There's a lot to discuss about the World of the Sussexes. We have the new chapters in Lacey's book, ANL getting approval to appeal the Letters Case, Diana's Statue Unveiling, and more. Let's discuss...
Recently there was (yet another) post somewhere out in the world about how they will soon divorce. And my first thought was: Haven't I heard this before? which moved quickly to: how many times have I heard this (through the years)? There were a number of questions raised which ... I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. One of the points which has been raised is that KC would somehow be shelling out beaucoup money to get her to go "away". That he has all this money stashed away and can pull it out at a moment's notice. But does he? He inherited a lot of "stuff" from his mother but ... isn't it a lot of tangible stuff like properties? and with that staff to maintain it and insurance. Inside said properties is art, antique furniture and other "old stuff" which may be valuable" but ... that kind of thing is subject to the whims and bank accounts of the rarified people who may be interested in it (which is not most of us in terms of bei
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wow
You beat me!
I concur. It should be a family affair.
Let's hope this thread doesn't devolve off topic again.
I do, however, agree with you that perhaps with consideration of how high the feelings might be running, turning it into a private event would be really wise. Sigh but would that be how Diana would have behaved? There is a part of me which thinks not.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9718301/Lifetime-releases-trailer-Megxit-movie-Harry-Meghan.html
Diana would have wanted the press there for the publicity. At the end, I think her ego fed off the headlines and attention.
There is just too much going on with the 6s that would cause them to take advantage of the situation and stir up more controversy. You know 6w wants to make it all about her to strengthen the “Royal’ connection. She will have to be “present” one way or another. Would not be surprised to see a video:
... and @Hikari - As long as she's got breath in her body and can grift money from somewhere, she won't stop. Physical confrontations are unlikely but she will make it her mission in life to ruin the reputations and peace of mind of anyone she views as thwarting her.
Not once has M had to face a rational, fully prepared, fully capable, forensically accurate interviewer. Not once. We are all on the edge of our seats - if we can bear to watch her at all - yelling all the perfectly obvious questions and refutations and yet no one sitting with that bloody woman utters a peep against her. No one holds her to account. I could see in a recent Spectator video that Andrew Neil is busting a gut to interview her. If only he could.
No. The only way we can bring M face to face with her endless falsehoods and malicious twisting and conflating stories is to put her in an actual court. Where she has to engage with the truth. Be confronted by it. Finally. No messing around. No witless, unprofessional travesties like Oprah. This saga just has to end up in a proper courtroom. Somehow.
The Queen is playing a dangerous game, still making gestures of reconciliation like having the Sussex engagement photo in her audience room. Saying they are still loved and valued. We the British people will get fed up with springing to her defence when she fails to help herself. Many will want to wash their hands of the entire Royal Family. It's already happening. If it wasn't for William I'd be doing that myself. It feels as if we're on a dangerous marsh, with bogs on all sides. William is the firm ground within sight but we have to cross the rickety bridge called Prince Charles to get to that safety.
Brilliant. I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Comment from LSAer: "Isn't this like spitting in his grandmother's face and telling her the titles she gave him aren't good enough? And I'm sure the good people of Dumbarton will be thrilled when they hear what this goofball thinks of their town."
And now, a new Daily Mail headline:
Prince Charles DIDN'T axe Prince Harry's cash: Duke of Sussex said he was 'cut off' financially after leaving royal life... but Prince of Wales spent 'substantial sum' on his son, accounts show
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9719073/Prince-Charles-DIDNT-axe-Prince-Harrys-cash-accounts-show.html
Remember one of PC's friends commented after H's claims about being cut off (a millionnaire in his 30s), that the bank statements suggested otherwise.
In that context, including the pics makes sense. Give the 6’s a carrot…
Unfortunately, I firmly believe that 6w will only respect and listen to the entity wielding the big stick.
Anyway, I am dismayed to hear of the picture being displayed as well.
So he might blame and say he hates the Press, but we see him engaging Press continuously today. Diana most likely died doing what she loved- drinking and being chased by the Press. That’s unfortunate for Harry, and has left him conflicted.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. The BRF and Her Maj need professional help in dealing with the type of malicious narc I who inserted herself into the family. As another poster said, she will never stop.
The problem is people who have not dealt with a narc long term have no idea of their true nature. So much of narc bad behavior occurs behind closed doors unseen by people who could not imagine behaving in such a destructive, malevolent manner .
On the other hand, it could be perfectly correct before the cameras yet H could still bleat about his big brother ambushing him behind the bike sheds later. I'm sure M could supply him with authenticity. A couple of impressive bruises should do it.
I agree that Diana statue needs to be a private family event.
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Blogger Ava C said...
I really don't know what's best for the statue event, other than not having it at all. If the whole thing is private, doesn't that give the Sussexes tremendous scope for their over-active imaginations?
On the other hand, it could be perfectly correct before the cameras yet H could still bleat about his big brother ambushing him behind the bike sheds later. I'm sure M could supply him with authenticity. A couple of impressive bruises should do it.
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@ jessica, I agree. But too much risk H will be booed if it were public, and detract from the reason for the event. Not only that, but also risk of photos, etc. getting used out of context by H and M and SS.
@ AvaC, I had to chuckle at your ambush scenario, but realized that with those two, anything is possible!
Speaking for myself only, I don't have any doubt that Prince William and H will NOT be left alone for a minute, and that there will be wires and video cameras everywhere they go.
Ta Da.
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@Humor Me, not a bad compromise at all!
Wonderful idea!!!!!
And I do not think the bros should be left alone for a minute. Wills is probably dreading the meeting wondering what weird shenanigans 6 and 6w will try to pull off to steal the show.
Blogger Lt. Nyota Uhura said...
The Telegraph: Exclusive: Harry and Meghan rejected Earl of Dumbarton title for Archie for containing word 'dumb'
Dumbledore from Harry Potter was iconic. It too has 'dumb' in the name. Too bad the Sussexs are too selfish and repugnant to gracefully accept such a historic roted title for their son. Seeing how desperate they are to have a title for him, accept whats offered. Perhaps Charles had originally planned to give Archie a prince title upon his ascension, but is now reconsidering the ungrateful and horrid behavior of the Disastrous Duo. M must be itching to start the divorce. If she loses her own title in a divorce and the kids have none, nothing to merch on or connect with the RF. H is a dunce.
Blogger Lt. Nyota Uhura said...
The Telegraph: Exclusive: Harry and Meghan rejected Earl of Dumbarton title for Archie for containing word 'dumb'
Dumbledore from Harry Potter was iconic. It too has 'dumb' in the name. Too bad the Sussexs are too selfish and repugnant to gracefully accept such a historic roted title for their son. Seeing how desperate they are to have a title for him, accept whats offered. Perhaps Charles had originally planned to give Archie a prince title upon his ascension, but is now reconsidering the ungrateful and horrid behavior of the Disastrous Duo. M must be itching to start the divorce. If she loses her own title in a divorce and the kids have none, nothing to merch on or connect with the RF. H is a dunce.
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You're right. I've looked into Dumbarton a bit, and the town (and county) has a long history dating back to the Iron Age. It was the capital of the medieval Kingdom of Strathclyde, which began shortly after the Romans left. It has history with Mary Queen of Scots, too, as she was taken away from there as a child to escape to France, and also the place she headed to when she was a fugitive Queen trying to escape (again).
Seems the gruesome twosome want to tailor-make their own titles ... uh, no, that's not the way it works, you idiots.
H is a dunce. This is the guy who didn't even know his ancestor cousin was Tsar Nicholas II who was executed with his family during the Russian Revolution! And this is the guy who thinks he should be King of Chunga Changa! And repatriate penguins to the Artic Circle!
Sheesh.
She said: “Too late! I am reflecting on this low blow and will issue a full statement in the morning. In the meantime..."
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Do any UK nutties know if this will be sent back to Warby or go to an actual appeals court judge? Will it depend on the reason for the appeal being granted?
I actually admire the RF's restraint. Had it been a funeral in my area where the familial ne'er do well threw shade at his grandfather, the dying patriarch, as well as his grandmother, aunts, uncles, dad, brother, as well as his entire country and then had the temerity to show his face at the funeral, this would not end well. He would have had his butt kicked (literally) out of the door of the funeral parlor or church.
He would NEVER be forgiven. He would never be welcomed back. He would never be trusted again.
I actually think the RF is getting pro help on dealing with a Narc!
Someone made a BRILLIANT suggestion, namely that Diana's soon-to-be unveiled statue might show her sitting on a bench. Which would of course be the EXACT reason why MM chose that theme for her book.
I'd argue that many events the RF do are private in the sense that not just anyone can walk in and they aren't publicized in real time (not talking about the Sussexes days/weeks/months old canned events. Plenty that Will/Kate do doesn't show up in the news until they are already home with their feet up or at least are being driven home.)
If H and/or M want to release something of their own to the press to compete with Will and Harry's "official" statue event nothing can be done about that and nothing ever could. It may be distasteful but I don't think anyone external can and should be able to muzzle them. Muzzling them would fall too close to H&M's desire to muzzle free speech.
