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Let the Bells Ring Out to Celebrate The Queen

 This is a long awaited day - to celebrate the glorious Seventy years reign of Her Majesty.  

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Mel said, Did anyone notice how flushed Edo's face was? Embarrassed? Or just uncomfortable?

I thought he looked erm reddish, I put it down to the fact he looked very tanned? 🥴
Magatha - Thank you for the addition to the Cliff number - it's brilliant. I can only repeat the start of that number from Expresso Bongo -

`When I hear that little bleeder..'

The big question is `Do the Harkles have Mental Capacity, within the meaning of the UK Act?

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BTW your picture of HM keeps fooling my eyes - it works like the optical illusion of an oblique view of a Victorian-era beauty (think Manet `Bar at the Folies Bergere)/old crone at foot of guillotine)'.

Does anyone else see it like this? Just search optical.illusion old.crone
A picture can say more than a thousand words - from Hello!

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/prince-harry-meghan-markle-leave-004723251.html
snarkyatherbest said…
Raspberry. Netflix is a big company with nearly $30b of annual revenues and another $32b in content assets. if they cut the harkles loose it wouldn’t be a large content write-off and we probably won’t beat about it unless some close to netflix blanks about it (or we see more archwell people leave). so yes they could do it quietly

someone on twitter pulled up previous pics of Misan Harriman with his daughters and since i’m not an instagram person pointed out the dates. i previously thought the daughters looked the same age as in the pic but those previous pics were from a year ago. so people are questioning that too. and she gets cover as he is the one that published the “lily” and “megs” pics. she can claim it wasn’t her that did it.
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar, thanks.
Duke of Gloucester’s face,
and Sarah Chatto.
Said it all,
Service no longer required!

Magatha Mistie said…

@Snarky
Misan Harriman made his
name through BLM.


Sandie said…
https://www.thedailybeast.com/post-jubilee-prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-feud-with-the-royals-is-uglier-than-ever

A very long article so I have not copied and pasted. Hold your nose before reading. Basically:

The duo should have been on the balcony and been front and centre at all big events that weekend.

The royals are so spiteful to not have dropped Jubilee celebrations so that they could attend the birthday party.

The Queen is mean and spiteful for not posing for a photograph with Lili, as she did with Archie (when her and Phillip were ambushed) because the duo have every right to have that valuable photograph to push their brand.

The dastardly couple are victims who have done nothing wrong and are unfairly treated by his mean and spiteful family ...
And so on ...

Articles such as these will bolster them at Mudslide Manor, so watch for them to do something stupid?
snarkyatherbest said…
Magatha and he has a post thanking Ennuil for the Vogue shoot. and has a bunch of pics of clooneys and elton john and his husband on his instagram. yes he’s fine pushing the racism narrative. the irony with that is he has truly visibly biracial daughters. you would think they would be more offended by someone who passed as white most of her life crying about racism


i still find it curious that harry isn’t in any of the pics with the kids of late. these two are clearly not on the same page. wonder what is really going on with that
Sandie said…
My opinion: Why did they not return to the UK for the memorial service for Prince Phillip but did for basically one excruciating public appearance at the Thanksgiving Service? They did it to get attention ... global attention. The Jubilee celebrations are huge ... lots more coverage than the memorial service. Her Netflix show has been cancelled and the podcasting is going nowhere so they need some royal fairy dust. They carefully chose which event to attend ... people do not go to church to socialize, and TTC was behind closed doors, mostly, so they believed they could avoid being the awkward couple no one wants to talk to, in public. The PR drivel about meetings with the Queen was the closest they could get to the photographs they wanted. Now, they are using the visit to play victims who have done nothing wrong again.

Did they offer to do anything to honour the Queen other than turn up to get attention? All the other royals were there to enjoy all the the activities (including street parties) and make sure the Jubilee was a huge success ... all to honour the Queen. Even the York sisters, who are not working royals, went and had fun at a street party. Catherine's family were at the pageant, but other than a couple of photographs before the event started, they did not feature in any coverage. How they must have wanted to be with the Cambridges, but they merged into the background without even trying and enjoyed the show.
Mel said…
Misan Harriman made his
name through BLM.
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That's another thing sneaky if he was the photographer the Q said no to.
MM trying to sneak a bandwagon item in there that she can capitalize on later.

See? Even the Q recognized all the racism at the palace. And tried to atone for it (or send a message)thru using this BLM activist.
OCGal said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid: yes!

In reference to Magatha Mistie’s blog image you wrote “…your picture of HM keeps fooling my eyes - it works like the optical illusion of an oblique view of a Victorian-era beauty (think Manet `Bar at the Folies Bergere)/old crone at foot of guillotine)'.

Does anyone else see it like this?” - end quote -

Yes, I am on an iPad mini so everything is small to begin with, and when I squinch my eyes almost shut my brain no longer sees HM but rather what to me seems to be a cartoon of a black and white toucan bird, facing left. The brightest white of the image turns into a huge cartoonish beak, with one beady black eye smack dab in the middle of the image, while HM’s grey-tone hair and upper collar morph into a fuzzy puffy bird-beret or bird-Afro.

That was fun!
Este said…
@Sandie, regarding that article you shared, thanks for providing the synopsis! Of course this is gonna be their line and it makes them look like Cinderella's step sisters bitter and self-pitying. Problem is they were booed at home and no amount of spin is gonna change that. They've been measured by their people and found to be despicable. The US couldn't give a fig about them, except for the tiny woke crowd that will use anything to further their own ends. So to the Suck-its, "bombs away!" cuz the world just doesn't care about you anymore. Your moment has passed luvvies. That's why we didn't hear crickets about Lillibet's photo "breaking the internet." That's why people cared more about a 4 year old boy than those 2 jokes slinking out of town to try to steal the Queen's thunder. You're yesterday's news, too dumb and desperate, to avoid running into a trap of your own making.
Henrietta said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...

A picture can say more than a thousand words - from Hello!

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/prince-harry-meghan-markle-leave-004723251.html


Harry looks like a ticking time bomb.

SwampWoman said…
Snarkyatherbest said:
i still find it curious that harry isn’t in any of the pics with the kids of late. these two are clearly not on the same page. wonder what is really going on with that


I doubt that they are together for anything other than publicity purposes.
SwampWoman said…
Like most of the things that PP tries to get involved in, BLM has been revealed to be a fraud that the heads used to enrich themselves at the expense of their donors. I can see why she would be eager to jump on the bandwagon.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/see-queen-elizabeth-age-1-210844821.html

I don't know if we thought Baby Susquatch was aping a photo of Harry on all fours but it seems they've done it again - to HM this time.

Henrietta - I agree. perhaps he'll explode when the internal pressure gets too much.
SwampWoman said…
Este said: The US couldn't give a fig about them, except for the tiny woke crowd that will use anything to further their own ends. So to the Suck-its, "bombs away!" cuz the world just doesn't care about you anymore. Your moment has passed luvvies. That's why we didn't hear crickets about Lillibet's photo "breaking the internet." That's why people cared more about a 4 year old boy than those 2 jokes slinking out of town to try to steal the Queen's thunder. You're yesterday's news, too dumb and desperate, to avoid running into a trap of your own making.

Thanks! I try to express how little anybody cares about those two morons but I'm not sure anybody believes it. Most people would not be able to pick either one out of a police lineup.
Sandie said…
If I come across the clip again, I will post a link. It was of the duo seated at the Thanksgiving service. He looks as if he is in turmoil - a mixture of misery and anger. He turns to look at her and she gives him that huge fixed smile thing she does, staring unblinking into his eyes (could not see what the claw was doing). Instant change in him ... he relaxes and turns to look forward again with a big relaxed genuine smile. It is as if she pushed a button on a doll.

I think he is completely dependent on her and would collapse completely without her control. So no, I do not think it has become a marriage of keeping up with appearances and I do not think he will ever leave. But, I suppose everyone has a breaking/tipping point so the couple may still surprise me.
Sandie said…
I do also wonder why the father and son were not in the birthday pics. I think this was her doing perhaps ... wanting the image of mother and the golden child. But who knows ... perhaps he was in too much of a mood as it hit home how cut off and isolated he is? Maybe Archie was on a sugar high and tearing up the place?
Hikari said…
WBBM & Henrietta--



A picture can say more than a thousand words - from Hello!

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/prince-harry-meghan-markle-leave-004723251.html

Harry looks like a ticking time bomb.


Sarah Chatto's face is totally a mood. But everyone in their vicinity either refuses to look at them or is giving them the glare of death.

The question is, who is this ticking time bomb going to go off on? Himself or others? I have no use for Harry but I am pretty concerned that he might self-harm. Hard to see how there will be any coming back from this. The Battle of the Books hasn't even begun.

I'm also afraid that the cold reception the couple got is going to be weaponized by them as "See? We told you they were racists! Not just my family but every single British person who booed us. All racists!" I wish we could've gotten footage of the Suck-its being booed by a huge crowd of non-white folks. That would have pierced their bubble just a tad.

Neither of the Harkles appear capable of an adult assessment of this situation as in any way their fault. It's absolutely extraordinary how childish and incapable of either learning or personal growth these two are. They both act like spoilt pre-teens, only they are both middle-aged. Harry certainly never absorbed any of the lessons about the (toxic) stiff upper lip. Pouting and fuming are his default settings.


Snarky & Swampie,

I still find it curious that harry isn’t in any of the pics with the kids of late. these two are clearly not on the same page. wonder what is really going on with that?

I doubt that they are together for anything other than publicity purposes.


I think this faux-mance/showmance has been for publicity purposes since Day 1. I think any intimate contact between them ceased by the time the engagement happened, but Harry was pretty obviously roped into this marriage under duress of some kind. I'd go further and say that I am unsure whether they have *ever* actually lived together in the usual way as a couple from the time * arrived in the UK. There have been a number of sources saying that while H was spotted entering/leaving KP solo, * was never seen around there. There are reports of her living in a flat in Kensington or alternatively at the Soho Farmhouse, conveniently situated some 1/4th mile away from the disputed Cotswolds property they sued the papp agency over.

If they are forced now by circumstances (ie, Harry being an immigrant with no discernible job skills) into sharing a domicile, I would bet a gazillion dollars that they do not share a bedroom.

The bed of nails that Hazza does currently lie on must hurt like a SOAB.
Museumstop said…
My feelings so far:

The wife came hoping to film a fight for the first episode of the soap opera (as she sees, directs and defines it, because that's how she saw the RF - as a viewer of personal tales and gossip through the many TV and film productions, through mags and their photo spreads) in which she is is a central character.

This was season four. First being before the wedding, second until escape to Canada, third post declaration of manifesto.

Had life pre-Jubilee not been such a flop, her idea was would have been to swan in and be heralded as the game changer, the one who proved that she can reign over Hollywood, England and by extension of her philanthropy the world.

But too much went wrong, and Uvalde was a disaster (no learning from fake Remembrance day shoot). So onto track two.

The warm, happy family that is just trying to do its best living life in California, but always held back by the RF which is fuelled by jealously of their popularity and beauty.

Despite the past hurt and disrespect, the family came back to join in a momentous occasion but was ill-treated. Sent to second row. Birthday party avoided (they both knew the Jubilee schedule, this Frogmore party was strategic to script in conflict. There was definitely trouble before the Thanksgiving service). Disallowed photos. No conversation.

The duo knew there would be issues but also expected RF to be bound by polite and accommodating behaviour publicly. So they tried to manufacture chaos - some might have been organic due to their bruised egos.

They needed it for Netflix, for their brand, for their appeal.

I think we are seeing that narrative out there. The wife knows that most consume of the RF just as she did. This is why she doesn't care about discrepancies, actual footage, the facts when she can sell edited shots, curated narratives and photo stories, all powered by her social media mercenaries.

I also think, she records not just for Netflix or to blackmail or collect evidence, but to create documentary legacy of herself. So that one day somebody may put together features of herself as she has seen of Diana and other RF. This is why she has professionals videotaping or photographing nearly everything.

Their behaviour in church somehow felt to me as if they were acting out for a future voiceover - H looking up at the ceilings mournfully will be him remembering his mother, sadness of losing family:P. If they were mic'ed, then their conversations with each other would not be authentic either.

I am curious about how Eugenie fits in with the family lunches etc if she truly is a Harkle rep.
Rebecca said…
I suppose Katie Nicholl is stating the obvious here, but I think it’s true:

'I honestly think it’s [because]… they knew that they wouldn’t be in that front row.

'And why did they leave the Royal Family? They left because they weren’t in the front row. I believe that’s why they weren't at the other celebrations as they did not have centre stage seats.'

@Henrietta: I hadn’t seen that photo of H before—he seems to be staring daggers at his father, Camilla, William and Kate.
Rebecca said…
There is a kerfuffle over Eugenie having cropped Kate and Louis out of a balcony shot she posted to her Instagram account. People are saying it was deliberate because she doesn’t like Kate. It is a rather odd omission:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1623590/Kate-Middleton-news-Princess-Eugenie-instagram-royal-family-updates-jubilee-picture-crop
CatEyes said…
@sanarkyatherbest said
"....and she gets cover as he is the one that published the “lily” and “megs” pics. she can claim it wasn’t her that did it."

That is a good theory and the absence of believable factual details of the actual birthday party images, no 'H' and artificial Archie included just reinforces that someone else may have contrived Lilibuck$ photos. I think the 6's were so mad, they couldn't stop ranting and raving about their '2nd Row Uncelebrity Status' therefore they could not muster a smile for their own child's birthday party if they even had one ((which I'm doubting also).

I wonder if it was deliberate as someone suggested, that the selction of the "personal photographer" had such interesting credentials with links to the BLM. I could see that this would add to * obssession with crying the 'R' word. I truly hope they are not setting the Queen up for a mean-spirited and unwarranted claim of discrimination.

If Mr. Deep Sixth's book publishment is delayed, he will have ample to revise, stgmitize and describe such alleged awful tales of woe/libel that publishing companies may be fearful (and certainly an estyeemed the ghost writer who is careful about being sued in the past) about the new material. I hate to suggest this but they may be waiting until the Queen passses (and after the Will is read)so they can truly put the ugliest spin on the events. Afterall the Queen (once she has passed) would not be able to sue them.

God Save the Queen!

The only thing I can hope for, is that the Deep 6's are at each other's throat with recriminations for their unfullfilled vicious plots against the BRF over the last couple of years. It couldn't happen to a more deserving couple!
Maneki Neko said…
A bit pretentious for a one year old who won't t know any different and won't be able to eat it anyway.

