhampton trip
Olivia Petter
6 hours ago
Buckingham Palace insiders are said to be “disappointed” by the Duke of Sussex’s interview with the actor actor Dax Shepard on his Armchair Expert podcast, in which the Prince spoke openly about his mental health and his relationship with the royal family.
Speaking to Shepard, Prince Harry said that he used to repress his anger at being constrained as part of the royal family and the inescapable media scrutiny, which he compared to “living in a zoo”.
He went on to describe the moment he realised he needed therapy, saying: “It was a conversation that I had with my now wife, and she saw, she saw it straight away.
“She could tell that I was hurting and that some of the stuff that was out of control was making me really angry and it would make my blood boil.”
However, the conversation has reportedly not gone down well with Buckingham Palace staff, reports The Times, which they felt overshadowed a series of engagements in carried out by the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge this week in Wolverhampton as part of Mental Health Awareness Week.
On Thursday, the couple visited three local organisations that support the mental health of children and young people.
“It was such a lovely day for the Cambridges,” a royal source told The Times. “It is a shame that it got usurped by what Harry had to say.”
The source went on to discuss what they thought of Prince Harry speaking so openly about his decision to step back from the royal family, which he and the Duchess of Sussex did in January 2020.
“Nobody is shocked any more,” they said. “It is more: ‘Here we go again.’ But he should be told that these grievances should be aired in the privacy of your own home.
“Don’t do it publicly in a podcast. Get on with your life.”
Every therapist or counsellor I've ever met would have told him to take out his rage by thumping a cushion before making an exhibition of himself in public.
Unless, of course, his `therapist' has the initials DR?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/go-back-england-prince-harry-elicits-backlash-after-criticing-bonkers-first-amendment
Whatever that tropical system does, I hope it does it and goes away because we are going on holiday soon to the beach. The weather is usually wonderful afterwards.
London Gent, Sorry, but speaking as a soldier, I really don't like it.
What don’t you like? ;o)
_____
I don't like that someone makes me take a stand.
That is, tries to make me take a stand.
That is, tries to make me take a stand..
Who’s trying to make you though? ;o)
Freedom from the pronouncements of entitled and mentally incapacitated thick as planks British royalty is the entire reason we fought a revolution for our independence. When is this going to be brought to a merciful end? Will this genetic idiot ever shut his piehole?
Let's have our say then, and I will let you go (to Wales)
When Harry moved to California I thought of the bitter irony of having a British royal decamping in a country where they fought for independence from us. As a British born royal, he has zero business wading into politics of his own country, let alone America. I do hope someone in the White House tells him to shut up or go elsewhere.
Let's have our say then, and I will let you go (to Wales)
I’m British (England) too, why do you think I want to go to Wales? ;o)
The Duke of Sussex’s broadside about the Prince of Wales has left senior royals bemused over his “woeful lack of compassion” for his own family, The Telegraph understands.
All three royal households were seemingly left reeling on Friday by the Duke’s suggestion that he had been failed not only by his own father but through association, by the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh too.
One senior aide said it seemed “unnecessarily cruel” to “throw others under the bus” whilst trying to make a point about mental health.
Another royal source said: “For a couple that have been at pains to set out their compassionate principles, they seem woefully lacking when it comes to their own family.
“It’s not just the Prince of Wales but the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh as well.
“It has been met with utter bemusement.”
There was particular bewilderment over Prince Harry’s implicit criticism of his grandparents, not least just a month after the Duke of Edinburgh’s death.
Questions were also raised about the Duke and Duchess’s continued use of their royal titles.
And aside from the highly personal content, royal sources suggested that the family was disappointed by the foul language used during the expletive-strewn 90-minute interview.
Thank you. I fervently hope you're right about Charles having cut off those two and not softening up. Maybe he has to now, being the patriarch of the family.
Genetic idiot, LOL. Good one!
I think London Gent is a troll.
Harry, that’s enough of your self-pitying gibberish
Oh, that it has come to this. As someone who felt genuine sympathy for Meghan and Harry – and I still do, in some ways – it becomes increasingly difficult to defend them as they sink ever deeper into the bubbling Californian quagmire of therapy-speak.
Harry’s latest podcast outburst, talking to actor Dax Shepherd, was a toe-curler. Apparently, Meghan got him into therapy. Gosh, really – not Princess Anne then? He’s broken the cycle of “genetic pain and suffering”. Eh? He says “there is no blame”, but then says that his parents and grandparents suffered first and then dumped it all on him.
