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We say good by and Godspeed to the Queen.
Recently there was (yet another) post somewhere out in the world about how they will soon divorce. And my first thought was: Haven't I heard this before? which moved quickly to: how many times have I heard this (through the years)? There were a number of questions raised which ... I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. One of the points which has been raised is that KC would somehow be shelling out beaucoup money to get her to go "away". That he has all this money stashed away and can pull it out at a moment's notice. But does he? He inherited a lot of "stuff" from his mother but ... isn't it a lot of tangible stuff like properties? and with that staff to maintain it and insurance. Inside said properties is art, antique furniture and other "old stuff" which may be valuable" but ... that kind of thing is subject to the whims and bank accounts of the rarified people who may be interested in it (which is not most of us in terms of bei
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHcuaV3qRlA
RIP.
I am at a loss.
God save the King.
And may God save the King.
I hope the republicans,i.e. anti royalists, don't start spouting their objections.
His legacy remains and his name goes down in history. Kisses Elizabeth, girl, woman, wife, mother and eternal queen in our hearts.
..Yes! And may God sabe/bless the King.🙏🙏🇬🇧
"Eternal rest grant unto Queen Elizabeth, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon her. May she rest in peace. Amen.
And may God save the King."
Amen.
RIP Your Majesty.
Matt 25:21
A very sad day for the world and an end of an era.
God save the King.
Praying for all those who loved her, and thank you @abbyh for your dedication.
God Save the King
That will happen in the coming weeks or months.
But he and Cate have already put the Duke and Duchess of Cornwall on their official websites. ❤️❤️❤️
https://instagram.com/dukeandduchessofcambridge?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Operation Union now commences.
What happens now the Queen has died? Operation Unicorn triggered
https://mol.im/a/6593747
Vale, Elizabeth The Great
You and your family provided my precious mother with reassurance and support during a childhood filled with the bombing raids of WWII. I am grateful for that and for your entire life of service. The world will not be the same without you.💗
`Operation Unicorn: what happens after the Queen’s death in Scotland?
The contingency plans for the Queen dying at Balmoral were leaked a while ago
The logistics of Operation London Bridge, the formal plans drawn up to deal with the death of the head of state, provided for the eventuality that she would die at Balmoral, which has long been one of her favourite places.
Operation Unicorn, the codename for the plans in Scotland, leaked some time ago and indicated it is likely her coffin will temporarily rest at the Palace of Holyroodhouse, having been taken there by road two days after her death.
Plans are also thought to include a ceremonial procession along the Royal Mile in Edinburgh to St Giles’ Cathedral, where a service is expected to be attended by the royal family before a 24-hour period of lying at rest, which would be open to the public.
The coffin is likely to be flown back to London, where it will be taken to Buckingham Palace before the big ceremonial procession in the capital planned for “D+5” (D-day plus five days) of the 10-day funeral plans, which will involve the Queen lying in state.’
Presumably she’ll lie in State in Westminster Hall.
George VI was brought back to London by train - I recall people lined the route wherever they could but it's a long way from Scotland.
God Save the King.
Seems fitting.
A couple of Unknown/Anonymous - please get your profile up on that devise so everyone can benefit.
The idea: I'll think about it. Don't know. Don't think this is the right time to have that conversation about it yet though.
Thanks.
It's amazing how She changed but yet stayed the same.
She will definitely be missed. We simply have to look at our coins, stamps and bills to see Her face and it will be with us for a long time to come.
they didn't wait for Harry to arrive at Balmoral in order to announce.
from the photo, you can tell he's very upset. He probably regrets not seeing Her this summer at Balmoral. He has to live with that for the rest of his life, along with what he did to Philip.
I am horrified at myself for being glad that Harry allegedly hadn't yet arrived when the Queen went to be with Phillip.
Seems fitting.
I'm not horrified! I felt the same way. Either we're both bad, bad people, or we're horrified about the public way the Toxic Two publicly dismissed her invitation to Balmoral.
His grandmother is dead. I really hope for his sake and that of his children, he puts a muzzles on himself and * and Scoobie Do.
Live with it indeed.
Comment have been turned off - seriously.
Her strength and sense of duty is an example for us all.
She was faithful to her God, her country and her family.
yeah i’m mean spirited. glad harry missed it . he needs a jolt to get him out of what ever he is in. had a relative who pulled crap. was glad when parents died she was smart enough not to show her face. could not imagine grieving with someone who was so disrepectful of my parents. (although she has asked what was left for her). no doubt someone will insert herself in all of this. i think it was Ian’s Girl in the last thread that she pulls a Uvalde photoshop op. she can try it but i can see more than a few brits blocking the shot, booing her or telling her to go home. (maybe she and harry do need protection 😉). maybe she is smart enough to have archie develop strep and someone will have to fly home.
God Bless the Queen
Saddled-up ready
for her final ride
Long lost corgi’s
flanked by her side
Her darling Philip
eternal guide
Saddened, bereft
our beloved Queen has died
A constant, mainstay
the Nation’s Pride
God Save the King
Jerome Ogden
53 minutes ago
I can remember watching Elizabeth's coronation in 1953 through grainy delayed videos on a 12" bw TV screen as a snot-nosed second grader.
Seven decades later, it is difficult to define the sense of personal loss I feel for someone I never met and rarely thought about. But it definitely exists, as if some hidden strut in the grand architecture both of global stability and my own life has disappeared, creating a range of emotions, from her departure's reminder of human mortality, including my own, to a nebulous anxiety that her passing may somehow be an omen, a warning, or at least a symbol, that the world will be a less orderly, structured and livable place without her in it.
She was a class act and I will miss her for all those reasons.
I agree with all comments about Harry not being with Her Majesty before her death. I hope the media keeps the Harkles and Scobie out of all headlines throughout the next 10 days.
My condolences to all Nutties who live within the realm of the UK. God save the King.
I honestly do not want to see his face again any time soon. I wonder what King Charles will do with him now. If William becomes the next PoW he has control of the Duchy of Lancaster.
Beautiful and touching words, Magatha. I’ve missed you.
I agree with all comments about Harry not being with Her Majesty before her death. I hope the media keeps the Harkles and Scobie out of all headlines throughout the next 10 days.
My condolences to all Nutties who live within the realm of the UK. God save the King.
Copy that.
Thank you to all overseas Nutties who have sent us, Elizabeth's people, their condolences. It's much appreciated.
There's no way that the pain of death can be softened and it doesn't seem to make much difference whether it was a sudden shock, as it was with George VI, or long expected as a matter of inevitability as it has been here. It's always horrible.
It'll be strange to start singing `God Save the King' once more, as it was when we first started singing `God Save the Queen'.
I shall go into the town tomorrow to hear our Town Crier crying the doleful news.
Thank you for your poem.Yes, she was 'a constant, a mainstay', steadfast, ensuring stability. It's the end of an era.
God Save the King
My condolences to all Nutties who live within the realm of the UK.
Thank you for thinking of us.
Most of the comments are scathing. This, I hope, is when H's alleged horrible words to Gan-gan come back to haunt him : Suck it up, Buttercup.
Is he `channelling' Edward VII & George V, in an attempt to get himself reinstated in the RF?
You moved me to tears.
My deepest condolences to all Nutties, especially to those for which she was your Queen. My thoughts and prayers are with you in your grief.
RIP Dear Elizabeth. You were an exemplary monarch and human being. May you have eternal rest, peace, and joy.
I feel saddened for the deserving royals and her friends who sincerely grieve their loss. Her legacy will live on till time standstill on earth, that I am sure of. I hope one day to meet her and other saints in Heaven untill then, I pray for King Charles and all of the monarchy that keeps her guidancee close to them.
God save the King!
Going on Operation Unicorn, day 1 will be tomorrow, so the funeral is more likely to take place on the 19th September. If the Queen had died earlier in the day, then perhaps today could’ve been counted as day 1, but they need time to organise a State Funeral. 😟
How should we approach it?