The very posh £244 birthday cake Harry and Meghan bought for one-year-old baby Lilibet - complete with two tier Amalfi lemon and elderflower fillings and strawberry buttercream covering

https://tinyurl.com/5n82dbjc
SwampWoman said…
I've accidentally cropped people out of pictures so I'm not going to assume it was deliberate (grin).
snarkyatherbest said…
Rebecca. she dropped out Camila too. maybe she did it to get traffic to her site trying to get more eyes for more money. it was interesting back a few months ago we had reports of catherine and kids and Bea and sienna visiting the queen together but not Eugenie. perhaps she has made her bed and it’s not one of an authorized conduit to deal with the Harry. maybe as her fathers daughter she is upset with the powers that be that are keeping him out of the limelight. she seemed for a while to be a favorite of the queen (several of the Maury Thursday) but maybe charles is clear to them to seek their own fortunes and not as working royals (hence the part time move to portugal). perhaps she sees the cambridges as part of that
Sandie said…
https://twitter.com/hellomag/status/1535351091335864320?s=20&t=RCFO1aLh-8i3MED0dcu_UA

Put out by Hello magazine. Note:

All of this money was raised by the SussexSquad. No mention of that, but there is a grandiose mention that donations came from round the world.

The money raised by the SussexSquad was for Archie and Lili's birthdays. But the claim is that it was for Lili's birthday only.

PR overdrive from the duchess of Mudslide Manor.

Where is Archie?
Sandie said…
Eugenie and her family were at the gathering of grandchildren and great-children at Windsor Castle. But it is odd that Eugenie and August could not make it to the gathering at Frogmore House. Catherine and Beatrice do not live on the Windsor Estate; Eugenie does.
Sandie said…
The photo of the royals on the balcony was a landscape format. Social media has a portrait format. So, the photo could have been automatically cropped to fit the platform. In my opinion, she should have checked before posting and realized that 'the optics' would be bad. A photo of just the Queen on the balcony might have been a better choice.
Sandie said…
https://twitter.com/sussexdaily/status/1533099011493793794?s=20&t=K7BOaqQEBoSpn8nQ1Hx92w

Proof that the money was raised by the SussexSquad and was in honour of both children.
Sandie said…
https://www.hellomagazine.com/homes/20220610142555/prince-harry-meghan-markle-swimming-pool-photo/

"The Sussexes have recently renewed the lease on their UK home, indicating that they could be spending more time visiting the Queen in the near future.

The regal property is a short drive away from the Queen's home Windsor Castle, making the location extremely convenient for family meets."

The PR invoking the name of the Queen is starting to feel like stalking. Just saying ...!
Enbrethiliel said…
@Mel
don't think they did plan to come to the Jubilee until she had that failed outing in Uvalde, Texas. She had to do something to take care of the extremely bad PR from that. Jubilee it is.

This would be a disgusting thing for her to do -- and unfortunately, it's right in her wheelhouse.

She would never have attended for the Queen, for her husband (so he could patch things up with his family) or for her supposed children. She went only because there was something in it for her. Or rather because she thought she could demand it and get it.

And then she had the audacity to throw a tantrum and leave early because she didn't receive what she wanted, even if she had never been promised it or entitled to it.

That reporter in Morocco called it. "Ugh, she's repugnant."
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

Thanks for the link to the Hello tweet. So Misan Harriman's photo was 'candid and spontaneous', was it? Was this sugary, sycophantic drivel written by Scooby Doo?
It's nice to know that there were donations to the World's Central Kitchen in honour of Lilibuck$. Never pass up a chance to show the world what a humanitarian you are. How much did they/Archewell cream off?
lizzie said…
@Sandie wrote:

"...it is odd that Eugenie and August could not make it to the gathering at Frogmore House. Catherine and Beatrice do not live on the Windsor Estate; Eugenie does./"

I don't think we know where Eugenie lives these days. (And to be honest, we don't really know if the Cambridges have already moved to Windsor. But that's for another conversation!)

It makes no sense to me Eugenie and Jack and their baby live at Froggy Cott and supposedly pay rent but moved out for H&M's visit during the Jubilee. But it also doesn't make sense to me that 2 couples and 3 small children plus nannies and a stray security guard or two were all ensconced at FC for Jubilee week. In fact, I don't know that I am fully convinced E&J ever lived at FC. But it might have made sense for them to live there while Eugenie was on maternity leave so she'd be close to her parents when Jack was traveling. But I'm not sure they still live there (even before the reported Portugal move) And if I were Eugenie, I'd have rented a hotel room in London anyway for the Jubilee if I didn't now live at Ivy Cottage as has been reported re: the Portugal story. I would never have planned to commute back and forth to Windsor with a baby.

I'm not as convinced as some seem to be that Eugenie is besties with the Sussexes. Maybe she is. But I have relatives that when there's any sort of family disagreement (& our disagreements are relatively mild!) try to be nonjudgmental and try to remain on good terms with everyone. Usually it doesn't work but they try. I do sort of wonder if that's the way Eugenie deals with stuff.
Brown-eyed said…
Rebecca

Eugenie’s photo hasn’t been cropped. Instagram will hide part of the photo if it is too “big.” I think it was discussed earlier on this thread. If not, it was on Lipstick Alley and included the full photo and how it shows a smaller portion of the photo in order to fit the space.
DesignDoctor said…
Interesting comment on St Meghan Markle Reddit

And in a decade or so, Louis will be the fun royal and people will be interested in the Cambridge children as they become young adults. Harry will be the uncle from America who shows up occasionally and makes things awkward.

Catherine will be a glamorous and accomplished Princess of Wales – possibly even Queen Consort – and Harry and Meghan will have faded into middle-aged obscurity.

As a couple, they peaked in 2017/18. Now they're just desperately clinging on to whatever minor, and rapidly diminishing, relevance they might still have. All because they thought they were too good for TRF.
Karla said…
Large photos on Instagram are edited by the user before posting. Who edits is the user is not automatic on Instagram
https://www.tailwindapp.com/blog/how-to-edit-instagram-post


...
"Can You Edit A Picture On Instagram After Posting It?
You may be searching the web, desperately trying to find out how to edit Instagram photos after posting.

Here’s the bad news – you can’t. Unfortunately, you have one shot to add the right filter, crop or adjust your photo before it goes live. 😔 Instagram doesn’t currently support any features to edit your Instagram photos after you post"
Thank you Snarky for the Netflix info. I pretty much think the deal will end quietly.

If Mole’s book doesn’t get published ( and/or doesn’t sell) and the Netflix deal falls flat…money will surely be tight! 😳
Sandie said…
@Karla
I am not sure I understand your post, but do you mean that it is the user who manually crops a landscape photo to fit a portrait format? What happens if you don't crop? Does the program simply shrink the size to fit or dies it automatically crop? There are only two ways to fit a landscape photo in a portrait format: crop or shrink. The latter choice leaves a huge space in the frame, so you have to crop.

I don't know how tech savvy Eugenie is, but perhaps she did crop it intentionally and thought that as long as the Queen, Charles, William and George were in the photo then it conveyed the message it was supposed to.
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Just some thoughts on the publishing deal: The rumour was that it was a 5-book deal (The Bench, a wellness book from her, a memoir from him in two parts, a 'how to be philanthropists like us' kind of book from them both). She doesn't follow through so perhaps the publishers realize that they are not going to get any kind of full-length manuscript worth publishing from her. Is she thus trying to insert her wellness and philanthropist books into his memoir?

I spent decades working in book publishing. Inhouse editors (who are never credited for their contribution) often act as ghostwriters, not only fixing spelling and grammar and checking copyright and libel issues, but also changing style for consistency or suitability for the market, filling in gaps, and even changing structure. I know how quickly and efficiently editors work, so the problems with this book are way beyond the normal. Most manuscripts require some kind of intervention, sometimes major, but publishers know how to do this, and quickly.

He either has not submitted a manuscript to the publisher (deadline after deadline missed), or the manuscript is so bad that if my boss gave it to me and told me to make it publishable, I would collapse in a heap and weep.
Sandie said…
One of the first things I was taught in book publishing was never pay an advance when signing a deal, no matter how experienced or successful an author is. You can pay advances on royalties when the manuscript is delivered, if it is publishable and good enough to sell the projected number of copies, but this sum then gets subtracted from royalties. A publisher who strays from this model will end up in financial trouble.

Same with Spotify and Netflix.

How come three huge companies let themselves be conned by a couple of verbose and grandiose grifters? Are any of these cases going to end up in court? What happens when the grifters run out of people to con? Can the SussexSquad sustain them with their fundraising?
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/childhood-now-last-until-40-050000930.html

An article from the Telegraph - does this mean H isn't that unusual now? Heaven help us!


Karla said…
Sandy, my written English is really bad. But I will try to explain and I advance that anyone who has a verified profile on IG like Eugenie has, knows the techniques of IG.

On Instagram, when are you going to post a photo. First, the Instagram user has the option to edit photo. That is, you choose the framing of the photo, as you want it to appear, with the measurements of the Instagram format. After editing or cropping the photo as you wish. You choose filters or not on the photo. These two options are requested by Instagram before posting. Once that's done, you can publish the photo.

...
How do I crop a photo on Instagram?
After uploading or taking a new photo , you can crop it. To crop a photo:
1
Tap Edit . Then tap Adjust .
2
Tap the screen and pinch to zoom in. Then move the photo and adjust the way it fits within the frame. Use the grid to help frame the photo.
3
Tap Cancel to cancel or tap Done to save changes.
You can also add effects to your photo.

https://help.instagram.com/117838865078314
Fifi LaRue said…
Hikari has powerful deductive thinking. In that case we can assume the b*tch wife is a Beard. She's bearding for Twit.
Twit could have stayed single, played the Eligible Bachelor for decades, dating the beauties of Europe, while privately engaging in what he really prefers. No one would have questioned that. Instead of beaming with love and joy at his wedding he looked like he was being led to the gallows. One of the Most Eligible Royal Bachelors of Europe, and he marries some sloppy, talentless, mean, middle-aged petty troll with a very dubious background and multiple marriages?
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/childhood-now-last-until-40-050000930.html

An article from the Telegraph - does this mean H isn't that unusual now? Heaven help us!


Parents supporting children long past the age when they should have fledged and flew from the nest depends upon an affluent society of plenty. Throughout history, very few people were privileged enough that they were not required to toil in order to meet their basic subsistence needs. Even in royalty, the first-born males mostly got it all otherwise the power and money would be quickly dissipated. Everybody else had to make their own way.

I'm not sure that an extended adolescence free from all worry about the future is a good thing. Learned helplessness is hard to overcome when circumstances change.

PP and 6 never did learn how to be self supporting. Circumstances have changed. I do not think that they can navigate the changed landscape.

Sandie said…
@Karla
Thanks for sharing your technical knowledge. I have never used IG so, although I understand the technicalities of cropping, shrinking, enlarging, formatting and so on, I do not know the specifics of how the platform works.

Apologies to everyone else if we have bored you witless by a technical conversation that I find fascinating! The scrolling function can be very useful!

My conclusion: she did crop the photo (landscape had to be made into portrait format) and did not consider that there may be blowback about who she cropped out, or she did it deliberately.

I am still on the fence about Eugenie. She does not seem to be on warm terms with the Cambridges. Since her marriage, Beatrice seems to have become closer to her senior royal cousins.
Hikari said…
Hikari has powerful deductive thinking. In that case we can assume the b*tch wife is a Beard. She's bearding for Twit.

Shucks, thanks. It's only a theory, not provable fact, unless H decides to break ranks and spill, but if the Harkles are in fact in a loveless 'contract marriage' of the kind exceedingly popular in Hollywood, that would explain an awful lot of the strenuously quizzical behavior exhibited by this pair who are 'soooo in lurve'! Her constant pawing of him and hand-grabbing are meant to project love and devotion (though it's incredibly juvenile) . . but they are really her means of control over him.

We've speculated before many times about the nature of their connection and how she conned her way into the Royal family. Harry broke it off with her when she was forcibly ejected from KP for attempting to take sneak photos of the Cambridge children and probably their home as well. After that incident, I think H was pressured to break it off with her . . and he did so. This was around Nov/December 2016 . . 5 or 6 months after they met. Sounds about right for the duration of H's usual 'relationships'. He must have thought he'd dodged that bullet until she showed up like the spectre at the feast at the Inskip wedding some 4 months later. He arrived alone because they had broken up. I guess she was never officially un-invited as his plus-one, but any 'normal' person would have realized that once the relationship was over, the invitation to social events as his date was void.

Spackle is *not* normal, as we know and she never takes no for an answer either. The next time they were seen publicly was when she crashed Invictus and he looked like he'd soiled himself in the stands when he caught sight of her. Then there was that ominous gathering in the skybox including *'s p*mp and her mama. Harry looked like a deer in headlights . . then the very next day, they are hand in hand as he introduces ratty-a$$ uncombed hair Megdusa as his girlfriend to the world.

Yeah, sure, that was all completely of his own free will.

(Not.)

I still don't understand why he couldn't have refused to be involved with her any further but whatever dirt the Soho House cohort have on him must be really bad. . for him and for the Family by extension. If H prefers the intimate company of men . . is that so shocking in this day and age? The Duke of Edinburgh was still alive and perhaps Haz could not face that admission to his alpha granddad or his grandmother. He ought to have risked coming clean about his proclivities to them and we could have avoided all of this. Surely any backlash he'd have received would have been temporary and far preferable to the living hell he's trapped in now that has no end in sight to it.



Twit could have stayed single, played the Eligible Bachelor for decades, dating the beauties of Europe, while privately engaging in what he really prefers. No one would have questioned that. Instead of beaming with love and joy at his wedding he looked like he was being led to the gallows. One of the Most Eligible Royal Bachelors of Europe, and he marries some sloppy, talentless, mean, middle-aged petty troll with a very dubious background and multiple marriages?
Hikari said…
The second half of Fifi's comment

Twit could have stayed single, played the Eligible Bachelor for decades, dating the beauties of Europe, while privately engaging in what he really prefers. No one would have questioned that. Instead of beaming with love and joy at his wedding he looked like he was being led to the gallows. One of the Most Eligible Royal Bachelors of Europe, and he marries some sloppy, talentless, mean, middle-aged petty troll with a very dubious background and multiple marriages?

Back when H was in the service and dating Chelsy (on and off for some 11 years all told) and then took up with Cressida, an aristocratic beauty who really could have her pick of men, it never occurred to me that H might not bat for the heteros. Lavender marriages amongst the aristocracy have been a fairly widespread thing for centuries--long before Hollywood was invented and came out with its own version, the 'studio romance'. If H is gay or bisexual, that is probably well-known in his circles already, if tacitly. I do not find his overly handsy behavior with various ruggedly handsome Invictus veterans to be just the regular 'towel snapping' kind of locker room jocularity sort. Not when kissing and nipple tweaking and knee groping is involved.

