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Let the Bells Ring Out to Celebrate The Queen

 This is a long awaited day - to celebrate the glorious Seventy years reign of Her Majesty.  

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Theetome said…
I count 6 teeth not 8.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULc6Czx4dos

bad lip reading at the Thanksgiving service

It's hilarious
Birdie said…
Thank you to all the Nutties on the excellent commentary!

Hats off to the Queen — well played. For all people say Charles is weak when it comes to Harry, Charles did a wonderful job this weekend. I love seeing the Cambridge children act in an age appropriate manner.

On the photo of the baby and the photographer’s family, I think it’s possible the woman holding the baby is the nanny. The baby looks very comfortable in the arms holding her. From what I could see, the body type and dark hair could fit the nanny.

I’m sure the nanny signed a nondisclosure agreement. My question - would a nondisclosure agreement cover photos taken of a person with the face and hands photoshopped and replaced to be sold for profit?
Enbrethiliel said…
Speaking of PR, we're going to see a change in the Dollars' strategy going forward. For one thing, it has become very clear to them (and to the world!) that the royal shine has worn off. They were seated in the second row, publicly ignored by family members, and booed by the public. There's no damage control that will fix that. They're still going to cling to their titles, but they're no longer going to hitch their cart to the BRF's star . . . at least not as much as before.

Yes, Harry still has an ace to play that is his memoir -- which will now surely include a chapter on how cruel his father and brother were to him during the Jubilee.

But * has surely noticed that we went from discussing her merchant-class pinky ring, her public humiliation, and her third nipple to debating genetics and speculating about Photoshop. It will be digitally-altered photos of blatantly caucasian children and their biracial friends going forward! If a narcissist knows anything, it is a reliable source of fuel.
Fifi LaRue said…
This is what is known for certain: Deranged used Deep Dark bronzer for the Thanksgiving service. Second, she's a lousy actress d/t fiddling with the hidden microphone.
Observant One said…
I looked at the picture of the baby sitting on the grass and it distinctly looks like it has been photoshopped. She looks like she is floating on the grass, without legs. In addition, her face looks like a baby who is not yet walking. The toddler that PP is holding in the B&W looks more like a one year old, even if it’s the same baby. If you look at pictures of one year olds, they have typically started to lose the large full cheeks and their neck is more defined.

In the newest DM article, the background of the “grassy knoll” picture has been blurred even more, with ridiculously insulting labels of every item in the pictures, including a call out to freshly mown grass. Pathetic!
Mel said…
we're no longer talking about their disastrous appearance at the Jubilee.Was Ms.6
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And we're definitely not talking about her photo op using murdered children in Uvalde, TX.

She got that erased with her going to the Jubilee.



wearing a fat suit at St. Paul's
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I think she had a bullet proof vest on. Thus looking like a stuffed sausage.
Louise said…
Lizzie: I don't think that her bulk on Friday can only be explained by the coat. There was a recent photo of her at a picnic wearing an Emilie Wickstead dress with boats on it where she had quite a bit of back fat. I don't begrudge her the weight gain, but the overnight weight loss is not possible.

As for her face, she has lacked facial movement for some time now.. in the infamous "shushing" photo, at the polo,receiving NAACP award, etc. What stands out in the recent photo with the photog's wife is that her face has some movement. It is so unlike her current face that it can only be fake.

As for the child, she looks to me to be the same child in both photos. It is certainly possible that the photos were not taken on the same day.
Louise said…
Fifi: I don't think that this was only makeup bronzer that she was wearing ti church. The photos of her in Uvalde also showed her to be very dark skinned, including her arms (She often forgets her arms).

I had assumed that she had a complete spray tan in preparation for the trip to England.. so that she could look more "black". Her make up on Friday an Saturay also seemed to have been applied in order to create false "black features".
snarkyatherbest said…
sandie. trowel application and the drag queen look is in right now πŸ˜‰

did she photoshop the baby’s head and arm on the body. the arm seems kinda big in proportion to the squatting body.

i saw somewhere else speculating that since it’s just trotter and supposed spawn that she is setting herself up for single mom. with harry not in many of these pics and archie not seen in pics since christmas all very curious.

could these mean netflix was actually with PH and for his angle on things and she is getting back at him for the Jubilee failure by releasing the pic of the girl so it won’t be a netflix exclusive. it’s either that or she isn’t with them and this is another set up.
Snippet from the latest Lady C video….

Maggot and Mole had their paid for fans to cheer them outside St. Paul’s….and they still couldn’t drown out the boos! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

They were deliberately 15 minutes late to Clarence House, ensuring they didn’t have to use the bus like all the other less senior royals. By using a car, they upped their own status.πŸ˜³πŸ˜‚

@WBBM and NeutralObserver no worries and no apology necessary. πŸ˜ŠπŸ€—
Enbrethiliel said…
@Mel
And we're definitely not talking about her photo op using murdered children in Uvalde, TX.

She got that erased with her going to the Jubilee.


Good point. She's a lot better at erasing things these days. I guess she does have a learning curve, after all!

Or if this is the work of someone she has hired, what's going on behind the scenes? We know the Dollars are skint these days. Is there a new backer? And if so, what benefit does he or she get from an association with the Dollars?
Mel said…
Have we *ever* seen a picture of Archie and the baby together?
Have we ever even seen a picture of the 4 of them together that makes any sense?
snarkyatherbest said…
imagine the conversation with the cambridges:

footman: Sir i can report that the Sussexes arrived late to Clarence House and missed the bus

William: another square marked in my bingo card

Catherine: may inquire. Slut Strands?

Footman : sorry ma’am no ummm strands

Catherine: looks like i’m not filling my bingo card fast enough. i still need wired for sound to win.
In my family the consensus is…the colour photo showing the little girl on the grass…is nearer 2, because she’s overall too big and has too many teeth for a 1 year old. 😐
CatEyes said…
@Theetome said…
I count 6 teeth not 8.

Reply: Yes it appears to be six but I was using 8, a number another Nutty used. But I actually overestimated the number of teeth using the upper range for babies at age 1. Most dental sources I sourced stated by age one, a baby will have 2-4 teeth. So 'Lili' with a whopping 6 or more has 2-3 times the normal amount. Of course that is not in of itself anything, but again we always seem to see the duo's children exceed every child development stage of development regardless.

What I think is striking is how tall 'Lili' is when she is being held by Mrs. 6. She is almost as tall (inches) at the liitel girl guest at her alleged party. But by comparison when I looked at pictures of Lucas Tindall (born March 2021) then 'Lili' realy looks tall for her age. Here is an article that shows Mike and Zara's son at his initial one year outing in public. And Mike's a big guy and little Lucas certainly should be much bigger than Lili (he's also 2 months older).

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a39992914/lucas-tindall-facts-queen-elizabeth-great-grandson/
Rebecca said…
It floors me that the courtiers/staff at Clarence House never anticipated that They would be mic’ed for their meeting with Charles and Camilla. It is being reported by credible sources that they only figured this out after the fact. Why is the RF so often caught flat footed?? They should know by now that the Sussexes don’t play by the traditional rules of civilized society.

Hikari said…
It's part of Smeagol's discordance that she essentially appears in blackface of her own devising when she's among the racist Royal family, and yet by the casting of 'her children' she has absolutely eradicated any tiny smidgen of their supposed mixed race heritage.

In her engagement photos, she was as pale as ever, and the wedding too . . the heavy-handed application of Insta-Black seemed to appear in earnest after that. Already fiddling the racist narrative after mere days in the Firm.

There's a way for Harry to salvage the Netflix deal, though he doesn't have the cojones for it. Smeagol is keeping his cojones in her jewelry box only to be brought out to entertain the masses with juggling displays. If he were to break with *, go to an undisclosed location and sing like a canary about her and about all the lies they have told beginning in 2016 . . those ratings would be boffo. It'd be like the Frost-Nixon interviews all over again. It wouldn't be the content Netflix originally paid for but it would recoup their investment in the couple.

This will never happen; I don't think Harry is ever getting out of this toxic union. Once upon a time I thought he could come back to his family if he'd denounce her but he's never going to. And even if he does, by now it's too late.
Hikari said…
It floors me that the courtiers/staff at Clarence House never anticipated that They would be mic’ed for their meeting with Charles and Camilla. It is being reported by credible sources that they only figured this out after the fact. Why is the RF so often caught flat footed?? They should know by now that the Sussexes don’t play by the traditional rules of civilized society.

It floors me, too. After the Commonwealth service debacle in 2020, that should have been the default expectation. I guess for the RF, really and truly accepting that Harry has so completely turned his coat and become their enemy has been a really tough thing to swallow and still now, or at least until this past weekend, they were hoping that for his grandmother's Jubilee, he would revert to his Royal training and insist that his wife toe the line, too. Continuing to view Harry foremost as a son, brother, grandson and not as a traitor has been the RF's error. They need to stop thinking of him as a 'beloved member of the family' who has made some bad judgements and treat him like an enemy of the state. Because that's what he is.

In this light and given the egregiously unrepentant behavior displayed by the Sussexes, I think the Queen erred in inviting them. She may have wanted to be seen as magnanimous to her renegade grandson, of whom, the PR relentlessly tells us, she has always been especially fond. Whatever. This gesture of magnanimity put a tremendous strain on the rest of her beloved family members, not to mention all the courtiers and security detail responsible for the Harkles. Harry's been smacked down, very publicly . . those deafening boos and jeers outside of St. Paul's were satisfying on one hand but also marred what was to have been a sacred service of thanksgiving. The crowds outside weren't feeling especially thankful. Even though the Harkles were humiliated, still, they got raftloads of international press attention, even if it was negative and they did effectively overshadow the monarch, who did not even attend.

Without that scene of ignominy, preceded by the seating arrangements designed to show HazNowt his proper sphere now that he quit, the Harkles could have pretended better that they still held a position of esteem in the RF. But was it worth it, really, Ma'am? The toxic two are a disruptive influence even when they don't turn up to events, with the endless churning speculation about where they are, what they are doing, if they are coming, etc. etc. This couple gets more attention for doing nothing than anyone in the history of time.
Louise said…
Do we know that the Harkles really met with Charles and Camilla?

The story seems to have begun when they were seen driving away from Clarence House early Friday. However, as I undersand, Clarence House was used for parking for those who were traveling by bus to the church. Since the Harkles seem to have (intentionally?) missed the bus, they were put into a car.

In other words, they may not have gotten any further than the Clarence House parking lot.
abbyh said…
Mic'd for a meeting?

At my house, if my narc kid did this, that would be grounds for rewriting the will. Full stop. Complete Full stop.

When it came to the lying, I began with the concept it was a lie I was being told (even if there was no reason for a lie) and then thought about how it might or might not be true.

But this is a whole new level.



I see evidence for 4 top teeth and 4 bottom ones.

Their owner had some unexplained folds in the eyelid - and what about the roll of fat at the back of the neck?

Any thoughts???
Opus said…
I have no doubt the Cambridges have three children - I can see them in my mind's eye; I cannot do the same with the Sussexes. I do not believe in their existence.

Hikari, you write so well and perceptively and with such command of people, places and things that I can only imagine that you have it all on a massive roller-deck.
lizzie said…
@Hikari questioned TQ's decision to invite the Sussexes to the Jubilee:

Yeah, but I think this is one of those "the grass is always greener" things. It's true if H&M hadn't been there they wouldn't have been booed on the church steps, a satisfying occurrence to me, but one that @Hikari suggested may have "marred what was to have been a sacred service of thanksgiving.,"

But who knows what H&M would have been doing if they weren't there! It's not as though the RF wouldn't have had that to worry about. It's not quite the same but people (including me!) breathed a sigh of relief when MM didn't go to the UK for Philip's funeral. And while that was best IMO we still got the wreath story gaining attention at the very moment his casket was being carried into the church. Some people even said the handwritten note from TQ on top of the casket was from Meghan! We also got the papped shot of Archie while Harry was in the UK.

