Well that was a shock. Out of nowhere. Whiplash I tell you.
What I wonder about:
Selling/get out from underneath the big house in Montecito. Living that life there was costing them dearly, koi specialists aside. Traditionally the seller pays the realtors although with the new rules out that may or may not apply. But ... off loading this particular house may be difficult and the seller may need to add things to sweeten the sale. That may come out as a negative on the balance sheet.
Hmm, I thought she hated the UK and never wanted to return, especially after not getting things she wanted from the last visit, although he could do what he wanted. What triggered this 180? It must have been really big.
Think about all the money they have spent to invest in the states. The house. The vacations. The clothing. And, the security. Then, there is all the spread, wine and book marks - the set up and what remains unsold. Huge chunks of money. Tossed. There was something about how there was going to be a one stop therapy and similar that her mother was going to be part of. We haven't heard a peep out of that in years. But lots spent on lawyers setting it up structurally as I recall.
We never heard anything about how they were doing on the tax situation. I would not want to be their accountant.
Where are they going to live? You can't live forever at Soho. Schools are not cheap. When he was growing up, his life was heavily subsidized - not just money covering his expenses but his father sent over prepared food.
I remember that he has talked about wanting his kids to have the experiences he had with cousins. I could wrong but just moving back to his homeland is not going to guarantee that his kids will now play with the Wales even taking into account that the ages don't really overlap well. Nor will being nearby be a guarantee to invited to family holidays. In fact, it may be even more obvious because they would now be close enough instead of needing to fly across the pond.
I don't know.
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What will a deeply humiliated narcissist do when she totally loses her face? She will seek revenge.
And I do truly hope someone is keeping an eye on the sprogs. I don't mean in a nanny sort of way, more in a Child Protective Services kind of way. I do believe she is capable of anything to get attention and money, and having been thwarted in her own attempts, I think the children are going to be under enormous pressure to meet her delusional expectations.
This BBC article has a few more details.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqjxn9j410vo
'So now we know the real reason he fought so hard and tried to force the UK govt to pay for his security. At the time it was thought by everyone, including the judges. it was just about short stays, visits here. Had he won, they'd now be entitled 24/7 not just a few days or weeks a year. That was his/their plan, already scheming to move back, and getting taxpayers to foot the bill for their security and save them a big expense.'
That's a very good point. There's also the school fees that will be payable in advance. Obviously the Hollywood dream is over. What will * do/flog? And Harry? The mood of the public at large re the duo's return is one of doom and gloom and I can't imagine what William and Catherine are feeling.
Could HM be covering the cost of security?
Is the idea to habituate to idea that the children are `really' theirs, so we protest if they're `removed' from the Succession on account of their illegitimacy in the eyes of the law? Vigils in Trafalgar Square - that sort of thing?
River is back and claiming inside knowledge that the visit to the King was very perfunctory, barely long enough to down a single small cuppa is the impression I got.
I can't think that they've successfully made all the arrangements they need for an international move unless someone's offered them a place to to doss down, unless it's a branch of Soho House. Can you imagine them at Travelodge? Even that needs booking.
Will the children be sequestered in boarding school?
What effect does this have on the princely title.
I do so feel for the Cambridges - after all they've been through already..
But it was all so sudden. Just another one of their bombs like we are leaving. Now and not caring if the door slammed.
There is a part of me which wonders if they received notice of foreclosure on the house. The cost of running it is a huge drain. And would continue to be if it is left unoccupied. Something big like that.
Maybe part of the very private conversation was asking about a what if, then could help with ... like tuition?
The Prime Minister refused to be drawn on whether the couple would receive taxpayer-funded protection while in the country, after The Telegraph revealed that the Sussexes intend to move back to Britain from the US later this month.'
Their arrangements might well be private but only if the duo pay for their security themselves. If not, then the taxpayer will be on the hook and it then it becomes a public matter.
What are they going to do all day? His friends have all kind of moved on and she - well - has limited people she feels comfortable with there. Sounds like a recipe for boredom.
Neither deals well with being told "no". They both seem to think it is only the beginning of negotiations instead of a complete sentence with no future planned discussions by the other party.