Off the top of my head, I think Harry had his crybaby face on because:]
1. He was pissed off that they didn't wait for his momentous self to arrive before the announcemnt.
2. He was told in no uncertain terms that his twunt was to stay behind in London or he too would be barred from the gates. Ditto for trying to sneak in any camera crews to gawp at his grandmother's body. Would they do that? Yes, I think they have sunk that low.
3. Super super pissed that William now gets his father's ducal title and control of all the Duchy lands and monies . . with his father's other title to follow soon. First Charles's coronation and then Wm's investiture as PoW. Given Charles's age and the fact that this has been anticipated for some time and he's already been doing much of the job behind the scenes, how soon do we think his coronation will be? Probably not before New Year, but they've got to have those plans more or less ready to go. I am sure in accordance with his slimmed-down philosophy, King Charles III will opt for a simpler and less lavish ceremony than his mother had.
4. Coming in a distant fourth . . today's events means that he was unable to speak at Well Child awards and there goes that footage for the Netflix special. He ain't gonna be getting any photo ops at Balmoral. Wonder how long he took to decide to go to Scotland vs. showing up at the awards show instead. It would have been Deal/Lion King all over again. At least he made the right choice this time but it's not like anybody really wants him there. To be honest, he's so far gone I don't think he gives a toss about Granny. What he WILL give a toss about is how this affects his bank account.
It remains to be seen if the Twunts hang around London in the hopes of scoring photo PR or if they cringe back to Montesh*tshow on their private plane. I hope the RF has issued him a genteel but unmistakable invitation to pay his private respects and GTFU in the morning. I do not want to see either of the Twunts at the service for her Majesty, Charles's coronation or anywhere in the UK ever again. I really hope this development means they are finished. If he still plans to release that snotty screed of his that will tear into the memory of his sainted grandmother and take a dump all over the new King and Queen . . I would seriously expect some royalist to put out a hit on him.
The last bit of royal pixie dust has blown away for Harry. They are nothing but jackals picking over a carcass now. I do think they were not dealt with more forcefully these last two years because the Queen wished to be humane and compassionate to a grandson, even if officially she had to take some things away.
The new Duke of Cornwall isn't going to stand for these shenanigans continuing. Let us hope he can shore up his father to the same mind. Never again received at any Royal property or at court for any occasion and not a red farthing more of any Royal monetary support. Hawwy can take his thirty pieces of silver from Netflix and his book publisher and p*ss right off. Let him wind up in a cardboard box on Skid Row for all I care. He deserves no better.
In a youth obsessed world that hides from the reality of aging and death; that treats its elders like refuse taking up space, the Queen's passing feels all the more poignant and important to celebrate. I am so glad she got the amazing send off on the balcony where her people told her good bye for the last time. You could see how much it meant to her in her eyes. And how she was game for the Paddington Bear skit when she knew she was dying, makes it all the more touching. Queen Elizabeth II was much more than a global icon; she was The Matriarch. Nobody will be able to wear her crown.
This cartoon I saw from SaintMeghanMarkle made me cry more than once:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/x98b6t/giving_thanks_for_your_service_farewell_maam/
Good question.
https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1567960394018193410
Full moon follows rainbow over Buck House today.
https://twitter.com/romillyweeks
Empire State Building in purple to honor the queen
https://twitter.com/EmpireStateBldg/status/1567966413188628480?cxt=HHwWgIDQ3abJxMIrAAAA
Apologies to Nutties for bringing up the horrible duo at this sad time, but don't know if you saw the photo of 6 arriving at Balmoral. He looks very unhappy, but unlike the 'real royals,' who arrived in a car driven by Prince William, 6 looks as though he's accompanied by 2 very serious looking minders. They look like they might be courtiers charged with keeping him away from the 'real royals.' I may be wrong, but that was my first thought.
https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-arrives-scotland-following-death-grandmother-queen-elizabeth/
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Hikari Perfect!👏
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Prince William called Camille "Queen consort"on his Instagram.
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As for Harry...
The choice was his. He didn't visit her when he was in London. He chose to do PR in Germany, even though he was aware of his grandmother's worrying health.
Ten days of mourning. Then kneecap ‘em.
H looked upset and weary, certainly form the four reasons you mentioned. I do think deep down he really loved his grandmother and her death has now hit him. He was also too late to say his goodbyes. We can be cynical but maybe he now realises how foolish his - and TBW's - behaviour has been. I don't know what sort of welcome he got when he arrived but a death in the family is not the time to start rows and recriminations.
It remains to be seen if the Twunts hang around London in the hopes of scoring photo PR
Now he'll have to say until the funeral, I'd imagine. As long as * leaves these shores and returns to California asap, that's fine. Surely the children would miss her if she stayed another 10 days?? She's so maternal she probably can't stay away from them for too long (sarc). I hope she doesn't attend the funeral but I fear she has to be invited as H's wife. The sight of her in black pretending to be sad would be stomach churning. Maybe she can just send a wreath from Montecito with one of her support messages (eye roll).
I would LOVE to know what went on behind the scenes when the decisions were made regarding who would fly on the Royal jet, whether * would be allowed to go and if it was appropriate for H to go at all.
I am deeply saddened by the loss of HMTQ ERII, an extraordinary global leader and role model, but I am afraid that the duo will gain some ground, due to Charles’ grief. I hope that Anne, Zara, Peter and Mike will form a wall to protect King Charles III and the newly minted Duke and Duchess of Cornwall/future Prince and Princess of Wales.
@Hikari: Agree with everything. I also believe someone told Hairy to not bring the Mrs. because she's so divisive, and this was a solemn family gathering.
I hope only Mr. Dum Dum gets to be at the funeral, and somewhere squeezed into the middle of the 10th row.
https://twitter.com/american_rf_fan/status/1567978190249000961?s=21&t=fVMX8HeoGJZDSpZWTe-27Q
yep. he maybe wanted to rush up there but they were not gonna wait on build for anything. like beatrice and eugenie and zara. he may be beloved but he is not part of the core.
https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-arrives-scotland-following-death-grandmother-queen-elizabeth/
I hate mentioning * at this sad time. Apologies if I posted it earlier.
Thank you Magatha for putting to words what we all feel. Like Hikari, I am sickened by the upcoming antics of an avaricious grandson and his duplicitous partner in crime. "Twunt" is a perfect description.
God bless the Queen! I hope she is with Prince Philip and her loved ones.
It appears that H made the decision to go to Balmoral on his own, as no other member of that generation (grandchild) appear to be in route to Balmoral.
Too little, very late.
I too, am hopeful that * packs her bags to return to the states to be with her children at this time. I cannot see H doing that - we will probably see a revisit of Peter Phillips acting as a buffer for the brothers, and hopefully the Tindalls will act as the secondary defensive line for Wills and Catherine.
Thank you for all the heartfelt posts and opines. It helps.
May God bless us all as we grieve this incredible woman.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/08/harry-and-meghans-children-become-prince-archie-and-princess-lilibet#bsht=CgRmYnNtEgYIAxAAGA0
And thank you abbyh, for keeping up this wonderful place. No one else gets why I'm so upset, but I know all of you mourn with me, and I'm so grateful!
I've gotten over being upset with Lady C, too. While I understand it broke with protocol on a very solemn occasion, but I honestly think she decided she wasn't going to wait on the sullen ginger like everyone else was doing. He does not deserve that, and I'm glad I heard it from Lady C.
Can you imagine how happy she is now? Despite our grief, it's good to know she is at peace, resting in eternal joy, at Phillip's side, and seeing beloved family again.
Do you suppose * is seething over Sophie's presence? I had mentioned before that I was afraid Catherine elected to remain home so they could keep Nutmeg from being there, but I had forgotten Sophie was there. Markle must have shat bricks when she saw the Countess.
