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Open Post: A Change in Direction

We have had a lot of discussion about the Prince Andrew updates.  

The main topic of the blog is the couple in Montecito but let us talk about this for a while.  

Points to consider that this is not just about his case or how it impacts his family short or long term.  

Or how it will likely continue to be brought up through out the Jubilee (so not looking forward to that amid the festivities).  

The Queen may be somewhat funding part of this (as the ski chalet has not sold yet apparently).  But she did something similar for Prince Charles when he was cash short and needed to pay to Diana a boatload of money for the divorce.  So there is some precedence there. 

Some things take time.  These kinds of agreements are highly technical as legal documents so they probably took time to draft on their own.  And, now the will may have changed as well to accommodate that she may not be around when she is to be repaid.  As well as she, or any of the players, is not likely to have that amount of cash on hand. 

The Queen, either directly/indirectly or no doubt consulting with other main players, is appearing to line up her ducks and leaving nothing to chance for her Jubilee or when she passes.  

How could this all impact the Montecito Duo?  

Less cash available?  

Is it possible that long term plans were to really move so there could be some sort of political run  where it would be a soft entry to start the new life?  That takes cash, to get out of the house (if it really is theirs), get into a new one and then to fund the campaign.  

Some sort of warning shot across the bow about how we handle even family who create long term problems or their problems threaten us?

Or something else?


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Elsbeth1847 said…
What I'm wondering about is:

Virginia, she's now doing the happy I've got victory because I'm going to get a lot of cash dance.

She has been mentioned as acting in procurement of other women as she said was done to her.

Before, she wasn't worth suing for this as she didn't have money. With this big win (even with what her lawyer takes), will other lawyers look at her as worth pursing?
I personally think Andrew will be made to keep out of public view forevermore. This will be particularly enforced if and when Charles is King. 🥴 I don’t think either Bea or Eugenie will get a look in on much of a royal life when he is either. 😕

It’s already been said in the British press that Andrew will have no part in the upcoming Jubilee celebrations. He could even have his Ducal title stripped by then. Maggot and Mole are the two biggest stains on the UK and Monarchy, 😟

@Embre

Reply for the last blog post…

Giuffre’s reputation was already sullied and her credibility was already extremely questionable. The fact she accepted yet another payout just enforced the above view of her by many. 🤔 I like Mr. Rosas and could definitely see where and how he was trying to warn others.
snarkyatherbest said…
VG has gotten a lot of pay outs or so her lawyer said. the names and settlements have been sealed. andrew didn’t play ball that’s why we know about it. wonder how much she really made. Boies her lawyer knows where all the bodies are buried so to speak. then again there are rumors that Ghislane Maxwell maybe talking to get her sentence reduced. perhaps she had some info that helped andrew to come to a settlement. curious how the original famed pic of PA and VG was in the middle of this. now did VG get $ or was it a donation to women’s causes i thought it was the latter. if so she and her lawyer know there is info out there that maybe won’t support her pursuing these cases. but as i said she may have already gotten a bunch of $ in the last 5 -7 years
snarkyatherbest said…
interesting we are seeing the press already pivoting to the prince’s trust pay for honors allegations charles is gonna have his own stain. wonder how much andrew knows (from mom or friendly courtiers) and how much he is helping to push himself off the front pages and charles back on. he has nothing to lose at this point so why not make it uncomfortable for his bro
OCGal said…
@Meowwww, I agree with your comment at the end of the last post…I also suspect that Mrs Dollar is angling for another baby and this is why she is staying well out of the public eye.

When a baby appears in Monte$hit$how she can falsely claim she was “heavily pregnant” and didn’t want all the press at Super Bowl to be on her, so she stayed away. Another fake pregnancy and new vinyl infant doll would also give her an excuse to not attend any events this year in U.K. A new fake child appearing at an opportune time would allow her to save face (she thinks) with the world at large.

The new vinyl doll would likely be chosen to be a boy doll, and the name would be Philip Charles, or Charles Philip. Gotta curry favor and hope for big inheritance and continuing secret $ gifts from those holding the money bags, dontcha know.
Mel said…
Waiting for Mm to again say she was horrified by PA.

Or maybe she won't be so quick to jump on that bandwagon this time lest more questions get asked about just exactly how she knew him.



According to a report by The Telegraph, Meghan is “horrified by the manner in which the Duke of York dismissed allegations that he had sex with a teenager.”

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a29895631/meghan-markle-horrified-prince-andrew-teenage-sex-allegations/
Maneki Neko said…
In the DM:

Prince Andrew's ex Lady Victoria Hervey calls Virginia Giuffre a 'scam artist' who 'settled very fast' as she shares another strangely edited version of THAT notorious photo with the Duke showing Ghislaine Maxwell alone

I don't normally see photoshopping in every H/*/A photo but I must say this photo showing Ghislaine Maxwell standing alone looks a bit suspicious. Her right hand, visible on the 'original'photo, seems to have disappeared. It looks like A and VG have been edited out rather than in as per Victoria Hervey's comments. VG claims she's not in possession of the original photo, which is convenient. What do other Nutties think?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10518737/Prince-Andrews-ex-Lady-Victoria-Hervey-calls-Virginia-Roberts-scam-artist.html
@GWAH - Thank you for your kind comment about how I was treated by my penfriend & family.

I rather think they were Breton Nationalists, collaborators with the Third Reich on the grounds that `my enemy's enemy is my friend', who had slithered off to Parisian anonymity at the end of the war. They had no love for the British and I was only there on sufferance. Didn't encounter ang wonderful cuisine, rather more a case of being kept on short commons.

I was 16 at the time.
OCGal said…
@abbyh asked, in reference to how the Montecito duo might view Prince Andrew’s multi million dollar payout to Virginia Giuffre: “The Queen may be somewhat funding part of this (as the ski chalet has not sold yet apparently)… So there is some precedence there.”

My answer: the Montecito duo will be enraged at the belief that HMTQ is saving Prince Andrew’s hide by agreeing to pay Virginia. It doesn’t matter if it is true, or not.

Megsie and Hazbeen’s default setting is entitlement, and a desire to punish anyone who has gotten a lucky break that these two think should belong solely to themselves.

Megsie and Hazbeen will again press for bigger and more frequent payments from daddy Charles and granny Lilibet, saying “hey, Andrew was in a tight spot and you helped him. We’re in a tight spot, so pony up money for us, too.”

I may be in the minority here, but I still am confident that Charles is secretly paying his son tons of money in order to enable him, and if TBW happens to benefit from the secret fund, so be it. Funneling millions to those two is the lesser of two evils.

I bet The Dollar duo are watching carefully and noting that HMTQ has not stripped Andrew of his titles, particularly ‘Duke of York’. If the time comes that the dukedom is stripped from Andrew, then the Duke and Duchess of Suxxxxx will steel themselves for a fight in the courts to retain their own, undeserved, ill-gotten titles.

This is all my conjecture, of course, but I bet I’m pretty much on the mark.
@Maneki Neko

I saw the article and saw the photos. Ghislaine’s hands are in a slightly different position in the 2 photos. Whilst Giuffre’s pose is the same in both but minus Andrew in one. Victoria said there was a body double for Andrew. Ghislaine pose suggests to me there were 2 photos taken a few minutes apart, hence the slight change of pose. 🤔

I’m suspicious of what Victoria says, but I do think there’s been some photoshopping, I do think Giuffre’s was photoshopped into the photo. Lady C said it was photoshopped a while back. 😟
OCGal says, If the time comes that the dukedom is stripped from Andrew, then the Duke and Duchess of Suxxxxx will steel themselves for a fight in the courts to retain their own, undeserved, ill-gotten titles.

If the Queen and Parliament revoke Andrew’s ducal title, there’s nothing a court can do to prevent ducal tithe being removed from Mole. Maggot and Mole would be left with the titles of Prince and Princess Henry. 🥴
Enbrethiliel said…
I keep thinking of Trevor Coult's belief that Prince Andrew was facing the charges as a private citizen not because he was being punished by the Queen, but because they had discussed the best plan of action and he was finally taking responsibility for having let her down. In other words, Andrew is willing to fall on his sword so as not to ruin his mother's Platinum Jubilee celebrations. This settlement seems consistent with that. If he disappears from public life, that will be consistent with that, too.

And if that theory is true, it doesn't absolve him of lying down with dogs and getting up with fleas, but it does hint that there's a redeemable human being in there, somewhere.

Now I'll go out on a limb and ask those who have been royal watchers for longer than I have: If we didn't know anything about Andrew's private life and had to judge him only by his public conduct, would we think of him as a hardworking, dutiful senior royal whose lifetime of service to the Queen meant he deserved a spot on the balcony during her Jubilee?

In the light of last thread's call to forgive and forget when it comes to Camilla, I have to wonder whether anyone would extend the same grace to Andrew, who has decades of service on his sister-in-law. After all, the case is over. Nobody got justice, much less the truth, but sometimes life is like that. What does anyone gain by continuing to bring it up? (I mean, we don't continue to bring up Charles's friendship with Jimmy Saville any longer, because we know that it's simply pointless.)

My language may be satirical, but my questions are sincere. I see double standards being applied and I find that unfair.
lizzie said…
Anything is possible with H&M but I wouldn't have thought another baby was in the cards. Consistency isn't their strong suit but they did make a big deal about only having 2 per the conversation with Goodall (unlike W&K who are allegedly contributing to overpopulation) And they got that dumb award for only having 2.

Mostly though I'd think it's just not worth it. Either they don't already have two kids and faking it must be exhausting or they do have 2 young kids and even with household help that has to be exhausting mostly because of the need to hide their true selves from the help. NDAs are dandy but any credible gossip leaking about serious drug use around their kids or serious mental health breakdowns and whatever they are trying to sell loses value. Plus it's a matter of diminishing returns (in lots of ways). It is with any couple. With W&K there was the most interest in George as the heir, Charlotte as the girl, and Louis mostly because it took so long to name him. But maybe M's trying to copy A. Jolie or M. Farrow.
OCGal said…
@Raspberry Ruffle, you wrote “ If the Queen and Parliament revoke Andrew’s ducal title, there’s nothing a court can do to prevent ducal tithe being removed from Mole. Maggot and Mole would be left with the titles of Prince and Princess Henry.”

I agree wholeheartedly, however Megsie’s go-to action always seems to be SUE! SUE! SUE! And shockingly, she seems to win. Hazbeen goes along with whatever she wants to do, so I bet he would have no objection to her trying to use the court system to keep her titles.