Hikari said…
H could have blazed the way as the first openly gay Royal at least in modern memory. With William's heirs secure, I think his family would have accommodated that revelation quite well. Charles and Camilla are pretty woke for senior citizens actually. Charles has always desired to be seen as progressive in his thinking. There has been speculation before about Andrew and Edward too, though nothing 'official'. H's being gay would be probably the most wholesome of the potential scenarios, really, for why he wound up with, as Fifi so eloquently put it, the 'sloppy, talentless, mean middle-aged petty troll of dubious background and at least one divorce on her sheet. *'s father denied there was a collegiate marriage but I don't rule out some paperwork fiddling . . maybe a Britney Spears-style Vegas union that lasted for a few days or weeks and was swiftly quashed with an annulment due to the very real concerns of the groom's family. Even considering the shameful way Thomas Markle has been discarded by his youngest daughter, it's still in his best interest that she not be revealed as the completely soulless gr*fting wh*re with zero moral code that she is, at least, not so early, because that doesn't shine the best light on his parenting.

Apparently H's personal behavior has always been so egregious that no more suitable aristocratic girl could be found who was willing to marry him, even for the perks that go along with being in the Royal family, if it was common knowledge among H' set that he was shiftless, angry, cheap, bitter, lazy, stupid, prone to outbursts of violence, had a drink and drugs problem and potentially preferred boys into the bargain. Harry of England was no prize. So maybe the RF was momentarily relieved that an American had blown in to take him off their hands. On paper, she looked promising: university educated, experience with diplomatic service, if only as an intern, 'humanitarian', already media-trained, and near H's own age. Ha. They had no clue what they were in for.

H found his own level with the partner he wound up with. She really eggs on and brings out his lowest self. All the attempts by his family to elevate his character to noblesse oblige standards or at least channel his pouty entitled self into some semblance of meaningful channels has been in vain. Unlike Wallis Simpson did with the Duke she wrested away from the RF, Maggot is not going to stick by her Prince's side for decades. I think we are at the beginning of the end for this couple. I predicted 5 years tops. With all their big money deals tanking and it having been made absolutely clear that they are frozen out of the RF, *'s gonna leave as soon as she drains the rest of Mole's money. That shouldn't take terribly long the way they are going. I certainly hope that Charles isn't giving Twit any more money. H has got to really learn what it means to be on his own, since he wanted it so bad. If that means a Prince of the United Kingdom winds up on Skid Row . . so be it. Sorry, but he's got it coming.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Fifi LaRue
One of the Most Eligible Royal Bachelors of Europe, and he marries some sloppy, talentless, mean, middle-aged petty troll with a very dubious background and multiple marriages?

I'm agnostic (and frankly indifferent) on the issue of what Harry actually likes in the bedroom, but what jumps out at me is that, if this is indeed the case, he couldn't find a better beard. There would have been many women willing to marry into the BRF, in exchange for looking elegant at a handful of private functions and being absolutely discreet about their private lives. (Respect for the Crown would go without saying.) His wife wouldn't even have had to be a working royal. Isn't there a cliche about royal/aristo wives dutifully birthing a few legitimate children before indulging in affairs? For someone with the right temperament and expectations, it would be a win-win situation. A good matchmaker could have set him up with many eligible women.

But Harry literally couldn't find anyone better than * for whom that would be a good deal. I guess repugnant attracts repugnant.
Fifi LaRue said…
The Mountbatten who was blown up in his yacht by the IRA was married, but had sex parties with young men/boys, so the Royal Family is not unfamiliar with alternate preferences.

No, IMO, the thing with Twit's personal sexual preferences is something far, far past most of our imaginings. His drug/alcohol use would have made him vulnerable to being used by the wrong people. And his lack of intelligence about peoples' motivations, and not understanding that his royal standing didn't do him any favors. In fact, the opposite; it made him a target. In addition, he would have been out of reach for his personal manservant to steer him away from such activities.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Hikari
I still don't understand why he couldn't have refused to be involved with her any further but whatever dirt the Soho House cohort have on him must be really bad

I like Shallon Lester's theory that * appealed to Harry's "shadow self." She told him what no other woman ever did, which was essentially: "You are the real king. Your older brother was born first, but you're the one with 'the right stuff.' Everyone has been holding you back because of the stupid line of succession, but I see the real you. Join forces with me and we'll make everyone else see it, too."

(Well, okay, one other woman did tell him he would make a better king. But Diana only meant to be "fair" to her second son. I don't think she would have wanted him to have any gains at her first son's expense.)

I may be wrong, but I just don't see Harry sticking with * if her only hold on him was "dirt." The family would have paid her off long before this. They seemed willing to tolerate someone they thought he really wanted (whether it was true love or not); I don't think they would have put on that dog and pony show of a wedding, if they knew he was just being blackmailed by a C-list actress.

For me, Harry's bad mood at the wedding was a combination of resentment toward Prince William and annoyance at the problems * was already creating. Part of him knew going through with it was a bad idea, but he was in too deep by then. We know now that calling of the wedding at the last minute would have been the lesser evil. (Maybe Harry knows it, too.) But would the world of 2018, without the experience of the last four years, have ever let Harry -- and indeed, the entire BRF -- live down a 33 million pound extravaganza that he canceled at the last minute?

And if Harry were indeed gay, I think Prince Philip would have been tipped off a long time ago by courtiers or RPOs. I doubt the BRF can keep any secrets from each other, even when they manage to hide them from the rest of us.
CatEyes said…
With the recent discussion here about 'H's" possible procliviitesI just read a very long and indeed quite salacious account of Edward and Wallis relationship. It was so shocking in terms of her dominance/his submission, flagrant affrairs and strange 'S' practices, that it made me think it is not out of the realm of possibility H has inherited trais from the bizarre behavior from his great-uncle?

Article in the Daily Mail today. Keep your seat because its a wild story!
How Edward gave up the throne for a woman who didn't love him, cheated on him and grew to despise him: ANDREW LOWNIE casts a dramatic new light on the Wallis Simpson story... including exile, secret agents and her lover accused of castrating a partner.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10905345/ANDREW-LOWRIE-Edward-gave-throne-woman-didnt-love-cheated-him.html

PS. I woukld have posted this article but it is so lurid and not specfically about the duo I thought I better not, since its OT.
Hikari said…
@Sandie,

I am still on the fence about Eugenie. She does not seem to be on warm terms with the Cambridges. Since her marriage, Beatrice seems to have become closer to her senior royal cousins.

I am in agreement with you. Formerly, of the two York princesses, I felt more warmly towards E., who I saw as laboring in the shadow of her more glamorous elder sister when they were younger. In more recent years, it was E. who emerged with the higher profile of the two. She got the splashy televised wedding and seemed to be more in the news in terms of her charitable causes than Bea. Turns out Beatrice has also been working, more quietly behind the scenes, with a charity in support of dyslexia, which she herself suffers from. She also trained for the London Marathon in the past, in which she ran for charity, but it seemed for a long while that she was still kind of drifting around trying to find her way while her younger sister pulled ahead as the more outwardly confident and outspoken one.

It distressed me to hear of * causing a rift between the sisters, given E.'s connection to the Soho House crowd. If in fact she knew * as part of that circle first and was the 'anonymous' female person who introduced Harry to * . . then on some level, do we have E. to blame for the fine mess that H has gotten himself into? I'm sure Madam Cockroach would have finagled a meeting with or without E.'s involvement, but E. has had more public contact with the odious pair since than anyone else in the RF.

Recent charming footage taken at a Jubilee street party shows the York sisters partaking in games and mingling with the common folk. Without missing a beat, Beatrice introduces herself to an elderly lady who's got no clue who she is, offering, "I'm Beatrice . . the Queen's my granny." The sisters seemed to be getting along well as of old. I've got no idea whether one stiff meeting at a formal service is indicative of coldness toward the Cambridges or not. I'd need more info before relegating E. the "Bitter #2" cohort so prevalent in that family. I sure didn't care for E.'s loud Halloween color palette in her Jubilee outfit; Beatrice looked far more Royal that day. Maybe orange and black don't connote Halloween in the UK but I didn't think it was the most suitable look for the occasion. It was so out of step with the spring palette the other ladies were wearing, it felt a bit like an FU/attention-seeking ploy in the manner of *.

Everything is so opaque. Hard to know what is actually going on in that family and I doubt we ever will.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

Thank you for explaining how literary editors work. It was informative. I think we can safely assume H's manuscript is written by a ghostwriter. Is the ghostwriter so awful? Or perhaps H hasn't given him/her enough material to go on. Mind you, * manage to produce that literary masterpiece, The Bench, so there's hope...

@Wild Boar

I haven't read the papers yet but will look for the article in the Telegraph. I did read something very similar a while ago. Yes, H could be childlike, as described by Dr Hassett, especially considering he seems to obey mummy *.
Sandie said…
Sorry, I just copied the whole post with minimal cleaning up!

Interesting information. They are going to live in Windsor Castle?
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Roya Nikkhah
@RoyaNikkhah
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Jun 11, 2022
EXCLUSIVE - PRINCE WILLIAM AT 40. My big read on the Duke of Cambridge's future as he approaches a milestone. The move to Berkshire, his drive to do more than "plaques and patronages," where he's at with Harry and much more. It’s all here @thesundaytimes
thetimes.co.uk

Prince William to move family to the shires after his 40th birthday
Roya Nikkhah
@RoyaNikkhah
I can reveal the Cambridges will move to Windsor for "the school years" with plans to live in "the big house" Windsor Castle and later relocating to Anmer Hall. They have appointed Lee Thompson from @NBCUniversal as their new press secretary and are contemplating joining TikTok
Sandie said…
This is what the article actually says:


The Cambridges will move to a house on the Queen’s Windsor estate this summer. In time, it is understood they will move into “the big house” as the Prince of Wales does not plan to spend as much time as the Queen at Windsor Castle when he is king."
Hikari said…
I like Shallon Lester's theory that * appealed to Harry's "shadow self." She told him what no other woman ever did, which was essentially: "You are the real king. Your older brother was born first, but you're the one with 'the right stuff.' Everyone has been holding you back because of the stupid line of succession, but I see the real you. Join forces with me and we'll make everyone else see it, too."

I agree that there is certainly an element of this. This couple reinforces and justifies each others' grievances and sense of victimhood. In the early days of dating, when * was all batted eyelashes and simpering Stepford smiles in H's direction, I think H was made to feel like a big man. It was a big ego-stroke. But even supposing that sex is what initially brought our slimy couple together, I think their tastes are decidedly not the norm and very likely involved a lot of 'others'. Others with stories to tell.

I may be wrong, but I just don't see Harry sticking with * if her only hold on him was "dirt." The family would have paid her off long before this. They seemed willing to tolerate someone they thought he really wanted (whether it was true love or not); I don't think they would have put on that dog and pony show of a wedding, if they knew he was just being blackmailed by a C-list actress.

The Shadow Self theory plus *'s access to all realms of exciting/deviant/contraband temptations might have been the initial 'hook', and he was happy to go along on that hook for half a year or so. Then * met the Family and it all went sideways. Whether or not H was pressured to break off the relationship or decided himself to do so, it seems that he had no contact with her for at least 9 months in 2017, apart from the visibly uncomfortable encounters at Skippy's wedding and Toronto Invictus, where there were no indications from H that he was thrilled to see her. They were done. Then suddenly, 6-8 weeks after Invictus, she's upped sticks to London and they are engaged. That happened very swiftly after he hadn't dated or hardly seen her for nearly a year. In the interim she stalked him 'round the polo circuit and at various events, removed at least once by William because she was not authorized to be rooting around in the boot of H's car. So, if he'd in fact found the soul mate that was going to bolster his ego and his self-narrative as 'the true King/Rock Star Royal' of the Windsors . . why did he dump her for 9 months only to pick her up again and resume their folie a deux? Seems like there had to be a pretty huge incentive for H to start paying her court again after all that time. She was *not* expected at Invictus by the looks on the mugs of both H and JT. If they were still an item at that time, seems like she would have been on the VIP list for an event happening in her city.

What went down at the Inskip wedding? Again, not the happy reunion of two long distance lovers. H was in a full-blown panic attack. The kind of panic that is induced by some perceived large threat, not just irritation at having to make nice with an old girlfriend who was gauche enough to show up for free drinks at a mate's wedding because she'd been invited months previously even though circumstances had changed.

Hikari said…
The story keeps making the rounds that * was in fact offered an eye-watering sum by the RF to Eff Orf out of H's life. 100,000 pounds, I believe I read. Now that is a figure that would allow anyone to go off and have a very nice fresh start if she happened to be between TV jobs and boyfriends. But that's obviously chump change to *, seeing as she racked up a million-pound clothing bill in about 9 months as a Royal. That amount might only keep Smirkle for a month, but for ordinary people, 100K pounds is an extortionate sum that makes one ponder *what* exactly merits that kind of a send off from the family of a man who doesn't want to see one any more? The eventual wedding was such a slapdash affair in part because * kept the RF waiting until the 11th hour in the misguided understanding that their offer was going to be accepted.

Was it 100K to 'Please don't go off in a snit and accuse us of being racists!' or 100K because * had come up with a sob story about being pregnant? Or 100K to purchase her silence over indiscretions of H's that may have involved something worse than drugs or videotaped encounters with men. Maybe underage partners? Perhaps a sex game with fatal consequences or some other form of misadventure at which H was present? My mind casts around for The Worst and what I come up with is the death of a young person inflagrante delicto. Maybe even a snuff film. These Soho House denizens are all shadowy sinister figures. Look at Markus Anderson--dude even looks like Lucifer, or at least Lucifer's minion. Hard not to think that H, slow on the uptake knobhead with zero self-awareness that he is got in over his head with these people. Anyway, the fairy dust seems to have rubbed off fairly quickly. That engagement interview was an unmitigated disaster. Foretaste of things to come.

For me, Harry's bad mood at the wedding was a combination of resentment toward Prince William and annoyance at the problems * was already creating. Part of him knew going through with it was a bad idea, but he was in too deep by then. We know now that calling of the wedding at the last minute would have been the lesser evil. (Maybe Harry knows it, too.) But would the world of 2018, without the experience of the last four years, have ever let Harry -- and indeed, the entire BRF -- live down a 33 million pound extravaganza that he canceled at the last minute?