The statue event for many seems to have turned into Will's event. And for me, because he's in London & lives at KP, I'd partly agree. He may be able to minimize certain circus aspects but it's not really his event.
The overall event-- engaging in publicity to raise money for a Diana statue belongs to Harry as much as it ever did Will. It's immaterial if Will did more work behind the scenes than Harry (& I'm not sure he did-- the committee probably did the real work-- along with the sculptor! And photos of 12-year old Harry on The Walk may have pulled in as much $$$ as any of Will's sober appeals) But once Will and Harry decided to ask the public to pay for a Diana statue to be put in "their own backyard" (H lived at KP too at the time) it left the realm of a purely private affair. They could have commissioned and paid for a statue on their own-- they could have afforded it. They could have had the statue installed and announced it after the fact. They didn't do that. They wanted the public involved. They wanted the public talking about Diana 20+ years after her death including well past the "summer of Diana" in 2017. They wanted the public to pay for the statue. For their own reasons they wanted a public event. (Often people say as working royals W&H weren't free to act but had follow RF "orders" but I'm sure no one in the RF pushed for more Diana publicity! This is the brothers' doing. The fact things have changed between them doesn't change that.)
Nevertheless...this could be even better. Not only will the bullying investigations be published by that time, but if she also loses that appeal, then it is likely MM would be a no-show for the Jubilee.
If I'm understanding correctly, it's kind of like here in the States where instead of hearing the actual case, the appeals court sends it back to the lower court for retrial due to procedural error?
RIFT DOWN UNDER Meghan Markle bullying claims: Bust-ups with aides during royal tour of Australia to be focus of probe
Ben Griffiths
21:32, 6 Mar 2021Updated: 6:17, 7 Mar 2021
EXPLOSIVE bust-ups between the Duchess of Sussex and her aides during the royal tour of Australia are to be the focus of the Buckingham Palace bullying probe.
The 16-day trip in 2018 is said to have seen a string of clashes between Meghan and staff.
At one point Meghan is claimed to have lost her temper with an assistant and a hot drink was knocked over.
A source said: “The Australia tour is one of the most important in the royal world but there have long been allegations of rows with staff.
“If these assistants come forward it will form the centre of the Palace’s bullying probe. It was a critical time.”
The allegations also include Meghan becoming upset at being given only a wing of the Australian Governor’s mansion to stay in, rather than the entire property.
A month after the tour, the couple’s first as a royal couple, Meghan’s personal assistant Melissa Toubati resigned. She was the second member of her staff to quit within a year.
The couple’s former press secretary Jason Knauf emailed a senior aide to Prince William to complain: “I am very concerned that the Duchess was able to bully two PAs out of the household in the past year.”
Meghan denies allegations of bullying.
@Lt. Uhura: LOL! Remember when Nutty first brought up the titles and attributed them to Prince Phillip's sense of humor? They're finally getting it that Dumbarton is an insult? They are slow aren't they?
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Hahaha *blushing* no, I missed that Nutty/Prince Philip reference -- and I must confess, when I first heard "Dumbarton" I laughed (as an American), and then I sternly told myself, it's a real place, with real people, you idiot! and more or less trained the insultingness out of my head, if that makes sense -- but yeah, you're right, they ARE that slow! Richard Eden tweeted "Dumb and Dumber" LOL
(P.S. Sandman's a-callin', so if I don't answer any further posts tonight, no offense! I'll comb through tomorrow and pick back up!)
You caught me just in time, just about to head off for some sack time :)
Yes, the Appeals Court will first decide what, if anything, was or was not done properly at the original hearing, i.e. was full discovery disclosed? In this case, the answer is no -- apparently M's team failed to hand over requested documents, so that will be one of the first orders of business. The A.C. will give them X amount of time to do so, and if they don't, contempt of court and fines (heavy ones, I gather). The A.C. will decide whether, taken all together, the evidence was satisfactorily judged, or incomplete and thus not satisfactorily judged. If the former, then the appeal is denied. If the latter, then back to the original court it goes, and then goes to trial. ANL is saying that Warby allowed them to use the book "Finding Freedom" as evidence, but then issued a summary judgement before they could argue its relevance. (Something to that effect.)
I do believe that ANL will be able to use the Oprah interview as evidence in their appeal arguments due to M spilling all kinds of intimate private matters on international TV (shooting the privacy claim about the letter down in flames), but more knowledgeable Nutties could probably clarify that one.
Good night -- keep posting, I'll catch up with you tomorrow! :)
That's an excellent point about the timing, even though it's almost in a year's time. (The English courts have always been desperately slow and the pandemic has made things even worse, I imagine.)
Here's the general scheme of things from the horse's mouth:
An extended bank holiday, from Thursday 2nd to Sunday 5th June, will provide an opportunity for communities and people throughout the United Kingdom to come together to celebrate the historic milestone. The four days of celebrations will include public events and community activities, as well as national moments of reflection on The Queen’s 70 years of service.
https://www.royal.uk/platinum-jubilee-central-weekend
ie Unless there are adjournments, lets hope it's all done and dusted by the time the Court doors close on Wednesday June 1st.
A successful Appeal would add extra flavour to the oxen roasted on the village greens of those places which have the historical right so to do (Apologies to vegetarians and vegans)
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I hope the reason for the Dumbarton title doesn't damage the Union but it really is very funny that the H$Ms don't seem to have realised that it was aimed at them.
Slow on the uptake or what?
It would be rather unedifying if the brothers were seen by the nation to be indulging in fisticuffs.
@Swampie
Off Topic would be a great screen name
@offtopicsmatter or
@offtopicandproud 😉
Late Wednesday arvo Singalong 🎤
Apologies to Elkie Brooks
Pearl’s a Singer
Golden Reign
Meg’s the Minger
She stands up when she takes a pee ah, no
In the bathtub
Meg’s the Minger
She takes funds from the poor and the homely
Her job is embezzling folk
Tossing salads and snorting woke
From her white hub…
Good morning glory to the UK 😜
@Hunter
I said:
Lovely photo, thought it was recent.
PMK?
I was asking who/what is PMK?
Someone? kindly informed me.
Wasn’t implying PMK took the photo 😳
I found a photography studio in Wisconsin when I googled PMK. Perhaps that's it?
I don’t think it’s a public thing at all. I read ages ago it was shifted to a more private area in KP gardens and out of bounds to public viewing. I’m sure as Lady C says herself, it will be a decorous and professional occasion. However, I’d love to be a fly on the wall and see how the royal family reacts to Maggot and vice versa. 🥴
And (joy joy - sarc off) we have this to look forward to:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9718301/Lifetime-releases-trailer-Megxit-movie-Harry-Meghan.html
I'm really enjoying the thought of those companies seeking to exploit the H$Ms `suffering' ending up with egg on their corporate faces.
Of course, people may watch it for the wrong reasons - either to hiss and boo or have a good laugh.
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@Jessica said
Diana most likely died doing what she loved- drinking and being chased by the Press.
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As far as I remember, Diana didn't drink. I think she may even have been completely teetotal.
I find the timeline of Charles cutting them off and their move out of Tyler Perry’s house fascinating. Apparently, they could afford Tyler’s house, by expensing the security cost back to the Duchy/Clarence house and using that to stay free themselves. Once Charles cut the funds, they left.
Where did they go? In the interview they were aghast saying when funding was cut they didn’t have a plan. Harry’s only concern was to fund the security. I’m now convinced they do not own property that they live in (can’t afford? Pre arraignment through Tyler to Oprah’s abodes in Montecito?) and they live on an Oprah property. Their repayment (of housing or deposit) was the interview.
Knowing their budget within the RF- travel specifically- Harry must be absolutely shocked at his lowered standard of living.
RIFT DOWN UNDER Meghan Markle bullying claims: Bust-ups with aides during royal tour of Australia to be focus of probe
EXPLOSIVE bust-ups between the Duchess of Sussex and her aides during the royal tour of Australia are to be the focus of the Buckingham Palace bullying probe.
So Australia might be the disastrous duo's undoing. I'm getting a good laugh over this one. Drip drip drip. Steady drip from The Palace. And over bullying, which can be lethal complaint these days. That can be very difficult to shake off. Megsy-- Crissy is just a phone call away to give you some advice on this. Have your people call her people toot sweet! Toot!
To Charade and AbbyH
Mods and Rockers
The life of a Mod
Can’t be easy, full on plod
I appreciate all that you do
Refereeing these spats
Takes much tact, diplomats
I thank God it’s not me and,
I Thank you
Blogger SirStinxAlot said...
Blogger Lt. Nyota Uhura said...
The Telegraph: Exclusive: Harry and Meghan rejected Earl of Dumbarton title for Archie for containing word 'dumb'
@Lt. Nyota Uhura, SirStinxAlot@
HMTQ should tell the Sussexes she’s taking the titles of Duke and Duchess of Sussex away and leaving them only with the Dumbarton titles for themselves.
If so, could H have got that barony because its people support `King William'?
It's only just occurred to me - there had to be a reason other than Kilkeel needing a new baron!
Hahaha WildBoar 👌
Apparently PMK stands for
Pimp Mama Kardashian!!
