I am talking about Catherine and Trooping the Color. It's barely over a week away and will she/won't she decision is leaning toward not in public media. The ceremony is almost three and a half hours beginning really at 10, parade starting 10:30 and flyover at 1. That's a long time even if you are sitting. Especially if you have not been out in public in a long time plus you have or feel you have to be the face of being the parent while your spouse is busy being officially second to His Majesty. And He won't be on a horse this time (uproar over tradition). Yeah but, but ... what if she showed up for just part of it, like the flyover? OH, that would be heartwarming after worrying about her as she has been coping with her disease. But ... eh, my guess is not. Just because if she showed up, it would become the Catherine's back show instead of the celebration of the King's birthday. And Catherine is known for being able to be in the...
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Does anyone remember this?
Logically, Megs applying for asylum makes sense. That would explain the visit to Canada House. It explains the sweating. It explains the Trudeau resent. She is not a Canadian citizen and cannot stay there indefinitely. She supposedly has major tax issues in the US.
I really doubt they could return after the time of transition for anything meaningful. Perhaps a funeral? Don't know if they will get invited to weddings or christenings.
They didn't just burn that return bridge, they detonated it and salted both sides to make their point about they want to be out from under the thumb of the BRF. To think they could just come and go as they please, when it didn't conflict with something they thought more pressing> that was more than just wishful day dreaming. Abandoning the life of service to the country: people will not forget that.
Asylum in Canada to avoid US taxes? hmm. That's an interesting thought. I know that the taxes are supposed to be high but how do they rank compared to CA? And, would she be able to return to the US if the claim for asylum is true/granted?
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I think you are right about succession. But how can Harry who doesn't want any royal duties preserve his place in succession? The ultimate royal duty. This is a big issue and a huge contradiction.
If he drops the next one is who? Andrew? The public will never accept him. His daughters are much better bet.
Curiouser and curiouser as Alice said.
@fairy crocodile I agree Harry wouldn’t want to be King. So if he takes himself out of the line of succession (but only by parliament right?) does he have the authority to take Archie out on his behalf since he is a minor child? Interesting set of ideas to discuss there.
"After the controversial elevation of Lords Atholstan and Beaverbrook to the Peerage of the United Kingdom, the Nickle Resolution was presented to the House of Commons of Canada in 1917 requesting the Sovereign not to grant knighthoods, baronetcies or peerages to Canadians. This triggered the Canadian titles debate and led to a separate system of orders, decorations, and medals for Canada. Canadians who were granted peerages after that date had to hold or acquire British citizenship, such as Roy Thomson, 1st Baron Thomson of Fleet. However, the then Canadian Citizenship Act provided that Canadians who acquired foreign citizenship by any means other than marriage would renounce their Canadian citizenship".
I don't buy that the photo was her visiting the embassy. It is the same outfit as the trip to Canada House and the guy in the background looks like the guy in the background of photos of her with H outside the car before going into Canada House. He's wearing the same tie in both.
Not saying that it cannot happen but she changes her clothes a lot and doesn't often wear something to be photographed in that she recently wore.
I am disappointed by this statement. What a large fuss over nothing new. "It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." I was interpreted this grand summit as a time to work out what Megxit would look like, not decide whether Megxit was happening. Obviously they have to let them go because you can't force someone to keep a job because that's called slavery then.
Codswallop to Meghan's "anxiety". I am a staunch supporter of mental health, wellbeing, selfcare, but I also know that people get themselves in a frenzy over absolutely nothing and simply allowing them to live in their own fantasy world is also not healthy. Meghan having anxiety that there are people out there who don't find her as perfect as she needs to imagine herself to be in order to thrive, that is something a trained professional needs to help her with. No amount of Instagramming and celebrity outings will fix that. Yet people bandy around their most likely self-diagnosed mental health and mental illnesses as if it's a trend or to excuse unfathomable behaviour, instead of seeking actual professional treatment or just a healthy dose of no, it's not your mental illness or personal stressors/crises speaking when you freak out on other people for your own issues. You are an emotionally immature person and need to grow up and learn the world doesn't revolve around you. End of.
@Marie, I agree with you 100% regarding mental health and her supposed "anxiety attacks."
Well said.
This seems like a biggie:
Duke and Duchess who? The Queen refers to 'Harry and Meghan' in Sandringham statement in a hint they WILL lose their HRH titles
It is not so much funding and more like reimbursement for costs associated with royal duties. (Most of them make far more appearances and have far more patronages than the Sussexes, but their operational expenses are far less.)
The Sussexes were living large, in the stratosphere in comparison with other full-time working royals.
The Queen’s father didn’t want it either (but was duty bound) and the Queen Mother always felt like the stress led to his early death, so maybe the Queen understands and accepts Harry’s point of view?
Also, just because Harry would never want it doesn’t mean Archie wouldn never want it. That kid might get his mother’s ambition, etc.
@fairy Croc that’s it, thanks for finding it about titles in Canada.
Hilarious!
I bet she is spinning to get an invite for the occasion. I bet she doesn't get it.
This seems like a biggie:
Duke and Duchess who? The Queen refers to 'Harry and Meghan' in Sandringham statement in a hint they WILL lose their HRH titles
Maybe the BRF could give him a shot of "anti-Viagra" ?!?! By the time Rach finishes with him if/when he gets back to Canada, I am guessing he won't need Viagra or Sussex Condoms ever again lol.
Tatty
re this I expect that Harry will go to Canada Thursday or Friday and If he doesn’t, then that would be something to make me go hummmmm...
Agree, Tatty, if the timeline is delayed I expect it's either H dragging his feet and/or the BRF about to drag Rach. About your tin hat question, totally tin hat (not that I don't have one that fits well, too, lol) and please don't summon the dark lord on me for saying that ;)
Octobergirl
"Meghan Markle has the 'full support' of her mother Doria Ragland, as she and Prince Harry quit as senior royals, a friend exclusively told DailyMail.com"
How long until Doria comes out with an "I don't know her and I never said that" statement?
DesignDoctor, thank you and I love your comments as well, and always Ctrl+F for yours. I appreciate your understanding re the shackles that bind me to my life, too, so just FYI, I've set up a GO Fund Me page: Unshackle-Elle-Living-Not-Existing@gofundme.com. Feel free to donate copious amounts. There's also a monthly payments option. Free "Sussex Minus 1" postcards to the first 10 contributors.
I have considered all of this, and here's where I am now:
1. I've always believed this is the long-game and BRF must consistently do the "We tried, we really, really tried" re Rach. It was inevitable that she'd cut and run, it was just a long wait, and she's like the cockrach in her ability to survive. Fun fact: A cockroach can live for a week without its head! Rach may have extended this due to her larger size.
2. More time for the BRF is a good thing. I still think separation might be next up.
3. I still think Rach is about to get some MI6ing. There is no other reason I can think of that someone like Alexis/Serena would cut to such obvious & derisive tweets re the charlatan unless there were real reason. I think that this is something about which the "friends" have been given a heads up, and they're bailing now. There is a reason for that. Be afraid, Rach, be very afraid.
4. I am not sure where Archie is, and it's interesting that "young family" is all we've heard. His name has not been mentioned. I'm 51/49 now re divorce - will it be Cool Single Dad Harry or Miserable, Drunken, Married Dad Harry, because while the former might not happen (as in, IDK if H can be a cool, single dad), the latter will certainly be the outcome if he stays with her.
