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Lillibet Diana?

 The Sussexes are simply beyond evil.

Lillibet is the Queen's personal nickname; I highly doubt she would want it used for any child, let alone a Sussex child. Using it is a gross invasion of privacy. 

Diana wouldn't have been best pleased with what Harry's done with himself, either.

After tearing apart the Royals in public for two years, the Sussexes are trying to stay connected with them via these names, and appropriate their glamour and style. 

How tacky.

Also, shout out to Doria and Charles. You're the only parents the Sussexes talk to any more, but no one thought to name a child after you.

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AnT said…
The DM comments about The Bench book waffling are scathing.

over 950 likes for a group of three comment telling the DM to look into her fake bump and referencing the red and purple dress fiasco...
I think perhaps the gig is going to be up sooner than later.

It just occurred to me that River might be adamant about believing the pregnancies were real to avoid suggesting the RF are lying for them as well.
SwampWoman said…
Ava C said: Hard to imagine Diana at 60 isn't it? I think she would have a dwindling fortune now despite the reported £17M divorce settlement, as she lived very well and I really don't see any reasonable, wealthy man signing up to be her partner. And she wouldn't have stayed with any of the alternatives. What man in his right mind would choose to live in emotional chaos, all shifting moods and alliances and betrayals and ghosting? Except of course her younger son has chosen the same. Unfathomable. It must be because H was too young to appreciate how awful it all was, while William knows all too well. Thank God (yet again) for Catherine.


I don't think that she would have gracefully aged. She expected to the focus of so many cameras and had paps on speed dial and, when people stopped showing up with cameras, that would have been devastating for her, IMO. I can't see her living in genteel (relative) poverty, either.
SwampWoman said…
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AnT said…
@Enbrethiliel,
@Snarkyatherbest,

Your comments about what would have happened had Diana remained alive bring up good points. I chuckled (but it is certainly true!) that if she lived, she would have spilled all of Meghan’s secrets by now. Megs would be making acottage industry of telling the world how bad Diana is, and trying frantically to put a wedge in between Harry and his mother.....and meanwhile, Megs would also be trying to get into sack with Dodi and/or his father! It would have been spectacular.

I also imagine Fergie and Diana teaming back up behind the scenes to gaslight Megs endlessly. Hanging laundered bumps off a gate to dry, perhaps?

And had Megs tried to climb into a parade carriage with Kate and Diana, I think age would have ended up on the pavement, or the world would have witnessed Diana’s most spectacular series of eyerolls ever.

Though like most people, I doubt Diana would have allowed Megs within two hundred meters of her son.
Ava C said…
Telegraph review by Claire Allfree (no pay wall for this but here it is - can't get the link to copy correctly)

PART 1

The Bench review: the Duchess of Sussex’s semi-literate vanity project leaves Harry holding the baby

The Duchess's first children's book is all bland parenting 'wisdom' and no story – and it's hard to imagine any child enjoying it

Poor Prince Harry. He's moved half way across the Earth, leaving behind everything he has ever known, and for what? A humble bench in a garden, according to the opening line of The Bench (Puffin, £12.99), his wife's debut book for children, published today and addressed throughout its 34 pages to him.

“This is your bench,” it begins, accompanied by a watery illustration of a man with ginger hair sitting on a bench looking adoringly into the eyes of a baby. “Where life will begin/For you and our son.”

Leaving aside that unfortunate image – did the Sussex's family life really begin on a bench? Surely not – the connotations are clear. Poor Harry's role in this marriage is to sit on his bench holding the baby while Meghan gets on and conquers the world, one act of compassion at a time.
Teasmade said…
@Swamp: "She expected to the focus of so many cameras and had paps on speed dial" Given that, I wonder why her children (rather, BOTH her children) don't realize that she brought it on herself and thus, onto them? Including that last night in Paris.
Ava C said…
PART 2

The Bench, published worldwide today and apparently based on a poem Meghan wrote for Harry on Father's Day, is presented as a story for children. But it's nothing of the sort, not least since it's not a story. Rather it's a series of imperatives disguised as loving verse in which Meghan offers words of wisdom to Harry (represented throughout as a sort of racially inclusive, everyman paternal figure) and by implication to the rest of us, on how to handle the tricky business of loving a child.

Each page consists of a generic "bonding" moment between father and son on a different bench (park benches, garden benches, random grey benches), illustrated by Christian Robinson's amazingly benign water colours and accompanied by a couple of tender lines of advice. So, after a hard day tending the chickens, our father figure Harry will “rest” on his bench and “see the growth of our boy”.

As the “son” learns to ride a bike, our hero Harry will “watch on with pride”. And should the son playfully pop on a tutu, our father is helpfully told to be his “supporter”. Because any male child who playfully dresses up in a tutu obviously needs support, right?

Sometimes, the demands of scansion and rhyme defeat Meghan, so she resorts to either reconfiguring words or mutilating them instead. “He'll run and he'll fall/And he'll take it in stride,” reads one line. Eh? “With daddy and son/where you'll never be 'lone,” goes the book's immortal final line. Oh ouch!
AnT said…
@AvaC,

Apologies, I meant to type your name into my comment about Diana as well but kept getting distracted by texts.

So while I am here I will add....don’t you think there would have been film producers, or someone like Francois-Henri Pinault, to take her on for the prestige value or because of a similar wild streak? I have a friend who swears she would have ended up with a rich Putin cohort!
Ava C said…
PART 3

Meanwhile, Meghan herself pops up at the end, tending the vegetable patch (I just don't believe this bit – surely the Sussexes have a gardener to pull the potatoes?) and, natch, holding a child, presumably young Lilibet.

One wonders how any publisher could have thought fit to publish this grammar-defying set of badly rhyming cod homilies, let alone think any child anywhere would want to read it. But that's planet Sussex for you, where even the business of raising a family is all about the brand.

Fifi LaRue said…
I'm in the camp that there is no Archie. So then why would Hazbeen go along with the charade? Maybe there is a child and they keep it farmed out to permanent nannies who show up once in a while with the kid. It's very puzzling. If there are, in fact, children they will very very damaged psychologically, mentally, emotionally, and probably get some physical abuse thrown in for good measure. The wife is a monster.
SwampWoman said…
AnT says: It just occurred to me that River might be adamant about believing the pregnancies were real to avoid suggesting the RF are lying for them as well.

I roll my eyes when hearing about how she was *really* pregnant, but I believe it is for liability purposes. He, like Lady C, is very careful to skirt around the pregnancy issue.

I do think that yak hair probably personally picked out the very darkest surrogate she could find in order to make sure that little "Lilibet Diana" can be used to bolster the racism claim; i.e., "See, I told you the RF and the British public were extremely racist because they object to Lilibet because she's BLACK!" and not because it was a low-class and evil thing to use QE2's childhood nickname without permission.

Ava C said…
@AnT - no I really can't see a man taking on Diana for any reason. If they did they'd fall by the wayside sooner or later with exhaustion ร  la Markle. Why should a rich man take on all that hassle and a neediness no other human being would ever be able to satisfy? Only an idiot like H. I remember reading about Diana throwing herself across the bonnet of Prince Charles' car when he was due to leave for an event. "If you love me you won't leave me!" That was not unusual apparently.

Someone could take her on for a short time because she could certainly get things done and get the attention of the world while doing it. As you say, an oligarch today perhaps. But not for good. Then Diana would feel justifiably used by yet another person and so the downward spiral would accelerate. Each time. Till her value depreciated.

Patrick Jephson, her private secretary, said it was already happening that last year or so. Visits no longer ran as smoothly. Hosts were embarrassed as post-divorce Diana was a bit of an anomaly. Protocol wasn't designed for her position. The official cars that used to meet her so smoothly were no longer there. Those who wanted her time were becoming more self-interested and less benign. It would all have become tacky by the turn of the century. Not tackiness on M's scale of course. But sad and tawdry for someone who could have been Queen.
AnT said…
@AvaC,

Thank you for posting that blistering review. My goodness.

I love that he awful verse and weird controlling tone (which I hear as “You vill do zis!” in the tones of Sgt Schultz of Hogan’s Heroes sitcom fame, I’m afraid) are plastered by thus reviewer.

Yow...“amazingly benign” regarding the illustrations.

Two of my friends in Palo Alto with a toddler, who were formerly mildly supportive of Megs and Harry, are “done” with her because her book apparently does not show a pair of dads with a son. They feel her inclusiveness dribble was a planned lie. They are also livid about the use of Lilibet, and so do their friends, and so.....Bye, Megs!

More evidence she has no children around her, because no kid would like a book like this. Anymore than a baby would enjoy bland Duck Rabbit. There are a spate of these pontificating drab soul-killing children’s books coming out, though, as I noticed while Christmas shopping. It is like someone hired the drabbest, grimmest, armband wearers with sparse mustaches to put out boring volumes to start replacing Seuss etc. Poor kiddos.

AnT said…
Apologies for the iPad typos. I should never comment via this thing. It is a fight every time with bizarre autocorrect, freezes, and last-second word shuffling.
SwampWoman said…
Fifi LaRue said...
I'm in the camp that there is no Archie. So then why would Hazbeen go along with the charade? Maybe there is a child and they keep it farmed out to permanent nannies who show up once in a while with the kid. It's very puzzling. If there are, in fact, children they will very very damaged psychologically, mentally, emotionally, and probably get some physical abuse thrown in for good measure. The wife is a monster.


I don't understand how or why she/they think that they can pull this off long-term. There will only be more questions in the future especially as they are determined to be the Most Important, Richest, and Accomplished People Anywhere.
AnT said…
@AvaC,

Yes, I see what you mean. I don’t think any rich man would have married her or partnered with for anything more than self-interest or as a grimy PR move, but to your point, she was so unstable even that sort of transactional marriage (like a Jackie and Onassis) would have been quite unsustainable.

Hadn’t heard that she actually threw herself across a car bonnet during the Charles years....my god. You know, a few years after her shocking death, one of my friends’ mothers remarked that in a way, maybe Diana was “lucky” to have been crystallized for posterity as a still-young, still somewhat fondly remembered princess before sliding down into what called “her Margaret years” and maybe she was right.
lizzie said…
I agree if Diana had lived we might not have Kate. While I am sure Will was very attracted to Kate and loves her deeply, I think much of the initial bond came about because of Will's need for family and his finding a mother figure in Carole. If Diana had lived he wouldn't have had the same needs. Of course, his parents would still have been divorced, he likely still would have appreciated the stability the Midds offered in Berkshire, but he would have been different.

I also think Diana would have been a difficult MIL and grandmother. She certainly seemed to sabotage the relationships others had with her sons (nannies, Charles, other members of the RF)
SwampWoman said…
AnT says: AnT said...
Apologies for the iPad typos. I should never comment via this thing. It is a fight every time with bizarre autocorrect, freezes, and last-second word shuffling.


I feel your pain! Mine always auto"corrects" and it especially likes autocorrecting posters' names! I have to sit at my computer to make damn sure that what I think I am sending is what I am actually sending. (I cringe inwardly when I think of the results of some of my texts. Did I mention hating cell phones?)

Enbrethiliel said…
@Teasmeade
, I wonder why her children (rather, BOTH her children) don't realize that she brought it on herself and thus, onto them? Including that last night in Paris.

I believe that Prince William does. He wouldn't say so publicly out of loyalty to her, but as I've said earlier, I think he's very clear-eyed about the past. And just because Diana had poor judgment and made horrible choices, it doesn't absolve others who deliberately took advantage of that. I'm glad he went after the BBC for their part in the Bashir interview. They really were the "bad guys" in that case, unlike the morally murkier instance of the paparazzi in Paris.
SwampWoman said…
@AnT, @AvaC:

Hadn’t heard that she actually threw herself across a car bonnet during the Charles years....my god. You know, a few years after her shocking death, one of my friends’ mothers remarked that in a way, maybe Diana was “lucky” to have been crystallized for posterity as a still-young, still somewhat fondly remembered princess before sliding down into what called “her Margaret years” and maybe she was right.

Yes. Thought it interesting that "Candle in the Wind" memorialized both Marilyn Monroe and Diana, both dead at age 36.
SwampWoman said…
I'm putting off mowing the grass when the humidity is 77%, and it ain't going to get any better as the day goes on. Later, y'all, have a nice day!

/I'm going to need sweet tea and an ambulance soon.
Miggy said…
Slightly OT

Lawyer suspended over racist tweet about Meghan and Harry's baby Lilibet Diana.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lawyer-suspended-over-racist-tweet-24271003
AnT said…
@SwampWoman,

Right with you on the texting autocorrects too. My phone’s quirk is changing “even” to “love” every time.

I need to simply take extra time on the iPad to proof two or three extra times instead of rushing to hit publish so I can grab the phone. My iPad has an issue that is so odd—I can correct a couple of typos or autocorrects, but then as I correct a fourth word, I can watch the iPad brain freeze, then it shuffles in another wrong word two lines up. I i then stop and scroll back to the top, I see new errors. It makes me want to throw it across the room.
Snarkyatherbest said…
fifi i’m with you. one bit of theory is that the brf found out about the surrogate and paid her off to keep the baby given what was going on behind closed doors with the harkles. (given how spaced out they looked at times i imagine habitual drug use was a concern). did the baby have both parents dna? who knows. it would explain why we haven’t seen archie merched or there are fleeting pics because this may be prt of the private mexit agreement.

can she keep it up? probably not. but if she is made irrelevant most people won’t care if they don’t see her with a kid or kids. i don’t think she thought through all of it or assumed she would have custody of the first (the genetic parents have the rights in the US where as the surrogate does until the adoption) the second could be trickier for the brf. unless the found out who the surrogate is and paid her off to disappear the genetic parents would have a claim. if it’s just meghan well she would have to file a lawsuit and that would have to be sealed or else all of us would find out. if it’s harry and meghan’s it could be stickier. all very curious.
Ava C said…
Thinking about children's books, my parents provided me with the original version of the Grimm Brothers fairy tales and, as I read for myself very early, they had no idea they would give Quentin Tarantino a run for his money. Cinderella is particularly horrific. I also read Arabian Nights which, in retrospect, was definitely not always for children. I just blithely read and re-read the stories, never knowing how shocked I would be as an adult when I revisited them. Of course fairy tales are like that for a reason. To teach children resilience and how to look after themselves. It's deeply ironic that a woman like M has written a children's book. She is the epitome of a wicked woman who lived in the wood, or an evil jealous step-mother, or a mean, petty, spiteful step-sister. Little children be very, very careful. Tread softly around her and run home as fast as you can.
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Hikari said…
@Wild Boar

Having struggled, and usually failed, to keep sixth-formers out of the pub when on field trips, I'd say it was preferable to the boys making an exhibition of themselves in the local pub.