Sounds like an accounting firm…
@Maneki
I agree, Diana didn’t like alcohol.
The accounts raised confusion over exactly how much the Sussexes had repaid for the costs of Frogmore Cottage, which remains their UK home. A senior palace source said the couple had personally paid £2.4m, indicating that this sum covered rental to retain the property as well as the refurbishment.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/24/buckingham-palace-aims-to-improve-diversity-of-its-staff
Unfortunately I can't find any more on this aspect in this latest story. When the Sussexes were reported to have paid back the Frogmore £2.4M 'in full' I was jumping up and down for days adding questions online, because the announcement did NOT say they had repaid the £2.4M. It said they had repaid all 'necessary' costs and 'necessary' was not defined. It could have been the cost of a new loo roll holder for all we know. Journalists at all levels reported the announcement and went on to say, in the very next breath, the costs were repaid in full. Such sloppy journalism. Across the board. WHY? It drove me C-R-A-Z-Y. Will we ever be told the truth?
Battle of the Bonk?
King Billy prevails…
Baroness Kilaheel
Not quite fitting 🤨
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Oh my! I've only just realised that it's like Malvolio's letter scene in Twelfth Night (Sc.5)
`By my life, this is my lady's hand these be her
very C's, her U's and her T's and thus makes she her
great P's.
How we groundlings laugh at Elizabethan coarseness!
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Yes, Raspberry Ruffle - you're absolutely right about the statue being in private part of the grounds of KP. Is the the Sunken Garden? Perhaps they'll show us photos?
I wonder what #6's personal journalist will make of it? Would he have been briefed to slant his report heavily in #6's favour? To what extent will he comply? Will any British paper publish it or will it be strictly for the transatlantic readership?
Whatever happens, I can't see H emerging sadder and wiser, sadder maybe (no dosh) but not wiser.
A spokesperson for the Sussexes insisted there was no difference in timeline, and that Harry was actually referring to the first quarter of the fiscal reporting period in the UK, which runs from April to July.
"You are conflating two different timelines and it’s inaccurate to suggest that there’s a contradiction,” Harry and Meghan’s spokesperson said.
“The duke’s comments during the Oprah interview were in reference to the first quarter of the fiscal reporting period in the UK, which starts annually in April."
Yeah right ... we're all sagely nodding our heads. "Oh he was talking in fiscal quarters!" I bet there's some chortling in the corridors at Eton.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-harry-meghan-markle-charles-finances-b1871723.html
New loo roll holder? Or was it just a new loo roll?
I agree with you about the obfuscation over Frogmore costs - it certainly wasn't clear how much they paid nor what it covered. Were the journos as confused as we are?
The Sussex - their picture was so tiny next to the larger frames and hidden behind all those flowers, oh the shade. :)
This is what he has to say in his updated book on the brothers about H&M's final engagement at the Commonwealth Day Service at Westminster Abbey in March 2020.
Robert Lacey has claimed Harry was left "furious" by their treatment at the event.
Mr Lacey said while William and Kate took part in the procession with the Queen and other senior royals, Harry and Meghan were forced to "shuffle to their seats" like all the other attendees.
The couple were made to "take their places on the sidelines" alongside Prince Edward and Sophie Wessex.
Writing in the updated edition of his Battle of Brothers book, Mr Lacey said the Sussexes had been "punished" because they had been "so hustling and aggressive" with Megxit.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9717523/Now-Mail-Sunday-appeal-against-Meghan-Markle-court-ruling.html
What a mistake! There's no way I'll buy that book now.
That was one of the most galling things. That our future king and queen were pulled out of that procession just to placate those two spoilt brats.
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@SirStinx
In one way, or another,
they’re under surveillance.
How can Robert Lacey be called a 'respected royal biographer' when he cannot even get the simplest of facts right!
At age 77 Lacey is farming out his research. He has underlings read this blog, LSA, Harry-Markle blog, DM, Lady C, etc. All these are secondary sources. Original research and information leaked to him by the BRF and others is just a little bit of what goes into what books come out under his name. Dittos for these 10 new chapters that just came out in paperback.
"He is best known for his work as historian to the Netflix award-winning drama The Crown."
So he is swimming in acclaim and made very decent money from "The Crown". He can afford to take the lazy man's approach. He is half resting on his laurels. As far as any inaccuracies, he does not much care. (My analysis)
And truthfully, If I were his age and in his position I would probably do the same. Lazy, slapdash, kick back, while the £££ roll in. It's like having a money tree in your backyard.
I wouldn't dream of buying his book after the way he appears to have back-peddled.
Here's the link to the article.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1453885/royal-family-live-prince-harry-meghan-markle-queen-charles-royal-family-news
So lazy, that even as a respected royal biographer he couldn't be bothered to watch the televised Commonwealth Day Service? Surely, that wouldn't have entailed any effort from him?
He's a busted flush!
Video Editing- This way all W and H fisticuffs, nasty side-eye and heated verbal exchanges can be edited out. (joking) (hopefully)
Camilla Tominey's article in The Telegraph. (archived)
Exclusive: Harry and Meghan rejected Earl of Dumbarton title for Archie for containing word 'dumb'.
https://archive.vn/PCOJq#selection-1113.1-1113.99
Lèse-majesté ~ Traitors and Modern Day Treason
https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2021/06/24/lese-majeste-traitors-and-modern-day-treason/
Scooter did not have a sugar army to counter attack. So sad:)
Megs does have a sugar army, but a pathetic one compared to Beyonce and TS.
Crissy T has loads and loads of sugars but it seems they could not overcome the bullying claims against her. It seems as if they didn't even try much.
As I said, bullying claims are very effective these days. Claims can be true or not. Justified or not. Look out below Megsy. More Palace bullying truth bombs will be dropping on Montecito after the Diana unveiling.
Where the money comes from is important. I read today that the Queen is privately funding the bullying investigation - the Palace was very exact about that. Are they reserving the right to bury the results in their never-ending efforts to protect the Sussexes from themselves and from potentially catastrophic public condemnation?
It reminds me of the Presley family's speed to arrange Elvis' autopsy privately, which meant they could keep the full results from the media. The 50 year embargo runs out in 2027.
That account of the Commonwealth Day Service is a travesty.As I am of a not-dissimilar age to him I think I can ask what is going on, or otherwise, in his head. Has his brain been scrambled by dealing with the H$Ms and their behaviour?
If he is guilty of getting his account ghost-written, it is deplorable that someone with his background should allow this tosh to be published in his name.
Where is his integrity/ Has it gone the same way as that as other Sussex supporters?
I bet JH doesnt even know what a fiscal quarter is much less when it starts/ends in firm!
The boy doesnt seem very bright
Charles gave a ‘substantial sum’ to Harry before he left
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WHEN the Duke of Sussex told Oprah Winfrey that his family had “literally” cut him off financially, sources close to the Prince of Wales could not hide their surprise. The bank statements, they said, told a different story.
It has now emerged that the Prince gave the Sussexes a “substantial sum” when they stepped back from their official roles, apparently contradicting the Duke’s claim that they had only been able to afford their new life in California because of his inheritance from his mother.
It also emerged in Buckingham Palace’s annual Sovereign Grant report that the investigation into alleged bullying by the Duchess of Sussex, which is being conducted by an external law firm, is being paid for privately.
Buckingham Palace declined to confirm which member of the Royal family was footing the bill but said that no taxpayers’ money was being spent on the investigation.
Details of the review were expected to be included in the report, but it has not been completed and aides declined to reveal when its conclusions might be published.
Meanwhile, the Clarence House annual review reveals that Prince Charles gave a total of £4.5million to the Cambridges and the Sussexes in the last financial year, down from £5.6 million the year before. Clarence House confirmed that it included a “substantial sum” to help the Sussexes after their departure from royal life, payments that ended last summer.
“As we’ll all remember, in January 2020 when the Duke and Duchess announced that they were going to move away from the working Royal family, the Duke said that they would work towards becoming financially independent,” a spokesman said.
“The Prince of Wales … alloca
He described the couple’s departure from the working Royals as “a matter of enormous sadness to the family”, but added: “The Prince wanted to help make this work. I betray no confidence when I say they’ve been very successful in becoming financially independent.”
A spokesperson for the Sussexes insisted that there was no contradiction between their version of events and the Palace’s and that it was “inaccurate” to suggest otherwise.
“The Duke’s comments during the Oprah interview were in reference to the first quarter of the fiscal reporting period in the UK, which starts annually in April,” she said.
“This is the same date that the ‘transitional year’ of the Sandringham agreement began and is aligned with the timeline that Clarence House referenced.”
In the interview, the Duke told Oprah: “my family literally cut me off financially… in the first half, the first quarter of 2020. But I’ve got what my mum left me, and, without that, we would not have been able to do this.”
The revelations come as Buckingham Palace admitted that it was failing in its efforts to improve diversity as it published staffing figures for the first time since the Sussexes’ racism allegations.
The Sovereign Grant report, published today, reveals that 8.5 per cent of employees at the Palace are from an ethnic minority background. Aides said they hoped to increase that figure to 10 per cent by the end of next year. A senior palace source acknowledged it “must do more” to improve diversity, adding: “We are not where we would like to be despite our efforts.”
