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Netflix - Part Two


Those first episodes - wow.  Not a good look (and holds that since the drop).  The silence is deafening from people in high places who previously would at least do blog mentions of support.

 People will remember the curtsey probably the long after this is over.  It was the essence of just how disrespectful she/their actions was/were to his grandmother, everything the Queen did, stood for and to the people of the UK.  

And, as someone pointed out, the only unintended parts were that HM passed early but the intention was that she should know and see it.  And, that they both wanted to be there (near HM) right before she passed.  

We knew, just like the interviews, that there would be a lot of editing out or deliberate misinformation by implying X when next showing Y while saying Z.  So we can expect more of the same for round two.  

An example from the trailer is that their security was cut but, as one poster put it, they are omitting that when you leave a job, they take away the company car and corporate credit cards. 

Or that cut of the Queen's promise of service from long ago.  That was something else (apparently) intending for HM to hear.  And yet so easily found by people who are just looking for these "actions which are not as they appear to be".  It is like watching Lost.  You always had to be paying attention to the whole picture because while they were pointedly waving their right hand, you had to also be tracking the left and scanning the background.

What's remains is their story of how remarkable their relationship is, their meeting, dating but how many different versions can there be?  Or what is left for their Show and Tell to the world? What's the encore after this and the book?  

Every negative claim is always so vague and nothing ever seems to have legitimate receipts attached to it.  And that someone (I read that one was Gail King before and now *'s attorney) claims to have seen these proofs of the links between the Palace and the stories which seemed to cause distress in *.   People can say anything short of screaming fire but is there really something which could be taken to a court of law?  As one poster put it - something about how even if the Palace had done such a thing, doesn't mean those stories aren't true.  Or that if it only says Palace on the caller ID but no specific phone extension, it could also mean that the source could have just as easily been *.  Or, someone using someone else's phone.  

Good point about possible trying to draw the Palace into a protracted legal battle.   

And yet the Palace machine keeps rolling forward without appearing to have any of this register as something worthwhile to respond to.  An unaltered trajectory by all appearances.  

I read somewhere that they may actually believe that they can reunite with his family at some point down the road.  

Given the couple are  making all kinds of claims about the monarchy and the people who work within it, limited access to show and teach their kids anything of the centuries of the country's history, customs and traditions (ahem, cough), aren't living in the UK or a Commonwealth, having so much difficulty with his family, nor serving the king in public duties  - one wonders what the British Royal family would really gain from the reconciliation show as directed by the couple after so many attempts to appear to undermine the very institution they allow, no insist on maintaining contact (photos, articles and so on) of themselves to be tethered to.  I don't have a clue about that.  

Comments

AnnieC said…
Their holiday card is on par with everything they do - and that is to say: odd. How they listed all their separate organizations - weird. The picture is not flattering of her at all, and sometimes I think she can look rather pretty. My husband and I are 36 (honestly ha!) and have a son and daughter about the same ages of their alleged kids. So, very similar families and we also live in the USA. I have not received a single card from a family this year that did not include a picture of the children. Cards we got from companies have no picture but have the company logo on the front.
I also wanted to comment on a video from the second Netflix release that I have seen posted on social media. In the video she is doing a goofy exaggerated version of the “tootsie roll” dance. It struck me as something that really aged her. I’m 36 as mentioned above and I can remember my babysitters doing the dance move she was. Now my babysitters are closer to 50 years old than 40.
I’ve never posted this much before but wanted to share today. And wish everyone a happy Saturday! I read every comment and have for years now. Cheers :)
SwampWoman said…
@ NeutralObserver, in reference to the London Times A source close to the Sussexes says that after Harry’s book, the couple will “focus on their service work” rather than “anything personal — they’re looking forward to people being interested in what they’re doing beyond all the drama.”

I'm sure you are as deeply interested as I am to find out what sort of 'service work' that Harry intends to do. Perhaps we'll be enlightened with "The Duchess Does Dallas" porn video starring Harry's First Wife. They could donate the proceeds to charity, but we know her talons are never going to let go of any money. Harry would probably have to pay people to watch it, and for her award ceremony.
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Sandie said…
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/royal-family-press-office-harry-meghan-documentary-change

This is odd. Kensington Palace said they did receive something from someone who was not from Netflix or Archwell. KP replied but that reply was ignored. KP certainly did not decline to comment, but could not make a comment as they did not know what was in the 6-part borefest.

@NeutralObserver
Thanks for the article from London Times. I find it rather disturbing. They really do not understand that they are well and truly out and have no role to play in the monarchy.
Fifi LaRue said…
Mrs. Dumbarton wants a summit with the King of England so he can apologize to her?
This is a rinse and repeat of what she subjected her father to over many, many years. Mr. Markle acquiesced to her over and over. There was no end to it, and Mrs. Dumbarton carries this over to her FIL. She is delusional, mean, vile, and crazy.
Mr. Markle produced a monster because he had no idea how to parent, how to set limits, how to say "No."
DesignDoctor said…
@NeutralObserver
Thank you for posting the article from the London Times! A really interesting read.
DesignDoctor said…
The comments regarding the second three Netflix episodes on Reddit Saint Meghan Markle are worth a read. Great commentary!

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/zmgh5u/netflix_series_vol_2_episode_46_discussion_thread/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-meghan-demand-royal-family-28759010

The Twats are going to demand an apology from the BRF before they agree to attend the Coronation.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Fifi LaRue,

Sorry, I didn't see your post.

NeutralObserver said…
You're welcome fellow Nutties! I was so amazed that they were demanding an apology that I wanted to post it immediately. Below is a link to an archive version, & I may delete my earlier posts at some time.

https://archive.vn/9N6BS

Apparently, 5 is going on 60 Minutes in January to promote his book. I can't believe they're giving him that platform. Yikes.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11549743/Prince-Harry-set-fresh-media-blitz-America-promote-Spare-memoir-Netflix-series.html

I also recently read some speculation as to whether or not there will be another Netflix series, supposedly in May. It wasn't a confirmed story, just a rumor. Unfortunately, I can't remember where I read it, or I would link to the post. As much as we'd like to think the 5s will pipe down, it makes sense that they would have more that they want to expose the long suffering public to. They've been filming their faux royal tours, their appearances like Uvalde, Invictus, the Jubilee, the Queen's funeral, & who knows what else. It seems endless!
HappyDays said…

AnnieC said…
My husband and I are 36 (honestly ha!) and have a son and daughter about the same ages of their alleged kids. So, very similar families and we also live in the USA. I have not received a single card from a family this year that did not include a picture of the children.

@AnnieC: Remember that for a person like Meghan, whose behaviors check the boxes for narcissistic personality disorder, all people are objects to potentially be used for narcissistic fuel, character acquisition, facade management, or monetary or material gain and other forms of fuel.

Like Harry, those children are useful objects — at this time. Perhaps she thinks she will be able to command big $$$ for exclusive photos of them, maybe from a magazine. Another reason to keep them mostly hidden is she plans to place photos of them in her book, which I have heard will be published in the third quarter of 2023 to allow time for her to add content from her experiences at CK3’s coronation in May.

She already uses these children to a certain extent for facade management to portray herself as a loving, doting, caring mother, which is likely as far from reality as the distance from Earth to Mars. Narcs are horrible mothers. Search “narcissists as mothers”.

I recall reading around the time of Archie’s birth that she was trying to sell an exclusive magazine story with photos of Archie and her and Harry that asked in the seven-figure range, but there were no takers. It was likely due to the newspaper and magazine businesses no longer awash in money as they were in the 80s and 90s when this sort of thing happened, and all of the money or at least part of it was donated to charity.

It could also be that there wasn’t that much interest in the Sussexes to pay that kind of money and get a return on it in advertising sales and readers who would buy the publication.

Meghan was primarily looking for a big payday, and I am guessing most of it would be going to her and Harry, but she was about 15 to 20 years too late.

She and Harry will claim their kids’ faces are not usually seen or only partially seen due to security concerns, which is plausible, but I think the security concerns would quickly disappear if they received a big check.

Additionally, a narcissist like Meghan has a difficult time resisting getting her face in the media, especially when she knows the captioning will likely say the photo was shot when they received the Ripples of Hope award, which was likely a brokered deal arranged by Sunshine Sachs, who at the time this award to the Sussexes was announced earlier this year, represented not only Meghan and Harry, but also served as publicists for another of clients, the Kennedy foundation that gave the award. How convenient!

Sunshine Sachs charged both clients big bucks to arrange the award, which efficiently provides publicity for both clients. Basically, SS received payment from two separate clients for what amounts to one project.

Their NAACP Image award earlier this year was likely a similar deal in that at that time, Sunshine Sachs represented both the Sussexes and the NAACP Image Awards.

The reason I know is that in publicity releases for both of these awards, a person at Sunshine Sachs was listed as a publicity/media contact.
DesignDoctor said…
@GWAH wrote:
The Twats are going to demand an apology from the BRF before they agree to attend the Coronation

I hope and pray the Royal Family keeps their wall of silence. Apologize for WHAT??? The 5’s should be apologizing to them!
Petunia said…
I'm of two minds about the alleged Coronation invitation. I'd like to see them cut off completely, but OTOH, inviting them and then snubbing them by putting them behind Sir Candlestick of Westminster and his colleagues, excluding them from any working royal events, etc. might work better to show that they are personae non grata (or whatever the plural form is).
They do have an out that they can use, which is Archie's birthday. Even though the date was chosen for other reasons, the harkles could plausibly state that as this 4th b'day is probably the first he will remember, and because they are such devoted parents (ha!), they are forced to send their regrets.
As for Marlene...she'd probably be the first to call someone out for "cultural appropriation". Much Schadenfreude as more is revealed about her entire life being appropriated! Even cornrows are not of African origin: the first known example is on a Venus figurine that is 40,000 years old. From France.
Finally, I bet * is destroying H on purpose. And if he does himself in, she will play the grieving widow and go after someone even richer. Maybe even someone who owns a yacht.
Humor Me said…
This is all about control on KCIII’s day.
Charles has extended an invitation.
The duo demand to make the total occasion about themselves.
The worst thing Charles or William can do is to meet with Harry- it will have the appearance of appeasement. * will make it about her.
Charles has given them an invitation. What the Harkles are doing is all on them. Not Charles as long as he does nothing else- save them two seats on the second row at the Abbey. That is all he has to do to keep his end of the invite.
SwampWoman said…
Petunia said: Finally, I bet * is destroying H on purpose. And if he does himself in, she will play the grieving widow and go after someone even richer. Maybe even someone who owns a yacht.

But what is she going to bring to the relationship? She has an entire cargo plane full of baggage. She has a long track record of broken relationships. She (allegedly) has two children. Her 'friendships' appear to be transactional in nature. She acts like she doesn't have good sense and, since she isn't that good of an actress, I think that is her reality. She needs to lose the doe-eyed ingenue schtick because she isn't.

Let's see, what else: She spends like she has an entire plantation full of money trees growing out back. She lashes out at the people around her. She is difficult to listen to. She is a bit old to be a trophy wife. (Trophy wife has a difficult job to keep up her appearance because she will be replaced with the slightest sign of aging. We know she appears to have an aversion to hard work.) Her professional appearance can be...well, she can look really good or really bad. With her love of plastic surgery, I can see her morphing into Jocelyn Wildenstein but with a lower budget.
Fifi LaRue said…
@GWAH: No need to apologize! I like your comment, that the Dumbartons won't go to the Coronation unless they get an apology from KCIII. Love it! I guess they'll be staying home pouting and putting out more delusional garbage.
Petunia said…
They are such hypocrites. No one who lives in a huge mansion or charters jets cares about the environment, sustainability, or "climate change". Unless they have dozens of refugees or homeless living with them.