Whatever words were exchanged in private between the brothers over *, William impeccably played the part of the Best Man on the day. Would being angry at William account for the "I think I'm going to vomit" look of impending dread on H's visage as he watched his Corpse Bride approaching the altar on the arm of his father? The Fly had her number while the majority of us were still mistakenly believing that she was a decent human being.

The Prince of Wales commented that his younger son was completely **** struck, and what could be done? Young men in love, blahblahblah. Charles knows a fair bit about being in this condition, but his case was genuine, and look--he's still with his Squidgy. Chas and Cam are the real thing. Maybe once upon a time Charles fantasized about emulating his Great Uncle Edward and giving up his throne for the woman he loved . . but Charles has always been a Romantic. He attempted to explain H's predicament using his own experiences, but it's not the same. Would that it were that simple, really. No man who is besotted with his wife looks at her like he is alternately frightened of her or wants to throttle her. If H were truly besotted, maybe we could make some allowances or at least dredge up some pity. I tried, earlier on to do so, but now I think the toxic couple are equally disgusting and deserve each other for eternity.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Hikari
I'd need more info before relegating E. the "Bitter #2" cohort so prevalent in that family.

The latest tea from Royalblr (absolutely unverified, of course) is that Prince Andrew and Sarah consider Wolfie Mapelli Mozzi their first grandchild and Princess Eugenie is not happy about it.

If true, I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, I think it's lovely that Wolfie has been accepted so wholeheartedly. On the other hand, I can see why Eugenie, who bore a child "of the body," would feel that something was taken away from her own son.

(Wouldn't it be ironic if Eugenie were miffed over this while championing a woman who at best needed surrogates to have children?)
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

We've heard reports that the Cambridges are moving to Windsor in the summer but I can't find anything about Windsor Castle specifically. Adelaide Cottage was mooted last month but nothing's been confirmed.
snarkyatherbest said…
hmmm didn’t a certain couple want to move into windsor castle. this has got to burn even if it doesn’t come true. and we need a pap pic of Catherine at the long walk in Windsor just showing that if someone was ever at frogmore we would see a pic
Rebecca said…
The Times is reporting that Andrew will be participating fully in the Garter Day festivities. Unbelievable. That must give the Harkles cause for hope.
Karla said…
" I can reveal the Cambridges will move to Windsor for "the school years" with plans to live in "the big house" Windsor Castle and later relocating to Anmer Hall. They have appointed Lee Thompson from
@NBCUniversal
as their new press secretary and are contemplating joining TikTok". -. RoyaNikkhah
Royal Editor
@TheSundayTimes
. Presenter. Contributor for the BBC, ITV, Sky News, Channel 5, CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, CBC

https://mobile.twitter.com/royanikkhah/status/1535674527413411840
...
Sandy - Such a fun *THROWBACK* ( 2019)

"Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Reportedly Wanted to Live in Windsor Castle, but the Queen Had Other Ideas

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a28758899/meghan-markle-prince-harry-live-windsor-castle/
Sandie said…
The tweet from Royah was very badly worded, but the actual article claims that they will be moving to a property in the Windsor Great Park now, keeping Amner Hall on the Sandringham Estate, and will move into Windsor Castle when Charles becomes king.

If they are moving into Adelaide House, I assume they will have their offices in Windsor Castle (the Queen's private apartments only take up a small part of what is a huge castle).

I wonder what will happen to their apartments and offices in Kensington Palace? Will they keep those to use when they have to be in London for engagements?
TheGrangle said…
@Hikari
I echo Fifi la Rues' comments. Awesome posts that always hit the nail on the head and express what I could never say in such an erudite manner. There was a regular commentator in the Mail who repeatedly posted "All roads lead to Soho House" and of that I have little doubt. If the Blind about 6's vicious treatment of Afghan prostitutes is correct, then nothing would surprise me as to the depths that he could sink to, particularly if high on drugs, drink, frustration as well as a sense of invincibility and entitlement as a Prince of the Realm. He has serious problems that no amount of 'tapping' can resolve and the Royal Familys' attitude towards him at the Jubilee would indicate that the penny has finally dropped as to who and what he really is.

Through his own stupidity and arrogance I suspect that he's entered a world of darkness and filth that is way beyond his capacity to cope with. I believe he is more likely to sink rather than swim, particularly if the RF are resigned to a policy of damage limitation which out of necessity regards him as collateral damage.

As an aside, It was also interesting the speed at which a settlement was reached between Andrew and Virginia Guiffre following her lawyers suggestion that he may call * to the stand.....






Blue Dragon said…
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-94484/The-Rattlebone-Inn.html

This is an interesting read detailing Harry's behaviour when younger.
lizzie said…
I agree @Sandie that tweet was very badly worded.

I don't know what they'll do, but I'd think W&K would keep the KP apartment to use when they are in London. Unless they plan to do lots fewer appearances going forward (and that's possible, I guess), it would seem that there will be times one or both of them will need to stay over in London. And it's possible either one could end up with say, 2-3 hours between events periodically and want a comfy place to relax.

Even if it isn't likely to be used much, I don't see why they wouldn't officially keep it. Lots of taxpayer money was spent in renovating that apartment for them. It's not like it can be sold or rented to just any old rich person so why not keep it? If they say they aren't going to use it anymore, all that renovation money looks wasted. And if it suddenly were to be renovated again (of course at taxpayer expense) to turn it back into offices that would be bad PR in my opinion. (As I recall that apt was used for offices for some group before W&K asked for it instead of other KP apts they'd been offered.)

I know the US government throws away money hand over fist sometimes. So I'm not pitting one country against the other. But watching the BRF conversions of single-family homes to apartments, and apartments to single-family homes, homes to offices, offices to homes and so forth doesn't look like good planning. Looks more like "I want X today, make it happen."
Sandie said…
https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/prince-william-harry-bonus-for-monarchy-royal-family-reconciliation-b1005332.html

This article is quite astonishing (I will post some choice bits), but what I find hilarious is the negative reception it is getting, with one person simply leaving the comment 'Are you drunk?!'

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There was scant evidence William is making any effort to ease a reconciliation. In contrast, the Queen ensured Harry received his jubilee medal, was invited to St Paul’s (where the couple were loudly cheered) and were nearby if not actually on the Buckingham Palace balcony. Many of the other royals attended Lilibet’s birthday party on the Saturday, proving there is still a large portion of the family who are determined to keep loving channels open.

The princes’ grandmother, whilst no doubt desperately wishing these two brothers’ were friends again, understands the power of a family united. She knows that Harry and Meghan’s undoubtable star power both here and abroad, if harnessed correctly even as non-serving royals, remains a huge bonus for the international royal brand.
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I don't think I need to post any more for you to grasp how ridiculous it is!
OCGal said…
@Blue Dragon, thank you for sourcing this old-but-relevant article about teenage Harry's drinking and vomiting antics. I was shocked to read he was already known to drink and smoke by age 11. The article also reconfirms he is a "come one, come all for abuse" of young women, teens, barkeeps, schoolmates, and even the premises of the Duke of Westminster's Grosvenor Estate.

Harry at this point is IRREDEEMABLE. I don't think he could stop his abusive ways now, even if he wanted do. That includes self-abuse by drink (and drugs, if Lady C's silent but obvious "sniffing sniffing sniffing" implies drug use) and abuse of others. I suspect Second Row Rachel can give as good as she gets in the abuse department, but I have genuine fear for the two children, if they exist. For their own sake, I pray they are just figments of a demented duo's imagination. I genuinely pray that they don't exist, for if they do exist, they don't stand a chance.

@Blue Dragon, thank you again for sourcing this downer of an srticle:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-94484/The-Rattlebone-Inn.html
Girl with a Hat said…
@Sandie,

Lainey Lui is always going on about the Twat and her handbag's "star power". Adolf Hitler's name has star power as well, but you wouldn't want his name appearing next to yours anywhere.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/va1z76/lmao_at_this_jeff_bell_cartoon/

hilarious cartoon!
Mel said…
From that article it sounds like he was abusing teenage girls when he was only 15 years old. Says a lot, eh?

Does make you wonder what MM might have over him, or perhaps Marcus is the one who has something over him.
DesignDoctor said…
Thank you @Blue Dragon for posting the article. His history of bad behavior is much worse than I imagined.
@Hikari
I'd had the sickening thought that the blackmail might have a `cinematic connection' just before I read your post and wondered if I dared mention the possibility...
Museumstop said…
Came across an interesting collection of comments left over time by a Hollywood industry person on the Harkles subreddit.

Some insight: According to this poster (of course all allegedly)

Hillary and daughter are almost star-struck by Harkles. The couple was seen at a fund Dem fund raiser at a private home in San Diego about some months ago. The wife it seems was flirting with all men she could. They werent being their loved-up selves, the PDA is for cameras only.
The wife has the Clintons, she wants the Obamas. But the Harkles are stingy and that doesnt help in these circles.

Talk of them being broke isn't true. H is yet to break into his trust funds. They are just cheap.

Archie is part of a local playgroup but no one talks because it's not that big a thing locally. The wife likes to build mystery and speciality around the children as it creates talking points.

Hollywood doesnt hate them, just doesnt want to hand them things on platter when most have had to work hard for what they have.

It's H who begged incessantly for a meet with the Queen - they weren't summoned. Netflix pushed H for it to prop up 'royal' brand, H badgered until Charles and the Queen agreed to a quick meet.

Super bowl seat was Salesforce box, connection through BetterUp.

Netflix paid advance for production for both Pearl and Invictus. Advance was little less than 4 mil (I don't know if poster means the amount for both or just one project).

Shy Diana, blushing inexperienced Diana was a myth and cultivated, she lit up before cameras. The real charmer in person is Fergie. (Poster claims to have had personal encounters)
Sandie said…
@GWAH
Spot on! And, the Kardashians are still probably more well-known and culturally influential, and definitely a lot wealthier.

The duo should have taken the shallow lifestyle influencer route from the beginning. They could have earned a lot through merching and endorsements.
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The birthday photographer posted a photo of him and his daughter sitting in the garden on a lounger (striped cushion) during the birthday party (daughter with face paint). This is the lounger she had in Toronto and photographed herself sitting on to post on The Tig. It definitely is the exact same lounger. They shipped it from Toronto to Windsor? Wouldn't it be much cheaper and easier to buy a new one in the UK?
Sandie said…
"It is claimed the couple only secured a 15-minute meeting with the Queen over the four-day Jubilee celebrations last weekend, with senior royal aides reportedly describing the tone as 'formal'."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10907889/William-Kate-Windsor-Andrew-Scotland-Harry-got-15-minute-Queen.html

The Queen does those quick and formal meetings so well ... she has been doing them for 70 years!
Both William and Charles have stated there’s too many royal properties. I know BP is earmarked for alternative uses.

Most senior working royals have a London home and a country home, I don’t have an issue with it, the royals are still cheaper than a President etc. overall. The larger royal properties are very costly to maintain so it makes sense to let BP go and let it pay for itself. KP is partially open in the public already. 😃
Sandie said…
I can't find the source, but supposedly Oprah said that the money spent on Jubilee celebrations should have been used to make reparations.

Is there another, much worse, Oprah interview on the horizon?

Oprah, like her friends the ex-royals, loves to play the victimhood, outraged blame game, and to assume she can tell anyone and everyone what to do. I see her living a life of extreme distasteful luxury (from money made from being an entertainer), and has done nothing significant (like Bill Gates) to actually make a difference in the world that significantly benefits all of humanity.

As for reparations ... who pays and who benefits? Is that determined by the amount of melamine in your skin? How very racist!
Sandie said…
"On Sunday 12 June 2022, HRH The Duchess of Cornwall and Dame Joanna Lumley are set to launch a brand-new podcast that over 54 episodes will explore the poetry, the heritage and the people of each of the 54 countries of the Commonwealth."

Camilla has a busy life, but has managed to record 54 podcasts in a very short time.

Duchess of Montecito? Almost two years, so many staff, so much free time ... one podcast!

The duo have failed because they have no talent and no work ethic and are too self-absorbed in their entitlement victimhood and hubris, not for any other reasons.

Note also that Camilla announces the project when it is done and ready to launch. TBW is really good at making grand announcements through various channels, and then does not deliver.l
Sandie said…
@Museumstop
Thanks for sharing that great find. The most authentic-sounding tea I have come across so far.
Teasmade said…
@Sandie. Wow. In a little regard as I hold Oprah already (and this is nothing new, it goes way back for me) I can't believe she'd be impolitic enough as to opine on the Jubilee and reparations.

For one thing, it just makes no sense, it's an apples-and-oranges kind of proposition, but also none of your business and who asked you???

Ugh. See what damage that wedding invitation did? Now she thinks she matters!
Sandie said…
BP and WC are also partially open to the public, and earn a considerable amount from entrance fees, running a tea room, and sales from a gift shop. (Plus both get used for state events and hosting overseas visitors, activities which require the head if state.) No matter what they are used for, upkeep costs the same for the buildings and everything in them. A further consideration is what to do with all the stuff in those palaces. One cannot earn significantly more from making the entire buildings museums, and one cannot simply rent out rooms filled with priceless objects. Any savings from not having staff to care for the personal needs of royals would be spent on the additional security required, and the staff required to manage the palaces. As a private sector endeavour, the management of these places would require very high salary packages; the royals are known for not paying top dollar for their staff. (The Queen is cheap compared with what a CEO would expect to earn.)

In places like Russia, the monarchy was abolished and the royal family slaughtered so it makes sense for them to turn the huge former royal palaces into museums and art galleries (unlike in France, the treasures in those palaces were not looted). But, even in Russia, that is mainly all those former grand royal residences are used for, because they are not practically suited for anything else because they are home to priceless artifacts.

Most of the value of these palaces is that they are home to royals. Part of the thrill of a visit is that 'this is where the Queen lives and I might just be lucky and see her!'.
Sandie said…
https://anonymoushouseplantfan.tumblr.com/post/187633078451/omg-how-did-i-not-know-about-that-photo-of

This is an epic post from a blogger who stopped posting a long time ago. Perhaps she is joining the dots incorrectly, but, darn, it makes interesting reading (and assumes that the hapless one was in the know and a collaborator from the start):
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PART I
Oh, she has absolute tons of dirt and most of it already came out. They just used the statement, the “classy” pr drive, and some clever press management to defuse the bombs.

We kept waiting and waiting for the dirt to come out in 2016 and it never did, so we assumed they didn’t have any dirt on her, but they did. They had tons.