The aide said that the figures had been published so there could be “no place to hide” and they could be held accountable if no progress was made.ted a substantial sum to support them with this transition.”
Clarence House revealed that 8 per cent of its staff were from ethnic minority backgrounds, which it also admitted was “not where we need to be.”
The figures come months after the Sussexes accused the Royal family of racism, claiming that concerns had been raised about the colour of their unborn son’s skin.
About 13 per cent of the British population is from a minority ethnic background.
The report reveals that the palace diversity strategy, agreed in 2017-18, was adapted early last year, shortly after the Sussexes moved abroad, to “actively emphasise the importance of inclusion”, although plans to appoint a diversity tsar have been paused.
It also disclosed a significant black hole in palace finances, with annual income supplementing the Sovereign Grant falling from £20.2million to £9.4 million.
The Royal household had previously estimated that £15 million over three years would be lost in income from the Royal Collection Trust but it fell by £18million this year alone.
The reduction was partly offset by £2.4 million received from the Sussexes to reimburse the public purse for the refurbishment of Frogmore Cottage.
The lump sum was considered sufficient to also cover the couple’s rental costs for the property for 18 months until March 2022, when the annual licence on the property is due to be renewed.
The accounts show the monarchy cost the taxpayer £87.5 million during the last financial year, an increase of £18.1 million on the previous year. Property maintenance costs rose by £11.2 million to £49.5 million as the 10-year project to renovate Buckingham Palace continued.
Under the Civil Procedure Rules 1998, the appeal must have "a real prospect of success", or there must be "some other compelling reason why the appeal should be heard" for it to be accepted.
It would be interesting to know the reason behind the Court's acceptance of the appeal.
I wonder if Harry is bringing his own 'reporter' to the statue unveiling because he wants video footage for the rumored documentary on royal life for Netflix that he & #6w are allegedly making. There were rumors of #6w filming behind the scenes stuff of the RF before the Harkle departure in 2020. The RF is constantly photographed in their public appearances, but they understandably keep behind the scenes photos out of the public eye. I would hope that they won't allow #6 & his wife to violate the 'real' RF's privacy, bad enough that #6 & #6w violate their own.
You might be right about the reason for the private funding of the bullying investigation. But if it had been announced the investigation was publicly funded, the public likely would have been livid.
Thank you for the poem and always sending positive vibes our way. 😉
One could, I suppose, but one would enter the realm of fantasy, a very Grim(m) fairytale:
`Here we have a `hero’ figure, handsome, valiant, full of jokes. He may prefer carnal love to courtly love but, hey! It just shows he’s red-blooded. Little do the people know that underneath he is corrupt.
He marries a beautiful maiden (A maiden? You’ve got to be kidding!) who turns upon a silver sixpence and becomes a witch, whereupon he is transmogrified into the Beast, ferociously jealous of his elder brother whom he is determined to destroy. The Witch and the Beast marry but are Unhappy Ever After.
They claim to have 2 children who are kept out of sight lest they fall into the hands of the Younger Wicked Uncle and disappear like the nephews of Richard III. The little girl is destined to be the magical reincarnation of another, beautiful, princess.
(There’s an Older Wicked Uncle too but he keeps well of the way.)
Nevertheless, it’s the witch who complains about being locked in a tower – sadly she has yet to find a wig long enough for her to use it as a rope to descend to the ground. Besides, she’d be bald without a wig, assuming she’s tied it to the bedstead.
Eventually, she and her husband is lured away by the promise of untold wealth at the top of the beanstalk, cheered on by the rats..
Our hero is also a Baron and therefore has at least 2 henchmen - Fitzscobie and de Lacey. All follow on, up the beanstalk, looking for Fool's Gold.
There’s a wicked stepmother, whom the beautiful but dead princess hated; she keeps her silence but sees everything. Meanwhile, the Younger Uncle and his wife, the Good Fairy, are mocked for being old-fashioned and boring – little do the Baron and the Witch realise that these two are the ones with the real moral strength and the love of the people.
Now read on…
There should be a dragon in here somewhere – ideas, please.
Presented with this scenario, one could be forgiven for not believing it. Could it be the basis for a children's picture book?
Blogger Lt. Nyota Uhura said...
The Telegraph: Exclusive: Harry and Meghan rejected Earl of Dumbarton title for Archie for containing word 'dumb'
@Lt. Nyota Uhura, SirStinxAlot@
HMTQ should tell the Sussexes she’s taking the titles of Duke and Duchess of Sussex away and leaving them only with the Dumbarton titles for themselves.
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@Happy Days, I would add that the Queen's decision on that should be contingent on the agreement of the counties involved. They say "no way do we want this pair of grifters representing us," then no it is. I suspect there are NO counties in the U.K. ANYWHERE that would want them for ANY reason.
You might be right about the reason for the private funding of the bullying investigation. But if it had been announced the investigation was publicly funded, the public likely would have been livid.
I think you're right but I also think if people were asked to contribute to something that would definitively see an end to the Sussexes in our national life, it would be a huge crowd-funding success.
Mind you, IS there anything that would see off the Sussexes? They're the equivalent of cockroaches surviving a nuclear bomb. They may survive as perennial nuisances even to Good King William V. In our faces to the bitter end. Only as long as they can pay their PR bills of course.
They need to be starved of money. Fortunately they both have the tendency not to follow through. They don't deliver what companies pay for. Only if someone was buying chaos and confusion would they be successful earners in the long-term. Vladimir Putin anyone?
*blush* Well, you did ask for ideas, :)
And yes, you're definitely on to something!
'While it was never published, the Duchess did obtain copyright for the publication and its title in January 1996, when she was just aged 14.' How long has she been copyrighted every word/sentence?
And: 'It is not known whether researchers found the book or whether they were alerted to its existence by the Duchess, (what's your bet?) but the library had to get “specific permission from the author” to make it available to the public.'
Again, delusions of grandeur. This is from an article from the Telegraph - sorry, I can't post a link - and it says the phrase ' a face without freckles etc' has been 'credited to her father Thomas'. Originally, yes but in fact plagiarised from a song (1995), A Sky With No Blue by Paula Joy Welter. The Telegraph article does not mention that fact.
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Lt Nyota - Thank you. I like the idea of a wise, well-intentioned dragon, tho a virgin-eater would turn up its snout at the prospect of being offered MM as a snck.
Tolkien's Smaug guarded treasure - who guards the `treasure' here and can be quite fierce when the occasion requires it - would that be Anne or Charles, do you think??
(LOL at "virgin-eater" turning up its snout at M!)
Duke of the Isles of Scilly also a contender
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9720731/Social-media-users-jest-claims-Harry-Meghan-refused-let-Archie-Earl-Dumbarton.html
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it says the phrase ' a face without freckles etc' has been 'credited to her father Thomas'. Originally, yes but in fact plagiarised from a song (1995), A Sky With No Blue by Paula Joy Welter. The Telegraph article does not mention that fact.
I have to wonder where this phrase really came from because as a child with freckles, my Russian grandmother used to say this to me in the late 1950s early 1960s!
It should have been in reply to @Maneki Neko
A song & dance number for MM?
How about using Eartha Kitt's `Just An Old Fashioned Girl'?
Performance here at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcM_X11qgw8`
Lyrics at
:https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/earthakitt/justanoldfashionedgirl.html
I've always loved that number but this iIime I've seen her perform
it .s
Duke of Scilly - that's brilliant too.
Perfect song for her song and dance number!
I wonder what #6's personal journalist will make of it? Would he have been briefed to slant his report heavily in #6's favour? To what extent will he comply? Will any British paper publish it or will it be strictly for the transatlantic readership?
Whatever happens, I can't see H emerging sadder and wiser, sadder maybe (no dosh) but not wiser.
We’ll just get photos or perhaps some filmed footage. I personally think Mr Plastic Fantastic Face Scabies will be Mole’s so called journalist of choice.... he won’t require any briefing cos he will gladly make it up as he goes along! 😳😂 Scabies will Twitter the news out regardless.
Mole won’t learn or change.....just more of the same...and probably worsening. 🤨
I’ve got to catch up on reading, I’ve been out in the garden attempting to plant a shrub with my Mum. 😎
It was @Maneki who found the song. I addressed my post to you by mistake, whilst meaning to reply to Maneki.
Not enough sleep last night!
'BBC Radio 4's Nick Robinson chuckles and appears to poke fun at Harry and Meghan while co-host Justin Webb is in stitches over reports the Sussexes rejected Earl of Dumbarton title for Archie over fears he would be bullied'.
'Listeners also enjoyed the funny moment that came weeks after Harry and Meghan declared war on the BBC over their claims that they failed to consult the Queen about using her nickname 'Lilibet' for their new daughter, with the couple's lawyers calling it 'false and defamatory'. '(DM).
I'm not one to gloat but they really have brought this upon themselves. As for their lawyers, the 6s really have money to burn.