Considering how the palace is not always kept in the loop about their plans, this will continue to be a nightmare for them. My guess is there will be a whole series of oops, we forgot, we thought someone else told you and so on or flat out still releasing what they want, when they want and conveniently always when something someone else is doing gets overshadowed.
After enough of this, probably that's when the hammer will drop and it will be hard. We will then hear about how much they gave up to return, they were not welcomed and now they are victims again. recognition of a pattern?
When the sussexes organize children's parties it is important that the Wales children don't eat any cake or drink any juice. William and Catherine are going to go through difficult times.
I wonder if the King is very jealous of William as he was of Diana. And if that is behind some of the happenings now.
That made me laugh, but for M a huge AUTCH!
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PortiaRoseNZ
The GRIFT that keeps on grifting
ANL costs decision
Lawsuits
A UK journalist was interviewed on New Zealand radio today and said Judge Nicklin’s costs decision is to be released Friday afternoon GMT.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1vu4irz/anl_costs_decision/
I stand corrected. I understand the sentiment, a lot of US comments offered their condolences to us.
Re the visa, 6 years is a long time to refuse one. As always with the Sussexes, everything is shrouded in mystery and intrigue. Who knows what's behind this abrupt move to the UK.
Her booty lies over the ocean
Her booty lies over the sea
Her booty denied LA motion
So back to UK royalty…
Only Fools and Sources
Will they, won’t they
where will they live
Grindslog days
they repeatedly give
Something is rotten
in the state of megmark
Clarity needed
from the crew at South Park
All bridges torched
from Elton to Beckham
But there’s a three wheeler car
and council flat in Peckham…
That is the problem with this charming couple. Everything they have said and all the clear lies they told one finds on one's computer for internet never forgets. A very juicy article of Jan Moir in Daily Mail today (Friday) about "our favorite jampreneur" is an excellent and very funny and biting example of that all.
Poor, poor baroness not a thing did she succeeded with and then they are laughing!!!
Megxocet
She can’t act
that’s a fact
Apart from portraying a
dissed duchess
Her feet on the cobbles of
Coronation Street
Or a sheep on Emmerdale
don’t move just bleat…
it's been said that she's been offered a plum role playing herself - altho' to me there's an inherent contradiction in that. Were it a truthful portrayal, would she recognise herself? TBH, I doubt if she's capable of playing herself, except when she was on duty as a royal duchess.
I daresay there's a difference - this time she'll be paid for it.
I am astounded at the talent you share with us, thank you!
Still no RAVEC decision on H's security claim. We have no fewer that 9, yes NINE, former PMs to protect first. They are entitled to full life-time protection si resoucres are being stretched very thin. Yer gotta larf!
Does Harry expect Papa to cough up?
I've just read she 'desperately wanted to be in a West End' production for many years'. To my knowledge, she never did theatre work and wasn't even interested in the theatre when the Queen made her a patron of the National Theatre. Some hope!
"Shortly after the wedding, Meghan applied for a Spousal Visa, which would allow her to live in the UK for two years. She would [theoretically] then apply for another two-year renewal and, after five years, apply for Leave to Remain, which would provide permanent residence. The original visa became void because she moved to the United States in March 2020. The Duchess travels on a U.S. passport, and with the ETA, she can stay in the UK up to six months, but cannot merely leave the country for a short period and then return for another six months.
Being married to a British citizen does not automatically give a spouse the right to live in the United Kingdom, even if one is married to a member of the Royal Family."
She'll have to start all over again. Did Harry register Lily's birth with the British consulate in LA in order to get her a British passport? Interesting developments ahead.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/royals/article-16070121/Prince-Harry-Princess-Eugenie-not-close-anymore.html
So they`re not even in the UK yet and people are already disassociating themselves from them.
Yes, it seems they are fleeing the US. I was reading a transcript of a Lady C video (quicker than watching) and the duo have to flee due to Harry falsifying his immigration papers and other supporting documents. This stems from the fact that Harry didn't mention his drug use. Added to that, they are going broke.
The next few months are going to keep the press busy.