Remember what fall of 2016 looked like. She leaked the relationship on the date her Reitman’s collection came out, so people were already suspicious. The timeline with Cory was not working out. The tabloids were printing all her sexy scenes and pics, including the Deal or No Deal pics, the file room scene from Suits and the burger photoshoot. Del Zotto and McIlroy stories were running rampant. Sam was shrieking all over the place. There were rumors she was going on the tour with him. There were blinds that her exes, her friends and her family were selling all her dirt. There were blinds about nudes and soft porn movies. It was chaos, and Meghan left Suits for an emergency meeting with London lawyers.

Then the KP statement came out and everything shut down. The statement was supposedly about racist coverage, but it also mentioned legal wranglings and “bribery,” so it wasn’t just about racism. We didn’t know what the tabs had then, but we know now.

They had the Snapchat pic, the topless honeymoon pics, the topless pics from the Greek islands, the 90210 oral sex video, and the “Truth About Boys and Girls” coke-snorting video.

http://www.tmrzoo.com/2015/67836/suits-star-meghan-markle-has-a-nude-snapchat-photo-leaked-pics

https://www.inquisitr.com/3815120/meghan-markle-nude-photo-leaked-pictures-showing-prince-harrys-girlfriend-naked-is-reminiscent-of-kate-middletons-topless-leak/

https://celebsunmasked.com/meghan-markle-nude-video-explicit-pics-leaked/

https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/778429/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-Suits-saucy-SEX-scene-Beverly-Hills-90210-revamp

https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/16/pre-royal-meghan-markle-seen-snorting-cocaine-partygirl-soon-released-2011-tv-film-8646195/
...
Sandie said…
PART II
They had Trevor’s wedding album, and Ninaki’s Buckingham Palace pics, Rodeo Drive video, and Diana worship revelations. They had the marijuana wedding favors.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4103188/Look-away-Harry-Intimate-new-photos-emerge-Prince-s-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle-wedding-celebrations-ex-husband-Trevor-Engleson.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6533983/Meghan-Markle-boasted-friends-giving-marijuana-guests-wedding-Jamaica.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5126431/Meghan-Markle-Buckingham-Palace-aged-15.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5160821/18-year-old-Meghan-Markle-cruises-LA-home-video.html

They had the Working Actress blog and all of her “gift suite” pics.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5428533/Meghan-Markles-secret-diary-soul-baring-blog.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4264702/Meghan-Markle-s-past-love-freebies-revealed.html

They had the porn star ex. They had the Ashley Cole convo with a freaking DM reporter, and the desperate Twitter and Soho House flirting with any UK celeb who acknowledged her existence.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5720749/Meghan-Markle-dumped-garlic-breath-snogged-end-date-says-Simon-Rex.html

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9147951/meghan-markle-ashley-cole-lizzie-cundy/

https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a27687089/meghan-markle-max-george-the-wanted-twitter-flirting/

The only dirt they didn’t have was the ghosting of her dad, which hadn’t happened yet, and the ghosting of the State Department uncle and the Garlands who were still hoping for wedding invites and hadn’t spoken to the press. They may not have had the Nina Cowne revelations because she was likely also waiting for a wedding invite. Pier was also wedding for his invite, so he wasn’t ranting and raving like he is now. The niece and brothers hadn’t talked to the press either, I don’t think.
Sandie said…
PART III
But they had everything else. They had it in November 2016 and that’s why Harry had to put out the statement and shut everything down. That’s also why he went on a charm initiative during his Caribbean tour and gave the Express an interview. It’s also why the Remembrance pap walk pics and stories were leaked to the DM, the Christmas tree story was leaked to the Telegraph, and the West End pics were given to the Sun. Everyone got a little Christmas present from Harry in exchange for keeping the Meghan’s copious amounts of dirt under wraps.

With the race card, a bunch of posed pics, leaked stories and interviews, and some strategic lying about how Meghan wasn’t the girl in the nude pics, had “already met Charles” and “had gotten along well with Will,” Harry successfully delayed the release of the dirt. That gave them time to work on the “classy” pr makeover and send Meghan to India for some much-needed humanitarian cosplaying.
If all of that dirt had gotten out in 2016, she would have been dead as a dodo. The nudes wouldn’t have been the deadliest revelations. The coke-snorting scene alone would have sunk her, and the mariuana wedding favors would have finished the job.

But the press ate up the leaks about moving into Nott Cott and filling it with candles and giving Kate dream diaries and crap, and they sat on the stories until after the engagement, when everything started coming out. They actually put out some of the stories in 2017, but edited them so they weren’t as damaging. Thus, they revealed the “party” movie, but didn’t mention the coke-snorting scene. They published Trevor’s wedding pics, but didn’t reveal the marijuana wedding favors. They mentioned her 90210 work, but didn’t publish the oral sex scene. She was still leaking them stupid Norway vacay and Dino date stories, so they were careful not to kill the goose that laid the golden eggs.

By the time they published the real dirt it was too late to do any damage. Thanks to the India trip, the Time Mag Period essay, and the Vanity Fair article on One Young World, she had already established her “humanitarian” persona. Mind you, it didn’t do the tabs any harm money wise. They probably made more money holding on to the dirt and releasing it after she had the ring. The delay got them more money, but made the stories less damaging.

That’s why I say I don’t understand why the brf didn’t let the DM finish her off in 2016. They had plenty of ammo. Tons and tons of it. Heck, they had nuclear ammo. Harry must have done some epic tantruming, guilt-tripping, and lying to get it done.

And I do get a good giggle whenever I think of all the crap stories Meghan and Harry put out about how they would be so much more cooperative with the press than Will and Kate and how Meghan was a seasoned media professional who knew how to give the press what they needed and all that bs. They even said she would “champion” UK brands, hahahahaha. Tom Sykes used to write super long essays about it. LOLOLOLOLOL, the laugh’s on them. They got totally played. The “friendly” leaks lasted until her position was secured and she could pivot back to the US on a Givenchy-clad foot.
Sandie said…
The Working Girl blog was analysed and there is compelling indications that this was not written by her, but it could have been.

Even if there is stuff in this long analysis/summary by anonymoushouseplant, there is a lot of accuracy in the brilliant post.
Sandie said…
https://anonymoushouseplantfan.tumblr.com/post/187633078451/omg-how-did-i-not-know-about-that-photo-of

If you want to read the original, which I tried to post here in three parts. When we are bombarded with luvvie PR or an innicent victimhood narrative, like now, I find it is useful to return to a 'gathering of information' and be reminded just how trashy she is and just how complicit he is.

I have not found the source of the Oprah information. I find it believable, but I may be wrong.
Girl with a Hat said…
someone over at reddit made a comment that made me laugh so hard:

they (the BRF) should have invited the Kardashians and they should have seated Kim Kardashian right next to Markle!


Can you imagine how angry the twat would have been if that happened! LOL! but, the BRF, Kim Kardashian has "star power" and we need to harness that to help our image. LOL!
Girl with a Hat said…
sorry about that last sentence not making any sense. I was just laughing so hard. It should have read "but, the BRF should argue, Kim Kardashian has "star power""
@Sandie,

If Charles relinquishes BP, it means no royals will live there unlike they do now. My understanding is it will become partly an exhibition/museum building and offices. Who’s to say it can’t or won’t be sold? The current updating and renovation of BP is costing 100’s of millions. 🥴I’m pretty sure there was at least one more building flagged, but I can’t remember which it was. 🥴
OCGal said…
Good morning, Nutties. Here is a very clever and funny 4 1/2 minute video from Pilot Hardy entitled “The REAL Sussex Wedding Revealed!”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tiEgeXyufao&feature=youtu.be

Enjoy!
Enbrethiliel said…
@HIkari
why did he dump her for 9 months only to pick her up again and resume their folie a deux? Seems like there had to be a pretty huge incentive for H to start paying her court again after all that time.

I agree with the point you're making, and blackmail definitely explains everything to the wedding day and well into the Oceana tour.

But then Harry became a willing participant in Archiegate and everything that followed. If he truly felt backed into a corner at their wedding day (which is plausible, given all our photo and video evidence), why did he go along with this scheme a few months later? These are the actions of a partner in crime rather than a victim.

H could have blazed the way as the first openly gay Royal at least in modern memory. With William's heirs secure, I think his family would have accommodated that revelation quite well.

A few years ago, a Nutty suggested that Prince William's famous statement that he would support any of his children, if they came out as LGBT, was actually a message to his brother. I don't know about that, but I do agree that William would have had Harry's back on this. Had Harry been willing to risk the scandal of whatever dirt * had on him, it would have been a very bad storm, but he might have come out of it as another kind of Hero Harry in time for his grandmother's Platinum Jubilee.

I guess I'm still on the fence. Even if the big secret were that Harry were gay, I don't see how it explains why he went nuclear on a family that would have supported him.
Enbrethiliel said…
The idea of reparations is a game nobody wins. No matter how much you give, in the end it will never be enough.
snarkyatherbest said…
girl in the Hat. the harkles would have loved having jim kardashian close by. all those pics to be in all eyes one her. they would have loved to be in close proximity to trashy royalty. i would actually feel sorry for kim kardashian because someone would have been chatting her ear off working angles “let’s do some deals together” type of vibe.

BP already has the are gallery open to the public. would love more rooms devoted to that. they have the biggest collection of Canaletto paintings in the world. i wonder what else is housed abington the royal collections heck rent out the balcony for hordes of money for bridal pics. 😉.

do we saw that black grid “caught” pics of Harry at polo. did the wife show up or is she still licking her wounds. and still no kids sighting. we know she looks on the blogs. perhaps a hashtag #wheresarchie can trend 😉
Enbrethiliel said…
@Sandie has mentioned the sun lounge that * owned in Toronto and is now asking us to believe she had shipped to Frogmore Cottage.

Here is a tweet with photos: https://mobile.twitter.com/jojo_marsh/status/1535781096113451008

As someone who recently made a big move, I do find it plausible that someone was so attached to a piece of furniture that she decided to take it across an ocean instead of simply buying a replacement. What I find hard to swallow is that she didn't take this object of great sentimentality back across the same ocean when she made her second big move.

A birthday party for Lili at Montecito would have been a billion times more believable, but oh no, * wanted to keep her connections with that "racist" royal family. And now she has been outed as a liar yet again. The total lack of thought that goes into her schemes absolutely blows my mind.
lizzie said…
Re: the garden furniture- I don't think it's the same. The metal pattern looks a little different to me as does the construction of the pillows. Cushions with a colored stripe alternating with white are very common after all. I also doubt she took furniture with her to the UK because:

1. Her house in Toronto was rented and may have come furnished.
2. I can't imagine she'd be attached to much of anything she owned but would always be reaching for the next new shiny possession.
3. She supposedly left a bunch of her clothes behind in Canada. (& her dog)
4. Maybe she simply bought furniture in the UK that looked like what she left behind if she liked that style. She managed to alter the ring Harry gave her to look like the one she left behind with Trevor, after all. Or maybe it's Eugenie's furniture if she & Jack have really been living there.
Sandie said…
Interesting ... the following is from the Monte Ito Journal:

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The dispute came about after Harry tried to get the charity's logo on clothing.
Andrew Lomas, representing Invictus, highlighted the Prince's role at a hearing of the trademark tribunal in London, arguing the name Invictus is synonymous with royalty.

He said: “Such is the fame and repute of Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, that conceptually Invictus will now automatically bring to mind the [charity], royalty and/or wounded injured and sick servicemen and servicewomen."

Leisa Davies, the hearing officer at the tribunal, ruled last month that a shopper seeing the word Invictus on some clothing would not automatically associate it with the charity.

She added it would also unlikely “bring to mind the association with Prince Harry, royalty and servicemen and women”.
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Sandie said…
I was wrong about the garden furniture. Similar, but not the same. Did she rent the place in Toronto fully furnished? I always had the sense that the decor was entirely her doing and she replicated the style in Mudslide Manor.

Rent out balcony at BP to bridal parties for loads of money? Eek!
Sandie said…
On the other hand, the apartments at KP have been refurbished over and over again. If no Royals can afford to lease them, they would earn a huge sum leased to private citizens.
Hikari said…
@Embre

I think I may have been the Nutty that floated that theory. William was addressing an LGBTQ+ charity if I recall the context. Since his children were very young at the time, and Louis was a newborn, it seemed like his remarks could have had a dual meaning with a message in his brother’s direction. If Harry’s preference for blokes emerged at Eton, William would have no doubt heard through the grapevine, if Haz couldn’t tell him directly. Then of course came the Army. The anecdotal evidence of H’s violence toward sex workers points to some pretty deep-seated hatred of women. This would be a pretty common reaction of a guy who feels on able to perform or inadequate with women. At the time of the infamous pool party in Vegas, H did not act like he didn’t enjoy the company of unclothed young ladies. So he’s probably bisexual, but when someone identifies as bi, I take that to mean that while they are open to experiencing all kinds of sexual encounters, their preference is for same-sex. If Harry’s been outled with drink and drugs since he was a preteen, I’m not sure he’s ever experienced enough of life sober to know who he is or what he wants really. He takes anything on offer because it’s there for a Prince of the UK.


Once he aligned himself with Maggot and allowed her to direct all of their activities as a couple, he lost any right to my sympathy. He certainly knows what’s what about these kids, but the final straw for me was when he abandoned the Royal Marines In favor of pimping his wife out for Disney. Isn’t it funny how the same guy who can take multiple hops over the pond and the continent of North America for these 48 hour fly by visits to London found it impossible to take a chopper from Kent to London—a couple hours’ drive by car— in order to attend the memorial concert in the afternoon and still make the movie premiere? He had ignored the invitation to the Marines memorial for months. He only declined at the last minute and I don’t believe he ever had any intention of going. He’s as big a fraud as his wife.

Enbrethiliel said…
@Hikari
If Harry’s preference for blokes emerged at Eton, William would have no doubt heard through the grapevine, if Haz couldn’t tell him directly.

This is another reason why I think the family would have already known, if this were indeed the case. Prince William wouldn't have been the only one to hear of it. If true, it's the best kept secret in Britain's aristo circles. And they would be commendable for not outing him.

I’m not sure he’s ever experienced enough of life sober to know who he is or what he wants really. He takes anything on offer because it’s there for a Prince of the UK.

This is probably true and it makes me sad. There's also the possibility that he has been desensitized by all the excesses (alcohol, drugs, sex, etc.) that he has indulged in since his youth that he needs to keep upping the ante to enjoy any of it any longer. I recall reading that straight men who heavily consume p0rn eventually start watching much more violent films or even gay stuff, because after a while, it's the only thing that can still excite them. We know that Harry has been violent toward women and we now speculate that he may also be in the closet. Perhaps he just got too much, too fast, too young. And then * came along, to harness the worst in him.