I think they had to be invited as they are members of the family. I honestly don't think TQ did it only to appear magnanimous.
Louise said…
Wild Boar:


An epicanthal fold is skin of the upper eyelid that covers the inner corner of the eye. The fold runs from nose to the inner side of the eyebrow.
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Causes

Epicanthal folds may be normal for people of Asiatic descent and some non-Asian infants. Epicanthal folds also may be seen in young children of any race before the bridge of the nose begins to rise.

However, they may also be due to certain medical conditions, including:

Down syndrome
Fetal alcohol syndrome
Turner syndrome
Phenylketonuria (PKU)
Williams syndrome
Noonan syndrome
Rubinstein-Taybi syndrome
Blepharophimosis syndrome

Maneki Neko said…
I don't want to harp on about it but TBW's rings are clearly visible on the b&w photo. They're on her left hand, holding the child. You'll need to enlarge it a bit but they're her rings and she's wearing her wedding ring 'inside', like on other photos available on the internet.

Her back is very slim and I must admit that I haven't bothered to check her various features (nose, teeth etc) for signs of cosmetic surgery. The photo doesn't look photoshopped to me but we can expect that nothing is as it seems with TBW.
Enbrethiliel said…
I'm watching River's latest video now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl3-TGpaLkA

He agrees that the Dollars have fallen back on their Plan B to push "their" children on the world. (Just Lili, though? As another Nutty said earlier, it's very odd that her big brother Archie isn't in her birthday photos. Then again, if you've been keeping track of all the children -- and dolls -- who've played Archie from the beginning, it's not odd at all! People will be wondering about him, though, so they'd better get casting!)

But the problem the Dollars have now is that the suspiciousness of their photos will always be up against the wholesomeness and veracity of the Cambridge family's photos.
Humor Me said…
@hikari9:18 pm comment.
Good question to ponder. Just MM showed her true colors by 1) rolling down the car window in progress to TOC. 2) several window pap shots, one which ended up being marketed. 3) the rictus grin across her face- she must have hurt hours later.
and 4) bringing along a private photographer when they took the baby to meet HM.
My spouse was appalled at reading that story and the gall of these two. It seems that she can show the children of others in her PR, but her own children’s images are guarded closer than the hold in Ft. Knox.
Of all the photos snapped of Harry, were any of them showing him happy? There was a narrative to all the Harry photos- was he truly that glum the 72+hours ?
Are there several versions of the B&W photo? I can see 1 ring, with a stone now.

The missing hand of the little girl seems lost in a blur as she moved quickly.(colour pic)
Enbrethiliel said…
@Hikari
This gesture of magnanimity put a tremendous strain on the rest of her beloved family members, not to mention all the courtiers and security detail responsible for the Harkles

This hits me on a personal level. In my family, an older member still calls a lot of the shots. And she doesn't seem to care when certain decisions of hers, made out of charity toward some people, put a great strain on others. The worst part is that the latter group are the ones who give her regular, consistent support. That is the thanks they get?

I'm sure that everyone else put up with it out of love and respect for a matriarch who is also their monarch. But at this point, I wonder if their acquiescence carried a slightly morbid note as well. She's in her late 90s. It's not as if her enabling of the Dollars at the expense of everyone else's dignity, will continue for much longer.
Enbrethiliel said…
@snarkyatherbest
Re: bingo cards

I would have put "Diana cosplay" on mine and been thoroughly thwarted by her Catherine cosplay!
Martha said…
In the b&w photo, I see a ring on the left finger...appears to be silver with a stone.
I read elsewhere...mayb Skippy, someone posted that the child is the granddaughter, Rebecca Cord, of Gardiner Watson. This person said he’s a CNN person. I googled him, and found a Canadian by that name. In Toronto, there is the Gardiner Expressway.
Louise said, Do we know that the Harkles really met with Charles and Camilla?…….

Your theory seems perfectly credible to me! πŸ˜ƒ
Enbrethiliel said…
@HumorMe
It seems that she can show the children of others in her PR, but her own children’s images are guarded closer than the hold in Ft. Knox.

It gets worse when you remember that she exploited the deaths of children for her PR right before this.
snarkyatherbest said…
i googled. there is a cnn correspondent Ivan Watson but not Gardner watson. Ivan has a daughter who turned 1 in may. his wife’s instagram is private. spent bday in quarantine in hong kong. curious on cnn connection given “archie” gavin’s mom but i’m coming up blank. someone’s kid for sure. glad to see river is back. will have to watch the video
Hikari said…
@lizzie

I think they had to be invited as they are members of the family. I honestly don't think TQ did it only to appear magnanimous.

Certainly there was a widespread expectation that the Harkles would be invited as members of the family . . at least, Harry is a member of the family and Smirkle is his plus-one, but pending a divorce, she will certainly cease to be a member of the family even as a courtesy--but 'had to be'? Only insofar as Her Majesty was spurred by her conscience or residual family feeling or any fears of having 'Racist!' lobbed at One if she declined to invite them. But the Queen is the decider on what 'has' to be, right? Who else could compel her? Unless it is a constitutional matter for the Parliament. It's hard to imagine anyone other than the Sussex Sugar Squad actually *wanted* them to be invited. Surely the family did not, since the Harkles' presence creates such stress and drama. Any drama in the way of pictures or sniping from California after a non-invitation would have been muted compared to having to choreograph official avoidance of the Toxic Duo by every senior royal. Even though on their guard, the RF allowed the Harkles a wee bit too much lead to take advantage of and they did. Why, for example, were Madam and Handbag permitted to be photographed with the children at the windows, allowing Madam to merch her trinket du jour and possibly frighten the little ones into the bargain? Harry's attempt at 'playful shushing' was particularly scary. Why were they permitted to leave Frogmore Cottage or wherever they were staying wired for sound, or permitted to even arrive 15 minutes late, allowing themselves to be escorted in a luxury automobile instead of the bus for all the other family members who wer not in the top tier? This is special treatment and once again they were rewarded for misbehavior. What use was it having HM send her three very tip-top security equerries when such laxity was allowed? If it had been me in charge I'd have insisted upon a through search of their persons and possessions prior to departure. If recording devices were found, all invitations would have been cancelled. If they declined to be ready on time, likewise. Overlooking blatant and ongoing defiance over all matters large and small isn't magnanimous so much as short-sighted. These two will NEVER behave. If that is not clear to Her Majesty, a dedicated rule-follower all her long life, then let us hope it has become crystal clear to her successors.

The British public spoke vociferously as to their thoughts about the Harkles' inclusion in the festivities. I hope it was cathartic for those who were able to be on the pavement and boo them. Hope it doesn't become a super spreader event for Covid, but that'd be typical of Typhoid Markle for sure.
Enbrethiliel said…
The Body Language Guy is doing a live video in which he picks apart the new photo of * and Lili:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfLuZhS63TU

Since it's live, you might have to wait until it's over to listen to the entire analysis. I started in the middle of things myself.
lizzie said…
@Maneki Neko, Thanks for the ring info.

I cannot see both rings in the B&W shot, even enlarging the picture. I can only see one and that's all I've ever been able to see with certainty. The one I see for sure has a stone and is not a wedding band. And the stone *looks like* a single stone with a slightly raised prong setting, not the 3 stones set a bit lower. I do not see a wedding band on the inside. But I'll take people's word that they see more.

The missing hand of the child guest might be a blur from movement as suggested but the mom's hand looks odd too. You'd think the professional photographer would have snapped a few shots in case of movement especially with digital....
Shimmerclaw said…
Take a good look at Lilibets hairline in the picture of her sitting on the grass. It looks as though she's wearing a wig cap. The hair just showing underneath looks brown to me.
Surely they wouldn't put a wig on her?
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Humor Me said…
@enbrethiliel - I totally spaced Uvalde. Would anyone else check their images on a digital camera along side the white crosses of the deceased? Who is this person?

Regarding your comment about the older person calling the shots - I feel your pain (and still do with that late family member's adult child). This occasion was singular in its historical importance, and I honestly believe that everyone - Everyone, of her direct descendants were united in making the four days a polished performance devoid of any overt actions that could have detracted from the event. Even H&M: they were told ahead of time the who, what and where they would fit in and it was publically announced before they could spin it. They agreed to come, otherwise they would look petulant and angry at the constraints. So they played nice as much as they could get away with. The Queen had the final word regarding the photo op. From the looks of the televised shots - everyone of the family members had a wonderful time celebrating a once in a millenium occasion. With the exception of a family who left early.
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Elsbeth1847 said…
Gosh. Out of the goodness of their hearts, they wanted to help by supplying the photographer to allegedly document the meeting. Sure (are you interested in a bridge, maybe?)

the second paragraph

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10892851/Harry-Meghan-Couple-incredibly-cheeky-asked-photographer-capture-Queen-Lilibet.html
Louise said…
Happy Days: Harry's eyes are smallish and close set. William has wide eyes like Diana did.
Theetome said…
Sorry, I just took a screen shot and enlarged it. Did she redo the engagement ring and add a thin diamond band to it? It looks very fragile, and and she appears to be wearing the gold wedding band. I had it confused as I thought the plain band was the engagement ring band, but now I see that is her wedding band and the engagement ring has pave diamonds
Henrietta said…
Shimmerclaw said...

Take a good look at Lilibets hairline in the picture of her sitting on the grass. It looks as though she's wearing a wig cap. The hair just showing underneath looks brown to me.
Surely they wouldn't put a wig on her?


I think the bow is on a headband. I don't see any sign of a wig.
Rebecca said…
I realize the Express is not the most credible news source but I hope this is fact:

THE QUEEN is reported to have given a two-word response to pleas from Prince Harry and Meghan Markle to allow a photographer to capture the moment their daughter first met her namesake: “No chance.”
Henrietta said…
Louise shared:

An epicanthal fold is skin of the upper eyelid that covers the inner corner of the eye.


Ingrid Seward of Majesty magazine has always said that both Wills and Harry have these, but you can only see them from very close up (i.e., they're not going to show in pictures).


Ian's Girl said…
I want to apologize for offending people with my remarks about the Sussex (?) childrens' looks.

I most assuredly would not have said that I didn't think they were cute in the comments of the DM, or a huge website, or anything similar.

I meant it as a reflection on possible reasons they might not be releasing many pictures of the children, not as specifically being critical of their looks, but I realize it did come across that way, and I'm sorry for that!

I do think it's totally out of character for * to not be flooding the internet with photographs of their sprogs. I do also believe that the BRF drew a strong red line around exploiting any children ( losing their titles, especially), and that Harry might also be a stickler about not wanting them constantly in the papers.


Sandie said…
https://youtu.be/FjJbPcx0zNs

The Behaviour Panel have a look at his body language during that interview he did in the Netherlands. What I found most interesting is the observation that he has the body language of a 12-year-old. I reckon there was some kind of arrested development when his mother died and that is the weakness that led him into the mess his life has become.
Sandie said…
The child's hair: you can see her 'fringe' is shorter. What they have done is taken the longer hair from the top of her head and brushed it forward to cover the headband and partly frame her face. Just my opinion!

Someone took a lot of trouble to pose her. The mother is not one to take such care and pay so much attention to another. I think this could be the golden child.
CatEyes said…
@sandie said....
"Someone took a lot of trouble to pose her. The mother is not one to take such care and pay so much attention to another. I think this could be the golden child."

I think you nailed it! Of course after the 6's realized they flipantly named their son "Archie" they went with a moneymaker moniker, hence using the Queen's pet nickname of "Lilibet" and "Diana" and why they wanted the 'Money shot' with the Queen (while poor little Archie does not even warrant a single photo nowdays).













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Magatha Mistie said…

🎀
Apologies: Lesley Gore
It’s My Party

Party Poopers

Nobody knows where
Archie has gone
Ain’t been seen for a while
Why is she hiding him still
Makes no reason or rhyme

It’s Meh’s party
and she’ll lie if she wants to
Lie as she’s wont to
She’ll lie on cue
for a photo or two…

Mimi said…
Magatha, this is one I won’t forget! 🀣
CatEyes said…
@Magatha

Your poems are not just the Queen's English, royally inspired and jubillee delightful! Thanks for the laughs over the yrs.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Magatha,

you keep outdoing yourself.
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OCGal said…
@Ian’s Girl, I didn’t consider your observations on little Lilibet’s looks offensive in the slightest. All children are precious, but realistically some kids are more adorable than others. Lilibet is just a normally cute little kid. Giving that opinion isn’t being cruel.