Cheers!
LavenderLady said…
Yes emails to everyone around because Abby is going to be busy deleting my comments over the next 2.5 years to come, and more. I will be here. I will not be chased away. Unless Google tells me to go. Like the Canadian truckers. I can handle everything thrown at me...
OCGal said…
@lizzie, in reply to my wondering why Mrs Dollar hasn’t been seen or heard from in awhile, and my suspicion that she is industriously making arrangements for another baby to appear, you’ve expressed doubt that that’s the reason Mrs Dollar is in hiding.

You make good points, but you are reasoning as an honorable non-grifting human being. She, on the other hand, is always looking for an angle. She is also a proven liar.

I fear that when she finally reappears, she will assail us with a theatric tale of losing the apocryphal baby, while home alone, falling to the floor while heroically singing lullabies to both Aldi and Lidl. She comes up with tall tales that cannot be proven or refuted.

Occam’s razor suggests that her absence is actually due to additional plastic surgery healing time. She just won’t want to admit it.
@Embre,

I can give you a fairly short answer/opinion as why the British public are more forgiving towards Camilla and Charles, but it might not make much logical or moral sense. Charles is destined to be King, and Andrew is not so he’s expendable in that sense. 😳 It’s a bit more complicated than that, but that’s the size of it IMHO. 😟

As for Charles’ friendship with Jimmy Saville, I don’t think it was ever quite that. Charles knows an awful lot of people (because of charities and foundations etc) and he would’ve been in the dark about Saville like a lot of people were back then, so I’m passing over that one. 🤔😕
Enbrethiliel said…
@snarkyatherbest
wonder how much andrew knows (from mom or friendly courtiers) and how much he is helping to push himself off the front pages and charles back on. he has nothing to lose at this point so why not make it uncomfortable for his bro

It's the ones who have nothing to lose whom we should really watch out for.

I'm toying with a theory that the main reason Andrew's case blew up the way it did and got dragged out for so long was not because the public was organically horrified by the charges against him, but because Charles wanted to destroy his brother. Had Charles been willing to hush it up (for their mother's sake), it would have been. He wouldn't even have needed to play an active role; had he been totally apathetic, it would have died a natural death with the rest of the #metoo media cycle. And even those of us who can go down research rabbit holes as if they're water slides might not have found the story especially sinister. (Just one accuser, who was 17 at the time, and who became a procurer herself afterward? Not very scandalous.) But instead, we got a seven-year media circus . . . only to find at the end of it that we're all still at square one. What was even the point?

Basically, Andrew's only proven "crimes" are being friends with a pedophiles and procurers, letting two of them make a mockery of his mother's throne, and taking money for private meetings like some common celebrity. Even if he did knowingly sleep with underage girls, the only one who has accused him has so little credibility that he probably would have been vindicated in a trial. I'm sure all of this was clear to the BRF in 2015 -- or became clear very soon after. But Andrew was still made to take a huge fall. And for something he probably wasn't even guilty of but that was easiest to milk for outrage in the media.

For the record, I think the things Andrew did with his friends were unconscionable -- and although he was never publicly disloyal to his mother, he certainly did a lot behind the scenes to make one question his respect for her. He's has definitely received some karma in the last seven years. But I also think that Charles made a pawn out of Andrew, possibly to distract from his own unsavory relationships.

This is why I predict we will see more of Harry and Eugenie together in the future.
lizzie said…
@OCGal,

Yeah, I could see M producing a tall tale about yet another miscarriage. M isn't especially creative and does tend to repeat things. And that could get attention without having to deal with the hassle of a living kid.

If there was a payoff I wouldn't put it past M to pop out another kid. But 3 won't provide much more leverage than 2 especially if the family members with money never see the children. And kids are alot of trouble. If it worked, sure, but except for the small group of rabid fans who call him King Archie, even Archie doesn't seem to generate that much interest these days for the Devious Duo. Either people don't care, or they fall into the sick fan group, or like me, they have only passing thoughts such as wondering why the hair of a child that age changes color and texture so often.

But we'll see!
Enbrethiliel said…
@Lizzie
But maybe M's trying to copy A. Jolie or M. Farrow.

I think it was Hilary Baldwin who wanted to beat Angelina Jolie. They're already tied at six. Who wants to bet Hilary will go for seven?

This just doesn't seem *'s style, though. She doesn't even like sharing the spotlight with the husband who is the reason she even has a title. She might think her own children exist for her glory as much as any narcissist mother, but she seems to prefer a different sort of grift.
OCGal said…
@Embrethiliel said “It’s the ones who have nothing to lose whom we should really watch out for.”

Yikes! That was succinct, and scary, and gave me a shiver.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Raspberry Ruffle
Charles knows an awful lot of people (because of charities and foundations etc) and he would’ve been in the dark about Saville like a lot of people were back then, so I’m passing over that one. 🤔😕

I'm actually willing to give Charles the benefit of the doubt on this one.

My point in bringing it up is that if someone had wanted to destroy Charles in the media, it would have been easy to keep dragging out the Savile connection for years. Maybe get one of the victims who sued the BBC to reject the compensation scheme and to produce a doctored photo of herself as a minor with both Savile and Prince Charles. The Andrew story was allowed to rage like a forest fire even though it was almost as much of a nothingburger as this one. My theory that it happened that way because Charles was all for it is my current answer to the question: Cui bono?
Enbrethiliel said…
@Raspberry Ruffle

I'll add that I do see some logic in letting the monarch and the direct heirs get more tolerance than everybody else. The higher you are in the hierarchy, the more the entire country stands to be hurt if you must take the fall for something. But I also think such a system requires a popular, even beloved monarch -- and even then, it won't tolerate too many of these exceptions.
Ian's Girl said…
My opinion re Nutmeg and another baby is that she looks on the babies as insurance. Charles can claim he isn't giving Harry money, but does anyone doubt for one minute that he wouldn't help out with his grandchildren? If the sh*t were to really hit the fan for the grifters, neither The Queen or Charles is going to let the grandchildren become homeless. I doubt it occurs to Madame that she is far too old to have immediately cranked out one child, let alone 3.

And I think Andrew was singled out is because there are very famous and powerful American ( as well as other nationalities, but mainly American) men involved, and while Andrew is certainly famous, and has certainly been shamed, he was the one with the least to lose overall.

His station in life was an accident of birth and it isn't going to change. The other men stood to lose everything.

Not saying Andrew had any say in it, just that he was famous enough that the average Joe knew him, and could see that someone was punished for whatever it is they were supposed to have done wrong.

I firmly believe the US Govt is covering up an enormous amount of things here, and I don't believe Epstein killed himself.

My take on Andrew being forgiven is that he was once very well liked, but over the years he seems to have been involved with a lot of shady deals, and no one minds not seeing him any more.

I doubt anyone really thinks much about him, and so long as he remains off the Civil List he can probably live a perfectly comfortable life as long as TQ is still among us, and I'm guessing she'll make sure he doesn't want for much after she goes to be with Philip.

People may well be too busy nitpicking King Charles (George VIII?) to be bothered over Andrew. I fear Charles won't have an easy time as Monarch. I hope not, I'm fond of the old boy, but few seem to share my affection.
@Embre,

I will admit it’s a mess, the monarchy is a mess. The royal family seem to be oblivious to how others see their mindset and actions. It seems to be one thing after another… but there are different strands to the mess spreading over decades.

The case with Andrew has mostly to do with both the British and American press. Many are anti-monarchists. So they’ve whipped up the Giuffre’s story, embellished it and given it legs. Andrew has a history of fraternising with very unsavoury types of people, none of this has helped him. Charles isn’t nearly as bad….but has shown some dodgy decision making, I think he’s gullible and prone to flattery. 🤔

There’s always been rivalry between Andrew and Charles. After the death of Diana there was a lot of positive stories about Charles and drip of negative stories about his siblings. It got pretty bad, I can’t remember how or why but I’m sure it suddenly stopped (I did watch a documentary about it, but it’s too long ago now).

Prince Charles wants a smooth transition to being the next monarch, he wants to remove any possible tarnish. I don’t think he’s added to the mess for Andrew the media has done that…he just wants him out of public view. I’m sure if the public had the choice they’d probably opt for William for a fresh start, but it doesn’t work like that.

Can we believe the mud throwing between Charles and Andrew etc has stopped? No not really, but with the anti-monarchists agenda with the press right now, both in the UK and USA, stories won’t be glossed over. Once the spot light is on one member of the royal family, the whole family are put under the microscope; which they obviously hate! I think the anti-monarchists
press and its agenda is a very troublesome factor now. Maggot and Mole has given this even more legs, serious consideration should be undertaken to completely remove them from the royal family. 😕

I’m off for a typing break, I’m always on my phone so it gets tiring. Typos are rife with me anyhow, but they get worse if I’m here too long! 😂
LavenderLady said…
To get the latest on ThugGate please get yur emails. Hot off the press. LOL.
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Anonymous said…
Re: the photo of Virginia Giuffre, Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell. This information comes from the Independent via the DM:

A leaked email from convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell appears to confirm a notorious photograph of Prince Andrew with his accuser Virginia Giuffre is real, it’s reported.

In January 2015 her lawyer (Alan Dershowitz) is said to have raised the issue in a message asking: ‘Dear G. Do you know whether the photo of Andrew and virginia is real? You are in the background.’

Shortly after she replies: “It looks real. I think it is,” the paper reported.
lizzie said…
@Rebecca, Thanks for the photo info. Honestly though, GM's "confirmation" is not especially persuasive to me. "It looks real"? I have no idea, obviously, but it doesn't sound like to me she really does either. Clearly it "looks real" or it wouldn't have been circulating the way it has.
Mel said…
taking money for private meetings like some common celebrity
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The above was in reference to PA, however could equally be true for H.

H is worse, though, imo. Instead of private meetings for money, he goes on TV and trashes the family for money.
I'd rather he just did the private meetings.

Raspberry Ruffle said...
`As for Charles’ friendship with Jimmy Saville, I don’t think it was ever quite that.'

I completely agree.

It's not uncommon for people who have had something to do with Royals to think they are now `friends'. In so-doing, they are confusing `friendliness of manner' with `friendship', something much deeper.

As for JS, he always struck me a being downright creepy but that in itself is not a crime. It's what one does, and can be proved to have done, that constitutes a crime.
Mel said…
Whoever mentioned PC being behind some of the PA stuff...I wouldn't be surprised. At least in the beginning. Also agree that there other factors at play as time has gone on, so PC efforts maybe backfired.