I do have some sympathy for Harry, but only up to a point. He has made some astoundingly bad decisions and finds a new way to double down each month. The way out of his self-inflicted hell is clear. That he doesn't want to take it is really on him.
Blue Dragon said…
Hikari said

"but the final straw for me was when he abandoned the Royal Marines In favor of pimping his wife out for Disney."

That was the final straw for me as well.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Museumstop
Hillary and daughter are almost star-struck by Harkles.

May I ask the American Nutties how much influence the Clintons still have in the US? It seems to me, from the opposite side of the world, that they're pretty much over politically, and that an association with them might harm rather than hurt a social climber. But is this actually not the case?
Mel said…
That's my impression, too. That a social climber would probably not want to be associated with the Clintons, publicly anyway. A much better association would be the Obamas.

Although I suppose that the Clintons could open doors behind the scenes for her. Maybe that's where she got the personal phone numbers for those 2 senators?

Remember on their UN visit that they inserted themselves into a meeting with Chelsea Clinton?
I think they were trying to horn in on vaccine manufacturing outside of the US.
SwampWoman said…
Enbrethiliel said: Blogger Enbrethiliel said...
@Museumstop
Hillary and daughter are almost star-struck by Harkles.

May I ask the American Nutties how much influence the Clintons still have in the US? It seems to me, from the opposite side of the world, that they're pretty much over politically, and that an association with them might harm rather than hurt a social climber. But is this actually not the case?


Could it be that Hillary is shopping for a new son in law to make Chelsea real royalty?

Are they still politically active? Former President Clinton's special assistant Mark Middleton that flew on the Lolita Express and admitted Epstein into the White House died by suicide and was found on May 7. He allegedly trespassed onto somebody's property, climbed onto a table, put an extension cord around a tree limb, tied it around the limb and his neck, then shot himself in the chest with a shotgun. I suppose the noose was a backup to his somehow surviving a shotgun blast at point blank range to the chest. It was almost like a message was being sent. But, of course, it was a suicide.

The thoroughness of the suicide convinces some people that the Clintons are still active. PP and 6 should probably not cavalierly dismiss them as has beens and nonentities, lest they have a sad yet creative demise.
Sandie said…
If the dastardly duo were at a private fund-raising do with Hillary and Chelsea Clinton, and she has not used that information for publicity, then I suspect she actually has political ambitions and they are being indulged by the Clintons and some Democrat supporters.

She can't even consider running for office unless she has big donors backing her and the support of the political machinery of the Democratic Party. For once, she has to do work behind the scenes to win that kind of support.

Unless she is doing fund-raising for Clinton ... just not like her (or him) to do something for someone else and not even get media attention/publicity for it. Or is Clinton trying for the top job again and has promised a plum job in Washington for the duchess of Montecito?

Or is hobnobbing with the Clintons and some wealthy people an ego trip for them, soothing their rejection in Hollywood and other failures and making them feel important again? They do love doing secret stuff!
Enbrethiliel said…
@Mel
Although I suppose that the Clintons could open doors behind the scenes for her. Maybe that's where she got the personal phone numbers for those 2 senators?

Interesting conjecture! However * got them, it was definitely from someone who didn't want to make the association public. I so, then the general reaction to her meddling showed the secret source that furthering the connection would be a bad idea.

And now that you remind us of the time she meddled in family leave, it dawns on me that she hasn't tried anything similar over what seems to be the latest big issue in US politics: Gun control. It is so unlike her not to jump on a bandwagon that I'll go out on a limb and say that she initially did want to get involved. And perhaps the publicity stunt at Uvalde was meant to be the "teaser" to this new direction for her. But the public reaction to that was just so negative that she not only had to abandon these plans, but also sweep them under the rug by appearing at the Jubilee celebrations.

@Holly

Even if they (or anyone) had been starstruck at the beginning, the bloom has definitely, obviously, embarrassingly faded by now. To paraphrase @Magatha, the shine is gone and only verdigris is left.
Mel said…
she not only had to abandon these plans, but also sweep them under the rug by appearing at the Jubilee celebrations.
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I personally think that's the *only* reason they went to the Jubilee Celebrations.

I think they had polo all lined up as their excuse not to show.
And then she got so much so much flack for the Uvalde trip that they had to do something to cancel all of that.

Although, once again, she probably could not have whipped those clothes up in 4 days. That had to have been preplanned.

She did that with the Invictus Games also. It appeared that she made the decision to go at the last minute but then she shows up with a whole bunch of clothes that probably were not whipped up in 2 or 3 days.

Interesting that the Uvalde trip clearly was not preplanned and she shows up looking like a hobo for that.
Ian's Girl said…
@SwampWoman, I wasn't going to mention the latest Arkancide, but it does give food for thought.

One wonders if perhaps Bill and Nutmeg are keeping each others secrets?
Fifi LaRue said…
@Enbreth: I don't believe the Clinton women are starstruck by Madam Cockroach and her pet. Maybe meeting them once was kind of exciting, but the Cockroaches aren't useful for anything. They are way too cheap to make huge campaign donations, and the Cockroaches have no influence whatsoever, so they are useless as power fundraisers.

Madam Cockroach is not speaking out against gun control because then that would put her front and center on a hot issue. The Cockroaches would be inundated with requests for donations from big time campaigners; they are too cheap to spend money on anything else but herself and her personal publicity and her fake news.
Henrietta said…
Although I suppose that the Clintons could open doors behind the scenes for her. Maybe that's where she got the personal phone numbers for those 2 senators?

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) admitted giving MM the numbers.

https://pagesix.com/2t021/11/04/meghan-markle-blasted-for-cold-calling-us-senators-with-royal-title/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
SwampWoman said…
Ian's Girl said...
@SwampWoman, I wasn't going to mention the latest Arkancide, but it does give food for thought.

One wonders if perhaps Bill and Nutmeg are keeping each others secrets?


I can't see her keeping anything secret if she is questioned by any type of law enforcement entity, particularly one that can promise a long stretch in Federal prison. Even though she has said that she lies all the time, she is not going to protect anybody other than herself. (Maybe if she's fearful enough, though?)

The Clintons are (allegedly) pretty efficient about eliminating loose ends. I expect that whatever secrets she has isn't about them.
HappyDays said…
I don’t see Meghan running for or holding ANY elected or appointed office in the US. Because sge us married to the sixth in line for the throne and because she holds multiple royal titles by marriage, it would give the Queen, Charles, and William plus the British government an excellent excuse of strip her of all of her royal titles. The British public would also be outraged that a Duchess in the British Royal Family being part of the government of a foreign nation.

At a minimum, it would be incredibly bad optics in the UK and the Commonwealth.

I am not familiar with British law, but there might be legal reasons why a royal would not be allowed to hold an elected or spoointed office in a foreign nation. Even though she is not a British citizen because she only wanted the title and didn’t give a rip about actually becoming a British citizen, questions would come up on both sides of the Atlantic regarding her allegiance to the country that is the source of her title, fame, wealth and entire lifestyle, or her allegiance to interests of the United States.

It would be a huge sticky mess that if allowed by the UK, could further harm the institution of the monarchy or perhaps even end it.

No one can serve two masters.
Magatha Mistie said…

@OcGal
Hahahaha, that is hilarious.
Will’s crying, meh’s greed, gold 👏

Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar@OCGal
Changed me photo,
didn’t realise, blind eyed iPhone!!

@Enbreth
Verdigris
Tarnished wannabe
Corrosive acidity
Oh so, secondary…

Maneki Neko said…
Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think * can run for office. I'm not American so could well be wrong but when I looked it up I found that to be able to run in an election for President, one must, among other conditions, be a resident of the United States for at least 14 years. These qualifications are established in Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution. Do correct me if I'm wrong but I think this would preclude madam from even applying.

By the way, I don't use PP for *, meaning poontang princess, because I think we sometimes used these initials for Prince Philip and in any case she's no princess (only in the other sense of the word)😁
Magatha Mistie said…

Pulled Whine

“Andrew Pulls Out”
good headline from DM😉
From the Garter ceremony
thanks to Charles and William
Arrow sent flying
across second row
Watch out haz
and your second hand ho…


Enbrethiliel said…
@Henrietta
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) admitted giving MM the numbers.

Thanks! What happened after she revealed this? Were there repercussions from her colleagues or her constituents? Or was there a lot of sound and fury at first, but no real political consequences?
Magatha Mistie said…

*Folie deux Lie-ly

Breakfast at Hillarys
oat milk latte’s for two
Vying to decide
whom will screw who
Decision’s been made
by those still at the top
Asslick and Asswipe
will be given the chop…

*Holly Golightly
Breakfast at Tiffanys

lizzie said…
@Maneki Neko,

MM does meet the requirements to run for president as do many millions of other people. She is a natural born citizen, she is at least 35 and she did live in the US from birth to about age 30 or so (and probably could say she retained US residency while in Canada for Suits) and has been back in the US since March 2020. So at a minimum, leaving out the Suits years, she's lived in the US for 32 years, way beyond the required 14.(The requirement is not "the last 14 years.")

Her title would not prevent her from running either (from the perspective of US law.) I know some have claimed Clause 8 Titles of Nobility and Emoluments would but plenty of experts have disputed that. That clause prevents elected officials from accepting foreign titles without Congressional approval, it doesn't bar anyone with an existing title from ever running for office. However, she'd be advised to not wave her titles around when campaigning and they couldn't appear on the ballot, but she wouldn't have to renounce them (which she probably can't even do as long as she's married to Harry since they are courtesy titles.)

That said, I do not think she'd have the support to run. From anyone. For anything. The Democrat party has plenty of young woke wannabes. Those aren't in short supply. What's missing is a unifying person who is under age 70. Meghan isn't that person. Of that I am quite sure.
Magatha Mistie said…

My mum, 85, had a wonderful
Jubilee weekend celebrating
the Queen.
She, and her friends, said
Harry deserved the boos.
I agree.
@Maneki Neko,

Thanks for the PP thing. I had no idea, I couldn’t understand why Prince Philip was being spoken about in such a derogatory way by some Nutties. I’ve only referred to Prince Philip as that, but understood PP was the abbreviated form. 🥴
Hikari said…
Maneki,

As much as it pains me to admit, Methane meets the requirements to run for the highest office in our land. The 14 years residency need not be consecutive prior to the election. M was a full-time US resident from birth until about 30 years of age when she moved to Canada for work. She never gave up her American passport while living abroad. She meets the other two conditions of being over 35 and natural born as a citizen. Her courtesy title by marriage would be problematic, though she’d be a test case as we’ve never had anyone with a foreign title seek elected office to my knowledge. She would certainly be prohibited from using her title in her campaign in any form. She would be ripped to shreds by the opposition; so part of me wants to to see her try it.
Magatha Mistie said…

She has nothing left.
She will run for office.

Observant One said…
Interesting article, by Robert Eringer published June 12, 2022 in the Santa Barbara News Press:
https://newspress.com/the-duke-duchess-of-woke-or-woe/
CatEyes said…
Interesting Daily Mail tidbit confirming the 6's and their alleged children (The'Inviskids') formal 15 minute meeting with the Queen.

The article goes on to mention Harry's recent Polo game while his friends, the McPhee's looked on with their young child BUT noticably Mrs. 6 did not go to the event. Maybe she should have because there's a photo showing Delphina (Mrs. Nacho) hanging her arm around the Prince. Hmmmmm...In fact, the extensive photos show 'H' looking more happy and relaxed than I have seen him featured in a long time.

Could Meghan skipping the Polo game reflect her lack of interest in her husband's passions (reminds me of how Diana was not too keen on Charles's pastimes). Is there trouble in paradise for the 6's?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10910511
gfbcpa said…
Raspberry Ruffle- Sometimes the late Prince Phillip was referred to here as DOE for the Duke of Edinburgh. Now I guess he would be TLDOE.

Hikari - If she attempts to run for ANY political office ANYWHERE in the US, all the dirt will come spilling out like a volcanic eruption. I am old enough (freshman year of high school) to remember when Senator Tom Eagleton was picked by George McGovern to be his running mate in the 1972 presidential election. He lasted 18 days. Republicans dug through his life and found out that he had sought treatment for depression in the past. The tip came from an anonymous caller who told McGovern's staff that Eagleton had a "complicated medical background."
Enbrethiliel said…
I'm one of those who would LOVE it if * ran for office in the US. It's low risk for US citizens, as she would never win. And in the process of losing, she'd have to deal with American reporters doing some real digging.
Sandie said…
Thanks to folk sharing knowledge of political landscape, elections and the Clintons.

I do so want her to run for office, preferably the top job in the state or country. Petty, I know, but gosh it would be something to see! Whining about Catherine making her cry? But bitchily referring to future Princess of Wales and Queen as Waity Katey? Tremulously, on the verge of fake tears, complaining that no one asked if she is ok, while representing Queen and country on a tour?

Republicans have deep pockets. They will find real dirt and dirt that even she has forgotten about!

Unfortunately, I think she wants the easy route so will manipulate her way into some powerful non-elected position. But, I can hope!
Sandie said…
Meghan Markle swaps two words of a quote from EE Cummings and passes it off as her own work.

As usual, organisations like
@TheWomensOrg don’t bother fact checking the blatant plagiarism.

Just like the abortion story, just like so many of her speeches and ‘quotes’ it’s stolen.

https://mobile.twitter.com/oodgieboodgie/status/1536081686164914176
@gfbcpa,

Specifically, it was the PP abbreviation which was the problem, where it’s been used to mean Megsy as well.
lizzie said…
@gfbcpa,

I remember Thomas Eagleton too. The things I remember were

1. That it wasn't just that TE had sought treatment for depression, it was that he'd had multiple sessions of ECT ("shock therapy") While that shouldn't (IMO) have been an *instant* disqualifier, back then ECT was done differently. And was more likely to cause lingering problems. It's also true (then and now) that about 50% of the people who have one episode of depression will have another. Being close to nuclear codes is kind of a big deal. So questions needed to be asked.

2. It was pretty amazing McGovern's team hadn't looked into TE's background a bit more carefully before choosing him as a running mate. That info wasn't hard to find apparently but McGovern's camp claimed they hadn't known. Perhaps TE lied to the team (reason enough to dump him IMO)

3. McGovern said he was behind TE "1000%" but dumped him a few days later. I've distrusted people who use that expression ever since.