Applying for Asylum requires a compelling case of danger to the person and/or the family of the person. However the person cannot claim asylum from a country they are not a citizen of. Reason being is at that stage they are usually about to be deported or have gone to a country without a visa/residency.
The person for whom asylum is established has no legal right to demand it, and the sheltering state has no obligation to grant it.
It is most often applied for on the basis of race, nationality, religion, political opinion and membership of a particular social group. There has to be significant and compelling arguments to indicate the person is in imminent danger of persecution and/or physical harm.
If a individual is not a resident or visa holder of that country and they apply for asylum while it is processed and before a decision is made they are often put on a version of a "bridging visa". This is not the same as a substantive visa and only allows them temporary legal status in that country. This does not allow them to work in the country or travel.
>>>If Harry and Archie stay in the line of succession, there will be no Kraken released. Suppose Charles gets cancer or has a heart attack and dies either before his kingship or shortly after. William becomes king. Like PP’s sister, what if (GOD FORBID) they all fly together and the plane crashes. Harry and Archie are now up. In this far fetched but theoretically possible scenario, Archie would become king one day.<<<
You misunderstand my use of Release the Kraken here. The Kraken I am referring to is the theoretically possible scenario that Archie does not technically exist to be in the line of succession anywhere. Yes, we've seen Meg handling a cute child who was at least some of the time, animated.
Despite the Queen's fleeting reference to welcoming her 8th great grandchild, I still have not had these questions answered to my satisfaction:
1. Who are Archie's actual genetic donors? Is Harry one of them?
A surrogate baby is no less a genuine child, though perhaps not a genuine heir to the throne of Great Britain. I could give a toss about that--my concern is for the health and well-being and happiness of this little person. In short, I think a Great White Shark is a more caring mother than is Meghan. My personal opinion.
2. Does Archie live full-time with H. and M.? Does this couple who notoriously has lost all their staff three or four times over since they have been married have a competent child care arrangement/nanny/nannies?
Meg and Harry have been absent a whole lot since Archie's birth on various vanity projects both singly and together. The Queen left her babies in the care of nannies for months at a time, and paid a price for it in terms of her relationships with her children, but she was the sovereign strengthening ties with her dominions and showing her care for her global subjects. Harry and Meghan lit out to peddle Meghan's Merching Merde & to hobnob with celebs in Italy, New York and on a urine colored carpet. Haz spent the weekend in Amsterdam riding a bicycle while his wife was ostensibly 'in labor'. Large differences. Also we have fairly strong anecdotal evidence that H. and M. often appear impaired on substances based on their demeanor, sweatiness, dishevelment, inappropriate laughter and wild, glazy eyes. This concerns me if there is an infant involved.
3. Where is Archie now, and with whom?
4. Is the child we have seen pictured with H. and M. a handful of times since his birth actually theirs, or is he(she) a baby model hired by the appearance?
I know it sounds far-fetched, but given Meg's very unique pregnancy and elasticity with the truth, we have to at least entertain the idea. I find the possibility that both Harkles lied to his family and to the public about this child more likely in the odds of probability than of 5 heirs dying in a fiery plane crash together so that Archie may ascend the throne. Meg loves that idea . . with herself as Regent, of course.
I'm fairly sure a Regent ruler must actually be a citizen of Great Britain for starters. DNA would be another issue.
If the BRF is complicit in covering up a fraud where Archie is concerned, albeit after the fact, they probably will not release the Kraken on themselves in this regard. But down the road some royal biographer or intrepid journalist will find out and the Kraken will be out.
Let's see how many Archie sightings we actually get, now that he is ostensibly a political refugee in Canada along with his persecuted mother.
Need to clarify. Did Meg say she wanted to be Bezos or do Bezos?
"I prefer the stress-free life of rocking on the porch, myself, and having a small enough company so that I can work when I want."
Oops. forgot
But how do we know that this leak (asylum sought) is true now? How reliable is the source?
And, would the math of taxes make sense if that is the real reason? Cue more paper in the next meeting if true and a return of soft and hard. How would Harry respond to the new change?
Does it make sense to be claim asylum in such a way that you may not be able to return to the US? as in goodby LA. The IRS can and does carry guns when meeting with someone who has gone a tad AWOL but suddenly appears in the US.
As for if it were some treason charge, that would really cut off any money pretty much from almost every source. Certainly all the BRF. Perhaps gifts but you cannot mention my name because I still want to maintain ties with the real royals. Asylum is not a short and simple claim. Something like several years ...
@ozmanda doesn’t asylum also go hand in hand with defection?
I can’t see why Meghan would want to defect from the USA given how many reports we have of her eventually wanting to get back to LA.
This should be required as part of the final agreement, tattoo it on her backside as a warning to the next fool:
If she can't make money, she'll go on to her next mark.
"Losing Duke & Duchess but keeping the Sussex surname is actually a pretty good deal for the RF... because the only other option if they lost their royal titles & dukedom would be to use Mountbatten-Windsor... and I doubt Prince Phillip wants them to sully that last name with H&Ms cheap desperate merching/commercial deals... MM merching off just Sussex is a hellava lot better than Duke & Duchess or Sussex Royal..."
I too thought Megsie would bolt. I gave it 3 to 5 years, though. To not even make it to the second anniversary is very accelerated, but then, she's always been precocious and she'll be the first to tell you.
It is. But what a sh*tty deal for the residents of Sussex. Bet they will froth at the mouth if this occurs.
She appears to not be able to adjust to no longer being in the spotlight. In 2017 and 2018 it was the engagement, wedding, and then pregnancy announcement soon after. She had all eyes on her and was determined to keep it that way, it seems. 2019 was a hot mess for H&M, and now, not even a full month into 2020, they are leaving.
I would believe that MM is not capable of sharing attention. This is one reason she's not showing off Archie. Perhaps they were told to lay low this year, and this is their response. Poor Beatrice!
But maybe that is my brain over analysing :)
We'll see if this prediction is true, but I think the Anonymoushouseplantfan poster is on to something.
Prediction: It will be a wedding filled with love and happiness, and it will be in private because those girls will not want their father having to endure the shame of walking her into that church televised and photographed. (He messed up but he is their dad.)
‘What does the Queen's statement on Harry and Meghan say and what does it mean? The seven clues in Her Majesty's words about the future of the Sussexes.’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7882673/Sussexes-Harry-Meghan-going-forward-clues-does-Queens-statement-give.html
hard to tell with the announcement - they are mentioned by name three times: the first two are by first names only, the last is "the Sussexes".
So - do they keep the titles and HRH? in the transition only?
And from the DM "Heading into talks this afternoon, Her Majesty was said to want guarantees that the proposed Sussex business empire does not damage the Family. "
Current feelings (going by the comments, the articles) is that the British public and some Canadians want them stripped of their titles and any subsidy. Conversely, the RF remembers post Wales divorce, the outcry over Diana losing the HRH, not the title. The public is fickle - but this time this American believes the public supports the Queen, and are horrified at the way she has been treated by family. I hope she is able to deal in tough love and takes it all away.
Make no mistake that the outcome of talks between Prince Harry, his wife Meghan, and the rest of the royal family is, beyond the tittle tattle and gossip about the individuals, of national significance.
At the centre of it are two members who no longer see it as their calling, and who wish to, up to a point, go it alone. Whatever their motivations, service to the nation, and the constraints that brings with it, is not on their agenda. The royal family can ill afford to keep such people on board, when service to the nation is its calling.
