The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have announced that they are stepping down as senior Royals.
Supposedly the announcement, which was made on Instagram, went ahead without informing the Queen in advance.
There are already many comments discussing the Sussex announcement on the previous post, but let's continue the discussion here.
Supposedly the announcement, which was made on Instagram, went ahead without informing the Queen in advance.
There are already many comments discussing the Sussex announcement on the previous post, but let's continue the discussion here.
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I don’t see Harry and Meg making much out of commercial activities. The interest isn’t there. One or both of them will write a book and then what? He can probably get paid to make appearances, but honestly, the money isn’t there to fund the lifestyle they want and they just burned bridges with their cash cow.
I won’t be shocked if charles and the Queen cut them off.
https://mobile.twitter.com/sunriseon7/status/1215019243399348224
@Swampwoman - they played this so wrong. If Me Again and her dishcloth of a husband were smart they would have played the game properly, really get the support and adoration of the public and THEN pull this.; In the "Negotations" they could put pressure on the queen saying they are so popular they have to get what they want or they will withdraw and it will be embarrassing. With everything happening, the public are now just happy to see them go away.
Speculating....if the queen took back the title " Duke of Sussex", forbid them from using " Sussex Royal" ? That would slow them down.
Where was Harry today? Visiting his grandfather should be a priority.
What on Earth would they produce on Netflix? Their documentary had dismal ratings. Maybe Meg could do a sex tips video. That could be enlightening or nauseating, but I would watch it.
@Unknown, check the BBC website for the official BP statement.
@Nutty, CHEERS!! You called it, but did we imagine it would be only two weeks into the new year? Their website read like a list of demands when someone is being held hostage. I would've love to hear old PP's reaction to all of this!! He's a real corker!!
I cannot imagine how hurt the family is right now, and I posted this on the last thread, so sorry for repeat, but if her past is even half as shady as had been alluded to (CDAN) then I hope the gloves finally come off. As for PH, what the heck is he thinking!! I could never wrap my head around their relationship, didn't wish it ill will, but they never seemed happy. Hopefully I will be able to get some work done tomorrow, without sitting reading about this all day.....LOL...odds don't look to be in my favor!
Great video! The shade was delicious. But even after being told to stand back three times Markle (and Harry) barged ahead anyway!!
I've heard that the Sussexes gatecrashed that party to begin with.
I can see where they have been operating at cross purposes since the beginning
Even Archie could plug a video that parents could use to make their 6 month old read by the time they are walking.
1. They’ll continue with royal duties “As called upon”:
Gives them a victim excuse and makes RF the bad guys when they completely drop out.
2. Income 95% “...derived from income allocated by the Prince of Wales”:
Puts the onus directly on Prince William for their long-term future. Again, they are setting it up so they can play victims.
I pray the Queen, Prince Charles, and Prince William remove their kid gloves at this provocation. I know the Twitterverse is phony, but I too dislike all the support the nonthinkers in the Twitterverse are throwing the Harkles’ way tonight.
She needs to be exposed for the fraud she really is. Stat.
I also think HMTQ needs to charge them rent wherever they stay in England. I've heard the York princesses pay rent, and I know the "lesser" Royals do, so then should the Sussexes.
These two need to pay for their Canadian residence themselves (or find a mutual sugar daddy who'll pay for them). Anyone know if Elton has a Canadian property?
If their announcement was truly posted without them telling Her Majesty, then I will lack words for how loathsome I find these two. Unacceptable behavior!
That's what Megs thinks she's doing now. She thinks her paid bots actually mean she's a beloved global icon.
Markle and Harry are not interesting, intelligent, charismatic, nor do they have delightful personalities. They will never get a gigantic Netflix deal, maybe a minor deal.
Exactly!
The only interest in them is that they are ROYALTY. Take that away and all you have is a former royal and a materialistic woman who leverages her looks and is nearing her best-by date. Interest will wane and they will become more of a train-wreck curiosity.
MM would have been happiest being a Carrie Bradshaw marrying Mr. Big. She could indulge her every material whim, attend all the glitzy do's and divorce well. Marrying into royalty came with actual job requirements so it was too hard.
I fear they've both gone nuts." Gotta love Piers today. He's on twitter fire.
Duchy $ would be subject to US IRS taxes because she is still a citizen and any income, any income is taxable. That's why she's setting up this money laundering operation foundation. Simple. What could possibly go wrong? LOL.