Charles no doubt thought the same. While he and Camilla surely enjoy the drinks cabinet at cocktail hour, and Chas is often photographed with a glass in his hand during official engagements, I do not believe he has a 'problem' with alcohol in the manner of his younger son. One time, as an underage Prince, there was a flap when it was discovered that Charles, then underage had been served a cherry brandy somewhere. It hardly rises to the level of snorting cocaine off the hipbones of prostitutes (something I would believe absolutely H has done) but it caused embarrassment for the Palace. Chas was probably thinking of this when he installed 'Club H' (note: named for Harry, not William) Charles made the mistake of legions of divorced/single dads by being too permissive out of guilt and a desire to be his kids pal. That always backfires. I'm sure Chas felt more at ease knowing if H was going to drink and get stupid that he'd do it in the privacy of home where there were people to keep an eye on him.

Hindsight: 20/20. Though Harry's substance issues are not solely down to his club den provided by his father. Chas was probably naive about the illicit drug taking going on in Club H . . and that would have been imported in, not stocked at the 'bar' by Dad. One way or the other, if H was determined to use, he would have gotten the stuff he wanted. And he did.
Ava C said…
Princess Eugenie 'clashes' with Beatrice over Meghan and Harry royal feud

Princess Eugenie reportedly clashed with her sister Princess Beatrice after the older sibling announced her pregnancy on the day of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's third wedding anniversary

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/princess-eugenie-clashes-beatrice-over-24272342

Excerpt:

"Eugenie didn't approve of the decision to shun Meghan and Harry's anniversary — she feels that they have been incredible hard done-by."

Harry and Meghan reportedly announced her pregnancy with Archie, now two, at Eugenie and Jack's wedding back in October 2018.

But it's claimed that she has forgiven her cousins, and believes her sister was in the wrong to steal their thunder.

The source added to Heat magazine: "Eugenie is very forgiving — which is a surprise to a lot of people, especially when you consider how it was an open secret that she found it hurtful that Meghan's pregnancy announcement was made on the day of her and Jack's wedding.


If this is true it beggars belief. Feeling sorry for the Sussexes because someone stole their thunder? If so, it's about time they learned what it feels like, having done nothing but steal other people's thunder from the time they got together.

I'll make allowances for Eugenie though (yet again, if it's true), only recently becoming a mother for the first time. She had that old-fashioned thing we used to take for granted. A royal birth not shrouded in mystery.
AnT said…
๐Ÿ’ฅFLASH

Thomas Markle has dirty laundry to air on 60 Minutes Australia this Sunday......
Enbrethiliel said…
@Ava C

If it's true about Princess Eugenie, then it explains her cheerful Instagram story wishing her "cousins" well after the birth of baby $2.

And well, it isn't the first time she has, by addressing them as "cousins," been extra familiar toward them.

You're right, though, that it's really hard to believe. Especially after this latest stunt.
Hikari said…
@Ava,

Sounds like that Princess E. story is a fantasy piece by Meghan's PR. I believe the York family are all on the same page vis. the pair in Montecito. I view the story that the Brooksbanks are currently living at Frogmore Cottage with suspicion, and certainly not that Harry is Eugenie's 'landlord' and therefore she's got to stay in the good graces of the Sussexes or she'll be homeless, as is implied by this constant stream of 'pro-Harkle' articles emanating from Eugenie, allegedly.

A third anniversary (one which even the couple involved did not mark with any sort of a statement/photo that I am aware) is not anything special to preclude others announcing more significant life events on. It absolutely pales with what Smeg did to E. on her wedding day. Doesn't it fit exactly into the Narc's playbook to create the illusion that she has not only been absolved by her victim for her past injurious behavior but that they are now Best Friends who talk all the time and are bonding over their mutual New Young Motherhood?

That's exactly what it sounds like. That's why I think Meg has a hand in these pieces. If she can sweep her past acrimony with the house of York under the carpet, that's a toehold back onto the balcony for the Platinum Jubilee.

Consider Eugenie's own recent Instragram photos which to me refute completely that she's now besties with the women who screwed her over at her wedding:

Easter, 2021: Eugenie releases a family photo of her and Jack standing under a gigantic tree in presumably Windsor. Obvious mockery of Smeg's 'Madonna Under Tree of Life' photo. Eugenie played the same part--with her REAL baby and her happy smiling husband.

On the same day the arrival of Baby Lilibet Diana was announced, Eugenie once again posted a happy family snap with her genuine baby, and her sister was photographed out and about with her hand resting upon her stomach.

I think all of these telegraph that the House of York is still in the game. Not vindictively, just alerting Madam subtly that they know all about her sh*t. She makes a move; they raise--only, they have reality on their side.
Christine said…
Maneki- It was you!!! Hahaha you need a crystal ball.

I see that Wills, Kate, Charles and Camilla are all using Harry and Meghan's names without any Duke and Duchess of Sussex names.

I feel that Meghan's ventures are all doing pretty poorly. The Bench Book's failure will have been a particular disappointment to Meghan. At least she made a large advance, but her entertainment ventures just aren't picking up any steam. I'm sure the feminist narcissist in her despises the fact that her dope of a husband will have to support her and the children with his 'job' and she'll have to take care of the kids.

I have this feeling that Meghan will quickly realize, if she hasn't already, that the public interest in Archie and Lili is pretty big. I sense this is one area of conflict between Meghan and Harry. I am certain that hard headed Harry wants his children in the public eye as little as possible. However, Meghan can make money off the children in this way. A good example are those pap pics that were taken in Canada of Meghan and Archie in the sling when Harry was back in England. Meghan and her security detail clearly knew the paps were there. When H got to Canada though, all of a sudden a lawsuit was filed. Should be interesting to see who will prevail here.
Miggy said…
Oh crikey... look how important Markle thinks she is!! ๐Ÿ˜‚

https://twitter.com/kegeiger/status/1402259963200872449
Hikari said…
PS . . the 'cousins' address and the friendly tone is classy behavior, she's not gonna name-call in public. But don't we think it could also be a 'kill them with kindness' strategy?

As in: OK, Meg is determined to peddle the narrative that we are the best of friends. *We* know that it's all bollocks, amongst ourselves. But we will play along, and every familiarity we release will serve to highlight to Madam how non-existent our true relationship is.

Why does Markle target Eugenie for such 'friendship overtures'?--don't we think she's trying to manipulate the narrative in her favor surrounding Harry's younger and once-favorite cousin? Eugenie is a naturally compassionate woman who is close to the Queen. Narcs expressly target the most kind and giving people because they are most open to being exploited.

Everything which is released about the Harkles which is favorable is fake. Everything which appears to serve Meg's agenda in a positive way is fake. To me that includes both of her children and any appearance of a friendship between herself and Eugenie.
Miggy said…
New Lady C video

SURROGACY hint in Lilibet birth announcements/Harry & Meghan disrespect Queen/violate privacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FD-pqds3zE
Did we miss something?

from Amazon Books:

The Bench: An uplifting love story from the Richard & Judy Book Club bestselling author
by Saskia Sarginson | 19 Mar 2020

and what's this, also on Amazon Books?

Unathorized: Meghan Markle Bombshell Biography: Bombshell Biography According to Tom Bower
by Thompson Bowman

Something oddd about this...
Hikari said…
I have one final comment about the article posted above claiming that Eugenie is at odds with her sister over Meghan being incredible (sic) hard done-by . . .apparently being hard done-by (who talks like this??) consists of having one's third anniversary of one's fake marriage unfawned over by the in-laws) . . .

One word: TRIANGULATION

Who has a history of sowing discord between once-close friends and family members? Who TAKES JOY in doing so, the only joy she feels is in destroying that which she can never have.

Eugenie and Beatrice have never been 'at odds' for the last 30 years. Yet, within three years of having The Markle in their lives, suddenly they are fighting over Bea 'stealing Meg's thunder'? For a third anniversary of a to all appearances miserable union that the couple themselves forgot to mention?

Meg's fingerprints are ALL OVER THIS. I do not believe a single word.
AnT said…



☄️ Thomas Markle speaks out to 60 Minutes Australia on Sunday.

In the trailer, he seems.....peeved.



.
AnT said…
@Hikari,

Excellent call. Definitely working on her next act of family destruction.

.
SwampWoman said…
I think that Eugene and Beatrice would be talking to each other immediately about what that *itch said now.
AnT said…

Eugenie and Jack: famous celeb friends

Bea and Edo: successful titled Edo probably hears the yachting gossip and knows all about Mrs Bench

So.....
Thanks to all of you who corrected me on the Eaton situation. I don't know where my mind was.
*****************************

@Embreth,

I've been concerned about Eugenie since the time she allowed Harry and Ed Sheeran into her cottage to film that ridiculous stunt. I think she's sticking with Harry. If I were HMTQ, I'd be watching Eugenie very closely.
...and then I spelled Eton wrong. This is going to be quite a day!
@WBBM,

That Thompson Bowman book is only 16 pages long?????
Maneki Neko said…
Re The Bench, here is part of a comment from the DM

"That 'makes my heart go pump-pump' was stolen from a popular song".

We shouldn't surprised...
Ava C said…
@Hikari - I'm with you - I can't believe the York sisters would be opposed to each other like this. All your reasons for this are very plausible, except I still don't personally get - have never got - why M seems to focus on Eugenie as she often does. I haven't seen a convincing reason for it yet. It's Eugenie M targets, more than Beatrice, even though Beatrice is older.

Of course they are both blood princesses and that must make M spit feathers. I expect she also sees them as nowhere near as attractive as she is, and of course to her the structure of the BRF is merely a popularity contest between rival social media accounts.

The number of times I go back in my mind to Kyle Dunnigan's brilliant take-off of M when she can't remember H's name then remembers it while fixating on William rather than 'William's brother'. 'Harry! His name is Harry! Eww! Gross!'

https://www.facebook.com/kyledunnigancomedy/videos/612020459628606
(Can't find it on YouTube)

I tend to think M would react in the same way to the York sisters' very English, rather Victorian looks. Not starved on Adderall. No plastic surgery. A lovable tendency towards frumpiness at times. M would despise all that. But it's still not enough to explain things for me. Maybe she sees them as weaker than the others, because they look relatively ordinary? She picks on them because she is still fundamentally the meanest girl in the school?

One day all this may come out. Finally. I wonder if I'll live that long ...
Mel said…
One word: TRIANGULATION
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Absolutely. Typical narc move, go after the weakest link.

My narc constantly did that. A master at it. Took me a long time to realize what was going on.
Mel said…
Maybe she sees them as weaker than the others, because they look relatively ordinary? She picks on them because she is still fundamentally the meanest girl in the school?
--------

That's a huge component of the story, imo. Mm trying to establish dominance.

She thinks she's far more beautiful. Better in every way. Not even in the same stratosphere. Those girls should be lucky she even says hello to them.

She can't use Catherine to get to William; the next best move is to use the weakest York girl to get to the Queen.
Miggy said…
Very interesting comments under Lady C's latest video from a lady called Jennifer Olson regarding the 'birth' of Lilibet! ( Scroll down 'top comments' to find her)

Enbrethiliel said…
Re: Princess Eugenie and her "cousins"

How I see it, there's shade and then there's "shade." I see @Hikari's point about the subtle contrasts Eugenie is drawing between herself and Harry's wife. There's just something off about it to me.

When Princess Beatrice announced her pregnancy on the wedding anniversary, the message behind the message was crystal clear.

When the Cambridges' Instagram account "Lili" instead of the full stolen name, we all understood why as well. (Having said that, I know at least one royal watcher who can't stand Harry's wife and who thinks that "Lili" was a lapse on the part of a clumsy social media team.)

When Princess Eugenie congratulated her "cousins," however . . . Well, we're more divided about it. There was also the confusing Frogmore situation from last year. I understand if Eugenie has chosen to take the classy road (with the tiniest bit of snark). But I share @Jocelyn'sBellinis' reservations.

Now I'm weighing two possibilities:

1. Eugenie is staunchly Team BRF.
If so, she has been the mildest one when it comes to showing it. Even Mike Tindall has been more expressive. Harry's wife must therefore see Eugenie as the weakest antelope of the herd. She now has a point of attack, knowing that Eugenie will never complain, never explain, and never even shade.

2. Eugenie feels some sympathy for Harry and his wife.
In this scenario, Eugenie remains the weak antelope; but now the predator is going after her in another way. As @Hikari's post on triangulation reminds us, a narc can turn the closest of siblings against each other. I actually find it plausible that two sisters who may never have argued about anything in their lives would be at odds for the first time over Harry's wife.
MaLissa said…
Hi everybody!! RL is a little hectic right now so been lurking and reading the great posts. Sigh.. I thought The Queen said somewhere around Prince Philip's funeral or shortly thereafter was that no one use the name 'Lilibet' while she was still alive or something to that effect. I can't remember where I read it but it was in the papers/online when I read it.

