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Open Post: The Sussexes We Can't See

May 21st, Oprah and Prince Harry's Docu-series "The Me You Can't See" is set to premiere on Apple TV Plus. Let's discuss...

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Miggy said…
I don't recall seeing this posted but if it was - apologies!

New HARRYMARKLE.

Harry’s Podcast Takes The P

https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2021/05/15/harrys-podcast-takes-the-p/
@ Rebecca

That's what I think too - can't trust her an inch.

Paying blackmailers only encourages them to step up their demands. The only way (usually) is to catch, charge, convict & incarcerate them.
Ava C said…
Just read an article in the Express saying that the phone's not ringing for William. He should be getting the invitations to glitzy events but his younger brother is getting them instead.

A perfect example of what is now a profound cultural misunderstanding. Hasn't the recent election here shown how turned off ordinary people are by that world? The sanctimonious hypocrisy. The maddening, ridiculous vocabulary. The way their thought police are spoiling our lives. We don't WANT our future king to spend his time with people like that! We want him to be in places like Wolverhampton. Listening and learning. Not preaching.
R_O said…
Genetic pain and suffering? Perhaps he meant generational pain and suffering but somehow forgot his script. The Harkles are preaching about compassion all the time. How about they show compassion to Harry’s dad and his grandparents who did the best they can under their circumstance to raise their children? If the Harkles really want to speak about mental health not only for awareness but help people heal, maybe they should get a PhD first. Airing your dirty laundry in public and focusing on blaming other people and having the perpetual victim mindset will never help them heal. Everything they say online and in public is going to have repercussions on Archie and his baby sister in the future. Imagine teaching your children to trash and disrespect their family and ancestors. How will that help the kids to grow with compassion?
Maneki Neko said…
@Blonde Gator 7.11 am

There is no need to apologise for your post, I can understand your annoyance and frustration. #6 is a loose cannon and should have, but doesn't, the intelligence and sensitivity to keep quiet instead of insulting the host country. It looks just as bad this side of the pond. I apologise on behalf of my fellow Brits for his crass behaviour.
Ava C said…
Just read Harry Markle's latest. A good point is made that there is an issue BP is not acknowledging. That while H still has his titles he has the platform to spread inaccurate, misleading information and people will pay attention to what he says in a way they would not otherwise. BP seems to think that now he is 'not a working royal' that is somehow sufficient. Well it isn't. The world is not made up of royal nerds. They don't see that distinction.

The BP owes a duty to people and needs to act. The way I did when I discovered that a postgraduate briefly visiting the very illustrious university I worked for, was then planning to advertise his work with the University's coat of arms. All organisations need to protect their reputations and prevent misrepresentation. BP are standing back and watching H run wild. Not entirely dissimilar to Oprah's abdication of responsibility.
Ava C said…
Charles to open up palaces to the public when he becomes king – reports

Prince of Wales is said to want Buckingham Palace, Sandringham and other royal homes to go from ‘private spaces to public places’


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/16/charles-to-open-up-palaces-to-the-public-when-he-becomes-king-reports

Some happy news for a change. If it's true and there's no reason to doubt it, given that the public can at times visit the gardens at Highgrove.

We need more of this. It fits in with Prince Charles' sincerely-held views on the importance of the environment for people's health and happiness. It's a very effective counter too, to Fortress Sussex. He won't be doing it for that reason, but it's a calming antidote to what they represent all the same.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Ava C said...

The BP owes a duty to people and needs to act. The way I did when I discovered that a postgraduate briefly visiting the very illustrious university I worked for, was then planning to advertise his work with the University's coat of arms. All organisations need to protect their reputations and prevent misrepresentation.

BP are standing back and watching H run wild. Not entirely dissimilar to Oprah's abdication of responsibility.

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^^ This.
Have you seen the photos of the `elephants' in the Mall?

https://www.indy100.com/news/joanna-lumley-royal-parks-buckingham-palace-london-indian-b1848084 for example.

Unfortunately, they are captioned as if the Royals are being given the message - this would never have happened without a Royal Blessing. I think it may be a nicely-timed art piece acting as an attention-diverter -

Nice one!
Ava C said…
Meghan Markle's BFF Jessica Mulroney says 'reframing an experience can keep you alive' in cryptic Instagram post after Prince Harry spoke of 'genetic pain and suffering' in royal family

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9584203/Meghan-Markles-best-friend-Jessica-Mulroney-speaks-mental-health-days-Prince-Harry.html

"Reframing". LOL. With friends like these you don't need enemies ...

@Lt Nyota Uhura - I'm glad my post about BP's responsibilities chimed with you. I think this is a clear, objective point amongst the maelstrom of emotions and opinions. There are such things as facts. Such a thing as truth. BP is failing by omission. Allowing falsehoods to multiply and spread across the world. I don't want to see the Cambridges in a social media competition with the Sussexes which would only demean them. I want a plain statement of facts, issued from BP. That's all it takes. A clear, simple rebuttal that will be widely reported as a matter of course. Repeat as required.

There's an article out today that goes into great detail about Lord Geidt and why he was so valuable to the BRF. I know he is now more than fully employed advising our flamboyant PM on ethics but the best thing that could happen is that BP makes him an offer he can't refuse.
Miggy said…
Hahahaha... some great comments in this thread.

https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/status/1393815980313223169
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Ava C said...
Meghan Markle's BFF Jessica Mulroney says 'reframing an experience can keep you alive' in cryptic Instagram post after Prince Harry spoke of 'genetic pain and suffering' in royal family

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9584203/Meghan-Markles-best-friend-Jessica-Mulroney-speaks-mental-health-days-Prince-Harry.html

"Reframing". LOL. With friends like these you don't need enemies ...

@Lt Nyota Uhura - I'm glad my post about BP's responsibilities chimed with you. I think this is a clear, objective point amongst the maelstrom of emotions and opinions. There are such things as facts. Such a thing as truth. BP is failing by omission. Allowing falsehoods to multiply and spread across the world. I don't want to see the Cambridges in a social media competition with the Sussexes which would only demean them. I want a plain statement of facts, issued from BP. That's all it takes. A clear, simple rebuttal that will be widely reported as a matter of course. Repeat as required.
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As you said, and nothing extra is required.


AnT said…
Hm,

Since the wokes think we need to do away with gender-specific “triggering” terms....

And since the wokes passionately embrace the Harkles,

When can we expect the wokes to remove the sexist, gender-specific “Duke” and “Duchess” labels themselves, saving HMQ the problem?

CookieShark said…
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AnT said…
My take on Jessica’s approach to “reframing”:

We weren’t given a new Jag on the Harkle tour down under, it followed us home.

Charles was kind enough to give us large monetary rewards for the beauty of each of the dresses we returned to the vendors.

H kindly gave Markus business loans, he didn’t pay to meet him, with M, in rooms at Soho House.

If I tell Lainey anything, it is only between friends.

My brother, Harvard professor of epidemiology, John Brownstein, just happened to be the first guy to alert the world to a Wuhan pandemic on Dec 30, 2019, using his computerized HealthMap system.

I am honored to be the wise guiding mother MM never had, even though I am MM’s age.

🌺



Maneki Neko said…
The DM has this headline

'Children's authors hit out at publishers for giving stars like Meghan Markle 'whopping advances' based on 'status' - and say many books by celebrities end up being 'absolute disasters''

This may well be the fate of #6's spouse's book. Meanwhile, there is a very good comment:

Alonzo Quijana, Miami Beach, United States, about a minute ago

Is there such a thing as "world salad" for children? Like the usual mumbo-jumbo but with one and two-syllable words? Little boy: "Daddy looks sad. Why is Daddy sad?" Okra, the friendly neighbor looking over the fence: "His grandpa and granny were bad. Bad grandpa. Bad granmy! Daddy's daddy was mean too. He did not give your Daddy enough candy!

Anonymous said…
@AvaC

All organisations need to protect their reputations and prevent misrepresentation. BP are standing back and watching H run wild. Not entirely dissimilar to Oprah's abdication of responsibility.

Very true!
lucy said…
Prince Charles's hands look so painful in this pic https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/NINTCHDBPICT000648161880.jpg?strip=all&w=659

Speaking as American I really like PC. We adored Princess Diana but I get the sense there is still extreme level of animosity regarding affair, not here. From my point of view he didn't run off with 20 year old floozy . Yes he was in the wrong. But he married her. He loved her and together they have diligently served and represented with integrity, for decades. Seems Camilla is still viewed as villain. I have great empathy for her . So many years later and all she has accomplished yet continues to suffer soiled reputation. How come animosity is so deep and longstanding? Or is it not as intense as I believe?

Best line coming from "royal aide" is give up the titles or tell us why not. It is fantastic, perhaps a turning point even and I think it came from Camilla.
@Lucy

Yes, PC's hands do look in quite a state - and he's holding them in the position most likely to make them swell.

I felt for him during the War of the Waleses - he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't - Diana was perceived as incapable of contributing to their unhappiness and the odds were stacked against him. Defending himself would have been counterproductive IMO. Apparently, he tried to get her professional help but otherwise couldn't cope with her - I doubt if many people could.

His later concern to rehabilitate Camilla in the view of the public is entirely understandable. Even now, I anticipate there'll be ill-feeling towards his Duchess when the time comes for him to ascend the throne. At times, it looked as if he might have to relinquish his place if the feeling remained as bitter as ever it did in '97, when it seemed we might be on the verge of revolution.

Whether the style of Princess Consort, rather than Queen, will placate the critics remains to be seen. I recall still overhearing venom when she and Charles married, six years after D's death.

Whether the critics have mellowed/died, or if it's all been stirred up again by a parvenu troublemaker and a perfidious prince, we shan't know until the time comes.

As another poster said, thank God William was the firstborn.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Prince Charles will be the Invisible King.
Anonymous said…
I liked this comment on another blog:

How hard is the citizenship test because ‘intellectual’ Harry’s understanding of US history is having seen Hamilton the musical twice. But then he had one of the most privileged education in the world and his grasp of UK history has come from the last season of The Crown.

Have just asked the oracle ie Google `Was Diana mad?’ and found this:

(BTW `Sir Batten’ is a hideous solecism – it should be Sir John. )

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/queen-doctor-help-letter-princess-diana-dangerous-mental-disorder-prince-charles-sir-john-batten-alan-mcglashan-aNews

Charles sought second opinion on troubled Diana after Queen’s doctor believed she had a ‘dangerous’ mental disorder

Sir John Batten believed the gene could be passed on to her children – but a psychiatrist hired by Prince Charles found she was merely ‘unhappy’ in royal family

Jeff Farrell
Sunday 24 September 2017 17:40

Prince Charles sought a second opinion on troubled Princess Diana after the Queen’s doctor believed she had a “dangerous” mental disorder that could be passed on to her children, a letter revealed.