Harry has betrayed his family. Even if they were not royals, he's full on betrayed his family. Imagine being part of a family owned business and one of the sons and his creepy grabby wife pulled a similar stunt like this? "Oh, we don't want to help or work with the biz anymore or very much, but we are still entitled to our share of the income..."
Does anyone know where all of this income is going to come from? Donations to their Foundation... ok... but who is going to donate enough millions to keep them afloat? It's like they are expecting the money to just happen, fall from the air into their bank account. Investing in air. Harry has really really gone off the rails on the crazy train. He doesn't get that a narcissist is never satisfied with anything and they never have enough money. I hope he manages to get away from her before all of his inheritance is blown.
I would LOVE for Prince Charles to say to them "Allow me to show you financial independence" and then cut their greedy, ungrateful, unappreciative, disrespectful, rude, insulting, selfish rear ends out of the Duchy's financial plan.
Ha! Please, make it so! I would celebrate for a solid month if this whole mess blows up in their faces, and the RF gets custody of Archie.
This feels like a showdown between good and evil. As Nutty said : it's Shakespearean!
So this drama is a nice distraction :)
Can anyone imagine what it would be like to have Megs as a part of production on any sort of media project? OMG. Pure hell. Nothing is ever good enough for her and without her edits, which are as stupid and childish as her banana writing, and when you were to tell her, "NO. That's stupid!" she'd bash a tea pot over your head,
Unknown:
@danwootton
"Their statement has left the Queen “deeply upset” and Charles and William “incandescent with rage”, as it “was not cleared with anyone”. I’m told the recent portrait featuring the trio and Prince George was the final straw."
I'm quoting myself re the family heirs portrait since I just saw Wootton's tweet pasted above. Markle is desperate to publicly use this photo as an impetus for their decision to leave (especially when I believe they were forced out).
The photo was an historic heirs only composition! It did not include the wives nor PP - nor were the other Cambridge children portrayed in the photo.
You are 100% right. I am actually quite angry about this since they are in essence blaming William and Prince George. Sure, blame a 6 year old child who did not ask to be born into any of this. Nutty was right again; they ARE jealous of a child. SMH.
While people do respect the Queen, I don't personally know anyone in my part of the US who cares anything about M&H. Of course, I don't personally know anyone who cares about what the Kardashians do, say, or sell, nor do I know anyone interested in their usually pretty gross "physical reveals" either. So I'm probably not a good measure of American interest in trashy celebs and I don't know about other countries. I do know I'd avoid buying anything endorsed by H&M so I'm not sure what the American PR person is talking about. I wouldn't buy food, jewelry, cars, exercise equipment, or real estate from them. I certainly wouldn't buy clothes or invest based on their advice. What company would pay millions? Sure the PR person making the claim wasn't SS? :)
Agreed that they are not all that popular in the states. No one I know follows them. People are too worried about other things than some people who are overseas and don't impact their daily life.
An American PR person thinks the H&M mess can rule the PR world in deals? Spoken like a PR person who has drunk the drink in hopes they get a slice of the profits. Well, I don't buy that.
First off, getting out of the family is not an easy thing as, well as the Palace has said, nothing has been finalized yet. They would have to hold the interest until free but who knows who might step into the fame lights that no one sees at the moment?
If the titles are pulled, then all the air is out of SussexRoyal and what limited interest in them that remains.
Sure a lot of celebs do commercials for product but they don't do them in their own country. They tend to go overseas (like Japan) unless it is something like dull like life insurance or they have dropped a tad in the lists of importance.
What a sh** show. When you start with nuclear, you'd better hope there are no survivors as you try to claim your winnings.
Edward and Sophie are full-time working royals, yet they pay rent (in the form of a lease agreement) for their property on the Windsor Estate. So does Andrew, and he was a full-time working royal. How Meghan and Harry pulled off living rent-free on a Crown Estate is beyond me. Maybe the Queen or Charles pays the rent for them? The lease agreements for Edward and Andrew are public because they live on Crown property, not the personal property of the Queen. Amner Hall (the country home of the Cambridges) is at Sandringham, which is personal property of the Queen.
Does anyone have a link to a picture of MM without her wedding/engagement rings on today?
Thanks!
Hilarious.🤣
Personally I think they got cut off & tehyre saving face.
Thanks Twinsmama
Nutty, start adding names to the list again or start a new one. Bette Midler
But the Toronto Star is the "woke" Canadian newspaper which sees racism everywhere and, in the past, has referred to Meghan's critics as cruel. As I wrote earlier, she might be popular in Toronto where being a celebrity is a "thing", but comments that I have read at other Canadian newspaper sites basically say that they don't care, as long as Canadians don't have to pay for anything.