We have been told by MM she was suicidal a mere 3 1/2 years ago. As far as we can tell, she essentially said work pressures made her want to kill herself and kill her baby. I don't think she can be a presidential candidate for that reason alone. If wearing hats, being expected to be well-dressed and neatly groomed, riding around in chauffered cars, waving, and making polite small talk with strangers a couple of times a week was too much for her, no one with any sense would think she ought to be in the pressure-filled Oval Office. Personally I can't imagine she'd run. Or if she did, that she could get any ballots for the primaries. Real people would have to sign petitions.

At least Marianne Williamson had written best-selling books (not my cup of tea but not garbage like The Bench), had been in political circles for years, had run for office before, and had done charity work (she founded Project Angel Food H&M delivered a few meals for) But she still couldn't get traction. An admitted liar (I'm such a fraud), who has been caught plagiarizing a number of times, who says she was recently suicidal, who has been publicly fighting with her elderly father whose health is precarious, who has been publicly fighting with her husband's family and appeared on Oprah to do it while her husband's grandfather was dying, and who has been accused of bullying staff is not going to be a hot candidate. She can wave the race card all she wants. She's not going to be elected to national office. Maybe she could get elected to something in CA but she and her husband don't seem to be popular even in Montecito.
Maneki Neko said…
@lizzie, @Hikari

Thanks for the correction. I did wonder after I'd posted if the 14 years meant just prior to running for office. Anyway, if she were to run for office - doubtful but she's delusional enough - she doesn't have the enormous funds required or, I don't think, the backers. As for the press, it would have a field day digging up the dirt.
Hikari said…
Magatha,

She has nothing left.
She will run for office.


Methane has amply proved that she's deluded enough to try it. She's probably emboldened by Kamala Harris's election as Vice President and thinks she can do Kamala one better and take the top job. I would call Ms. Harris (she does not use her husband's name) very lightly qualified for her office, and she's not having an easy time of it. She is VERY similar to Methane in a number of pertinent ways, like using her sexual wiles to earn undeserved promotions, work shyness, visible ignorance of the issues and a tendency to blame all her gaffes on her staff for 'not supporting her properly'. It feels so familiar. Ms. Harris is too old to be a Millennial but that whiny entitlement exhibited by the Suxxits is still there.

Be that as it may, Harris is a qualified lawyer who was the DA for San Francisco county. Most of the past Presidents have also been lawyers, state governors, members of Congress or come from another professional background. Our last former actor to hold the office, Ronald Reagan, was incidentally a multi-term Governor of California, an executive branch position. What's M going to run on in terms of her 'experience'? Being biracial? Having appeared on a Nickelodeon spot in the 1990s about dish soap? Having once written to Hillary Clinton? Screwing her way into the British Royal family? If there's an Epstein connection, trust me, the Republicans will find it in about 30 seconds. She will not even be able to run for dogcatcher of Santa Barbara County.

If she thinks the British public's reception of her was frosty, OMG, she's not seen the full strength of MAGA Republicans loaded for bear. I want to see her get up on *one* Democratic candidate debate stage. There isn't enough popcorn in the world for that event.
Maneki Neko said…
@Raspberry Ruffle

Precisely! I did get confused at first when I saw PP, thinking it referred to Prince Philip. I always said Prince Philip or just Philip but found the initials confusing at first. Poontang is apt, though 😉
Sandie said…
The Duke of York has been banned from appearing alongside senior members of the Royal family at Monday's Order of the Garter ceremony following an eleventh-hour intervention by the Prince of Wales and the Duke of Cambridge.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/06/13/prince-andrew-banned-order-garter-public-appearance/#Echobox=1655102801
Observant One said…
If PP decides to run for a political office in the US, she won’t be in the race for long. Her skin isn’t nearly thick enough to protect her from the brutality of politics. The cultural pendulum is rapidly swinging away from woke ideology, so the carefully crafted victim persona and use of polarizing jibberish will not take her far, even in California. It also appears that all all of her powerful friends are blocking her, so she will not have the support needed to build a war chest. She attempted to test the water with the federal Paid Family Leave issue, but she was silenced in a nanosecond.
CatEyes said…
Here's a very long and complimentary article about the recent flurry of photo evidence on the Cambridge children supporting the theme of modernizing the BRF. While later in the article it specifically mentions the 6's as follows:

>Now, we saw the arrival — after a disastrous return to the U.K. — of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle at the personal invitation of the queen. Literally seconds after arriving in the U.S., they released a first-ever picture of Lilibeth Diana."

"Odd timing or personal PR wars? Well, a good source tells me that Meghan noticed the public relations to the royal children and quickly figured that this was a good ploy in trying to warm up her own less-than-hot personal rating. Meghan looked a decade younger in the picture and without much makeup. Maybe it was another nod to Kate, who is known for her pared-down makeup look."

"The biggest mistake with this picture is that no one requested it, and it came without warning. So, again, one could assume that they are being driven by a dire need to wire up their own public relations, which is at rock bottom. The picture did not make the usual front pages that would have naturally happened here in the U.K. if they had still been a part of the monarchy."


[The article goes on to praide various younger royals, including Lady Louise, the Tindall's girls Lena and Mia and of course the now famous photos of the Cambridge kids, espcially Prince Louis as follows.]

"Showing how popular Prince Louis has become overnight — and he is a social media sensation — are the requests for pictures of him to the palace. They have gone through the roof and will be seen on calendars and greeting cards and postcards sold in Buckingham Palace's shop and all over the world."

"If he were the child of a celebrity, he would now be the male Miley Cyrus, such is his popularity But truly that has all come from the access we have had shared and simply because he has a strong personality that shone like a beacon from the royal box. Louis is going to be huge."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/entertainment-celebrity/how-the-young-royals-have-been-scene-stealers-and-are-modernizing-the-monarchy-expert/ar-AAYocnD?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d76f7258755d4c7aaebbe63321505da9

I can hear the crockery being smashed in Montish*t*o. This article clearly demonstrates the 6's are are not only losing the PR war, the other royals are becoming huge stars. I wonder if we will now see more photos of the 'Invisikids' to help repair their parents flagging ratings?
Karla said…
Prince Harry takes a tumble at the polo: Duke falls off his horse in front of his celebrity pals actress Katharine McPhee and husband David Foster after making return to California.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10910511/Prince-Harry-takes-tumble-polo-Duke-Sussex-falls-horse.html
...
OMG! Unhappy is the horse that carries Harry's weight on its back.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10911549/Meghans-secret-engagement-Invictus-Games.html

Why is this only being published now? Obviously, judging by the number of photographs and the clothing, and the details about outfit and jewellery, it always was I intended for PR. But why only now?

Empowerment of women is going to be her way to push herself into the political scene. With racial issues she will sprout some word salad and pay a visit to get a gift wrapping of credibility for black support, but women's empowerment is her focus. (It is so very 1980/90s ... not that there aren't important women's issues, but the world is just not the same as it was back then and there are also men's issues.)
Sandie said…
Off topic: I am sure it is not the first time hapless has fallen off a horse, but I do not think either him or William have ever sustained an injury requiring medical attention, unlike their father and grandfather. (He fell off his horse during the polo match, and was photographed after the match happily chatting and easily hugging people. He seems so much happier and relaxed when she is not around.)
Sandie said…
It is being reported that William threatened to withdraw from the Order of the Garter ceremony if Andrew took part.
SwampWoman said…
CatEyes said:I can hear the crockery being smashed in Montish*t*o. This article clearly demonstrates the 6's are are not only losing the PR war, the other royals are becoming huge stars. I wonder if we will now see more photos of the 'Invisikids' to help repair their parents flagging ratings?

Once they have dived headfirst out of the plane without a parachute and are in free fall, slowing down the rate of descent to a soft landing is a little problematical.
Henrietta said…
Enbre shared:

@Henrietta
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) admitted giving MM the numbers.

Thanks! What happened after she revealed this? Were there repercussions from her colleagues or her constituents? Or was there a lot of sound and fury at first, but no real political consequences?

I think it was the last one. Her phone calls also didn't seem to do a bit of good.

Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie,@Hollie

Bizarre that the story about*'s visit to an entrepreneur course emerges now. The photographer is British and apparently took the photos of Archie's christening.
Was * keeping the story & pix in reserve to unleash them when something was happening with the BRF, like today with the order of the Garter service? Of course, this could be a mere coincidence...
lizzie said…
@Holly wrote

"If the political overlords want Markle in office, she will be installed. AOC is an example of how the system, both R and D, work in this country and have for a very long time."

But AOC wasn't elected president. And like her or hate her, most people say AOC worked hard to get elected to the House. The Democratic incumbent she beat in the primary hadn't faced an opponent since 2004 and was a rusty campaigner. And her Republican opponent in the general election didn't even actively campaign in the overwhelmingly Democratic district.

I think some things most of us can agree on about MM are that she's lazy, she lacks the ability to follow through, and she easily loses sight of the " big picture." Those put her far below AOC in terms of likely electoral success. And even if people were willing to hand the nuclear codes to someone who claimed to have been suicidal just a few years ago essentially because people at work were mean to her, I can't imagine anyone wanting MM elected to any office. Nobody could possibly know what she'd think or do next. So she'd not be a good puppet.
DesignDoctor said…
@lizzie wrote:

I can't imagine anyone wanting MM elected to any office. Nobody could possibly know what she'd think or do next. So she'd not be a good puppet.

Plus she does not take direction well, follow advice, and always thinks she knows best!
snarkyatherbest said…
Maneki. good observation. and she has pics released while a blond is hanging on her hubby and he’s all smiles. he’s playing at fun sports while she’s working hard 😉. well as hard as we can expect. twitter is in a flurry of activity how she looked at the brown skinned girl versus the white skinned my guess the girl she’s looking disinterested in is smarter than she is and she doesn’t like it 😉

lizzie. good points on AOC although many believe her svengali is her boyfriend/chief of staff. she just has learned her lines well. kinda like the white house. many think it’s the chief of staff and the head of domestic policy making all the decisions. problem is. the mrs likes to be whip smart, and isn’t good at listening to others. ha!

btw order of the garter. the cambridges and cornwallis laughing it up in the carriage was great. having fun and enjoying each other’s company. not sure i like the leak about william possibly boycotting about andrew. i like the sentiment but i don’t want him playing those pr games showing how much power he’s gaining. when you have the power and use it and don’t have to tell anyone you used it except for the interested parties, that’s real power. then again maybe it served its purpose for the yorks and the monecitos. don’t mess with william.

so we know andrew is entitield but i do wonder how much fergie is pushing him for their financial well-being and for her daughters. number 2s appear to listen way to much to their spouses /ex spouses
Sandie said…
@Maneki Neko
It is most odd. She had a professional photographer cross the Channel to cover the visit, and it is referred to as 'an engagement'. She has no connection to that organization she visited nor the area of work it does. And why wait so long to release the photographs?

If I remember correctly, the Theresa Longo Fans account said that she was organizing a slew of appearances outside the IG while she was in the Netherlands, and that it was the month for a major overhaul of their image and profile.

Will there be more? Is this part of some kind of PR makeover?

@Holly
I agree that politics has no clean hands, and all the power moves go on behind the scenes. But, as you say, it takes long hours of hard work, effectively managing a team of people, staying on top of the media, and being able to handle ruthless dirt digging and attacks (plus having to deliver on heaps of promises for favours - you can't pull a con and then run). I just cannot see her managing all that.
Ian's Girl said…
I was about to post what @Holly posted so perfectly. If the powers that be want * elected to an office, elected she will be, taking the path AOC did. She basically auditioned for the part, which was indeed an office thought to be perfectly safe by the incumbent. They wanted someone far more woke and extremist to get a foot in, and they needed the person to be minority, attractive and willing to be very vocal. She ticked all the boxes.

She initially presented as a working class Hispanic, when in fact she was reared in a very tony neighborhood and went by Sandy, which is about as WASPy as you can get, outside of Chip or Bunny. I believe she was tending bar prior to being elected, (I have no problem with that) although she does have a degree.

I think Kamala Harris was selected to tick the "black" female box, and also to bring the Silicon Valley bucks in. She is alleged to have swallowed her way to the top and preside over Willie Brown's orgies. She did at least have some experience as Attorney General of California, but was caught on tape laughing about how she put people in prison for doing what she was indulging in at the moment ( smoking weed) and also for keeping men in prison longer then need be so they could be used as free labor for the state... many were sent out to fight wildfires.

My point being, *'s history is no less salacious, and her political experience no less absent, than two very prominent political figures in America now.

I hope the Markling of literally everything the duo have been involved with, her inability to work with anyone, as well as her shallowness and complete lack of any kind of likeability has become obvious to most behind the scenes, because otherwise, I think she'd fit the bill.

I imagine she'd have already made inroads if she had any redeeming qualities, though. The Obamas have got her number, which probably put an immediate halt to any illusions she may have been cherishing.
lizzie said…
Re: MM running for office.

As @DesignDoctor and @snarkyatherbest point out, MM doesn't take direction well. While progressives/socialists recruited AOC once she started showing interest, she worked and took direction. So that's why I don't see an AOC route for MM. Consider she wouldn't even take the hint to wear a hat for her "away day" with HMTQ. And for all the whining she and Harry have done over security, she'd never follow their simple directions. (Don't close your car door. Don't zig-zag back and forth to different sides of the crowd, don't hug the Palace guards....) And she couldn't manage to learn the words to God Save the Queen so forget learning anything complicated.

The other reason I don't see an AOC route is that MM isn't willing to work her way up. She thinks she should start at the top. She certainly seemed to think that when she was in the UK. So @Holly I'm not at all sure she'd be willing to first run for a more minor office in a heavily democratic area as you suggest. That may be beneath her. Maybe she'd agree to take Diane Feinstein's Senate seat if Diane would just get out of the way and the governor would give it to her. But even that could be too low level for her. And while AOC may not have had much political experience, she had some working on Bernie Sanders' 2016 campaign. That's lots more experience than MM currently has.

But we'll see. I do agree politics is dirty so in that way she'd fit right in. But not in other ways IMO.
CatEyes said…
Here is some excerpts from an article detailing how the 6's Jubillee visit with Charles went:
Harry and Meghan’s secret meeting with Charles at Jubilee would have left Diana ‘heartbroken’, says royal expert

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex were disappointed by the lack of 'touchy-feely vibes' from the Prince of Wales as they attempted to reconcile with him at Clarence House, according to 'Brothers and Wives' author, Christopher Andersen.

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle held a 'perfunctory meeting' with Prince Charles over the Platinum Jubilee that failed to deliver the results they had been 'hoping for', according to a royal insider.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex reportedly visited the Prince of Wales's private residence, Clarence House, during their recent trip to the UK for the 70th anniversary of the Queen's reign, where they hoped to reach a 'rapprochement' with their British relatives after more than two years of familial conflict.