Sir John Batten was “plainly scared” by the supposed condition – which he said he diagnosed while treating her – and feared it could cause a “dynastic disaster” in the royal bloodline. (my emphasis)

His efforts to treat Diana came a year after she threw herself down the main staircase at Sandringham, following a row with Charles, and landed at the feet of the Queen.

But the princess “distanced herself” from Sir Batten and his team of royal medics who tried to help her – forcing Charles to go elsewhere to aid his troubled wife at the start of their marriage.

In the end he called on the advice of prominent psychiatrist Alan McGlashan – who found that Diana was merely a “very unhappy girl” battling against what she saw was an oppressive royal family.

Mr McGlashan later wrote a letter to a common friend he had with Charles after he had been seeing Diana for twice-weekly therapy sessions over four weeks at Kensington Palace.

His correspondence to South African author Laurens Van der Post came after Mr Van der Post spoke with Diana at the behest of Charles and urged her to see Mr McGlashan.

She had been suffering from a variety of ailments apart from her supposed mental disorder, including bulimia and also suffered low self-esteem and was anxious and depressed.

In the letter from Mr McGlashan to Mr Van der Post – revealed in the Mail on Sunday – he told of the views held by Sir Batten and other royal medics who had tried to treat Diana.

Mr McGlashan wrote that Sir John and his team were “plainly scared” by her symptoms and “overawed by the possibilities of dynastic disaster”. (my emphasis)

Sir Batten and his colleagues had been treating the princess with anti-depressants and behavioural therapy, Diana told Mr McGlashan in their sessions.

She was also being treated by Michael Pare, the head of psychiatry at St Bartholomew’s Hospital, London.

But Mr McGlashan believed Dr Pare took an “unnecessarily gloomy and alarmist view of the case”.

In his own sessions with Diana, he concluded: “She is a very unhappy girl, facing situations on various fronts which she finds difficult to deal with, though making a courageous effort to do so.”

It is not known how Charles reacted to Mr McGlashan’s findings, but the prince himself later spent 14 years in therapy with the psychiatrist, who died in 1998, and keeps a bust of him in Highgrove.


BTW There’s a link to:
• BBC obit editor 'calls 20th anniversary Diana coverage mawkish drivel'

Which of the medics do you think was closest to the truth?

There is some epidemiological evidence, based on mathematical correlation) that some familial mental conditions have a heritable cause, rather just the effect of being brought up in such a family.

Kings College London, though, is running a long-term research programme at the moment (GLAD study - Genetic Links to Anxiety and Depression) - which starts with taking saliva samples from volunteers and sequencing the DNA. Volunteers are then sent regular questionnaires about mood etc. I've no idea when they'll publish.

See: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/research/glad
Maneki Neko said…
@WBBM said

As another poster said, thank God William was the firstborn.
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That is certainly true but to this I would add thank God William didn't inherit his mother's intellectual and emotional dispositions.
Then there’s this:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/was-diana-mentally-ill/
BY TATIANA MORALES
OCTOBER 22, 2003 / 9:13 AM / CBS

On Wednesday, Earl Spencer, brother of Britain's Princess Diana, is alleged* to have told her he hoped she was getting help for her mental illness. CBS News Correspondent Elizabeth Palmer reports for The Early Show.

Diana is now buried at the earl's ancestral home, Althorp, but in letters written to her after her marriage to Charles failed, the earl wrote he feared for her.

"I know how manipulation and deceit are parts of the illness," he wrote, "I hope you are getting appropriate help."


*By Paul Burrell, it seems.

Yes, Maneki, it looks as if William dodged the bullet that hit Harry. Perhaps the RF know the truth of it by now and have been making allowances.
CatEyes said…
I know I will be heavily criticized here but wouldn't many women feel betrayed if the man you loved and just married was bonded to and loved another woman more (in fact this other woman had sex with your husband)?

I would seek an annulment, but by then if one was pregnant, it would complicate things. Maybe Prince Charles should have gotten mental health counseling on why he would do that to his wife? Charles should have never married Diana and he was wrong to then get her pregnant when he loved Camilla"! Or he should have married Camilla or found a wife who was willing to put up with a mistress! Maybe the tide of opinion is changing because society's morals have changed so much. I believe in the sanctity of marriage, the thought of honorable love pledged to your spouse completely, with faithful loyalty to the exclusion of all others. But then it seems I am a dying breed.

Here in Texas, many spouses used to shoot their spouse dead (or the 'other person') "in a heat of passion" under similar circumstances and get away with it. Now the courts don't care if you sleep around on your spouse. What a society we have become, so woke, so inclusive of anything and everything.

I don't disagree Charles and Camilla Now seem like a decent match; they should have done Diana a favor and left her out of their plans a long time ago! From what I've read Camilla spends plenty of time away from Charles at her own home with her 1st family and grandchildren.
CatEyes said…
Also is it fair to blame Diana (who is dead and can't defend herself) for having a dumb son? I know of parents who are intelligent and accomplished but have children that are seemingly not as intelligent or motivated. And I have know people of seemingly average intelligence who have brilliant children. Genetics is not just the parents xx + xy, there are strands of genetic material that can go back generations.

Look at the British Royal family with respect to inbreeding over the generations in past history! Now luckily it has hopefully been diluted enough now in the current one but nevertheless in 1840 young Queen Victoria married her first cousin Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (his father was her mother's brother, Ernst). There is more to inbreeding than just the fact deleterious diseases from recessive traits cropping up.

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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
There is a program in place since the presidency of Donald Trump to aid small businesses affected by Covid.

Somehow, the H***kles have appeared to have cottoned on.

Doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
@Carol:

I agree - Camilla would have been a better match but she'd married someone else by then.

It looked as if Charles was `bounced' into marriage. He was 32 at the time and a Succession crisis looked possible if he didn't get himself a legitimate heir or two. Andrew was unmarried, Edward was only 16, rising 17, at the time of C&D's engagement. Then it would have been Anne. Another generation was needed, Anne's children, Peter(3) Zara (not yet 1)

Lady Fermoy, Di's grandmother, was a friend of the Queen Mother, so they were all for it, as was Dickie Mountbatten.

Also, a 12 year age gap at that stage of life can be quite a hurdle. Plus the intellectual gap. The couple didn't stand a chance. Diana wanted to get out of it, Charles didn't look too enthusiastic but I suppose they thought it could be made to work.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Some links:

https://www.defense.gov/Explore/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Operation-Warp-Speed/
(begun under Trump administration) (quite possibly the fastest and most effective effort to combat a virus in history)

https://www.usa.gov/covid-small-business-loans

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
@Carol:

I agree - Camilla would have been a better match but she'd married someone else by then.
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Why?
Snarkyatherbest said…
A lot of small think tanks and foundations (501c3) received stimulus checks to cover payroll expenses due to the pandemic shut downs. Unfortunately it was done so quickly a lot of $ was sent out. Grover Norquist whose think tank is about balancing the budget and Shri him. Government took some. I know a lot of 501c3s for the arts took money when performances shut down. Would not surprise me if they got $ to pay to belittle staff they have (like directly to Harry’s wife)

Saw on tumblr more about the rumors of the mrs at the San ysidro inn and Harry at soho. None of the rumors talk about where archie is. Hmmmm. Also rumors of her joining Scientology. I wouldn’t be surprised at that. She needs to get in with some of the Hollywood elite so I could see her trying any cult I mean group 😉

Hubby and I are planning a vaca. can’t convince him to go to Santa Barbara and up and down the coast. Oh well. I would have camped out looking for anything 😉
CatEyes said…
@WBBM

Yes, I am aware of that information. It was a shame they married. I don't understand why Camilla didn't want to marry Charles instead of Andrew P-B. From what I read she was not considered 'appropriate' due to her sexual activity. I don't know if it was true that Diana had to be a virgin, or that Charles needed one for an acceptable bride due to the monarchy's rules.

It was a tragic marriage except for the fact. William is sure to be a good king IMO. I hope Harry has his place in the succession removed along with his titles (immediately). I will say Harry using his mother to whine on about is very unfortunate. Hopefully this lesson will not be lost on the Cambridge children one day, that they will marry suitable people (if they marry) who will be a blessing and positive addition to the BRF as has been Catherine!.

BTW Nutties: I have a deep respect to the BRF and maybe it is due in part to my heritage (both Welsh and English in part) and mean no disrespect for the reference to "inbreeding" as it was the custom then (and is still allowed in certain states in America). I just like to point out harry may have gotten some less illustrious dna from his ancestors besides Diana.
I'd add that, in the UK at least, the ordinary `indigenous' population (those who haven't had an ancestor from outside the UK in the last 200 years) are much more closely related than one might imagine, at 4th or 5th cousin level, especially if their ancestors didn't move around much.

The apparent increase in the intelligence of many students in the last, say, 80 years may be due to increased `heterosis' (aka `out-breeding') resulting from people moving around much more, not just that exams are easier. I've taught many youngsters who are far sharper that anyone I was at school with.

Consanguinuity is something we have to be very careful talking about now - it didn't seem to hurt the Darwin-Wedgewood family but if it goes on generation after generation it could be a very different matter.

re V&A - there have been rumours that neither was their father's child.
It's been reported in the last couple of days that someone claims to know `for certain' that Di wasn't a virgin.
CatEyes said…
@WBBM

Yes I saw that too about Diana...some guy is claiming he had like a 2 yr romance with her. I find it hard to believe considering Charles picked Diana (and Camilla wasn't acceptable) due to her virginal status. Also it is noteworthy no one else has come forward to confirm it is true.
Pantsface said…
@ Ava C - these places are already open to the public, I've visited Sandringham House on more than one occasion with family from overseas, perhaps he is suggesting more of these houses will be opened fully, not just the normal tourist trail...
Carol - the reason for being `careful' is that it's a sensitive issue in our multicultural society.

It wasn't when I was young - we used to joke about it in the town where I went to school. Brewing was the local industry and the beer flowed freely...