I agree with so many who remark that Second Row Rachel must be disappointed in (or even angry at) the unexceptional looks of her two little children. She thinks she deserves to be #1 in everything including looks, and since her kids are an extension of herself, she might be aggravated that they are just normal-looking little kids, and not in the upper echelon of memorably photogenic cuteness*

Second Row Rachel is beyond redemption, and I am contemptuous of everything about her. I pray she isn’t cruel to her sweet healthy little children. She may have had enough plastic surgery to look beautiful as an adult, but her rotten inner ugliness can still be seen. On the other hand, her innocent little children become beautiful in comparison to their monster of a “mother”.

————————————-

* speaking of photogenic cuteness, the most adorable baby of all, Ann Turner Cook, just died this week at age 95 - she was the original cherubic Gerber Baby. May she Rest In Peace.
Magatha Mistie said…

Sorry, had to 😳
Apologies: Judy’s Turn to Cry

Sty in her Eye

When meh left Arch’ out the party
That was a foolish thing
Really should have been brought out
Arch’ and Li’l together trending…

Now it’s meh’s turn to cry
Karma in her eye
‘Cause meh cocked up
photo-shopping…

Magatha Mistie said…

@DesignDoc, Mimi, CatEyes
& GWAH, cheers 😘
Thank you X

DesignDoctor said…
Did anyone else think that Lilibet's arm looks huge and out of proportion to the rest of her body on the color photo in the garden?
I think the photo is odd and definitely looks photoshopped. She looks like she is floating on the grass.
Ian's Girl said…
I hate to admit it, but wee Lili looks like Lady Louise through the eyes (and has she got the same lazy eye as one of the Archie babies?) and she's also got that bone structure her mouth that Charlotte has, that makes her look so much like Her Majesty right now.

We don't know anything about the Markle genes. There could absolutely be a red head among them. All three of the child's paternal great aunts and uncle are red heads. Her father is a red head. I don't find it odd that one of their kids would be red headed. Andrew has a red headed daughter ( 2, possibly; Eug looks like her hair is auburn in certain light)

I'm a blue-eyed, flaming redhead myself, from two very dark brunette parents. I had a strawberry blonde maternal grandmother, and one paternal half great uncle and some cousins that are redheaded. None of my 6 brothers are remotely red headed, they mostly took after the Native side, like my father, who had 2 Native grandmothers. I took after my Norwegian maternal grandmother; her own mother stood 6 feet tall, and while I am not that tall, I am half a head taller than both my parents. Half my brothers are under 6 feet, the other three range from 6'2" to 6'10".

I am still perfectly willing to believe the kids are borrowed, but I am more inclined to go with surrogates. But I was wondering if anyone else has thought they may have gone somewhere that does "designer" babies? Where you can pick the hair and eye color, etc? Because I'd bet my firstborn child (I don't have any!) that she wanted at least one red head.
Mel said…
Besides the ear being weird, the fingers are weird too. Ghost pointer finger.
Observant One said…
I agree with you Design Doctor. I think she has been photoshopped into that backdrop and looks like she is floating or hovering. It bothers me that her legs or feet are not visible.
Enbrethiliel said…
Earlier, @Ilya mentioned that Lili and August "have a very similar look."

This Instagram user agrees:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CefqHuKsJMx/

I find the side-by-side photo comparisons striking myself.

What's hilarious is that Blind Gossip's April Fool's Day post this year was about the Dollars wanting the Brooksbanks to be surrogates or donors or something of that sort! That was all clearly made up in fun, but the likeness between Lili and August makes me wonder whether Princess Eugenie is enabling * with another sort of "donation" again.
Enbrethiliel said…
I can't wait until people start asking why we consistently see Lili, but never catch a glimpse of Archie any longer.

She may try to delay this by showing the back, feet, hands, etc. of some other child in a photo with Lili. But people are still going to notice that Lili's face is free for public consumption (and merching!) but Archie's is not.
Magatha Mistie said…

D.C. Comics

Just mo’ dramas
From the Fauxbamas
Anything for fame, and a dime
She’ll run for Office
Funded via all for profits
Act of Conquest
will be her next climb
Be aware
she’s just Biden her time…

@GWAH- thanks for Fauxbamas
Delicious πŸ˜‹



Enbrethiliel said…
Also on Instagram, our beloved Body Language Guy is trolling * by saying that Lili looks like Thomas Markle!
Magatha Mistie said…

Bonfire of the Insanities

They’re finished over in Blighty
Haz looking furious and shitey
They’ve lost the lot
Family, Country, self esteem
Quickly becoming a MSM meme
All through
*gum power, treason and Thot…

*Gun powder, treason and plot
Bonfire night, Guy Fawkes tried to
burn down the Houses of Parliament,
and failed…



Thanks to all who have explained epicanthic folds and that there's nowt amiss here.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Birdie
I agree, Charles did a wonderful job.
It’s also obvious
his grandkids adore him.

@Enbrethiliel
Shine has worn off,
left with verdigris!

@Snarkie
The trowels & tribulations
of meh’s face…

I do believe they met with
the Queen.
I also believe no photo’s
allowed by meh’s photographer.
The Queen called the shots.
Checkmate…

Sorry, for late replies,
still reading comments!

SwampWoman said…
Good extremely (here) early morning, Magatha! Wonderful songs/poetry as per usual! What a morning brightener!
SwampWoman said…
Ian's Girl, not at all offended here about your speculation about the appearance of the alleged children. (I say alleged because I don't consider there to be evidence either way at the moment.) I looked upon it as matter of fact commentary about the saleability of a commodity from the point of view of *extremely* venal parents. How sad is it that we immediately gravitate to the alleged parents looking upon the physical appearance of their alleged progeny in view toward peddling photographs for $ to $$$? It is heart-wrenchingly sad for me to contemplate that the entire reason for those children is to serve as a short-term meal ticket. I don't even want to imagine the damage to the psyche of those children. I hope for their sake that they are not real. I don't think children's worthiness should have anything to do with something that they cannot control. Hopefully, should they exist, they will not grow to be people that are so obsessed with appearance that they haunt surgeon's offices for the elusive perfect look that may not be obtainable.

*Disclaimer: Nobody has ever approached ME at a theme park for publicity pictures in exchange for freebies where I have to look breathtakingly lovely while I'm enthusiastically enjoying myself. It could be because when I feel I have to go for the sake of the young that I look as though I've been sentenced to death because I hate theme parks. I would rather be on a quiet beach without hordes of humanity.

I cannot help but notice that jewelry stores are not throwing loaner or free jewelry my way in exchange for wearing it. Clothing designers have never chased me down imploring me to wear their creations. (They may pay me to not wear them.) I haven't even gotten free work boots or a shovel from a hardware store which is actually more useful to me than free tickets to a theme park or a piece of jewelry! Perhaps I should speak to the manager (grin).
Enbrithiel, who is the IG user please. I wanted to see a side by side. Thanks.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Swampie
As do you,
you make my day 😘


Magatha Mistie said…
Your point being,@Ilya?
Maratha, What point do you mean? Her link doesn’t work for me
Enbrethiliel said…
@Ilya

The Instagram user is @katemiddletonekspertizi

The side-by-side comparison is currently the fourth post in her feed. I hope this makes it easier for you to see it!
snarkyatherbest said…
hmmm morphing August to look like Lilibuck. interesting theory and it slaps at PE which she likes to do. not sure but as i said interesting theory. i really want to know what is going. on between the mrs and PE.

i think if photoshopped of another. any she did tweak it enough to claim the copyright and show she rally didn’t co-opt another child’s pic. one rumor on line it’s a pic from an australian baby actress. another, the second pic was her holding jessica mulroney’s daughter. oh that is a good theory. so what is their relationship these days Mrs doesn’t do things in a vacuum. if she could make someone as irate as she’d after the Jubilee you know she would.
Este said…
I wonder why Meghan didn't bring her mother to Lilibet's birthday party? And, more importantlyl, where were Venus? Orpah? Ellen? Priyanka? Amal? Jessica? Misha? Megsybaby isn't known for holding onto hot tea very long so I'm guessing they all had full calendars, tisk tisk. Or are they saving the star filled first birthday bash for the Neflix reality tv show, "The Suck-its Get Revenge On ALL Their Families While Cosplaying Royals?" Netflix could sure use a profitable train wreck. Anything to stop the ratings hemorrhaging. Now that they are officially second row royals, is it okay to look forward to the Netflix trainwreck?
Sandie said…
* Ex-rugby star told podcast how much he enjoyed the Jubilee, especially a lunch with cousins last Thursday
* But is understood Harry and Meghan didn't attend - and went straight to Windsor after Trooping the Colour
* William and Kate had lunch with the Queen, Prince Charles and other senior royals on the balcony with them

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10896165/Mike-Tindall-reveals-outstanding-cousins-lunch-Harry-Meghan-didnt-attend.html
-----------------

Interesting! The cousins not on the balcony were Peter, Zara, Beatrice and Eugenie (plus spouses and children). I wonder why they were split into two groups for lunch (balcony and non balcony). Were senior Royals trying to avoid the duo from Montecito? BP certainly has the space to accommodate everyone in one room for lunch. And why did the duo shun the cousins? He used to get on very well with these cousins. Were they miffed at the downgrade in status?

I did predict that she would avoid having to socialize with Royals, the true reason being that she is socially awkward and out of place. Her presence would restrain him, so he has to forego a lunch with cousins that he would probably really enjoy.
Sandie said…
A close college friend of hers lives in London (one of the two that was at Wimbledon with her that day she cleared the stands). That friend has children because she is trying to get her child/children enrolled at the school that the Cambridge children attend. So, not even her best friend was there at the birthday party? He used to have a lot of friends, who are now married with children. None of them could be at the birthday party?

They are so isolated. I wonder if the penny will ever drop that they might be the problem?
I don’t see anyone suggesting August was morphed into Lilibet. I think they look like cousins and I wanted to see a side by side.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Este
And, more importantlyl, where were Venus? Orpah? Ellen? Priyanka? Amal? Jessica? Misha?

All too busy watching the Jubilee celebrations on TV like the rest of us? ;-)

As for Doria, maybe she has fallen out of favor in the last few months. When was the last Doria sighting anyone remembers?
Enbrethiliel said…
@Magatha

I had to look up "verdigris." What a useful word to describe all that the Dollars still have left! Thank you!
Enbrethiliel said…
One of Trevor Coult's viewers spills some tea on the Dollars! Apparently, no children got off the plane with them when they landed in the UK and no children boarded the plane with them when they left for the us.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxqimkT--unCVZNvE5DL2FA-NgYt8yHqBe

(I hope that link works!)
Maneki Neko said…
Several news sites report the same:

Netflix bosses will be 'dismayed' by Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's failure to be photographed with the Queen and Prince William and Kate at the Jubilee, royal expert claims

* Prince Harry and Meghan Markle left Netflix 'dismayed' with Jubilee 'failure'
* Royal expert revealed the streaming service wanted pictures with senior royals
* Angela Levin said picture with the Queen would have been 'very, very valuable'
* Added: 'It would give them a kudos that they had Lili with her great grandmother

Nothing we couldn't have predicted... I think it's safe to say Netflix won't be any more 'work' from the 6s, although I 'm not sure what their multiyear contract involved.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10896227/Netflix-dismayed-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markles-Jubilee-failure.html
snarkyatherbest said…
someone on tumblr found a link to a photographer in Australia with pics of a 2 year old girl. with a little tweaking could be the girl. flip a pic add the head band and put on a mother body (hence the large arm) it could be her.

https://www.istockphoto.com/search/stack/799290040?assettype=image

see if this works.
SwampWoman said…
Exactly, Este! When normal people have a birthday party for a child, it isn't about social climbing, it is about close relatives and friends celebrating a birthday.
xxxxx said…
Enbrethiliel said...
Also on Instagram, our beloved Body Language Guy is trolling * by saying that Lili looks like Thomas Markle!