Chicago Tribune
@chicagotribune
“Northwestern graduate moving closer to home after spending time abroad“
https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-prince-harry-meghan-markle-royal-family-20200108-hhpjgzxoafg6tmgvnj6lgnxpfi-story.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true
@Bardsey posted somewhere above Re: Daily Mail press release that was apparently live stating there was a “rift that could not be reported”. They were asking for more specific details. I was merely speculating. My assumption was they meant rift between BRF and H&M
Anyone else have any further details?
How can they “fully support HMQ” & “honour our duty to the Queen” when they didn’t even deign to tell her they were doing this...? How can they be “financially independent” whilst still accepting huge ��from the Duchy of Cornwall, set up to support heirs to the British throne?
None of the BRF knew about the Q&A section of their website. The whole point that royals can’t receive money is to prevent corruption (cash for access anyone?), prevent trading on royal titles & devaluing the brand. Inconceivable they can keep their royal status.
People quite rightly point out that Eugenie & Beatrice have royal titles & a job. But they are company employees, not earning money from a royal foundation that carries their HRH names. They are not asking for donations to directly fund them & their work.
They want to keep Frogmore Cottage, keep their titles, keep their security, keep their taxpayer-funded travel for tours & perks yet not keep the other side of the bargain-the “traditional” royal duties. They may want a “progressive new role”. But it’s HMQ who decides, not them.
By issuing their statement & website, w/out telling the Queen, they have tried to force her hand into giving them what they want. I have never before been told that she is “deeply disappointed” with her grandson. Or indeed, anyone. It’s a mark of how upset all the family are.
Seriously. Could William have a face to face and once and for all hash things out, convince him to get help and stay with the family he’s always had? I know Harry has long been complicit, and probably not thinking straight - coughsubstanceabusecough- but I kind of feel sorry for him. (And no I do not share Skippy’s thinking of Harry). Like I said earlier this won’t end well for Harry.
She is insane.
Can someone please tell me where to find the formal announcement from the RF? Is there a link?
Skippy has the statement from BP alongside the Harkle's statement
https://skippyv20.tumblr.com/
As an American, I will loudly protest if we are to foot any of their bills. As far as interset in them goes, I can say no one I know cares about them except some ladies on Lipstick Alley (and they are on the bandwagon in full force but that is a minority of people here).
All the money in the World, won’t make up to Harry for losing his Dad, Grandparents and Brother, and what has he gained, but a scheming disloyal spouse.
She may not have been disloyal to Harry yet, but calling him H?
That is dehumanizing language, to not refer to a person by their name and an initial is not a nickname, Meggy
No, I will try to go there now.
@Bardsley, I too missed the comment that the press (or is it just the Mail due to litigation?) cannot explain a deeper reason for rift. Can you tell more? Maybe we will learn more tomorrow.
Let them tell, Royal Family! Turn over all the rocks so she has nothing she can use.
There can only be one king at a time. If you voluntarily give it up, you're DONE. Harry's not the heir but that only makes it easier for The Firm to jettison him. An irrelevant, inconvenient royal takes himself and his pain-in-the-ass wife out of the picture? What's not to like? The Queen has outlived more embarrassing things than an idiot grandson and his narcissist wife. Charles and William too.
From Lipstick Alley
Link to Lipstick Alley @CatEyes
Two pieces worth reading:
This column by Sarah Vine...woof. Actually quite sad.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7866585/SARAH-VINE-happened-enchanting-couple-fell-love-with.html
And Rachael Bletchly does not mince words:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/the-queens-petulant-grandson-turned-21243270
Thanks for the link, it made it easy for me. :o)
Sorry to harp on the tarot (last time!) but my favourite tarot reader (reading before this news broke, but she did see Meghan wanting to leave the royal family, long ago, but just not all the demands she would make!) saw Harry as embarrassed. She really has eviscerated him! And if anyone wants more ... there is going to be some scandal involving Harry coming up, but from a while ago; yes, Harry is drinking too much, and has been for a while, and is probably using psychedelic drugs for recreation; there is another woman that Harry is drawn to but she does not want to be dragged into the mess and so is saying no thanks (not necessarily romantic but Harry wants a close friendship); there is going to be a falling out between Megsy and Markus Anderson (and they have been working on a secret business deal together) ... enough now and back to the topic!