At one time, chaps choosing a bride from outside their own parish was frowned on:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3091855?seq=1

Often courtship could take place only if the couple lived within walking distance of each other. The advent of bicycle made a great difference for those without ponies or horses!
hunter said…
Given the depth of knowledge I've built around Scientology due to my own curiosities, I highly HIGHLY doubt either Harry or his wife are involved.

1. It would replace MM's hold on him with Co$ (hell no)
2. It would require MM & JH to take direction from Co$ leadership (never)
3. It would require a lot of TIME AND MONEY to invest in endless auditing courses (ha, money)
4. They have a pretty strict no drinking & no drugs policy too.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Carol 'CatEyes' Davis said...
@WBBM

Yes I saw that too about Diana...some guy is claiming he had like a 2 yr romance with her. I find it hard to believe considering Charles picked Diana (and Camilla wasn't acceptable) due to her virginal status. Also it is noteworthy no one else has come forward to confirm it is true.
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I've yet to get a definitive answer as to why Prince Charles couldn't have married the woman of his choice.

I'm pretty patient, though.
I'm signing off now, it's bedtime...
CatEyes said…
OT Alert!

I thought I read (maybe Daily Mail awhile ago) that the UK and elsewhere is having a problem with a certain segment of people (I hesitate to state but lets just say they are a strict religious element and/or ethnic population that frowns on outside men being around their females) giving birth to severely handicapped babies born from first cousin unions. This article I read says the NHS was suffering from the staggering cots due to these poor children's profound disabilities. A recent article states in the UK the consanguineous marriages are now occurring at a more frequent rate in the current generation than even their parents generation.
Miggy said…
DR MAX PEMBERTON: Why I fear Harry’s had too much therapy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9585193/DR-MAX-PEMBERTON-fear-Harrys-therapy.html
hunter said…
Sounds like Princess Diana may have been bipolar or had (perhaps more likely) borderline personality disorder, known as the most impossible or unlikely of the personality disorders to respond to treatment.
Maneki Neko said…
@Carol 'CatEyes' Davis

You are right, there are a lot of cases of people of a certain country marrying first cousins. This is illegal in some countries but not the UK. The people concerned know the implications full well but as this is 'cultural', nothing's said. Meanwhile, the burden falls on the good old taxpayer.
Sylvia said…
@Lt Nyota Uhura blogger
This might explain how Prince Charles was retweeted influenced by the opinions at thst time
How things have changed !



https://www.biography.com/news/prince-charles-camilla-parker-bowles-relationship-history


Camilla had many relationships which made her too 'experienced'

Camilla had met Andrew Parker Bowles, a Household Cavalry officer, in 1965. They ended up in a passionate, though problematic, relationship. And when not with Parker Bowles, she'd had other boyfriends. Her dating life wasn't out of the ordinary, but she was seen by the palace as "experienced" — and because the relationships were public knowledge, Camilla couldn't put up a pretense of purity. Unfortunately, Charles and those around him believed it was important his wife — and future queen — not have an extensive romantic history.

In fact, Mountbatten had advised him that finding a virginal bride was paramount. Mountbatten wrote a letter to a 25-year-old Charles in 1974 that said, in part: "I think it is disturbing for women to have experiences if they have to remain on a pedestal after marriage." Plus Charles was constantly in the media spotlight, and his wife's past romances would have been subject to widespread press attention.

Any reproach of Camilla's love life reflected a strong societal double standard since Charles' many flings earned no condemnation. But this hypocrisy did factor into the prince's choice of a mate. When he wed Lady Diana Spencer, he was 31 and she was 19; the large age gap helped ensure she didn't have any kind of serious romantic past
Sylvia said…
* Pursueded not retweeted
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ Miggy

(Quoting from your article that you shared)

"At the launch of his Apple TV+ mental health series last week, Prince Harry spoke about how the ‘majority of us carry some form of unresolved trauma, loss or grief’. Well, yes, we do. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, though. In fact, it can actually be a force for good."
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Like when your wife supposedly was suicidal?
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Thank you @ Sylvia, that is probably the most cogent explanation I've read thus far.
Miggy said…
@Lt.

Like when your wife supposedly was suicidal?

Supposedly being the operative word!
lizzie said…
@hunter wrote:

"Sounds like Princess Diana may have been bipolar or had (perhaps more likely) borderline personality disorder, known as the most impossible or unlikely of the personality disorders to respond to treatment."

The blurb @WBBM posted about Diana's possible diagnoses seems to say the most concerning dx was made soon after the 1981 marriage.

In the 1960s and 1970s in the US what we think of as Borderline Personality Disorder today was thought of as "borderline schizophrenia." That's where the term "borderline" came from as bordering psychosis. By the time of the publication in the US of DSM-III in 1980, the thinking had changed to thinking of it as more of a "borderline mood disorder." It was thought by some to be "on the border" of what we now call Bipolar Disorder (called Manic-Depression prior to DSM-III.)

American and European psychiatry does not always move in lockstep. So I don't know where the thinking of Diana's psychiatrists would have been on the above issues. But there's a pretty big gap between being "an unhappy girl" who feels "oppressed" (whatever that meant in the context of Diana) and having a chronic disorder (like Bipolar, Cyclothymia, or even a severe personality disorder from the old "dramatic erratic" Cluster B.)
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Miggy said...
@Lt.

Like when your wife supposedly was suicidal?

Supposedly being the operative word!
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Now His Nibs is lecturing Americans on the First Amendment to the Constitution, hahahaha

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9585197/Prince-Harry-calls-Amendment-bonkers.html#comments

Blue Dragon said…
Didn't Diana end up seeing Susie Orbach? I vaguely remember some controversy about a book Orbach subsequently wrote about the treatment of various anonymised patients. Having struggled to read Fat Feminist Issue I didn't bother with the subsequent book.
Miggy said…
@Lt,

Now His Nibs is lecturing Americans on the First Amendment to the Constitution, hahahaha

He's a bloody idiot. lol

Did you see the twitter link I posted at 3:52PM? 😉
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ Miggy,

Just revisited, https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/status/1393815980313223169

LOL

Magatha Mistie said…

Also Camilla was considered
not sufficiently “high born”
Charles was expected to marry
royalty/top drawer aristocracy.
abbyh said…

OT slightly but in a nice way about Prince Philip.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-your-favourite-Prince-Philip-story

Petunia said…
The First Amendment is "bonkers", huh? I bet he doesn't even know what it says.
Blonde Gator said…
@Maneki Neko Thank you for your kind words, #6 and his wife's behavior has just rubbed me the wrong way, and I'm sick of their incessant toxic drama. They are disturbing many Americans with their non-stop idiocy.

Speaking of many Americans, here is a much better article (than the Zero Hedge one) about how most Conservatives in the United States view Harry & his out-of-control mouth. Hope people who are not from the US get a better understanding of how inappropriate Harry's remarks come off, and how annoyed many of us are with this constant barrage.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/05/royal_twit_prince_harry_declares_our_first_amendment_bonkers.html
Elsbeth1847 said…
I don't recall anyone mentioning this article (please forgive me if I missed that you did).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9582697/SARAH-VINE-No-not-Meghans-fault-seeing-real-Harry.html

I think of this as another one of the ones where we would not have seen something even close to it 6 months or a year ago. And yet, here is it is now! No shock to us but it is saying what a lot of people are thinking who aren't reading Nutty.

Perhaps a multi prong push back - since it came out with the article about how the aides want them to give up their titles (explain why not). 19K responses and probably still counting.

I thought the comment about how usually 6 and wife come back with some comment back almost immediately but didn't this time was a great observation. Which makes me think that perhaps, up until now, 6 and wife, were told in advance of some information to be coming out of the palace. Maybe that has stopped? And the longer they wait, the harder it becomes to come up with something to snappy/counter so many clearly unhappy with the couple saying: you are saying what I'm thinking.

Pitching another tell all? Could be, could be. And it could be an attempt to try to regain some control as a threat over the closed money taps. Whether or not there is any truth in anything more to come out is - well do we think there is still more damaging to come out?

So, maybe? but what? But if so, why would they have waited so long? Why not strike when the iron is hot (OW)? Wouldn't something more rather burn all their prior sources of how terrible his family is? Could those sources, in turn, drop something on her/him out of spite? I think that, as a possibility, could be an option. A be careful who you step on as you climb up.

Elsbeth1847 said…
Or this one:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9580613/Why-does-Prince-Harry-make-Charles-villain-never-Diana.html

Another one we never would have seen a year ago. Multi prong.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Petunia said...
The First Amendment is "bonkers", huh? I bet he doesn't even know what it says.
_____

Okay. Right.

Even for H, this is Supreme Grand Master of the Universe level of stupid.
SwampWoman said…
O/T re: Bill Gates https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-gave-bill-gates-advice-on-how-to-end-toxic-marriage-sources-say

And I read the article in the NY Post about his staffers complaining about him attempting to date them during his marriage: https://nypost.com/2021/05/16/bill-gates-asked-out-several-women-in-his-office-report/

I'm so sorry if these are duplicate articles; I've been in and out a lot lately.

Curiously said…
@Luca31404488 on twitter

“Harry’s 1st wife on childhood tour of Europe in 1996. The man in the middle is her friend’s dad. Even then, she was manipulating men”

. https://twitter.com/luca31404488/status/1393960692257103880?s=21

The photo shows her draped all over the friends dad in a group photo.

Disgusting.
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JennS said…
@Magatha

Are you around?
I'm rolling on the floor laughing like crazy....
I went looking for the article about the photographer who accused Markle of being a dreadful diva so I could add it to my blog.
You might remember that he claimed Megalo wouldn't let anyone photograph her funky feet!

Well, I found the story but I had forgotten that the Daily Mail had a lot of fun locating plenty of photos of her horny-hooves for the article!

Check it out here:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8265055/Meghan-Markle-called-princess-diva-behavior-set.html

Markle must have been BOILING MAD over that article! Now that the Mail has lost the lawsuit they should print many more antagonistic stories about her!

I can't believe how many nasty shots of her ugly old feet they managed to find. They not only turned up quite a collection, but they also blew up a few to monstrous size!

You have to scroll all the way down to catch them as they are interspersed with her "modeling shots"!
🤣🤣🤪😝🤪🤣🤣
Maneki Neko said…
OT

@WBBM

I can't paste a link but there is a photo of the Fagradalsfjall volcano in the Telegraph with the following caption:

'An aerial image of lava from an eruption of the Fagradalsfjall volcano on the Reykjanes Peninsula in south-west Iceland. The glow from the bubbling lava can be seen from the outskirts of the capital, Reykjavik, about 25 miles away.'