Official engagements to be undertaken by members of the Royal Family are published up advance. The Queen communicates. (Dumbarton?🤔)
"The Queen is Scotland-bound next week for four days of engagements north of the border celebrating Scottish community, innovation and history in Edinburgh, Glasgow and Stirling. HM will be joined by the Duke of Cambridge, Earl of Strathearn and the Princess Royal"
Prince William ICES Harry & Meg/Diagnosed PSYCHOTIC/Plan 2 DETHRONE HEIRS B4 QUEEN passes/on SKIDS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iyriT8W6-8
From the Scotsman:
https://www.scotsman.com/news/uk-news/queens-traditional-trip-to-scotland-goes-ahead-for-holyrood-week-3285570
Queen's traditional trip to Scotland goes ahead for Holyrood Week
The Queen is going ahead with her traditional trip to Scotland for Holyrood Week.
By Laura Elston
Thursday, 24th June 2021, 4:07 pm
Updated29 minutes ago
The 95-year-old monarch, who has spent most of lockdown at Windsor Castle, will be joined by her grandson the Duke of Cambridge, and then by her daughter the Princess Royal.
She will carry out in-person engagements celebrating Scottish community, innovation and history over four days, between Monday June 28 and Thursday July 1, Buckingham Palace said.
The Queen will stay at the Palace of Holyroodhouse, her official residence in Scotland.
On Monday, she will be joined by William at engagements, while Anne will accompany the Queen on Wednesday and Thursday.
Holyrood Week was unable to take place last year due to Covid.
Traditional events hosting thousands of people such as the garden party at Holyroodhouse will not be taking place.
Buckingham Palace said: “This year’s Royal Week will continue to recognise the good work and contribution of individuals and communities, through a range of in-person visits by Her Majesty.”
Imagine, flying in from the US, having to go into quarantine - and hardly seeing anyone from the family because they've all scattered, rather than have to see you.
So many people here made fun of Dumbarton because it had dumb in it. Please don’t act like you didn’t.
GUILTY!!!
I made fun of Sussex, Kileel, and Dumbarton too. -American that finds foreign names funny sometimes.
For the last month Lady C has been averaging 200,000 views
Meghan and Harry's friend Omid Scobie hits back at reports Charles bankrolled them after Megxit as he denies discrepancy in 'timeline of financial support' from Clarence House
Accounts showed Charles still funded Harry and Meghan until summer 2020
It was from £4.4m Clarence House pot used to support his sons and families
Harry had said he stopped getting financial support in 'first quarter' of last year
But his trusted journalist Omid Scobie today said both timelines 'are the same'
She reiterates Meghan's claim that she and H are `only one plane crash away from the throne'and that getting H to be Regent has been her aim all along. Lady C is clear, though, that it's in hand to ensure that that will not happen.
There's no hesitation in her assertion that M not only displays the Dark Triad but that she has severe mental illness as well - talks of paranoid psychosis. I recall we discussed the possibility that she had something over and above NPD a long time ago but then the majority here didn't buy it at that time and that indeed we shouldn't talk about it. Well, I'm not a medical professional so am not bound by any code of ethics so I'm going to say I agree with her 100%..
Also,she dismisses the idea of her being a Trojan Horse political plant by the Marxists (I thought at first she said `the Martians'!) but certainly, in my view, her way of carrying on doesn't hurt their cause.
it is clear that Lady C is no longer afraid to speak out fully. It's very worth while listening to it.
I'm repeating the link that Miggy gave in case this post ends up a long way down the thread.
Thank you Miggy.
Prince William ICES Harry & Meg/Diagnosed PSYCHOTIC/Plan 2 DETHRONE HEIRS B4 QUEEN passes/on SKIDS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iyriT8W6-8
Magatha- love the poem to the Mods. So true too!
Bullying is definitely how Megs will get buried. Today's public, no matter their affiliations, cannot stomach bullying. It's something most people have experienced in their lives and it is a horrible, negative experience that can take a lot of time, therapy, whatever to get over.
Chrissy Teigen is done for. Plus she and her husband do something else many people hate- political rants. No Oprah interview can help her, if and when she could ever get one.
Meghan Markle is such a narcissist that it never occured to her in her wildest dreams that bullying would come back to haunt her. Kim Kardashian and Jennifer Lopez are examples of celebrities that figured out quickly that if those types of behaviors are leaked, the public will have a fit. Kim for example, in the beginning of her career, she was snotty, bossy. She realized quickly that type of behavior could doom her, so she adjusted and whatever you think of her, she is apparently quite sweet. I know someone who has met her. Who knows what the truth is but the bottom line is you cannot stay afloat as a celebrity and have a bad reputation. There are some examples but typically it's the end. Especially now.
William of course, has ALL the dirt. He can conveniently blame the investigation on the palace courtiers, but he and Kate know damn well what Meghan is like.
Oh I don’t think any Nutty would. 😋 I’ve seen lots of reference to the dumb bit in lots of media. 😁Besides I think Mole and Maggot got off lightly. We have some great place names here in Blighty. If there was a Ducal named after them they could have been bestowed the title of Duke and Duchess of Pratts Bottom or Duke and Duchess of Sandy Balls, the list is endless. 😁
/You still gettin' lots of rain?
I hope not to be contentious but I'd like to clarify my position:
I made fun of the Harkles for not realising earlier that it was a joke against them.
I, for one, have never mocked the Burgh of Dumbarton nor the county of Dunbartonshire as such; the normal usage of `dumb' in the UK doesn't mean `stupid'.
I understand how the name came about (`hillfort of the Britons' ie the people in the Kingdom of Strathclyde) - it's a name to be proud of.
The County Council misguidedly, in the view of some, changed the spelling to distinguish between the burgh and the county. There are, after all, plenty of counties with towns/cities of the same name, in both Scotland and England which never encounter difficulties.
`Dun' is the original form but it morphs into `Dum' when it's followed by a `b'; yet nobody worries about `Dunbar'.
I've also heard of Dumbarton Oaks in the US.
There are place names in England which invariably make outsiders smirk even when there's no way of construing the name as an insult - say, Wigan, Basingstoke or Swindon. It gets very tedious when having to give one's address but one has to rise above it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdz59okiJlU
Yet again we are asked to show patience with the nuanced, slow and steady BRF strategy. That they are ladies and gentlemen who don't get down and dirty. I'm still doubtful about that. All I can think of is that Sussex lies get around the world, again and again, before truth has got its sturdy Windsor boots on.
Most people aren't nutty like us, keeping tabs on all this. They won't make undue efforts to understand all this at a deeper level. They'll take what their newsfeeds give them over their morning coffee thank you very much. The Windsor failure to consistently make the case for THE truth comes across as arrogance and complacency. Those faults belong with the Sussexes alone.
I find your defense of Harkleland to be very interesting, particularly at this time.
So many people here made fun of Dumbarton because it had dumb in it. Please don’t act like you didn’t.
I enjoyed that sport and I don't deny that I did. However, my fascinator is off to the Queen who was the inventor of that particular little joke. Well done, Your Maj. Out of all the available titles of her realms which she could have bestowed upon her grandson, she picked that one. No offense meant to the good people of Dumbarton, which is a real place--one which the Sussexes did not deign to visit during the approximately 18 months they gave to the Firm, and the citizens of that upstanding little village have been pretty vocal that they were not best pleased to be selected for the very dubious honor of having Harry as their squire. It is Dumbarton and its citizens who are besmirched by the association with Harry, not the other way 'round.
Harry is also Baron Kilkeel of Ireland, which is another subsidiary title he could have given to his son. No associations of 'dumb' there, but perhaps HM was having a bit of fun with the syllables of 'kil(l)' and 'keel', as in 'even-keeled', something which neither of the Harkle pair very demonstrably is not. I do not wish him on any hamlet in Ireland, either.
It seems that the Royal Family had Meghan and the likelihood of this union's success well-sussed before the wedding (hence 'SUSSex' perhaps. Other nods to the Queen's droll sense of occasion, in an inimitably dry British way, we are all familiar with:
Out of all the Saturdays in the year which she could have decreed for #6's marriage, she selected May 19th, the anniversary of Anne Boleyn's beheading. Anne was another pushy and conniving brunette who weaponized sex upon a dim Royal to nearly destroy the monarchy. Strange way to give One's blessing to her grandson's union, innit.
And the Rolls Royce ferrying the 3-times bride and her mother is the same one that ferried the body of the last 3-times married American Duchess pretender to her grave.
These are nuances that would have been entirely lost on the Harkles, I imagine. Harry could not pass high school and his Duchess didn't know the words to 'God Save the Queen'. I've been able to sing that song since about the fourth grade and I've never been engaged to one of its scions. Seems like the first thing one would want to learn. That and curtsying. Yet Whip Smart failed spectacularly at both.
"The memorial will include a plaque, a playground and a fountain surrounding the official sculpture of the Princess of Wales, who died in 1997 at the age of 36."
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/why-prince-harrys-u-k-trip-for-dianas-memorial-will-be-quick/
There are place names in England which invariably make outsiders smirk even when there's no way of construing the name as an insult - say, Wigan, Basingstoke or Swindon. It gets very tedious when having to give one's address but one has to rise above it.