Playing the race card is beneath contempt. The ONLY evidence they have is the brooch worn by Princess Michael when she first met Meghan. That was in extremely poor taste. But considering her father was an actual Nazi, well...

Cracks me up how they want a meeting and apology from the RF. Absolutely delusional.
Rebecca said…
Well, this is interesting:

Rishi Sunak to take on Netflix amid Harry & Meghan accuracy row
Ofcom's powers to be extended to include streaming services with ability to impose fines of up to £250,000


Rishi Sunak will give the broadcasting watchdog the power to take on Netflix for the first time, amid a row about accuracy in the Harry & Meghan documentary.

Ministers are planning to pass a new law that would bring all streaming giants under the jurisdiction of Ofcom and hand it the power to impose fines of up to £250,000.

Viewers would also be able to complain to Ofcom about shows on Netflix, Amazon Prime and other services and see them investigated for breaches of a new code of conduct.

The plans are expected as soon as next year and will form part of the Government's Media Bill, which will also promote "distinctively British content", The Telegraph understands.

It comes after Netflix was criticised for misleading viewers in Harry & Meghan, a six-part documentary series fronted by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and released over the last fortnight.

A photograph used in the documentary’s trailer, purportedly showing how the couple were hounded by the press, later transpired to have been taken at a Harry Potter film premiere five years before the couple met.

The trailer also included footage that appeared to show photographers scrambling for a shot of the Duke and Duchess as they left a radio station studio in 2018, but in reality depicted paparazzi chasing Katie Price, a former glamour model, outside a court where she had been sentenced for drink driving.

The documentary itself contained a recording of a speech by Queen Elizabeth II, delivered on her 21st birthday in South Africa, that had been edited in an apparent attempt to emphasise a quote about her love of the British Empire.

Royal sources complained that viewers learning about the late Queen and the Commonwealth for the first time from the documentary would be presented with an “appalling and factually inaccurate” account.

Under the broadcasting rules outlined in Ofcom’s code, “factual programmes or items or portrayals of factual matters must not materially mislead the audience”.

On the day Harry & Meghan was released, the regulator was forced to issue a statement reminding the public that while it was “sometimes contacted by people who’ve seen something they found harmful or offensive on a streaming service like Netflix”, it was powerless to take any action.

Michelle Donelan, the Culture Secretary, is hoping to bring forward the Media Bill next year to establish a legal basis for Ofcom to regulate streaming services that are not based in the UK, including Netflix and Apple TV+, which are based in the Netherlands and Ireland respectively.

The watchdog will be charged with drawing up a new “Video-on-demand Code” that is expected to be similar to the rules laid down for the BBC and other terrestrial broadcasters.

It will also be handed new enforcement powers that are likely to mirror those it holds to rap broadcasters for breaches of the code - which include fines of up to £250,000 and orders to comply.

The other major policy planned for the Bill - allowing the Government to sell off Channel 4 - is understood to have been scrapped.

Rebecca said…
On Saturday, Tory MPs welcomed the Government’s plans and said they could put a stop to misleading statements from the Duke and Duchess of Sussex in future, including their use of stock footage.

Bob Seely, a Conservative MP who is planning a parliamentary bill to strip the couple of their titles, said new rules would mean the couple would “not be allowed to get away with some of the obvious misrepresentation in the use of images, claiming the images were representing one thing when in fact they were entirely unconnected with Meghan and Harry”.

“I do think on principle that Netflix and other video streaming services should have the same ethical standards as other broadcasters like the BBC,” he said.

Tim Loughton MP, who has criticised the Duke and Duchess for their broadsides against other members of the Royal family, said the documentary had used “highly questionable” editing and should have been regulated in the same way as content from a broadcaster like the BBC, ITV or Channel 4.

“They should be subject to the same criteria,” he said. “That’s the problem with anything that’s now streamed or anything that’s now available on the internet.

“They’re not subject to the same publishing criteria as if it were a hard copy or in the terrestrial media.”

Plans to regulate streaming services were first drawn up in a white paper under Nadine Dorries, the former culture secretary, and had been scheduled to be debated by MPs during the current parliamentary session.

It is understood that Downing Street has accepted proposals from Ms Donelan to carry the plans over under Mr Sunak’s premiership, but sources suggested it was possible they could be delayed until 2024 amid a busy timetable for new legislation.

A Netflix spokesman said the company was "supportive of the measures to update the legal framework and bring our service in the UK under Ofcom's jurisdiction" but did not comment on claims of inaccuracy directed at the Harry & Meghan documentary.

Ofcom was contacted for comment.
SwampWoman said…
Humor Me said...
This is all about control on KCIII’s day.
Charles has extended an invitation.
The duo demand to make the total occasion about themselves.
The worst thing Charles or William can do is to meet with Harry- it will have the appearance of appeasement. * will make it about her.
Charles has given them an invitation. What the Harkles are doing is all on them. Not Charles as long as he does nothing else- save them two seats on the second row at the Abbey. That is all he has to do to keep his end of the invite.


Exactly so. KCIII does not *need* a couple of snakes in the abbey. Those two, however, are in far greater need of showing that they are still considered members of the family.

I would not want them there. I would not trust them.
SwampWoman said…
Oooh, Rebecca, interesting!
snarkyatherbest said…
petunia. i’m with you she would love her jackie kennedy moment and she can play harry by walking behind his casket. sadly i don’t think she understands her baggage. she probably thinks she is quite the catch and the next target i mean husband will be love bombed with the H abused me, i lashed out because the family threatened to take the kids away and oh they did so i’m free and single and ready to mingle.

KCIII i think is betting they won’t come because if they do they will make it all about them.

i am curious with the speculations few boards back that they were hard up for money and asked for money the condition wants neither come back or only harry comes back without her. curious if this is a thing how they will play it out. could have been legit. extending the invite is for harry to make a decision once and for all what he’s gonna do. kinda like a deadline. then again the money and conditions could have been misinformation
Petunia said…
Good points about what little * would have to offer a billionaire. Apart from baggage. An ageing yacht girl with two kids...not as much a catch as she thinks she is.
Rebecca said…
I agree with Sarah Vine:

SARAH VINE: Why I feel deeply uneasy at William's treatment of Lady Susan – and the way she's being sent for 're-education'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11549833/SARAH-VINE-feel-deeply-uneasy-Williams-treatment-Lady-Susan.html
Sandie said…
Apologies for going over old ground, but there is so much that I find disturbing. What emerged in the series:
* He saw a photo of her on IG post of a mutual friend and contacted her. (So they lied about a blind date. Why? Who is this mutual friend?)
* They met for a drink at Soho House. He was late; she left after half an hour to have dinner with friends. (Not unusual for the woman to choose the place for a first date but Soho House is a bit tacky for a prince. She managed to get his phone number though!)
* She contacted him the next day to arrange a date as she was only going to be around for two days. They had dinner and I think that was also at Soho House. She had him hooked by the end of the date and he would fly to Canada to see her within two weeks, but stay at Jessica's house because Cory was still living with her. (Would he have contacted her if she had not phoned him? Why did a prince not realize that he should be more cautious? To rush into such an intense relationship with someone not in your circle is highly risky for anyone but hugely problematic for a prince who was a working royal at the time.)
* She then joined him on a trip to Botswana where she persuaded him that she loved camping out in the bush in a small tent and peeing in the bush. (Does he not wonder why after she got the ring on her finger only private jets and luxury holiday mansions in exotic locations were good enough for her? Does he not ask what he fell in love with and what he married and that something does not add up?)

Why did they lie in the engagement interview? Why did she tell a different story in her Tatler interview? Are they lying now? Do they know what the truth is?
Sandie said…
Although I do think that they need a huge amount of money because of their spending, they are flush at the moment. They got 10 milion from Silicone Valley, which they had to put in their 'shady foundation'. They will use that for their private jets designer dresses, buying awards, and small donations to get attention. They now also have money from Netflix and Spotify; he gets money from ButterUp and she has shares in the latte company; plus they do have some money invested.

They want money from Charles and the monarchy because they are greedy, not because they need it.
----

Supposedly Anderson Cooper is going to interview him about the book. Although I am familiar with him, I do not know how savvy he is and if he will do his research. He is the son of the iconic poor little rich girl who lost his brother in a tragedy. I wonder if he can be objective and smell the BS.
Maneki Neko said…
Am I living in a parallel universe or is it the 5s? Following Lady Susan Hussey meeting with Ms Fulani/Beasley, now they want to meet the RF and want an apology, a source (*?) says. There is a lot of projection on their part in all this mess. They're the ones who need to apologise and in any case, the situation is completely different as Lady Hussey is an elderly lady with faultless service to the RF, and she shouldn't have had to apologise anyway. Perhaps they want a seat at the coronation. If so, that's not the way to do it or do they think Charles is weak if he has reportedly invited them?
I think they've been given enough rope to jump off Everest without harming themselves.
Magatha Mistie said…

Sore Puss

What lies beneath
her wig and false teeth
An insatiable desire
to inflict pain and grief
A burning cystitis
thrush like itch
No amount of scratching
will soothe this sore bi*ch…

Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

You mentioned Jeremy Clarkson's column. Here is an article about it. He's a straight talker so no bovine excrement from him.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11550183/Jeremy-Clarkson-blasted-saying-dreams-Meghan-Markle-paraded-naked-streets.html
Sandie said…
https://the-cat-with-the-emerald-tiara-1.tumblr.com/post/703917822399692800/if-this-doesnt-show-dont-worry-i-am-rubbish-at

Reps for Beyonce claim that they have no memory of sending a text message praising them for the Oprah interview.
Magatha Mistie said…

Folie Buggers

Now for their latest hypocrisy
The dolts expecting an apology
Neither’s respected
since he wed his froth
His pledge to the Queen
Grandma, sworn troth
Where
are they really coming from
An act of goodwill
or another buzz bomb…

The 5s will have to wait until March to discover whether they will get an invitation to Charles' and Camilla's big day.

It's considered Bad Form to send invitations too early because it robs people of pleading a `prior engagement' if they don't want to accept.

Assuming they do want to come, their insistence on an apology before accepting may keep them in the US.

Good. Problem solved.
Sandie said…
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20789789/party-game-sick-cards-harry-meghan-netflix/

This is shocking! I had to search for it, but it is at the side of the dressing table next to a pair of ankle boots.
Magatha Mistie said…

Faecestious

Jeremy Clarkson
a bit off the mark
Parading madam naked
too stark
As for the
chucking of excrement
A very apt choice
Excellent…

Magatha Mistie said…

@Sandie
Andy Cohen is a good friend
of Anderson Cooper?

Maneki Neko said…
Thank you, @Magatha, for Sore Puss and Folie Buggers😂. It's good to laugh!
xxxxx said…
I am getting a big kick out of the Dingbat Duo demanding an apology from the Royal Family.
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Unfortunately they’ll be there.
Biggest show on earth.
Sandie said…

https://twitter.com/moaningsparkle/status/1604178202791972866?s=61&t=r65Gw9zaxLrUjg_Ca8mLwA

Who was taking the photo? Why was a toddler completely unsupported in a bathtub of water? Why the heck are they sharing a photo of their toddler son naked on a TV show that they expected millions to watch? What is wrong with these people?
Sandie said…
@MM
Who is Andy Cohen? The name sounds like someone I have heard of but I cannot place him.
Magatha Mistie said…

Merci Maneki
for getting me X

@Sandie
Andy Cohen, Bravo Housewives,
featured on slug snorts
snail travail.


SwampWoman said…
Sandie said: Who was taking the photo? Why was a toddler completely unsupported in a bathtub of water? Why the heck are they sharing a photo of their toddler son naked on a TV show that they expected millions to watch? What is wrong with these people?