Hmm… when Harry, who was on the podcast to flog his Apple TV+ mental health series, says “genetic”, does he mean behaviour/conditioning? Also, now that he feels so wonderfully “free”, is he ever going to find work where His Royal Suffering isn’t the post-royal moneyspinner?
People with mental health issues shouldn’t be criticised or lampooned. However, isn’t this new-age gibberish (“genetic pain”) an insult to people who undergo therapy and to therapy itself? Time was when there was a distinct line between those who censured the Sussexes and those, like me, who felt that they had been given a raw deal. With every wallowing, near-unintelligible utterance, that line is blurring.
I agree - that's why I'm puzzled.
I agree - that's why I'm puzzled.
Surely not as puzzled as I am. ;o)
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48419/this-be-the-verse
I couldn't face the interview but did #6 quote this?
Such a pity he didn't follow the poet's intention in the last verse.
https://twitter.com/AngelaKellyCEO/status/1393656179214241793
Well well well, I see that a certain PR firm are trying to suppress the stories and rumours about Prince Harry that are circulating.
Las Vegas was a great time for you Harry wasn’t it, you left a souvenir or two for the ladies there.
Don’t have daddy to cover it up anymore.
It wouldn't surprise me if it was true.
His current PR incarnation that now allows him to somehow claim racism and victimization is laughable. I wonder if the RF were still trying to run Harry as the "Commonwealth" prince somehow and its gone off the rails? It would allow them to get him out of the UK, so any of his infamous "antics" and lack of sound judgment would be well out of the way. Apparently they think CA is the place for faux princes to play naked billiards, claim racism as a member of the empire, and whose bad behavior that is far less than "royal" is accepted.
Has anyone here ever watched Absolutely Fabulous and remember Edina's ex-husbands? One of them was remarried to a woman from 'California' spewing new age speak & it was quite funny. I always think of her when the duo's word salad begins.
Interesting how VF, which has lost stature after Graydon Carter's editorial leadership (when editors were true editors), is publishing another PR piece promoting bias (for the duo), yet seems to be pleading for William to accept JH and restore his favour (i.e. monetary support and standing).
Delwask
4 MIN AGO
if he was my son - I would get a court order for a mental assessment for Harry & Meghan, I would sue for defamation of character, I would disown/disinherit, and be concerned for my grandchildren. I had to disown my estranged daughter and I went to bat when it came to saving my abused baby grandson and my reputation/character. What Harry and Meghan are doing is abusing their families and their children with their hateful spewing!!!
"Blind Item #4
When your own husband tells the world you are the the person behind all the attacks on the husband's family after you have claimed innocence and disbelief that it could be you, how does that work at dinner with your husband. I wouldn't want to anger the alliterate one. The next thing you know she will be leaking to the world about secret babies her husband fathered or had terminated before being born in Las Vegas and Calgary."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9582705/Royal-aides-want-Harry-Meghan-titles.html
I was just reading the article when you posted the link.
This is the best bit and so many have said it... 'The Duke of Sussex has now spent a significant amount of time emphasising that he's no different to anyone else and attacking the institution which he says has caused him so much pain. There is a growing feeling that if you dislike the institution that much, you shouldn't have the titles.'
Laying bare the toxicity that now exists between the Sussexes and the wider Royal Family, another source said: 'They should put the titles into abeyance, so they still exist, but are not used, like they agreed to do with their HRHs.
'They should just become Harry and Meghan. And if they refuse to do that, they have to explain why not.'
Exactly!
I liked this best from the snippet you posted. 'They should just become Harry and Meghan. And if they refuse to do that, they have to explain why not.'
Can't wait for the explanations!!
Lady C has said that quite a few times now.
Yes, I heard the whole video. She said from those that know Harry, he was born angry. It was very insightful and went into a lot of detail.
@Miggy,
Mine too! ;o)
I know some people who have had a lot of success treating their ADD and/or ADHD but therapy was the least effective part of their treatment. They have to have their genetic profile done to see what SNPs are affecting them, have their blood levels of many different types of chemicals taken and monitored and modify their nutrition to try to work around any genetic problems.
Also, certain supplements and foods need to be avoided.
A quiet life without stress is recommended, as well as exercise, meditation and healthy sleep.
But a close friend of Charles last night said: 'If you follow Harry's logic and treat the Royals just as ordinary people, then the Prince is a single parent who's been doing his best for years.
Can you imagine how it feels to have that effort judged so harshly, so publicly?
'Harry talks about compassion. But where is the compassion for his father? Where is your compassion for your own family who have just buried a much-loved member?