[...]. there have been stories that the duke and duchess would be prepared to go on US daytime television to give a no-holds barred account of racism and sexism at the heart of the royal household, should such a move to strip them of their titles go ahead. To a palace on the defensive, it might be tempting to capitulate to this threat.
Under no circumstances can this be allowed to happen.
[...] there remains the fact that if there really is sexism and racism at the heart of the British state, it is a profoundly distasteful thing for anyone with knowledge of it to keep it quiet, much less use that silence as a bargaining chip in return for hush money and status.
Should the couple wish to traduce the titles by selling their stories, or threatening to, then that tells the public exactly what value they place on them — on offices that should exist to serve the people — and how much, or little, they deserve them.
The duke and duchess may want a way out of the royal family — and if so, it should be made as easy as possible for them. But, though to spare the family pain, there may be a desire to bend to their demands and allow them a halfway house, that would undermine the credibility of the institution.
If Harry and Meghan place so little store in their current roles, the royal family cannot cave to them, for to do so would be to, in essence, agree with their stance that the service and duty associated with royalty is not as important as naked self interest. At which point, one has to ask, what is the point of it at all?
1. The queen didn't use the words "Duke" or "Duchess". She used the term "the sussexes" on reference to the transition. Perhaps their titles or removal of titles are something to be formalized in coming days.
2. She said "quit" not "limit duties", " scale back", etc. It seems they will not be working royals.
3. She said "the young family". They aren't " young" they are middle aged aka mid thirties. No mention of Archie. Hope there is clarification to come.
4. Love they choose not to accept public funds. I bet the former Duchess screamed like a banshee on that one. She wants as many funds she can get!
Waiting to see if any of the other players have comments. It will be an interesting week or however long the negotiations and transition take.
Bet MM does something really impulsive next. She is likely to have anger issues in addition to anxiety. Bless her narcissistic heart.
Picturing her in a straight jacket and that annoying white hat.
Rumor has it that these will be specifically designed by Harry to be 'claw-proof', but you can't always believe what you read ;), NeutralO
http://www.thecourtjeweller.com/2020/01/tiara-troubles-meghans-uncertain-royal.html
As for Megs' panic attacks, not to worry. I've known Wall Street execs who did everything from pull out their phone lines regularly to beating up hookers in the lobbies of their expensive & exclusive co-ops on occasion. Doesn't mean they or she are victims, or nice, just means she needs treatment, & Archie should not be allowed near her.
I also think that the BRF will burn her down with MI6 info. They can do that without hurting Archie, though regardless of what happens here, H is going to get splatter on him.
Where exactly is the word quit? Maybe my eyes are failing me from so much reading, but I don't see it.
Lost in the Sussex excitement in yesterday's DM was a headline "TALK OF THE TOWN: Princess Beatrice 'would rather there was more distance' between fiance Edo Mapelli Mozzi and ex Dara Huang - who recently cut his hair and still helps him buy clothes."
"Friends say that until now, Dara and Edo – who were engaged and have a three-year-old son together called Wolfie – have been able to maintain a firm friendship because they share parental responsibilities and ‘Bea is in New York all the time’ for work.
But the Princess has been in London much more lately and perhaps she has begun to notice that she doesn’t always have Edo to herself."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7877219/TALK-TOWN-Princess-Beatrice-beau-Edo-forget-glamorous-ex-Dara-Huang.html
Family indicates a couple with children, so Archie is indirectly referenced. Otherwise it would be “couple”
Not taking public money had to be part of it. The Sussex would be out of their minds if they thought they could do this and take public money. I’m sure that was a hard no, no further discussion allowed.
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Published 13 January 2020
Today my family had very constructive discussions on the future of my grandson and his family.
My family and I are entirely supportive of Harry and Meghan’s desire to create a new life as a young family. Although we would have preferred them to remain full-time working Members of the Royal Family, we respect and understand their wish to live a more independent life as a family while remaining a valued part of my family.
Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives.
It has therefore been agreed that there will be a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the UK.
These are complex matters for my family to resolve, and there is some more work to be done, but I have asked for final decisions to be reached in the coming days.
ENDS
Perhaps they will lose their titles but get the surname Sussex. I'm sure Philip doesn't want them called Mountbatten-Windsor.
Philip and Elizabeth used to tell friends they were holding on to power for as long as they could, because they knew Charles was hopeless. They made it to 91 and 96 respectively before starting to seriously hand over the reins.
Surprise, surprise, Charles really is hopeless. The Sussex disaster can be 100% laid at his door. He knew Meghan was trouble and could have delayed the wedding.
So when did Meghan Markle actually begin to deceive? In my book, it was a long time ago. One thing is for sure, she never planned to toe the Royal party line for long. Of the many lies she told leading up to her marriage, she claimed she was single, innocently set up on a blind date and didn’t really know who Harry was. Was Harry given the go ahead to marry a woman who admitted she would openly defy the protocols required of her in exchange for a HRH title, world-wide fame and untold fortune? Of course not. She must have also lied about her willingness to serve the Queen and the people of the UK as dictated by tradition. And they believed her? It was only 16 months after her lavish wedding that the Africa tour and phase one of detonation took place. She and Harry tipped everyone off with his nervous breakdown and Meghan’s pity party during the documentary. In those 16 months, Meghan criticized for a long list of legitimate shortcomings and disturbing behaviors. She chose which dignitaries she would not meet notably Donald Trump, twice. I’m sure this endeared her to millions worldwide but that’s not the point. She knew what her role was, and within months was in flagrant violation of protocol. She also chose her own vanity projects embarrassing herself and the royal family along the way. There is ample evidence of her disregarding Harry and manhandling him beginning with their engagement interview. There is also ample video and photographic evidence that Meghan was padding her pregnancy for whatever reason but suffice it to say if she was 8 weeks or so at Eugenie’s wedding she shouldn’t have been showing. No reason to upstage the wedding then - that was pure sport. So within the 16 months that led to the orchestrated implosion just how much work did she do before she burnt out? If she and Harry plan on capitalizing on their “new progressive role," it will be difficult. Except for their new found circle of friends (enablers looking for a payout) egging them on, what have they demonstrated/achieved as Duke and Duchess of Sussex that should engender them to a cash paying customer base. They are quitters, phonies, liars, whiners, hypocrites, with fading looks. What’s the appeal?
@nutty, Uugh. I never had a good feeling about him. But, like Harry, I like Bea and really want her to be happy and for it to work out. He seems to have an eye for the camera. He may not like this drama and things changed with Andrew since Edo first came along. But supposedly they have been friends for a long time, so... maybe it’s much to do about nothing.
Our food is woefully deficient, as farmers don't rotate crops. Also, even blood tests can't tell if you're deficient, because it only tests blood, not what's in the cells.
Carry on...
The first time we'll be able to see whether or not Meghan will ever return to the UK might be Philip's funeral. Or the Queen's. Meg is likely to do a will-she-or-will-she-won't dance to make the event all about herself.
Diana once said she believed Charles would never be King, and supposedly told her butler Paul Burrell that "my husband is not fit for the top job."
The Telegraph's Matthew Lynn just published a piece entitled, "Sorry, Harry and Meghan, Brand Sussex is probably not worth very much". My thoughts precisely. When someone has a successful personal brand, it's because people on some level want to be like them - Marie Kondo, Martha Stewart, even Kylie Jenner. Who wants to be like ridiculous Meg? Or henpecked Harry? Very few, is my guess.