Not to sound racist or anything (lol) but Thomas is German and from close by. For all I know, he might have Swedish and Norwegian in him too. Thomas Senior is quite pale with (presumably) enough red hair and blue eyes in his family tree.

So the LiliBet (place your bets!) red hair/and blue eyes come from Harry and some from Meghan's side too. My take anyways.
Also -- You know what Meghan's biggest resentment has been through the years? That she never voices. Having to spend hours to straighten and process her hair to whiten-up herself. One example being her Hollywood resumΓ©, where she identifies as White or Caucasian. Even today her hair could be spun into a weak Afro if she grew it out naturally. Her old photos at 13 with Thomas, show how frizzy her hair is.
Hikari said…
"Cosplaying Royals"--good one!

Is there anyone that thinks the recent photos of "Lilibet" and the group shot ostensibly the photographer's family are truly legit? When * uses B&W photos, that is a guarantee that those images have been manipulated. The tampering/distortion is less noticeable in black and white. Granted, 'Daddy' is a photographer (allegedly) . . but black and white is a very odd choice for a contemporary snap of the family that isn't intended to be part of an exhibition. All the photos of the heavily gravid Megsy last summer with the faces of her barefooted family covered/Tree of Life were also in black and white, despite being taken in a lovely garden spot in Southern California (allegedly). They were outside anyway. Instead of summer green or flowers, we get this arid attempt at 'arty'. Allegedly taken 'remotely' over the computer. Why couldn't the Harkles have taken their own selfies then?

All of this is more of her mind games. Whenever she ostentatiously drops the names of people assisting her, whether it's hair, makeup, fashion, cakes, flowers, photos or as a PA . . you can bet your buttons that this is some form of payback for favors scheme or for favors that will be called in in the future. Soho House connections? Wouldn't be surprised.

I don't know who Smug thinks she's fooling with these pictures. The one of her . .she hasn't looked like that since we've known her. That's Suits era, if not earlier. Photoshopping a facsimile of her current rings on the pictured hand would be a piece of cake compared to inserting entire groups of people.

This person is a known and proven liar. Her lies are legion, and some of them are a matter of record for a UK court. If a person is known to have told fibs in the past about matters large and small . . anything she says should be taken as suspect. Ie. false. Pictures, stories about birthday parties, etc. It's all made up.
DesignDoctor said…
@snarky

Yes! Definitely could be the same girl.
SwampWoman said…
Enbrethiliel says: Blogger Enbrethiliel said...
@Este
And, more importantlyl, where were Venus? Orpah? Ellen? Priyanka? Amal? Jessica? Misha?

All too busy watching the Jubilee celebrations on TV like the rest of us? ;-)

As for Doria, maybe she has fallen out of favor in the last few months. When was the last Doria sighting anyone remembers?


LOL, I had the same question about Doria. We need proof of life (grin). Is she buried beneath the flowerbeds at Montecito? I haven't seen anything about her this year.
DesignDoctor said…
interesting comment on Trevor Coult's site saying there were no children on either of the flights:

Trevor, have you seen the short "Truth Matters" posted by Queen Gurty claiming that the photo of Lilibet is that of the gardeners granddaughter, Rebecca Cord, aged 18 months? Maybe worth looking into.
Maneki Neko said…
@snarkyatherbest

The little girl in the link you posted does look a lot like Lilibet but if you look at her left ear and compare it with Lilibet's, the top of her ear is more pointed. Ears are unique to each individual and so I'm not convinced it's Lilibet.
DesignDoctor said…
From Celt Views You Tube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7emxdGEPSk

She has some interesting comments about the Thanksgiving service. I read on Trevor Coult's page that Celt is preparing a video on Lilibet's photo.
DesignDoctor said…
BLG talking about the photo of *

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfLuZhS63TU
Enbrethiliel said…
@Hiikari

The Body Language Guy said that even if the B&W shot is a real picture, he doesn't buy that it and her Thanksgiving Service photos were taken a mere 24 hours apart.

Even if the photo were totally legit, something else would still smell fishy. * couldn't tell the truth to save her life.
Girl with a Hat said…
about the BLG's video - the opening sequence has two photos side by side.

the twat's eye teeth (incisors) aren't even the same from the black and white photo and the photos of her coming out of the service last Thursday.

In one, the incisors are sharp, in the photo from the service, her incisors are rounded, like Catherine's
`At Home with the Sussexes'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjL8SbUHnBE

Trevor Coult's `sweet' parody!
Fifi LaRue said…
@xxxx: Too bad about Deranged's hair. I've seen/known many mixed race women with various degrees of curly hair. Curly hair can be quite glorious with proper styling and products. * should take about a year to lay low, let her hair grow out naturally, and start working with a stylist to get that full head of curly hair rocking. Or, let it grow out naturally, and cut it short, ala Haille Berry or Jada Smith. With Deranged's 10 - 12% African American, her hair should be quite easily brought into its full natural glory.
Ian's Girl said…
If * has good curls as opposed to just bushy hair, I'd love to her rocking it natural.

The little red haired girl in the stick photos has much redder hair than the one we are supposed to believe is Invisibet. Also thicker and slightly more textured.

I agree that the pic of Lili (or the gardener's daughter or?) is borderline creepy with no feet or legs. As a Southerner, I also find it weird that there's no blanket beneath her to protect her from insects, but perhaps that isn't an issue in England.
Hikari said…
@Embre,

Impossible to tell where those photos were actually taken, but we've never known * to look like that, ever. This fresh-scrubbed look might even be from college. It looks to be at least 2 or three nosejobs ago. And, I know it can be cooler in England than here in the Midwest in summer but it's a stretch to imagine that 'Lili' went from a light sleeveless summer dress to being bundled in a sweater and layers within the same afternoon. *'s outfit in the B&W photo also looks decidedly autumnal with heavier fabrics and a sweater. Did a cold front blow through Windsor in just a couple of hours?

* always overgilds the lily of her untruths. Wouldn't be enough to show one snapshot of a couple of people allegedly at this party. No, she insists that the Phillipses and the Tindalls accompanied their kids to this birthday shindig. So between the Epsom Derby and the Party at the Palace concert, the two families enjoyed a convivial gathering at Frogmore Cottage--after cutting the Harkle parents DEAD at the church the preceding day. Weren't they worried about being secretly recorded in the Harkles' private residence and maybe videotaped too?

What I call this is the same waste product that comes out of the back end of a male bovine.
It doesn't matter how ridiculous her falsehoods get, media outlets will take her money and print anything they are told. It's quite disheartening.
lizzie said…
Some attempts at possible answers to questions posed:

1. I *think* we last saw Doria at the NAACP Awards. That was in February-- about 3 1/2 months ago.

2. The mystery of two lunches on the TTC day-- Is it possible the BP one for the "balcony family" was a "working lunch?" I doubt it was IF the Cambridge kids or James W were included but we don't really know if they were. Could there have been military people included in the lunch? Or key people involved in accomplishing the pageantry that day? Mike didn't say that but it wasn't up to him to share what was happening elsewhere

3. I agree Meghan looks a lot younger in the B&W shot with the photographer's wife. Bizarrely younger. Absurdly younger. To me her age looks about the same as in some shots taken early on in the Suits years...2012 or so. Like this one: https://www.popsugar.com/beauty/photo-gallery/44302286/image/46295726/Meghan-Markle-Long-Cocoa-Colored-Layers-2012/amp

It's hard to tell from the side with a child all over her front but her waist also looks lower so I wonder if her body was digitally "stretched." And a younger face pasted on.

4. It is odd there's no picture of LD with her face painted. And nothing on the adults. What we do see on the two girls is pretty bad. Like @Ian's Girl I would have expected a blanket or quilt under LD. BUT I'm not sure why there's a lighter green strip on the ground. Is she on a path of some sort? The pics of Charlotte kind of gave me the creeps for the same reason. Except there there was more growth...bluebells? But where I live beautiful fields of wild flowers have creepy crawly things in them (and sometimes snakes)
Karla said…
Queen Meets Lilibet During Private Lunch at Windsor Castle

"Queen Elizabeth has met Lilibet, the 1-year-old daughter of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle who was named after her.

The meeting happened at Windsor Castle, where the couple and their family were invited to join the queen for lunch Thursday, after they attended the official birthday celebrations for the queen known as Trooping the Color"

Omid Scobie, the author who is thought to be close to the Sussexes, told the BBC that the meeting had happened.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/queen-meets-lilibet-during-private-lunch-at-windsor-castle-omid-scobie-claims


But...




Mike Tindall reveals royals who were not on balcony during Trooping the Colour held 'outstanding' secret lunch on Thursday - although Harry and Meghan didn't attend
Zara Phillips' ex-rugby star husband, 43, admitted the meal with his wife's cousins and their partners in London after the Trooping the Colour on Thursday was one of his 'highlights' of the Platinum Jubilee.

He revealed that while the Queen, Prince Charles, Camilla, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and others on the balcony at the event had a meal at Buckingham Palace afterwards - 'the cousins' who watched from the Major General's Office overlooking Horse Guards Parade went for a lunch.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10896165/Mike-Tindall-reveals-outstanding-cousins-lunch-Harry-Meghan-didnt-attend.html
SwampWoman said…
Fifi LaRue said...
@xxxx: Too bad about Deranged's hair. I've seen/known many mixed race women with various degrees of curly hair. Curly hair can be quite glorious with proper styling and products. * should take about a year to lay low, let her hair grow out naturally, and start working with a stylist to get that full head of curly hair rocking. Or, let it grow out naturally, and cut it short, ala Haille Berry or Jada Smith. With Deranged's 10 - 12% African American, her hair should be quite easily brought into its full natural glory.


Indeed. Genetics are funny. Grandniece has beautiful, stick-straight dark auburn hair and dark skin. Due to her hair, she is assumed to be from India. Grandson has some beautiful curls but it can get kinked very quickly in the heat and humidity.
Sandie said…
@Karla
The Queen is superhuman and can be in two places at the same time!

All the sources spouting stories about the meeting with the Queen are Sussex PR fantasist.

The timelines are becoming blurred for me, but I do not think there was time for them to meet with the Queen in Windsor. They would have seen her at BP as she did an appearance on the balcony for TTC and they were there because they were photographed through an open door. But there was no sweet get together to meet the children.

Maybe there was a Zoom call to say 'Hello Granny, thanks for sending a car and van to fetch us from the airport'.
xxxxx said…
Fifi LaRue said...
@xxxx: Too bad about Deranged's hair. I've seen/known many mixed race women with various degrees of curly hair. Curly hair can be quite glorious with proper styling and products. * should take about a year to lay low, let her hair grow out naturally, and start working with a stylist to get that full head of curly hair rocking. Or, let it grow out naturally, and cut it short, ala Haille Berry or Jada Smith. With Deranged's 10 - 12% African American, her hair should be quite easily brought into its full natural glory.

I have to go against one thing here. It is claimed that among US blacks, that on average they are 70% African and 30% European. Doria looks to be within this range. This will make Meghan's background 35% African heritage. Not 10-12%.

_____________________

https://www.theroot.com/exactly-how-black-is-black-america-1790895185
Exactly How "Black" Are Black Americans?

* According to Ancestry.com, the average African American is 65 percent sub-Saharan African, 29 percent European and 2 percent Native American.

* According to 23andme.com, the average African American is 75 percent sub-Saharan African, 22 percent European and only 0.6 percent Native American.

* According to Family Tree DNA.com, the average African American is 72.95 percent sub-Saharan African, 22.83 percent European and 1.7 percent Native American.

* According to National Geographic's Genographic Project, the average African American is 80 percent sub-Saharan African, 19 percent European and 1 percent Native American.