And where is your compassion for your grandmother who has just lost the man she's loved all her life?'
This is what I said before, where is his compassion for Charles and the Queen?
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I underneath the article is another one, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are facing a storm over a deal with US firm Procter & Gamble that sells 'racist' skin whitening cream
... But the deal has thrown a spotlight on P&G's hugely controversial sale in Asia and Africa of skin-lightening creams, which reduce the concentration or production of melanin – the natural pigment that gives human skin its colour.
Campaigners have demanded that P&G and other major firms stop selling such creams.
They say the products fuel a 'toxic belief' that 'a person's worth is measured by the colour of their skin' and that light skin is better than dark. (my emphasis). Let's hope this backfires on madam.
In addition to P&G manufacturing a skin whitening cream, there is a controversy about their environmental credentials:
• Harry and Meghan faced calls to scrap their deal with P&G because one of its biggest suppliers of palm oil – FGV Holdings – has been accused of exploiting and abusing workers in Malaysia;
• P&G was also lambasted for its role in the destruction of large swathes of virgin forest in Canada to make loo roll. It is claimed the company buys an estimated 490,000 tons of wood pulp a year from Canada's boreal forest;
• A study by a major US environmental organisation found that suppliers of wood pulp from the forest were cutting down the habitat of the woodland caribou, an 'at-risk' species of reindeer.
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And #6 & spouse are always talking about the environment and their commitment to protecting it 😆. Not exactly woke, as you say but there again, they never do their research so never knew.
I don't think this will gain them many friends.
P&G show absolutely no environmental awareness at all. Most of their products are in non-recyclable containers. Their laundry detergent is mostly sold in the plastic bottles, instead of refill containers. They have added pods to their Tide detergent line, but mostly people buy the huge plastic containers instead of refills for these containers. Same with their shampoos, etc.
And disposable diapers are a huge environmental problem.
Royal aides want Harry and Meghan to give up their titles: Insiders condemn prince's 'disgraceful' podcast attack on family that has left the palace feeling 'bewildered and betrayed'
Palace aides have called on the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to give up their titles after Prince Harry's latest 'disgraceful' assault on the Royal Family. Senior courtiers said they were particularly incensed over Harry's (centre at the Global Citizen VAX LIVE concert this month) 'shocking' criticism of Prince Charles's (bottom right at Prince Philip's funeral) parenting skills and, by implication, those of the Queen and the late Prince Philip (picture together at the wedding of Princess Eugenie in 2018, top right).
One aide said: 'The Duke of Sussex has now spent a significant amount of time emphasising that he's no different to anyone else and attacking the institution which he says has caused him so much pain. There is a growing feeling that if you dislike the institution that much, you shouldn't have the titles.'
It comes after the 36-year-old said he and Meghan (left), who are expecting their second child, moved to the millionaires' enclave of Montecito in California to break the cycle of 'genetic pain' during a podcast with actor and podcaster Dax Shepard this month. The prince said of his father: 'He's treated me the way that he was treated. There's a lot of genetic pain and suffering that gets passed on anyway. Isn't life about breaking the cycle? There's no blame.' While there are no formal moves planned to strip the couple of their titles, the pressure for them to be relinquished demonstrates how deep the sense of betrayal has become in the Palace.
Palm oil harvesting is also devastating to the orangutan population. There was a horrific, unforgettable article in the New York Times a few years ago that is too upsetting to go find and link to here. If you read it, you would never purchase anything with palm oil again. And many of us have probably seen that video of the orangutan raging as bulldozers ravaged his home.
Most junk food, including Girl Scout cookies and common ones like Cheez-Its, uses palm oil.
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I get my laundry pods at Costco but as I said a few days ago, it's all well and good to boycott P&G but who makes the Kirkland (Costco brand) brand of pods, which also come in a large red plastic container? Generic products are made by the name-brand manufacturers and put in a different package, so it's almost guaranteed that P&G's hands are behind them.
I am happy to assist in the Markling of any corporation stupid enough to get embroiled with Them.
She says that Harry's wife is involved in Scientology because so many big players in Hollywood are part of that organization and they really help their members get ahead.
Well, Harry seems to be going through the auditing stage where he looks at his family and how they have affected him. Also, part of the auditing stage is to live apart from your loved ones to be able to take better stock of if they are helpful to you or not.
Scientology encourages their members to cut off ties with family and loved ones considered to be "unhelpful".
It's an interesting theory.