Royal expert said Queen's words on Harry and Meghan are 'friendly and warm'
Penny Junor believes Queen was 'carefully handling' the 'vulnerable Sussexes'
The Queen's words came after a summit at Sandringham on the couple's future “
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7883121/Royal-expert-dissects-Queens-warm-statement-Harry-Meghan.html
You, me, and the public seem to agree that William would be a better fit for the role.
I don't think Charles is a bad guy, but I think he is the wrong fit for the role, which requires a strong spine and a little ruthlessness.
Still, she says what she says. How many countries understand this?
If I had to translate ( I am not British or American ) I live under the equator, it translates as " sad to see you go, but good luck and best wishes. Do keep in touch. Love you lots. Chat again soon.
Nutty Flavor
Just to bump up a comment I made on the last thread:
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Since we've had several "Unknowns" over the evening who can be confused with each other, I'd like to ask regular posters to kindly create a screen name for themselves so we know who we're speaking to.
If you're worried about privacy, I suggest creating a new email address you don't use for anything else. Gmail makes this easy.
FWIW, strict EU privacy laws mean that I can see only your screen name, not your email address or your location.
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January 13, 2020 at 8:18 AM
You don't need to use a different email adres; if you're logged into Google, you can hit the preview button the first time you want to post and edit your screen name, IIRC. That's what I did the first time I posted, as this is not the name associated with my email address.
Vince
@Nutty - agree, William being "controlling" is exactly what is needed at this moment, and going forward. Someone has to take control of matters.
@abbyh (from last thread) - I think the supposed "bullying" is because Wills (and others) let Meghan know her place in the firm. And my guess is that Wills, and others, were not happy with Meghan's desire to cash out using the royal charities and titles.
Should be an interesting day.
Someone I know, who does not follow the royals, said this to me earlier tonight. This person is a male, as I am:
"Harry is not a victim. He knows exactly what he's doing, and he just wanted to elevate himself because he was always going to be a footnote to his brother."
This is my own feeling, as well. Has Meghan manipulated Harry and brought out the worst in him? I think yes. But Harry could stop this if he wanted to do so.
The royal family seems short on leadership at the moment, people who will make a stand for what is right and stop allowing things to become out of control. Prince Charles and Harry look lost on that front. This situation creates a power vacuum, one which can be easily exploited by someone like Meghan.
Here's hoping Wills can help make things right.
January 13, 2020 at 8:28 AM
Re the controlling: yes! I found the DM article about the finger pointing at QEII's secretary (Geidt's replacement) so embarrassing! They were basically blaming the newly arrived staff, picked because Charles and Andrew allegedly wanted someone "weak" (in comparison to Geidt), on their lack of order in the royal household. The whole "PP was the enforcer and no there's no one to replace him" that other posters have commented on also strikes me as odd in the same vein: what kind of family, other than a mob family, needs an enforcer? How about setting some boundaries, keep control of the purse strings and stop indulging every one of your (grand)children?
I hope the article wasn't true in that staff was being blamed (and demands were made by senior royals to fire them) because it paints a very poor picture of the royal familya and QEII's ability to keep them in line.
As for the rest of your post, I'm in total agreement in regards to Harry not being a victim.
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Nutty, I am a first time poster and I am behind in reading everything. For ease of tracking where one left off in reading, could you make the posts be 50 per page instead of 100? I don't mind having many pages to read with fewer posts per page instead of fewer pages but many posts per page. Would really appreciate if you could consider this. Thank you.
January 13, 2020 at 8:52 AM
Have you tried subscribing to the posts by checking the "email follow-up comments to [your email account]"? That way you'll get all the replies in your inbox and in the case of gmail, it'll cluster per 100 and within those it keeps track of which you've read and which you haven't (by collapsing read comments).
Credibility: how on earth can Harry represent the Queen and Country on the world stage when he has essentially told everyone he no longer wishes be part of the Establishment? State visits, foreign funerals, royal weddings - it would be making a mockery of the host country.
January 13, 2020 at 6:29 PM
It makes me wonder if there's a polite way of saying "no thanks, we'd rather have a different royal or none at all" bby a host country or charity etc. Wouldn't it be great if that Rugby league Harry's scheduled to attend this week politely declines his royal duty?
Lost the other comments I wanted to quote so doing it by heart:
@Elle: how would you know how long it takes anyone to scroll past several long and rather unrelated posts on their personal devices which may or may not have adjusted settings for readability/scrollability?
@Elle/Hikar: it's one thing to go off on (imo rather boring and too frequent) tangents that are off-topic that are relatively easy to ignore, but please refrain from posting song lyrics in full. If you, for some reason, absolutely must post lyrics, then how about a line or two to show the link to H&M and a link to the lyrics elsewhere? There are hundreds of comments on Nutty's topics lately and scrolling past all the infighting/whining is bad enough already.
@Nutty
Perhaps it's an idea to go from a blog to a forum? You could keep a separate subforum with news/your posts, one about H&M in relation to the other BRF members and maybe an off-topic area where people can discuss their cashmere sweaters, family illnesses, personal experiences with narcs, relatives with mental health disorders, favorite teas, food and drinks recipes, their resumes, personal achievements, family fortunes and whatnot.
It would definitely make it easier to keep track of whichever interests you (as in, the members), could make it easier to sign up as a member to avoid all the unknowns/anynomous, assign moderators to keep the peace while you can write more posts, (temporarily) ban members if they break the rules, and I'm sure there are many more benefits.
And it wouldn't have to cost much. If every frequent poster donates a dollar, euro, pound or whatever, you should be good for at least a year. Some people might want to donate more or less/nothing, others might prefer to buy you a "ko-fi" to support the website.
If Gwyneth can make her brand Goop work, despite the most of us here, if not all, finding it absolutely farfetched, then I have no problem seeing Meghan picking away at a similar crowd.
And this bit seems either poorly phrased or implies that they will receive public funding at least throughout the transition period, however long that may be:
"Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives. It has therefore been agreed that there will be a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the UK."
Let's hope the comments from the public about kicking them out with no additional money and a bill for the Frogmore renovations reaches the BRF and makes them reconsider their financial plan. Harry's already got tons of money, more than the majority of Brits put together, and he's been given handouts his whole life. Let him touch his trustfund/savings like most people have to when they quit/lose their job.
Gwyneth Paltrow was an A list, Oscar winning actress though. The Goop thing was a sideline for her, not her 'day job'. She was already a well-established star. Also, Goop was the original celebrity 'lifestyle' brand, and the market has become much more crowded since then. Meghan tried it with her vapid 'TIg' site, with only very limited success. Obviously she's vastly more famous since then so would have much wider reach, but take away the HRH, and especially given all the people she's alienated this past week alone, and I don't see her making a fortune flogging wellness retreats and Zen candles.
Great idea with the forum. The cost is not a problem, but the time involved in maintenance is.
This whole blog basically arose out of a desire to discuss the Sussexes outside of CDAN, where every other comment was "You're delusional!" "You're racist!" etc. Google Blogger made it easy to set up.
It's not a moneymaking enterprise, and it uses up a fair amount of time, which I don't mind because I enjoy the company of all the other Nutties and it's great to be able to discuss the ongoing Sussex case.
The idea of putting *more* time into it isn't too appealing, however, particularly when a lot of that time would involve programming/design/community management as opposed to writing, which is the part I enjoy.
As the owner of a tiny and antiquated phone, I understand how annoying it must be to scroll past the commenters you do not like.