If you look at this link, you'll see a (different) photo briefly (before the article tells you to subscribe)

https://tinyurl.com/yyz6uwah
O/T

@Maneki & @Carol

I expect you've heard that the NHS launched a research programme a while back called `Born in Bradford'.

https://borninbradford.nhs.uk/

At the time, IIRC (CMA!) the reason for the study was given as the high incidence of congenital conditions in the city that had never been seen before (suspected to be consequence of young patients being homozygous for rare recessives) and an example was reported of fatalist thinking in the said community.

I've just checked to see if anything conclusive has emerged yet - results here:

https://borninbradford.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/Key-Findings_FINAL_Designed.pdf

- it took a long time to load on my machine. Don't know if I'm running slowly...)


Make of them what you will - strikes me the study had to be broadened to a point that any sensitive findings could be softened by a great deal of what we knew already, emphasising the effects of `multiple deprivation' which have yet to be unravelled.

Will reporting of the current outbreak in Bolton follow a similar course?

Official attitudes to this sensitive subject in general are diametrically opposed to what 6 & Mrs 6 claim.
Ava C said…
@Blonde Gator - Hope people who are not from the US get a better understanding of how inappropriate Harry's remarks come off, and how annoyed many of us are with this constant barrage.

We are watching exactly the same pattern develop in the US as we had in the UK, when we were so unfortunate as to have the Sussexes living here. The disrespect for beloved traditions and constitutional norms. The sheer attrition as they wear us down with their constant, maliciously-timed publicity.

My only hope is that there will now be greater understanding and less condemnation in the US. The British are not a "toxic", "racist" people. We are an injured, insulted and deeply exasperated people.

Over £30M of public money was spent on their wedding day alone. For something that was apparently nothing compared to the Sussex "backyard" and was done just to satisfy us, as if we are rather dim, mucky children they want nothing else to do with.

For me, the deepest offence remains the birth of Archie. A journalist I read yesterday in an old article, asked why on earth M should be required to "show her baby off". It went a lot deeper than that. It still infuriates me that the attending physicians have never been known. That empty space where there should have been signatures. The overwhelming secrecy and then false information deliberately released. This is our succession. It is not trivial. It is as fundamental to us as the First Amendment is to you.

If the worst happened and Archie was to become king, our monarchy, over a thousand years old and supported by the vast majority of the British people, would crash and burn. That is the risk the Sussexes have created.

M was either tricking us in the most serious way imaginable or it was her obsession with her version of celebrity, where everything must be secret. Her form of "showing off". Remember reports of how triumphantly she refused to say where they went on honeymoon. I can just see her meanest girl in the school expression.

Our constitution is a subtle, precious thing. Even though it does not exist in the physical, American sense, I still visualise it as a piece of gossamer-thin, centuries-old paper. Then M came along and threw those awful shoes on it that she wore for her engagement photo call. Dirty. Inappropriate. Didn't even fit. By the time Archie came along she was tearing pieces out of it. Scrunching it up into pellets to throw at us, to show her utter disdain. Her wilful ignorance. Her petty selfishness. Not forgetting her husband by her side, enabling it all. Such treachery.

As I said before, I am so grateful to Nutties from all over the world, who have taken the time and effort to understand why we now reject the Sussexes and all they stand for. Here in the UK we commiserate with Americans, as we did with Canadians, travelling the road we are still being forced to travel.

When oh when will this be over?
O/T

@Maneki Neko

Thanks for the mention of the volcano - I'd missed it because I don't find it easy getting around the Telegraph site.

It's pretty staggering - lava advancing on a 270 degree front. It looks quiet this morning, thank goodness. There's a good, well-informed, short article at

https://grapevine.is/news/2021/05/12/geldingadalur-the-volcano-that-just-keeps-giving/

The long, drawn-out, eruptions are the most damaging because of the pollution.
Maneki Neko said…
@AvaC said

When oh when will this be over?
-------

Good question, which we've been asking ourselves for a long time.

It was announced yesterday that Andrew has been removed from 47 patronages. Could this pave the way for the removal of #6 & spouse's titles? It wouldn't be seen as vindictive, in an 'after all look at what happened to Andrew' sort of thing.

I think the Queen might ask them to relinquish their titles or else she'll do it herself, in a kind of jump before you're pushed way. It could then be announced they graciously decided to relinquish them ;-). May the Queen deliver the coup de grâce promptly.
Maneki Neko said…
OT

@WBBM

Thanks for the link on the Bradford study. I don't have time to wait for it to download and read it but will do so later. I didn't know about it.
Maneki Neko said to Ava C, I think the Queen might ask them to relinquish their titles or else she'll do it herself, in a kind of jump before you're pushed way. It could then be announced they graciously decided to relinquish them ;-). May the Queen deliver the coup de grâce promptly.

I agree. The recent article about them relinquishing their titles was a polite indirect way of asking (by BP). If they don’t or at least acknowledge why they won’t, this could then lead them to be formally told to relinquish them. For all we know, they could have been asked in private already. If they don’t voluntarily relinquish them.....hmm a more formal and official way of doing so?

As much as I think BP move at tortoise speed, the long game does play into their hands better long term etc. The old adage, give them them enough rope to hang themselves with...the Duo have done just that.
Ava C said…
@Maneki Neko - I was surprised to read about the removal of Prince Andrew's patronages, simply because I thought he'd been removed from everything like that already. I wonder if it was a quid pro quo between the Queen and her next two heirs? "I'll give you Andrew if you'll give more time for H to sort himself out."

I know she's the Queen and can do whatever is within her power and that Prince Andrew is her favourite, but there's a definite feeling that the next reign is gearing up and has to be consulted. As it should be. Also a definite feeling that Princes Charles and William are not going to relent over H. Of the three, the Queen seems the softest.

Interesting to wonder what the Queen thought of her mother's treatment of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor? After all, the Queen went to their house when he was terminally ill and was apparently kind and considerate. To me it feels as if history is repeating itself. The Queen remaining conciliatory but Princes Charles and William, like the Queen Mother before them, will not be moved.

About the QM - I always think of Oscar Levant's famous quote about the nation's sweetheart Debbie Reynolds. That she was "as wistful as an iron foundry". Sometimes I wish there was more of the iron foundry in our Queen, but who am I to say? She has decades of experience on anyone else you care to mention. Churchill was her first PM and he was a Victorian! Although that doesn't stop me feeling impatient and fed up with BP's glacially slow way of doing things.
@Ava C

Thank you so much for your very powerful post - it's perfect.

It needs to be spread around the US and even world-wide. I don't think anyone could have said it better.

Catlady1649 said…
@ Ava C

I agree with every word of your post
Catlady1649 said…
O/T
Iceland volcanic eruption
I follow "Live" the eruption on You Tube every day.
Maneki Neko said…
Re #6 & spouse's titles, the Queen might feel under pressure to remove them, in the same way she was under pressure to return to London after Diana died. She can't ignore the people's discontent nor Palace aides'.
JLC said…
I agree with the other comments above - an excellent post Ava C.

An act of parliament can put an end to H's line of succession, but then this would need heavy intervention from BP to instigate this. But could they not dress it up as a favour, given that he was so unhappy being a member of the royal family? I hope that William and family now don't all fly on the same plane anymore.

Also, I read somewhere (apologies, it may have been here!) that someone thought Harry's wife was now deliberately letting him loose to self destruct/prove himself to be mentally unstable in preparation to Markle him soon. I am starting to think this carries weight. The number of times she has elbowed her way in front of him and taken charge of public speaking in the past isn't consistent with her current silence in the background.
Maneki Neko said…
The Spectator has an article on #6's appearance on Dax Shepard s podcast.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/prince-harry-america-free-speech-protection-is-bonkers

The transcript is reproduced in the DM (16K comments)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9585197/Prince-Harry-calls-Amendment-bonkers.html

I haven't seen the article here, apologies if it's been mentioned before.
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KCM1212 said…
@AvaC

Wow. Your comments at 10:35a are one of the best statements of the problems with the Sixes I have read. Particularly this point:

"This is our succession. It is not trivial. It is as fundamental to us as the First Amendment is to you."

This is the crux of the matter, and it does not get mentioned nearly enough. Many people simply assume their behavior was exasperating and rude. In fact, it should be enough to cost Archie his place in line.

Thanks for such a succinct statement of the facts.
lizzie said…
Piers is right. Apologies if this has been posted already.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9587523/PIERS-MORGAN-Harrys-attack-free-speech-makes-look-bonkers-not-Constitution.html
@KCM1212

Exactly!

Our Constitution doesn't have to be written down - I can quote it in its entirety:

`The Queen is Sovereign in Parliament'

That's it, five words, all that's necessary to summarise the position.

Since 1688, the executive power has rested in Parliament, not with the Monarch. Charles II anticipated it in this response to Rochester's mock epitaph:

`Here lies our sovereign lord the king,
Whose word no man relies on;
He never says a foolish thing,
Nor ever does a wise one.'

To which Charles replied `My words are my own but my actions are my minsters'.'

His brother James missed the point and it was partly his personal meddling that brought him down.

This is why I believe George III shouldn't be blamed personally for the grievances of the colonists nigh on a century later. Lord North was PM at the times (btw, we owe the Royal Marriages Act to him).

Far be it from me to delve into the history of another sovereign state but I gather the impression there was rather more to it than tea, that is, internal stuff.

In Britain, we have a deeply ingrained suspicion of Absolute Rule, having observed events on the European mainland from the 17thC , possibly earlier, until 1815, and at other times since. It doesn't matter if it's a monarch, a president or military junta - we don't trust Absolutism.

We believe our way preserves a delicate balance to maintain internal stability, no matter how odd it may seem to outsiders.
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Somehow, my previous post was duplicated -hence the deletion!
KCM1212 said…
I tried to read even a little of the Dax Shepard interview.

A quote:

PH: It’s splattered all over the place. So people are like, listen to Joe Rogan say, oh, if he says that, then maybe I'm, and it's, you're right, this is sort of like, ‘don't listen to me – it's like, well, don't say that, just stay out of it’

How can anyone listen to anything this moron says? The irony of his disinformation campaign is apparently lost on him and anyone that gives him a platform.
From AOL:


Prince Harry criticised after calling First Amendment in US ‘bonkers’
2 hours ago

Prince Harry is facing condemnation Stateside after he described the First Amendment as "bonkers" during a podcast last week.