Quoting the DM story about palace aides:
“Royal aides want Harry and Meghan to give up their titles: Insiders condemn prince's 'disgraceful' podcast attack on family that has left the palace feeling 'bewildered and betrayed'”
@ xxxxx:
This seems like it’s a biggie. The palace is very much like the White House in that when the royal family, and I think in this case, it means HMTQ or Charles wants something to be said in public without them saying it directly, they use a reputable source to convey the messaging for them. Sometimes it is someone who is known as a close friend of the RF or in this case, the source is royal aides, who would normally not utter a peep unless it somehow had the approval from HMTQ or Charles or both.
Here in the States, if the White House wants to float a trial balloon or to release uncomfortable information or a position without taking direct responsibility for it, it will come from unnamed staff, or a trusted Senator, member of the House of Representatives, or from a Cabinet-level source.
This is similar to Meghan using Omid Scobie or People magazine to do her bidding.
It provides the cover of distancing and plausible deniability for the original source if the uproar is too much or unforeseen negative fallout happens.
As I recall, the RF used this tactic to deal with Diana when her marriage to Charles has turned into an outright dumpster fire.
And this may exactly be what is happening with the Sussexes. Happy third anniversary.
Perhaps it will be known in history as their turd anniversary.
@JennS, and others,
Thanks for the info on the weird red screen thing — I got it on my iPad too, and then didn’t bother coming back here until about an hour ago.
Glad to hear from others who experienced it, and that it seems to have been a standard glitch.....
Now.....the Dan Wootton article about the “royal source” comments about PC struck me thus way:
1. An astute PR move PC really had to make, in order to look sympathetic, and kindly to underline H’s cruelty and tawdriness.
2. It also helps PC to look more “together” than his son (via the idea he is aware there is an issue that will take years to address)
3. Usefully, it hints that PC knew his son has lifelong “issues” and so this terrible whiny behavior doesn’t surprise PC, it saddens him, but he will try to find a solution — and this gives the public a peek into why the BRF have done nothing so far: Harry has huge, huge issues
4. The “huge issues” underscore the main luck that William will be King someday, not troubled Harry—- which may make Meghan shriek at the want this gambit has backfired on them — and she is now, publicly, reduced to the smirking bride of the family idiot
5. ....while smoothly showing a kind old King sandwiched between a very troubled late wife and very troubled son
At first I felt huffy about the Wootton piece, and its apparent attempt to hint at a future for the Harkles. But then I reread it. And I see a couple of decades stretching slowly ahead like a lazy river while PCharles puts forth an image of a man trying to think of “what to do with” the Harkles. Nothing will be opened for them. No welcome will happen. Then they will be passed to William, who will simply throw them aside (if they haven’t imploded on their own by then).
I totally agree with you — this is BIG, and the work of someone like the Queen. This is the smack down, released by aides.
And, I think it is from the Queen and William because as per my comment above, I think Charles is busy positioning himself as the kindly, patient, astute future king who happens to be coping with a troubled son.
Baby Diana may get to be born to two common normal “freed” people after all!
Given the reaction his comments inspired, Maybe Harry can pitch Netflix on a series where he breaks down and criticizes the Bill of Rights?" That might be interesting. I would watch.
Referring to his father's 'unhappy' time at Gordonstoun school in Scotland – which Charles described as 'Colditz in kilts' – Harry added: 'Suddenly I started to piece it all together and go, OK, so this is where he went to school.
'This is what happened. I know this bit about his life. I also know that's connected to his parents. So that means that he's treated me the way that he was treated, which means how can I change that for my own kids?'
This example just doesn't make sense. Unlike his father, H was sent to a far more privileged school in terms of the way of life, on his family's doorstep rather than the far north of Scotland. Although I happen to think H would have been far more suited to Gordonstoun, Prince Charles was doing what he thought was best and was certainly not inflicting what he suffered on his son. Quite the opposite.
In fact, H is the one who is reverting back to what his father suffered and indeed making it worse. Prince Charles was at school around 500 miles away from his family in London. Archie is thousands of miles away from his wider family. The family who understands what it is to be born royal. Instead Archie has his rather mysterious maternal grandmother who was often absent from her daughter's childhood life. And that's it. Great work H.
As an American, I find his mouthing off about our Constitution (about which he clearly states he doesn't understand, yet he feels entitled to criticize parts of as "bonkers)to be plain ignorant. And rude, crass, immature, and furthermore shows his complete lack of any intelligence.
Any Ex-Pat would (or should) know better than to get involved in politics when one is a guest. In Central America, Ex-Pat foreigners can get shot for "meddling" in local politics. I am serious.