And the more I think about it, the more I think Hazbeen chose to go on his own. No other grands there but William, as a direct heir. I wonder if he has the decency to comfort his father, who must be absolutely reeling right now.
My condolences to her subjects, and of of course, her family. She was your sovereign, but also a leader of all things good in his world: love of country, family, fellow humans, dignity, duty, kindness, and propriety. She will be missed by all....who knew her and knew of her, as well.
God Save The King.
First....AbbyH...thank you! Thanks for running this blog in such a forthright fashion. Appreciate all of your efforts. Especially what you do to keep it civil. Carry on.
Harry....decided to go on his own. Gotta prove that he's still royal. Very plausible.
Harry should not rate above any of the other grandchildren, and none of them were there. He's just one of eight grandchildren. Nothing special. So him deciding to go on his own could make sense.
Or...I heard that the PW flight was delayed an hour leaving for an unknown reason.
Lately, the Harkles have made it a point to be late to events. Maybe PW flight waited as long as they could, and then left without H?
The delay being H wouldn't go without Mm, and she was not welcome. Or the delay being H was flexing. And PW said screw it, not waiting.
Àlso think that the Institution made flight arrangements for the real royals. H was probably told that as a private person it was up to him to figure it out.
Travalyst was probably glued to CNN and not answering the phone.
I also heard that Mm demanded of PC today(!) that her children be named prince/princess today. PC said NO. Conversation didn't go over well. As in lead balloon.
Could be why flight delay? H wanted that sorted first?
Also heard that after that conversation, Mm decided to leave for states asap. Supposedly tonight.
Will be interesting to see how it all works out.
Also interesting that the Harkle spokesperson said they would both be going. 20 minutes later they retracted. Looked like idiots. Bet the palace shut that down right fast.
She was ever faithful, to her country, her people, and her duty....which she didn't choose for herself, I might add. She was a shining example of all that is good with human beings, her love of her country, her subjects, her family, kindness, loyalty, duty, friendships and fidelity, honor, leadership, and love. We might never see her like again.
God Save The King.
GABikerGirl said…
H$M just couldn't wait announce their kids are prince and princess now.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/08/harry-and-meghans-children-become-prince-archie-and-princess-lilibet#bsht=CgRmYnNtEgYIAxAAGA0
@GABikerGirl: I am hoping that in his desire to slim down the monarchy, he tells Meghan and her minion Harry that because they are non-working royals living in the United States, they will be perfect examples for the British people of the slimmed-down monarchy. He should also note that in the Oprah interview, Meghan said having a royal title wasn’t important to her, so as the new King, Charles is happy to make sure her children are not burdened with royal titles, but that he loves them just as much as all his grandchildren.
I wonder if she also asked the Queen’s estate to cut her a check for Harry’s inheritance.
Re The Coronation
You said, I am sure in accordance with his slimmed-down philosophy, King Charles III will opt for a simpler and less lavish ceremony than his mother had.
I’m not so sure about a simpler and less lavish ceremony. It’s an extremely symbolic State religious ceremony. Our State opening of Parliament hasn’t changed much over the centuries. I think King Charles’ Coronation will be a very lavish but poignant occasion, and so it should be. 🤗
I wonder if Charles can now alter the rules about all grandchildren of the monarch automatically being becoming Princes/Princesses? Make it only by Letters Patent and conditional upon good conduct, as well as demonstrating conclusively that the children do exist and they are both the fruit of their father's loins and were born of the body of his wife. That'd show them.
It sounds as if there may have been a Fight at Frogmore if she's clearing off to the States this quickly.
BTW It was probably only the angle of the photo that suggested that his beard is now like those of his illustrious forebears, Edwd.VII & Geo.V.
https://uk.yahoo.com/style/queen-she-died-revealed-201546795.html
They clearly envisage a deathbed scene like that of Victoria (died in the Kaiser's arms) or Edward VII (Both Queen Alexandra & Mrs Keppel, his mistress,) were at his bedside. Mrs K was of course Queen Camilla's gt.gt.grand mother.
A very strong resemblance to his father, I think.
The Queen died at 14.37, only Charles and Anne was there. The others couldn’t get there in time. Mole arrived both after her death and after the announcement of her death. Mole wasn’t on the flight with the other senior royals, nor did King Charles wait for him before making the official announcement…Mole’s out, frozen out.
H$M just couldn't wait announce their kids are prince and princess now.
The link didn't work, so I couldn't read the article but to be fair, this has been mentioned everywhere in the press, in the same way as they announced that William would become Duke of Cornwall, Prince of Wales etc. That said, I thought they said they didn't want titles for their children...
If you see on social media that the duo have already updated their Wikipedia pages to name their children prince and princess, it is fake news. I have checked. His Wikipedia page has not been edited since 9 August. Hers was last edited 1 September. The children's pages have been updated, but this is what is said about any possible change in title:
"After the death of Queen Elizabeth II and the accession of King Charles III, as grandchildren of the monarch, Archie Mountbatten-Windsor and his sister Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor are now qualified to become British prince and princess with the style of His/Her Royal Highness"
He was the last to arrive and the first to leave. ☹️
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/what-happens-every-day-now-24970554
One change reported already - instead of National Mourning extending just 1 day after the funeral, it'll be a week - the King's decision.
No indication of timings - the proclamation at St James' Palace tomorrow will be televised - Heralds in tabards, just like Tenniel's drawing of the White Rabbit at
https://www.pinterest.jp/pin/187180928238605616/.
For Nutties not familiar with our strange ways: The gun carriage pulled by ratings goes back to 1901. The story is that Victoria's coffin was unloaded from the train at Windsor Station and put on a gun carriage drawn by horses. Unfortunately the station's at the bottom of the hill, by the river, with a hill up to the Castle. The horses objected to this and were eventually unhitched and the traces picked up by a squad of ratings (low-ranking sailors) and hauled up to the Castle by them. Like everyone standing for the Hallelujah Chorus because the King stood up when he heard it, it became an instant tradition. That's how they tell it in Windsor.
( A personal note - we're due to go to a 60th anniversary party in East Anglia next Saturday - it's expected to be a big bash, already postponed twice thanks to Covid. No idea what will be decided - will it be postponed yet again? How will it fit with the funeral? Might it be a Wake? What should I wear?)
I wish the various sources of news would get their stories straight.
By Jennifer Smith, Chief Reporter For Dailymail.Com
10:38 BST 09 Sep 2022 , updated 11:36 BST 09 Sep 2022
* At 2pm, a spokesman for Harry and Meghan said they'd fly together to Balmoral to be with the Queen
* The couple were in the UK to attend the WellChild Awards Ceremony and had been staying at Windsor
* They were not scheduled to visit the Queen during their trip until yesterday's announcements
* At 3.12pm, Kate was photographed driving to collect her children from school
* By then, Prince William was already on his way to Balmoral on an RAF plane with other senior royals
* At 4.44pm, Omid Scobie, a journalist and friend of Meghan, then tweeted that 'like Kate', Meghan would stay in Windsor and not fly to Scotland after all
* Harry's commercially rented jet didn't take off from Luton Airport until 5.35pm - 90 minutes after William and other senior royals touched down at Aberdeen Airport
* In the end, he landed at 6.46pm - around 15 minutes after the Queen's death was announced
* Harry departed Aberdeen this morning at around 9am, barely 13 hours after he arrived
* King Charles III will return to London today with Camilla, the Queen Consort
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11196333/Why-did-Meghan-Markles-plan-join-Prince-Harry-Balmoral-change.html
Someone tweeted a post from Edo. Lovely. Confirms that they did spend time with the Queen at Balmoral this summer, so she got to meet their baby girl.