They have truly screwed up their lives, Harry and his wife. If the Royal Family know what the true parentage of Harry's children is how will they solve the problem without seeming to solve the problem. The Family can not trust that the baroness will not tell the truth after the divorce if she wants to shame the Family and Harry horribly and humiliatingly.
Who believes that our hero Harry is going to grow a brain now that he will be back in the land of his fathers?
Royal author Tina Brown claimed last night that an offer for the Duchess of Sussex to appear in Guy Ritchie’s hit Netflix show had been withdrawn after the reaction in Britain became too ‘intense’.
Ms Brown said: ‘I learned that the casting of Meghan Markle has been withdrawn. The backlash was so intense it became untenable to go forward.’'
Oh dear. It couldn't happen to a nicer person. Will this drive the message home that she (in particular)/they is/are not wanted?
I have had in my family a situation where my brother called our older sister and told her that he was planning to take his own life and our sister said to him "I am busy, I have no time now" and he killed himself. Fifteen years later my daughter chose a divorce in a very difficult situation and the same sister chose to destroy my baby's life by taking care that my daughter lost her very young children, my grandchildren for 3 and 1/2 years. My sister knew NOTHING about that situation and she was all the more ready to destroy the life of a 3 years old and a 5 years old just to play her very sick power games. The court gave those children back to my daughter but it has taken almost seven years to repair the destruction and plant the love and trust back to my beloved boys.
How many of you would give me the advice that ok she has done very dirty tricks twice BUT now is the time to forgive her?!?
With prince William it is not just a family matter but his position as a future HEAD OF STATE where he must decide whether he wants two psychologically sick people screwing around his personal life and the state business. This is a sick game British press is playing!!
And, also for all the rest of us here who have someone who behaves in a similar fashion in our lives. (sadly more common than we all wish) For me, it felt isolating in that others just didn't seem to see it. Or want to see it.
As for the push of reconciliation, may those who push that agenda, I don't exactly wish for similar people to come into their lives and create such turmoil but life, karma, call it what you like/believe in, eventually it will come into their life in some format. Might not be family but at work or a "friend". You and I just won't likely be around to see or hear of it.
Until you have lived through it, it is easy to look down on someone who is not the creator of said turmoil and think they ought be the one to reach out, make the amends, be the bigger person and move on as if nothing bad happened.
We can only hope they learn from it (and think an apologetic thought as to how they criticized the BRF in print/SM for not reuniting with the couple when they returned).
Between us, I think it will become more obvious to the world that the couple is being held at arm's length when they are not invited to family/former close friends various activities/ceremonies. Before it was more about well they are so far it doesn't make sense for them to fly all that distance for just this. Now they are geographically close and it will be very very clear. Or that people who knew both brothers have chosen William for assorted reasons - one of which is, he lives the family/work life/values which matches theirs (and not just he will be king). Oh, the couple might get invited to visit X or Y but ... unlikely any one from the family will be there at the same time or it will be choreographed like the recent less than an hour visit.
And, after William ascends, then even those niceties will go on the chopping block.
I am so very sorry about what happened to your brother and your daughter and grandchildren. It is very hard to fathom how some people can behave. I hope you have now found peace.
I think William is mindful of his role as future king but also wants to protect his family, particularly his wife and his father, from the maleficent witch. I don't think he is in a forgiving mood at the moment, the Sussexes having presented their very sudden return as a fait accompli to the BRF. I am not sure he will ever be in a forgiving mood, I can't see it in the near future, even if the duo toe the line.
Forgiveness demands evidence of penitence, then it's a matter of the injured party letting go of the hurt and resentment for their own good. It doesn't require the fatted calf or profession of undying brotherly love or pretending to oneself or the world that it never happened.
I think W has got it about right. Can a future king gloss over his people being slandered and libelled with lies and untruths by someone who's just as as likely to do it again, or whose wife may continue to do it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1vwgs3k/i_suspect_ive_figured_out_what_the_harkles_are_up/
It got to the point where I had no joy in anything I had enjoyed before - food, music, even a sunny day.