I am ABSOLUTELY REVOLTED, REPUSED, ABHOR, REPELLED, and DISGUSTED (I'm sure I missed a few words - use whatever VILE words you can add) with them naming her that name. We (as in the avid Royal watchers not of #6 & his first wife) that Diana would be somewhere in there, but I didn't expect Lilibet. They didn't consult Her Majesty obviously since she would have said 'NO'. I'm glad they got their demotion on the the royal website, but they should be taken off it.

Oh and this "child" (since we don't have PROOF of said child) is already making money from the day she was "born". The website lilibetdiana.com was apparently applied for on June 4. Apologies if I'm repeating old news.

I have no objections to Lilibet, but they should have named her Elizabeth if they wanted to honour The Queen. Lilibet is a cute name, my cousin is named LILIBETH (notice the H at the end of the name) because she was born not long after The Queen's coronation and my aunt wanted a unique name that honoured Queen Elizabeth II. She doesn't go by Lilibeth, she goes by a nickname but that is her first legal name. I digress.

Anyway, several things I wish would also happen aside from the demotion on the royal website. Titles definitely have to go now and if Her Majesty is listening or her proxies reading here and elsewhere on social media, I say enough is enough, RELEASE THE KRAKEN.

Have a wonderful day Nutty and Nutties ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ’–
MaLissa said…
REPUSED = REPULSED

Sorry for the typo
Enbrethiliel said…
@Ava C
I still don't personally get - have never got - why M seems to focus on Eugenie as she often does.

Because Princess Eugenie had an emerald tiara?

It seems like nothing now, but Harry's wife was likely spitting nails during the Brookbanks' entire wedding. And still does whenever she remembers it.

(I love your description of the York princesses, by the way! They've slowly grown on me in a way I never imagined they would -- and I think it has more to do with their flaws than anything really stunning about them. A narc would never understand that.)
Enbrethiliel said…
@MaLissa
A few hundred comments ago, we were talking about the name "Lilibeth." I said it was fairly common in the Philippines and in other Spanish colonies, and was surprised to learn that it's the opposite case in the Europe and in English-speaking countries. Would your cousin happen to be Filipina or Hispanic?
Miggy said…
Sorry, off topic... but this is what WOKES like Meghan have achieved!

Now the Queen gets cancelled: Oxford's Magdalen college students vote to remove portrait of monarch from common room because she 'represents recent colonial history' and replace it with 'art by or of other inspirational people'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9664583/Oxford-University-college-votes-remove-portrait-Queen-common-room.html
DesignDoctor said…
@JennS

The before and after video--what a difference in H's affect and demeanor. "Before" he seems happy with W, K, and himself, laughing, part of the threesome, engaged with others. "After" he looks shell-shocked, unhappy, all alone, and like he is a hostage.

Thank you for sharing. The difference is indeed shocking.

Life with a narc is hell. They shred your self-esteem and steal your soul with their mind games and craziness.
Enbrethiliel said…
@MIggy
How about Prince Philip's painting of the Queen? He was a very inspirational person.

In all seriousness, "inspirational" is very subjective -- and in this case, it obviously means "whatever passes my purity test." Who can take those students seriously?
DesignDoctor said…
@jessica said:

Are her advisors there? Are they all to close to the madness to realize everything happening is just one terrible idea after another?

Don't forget MM does not take advice from anyone. She knows best--but her ideas turn out to be the worst!
As others have said, it's a train wreck.
SwampWoman said…
Miggy said...
Sorry, off topic... but this is what WOKES like Meghan have achieved!

Now the Queen gets cancelled: Oxford's Magdalen college students vote to remove portrait of monarch from common room because she 'represents recent colonial history' and replace it with 'art by or of other inspirational people'.


ROFL. Silly speciest students! Why are they discriminating against other mammals that paint?
Enbrethiliel said…
@Puds
After reading your comment, I checked the yarn crafting site Ravelry to see if there were any "Lilibet" patterns! None yet . . . but I wouldn't put it past a casual royal watcher (or a Harry fan) who had some talent in that area to design something as a tribute. Maybe a baby bonnet with lilies and uneven ribbing meant to suggest a crown.

Harry's wife wouldn't be able to merch it, though. If it ever happens, let's hope she doesn't sue the poor designer over it!
Girl with a Hat said…
I once was staying in a bed and breakfast in Zurich and a young Chinese woman who was studying at Oxford was also a guest. She had problems connecting to the wifi with her computer or something to that effect, so I suggested she use mine for 30 minutes to check her emails and stuff.

Thirty minutes later when I ask her for my computer back, she refuses because "she has to check the something something social club to see if it's mandatory or optional for her to attend". I tell her that I don't care, and that I want my computer back. She still refuses and asks me if I don't care about her future and career. This is the first time I laid eyes on this woman.

Finally, the innkeeper had to intercede to force her to give me back my computer.

Whenever I hear the words "Oxford" or "Cambridge", I think of her. I am sure both places are full of people like her. I think the Queen can rest easy knowing that normal people still hold Her in high esteem.
ShadeeRrrowz said…
@Miggy
“Very interesting comments under Lady C's latest video from a lady called Jennifer Olson regarding the 'birth' of Lilibet!”

I doubt this is true. Surrogacy in California is heavily regulated in favor of the intended parents. At around the five-month pregnancy mark, paperwork is required to be filed in the local family court naming the person/couple who will raise the child as the intended parents. Once signed by a judge, that order does several things. It names the intended parents and gives them full parental rights; it orders the hospital to put them on the birth certificate and it strips the surrogate of parental rights. There is no refusing to give her up.

If there was a surrogate, I doubt Harry and his wife were there for the birth to be sure to keep the secret. That means that child was likely taken to the nursery immediately until it could be picked up/delivered.
Teasmade said…
"Julie Burchill has been sacked by The Telegraph following her racist tweets about the Sussexes' newborn daughter."

Anybody know what she actually said?
Opus said…
@Girl with a Hat

I had come to the conclusion that one should neither lend nor borrow a computer. Neither do I think one should have one repaired. Much the same as for ones toothbrush.
Miggy said…
@Teasmade - Julie Burchill made a comment on Twitter suggesting that M should have named the baby Georgina Flloydina. (or similar) Can't recall the exact words now.
MaLissa said…

@MaLissa
A few hundred comments ago, we were talking about the name "Lilibeth." I said it was fairly common in the Philippines and in other Spanish colonies, and was surprised to learn that it's the opposite case in the Europe and in English-speaking countries. Would your cousin happen to be Filipina or Hispanic?

June 8, 2021 at 7:56 PM


Enbrethiel Yes she's Filipina born in Britain.
Teasmade said…
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Miggy said…
@ShadeeRrrowz,

Thanks for explaining CA surrogate laws. Appreciate it. :)
snarkyatherbest said…
Hikari - you are right, given how close the york girls are to the queen, i am guessing the queen said this is not your battle to wage/win. we kill with kindness so if ever the cousin sees hes way back into the family on every level, we will show that we have nothing to regret. Plus the york girls have a chance at limited patronages and extra cash - dont bite the hand that could feed them (did you get that Mrs Harry!) And their posts are subtle shade. They likely know what is going on with the harkle horror show Kudos to them

ShadeeRrrowz - good point; the court could seal the record given the celebrity nature of the couple. i imagine other hollywood types have done that too. or its a private adoption of some sort. So if the baby was in the nursery - could the get Uber or Amazon to deliver;-)

Girl with a Hat said…
has anyone addressed the fact that a 39 or 40 year old woman became pregnant only 7 weeks after her miscarriage last year?
Enbrethiliel said…
@Girl with a Hat

I believe that came up in the early comments. We were just so distracted by the sheer disrespect of the name choice that the timing seemed less urgent to point out.

And perhaps that's another reason why she chose it. Those most likely to ntoice the odd timing are even more likely to understand why the name choice is appalling. Sometimes we underestimate how cunning Harry's wife is.
Hikari said…
Responding to all the people who are pondering, why Eugenie, not Beatrice, is in Meg's sights.

Bea is the elusive York princess. Rarely seen, she flies under the radar, at least has done for the last 10 years or so, ever since she and her sister caused a stir (in an unfavorable way) over their choice of wacky fascinators for William's wedding. Bea is so stealth, she pulled off the brilliant Secret Garden wedding last July and Madam Montecito must have been *incandescent* to be as outfoxed as everyone in learning about it after the fact. Note, she couldn't ruin Bea's day with advance knowledge, so a few months after the fact she concocts a 'miscarriage' story which is meant to have occurred in July . . .hmm, around the exact day of Bea's wedding in fact. "While you all in England were in the Secret Garden, *I* was losing my second-not-to-be-born, So There!" We were meant to have our memories of Bea's lovely day spoilt by images of Smeagol lying on the floor in a pool of her own blood as she crooned to Arch and waited for the ambulance. *GUARANTEE* this is what she was after, spoiling Bea's day after the fact, in absentia.

I think that backfired, myself. Who actually believes she had a miscarriage and didn't just copy Julia Roberts' collapse from Steel Magnolias, including dialogue to 'the child' verbatim?

Back for more in a mo.
Maneki Neko said…
@Miggy

Thanks for the link to Twitter showing a photo of the wife's books. The name takes the whole length of the spine! I couldn't even see the title, it's probably in a tiny don't if at all. I checked my books, the author's name is not bigger than the book title unless the author is very well known. Even then, there is room for the title.

Re the Queen being cancelled and having her portrait replaced with 'art by or of other inspirational people'. (my italics). So the Queen is not inspirational enough? Maybe they'd rather have a portrait of the wife?? The mind boggles.
Maneki Neko said…
* don't, not 'don't' (autocorrect)
snarkyatherbest said…
After a day or so of reflection, i am glad they used lilabeth diana as a name. Shows they are vindictive nasty and certainly not winning. A name with no association with the family (and why not name the baby Sunshine after their favorite PR firm) would be an FU, the BRF is so yesterday. Sunshine Gates Markle is where its at; so much more modern. This just shows me the BRF is winning!

MaLissa - hmmm is there a single Filipino billionaire that the Mrs is angling for post divorce ;-)

Maneki Neko said…
* grr... It's done it again! Font - not don't.
Maneki Neko said…
@RaspberryRufle said

As a Nutty who lurks more than she posts ...
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I wish you could post more, I always like your posts.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Hikari
We were meant to have our memories of Bea's lovely day spoilt by images of Smeagol lying on the floor in a pool of her own blood as she crooned to Arch and waited for the ambulance.

Well, that was an epic fail for Harry's wife! Even after you underlined the graphic details she wanted to force on us, it still has nothing on those lovely pictures of Princess Beatrice, her vintage dress and tiara, and the summer flowers at the chapel.

Harry's wife either waited too long to launch that salvo or Princess Beatrice's PR game was simply too strong for her. You're more observant than most, @Hikari, so it's no surprise that you noticed. But I don't think even the most saccharine sugar connected the intended dots between the lonely miscarriage and the garden wedding party. There was probably generic negativity toward the BRF, but the missile missed its mark by a mile.
snarkyatherbest said…
Hikari - while i think both girls are well connected, Bea was close to being engaged to a tech guy and is very much in the know on silcon valley types. Maybe the mrs was trying not to do too much damage initially when she was thinking about her SussexRoyal brand (think instagram). With all bets off and no SussexRoyal brand, and still getting somewhat blacklisted by tech types she probably doesnt care anymore and then set her sights on bea. Also bea strikes me as the type who will fight back and probably dirty if allowed. dont know why its just the vibe.
ShadeeRrrowz said…
@Miggy

No problem! We have enough (mis)information to sort through. Besides, HIPPA be damned. If Harry's wife didn't personally give birth in that hospital, it will get out and there will be something there to back it up.
snarkyatherbest said…
Just saw the princess Bea pic of cupping the belly - i think it is total shade throwing cant believe a royal even caught off duty by a pap doing that inadvertently. too low and she isnt looking down like the baby was kicking there Bea is becoming a favorite for sure
Ava C said…
More from the JFK Jr book because there's a very telling passage about Oprah and what she's really like:

"[JFK Jr] agreed to sit down for an hour long interview with Oprah Winfrey. Winfrey’s daytime talk show, already the highest rated in America, could not have scored a better coup than snagging John for its eleventh season premiere. She had begged John in the past to appear on her show, but he always resisted. He did not want to rehash his childhood or be asked the same questions about his father. But now, John believed, circumstances had changed. He saw the interview as an opportunity to reintroduce himself to America as an adult and as the successful editor of a hot new magazine. To make sure the conversation stayed focused on the present, John extracted a promise from Winfrey that she would not show any photos of him as a child. Yet within the first few minutes, while John described the Calder interview, the audience at home saw a family photo revealing John as a child in his mother’s arms. Later in the interview, Winfrey projected the famous image of John saluting his father’s casket. When John returned to the office, he complained [...] “I was three years old. I have no memory of doing that.” He later called Winfrey to complain. “Well, it’s television,” she reportedly said. “Get over it.”

"Winfrey could be so dismissive partly because she got what she wanted from the appearance. John gave her show its highest season premiere rating ever."
Perhaps that Oxford College should put up a copy of the photo of HM having a whale of a time dancing with Kwame Nkrumah at the Ghanaian Independence bash in 1961?

https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/comments/d7s5ig/queen_elizabeth_ii_dancing_with_the_president_of/

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I hadn't done the arithmetic on the miscarriage and the birth but it did strike me as being unlikely.

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GWAH - Please don't make generalisations about universities based on one arrogant piece of work. You don't know who your fellow Nutties are after all. That said, I was staggered by the number of her fellow countryfolk in Cambridge when I was last there. It may be less to do with where she was studying than other aspects of her background.

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Burchill never minces her words.

“What a missed opportunity! They could have called it Georgina Floydina!” She also called the baby `it' and I think she said wtte the inclusivity of the book only went so far.

From Pink News:

“I called the baby IT as a nod to non-binary b*****ks – and if you think you can make me respect a violent criminal who once held a gun to a pregnant woman’s stomach, you’re in for a VERY long wait,” she wrote in a now-deleted tweet.