It looks like the photographer was somebody that the child was more familiar with than mommy and daddy and was desperately trying to get away from them.
@Sandie,

Andy Cohen is the presenter and Executive Producer to a lot of Reality type programmes, eg The Real Housewives etc 😀
SwampWoman said…
Sandie said: Who was taking the photo? Why was a toddler completely unsupported in a bathtub of water? Why the heck are they sharing a photo of their toddler son naked on a TV show that they expected millions to watch? What is wrong with these people?

It appears that Naked Toddler was going to person taking the photo for rescue from 'mommy' and 'daddy'.
SwampWoman said…
Nothing says "Look! We're normal parents just like YOU!" than a picture of a toddler trying to get away from them.
SwampWoman said…
Good morning, ladies and gents! (Well, midmorning here.) I salute you with my newest coffee mug emblazoned with "I can't fix stupid, but I can fix what stupid does." PoW needs that on a T-shirt.

This whole "William yelled at me and I was TERRIFIED!" strikes me as extremely funny. We know what you are married to, Harry. You get yelled at on a regular basis and, yes, you DO look terrified. It isn't because of William!
Opus said…
As the Monarch is the symbol of our nation an apology amounts to an apology from the people. One of three things will happen: KCIII will apologise in which case the demands will continue; no apology will be given but the Dumbartons will allege an apology given and attend; no apology and they will simply fail to attend but attempt to upstage the event.

Either the Dumbartons are in or they are out and imho extending an invite merely plays to their money for nothing in/out agenda. The only apology I want to hear is from QEII for allowing the marriage in the first place but too late for that.

O/t though it has been raised, I am most intrigued to learn that families in america plaster photos of their offspring on Xmas cards. I have never seen such a card. Over here, perhaps, that would be seen as a bit too much in your face. The ones I see have either angels/nativity scene or flying reindeers plus fat man in red.
at Maneki Neko -

also at:
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/jeremy-clarkson-widely-condemned-over-103811326.html

The outrage from the Lovies was to be expected I suppose.
Naked babies:

At one time it was considered normal for doting parents taking their babies to a professional photographer to have them photographed naked, lying stomach down on a fur rug. My family photos include a shot of my cousin (b.1940), She looks so sweet, no pervy overtones were seen in then. Think of all those naked baby Jesuses (Jesi?) in Renaissance painting.

I agree, he looks as if he was attempting escape.
I understood that mention of `Christmas' on cards was deemed unacceptable west of the Atlantic some years ago, lest somebody took offence.
SwampWoman said…
Opus said: O/t though it has been raised, I am most intrigued to learn that families in america plaster photos of their offspring on Xmas cards. I have never seen such a card. Over here, perhaps, that would be seen as a bit too much in your face. The ones I see have either angels/nativity scene or flying reindeers plus fat man in red.


I would say that most Christmas cards are still the latter; the ones that are of family are a way of keeping in touch with far-away family members that don't see each other often (or ever) since it is a large country. I have to say that Christmas cards are largely a relic of the past. Most people send e-cards or greetings by social media.
Observant One said…
@Opus - Most Americans who send photo-cards are 30 something’s who have young children. Like Annie C, I have NEVER received a Christmas card with the picture of a couple alone, without their children or pets. The majority of Christmas cards are not photo-cards. Many are religious and some are secular. I have received a few photo-cards from realtors, but not from any other business.
Observant One said…
I apologize if someone has already posted this link to a great article in the DM.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11549719/BARBARA-AMIEL-Calling-Royals-racist-bunk.html?ico=topics_pagination_desktop
OKay said…
Anderson Cooper is indeed a "real" journalist, but he's also a company man. So if he's told to lob softballs at the Harkles, that's what he'll do.
SwampWoman said…

Blogger Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
I understood that mention of `Christmas' on cards was deemed unacceptable west of the Atlantic some years ago, lest somebody took offence.


Depends on your location. I get "Have a blessed day!" and "Merry Christmas" all the time. Corporate offices may be politically correct; their employees, not so much. Leftist media are busily trying to eradicate any sort of morality in the population.

OKay said...
Anderson Cooper is indeed a "real" journalist, but he's also a company man. So if he's told to lob softballs at the Harkles, that's what he'll do.


I'd call him a talking head rather than a real journalist. He's firmly on a chain. I completely agree that he will do whatever his masters tell him to do.
snarkyatherbest said…
we get christmas cards from several senior executives of several Fortune 500 companies. if sent to the house it’s got family pics. if sent to the office it’s a generic card (no pic) AnneC. called it right on this one

Anderson Cooper. this will be interesting. on one hand yes he’s a company man but mgmt of cnn changed and they have ousted a bunch of high profile people (don lemon demoted brian seltzer fired ) and anderson cooper was born of emends wrath and privilege (he’s a vanderbilt american royalty). also i recall his brother commuted suicide. he may be softball on the mental health issue. i doubt he will challenge on that
OKay said…
@SwampWoman Sadly, yes, for the last two decades AC has really only been a talking head. I think it was toward the end of the 80s that he actually went out there and reported from war zones. Then he got a cushy job at CNN and never looked back.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

Who was taking the photo? Why was a toddler completely unsupported in a bathtub of water?
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I'd say their resident photographer took the photo. He must have been busy as every facet of their lives seems to have been documented. I looked at the photo, Archie is naked but there is nothing on show and H is supporting his stomach.

Andy Cohen is an American radio and television talk show host, producer, and writer (Wikipedia)
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Noar

The outrage from the Lovies was to be expected I suppose.

Ah yes! They 'condemned Jeremy Clarkson over “vile” remarks'.
Personally, I find Kathy Burke's comments vile.
I’ve lost the thread here….where does Anderson Cooper come into this? Is he down to interview the despicable duo? 🫤
snarkyatherbest said…
OMG just saw an add for the new horror file M3ghan. the rage line is “i can’t be turned off”. yes. it’s true someone can’t be turned off!!!!
snarkyatherbest said…
oh someone in the BRF should come up with their pens cards against humanity harkles version and bring it to christmas at sandringham. (sp?). or they could do skits. “who am i”. zara pre tending to be wm mike as harry watch harry shrink in terror when wm says YIU ARE USING THE WRONG FORK”. let catherine play Meghan it would be glorious fun.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

Oops! Apologies for misspelling your name at 8.00 pm (typo).
DesignDoctor said…
@Petunia said: Finally, I bet * is destroying H on purpose.

Of course * is doing it on purpose. That is what narcs do. They derive pleasure from it and know exactly what they are doing. Very cruel. So the whole “kindness” and humanitarian act is totally fake. It take a long time for the victim to reconcile that the destruction rained on them by the narc is intentional behavior, especially when they don’t treat anyone else like that so are socially perceived as “kind.”
KnitWit said…
I hope 60 minutes interviews Harry without the claw. And edits the piece well. Woke solid gives me indigestion.
@Maneki Neko re Kathy Burke.

Yes. It says more about her then it does about Clarkson and underlines what somebody said earlier regarding the double standard applied to women and men, with regard to certain kinds of behaviour.(I couldn't find the post to check who published it. Sorry)
Sandie said…
By the way, it was after she joined the royal family ... at Ascot: the Queen, Catherine, Zara and I think one of the York sisters all wore the same shade of powder blue. I am pretty sure it was not the only time senior and other royals seemed to co-ordinate and wear the same colours.

TBW, on the contrary, ignored the memo and would wear another colour to stand out, like at the christening.

I think courtiers are so tired of the stream of nonsense coming out of their mouths that no one is bothering to point out the lies and the contradictions, and people are just moving on.
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By the way, I think the rant from Jeremy Clarkson was unnecessary and lacking in the witty use of words he used to display in his columns. But it is an indication of just how annoyed people are, and they have the right to say so.
Sandie said…
Korneuburgerin
38m
That's why they will never get one. Nobody knows what they should apologize for.

Picture Kate saying: Do they mean apologize for when I burnt the pot roast? William: No, maybe they mean when I didn't let him win at polo. Charles: I'm guessing when I didn't give him the duchy of Cornwall, could that be it? Camilla: No, I think it was when I said no when he wanted to dress up as Hitler again. Andrew: I know! It was when you paid to make my little problem go away but told Haz you out of money now!

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/zp5e8w/ngozi_fulani_got_an_apology_where_is_ours_harry/

The comment on Reddit had me chuckling. Maybe it will become a meme!
Girl with a Hat said…
this is funny and quite to the point:

https://twitter.com/MDymore/status/1604568386188492804
Opus said…
Well of course I am completely out-of-touch with what goes on west of the Atlantic, and I reassure myself that it surely cannot be as bad as the MSM persuades me that it probably is. I take that view on the basis of the nonsense that is sometimes sent in my direction by those on the west Atlantic as to the state of the British Isles, but really! - to me: receipt of an e-card would be the equivalent of pressing a button on my laptop (or if I had one a mobile phone). I am I would think worth, to the sender, just that and nothing more indeed I would think I had been insulted as if I had been damned with feint (faint?) praise.

I know that Xmas is not so big a thing in America as in England where stretching festivities out for two weeks is usually a doddle but when I hear endearments such as Happy Holidays I cringe; there is a reason for the celebrations and it is not just the passing of the winter solstice and whatever ones religious beliefs the correct term (I am looking at you Earl Dumbarton) is Merry Christmas.
HappyDays said…
Hi All. H.G.Tudor has eight new videos today dissecting and analyzing the second three installments of the Sussex Netflix package plus some other videos discussing aspects on how the series affects Harry and Meghan. Just look for H. G. Tudor on youtube. He has her narcissism and their relationship sussed quite well.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/MaggieMobrules/status/1601710467302367233

this is the story of * being caught taking pictures inside Kensington Palace.
Rebecca said…
I would expect Anderson Cooper to be soft on Harry. Cooper is what I would describe as a “libtard”; I would expect him to be sympathetic to the republican cause. He and Andy Cohen, both gay men with children, co-host the annual New Year’s Eve telecast from Times Square in New York. I’ve never watched them but last year they caused a kerfuffle by getting drunk on air.
Hikari said…
Re. Ngozi-Gate

What a tempest has been created in this teapot agitated by this smug poseur of a “charity director” in her tatty Wakanda costume. The more the Palace tries to patch it up by sucking up to the Wokies, the more ammunition they give the opposition. The fact that William rang in with his scathing remarks against his godmother just inflates the opposition’s claim of offended grievance even more. They are delighted at having discomfited the senior royals into making such a public display of groveling. Lady Susan being sent for “re-education” sounds positively communistic. Very Manchuria Candidate-esque.

The picture of Lady Susan and the ersatz Ngozi was actually quite nice. Lady Hussey is a real lady, gracious in the face of such humiliation. Does sending her for re-education mean she us to be reinstated in her role? Is keeping her unpaid job as the QC’s companion worth it?

Lady Susan works for Camilla, so any statement about the incident should by rights have come from Camilla’s office at Clarence House. Why was William sticking his oar in? Since he was in Boston when it happened, someone in Blighty obviously advised him about it. Did he consult with his father prior to excoriating his godmother for an exchange he only heard about third-hand? One supposes the King has bigger fish to fry; has KCIII deputized William to deal with anything Sussex-adjacent? KC doesn’t want Camilla in the crosshairs, but any statement really should have come from her. Lady Hussey does not have any sort of operational role in Palace administration. She does not set policy. She does not write speeches. She is not a senior adviser. She is a genteel lady greeting people at a reception. She wasn’t even in charge of the guest list. She is innocuous, as were her questions to the aggrieved. Having Kensington Palace and William get involved elevated a small flap at a ladies’ tea party into an institutional failure, and created an international incident— Exactly what Ngozi and her handler wanted.