* According to AfricanDNA, in which I am a partner with Family Tree DNA, the average African American is 79 percent sub-Saharan African, 19 percent European and 2 percent Native American.
Karla said…
@Sandy❤️
If Harry & Meghan had attended this cousins’ lunch on Thursday, Omid Scoby would not have been speculating to all and sundry about how H&M were in Windsor and “could” have been having lunch with The Queen (problem was, HM was lunching w/Senior royals in Buckingham Palace. Omid getting caught up in his lies.

...

And I think Lili's photo was posted to take the shine Cambridge's children. Omid Scobie accused of leading hate towards Cambridge's children.
....

Richard Eden
@richardaeden
Daily Mail Diary Editor and @Mailplus
broadcaster.
"Was #Meghan's cheerleader Omid Scobie 'inciting hate' with his post about the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's children?"
https://mobile.twitter.com/richardaeden/status/1534065094879064065

And leading TTs today: # OmidScobieEnablesHate


https://twitter.com/KaylaAdams___/status/1534561153287917568?s=20&t=2-D36tWi0ObByY_6EHuhxw
Ian's Girl said…
@Magatha Mistie, how many ways can I say you're brilliant?! And how many thanks yous am I behind in offering, for so many chuckles and outright belly laughs?!
DesignDoctor said…
Dan Wooten and Megan Kelly on the hypocrisy;

https://youtu.be/mduNAa5oJ48
Fifi LaRue said…
@xxxx: Doria's mother was white, and the rest of the maternal family. Doria's father was black. That's where I got my math. So, if we're going by your math, we can dilute Deranged's African ancestry even further, maybe less than 10%, but enough to give her enough racial features that she's spent most of her life from age 13 onward trying desperately to erase them.
Fifi LaRue said…
@xxxx: Doria's mother was white, and the rest of the maternal family. Doria's father was black. That's where I got my math. So, if we're going by your math, we can dilute Deranged's African ancestry even further, maybe less than 10%, but enough to give her enough racial features that she's spent most of her life from age 13 onward trying desperately to erase them.
Observant One said…
I find it interesting that there is no picture of Lilibucks with her birthday cake. I don’t know UK birthday customs, but in the US, it is the norm to take a picture of the baby with their first birthday cake. In addition, i find it odd that her father and poor, invisible Archie are nowhere to be seen.

* displays such disorganized behavior and is so impulsive that I am suspect of everything now. We have no irrefutable evidence that either of these children exist. I might believe it if the Queen or Charles confirm it with photos of children who look like they could be related.
Fifi LaRue said…
As Hikari reminds us, everything that comes out of Troll's mouth is a lie. Lying is what she does. She knows nothing else.
Troll must be quite deranged to lie constantly, because she wouldn't be able to keep track of her lies. Nor remember them. And Twit believes whatever she says? He is more vulnerable than anyone imagined, but still, little boys know the difference between good and bad, and Little Boy Twit has chosen to go with bad, just because.

One of the narcissists I spent close time with would lie about her age and birthday, even to the point of making herself older, because it fit in with a momentary conversation with a stranger. Pretending to connect. Mind boggling.

Slightly OT: reading a Hollywood insider's memoir, and having a mansion involves HUGE amounts of money on a weekly and monthly basis. It is staggering how much is needed to retain a gardener, security, housekeepers, etc., taxes, etc., etc.
Apparently they are not at the end yet of Twit's money.

I'm thinking Twit went to the Jubilee with the partial intent of getting money from Charles, or a payout from Granny. Getting stuck on the other side of the church, in the second or third row, in the middle (sardine class) sent him a loud and clear message.
Museumstop said…
Ohhh just read this post on reddit by secondhandcoke


ALLEGEDLY

A few people on a different thread summoned me to ask if I had anything to share now that the Jubilee is over and the Sussexes are stateside again. Here's what I've been told by my source:

Oh-kay. Well, Netflix is pissed about everything when it comes to Harry and Meghan, but Netflix knew a couple of weeks ago that they would get zero access to get any Jubilee footage, neither outside among the crowds, nor inside even relatively public royal spaces. They also knew way back then that the copyright to even still photography with the Queen would belong to the Royal Family, and therefore would be worth exactly nothing to Netflix. So inititially didn't have any expectations of getting insider access through Harry and Meghan, but then Meghan had an idea that got Netflix's hopes up again... allegedly.

So despite being clearly told they would NOT feature in the Jubilee, and that Netflix would have no access to anything. Despite this, Meghan thought... she allegedly actually thought... that she was going to get around it all by hosting a First Birthday Garden Party for Lilibet at Frogmore Cottage. Meghan thought that she'd be able to use this event to give Netflix some hope of at least having exclusive Lili's-birthday- party-attended-by-real-Royals.

So the Sussexes (well, okay MEGHAN) planned this party, hired a "personal photographer and videographer," and invited family members and various celebrities to drop in at Frogmore for this garden birthday party. So this is how Meghan and Netflix hoped to get some exclusive footage of Royals and celebrities at this birthday party, but then it all went to Hell in a handbasket when even minor Royals were too busy to attend because of... you know, the goddamn PLATINUM JUBILEE?

First of all, Meghan, the self-described "whip smart polymath," thought everyone would stop their Platinum Jubileeing, you know, stop celebrating this event that has never happened before in all of history and will likely not happen again in anyone's lifetime, to go to Lili's first birthday party so that Meghan could get some footage for Netflix.

Needless to say, it flopped. What I've been told is that no one who wasn't a vendor even came, hence the pic with the cake baker. The Sussex PR has been spreading rumors that the Tindall's attended, but my information is that they did not, but regardless of if they did or not, they would not have authorized video or pictures of themselves or their children. The van Straubenzees supposedly also came too, but this is either a lie (it's a lie) or they also forbade pictures of themselves with their children.

So the June 4th Garden Party was a flop. And it pissed Meghan all the way off. She was so pissed off that that is why they left and arrived home in LA on Sunday, June 5.

Now of course, all of this is alleged... but come on who are we kidding? Every detail may not be conpletely accurate, but this is pretty much what went down. And thus Netflix hoped again that the Sussexes would deliver on something, in this case, behind the scenes footage of Lili's party, and were left with a bunch of fucking nothing, just like with every other promise Meghan Markle has failed to fulfil.

That is the story I heard.... well... it's the story I eventually heard because my brother couldn't stop laughing while he told it to me.... he does not work for Netflix, but the brass at the other major production companies are really finding every new-Markle-fueled fuck up to be more and more hilarious. Netflix's reputation continues to tank alongside these jackasses...

Allegedly.
Enbrethiliel said…
The Body Language Guy's latest: Harry and Meghan caught BLACKMAILING the Royal Family

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLaw4Kw3mP8

The entire video feels like an intentional troll of *, from calling her a "spoiled brat" at the beginning to including a photo of Thomas Markle next to "Lili." There's even a totally gratuitous mention of Catherine at the end. I love BLG!
According to Mike Tindall, Maggot and Mole did not attend the private lunch after Trooping the Colour, instead they went straight back to Frogmore cottage (Lady C confirmed this on Sunday). Scabies caught with his pants down lying again because he said Maggot and Mole took Lil to meet the Queen then, no-one can be in two places at once!πŸ˜‚πŸ˜³

Mike Tindall reveals royals who were not on balcony during Trooping the Colour held 'outstanding' secret lunch on Thursday - although Harry and Meghan didn't attend….


* Ex-rugby star told podcast how much he enjoyed the Jubilee, especially a lunch with cousins last Thursday
* But is understood Harry and Meghan didn't attend - and went straight to Windsor after Trooping the Colour
* William and Kate had lunch with the Queen, Prince Charles and other senior royals on the balcony with them…


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10896165/Mike-Tindall-reveals-outstanding-cousins-lunch-Harry-Meghan-didnt-attend.html
Apologies KarlaI just saw your comment regarding the lies of Scabies and the lunch date with The Queen and Lil. πŸ₯΄
I chanced on Amol Rajan's twitter account - he was busily inciting hate against Duchess Catherine - IIRC he was felt he wanted to chuck bricks at her. Just shows what sort of people are employed by the BBC these days.
Sandie said…
https://ladykinrannoch.tumblr.com/post/686508123289174016/theroyalsandi-the-earl-and-countess-of-wessex

Hope the link works ... very childish of me, but I giggle uncontrollably when I see this!

The way Bea and Edo look over at the duo! Edo feeling uncomfortable, thus adjusting his collar. Sophie looking stern, Eugenie steadfastly looking ahead. Edward, like Jack, is like a friendly puppy dog ... all big smiles and friendliness. A perfect snapshot of the dynamics around the couple at that service!
Sandie said…
From an account that has gone private, but much too good not to share ... an excellent summing up of the absurdity of it all:

PART I
scorpiotwentythree

Because my darlings, remember that she didn´t “know much about Harry”… or the BRF.
She wasn´t aware “there was a global interest” !
While I don´t believe her shit for a single second, I do however believe that she honestly didn´t give two figs when it came to educating herself as much on the history of the monarchy and the individual members´ life stories as would have been necessary for her to understand how much crap the Windsors had to endure since the beginning of the last century.

The Queen mother got the ugly nickname “cookie” (for being short and chubby), and was called an alcoholic and spendthrift.

The Queen got lambasted when she chose Prince Philip as a husband - he openly got called “the Nazi”. And believe me, back in the day (hell, even today!) there was no worse insult in the world than being called a Nazi, because you were thrown into one pot with each and every fanatic member of Hitler´s regime who had happily and willingly disowned, raped, tortured and massacred MILLIONS of people.

Princess Margaret got called an alcoholic and chain smoker (which she was), a nympho and sex addict (which she pretty much was as well), a spendthrift, bossy, snappish, conceited, “the worst party guest” -> quote of a former friend who came to hate her: “I have been at the same house parties as her and her arrogance, her petulance, her rudeness and her plain bad manners were awful.” The historian A.L Rowse had met her at a garden party at Buckingham Palace in 1956, and after studying her during the event, he then wrote this about her: “A bored, mΓ©contente, ready to burst out against it all: A Duke of Windsor among the women of the Royal Family.” Basically insulting her to be mannish, which at the time was one of the worst things you could have ever said about a woman, and especially about such a beautiful young Princess.

Princess Anne was equally called “rude, arrogant, miserable and cold”, she had the reputation of going off on people and insulting them terribly, her father said about her “if it doesn´t eat grass and fart, she´s not interested”, because she cared only for horses - not for people. The press dubbed her “Her Royal Rudeness” and gave her the title “Most Hated Royal.” When her first husband Mark Philips cheated on her and fathered a child outside of his marriage, the press slaughtered Anne. All the pent up anger unloaded and they let her have it. They sure didn´t “respect her privacy at this difficult time”! Go have a chat with her about that, Rachel, and see what Anne has to say about your whining.

Prince Charles has been called Dumbo Ears, a weakling, a coward, a philanderer, an adulterer, an abuser, unfit to be King. So far nothing has surpassed the War of the Waleses and that absolutely disastrous decade when his and Diana´s marriage fell apart. We had the Andrew Morton book. We had Panorama Interview. We had “Squidgy-gate” and “Tampon-gate”. Jesus Christ, I will never forget how the press ripped into him and Camilla when they got their hands on these hacked private phone calls, and they didn´t give a shit and published it all! We also got to hear about almost each and every guy Diana fucked outside of the marriage, we got the “James Hewitt is Harry´s dad” thing (that lasts until this day).
Sandie said…
PARTIi

Camilla was called a whore, a home wrecker, a slut, the most hated woman in Britain, Rottweiler, horseface.

Prince Andrew was called Randy Andy, Airmiles Andy, until this day it´s rumored that he´s not Philip´s but Lord Porchester´s son - meaning the Queen was a cheating whore - and thus he got the nickname “Porky”. This fit beautifully with the press they spun on wife Sarah. She was dubbed “The Duchess of Pork” because of her weight problems, and the press had no qualms writing about her in that way. Then came the pedo thing, and it´s something Andrew will never shake off for the rest of his life, no matter what they find out about Epstein and the entire pedophilia scandals.