The blow comes shortly after it was revealed that Meghan and Harry also had a secret meeting with the Queen at Windsor Castle ahead of the Invictus Games in April, in an attempt to extend an 'olive branch' to the Royal Family and finally reach a permanent reconciliation. It's understood that the couple also met Charles during their short stay in Britain, before flying to The Hague in the Netherlands for their first continental European engagement since the pandemic began.

The 73-year-old was reportedly 'happy' to spend time with his youngest son and daughter-in-law, having not seen them in person together since 2019.

However, Andersen claims that their second meeting this summer wasn't so friendly. Despite the Sussexes' hopes that Prince Charles would be sympathetic to their circumstances, it appears that the eldest of the Queen's children had no intention of reciprocating their positive energy.

"I think the curtain has come down,"
Andersen said. "And one of the things I think is so sad about this is Diana, were she alive today, would be heartbroken by this."
CatEyes said…
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Girl with a Hat said…
@Snarkyatbest,

I don't remember where I read or heard this, but apparently, AOC had to have an interview to get chosen as a candidate for that riding.

She was chosen because she ticked a few boxes - working class, young, Latina, attractive, well connected and very far left views. She also takes direction well. Everything she represents is what the people who chose her want her to represent. She acts like she's a loose cannon but it's far from the case.

She is being funded by these people and they have high hopes for her because she follows the script.

You can extrapolate all of that info for the twat, and see what result you will get for yourselves.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://dlisted.com/2022/06/13/prince-harry-and-meghans-meeting-with-the-queen-was-just-15-minutes-long/#comments

this post seems to suggest that the two twats are on probation with the Queen. Whereas everyone else seems to think that the game is over for the traitors.
SwampWoman said…
Do royal experts use words like "touchy feely vibes"? That sounds pure California to me. Guess * is a royal expert now.

I suppose everybody is supposed to fall to the floor weeping because of Diana's supposed heartbreak. Let's see, I can fall to floor weeping, or go out for a fried shrimp dinner. What to do, what to do...just kidding, on my way to the seafood restaurant.
Rebecca said…
The Times reported that it was both Prince Charles and William who interceded at the last minute to convince the Queen that Andrew should not appear in public during the Order of the Garter ceremony. Andrew’s name was in the program, so clearly he was meant to participate. He has apparently been lobbying his mother hard during his daily visits with her at Windsor Castle. From the Times:

“The downplaying of Andrew’s role at Garter Day came after a report that he had asked the Queen to reinstate him as colonel of the Grenadier Guards, a role which he lost in January along with his HRH styling, as part of a plan charting his return to public life.

The Daily Telegraph quoted a source as saying: “The colonelcy of the Grenadier Guards was his most coveted title and he wants it back. Having remained a Counsellor of State, he also believes he should be included at royal and state events.

“Most importantly for him is his status as an HRH and ‘Prince of the Blood’, and he feels that should be reinstated and his position recognised and respected.”
___
Both Andrew and Harry have a strong sense of entitlement, and are arrogant and not terribly bright. They have become kryptonite to the Royal Family. I could easily see Harry make the same claim as Andrew, that as a Counsellor of State, a veteran and a “prince of the royal blood” he should be fully reinstated as a member of the family. Charles and William need to figure out how to neutralize them before it gets out of hand. Whatever it takes to remove them both as CoS, it should be done. Their HRH status should be permanently rescinded. And although I realize it is next to impossible to accomplish this, ideally neither Andrew nor Harry would be kept in the line of succession.
Teasmade said…
@SwampWoman: Let me join you virtually in your shrimp dinner, please. I too don't appreciate the attempt to tug at my heartstrings for Diana. To prevent "heartbreak" when your children are adults, try not raising rude little ars*h*l*s who abuse footmen, animals, girlfriends, and even casual girlfriends (if you know what I mean) with nary a consequence. It's called discipline.

Sorry, have a bit of a sinus headache and my sympathy tank is almost empty.
Mel said…
I can see that, for now, H and PA should be excluded from any from any Royal events.

If either party is in attendance, 90% of the media attention will be on how they looked, what they did, what they said, how everyone else looked at them, if they were snubbed in any way, instead of on the relevant parties.

Look how joyful today seemed for the garter service. Not much about PA, and even less about H. Just the way it should be
DesignDoctor said…
@Mel
Totally agree with you. Leave the attention seekers out of important events. The less they are seen, photographed, written about the better. Keep the focus where it should be on the event.
Maneki Neko said…
William and Kate choose their new home: Cambridges will 'move family into ''humble'' four-bedroom Adelaide Cottage in Windsor with no live-in staff' as the royal couple 'insist on nothing ''too showy'' or anything that needs renovating'
Meanwhile, the other two in Montecito need a 9 bedroom, 16 bathroom mansion... and staff, probably - noblesse oblige
lizzie said…
@Maneki Neko

TBH, I found the emphasis on W&K's lack of staff in the press blurb a little silly. Of course they have lots and lots of staff. Maybe they won't have live-in staff in Windsor, but I'm sure they'll have plenty of staff from maids to housekeepers to at least a part-time cook (I know Kate cooks but probably not all meals every day & what about travel and entertaining), gardeners, a nanny, someone to care for their pool at Anmer, somebody to wash their cars, chauffers, security, a personal hairdresser, and personal secretaries, etc.

While H&M's house in CA is ridiculously large IMO, they do have fewer homes than W&K...Montecito and I guess they still are renting Frog Cott.. W&K will have at least 4 homes with the Windsor move. (Anmer, KP, AC, and a 3-bedroom cottage in Scotland.) And we don't know how many bathrooms W&K have in their 10-bedroom Anmer Hall home. The number could sound pretty excessive, too.

I really do think it's apples and oranges given Will and Harry's different positions and different paths. I do remember though when George was born W&K made a big deal of not having a nanny. That didn't last long! And by the time Charlotte was born, in addition to the nanny they already had, they hired a night nurse as they did with Louis. But H&M claimed they weren't going to let "strangers" take care of their child. But later we learn in their victim drama they'd hired and fired several allegedly irresponsible nannies early on. I don't know whether all of the emphasis on having few staff comes from the two couples....I doubt it. But based on things we know they've said, it sure seems like both couples want the public to think they live very simply. That's silly IMO. And it's just not true. And I wouldn't expect it to be true for a "prince of the realm."
Elsbeth1847 said…
Grateful that the Palace learned from seeing the Arch meets Arch photographs, the ownership under their complete control such as Arch meeting the Queen that the whole idea of their casually bringing their own photographer to document Lilli meeting Lilli was kaboshed.

Thinking about all the ways that could be used (from Netflix to the autobiography) is a rabbit hole.
Maneki Neko said…
@lizzie

I agree on W&K's staff but I was just thinking of the house. Of course, they still need chauffeurs, gardeners, cooks, the nanny etc. I think they know that now is not the time to be too ostentatious and that the monarchy's popularity is at an all time low.
Henrietta said…
From SecondhandCoke on Reddit:

Here's what I heard: the Jubilee failure has had a giant impact on the Sussexes and their future.

Netflix has had a contract with the Sussexes for two years now and has gotten nothing for it. They are allegedly at the end of their rope with Harry and Meghan, and see no further use for their "partnership" with Netflix. However, Harry and Meghan are desperate for money, and the Netflix, Spotify, and Harry's book deals are their last hope. (Well, I've heard reports of one other, but this past weekend probably killed that one too). We've had headlines that there is no release date in sight for Harry's memoirs, Meghan promised Archetypes to debut in Summer, but it's mid-June and not a word has been said about it...that leaves Netflix.

Earlier today, BarkJacks published a post alluding to Harry and Meghan, their mental health, and canceled meetings. Well, assuming BarkJack is talking about the Sussexes, they don't specifically name them, my information is that at least one of those canceled meetings was between the Markles and Netflix. H&M are allegedly consumed with anxiety about their financial future and are scrambling for time, thinking that they can still pitch a project that will be of enough interest that Netflix will continue to work with them. The Sussexes are throwing every idea at the wall to see if it will stick, so that they can maybe return Netflix's calls or even meet with them face to face, and the idea that is their frontrunner is allegedly this history of polo/polo programming. And as to whether Netflix will go for it, all I can say is, "Would you watch that?"

Now, I can't say for sure whether or not the Netflix contract is going to be terminated, nor do I know what that would mean regarding the Markles having to return any fronted money to Netflix. But, contracts are pretty quid pro quo at their core, and the Netflix/Markle contract says some version of "Netflix will give you money if you generate content that makes Netflix money." The Markles haven't generated any content, much less made Netflix any money. What will ultimately happen if they don't fulfill their side of the contract seems pretty straightforward. It's been two years since the deal was officially made. Netflix is allegedly in financial trouble of their own. If you were Netflix, what would be your next move? Produce a polo show? Continue to work with a couple that costs more than they generate? Exactly.


I think they're going to get sued by either Netflix or Spotify. Probably Spotify first.


abbyh said…

New Post

Moderation still on

lizzie said…
@Maneki Neko,

Could be the reason. I wouldn't doubt that W&K wanted the "no renovations needed" blurb out there-- probably for two specific reasons. 1) To draw a contrast with the Frogmore Cottage debacle 2) to draw a contrast with all the earlier renovations they've done. They've only been married 11 years after all but lots of taxpayer money went to renovations at KP and some to Anmer. Some sources say $12 million for the KP costs came from taxpayers but this one says "only" $6.5 million from the Sovereign Grant.

https://people.com/royals/william-and-kates-home-refurbishment-cost-more-than-6-5-million/

To try to combat some of the bad press they got at the time of the KP reno, their spokesperson kept emphasizing how much Kate liked KP & liked the location so the renovations made sense as an investment because they would live there for many many years. Yet now they are moving out after living there mostly "full-time" since only the fall of 2017-- that's less than 5 years. I'm sure they'll still use KP when they need to stay in London. And stuff does happen. And what we think we'll like doesn't always work out that way. But when other people's money is spent ..that was the whole issue with spending taxpayer money to renovate Frogmore Cottage and then H&M left.
Hikari said…
Re. housing drama

William and Kate have been criticized for their extravagant homes, but what perhaps seemed excessive when they were newlyweds may seem less so now that William is poised to take over as Prince of Wales and both Cambridges are much more essential to the daily business of the monarchy. They aren't two kids playing house any longer but have moved into the on-deck circle as the future King and Queen. Of course, Charles and Camilla are ahead of them, but no one expects a very long reign from Charles III. At the time of the KP reno, the expenses were justified by saying that the property was being outfitted to be a suitable base of operations for the next Prince of Wales, with offices and official reception rooms in addition to the family residence. Charles has got Clarence House, Highgrove, Birkhall, Dumfries House and any number of other official residences. Anmer Hall was a wedding gift from the Queen, and all the rest of William's homes, including the newest prospective cottage in Windsor belong to the Crown. The current occupants are only stewards, not owners.

I don't really see why people are in a kerfluffle about the Cambridges choosing another house for their Windsor base. Those Crown properties would still be 'in the family' whether they are occupied or vacant. With the Queen based in Windsor, by her choice, for the rest of her life and reign, it makes sense for William to be more conveniently situated to her if he is to assume more responsibilities with his increased role. George will be starting at Eton in just a few years as well and having a home base nearby to spend weekends is I'm sure part of this decision. I get the feeling that this move is only as 'permanent' as the Queen's life, more or less. There has been talk of William moving his family into Windsor Castle once he becomes Prince of Wales. I guess that might depend on what plans Charles has for himself and Camilla once he is King. Charles has expressed his desire to retain Clarence House as his London residence and only commute to 'The Office' for work. This is something the Queen and Philip wanted for their young family, as CH had only just been renovated at expense, but they were denied by the courtiers, apparently. Charles has made it known that he's no 25-year-old girl to be bossed around and intends to get what his mother wanted back when he was 5 years old. We'll see. The Royals seem to be united in their universal loathing for Buck House and don't enjoy living there.

KP is William's London residence and Anmer is his country home. A Windsor cottage would be a second country home, or perhaps 'the weekend house'. Even if money is spent to freshen up the 'new' cottage, the Cambridge real estate is very modest compared to Charles's or the Queen's holdings. Royals have properties; that's what they do. I doubt highly that William will keep his family in a 4-bedroom cottage once he becomes PoW. They might visit it occasionally on a lark--the Royal version of 'glamping'. I see this move as temporary and prompted by circumstances that were not foreseen at the time KP was chosen as their primary town residence--ie, the Queen opting to quit London more or less for good. If the Queen were in BP now, there wouldn't be much incentive for William to need a Windsor base. I think this proposed move is to make the working relationship with her easier for everyone involved, and by moving to Windsor until she passes away, maybe the Cambridges can earn some brownie points for reducing their carbon footprint by commuting a lot less to London.
Pantsface said…
Well, it is something when Scooby Doo defends the "Duke" of York, there is some underlying shenanigans going on here, why would the Harkles mouthpiece defend the indefensible......

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10916333/Prince-Andrew-crushed-confused-Charles-William-banned-Garter-Day.html
Hikari said…
@Pantsface

Defending the indefensible indeed.

My immediate thought runs to a genuine fear within Camp Sussex about potential shady connections between the ersatz Duchess and Andrew’s former late great pal and procurer, J. Epstein. I feel in my waters and have ever since Harry’s wife joined the family so precipitately that she and Andrew had history. Maybe not intimate congress, Though I don’t think she would’ve had any qualms about making a play for him. I do feel however that they have acquaintances in common from attending some of the same “Soirées” And may be keeping each other’s secrets. I think * set her cap for Haz after meeting…er, “meeting” A lot of his circle before she’s ever been introduced to him. Possibly including Andrew; even more likely including Harry’s mates from Eton, Skippy Inskip, Guy Pelly and others. Harry and Skippy had their falling out pre-wedding when Skippy tried to dissuade his mate from going through with it on the grounds that his fiancée had been extremely friendly to all Haz’s pals during a yachting jolly which H wasn’t present for.

Harry: Royal chump.

The Tom Bower book is looming and maybe Medusa is panicking. Trying to appease Andrew through Scabies? Afraid he might talk, or has already done so? Those two certainly aren’t on amicable terms. Andrew’s visible animosity toward her from the start hints at more than him being jealous of her stealing spotlight from his daughters. Eugenie knows more than she lets on; She is alternately dissed And then treated as a confidante in Sharkle’s PR campaigns. There’s more than enough dirt to go around for the entire York family… Hopefully Beatrice is exempted. If we notice Sharkle never touches her or Edo.

One really lives in a cesspool if one needs to instruct one’s minion to make nice with Andrew of all people.
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