He didn't intend for it to get so out of hand. He was just wanting to take PA down a notch in his his mother's eyes.

I don't know that PC started anything, but I could see him fanning the flames a bit.
Trying to take PA down a notch or two.


I could also see him fanning the flames with the Harkles at first, bigging them up to take the Cambridges down a notch where the press was concerned. Also maybe his mother.

But that backfired big time. Once again, he didn't intend for it to get so out of hand. He was just trying to help things along a little and it completely blew up.

I would kind of suspect that that all 3 houses were briefing against each other in the beginning. Each one trying to establish dominance.

But then the Harkles took it way too far. So then there was an alliance between the Queen and and PW, with PC joining them later.

It's been interesting. To be a fly on the wall...
Mel said…
Does anyone think that H's Superbowl stunt was as much as a flop as Mm's 40x40 stunt was? Or her Ellen stunt?

Not only failed, but will be a source of mockery for months if not years?
LavenderLady said…
@Mel,

I hate to say it, but Spare was pictured in the locker room with the owner of the winning team holding the trophy. In America that's quite a coup. Sure it's cringey but so many celebs would have loved to score that pic for the Instagram.

____

He's getting his ducks in a row for when he is officially single.

To quote the actor's line on "Versailles" the series, King Louie's brother says 'if you think it's hard being King, try being the King's brother". He was the spare. So Haz is going to do all he can to try to upstage his brother the future King; even make a pest of himself in HW and the celeb world.

The good news is, he's so thick that he can't see how he reeks of desperation. The wife has used him as her frontman and now she's in outer Siberia after the Camilla the Queen story hit.

Hmmmm. Very interesting stuff coming out.
Fifi LaRue said…
IMO PA made the payoff, or rather his mother made the payoff, to take the spotlight off Andrew during her Jubilee year. PA will be told to stay in the back ground for the remainder of the year, stay out of trouble, stay out of the news, stay out of financial trouble, and that goes for Fergie also.

So far there are two personnas non gratis in the UK, Andrew and Twit.
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Anonymous said…
And another piece of information about the photo of PA and VG (from the DM):

On a dramatic day of developments yesterday, it was claimed that Miss Roberts had lost the original copy of the image.

But that was disputed by her legal team, who said the hard copy was with the FBI and that Miss Roberts misplaced a CD containing a copy of the image.

LavenderLady said…
@Rebecca said,
I know that many of you, including Hikari, believe that * would have wanted to attend the Super Bowl and would not have been hanging out at home with Jack Brooksbank and the kids
___

Or if she was hanging out at home with Jack then maybe she was scheming to get into those rich trousers. Like the saying goes never let another woman into your home not even your sister. I wouldn't trust her if I was Eugenie.

I think it's bs she was there with Jack alone with the kids.
Mel said…
As an upper level CEO of a company, and especially as the chimpo, I would think it would be your job to gladhand before, after, and during the game.

Not to go hide out with your lame cousin someplace, hoping no one boos you or recognizes you.
Fifi LaRue said…
The owner of the LA Rams looked real pleased to have Twit holding the trophy. There were probably dozens of people in the Rams locker room hoping to get a little bit of glory rubbed off on themselves. Twit, and will always be a twit. Holding a trophy for a few seconds for a photo does not change that fact.

Mr. Brooksbank is the world-wide Brand Ambassador of Casamigos Tequila, a $1 billion and counting company. Maggot was nowhere near the Super Bowl game because she wasn't invited. There wasn't a seat for her. Think of all those rich celebrities Maggot didn't get to charm and hook with all her charms. Da*m! She must still be spitting tacks about not getting an invite.
Mr. Brooksbank was at the Super Bowl to glad hand the very, very wealthy. Casamigos Tequila is a lucrative investment. A bottle at Target goes for something like $37. Pretty outrageous for tequila, especially one with a promise not to give headaches nor hangovers, nor matter how much is imbibed.

BatterUp is a front for grifting, and they did not have Super Bowl tickets as give-aways. Smoke and mirrors.
Mr. Brooksbank provided a courtesy ticket for Twit, and not one for Twit's wife.

Considering that Granny bailed out PA, there doesn't seem to be any motivation for Princess Eugenie to stick a knife in anyone's back, especially Granny or Uncle Charles, or Cousin William.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Raspberry Ruffle

I see your point that I am perhaps giving Prince Charles too much credit in this area. He likes to make himself look good by making others look bad, and he is famously resentful of his younger brother. But this getting dragged out for seven years is definitely more extreme than his usual style, even if he did do some fanning of the flames at the beginning.

And I admit that I tend to discount anti-monarchist angles in reporting. Among all the royal bloggers I follow on Tumblr, only one wants the UK to become a republic in her lifetime . . . and yet she makes a hobby out of blogging about the BRF! The most I was ever exposed to this angle was when * was trying her best to paint the BRF as racist, and even then it just seemed like woke outrage, interchangeable with all the other stories blown up in the US media.
@Embre

I don’t think Charles has fanned the flames with Andrew, not with this case because it’s affecting the whole monarchy which he does care about and wants to protect. It’s the press that have given the story legs and more. Charles just wants the mess tided up. 😕Charles has got Fawcett the Fence to worry about now. A man he should have disposed of and completely distanced himself from years ago. 😟

We’ve had storm Dudley loom for most of yesterday and last night, tonight going into tomorrow we have storm Eunice. We are warned of winds up to 100 mph, these are extremely high winds for the UK. I’ve got to go and prep the garden etc and make we don’t have any potential flying missiles. 😟
CatEyes said…
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CatEyes said…
Here'a a bigger portion of the quoted article'

"According to documents filed Tuesday in New York by David Boies, Giuffre's attorney, the two parties will file a dismissal upon Giuffre's receipt of the settlement, the amount of which is not being disclosed. The document also stated that Prince Andrew, 61, intends to make a "substantial donation" to Giuffre's charity in support of victims' rights.

The Telegraph reports that the total amount is upwards of $16 million and includes a contribution from the monarch from her private Duchy of Lancaster estate, which means it wouldn't be coming from taxpayers' money."
Maneki Neko said…
OT

@Wild Boar

Are you all right where you are? Storm Eunice will hit your part of the country tomorrow if it hasn't already.
Fifi LaRue said…
Prince Andrew's pledge to support sexual abuse victims, and making a donation to VG's charities, is Andrew's desperate attempts to stay relevant as a Royal. Andrew wants to continue to be in the public eye, but it's highly doubtful that Charles will let that continue. William, who detests Andrew, will never allow a public role for Andrew.

Fergie's will have to rein in her spending, because the Queen's bailout of Andrew is a one and done.
snarkyatherbest said…
So the articles I read talked about donating to VG's charity

here's the link

https://www.speakoutactreclaim.org/about-us

only two board members (hmmmm, thats certainly not best practices). and several lawfirms are their partners

no link to financial (shades of Archwell)

and her partner is a communications expert who was hired by yes Monica Lewinsky on cyberbullying or and her partner is also doing work about covid vaccines

why do i think there is a whole bunch of funny business on both sides of this.

Enbrethiliel said…
The Body Language Guy's latest: How Camilla Is Making Meghan’s Blood BOIL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1D0UwBOgcw

I didn't expect what he said our takeaway should be, which was: Focus only on the things that you can control.

Mr. Rosas says that Camilla knew she had no control over public perception or the feelings of individual members of the family she was marrying into. But she had full control of what kind of work she would do as a royal and how much of it to do. And it was by concentrating on the latter that she was able to change public perception and the feelings of her new family members anyway!

I think this is one of his best videos. He gives good advice in general, but there seemed to be an extra dollop of compassion in this one. Although Mr. Rosas has carved out a great niche for himself by satirizing *, I think he feels sorry for her, too, and wants her to do better and be happier. I'm moved by his belief that if * had the same kind of focus that Camilla does, in whichever area of the world she knows she can be (what's that word she likes?) impactful, she could still get people to change their minds about her. Not everyone, of course, but perhaps more than any of us would wager.
DesignDoctor said…
@Enbre
* does not have the self-awareness or humility to turn public perception about her around by working hard and serving others,IMO.
I agree with your analysis of how Camilla has succeeded at that, but Camilla is most certainly not a narcissist.
snarkyatherbest said…
Enbre and DesignDoctor - too bad Charles cant use Camilla's template. If he didnt get his fingers into all the PA stuff and his own push for PR (including the Camilla announcement overshadowing the Queen's Jubilee) and of course the pay for honors thing, maybe people would have a better opinion of him. This pay for honors thing is very unseemly and possibly illegal; certainly unethical if true. Then again, its all good training for PW as he looks at his father's mistakes, his uncle's mistakes, and his brother's mistakes and hopefully will learn from it.

As for the mrs, i agree, she doesnt know how to work hard (although maybe she did in those missing years 😉) and doesnt have the humility to admit doing wrong. She gains sympathy from "miscarriages" "racists remarks" and "pap chasing" oh and occasionally baking an olive cake for some random charity
Enbrethiliel said…
@DesignDoctor

All credit to Jesus Enrique Rosas. It was his analysis.

I know that * is a narcissist, as does everyone in our community. But Mr. Rosas's video had such a powerful spirit of generosity and compassion for all of his viewers that I felt I could extend some of that in *'s direction as well.
Enbrethiliel said…
@snarkyatherbest
She gains sympathy from "miscarriages" "racists remarks" and "pap chasing" oh and occasionally baking an olive cake for some random charity

I missed the olive cake! I'm glad that * is at least breaking out of her "banana messaging" template!

More seriously, I like your summary of her own "technique" of changing public perception. Not only did none of them really work, but they all backfired. She thought it would be easier to make us feel sorry for her, but the reality is that no one likes a complainer. Camilla took a longer, harder road, and many years later she has respect . . . and dare I say it . . . also love.
Hikari said…
DesignDoc,

* does not have the self-awareness or humility to turn public perception about her around by working hard and serving others,IMO.
I agree with your analysis of how Camilla has succeeded at that, but Camilla is most certainly not a narcissist.


Watching Jesus' video is on my lunchtime docket today.

Mr. Rosas is a better person than I maybe, if he is capable of feeling compassion for *. Or Harry. But if I dig reaaaallly deep, I can acknowledge that one must feel a bit sorry for two individuals whose profound personality and mental dysfunctions were hard-wired in childhood. These are two very sick, very bleeped up people who are incapable of change or personal growth, in my opinion. They make a twisted sort of sense together because they are two peas in a pod. Despite vastly different circumstances in their respective upbringings, both were raised with similar negative influences viz. the parenting they received, or didn't receive and the kinds of negative behaviors that they were rewarded for, which only encouraged them to continue. Both seem to have developed with a complete lack of moral compass and value the most shallow, materialistic and self-serving of lives.