Today is Day One, the first part of Accession is today with the second part with King Charles is tomorrow. That means Day 10 will be the 19th September. However, the funeral could be later still.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6593747/What-happens-Queen-died-Operation-Unicorn-triggered.html
https://twitter.com/ChristinsQueens/status/1568227342513750018?s=20&t=Tn4QoK8oYqJBmQCF231ogQ
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I am very happy for them. Many waters have passed and now he is King with Camille by his side.
I just hope he keeps his word of a lean monarchy and that Archie and Lilibeth don't become prince and princess. Yes, I want to see the strength of King Charles III.
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God save/bless the King ❤️
It’s not an automatic given King Charles will bestow Prince and Princess to Mole’s children and the press should accurately report that. At the time of Archie’s birth, both Maggot and Mole said they didn’t want their children to have titles.🙄
The fact Mole wasn’t on the same flight with other senior royals is rather telling as to where he now stands within the royal family. I think he’s very much on the peripherals of the royal court. 🥴
It’s not unprecedented at all for a new Monarch to address the nation, (it’s part of protocol). His walk about is just that! 🥴
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Today, he greeted the public in gratitude for the tributes to his mother. As they did on Diana's death.
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King Charles III will address the nation and the Commonwealth in a message paying tribute to #TheQueen that will be broadcast at 6pm this evening
https://twitter.com/RoyaNikkhah/status/1568224415409754120?s=20&t=qw3w8FqxzAgpQ-rDQmn0-g
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King Charles III will be proclaimed the new King at St James’s Palace at 10am tomorrow morning
having lost both parents and both in-laws kinda glad not everyone was there alone the room with her. my guess is she wouldn’t want all the fuss. my mom was in her last hours and wouldn’t let go as my brother was in the room. i told him to leave and she literally died minutes later. she didn’t want to do that in front of him. besides the cambridges and the wessexes (edinburghs?) were at Balmoral last month when proper visits/good byes could be said (if the rumors of bone cancer are to be believed). that’s what would have counted
so harry is frozen out and left on a flight into heathrow (had to find his own way back?). KC (king charles not the sunshine band 😉) and queen consort (good move for now. don’t rock the boat. smart of KC) headed to london and couldn’t/wouldn’t /didn’t give him a lift? very telling. hmmm will they stay or head back to the US for now. sounds like the service at holyrood was already announced as senior royals only. frozen out again.
also interesting move having cameras in the ascension council meeting. it will be curious if KC does more one on one interviews, something his mom wouldn’t do. a slimmed down more assessable monarchy? with britain facing a tough winter with energy costs it probably is a good move to be approachable, low key and institute energy effluent moves in the castles so as to give the appearance of being in it all together.
curious when/if we will see the cornwall cambridge kids. probably at the windsor tributes but george may be close to the age of appearing at one of the prayer services. but maybe not. hard to grieve in public but it’s a task he will have to learn
I believe in signs. The rainbow over Buckingham Palace was the best sight of all. I believe Her Majesty sent that as a message of love, and hope for all who remain.
@Fifi: Yes, I think the full rainbow was a sign to indicate HMTQ was happy to be free of this mortal world and had been happily reunited with Philip, her parents, and Margaret in the next life.
I’m from Minneapolis and I remember on the day the musician Prince died, there was a light rain and a rainbow also appeared in the sky at his Paisley Park compound in the Minneapolis suburb of Chanhassen.
will be very curious where the duo show up in the next 10 days. i am sure he will wiggle his way into the funeral. she might but she may lay low and let him take the boos knowing they will all be seated in the “grandkids” section. then again the wife may want her Kate funeral moment and give us an iconic look of a ball gown at Westminster 😉.
Just saw video of their walkabout. My heart breaks for Camilla. She looks devastated.
Wish I could just give her a big hug.
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They could be offered if and when he so desires/gets around to it ...
Agree that 5 was frozen out very visually. That twitter comment - then emperor has no clothes. I suspect similar will show up again and again as all was likely set up as contingencies months ago (like that of the Jubilee seating).
Sad in that he's begun really reaping all his own weeds of destruction. His extended family just got the big promotion and now will be way too busy for really dealing with him, his feeling and what ever else is going on with him. But he has her. And his life far away from the new centers of power and/or the men in gray suits. Not sure that is the consolation he really needs or how he wants it.
William is the direct heir to the throne after (now King )Charles, Mole is not, he’s the same as Andrew, Anne and Edward was after Charles who was the direct heir after the Queen .
The Queen issued a letters patent to enable William children, her Great grand children to have both Prince and Princess titles and be styled HRH. She didn’t do it for Mole’s children. Charles has the power of the new Monarch to give his remaining grand children titles, but it remains to be seen if he does. 🤗
I now wonder what Maggot and Mole will do. Stay and do exactly what? Go back to America where they now belong. 😕
It’s not an automatic given King Charles will bestow Prince and Princess to Mole’s children and the press should accurately report that. At the time of Archie’s birth, both Maggot and Mole said they didn’t want their children to have titles.🙄
Remember also that * said during the Oprah interview that the only reason she cared about Fauxrchie having a title was that she was told that no title means no security. *eyeroll* Well, now that the Dollars can obstensibly afford private security for their "family," that means she must care about titles even less . . . right?
If stories come out after this that the evil, racist BRF are discriminating against her biracial children again, I hope someone uploads bootleg clips of the interview.
@snarkyatherbest
uphold them as the virtue of non working royals. (without titles) and heed the couples public wishes no titles for the kids.
Non-working royals can be awesome! The Tindalls, to take one case, are immensely popular. It wouldn't just be good sense but also an excellent PR move for King Charles to hint that he wants his second set of grandchildren to highlight this equally great side of the royal family.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11197165/Mob-pelt-eggs-ketchup-fish-chip-shop-anti-monarchist-owner-celebrating-Queens-death.html
Clearly someone who believes every conspiracy theory going. I really liked this bit `Ms Pickett's membership to the National Federation of Fish Friers has also been revoked.'
Three cheers for the good people of the Muir of Ord!
He is now the son of the King....and is so close and yet has very obviously never been further away.
It is true as abbyh said, everyone else has been promoted, and yet the difference between everyone and the now Fives is blatently apparent.
Karma is a....
This point in history feels very odd to me personally, although I'm not British and only lived a few years in a Commonwealth country. It's so clichéd to keep calling this the end of an era . . . and yet that's what it is, isn't it?
When I was wondering whether my late grandmother, who was half-Spanish (but full Spanish in her heart), felt as strange as I do now when King Felipe took the throne, I realize she couldn't have. Firstly, because King Juan Carlos was crowned when she was already in her 40s; and secondly, because he abdicated rather than passed away. This is the first time multiple generations all over the world have had to say goodbye to someone who has been there our whole lives.
When it is time for all the other current crowned heads of Europe go, everyone will remember this moment and say that Queen Elizabeth was the leader of the transition from the old era into the new.
( A personal note - we're due to go to a 60th anniversary party in East Anglia next Saturday - it's expected to be a big bash, already postponed twice thanks to Covid. No idea what will be decided - will it be postponed yet again? How will it fit with the funeral? Might it be a Wake? What should I wear?)
@WBBM: A suggestion. Wear whatever you were planning to wear to the party, but as a gentle nod to Elizabeth III and Charles III, see if you can find two small photo buttons, one with a photo of the Queen, and one with a photo of Charles and wear them pinned next to each other to the party. It would be a small way to honor both royals. It might also be a nice conversation starter.
“( A personal note - we're due to go to a 60th anniversary party in East Anglia next Saturday - it's expected to be a big bash, already postponed twice thanks to Covid. No idea what will be decided - will it be postponed yet again? How will it fit with the funeral? Might it be a Wake? What should I wear?)” - end quote -
If the 60th anniversary party goes ahead, I hope the attendees celebrate QEII’s vibrant life rather than morosely mourn her death, thus in my dreams I would wish you to honor her by wearing
- strands of pearls
- a brightly colored dress so you can be seen from a distance
- a lovely brooch, the bigger the better
- a serene smile
In any case, please send my good wishes to the 60th anniversary couple from USA’s west coast.