That said, I've been doing it for years on CDAN. Years. I scroll past some of their most famous commenters with nary a pause.
Anyway, not going to argue with you. Some of us have been on the blog for a long time, and have chats between ourselves.
Probably simpler if, from now on, you just scroll past my comments, so you don't have to monitor me. I scroll past plenty of comments I find boring/tin-hatty/offensive, etc., and it really saves time since I don't have to be negative to those Nuttiers. I just go find the ones I like. Cheers!
It seems Markle may have been as 'insanely smart' as she thinks she is. Her and Harry captured the world's attention with their demands and it brought the Queen and two heirs to the a reckoning of sorts. The Queen had to wish them a heartfelt Goodbye but not before she said it was not how she wanted to things to end. No, the Queen wanted them to remain fulltime royals but the Harkles won that point too, Then they are now off to Canada and that surely couldn't have been what the Monarch (nor Charles I suppose) wanted; thus their third win. No mention of stripping them of their titles, and again a (4th) win for the Dynamic duo (do you really think the Queen can revoke them in a few days, think again the optics would be really dreadful). Financial independence, well the Harkle's asked for that and got it (maybe with a soft transition),
All in all it does seem they got everything and more what they asked for. Npw the old saying 'The Crown always wins" might be altered to say
'The Crown doesn't win if its held by a Has-been' or
'The Crown belongs in a trash bin since it doesn't win"...maybe even
'The Crown wins if on the head of men".. and
'The Crown doesn't win when it comes to kin'...or
'The Crown and Gin doesn't make a win' ( a referenc to the Queen's deink)
'The Crown doesn't win against Sin' (a reference to sleazy madame sussex
This is all speculation so don't shoot the speculator. I really wish the Crown would win and maybe there is a long game, after all 'one can win the battle but lose the war'.
Excellent idea re Sussex brand name. I can see a range of gardening tools "Sussex Claw" or cooking utensils "Sussex Wok". Or condoms "SusSex thin - you weren't sense a thing"!
I am sickened by this whole sorry saga. How this conniving woman gets what she wants is completely beyond me and I hope that the Queen has something up her sleeve. They should not be able to merch and be called HRHs. It is just plain wrong.
Hmmm - I'm missing the fly reference. Could you elaborate?
Also, from what I can see, many of Meg's most ardent sugars are Black women. Can the Sussexes create, produce, and distribute products that will appeal to Black women? Seriously, Meg seems to know very little about Black culture. She's always lived in a mostly White world, and the Black celebrities she likes to pretend she's close to (Serena, Michelle, Oprah, Gayle) are all backing away from her. Who else might be interested in buying Sussex-brand products?
I don't think many men would want to buy Prince Harry-brand products. He's seen as henpecked.
I think Neutral was referring to your "magnesium and persistent body odor" remark. Flies looove strong odors.
I understand how annoying it must be to scroll past the commenters you do not like. That said, I've been doing it for years on CDAN. Years. I scroll past some of their most famous commenters with nary a pause.
It's funny to me (and I know I'm guilty of the same, so this is not a personal insult towards any Nuttier, just an observation) that people always assume that their comments are riveting, witty and insightful, of interest to all, and that it's only the others who are annoying. I'm not sure that's how that works lol. Maybe if everyone stopped to consider that their comments are appreciate by some, rolled past by others, it would put this into perspective, and we could just stick to commenting to the Nuttiers with whom we've an affinity and/or respectful point to share.
It's also a shame about Bea, and I do think that's foreshadowing of things to come, but if it's going to blow up, far better for it to blow up now.
Maturity level of middle school. Leaving a beloved brother. This is wrong. All for what? To go merch in North America? You will not be happy. Poor William. He can well see into the future and what will become of his brother. Harry is an Englishman. He son was born in England.
He will lose his identity in chaotic US. The celeb world will grow old. Look at how it affects so many of them.
It is an empty vapid life.
Perhaps Meg has tax/ citizenship/ residency issues. She isn't good at details such as regulations and taxes. Perhaps with 3 or 4 marriages ( 1 US, 1 CA , 1 UK I think) and jetsetting there are irregularities.She may owe taxes or have a criminal charge.
Wonder if there are issues with Archie's immigration or other paperwork. If Archie is with her.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7882589/Prince-Harry-Prince-William-Prince-Charles-leave-Sandringham-separate-cars.html
Had a day of appointments - lots ofwaiting and scrolling on the phone while hanging out with the nutties.
The sordid mess is at the end of the last post, if you want to read about it. I was just tired of the conflict and wanted Nutty's input about whether or not my departure would help. Simple as that. I wasn't fighting with or @ing anyone.
Anyway, I think that we just all want to see how this rolls out, and it's quite frustrating for those of us who've been following it a long time. I was reading here last winter (?) and finally got up the nerve to comment well before the birth of Archie. At that time, it was a core group, and I've got to say that I've learned so much, and bizarrely enough, a lot of what we thought would happen is happening now, so we're quite invested.
Archie is still the biggest key, I think, and Hikari has had some of the best insight re that, so IMO she can post all the song lyrics she wants. I really enjoy the different perspectives and ideas, but I also like it to be fun and to have a laugh with it, because really, that's the real point of this IMO. That and to find out WTH is going on with Archie lol.
The Queen’s statement is vague and deliberately so. I’m not sure whether it’s a British thing, but I know some things written overhere are not always black and white, and you need to read between the lines. The Royal Families’ statements are often written this way. It’s not what they say, it’s what’s left unsaid or missing. They are stickler for protocol, so I can see things missing which I know would have been included if they were certain to be staying or continued.
More clarity might transpire over the next few days, well, that’s what’s being reported on our news.
As far as The Queen's grand statement today. I'm not sure what to think.
Via DM>>> 'Harry and Meghan have BULLIED the Queen into getting their way': Piers Morgan wades into row after palace statement
Piers Morgan tweeted: 'Harry/Meghan have successfully bullied the Queen into letting them have their cake & eat it'
I agree with you about the look on William's face. His jaw was clenched so tightly. I have never seen such a look on him. I can only imagine how furious, sad, frustrated, annoyed, pissed off, hurt, etc, etc he is!! And let's be honest, I am sure he is just beyond livid at Meghan. He's probably one of the only ones who doesn't dance around his dislike for her.
I believe that the Royal Family is relatively sheltered to people of Meghan's ilk. As worldy wise as they think they are, they are absolutely not. My Uncle always said there is always 'someone that can get over on anyone'. Also, they are so afraid of repeating past mistakes with spouses ie. Diana, Camilla, Fergie, and even further back to Edward and Wallis, that they are making terrible decisions. Massive lapses in judgement. I think the racism card is terrifying to the Queen and Charles. I think William isn't worried about the racism card because frankly, he KNOWS the reasons he dislikes Meghan and it has nothing to do with her ethnicity.
Unfortunately I think there will be very few consequences for Harry and Meghan. The Royal Family will act as if there are consequences, but they will be so minor as to be laughable to H & M. So... It's kind of sad all the way around. One thing I do feel is that this situation has greatly diminished H & M's popularity, such as it is. There are some Americans that are happy for them, but I think the majority are NOT. I was laughing to read the Obamas distancing themselves. That must make Meghan so mad.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7883451/Inside-Megxit-summit-Harry-talked-Queen-story.html
Re the fly at the wedding, maybe it also could smell a load of, shall I say it delicately, bull excrement.