It's too late to go back and rewind their childhoods, more's the pity. They are what they are and will continue to be so. The question is . . will they continue to get attention and perks and free passes for being what they are? Imagine being a person without a single redeeming quality. *That* is a tragedy worth a tiny bit of pity. They create their own private hell, because they can never escape being themselves. They both think that if they just get 'enough'--money, adulation, power, photo spreads, titles, celebrity friends, the stuff that money can buy--they will finally 'arrive' and be blissfully happy in themselves. They will never find what they seek, because discontent is their default setting. They are corrupted and therefore corrupt everything they touch.

Camilla has done admirably since she became Duchess of Cornwall. She really could not have done more or better in her conduct within the Firm. HM has even been won over, and I suppose she and Catherine may have bonded a bit over their similar situations--both commoners who married in, both deemed 'not good enough' for the blood royals they married, though Camilla has had it worse. She has got to be the opposite of a narcissist after having been by Charles's side officially and non-officially for most of the last 50 years. There's really only room for one narcissist in a relationship.
O/T
We UK Nutties (and any Irish ones as well) certainly need to batten down the hatches tonight. Ever since I encountered 100mph winds in Iceland when camping (couldn't stand up, have to throw oneself on the ground or be knocked down - like being under fire- we ended up trying to get some sleep in a sheep scrape as the tents were destroyed) I've hated high winds. Apparently, we get most tornadoes (little ones) near Basingstoke, of all places!

@Raspberry Ruffle - I hope you've come through Dudley OK? Eunice sounds like an even more severe test.

@Maneki Neko -Thank you for asking, so far so good.

We're within sight of the sea, on the `sheltered' side of Dartmoor, but about half a mile inland and 100'or more up. I expect the tide gates are closed already. It's sheltered compared with Cornwall and N. Devon. No wind at the moment but we've had rain in the air. The heaviest seas are when it's an easterly as it's the longest `fetch' of wind over water.

There's a large Austrian Pine (P nigra) in the garden which, should it fall, God forbid, ought just to miss the house. It's had getting on for 100 years of being stressed by by the storms so its roots and trunk should be used to it by now. It's inspected and `dead-wooded' regularly and the chap from the council reminded me that it's a species that `frays out' from the ends of the branches rather than doing anything too dramatic - I hope.

Even so, I think we'll sleep in a room on the east side of the house tonight...

Stay safe, Nutties.
Enbrethiliel said…
I published my last comment too soon. What I should have added was:

@Snarky, you are also 100% right about Prince Charles. He has done a lot of good himself as Prince of Wales and doesn't get half the credit he probably deserves. But he gets envious of other family members so easily and has such a sneaky side when it comes to getting respect. I think that people pick up on this and it simply turns them off.

The corollary to Mr. Rosas's latest advice seems to be that the best way to get respect is to stop courting it.
@WBBM

O/T

Glad to hear you’re fine, we’re okay so far. I had a restless night but only a new fence panel come out…again! 🥴By the time Eunice hits we’ve already had Dudley for two days, I’m a bit worried its force has already loosened a lot of trees etc. We’ve checked and prepped what we can, and just have to hope. Stay safe in the South West and hope everyone comes out unscathed. ❤️

I’m just off to listen to Lady C’s latest video. 😃
gfbcpa said…
This is a link to an article in the Daily mail. A woman from Georgia wore a fake baby bump to work in order to get 7 weeks of paid maternity leave ($15,000) from her job. She was caught when one of her co-workers caught on and reported her. Gee, I wonder where she got that idea from?

She faces up to 10 years in prison for fraud and a $100,000 fine.
gfbcpa said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10524033/Georgia-State-official-faked-pregnancy-wore-phoney-bump-paid-maternity-leave.html

Here is the link.
snarkyatherbest said…
WBBM - stay safe - and pray; We were hit with straight line 100 mph winds two years ago and have a property full of beautiful old trees. a few fell but like a gentle hand guided them just missed damaging anything but other trees

So where is the mrs? is shy playing a coy game so we suddenly see her later or is she busy figuring out her next grift. Or has she been papped and no one is playing ball and buying the pics/publishing the pics. Its almost like there is a media lock on anything related to her. By her choice or by others hmmmmmmm

Hikari said…
@Snarky

Maybe her latest round of plastic surgery was botched. My, what a shame that would be.
snarkyatherbest said…
Hikari - oh that would be good - she was going in for the diana nose and bond structure and she got joan rivers, later years
OCGal said…
@gfbcpa, thank you so much for alerting us to the Daily Mail article (and link) about the “… woman from Georgia wore a fake baby bump to work in order to get 7 weeks of paid maternity leave ($15,000) from her job.” Wow, amazing nerve. I loved the discreet connection you made about where she got the idea from. Hahahaha!
LavenderLady said…
@Enbre said,
The corollary to Mr. Rosas's latest advice seems to be that the best way to get respect is to stop courting it.

___

I agree 100%. I would add popularity to this statement as well. I always told my children as they grew into adulthood there is no peer pressure when you are an adult.

Often times we sacrifice the respect of the collective when we take a strong stand on a hot issue. Camilla played the long game exceptionally well and she won her prize. She was in no position to actively denounce things as according to her conscience and her faith.

For us nobodies, I see it as necessary to speak my truth and hold my ground. It is in my DNA, And in these modern times, I am allowed the privilege. Therefore I will take it. It's been a long time in coming...

I wish safety for those experiencing scary weather. The One we love silences the stormy seas. This is always my comfort.
DesignDoctor said…
@gfbcpa
Thank you for posting the story about the woman who faked a pregnancy. Very informative. How in the world did she think she could get away with that fraud????
Enbrethiliel said…
@DesignDoctor

Well someone with a higher public profile already got away with it!

A question for the Mail Online readers: Does the site frequently publish unusual stories like this? By "unusual," I mean that the people in the story have no connection to the UK and aren't even celebrities with British fans. If so, then this story might just be there to give a break from the usual fare. If not, then maybe the gloves are really coming off (empowered by the thought of the future Queen Camilla?) and the editors want us to think of another woman whose lower stomach had "come away" from her body and who had no medical records of pregnancy or delivery.
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
O/T
We UK Nutties (and any Irish ones as well) certainly need to batten down the hatches tonight. Ever since I encountered 100mph winds in Iceland when camping (couldn't stand up, have to throw oneself on the ground or be knocked down - like being under fire- we ended up trying to get some sleep in a sheep scrape as the tents were destroyed) I've hated high winds. Apparently, we get most tornadoes (little ones) near Basingstoke, of all places!


Oh, my gracious! Please take care! I'm keeping you in thoughts and prayers. Our trees here, due to the high water table, have a very shallow root system. (How shallow? A HUGE maple tree behind our sitting area went down a couple of weeks ago. The roots came up, too. There is a wide but shallow depression that I'll be able to fill with a wheelbarrow of dirt.) I envy you your trees with actual roots that go deep into the ground but 100 mph winds can still snap trees right off regardless of root systems. I hope your electricity doesn't go out but mine has never stayed on during high winds!

I'll be watching here anxiously until all y'all in the storm path check in as safe.

I've been viewing/listening to A Celebration of New Orleans Blues with Hugh Laurie. I'll probably let him sing me to sleep tonight (unless/until he wakes SwampMan).

Magatha Mistie said…

Friday Singalong 🎤
Apologies:Cliff Richard
Living Doll

Valley of the Dolls

Got himself a lying, stalking,
cheating, rorting
Livid Moll
Tries to do his best to please her
and appease her
Sili-con dolls
She’s got evil eyes, that emphasise
she has no soul
Got the one and only
flaming, flagrant Living Troll

Take a look at her wig
have a feel
Nothing about her is real
All her lies to debunk
Not in the trunk
way up in front on her knee
Got the one and only
faking, fatal Shilling Toll…

Magatha Mistie said…

@Swampie

I love Hugh Laurie and his
slightly sardonic smile, sexy😉
Magatha Mistie said…

@Enbreth

DM has UK, Aus, and US sites,
commingled.
I’m sure they enjoyed printing
that false pregnancy article!
Did we ever find out what that
Super-injunction entailed???
@Magatha -

`When I hear that littl bl**der
and compare him with Aida,

Nausea!'
Magatha Mistie said…

@Ian’s Girl

I’m fond of Charles too.
Erudite, sensitive, misunderstood.
I don’t see him as a conniving,
machiavellian type character.


I agree with what Magatha & Ian's Girl say about Charles.
@Magatha - not so much Joe Green as Wolf Mankovitz et al.

The only X film I sneaked into before I was 16 was Expresso Bongo - apparently the B-word was the reason for the X-rating! Dad's sister used to have her meat delivered by `Bert Rudge', as Harry Webb, prior to becoming Cliff Richard. He was so scared of their large German Shepherd that was loose in the garden he'd chuck the meat over the gate, with inevitable consequences, or so the family tradition has it.(All unsubstantiated rumour, of course, Cliff)

PS: it's relatively quiet here though the wind is accelerating. No overnight catastrophes.
Magatha Mistie said…

A grudge against Bert Rudge!!
Hahaha!!
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

Make that four of us - Charles is not without some faults (who is?) but I do have a soft spot for him.

OT - the wind's picking up here but it's fairly sunny. I hope things remain fairly quiet in your neck of the woods.
Teasmade said…
@ many of you: I too have always been a fan of Charles's, mainly for his environmental interests and sensitivity. And I was always Team Camilla because of the tragic original lost love aspect.

Agree not without faults etc but who among us . . .

When I got in last night (US Central time) I read that a power line had gone down and electrocuted 13 dogs in a kennel, not sure where. That would have been in the wee hours UK. The helplessness of those who can't prepare and don't know what's happening to them is always the most tragic for me. Best wishes to all.
And when I think of how he was ridiculed from childhood about his ears when he was only a child, with Press and public saying stuff like `Why don't they get his ears pinned back surgically? He looks ridiculous!' I felt really sorry for him.

I'm sure he must have looked happy at times but we weren't shown those photos, only the solemn/glum ones. Anne had the advantage of a mop of blonde curls.
@Teasmade asked about the electrocuted dogs:

Yes, it happened in N. Yorkshire, near Ampleforth - at a breeding kennels for working retrievers and cocker spaniels. There were 13 fatalities, between 6months and 7 years of age. Terribly sad.