“Have a good time with your pearl-clutching, life-wasting woo-woo, ya clowns!”
Sylvia said…
@Hikari
This article about Club H was interesting

It asks if Charles was responsible for Harry's slide into drugs use ..

The article states the fact it was William who came up with the idea of arranging for Harry to visit a rehabilitation clinic for addicts
not Charles ..

Again Prince William to the rescue of his brother #6



https://www.cannabisskunksense.co.uk/articles/press-article/harrys-cannabis-smokingcharles-godsons-crack-addiction-and-the-tragedy-of-t
HappyDays said…
H.G. Tudor in one of his A Less Than Royal Narcissist youtube analyses, titled Harry’s Wife ALTRN: Pt. 57.6, which was published today, cites a news article saying that Meghan’s much-ballyhooed children's book the bench had a lackluster debut on the UK bestsellers list, debuting at the not-so-lofty position of #206. So it didn’t even break the top 200 books. Meanwhile, Kate’s photography book Hold Still debuted at #2 several weeks ago and is still holding a respectable place ahead of The Bench. I believe Tudor said Kate’s book is at #160 on the bestseller list.

This is not exactly the big debut Meghan expected, especially since there were likely bulk orders made by Archewell, Sunshine Sachs, or other outside sources to inflate the sales.

I do not believe it has been published in the US, so they’d better get those bulk orders in asap.

At least we all know what everyone in Meghan’s circle will be getting for Christmas.
Ava C said…
Well I worked at the University of Cambridge for 20 years and the students are like people the world over. Some arrogant. Many friendly. Very conscientous, motivated and hard working in my experience.

I've always remembered the months I spent working in a basement in a room with no windows because they'd run out of space. One student came downstairs every Monday lunchtime before lectures to say hello as he was concerned I may not see anyone and would be lonely. Later I had a big office of my own upstairs and was there at 10pm making paper chains for the Christmas party. One of the PhD students working late saw me and came in to help me till nearly midnight.

Of course many were from privileged backgrounds but I was never made aware of it. There must be stereotypical Cambridge students around but I never met them. Wokedom was advancing when I left and it made me very gloomy but I think all universities are following the same path. I'm glad I'm the age I am now.
You’ve got to laugh – a syndicated report on PC’s visit to the BMW factory bears the title
Prince Charles Speaks Out for First Time After Granddaughter Lilibet's Birth: 'Such Happy News'

Here’s what he really said:

The Prince of Wales made the personal comment about the June 4 arrival of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's daughter during a speech he gave on Tuesday at a carmakers' factory in Cowley.

As he spoke about innovation and sustainability at BMW's Mini factory, he said, "The development of technology like electric vehicles, or green hydrogen for that matter for heavy transport, is vital for maintaining the health of our world for future generations, something I am only too aware of today, having recently become a grandfather for the fifth time."

"Such happy news really does remind one of the necessity of continued innovation in this area - especially around sustainable battery technology - in view of the legacy we bequeath to our grandchildren," he continued.
Midge said…
@Hikari
I read the article you posted from Insider and tend to agree that Meghan probably wrote it. Catherine is referred to as Kate Middleton throughout the article except for the times this was shortened to "William and Middleton" or in one case just Middleton! Sounds like someone with a grudge against the Duchess of Cambridge.
GWAH,

I've got to agree with @Ava C. I understand the problem that you had with the girl and the computer, but I have to agree that just one incident doesn't give you an overview of the types of people at some of the best universities in the world. Universities everywhere have bad people and good people, just as cities and towns do.

Also, I'd never loan my computer, especially to a stranger, under any circumstances.
You never know if they've put some sort of monitoring device in your computer to track your every move.
Hikari said…
@Snarky

Hikari - while i think both girls are well connected, Bea was close to being engaged to a tech guy and is very much in the know on silcon valley types. Maybe the mrs was trying not to do too much damage initially when she was thinking about her SussexRoyal brand (think instagram). With all bets off and no SussexRoyal brand, and still getting somewhat blacklisted by tech types she probably doesnt care anymore and then set her sights on bea. Also bea strikes me as the type who will fight back and probably dirty if allowed. dont know why its just the vibe.

I gather that Bea's title is Vice-President of Development for Infiniti, a software company, so yes, she's tech-connected, though I'd never heard of Infiniti and wonder if it is exclusive to Europe? She may be acquainted with some tech millionaires, if not billionaires through work, but her marriage to an Italian count/real estate magnate with his own titles and fortune (and a castle, of which Beatrice is now chatelaine) surely will have overtaken that in Smeg's eyes? One reason to cling to the 'Duchess of Sussex' title with both of her claw hands . . since Bea is only a 'Countess', and an Italian one at that.

But guess what, Duch--Bea will be a blood royal forever, which means that you would always be compelled to curtsy to both Princesses of York if the Ginger Knob wasn't in the room. Actually Catherine has to curtsy to them if she is solo as well, at least until she becomes Princess of Wales. You've always wanted to have something the same as Kate, so there you go.

I think Bea is actually a very shy person who does not seek out/crave the limelight. Eugenie definitely gets more press attention these days, but once the shoe was on the other foot and Bea was often in the headlines for her romantic relationships/clubbing. She probably had enough of that, not to mention the criticism for her dress sense/weight that seemed to dog both girls when they were younger and single. I don't really get a sense that she'd be vindictive or fight dirty as such. A woman who was willing to be made an instant stepmother to her fiance's child doesn't strike me as that type of person. I do believe that she is fiercely loyal to her family, however, and would adhere to any Team York strategems on dealing with the Markle Debacle. Despite their parents' multitudinous sins, the girls both seem to have good and close relationships with the Queen and with Prince Philip when he was here. They would not jeopardize that by either making 'secret' alliances with the Sussexes, who are firmly in the doghouse, perpetuate lies in the media such as Harry has the power to sublet Frogmore Cottage without the Queen's express permission . . and conversely, neither would want to embarrass or distress their grandmother by making an open show of hostility toward the couple Granny seems determined to promote as 'much loved members of my family.' Privately, I bet the dish among the York women is . . .lively . . when the subject of Smeaghan comes up, but outwardly all we will get are these small hints that the York drawbridge is firmly up viz. Smegs.

Just saw the princess Bea pic of cupping the belly - i think it is total shade throwing cant believe a royal even caught off duty by a pap doing that inadvertently. too low and she isn't looking down like the baby was kicking there Bea is becoming a favorite for sure

Haven't seen that picture yet myself but if it was truly shade-throwing rather than some unconscious natural gesture, it's pretty mild and classy shade. If intentional, also well-coordinated with her sister's Instagram offering. I can only smile and say let them have their sport, after Smeagol's rapacious display at Euge's wedding. The B* has it coming. They are only throwing her own games back in her face.

Henrietta said…
Blogger JennS said...

Check out this video of Harry - before and after Meghan Markle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxOOptS3tf8

The longer this story goes on the more convinced I am that Markle has completely mind-f**ked Harry.

And I'm back to my original theory from the beginning of this nightmare regarding the RF's reaction to this situation - they are tiptoeing around the Harkles because they are afraid Harry will harm himself.


The slide presentation was very stark and sad. I agree with you about the self-harm.

The pictures from the Sussexes' night at the Royal Albert Hall were especially interesting. I can imagine PH having been told something horrible by Flower just before their arrival there. But, again, she seems just fine. Definitely not looking depressed or suicidal. If anything, she looks very content.

Henrietta said…
Blogger ShadeeRrrowz said...

@Miggy

“Very interesting comments under Lady C's latest video from a lady called Jennifer Olson regarding the 'birth' of Lilibet!”

I doubt this is true. Surrogacy in California is heavily regulated in favor of the intended parents...There is no refusing to give her up.

If there was a surrogate, I doubt Harry and his wife were there for the birth to be sure to keep the secret.


ShadeeRrrowz, thank you for all the legal info! Do you think Harry and Flower could have pulled off a surrogate birth with no press leaks?
Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey, 21, split with his girlfriend in 2020, and it appears that he's still single. Harry's wife wouldn't mind a billionaire young guy to marry and to control. He's worth $12 billion. That should do nicely for Harry's wife.
Maneki Neko said…
Now Meghan Markle's children's book is consigned to half-price bargain sale on day it is released

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9665067/Meghan-Markles-childrens-book-consigned-half-price-bargain-sale.html#comments

Even if it was free I don't think they'd be any takers.
AnT said…
Jack is actually in his 40s..... 44 — born in 1976.

But I am sure she has him on her 90s-style vision board!
@Henrietta,

That video of Harry before and after MM made me tear up. He looked so happy, and now look at this shell of a man. Thanks for posting the video.
Miggy said…
@henrietta said:

"The pictures from the Sussexes' night at the Royal Albert Hall were especially interesting. I can imagine PH having been told something horrible by Flower just before their arrival there. But, again, she seems just fine. Definitely not looking depressed or suicidal. If anything, she looks very content."

The reason H looks *out of sorts*... is because moments before that photo was taken they were loudly booed by a small proportion of the audience.

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Apologies to anyone that I haven't replied to... but I'm in agony here with a slipped disc!
Ava C said…
Just watched Lady C's latest. She didn't mince her words! I think that's the most strongly-worded video she's done so far, that I've seen. She was far less circuitous than usual. The difference in the surrogacy laws between the UK and US really highlighted the differences between the births. It feels as if they know they're on stronger ground this time.
Hikari said…
As he spoke about innovation and sustainability at BMW's Mini factory, he said, "The development of technology like electric vehicles, or green hydrogen for that matter for heavy transport, is vital for maintaining the health of our world for future generations, something I am only too aware of today, having recently become a grandfather for the fifth time."

"Such happy news really does remind one of the necessity of continued innovation in this area - especially around sustainable battery technology - in view of the legacy we bequeath to our grandchildren," he continued.


;) ;) ;)


@Puds
Having a fifth grandchild reminded him of.. Innovations.. around ..Battery technology?

Ha ha, He's got a sense of humour.


Oh, snap! Charlemagne wins the hand for 'subtle snark'. That is so dry, so English, so veddy Chulls . .love it.

It's unfortunate that Charles is not viewed as a publicly charismatic person because all the stories I hear about him in private or on royal engagement in more informal moments is that he can be very witty. Kind of like his mother, the quips are quick and unexpected.

I've read also that he writes his own speeches. If he had to do some last-minute surgery on that line to shoehorn in a reference to a fifth grandchild whom he will never meet--hasn't met the fourth one yet--that points to a quick mind.
Sylvia said…
'Meghan Markle's 'overjoyed' mother Doria Ragland wasn't present at Lilbet's birth but is helping out couple at their $14M Montecito mansion, sources tell Page Six'

A response to this posted on tumblr

Yeh, but... Neither was Meghan.
I just registered the name Lilibetscloset.com. It was on sale for $2.99/yr, and I did it for two years.

If anybody wants to join me in trying to buy any and all domain names that The Harkles might want to use, please sign up for a domain name. Let's stop her in her tracks.
PS This was on Go Daddy.
Oh Floof said…
A few commenters on the latest Lady C video pointed out that the Queen removed the Sussex Royal merching opportunities, so Meghan got her back by merching (potentially) the Queen’s beloved nickname. But I did a quick search of the US trademark database and the US copyright database and did not find “Lilibet” in either. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I wonder how much merching she can really do. The Sussexes never successfully merched Archie, besides a brief H&M ad about Archie’s outfit in his South Africa debut, and mentions on Meghan’s Mirror. And naming their foundation after him. But it is hard to merch a child you don’t show. So will they show the new baby girl? Will her face be on the tags of a Lilibet line of Target clothes, as Lady C postulated? If yes, people will wonder why they displayed their daughter but not their son. If Harry really is as protective of his family as he claims, he should be against all merching that involves displaying the kids. This will be interesting. Meghan dumped her Reitmans contract once she joined the royal orbit. Will she perceive a Target line (or better yet, a Home Shopping Network or QVC line) as a step down?
ShadeeRrrowz said…
@henrietta

“ShadeeRrrowz, thank you for all the legal info! Do you think Harry and Flower could have pulled off a surrogate birth with no press leaks?”

I do think they could pull it off. Like I said in my previous post, gestational surrogacy is heavily regulated and intended parents get a lot of rights and a lot of privacy.

First of all, regardless of who gave birth, I don’t think anyone would have though of it happening at Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital. Cedars-Sinai is the go-to for most celebs in the LA area. Something that struck me as odd from the birth announcement:

“Lili was born on Friday, June 4 at 11:40 a.m. in the trusted care of the doctors and staff at Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital in Santa Barbara, CA,"

When Archie was born, we got nothing. No hospital, no mention of doctors and certainly no names. This is very different, and to me, very telling. It was like he appeared from the mist. That tells me that regardless of who gave birth it probably did happen here. Personally, I think she’s trolling us by dropping this information this time around.

Also, I can’t recall ever seeing a papped pic of a celebrity in the US being shown going into a hospital to give birth or leaving after. I could be wrong, but I truly don’t think I have. Of course, the thirsty ones live stream from their hospital beds, but we don’t get pictures of them coming and going.

If Harry and Meghan were not at the hospital when the baby arrived, there is almost no one to know. The pre-birth order would have been given to the hospital legal department. Staff providing care would only know it was a surrogacy and be given instructions on what the intended parents wanted medically. If the baby was picked up by a third party, no one is the wiser.

I will apologize in advance for spelling/grammar/other mistakes. I broke my right wrist about five weeks ago and typing is not easy. I tried to catch them all but might not have. Hopefully after the cast comes off next week and I can try to contribute more.
SirStinxAlot said…
@JocelynB...LilbetsTrunk since high fashion has trunk shows not closet shows. Small children have trunks for their small toys. Like Darren dolls aka Archie.
@SirStinx,

That's a great one! Is there any chance that you would buy that name from Go Daddy? It would be only $2.99 for a year.