The Duke of Sussex made the comment while speaking to actor Dax Shepard, who hosts the Armchair Expert podcast.

During the chat, Harry said: “I’ve got so much I want to say about the First Amendment as I sort of understand it, but it is bonkers.

“I don’t want to start going down the First Amendment route because that’s a huge subject and one which I don’t understand because I’ve only been here a short time.

“But, you can find a loophole in anything. You can capitalise or exploit what’s not said rather than uphold what is said.”

The First Amendment protects the freedom of speech, the press, assembly and right to petition the US government.

Many in the US have been left fuming with the remarks.

Conservative personality Candace Owens said: "Sunday riddle: How many more Hollywood-style interviews will Prince Harry and Meghan Markle give before they finally achieve the privacy they claim to be so desperate for?"

Texas congressman Dan Crenshaw claimed he "just doubled the size of my Independence Day party."

One American wrote on social media: "If he has a problem with the constitution then he can go back to Britain."

And another blasted: "Get the hell out of America."

On this side of the pond, Nigel Farage tweeted: "For Prince Harry to condemn the USA's First Amendment shows he has lost the plot.

"Soon he will not be wanted on either side of the pond."
Acquitaine said…
@WBBM: Our abhorrence of absolutism began much earlier than the 17th century.....Magna Carta in the 11th century.

Though King John ignored it in his lifetime despite signing it, the Kings that followed him implemented it such that superficially it might have looked like we had absolutism especially in the Tudor era, but in reality they had to mind the Magna Carta.
Acquitaine said…
With every utterance and lawsuit, Harry proves that he'd have preferred to live in an absolute age where he was liege lord and the peasants knew their place.

He married a woman with the same mindset.



Anonymous said…
@WBBM
@Ava C

Thank you so much for your very powerful post - it's perfect.

It needs to be spread around the US and even world-wide. I don't think anyone could have said it better.

I second that!!
Acquitaine said…
@Magatha Mistie said...

"Also Camilla was considered
not sufficiently “high born”
Charles was expected to marry
royalty/top drawer aristocracy"

Camilla was madly, passionately in love with Andrew Parker Bowles who she'd been dating for some 6yrs. Unfortunately for her, Andrew was playing the field and wouldn't commit to her. When he took up with Anne, Camilla took up witn Charles. It wasn't serious on either of their parts.

It was especially not serious on Charles part since a couple of months later he took up with Kanga and squired both ladies throughout the 70s.

When he took off on his Navy placement, Andrew finally proposed to Camilla and she accepted.

When Charles returned, he picked up where he left off with Kanga and Camilla.

Marriage was never part of the deal despite the revisionist history that has reframed it as such.

Camilla's aristocratic roots were never found wanting considering her own grandmother (greatx2) Was the beloved mistress of Charles's Grandfather (great x2) and was granted special privilege of attending his death bed.

The question of her virginity has retrospectively been reframed due to the way Diana's own virginity was publicly discussed as necessary when in fact the palace was afraid of ex-boyfriends with loose lips rather than the fact or not of virgibity.

A loose lipped uncle told the media that Diaha was definitely a virgin in his view and that became a conversation about alleged requirements of a wife for Charles and later why he never married in the 70s.

It's much more exciting a theory than the mundane fact that Camilla was mad for Andrew and the entire thing was a fling designed to bring him to heel which it did.



Miggy said…
'Treat people with dignity': Trailer for Harry and Oprah's new Apple TV mental health series includes footage of the young prince alongside Charles at Diana's funeral - as Meghan appears in a 'Raising the Future' t-shirt and reading with Archie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9587831/Harry-includes-footage-Dianas-funeral-official-trailer-new-Apple-TV-series.html
SwampWoman said…
KCM1212 quoted from PH podcast: PH: It’s splattered all over the place. So people are like, listen to Joe Rogan say, oh, if he says that, then maybe I'm, and it's, you're right, this is sort of like, ‘don't listen to me – it's like, well, don't say that, just stay out of it’

KCM1212 commented: How can anyone listen to anything this moron says? The irony of his disinformation campaign is apparently lost on him and anyone that gives him a platform.

Holy guacamole! (I hope that you note that I substituted epithets there for the more faint hearted.) I had expected him to be far more cogent from years of practice. He should have had general remarks prepared on any number of questions that may have been asked instead of sounding like an ignoramus. It isn't as though he had a microphone randomly shoved in his face before his morning caffeinated beverage of choice. Perhaps public speaking was one of those classes that he did not take but should have.

For a moment there, I thought I was hearing a conversation between pre-teen girls "Like, she thought she was all that, and I'm like oh, no, you ain't, and I'm like"... While I know that being inarticulate does not necessarily indicate a low IQ, he does have all the indications. He would have been far better off to remain silent and not done the interview. Every time he opens his mouth, I mentally remove several points off of his IQ. He's in beagle territory for me now; barks incessantly at imaginary threats.

He does give every indication (to me) that he can be easily manipulated by flattery and ego stoking. In other words, an easy mark for those that slither around in the background. I wonder if he actually has any core beliefs that define him, or if he is just an empty shell that can be moved about by anybody whispering in his ear.

In the meantime, I'm eagerly awaiting him starting every sentence with "Dude". It shouldn't be long now.
Elsbeth1847 said…
And more articles today. And becoming increasingly pointedly stating the hypocrisy and so on. My guess is that one could write off today as well it is just Piers and he's biased. But the waves of negative articles keep coming.

Miggy said…
@Swampwoman,

In the meantime, I'm eagerly awaiting him starting every sentence with "Dude". It shouldn't be long now.

Ha! I'll await with you. He's already parroting his missus by saying right? at the end of some of his sentences.
Maneki Neko said…
@Elsbeth1847

Yes, more articles today. The latest one, mentioned by Miggy, shows several pix. One of a very un-pregnant spouse - maybe an old photo - and another of her reading to Archie on his 1st birthday. Bizarrely, the content of the book has been blanked out. One caption says the film has been two years in the making so this is nothing new and started around the time the sprog was born, not a recent initiative.

I had a very quick look and saw it features the chat show queen and tearful interviews. The pix show some people in tears. So this is just a tear jerker meant to tug at the viewers' heartstrings. In other words, just ignore.
Jdubya said…
have you seen the trailer for the Me you Cannot See?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWevopoBmAE&t=13s
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Jdubya said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9587831/Harry-includes-footage-Dianas-funeral-official-trailer-new-Apple-TV-series.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailUK

Treat people with dignity': Trailer for Harry and Oprah's new Apple TV mental health series includes footage of the young prince alongside Charles at Diana's funeral - as Meghan appears in a 'Raising the Future' t-shirt and reading with Archie
BTW & just for a chuckle:

`I don't like it - it's too quiet...'

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5r2vf5

Dad's Army `The Battle of Godfrey's Cottage', from about 20.23 onward.
Another dog we never hear barking is Diana's brother Charles, the Earl Spencer, despite his pledge in D's funeral oration.

I wonder why not?
Grisham said…
Charles Spencer has been on Twitter talking about Martin Bashir retiring and the supposed investigation about the panorama documentary.
lucy said…

I bit the bullet and began to read transcript of podcast (thanks JennS for blog!) I stopped at supermarket story. Wow. How ridiculous. I could not continue on. Even before that it was pretty brutal read. He really does come off as low IQ . "genetic trauma" lmao really? What a dolt. I kept waiting for meaning to anything he was saying and never happened. Most flowing of conversation was when he recounted his walk. Head down staring at shoes and discarded chewing gum. Ironically, it is then I had enough. Podcast finished number one for week in COMEDY category. Nice prize H.

@WBBM thank you for response to my post regarding PC and Camilla. Much food for thought.


New video from Cambridge youtube channel 😢
https://youtu.be/CHImS28QcDU



Midge said…
@Lucy
Thank you for the video link- it was so lovely-has me in tears.
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snarkyatherbest said…
Oh My duck duck archie showed up in the promo video for the Oprah Harry mental health program. Not a new clip like show with Harry and his wife (without baby bump) but the old clip And of course we have a scene from the diana funeral. Just shake my head. The two of them have nothing more to offer, just reruns.
Perhaps that's within his remit as a historian now?

I find the whole thing about his barely-there relationship with Wm & 6 rather odd.
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CookieShark said…
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What I don't understand is how Harry can bash his family members and then go and say how people need to get help. How does this work?

The trailer of crying celebrities looks absurd. Who cares about this crap?
Couldnt agree more swampwoman.

I'd like to ask Harry more than anything to list his personal values. He doesn't seem to have any at all.

It looks to me a deal is in place to let Harry capitalize on their titles, in exchange for not writing a tell all.

The issue that occurs is we now see Harry admitting he has anger issues and needs therapy due to Meghan's insistence. This sets a narrative up that Harry is admittedly abusive. She will eventually get her payout, either from a tell all, or RF hush money
. At the rate Harry is going I'd imagine it will be from a tell all.
Christine said…
Good afternoon (where I am)

Boy Harry has the shovel out and he's just digging himself in deeper and deeper. He's really just messing up left and right. Plus he really isn't intelligent, and I mean, not at all.

I am hoping for very abysmal ratings for this Apple TV thing where everyone is crying over how f'ed up they are.

Go Harry! Keep digging - you'll soon bury yourself!
Christine said…
WBBM- He really is on his way!!! I wonder if Meghan is keeping track of him as tightly as she used to.
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-05-17/trailer-for-prince-harry-and-oprah-winfrey-apple-tv-documentary-released

Utterly counter-productive.

I'd been having a difficult day and was feeling a bit better at last - until I watched this. The last thing I needed was her gurning mug bearing down on me. To think, she paid good money for that face!

She was robbed.

I'm no beauty but at least I got my physog for free.
Christine said…
LOL...yeah she can really make a person grumpy! Hopefully your day gets better.