It took me 2 weeks to get back to almost normal and I wake up every day thanking the good Lord that I am able to recover. Many don`t. And I was able to leave that environment.
I can`t imagine having to live with the stress that William is facing.
Lord help us all.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/royals/article-16077689/Prince-Harry-Meghan-not-people-left-relate-Britain-Omid-Scobie.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1vy0a4r/you_got_to_be_kidding_me_rob_shuter_has_written_a/
I can think of a story line in which H thinks the throne is his and there's dramatic switch, whereby he and all his descendants are ruled out of the LOS for ever ...
'Nuff said. Heh! Heh!
Exactly! I imagine she's behind it.
Is his idea that when he could force Camilla to the people he can force Harry and his wife to the people and they accept it?
If he was, wouldn't he have had a longer and not private meeting?
Clued people in with the latest change in plans from his son and wife? Make plans to help ease their way?
I suspect the son spoke in generalities with his father about maybe we might come back. Might have even had several mentions over the years even so the concept was known option. The palace, who plans for funerals years in advance + adjusts them as people come and go, would probably have had some thoughts about how to respond if and when it would happen.
But the sudden pivot to NOW is the timing release is a them thing. The sudden we are leaving racist UK. We are leaving Canada before the borders close. The faux tours of we will be here. There. Comes off as no warning to anyone, including the palace. (Gosh it sounds almost like everyone else is expected to jump to a sudden change in plans.) And that, isn't how the palace/men in grey help keep things smoothly running. To pull it all off, the king would need their fully committed help the same way he would need it from his wife - the immortalized tarred and feathered object in print without any sort of apology in sight. And William and Catherine. Edward and Sophie. And Anne. (plus her being able to follow the directions of how to make it succeed this time when she had a habit of going rogue last time which everyone remembers)
Who is pushing the idea of how the UK now needs to embrace his son/wife? cui bueno? Think long and hard about this. They do. They benefit the most. Any one else? not really. not at all. Tarnishes more like it.
They might know that on some level the numbers are stacked against them but ... IF they come out with the appearance that he has the backing of his father then they appear stronger and more powerful. Powerful enough to take on William (hiss, hiss). The people (sheeple following the king because of tradition). And, if still believe that the King has power to order people to do what he wants (aka like Henry VIII) for things like order security upgraded to William's level, then he surely will be able to make the people accept him and his wife and the inviskids (no questions answered about them or the LOS).
More importantly, it will sow turmoil and lots of ink - now, later and if the other plans don't work (ie the people rise up against the couple) proving yet again how racist the country is when you live for victim status and needing another reason to leave - again. Double win.
Even if the palace had a couple days warning before the public, I don't then we can go dotted line to that means the king is plotting to force his kid/family back into this unwanted family/monarchy/public space.
As much as I think the king wished he could see his son, the kids more frequently, I think the king benefited health wise by having that all living far and not a couple of hours away. If the king hasn't figure that out already, he will in the near future when all the demands begin. (ie times zones have their benefits sometimes).
I don't think there is credible evidence that the king is the driver behind this idea. Someone saying that the king wants this is not the same as the King actually saying/doing things to make this happen. In keeping with the never explain, never complain it would be rare for there to be a clarifying announcement of nope.
Many of us knew by then that Diana wasn't the innocent she professed to be, people were more realistic. I, for one, long accepted that it was she who had strayed first. As long ago as 1989/90 I heard a story from a freelance photographer who'd chanced on her out on the town in the small hours with a chap who clearly wasn't Charles and was obviously not `just a good friend'...
I remember my heart sank when the announcement that Charles was getting married (Hooray!) was immediately followed by the mention of his fiancee being only 19 at the time (Oh dear...).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33hsFyEdhbg
She hated the social world of Harry's and never could reach any success in it because she lacks all the manners and the sophistication of the civilized world. She is just a cheap tart who cannot stop talking about herself and that's it.
It will be interesting how Harry is going to react to all that because the female wiles of his wife are a thing in the past so he hardly sees La Vie En Rose with her any more.
I reckon the Harkles are pretty safe...
(Well, she has said it earlier and it caused a proper and juicy scandal so why not repeat it when she needs something?)