The York girls were called the ugliest Princesses of the realm, horrid dressers, fat, ugly, googly eyes, “Cinderella´s evil ugly sisters” when they showed up to a wedding in not very flattering outfits. Both Eugenie and Bea admitted in an interview that they sobbed and cried terribly when they read those word that day.

Catherine was accused of having stalked William, being lazy, “faking a posh accent”, her family got insulted for having worked for British Airways “Carol the trolley dolly”) Carol the Jew, Carol the social climber and gold digger. She got insulted as “Waity Katie”, they said and still say “she´s never worked a day in her life”, and until this day she gets called dull, boring, “old looking”, “anorexic”, work shy, “all she does is pop out sprogs”.

Prince Edward has been called gay, queer, a weakling, a coward who couldn´t make it in the military, people ridiculed him when he tried to be an actor and surrounded himself with people of the arts, his marriage to Sophie gets called a sham -> “she´s his beard”.

But of course only with Rachel it´s unfair, because -> racist. The others had it so much easier because they don´t have melanin. It´s okay to shit on white people. Has been a new trend for a good while now, don´t you know?

And after all, they are just boring Brits - while she on the other hand is this exciting, hard working, independent, feminist humanitarian actress and blogger and whip smart NU graduate and UN advocate and she´s been championing women´s rights and writing about menstruation and tampons. And she can cook, she can grill lettuce and shmear avocado toast, and she knows how to make smoothies. She is so nice and considerate to mail wedding rings back to husbands she no longer wants, and to dump longterm live-in boyfriends after a romantic getaway in Mexico when she meets a Prince that´s more to her liking. She can calligraphy in ways so that not even the ancient Egyptians who wrote hieroglyphs could read her shit, she has magical boobs, she knows what holes in bread are called, she knows about wine and whining, she curates and carefully crafts, and then she is also social media savvy, she can do five yoga poses, and have we already mentioned that heroic liquid dish soap thing she did at age eleven…. oh, we have? Several times already? Oh, my bad, I almost forgot! Because she only mentioned it 4.983.678 times since 2013.

It´s really unfair to be unfair to such a human gem. Most royal Royal that ever royaled on a world stage.
re racial percentages:

There's no indication of sample size, the spread of the percentages (by standard deviations), no indication of geographical spread/ where the subjects lived. Were they self -selected (just folk who are interested in their origins & have the cash to spare to find out? Were there different scales of fees for different ethnicities or location? Or were these figures from properly conducted surveys with adequate controls? All very questionable.

I think it was Which? in the UK that investigated the reliability of different testing firms by using the same individuals getting their DNA data from the different providers. All gave wildly different results for the same people. The best of a poor bunch was Ancestry, as judged by comparison with what was already known from other sources.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Board

The name Amol Rajan was familiar and I knew there was some controversy about him. The following will come as no surprise to you, you should know what sort of people the BBC employs...

'The Guardian wrote, "Amol Rajan, (...) is a declared republican who once branded the royal family as 'absurd' and the media as a 'propaganda outlet' for the monarchy."[32] In 2021, he publicly apologised for comments made in a 2012 article he wrote for The Independent, in which he described Prince Philip as a "racist buffoon" and Prince Charles as "scientifically illiterate", and for an open letter he sent to Prince William and his wife Catherine while the two were expecting their first child, in which he described their public role as a "total fraud", the Queen's Diamond Jubilee as a "celebration of mediocrity", and the royal family as a clan "unusually full of fools".' (Wikipedia)
What a sick, disgusting individual.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

I read that the Queen Mother was, allegedly, the daughter of a French cook, hence the nickname Cookie. I checked and in fact it's none other than Lady C herself who wrote that.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/04/18/queen-mother-lady-colin-campbell-french-cook-_n_1433853.html
@Observant One,

I don’t know of any set tradition in the UK regarding being photographed with the cake. With older children, photos are often taken with the birthday child blowing out the candles, but nothing more. πŸ₯΄

Not sure how many parents bother with actual party for a 1 year old, let alone a photo taken with a cake. πŸ˜ƒMaggot however, is not like other people, she needed an excuse to (lie) say she wasn’t completely cold shouldered by the royal family by saying they were there or at least invited! πŸ˜‚
Girl with a Hat said…
it should be easy to figure out when that black and white photo was taken.

The photographer must have social media accounts and from those, someone can figure out how old his daughters are. In the photo, his youngest daughter is still a toddler. There must be a recent photo of her somewhere.
Girl with a Hat said…
@WBBM,

in recent years, many Africans have immigrated to the USA. This was not the case for decades. I wonder how this would skew the genetic data.
CatEyes said…
@ Museum Stop
@ Sandie

Thankk you for your posts! As a Nuttie addict, I read these upon awakening today and Was laughing and almost cheering outloud about the characterization of *.

May many more articles and published public opinions put the'nail in the coffin' of the dastardly duo's attempt to obtain even a modicum of financial success going forward, since the BRF has successfully scuppered their royal credentials!
snarkyatherbest said…
Girl with the Hat. on his instagram the photographer’s wife and kids seem the current age. question is did someone photoshop herself into the pic. it’s her old nose and her pre wedding body.
@GWAH,

Surely we should be assuming that statistical genetic DNA data is taken from current living individuals (not from one’s from decades ago) so it won’t be out of date genetic data.πŸ₯΄

@WBBM, Even with Ancestry you don’t get 100% correct results. I only know this from a friend who did the test twice. Unless of course technology improved on how the data was analysed between the first and second test. πŸ₯΄

Whatever, Maggot will never care what the data said, unless there’s a a story to be told and sold. πŸ˜•
Let's Twist Again!!! Like we did last year!

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/harry-meghan-offered-william-kate-112100783.html

Nauseating article about how `TBW * H offered the Cambridges an olive branch' by inviting them to the party.

Let's Twist again like we did last summer...
Twisting time is here!
snarkyatherbest said…
So Misan Harriman just posted some invictus B&W pics on his twitter feet showing empathy harry. PR in full force. have we heard how thomas markle is doing? sure are deflecting from the disastrous Jubilee. and Harriman just happened to be there to capture a private moment.
Sandie said…
This olive branch is a load of nonsense. But it is typical self-absorbed narc behaviour. It was the Jubilee weekend. Everyone was busy, and besides the Yorks (Andrew and Sarah), the Wessexes and the Queen, it is a long way for anyone to travel to go to a birthday party on the busiest weekend of the year. Did they really expect everyone to fall over backwards to appease them? It was PR, it is PR, just like that pathetic story about trying to contact her father... and typical narc entitlement.

An olive branch would have been to stay a week after the Jubilee weekend and arrange private meetings with a basketful of apologies to hand over.

And what is this obsession with the Queen? An acknowledgement that his brother and father do not want to see him (the latter only if in the presence of the Queen and Camilla)? Targeting the one who has the power to give them what they want, in their opinion?
Girl with a Hat said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

you don't seem to understand my point - if previously, AA's had 50% black genes, but now that Africans are immigrating to the USA, that proportion could increase to 75%, so that NOW, the value is 75% for black Americans, but not for African Americans who have a long lineage in the USA, like Doria does.
Elsbeth1847 said…
I wonder if the real reason they were late was to try to get into one of the other cars with PW or PC as a status thing after being told they would be riding the bus with the others.
snarkyatherbest said…
Elsbeth1847. i think you are right. i think they wanted a grand entrance and if they were miked up maybe an interaction with the Cambridges or Charles and Camilla. foiled again

i am curious the Mail is running an article about what Zara and Harry talked about it. the interesting thing to me at one point she pointed turned her back to the cameras blocking everyone out and said something to them so we couldn’t see what was being said. perhaps she called them out on the trooping stunt and mike knew it was coming so he laid low than to get in the middle of mama bear πŸ˜‰

also gotta love mike. he gave us that the sussexes weren’t at lunch and the queen was having lunch with others. artfully debunked the stories without looking nasty. although i speculate they a good time rehashing the duo’s antics over lunch and cocktails
Este said…
this is what secondhandcoke says. It should be noted that this so-called Netflix source said she was told the Suck-its weren't coming to Jubilee. It does have ring of authenticity tho.


A few people on a different thread summoned me to ask if I had anything to share now that the Jubilee is over and the Sussexes are stateside again. Here's what I've been told by my source:

Oh-kay. Well, Netflix is pissed about everything when it comes to Harry and Meghan, but Netflix knew a couple of weeks ago that they would get zero access to get any Jubilee footage, neither outside among the crowds, nor inside even relatively public royal spaces. They also knew way back then that the copyright to even still photography with the Queen would belong to the Royal Family, and therefore would be worth exactly nothing to Netflix. So inititially didn't have any expectations of getting insider access through Harry and Meghan, but then Meghan had an idea that got Netflix's hopes up again... allegedly.

So despite being clearly told they would NOT feature in the Jubilee, and that Netflix would have no access to anything. Despite this, Meghan thought... she allegedly actually thought... that she was going to get around it all by hosting a First Birthday Garden Party for Lilibet at Frogmore Cottage. Meghan thought that she'd be able to use this event to give Netflix some hope of at least having exclusive Lili's-birthday- party-attended-by-real-Royals.

So the Sussexes (well, okay MEGHAN) planned this party, hired a "personal photographer and videographer," and invited family members and various celebrities to drop in at Frogmore for this garden birthday party. So this is how Meghan and Netflix hoped to get some exclusive footage of Royals and celebrities at this birthday party, but then it all went to Hell in a handbasket when even minor Royals were too busy to attend because of... you know, the goddamn PLATINUM JUBILEE?

First of all, Meghan, the self-described "whip smart polymath," thought everyone would stop their Platinum Jubileeing, you know, stop celebrating this event that has never happened before in all of history and will likely not happen again in anyone's lifetime, to go to Lili's first birthday party so that Meghan could get some footage for Netflix.

Needless to say, it flopped. What I've been told is that no one who wasn't a vendor even came, hence the pic with the cake baker. The Sussex PR has been spreading rumors that the Tindall's attended, but my information is that they did not, but regardless of if they did or not, they would not have authorized video or pictures of themselves or their children. The van Straubenzees supposedly also came too, but this is either a lie (it's a lie) or they also forbade pictures of themselves with their children.

So the June 4th Garden Party was a flop. And it pissed Meghan all the way off. She was so pissed off that that is why they left and arrived home in LA on Sunday, June 5.

Now of course, all of this is alleged... but come on who are we kidding? Every detail may not be conpletely accurate, but this is pretty much what went down. And thus Netflix hoped again that the Sussexes would deliver on something, in this case, behind the scenes footage of Lili's party, and were left with a bunch of fucking nothing, just like with every other promise Meghan Markle has failed to fulfil.

That is the story I heard.... well... it's the story I eventually heard because my brother couldn't stop laughing while he told it to me.... he does not work for Netflix, but the brass at the other major production companies are really finding every new-Markle-fueled fuck up to be more and more hilarious. Netflix's reputation continues to tank alongside these jackasses...

Allegedly.
Hikari said…
Last night while scrolling through my YouTube 'Shorts' on my phone, I came across the original color photo of the group allegedly at Lilibet's birthday party. It shows *'s natural highlighted hair from the 'Hot Girl on Plane' era (cf. "A Lot Like Love" with Ashton Kutcher). That movie was shot in 2005, or just a couple of years after *'s alleged graduation from NW.

I said 'college era' and I wasn't far off the mark. Of course I can't find it again today and I was not able to forward, save or do anything with it from my phone.

Someone has found the original photo and it was originally in color. So Smirks was at an event with two little girls and their mom and there was face-painting, but it wasn't last Saturday at Frogmore Cottage, Windsor. In case there was any doubt.
xxxxx said…
@Fifi LaRue

Going by Wikipedia, Doria's mother was not white --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doria_Ragland
Her father has a unique name, Alvin Azell Ragland, that is easily searched. A photo even crops up. He is black.

So I remain at Doria being some 70% African, while some 30% European. Making Meghan approximately 35% African heritage. Making her assumed babies approximately 17% African.
Sandie said…
'What I've been told is that no one who wasn't a vendor even came, hence the pic with the cake baker.'