There are many overhead powerlines still, especially in rural areas, despite efforts to get them put underground. I recall the macabre sight, on a local-authority housing estate near us, of a grey squirrel that had touched 2 of the 3 wires of an urban power supply simultaneously - the little corpse dangled there for months.
Maneki Neko said…
Here we go again:

Prince Harry begins High Court legal battle against Home Office: First hearing set to be held today over Duke of Sussex's demand for police protection when he and Meghan visit UK

Note the article says 'The Duke of Sussex wants to bring his children to visit from the US', with no mention of *. What makes him so special? It's not as if he'll take the tube from Heathrow and in any case he'll be staying at BP/Windsor etc where there is security. He's not as important as he thinks.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10526793/Prince-Harry-begins-High-Court-legal-battle-against-Home-Office.html
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@Teasmade

The 13 dogs electrocuted were in Ampleforth in North Yorkshire:

BBC News - Storm Dudley: Falling power line kills 13 dogs in North Yorkshire
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-60422957
LavenderLady said…
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/18/prince-harry-does-not-feel-safe-in-uk-lawyers-tell-high-court

Spare is quoted as saying the UK will always be his home.

Where's TBW? Is he worming his way back in? Dollars to donuts he succeeds. Are they starting to feel they need him back?

So many questions, so few real answers.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Maneki
Note the article says 'The Duke of Sussex wants to bring his children to visit from the US', with no mention of *.

@LavenderLady
Where's TBW? Is he worming his way back in?

He could only worm his way back in without her!

If they are separated, then this explains why she wasn't at the Superbowl. But in this case, she is probably doing the hoover of her life!

But I think even Harry would know that if he wanted back in, he'd get security for himself and not have to sue for it. That he's still going through with this crazy scheme that she probably cooked up to have an excuse not to go is the strongest argument that they're still together.

I'm currently on the fence.
What part of `private citizen' doesn't he understand?

After all, that's what he said he wanted and he has probably had it spelled out clearly to him many times already, in beautiful printing just in case he can't read joined-up writing.
LavenderLady said…
@Maneki,
He could only worm his way back in without her!

Oh, I sooo agree with this!

Great point about the security law suit. Meaning, it makes sense that he would get security but not her. But what about the "children"?
Unless they can provide proof that both children were `born of her body' they are at risk of `interfering with the succession' - which is a form of treason.
Teasmade said…
@WBBM: "can't read joined-up writing" LOL
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abbyh said…
There is something about the timing of this now re-hitting the news (after the settlement for PA).

I get it because he thinks he needs it to show up for the Jubilee (not that it may be settled by then - who knows considering how long it took for her trials to work their way through the court dockets).

I think all those who said or thought the lead up the Jubilee would now be smooth were - wrong. Or forgetful.

I feel sadness for her HM. She's been at this all so long, this is supposed to be a wonderful look back at all her hard work through the years. And some burr surfaces and takes away some of the shine. After that one is gone, then there is another.
LavenderLady said…
@WBBM,
I forgot about that! I agree with this and I think they are treasonous in several capacities.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exwHvTDmDEE

Trevor Coult on the C*nt's case against the Crown for protection
Amended post: ]

I should have added that Aldi and Lidl are indeed born of H$M's gonads, also that there is no b*stardy elsewhere in their line of descent from Charles and Diana. No turkey basters or other glassware involved, nor other individuals providing children for adoption.
lizzie said…
I believe questions are being raised about Andrew continuing to be listed as a Counselor of State. One article I saw (can't put my hands on it right this minute, sorry) said the Queen can't remove him but Parliament could. The article then said Harry is in the same position albeit for different reasons. I disagree. Harry should be and IMO can be removed because he is not "domiciled" in the UK. But then suddenly we have Harry claiming the UK will always be his home?
LavenderLady said…
@WBBM said,
I should have added that Aldi and Lidl are indeed born of H$M's gonad

Yes, I do believe this is a logical approach.
abbyh said…
LavenderLady

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Please stop posting permanently.

If you do, it will be deleted. Full Stop.



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Mel said…
Do we think this IPP thing could also be related to H's immigration status?

I suspect that there is some hinkiness as to just exactly how he got into the US.
Suspecting some lying went on there.

In addition to tax issues and wanting security paid for.
Maneki Neko said…
Re H and the police, apparently he has not offered to pay for police protection. This was in the comments but can't find it. One commenter mentioned Drunk Canary on YouTube and I had a look. This one was funny https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jz3n9Mrd4wo, also https://youtu.be/DqBd43uVEUA.

The DM article says 'They [lawyers for the Home Office] also vowed to make him fork out for 'excessive' legal costs caused by the case - which could total up to £400,000 - playing out through the High Court.' I'd say he needs to think about his options very carefully.