The invitation to Marlene to come back for a photo op is an attempt at clean-up by the Palace. Let’s hope we hear no more about this silly fracas over nothing. It would have been even better if some of the clients from Sistah Space had been invited to accompany Marlene for tea with Lady Susan and Queen Camilla, where the conversation could deftly have been turned back to the women who are being helped, and not on Marlene’s pique at being questioned about her provenance. But due to Marlene’s attention grabbing polarizing stunt, along with a number of unanswered fiscal irregularities, it looks like Sistah Space’s days are numbered. Oh, dear Ngozi, oh dear. Markled ourselves, have we?

Lady Susan didn’t want to end her 60 years of service on that sour note, and I don’t blame her. Being the bigger person always means being humble enough to concede, even when not at fault. Killing them with undeserved kindness. An invitation to the coronation for the traitorous tossers will be in the same vein. When your opponent is spoiling for a fight, refusing to give them one is more infuriating than giving it back to them.

Lady Hussey was the Queen’s rock after the death of Philip, accompanying HM to the Duke’s funeral and often seen with the Queen in the car going to church. Let’s hope William has apologized to his godmother for what he felt compelled to say.
Rebecca said…
A few articles appeared today at The Telegraph. I’m not sure they’re worth posting:

How ‘princess syndrome’ shapes Meghan’s world – and why that appeals to Prince Harry
With a need to be persecuted, victimised and rescued, it’s as if the Duchess of Sussex was written by the Brothers Grimm

To Britain, it’s arrogance – to us, it’s ambition’: How America reacted to Harry & Meghan
For many stateside, the Sussexes are sympathetic figures rejected by a traditional institution – but others in the US grow weary of the pair

Prince Harry ‘should make the first move to seek reconciliation with the Royal family’
Buckingham Palace sources said the Duke of Sussex knows how to get in touch if he wants to repair the fractured relationship
Anonymous said…
@GWAH.... didn't a secret service agent get in big trouble for taking a picture of President Trumps grandsonson sleeping on a car ride. It was big news and people went ballistic, as I recall. M would garnish the same level of disdain and hysteria from the public if true. Considering her own lawsuit regarding A privacy while being walked by Doria would amplify her hypocrisy.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/news/a9969/secret-service-agents-selfies-donald-trump-sleeping-grandson/
Martha said…
Hear Hear, Hikari! I thank you for expressing what I could not.
OCGal said…
Interesting tea!
https://smokemirrorsmontecitosfauxroyals.quora.com/New-Tea-Unfortunately-I-cant-share-everything-that-I-have-learned-but-I-know-you-are-all-smart-enough-to-understand-wh?ch=10&oid=92993514&share=2de8d696&srid=XF8eL&target_type=post
NeutralObserver said…
@Hikari, Great post on Lady Hussey.
Blogger Maneki Neko said...
@Wild Boar

Oops! Apologies for misspelling your name at 8.00 pm (typo

No problem! - it's nothing compared how my real name gets mangled!
Lilibet Diana's `Christening'.

It's being implied, or reported very obliquely, that LDMW has been baptised in the US. Is there any truth in this, does anyone know?

It is appears that the Harkles released this photo at:

https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/60235713756773644/


`Harry and Meghan reselased (sic) their Daughter Lilibet Diana Mountbatten Windsor first picture. Taken at her christening in America. She wears a beautiful christening dress.
#Harryandmeghan #lilibetDiana #christeningdress'


Image address:
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ca/e0/63/cae0631328eee4e911a29126c5897b9e.jpg

Elsewhere, the image appears as an advert at:
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/908671662368604699/

captioned as:

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Well, well, well. As ever nothing is as it seems with her `parents'.

(I tracked this down from a comment which I failed to get a link for, and then couldn't find again, but it gave me enough clues to fond it)

Which came first - the `christening photo' or the ad? Did they just pinch someone else's photo or have they created copies as a merching tactic, or is somebody trolling them?
@HappyDays,

I have posted links and and info regarding HG Tudor on this blog many times. His content is fabulous, he’s either a self diagnosed or diagnosed sociopathic narcissist, but an evolved one who helps individuals deal with his kind as he puts it. 😁
Good comment at NY Post:

“Meghan is the worst thing we’ve done to the British since 1776.”
Sandie said…
Have a handful of salt on hand ... tarot readings:

"harry’s energy: currently he sees his wife meghan being in a fit of hysterics and madness, he sees his (her) jealousy and his (her) feelings transform into rage (silence of the brief) he observes meghan’s mental imbalance.
He moved away from her while waiting for her to come to her senses, he is with the children far from her, currently the communication around the sussex comes from meghan.

with the tarots, the losses resulting from their documentary always continue to rage, and continue to drive meghan mad, there is a departure, a situation or a behavior which is brought to light, a war is declared on Charles (they hope to obtain Something)"

https://mysteriouslytransparentwitch.tumblr.com/post/704005721510068224/energy-harry-tarot-oracle

"meghan energy; yeah, she’s in the middle of a crisis, she can’t stand the silence of the brf, she’s determined to go to war with the brf, she’s heartbroken to see that her actions don’t affect the schedule of the brf (I believe that the success of the visit of william and catherine + the silence of the brief) it’s too much for her, emotionally, she will do something in not very long, I have a notion of speed, except that she will closing doors and possibilities.

with the tarots: meghan is mentally disturbed, she can’t stand this situation, she’s going to take or do something stupid without thinking, she thinks it’s going to be a new start for her, she hopes a lot except that it’s going to end badly for her, this end will be difficult, it will be brutal"

https://mysteriouslytransparentwitch.tumblr.com/post/704003690404659200/meghan-energy-tarot-oracle

"energy of King Charles 3; ok there is abundance and a lot of sweetness around Charles, I feel the presence of children around him, his heart filled with joy and love, sweetness and laughter (little louis, we see you) ok , we have something happening that will allow Charles to see an exit, this storm comes from Meghan, she is angry because she gets nothing from the brf except her silence, she is completely crazy right now , she wants to obtain power, titles and money from the brf, but her plot will allow Charles to advance his pawns, it seems…

with the tarots: we have the couple (h&m) yes there is something which arrives, which will attack the brf but which will be disastrous for h&m they will be able to release charles in its action."

https://mysteriouslytransparentwitch.tumblr.com/post/704003044357095424/king-charles-3-energy-tarot-oracle
Maneki Neko said…
@Hikari

Very good post about Ngozi-Gate. I feel William, Lady Susan's godson, swift statement was a knee-jerk reaction but this little to-do coming just after the poisonous Netflix docu-soap, I think he/the Palace felt they had to address this case of so-called racism. I don't think Lady Susan will be reinstated and Marlene/Ngozi could have asked for the 'sanction' to be lifted. I'm sure privately Lady Susan still has Camilla's support.
Sandie said…
https://smokemirrorsmontecitosfauxroyals.quora.com/New-Tea-Unfortunately-I-cant-share-everything-that-I-have-learned-but-I-know-you-are-all-smart-enough-to-understand-wh?ch=2&oid=92993514&share=2de8d696&srid=XF8eL&target_type=post

Buckets of tea ... what do you think?

Under the post, there is a great discussion on the tea and how reliable it is.

Maneki Neko said…
Excellent article in the DM: Veteran actress Sheila Hancock says public displays of feeling have become fashionable

No mention of a certain actress in California but very true and very apt. Excerpts:

The British now feel it is ‘obligatory’ to express emotion in public rather than maintain a ‘stiff upper lip,’ Dame Sheila Hancock has said.

The actress, 89, said that public displays of feeling have become fashionable, with crying viewed as a ‘badge of honour’.
. . .
But now the obsession with showing your feelings at all times has become ‘hollow and meaningless’, she added.

‘How has being emotional become obligatory? Since when was it a badge of honour to cry?’ she wrote in Prospect magazine.

‘When I was young, being brave meant hiding your tears. Through bombing, separation, threat of invasion, hunger and death, the ethos of the “stiff upper lip” and “grin and bear it” prevailed.
A precept that TBW would do well to follow.




Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11552511/Royal-Family-left-baffled-Harry-Meghans-reported-demands-apology.html

In my opinion, no one in the BRF owes them an apology. The following could be appropriate: 'I am so sorry that you are unhappy and filled with grievances and resentment and a desire for revenge for perceived slights. I hope that you can get out of this negative space and rebuild a loving and trusting relationship with your families.'

The message in the above article just invites engagement (really bad when dealing with toxic malignant narcissists) and encourages them to continue on their present path.
Online Telegraph article from a couple of weeks ago, looking at their corporate backers:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/12/06/harry-meghan-self-pity-partys-corporate-backers-will-pay-price/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

I love this comment:

`There is more appealing life to be found in a piece of rotting cheese.

Thank you, Elizabeth Prior
abbyh said…
DM has an article about possible KC paying for the Prince Andrew's pulled security.

General belief is that there isn't a lot of love lost between the two, so why this now

but I can already hear the claims of why not us too from Montecito?

Might it have conditional terms like only in the UK IF (and that's a big if) there is any validity to it?

Could this be just taunting (intended or not)? One of the problems with viewing the press as this awful lens is that anything said by them is always filtered through it and when you have gone out of your way to let your feelings be known, they don't exactly have to always play nice on their side to suck up when they know it won't do any good.

I kind of think there is a cobbling together two things, removal of the protection and the duo are in the news plus this is a known hot topic for them. But it could always be any, all or none of the above.

Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

The christening photo looks nothing like Lilibet, in my opinion. Certainly nothing like the photos we've seen purporting to be of her. Do we even know what she really looks like?
Sandie said…
HG Tudor
I have listened to quite a few of his videos. He tends to repeat the same stuff over and over again. What I found most interesting, however, is that he classifies her as a mid-range narcissist. If I understand him correctly, this means that she is completely unaware of what 'drives her' and thus is actually more dangerous. She is convinced that she is honest and caring and brilliant and right and powerful and knows everything and will triumph ... hence she keeps doing the same stuff and escalates rather than self-corrects. That is why nothing is ever her fault.

I have not listened to HG Tudor in quite a while. What does he have to say about the hold she has over the hapless one and the likelihood of the 'spell' being broken? He must be aware that she lies, that she exaggerates her own abilities, that she is ruthless with using and discarding other people, and much more. He has even let her merch the children in the documentary. Tarot readers and various others on social media are adamant that the couple are heading for a breaking point and that he will take the children and leave her. What would it take for that to happen?

Personally, I do not think that will ever happen. She does not even care if he fools around with other women, as long as he stays by her side when she requires him to be there, holding her hand and supporting her in whatever she says and does. Plus, he is surrounded by people who reinforce her brainwashing, including the shady live-in mother-in-law.

@Sandie,

Some of the smoke and mirrors stuff on that link was a bit outlandish.

The Queen was notorious for being non confrontational, so banging on the Duo’s door is unthinkable! I also don’t buy either few or no peerage being invited to the coronation. 🫤

Otherwise an interesting read and thank you!
Sandie said…
@WBBM
That is not Lilli in the photograph. The SussexSquad do crazy stuff like this ... find a photo, create a story, and post it as if it is of the family that they worship.

Americans ... in America, can a child be christened at home? I was christened at home (there was not a church in our village at the time and the priest would visit once a month and conduct whatever religious ceremony in a home). I think in the UK it must be done in a church and is open to the congregation (and thus the public). Royals tend to use churches that are difficult for the public to access, like the private chapel in Windsor Castle or the one in St James' Palace. I also assume that it is custom that prevents members of the public from barging in for a royal wedding, christening or funeral.
Elskainga said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYgZooPJ72A

Twitter responds to allegations by Christopher Bouzy that MM was attacked by hate Twitter accounts. Twitter says researched their files and no evidence of this. Another provable lie!