Agree that 5 was frozen out very visually.
It was a powerful way of saying something without saying anything. Even my mother (whom I mention a lot because she represents "normies" -- i.e., those who aren't really Royal watchers) commented on the striking visual of Prince William driving the car transporting him, Prince Andrew, Prince Edward and Sophie. This is just the beginning of what the future will "look" like.
There's little doubt about how the Meghans and the Harrys will handle this moment but the Queen's legacy will only grow with time and the UK will rally around King Charles, if for no other reason than sympathy for him losing his mother and having to endure his son's horrible rebellion. What mudslingers don't realize is the support the engender in their opponent by attacking them and casting them as victims. In time Harry will look back and at this chapter of his life and realize how badly he bungled it. He is going to be one lonely and bitter man in exile from his homeland. That will be his legacy.
Charles acknowledges Harry and Meghan as they build their lives overseas.
Nothing about Edward as DoE.
Nice address. I cannot image how he held it together.
@Fifi and @Happy Days totally agree with your comments about those remarkable rainbows. So very fitting and moving.
Just watched King Charles’ speech. He will be a great King. Bravo, Charles! God Save the King.
yikes. 5. liked 6 better (as in 666?).
There was never a better time for Cambridge Baby #4! ;-)
Or should I say Cornwall Baby #4? Genuine question! So much has changed!
William has been bestowed the title of the Prince of Wales. I don’t know if he’ll have a public investiture ceremony like Charles had. 🥴
Do you have a link?
If Prince William doesn't have an investiture ceremony that will be totally in keeping with King Charles's plan "to slim down the monarchy." And not that my opinion on this matters, but I find it only a little bit sad. I don't think William particularly wants one. And I was just thinking that the faster he got to be Prince of Wales, the better! (It will be interesting to see how many people will still insist on calling Catherine by her maiden name when she is finally Princess of Wales.)
There's also the incidental benefit that the Dollars will have one less piece of "evidence" that the BRF is out to get them.
No mention of making their kids Prince and Princess, which he easily could have done.
I think Harry and his wife have already dug themselves into a hole with the royal family they will never escape from, and it will only get deeper with no way out once his book is published. It was probably heavily edited by his wife, which means it will likely be quite caustic. It is probably too late for Harry to change his mind about publishing the book and doing a massive hitjob on his father’s wife.
Meghan probably spent the advance long ago.
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William and Kate arrive in Boston, USA, in December, as Prince and Princess of Wales. as per King Charles III.
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Happy, happy
dang. missed KCs speech. glad about PofW. layers in well with the duchy of cornwall statement on whose running that show. perhaps KC knows his legacy will be William
Lady C said it was The BBC and The Guardian newspaper that announced the Queen’s death early and thus broke press protocol. I had the BBC on I don’t recall any early announcement, I can’t comment on the Guardian because I don’t read it. 🥴
Personally I think it’s subjective what one feels about Lady C’s early announcement. 😕
Lady C excuses herself because she said she’s not press so she didn’t break protocol, fair enough. However, the moot point is that no official announcement had been made by BP at that particular point in time, and that for me is why I thought she was wrong to do what she did. She does however know many well connected individuals, and so I firmly believe they gave her the green light to say what she did. 🥴
Lady C absolutely does not deserve abuse, she seems pretty resilient and thank goodness for that. 🫤
Unfortunately, 'Among the younger royals, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's infant children will become Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet.' (DM). If so, TBW will be insufferable (more than usual) and will insist on security for the sprogs. I thought the titles were not automatic.
I think Theresa May gave a lovely tribute speech about the Queen in Parliament.
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Sorry to not have copied the link, but I saw a news report that the other grandchildren (Peter, Zara, Beatrice, Eugenie) have gone to Balmoral to say private goodbyes to their granny. Has anyone else come across anything about this?
As in, build your lives overseas and damn well stay there?
I surely hope so.
I though Charles' speech was magnificent. I kind of held my breath when he brought up Camilla, thinking it was perhaps a bit soon with everyone still so raw from Her Majesty's death. But in the context of his statements about W&H, it seemed okay.
God save the King.
I agree with what you say, it did feel like a throwaway line mentioning Maggot and Mole the way he did. King Charles could’ve also mentioned making their children Prince and Princess, the fact he didn’t speaks volumes. I say it again, I think Mole is firmly on the peripherals of the royal family now. 🫤
Ians'Girl
" Am I the only one who took KC's statement about H&M "building a life overseas" as a message to them?
As in, build your lives overseas and damn well stay there?"
I agree with you
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Archie and Lilibet
King Charles III can revoke their right to be named princes with new letters patent. That's what we're imagining will happen.
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"What is the Role of a Prince?
In essence, “prince” or “princess” implies a certain closeness to the Monarch, to the extent that they can act on behalf of the Monarch. This can include duties that flow from the Monarch’s formal position as Head of State, as provided for by the Regency Acts 1937-1953 (the problems with which I have previously discussed here). Alternatively, princes and princesses fulfil “duties” in a looser sense. Typically, this means undertaking engagements around the country and overseas, serving as patron of charities and other organisations, or leading charitable endeavours themselves"
https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2021/03/23/craig-prescott-modernising-the-monarchy-moving-beyond-the-1917-letters-patent-and-the-george-v-convention/
@Hikari,
Re The Coronation
You said, I am sure in accordance with his slimmed-down philosophy, King Charles III will opt for a simpler and less lavish ceremony than his mother had.
I’m not so sure about a simpler and less lavish ceremony. It’s an extremely symbolic State religious ceremony. Our State opening of Parliament hasn’t changed much over the centuries. I think King Charles’ Coronation will be a very lavish but poignant occasion, and so it should be. 🤗
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I agree entirely. A slimmed down monarchy means fewer working royals as opposed to an extended family. The ceremony of the coronation is a completely separate issue. I think the British excel at all this pageantry and I've always found the Queen's coronation, available on video, very moving, particularly the placing of the crown and the music, especially Zadok the priest. I hope Charles will have a similar ceremony. I speak for myself but I don't want to see a modern, simple, modernised ceremony.
The words `...as long as you stay there!' seemed to hang in the air.
As to the now Catherine, Princess of Wales, are we going to start a betting pool on when Meghan addresses herself as Princess Meghan?
Is Harry's surname (not the children - they are Mountbatten-Windsor) still Wales?
Would * be so bold as to refer herself as the princess of wales?
I’m not so sure about a simpler and less lavish ceremony. It’s an extremely symbolic State religious ceremony. Our State opening of Parliament hasn’t changed much over the centuries. I think King Charles’ Coronation will be a very lavish but poignant occasion, and so it should be. 🤗
I agree that this--for many of us now living who were not around to witness the Queen's coronation 70 years ago--is a once-in-a-lifetime event that is too important to be rushed or stinted upon.
I was just wondering, in pragmatic terms, how long the government or indeed the new King himself would want to wait to hold this anointing of Charles's reign. As he will be 74 years old on his next birthday and has been awaiting this moment for three quarters of a century nearly, I'm sure he must be anxious to be crowned as soon as possible, in order to solidify his Kingship. He is King right now, of course, but for many, especially those who are not British, this fact will not become reality for them until they see the Crown of state placed on his head.
Elizabeth's father was crowned 5 months after the Abdication, and this was considered quite swift but matters were expedited since, with only a few tweaks, it was possible to use the Coronation plans that had already been put in place for Edward VIII. In contrast, the young Queen had to wait for 16 months for her Coronation. I realize that there are a lot of moving parts to bring together a ceremonial event of this magnitude, but nearly a year-and-a-half seems extreme. Political machinations by Winnie, I gather, who delayed Elizabeth's coronation to make political hay out of it and ensure himself another term as Prime Minister.