Meghan really is a human wrecking ball.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7883451/Inside-Megxit-summit-Harry-talked-Queen-story.html
I think it's normal for folks to ricochet around a lot. Normal banter and social interaction, just like sitting with pals at a get together. Love the blog.
Is it the Tlingit who need the help from provincial govt. for water or? Megs is so famous for helping folks get water in Africa, maybe she can do something for the local tribe.
Of course, this just occurred to me. Tlingits are famous for being very fierce so hope she'd not do anything that would offend them! And from the last merde show by her and her inability to respect other cultures... might not be a good idea for her to show up at a tribal council meeting.
RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: And the Oscar for Best Actress goes to... Meghan Markle
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7883383/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Oscar-Best-Actress-goes-Meghan-Markle.html
Is there a "find" thing on your guyses' phones? Hope so.
I remember watching video of this event and seeing Harry reach over and sort of pat Wills on the back, and Wills froze. And of course, because it wasn't tense enough, this was the event where Rach showed up dressed like she was straight out of Tent City hauling poor Archie/Fauxrchie. Apparently, a huge family row and hurt feelings weren't quite enough; she had to show up for the photo op, and to make Kate uncomfortable, too.
It's nice of Rach & H to blame Charles, though apparently, their anger didn't keep them from taking millions of dollars from him:
The Sun can reveal the Sussexes believe courtiers at Buckingham Palace and Clarence House are responsible for a series of leaks portraying them as difficult and divas.
It has created a toxic atmosphere between Harry and his embattled father Prince Charles. A source close to Harry and Meghan revealed: “They have not been able to trust people working within Buckingham Palace or Clarence House for some time.
Thank you, PortCityGirl. You're right. I'd describe his look as sad, but resolved. I like this, though:
After Princes Charles, William and Harry left the Norfolk estate in three separate cars this evening, the Daily Mail's editor-at-large Richard Kay revealed Meghan was barred from dialing in on the meeting from Vancouver.
Palace officials said such an idea was rejected because no one knew for sure who else might have been listening in.
An insider said: 'This was a highly confidential family discussion, not a conference call.'
I am sure William is the "controlling" type, as in mature, executive, in control, understands the gravity of the situation and the appropriate and required behavior. Rach's efforts to turn Buckingham Palace into a Stuckey's most certainly did not sit well. Rachel is the kid who grabbed whatever candy she wanted and did so without paying, no one made her put it back, and even worse, they paid for it for her after she left. That is Rach today, but the candy just got bigger, and Wills was probably one of the first to tell her unequivocally NO.
Can't people stay on topic and quit rehashing their slights just selfishly eliciting sympathy and keeping the mess going (by telling people to look up their perceived slights) For one, I deleted comments and this person found that objectionable (classic 'damned if you do and damned if you don't). They always to do the passive-aggressive thing by throwing in an apology or saying they might do some of the same behavior but then wham they go on ad naseum about others adding more negativity. Can't you tell them to move on instead of wallowing and bellowing like a wounded water buffalo.
Apparently Harry and Wills had a huge blowout before the polo tournament where Meghan showed up in that green dress holding Archie weirdly.
From the Sun article:
Tensions between the pair have grown since, with Wills accusing Harry of “changing” and “speaking rudely to staff”.
These two are something else:
Meanwhile, Harry and Meghan have accused rival palaces of stirring up hate against them in an escalation of the War of the Windsors.
The Sun can reveal the Sussexes believe courtiers at Buckingham Palace and Clarence House are responsible for a series of leaks portraying them as difficult and divas.
It has created a toxic atmosphere between Harry and his embattled father Prince Charles. A source close to Harry and Meghan revealed: “They have not been able to trust people working within Buckingham Palace or Clarence House for some time.
“The old conservative brigade has been out to get them for some time and they’re well aware of that.
Imagine their next argument/conversation will be something like, "DAMN Harry! Why didn't you say this? or tell Wills that? or ... grrrrr... I told you not to accept ... "
>>>>"Friends say that until now, Dara and Edo – who were engaged and have a three-year-old son together called Wolfie – have been able to maintain a firm friendship because they share parental responsibilities and ‘Bea is in New York all the time’ for work.
But the Princess has been in London much more lately and perhaps she has begun to notice that she doesn’t always have Edo to herself."<<<
Indeed, this sounds like a recipe for insecurity. But Beatrice has chosen a man who is a father of a very young child and by necessity that means keeping Wolfie's mum in his life, too. That is beneficial for Wolfie; maybe not so much for Bea, but this is how it is when you get involved with a partner with kids. Two of my sisters are married to divorced men who were dads of two kids each, respectively. The reality is that the the second marriage, and any kids shared together has to often take a back seat to the prior relationship a dad has with his other children . . .and any negotiated shared custody arrangements. It gets complex.
Edo seems to get in deep with his women very quickly (pun intentional, I guess!) He had a baby with Dara very quickly, and was with Bea before Wolfie was out of diapers. I have no opinion either way as to his intentions toward Bea . . the relationship with Dara's mom seems to be a 'better as friends' arrangement. If Bea and Edo should have their own baby, things could get even stickier, though.
I would counsel this couple to get extensive premarital counseling. These issues gonna keep cropping up. If she continues to spend significant time in New York, I don't see this working out long term. She loves a man who has a child with another woman, so having Edo 'all to herself' isn't really in the cards for quite a long time. He'll always be a dad and at least for the next 15, 16 years, Wolfie's custodial parent.
I was happy for her, and I hoped they would get married soon so Philip could attend, but that was before I knew that Wolfie's mom was still significantly in the picture. Given everything that's going on right now, her wedding is going to be overshadowed either way--on or off.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-51101129/harry-and-meghan-breaking-down-the-queen-s-statement
Hikari - agree about Edo and the relationship with the mother of his kid. If he was being a jerk to her, it would be all over the papers leading up to the wedding about what kind of guy he is and how this will taint her future. Insecurity is not pretty and can kill a lot of relationships.
I was reading CDAN and someone posted that the real reason M&H did all the vacationing in the sun was that she was depressed postpartum. I always thought the pregnancy was a fake but wanted to throw this out there to see what others had to say.
lyrics? eh, I don't have a problem. I have a delete key and it works.
She moves fast!
Agreement not even signed and she is rebranding ...
Sandie! oh man this is fast and is rather interesting with all the questions of will they keep the titles
Regarding taking away the HRH, which I think ABSOLUTELY needs to happen: what people are forgetting is, when Princess Diana lost her HRH status, public opinion was on her side. She was much-loved by most of the public, and that's why people reacted so negatively to her being stripped of that status. I can't imagine anyone getting up in arms over Ginge and Cringe losing it.
So, are they planning to spend six months in Canada, and six months in England? Because otherwise there are HUGE tax issues. Also, as an American citizen, Meghan can't just up and decide to live in Canada full-time. There are citizenship issues. She doesn't qualify for asylum. She was only able to live in Canada for seven years before because the production company sponsored her VISA. She has no job now, so there is no business that will sponsor her. And will the UK grant citizenship to someone who only lives in the country six months out of the year?
The queen's statement was a big nothingburger. Basically she said we want them to stay, they don't want to, so OK then. She can't MAKE them stay, so she really had no choice there. But I will be very interested to see how it shakes out regarding their titles, the money, Frogmore, RPOs, etc. Prince and Princess Michael of Kent famously joked that they'd "go anywhere for a hot meal," as they don't get a lot (relatively speaking) of money from the Crown. But the specter of members of the royal family actually being PAID to go deliver a speech somewhere, or get an "appearance fee," is beyond tacky. But that's what Harry and Meghan apparently want. Their foundation was set up so they only have to actually support charity with 5% of the proceeds. Meghan and Harry can use the rest of it as a giant slush fund. Say the foundation gets a $100,000 "donation" for her to show up at some store opening. She only has to give away $5,000 to charity. The rest of it -- $95,000 -- is basically hers to do whatever she wants with it.