And * will miss an opportunity to show us her one tear, left eye trick.
It'd be even more amusing if it the liaison officer turned out to be a PCSO (Police Community Support Officer) !
Apologies: Tennyson
The Lady of Shalott
(the mirror crack’d)
Regretsxit
She left the debt, she quit by zoom
She made the journey by
private broom
She saw her petals fail to bloom
She saw that megxit ends in doom
She look’d down on Scamalot
The kraken krak’d for bride who lied
Out of funds and scorned world wide
“an empty purse does not
become me” cried
The Shady of Haznot…
Re-leash the Hounds
All they say as ever
is pure bull shit
The only truth is
their regret for megxit
The old dogs new tricks
between the Toms and the Dicks
Is to swallow hard
as she crawls and begs
The pariahs return
with his tail between her legs…
Remegade
The pedants are revolting
lack frunds and now bolting
Hoping to make coin overseas
Desperate and mateless
totally tasteless
She’ll have to get back
on her knees…
Send in the Clowns
She’s not reared her head
Grande horizontale in bed
When/where will she surface
Buckingham Palace
Meggie does Malice
Apropos to her six toed circus…
@Maneki
Crossroads more suited
seducing Benny 😉
@GWAH
Glad you liked ‘em 😜
@Sassie
Thank you
Less said more intended
@OKay
I applaud Camilla, a good woman
I’d love to have a G & T with her and
a good laugh
Thank God the King has her by
his side
Politick
The King isn’t able
despite his label
To curb his abhorrent son
The worries of the country
diverse split and monetary
Lay first with labour who won…
You've been busy! Thanks for making us laugh, not much to laugh about these days!
Besides how many of those people are ready to offer their contact with the future king of the realm that they know to be a decent and honourable guy and friend just to hop in a bandwagon with a traitorous and treacherous man who has sold his whole family several times for money?
But it is quite clear this is going to be ugly.
. . . But a source told The Mail on Sunday: 'Friends who caught up with Harry were expecting to hear noises of contrition and humility.
'Instead, there will be no imminent mea culpa from Harry by the sounds of things. Far from it, in fact. He is still in that Oprah mindset.
'They were agog to hear he still feels angry with members of the Royal Family, is still frustrated by the 'men in grey suits' who surround his father, and still expects an apology.'
. . .The source said: 'Friends who have spoken to him since he returned to the UK were surprised to discover that the record has not changed one bit since 2020 and Megxit. It's shocking and quite sad.' It echoes what Harry said in an interview in 2023 when he said: 'What I'd really like is some accountability. And an apology to my wife.'
The source added: 'He certainly won't be issuing a public apology for his actions and he's whipped himself up all over again and Diana's legacy is a factor in this.'' (DM)
I wonder then why the Harkles are back if they are in such a frame of mind. They just don't get it if they expect an apology. The BRF do not owe them anything, least or all an apology. They and we, the British public, are the ones who need an apology.
Charles is no leader and his time seems to be a one of invisibility and trivial family politics.
Are you still having problems my friend?
Maybe it was a forced system update (this happens to me) which then restarted the computer which then triggered a google update which is why you saw what you saw?
I must admit that I am extremely curious what exactly have each and every one done. Has Harry a list with details for each individual?
It seems that Charles must start a proper Mea Culpa to get back his darling boy.
And Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor is dragged into the limelight once again and not for his heroic deeds.
Not many monarchies are going to remain if this continues.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/2244258/meghan-markles-list-demands-UK
Funnily enough, I was in a shopping centre today and walked past Penhaligon's (perfume shop). They have a new perfume whose name was written on the window, 'The manoeuvres of the Baroness'. The title immediately brought to mind a certain Baroness, especially next to the word manoeuvres. The Baroness in question is fictional but is 'Described as a master strategist and collector of secrets, the fictional Baroness quietly rules high society from the shadows.'. Our Baroness is not quite a master strategist and doesn't rule high society but she certainly manoeuvres in the shadows. Penhaligon's were not inspired by *, though.