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@LavenderLady

He could only worm his way back in without her!
~~~~
Actually this was written by Enbrethiliel but I agree with the comment.
DesignDoctor said…
Back to the article in the DM published about the woman in Georgia, USA who faked the pregnancy and was caught. I wonder if it was picked up off the news wire and published as a way to raise readers' awareness that women have tried to successfully fake pregnancy have been caught, and how the observation of her false belly being separated--away from her body resulted in her being caught. Pictures of *"s odd baby bump, it's placement and slippage have been published in the media and viewed worldwide. Could this story have been placed to say, people do fake pregnancy and if they do, it's fraud and subject to prosecution? Open your eyes to what went on in the UK?
Este said…
The latest BS legal battle is predictable and meant to push the "we're under attack" "living hand to mouth" on the "hard scrabbled streets" of Montecito narrative. Lemme tell you, it ain't easy being a two-bit hustler in a town of con artists. I like to think the foul odors emanating from their home are the result of animal sacrifices to score an invite to the Obamas but it's probably just poetic justice. If they don't come protected, it might turn out like one of Justin Bieber parties, shots are fired as Mr and Mrs Monte-cheato beat a hasty retreat. Oh, I can already see it. Plus, it's another way to play the all-important victim card.
Anonymous said…
From the Telegraph

Prince Harry attacked for failing to show ‘respect’ in row over refusal of police protection
The Duke’s claim that he offered to pay for security on visits to the UK is challenged by the Government and described as ‘irrelevant’

The Duke of Sussex’s claim that he offered to pay for his own police protection has been challenged by the Government, as it accused him of not showing officials enough “respect”.

As the Duke began legal action against the Home Secretary for refusing to provide him with police protection, lawyers for the Government launched an extraordinary attack claiming his offers to reimburse the taxpayer were “irrelevant”.

Robert Palmer QC said that the Duke had “failed to afford the necessary measure of respect” to Priti Patel and a panel of experts from the police, Home Office and Royal household “as the expert, and the democratically accountable, decision-maker” on security and risk assessment.

In documents handed to London’s High Court, Mr Palmer also noted that the Duke still has a “form of exceptional status”, whereby he will be given protection depending on the reason for his visit.

However Shaheed Fatima, the Duke’s QC, said that the UK would “always be his home” and that he wanted to return to see family and friends, but did not feel safe.

Duke argues for protection 'on all occasions'

Prince Harry is challenging the February 2020 decision of the Executive Committee for the Protection of Royalty and Public Figures (Ravec) to withdraw the police protection that he and the Duchess of Sussex enjoyed as senior royals.

The Duke argues that the decision made by Ravec, comprised of representatives from the police, Home Office and Royal household, was wrong as “he falls within the immediate line of succession”.

In the case of “Queen on application of Duke of Sussex versus Secretary of State for the Home Office”, he says that he should have police protection “on all occasions” in the UK and that he has even offered to pay for it himself.

In a statement released on behalf of the Duke in January, it was claimed that he first offered to “pay personally for UK police protection” for himself and his family in January 2020 at Sandringham, but the offer was refused. The Duke did not state who the offer was made to.

However, the Government said that the offer - which is now in his witness statement - is “irrelevant”, as it “was notably not advanced to Ravec” when he visited in June 2021 or in any of the immediate correspondence which followed.

In any event, the court documents note, “personal protective security is not available on a privately financed basis” and Ravec does not make decisions on security on the basis of payment.
Maneki Neko said…
Correction: it wasn't a comment but a different article. I can't find it in the DM online but only on the app.

Prince Harry DIDN'T offer to pay for police protection before he took Government to court over the issue, Home Office says as it accuses him of not showing 'necessary respect' to Priti Patel and officials

Prince Harry did not offer to pay for police protection when he visited the UK, the High Court heard as the Duke's latest legal battle kicked off today.

The Home Office claimed his offer was 'notably not advanced' to the Royal and VIP Executive Committee (Ravec) when he came for the Diana statue unveiling in June.

Lawyers for the department also slammed the Duke for 'failing to afford the necessary measure of respect' to Home Secretary Priti Patel and Ravec.


He rubbed the Home Office up the wrong way and they won't bend. Their lawyers also slammed him - I bet he doesn't feel too clever now.
Anonymous said…
The Duke briefly returned from Los Angeles last year for the July 1 unveiling of the Diana, Princess of Wales memorial statue. The day before, on June 30, he met seriously ill children and young people at a party in Kew Gardens, west London. It has been alleged that his car was chased by photographers as he left.

Ms Fatima said that because of the security provided to him on that date, the “Duke does not feel safe when he is in the UK”.

“It goes without saying that he does want to come back to see family and friends and to continue to support the charities that are so close to his heart,” she said. "This is and always will be his home.”

However, Ms Fatima was rebuked by Mr Justice Swift, who told her: “Can you just focus on the issues in dispute?”

The Duke is arguing that his private protection team in the US does not have adequate jurisdiction abroad or access to UK intelligence information which is needed to keep his family safe.

But in his submissions, Mr Palmer told the court that his “form of exceptional status” meant that the Duke is already considered for personal police protection when he returns “with the precise arrangements being dependent on the reason for his presence in Great Britain”.

It suggests that were he attending on official business, rather than in a personal capacity, the Duke would likely receive police protection.

The Home Secretary also warned the Prince that they would seek to recover all cost to the public purse from the case, as they were “considerably in excess” of those typically awarded.

The Duke also submitted his arguments in the case to the court, but they were confidential and therefore not made available to the press or the public.

Ms Fatima had said that she wished to address why their arguments were being made in secret whilst the Home Office made its arguments publicly. However, she was told by the judge that it was a matter for the parties to decide what to release and that she should “move on”.

It was one of a number of heated exchanges between the judge and the QC. At one point, Mr Justice Swift noted: “Court proceedings are not a platform for people generally to tell their story, rather it is the forum for people to resolve legal disputes.”

The hearing, held largely behind closed doors, was to decide what material in the case should be withheld from the public on the grounds of national security.

Police do not reveal the details of personal protection, as it is feared that if public it could aid terrorists or “hostile actors” launching attacks on public figures.

The judge is due to give his ruling on what material can be released on due course.

The Duke’s bid for a review of the Home Office decision was filed in September and has not yet been granted or denied permission for a full hearing.
Anonymous said…
The Times has stated that Jack Brooksbank and Eugenie are staying with Twit and Twat during the Frieze Art Fair.
Elsbeth1847 said…
He keeps talking about how the UK is his home but is it really? Vacation home maybe but what is really still there for him? He's cut off family, friends, family job - what exactly does he have to come back to?

Deep in taxes so I'm thinking about all the tax implications of everything they have now done. (broohaha).

So, their tax situation is complicated (tactful) so they can't just toss data into some computer generated program to get an easy answer to keep nosy people from looking.

So this adds all kinds of people who all need to sign DNAs to be able to look at the return and the back up. This is assuming they know where all that paperwork is. it is accessible and is in some format to hand off to them.

Or all the money flowing here and there? Money from his trust (if it is still intact). Or from his family. Or where what money they did receive for all the deals exactly went.

Kids? claimed or no?

There are the tax returns for all the businesses as well. All those returns would have some complicated parts (with all the shuffling) so the costs for preparing all the returns will start to add up ... now. So what ever they might be saving in taxes may be losing large bites from the "profits" by paying accountants instead.
snarkyatherbest said…
Rebecca - since it is the Times i would think that is correct. Interesting they had the scoop and not via a sussex friendly platform
Longview said…


This comment published in the Daily Mail made a lot of sense to me, about why Hazmat is pursuing action in the UK courts to have security above his station (given he is no longer royal in name or conduct).

"Violet, Peak District, United Kingdom,

They need to fullfil their contract with Netflix and provide royal content and for that they must come here. But, big but, the royal family will not tolerate him filming them, recording them or being followed around by a film crew. (I'm not convinced they'd tolerate him at all, the public certainly don't.) So he's now got a big problem and he has to find a reasonable excuse for not filming and if he can make himself look like a victim at the same time, well, that's even better. Have to hand it to them, at least one of them has read Machiavelli."

Mel said…
Deep in taxes so I'm thinking about all the tax implications of everything they have now done. (broohaha).
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I read elsewhere that another possible component to all this is that if he is denied this protection, he will claim that he doesn't feel safe in the UK, and will then try to claim asylum in the US.

Something about if he claims asylum it impacts his tax and immigration status.
They think it's just a it's ruse to get out of paying taxes.

Thoughts?

It seems a little out there, but I wouldn't put anything past them either.
As I see it, the Home Sec is simply applying the law in observing the terms of the arrangements/agreement of the Sandringham Summit. Somewhere I read H seemed to be insinuating that the Home Sec had got the Law wrong.

Sorry chum, whatever you might think, I bet the RF made sure that the Sandringham Summit arrangements were legally binding. If you were too bone-headed not to have them explained in words of one syllable, possibly picked in poker work with a nice little ribbon so you can hang them on your wall next to your wedding vows, that's your look-out.
Elsbeth1847 said…
You gave me ideas Mel.

Looks like the IRS could get you coming or going and you are to pay taxes no matter what.

https://citizenpath.com/us-taxes-immigration-consequences/

If he pays UK taxes, that can impact his status. If you return to your home country while claiming asylum, it can impact your status.

Claiming asylum is specific as in it looks like you have to be coming in originally as a refugee (oh how are you being persecuted?) and you have to started residency stuff within the first year after entry. (Hmm dates unknown but certain that assorted news groups know them by memory)...

https://controller.richmond.edu/payroll/international/refugee-asylee.html

Specifics about the UK side

https://www.bdo.co.uk/en-gb/insights/tax/private-client/leaving-the-uk


What is clear (in the sea of IRS and residency requirements) is that you need a specific attorney (immigration) to guide you and that it is shockingly easy to suddenly lose your direction by doing something in error and get yourself booted out legally.

Sounds like popcorn time if there is such a play in action or about to start one.

lizzie said…
@Mel wrote:

"I read elsewhere that another possible component to all this is that if he is denied this protection, he will claim that he doesn't feel safe in the UK, and will then try to claim asylum in the US."

Anything is possible with H&M. I'm pretty sure the lawsuit isn't because H really wants to pay on-duty officers of Metro Police to act as his personal bodyguards. Even he would know they aren't for sale plus he's too cheap to pay anyway. But I'm not sure the asylum in the US idea makes any sense. Who knows what the US Gov't might do at any point for any reason. But a wealthy individual not having the bodyguards of his choice in his home country doesn't seem to fit the accepted reasons for asylum. Doesn't the granting of asylum usually require the person have a credible fear of persecution? Not a fear of clicking cameras or the publishing of uncompensated photos? I really don't know how asylum would benefit him anyway-- I guess he couldn't be deported until his hearing but I doubt he's on a list to be removed anyway. But I'm not a tax expert so maybe there could be a benefit there.

It could relate to Netflix and be a cover for his and Meghan's inability to deliver. Or just be more victimhood for both. For general PR or to try to make the RF look bad.
Fifi LaRue said…
IMO the Dollars need footage for their Netflix contract. It needs to look jazzy, and not boring, because right now all they have is boring. Being driven around in a Royal Mercedes or whatever car the Royals use, with flags attached to the hood, boot, and windows, and police officers buzzing around on motorcycles is what the Dollars really want. They want big and flashy.
The UK phrase about asylum is, IIRC, that it has to be a `well-founded fear of persecution'
Another point is that technically one is expected to claim asylum in the first safe country one arrives in, being choosey isn't a good look. (Let's not go any deeper into that...)

Why didn't they throw themselves onto the mercy of Canada?

If the rumour about their `asylum seeking' is `well-founded', they're going to be laughed out of court in any Western country they run to.

Is it just another case of them not caring whose tragic circumstances they try to devalue by claiming it for themselves, such as those who can't face living a moment longer or who flee for their lives as the Taliban approaches? Or are they thinking of those who flee murderous relatives who give `blood diamonds' as wedding gifts?

We used to use a word, now taboo, to describe economic immigrants who claim refugee status - `B*g*s'
They're lower than a snake's belly.
lizzie said…
@WBBM,