I really enjoy the gossip from secondhandcoke, but it is often sloppy with details. There was no pic with the cake baker, because the cake baker was not there, but the baker did coyly post a pic of a birthday cake on social media. There were no vendors verified to be there, unless the photographer can be classified as a vendor. Him and his family made up the guest list.

Surely Netflix executives are not completely stupid and know that they cannot use photographs or film of royals for commercial purposes without permission. I really doubt that they were instructed to get recordings or video for any kind of documentary or reality show. Netflix know from doing The Crown that they cannot film on private royal or Crown estates. However, photos with senior royals in the media would enhance their status and thus perhaps make any documentary or reality show more marketable. Are they going to use the long walk of shame in St Paul's, because that is all they have as it was the only time that filming could be done without needing permission.

The dastardly duo made the mistake of thinking they have talent. They have none, and it turns out they are not even popular outside of the Sussex Squad and BLM movement. All they had was the BRF and they blew that one to smithereens. Senior royals, and even the Queen, won't even be photographed with them or engage with them in public. The only one who came close was friendly Uncle Edward, but they pretty much ignored him while doing that awkward shuffle to get to their middle of the second row seats (Jack might have, but no way were Edo and Beatrice giving up there allotted seats!)

I find it all rather sad, but wonder if they will sulk and skulk at home or will they do something really stupid like the Oprah interview again? Will her podcast series happen? How bad will it be, and will it be thrust down our throat like The Bench? Will he actually publish a memoir and how bad will it be? How damaging is the Tom Bower book? How many more court cases? Is bankruptcy looming in their future, and will Charles bail them out?
Mel said…
It should be noted that this so-called Netflix source said she was told the Suck-its weren't coming to Jubilee.
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I don't think they did plan to come to the Jubilee until she had that failed outing in Uvalde, Texas. She had to do something to take care of the extremely bad PR from that. Jubilee it is.

Maneki Neko said…
Ha ha! 'Biographer Angela Levin claims Prince Harry will want apology from royal family' after being largely ignored by the Royal Family. Wifey must have had a go at him for the two of them not getting better treatment. An apology? Sure, the Queen has probably already penned a letter to those two to apologise πŸ™„, like the 6s did after the Oprah interview.
(DM and several other news outlets).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10899767/Furious-Prince-Harry-wants-apology-royals.html
Sandie said…
https://pressgazette.co.uk/prince-harry-mail-on-sunday-libel/

Remember this?

Remember that a British court believed Amber Heard as a witness and concluded The Sun had not defamed Johnny when they called him a wife beater.

I think the judge will lean in favour of the petulant prince. But, if he does, it will open the door for a deluge of lawsuits against the tabloids because of their use of sensationalist headlines. That may be something the judge wants to do.

"In order to succeed in a defamation claim in the UK, a claimant now needs to establish: (i) the “publication” of a statement, (ii) that the statement was about the claimant, (iii) that the statement was defamatory to the claimant, and (iv) that the defamatory statement met the threshold of “serious harm”, that is, that publication of the statement has caused, or is likely to cause, serious harm to the reputation of the claimant."

"Defamation: the action of damaging the reputation of a person or group by saying or writing bad things about them that are not true"

So, instead of whining about hurting his feelings, he needs to prove that the article said things that were not true, and that the article damaged his reputation (serious harm).
abbyh said…
Could we (perhaps) stop about the percentages of this or that?

Interesting in some ways but my concerns would be that someone might find it ... upsetting (about the best neutral word I can think of) or think we are not being respectful about something no one has control over - how they came to be.

Maybe it has run the course and we ramble over to something else?

If you disagree with me, fine. Send me a comment. We're still on moderation.

Thanks
Elsbeth1847 said,

I wonder if the real reason they were late was to try to get into one of the other cars with PW or PC as a status thing after being told they would be riding the bus with the others.


According to Lady C in her YouTube video last Sunday, this was exactly their plan. The bus wasn’t good enough for their own perceived status. Because there wasn’t a car for them, this is why they arrived in a (with blacked out windows) security car that wasn’t intended for them. πŸ₯΄
Este said…
Listening to Lady C now. Her intel says Netflix are not happy campers with the Harry Meg and that their deal is hanging on by a thread. Oh dear, oh dear.
Este said…
Her rolling down the window so that she could be seen in the procession just blows out of the water their weak as tea argument for why they travel by private jet and need their own security because their lives are just sooooo under threat! They are such fools and totally blundered that visit.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10897763/A-glimpse-royal-cousins-lunch.html

Sorry to go on about this, but from the above article:

The cousins seem to have watched TTC and the fly past at the parade ground and then have a lunch together somewhere. (Did they have lunch at BP?)

Working royals also watched TTC at the parade grounds but then returned to BP, where the Queen and the Duke of Kent were waiting, to watch the end of the ceremony and the fly past, and had lunch at BP.

Why did the duo go to BP after watching TTC at the parade grounds if they were not going to appear on the balcony and were not invited to the lunch with the working royals?
Mel said…
So frustrating how her trashy visit to Uvalde fell off the radar.
Also interesting that she seems not to have jumped on the gun safety band wagon.

I wonder what her next bandwagon will be.
I've found some photos from `A Lot Like Love'(2005) at the DM dated 2017

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4301044/Meghan-Markle-alongside-Ashton-Kutcher-film-role.html

Sadly not the one we need but it gives an idea of her appearance at that time. My goodness, those sponge-rubber bra Cups!
Mel said…
A whole gob of articles came out this morning about PW volunteering to sell a magazine.

Within a very short time their photographer came out with 2 pictures of Harry greeting people in wheelchairs at IG.

Think IG or Archewell was paying for that photographer and his expenses? And his whole family?
Apologies, I can't now find who suggested they were trying to cadge a lift with the Cornwalls or Cambridges.

Excellent suggestion! Perhaps they decided to force the issue by deliberately missing the bus? Was that the same car they used to get to Clarence House? Should have been made to walk!

On a lighter note - what do you think of this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-61747092
abbyh said…
I got the messages.

Thank you and I agree with what you said.
Sandie said…
The story about the bus and the car makes no sense. They would have had a car, with a driver at least and maybe a bodyguard, provided by the Queen, which they used to travel from FC.

Why would they leave the car and security, provided by taxpayers as decreed by the Queen, and then get on a bus? The two York sisters and their husbands did not use the bus, but used cars with drivers. Peter, Zara and Mike supposedly did use the bus, but they were staying in a hotel in that vicinity and probably found it easier to get on the bus than retrieve their vehicles, negotiate traffic and find parking.

Did they appear to come from Clarence House because they were indeed visiting Charles, or were they simply rendezvousing with the Yorks at the car park at St James Palace (same access road as the one for Clarence House where they were spotted in a convoy)? Both seem unlikely but one of the two must be true.

Or is everyone saying that the York sisters and husbands were also supposed to be on the bus?

I don't think the bus is a sign of status but a matter of convenience (no driver or parking required). The duo did not need to use the bus because they not only had a car but also security, provided by taxpayers as decided by the Queen.
Henrietta said…
Sandie said:

Why did the duo go to BP after watching TTC at the parade grounds if they were not going to appear on the balcony and were not invited to the lunch with the working royals?

Probably for the same reason they showed up at the anniversary celebration of PC's investiture as the Prince of Wales: to try to worm their way in.
Elsbeth1847 said…
Thank you Raspberry Ruffle

I haven't watched her in a long time.

Thinking about the comments regarding secondhandcoke.

I read the posts, they made sense (fit the narrative well), liked them but I always got the same feeling about it as I did from the friend/source for Skippy (isn't that a blast from the past). Always a little too convenient but always with what sounded like there was a fair amount of truth to it.

That said, I believe it was SHC who said something about the moneyshot isn't what you think it is. Which didn't make sense with all the play up about Lilibet and Lilibet. Really? What else could it be?

But ... what if it was being photographed with his brother or father in the ride to the service?

Oh the inches and inches of ink about the happy family once more. A whole section of the paper would likely be devoted to the why and now the happy ever after ending.

It would be all the more a twisting of the knife if then, in the book, he could point to it and say that behind the scenes all manner of not nice behavior was said/done to him/them. And so on.

Sandie said…
Forgive my cynicism, but I lost count of the number of errors and the made-up rubbish in the following article:

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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Tried to “Mend Fences” With the Royals but “Ran Into a Brick Wall”​

“They expected to have a warmer welcome than what they received.”

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry put aside their drama with the royal family and showed up to support the Queen during her Platinum Jubilee, but apparently their reunion with the royals wasn’t exactly smooth sailing.

Royal expert and author Christopher Andersen tells Us Weekly that Meghan and Harry’s attempts to “mend fences” didn’t go well and that palace officials “sidelined” them during official events.

“They went there hoping to mend fences and ran into a brick wall,” he told Us Weekly, noting that he was “was personally surprised” that Meghan and Harry were “excluded” from the royals’ balcony appearance during Trooping the Colour.

“I thought that there would be an opportunity for [Harry] to show up there to show the solidarity [and] the future of the monarchy,” he said. “I’m sure they expected to have a warmer welcome than what they received.”

Prince William and Kate Middleton also didn’t make it to the party Meghan and Harry threw for their daughter Lilibet’s 1st birthday, although a source previously said, “It was purely coincidental. Harry is coming back to visit soon and hopes to see William in person. They are trying to figure things out. Harry and Meghan had a wonderful time seeing the Queen again. It was one of the biggest highlights of their year so far.”

And when it comes to the balcony, Buckingham Palace did warn everyone in advance that the moment would be for working royals only—meaning Harry and Meghan (along with Harry’s cousins Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice, and his aunt Princess Anne) were not going to attend!
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https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a40239193/prince-harry-meghan-markle-hit-brick-wall-royals/
Karla said…
Sandy ❤️I was confused

REF: What went on BEFORE the royal cousins' secret Jubilee lunch: How the Queen's grandchildren and their families gathered on St James's Palace roof to watch the flypast before an 'outstanding' meal together.

...

"It appears Harry and Meghan didn't attend and returned immediately to Windsor, ( not BP) suggesting that it was just the York sisters, their children, and Peter Philips and his daughters as well as the Tindalls at the event"

"FEMAIL understands that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, who had watched the event with the Tindalls, went straight back to Frogmore Cottage and did not join in on the lunch"
Sandie said…
Order of Precedence explains it all. The three couples were seated together because they were expected to arrive together, travelling in cars, and walk into the cathedral together. The duo messed up the plan by dawdling and walking down the aisle alone as if they were on a date, and then faced the unexpected reality of where they were seated.

Unless all three couples were supposed to arrive before the working Royals (the order in which they left the cathedral). A concession by the Queen or an act of defiance by the three couples?
TheGrangle said…
Tom Bowers book is eagerly awaited and his reputation precedes him. However, I’d be surprised if he revealed anything that the RF hadn’t authorized to be revealed, if you get my gist. He’s not lost a lawsuit because he’s thorough, but this is the Royal Family and I think his finished book may be a better indication than the Jubilee celebrations as to the underlying complications and Harry’s (as opposed to his tart) place within the family.


Sandie said…
The tea about the money shot not being what we think it is was from the Blind Gossip site.

The real money shot would be a photograph with the Queen and the top four Royals and the Cambridge children. They were denied that, even in the candid shots taken through windows and open doors to a balcony.

My guess is that if they did turn up for the concert or parade they would have been seated far away from the top royals and would have had minders, but I think they were deftly manoeuvred to decline invitions to those events.
@Sandie,

A lot of the minor and working and non royals royals used the bus, I can’t give specifics who was on the bus but the bus is used for a lot of royal family events. Essentially it doesn’t matter.