Her inner ugliness shining through, perhaps?
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Maneki Neko said…
Frankly, in the past year and a bit we've seen more of #6 in Canada & the US - there to protect his privacy - than we ever saw in the UK in the 10 years before he left.
Snarkyatherbest said…
The splash of celebrity on mental health issues doesnt help. we have privilege prince complaining about his upbringing and life, we have a singer who gained fame by embracing the fluid gender thing (remember when we all didnt know if gaga was a man or a woman). Again, why not deal with real everyday people who dont have millions and all the therapy at their disposal. How about a struggling suicidal farmer - show how he got help. A single mom, a rape victim, or one of numerous people who lost a parent at a young age, a parent who lost a child or two or three to gun violence. Showing these people what resources are available and how to get help is so much better than being preached to by the well to do. I dont care if oprah is healed (clearly not she seem to have a bitter chip on her shoulder) arghhhhhhh

the good news - these two and particularly harry will crash and burn their careers fairly quickly. And archie - poor boy only gets a duck duck loaded diaper video to show he's part of the family, or maybe they couldnt get an updated pic because he was with therapist.

finally - totally random - just saw the vaccine concert raised a whopping $1.9MM. not very impressive
Maneki Neko said…
Not sure when this was taken - where's the bump? Maybe she was hiding it to protect its privacy.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/05/17/17/43093403-9588365-image-m-6_1621268448980.jpg
Ziggy said…
Guess they couldn't afford to rent "Archie" for the trailer clips, so just replayed the old Duck Rabbit vid. *eye roll.*
Louise said…
Maneki Neko: Agree. How is she wearing belted trousers over that big belly that we saw in the photo where she was carrying Archie?

Did she already have her baby or di the cushion eflate?
Sylvia said…
Has this been posted Is it just PR ?

EXCLUSIVE: PRINCE HARRY 'IS DEMANDING' WIFE MEGHAN MARKLE 'BE PART' OF PRINCESS DIANA'S 60TH BIRTHDAY TRIBUTE

SOURCE: MEGA

By:The Royal Observer Staff

May. 17 2021, Published 9:46 a.m. ET

Prince William and Prince Harry announced in 2017 that a statue to commemorate the 20th anniversary of Princess Diana's death — and all the amazing work their mother did — would be installed on July 1, 2021, in the Sunken Garden of Kensington Palace.


However, a lot has happened since the initial announcement was made and now the brothers are at war over the tribute, a source reveals. 

“Harry is demanding the Meghan be part of the official ceremony. She will not be able to attend in person because of the couple's second child, but Harry is pushing to have a comments prepared by Meghan included in the event or he wants a video message featuring his wife to be released to the media the same day the brothers unveil the statue,” an insider exclusively tells The Royal Observer.

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And if Harry’s demands are not agreed to, family fear the red-headed royal may not make the trip back home.



“It is very possible that Harry does not return to the U.K. for the event,” the source adds. “The cold shoulder Harry received at Prince Philip's funeral is not helping. Harry was rattled not only by his family’s reaction but also by the negative media coverage he received during his short stay. Now he may bow out of the upcoming trip all together.”

Before the news of baby No. 2, it was announced in August 2020 that the couple, along with son Archie, would all be attending. Now, the birth of their daughter would give them a convenient excuse to forgo the unveiling

“The design on the statue was signed off by William and Harry. And even after Harry left the U.K., he was kept up to date on the progress and received photos of the work taking place. What is happening now would break Diana’s heart,” a friend dishes. “Diana loved spending time in the gardens at Kensington Palace. It was her refuge and sanctuary. She would cut flowers from the garden for her desk. Her two boys picked the perfect place for the statue, now let’s hope they both are there when it is unveiled





'SO SHOCKING & DISRESPECTFUL': PALACE AIDES REPORTEDLY WANT MEGHAN MARKLE & PRINCE HARRY TO GIVE UP ROYAL TITLES FOLLOWING EXPLOSIVE interview

PRINCE HARRY REVEALS HE KEEPS IN TOUCH WITH ACTOR & MONTECITO NEIGHBOR ORLANDO BLOOM 'BECAUSE OF THE PAPARAZZI'

PRINCESS DIANA'S STATUE UNVEILING MUST BRING PRINCE WILLIAM & PRINCE HARRY 'TOGETHER' OR 'NOTHING WILL,' EXPERT SAYS

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Hikari said…
https://youtu.be/dWevopoBmAE

Hi, all . .fresh from the Interwebs and I see that discussion is underway about the newly-released AppleTV clip. Like a dodo, I went to see because it trumpeted . "Archie Makes a Cameo Appearance!!!!"

It was Loaded Nappy Archie from May 2020, now more than one year ago . .the baby that *incidentally* looks nothing at all like the more recent images of Archie--the more petite-boned, darker haired toddler that sometimes has curly hair and sometimes not--that we've seen lately. Oh, look! Here's Super-Woke Mummy swooping in the frame to grin at something Daddy has posted online! Where is any evidence of gigantic Diana-2.0 triplet sized bump? She's wearing tight, belted black jeans. Her Spongebob like square torso is very evident in this style, but her stomach looks completely flat. But she's "Raising the Future!!" so proclaims her t-shirt. Interesting that in this (staged) shot, Hubby is wearing the identical outfit he's got for the on-camera parts with O.

Admittedly, this project seems to have been in development limbo for a year or more, so this stuff could have been recorded almost that long ago. That must be why year-old video of H's 'son' is all that can be shown.

It is truly painful watching a man with an IQ equivalent to a box of rocks trying so hard to sound smart and informed. When either of them speak, it's like the oxygen content of the atmosphere just drops right out.

**********

Re. Statue unveiling

If Harry’s demands are not agreed to, family fear the red-headed royal may not make the trip back home.

Really, FEAR it? I think rather they FEAR another replay of his atrocious attitude at PP's funeral service.

“It is very possible that Harry does not return to the U.K. for the event,” the source adds. “The cold shoulder Harry received at Prince Philip's funeral is not helping. Harry was rattled not only by his family’s reaction but also by the negative media coverage he received during his short stay. Now he may bow out of the upcoming trip all together.”

I can't really think of anything that would delight the RF and the citizens of Britain more. Perhaps Granny can arrange for JH's plane to be delayed over British airspace for a couple of hours and William will have to press on with the scheduled time regardless.

Before the news of baby No. 2, it was announced in August 2020 that the couple, along with son Archie, would all be attending. Now, the birth of their daughter would give them a convenient excuse to forgo the unveiling.

Doesn't it just. If only they ALL would skip it. The Wife will be in labor with Archie's sibling, yah. There's a convenient excuse.


My smartphone is an Apple. I feel like turning it in for a new one . . my contract is up anyway. It's getting increasingly burdensome to divest myself of any association with companies who are in bed with the Harkles since their tentacles are everywhere.
SwampWoman said…
Snarkyatherbest said: Showing these people what resources are available and how to get help is so much better than being preached to by the well to do. I dont care if oprah is healed (clearly not she seem to have a bitter chip on her shoulder) arghhhhhhh

I agree. Whining rich celebrities are the *worst* examples of good mental health that I've ever seen. If these idiots are a basket case after therapy, what does that say about therapists?
SwampWoman said…
Sylvia said:
“Harry is demanding the Meghan be part of the official ceremony. She will not be able to attend in person because of the couple's second child, but Harry is pushing to have a comments prepared by Meghan included in the event or he wants a video message featuring his wife to be released to the media the same day the brothers unveil the statue,” an insider exclusively tells The Royal Observer.


Heh. That is Yak-Haired Wife demanding. William should tell her to eff off, her birth mother is Doria. Say, did we see any heartfelt tributes to Doria on Mother's Day?
@SwampWoman: "what does that say about therapists?" That they're very good at finding suckers and extracting payment.

When is the RF going to finally put its foot down and tell H tough sh-t? Consequences, consequences. As long as he keeps getting his way, it's going to continue. You never pay a blackmailer(as I think someone said above).
Hikari said…
@Rebecca

I liked this comment on another blog:

How hard is the citizenship test because ‘intellectual’ Harry’s understanding of US history is having seen Hamilton the musical twice. But then he had one of the most privileged education in the world and his grasp of UK history has come from the last season of The Crown.


I've not seen the citizenship test, but I have it on good authority that it's pretty damn difficult. I'm not sure what levels of accommodation are available to the test-taker . . whether they can request a test in their native language or the services of an interpreter. As far as I know, the ability to read/write in English or at all is not a hindrance to U.S. citizenship. Accommodation would be made the same as for a non-sighted person, I suppose.

I just want to reassure everyone that JH is not even eligible to sit for this examination for six more years. One must be a permanent legal resident of the United States for seven (7) years before one is eligible to apply for citizenship. Citizenship tests are given at intervals throughout the year and July 4th is a popular day for swearing-in of new citizens.

One doesn't have to be an academic, an historian or any kind of brainiac to take the citizenship test but one must demonstrate mastery of the concepts in it. It's a fair bet that a great many of our natural-born citizens who've allegedly been through high school civics and history classes would be able to pass. Americans-by-choice want it more and are highly motivated to study. I do not see JH putting forth this kind of effort. His family connections and who Granny and Dad are will not help him with the citizenship test in the way that he was given a complete bye for any form of English high school by dint of his birth. Sure, he attended Eton and played rugby . . .and left having obtained a 'B' through cheating and a 'D' as the sole mark he was capable of on his own merits. Having stolen a place at Eton from a more deserving pupil, he went on to do the same at Sandhurst, where his scores (barely) squeaked through for the minimum standard for candidates. Such is the official word, anyway.

#6 and Wife will not be viable commodities 6 years from now, please God. H should focus on sorting out the history of his own family and country he was perfectly happy to be at the top pile of for the first 33 years of his life.
Girl with a Hat said…
I think a good documentary about mental health would cover the different types of issues and therapies available.

Not people crying on screen.

So many people aren't familiar with the latest therapies. They just think you go and lie on a couch and pay $150 an hour for the privilege.
Hikari said…
"not be able to pass" that should read.
I see Chrissy Teigen in a spot of bother. 10 year old bullying allegations resurfacing and causing her to lose contracts with some sponsors. Another one markled. Didn't she recently express solidarity with Megz? Oh how I love to see an advocate of cancel culture fall victim to that which they endorse for others.
Bracing myself to look again at that photo of Mrs6, I'm prompted to ask if her face is going into reverse?

What's happened to her nose?

Where did that width come from?

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/05/17/17/43093403-9588365-image-m-6_1621268448980.jpg

And how much bronzer is she using?