This whole thing stinks to high heaven. If the BRF caves and gives them whatever they want, the British people should revolt. Why should they continue to support a couple who have called them sexist, racist, etc., and outright said they don't want to live in England or have anything to do with it? It's ludicrous.
I'd love it if they could just skip over that spineless sod Charles, as some people said, but unfortunately it just doesn't work like that. Charles will be the next king, if the monarchy continues. The United Kingdom could have to deal with his weak ass for 20 years before William becomes king.
I also think MM will use her return to the uk for events as a complete attention getting thing - “she probably sees dramatic “oh meaghan is back”? Headlines in her egotistical self narrative and these occasions will be well time for maximum impact.
@Ozmznda: I think the boos, jeers, and cat-calls that will hopefully greet her surgically-altered face will be equally dramatic.
Wonder how those vag scented candles Gwynnie is planning will sell . . . Meg is probably fuming that she didn't trademark the vag candle first. Well, there's always the male scented version. She would be good at R&D for that one. Already done the 'R' part.
'Moop' Empire . . .LOL
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Do we think Harry might throw himself off London Bridge or similar? Things really didn't go his way. I knew for a certainty that they were not going to permit Megs to 'phone in'.
My only thought about the relative capitulation of the BRF to the 'Sussex' brand is that they know a divorce is imminent. Detached from the prince, the title and the country where Sussex is and from whence she is banned for life, the Sussex brand is DOA.
She was ghosted for the meeting!
Or she was so busy hustling for her new billionaire life that she actually was not that interested in being part of the meeting.
I posted the link to the new harryandmeghansussex website. Surely she would not have done this before an agreement is reached? Could someone else have set up that website as a spoof?
EXCLUSIVE: Meet team Meghan! How Markle kept her Hollywood power lawyer, agent and business manager despite joining the royal family - and moved her company to secretive Delaware days before Megxit
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7882361/How-Meghan-Markle-kept-Hollywood-power-lawyer-agent-despite-joining-royal-family.html
Oh I do hope so...becayse that means THEY own it and she can't get it. (Cue evil laugh)
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
It's my understanding there was a special provision in the abdication for Edward. Otherwise it would have been a problem if he'd had children because they would have been in the line of succession. His being out wouldn't have automatically excluded them.
So I don't think if Harry was out that would remove Archie and it's not even clear to me how Harry could decide to remove himself proactively (without becoming Catholic.) Becoming a "private citizen" doesn't do it as Anne's kids are and are still in line. Not sure about Regency or Counselor of State responsibilities either.
Two things strike me just now about this - lets say this arrangement is what it is and they can "divide their time" between UK and Canada(*coughLAcough*)
What about Archie? Lets assume they have a child in their custody - surely it cant be good for him to grow up and constantly travel back and forth? They would have to double pay nannies (for UK and USA) and what about when he reaches schoolage?
Harry's mental state of mind - I wonder if at some point William and the BRF will attempt to have some kind of power of attorney over his fortune, properties etc - especially if he appears he is being manipulated and unable to take care of his own affairs? Now I am not saying this is the case or will happen but throwing that idea out there.
What a dysfunctional family.
Wills has Kate and the kids to go home to; Chas can go home to Highgrove and brief Camilla over some stiff martinis . . What does Haz have? A WhatsApp.
I hope he doesn't do something stupid to hurt himself. Wondering if the RPOs are going to keep watch to be sure he doesn't. Even if the Suxxits are walking away with the 'Sussex' and most of what they asked for, he had to face the full contempt of his family members unbuffered today for the first time in nearly a year.
If Harry and Meg make out like bandits in the short term, 'Short' is exactly what it's going to be. Haz will most likely be dead in 5 years and Meg will just continue to get plastic surgery until she looks like that 'Lion' lady. Given her mode of life, she's on a fast track to burnout as well. We're already seeing the ravages of her inner self coming out. The picture in the closet must be something to behold.
"What profiteth a man if gaineth the whole world but loseth his soul?"
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Lots of seeming inside info on the family and how Meghan was “recruited” and Harry having mental health issues. How the BRF is steering all of this . This person claims to be part of the extended royal family, I will pop back on here when/if they unlock their tweets.
It’s someone who seems sure of their info.
Or she . .
These two will be tabloid fodder for years to come. King Wills will make significant changes, I think. His revenge should be very cold by then.
So true! Asylum? If that's true, Rach is one whacky fruitcake. No doubt she cut in line in front of the real asylum seekers who for example, can't risk being deported to Iran or N. Korea. She cuts in front of Harry, so no doubt would jump the queue at the embassy cuz ya know, she thinks she's a VIP.
There is so much evidence like this that they were close:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7883613/Touching-pictures-bond-William-Harry-strained-special.html
HG Tudor has two new posts:
https://narcsite.com/2020/01/12/a-very-royal-narcissist-part-9/
https://narcsite.com/2020/01/13/a-very-royal-narcissist-part-10/
"The Queen has ordered staff to find a solution 'within days' to the remaining sticking points, including the couple's future funding, which is expected to impose rigid rules on their commercial activities.
One figure said: 'There will be strict instructions on branding, for example. No one wants to see the Sussexes' name on a tub of margarine.'
LOL! Meghan Margarine!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7883451/Inside-Megxit-summit-Harry-talked-Queen-story.html
Oh, and Miggy, how interesting is this! secretive Delaware companies
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/06/panama-papers-us-tax-havens-delaware
Interesting, because first she wants diplomatic privileges (no search) and then this. My ears perked up under the tin hat when I heard the magic words (diplomatic pouch), and I did have a teensy thought: what if that is what MI6 has on her? I said a long time ago that the biggest law I could see her breaking was not drugs (because, come on, half the world would be in jail then) but money laundering for high-rollers on the yachts. Lots of ways to do it, and I could see her doing that. Then diplomatic privileges, then Delaware.
@Swampwoman, how does your pinger connect these dots?
Also, this @Punkinseed
I think it's normal for folks to ricochet around a lot. Normal banter and social interaction, just like sitting with pals at a get together. Love the blog.
Agreed, I mean, there definitely shouldn't be bullying and aggression, but other than that, the convos are part of the fun and camaraderie, and we've had a lot of it.
I guess I'd understand the aggravation more if we were a highly paid board of executives charged with a time-sensitive critical mission of stopping an asteroid before it hits earth and destroys life as we know it lol, but we're not. We're a group of people on a blog talking about a woman we don't know and who may or may not have a silicone baby and a set of moonbumps in myriad sizes and colors (and when I type that, I think to myself: WTF am I doing here lol). None of what we say or do will have an impact (other than that I know they read here), and nobody is getting paid. If someone just wants the news, there's plenty online. So, really... IDGI
A month later we told how Harry “went mental” at William after the prince suggested his brother was rushing into marrying Meghan.
A source said: “William told his brother they knew nothing about her background, her intentions, what she was really like.