What Harry should know is that many (if not most Americans who served and/or their families) would tell him that our First Amendment gives you the right to say most anything (except falsely yelling "fire" in a crowded theater), and many Americans gave their lives to provide this freedom for our fellow Americans and guests. Harry's First Amendment right, on US soil, to mouth off like an idiot, was paid for with blood and treasure.
AND we do not appreciate some dilettante and woke joke of a Prince opining with his stupid, ignorant word salad. And certainly not supporting the WOKE notions of censoring or squashing our free speech which he, Megs, and the woke crowd don't like. THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT WORKS. And until such time as he appreciates the freedoms we supply to ALL of our citizens and guests, he should leave, or be quiet, or both.
Truly, I'd like to see him deported. I suppose you have figured out by now we've had quite enough of Harry's s***show here in the US. I so feel for HMTQ and the rest of the Royal Family. It's past time to remove the Harkles' titles, and cut them off at the knees, which is their only true claim to fame and the fortune they seek. Without the titles, they are nothing, just talentless D- list celebrities.
PS. Sorry for the rant, but this country has enough insanity going on right now without the truth challenged troublemakers.
Now the Sussexes are in America, the First Amendment is quite naturally targeted. They are astonishingly authoritarian. Two beings who more properly belong in past centuries.
I was reading Dickens' A Tale of Two Cities earlier this year and there's an unforgettable portrayal of an ancien regime French aristocrat who showed nothing but contempt for the people who built the houses and grew the food essential for life. He himself was a vast consumer yet produced nothing. Helped nobody.
We now have two 21st century equivalents blighting our lives on a regular basis. The people who defend and support them are their court. It seems we need to fight for the principles of the French Revolution and the American War of Independence all over again, but this time as farce.
I saw a photo last night of the Cambridges and H in 2013. It really hit me that this was before M. The world before M. We didn't know what was coming, or how lucky we were then. I also noticed H had his scowling petulant look even then. A kind of selfish intensity. But it didn't matter. He didn't yet have the training in how to sow dissension and division. How to create worry, anger, fear and grief. He was like a pile of damp gunpowder. Unable to really harm aanyone even though he wanted to. Then he married a demolition expert.
The Sussexes war against the UK press is really a war against the UK people as they will keep calling the Sussexes out on their extravagance and hypocrisy. To paraphrase what Lady C said yesterday, as far as the Sussexes are concerned, the ordinary little people should know their place!
I see the same from America. That the Montecito Sussexes are at war against the British public. Their current mode is to use the British public as racist punching bags. #6 and wife hate the DM because the comment sections show the real temperature of tax paying British. Add into their toxic stew, by extension, their war against the British Royal Family too.
@Happy Camper,
I totally agree with you — this is BIG, and the work of someone like the Queen. This is the smack down, released by aides.
And, I think it is from the Queen and William because as per my comment above, I think Charles is busy positioning himself as the kindly, patient, astute future king who happens to be coping with a troubled son.
@AnT: I think you’re on the right track as far as Charles positioning himself as the “good guy,” but as you know, there is usually also a “bad guy” lurking about.
It seems as if HMTQ and Charles are turning the tables on the Sussexes by starting a campaign of “Well, if your life has been so damn bad because of being born a prince/ marrying a prince, then don’t be such hypocrites whining, complaining, and throwing bombs at the family and institution that is providing you with the titles you are milking to the nth degree to enrich yourselves, and gain increased status, influence, and fame. You need to completely, and we mean COMPLETELY, remove yourselves from the institution that has bestowed the burdensome titles on you and make your way through life without them.”
To truly achieve the freedom Harry allegedly desires, renouncing all the trappings of royalty should even include renouncing his birthright title of prince. Otherwise, it will continue to be a weighty reminder on his back for the rest of his life.
Of course, Harry will make some lame excuse why he must remain a prince, but if there is enough pressure, he might have no choice but to renounce everything and become a commoner “for the sake of his family.”
By telling them they should resign, it lessens the chance that HMTQ, Charles, or William will have to be the heavy who strips them of their titles.
Harry and Meghan want to have their cake and eat it too while also continuously flinging handfuls of cake back at the monarchy. It’s time to tell Harry and his wife the bake shop is closed. No more cake for you, Harry and Harry’s wife.
No cake ever. Period.
Have a nice life as commoners and do send us a card at Christmas.