Nate the Lawyer is suing Bouzy for defamation who reportedly continued to spread lies that Nate was not a real lawyer nor was he ever a cop, undermining Nate’s ability to have a career. Nate’s case is solid. Btw, Nate is a lawyer.😃🤣

Video is ~17 minutes in length
Elskainga said…
I needed to add regarding Nate the Lawyer’s video that unlike what was said in the fictional series by H &M, there was no coordinated bot attacks against MM. Bouzy claims a 95% accuracy rate in finding trolls and bots and he was found to actually have a 7% accuracy rate on Twitter but is still cited as an “ expert”. MM did hire Bouzy to get negative accts removed. She is very thin-skinned.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/zpr3sr/gone_cruising_in_the_bahamas/

They were spotted in the Bahamas, on a yacht.
Sandie said…
https://archive.vn/2022.12.19-065555/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/94a39d94-7f09-11ed-bc2d-0c63022989a8?shareToken=15f1a34ed7a1739645b3944f2befe4f8

Brilliant article! Unfortunately, it will not be read and understood by most and the madness will continue.
OKay said…
The "Smoke and Mirrors" post has been deleted. Can anyone who's read it give us a summary?
@maneki & @Sandie

Of course, that's not the child we have been shown as `Lilibet'! I was pulling your leg.

The pretty little redhead may be somebody else and this is the real Lilibet. Or she's a child model employed for the dress photoshoot and they've used someone else's photo. The `real' Lilibet, if she exists, may be none of the above, or this really is her...

You pays your money and you takes your choice.

CofE baptism can take place anywhere; in an emergency anybody can perform the service. We've had several infants `done' during morning Mass in my parish church - the Rector conducts the service but it's been a family member who has signed the cross on the child, the mother, father or young sibling. This may have originated recently as a Covid precaution.

There are 2 rules only: water and the Trinitarian formula have both to be used, so the act is done `...in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost'. In a home-birth emergency, with a new born that seems to be at death's door, midwives have been known to baptise using the kitchen sink.

To be on the safe side, it's regarded as `provisional baptism' on the assumption that it was done properly but the ceremony is repeated formally later, in case there was a mistake!
Opus said…
Hikari puts it very well. I loved the reference to Wakanda.

It seems to me that any employer - and for these purposes the PoW is an employer - should never publicly ball-out a member of staff (whatever might be said in private). Publicly shaming an employee is beneath contempt for that is to use ones staff for ones own purposes. An employer rightly expects an employee to - as it were - leave the affairs of the business at the office and in like manner an employer should keep the affairs of the firm especially where it relates to an employee private. To have trashed an eighty-three year old woman is beneath contempt.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/zpe57z/tea_from_smoke_and_mirrors_part_1_17_points/

The above us a thread discussing the Smoke and Mirrors 'tea'. Scroll through the puts as some of the original 'tea' is copied and pasted into comments.

I wonder what got them so riled up about this 'tea'?

It is originally from a Quora post. Here is the latest link:

https://archive.vn/2022.12.19-013554/https://smokemirrorsmontecitosfauxroyals.quora.com/New-Tea-Unfortunately-I-cant-share-everything-that-I-have-learned-but-I-know-you-are-all-smart-enough-to-understand-wh?ch=2&oid=92993514&share=2de8d696&srid=XF8eL&target_type=post
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/zpe57z/tea_from_smoke_and_mirrors_part_1_17_points/

The above us a thread discussing the Smoke and Mirrors 'tea'. Scroll through the puts as some of the original 'tea' is copied and pasted into comments.

I wonder what got them so riled up about this 'tea'?

It is originally from a Quora post. Here is the latest link:

https://archive.vn/2022.12.19-013554/https://smokemirrorsmontecitosfauxroyals.quora.com/New-Tea-Unfortunately-I-cant-share-everything-that-I-have-learned-but-I-know-you-are-all-smart-enough-to-understand-wh?ch=2&oid=92993514&share=2de8d696&srid=XF8eL&target_type=post
snarkyatherbest said…
Hmmm i saw somewhere over the weekend (can’t remember where) that Bower is working on a sequel. some other things he has to reveal but said he wanted to be sure these are iron clad and able to defend in a lawsuit. i am sure a lot of stuff we have rumored (alleged surrogate, funny funneling of funds) are things he’s looking into. and why not. salacious stuff will sell books and may expose them further !! go bower go!

so rumors that prince louis maybe doing the church walk. i saw someone mention would it be great if he ran up held grandpa’s hand
Maneki Neko said…
@OKay

Here is the smoke & mirror post. Part 1

New Tea: Unfortunately I can't share everything that I have learned but I know you are all smart enough to understand what I'm saying.

* King Charles III has become a huge problem/hindrance for this whole situation.
* He doesn't and won't close any doors on Harry.
* Prince William wants to see how Harry is once he gets away from that woman!
* KC3 wants a relationship but won't accept it is lost.
* Harry has been making trips over to see his father and try to plan a way out for him and the children. There are a lot of stipulations that go with this scenario. The ONLY WAY THIS WORKS IS IF MEGHAN IS NEVER ALLOWED BACK IN, AT ALL!
* The MAJOR concern that I know has been questioned on here is what or is Harry being given or taken. The concern is that something will happen to him not by his own doing, but planned by 2 others to get everything. This is a SERIOUS AND REAL CONCERN!
* There are two scenarios for Harry, Meghan, and the children to go to the UK. It is being planned that way for a reason.
* I know KCIII doesn’t get it, he really doesn’t understand PH and thinks he can ‘straighten it out.’ POW’s want PH to be separated from the TW to see if there anything to salvage, hence why he will be put into local exile. His biggest heartbreak is the children.
* They know everything that has been done or is being done and have professionals watching/weighing in/and advising even Harry on certain mental health concerns and conditions, not just of his.
* There was a huge issue because QEII literally knocked on their door and demanded in. That was part of the reason MM wanted out of the UK. Because when HMTQ knocks, you have to let her in. She just wanted to see her great grandchild.
* MM was exceedingly cruel to HMTQ, KCIII and PW, but she is the same with her family.
* Meghan also wanted to go to Balmoral when The Queen was dying so she could get pictures.
* He is going to piss off the entire peerage system in the UK and that is his base support. The palace courtiers job is to advise the King on such matters.
* He is also planning on cutting out most of the peerage from the ceremony which is a huge huge mistake.
* Most of the courtiers and staff are extremely unhappy with KCIII and his refusal to put up boundaries with his son and the fact that a coronation is a state affair not a family party. But again this may just be his way of getting his son and grandchildren home.
* The major concern is that KC3 essentially ruin the Monarchy and still end up without one son bc he either won't come home or bc something nefarious happens to him.
* One thing the palace may have forgotten is that this has to take place at the coronation.
Maneki Neko said…
@OKay

It said the author had deleted the post but somehow I found it. I think some of the statements need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Part 2

* I have said before that if Harry returns to the UK he will be required to see a psychiatrist.
* The couple also have a prenuptial agreement and as I've stated with DivorceWatch2023 there is a new pre-seperation agreement in order.
* When the book bombs it will change from DivorceWatch2023 to DivorceWarning2023.
* Ngozi Fumani (Marlene) is in a lot of trouble! It wasn't just her behind this idea, but the Lead Sussex Head and allegedly Meghan.
* Her charity and everything else she has touched is being investigated as we speak! She is likely facing criminal charges.
* The people who need to know, know. But Bouzy, the Squad, and whoever hired him and paid them are going to be exposed.
* It will be known they suppressed our Freedom of Speech and there will be a domino effect from this. Their leader will be exposed, even though it is known who it is.
* The money schemes and scams that were being run at the start of the marriage up until now are known and the IRS are biding their time. There was a lot of money laundering.
* The investigations and closing of charities and businesses will last years. It is a huge deal.
* I have been told that nothing is going to be done until after everything comes out, that way they can make the best and most informed decisions.
* The Royal Family is taking a breather during the holidays and just enjoying the time together.
Maneki Neko said…
Now Harry and Meghan are presenting a series on 'inspiring leaders': Netflix rolls out trailer for its new docu-series voiced by royal couple that features Nelson Mandela, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Greta Thunberg and is released on December 31

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11554709/Now-Harry-Meghan-presenting-documentary-inspiring-leaders.html

Another Netflix docu-sh¡te, as if we didn't have our fill of the Harkles' twaddle. 'Inspiring leaders', do we need those two to tell us? And Greta does not inspire me (and many others). Inspiring leaders is what TBW wants to be, or worse, thinks she is.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/camilla-lunch-jeremy-clarkson-piers-mogan-meghan-b2247811.html

Anger mounts over Camilla lunch attended by Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan
Mon, 19 December 2022 at 1:49 pm GMT

Grossly unfair.
Camilla isn’t a clairvoyant - Clarkson had said nothing wrong when he was invited.
Not a word about H & * trashing that other woman, our 96yr-old, dying, Queen. Or do only `young’ ones of certain political views count?

They make me sick.
Hikari said…
@Maneki

The attitudes attributed to Charles in the tea post don’t really jibe with Harry saying “My father won’t take my calls” and Charles wishing his son and wife all the best “overseas”. I see so many posts claiming to know exactly what Charles state of mind is and is intentions, labeling him a “Simp“, declaring that he’s going to give Duke of Edinburgh to Harry and reinstall the ginger Twatt to active service, blah blah blah. His actual words and demeanor thus far do not indicate any of this. I do not expect him to publicly denounce Spare, And as galling as it may be, I don’t expect him to revoke the titles either. I’m sure an invitation to the Coronation will be forthcoming as well. KCIII seems to be following in TQ’s footsteps of choosing the path of least drama. Blandly and vaguely acknowledging them as “family” while ignoring them as much as possible. I wouldn’t confuse this with actual support of Bimbo and Chimpo. It remains to be seen what poisonous bilge will be vented in Spare’s book, Particularly about Camilla, but the Crown’ s most potent weapon is silence. I think it would be a mistake for the palace to acknowledge a single item in the Netflix program or the book. More effective to quietly lift the super injunction on the media and let them tear strips off B &C while leaving no fingerprints. If Charles wants to ensure that he is the last King of the House of Windsor, kowtowing to Chimpo would certainly help that along. Charles studied history; is he that stupid?

I will leave that as a rhetorical question, but I certainly hope not. Until the recent Ngozi debacle, he was off to a brilliant start. Let’s not spoil it, Your Majesty.
SwampWoman said…
I thought KCIII doesn't issue the invitations; that is up to the man that does the planning for the ceremonies. An awful lot of leaking from formerly tight lips in that smoke and mirrors post.

Re the fear that 'something' may happen to Harry, didn't Doria's father die under cloudy circumstances (his dog allegedly tripped him) and Doria conveniently inherited the house?

My opinion is that Harry is going to be an ongoing problem no matter who has custody of him, whether it is his wife/handler/manipulator or his father/sibling.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11554709/Now-Harry-Meghan-presenting-documentary-inspiring-leaders.html

This is truly shocking ... how dare they seek glory for themselves by using these people? Nelson Mandela? Albie Sachs? And it goes on ...
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/kinseyschofield/status/1604715428647165953

the twat performing a curtsy during her stint in Suits.
Sandie said…
And he claims the Spencer heritage as his alone ...

https://twitter.com/JenCarsonTaylor/status/1604515566462861313

This is not good!

By the way, the documentary is a collaboration with the Nelson Mandela Foundation. I think they had a huge influence on the content. I have downloaded the latest annual report for the Foundation but the quality is too low for me to nake out the details of financials.
Maneki Neko said…
Good pits Madam in her place:

‘There are always people who are never going to be happy’: Toronto police chief hits out at Meghan as he rejects claim his force failed to protect her when she started dating Harry

* Police Chief James Ramer has responded to claims made by Duchess of Sussex
* She alleged that officers did little to protect her when she was living in Toronto
* But Mr Ramer has insisted his officers 'did an excellent job' ensuring her safety
* He also added: 'There are always people who are never going to be happy.'
. . .
He told the Toronto Sun newspaper: ‘I was deputy chief at the time, in charge of the special enforcement command that oversaw that situation, and can tell you the officers did an excellent job.