Is she keeping quiet because she's undergoing transmogrification? (Again)?
Snarkyatherbest said…
that almost looks like her same face from when she was doing the joint appearance with the queen. did she photoshop again?

it looks like she has a kevlar vest underneath her shirt. Is this the only protection she can afford since the BRF wont pay for security?
Snarkyatherbest said…
So have the wife as part of the statue unveiling or Harry wont attend. Probably the real story is he was dis-invited so now he's putting up a big stink. He will be staying home no doubt. but also makes me think that the "baby" is going to be coming sooner than later
SwampWoman said…
Snarkyatherbest said: He will be staying home no doubt. but also makes me think that the "baby" is going to be coming sooner than later

Hopefully the *newborn* won't appear to be a one-year-old child who shape, age, and hair shifts from one photo to the next.
Evidently, some Disqus members got the red page of death, too, so it must have been a system-wide failure of some kind, bigger than just Blogger.
Perhaps it was the lighting? The camera angle catching the width across the nostrils? Or she's stopped `refining' her nose with dark foundation down the side?

I'll be interested in any future photos - will she look as if she's re-adopting her original looks?

I'm having an early night - I've had enough of today.
Anonymous said…
Did anyone notice the still photo of H and TW used in the trailer for their latest self-promotional project with The Oprah? If you zoom in on it you can see that Harry’s eyes looked glazed over. And that Joker grin is unlike anything I’ve seen before in a photo of him. Very weird if you ask me.
Hikari said…
https://scontent.fosu1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/186528861_2683248098639103_8266698727998762125_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=yvKpbTXJJgEAX8jf1zK&_nc_ht=scontent.fosu1-1.fna&oh=2b96f8472c6efe47013690172cdc603e&oe=60C699FA

Don't know if this will come through.

A picture of Queen Catherine-to-be, looking very regal.

No matter what Dimwit #6 and his grifting ho do, THIS is the future of Britain, alongside her husband. Mrs. #6 will never, ever ever get anywhere close, and she knows it.
Elsbeth1847 said…
The Clash - Should 6 stay or should he go? (loud guitar)

Seriously, I think Snarkyatherbest might have something. Or maybe there have been comments coming from LA that preceded this we were not privy to about what might else come out/turn the money back on kind of thing. It has that same tone to it as what we heard before the wedding about getting what she wanted.

We had kicked around the idea of no wives at some point earlier (so it would be just about the brothers and their mother, no Katherine so no other wife would have a reason to show) as way to allow the show to go on.

It just would not make a lot of sense for her to traipsing across the world with a newborn in tow, along with the current larger kid (providing she had had the baby before hand as they sure would not allow her to travel if she were still preggers if she could not come for the funeral). It's just a lot of stress, trouble and difficulty especially if one of the kids got sick.

Or maybe there were conditions laid down (like pre-approval of all speeches?) which did not go down well?
SwampWoman said…
Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
Evidently, some Disqus members got the red page of death, too, so it must have been a system-wide failure of some kind, bigger than just Blogger.


I have a family member that is involved with IT security doing projects that he never talks about. There are always people probing (and you would probably be surprised at the ages of some of the miscreants or 'cyber terrorists'). I asked about the Colonial pipeline. He said that *none* of the infrastructure is adequately protected from intrusion, whether it is fuel pipelines, the electrical grid, or financial transactions.
AnT said…
@Rebecca,

I noticed that most of her hair — bottom of her wig— was stuck awkwardly and messily inside the neck of the message t-shirt she was wearing. Perhaps both were sampling some “appetizers” before the photo.
AnT said…
Hugely successful 27-year-old singer Ariana Grande just married her 25-year-old boyfriend, a real estate agent, in a small weekend ceremony at the Montecito home she bought from Ellen. They chose to have only 20 people at the ceremony and prefer to live in privacy, says the DM.

Oh-oh. Looks like Montecito now has an actual “young couple” in residence, two people with serious money and real jobs.

And Ariana has 227 million followers on Instagram.




Louise said…
Why is Archie in the Oprah mental health trailer?

Is he already depressed?
Snarkyatherbest said…
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AnT said…
So let’s see:

H and MM tried to bring down the U.K. monarchy in the U.K. — result unknown, repeated attempts

They attacked the monarchy from Africa

They attacked the monarchy from the US

They tried to bring down the press/freedom of press in the U.K. — a big case won, may be appealed; Piers Morgan out of a job

They sued photographers in Canada — case settled

They attacked the monarchy once again, in a US prime time special

They meddle in US politics from bench and couch and in California gov office

They are trying to attack the First Amendment in the US — results unknown

My question: Does anyone here still think this is just a “young couple in love” and this is just about a family squabble with meathead Harry?

Do others see what is going on?
AnT said…
@Louise

Answer: so the Harkles plus get a paycheck for his appearance.

So ridiculous that this trailer, with the heavy music and depressing dark imagery and weeping people and the very serious voiceover, also includes two segments of grinning Megs merching her ass off obliviously.

Psychotic.
@swampwoman,

The first thing I thought of when I got the Red Screen Of Death is that it was some phisher wanting me to click on the link. You have to be so careful these days, and no matter how careful that you think you are, they can still find a way in.
Snarkyatherbest said…
Louise - Archie has issues - they still havent changed his diaper ;-)

AnT - none of it makes sense he never looks happy when he is with her.

So oprah reminds me of that mean girl in high school, popular and she befriends you because she wants something. And she goades you into taking a stand on things just to see how far she can push you. And when you get in trouble with the principal and the other cool kids, you pay the price. I think shes doing that with Harry - "harry, they caused you great pain, families should NEVER do that. you are wounded by them"
SirStinxAlot said…
Demands??? Nobody cares that a spoiled man child makes a public tantrum for not getting his way. Or wifey either. There will be no tell all, because they've already told and been caught LYING! Everything from that point on is suspect. Hope the RF says no, don't bother coming- wishful thinking. M needs the RF connection even more than H does if she plans to leave H anytime soon. Shes a Nobody with out the title and sort of with it. Just another failed actress with a messy divorce. I do think any divorce would be messy and loaded with "recollections that vary".
SirStinxAlot said…
Best thing the palace could do is issue a statement that H is staying home with wife and kiddos before the unveiling. That or just don't invite the media at all. No media, no recognition for the Disastrous Duo.
lizzie said…
@SirStinxAlot wrote:

"...Hope the RF says no, don't bother coming- wishful thinking."

"Best thing the palace could do is issue a statement that H is staying home with wife and kiddos before the unveiling...."

I agree this should not be allowed to become a media circus. But I don't the royal family has anything to do with this Diana event. It's all Will and Harry's private deal. And the only palace that could make an announcement would be Will's office. I'm not sure any suggestion Will was trying to bar Harry from attending would be good. Even those sympathetic to Will's plight might find that a bit distasteful.
SwampWoman said…
AnT said: My question: Does anyone here still think this is just a “young couple in love” and this is just about a family squabble with meathead Harry?


Well, no. I think they are middle-aged toddlers throwing a tantrum. The only person that they are "in love" with is the person they see in the mirror.

I started to believe some time ago that their relationship is transactional.
hunter said…
NEWSFLASH!!

Titles update per YouTuber "Bookworm 2" who has become quite the reliable South African speaker as she appears to have a number of solid inside contacts.

In her latest video from three hours ago she says the Harkles have been fighting like crazy since the Palace rang to say "you have two weeks to announce an abdication of your titles (for any made-up PR reason) or the crown will begin the process of stripping them from you." I paraphrase.

She also said waaaayyyyyy too many people have indisputable info the Royal Family would have to either come clean on or... something (I presume about Archie).

It is only ten mins long if you want to listen, she seems to be a new popular source among my Facebook Haters group, as I like to call them. (ROYALS - UNFILTERED is actually the group name)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5QubhwY-YA
hunter said…
She starts dropping the good bits around the 6:15 mark.
Louise said…
AnT: You are so correct: everyone else is crying, and Markle is grinning like a lunatic.
KCM1212 said…
Disgusted, Tunbridge Wells said...
I see Chrissy Teigen in a spot of bother. 10 year old bullying allegations resurfacing and causing her to lose contracts with some sponsors. Another one markled. Didn't she recently express solidarity with Megz? Oh how I love to see an advocate of cancel culture fall victim to that which they endorse for others.
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Sing it sister! I am following that situation with unholy glee. I think we all enjoy seeing a hypocrite held to the same standards as the rest of us.

Especially when those "standards" are wokist, nonsensical and
excessive. If you are going to preach it, you should be willing to live it.

And we all know those who are not.

I honestly think that the 6's (h at least) somehow feels that he should not be held to any standards at all. He truly seems baffled by the criticism.

So M has her out. And H his...I think they planted the piece because the were told:
"Great interview, H old boy. Especially the part where you throw the patrimony under the double-decker while swearing like a dock worker. But there is the teensiest problem now with Wills. He has vowed upon seeing your 'silly, whining ginger-baby @$$ that your mums statue is going to be unveiled from a place the sun don't shine.' So there's a good boy. Stay home and play The Milkmaid and The Lusty Prince with M."
Jdubya said…
thank you Hunter
KCM1212 said…
Another article exposing M's lies in the OW interview.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9588359/Meghan-Markle-posed-Kate-Middleton-magazine-cover-two-years-met-Prince-Harry.html

I love it. There is no way on earth she will appear in the U.K. without a subpoena.
AnT said…
@Snarkyatherbest,
Your comparison of Oprah to a mean schoolgirl, daring Harry to hang himself out to dry, is very apt.


@SwampWoman,
I am thinking transactional on several levels. More each day, I think there are backers.
Ziggy said…
@Hunter Thank you for the link you posted at 4:43, plus the tip that the goods drop past the 6:15 mark. Fingers crossed!!!
KCM1212 said…
@Hunter
"Titles update per YouTuber "Bookworm 2" who has become quite the reliable South African speaker as she appears to have a number of solid inside contacts.

In her latest video from three hours ago she says the Harkles have been fighting like crazy since the Palace rang to say "you have two weeks to announce an abdication of your titles (for any made-up PR reason) or the crown will begin the process of stripping them from you." I paraphrase."

Now that is interesting, Hunter! Fits with the leak about aides wanting them to voluntarily giving up the titles.
KCM1212 said…
@Swampwoman and @AnT

I'm starting to believe in the backers too. Republican backers.

OT
@AnT Did you happen to be on a HeyGo tour to Banff the other day?

SwampWoman said…
AnT said...
@SwampWoman,
I am thinking transactional on several levels. More each day, I think there are backers.


Heh. I was told that I was a conspiracy theorist for voicing that suspicion at the beginning of the saga.
KCM1212 said…
@AnT

"Heh. I was told that I was a conspiracy theorist for voicing that suspicion at the beginning of the saga."

But you are a CORRECT conspiracy theorist!