I think we can all agree that time is of the essence for King Charles III to be confirmed in his new role to set a firm foundation on a reign that's already deemed shaky in some quarters even though it hasn't properly started. Before he can be crowned, Charles must preside over the state mourning and burial of his mother. If 5 months is considered swift for a coronation, then it's out of the question that he could be crowned by his birthday on November 14th. There won't be anything during December due to the Christmas holidays. So I'm wondering if it's plausible for us to expect a Coronation for the new King by . . Valentine's Day? . . or have to strap in for a year or more. So I wondered if there were any parts of the process that might somehow be modified or eliminated to expedite the process. Not in terms of the actual ceremony itself, which is the heart of the entire thing, but rather perhaps the numbers of persons who would be invited to attend in person or some of the other 'pomp' elements not directly relating to the anointing part. I meant rather logistical details or the scale of it that would make preparations take up to a year-plus to arrange. If Britain can put on a Royal Wedding in four months, can it do a Coronation that quickly?
Blogger Humor Me said...
Charles names William Prince of Wales
Charles acknowledges Harry and Meghan as they build their lives overseas.
Nothing about Edward as DoE.
Nice address. I cannot image how he held it together.
When I talked to my husband about the speech, I could barely speak because I was getting all teary. I don't know how he held it together, either.
I'm wondering whether he didn't mention Edward as DoE because he knew he has time to do it ceremoniously later? Do y'all suppose that KCIII immediately announcing the Prince and Princess of Wales (who now hold the purse that Prince Charles used to pay *6now5* from) was sending a message as well?
1) he holds the duchy purse strings (and he should take the previous sussex share and put it into a low income fund that will help people with energy costs and do it in their name. ha! i know this is what they would want. ha!!)
2) catherine will be princess of wales. that is gonna smart forever. now that will make wifey cry legitimately. slap slap slap. kate should send a case to pinot grigio as a “thanks for your support”. so the wifey can tie one on as she shrieks about it all
this all will set her off. if it’s clear he’s not in. she will be out. bye bye mrs windsor 😉
Unlike The Prince and Princess of Wales, the duo do not have an official royal social media accounts or press office. They are going to have a credibility problem if they try to make an announcement themselves. Remember yesterday when their spokesperson (whoever that is) stated they were both on their way to Balmoral, and then this had to be corrected, and no one believed anything put out until the photographs of him getting off the plane were published with a confirmed time from the photographer?
They are doing their usual indirect or hasty direct briefings to the media, but are looking amateur and certainly not credible against the palace machinery that is working in all its glory at present, and is not performing the PR for them that they want because they are not important in any official way at present and unlikely to be in the future.
Is she really going to stay away from the children for more than two weeks? And what are they going to do, confined to Frogmore Cottage, while they wait around a week or more for the funeral? I think she might bolt. Would he pay up for an extra private flight for her home and back again for the funeral (with children to see grandpa the King)?
Thank you Ma'am
A promise with destiny kept
Leaving us all bereft
At the end of her reign
We do exclaim
Our loss is Heaven's gain
Nothing about Edward as DoE
I missed that! And given that the King was so quick to name William and Catherine Prince and Princess of Wales, I find myself getting a little tense for Edward!
And @Karla, you always seem to say wha I'm feeling, and express it so much more elegantly.
Your heartfelt poem is excellent. I especially liked “Our loss is Heaven's gain”. So very true.
Well done.
Stop and think about it - it is all about the messaging for the next year until the coronation. I hope he does not wait that long, but doing it now looses something.
Meanwhile, William as PoW was seriously expected - the press has been literally calling him that in describing the new era. Any delay on that announcement would have sent the wrong message, as he IS the oldest son of the King, and the rightful heir to that appointed title. Just my thoughts. I hope everyone is doing a little better today.
The letters patent don’t apply here now Charles is King, he can just bestow the titles if he wishes. The titles are usually automatic when an heir becomes the next monarch, The Queen only issued them for William’s children because they were her great grand children and so they wouldn’t have been entitled to the titles of Prince and Princess because their Father wasn’t yet a Monarch.
As yet, there’s been no official confirmation whether King Charles has given the Duo’s children titles. I personally don’t foresee titles for the duos children anytime soon. Why would they need titles living in America where there’s no use or meaning to them? 🫤
Seeing Major Johnny greeting the new PM today indicates that he's Charles' man, made the strategic seating arrangements at the Jubilee all the more interesting
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That was an unexpected treat seeing Major Johny greeting the PM. I thought he looked a bit ruffled but none the worse for it.
The late Queen seems to have an eye for good looking equerries. The Royal Marine that met the PM at Balmoral, Lieutenant Colonel Tom White seems to have a similar aura. Unfortunately the photo from Balmoral where Carrie Johnston turns into a giggling schoolgirl on shaking his hand has been wiped from the internet and this is the best photo I can find. He's the one with the scrambled egg on his shoulder.
https://gazette.com/news/us-world/queen-elizabeths-audience-with-johnson-and-truss-at-balmoral-castle/image_29331fa6-49cc-5d52-81c2-46c9e08aaff2.html
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I was glad that I heard the news first from Lady C. Some of the Nutties detected something in the late Queen's appearance some months ago that suggested the end of near. I was wondering what it was you noticed?
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Camilla has been pictured today wearing what appears to be a Staffordshire Knot diamond brooch. I was wondering what her connection was to Staffordshire. Does anyone know? I wondered if her Dad had been in the Saffordshire Regiment and this took me to Wikipedia. He wasn't in that regiment however the photo of her dad looks a bit similar to a young Prince Charles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Shand
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I am hoping that KC's failure to mention the dukedom of Edinburgh today is because he wanted to do things properly and not have it overshadowed by the announcement about the POWs. However he is known to be petty and I hope he doesn't treat Edward and Sophie badly.
Not wasting any time to appoint William Prince of Wales and move forward. The mention of H & M was quite masterful. They cannot claim they were excluded from the speech . . and yet, he only used their first names. No titles. Coming immediately after his fulsome glowing remarks about the new Prince and Princess of Wales being such a help to him, the contrast cannot be missed. There is absolutely no hint of any future relationship to the Twunts of California, either personal or in terms of any connection to the workings of the Royal family business. Sounded like a kiss-off to me . . a gentle one in the weary tones of a father pushed to his breaking point by exasperation and hurt. Harry barely stayed 12 hours in Scotland so I am gratified to see that he was invited to, or invited himself to f*ck right off after he'd paid respects to his grandmother. That might have taken 10 minutes absolute tops because Hawwy is no good at being alone with his thoughts. There be dragons.
That the family refused to share transport with him despite time being of the essence speaks volumes also. They are showing him in unvarnished terms what being a 'private citizen' looks like.
His publisher would do well to withdraw the manuscript for publication. Ditto the Netflix and Spotify and BetterUp deals. Cancel everything because Hawwy has just lost his very last pence of currency in terms of relevancy. The decline may be very swift now, watch and see.
@HumorMe and Embre, re. the Duke of Edinburgh title for Edward
I am not surprised that didn't come up in this speech. William's new title(s) are a matter of state. DoE is not. In terms of heft, it would have struck a wrong note to have included that in terms of the gravitas of the situation. Conferring DoE is more of a private matter, so is the conferral of Prince/Princess on the Sussex grandchildren whom we are not sure exist. Both instances would be 'family' titles that are courtesies vs. of constitutional importance. To withhold DoE from his brother would be vindictive and I'm choosing to think the best of Charles until events prove that he intends to withhold that title. I just don't think it was high on the list of priorities today and might not even be on the Royal radar until things settle down.