‘Our officers were extremely professional. I oversaw the area that protected VIPs and I fully support the work they did there.’
..........
TBW was not known in Toronto, whatever she might say, so she wasn't pursued by paparazzi. He's also right when he says that 'There are always people who are never going to be happy.'
Elskainga said…
Neil Sean is said to have contacted Beyonce’s representatives and her team has no recollection of Beyonce sending the text to MM filmed during their series. Perhaps Beyonce did text this (or not) but is now distancing herself from MM. Another A-lister who the Disastrous Duo have alienated.


Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2022.12.19-163615/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/19/opinion/harry-meghan-monarchy.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Wow ... talk about American arrogance! I suppose the New York Times is full of stuff like this.
Sandie said…
Picked this up on social media: it is made up of mostly stock footage and was completed in 2020. The duo bought it from the Nelson Mandela Foundation, inserted themselves as narrators (writing their own script) and then sold it to Netflix as part of their deal.
Sandie said…
https://64.media.tumblr.com/80a5beee6201c604f79e30a7d92f12e1/22e36144be306245-91/s640x960/156828244a85a64e3fb57b6f3405a2b547aad8e5.png

Interesting ... Neil Sean says every scene was rehearsed and for some there were multiple takes.
Sandie said…
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Sandie said…
https://www.newsweek.com/meghan-markle-curtsy-suits-netflix-prince-harry-1768132

Caught out on another lie.

What disturbs me most is that young people support her and are experts online so they know how many lies have been exposed but do not seem to care.
OKay said…
Thank you @Sandie and @Maneki!
Maneki Neko said…
@Hikari

I agree with your post upthread re the attitudes attributed to Charles in the tea post. I was only copying & pasting. I've come to the conclusion that for the time being, it's more prudent for Charles not to rock the boat. Denouncing the Harkles' accusations would only invite a counterattack from them.

@Sandie

There was another article in the DM today about the NY Times. Absolutely sickening and deranged.

NYTimes sparks outrage over opinion piece demanding that Britain's 'racist' Royal Family is dismantled and suggesting 'beacon' Meghan had to pay with 'her life' to marry into the institution

Article is the latest by the New York Times to criticize the UK
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The article in the NYT is by a Roxane Gay. Surprise, surprise, she's a 'person of colour', so will blindly defend her 'sister'.
I couldn't read any more of that piece of garbage. I presume the NYT is woke?
SwampwlWoman said,

I thought KCIII doesn't issue the invitations; that is up to the man that does the planning for the ceremonies..

The despicable duo would like people in America think that, it isn’t the case. It’s actually quite personal. For William’s wedding he had a say in who attended from friends and family. He had to invite the other royal families and other dignitaries, but it’s far more personal after that. The King’s coronation will no doubt have the dignitaries as well, but regard to family, that’s his choice. Lady C said Edward VIII expected an invitation to his brother’s coronation, it wasn’t forthcoming! 😁
Sandie said…
The series was called 'I know This To Be True'. The duo have inserted themselves and renamed it 'Live To Lead', implying that it is about leadership.

Gretha Thurnberg and Gloria Steinman are not leaders; they are activists. Waleed Aly is a lecturer and TV personality. Stephen Curry is a basketball player ... very impressive guy but a leader? Siya Kolisi is a rugby player but also the captain of the national team and led the team to World Cup victory. These are all impressive, exceptional and inspiring people, but not all of them for leadership. (Those I have not mentioned obviously were or are leaders.)

It is like her podcast ... she misuses a term to suit her agenda. I am perhaps being too draconian about the definition of leadership, but I just get the feeling that they inserted this word because they want to be assiciated with it and not because it fits the series.
SwampWoman said…
Sandie said: Blogger Sandie said...
https://archive.ph/2022.12.19-163615/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/19/opinion/harry-meghan-monarchy.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Wow ... talk about American arrogance! I suppose the New York Times is full of stuff like this.


New York Times has been the American Communist Party News for a very long time.
Girl with a Hat said…
netflix documentaries are shown free on other platforms, like that documentary My Octopus Teacher. So, not really a money earner for Netflix.

Teasmade said…
I wouldn't say that Roxane Gay is representative of the New York Times OR Americans. She is very divisive and is a, we have an expression over here that could be translated as "manure-disturber." I rarely read her. She is WAY out there.

Humor Me said…
What a web!
My two cents from the above posts:
~ Lady Hussey wanted to meet with Marlene herself. The apology was not from BP - it was from Lady H to Marlene. Marlene mouthing off on National TV is what drew the attention to the charity. How the Harkles drew that the Palace apologized to Marlene therefore they will apologize to us....is beyond me.
~ Of course * wants to be involved in the talks - this IS her life with H and she is being shut out. She must have really been p.o.'d at being shut out of the Sandringham Summitt, and one can drew their own conclusions regarding H to Balmoral when HMTQ was dying.
~ KCIII wants a reconcilation. I believe that. So who is King - Charles or Harry, as this is about control.
CatEyes said…
I just saw on the Tucker Carlson TV show that * was used as an example of who could benefit from the State of California proposal to give hundreds of thousands of dollars to each person who has * race (not white) as reparations to compensate descendants of slaves. He made a point that she would get this big money even though she is wealthy and a Duchess of a foreign country. On Fox Nation channel, her and Harry are routinely excorciated for what, say and act (as in the Documisery.)
Rebecca said…
The New York Times has become America’s answer to Pravda.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11555105/NYTimes-opinion-piece-suggests-Meghan-pay-life-marry-Royal-Family.html

DM is late to the party! I suppose the publication of articles such as this is the price we pay for freedom of speech. The alternative, which the woke fanatically pursue, is to embrace fascism and oppression, which is really not good for humanity. What I find most disturbing is that many, including the youth, embrace such views even in the absence of evidence and when all evidence shows that it is not true.

Mandela would never support the divisive and destructive sentiments and views the idiots pair encourage; nor would he approve of their lavish material lifestyle.
Sandie said…
https://the-cat-with-the-emerald-tiara-1.tumblr.com/post/704123675777089536/wow-mother-jones-even-bashing-it

On the other hand, the review posted at the link above is supposedly from a liberal media outlet. I am relieved that true liberals do still exist.
Maneki Neko said…
@Teasmade

I like your expression "manure-disturber", it's very colourful! You could also say shit-stirrer, which in *' case is very apt.


@Humor Me

KCIII wants a reconcilation. I believe that. So who is King - Charles or Harry, as this is about control.
.....
I think Charles does want a reconciliation as a father. I believe he is very sensitive and must be hurting to have lost his son. It's only natural. That said, it doesn't follow that he wants him back in the fold as a royal. As a son who is not involved in the RF in any shape or form, yes but not as a working royal. I'd say William is rather involved behind the scenes and wouldn't countenance H's possible return to royal life.
Maneki Neko said…
In need of image rehabilitation?

'Prince Harry and Meghan Markle announce they have 'organised Christmas gifts for more than 30 reunified and refugee families' at the US and Mexico border'.

Did they dip their hands into their pockets? (Rhetorical question). What about gifts to Thomas Markle? Anyway, true philanthropists keep their donations quiet.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11557463/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-organise-gifts-reunified-refugee-families-border.html

I always get the sense that they do these stunts to get attention and bolster their false image.

Lovely to make sure vulnerable and people in dire straits get Christmas presents, but why make a big announcement? If they need to be accountable to people who gave them the money they are using for stunts like this, then make detailed annual reports and financial statements available.

The royal family do have to announce what they do because they serve the British public and are financially supported by the public to do so. PR is part of it (and my personal opinion is that they sometimes get too caught up in this aspect), but it is mostly about accountability.

I think the duo and their supporters do not understand the difference.

Millions of people all over the world help others every day and do not make a public announcement nor look for recognition and praise. Churches have made it their business to do just that for hundreds of years.

I really am disturbed about the example they set and the values they teach the selfie generation.
Sandie said…
She gave another version of the miscarriage story (through Abigail Spencer). They keep changing their story and tell so many lies that I can't keep up.

This version has her collapsing on the driveway as she went to greet her friend who arrived to stay.
Elskainga said…
Stephen Curry is presently under fire for advertising for FTX and being paid lots of $$$ . FTX was a cryptocurrency exchange and storage site that promised your crypto coins would never be touched until you were ready to cash them in. Well, it has be revealed that the CEO, Sam Bankman-Fried had used customers’ money right from the beginning to purchase properties, cars, donations to a political part, gambling in the market , etc. Curry, along with other celebrities like Tom Brady, will face investigation, lawsuits and $$ clawbacks.

The NYTimes is hanging on by a financial thread. Every year I read of layoffs and the corporation has had to rent space in their building to pay for taxes, etc. It no longer has the status as the newspaper of record owing to their obvious political bias.
Maneki Neko said, I think Charles does want a reconciliation as a father. I believe he is very sensitive and must be hurting to have lost his son. It's only natural. That said, it doesn't follow that he wants him back in the fold as a royal. As a son who is not involved in the RF in any shape or form, yes but not as a working royal. I'd say William is rather involved behind the scenes and wouldn't countenance H's possible return to royal life.

I absolutely believe the King wants Mole back within the family, Lady C has been saying this too. However, I also agree it absolutely doesn’t mean he’d ever have a public royal role again. I don’t think the royal family desire it and the British public wouldn’t stand for it. 🫤
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkd5PlyaqnY

Yankee Wally back on youtube and on twitter - @yankeewally2

Yay! the bad guys lose another inning!
snarkyatherbest said…
Hmmmm. the king records his Christmas speech. BBC brought in at the last minute replacing an ITV crew. a few hours later it is reported that for the UK interview for the Spare Tire goes to ITV and the reporter who brought us “Im not ok so you’re not on” africa interview. good smack down your majesty. on UK ground it’s ok to be punitive for people enabling the couple. there is hope for him
Sandie said…
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-and-meghan-netflix-live-to-lead-jacinda-ardern-8sblc6n9p

Jacinda Arden makes it quite clear that her involvement in the latest documentary had nothing to do with the duo, who 'hijacked' the project at a very late stage.
DesignDoctor said…
@snarky

Good on Charles! I think there definitely is hope for him if he made this move.
SwampWoman said…
Maneki Neko said...
In need of image rehabilitation?

'Prince Harry and Meghan Markle announce they have 'organised Christmas gifts for more than 30 reunified and refugee families' at the US and Mexico border'.

Did they dip their hands into their pockets? (Rhetorical question). What about gifts to Thomas Markle? Anyway, true philanthropists keep their donations quiet.


And yet they live in California, a place where the division between the people that are wealthy beyond avarice and the poorest of the poor with increasingly few in between is horrific. They can't be bothered to do anything to alleviate the poverty where they actually LIVE. They have security guards to shoo away the poor. Oh, you're going to help 30 illegal invader families? What about the well-being of the families in California whose jobs are being legislated out of existence?
Sandie said…
https://youtu.be/eZLD1HGqomg

Next installment of analysis of mockumentary coming up from The Behaviour Panel. These guys are experts but are usually fair.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/Knesix/status/1605244101577871361

Jacinda Ardern makes it clear that her implication was with the Nelson Mandela Foundation. She never spoke or was implicated with the *s.
Rebecca said…
@SwampWoman
“ Oh, you're going to help 30 illegal invader families? What about the well-being of the families in California whose jobs are being legislated out of existence?”
_____

Yes, exactly! 🤬
Sandie said…
The donated Christmas gifts: I think it was about three dozen. They state that they organised the gifts not that they actually paid for them (but they are so evasive with use of language so maybe they just used the wrong words to try and sound grand). They did this through an organization with a very long name. They like to hitch their wagon briefly to an organization that is already set up, to get publicity. They were probably searching for an organization online and liked the sound of this one, for whatever reason, hence they did not choose one working in LA. Thinking of who is actually in need and what they can actually do to make a difference seems to be beyond them. They also do not seem to identify with an actual community in LA. Quite sad.