Hmmm. Well, The RF found out what Meghan was really like quite fast. The BBC engagement interview and the outrageously expensive Ralph & Russo dress Meghan wore for the official engagement photos were big signs. So was the Vanity Fair cover story before the engagement, which I understand was done without palace approval. Meghan was pushing hard to pressure Harry into marriage by elevating the importance of the relationship with that cover story.
She also pushed the relationship out into the public by making all sorts of claims of being harassed by media when still living in Toronto, manipulating Harry to issue his “statement” telling the press to back off. Many people who are familiar with them at that time say Meghan had an attorney write it and she played the damsel in distress to get him to ride in on his white horse and publish it.
Meghan still exploits Harry’s emotional vulnerabilities as she plays the damsel in distress. She knows that one of Harry’s deepest wounds and regrets is that as a 12 year-old boy, he couldn’t save his mother from getting into a car driven by a man who was blind drunk.
Margarine would be a very bad product for her to endorse, with its 'Pass the butter' connotations and her past career as a butterer non pareil.
Maybe she can go in halfsies with Gwynnie Paltrow on the genitalia scented candles. Those should be huge sellers! *sarcasm*
Vagina scented candles...thought it was a joke about silly Goopy's steam treatment but it is a real product. Admittedly, it would be a great gag gift for a bridal shower.
...remaining sticking points, including the couple's future funding, which is expected to impose rigid rules on their commercial activities.
One figure said: 'There will be strict instructions on branding, for example. No one wants to see the Sussexes' name on a tub of margarine.'
LOL! Meghan Margarine!
I could see that Meghan Margarine. On the other hand, she can be consistently untrustworthy about what she's not supposedly doing so I could see her telling BP that are abiding with the terms and then announcing a big promo the following week with book of snack food to eat in bed but doesn't leave crumbs or the condoms. Once that's out, how do they unring that bell? So far, they haven't had anything show up as successful at restraining her yet.
Vagina scented candles? I'm gonna give that a pass.
New website... is it because they are losing their titles and have to rebrand without the Sussex Royal?
"They should be able to pay Prince Charles and the UK back shortly."
Ha ha! Pigs will fly before that happens. No doubt the money will all be squirrelled away.
Before I head off for the night, there are some interesting conversations on the Talk Radio Twitter feed.
https://twitter.com/talkRADIO
And on this link, Dan Wootton poses a good question about Oprah and Apple.
https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1216802486016729091
Odds-on at 1/2 to become fiscally independent by 2025
3/1 is offered for their divorce within the next five years
Collapse of their marriage more likely than Serena Williams winning Wimbledon
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7883397/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-likely-divorce-rejoin-Royals-time-bookmakers-say.html
Thank you for providing Lion Lady's name. I couldn't recall it. That's the one.
I have read the Queen's statement several times . . I'm a bit punchy with overload but it seemed to ramble on a bit repetitively without saying much at all. A Windsor family specialty. Lots of 'my family' set in opposition to 'Harry and Meghan and their family.'
I think HRHs are out.
Sussex says. Duke and Duchess, on the fence.
Canada will have to eat their security costs for part of the year, but bonus! While residing in Canada they are prohibited the use of their titles. Meg could hop the border and merch away in L.A. or Delaware or where have you .. but she's overestimating the demand for pictures of 'Archie Sussex', the kid whose mom and dad used to be part of the Royal Family.
If it's the last thing Philip does on this earth, he will see the name Mountbatten removed from Harry's 'actress' and spawn. (Sorry, Archie. Making a point. I think that's a word your (alleged great great grandpa might use.) Nothing personal.
Meg will hustle her way to a slot selling vag candles on the QVC; the former Earl of Dumbarton will probably work on his cirrhosis while he tries in vain to find a decent pub with English football matches on it in L.A.
I think the Queen's 'nothingburger' speech was more like, "I know firsthand that life is long and Meg's attention span is short. Let's see how things look by the weekend. Meg might have buggered off by then to try and join the Saudi Royal family."
And to keep on topic, I really wish an abused courtier with a sense of humor could have slipped some in MM’s tea prior to the Lion King premiere. It would have gone nicely with all the other bs that night.
@Texshan: I'm not on Facebook but maybe your group will bring me on board! Geoffrey Munn's Tiaras: A History of Splendour was my "kicked my lying cheating narc husband to the curb" gift to myself.
My husband just chimed in with an opinion. “I think PH will come to regret this decision. “I used to be a prince”
ROFLLLLLMAO about the asteroid execs. Too funny!! One of my old school friends, I grew up in Kent, has a daycare in Bellevue. She's super funny all the time, so ya, we put up with a lot of noise between her jokes simply because it's so worth it! She has to have a sense of humor to take care of little kids in Bellevue! Gawd! She has some great parent stories. She'd kill Megs.
Any post meeting pictures of Harry out there? We've seen the displeasure on William's face, what about Harry? Where is he staying while in England?
Tin foil hat theory: Theoretically, not just $$$ could be in her diplomatic bags, but thumb drives, documents, mobile phones, laptop. She could be the go-between person to launder information between parties that otherwise that cannot meet face to face due to possible ongoing investigations... naturally she'd do this after said parties have made generous contributions to her Sussex Foundation.
Re: today's "Megxit Summit" at Sandringham- I think Harry is still welcome as a member of the Windsor family (welcome for private holidays and celebrations), but he is no longer a member of the British Royal family. I think Charles probably offered to give them a generous lump sum amount that will cover 1 year of expenses including RPO security, skeleton staff, and Archie's nanny. Perhaps Harry balked at that number which is why Charles left 30 minutes early.
Also, I think that HRH titles were stripped so that they are now Their INO Duke & Duchess of Sussex (In Name Only).
MM may have been truly in love with Harry when she did that interview, but I thought it was more trying to force a relationship or force someone to stay in it. It's hard to reconcile an interview like that with someone who wants privacy and cherishes the tender feelings of red-hot humana humana love.
I am sure the palace knew about that interview after it was out. Everyone sniping that MM "wasn't given a fair shake" by the Firm needs to remember that this interview, the alleged picture taking in the palace, and rummaging through Harry's car at polo all happened BEFORE the engagement. In spite of this shadiness, the relationship went forward. How could they not be suspicious?
To stop them immediately, eat a spoonful of prepared mustard.
Trying to tie to to the Sussex.. I hope they have electrolyte balance because many prescription meds will mess that up.
Re: how will Archie do school? I also brought this up, but maybe the have a 5 year plan? I would hate for him to be homeschooled with tutors and isolated but I would think Harry wouldn’t let that happen.
You ain't lyin'! That's the colonoscopy prep stuff that has food that you won't eat until next week violently exiting the nether region. Make sure the seatbelt on the toilet is ready to fasten.
Yes, too bad nobody spiked MM's tea with it. What is wrong with courtiers nowadays?
@Hikari - I agree about their titles, I think it has been stripped from them but not announced as such. I guess we will know if they use them or not in the near future:)
@Elle - "Odds-on at 1/2 to become fiscally independent by 2025
3/1 is offered for their divorce within the next five years
Collapse of their marriage more likely than Serena Williams winning Wimbledon"
Side question..does anyone actually believe Serena's marriage is for real and not just a business arrangement?
I will take your bet and raise you a "how long before Sparkles pleads Exhaustion and get admitted somewhere as this goes down?":)
"editor-at-large Richard Kay revealed Meghan was barred from dialing in on the meeting from Vancouver. Palace officials said such an idea was rejected because no one knew for sure who else might have been listening in."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7883451/Inside-Megxit-summit-Harry-talked-Queen-story.html