Whatever adjective applies (well-founded, credible, etc) how could H possibly make the case he is in danger of "persecution" in the UK? (With or without bodyguards) I'm not getting it or I don't understand the use of the term "persecution" in the context of refugees seeking asylum.

I thought refugees sought asylum because of fear of or actual persecution on the grounds of race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or a membership in a particular social group. I'm not sure where H could fit his whining. Being exposed to unpleasantness like photographers in public places, "mean" comments in the DM, or even hearing publics boos wouldn't seem to fit. And isn't the eventual big "reward" for asylum a green card? Something Harry already has? Or could easily get?
@Lizie:

Perhaps he believes the RF is out to do him in? Or we `persecute' him for his ridiculous, ignorant utterances?

HM Government not agreeing to what he demand - political persecution?

Afraid of extremist attack? Probably no greater than than that faced by the rest of us.

I wish he'd take to heart the maxim that it's better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth, thereby removing all doubt in the matter.

The only bright aspect of this is that he's not pleading for protection for wifey. Perhaps he's happy for terrorists to get her?
Girl with a Hat said…
the other thing about asylum is that you have to claim it immediately when you arrive on safe soil, not years later. And since * is American, I don't think she can claim asylum, and since Harry is married to *, I don't think he can either since partner status is already in effect
snarkyatherbest said…
i wonder if the mrs is showing him emails and other posts on social media that suggest violence against them. perhaps one where she changes her location setting on her computer so it looks like it’s coming from london. and while we know there are wishers pushing violence against the cambridge’s perhaps there are one or two posts somewhere that miraculously turn up suggesting violence against the sussexes. she may be a very busy bee when he’s not at the house.
snarkyatherbest said…
and remember he around the woke crowd and the butter up people. it’s your truth and the truth of you perceive a glance or a word that is then interpreted as violence. AOC recently said people that criticize her secretly want to “date” her. i’m beginning to think he truly believes he is under threat of extreme bodily harm she really has isolated him and fed his paranoia.
gfbcpa said…
https://heavy.com/news/robin-folsom/

The woman who faked the pregnancy in Georgia did it not once but TWICE !!!! The second time she got caught. Her co-workers became suspicious not only because of the shifting baby bump but because after she had supposedly given birth, she sent photos of her newborn to the co-workers. After examining the photos, they concluded that they were not photos of the same child, due to differences in skin tone. She didn't work for a private company, she worked for a state government agency so I guess they had to investigate instead of just shrugging it off and saying "Oh, that Robin !!!!"

To quote Yogi Berra "It's deja vu all over again!"
Enbrethiliel said…
If Harry is doing all of this just to have a better story for Netflix, he's failing in more ways than one. We're watching all of this in real time and in the light of his and *'s behavioral patterns that go back years. There's no way he can try to sell "the truth" of these events (according to whichever script he's following) and be believable. Even if he has already documented his struggle (ha) to get back to his home, that footage is probably as entertaining as watching paint dry. And one thing we all know for certain is: There isn't a single other member of the BRF who appears in it.
OKay said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...

"Another point is that technically one is expected to claim asylum in the first safe country one arrives in, being choosey isn't a good look. (Let's not go any deeper into that...)

Why didn't they throw themselves onto the mercy of Canada?"

Well, that's easy. They hadn't thought of it yet. :)
Enbrethiliel said…
@gfbcpa
The woman who faked the pregnancy in Georgia did it not once but TWICE !!!!

Like another woman we could name!

The freaking audacity, right? The parallels are actually pretty striking. I've said before that * isn't even original as grifters go, when it comes to ensnaring wealthy men; but even I'm kind of floored that there also appears to be a con artist's "template" for faking pregnancy and babies.
snarkyatherbest said…
the two fake pregnancies. i think the daily mail is trolling her
Enbrethiliel said…
Luckily for the Canadians, I think * has filed them under "one and done."
lizzie said…
@OKay said H probably hadn't thought of being a refugee when they were in Canada. (Good one!)

I'm not convinced he's going for "asylum" but if he is, maybe as a member of the Commonwealth Canada wasn't seen as a safe place. Their "friends" (mouthpieces) certainly spoke about their very narrow escape from Canada before the border closed in March 2020...Flying off in a huge private jet sent all the way from Atlanta..escaping with not much more than their clothes, wigs, shoes, jewelry, one kid, & two dogs. (Cue the closing music from The Sound of Music or the opening scenes from Casablanca)
Maneki Neko said…
@Fifi

IMO the Dollars need footage for their Netflix contract. It needs to look jazzy, and not boring, because right now all they have is boring.
~ ~ ~
It certainly is extremely boring and needs to look jazzy but usually it's only the Queen who rides in a car with the royal standard IIRC. Anyway, once the BRF are in a car it's very difficult to know who's inside. Even if H & * were in a convoy of cars, they'd be difficult to spot. Anyone interested in this pageantry can watch it on YouTube. I fail to see how they could muster interest for that sort of thing of this is what they're going for. It's not very original and could only work - if it does - as a one off. Back to the drawing board, Harkles.
Mind you, I can think of another kind of asylum these two would have qualified for, were we still in the 19th or 20th centuries.
Mel said…
escaping with not much more than their clothes, 
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Well, H was only allowed to bring his one grey suit with him.
Miggy said…
Right at the end of Lady C's latest video, she mentions H's memoir... and unless I'm mistaken, she drops a huge hint with regard to the 'alleged' use of colombian marching powder by a certain couple.

Also, Mickey has had her pups and they are real cuties. ♥
SirStinxAlot said…
What is this tripe about?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/prince-harry-renews-lease-frogmore-175807042.html
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SwampWoman said…
Thanks, Miggy, for the news about Mickey's puppies! I'm far more excited about seeing them than the mythical Sussex progeny. If that makes me a bad person, I would love to strut around the house in a black cape with the Imperial March playing loudly.
SwampWoman said…
I *think* that the busier a person is, the more they have to rely on subordinates for advice, scheduling, appearances...one person just can't hold every bit of knowledge about every situation that comes up.

Charles would not be the first person betrayed by subordinates or used for personal gain because of his position. People have lost fortunes investing in questionable schemes, machinery, or industry based on advice from a trusted source.

For every rich person wishing to buy influence, there are thousands of hungry wolves lying in wait to take a chunk of his or her flesh to feast on. (The lyrics of Material Girl come to mind.)
Elsbeth1847 said…
Good point SW.

Perhaps since the amount changed, PC might not have made the connection or was aware that the other did not go through to Sentebale. Or even if he did know it was not made, that doesn't mean that, with the rather silo effect of the various groups, that reason was mentioned to him or even any of his staff about why this did not happen.

Thanks Rebecca for the article.

I was reading the comments on the DM about the legal quest for security when visiting the UK. Very funny. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10526793/Prince-Harry-begins-High-Court-legal-battle-against-Home-Office.html

All I can think of: Good luck with that dude.
Henrietta said…
For once, a PH article that addresses how the Sussexes interact with the media.

EXCLUSIVE: How Prince Harry tried to keep his legal fight a secret https://mol.im/a/10531291
SwampWoman said…
Enbrethiliel said: I was reading the comments on the DM about the legal quest for security when visiting the UK. Very funny. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10526793/Prince-Harry-begins-High-Court-legal-battle-against-Home-Office.html

All I can think of: Good luck with that dude.


I've been contemplating why, if a certain somebody (or somebodies) "feel(s)" unsafe, he/they feel as though he/they are entitled to state-provided security. In the spare's case, he *used* to have security when he was on state business as a symbol of whatever it was that he was a symbol of. Now he'll be on vacation in a country no longer his own. (* was probably provided security to attempt to keep her from sexually assaulting any aged rich men that she might meet. It was cheaper than sending an ambulance along.)

Welcome to the side of town where no-one knows your name, dearie. You can have anything you want but YOU will be paying the bill, not the taxpayers, not granny.
Elsbeth1847 said…
Really excellent point about the empty seats around

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjlFR0ZdGcU
It seems that H is beginning to have serious regrets.

The true tragedy of the Duke of Windsor was that he was intellectually incapable to understand the core difference between the "king-emperor" and the private person "David".

When he had forced his younger brother Albert (George VI) to take care of "the heavy burden" of the kingship and the tedious and boring work that position demanded, he fully expected to come back to England and continue his life as the First Gentleman of the Kingdom and Empire with all the Pomp and Circumstance he knew so well, but this time totally free from the hated work parts.

He spent the rest of his life (36 years) out of England with a vacuous sad face without understanding what happened to this glorious plan.

Maybe H did not do family history in Eton...
Anonymous said…
H has renewed the lease on Frogmore Cottage. Lots of good comments in the Telegraph including this one:

From Harry’s actions against his family he appears to be utterly ruthless.
He writes a tell all about his family and then talks of serving the Queen, after having harmed her, laden her with stress as she mourns, having helped kill Prince Philip, stabbed Charles, where does his perfidy end?
And so I imagine this move by Harry, has motives that are in no one’s interests but his malevolent own. EDITED
Elsbeth1847 said…
Actually could that make sense?

He would have a "place" in the UK just in case he ever did come back. From there he could try to justify that he might be at risk since he would "live" in a known location where someone could sneak in and try to hurt him.

BLG did something about how they should not ever justify this even if he were to supposedly play for this as it would set some sort of president for him "needing this" period. From there, he could then claim that because he needs this, he should not have to pay for it at all.

He gets what he (or she) wants and at the price they want.
Enbrethiliel said…
The Body Language Guy's latest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_RNHcUap3M

How Harry LOST The "Sport Royal" Title To Catherine

Mr. Rosas's takeaway for the rest of us: Don't despair if you gave a bad first impression. First impressions may be important, but they are not everything. The first step to changing them is to remove your own focus from what you don't like about yourself and to move it to what you do like about yourself.

Again, excellent advice for Harry and * . . . if they could ever have the grace to take it. But I also wonder what an honest answer from both of them would be. I feel that Harry is too full of self-loathing to like anything about himself. And of course * is a narcissist.
There was a whisper a few days ago about moves to remove him from his Counsellor of State role (sorry, I've forgotten references/chapter & verse) on the grounds that he's no longer resident here.

It looks as if he needs a UK address to keep that designation. I reminds me of the old practice here of trying to claim residence in a parish (with an attractive church) rather than one's own (with a hideous church) in order to get married somewhere nice. It is said that grooms/brides-to-be could leave a suitcase of clothes in the care of a friend in the nice parish to claim they lived there. (Nowadays, the rules are less strict).


It's the converse of tax dodge of the stinking rich who claim to live abroad for tax purposes but are really resident here - they `leave' the UK, apparently, by taking off in their private jets, flying around just outside UK airspace for a bit overnight (10 minutes around midnight?), without landing anywhere else. Thus they come back the `next day'.
Miggy said…
FYI: Nutties.

There's a new YouTube channel from 'Keep NYC MegaTrash Free' called 'The Royal Grift'... where she will continue with her clever and hilarious animation videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8tfJ7gvPSk


abbyh said…
Just announced:

The Queen has covid.

(oh, dear me).
Maneki Neko said…
@Enbrethiliel said

Again, excellent advice for Harry and * . . . if they could ever have the grace to take it.
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Correct but not just the grace but first of all the intelligence to recognise negative traits need to be changed and the humility to want to effect the change. We know that intelligence, humility and grace are in short supply with H & *.
abbyh said…
Message received.

I'm not seeing anything on my side (I have missed things before though).

Could you please give more details about when, or it was after this post or between this and this so I can look some more at it?

Thanks
Natalier said…
Oh no. PLease pray for the Queen's quick recovery.
Natalier said…
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60453566

The Queen tests positive for Covid

The Queen has tested positive for Covid, Buckingham Palace has said.

The monarch is experiencing "mild cold-like symptoms" but expects to continue "light duties" at Windsor over the coming week, the palace said.

"She will continue to receive medical attention and will follow all the appropriate guidelines," it added in a statement.

The Queen, 95, had been in contact with her eldest son and heir, the Prince of Wales, who tested positive last week.

It is understood a number of people have tested positive at Windsor Castle, where the Queen resides.

The announcement comes weeks after the UK's longest reigning monarch reached her Platinum Jubilee of 70 years on 6 February.....................