King Charles has burst out of the gate very strongly but it is going to be a trying period to come. Prayers for him, for strength and wisdom and endurance, and for the whole extended family. Apart from Harry and his twunt wife. I will borrow a Wiccan curse I saw posted on a Facebook post---May Evil Be Unto He Who Thinks (**and does) Evil.
His publisher would do well to withdraw the manuscript for publication. Ditto the Netflix and Spotify and BetterUp deals. Cancel everything because Hawwy has just lost his very last pence of currency in terms of relevancy. The decline may be very swift now, watch and see.
@HumorMe and Embre, re. the Duke of Edinburgh title for Edward
I am not surprised that didn't come up in this speech. William's new title(s) are a matter of state. DoE is not. In terms of heft, it would have struck a wrong note to have included that in terms of the gravitas of the situation. Conferring DoE is more of a private matter, so is the conferral of Prince/Princess on the Sussex grandchildren whom we are not sure exist. Both instances would be 'family' titles that are courtesies vs. of constitutional importance. To withhold DoE from his brother would be vindictive and I'm choosing to think the best of Charles until events prove that he intends to withhold that title. I just don't think it was high on the list of priorities today and might not even be on the Royal radar until things settle down.
King Charles has burst out of the gate very strongly but it is going to be a trying period to come. Prayers for him, for strength and wisdom and endurance, and for the whole extended family. Apart from Harry and his twunt wife. I will borrow a Wiccan curse I saw posted on a Facebook post---May Evil Be Unto He Who Thinks (**and does) Evil.
Thank you for your condolences, it is thoughtful.
@Sandie
Is she really going to stay away from the children for more than two weeks? And what are they going to do, confined to Frogmore Cottage, while they wait around a week or more for the funeral?
I sincerely hope she might be 'persuaded' to stay away. She can now go back to the children, ostensibly, and also be invited to the funeral - she is H's wife, the RF will have to invite her - but there might be a statement to the effect that she doesn't want to intrude on their grief or is reluctant to leave the children again etc, I 'm the RF can find some excuse for her to stay away. Should she, unfortunately, attend the funeral, I'm sure everybody will give her a wide berth.
Do y'all suppose that KCIII immediately announcing the Prince and Princess of Wales (who now hold the purse that Prince Charles used to pay *6now5* from) was sending a message as well?
@Swamp Woman: Yes, I think Charles was sending a tacit message to Harry and his manipulator by naming William POW and Kate Princess of Wales. I hope William totally cuts Harry and his odious wife off from any Duchy monies.
As I wrote here earlier, after Charles announced Willian being made POW, and Kate being made Princess OW and how much he loved them, his mention of Harry and his wife was just that, just a mention and no more. I also think the addition of Charles noting their life “overseas” emphasizes the Sussex’s familial distancing AND geographic distancing from his reign.
Although this may be wishful thinking, it sounds to me like the Sussexes are being gradually and subtlety written out of the royal family, the monarchy, and Charles’ reign.
Basically, Charles has waited his entire adult life to take the reins of the throne as monarch. Unlike his mother who had 70 years to build her historic legacy as Queen, Charles’ reign will not be nearly as long as that of his mother. At almost 74, he has maybe 20 years on the throne to lead his country and the Commonwealth and distinguish himself as King and a major player on the world stage as a leader.
I doubt he will show the same type of grandmotherly restraint toward the continuing hostility from his wayward dimwit son and his manipulative wife. My guess is Charles will take names and kick some Sussex ass, and he will be especially protective of Camilla. In addition to Charles, William will also be someone Harry should fear.
Now that Harry’s protector the Queen is gone, if anyone in the royal family should fear the publication of his upcoming book, it’s Harry.
Now that Charles is the King, he is at the pinnacle of power and what does it benefit him to create bad feeling between himself and the Wessexes? Or himself and the public over this matter? The public is aware that it was the wish of both of Edward's late parents that he have his father's title. If Charles expedites its granting, he will seem magnanimous. Withhold it and seem like a petty arseh*le. Not a Kingly look and there are already enough high profile arseh*oles in that family. Charles needs to keep the Wessexes on-side, and he certainly can't court bad press over being petty.
That being said, even if he does move faster on it, I wouldn't expect any such announcement until after the Coronation.
As to the now Catherine, Princess of Wales, are we going to start a betting pool on when Meghan addresses herself as Princess Meghan?
We may just get a lot more articles about * trying to go shopping incognito (ha), but having children bowing and curtsying before "the real live princess" in their midst. Or Archie getting "crowned" by his awed classmates at kindergarten. (If the latter, then someone will need to check the details against the time a young * got herself crowned and started bossing around her peers . . . at someone else's birthday party.)
Unfortunately the photo from Balmoral where Carrie Johnston turns into a giggling schoolgirl on shaking his hand has been wiped from the internet
This is what I found: https://www.wvnews.com/newsfeed/world/britain-politics/image_89540481-bb5e-55d4-82dd-cf73f80ef828.html
Or is there another one, in which she looks even more flustered?
I too was wondering what the pair will do over the next week. Will she go back for the sake of saving face and of course for the erm children? 🥴I honestly don’t think she’ll be welcome at all by anyone. Mole will get a pass because he’s family. I do wonder where he’ll be sat though during the funeral, let not forget where he’ll be placed walking behind the gun carriage. 🥴
Now that Harry’s protector the Queen is gone, if anyone in the royal family should fear the publication of his upcoming book, it’s Harry.
That's right. In light of current events, if Hawwy and the Beast had an ounce of sense between them--not to mention his publisher--they would withdraw that book from publication ASAP. Dumping on his father by keeping the memory of Charles's affair alive, piling on Camilla and calling her nasty names . . whinging about his brother, who stole the ring intended for Hawwy's bride and used racist language like 'this girl' . . it's not gonna fly anymore. Now he'll be throwing rocks at the King and the King's right hand . . puny rocks lobbed all the way from California.
Harry is toast. This would be an excellent time to come to Jesus because only Jesus can save him now. The fall is accelerating . . the SPLAT inevitable. I will look forward to watching it.
what I know about the 1917 Letters Patent
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The key provision of the 1917 Letters Patent
“that the children of any Sovereign of these Realms and the children of the sons of any such Sovereign and the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales shall have and at all times hold and enjoy the style title or attribute of Royal Highness with their titular dignity of Prince or Princess prefixed to their respective Christian names or with their other titles of honour”.
This can be summarised into the following three points:
(1) All children of the Sovereign can be called a prince or princess;
(2) Those children, whose father is a son of the Sovereign, can be called a prince or princess;
(3) The eldest son, of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales, can be called a prince.
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In one sense, the rules are clear: .and Lilibeth are sons of the sovereign's son
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Now, if there is another rule I don't know. Maybe that's why I made some confusion.
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Princess Beatrice is expected to become one of four counsellors of state, allowing her to stand in for the King if he is abroad or incapacitated.
Under the 1937 Regency Act, the spouse of a monarch and the four adults next in line to the throne can be deployed as counsellors of state on official business.
Queen Elizabeth II had four Counsellors of State - the Prince of Wales, the Duke of Cambridge, the Duke of Sussex and the Duke of York - with the Duke of Edinburgh also acting as one before his death.
Buckingham Palace has been under pressure to eject Prince Harry and Prince Andrew from their roles and install other adult members of the working Royal family in their places.
Prince Harry can technically still act as a counsellor because he retains a UK address at Frogmore Cottage, Windsor, despite living in California, which he now calls home.
Prince Andrew’s effective sacking as a working royal over his friendship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and a civil court case in which he was accused of sexually abusing sex trafficking victim Virginia Giuffre, prompted questions about whether he should still be permitted to perform the role.
His elder daughter, Princess Beatrice, is now ninth in line to the throne but the fourth aged over 21.
She married property tycoon Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi in 2020 and they had a daughter, Sienna, in September 2021.
She works for software company Afiniti as vice president for strategy and partnerships and although not an official working royal, does carry out occasional engagements.