😁
AnT said…
@KCM1212,

Last year and again couple of months ago I outlined my two-pronged tin tiara theories here. Backers who see money in the U.K. especially English land, and larger scope money cleaners. Anyway, I think something is up, definitely.

I haven’t done a HeyGo yet, but I intend to. I know a couple of people who took part in theatre programs in Banff and they’ve always spoken fondly of the area, so I will add it to my list. Did you enjoy the HeyGo experience?
AnT said…
@KCM1212,

That was @SwampWoman’s reply to me, but I certainly understand her feelings.

When I think that I had once been a MM fan (when they got together), and now I am long since completely the opposite, a beady-eyed cynic examining the suspicious pieces and parts of this mess....I wear my tin tiara daily. One by one are suspicions bear fruit, so....
KCM1212 said…
I didnt listen to the podcast but apparently H said that while on tours/engagements he would just grin and bear it, while thinking "I dont want to be here".

I wish every country he/they visited would bill the 6's for the costs associated with the tours. Can you imagine what the receptions, dinners, accommodations, gifts cost each country? It must have been a real burden for some of them.

H is utterly lacking in common sense, common decency and even a little bit of empathy.

I cant imagine what the companies he is working for must think.
Martha said…
I’ve always been a conspiracy theorist. How could it be otherwise? Where did she get the bankroll? How was she showcased at all the events 2014-2016? I pointed out months ago, she was seen in a photo at the White House when Obama was seated. How did that happen?

Why is it that she hasn’t been silenced? As it now appears, h is sought after...but I don’t believe she’s excluded.
As for the Diana unveiling.....oi vey, or however it is spelled. What a disaster. Of course h is forcing his hand, as she has forced his. It is such a travesty.

I don’t believe she was EVER suicidal, not for a day, an hour or a minute. It’s just grist for the ever churning mill.

How can people be so stupid?????
KCM1212 said…
@AnT

So funny...there was someone on the tour who's screen name is just like yours.

Every tour seems to be exceptionally good,but Banff and the Scottish Highlands are a couple of my favorites. The tour guides, Patrick and Craig respectively, are excellent and the scenery is breathtaking. I particularly enjoy the ability to take pictures while on the tour.
KCM1212 said…
@Swampwoman

Sorry! I'm a bit tired and missed adding you to the reply.

I would never overlook YOU! 😋
@hunter: oh my, if their titles go, then I say cold, refreshing drinks and treats of everyone's choice all around! And a new set of crockery to Mudslide Manor.

@AnT: I think there are backers, too. Too many clues there's been stuff going on behind the scene for a long time. They found the perfect mark-a true idiot they could manipulate to take out his own family, and at the same time bring down a system of government. It would be like breaking open a pinata.
Fifi LaRue said…
Scrolling through the comments. It seems to me that Harry is so dull-witted, spoiled, from a life of unparalleled privilege, that he wouldn't have the common sense to show up for any of his "jobs" without a reminder from a minder. My sense is that he just hangs out, and gets high one way or the other, interspersed with fights with the wife.

Watched Lady Colin Campbell today. She is a breath of fresh air, laughing off #6 and the wife.
Martha said…
I read somewhere today that the supermarket scene, too, was plagiarized! Colour me surprised! Haha. Don’t recall where I read it, a blog or Twitter, maybe You have been markled? Apparently, this was a scene in a 1940’s movie. I’m sorry..my apologies, but the details have escaped
I have picked up a few morsels other places. Just wish I knew how to copy, paste etc.
AnT said…
@KCM1212,
Ah, I have a doppelgänger out there in HeyGoland, do I? Lol, then when I do a tour I will have to remember to change my name I suppose. The Scottish Highlands tour would definitely be on my list, so I think I like my double’s taste!

@Martha,
@ConstantGardener33,
Exactly... It is a travesty. And where DID her bankroll come from for the sudden desperate PR Push of 2914-2016 (and on and on). The way they spend is beyond their stashes or earnings. This coupled with their grim penchant for agitation indicates something amiss. @ConstantGardener33: the line “it would be like breaking open a piñata” with regard to backers using Harry...hilarious put, but so true.

Just listened to Bookworm 2’s most recent YouTubes. She is definitely onto something, I think. Her comment about the Harkles being given a last chance tio save face by abdication of their titles versus having them stripped matches what my inside contact mentioned a few weeks ago, and matches what the Barkjack twitter thread stated as well. Fascinating if it happens as rumored.
AnT said…
@FifiLaRue,
I think it won’t be long before the novelty of work wears off for Harry, and it will be even wearing off even sooner for royal-adjacent employers if they exist as such. I tend to think all these jobs and deals are simply something more like money laundering from backers. The empty Harkle marquees at Netflix and Spotify suggest a ruse of some kind.

The Harkles bring only depressing, worn-out content to the table (“our fathers are bad and Diana is dead and we are suicidal and we hate our lives”) — and the way they are associating with boring Oprah yet again to whine is so stale. The mental health issues that have affected real people during their lives, heightened by the pandemic lockdowns and fear, deserved better handling than this rich people sob fest starring the angry prince. The glaring fact he has supposedly suffered his his teens yet sought no help for his supposedly suicidal wife and is using that flare language to make some more brand bucks is beyond disgusting.

Will either of these two spoiled clowns do the work of going back to school to learn real things about mental health? Why bother, when they have all that future foundation cash, that bigjuicy 95% share that’s all theirs.
If the Duo have backers what do they have to gain overall?

I’ve said previously it’s up to the British public (Commonwealth countries) and government whether we have a Monarchy. The Duo can continue with their mud slinging, whinge and whine all they like, but if the British public want a Monarchy, it will stay. ;o)
Blogger SwampWoman said...
AnT said...
@SwampWoman,
I am thinking transactional on several levels. More each day, I think there are backers.

I thought that from the moment she treated us to her opinion before the June 2016 Referendum, with the `modernisation' threat. Thought NWO; Mr Palindrome; `Cultural Marxists'... ??????

Could it even be the EU?

Some days I thinks she's mad enough to have done it all on her little own-y-o. Other days, I think `Trace the Money to its source - if only'


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZmtMT2qXv0

I watched this yesterday and, among the comments, discovered:

`There is talk on the wire that they have both had their titles removed and the RF are giving them a while to announce that they have abdicated those titles or the RF will announce that they have been taken away. I am praying that this story is true as I can so visualise smeg having a meltdown stamping her pretty little feet screaming and shouting “ How dare they” '

I saved it for today - glad I'm not the only one to have picked up on this.
Also, Lady C dropped some pretty big hints too, fingering another organisation.
WBBM and Nutties who have quoted this... `There is talk on the wire that they have both had their titles removed and the RF are giving them a while to announce that they have abdicated those titles or the RF will announce that they have been taken away. I am praying that this story is true as I can so visualise smeg having a meltdown stamping her pretty little feet screaming and shouting “ How dare they”

Can we start hoping and praying truth is in it! :o)
Raspberry Ruffle said...
If the Duo have backers what do they have to gain overall?

I’ve said previously it’s up to the British public (Commonwealth countries) and government whether we have a Monarchy. The Duo can continue with their mud slinging, whinge and whine all they like, but if the British public want a Monarchy, it will stay. ;o)


Exactly! This is why the loyalty of the Armed Forces is focussed on the Crown, without the monarch having the power to launch them against parliament or people, and what stops Parliament using them in the other direction.

It’s the essence of our Constitution – devised, with the intention of avoiding a coup, after the experience of an 11-year military dictatorship.
Maneki Neko said…
@Raspberry Ruffle

I've just refreshed and read your post. This what I thought the Queen/Palace might do, i.e., remove the titles on the quiet and announcement later. I thought the Palace might make it look like #6 & spouse relinquished them voluntarily as I said yesterday. I just hope this is true. We live in hope.
Would the prospect of losing the titles, even if they are given the chance to save face, be enough to trigger an apoplectic fit in the wife? (I'd have little sympathy for her, in view of the reports of the effects of her behaviour on Prince Philip.)

Or is this the calm before battle?
Maneki Neko said…
@ConstantGardener33 said

They found the perfect mark-a true idiot they could manipulate to take out his own family, and at the same time bring down a system of government.
---------

Possibly, but if they thought it would be easy to get at the BRF, they thought wrong. The Queen is elderly but is not an impotent old lady. I think it would be a grave mistake to underestimate her. Just my opinion.
Maneki Neko said…
If, in fact, the Palace told the 6s to relinquish their titles (and H's place of succession) but will let the 6s present it as their idea, it would be a masterstroke: this would allow the 6s to look gracious (well, a bit more) and would stop them whingeing that they were cruelly treated by the Palace, totally abandoned etc.
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Only thing I question on the y/t comment
“pretty little feet” noooo!
Magatha Mistie said…

@JennS

Hahaha, her feet, argh!!
Also one of her ‘modelling’ shots
in that skirt with flowers,
a protruding hibiscus, looks like
Harry’s erm.... after a cold shower!!
@magatha -

I assumed the comment judging her hooves was intended as sarcasm!
I think they might dig in their trotters and not relinquish the titles, preferring to have something else to throw at the Queen.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki

I agree, the Queen may be old,
but she’s all there.
She will do right by us.

God Save the Queen


Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Yes, madam especially
will dig in her hooves.
But the might of the Anello & Davide
size 4 will reign over all 😉


Magatha Mistie said…

@Aquitaine

Camillas great, great grandmother being
a mistress of Charles great, great grandfather,
is hardly a recommendation, or something
that would have been heralded at the time?


Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha said

I agree, the Queen may be old,
but she’s all there.
She will do right by us.
______

Yes, I trust she will. I think she's a great tactician.
Magatha Mistie said…

KerPlonks

The prince of Chunga Chunga
So desperate for mass media, hunger
Should First make Amends
For the crass message he sends
Attacking the Constitution
All part of their revolution
What he prefers
No speech, unless theirs
Just him, and his wife
Pair of Plonkers


Tim Dillon's latest podcast (he's been on Joe Rogan a couple of times) towards the end he starts to address the Harry situation.

He calls him grotesque and soulless. A soulless directionless man is dangerous.

Happy to see US media figures with followings openly calling out Harry for his terrible character.
Magatha Mistie said…


Jeeze, can’t believe it’s only
been 3 years tomorrow since
that wedding.
So much damage.
What to expect in the morning,
photos of Haz & Archie nuzzling
Megs armpits?
Or Megs feasting on her own feet.
All par for the course...

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