I had many trunk shows when I had my clothing stores.
Sylvia said…

@ Jocelyn'sBellinis said...

I just registered the name Lilibetscloset.com. It was on sale for $2.99/yr, and I did it for two years.
Great work There must be lots more names to grab
This might annoy the wife


Business details

Business name:Lilibet Collections


First name:Elizabeth


Last name:Searle


Address:19 Garden Close
Exeter
EX2 5PA
UK


Email:lilibetsbaby@outlook.com




@ lilibets baby boutique facebook

lilibets_baby_boutique



Welcome to Lilibet Collections Baby Boutique! We are a family run business based in Devon, we pride ourselves in being able to offer baby clothes, shoes and gifts ranging from Premature/Tiny baby to 24 months. We offer unique gift baskets, unusual baby shower presents and even handmade products including hand knitted baby cardigans, jackets and blankets. We also create a range of bunting, bibs and outfits. All our Lilibet's products are made from quality fabrics or soft baby wool. Our Premature Little Gems range offers gifts for tiny tots ranging from 3-5lbs to 5-8lbs to celebrate the new and early arrival! We also have a luxury gift basket range from 0-3 months to take the wow factor to any baby shower! If we don't have what you are looking for why not drop us a message as we are always willing to help source those special gifts

@Shadee,

Notice that it doesn't say that the baby was born to MM?

Compare that to Catherine's announcement:

"In a royal first, Kensington Palace broke the news on Twitter, saying: “Her Royal Highness, The Duchess of Cambridge was safely delivered of a daughter at 8.34 a.m. Her Royal Highness and her child are both doing well.” Dec 1, 2020
********************************
I hope that your wrist is healing nicely, and a big shout out to you for typing that long post while your wrist is in a cast.


ShadeeRrrowz said…
@Jocelyn’sBellinis

“Notice that it doesn't say that the baby was born to MM?”

Oh, I noticed. LOL! Of course we were never going to get the high-level, formulaic language we get from the palace but this announcement says a lot in what it doesn’t say.

“I hope that your wrist is healing nicely, and a big shout out to you for typing that long post while your wrist is in a cast.”

Thank you. This happened the day after I promised myself was going to participate more here. I knew good stuff was coming. LOL!
Elsbeth1847 said…
Well well well.

The latest is the Queen has zoomed and met her namesake. Not anything so far about Prince Charles on video but yet another Royal specialist is saying that they will be trying to come to the UK to make a face to face introduction just as fast as they can.

And Omid has announced they will not be giving out any photos of Lili at this time.

My own personal take is that there is a lot being talked about how supportive the Queen is, or doing a zoom and so on but we know that the palace almost never comments about things unless it is an outright no-no like the doctor who was pushing the idea that Catherine was having some baby-box at his clinic. So these comments are rarely stopped publicly which I think encourages more talk about how everyone is very supportive of this name. A feeding frenzy of alleged support with no real facts to base it on.

Or the secret call to Catherine for assistance because she is a quiet source of power/knowledge and the ability to talk to the other powers to help 6/6wife keep their titles. This is another one of those putting her in a bind. She may or may not want to assist or even the ability to assist AND/BUT she may not be privy to what the latest discussions are within the family about how to handle 6/6wife. But this "press" will then turn on her if the request to keep the titles fails (as if she had all the control) and Catherine can't say anything back. Not now. Not if they do lose the titles.

This is what really bothers me about a lot of the so called royal watchers. Some have been doing it for years and have some long term relationships with the royals and the people who work for them. Others are Johnny Come Latelys who like the idea and give their "knowledge" from their world of experience instead of from the institution of the BRF. Sorta want to give it a modern spin/flavor because they think of themselves as hip and more in touch or something instead of from the historical perspective that the BRF lives in daily.

Ava - which JFK Jr book? thanks
JennS said…
Just wanted to repost some info I left here recently since it pertains to the naming of a royal child.
The excerpt pasted below is from an article by Dr Jonathan Spangler who is a senior lecturer in history at Manchester Metropolitan University specializing in the history of monarchy across Europe.
Using Archie and Lilibet as names for royal children is so disgraceful on many levels. It's quite obvious that the RF sticks with a certain set of historic names. Markle would probably claim that choosing these names was an attempt on her part to modernize the monarchy but IMO it's one of the ways she tried to hurt them.

Royal baby names: does the Queen have to approve?

First names are carefully considered, and while there is no formal requirement for a sovereign’s approval on the naming of a royal child, behind closed doors there are certainly processes to ensure family solidarity. Several hundred years of dynastic tradition in Britain have generated a list of preferred names: Edward, William, Charles, James, George, Henry, and so on for boys; Anne, Mary, Elizabeth, Alice or Charlotte for girls. Some nods have been made to a more Romantic ancient British past in names like Arthur, Alfred or Edgar, and for a time in the late 19th century dozens of royal children across Europe were called either Albert or Victoria.

More recently some new names have appeared in the British royal family: the traditionally French Louis (for Prince Charles’s favourite uncle and godfather, Louis Mountbatten); the historically Scottish Andrew (though in fact named for Prince Philip’s father, Prince Andrew of Greece); or even the more exotic Eugenie (famously the wife of Emperor Napoleon III).


Chuck referenced lil bit O diana today. Talked about the happy news of his most recent grandchild and that he has 5 now and we need to keep the future green for them.
JennS said…
@ShadeeRrrowz
Thanks for all the info on surrogacy laws in CA.
I was surprised that Markle named the hospital. She tried to keep that info quiet the last time around - originally announcing she planned to give birth at home and then only releasing the hospital name after it was basically pried out of her.
Could we possibly hope that info about her NOT personally giving birth there will get leaked by a hospital employee?
AnT said…

So, does anyone verse have a funny feeling about the new baby?

In a nutshell, I think the baby

1. Isn’t actually born yet, but they thought saying it was would drum up press attention for the release of her The Bench book

2. Was born a couple of weeks ago

3. There are issues.

Something about the blabby press release with all the “why the name” nonsense, plus the lack of even a black and white photo of a baby fist or bundle, now the “there will be no photo” stuff.....seems ultra sketchy to me. Even more sketchy than Archie. Forget the whole getting pregnant four seconds after a miscarriage stuff. I am talking.....something is weird. Weirder than usual. I don’t like it. The silence. The furious Harry sighting.

Someone is planning something.

And thus I don’t believe there was a zoom intro, etc.

I think....well.







Teasmade said…
AnT: What furious Harry sighting? I must have missed something.
AnT said…
*anyone here have a

^^^^
Furious Harry sighting? Deets! Who saw him and why/how was he furious? Cursing? Threatening? Old Harry behavior?
NeutralObserver said…
Ok, I have to be honest. I don't really care about the birth of Clarabell, or whatever the name of this alleged baby is. I really don't care about her brother, Alfalfa, either. I'm intrigued by whether or not the BRF has foolishly allowed themselves to be drawn into to a hoax, which saddens me, as it seems to be an indication of how far Britain has declined in importance & competence, & might be a harbinger of the decline of my own beloved country, the USA.

Most people aren't aware of the history of the name Lillibet, so it's obviously a passive-aggressive attack on the BRF as a family, which is pretty petty & nasty.

The wording of the BP response, 'FOR the Duke & Duchess of Sussex' as well as the wording of the announcement from the Sussex 'press office' 'welcoming' the addition are strong hints that the wife didn't actually give birth to this infant. I will be interested to see if the little girl is as homely as little 'Archie' is. If she is, that will actually make me believe the children actually are real. Surely, if Megs were hiring child actors, she would have hired some little biracial beauties, not unappealing children like the ones who have been displayed
@AnT, my vote is for #1. It would be like her to use a child to drum up business and her ego. And remind me when the angry Harry thing happened? Do you reckon he got pissed because she was going to go forward with the lie/PR campaign about the kid being born to drum up business?
TP's frog said that they each have a wing of the house and are both living there but aren't together together.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Jocelyn

Could try Lilibetterup.con
Or Lilibutterup.con

“Better Bitter Butter on your knife”
Old Country Life butter ad ๐Ÿ˜‰

AnT said…
@Teasmade
@Sugar,

This: from the BarkJack celeb news feed out of Rome, which is notoriously accurate.
"Owenshire" as JennS pointed out is the name of an estate bordering the Sussexes'
alleged mansion.


THERESA LONGO FANS
@BarkJack
·
Jun 5
“Owenshire” property management mistakenly stopped a “fuming” Prince Harry who was cooling off on a walk after a #Megxit Montecito Mansion dust-up. Tension apparently sky high with mere weeks until the birth of baby 2. That’s all the details we have!
AnT said…
@ConstantGardener33,
See my previous 2:47 AM post about the "Angry Harry" sighting. Like you, I think it is #1 (my baby suspicions list), but again, somehow something is pinging to me, after absorbing all the of nonsense of the last ten days. I can't put my finger on it or even why I have a weird feeling, maybe I am just tired, but I do. Something seems....off. Large, and off. I rarely get feelings like this, so, ugh.


@Miggy
@ShadeeRrrrowz
I hope you will both have a quick recovery! So sorry about your extreme pain, Miggy, back pain is the worst. And Shadee, mind that wrist but keep commenting!!! Are we racking up Blogger Injuries here from this duo's escapades?? We already have @JennS heading to major surgery and @Wild Boar Battle-maid undergoing tests. Everyone, be well! We need you all as the mystery thickens!

Magatha Mistie said…

Snippet from the DM article on ‘The Bench’
“The mother-of-two cradles her daughter,
Lilbet Diana Mountbatten-Windsor,
who arrived on Friday”
Hahaha, Arrived!! Perfect shade๐Ÿ˜œ
AnT said…

@Jocelyn's Bellinis,
Wow, great idea --- so I have just started my GoDaddy shopping basket....

------

@NeutralObserver,
Your comment is really thought provoking, but this part make me laugh out loud: ...to be honest. I don't really care about the birth of Clarabell, or whatever the name of this alleged baby is. I really don't care about her brother, Alfalfa, either.. !!!!!!!

Now to this part: I'm intrigued by whether or not the BRF has foolishly allowed themselves to be drawn into to a hoax -- I know exactly what you mean. It smells like a massive drawn-out hoax, or scam, to me. But I would they have the best intel from M16 etc don't they? And Lord Geidt hovering around there too somewhere.....are they fooled, are they allowing themselves to appear fooled, are they playing dumb to make Her more confident and brazen about the scam, waiting for her arrogance to trip her up in a huge way, so tossing her out with an ear of corn and a deck of cards will be easy?
JennS said…
@AnT

I agree circumstances are odd and in a different way than Archie.
I get the feeling from Scobie's comment about pictures that we will not be seeing any images of this child for quite a while.

For Archie's birth, we were 'treated' to the Darren presentation a couple of days after delivery.
Then we next saw a photo of his feet dangling over forget-m-not flowers, although I don't recall offhand how much time went by before this photo was uploaded to their Instagram. This was followed by the sepia image of a tiny baby 'caged' inside Harry's giant hand.

This time around I get the impression that there will be no pics until after their 'maternity leave' - in 5 months!

Could the lack of a photo be the Harkles being obnoxious about sharing their child just yet? She has made such a stink about showing Archie and could be deliberately trying to annoy the public and the RF by withholding images. She is out of the UK and can get away with doing so for a longer period of time.

Or perhaps the poor baby is not quite presentable yet according to MM's viewpoint. Maybe little Lili-BOT suffers from odd but temporary swollen and distorted features that MM would want to hide until they disappeared.
Maybe she possesses ears that are folded down, a flattened nose, or a crooked jaw due to the trauma of the delivery. Or perhaps during birth her head was molded into an elongated shape with a peak at the top.

Megalomaniac Markle would want to hide her from the world until any strange delivery-caused wonkiness settled down.

I also would not be surprised if the baby wasn't here yet as you sugested and she had some reason to want the announcement out now.
AnT said…
@NeutralObserver,
I may be alone, but I don't find the little Archie actors homely. I think they actually have the more unique looks that might be more bankable today, since tastes are changing. Models are not necessarily attractive, if they have presence or a name, for example. Quirky makes $.
So from that standpoint, Archie might be bankable.

That said -- I think they bought the Reborn Darren Doll for quick use when something went askew with the first surrogate. The doll was lily white, as were the baby photos they borrowed from the Mulroneys to run as their own. And so, they had to stick with that concept of a white child; indeed, it has been figured out here and on LSA that Meghan herself is only about 1/4 Black. And Harry is of course as white as it gets. So it made sense, rolling all that up, to stick or be stuck with what they could rent or borrow (friends' children, South African rental baby, a kid Uncle Elton knew, etc.). Megs (some will disagree with me) seems to identify with her white identity more than anything, from her surgeries and hair straightening to her sorority choice, friends, and the men she dates. BLM was just the nearest fat money PR bandwagon. So the whole "what about Doria?" skirmish over the new baby name threw her, I think ---she is so obsessed with thinking she IS the royal in the family, a heartbeat from being Queen, Charles' real daughter, or the reincarnation of Diana. Her Diana fetish will mean she probably arranged for a white blonde baby to be born or purchased.

But with the backlash over skipping the use of Doria in the name, and once again seeming to use Doria as "hired help" -- she has trouble her bubble brain can't process.

Are they scrambling fast to get a more biracial child? Are they not releasing photos because, gah, this is the blonde baby she bought to totally sucker and mindf**k her mommy-obsessed husband?

I think something even more sad/sinister is going on, and I hope I am wrong. I mean, it's all bad enough already.
@AnT, hmm so the timing would kind of add up there. Interesting.
I understand about the weird feelings. Listening to one's gut is rarely wrong.
JennS said…
Puds said...
@ Jenns, I think that was why Harry's offical name is Henry.
............
@Puds
Yes! And shame on him for allowing MM to choose nicknames for their "children".