By outsiders, do you mean Americans? I don't find anything particularly pun-worthy about those names. Americans go into hysterics over the names of some of your food, though. Like 'spotted dick'. We can't believe that's something people actually eat, much less order. :)
Be grateful that you do not hail from 'Intercourse, Pennsylvania' or similar.
Pratts Bottom and Sandy Balls are actually real? What a shame the Queen passed up those opportunities. I'm sure she thought they would be too easily detectable as to her actual thoughts, perhaps? The House of Windsor prefers to be stealth.
I think the current occupier of the Earl of Dumbarton title is a human tragedy on a par with Judas Iscariot, with a similar fate coming, I imagine. After the Queen passes on, the way things are looking, the rest of his family will refuse to see him ever again. He has punched his ticket good. I really really do not think he was prepared for this. Sure, I believe he wanted to go play hooky in America and be lavishly subsidized by the Crown as he rubbed elbows with movie stars and did all the California blow he wanted. He thought he could swan in for balcony photo ops and other 'cool' events like Royal charity polo and James Bond premieres and stuff. And that he could come and go as he pleased, with no loss of privileges. Because he and TW were 'Rock Stars!'
He has been schooled and is now throwing a massive fit over not getting his way.
I would wish for him the punishment of Prometheus. Seems fitting for opening fire on his Granny, father, brother and everyone who has tried to love him. He has never made it easy for them.
from Wikipedia:
Zeus, king of the Olympian gods, sentenced Prometheus to eternal torment for his transgression. Prometheus was bound to a rock, and an eagle—the emblem of Zeus—was sent to eat his liver (in ancient Greece, the liver was often thought to be the seat of human emotions).[8] His liver would then grow back overnight, only to be eaten again the next day in an ongoing cycle.[8]
A playground within Royal palace grounds is kind of bizarre, though William's children could get some use out of it, I suppose, for a few years. Louis is 3, but George will soon be of an age where he is too old for playgrounds. Would all the little cousins be imported for a playdate even though they don't live at Kensington Palace?
It is my understanding that there is already a Diana fountain and playground in nearby Hyde Park (is that the right one?). A simple statue of the late Princess in the place she liked best is a lovely tribute, one that all ages could use as a memorial. This is a private family garden and so a playground seems odd to include.
I have a feeling after all of this hullabaloo, the actual event/objects are going to be somewhat anticlimactic. What a shame after all this planning over so many years that it is going to be spoiled because the brothers are not on good terms. I know it won't happen but the press should be barred. Maybe they will select one photographer for official photographs.
Thank you for the link to Lady C YouTube video. I think you have to be really sick in the head to say "we are one plane crash away from the throne." The worst is that she believes it and probably thinks she's still in with a chance. Time for the men in white - these problems get worse, not better.
For the pace is hot, and the points are near, And Sleep hath deadened the driver's ear; And signals flash through the night in vain. Death is in charge of the clattering train!
Everyone should write to the Cambridges and plead with them, never to travel together.
No, I certainly don't mean Americans! They're not puns, no special meaning, just that they strike people as oddly comical.
We work on a much smaller scale than in the US - so with Swindon, it can be people from the other side of the Wiltshire border; outside Lancashire for Wigan; and Basingstoke? Just about from anywhere.
We don't associate Dumbarton with dimness - it's pronounced as `Dum-barton'.
Then we've got our `-bottoms' which mean `valley'( Rams - & Six-Mile-, for eg - some people have them as surnames, which can get silly - people called `Sidebottom' might insists it's really `Siddybotarm!)
Spotted Dick is sometimes known as Spotted Dog - it's gone out of fashion now we have less need of winter puddings that stick to the ribs and suet doughs are deemed unhealthy. I used to enjoy it at school though. Anyone for Toad in the Hole?
Diana Dors, an English answer to Kayne Mansfield. was born Diana Mary Fluck in Swindon - that usually gets a laugh, even without echoing JM's query involving her little dog!
https://marvellousmaps.com/place-names
https://anglotopia.net/ultimate-list-of-funny-british-place-names/
Last time I was in London, at a gallery or library or something, there was a very underwhelming water feature commemorating Diana. Everyone seemed oblivious. I often think there's a collective embarrassment in the UK about remembering Diana. As if our mourning that week was the equivalent of getting blind drunk and telling everyone how much you love them forever and ever while draped around their necks. I was one of the ones who burst into tears immediately on hearing the news, and I still don't understand it. I don't like to be reminded of that time. Add to that all this sturm und drang between her sons and you have a nation wishing this statue had never been started.
Not sure if anyone's seen this yet from The Sun, but I think they've been given the green light to call stuff out and not old back...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15379715/meghan-markle-prince-harry-lies-oprah-claims-doubt/
"IN FOR A PENNY Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s ‘lies’ about being cut off put other 17 Oprah claims in doubt, expert says"
Snip: "Royal author Phil Dampier told The Sun Online it should be “added to a long list of things said in the Oprah interview which weren’t true”.
...He described Meghan as a “delusional actress who wants to make millions off the royals while trashing the family”."
H might be a different matter?
Yes, very real places. 😁 I had a distant cousin who lived at Pratts Bottom (Kent I believe)and I used to live not too far from Sandy Balls (Hampshire). Yes, a peerage with either of those names would have been apt, I have no idea whether a peerage even exists for either of those places. 🥴 As I say, Maggot and Mole got off lightly with their secondary titles. 😃
Hissing fits abound, I don’t think things will end well for either of them. Lady C’s latest offerings often mention the fact money is tight....they’ll be running on fresh air soon because no one with any clout and/or moral principles won’t go near them. 🧐
Diana Memorial Playground is in Kensington Gardens, as is the Diana Memorial Fountain (which is really a rill). They make it sound as if the statue will be `enclosed' by the `Fountain'
It's all labelled on Google Earth.
The large block of parkland you can see, consists of KP & its private grounds in the SW corner.
Heading east and as far as the lake called the the Serpentine is Kensington Gardens, with the Round Pond.
To the E & N of the Serpentine is Hyde Park.
Kensington Gardens and Hyde Park are both open to the public. Kensington Palace gardens are not.
I hope that clears up the muddle. Roughly, the dimensions of the entire space are 1.5 miles from the western boundary of KP to Park Lane and 0.65 miles across from Bayswater Road to Kensington Gore/ South Carriage Drive.
The Sunken Garden is the area in KP gardens that looks like a patterned carpet.
Thanks for the info!
This is why I was confused why so many said it’s open to the public, thus assuming the unveiling would be too. I knew it was taking place at KP and it’s only when the press are invited do we see the private gardens. 🤗
https://www.hrp.org.uk/kensington-palace/whats-on/the-palace-gardens/#gs.4q5f3z
Meghan Markle is such a narcissist that it never occured to her in her wildest dreams that bullying would come back to haunt her.
@Christine:
I am hoping the accounts of Meghan’s alleged bullying of staff will come to light as a result of the palace investigation.
Meghan bullying palace staff would not be the first time there have bern allegations that she has been a bully. I've read accounts online about her activities in high school and college.
I think I may have copied some of the recollections of her bullying behavior. I will look to see if I can locate them and put them into this thrad this weekend.
The statue will be placed in the Sunken Garden at Kensington Palace, which was one of Diana’s favorite places during her 15 years living in Apartment 1A (now occupied by her son William and daughter-in-law Duchess Kate.).
https://parade.com/1219379/roisinkelly/princess-diana-statue-details-prince-william-prince-harry/
Well, this information was given by Kensington Palace in 2020.
"Kensington Palace said installation of the sculpture had been delayed by the coronavirus pandemic, but it would be unveiled in the Sunken Garden next year"
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53947508
I don't have any information about it being changed. It's a ceremony. I understand it's public. Separate speeches from William and Harry are expected.
The cafe AKA The Orangery is open to the public and the public have access to some parts of KP gardens too (next to The Oranger). The Orangery can be hired for weddings and functions as well. Perhaps this what is meant by public access? 🥴
I meant to add in my last comment. Was the unveiling originally taking place in Kensington Gardens but it was stitched to KP gardens? Or was it always intended to be at KP gardens? I can’t remember. 🥴
"Prometheus was bound to a rock, and an eagle—the emblem of Zeus—was sent to eat his liver (in ancient Greece, the liver was often thought to be the seat of human emotions).[8] His liver would then grow back overnight, only to be eaten again the next day in an ongoing cycle."[8]
Made me think of the lads on the Shankhill offering to dangle my narc ex-husband blindfolded, from a helicoptor in flight, over a cliff. They said "Don't worry. We won't kill him. He'll just shite his trousers daily for a month! Maniacal laughter... I was horrified.
Re: DnD of Dumbarton LMAO off at those place names!!
Thanks.
I thought the statue was always connected to the Sunken Garden area in KP Gardens. Maybe I'm wrong.
Last time I was in London, at a gallery or library or something, there was a very underwhelming water feature commemorating Diana. Everyone seemed oblivious. I often think there's a collective embarrassment in the UK about remembering Diana. As if our mourning that week was the equivalent of getting blind drunk and telling everyone how much you love them forever and ever while draped around their necks. I was one of the ones who burst into tears immediately on hearing the news, and I still don't understand it. I don't like to be reminded of that time. Add to that all this sturm und drang between her sons and you have a nation wishing this statue had never been started.