The Body Language Panel video has been posted. It is long-winded but has some gems so stick with it. They picked up body language signals from him that the chance of divorce is very high. I found that interesting but I have always thought that the relationship is toxic but there is a mutual co-dependency that will keep them wedded for many years, if not a lifetime. Anyway, I hope they analyse all the videos because they always manage to pick up something that I and others miss.
SwampWoman said…
Sandie said: Jacinda Arden makes it quite clear that her involvement in the latest documentary had nothing to do with the duo, who 'hijacked' the project at a very late stage.

Girl with a Hat said: Jacinda Ardern makes it clear that her implication was with the Nelson Mandela Foundation. She never spoke or was implicated with the *s.

Can you imagine working on what you believe to be a worthwhile project, only to have a couple of pretenders trying to bask in reflected glory being the spokesmen for your hard work? Even worse, with the S&M show, a large number of people are going to suspect it as being fraudulent, and then you are forever associated with their fraud.
Petunia said…
@Swamp Woman, THANK YOU! The vast majority of people swarming our southern border are NOT refugees but rather economic migrants with a dose of terrorists, drug smugglers, and sex traffickers thrown in. Thousands of children disappear into sex rings, while tens of thousands of Americans die from fentanyl ODs. My transplant surgeon told me that most of their organ donors these days ODed.

There are plenty of people in this country LEGALLY who need help. The Harkles don't care about them. They don't care about the "refugees" either. They just want publicity.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Holly that story about the Aspen Institute is old,

and, with the revelations about Twitter and the FBI being involved in social media to control information, I think that the whole trend about Disinformation is dead in the water. In fact, people who jumped on that bandwagon are going to be laughed at. Markled again!
SwampWoman said…
Petunia said...
@Swamp Woman, THANK YOU! The vast majority of people swarming our southern border are NOT refugees but rather economic migrants with a dose of terrorists, drug smugglers, and sex traffickers thrown in. Thousands of children disappear into sex rings, while tens of thousands of Americans die from fentanyl ODs. My transplant surgeon told me that most of their organ donors these days ODed.

There are plenty of people in this country LEGALLY who need help. The Harkles don't care about them. They don't care about the "refugees" either. They just want publicity.


The *only* reason for the open borders are to facilitate the flow of illegal narcotics and underage sex trafficking. The abused children are not going to be turned loose when their purchasers tire of them as they get older because they can't take the chance of an older child testifying against them. Government officials that agitate for open borders are profiting from all of it, all of the death, violence, overdose deaths and ruined lives.

The Meghan and Harry Reality Show took a stand and it wasn't with the righteous.
Girl with a Hat said…
when vacationing in Istanbul before * met her victim, I mean future husband, she took identical pictures at the identical spots that Cressida, Hairy's ex, did. Cressida posted on instagram, and so did *.

https://twitter.com/BananasRoyally/status/1605300324134055936
Girl with a Hat said…
- The Crown’s Diana actress made to lie in open coffin and pretend to be dead in shocking Netflix scenes
- Medics try to save her life in a blood-soaked scene
- Insiders say scenes are “obscene” and shouldn’t be screened

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/20819927/the-crown-diana-actress-open-coffin-scenes/
Rebecca said…
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Rebecca said…
Also from the DM:

Princess Beatrice gave Harry and Meghan the nod to film at Queen's cottage

Princess Beatrice, one of the few royals still in communication with Harry and Meghan, gave her permission for them to film at the Queen's outsize Wendy house at Windsor Castle for their Netflix entertainment. Called Y Bwthyn Bach, it was a sixth birthday present to Princess Elizabeth from the people of Wales in 1932. In 2010, HM passed custodianship of the house to Princess Beatrice, who oversaw a year-long renovation before inviting Andrew Marr inside for The Diamond Queen for the BBC in 2012, the first time television cameras had been allowed in. But when she allowed access to the Montecito Two did she know they would be smirking over their tea as they monetised one of the Queen's most private retreats
SwampWoman said…
Girl with a Hat said...
when vacationing in Istanbul before * met her victim, I mean future husband, she took identical pictures at the identical spots that Cressida, Hairy's ex, did. Cressida posted on instagram, and so did *.


Interesting how detailed her stalking plan was. Somebody put in a lot of time and effort to come up with that plan, and I'm not sure she's sufficiently focused.
HappyDays said…
@GWAH: Wow. This is not a coincidence. It’s pathologically creepy. It’s as creepy as all the pre-Harry photos of her copying Diana’s outfits and poses in photos.

Considering that before Harry’s first wife stalked her way into his life, Harry seemed to prefer blondes, so it’s a wonder she didn’t bleach her hair blonde.

Phrases that come to mind are beyond having a narcissistic personality. Bat guano crazy — deeply.
It's good to see so many clear -thinking American here on Nutty Flavor.

Can you folk explain why so many others are so many intent on punishing us now? After all, America won her independence in 1776, almost 250 years ago.
Magatha Mistie said…

SchadenFrauen*

Burgundy, claret
plum choice
Smack back at madam
no need to voice
Shades of white
caramel too
Colourful message
Scarlet Ho’harlot
phook hue…

*Re: Amanda Platell article

Berry Wives of Windsor 😉

Sandie said…
'They're paranoid and self-aggrandising, and can't fathom the idea that their boring, entitled victim narratives make them grating, cringey a**holes. Simple as that.' (Sharon Lester)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11560091/Harry-Meghan-YouTube-star-Shallon-Lester-brands-royal-couple-entitled-holes.html
Sandie said…
"Harry and Meghan, moaning that the two-bedroom Nottingham Cottage at Kensington Palace was just too small for them, neglect to clarify that it was a stopgap berth while the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester were being moved from their 21-room apartment at KP to allow an expensive refurbishment for the Sussexes. At the last minute, the Sussexes decided they didn't want to live there and the Queen offered Frogmore Cottage at Windsor instead. Staff were relocated and £2.4million was spent on making it a des res fit for the Sussex lifestyle. Curious how recollections vary."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11560401/EPHRAIM-HARDCASTLE-Beatrice-gave-Harry-nod-film-Queens-cottage.html

I would love to know the full story. Based on rumours, she tried to get Windsor Castle and so hyped up why Windsor was so special to her that the Queen scrounged around for something for them on the Windsor Estate and all she had to offer was Frogmore Cottage (5 cottages about to be renovated). Other accounts say she thought they were been given Frogmore House - imagine the shock when the car pulled up at Frogmore Cottages!
none said…
Girl with a Hat ~ Thank you! I feel better. I saw that story, read Aspen Institute and was so incensed I markled myself! Agree with you about the disinfo bandwagon. Interesting times.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Golden Retriever
Belated, much appreciated
thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it 😜



OKay said…
Uh...isn't it Eugenie, rather than Beatrice, who's been known to keep in touch with the Dastardly Duo?
Right at the start, I wasn't the only one to think * was a plant, if anyone remembers that far back.
Hikari said…
Interesting how recollections vary about the Sussex housing, like everything else. According to my recollection, the slimy pair did indeed have their greedy eyeballs on that KP apartment next door to the Cambridges. But William petitioned the Queen that they be removed from KP. Mugsy had been stalking Catherine and the children round Kensington and the noise from nightly baccanals was outrageous. As senior ranking Royal on the premises, he spoke for every resident there. There it was always going to be the ever present threat of cameras and recording devices if Meghan were allowed to move across the hall. So when the Sussexes returned from Australia, they found themselves reassigned to the staff quarters at Windsor. This was a rebuke from the Queen. Absolutely no way did they elect to banish themselves to Windsor.

Girl with a Hat said…
there's a controversy on twitter about a possible hookup between * and her handbag in 2015 in Istanbul before even the disputed first date.

Sorry, I closed twitter and didn't grab the link.

Charles and his disgusting son were in Istanbul to mark the 100th anniversary of the battle of Gallipoli and * posted in her Tig "48 hours in Istanbul will change your life", plus there were some other indicators that they met up. For example, there was the opening of Soho House in Istanbul at the time, and both were supposedly invited.

The person who posted on twitter also made a comment on Netflix or on Netflix' youtube channel, and the comment was deleted by Netflix.
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
Right at the start, I wasn't the only one to think * was a plant, if anyone remembers that far back.


I remember. I agreed. It was 'conspiracy theory' territory. Funny how most of those conspiracy theories have been confirmed.
OCGal said…
@none, you wrote “…I saw that story, read Aspen Institute and was so incensed I markled myself!” -ends-

“(I) was so incensed i markled myself!” That is HILARIOUS!

Thank you for the best laugh I’ve had in ever so long; I can’t stop chuckling.

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Seasons Greetings, and/or a Festivus miracle for all Nutties.

-from the Urban Dictionary:

Plant

an agent of misinformation, placed in a group to deceive, distract, or provoke

`That man who keeps starting drama, seemingly for no reason, is suspect of being a plant.'

by truthypants November 12, 2011
@WBBM and SwampWoman,

Maggot a plant? For who though? I thought this notion was eliminated and dismissed due to the fact she was deemed a narcissistic gold digger looking for a British boyfriend, by so many. She espouses Woke nonsense and word salad which has its followers.🫤

Or you meaning a plant for elsewhere? 🥴
Observant One said…
@ Swamp Woman and Petunia - I agree with your comments about the horrors at our southern border in the US. I am furious with the infamous Montecito Duo for their self indulgent endorsement of the Washington cabal, who are benefiting from the exploitation of children and the increase of illegal Fentanyl pouring into our country. Even if they are doing it out of ignorance, they still pretend to be so righteous and enlightened/informed.
snarkyatherbest said…
Hikari - im with you on KP. And the fact they complained about Nottingham Cottage says to me that they didnt get what they wanted. I recall around the Fab Four talk that the apartment next to the Wales/Cambridges was being renovated for them. I put that down to the Mrs putting out her PR to get the apartment which was not meant for them. The family knew what was going on in the background. Rumors of her kicked out when dating Harry, the incident with Charlotte before the wedding and likely a host of other behavior we never saw or heard of would have been well known to William. No way were they going to be next door.
Rebecca said…
From the Spectator:

Princess Beatrice… the betrayer?

Did Andrew’s eldest daughter know what Meghan and Harry were filming when she let them shoot at the Queen’s private residence?


Kara Kennedy

Their ranks may be dwindling, but Mr. and Mrs. Meghan Markle do have a few key supporters left on the other side of the Pond. What their fabulously rehearsed “fly-on-the-wall” documentary set in stone is who was gone for good: Wills and Kate. The poor Waleses were absolutely slandered. In fact, the only realistic thing about the whole show was the visceral hatred the Sussexes had for the pair. Harry despises his big brother almost as much as Jeremy Clarkson hates Meghan, and would certainly see him strung up in the streets, but of course, you can’t print that in Britain.

Team Windsor may be pretty strong in numbers, but the “we-just-want-to-be-normal-but-don’t-you-dare-forget-the-title” team do have two major players: the Princesses of York. Princess Eugenie, the youngest daughter of Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson has always been, unapologetically, team Sussex. Throughout the whole Megxit fallout, Eugenie has been publicly spotted with Meghan and Harry and even made a few cameo appearances in the new Netflix doc. In the first episode, which debuted two weeks ago, the royal is seen partying alongside Meghan and Harry the night before their star-crossed romance was made public.

Her older sister Beatrice is a bit more complex. She keeps to herself, and usually offers the same stance on public relations that her dearest granny did. Keeping schtum. But now, she has become the latest victim of being royally screwed by the disloyal duke and duchess, as it comes to light that it was Princess Beatrice that, intentionally or unintentionally, gave Meghan and Harry the go-ahead to film in the Queen’s private residence. After the monarch said no.