@NeutralObserver
Nice to see you here again.
Great comment! I too am saddened by the thought that the RF has been drawn into a hoax. After the most recent legal actions, I have been feeling very disappointed at the thought that the Firm must be shielding the Harkles.
AnT said…
@JennS,

Since they don't show ever really us the baby anyway really -- they could easily get away with a little fist emerging from a downy blanket and call it a day. But they have chosen to show NOTHING. Not even the day her book dropped (and keeps dropping, lower and lower, lol).

There is also the peculiar fact there are so many available domain choices to buy. I ran through a list of 11 already. Not like them, yet Lili would be more marketable from their perspective than poor Archie.

And supposedly fuming or upset or angry Harry.

So, "baby not here yet" is probably my first choice, logically Especially if Harry hadn't been told of the planned "it's here!" scam until after she called the palace....he might be furious and scared about discovery, and seen stomping around an estate.

But still -- why no photo of any kind, no sketch even? A "first sketch" by the book's illustrator would be a brilliant PR move.

But no.

Why were we told the hospital? And a lengthy essay about the name (which, oops, left out the recently desperately discovered Aunt Lille, of course)....lots of info, but, no info. No photo. Just this name that means so much to England and the Queen. This pretense that using her very private nickname would warm her heart....no..... this insistence on telling the UK that "Lillibet #2 is here....." to force some sort of connection between the UK and the child from even the most cynical.....why?

I am telling you, I have -- well call it an uneasy feeling. I have a question in to my LA friend.


SirStinxAlot said…
If anything, the Harkles are trying to do a Beyonce by selling Lili photos to the highest bidder to publish. Will it be Oprah, People Magazine, or Page 6? Don't expect photos til they find a sucker to pay a rediculously overpriced sum.
AnT said…

@Puds,

this time, I hope my funny gut feeling is 100% wrong.

.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Puds

So much for madams
“Inclusivity & Diversity”
As AnT pointed out,
no “two daddies” pictured.
Not to mention the fact
there’s an awful lot of kids
without daddies!



NeutralObserver said…
@AnT, so happy I could give you a chuckle. You've given all of us Nutties so many laughs. This is another hinky, dubious birth announcement. All the subterfuge is just tedious. We don't really care about the Harkles. We just want to know how the trick was done. Then, we want the Harkles to go away. The 'real' Royal Family can afford to be boring. That's what they're supposed to be. They're Classics, like Barbour coats. Jaguars, scones & Shakespeare. Charles visiting the Mini plant in Oxfordshire was adorably British & Fuddy-Duddy. That brand will always be appealing. I don't think Clarabell will mend fences with the 'real' royal family, & I don't think Lillibet will sell much merchandise at Walmart. Stuff has to be appealing to sell, even at rock bottom prices. Look at the wife's tacky book. Eric Carle's Caterpillar books are still bestsellers, just as they were when my kids were young. I think a lot of companies are going to go broke being 'woke.'
Blonde Gator said…
@ Ava C & Jenn S

(apologies ~ my laptop keyboard is sticky and punctuation is iffy ~

There was a documentary a few years ago done by TLC ~ called "The Lost Tapes" ~ about the JFK Jr/Carolyn Bissette wedding ~ it was so sad yet very charming ~

Here is a YT bit they ran as a trailer and the title showed up on Amazon when I searched on the title

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voHA6DB2Uro

The wedding was done for the sake of real privacy ~ not the HM$ faux privacy for merching!
AnT said…
@NeutralObserver,
Again, your comment is so perfect:

another hinky, dubious birth announcement. All the subterfuge is just tedious. We don't really care about the Harkles. We just want to know how the trick was done. Then, we want the Harkles to go away. The 'real' Royal Family can afford to be boring. That's what they're supposed to be. They're Classics, like Barbour coats. Jaguars, scones & Shakespeare. Charles visiting the Mini plant in Oxfordshire was adorably British & Fuddy-Duddy. That brand will always be appealing. I don't think Clarabell will mend fences with the 'real' royal family, & I don't think Lillibet will sell much merchandise at Walmart.

ALL of this!!!!!!

May I add, the word "hinky" just made my stupid tiring week and my mood 10000% better. Thank you.

Their whole game IS so hinky isn't it??????? Don't you feel they are flying off the rails now?
abbyh said…
I was thinking they might be holding off and seeing if photos could be sold too.

Life around here is never dull.
JennS said…
**DesignDoctor said...
@JennS
The before and after video--what a difference in H's affect and demeanor. "Before" he seems happy with W, K, and himself, laughing, part of the threesome, engaged with others. "After" he looks shell-shocked, unhappy, all alone, and like he is a hostage.
Thank you for sharing. The difference is indeed shocking.

**Henrietta said...
Blogger JennS said...
Check out this video of Harry - before and after Meghan Markle
The longer this story goes on the more convinced I am that Markle has completely mind-f**ked Harry.
And I'm back to my original theory from the beginning of this nightmare regarding the RF's reaction to this situation - they are tiptoeing around the Harkles because they are afraid Harry will harm himself.
.................
The slide presentation was very stark and sad. I agree with you about the self-harm.
The pictures from the Sussexes' night at the Royal Albert Hall were especially interesting. I can imagine PH having been told something horrible by Flower just before their arrival there. But, again, she seems just fine. Definitely not looking depressed or suicidal. If anything, she looks very content.

**Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
@Henrietta,
That video of Harry before and after MM made me tear up. He looked so happy, and now look at this shell of a man. Thanks for posting the video.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
⭐@DesignDoctor, @Henrietta, and @Jocelyn's Bellinis

Glad you were able to view the video of "Harry before and after Markle"!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
The contrast is so great that I don't know why the RF hasn't enacted some type of extraction...especially if there are no DNA-related children. So many people who actually know Harry have said he is a completely different person now. I think she has really worked him over very skillfully using the kernels of discontent he had and brainwashed him into the resentful whining zombie he is today.
Watching the clips and viewing the photos you can see how well Harry and William got along. I doubt H was that jealous of W until M came into his life. You even hear him at one point admitting how W is smarter than he is. As a child he teased William about having to behave since he was the one meant to be king - it was always implied that Harry was glad that this was NOT the case for him.

All the images depict a happy and engaged man - not one who was feeling 'trapped'.
Then we see the 'after MM' images and it is a completely different story with a detached and/or sullen man who NOW looks trapped and very unhappy.

If anyone else has the chance to view this video please let me know what you think of it. It is not very long and is really worth the effort. Here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxOOptS3tf8

Also in my blog I have put a photo of H and M that appears to me to be a moment when the masks dropped revealing the type of relationship they have. One look at this photo tells me that she is in control, she is abusive, and she maintains a superior attitude towards him. He looks like a child being scolded and my heart breaks for him.
You can click my avatar to reach my blog and the photo which was taken at Royal Ascot in (I believe) 2018.
Any thoughts on this photo?
AnT said…
@Magatha
@Puds,

The strangest part of the book to me is....a new first-time mother dictating what the father will experience.

Why wasn't this told from her perspective as a new mother experiencing motherhood on the bench with her first child??? I mean, what?

To me that screamed: "I have no idea what mothers feel, as I am not one, so I will splooge up some mess about fathers and sons to sell,
ALSO without even thinking that my experience with fathers is pretty terrible at the moment, and my experience of men having sons
is zero because I tried to talk my dad into disowning his before my royal wedding. And I will make someone publish it!"

I know she is psychotic (allegedly!). I am sure she would lick camels if it produced money.

But, to display "I know nothing about being a mother, just about watching my friends' husbands with their kids" and publish it in front of the world and think it's fine, is mind-blowing.

So that, plus "Lilibet" ......and whew. Are they trying to make everyone open Pandora's box?

Are they cramming in as much scamming as they can before the paddy wagon rolls up?

JennS said…
@AnT
I have to go look at the Longo tweets again - I didn't realize that angry Harry wandering onto HotRob's old estate happened on the 5th - the day after the birth. That is indeed weird.
Henrietta said…
JennS said...

Also in my blog I have put a photo of H and M that appears to me to be a moment when the masks dropped revealing the type of relationship they have. One look at this photo tells me that she is in control, she is abusive, and she maintains a superior attitude towards him. He looks like a child being scolded and my heart breaks for him...the photo which was taken at Royal Ascot in (I believe) 2018.


Her mask definitely seems to have slipped in the photo. His reaction is what I would call, "tuning out."

IIRC, this was her first Ascot, and when I watched videos of her from this event, I thought she was acting melodramatically (e.g., coming down the steps with him very slowly while looking straight into the camera). When you've really arrived, you don't need to do any of that because...you've already arrived!

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Henrietta said…
Celt News's recent video on the baby's name ("Harry Sneaks Queen's Beloved Nick-Name") says that Harry's wife and her mother have had a fight in which MM yelled at her mother in front of staff and that Doria has stopped visiting Mudslide Manor.
@AnT,

Thank you so much for buying some domain names! If this takes off, I'm hoping that anybody who has a couple of dollars/pounds to spare will buy a domain name. We can help the Queen to retain her lovely pet name.

Let me know what names you chose.

NeutralObserver said…
@JennS, hope you're well & recovering from any health issues you've had!

@AnT, I hate to disparage any child, & have found 'Archie' appealing in some of his various iterations. I suppose I just dislike seeing children used as pawns. In any case, 'Archie' doesn't seem like the toddler who can sell a million diapers. I don't get the Harkle branding. They've morphed into whiney downers. How does that sell anything, ideas or products? Self pity is always unattractive, but especially in people as privileged as these two. I don't think many people are interested in the latest alleged addition to the Harkle menage. Royalists are outraged at their co-opting HM's nickname, & many of us Nutties want to know if there was a surrogate, but otherwise, the world has yawned.
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brown-eyed said…
The Bench and Beach Towels with Harkle photos.

So tacky. I went to Amazon (US) to see if Harry’s wife’s book was selling. The search took me first to camping equipment and then to beach stuff. Ladies, she is merching the photo of her, Harry and a child on a BEACH TOWEL. Actually they are at least 5 choices: the one I just described; one that is a collage of her since marriage; one with collage of Sultry PR photos pre Harry: one to elect her in 2024; one head shot in blue hat and coat. Go to Amazon and search for “the beach meghan markle”. I can’t believe it. At least some of those photos are copyrighted, so than means she is making $$$ from them, right? The beach towels sell for about $24 each. Totally inappropriate.

Could not find the print book but did find a free Audible Version if you subscribe to audible. 5 min or so long. .

May I have a glass of expensive Scotch, please?
AnT said…
@JennS

Whew....the "Weird Relationship" photo on your blog! It made me think these words: "Natasha tells Boris what the Kremlin expects".

The video --- what I saw, I think, was a visual history of a man, once free, given an unbearable education in an awful new club.
@Sylvia,

Great name! Lillibetscollection.com is perfect! Or even thelilibetcollection.com.
@brown-eyed,

Good lord, Amazon really is selling 6's wife's beach towels. Now I've seen everything. I'm just sitting here shaking my head. A beach towel with your image plastered all over it. How regal!

KCM1212 said…
I will apologize in advance. I don't have time to catch up with all the comments, you all are on FIRE today and thank you for the collective insights.

I haven't seen this article mentioned yet, so forgive me if I am duplicating. But I remembered reading something regarding Scientology and MM a while ago.

https://meaww.com/meghan-markle-church-scientology-tom-cruise-john-travolta-hollywood-actors-thomas-markle-links


Part One
Was Meghan Markle drawn to Scientology? Her father says he warned her after seeing her outside church in LA
As the future actress grew older, her ambitions may have led her to stumble upon a new faith altogether—a secretive church especially popular among some elite circles in Hollywood

By Kunal Dey
Updated On : 03:14 PST, Jan 22, 2020

Was Meghan Markle drawn to Scientology? Her father says he warned her after seeing her outside church in LA

A few months ahead of her nuptials to Prince Harry, Meghan Markle was baptized into the Church of England.

The Duchess of Sussex attended a Catholic school when she was young. However, just like her mother Doria Ragland, Meghan was also a protestant.

But as the future actress grew older, her ambitions may have led her to stumble upon a new faith altogether—a secretive church especially popular among some elite circles in Hollywood.

As we reported yesterday, rumors are rife that Meghan is planning a big Hollywood comeback after she and Prince Harry got the official nod from the Queen to exit the royal family and move to Canada. According to speculation, Meghan has already contacted Tinseltown veteran Tom Cruise to help her out. The royal couple was also recently seen getting cozy with Jon Favreau, Director of the 'Lion King' while attending the premiere of the same as rumors flew they were asking for 'voiceover work' for themselves.

Among other things, Cruise has built quite a reputation as the poster boy of the Church of Scientology. Several reports have claimed he is “considered a deity" among Scientologists.

According to sources, Tom is expected to exploit his superstar status as well as connections with the church to help Meghan and Harry out in this matter. Such an arrangement is due to suppress any negative press coverage and instead raise the couple's profile to the upper echelons of Hollywood.

Tom knows from his years of experience what it's like to be under constant scrutiny by the media as well as the backlash that comes with it. This would help him facilitate Meghan and Harry's smooth transition from royal life to becoming Hollywood A-listers.

However, this is not the first time Meghan has been linked to Scientologists.
KCM1212 said…
Part Two


In July 2018, the Duchess of Sussex’s father, Thomas Markle Sr., revealed he actually had to warn his daughter about the Church of Scientology. The 74-year-old explained in a detailed interview with The Sun how he caught a young Meghan hanging about outside a Scientology church in Los Angeles, according to a report by Yahoo News.

At the time, Thomas Sr. warned his daughter she would be in "big trouble" if she ever returned to the neighborhood.

Nonetheless, there has been no indication that the future Duchess was ever considering joining the church's ranks.