Don't feel ashamed of crying. That is a natural reaction to such a sudden and shocking event, for those of us who aren't psychopaths. I remember being up late watching TV when that newsbreak came on. At first it was garbled; the report was that she'd sustained a broken arm and was being treated for more superficial injuries. Then, the boom fell.
Diana was messed up, and the longer we knew her the more that became obvious. But the death of any young person, and that promise unfulfilled, is shocking--even for celebrities we don't know. I sat at my desk at work and blubbered my way through PP's funeral--and he was a man of great and distinguished old age. The mass hysteria surrounding Diana's death that entire week was an unprecedented global wake . . notable because it was so out of the norm for the British character . . but we were just as saddened here in the States--we just didn't have a focal point for our national grief like you did with the palace gates at which to lay flowers.
So many flowers . . a sea of them. Imagine if all that money had been donated to Diana's charities what good that might have done, rather than filling up the landfills with rotting vegetation.
The statue wasn't commissioned until 2017, the 20th anniversary of the accident, which seems to have been too long to wait, never mind her 60th birthday--commemorating a birthday which she will never see . . and would have hated to be, probably. Considering what's gone on with the Wales brothers since 2017, it is a shame that it couldn't have been brought forward earlier.
Swampwoman, yeah, just buckets and buckets. Hope your husband is doing ok. I understand the worry,,, mine has been under a lot of stress. ❤️
Someone thanked me for rescuing the puppies on the last board… sorry my sleep deprived brain can’t remember who it was. You are welcome, though I admit they are testing my limits.
I am anxious for the Australian “thrown tea pot” vs. “cup of hot water” truth to come out with that one. I never believed a thrown tea pot, but the knocked over cup intrigues me. Could be outrageous depending on how it’s depicted… likely outrageous
The statue will be placed in the Sunken Garden at Kensington Palace, which was one of Diana’s favorite places during her 15 years living in Apartment 1A (now occupied by her son William and daughter-in-law Duchess Kate.).
A minor point, but in the interests of accuracy: Diana and Charles occupied Apartments 8 & 9 at Kensington Palace, not 1A where Kate and William live.
Blogger Miggy said...
According to Lady C, someone who was once in M's presence heard her say, "we are one plane crash away from the throne."
There was an article stating M$H want their son Archie to know all about being royal, "just in case" one day he becomes heir. It was published shortly after moving back to California. It discussed 3 nannies, team of early development specialists, therapists, and a governess-all for Archie. H was planning to teach Archie all about being royal and UK. I can't find it anywhere, only Oprah interview stuff. Grrrrr!
I did find this though, do Im not completely crazy.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.btimesonline.com/amp/articles/145413/20210121/meghan-markle-revelation-duchess-allegedly-has-a-team-of-therapists-for-archie-harrison.htm
I find it difficult to belive that someone as calculating as H's wife would be that stupid to utter something that nefarious publically.
There was an article stating M$H want their son Archie to know all about being royal, "just in case" one day he becomes heir. It was published shortly after moving back to California. It discussed 3 nannies, team of early development specialists, therapists, and a governess-all for Archie. H was planning to teach Archie all about being royal and UK.
I vaguely remember an article along those lines... so rest assured, you're not going crazy! :)
The only crazies are the Harkles!!
@magatha?
Cant remember why this PMK thing came up within the last month
But PMK was/is a jewellery brand that MM wore or one of her friends designed.
https://www.tmz.com/2021/06/24/prince-harry-meghan-markle-baby-birth-certificate-daughter-his-royal-highness-royals-family/
I was wrong - KP gardens ARE open int general run of things
Here's the link: Kensington Palace Gardens
https://www.hrp.org.uk/kensington-palace/whats-on/the-palace-gardens/#gs.4qaued
Humble grovelling...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9723065/Princes-William-Harry-drastically-scale-unveiling-statue-Princess-Diana-Covid.html
https://dam.tmz.com/document/5d/o/2021/06/24/5d3940c4ef4e4326a947aa3157c14317.pdf
I was surprised Lady C was so definite that H would never be regent in the case of a disaster. That it wouldn't happen, regardless of what stage we had reached dealing with the Sussexes. She said it would be someone like Princess Anne backed up by Prince Edward. Well you can't just say don't worry it won't come to that. The succession has to be changed and that will take a long time and very careful management.
Haven't seen Lady C's vid on this topic. But it seems that after all the events of the last 3 years that there would be *ample* evidence of H's unfitness for the responsibility of Regent to the future King (or Queen). The public is not privy to everything but surely BP and appropriate security services would have the dossiers on H's stints in drug rehab, potential arrests for possession which have been swept under the carpet, not to mention his mental health files, and his own many personal admissions of mental instability on tape and in print. Then there's the treachery against his father, brother and most of all his sovereign Majesty who he seems to not be in proper awe of. This is all set down. TQ can insist until her dying day that H is still a beloved grandson but that does not mean he is, or has ever been a *trusted* grandson, worthy to hold the office of Counselor of State. They've jollied him along on paper rather than raise too many questions about the true status of his mental and emotional capacity--but it's all coming unstuck now by H's very public meltdown. There's got to be a 'raving maniacs are deemed ineligible' clause in there somewhere.
But you are right, this should absolutely be codified if it has not been already.
No demotion is so swift as that of the second-born. 3rd in line at his birth, when the boys were young, anything might have happened--any childhood accident or illness could have catapulted Harry to be Charles's heir. Even as young adults, Harry was still an important person in the heirarchy--until Wills married and had children. I suppose H lies awake at night cursing himself for not killing William in some 'accident' when they were children, so he could be King Harry for real and not just in his late mother's form of pet address. I'm sure Diana herself knew absolutely that William was better suited to be King. The more boisterous Harry appeared to be made of sturdier stuff when he was little but that came unraveled pretty quick. Haz is very uncomfortable in himself particularly in unscripted moments.
Yes, William, for God's sake, please stop travelling with the kids, particularly George, but they all need to be kept safe. Travelling all together as family Cambridge seems to be tempting fate too much.
The source also said that Harry wasn't sold on the idea in the beginning. However, he witnessed first-hand how the occupational therapists worked to improve Archie's sensory perceptions.
I remember us doing a face-palm, so to speak, when we heard about the `team of therapists'. We were incredulous, especially when she was quoted as saying wtte that she wanted to foster superior ability.
Then we hear something like the above extract and wonder what's wrong with him? Was he partially sighted or deaf?
If he is flawed in any way, assuming he exists, she's likely to give him hell. Narcs don't produce flawed children...
Thanx, Sir Stinx.
Does this mean he doesn't even know what his name is?
But the idea a law would be passed to replace Harry, Andrew, Bea, and Eugenie as legal regents under the standing Regency Act of 1937 with Anne and Edward seems a bit unlikely to me. And the 1953 Act was passed before a regent was needed, not after.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9723065/Princes-William-Harry-drastically-scale-unveiling-statue-Princess-Diana-Covid.html
Princes slash Diana ceremony guest list: William and Harry drastically scale back unveiling of the statue of Princess of Wales as Covid forces them to reduce invites to ceremony
•Brothers were due to put aside bitter rift to host an elaborate ceremony on July 1
• They will preside over a significantly reduced gathering with a handful of guests
• Pair had planned for more than 100 of Diana’s friends, ex-staff and supporters
• Guests told large ceremony scrapped and a new date will be fixed for September
By RICHARD KAY EDITOR AT LARGE FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 22:07, 24 June 2021 | UPDATED: 22:56, 24 June 2021
Princes William and Harry have drastically scaled back next week’s unveiling of the statue of Princess Diana, the Daily Mail can reveal.
The brothers were due to put aside their bitter rift to host an elaborate ceremony on July 1 at Kensington Palace, her former home, on what would have been their mother’s 60th birthday.
Instead they will preside over a significantly reduced gathering featuring just a handful of guests – the estranged princes themselves and Spencer relatives.
Up until this week they had been planning to welcome more than 100 of their mother’s friends, former staff and supporters. But Covid rules have pressed them into a rethink.
Guests have been told that next Thursday’s large ceremony has been scrapped and that a new date will be fixed for September.
It is a bitter disappointment for many in Diana’s circle who had hoped their presence would help bring about a reconciliation between William and his brother. They have been barely on speaking terms since Harry and Meghan quit royal life for California. Whether this makes a rapprochement that much easier remains to be seen.
The pair have privately told friends that they will do their utmost to ensure their differences do not distract from what they hope will be a moving celebration to recognise their mother’s ‘positive impact’.
Ever since they announced plans for the statue it has been bedevilled by problems. Originally it was hoped to be unveiled in 2017.
But there were delays over the design and, according to insiders, differences of opinion over what period in Diana’s life the statue should represent.
Such divisions led the committee set up after her death in 1997 in order to find a suitable way to celebrate her life to conclude that a statue would be wrong.
At the time, her family expressed reservations that no sculptor had ever properly ‘caught’ Diana. There were also real fears that a statue would become a shrine.