According to one royal source it was Princess Beatrice, Harry’s cousin, that let them take the Netflix film crew into the Queen’s outside Wendy house; what we don’t yet know is whether she was aware of what was being filmed or why. It was there that the duke and duchess laughed and smiled candidly for the Netflix cameras, sipping tea and sitting in child-sized chairs. Such fun! Perfectly sized for the delinquent toddlers.

Rebecca said…
The building is twenty four feet long, eight feet deep, with five feet high rooms and was gifted to the Queen on her sixth birthday as a present from the people of Wales. Perhaps most surprising is that the Sussexes would stoop so low as to even enter the tiny residence, after complaining last week at the size of Nottingham Cottage, the grace-and-favor residence they were gifted by the Queen. The pair couldn’t believe how short the Nottingham Cottage ceilings were, and Oprah Winfrey even offered her two-pence, saying “no one would ever believe” that Harry and Meghan were made to live there.

Y Bwthyn Bach, which means ‘The Little Cottage,’ in Welsh, was given to the Queen, so now falls under the King’s Crown Estate. But in 2010, the late Queen passed custodianship of the house to her Princess Beatrice, who organized a year-long renovation to the house before inviting journalist Andrew Marr inside for his three-part BBC series, The Diamond Queen, in 2012. It was the first time television cameras had been allowed inside the house, which is usually reserved for younger members of the family.

As Beatrice was fiercely protective of her granny, it seems unlikely that she knew what the Sussexes were up to when she granted them access. It is even more unlikely that she knew they’d be smirking over their tea as they counted their cash from the inside scoop of one of the Queen’s most private residences… after the Queen had said no. Maybe Beatrice will now learn from her kind-heartedness. Nothing is ever sacred, especially in Hollywood.
Fifi LaRue said…
There was an article somewhere that the Dumbartons filmed their reality show in a rented $35 million house. I suspect that if they do live in the $14 million Montecito house, it's a rental and came furnished, and is extraordinarily garish on the inside. If the Montecito house was really theirs surely the Dumbartons would have hired the most exclusive interior designer to do their home, and then showcase it in Architectural Digest. But they didn't. Another case of the dog that didn't bark in the night.
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Sandie said…
https://youtu.be/AYUWVDok918

2023 predictions for the royal family from Craig Hamilton-Parker.
Maneki Neko said…
Sophie and Edward have released their Christmas card, a lovely photo of them and the Queen. Sussexes, take note - this is how it's done.


https://tinyurl.com/3y5w24xp

SwampWoman said…
And if we didn't have enough things to worry about, apparently robot vacuum cleaners have been taking pictures of the household and sending them to their headquarters. Apparently it is part of their navigation system. People changing clothes, on the toilet, etc. The, uh, Venezuelan contract workers have been posting revealing pics. There are probably many, many more.

Too bad HRM QEII didn't send the Harkles a Roomba instead of a waffle iron.

/Or maybe she did.

The thing is, a smart anything is/can function as a spy device.

https://futurism.com/the-byte/roomba-photos-leaked

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/12/19/1065306/roomba-irobot-robot-vacuums-artificial-intelligence-training-data-privacy/

Hikari said…
Poor Beatrice . . .she's been Markled.

I'd say that since intentionally allowing filming inside the Wendy House would have been contrary to Bea's otherwise hands-off approach to the Harkles and respect for Granny, I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt that she was unaware that they'd be taking a film crew. Bea is notoriously private herself and this would not jump to the front of her mind as the reason the Harkles wanted to see the house. Cousin Harry probably lied to her through his wonky teeth and told her that he wanted to show Meghan (Welsh for 'pearl', you know . . !) Granny's Wendy House. Maybe he said they wanted to take a portrait there for a Christmas card . .would that have been permissible? Camilla took a charming photo of herself inside the Wendy House for one of her book clubs. It's the Sussexes so you can be sure permission was granted through plenty of omission or outright fibbing.

It's in the vein of "We did SO ask permission to use the name Lilibet!" As far as I know, Beatrice hasn't had anything to do with Harry or his wife since the wedding apart from this instance so I think she was snowed. Depending on when this happened, she may have still not been aware to be sufficiently on her guard around the slimeballs.

Narkle is systematically destroying every single relationship inside the House of Windsor, not just Harry with his relatives, but she has sowed discord now between the previously very close York sisters and William no longer trusts his York cousins either. And Narkle LOVES it . . all this pain and drama, tears and shouting and acrimony--SHE did this. It's her grand achievement.
NeutralObserver said…
@Maneki Neko, I love the Wessexes' card. Prince Edward looks like a tall, male version of his mother. One overlooks how pretty Sophie actually is. Very nice way to remember the Queen.
Petunia said…
I got rid of Alexa because I hated the idea of something always listening. Would never have thought of Roombas with cameras though!
Ardern, Steinem, and Thunberg are hardly role models or leaders anyone should follow. So of course the Harkles would glom onto them.
SwampWoman said…
@Hikari, I agree. I think the Markles lied about wanting to take a couple of pictures to use in their bitch-a-thon. I do not think that Beatrice or Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi will be forgiving.
abbyh said…
We don't have roomba either.

And it does appear that some do have cameras and it can create a privacy problem.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/12/19/1065306/roomba-irobot-robot-vacuums-artificial-intelligence-training-data-privacy/

(I hadn't know that existed).

Hikari said…
Neutral,

Edward had his father’s blond hair as a child, but as he’s gotten older, he’s the spitting image of The Queen. He looks the most like her of all her children. He’s got her eyes for sure.

Rebecca said…
The Wendy House is on the grounds of Royal Lodge, where Andrew and Fergie live. It would be hard to take a film crew (even just one cameraman) there without the York family knowing about it. I believe Beatrice knew exactly what Harry and Meghan were planning.
Sandie said…
@Hikari
I would be very surprised if Beatrice gave them permission to film inside the dollhouse for their mockumentary. Nope, it did not happen.

I also remember that the decision to split the offices and for the duo to move to Windsor was announced during or just after that big tour which she used to show a pregnancy that was not showing. Numerous sources say that William kicked them out (him and Catherine took over that apartment in Kensington Palace). That does not make sense because TBW is not a team player and would want to have her own office, but I have realized that she (and her deluded husband) probably thought that they could take control of the office and have the future Prince and Princess of Wales under her control, because she was so popular and she was going to modernize the monarchy!

Unfortunately, the only people who can tell us the full truth will never do so - the Prince and Princess of Wales. But maybe one day one or more of their staff will be allowed to write a memoir, and they will have receipts in the form of emails and may even be keeping diaries.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11564273/Camilla-ousts-Prince-Andrew-Colonel-Grenadier-Guards.html

King Charles is continuing with his 'modernizing'. The Queen and Princess of Wales take over ceremonial roles as Colonel of the Grenadier Guards and Colonel of the Irish Guards.

The following article is more clear about who is replacing whom:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20831298/camilla-replaces-andrew-trooping-the-colour/
@RR

Well, it's a hypothesis.

I can think of two major nation states and a couple of minor states which would be more than happy to sow unrest and destruction in the UK (one of which already has a long track record of it) but think it wise not to mention their names, also a movement of closely similar ideology, to judge by its symbol.

I don't think * herself is immune from being manipulated. She thinks she's smart but we've seen plenty of evidence to the contrary. She has a low cunning but I can't imagine her declaring `Get thee behind me, Satan', if another party promised her world domination if she took their advice and their thirty pieces of silver.

We've seen plenty of evidence that her narcissism prevent her from reading the true motivation of others - think of how she attributes any response unfavourable to her as the result of jealousy. I think that she could be bought with abundant flattery and lots of cash and never for one moment questions why someone is paying court to her. She knows already - its because she's wonderful and it's her due.

Just a thought.
Sandie said…
An interesting video from The Body Language Guy that, to me, shows how disturbing that mockumentary is:

https://youtu.be/wKmTgcNy-Mk
Sandie said…
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-uncomplaining-bravery-of-the-senior-royals/

A great example of how an actress can still work and fit into the royal family. This is what she says about the royal family:

"I cherish my growing closeness to the senior members of the royal family who are so hardworking, uncomplaining and brave in the face of relentless and brutal media attention, criticism, lies, undermining and fictional TV programmes – and always so good to me that I’m honoured to know them."
I'd like add that I'm NOT refering to the US!
Sandie said…
@Rebecca
The grounds at Royal Lodge are huge and there are lots of very big trees. They had a cameraman from Backgrid with them. The 'Doll's House' is shielded from the Royal Lodge by trees. However, the parking area is right by the 'Doll's House' and in clear view of Royal Lodge. To take a professional cameraman with them, without permission, would have been very risky.

One of the Yorks gave them permission to access the 'Doll's House' with a paparazzi photographer, either with the full knowledge that they were going to monetize the images or under the impression that the photograph would be used for some valid reason. (Perhaps an image, with the children, to be used for a Christmas card.)

Unless one of the Yorks talk (I count on Sarah for that), we will never know the true story, but we do know that the the couple in the photograph are dishonest traitorous grifters.

I doubt that the King will say anything nor sanction the Yorks in any way, but the duo from America should never be trusted again.
abbyh said…
I could see it pitched as: I/we have always wanted to have tea in The Dollhouse. You don't mind if I do this? And maybe a camera to show that I/we did this?

But timing on that. That's the kind of thing you do with your kids. That's what's off to me. IDK. Maybe before kids, before anyone had an inkling of the looming storm in the distance?
ieschew said…
Happy 22 December, Nutties. At first glance, this article about * knowing how to curtsey back in 2010 seems a little frivolous because we all know by now that she is full of merde.

However, DM has the auto-video playing, so one can’t help but see the video when scrolling past. This may be a stretch, but: It makes me wonder if they are trying to reveal something else via the video without directly saying it. Look at her physique. The only comments permitted appear to be sugarbots and benign/generic criticism, not questions about the shape of her tummy. But surely I’m not alone in the wondering?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11565519/Meghan-Markle-carries-perfect-curtsy-resurfaced-Suits-clip.html
Karla said…
Queen's Dollhouse.
My opinion
I tried to find the filming dates, but I couldn't. In DM's photo, I noticed that MM has shorter hair. And I thought that H&M might have been allowed into the dollhouse when they were still working members of the RF and not in return for the Queen's Jubilee. What can explain the absence of children......but I could be wrong.
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Observant One❤️❤️

Thank you for such beautiful words. Impossible to read what you wrote and not imagine her as a wonderful being!❤️
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Magatha
You are always refreshing. What creativity!
snarkyatherbest said…
Sandie. i like that idea. sold someone on christmas card (hmm was that the painted image archie one from a while back) so she can say see we used it but stylized it and then totally liked and mocked with what they really did. i don’t buy that Bea was active in letting them do things to mock the queen (which the big people in little seats in the Queens playhouse was). Bea and the queen appears to have a special relationship. the wedding dress and the wedding during covid which could have exposed either grandparent showed to me how close they were. bea would be mortified that this occurred how it occurred. and perhaps that was the point. the documentary was nearly completed and then the queen died. could you image those images coming out when the queen was alive. bea would have been so upset. so they i think they intended to throw Bea under the bus. the mrs was deliberate on what she wanted in there. all of this and particularly mocking the queen says to me they were kicked out and like petulant children they will make fun of anyone and anyone who didn’t let them get their way

so new appointments for Camila and Catherine. one of those would have been Haz’s if he didn't screw up so much. Happy Holidays H
snarkyatherbest said…
ieschew. i’m a bit dense not sure what you mean by her physique. it is clear side by side she has had fillers in the face. will point out they show the engagement photos again and wow the yoko ono vibe is real in those. hadn’t noticed that before.

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