Cheers Jenns
Quickie before I return to
my soup pot 😉
Ivory Trade
The calls on Harry to give up his title
Would finish old megs,
as the title is vital
Chuck out as well his right to succession
Then megs will resort to her former profession
Merching by day, and yachting by night
She’d quickly remember, reclaim
that she’s white
Sorry, I don't want them back - never want to see a photo of that bloody woman ever again - I could tolerate #6 here only if he is kept in close confinement with no access to the internet.
The suggestion that a certain `church' has something to do with it certainly seems possible.
Am pretty sure it's legally impossible, as things currently stand, for someone to be removed from the Succession. Were it possible, it could cause worse problems.
It can only happen if the person renounces their place for themselves.
They might be persuaded to do it, were the carrot large enough - Edward VIII went `for the sake of the woman (he) loved' but Margaret didn't think marriage to Peter Townsend was worth it.
Unfortunately, #6 has great need of the connection and will keep it in his grasp to his dying breath, I reckon. Should the very worst happen and he move up to top position, I'm sure that legal ways would be found to `divert' him, as was considered for George VI.
Where are the people like PM Stanley Baldwin and AofC Cosmo Lang when the country needs them?
"I know some people who have had a lot of success treating their ADD and/or ADHD but therapy was the least effective part of their treatment."
Obviously i can't speak to the situations @GWAH knows of, but in general, treatment of ADHD (previously known as ADD) requires a multimodal approach. Medication (& perhaps other biological approaches) plus behavioral modification/therapy and if the person with ADHD is a child, parental training has proven to be the most effective approach. Because the treatment components interact and affect one another, evaluating which single component is "least effective" may not be useful.
IMO treatment of ADHD is somewhat akin to the treatment of Bipolar Disorder. Right now, mood stabilizing drugs are a central focus of treatment for Bipolar. But that does not mean talk therapy isn't useful too. Talk therapy may help to ensure needed medication compliance, it may help to spot festering episodes of mania before they become full-blown and potentially quite dangerous, it may help to provide coping mechanisms to ward off milder depression symptoms (especially true of cognitive therapy), and it may to provide the client with needed insight to deal with the life consequences of having a chronic mental disorder. Certainly if two matched groups of people with Bipolar were formed and one group received medication and one group received talk therapy, the first group would show far fewer symptoms of Bipolar than the second group. So one might be tempted to say therapy isn't effective. But a third group that received both meds and therapy would have the very best outcome symptom-wise and would rate their life satisfaction as greater than the other two groups. (And that's been shown in repeated studies.)
I don't know if Harry has ADHD or has a learning disorder or some other diagnoses. I do know he's told some porkies about therapy though. In an interview years ago he credited Will with telling him to get therapy.
In 2017 Harry spoke about being in therapy for over two years.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ceciliarodriguez/2017/04/18/prince-harry-opens-up-about-his-20-years-of-mental-struggle/
"Harry said that things started to change when he was able to evoke the loss of his mother and his inner anger with specialized therapists, especially in recent years, and to open up to the emotions he had kept bottled up.
He sought professional help on the advice of several relatives, particularly of his brother, who also was deeply wounded by the death of Diana and was suffering from watching his brother struggle.
“It’s all about clicking,” Harry acknowledged. “For me, my brother – God bless him – has been an enormous support."
Now he says Meghan, not his family, made him understand he initially needed therapy. Both those reports came directly from Harry. At least one was a lie.
There are also all the other reports that may or may not be true. That Harry was really in therapy for 7 years, that Doria convinced H to give up anti-depressant medication (Doria who hasn't even managed to get a social worker license yet much less any sort of license to practice medicine), and so forth. While there are bad therapists out there just as is the case for any profession, I doubt Harry could have been engaged in meaningful therapy for years. His deployments may have been suspect and quite "atypical," but I'm pretty sure civilian therapists weren't deployed with him to Afghanistan, and by 2017, he'd been out of the service for two years. So I doubt he was still seeing a military therapist. Personally I suspect H's commitment to therapy mirrors his commitment to everything else--it's pretty non-existent. And I suspects he "self-medicates" and has for years.
Rumour had it that £37m was earmarked originally in the royal accounts, in case of a divorce settlement. We know now that such a sum wouldn't keep her going for very long, even on her own.
I doubt they’d be willing to give TW what she’d demand. And there’s no way she’d ever be capable of honoring any kind of non-disclosure agreement. It would be great if the RF could produce an M15 dossier on her and threaten to make the information public unless she gives up the whole kit and kaboodle (titles, stylings, $$$, etc.) I realize that’s a fantasy but a girl can dream.