General view of the Church of Scientology community center in the neighborhood of South Los Angeles (Getty Images)


In August 2018, Meghan's father spoke to The Sun once again. This time, he described the royal family as being "cult-like." “They are either like Scientologists or the Stepford family,” the retired television lighting director said in the interview.

“If they hear anybody say anything they just lock the doors. They need to speak up!” he added, presumably referencing an earlier claim he made that the royal family had been “in silence mode” since he began giving interviews to media outlets.

“They are cult-like — like Scientology — because they are secretive,” he remarked. “They close the door, pull the shades down and put their fingers in their ears so they don’t have to hear."

“Maybe they have a secret handshake too! You cannot ask a question of them — as they won’t answer,” Thomas added at the time.

Having said that, the Church of Scientology has often invited controversy for its practices and secretive methods. However, it has always denied claims that it is a cult and that it manipulates its members.

Founded by L Ron Hubbard, the religion has since amassed a huge celebrity following—including Hollywood megastars such as Tom Cruise and John Travolta.
KCM1212 said…
Holy smokes, Browneyed Girl!!

Those beach towels are the tackiest thing ever!

She even has one of the hugely preggers M under tge tree of life with a faceless H and A

"we will always uphold the values of the Queen"

Lies. All lies.
KCM1212 said…
Oops...a link

https://www.amazon.com/Oversized-Absorbent-Skin-Friendly-Microfiber-Sand-Free/dp/B0946M4QVK/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=the+beach+meghan+markle&qid=1623207386&sr=8-3
AnT said…
@brown-eyed,
The towels are Chinese drop-ship under various sketchy storefronts all with Chinese country codes (if you look in the back way on the Amazon site)...I doubt Megs will see a dime.

@NeutralObserver,
I'm not really talking about cherubs selling diapers per se. I am thinking of general quirky tv sitcom kids, kids in fun 'real people' ads, the quirky smart-mouth, or funny kid in a comedy movie family. Even stores like the GAP in the US or NEXT in the UK, also IKEA, are going more "real" in their choice of kid models.

Other than that, Here is the 2020 Gerber baby of the year: Baby Magnolia, and she is adorable! Sorry, Megs. The perfect baby with a "flower" name has already been chosen. You're late again.

https://redtri.com/gerber-baby-2020-spokesbaby/

AnT said…
@KCM1212,

You are my new hero and brilliant for finding this article about
Megs' possible Scientology connection, with a memory from
her father!! Thanks for posting!! Great work!!!

BY THE WAY -- THOMAS MARKLE SPEAKS OUT ON 60 MINUTES AUSTRALIA THIS SUNDAY EVENING!!!! in the trailer, he seems to be less than happy and suggests he has some juice to spill. As in, you ain't heard nothing yet" juice. I posted about this twice earlier today but I don't think anyone noticed. Will he talk about CoS, or her marriages? Or???


THIS PART OF THE ARTICLE YOU POSTED
SAYS IT ALL TO ME.
THE MEGS WE KNOW MAY HAVE
BEEN PULLED AWAY, BUT I CAN
IMAGINE SHE WENT RIGHT BACK.....

July 2018, the Duchess of Sussex’s father, Thomas Markle Sr., revealed he actually had to warn his daughter about the Church of Scientology. The 74-year-old explained in a detailed interview with The Sun how he caught a young Meghan hanging about outside a Scientology church in Los Angeles, according to a report by Yahoo News. At the time, Thomas Sr. warned his daughter she would be in "big trouble" if she ever returned to the neighborhood.
lucy said…
I was gone all day, scrollibg
comments from bottom up. Do you all see pictures yet? Not seeing discussion
https://libbybear.tumblr.com/

Sorry if repeat but exciting. Catch up soon
AnT said…
@KCM1212,

Re the towels -- they are Chinese drop ship from sketchy storefronts w China country codes. Megs won't see a dime. These pirate industries are all over Amazon and Amazon seems to allow them to do as they please. Attorneys like my husband get asked to pursue
them.
Midge said…
Amazon has not only beach towels, but Harry and Meghan socks, T-shirts, and tapestry wall murals............in case anyone wants a 60" by 51" picture of Meghan to hang on their wall!
AnT said…
@lucy

I am catching up tonight too and just saw your "June 9, 6:15 AM" post ---

Do you all see pictures yet? Not seeing discussion
https://libbybear.tumblr.com/


So I looked -- I LOVE that this blogger put it all together this way, sussing out that the same photog shot the images likely on the same day. Her arguments make sense. The too-big bumps and crazy conception timeline already told me that logically, this pregnancy was also a lie. But -- I like the way this poster puts forth her argument. I think even the diehards will have to do a double take at this.

Thank you for finding it and sharing the link here. What do you think of it?
SwampWoman said…
I think that Yak Hair is deliberately trying to ratchet up stress on QE2. Stress is well-known to be bad for one's health and people that have lost a long-term spouse are susceptible to becoming ill and dying shortly thereafter. My opinion is that she is trying to make QE2 so ill that she cannot continue as monarch or, heaven forbid, die.
AnT said…
@MIdge,

I am not sure I can even imagine the mind of someone who would want a giant Megsy tapestry wall hanging! Socks! These pirate shops must think the Harkles are going to make them some money --- OH!!!!!! You know, there is a huge LA rumor that she is trying to make a deal to make movies and ads in CHINA -- so maybe this rumor started these little factory shops churning out this junk.
Judging by the seller codes, she won't make any money from this. They are hidden pirate shops in China.
AnT said…
@SwampWoman,

I fully agree with your speculation about the stress war Megs is pitching at the Queen. I think she hopes to go two-for-two in 2021. I think she is that sick.

My bad feelings about the new baby are not unrelated. I think Megs is seeking drama, not motherhood. I am thinking this may turn out to be the ugliest scam yet -- and one designed to upset the Queen again.

The Queen lost her husband, two very close friends/confiddantes, and even the puppy Philip gave her in the space of a few months this year. She has had to cope with the blistering lava flow from the Oprah interviews. I can well imagine sick Megs, with her "grid", hoping she can push harder and check off one more box.

I'm telling you -- I have an eerie feeling from all this and I don't like it. Prayers for our queen, the baby, the RF.
lucy said…
I was just coming back to poise same question lol I was rushing and left post rude. I feel it's a win. And it may prove
miscarriage was a lie too. Jenn around?

I have no idea who this tumblr is either. So random how came across. Let me get situated be back. What's everyone think?



lucy said…
Wally hasit!! I am going to watch now. That picture lol


https://youtu.be/8qKgQY3mtKU
DesignDoctor said…
@lucy

Brilliant how the author put the pics together on Tumblr. Looks like she is correct.
AnT said…
@lucy,

I concur with you and @DesignDoctor. This photo evidence is brilliant. Whoever this blogger is, she’s put it together and nailed it, I think.

Off to Yankee Wally....
lucy said…
Link to OP our Mvp!

Wow. I hope Angela Levin gets it, her and wally go back and forth. How wild if in fact true and discovered because H didn't change shirt. Is it that gray one? Lol.

https://www.tumblr.com/blog/view/meghantheduchyofpitstains

Fifi LaRue said…
Re: "Church" of Scientology: They will want/demand all of Harry's money. All of it. To get him "Clear."

They never let anyone go who has $$$$$. Never.

I really hope that's not happening for Hazbeen. The Wife, on her own, won't be able to afford their "clearing" charges. It is an endless drain on one's money.

I personally knew a very nice person who considered herself spiritual, and gave all her money to the "church." Very sad indeed. She denied herself a lot of things to enrich their pockets.
Anonymous said…
From The Telegraph:

The Prince of Wales and the Duke of Sussex are in “regular contact”, sources have revealed, amid signs that newborn Lilibet Diana might already have helped to heal the family rift.

Prince Charles, 72, on Tuesday described his delight at becoming a grandfather for the fifth time, which he said was “such happy news.”

It is understood that he has been speaking to his younger son frequently and that their relationship has turned a corner following the raft of shocking claims Prince Harry, 36, has made in recent months.

The Royal family is keen to bring the Duke and Duchess of Sussex back into the fold.

Dear God. Why??
lucy said…
The excerpts of book LOL! Can't have it onscreen same time I type but 'lone
comes to mind and I literally laughed out loud. It is soooo bad. She really does not give a sh*t. Could almost run to bookstore to get feel of it in its entirety, if they still made those, just kidding. Maybe.

What does she do all day? All the time in the world and this? I cannot believe how foolish it reads. How embarrassing. Another awesome opportunity shot to hell. Lol now I am thinking to 4.99 audiobook option. Really? Stuff of nightmares

@JennS video is depressing. He needs real help. Someone needs to go pick him up. If genders were reversed public would rage and situation treated with urgency. It not right.

@Wbbm deeply disturbing practices going on within Scientology. Psychological warfare more like it. Being held underground in trailers as punishment. Targeting of uninvolved family members on outside as punishment for members "misdeeds" . No smiling or jokes allowed. Rushing people on streets threatening to kill their babies. It is a wonder how one is able to endure the incessant torment ,walk out and mingle with society. Interesting how Ortega site had Truman Show reference ๐Ÿค”

Edit: I sure do ramble
SwampWoman said…
@AnT, I think about QE2's reaction as a loving grandmother seeing her grandson turn into shambling shell of his former self and appearing as a giant buffoon on television. There is no recovering from that for him which she knows. More stress.

I would fear for any helpless infant left in her/their grasp. I certainly hope that there isn't one.
SwampWoman said…
lucy, I have to say that whenever I see a staged photo of them, I just roll my eyes and move on. I can't really "look" at it because I get such an overwhelming sense of "she ain't right" that I become very uncomfortable. Looking at the comparison pics, though, it *looks* as if they were taken the same day.

I wonder idly whether the hidden face of Harry in the second pic is because it isn't Harry.
SwampWoman said…
How sad my life would have to be for me to purchase beach towels with Yak Hair's smirking face! I can see picking up towels with her likeness for 50 cents at the thrift store to give to animal shelters for stray dogs to sleep on. (They would probably yelp and cower in the corner instead, squirting the pee of fear.)
SwampWoman said…
@ lucy @Wbbm deeply disturbing practices going on within Scientology. Psychological warfare more like it. Being held underground in trailers as punishment. Targeting of uninvolved family members on outside as punishment for members "misdeeds" . No smiling or jokes allowed. Rushing people on streets threatening to kill their babies. It is a wonder how one is able to endure the incessant torment ,walk out and mingle with society. Interesting how Ortega site had Truman Show reference

I'm not really sure why people that rush people threatening to kill their babies aren't beaten down in the streets.
@swampwoman,

I'm still concerned about the big red lump on Archie's left cheek in the photos of 6's wife taking Archie to "school."

We've already seen the bruises on H's hand and his black eye injury.

Photo of Archie's red bump on cheek:

https://pagesix.com/2021/04/22/meghan-markle-archie-seen-for-first-time-since-harrys-us-return/

Photos of Harry with a deeply bruised hand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFmBySECGvM

I can't get a good photo of Harry's black eye.

Some people say that the hand bruising looks like-yikes- bite marks!

JennS said…
@Lucy said
@JennS video is depressing. He needs real help. Someone needs to go pick him up. If genders were reversed public would rage and situation treated with urgency. It not right.
.....................

@Lucy
I absolutely agree about the gender reversal point. Because it's a woman controlling and abusing a man people are not taking it seriously or don't believe it. If you look at the picture I posted on my blog you can see her in what looks like a moment of bullying - MM looks like she's berating Harry and he looks crestfallen, embarrassed and like he is being made to feel stupid...and this was early in their marriage.

I love the tea you found regarding the 2 pregnancy photos Markle submitted. I can't believe no one noticed before now that Harry's outfits look the same! I have both those pics saved and never noticed this. Of course this is why she uses black and white for some of her pics - so she can try to hide odd details. If the two photos had been in color she wouldn't be able to get away with this at all.
One thing I notice is Markle's hair - she has what looks like dreadlocks in the first photo and a long yak fringe in the second. She must have changed wigs as well as dresses!!!

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NeutralObserver said...
@JennS, hope you're well & recovering from any health issues you've had!
...................

Thanks for your kind words NeutObserver. I am scheduled for surgery this Friday and hope it will clear up some problems. I should be staying away from the stress of the Harkles but couldn't resist posting about the new baby! Doing some research on the latest - which I enjoy doing, took my mind off my medical situation for a couple of days but it's starting to upset me again. I'm particularly troubled by an idea I can't shake - that the RF is actually going to back the Harkles after all. Despite everything that happened and all the bombs they launched at the castle walls I think the RF is afraid that H will hurt himself and/or they are covering up for their own involvement in some of the scams. I'm concerned they are never going to do anything further to defang them. After spending 3 years following this story and defending the Queen and the monarchy I find this so very disappointing.
lucy said…
@swampwoman writes:
I'm not really sure why people that rush people threatening to kill their babies aren't beaten down in the streets.

Maybe so they don't get thrown into that underground pit! There is some crazy sh** on that site. I had to stop reading. That is no church. Travesty they are tax exempt, should be revoked.

I just looked at Harry pic beneath tree. Sounds crazy but it honestly does not look like him to me.his nose looks too fat. Maybe it is angle. Going to see if I can find original on Skippys site. Totally her department. LOL @ "that ain't right " I do same on here! In daily life too but more so under my breath
AnT said…

Some amazing info on Yankee Wally including the story told by a university friend of Megs....
JennS said…
lucy said...
I was just coming back to poise same question lol I was rushing and left post rude. I feel it's a win. Jenn around?

..............
This is the last night I can come here for a while....are you looking for a pic?
Another thing I notice about the 2 B&W photos is the landscape growth looks about the same which supports the idea that they were taken the same day. They were shot at a slightly different angle...
@KMC1212,

Thanks for the Scientology info. It's possible that 6's wife is/was going after Tom Cruise, and not Scientology specifically. Why have only one mansion, when you could have a dozen if you married Tom Cruise?