As per Lady C’s info and contacts, the duo was allocated the bus to go to St. Paul’s. They were not allocated a car or driver. Given they were no longer working royals, they were also individuals who had stabbed their family and country in the back…the bus was deemed fitting. Otherwise they would have been given a car like all the other senior working royals. The Duo were purposely late because they knew they were given the bus as their mode of transport, they themselves felt the bus was not fitting with their perceived status. By being late they missed the bus and thus had to have a car deemed for security personnel. Cars used by royals tend not to have blacked out windows. 😡‍πŸ’«

Mole went from a respected and liked working Royal to a second row non working royal in the not so important corner of St.Paul’s. πŸ₯΄
Hikari said…
It is such a larf that Harry & Mugsy are livid about not being treated with more warmth by the Royal Family and welcomed back to their ordained (in their own minds) sphere on the BP balcony next to the Queen. After the Oprah interview. After Harry refused to see his dying grandfather (though PP may have barred the Ginger Tw*t from his room. He would totally have done that.) After making international spectacles of themselves on various American chat telly shows and turning up at a memorial for murdered children and continuously inserting their slimy oar into American politics. Any *one* of these gaffes was humiliating enough to the Queen to warrant the treatment they got but they are beyond the pale with their behavior. Every day a new scandal and more stupidity emanating from California.

I really have come to believe that both of the Harkles suffer from such deep-seated personality and mental disorders, exacerbated by substance abuse, that maybe they don't remember their bad deeds from one week to the next. They are like brain-damaged children with no sense of object permanence in a way--if they forget about something, they expect that everyone else will have, too. Or they have so totally self-justified all their behavior, they are offended that anyone else would be offended by something which they consider to be ancient past. 'Ancient past' to them is anything that occurred more than a week ago. Their egos have woven a self-protective cocoon of curated amnesia and denial around them, whereby they have zero sense of self-recrimination or regret about any of their actions. Everyone else surrounding them is always in the wrong but never themselves. They are the perpetually sinned against but never sinning.

It really is extraordinary that 1. two such individuals with such a selective grasp on reality should exist and 2. that they glommed onto each other.

This is why, in former days, when a monarch had to put down an insurrection--he/she *put down* in the most definitive way possible, the instigators of said insurrection. Because otherwise it would never stop and the sovereign would know nothing but harassment and fears for their security forever.

Political executions are out of fashion among civilized nations. Which means that we will be dealing with H & M's idiocy for decades to come.

Fifi LaRue said…
@Mel: Troll did not jump on the gun safety issue because then she would have been deluged with requests for $$$ to finance politicians' campaigns. She wanted a photo op, she doesn't care about the issue because it doesn't serve her purposes.
snarkyatherbest said…
i think the york girls arrived in a mini van at least per the pics in the daily mail. Other royals came in the bus.
@Sandie,

The Order of Precedence. Royal events are carefully choreographed. Everyone knows their place.

Did you or can you watch the Thanksgiving Service aired by the BBC? There was 2 presenters, one David Dimbleby and a lady who’s name I didn’t catch. They clearly stated that it’s all carefully choreographed and they went into detail regarding the above and said The Queen herself would be advising etc.

If the Queen had been attending the service, Charles was going to walk with her and Camilla, William and Catherine behind. Because The Queen cancelled the two couples arrived separately.

Maggot and Mole deliberating arrived late and after the Wessex’s when they were supposed to be before them and on the bus. The order of precedence didn’t apply at this point! The Queen put the Duo in their place by demoting them! This is one of the reasons why they were livid and another reason why they left the UK early.

Taken from a comment I made on 3rd June….

When Maggot and Mole arrived and was lining up to walk down the aisle, the female royal reporter (sorry I don’t remember her name), said they had been given a bit of a procession of their own (and later added they are no longer working royals) and that the Queen probably had a hand in. All these things are choreographed in, and David Dimbleby added that nothing happens by chance.

So Maggot and Mole were given their own procession, their own league amongst the other royals. A league of their own….the losers league, the outsiders league….. most fitting! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Hikari said…
RR,

And yet Great Gan-Gan loves the Harkles SOOOO much, despite the demotion, that she was among the party guests at FroggyCot Saturday last. Yes, indeed . . The monarch was in too much pain to attend church the previous day but not to sit on the ground and enjoy 'picnic style snacks and games' with a one-year-old and her invisible brother. Cosmopolitan has got that scoop!

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/insider-spilled-why-meghan-markle-135300459.html

As for their low profile at the Jubilee, it was 'intentional', says Cosmo (yes, but from whom . ?) . . Oh, the duo had no wish to overshadow the Queen, you see, because they are 'no longer working Royals'. This grants them a 'distinction' not shared by the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge who are still 'trapped' on the Royal hamster wheel of duty.

Yes, Rachel is so selfless . . they 'only' wanted to see the Queen . . and they did.

How far is it from St. James's to Buck House? Can a tiny 96-year-old lady in platinum silver been seen by the naked eye from inside? Because that's how much Harry and * 'saw the Queen', unless they watched her on TV.
snarkyatherbest said…
Raspberry. they were the “winners” of the consolation bracket.

that being said maybe bbc thought they came when they were suppose to. i am still of the opinion they came late so they could get a bigger shot without anyone else walking in it. the other royals mostly came from clarence house which is adjacent to st james palace so when abc (didn’t fake barbie ken per the BLG work for ABC) noted they were seen leaving clarence house i still think if true they likely were suppose to arrive enmasse with the other royals. otherwise they would have driven directly to the cathedral. and they wouldn’t be in a car with blacked out windows. (how rude no one could get the iconic shot ). given where they were sitting i doubt the queen wanted a separate procession for them. given where she put them (or approved of where they were put) she wanted them lumped in together
Rebecca said…
I confess to being a little confused about Their arrival at St. Paul’s. I can believe that they would deliberately show up late to Clarence House for the bus ride to the Cathedral. But would it have been a snap to get them a chauffeured car at the last minute?
Wouldn’t they have arrived quite a bit later than the those taking the bus? Their car seemed to pull up not long after Beatrice, Eugenie et al.

Tom Bower believes Hazbeen will try and add more bombshell revelations to his memoir in reaction to being largely iced out by the RF. Bower praised the family for its handling of H and M but called it a “dangerous game” because the couple are so volatile and vengeful.
Girl with a Hat said…
Lady C says that they took someone else's ride coming out of the service.

Think about it - if they had to take the bus there, they should have had to take the bus back. But, when they were on the steps talking to Zara Tindall, they said that their ride was the Range Rover that had just pulled up. They even said "Range Rover", so they hijacked someone else's ride back....

Talk about chutzpah.

That reminds me of about the definition of chutzpah I once heard: Chutzpah is someone who murders their parents and throws themselves at the mercy of the court because that person is an orphan
snarkyatherbest said…
oh dear i think we gonna have to open a separate blog on Princess Martha Louise of Norway. she and her intended a self described Shaman posted long interview on instagram. a lot of woke things like racism in the europe’s. monarchies, white privileged and her vision on where the proposal should take place and that she accepts his homosexuality. oh dear. the BRF are thinking geez we had amateur hour compared to these two. Markle is gonna have to up her game if she wants to stay number 1 on the grifter competition.
Blue Dragon said…
Maneki Neko and Sandie Re: Queen Mum's nickname

I read that the Duchess of Windsor and her friends referred to the Queen Mum as Cookie and it was something to do with a smear that her father was actually the family's french cook. Aline Countess off Romanoes was a friend of the Duchess of Windsor and she mentions this in one of her books. It's either in The Spy Wore Red or The Spy Went Dancing but I can't remember which one. Both books were good holiday reading.
Girl with a Hat said…
The Traitor was also wearing a microphone along with his wife, the Twat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufMohAYZwc0

go to the very end of this short video for the proof.
Do we honestly believe someone could make them get on a bus, be it getting there or getting back? No, I seriously don’t think so.πŸ₯Ί There was no way they would be allowed to share a car with either William or Charles after they arrived late.

They didn’t want to be demoted, they thought they’d be sitting with the other senior working royals. They tried to outwit the Queen and royal family. What don’t this pair not understand? 😡‍πŸ’«Nothing is left to chance, they got the status and treatment they truly deserve served on a dish by - The Queen!
@GWAH,

The photos prove it wasn’t a Range Rover taking them back though, that window was from a saloon type car. If a car is purposely allocated…it would be theirs going and returning. They tried artfully to pull a fast one, but they failed and still got out manoeuvred!

@ Hikari,

The Queen and the rest of the family played it all perfectly! 😜
I’ve just doubled checked the photos… they were taken after trooping the colour and not after the Thanksgiving Service, that’s why the car was different. My error on that one! πŸ₯΄
DesignDoctor said…
https://mobile.twitter.com/memesbyky/status/1534246359846555649/photo/1

Link to funny pic of * wired up at the Thanksgiving service. She thinks she is so wily and clever. NOT.
Magatha Mistie said…

🎀
Apologies:
Clarence Frogman Henry
I Don’t Know Why I Love You
But I Do

Wholly the Lowly

We all know why we loathe you
yes we do
We don’t know why you lie so
but it’s true
We know that you’re so homely
common cheap and lowly
We all know that you’re loathsome
that’s just you…

Girl with a Hat said…
@Raspberry ruffle,

but they say to Zara that theirs is the Range Rover that is arriving.

Are you sure the photo of the rolled down window was after the service?
Martha said…
I thought the rolled down window was the Trooping day...in which she was in the window shushing the children
Girl with a Hat said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

sorry, your comment hadn't been posted when I wrote mine.
Mel said…
Saw this elsewhere....don't know if it's true.

Supposedly the seat behind them, where the hot guy was sitting, was empty when they were wrangling in the aisle about where to sit.

So...when did he arrive at his seat? Was that televised?
Was he waiting to be seated until he saw where the Harkles landed?
Mel said…
Did anyone notice how flushed Edo's face was?
Embarrassed? Or just uncomfortable?
Mimi said…
Magatha, another brilliant song. Love it,
Magatha Mistie said…

@Enbreth@Ian’s Girl
Many thanks πŸ˜‰

@WildBoar
Following your “Twist Again”

🎡 Round and round
and up and down
the pole she goes
Twisted sister’s knickers
in a knot, yo-yos…🎡

Sandie said…
"Royal Gossip Says Prince Harry’s Memoir Has Apparently Been Rejected By Publisher Multiple Times
Sources say Harry has gone through draft and draft trying to get it right."

https://www.suggest.com/prince-harry-memoir-royal-gossip-rejected-multiple-times-publisher/2655483/

The above story is doing the rounds. I find it rather strange as he is supposed to be working with the most experienced and successful ghost writer in the industry.

One of the claims in the story is that the MS goes on endlessly about wellness. Sounds like wifey is writing the memoirs for him!
Here's the next court case:

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/harry-waits-ruling-preliminary-issues-114246484.html

He's having another go at the MOS for what it said about him attempting to sue the Home office.
Maneki Neko said…
@Blue Dragon

I think Lady C's book is The Untold Life of Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother.
If it’s true and Maggot and Mole’s Netflix deal is hanging by a thread. What will happen if Netflix cuts them loose? 😐

As far as I understand no actual money was to be paid until they had ‘content’ to show etc. Would the deal simply and quietly die a death, or? πŸ₯΄
Magatha Mistie said…

What shite
through yonder window breaks

By hook or by crook
Haz will publish that book
The fee
can’t afford to lose
By the picking of few crumbs
And the clack of madams gums
Flowery diction, puerile fiction
A fury tale ruse…

Sandie said…
The photo of her smiling through the open window of the car is from TTC day. They were snapped en route to the venue where they were going to watch the parade.
Sandie said…
Topic adjacent: For the last Jubilee (golden), there was a video made of Paddington Bear visiting Buckingham Palace, in the pouring rain, and sheltering in one of the guard huts with one of those guards who wear that large bearskin hat. (He ended up sleeping on a bench, and I think the storyline was that he was camping out to see TTC, as many Brits do.) For this Jubilee, he not only got into Windsor Castle, but had tea with the Queen!
Magatha Mistie said…

@Sandie
I thought the car window frame
was taken as they were leaving
their previous glass aim?

Magatha Mistie said…

@Mimi
Cheers 😜
My only defence
Laugh at ‘em!!

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