Allegedly she also wants a film studio set up so she can edit for her social media. Film editing is not something I know anything about but what all do you need besides a high powered computer and a couple of screens as days of needing a dark room for developing are no longer mandatory for photos but only for purists? I am familiar with a craft corner (I get to use the dining room table for sewing). Growing up, if we expressed interest in something, my parents made us slog through on beginner level equipment and lessons to see if we would continue with it to make buying the better equipment worth while.
A public mental breakdown of his younger son would be something everyone would blame the King being responsible for. And as he has not done anything to stop Harry's sick tricks during last six years maybe people would be right in their thoughts.
Charles tried to be there and be the best single parent he could be. The son has made it clear that anything which happened is clearly not the son's fault. People usually chose the role of hero in telling their life story (not villain).
What we don't know is what KC has tried in the past in response to what H has, has not done or threatened to do. After all, the report was that he was told repeated by his father that his father was and is not a bank and yet the reports keep mentioning that the king, as his father, needs to step in and give this money or pay for that. It's easy for them to say so when it isn't out of their account. It also helps stir the pot which seems to happen to trail around the couple.
As much as the son lets loose to tell everyone all about what his father, that does not mean that the son is the most accurate of transmitters of information. Especially when the other side does the never explain routine in public. Private is unlikely as the family does not want to read about it in an anti-monarchy paper.
The king cannot win when the papers keep drilling that he is the one who has to welcome, accept and do this without a drop of ink that perhaps the king was not the one who started the son down a less desirable life path - that perhaps the son has some accountability being shirked off.
I think that's actually what the problem is. He may have issues with his genetics where he produces too much of the anger hormones, and then tries to find a reason why he's angry and blames people who have done him wrong.
There's no forgiveness coming from a person like that, just continuing anger and blame, and maybe even vengeance.
It also would explain his treatment of sex workers and the allegations of violence against them.
He probably requires calming drugs like marijuana because without them, he would be continuously wound up.
'Harry has begun approaching Princess Diana's old friends to take part in a film about his mother, Richard Kay has claimed, in a project the royal expert says will occupy the Prince for his first year in Britain.
. . . ''I am told that one of the reasons Harry's here is to make a television film, his own film, about his mother. I know he has been reaching out to his friends and others who knew her, asking them to contribute. That's going to occupy a lot of his headspace over the next twelve months.'
I'm not sure many of Diana's old friends would want anything to do with his film but this is worrying. Firstly, we'll have Harry's biased view of the situation (mummy was murdered), then presumably William's input does not figure anywhere in this film. Is that what their film studio is for or is it for madam's exclusive use?
Arriviste Feministe
Unseen unheard
not much shared
Under par for her usual schtick
Maneki could be right
Glo’s funeral her next site
Msleading mourners
that’s sick…
Thank you abbyh
The King is in an intolerable
position, can’t do right for
doing wrong
The wheels of royalty move
slowly but surely
as hazmegxit are slow
to realise for sure
King Charles is doing fine
He set his seal and foot print,
ask Jimmy Choo, with his
Prince’s Trust
They remain at the
peoples choice
Andrew did not bring down
the monarchy
I read this recently regarding stirring the pot:
Whom ever stirs the pot, needs to be the one to lick the spoon.
I believe there is no person on earth (therapist or friend or spouse) nor medication (legal or illegal) nor situation (job or stay-at-home father or living in UK or Montecito) capable of easing his constant anger, or of disavowing his certainty that everyone (known & unknown to him) is actively out to screw him, trip him up, out to get him and make him fail through zero fault of his own. He attacks his family, royal courtiers, the press, & even publicly accused High Court Judge Mr Justice Nicklin of a "complete and obvious whitewash" after dismissal of the privacy lawsuit.
Harry indulges in his anger which he thinks is valid and righteous, and has explicitly referred to himself as a Dragon Slayer.
I don’t envision any gentle end to this distasteful situation.
'He continues to believe that he is being denied protection as a form of “punishment” for quitting royal duties and that the delay in responding to his change in circumstances is a form of “game play”.' If he wants to carry on in the same vein, he will end up even more despised and detested by the whole country if not the RF.