Add in the power of Scientology, and she'd be the queen of Scientology around the world. With her pushy personality, though, she'd end up like Shelly Miscavige.

Where's Shelly?


In the 2 links I posted re Scientology, it was the one about them pressuring victims by bringing up childhood trauma & encouraging suicide that sent chill down my spine.

In case you missed it, here are the links again:

https://scientologymoneyproject.com/2015/02/16/what-the-church-of-scientology-doesnt-want-the-public-to-know-part-1/

https://tonyortega.org/2020/09/21/scientology-black-ops-episode-6-dirty-tricks-are-a-sacrament-in-this-church/

It's in the Tony Ortega one.
@Jenn,

Take good care of yourself, and come back to us as soon as you can. You've done remarkable work on here and on your blog. Same for all of the Nutties who are having health issues right now, WBBM and Miggy. I hope I'm not missing anybody.
******************************
I took a look at Wally's video, and I think they're onto something there with the photos taken on the same day.







Maisie said…
@ Jocelynn’s B
Re: Bruises

Yes! Thank you for bringing it up. You and several others have mentioned the dangerous position this child is in living with disturbed parents. Those photos are haunting. . Hopefully Archie is not left alone with her.
Our youngest, who was quite a handful, went in for a check up at about 24 months. The Dr grabbed Will’s hands, looked at me and asked what was going on? He was looking my sons palms which were deep purple. It took half a second to remember that I had fed him frozen blueberries that morning and his palms were stained. The shock in the Dr’s eyes and then the calm when I explained the cause is still vivid today, 19 years later.
This lunacy has got to stop.
Knowing 6's wife's personality as we do, what do you think she would have done if her father told her, when she was a child, to stay away from the Scientology Center in LA?

My guess is that as soon as she could, she'd go right back to the Scientology Center.
lucy said…
Latest scandal is not on skippys site she will wake up to it ๐Ÿ˜†
I haven't been over there in long time. Was hoping to find ears circled with measurements or something but found this. The mention of feet is odd. Remember him on beach pic showing his foot to security guy or photographer, what's with feet? I am on phone . Difficult to see. I am going to look for other date
https://skippyv20.tumblr.com/post/643144352568377344/who-is-this-frankenstein-hi-skippy-kindly-zoom

Here is this too, ass****

https://skippyv20.tumblr.com/post/643153095112753152/wellwellwellwhen-you-have-always

Upcoming TTC and G7 . Queen doesn't need this. Interesting too AofC isn't around. This has been out since March. Hmm. .Do you think they already knew? Suppose not important right now.

I must say celtic cross got this. She said it was going to be something dumb that would be her downfall not crossing t or dotting i. Dare I say she feels this bbaby was stillbirth. Morbid I know.
Going to look for March pic
Maisie said…
Not sure if it has been mentioned before...

L. Ron Hubbard, Sci-Fi author and founder of Scientology, called his ‘philosophy’ Dianetics when first concocted in the 1950’s.

How tempted would she be to consider it a ‘sign’?
Were any other Nutties shown the childbirth film `To Janet a Son'? (1962) when they were at school?

The usual wording for the announcement in this instance would have been `To Janet a son, a brother for Sally'.

https://wellcomecollection.org/works/nep4hyca


BTW It's a real `period' piece... all roses and violins, idealised, but perhaps not for the squeamish.

Janet has a unconvincing accent for a patient at Plaistow Hospital! it's that `frayf'ly posh' voice of films of the time - the hospital's about 1 mile north of the London Docks - a pretty rough area at that time!)
JennS said…
Scientologists believe psychiatry is evil!
Part 1

I really don't think Scientologists would be interested in the Harkles due to their investment in psychological issues. I wrote about this in an earlier post which hasn't been acknowledged at all...I hope no one thinks I'm trying to argue. I'm merely trying to help by saving folks from wasting their time looking into something that I don't believe is possible.

Here is some additional info...

⭐Some history w/ nutcase Hubbard and psychiatry:
In 1955, Hubbard wrote that "nearly all the backlash in society against Dianetics and Scientology has a common source — the psychiatrist-psychologist-psychoanalyst clique". In a letter addressed to the FBI dated July 11, Hubbard reports having been the victim of an "attack made by psychiatrists using evidently Communist connected personnel"๐Ÿคฃ

⭐In 1966 Hubbard declared all-out war on psychiatry, telling Scientologists that "We want at least one bad mark on every psychiatrist in England, a murder, an assault, or a rape or more than one." He committed the Church of Scientology to the goal of eradicating psychiatry in 1969, announcing that "Our war has been forced to become 'To take over absolutely the field of mental healing on this planet in all forms.'๐Ÿคช

⭐A 1969 book, Believe What You Like, described an attempt by Scientologists to secretly infiltrate the National Association of Mental Health in Britain and turn official policy against mental health treatment. Though they were expelled from the organization after their identity and mission were revealed, the Church of Scientology then filed a number of suits against the NAMH.๐Ÿ˜ฒ

⭐Scientology today demands their members refuse any psychological treatment...
Following legal actions involving the Church of Scientology's relationship with its members, it has become standard practice within the group for members to sign lengthy legal contracts and waivers before engaging in Scientology services. In 2003, a series of media reports examined the legal contracts required by Scientology, which require that, among other things, Scientology followers deny any and all psychiatric care that their doctors may prescribe to them.๐Ÿ˜ฑ
JennS said…
Scientologists believe psychiatry is evil!
Part 2

⭐Here is what members must sign:

I do not believe in or subscribe to psychiatric labels for individuals. It is my strongly held religious belief that all mental problems are spiritual in nature and that there is no such thing as a mentally incompetent person — only those suffering from spiritual upset of one kind or another dramatized by an individual. I reject all psychiatric labels and intend for this Contract to clearly memorialize my desire to be helped exclusively through religious, spiritual means and not through any form of psychiatric treatment, specifically including involuntary commitment based on so-called lack of competence. Under no circumstances, at any time, do I wish to be denied my right to care from members of my religion to the exclusion of psychiatric care or psychiatric directed care, regardless of what any psychiatrist, medical person, designated member of the state or family member may assert supposedly on my behalf.

⭐More on Tom Cruise and his attacks on Psychology...
In January 2004, Cruise made the controversial statement "I think psychiatry should be outlawed."
Further controversy erupted in 2005 after he openly criticized actress Brooke Shields for using the drug Paxil (paroxetine), an anti-depressant to which Shields attributes her recovery from postpartum depression after the birth of her first daughter in 2003. Cruise asserted that there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance and that psychiatry is a form of pseudoscience. Shields responded that Cruise "should stick to saving the world from aliens and let women who are experiencing postpartum depression decide what treatment options are best for them".๐Ÿคฃ

Scientology is well known for its opposition to mainstream psychiatry and the psychoactive drugs which are routinely prescribed for treatment. It was reported that Cruise's anti-psychiatry actions led to a rift with director Steven Spielberg. Spielberg had reportedly mentioned in Cruise's presence the name of a doctor friend who prescribed psychiatric medication. Shortly thereafter, the doctor's office was picketed by Scientologists, reportedly angering Spielberg.๐Ÿ˜ 
Trooping the Colour -

At Ease!

No need to worry about this folks! It's going to be the same as last year, a slimmed-down version in Windsor Castle.

AnT -

I haven't found the tea from from the person from NW-ern Univ. on Yankee Wally yet - can you give more of a clue please?
lucy said…
Grrr I give up for night. All this time Ive been scrolling to get to early March , got to 15th and sent me back. Was then I realized I had been scrolling 20 minutes for 007 Harry. Its a bit much but it really doesn't look like him. Remember Santa Harry? (lol sounds crazy) but he looked different too . How about Meg's olive cake she shipped cross country, just saw that again ๐Ÿ˜’

Hi Jenn. I was just curious your opinion on pictures. If you feel real deal, you have eye for detail. I was looking for March pic on skippys site to read thoughts at time as she is only one I know od who thinks 2 Harrys

Best wishes on speedy recovery!
Ava C said…
@Elsbeth1847 - the JFK Jr book is 'The Life of John F. Kennedy Jr.: America's Reluctant Prince' by Steven M Gillon. It was a bestseller, very well written and he knew JFK Jr.

@Blonde Gator - many thanks for the info about the JFK Jr Lost Tapes - I didn't know about that.

About that blogger and those artful pregnancy photos, it makes you want to plaster it on the front of every newspaper and every online news site in the UK and US. I know H is notorious for his extremely limited wardrobe but really. The height of his rolled up sleeve etc. is damning.

I wonder how many ordinary members of the public just living their lives have registered doubt because of the speed of the conception after the supposed miscarriage given M's age. Women will, if they are nudged to remember the timing of the miscarriage story. It's a bad mistake and very typical of M.

She may have been forced into that timetable though, because she needed to be reasonably advanced in pregnancy to deflect comeback after Oprah. The scale of the criticism and controversy genuinely seems to have surprised her, but she did need to hobble the BRF as much as possible, by making herself a poor defenceless 'heavily pregnant' (aaaagghhh!) woman against a cold, unfeeling, palace machine.

Also, of course, she is fundamentally a coward and needed a reason to keep away from the UK if Prince Philip did die while they were in the eye of the storm because of Oprah and for the Diana statue ceremony.

Beaming in on a screen from California would be catnip to her. A carefully selected audience at Kensington Palace so no booing risk. No need to encounter anyone who would certainly boo while travelling to KP. She could just smile benignly down on them from a vast screen, either 'heavily pregnant' (aaaagghhh again!) or in earth mother mode with a newborn. She'd love it. Thank goodness William would ride to the rescue here and put a stop to her nonsense for once. At least, I hope he does. She must have nothing to do with that ceremony. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing.

One little additional thought ... we already know H is very protective and easily triggered by the thought of a child of his being put in the media spotlight. While of course M is the opposite, thinking of her grinning above what looked like a dangling Archie on that nature trail when H was thousands of miles away. Anyway, despite H's flawed personality, it's extremely likely he will be even more actively protective with a daughter than a son. So the stage is set for (even?) more conflict with his wife than before. Here I'm assuming the child is biologically his. Must be as the DNA implications are too massive even for them if the child is not.

That furious wandering H story is very interesting, given the timing there.
Maneki Neko said…

Just had a quick look and didn't see anything posted on this:

Harry and Meghan ‘NEVER asked' the Queen about naming their daughter Lilibet: Palace sources say monarch was not consulted by couple about using her childhood nickname before birth

This is getting worse and worse. Basic courtesy would have been to talk to the Queen first and ask permission. Absolutely unbelievable! Actually, quite believable coming from that despicable pair.

Will have a look now at the article & the comments...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9667207/Harry-Meghan-NEVER-asked-Queen-naming-daughter-Lilibet-source-says.html

JennS said…
Blonde Gator said...
@ Ava C & Jenn S
There was a documentary a few years ago done by TLC ~ called "The Lost Tapes" ~ about the JFK Jr/Carolyn Bissette wedding ~ it was so sad yet very charming ~

Here is a YT bit they ran as a trailer and the title showed up on Amazon when I searched on the title
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voHA6DB2Uro

The wedding was done for the sake of real privacy ~ not the HM$ faux privacy for merching!
.................

@Blonde Gator
Thanks so much for this info - I didn't know they did this documentary. I'm surprised that his friend made the tapes public. I'm not sure how I feel about that as I distinctly remember how hard they worked to keep it secret from the paps and how successful they were in doing so! And from this clip we learn how much the guests went through to get to the island location and to keep the story out of the press. John wanted just that one photo released...what do you think of those tapes being made public? I have always been of the opinion that they would probably still be with us if it wasn't for the intrusion of the press. I remember my Mom telling me about how Carolyn hated flying commercial due to all the attention they got - people would come up to her and actually try to touch her.
lucy said…
"Where's Shelly?"

While back I watched psychic who said she was taken and stored in underground freezer. Like cryonic thing. Then when I was reading link there was mention of scientology guy last name Freeezer (or close) it spooked me and made me think that is who made her disappear and that she wasn't being stored in block of ice as he said. (Lol I swear I am not high) there is story on site of her being seen tossed in backseat of car by mr freeze himself even, can't recall. . Now that I think of it isnt Hubbard housed in cryonic chamber? Either way it has been 10 years now :(

JennS said…
Thanks Lucy๐Ÿ˜ - if I have time I'll put the two pics side by side on my blog and leave them there for a couple of days.

Thanks for the good wishes @Jocelyns Bellinis!๐Ÿ˜
I'm wondering if M is applying the methods of Scientology without actually being one?

We have long suspected that she took him off conventional medication.

We know damn' all about the `therapist' he's been seeing; it could easily be Doria, except rumour has it she's walked out.

Tapping therapy isn't exactly mainstream medicine, based, I understand, on ancient Chinese practice, related to acupuncture. Just because it's Chinese and old doesn't necessarily mean it works.

Some would call it `complementary' medicine, others `alternative', so it might pass muster with Ron Hubbard's followers.

One of my sixth-formers (a very bright lad) specialised in psychiatry after he becoming medically qualified. He subsequently emigrated to California and practised there - may have retired by now. Were H seeing his chap, I'd be sure he was in safe hands.

As it is, God knows who's continuing the mind-f*ckery.
Ava C said…
@Maneki Neko - I was just about to post the same item about the Queen being asked about the Lilibet name. It's headlined the same as the DM, on the BBC news site, appearing an hour ago. Excerpt:

Following Lilibet's birth, it was widely presumed that Harry and Meghan had first spoken to the Queen about the choice of name.

There were subsequent stories in the press quoting "friends" of the couple who strongly suggested that Harry had sought permission from his grandmother.

The Times also reported that it understood the Queen had been informed by Harry about the name.

And a source close to the Sussexes also told the BBC that Harry had spoken to the Queen before the birth - claims the Palace has since disputed.


I'm glad the Palace isn't entirely turning the other cheek here. Both cheeks must be scarlet by now.

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