In this new role, she would be authorised to attend Privy Council meetings, sign routine documents and receive the credentials of new ambassadors to the UK.
The Queen is now eligible to become a counsellor of state as the King’s wife.
It is rare for counsellors of state to be called upon but not unprecedented.
In May, the then Prince Charles and Prince William attended the State Opening of Parliament on behalf of Queen Elizabeth II, opening the new session after being deployed to deputise for her.
Two Counsellors of State were required to be present in order to be constitutionally sound.
Meghan Markle was booked to go on Jimmy Fallon’s show as part of her latest PR salvo — but will now be preparing for Queen Elizabeth’s funeral, sources told Page Six.
The Duchess of Sussex was booked on NBC’s “The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon” for Tuesday, Sept. 20, as she and husband Prince Harry were due to be in New York City for the 77th session of the UN General Assembly (UNGA 77).
“Meghan was due on Fallon,” a source told Page Six. “I don’t even know what she was going to talk about, but that’s obviously canceled now.”
The next episode of Markle’s Archetype podcast on Spotify, due to stream Tuesday, is also set to be pushed back, we’re told.
On Friday, Markle was waiting to be reunited with husband Prince Harry at their Windsor home, Frogmore Cottage. He was the first royal to leave Balmoral, the Queen’s Scottish estate, on Friday morning, following the monarch’s death at age 96 on Thursday.
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They were planning to sabotage William's address to the UN General Assembly, which will now be postponed.
As for the DM pushing this notion of Charles offering an olive branch to them in his address ... ? He is using the same strategy as the Queen did, but he made quite clear that they are not part of the Firm, simply beloved family members, which is what he was saying a week ago anyway. That did not get TBW into Balmoral, nor did it get the hapless prince a ride on the plane with his brother.
I had understood that a slimmed down monarchy was code for I am going to shaft my brother Andrew. Am I wrong?
I could see no problem with lady C's video and I first learned the sad news from her; the Palace can make its formal announcement in its own time for it was clear that the end was either near or had already happened - those BBC anchor's all dressed in black,
the failure to play down the queen's health problems. So I went into Tesco and instead of the usual over-loud Motown their speakers blast out we today had the quieter tones of an Oboe Concerto's andante by (I assumed) J.S.Bach. The cashier to whom I mentioned this agreed with my sentiments and attribution so I am not sure why Tesco seeks to annoy its customers. I would have preferred quiet but one must be thankful for small mercies.
I see you good ladies have been much affected by the passing of our late monarch and are now energised by the appearance of the new King. I never understood why my parents mocked the former PoW (taking out on him what they really wanted to take out on their own dreadful offspring) and I wish him well but hope he now concentrates on Kingly things. I was much impressed by the kindly message of condlolence of the Russian president to the people of our country given the way we treat him. Mr Putin and I share this: neither of us own or use a smart phone so I feel sure it really was his message.
I still do not believe in the existence of the alleged children of No.5.
Major Johnny is one of the King's men now (the Major Johnny who was seated behind the duo at the Jubilee service, who was first spotted with the Queen at Balmoral about a year ago). He features in a couple of the videos as he escorted the Prime Minister for her first audience with the King (KC3). His appearances have greatly pleased ardent admirers all over the world (Major Johnny is rather dishy and wears a kilt).
You’re taking it literally, the clue is in the can be bit. It doesn’t mean is or will have. The Earl of Wessex is a Prince and his children can be called Prince and Princess but they are not. The Princess Royal’s children don’t have titles either, her choice as well.
The fact Mole has chosen to walk away from being a working royal, and the fact both he and Maggot stated publicly they didn’t want their children to have titles is cause to believe they won’t have any. There’s been no mention or official confirmation (as yet) that their children will have titles. 🤗
That's right. In light of current events, if Hawwy and the Beast had an ounce of sense between them--not to mention his publisher--they would withdraw that book from publication ASAP. Dumping on his father by keeping the memory of Charles's affair alive, piling on Camilla and calling her nasty names . . whinging about his brother, who stole the ring intended for Hawwy's bride and used racist language like 'this girl' . . it's not gonna fly anymore. Now he'll be throwing rocks at the King and the King's right hand . . puny rocks lobbed all the way from California.
Harry is toast.
Right on, Hikari. I thought the same thing too. Power has consolidated and Harry's been left out in the cold. You know Meghan's gotta be raging at Kate being granted Diana's title while Harry and his children were given a big fat nothing. And he validates they are private citizens living their best life abroad, now bugger off! I can hear sweet Meghan's guttural roar from Montecito from my back porch. Oh what a cruel cruel world!
People magazine has already named Archie prince and Lilibet as princess. Oh, MM waste no time!
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DM too
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s son Archie Mountbatten-Windsor is now technically a prince due to rules set out by King George V in 1917. Archie is technically history's first Prince of Sussex.
"When Archie was born he was too far down the line of succession for such a title according to George V’s restrictions, but now, as the son of a son of a sovereign, he can be an HRH and a prince.
Archie was allowed to become Earl of Dumbarton, one of the duke’s subsidiary titles, when he was born, or could have been known as Lord Archie Mountbatten-Windsor, but Buckingham Palace said his parents had decided he should be plain Master Archie instead.
During the explosive Oprah Winfrey interview, Meghan Markle described her 'pain' as she claimed officials had denied Archie the title of prince and accused Buckingham Palace of failing to protect him by denying him 24/7 security.
When asked if it was 'important' for Meghan that Archie be called a prince, she said she doesn't have any attachment to the 'grandeur' of official titles.
But she said it was about 'the idea of our son not being safe, and also the idea of the first member of colour in this family not being titled in the same way that other grandchildren would be.'
In 2021, it was suggested Charles - in a bid to limit the number of key royals - intended, when he became king, to prevent Archie becoming a prince.
To do so, he will have to issue a Letters Patent amending Archie’s right to be a prince"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11196353/The-Queens-death-Royal-Familys-titles-change.html
Rebecca English reckons that first day at school was not the only reason Catherine did not go to Balmoral. She would instinctively know that it was a time for blood family. Sophie was as close to the Queen as a daughter so she was an exception.
Rebecca confirms that the Palace found out through the duo's announcement through their chosen media that TBW was intending to go to Balmoral with her husband. The reaction at the Palace was sheer horror. Rebecca is not sure who intervened, but someone stopped TBW in her tracks, and the journey was delayed for the hapless prince who was still in the air when the death of the Queen was announced.
Piers Morgan was just interviewed on Fox News and said that he thought King Charles made it abundantly clear in his first public speech that the Sussexes are no longer important to the Royal Family, because he referred to them as simply “Harry and Meghan” rather than as the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Piers believes that they will continue to try and inflict maximum damage on the Royal Family out of spite, though, and that this would be especially harmful to relations with certain Commonwealth countries.
I have read in the Times and Telegraph that Charles is highly likely to make changes to the Letters patent which would prevent Archie and Lilibet from getting any titles, and possibly strip Harry and his wife of their Duke and Duchess rank. I fervently hope that is the case.
Is there a Nutty betting pool going? My bet is that she will not return for the funeral. To fly all the way there just to be seated in the second row and to the side again would be too irking. And even she must be "whip-smart" enough to know that showing up in wrinkled clothes and scuffed shoes for one final act of disrespect would mean looking like a bag lady next to THE PRINCESS OF WALES.
Before the Jubilee, the Dollars still had some hope of getting close to the monarch and perhaps scoring some photos. They must know that that is downright impossible now. Trevor Coult's tea was that the main reason Harry traveled alone to Balmoral was that the other Senior Royals refused to allow him on their plane. They simply didn't trust him to be around either the new King nor the new Crown Prince. Even if they said nothing incriminating in front of him, they believe he has gone low enough to peddle genuine expressions of grief made in his presence to the highest bidder. He's really out now.