abbyh said…
Not seeing it on my side.

Sorry. Retry?
snarkyatherbest said…
abbyh. oh no about the queen. charles is gonna get blamed. no pr can spin that away.

maybe harry needs the security because he told the mrs he’s flying back to the jubilee but really is plotting to leave her. she in a rendition of the old face turns up in london and starts stalking him. yeah i’d be scared too. orr even one of her sugars or even a scobie do himself. this could be legit 😉
Long live the Queen.

Will there be a response/reaction from Montecito? If anything, it'll be the former, not the latter.
Opus said…
The Queen has a cold.
lizzie said…
Poor Charles. Maybe the Queen did catch COVID from him but the BBC article also says a number of people at Windsor Castle have tested positive recently. And it was 12 days ago she saw Charles. If she really didn't test positive until today, just what variant is going around in the UK? Omicron usually has a shorter incubation period than that.
snarkyatherbest said…
so charles or at it again. saw a story that prince andrew has been sneaking out to visit the queen at night. trying to push the covid thing on him?

harry announcing he’s renewing frogmore. well that certainly makes him more vulnerable from a security perspective. like announcing when you are coming to town with flight number attached.

in all seriousness we are coming up on the anniversary of Prince Phillip’s death. this maybe weighing heavily on the queen.
lizzie said…
Yeah, IF H comes back to the UK everybody now knows Frogmore Cottage will reportedly be his home then. But everybody knows where Anne & her husband, Zara and her family, Peter and his daughters, Andrew, Bea and her family, Edward and Sophie and various cousins of the Queen live too. About the only "fuzzy" living conditions I know of are Eugenie's. But none of those folks have taxpayer-funded security 24/7. And Anne, Edward, and Sophie are actually working royals.
DesignDoctor said…
Prayers for a full recovery for The Queen.
SwampWoman said…
lizzie said...
Poor Charles. Maybe the Queen did catch COVID from him but the BBC article also says a number of people at Windsor Castle have tested positive recently. And it was 12 days ago she saw Charles. If she really didn't test positive until today, just what variant is going around in the UK? Omicron usually has a shorter incubation period than that.


One to three day incubation period here. It wasn't Charles. Most likely one of the Windsor castle staff. No doubt it will be used as a cudgel to further beat Charles.
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Maneki Neko said…

Saw this in Newzit in the Mirror:

Prince Harry has renewed the lease on his £2.4 million UK home - so he can deputise for the Queen if she falls ill.

First of all, how can he deputise if he's in the US? Unless he's planning on coming back permanently. Secondly, I'm sure Charles or William are more than up to the task should the Queen be too unwell to work. Thirdly, does he really think the Queen would let him deputise for her after the way he's treated her?

H might be 'domiciled' in the UK of he's got a lease on a property but in effect he resides in the US. Both he and Andrew should be removed as counsellors of state.
Girl with a Hat said…
Omid Scabies has been reported to the Metropolitan Police for defaming and lying about Yankee Wally. He said in a tweet that she was on the Met Police Fixated Threat List (stalkers). She rang up the Met immediately and they are looking into the tweet and Scabies. Scabies also called her a deranged criminal.

I wonder if that will make the front page of the DM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvOmZpLg0wY
Maneki Neko said…
@Girl with a Hat

Thanks for the info on Scabies reported to the Met. He has form as he got her banned from Twitter last year. What a despicable individual.

https://www.thesteepletimes.com/movers-shakers/yankee-wally-steeple-times/
SwampWoman said…
Sorry about the double post, y'all. I hit publish so I could go outside and get some work done, the blog page said that I had to hit refresh and try again, so I did.

I had no idea I had double posted until I came back inside. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
Dear Miggy, thank you so much for alerting us as follows

Miggy said…

There's a new YouTube channel from 'Keep NYC MegaTrash Free' called 'The Royal Grift'... where she will continue with her clever and hilarious animation videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8tfJ7gvPSk end quote

I watched it and loved the preview. I can't wait for more from her.

I noticed that 'Keep NY mega trash free' has churned out way more content in a short time than the nasty twosome from Montecito has presented the world since they signed the multi million dollar contracts (in 2020 I think) with Spotify and Netflix.

Those two grifters make me ill. Long live NuttyFlavorBlog, The Royal Grift, and all the other bloggers and vloggers who are clear-sighted enough to see and explicate for us the mega con the two Montecito grifters are pulling.

I simply am shocked the grotesque duo keep getting away with it. When will this charade end?
Girl with a Hat said…
@Miggy,

Keep NYC Mega Trash Free created a short clip for Yankee Wally of her chopping tomatoes in her kitchen. She/he did this because Wally was saying she was saving tomatoes to throw at the gruesome 2some if ever they set foot on Blighty's shores. Wally uses the clip as an introduction to her own videos now.
Elsbeth1847 said…
BLG, frog cott and * return?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkrbPz8xJEE
Fifi LaRue said…
The BLG ex.plained what was going on at the Super Bowl. Mrs. Dollar has been out of sight for quite a while, which usually signifies plastic surgery. She's been gone so long that her plastic surgery must have been botched. I wonder how bad she looks, and if the damage can be rectified
Enbrethiliel said…
The Body Language Guy's latest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkrbPz8xJEE

Why Meghan Will SOON Return To The UK

Mr. Rosas explains everything so succinctly and clearly. And if we thought the way the Counselors of State are set up was already a headache, the arrangement will be even more of a tangle! This is something that can be legally changed, however. And I think, given the unpopularity of Harry and Prince Andrew, that no one would really mind if it were changed in the near future.

But @ British Nutties, what do you think?
Natalier said…
I think in this case, the BLG may have been wrong about why TBW was missing from SB. I do think that she is just waiting for that opportunity when she can make a bigger splash with her presence. In her mind, a true royal is seldom seen in public hence she is limiting her sightings. This also goes with her acting more royal now than she had ever been - those china tea cups in her 40-40 video, the creeping in of the Queen's English and English terms when she speaks now, her more conservative dressing of late (apart from that red monstrosity at the gala) and the snotty entourage she brings with her everywhere like at the UN. She is playing royal now and looks like a total FOOL for it.
Has anyone else seen this?

https://rumble.com/vv7qa2-harry-and-meghans-facade-for-the-camera-princeharry-meghanmarkle.html

Film of the H$Ms & NYC dignitaries masking up for the photoshop - implying that Covid only infects us peasants - the elite are immune?

It seems to be a very commonly held belief...
Enbrethiliel said…
@Natalier
In her mind, a true royal is seldom seen in public hence she is limiting her sightings.

Good grief. The Queen is incredibly generous about sharing her time with her subjects, and she seems to have passed on this value to her children in various degrees. I remember reading that she started wearing neon suits for events that drew crowds so that she would catch the eye more easily and people who had traveled for miles to see her wouldn't go away disappointed. She is all about service and being there for the public. If anything, * is being the very opposite of royal.

those china tea cups in her 40-40 video

It was as much a joke as the smashed tea service on the double-decker bus in James Corden's "interview" of Harry.

Many years ago, a blogger who called himself The Last Psychiatrist said that narcissists don't understand that true identity comes from within, so they're always surrounding themselves with external totems "to prove" that they are who they say they are. * has a British prince for a hostage and maybe one tea cup she hasn't smashed in a fit; in her mind, that's more than enough to make her Catherine's equal. Why don't the rest of us see it???
Maneki Neko said…
@Elsbeth and @Enbrethiliel

Many thanks for the link to the BLG video explaining the difference between residence and domicile. The Harkles' link to a UK domicile seems tenuous to me, considering they have spent fewer than two weeks per year in the UK. And how would * reconcile [potentially] relocating to the UK with her statement that she didn't want to even visit the UK? God help us if they do come back!
@ Natalier reminds us about that `tea party' and the crockery-pottery.

I rather think * blundered there. To my eye, the drinking vessels looked like coarse earthenware, not even the traditional ironstone ware sold in street markets. The pattern were heavy and crude. Overall, it was barely student-mug quality. Nobody with the slightest pretention to being Somebody would touch such rough items.

It has to be fine bone china, or porcelain, for one to maintain one's social credibility.
BTW that's how the delicate question of whether one puts milk into one's cup before or after the tea arose. Ordinary folk had earthenware which was likely to crack from heat stress if the tea went in first. The rich could show off their superior cups by pouring the milk second.

I an irredeemably MILF (milk in first). I justify it as I heard a Twinings tea-taster explain that the chemical interaction between the milk and the tannin depends on the order in which it's done (just as diluting conc. acid with water has to be done the right way around for safety). He maintained that milk-in-first gives the better flavour - so that's good enough for me.
Enbrethiliel said…
@WBBM

I started drinking tea very late in life and usually make it in a mug with a teabag. So the tea is already in there when the milk goes in. (I remember horrifiying a Kiwi friend when I put the milk in before taking the teabag out! It was the last time I made that faux pas.) But I'm starting to try more loose leaf teas and can now experiment with the milk going in first.
@Enbrethiliel

I use a loose tea that's mainly Assam with a small amount of Kenyan, put together by a local blender.


Funnily enough, with tea bags, it always tastes OK the other way round. I wonder if it's because the tea has cooled slightly as one waits for it to brew? Add the milk too soon and you stop it brewing.

I wonder how much is in one's mind?
@Enbrethiliel - PS I too would horrify your Kiwi friend - how can you tell how strong the tea is otherwise?
Fifi LaRue said…
IMO if Mrs. Dollar had been invited to the Super Bowl, she would have been over at the VIP seats almost immediately, sucking up to Beyonce and Jay-Z, and whoever else was there. I recall from Lady CC's video about how the Mrs. was knocking at the Monteshito's neighbors' doors whenever she heard voices, like from a party, going on. Mrs. Dollar has no shame, and no compunctions about barging her way around socially. I think her face is botched badly from plastic surgery. Maybe she even has unsightly lumps all over her body from liposuction gone wrong.
Miggy said…
New HARRYMARKLE

Harry, The Super Bowl, And The Home Office

https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2022/02/21/harry-the-super-bowl-and-the-home-office/

@Fifi LaRue,

According to Lady C, Maggot has been told to keep a low profile by their PR peeps and advisers, because any public appearances etc. made by her has so far backfired, and it’s ruining their brand. 😳😂Tis why we are only seeing Mole.
@Fifi La Rue

O-o-o-oh dee-aaar, my heart would bleed for her...!
Hikari said…
@Fifi,

It would be too much to hope for to never have to look at her again. But something is suppressing her. The Greta Garbo act is not sustainable for Narcs…they MUST BE SEEN. It’s the oxygen they require. Not so much as a papp sighting or a Zoom promo since the Christmas stunt—and even that was supposed to have been 2 months earlier. Meaning, Shelob has not been seen in any form since her November appearance on Ellen—Which may have been taped earlier. Something is up. With so much activity emanating from London, only Hazard has been seen or heard from for months.

Weird.
Mel said…
I was pondering the asylum question some more. California is also a sanctuary state.

I agree that H has to have concrete proof that he's not safe....it can't be just that he doesn't "feel" safe.

However, does CA being a sanctuary state affect what he needs to prove in the way of safety vs danger?
Enbrethiliel said…
I agree that the Dollars' advisers are correct that * turns everything she touches into dross . . . but surely a narcissist would simply disbelieve it and continue to feel assured that the opposite was true. I'm kind of happy that we aren't seeing much of her any longer, but I'm as curious as the rest of us about the reason.
lizzie said…
@Mel wrote about CA being a sanctuary state and H's possible bid for asylum.

I don't quite see how CA's stance on anything much matters. Federal law should prevail re: immigration. I realize things haven't been seeming to work that way recently but it seems at most CA might aid H in a quest to avoid being deported. CA can't grant him US asylum.

But if H were to get asylum (I personally can't see that working over the kinds of fears he's described like fear of cameras/photographers) what does it get him? He must already have a green card or if somehow he's managed to work without getting one, he can easily get one being married to an American citizen. I doubt he's in fear of being deported so he doesn't need that stayed until a hearing. Somebody please tell me what I'm missing.
Cindy Lou Who said…
@WBBM

MILF means something completely different here in the US! The most polite way to say it would be "hot mom" ;)
snarkyatherbest said…
fifi. i agree and she would have had the paps stationed on her the whole time. she was either not invited (even harry could have been a late ask when someone else couldn’t use the tickets). i somehow don’t believe she would listen to her pr people that she needs to be less visible. narcs never do what they are told to do. either they are no longer together or she didn’t know he was going or she has moved on to someone something else
Mel said…
even harry could have been a late ask when someone else couldn’t use the tickets
-----

I hadn't thought of that. Could make sense of why not much publicity around his attendance.

If he was a late ask, how humiliating.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Cindy Lou Who

I was thinking that I'd get in the habit of putting the milk in first, just to call myself a MILF! ;-)
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