Those fears have not subsided but with the passing years, William and Harry felt the time was right for a life-size figure. They sought private donations to fund the statue, which has been created by artist Ian Rank-Broadley, whose portrait of the Queen appears on all British coins.
The statue was finished in 2018, but Harry and Meghan’s wedding and Megxit delayed the unveiling.
Donors including Elton John and David Furnish will now be invited to September’s party along with other friends and family – but there is no guarantee Harry will be there.
So while many watching on Thursday will be keen to see how the artist has imagined Diana, many more will be searching for any sign that the warring brothers can settle their differences.
Oh dear, does this mean the agony will continue?
If Diana is sitting on a bench, I am going to LOL.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9723175/JAN-MOIR-debt-Prince-Harry-never-repay-Royal-Bank-Dad.html
Why does Harry not want to be identified on the birth certificate as the father? Duke of Sussex His Royal Highness is not a legal name.
https://dam.tmz.com/document/5d/o/2021/06/24/5d3940c4ef4e4326a947aa3157c14317.pdf
Prince Harry's complaints about money just got even more distasteful
The self-obsessed Duke relies on his father's generosity in private while insulting him in public
ROBERT TAYLOR
24 June 2021 • 12:35pm
Robert Taylor
Is there anything more unseemly than rich people complaining about money?
By any normal standards, Harry and Meghan are super wealthy. They have an estimated joint worth of nearly £10 million, and live in a luxury pad in California overlooking the Pacific. They mix with millionaires and billionaires.
Yet Harry saw fit to moan, in that blockbuster interview with Oprah, that his father had “literally” cut him off.
Where do you start with a whine like that? How should we respond to someone worth millions, most of it inherited, saying he should have even more?
Let’s keep in mind that Harry isn’t 19 anymore. He’s 36. His wife’s 39. These are not snotty youngsters. They’re mature adults. Frankly, I’d be ashamed to be living off my parents at that age, however much security I needed to pay for. There comes a time – and it shouldn’t take until 36 – when you need to buy your own dinner.
In any case, we now discover that Prince Charles did not actually cut Harry off at all – at least not financially. Newly released Clarence House records show that Charles gave the Sussexes and Cambridges a whopping £4.5 million during the last financial year.
Just think about that. It’s a huge lottery win. I’m pretty sure that if someone gave me a few million, my first reaction would not be to complain about it. But for Harry and Meghan, different rules obviously apply.
Do they realise just how spoiled it sounds? Do they ever consider that the average person in the UK earns less than 1% of that gift? And do they appreciate just how ungrateful it looks to accept a handout of that scale, and then publicly denigrate the man who gave it, saying he’d cut them off?
No wonder Prince Charles has hit back. In fact, for the second time in just over a week, Harry’s family has contradicted his claims. First we had the matter of Lilibet, and whether Harry had or hadn’t asked the Queen’s permission to use the name. And now this business about cash gifts running to millions.
Given how rare it is for the Palace to weigh in on anything at all, particularly when it’s about family, this all looks terrible for Harry and Meghan. Once again, their attempts at PR have backfired, this time with an even louder bang.
How different it could all have been. Before all these Oprah and California shenanigans, I have two abiding memories of Harry. The first is of that forlorn, grieving 12-year-old walking behind his mother’s coffin. The second is of the adoration in his eyes as he saw Meghan, on Prince Charles’ arm, walking down the aisle towards him. A wedding and a funeral. Both times, I admit to dabbing my eyes, and I’m sure millions of Britons did the same.
We wanted the best for Harry. That’s why no fewer than 30 million of us watched that wedding, wishing him and Meghan a long, happy marriage. Many of us welcomed the new and diverse Royal image, so much so that, even when they left for America, they went with good wishes and sympathy.
But Harry’s attitude since he arrived in LA has eaten up that credit and warmth. He has belittled his own family at a time of grief, made questionable claims, and accused one member of his family of racism – a particularly low blow. And at a time of so much global suffering, he has portrayed himself and Meghan as uniquely victimised.
Harry could have remained silent and dignified. In doing so he would have gained our respect. Instead, he has appeared self-obsessed, disloyal and spoiled. He needs to get a grip.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/24/prince-harrys-complaints-money-just-got-even-distasteful/
Thanks for the link to the Jan Moir article - Wicked!
In May 2019 DM reported (italics added)
"Changes that the Duke of Cambridge and Duke of Sussex are said to have made to the design of a statue of Princess Diana are delaying its completion and display in Kensington Gardens."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7070649/amp/Diana-statue-set-display-Kensington-commemorate-20-years-death-delayed.html#aoh=16245746435704&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s
It makes no sense to me to say a May 2018 wedding and an autumn 2019/January 2020 Megxit delayed unveiling a statue that was finished so much earlier. I call BS.
Did you notice the little added 'extra' under Jan's article?
I can’t get too upset about the Sussexes’ registration of domain names such as lilibet diana.com. Far be it from me to be the voice of reason on this subject, but surely it is standard practice for celebrities to do this? Not because they want to launch a range of cash-in toys called My Little Windsor Pony or Lilibet’s Dolly Tea Set — but by claiming the name first they prevent others from doing so. Or am I being naive? Please send all replies to Jans-A-Mug.co.uk.
Love her sense of humour! 😆
When comments are on full moderation, unfortunately you won't be able to receive any emails except posts from moderators and Nutty.
Thank you for this list.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marieclaire.co.uk/royal-news/meghan-markle-archie-birth-certificate-change-727453/amp
I hope you're a believer of "better late than never." I am embarrassed by how long it took me but I finally finished rounding up the list of all "Paparazzi Podcast" episodes that feature the Sussexes I promised you. In my opinion, the most recent episode "L.A.'s Finest" which has a photographer that papped the BRF for a decade is worth the long listen.
Link to Paparazzi Podcast Website:
https://www.paparazzipodcast.com
From their website, you can choose which platform you want to use to listen to those episodes as podcasts.
They started uploading their podcasts as YT videos this year. I added the links below. The time stamps correspond to their Apple Podcasts so the YT times are about 1 minute or 2 off. Enjoy!
1. Royal Treatment
Date: Jan 21, 2020
Time Stamp: 18:46 - 31:15
Summary: They discuss H&M leaving the BRF and compare it to what happens to new Hollywood stars. Then they go into the logistics of papping in Canada and what the situation was like around H&M.
2. Flat Tire
Date: May 25, 2020
Time Stamp: 31:00 - 38:55
Summary: They discuss the backyard pics of H&M at Tyler Perry's home, the area around the mansion, and how the pics are illegal.
3. Reek
Date: Jan 6, 2021
Time Stamp: 13:55 - 20:10
YT Link: https://youtu.be/vmdkvHgsdgw
Summary: They discuss H&M's Christmas card and their upcoming Spotify podcast.
4. Grinding Gears
Date: Feb 22, 2021
Time Stamp: 12:05 - 19:25
YT Link: https://youtu.be/TZjKZRaz48c
Summary: They discuss M winning her Letter case and then how they followed it up with their pregnancy announcement and news of the Oprah interview. They say H has gone from doing fun things to just following M around.
5. Cause-and-Effect
Date: Mar 8, 2021
Time Stamp: 26:50 - 38:40
YT Link: https://youtu.be/2jrLItRsw78
Summary: The hosts discuss why H blaming the paps for the death of Diana is wrong. They mention expecting the Oprah interview to be scripted like their Spotify podcast.
6. Stronger than Yesterday
Date: Mar 15, 2021
Time Stamp: 18:14 - 40:40
YT: https://youtu.be/ZwdY9T-aKA4
Summary: They discuss the Oprah interview. The British host admits after watching it he went from despising them to having sympathy. He also says based on his connections he believes Prince William is the one who made the skin color remark because his friend allegedly had a racist experience with him. The American host expresses some skepticism about what M said in the interview.
7. L.A.'s Finest
Date: May 31, 2021
Time Stamp: 2:40 - 49:35
YT Link: https://youtu.be/Z3qXm1yzegY
Summary: A pap that covered the BRF for 10 years compares his job in the U.K. with the U.S. He goes into detail about the laws and logistics of how protected the Royals are in the U.K. If you cannot listen to all of it, you should listen to 37:21- 40:00 for the story of how the Royals unlawfully stopped him and his partner from getting pictures of them for 8 months. He also describes how papping the Obamas differed from the BRF because of how Secret Service work compared to the Metro Police. I found this episode fascinating!
Duke of Wetwang, rather slick
Rachel Ramsbottom has a ring to it..
By the way, thank you Nutties for all the kindness and support. I hope everyone's having a good week and has a better weekend.
As your fellow American, AGREE on the Britney vs MM!
I don't know who is pretending they are supposed to be honored to carry that name but we all know good & well we laughed our asses off when she drudged up the collection of all three.
Good & goddamn well we laughed.
So who is really honestly legitimately questioning why WHY WHY how dare they NOT want Dumbarton?
REALLY?? Do any of you who laughed before condemn them for not wanting it?
Seems rather fake to me, I'd rather just laugh and say HA HA THAT'S RIGHT - THE QUEEN SAYS FUCK YOU TOO BUT FIRST.