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Plot Twist!

 Well, that is a plot twist - Prince Andrew is giving up titles - announced by the Palace.

Dude is willing enough to face the future without that after his name.  Say what you will but he is being honorable about this (we may not ever know the details of what it took to get it).  Is there something else to come out we don't know about (yet) or is it just it has taken this long to drag out negotiations between the various parties to ink a deal?  Time will tell.

For him, I wonder how it will play out about Royal Lodge.  A place he has been totally unwilling to leave.  Or how it will play out for the future of his daughters.  Sarah - let's not go there.  It is a real twist already.  We don't gloat here.

BUT what about how it could impact the duo?   Well, well, well.

Takes the whole racist claim off the table (and into the nearest deep ocean never to be taken seriously again by most who might have bought it previously).  Expect it likely to resurface though as it was quite useful.  People keep useful until it isn't.

 I think it will really apply (reality aka pressure) on them with the whole idea of: This can happen to you too.  We call that an "Oh shit!" right before all hell breaks lose moment in my family.

There is this part of me which thinks this is when they really start throwing the we want to come back and be part of you.  Intensity likely to really ramp up in ways we have not seen the likes of before.  And more than just humble pie would be offered (and possible outrage with the usual claims that it was not accepted to followed as a second course).  

So ... put on your seatbelt and prepare for the wild ride.  



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Magatha Mistie said…

Singalong đŸŽ€
Apologies: Jeff Beck
High Ho Silver Lining

Aerothot

You’re everywhere and nowhere megsy
You’re not all that
Thinking everything is rosé
While flogging your tat
Buzzing across the country
winged feral rat
Carrying sussexcess baggage
Desperate old twat

And the high ho’s bronzer’s shining
Everywhere on show ho megsy
We know you can’t stop whining
With or without Wuss
You’re so odious…



Maneki Neko said…
Lovely to see you back @Magatha. You hit the nail on the head as usual.
The first BBC report about Andrew seemed to imply that had HM not `persuaded' him to give up, the Government would have acted. perhaps I misunderstood but that sounded odd.

About the York princesses - who curtseys to whom? Do they have to perform a `révérence' to Catherine when she's with William? I can imagine that they would be p*ssed off at having to do so to someone they consider beneath them. Where does Sophie stand in the pecking order? Does Andrew loss of the Dukedom affect his place in the pecking order? Is he now of lower status than younger brother Edward, Duke of Edinburgh? Has there been a change in the pecking order?
Maneki Neko said…
This is what I've found. As I suspected, it's not straightforward.

"The general rule of thumb to remember is that a Royal Highness does not curtsy to another Royal Highness," Myka Meier, an etiquette expert and the author of the book Modern Etiquette Made Easy, tells PEOPLE. "Therefore, while the newly titled Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh will still have to curtsy to His Majesty King Charles and Her Majesty The Queen Consort, they will not have to curtsy any of the blood princes or princesses or those who have married one."

According to Debrett's, Kate and Meghan outrank blood members of the royal family — but only when they're with their husbands, Prince William and Prince Harry. "Protocol dictates that when the Princess of Wales and the Duchess of Sussex are not accompanied by their husbands, Princess of the Royal Blood, such as Princess Beatrice and Eugenie, rank above them. However, when the Duchesses are accompanied by their husbands, the roles are reversed and the duchesses outrank the princesses," they state.' (People)
Maneki Neko said…
Apparently, William made the decision with Charles to ask Andrew to give up his titles. Maybe William gave his father the push he needed to act.
Girl with a Hat said…
It seems I can't post here
Thank you - clarity at last! I did know it depended on whether Catherine or Sophie were with their husbands or not but beyond that, I wasn't sure.
There's a really clear, informative, post about how the monarch has been unable to remove titles since 1215. Yes, it's all because of how Bad King John behaved. Under Magna Carta, the King can give titles but they can only be taken away by will of the People, as expressed in Parliament. Likewise, peers can only lose their estates under an Act of Attainder if they have committed treason (used, IIRC, after the Forty Five).

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1oabkrp/why_andrew_had_to_make_that_statement_this_also/

There's also a significant snippet in response, originally from Secondhand Coke, reposted by @CalChemicalPlum, about what H should do...

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