How much of what Megsy has demanded will she get? Have you managed to read all she posted on their new website (there are funding and media sections)? Gosh, she can't even get the stuff professionally written - American spelling, glaring spelling errors (like the comma splice), word salad (that we all recognise now) and this obsequious deference to The Queen! It's messy and amateur Megsy (there is a huge contextual difference between writing on a blog or comments section of a blog, Tumblr account, etc. and writing on an official royal website, IG account etc.).
I would toast to that @CatEyes!
Pass the popcorn. This is going to be interesting.
https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2020/01/08/the-sweaty-sussex-showdown-begins/
This got me thinking back to the last TOC, when the conspiracy came out about MM engagement ring looking different. Maybe the RF had requested the Di jewels be returned way back then as there was heavy sh*t already going down. And on the balcony when Harry told her to turn around and it appeared Anne and Andrew were blocking MM from getting close to HM. Maybe there was a showdown before they all walked out on the balcony. Is that why MM looked upset?
Of course more tidbits will start coming out. If I was reporter covering the royals and had the dirt, after that offensive media page on the Sussex site, I’d start leaking like a sieve.
"Meghan has taken total control over harry’s Life’s"
How can that be when you say Harry is so besotted with her and they are deeply in love? Could you now be seeing a side to Meghan you didn't see before?
Last thought about Harry and Meghan relocating part time to Canada; in the recovery community people are warned about "geographical cures". The point being that wherever you go there you are. If you are the problem, then the problem will follow.
Animal Lover: You are spot on. The problem with Harry and Meghan is that their individual emotional issues (Harry) and narcissistic personality disorder (Meghan) prevent them from seeking help.
Meghan quickly took control of Harry and started isolating him from family and friends while they were still dating. She continued the isolation by the move to Fraudmore instead of an apartment at KP, and by splitting Harry and William up using the narc technique of triangulation.
You sound like a knowledgeable person, so you probably already know that narcissists rarely seek mental health assistance because they think they’re ok and everyone else is wrong.
As you may have noticed with Meghan, like most narcissists, she always portrays herself as a helpless victim and Harry joins in to play victim with her and to literally be the prince who rescues her from the meanies in the press and the public she blames.
She knows one of Harry’s hot buttons is the helplessness he experienced as a boy when Diana died. He couldn’t save Diana, but Meghan is happy to jump in and let Harry “rescue” her and be her protector.
Yes you are calling it correctly. Their train wreck will move to Canada, but their problems will follow. Their lives and relationship is built on a weak shaky foundation of deceit and lies they tell themselves and each other.
And once they set up shop in Canada or anywhere else, things will crumble again as real life follows them and rears its ugly head once more. No matter where they go, they can’t run away from the problems they create for themselves.
I hope Lord Geidt will be the lead man on the team and it will amount to an exorcism and Meghan head spins around in circles choking on her trifling two-bit cheap necklace with her zodiac sign on it. Then the Queen inks out her name in the Baptismal record of the COE and satan shows up and takes his minion, Meghan to hades.
They're mistaken if they think they can bypass the British press while still keeping a public profile. They just put a giant bulls eye on themselves.
Whooooweee, guess I got that out of my system! lol
I’m going to read it.
Here's an excerpt from the DM https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7866007/Harry-Meghan-step-senior-royals-financially-independent.html
One exasperated aide said: 'People had bent over backwards for them. They were given the wedding they wanted, the house they wanted, the office they wanted, the money they wanted, the staff they wanted, the tours they wanted and had the backing of their family. What more did they want?'
Another royal source said: 'It's deeply unfair to the Queen who doesn't deserve to be treated this way. It is a shoddy way to treat her. The family understands that they want to do something different and is perfectly willing to help them. People are just devastated.'
My thoughts:
1. I've been saying for months now that the BRF was playing the long game, being nice, giving Rach & H enough rope so that later, when the Dumbartons did something this spectacularly heinous, stupid, and obviously for money/money/money, the BRF could say, "but we tried, we tried, we really, really tried! What more could we have done?" I swear, I know my BFF Kate is reading here.
2. The floodgates will open. Rach only thinks it's been unfair. There is no reason to hold back.
3. The devastated family will cut Rach & PH off at the knees, but they'll do it ever-so-politely.
4. The Dumbartons' global fame and market--really? Because without ties to the BRF, Rach & PH are not as appealing, and add to that, any celebrity who comes out to support the Dumbartons is losing contact to Will & Kate & the entire BRF. Whoopsy-daisy.
5. One other thought, more woo-woo than usual, but I remember commenting on the new moon eclipse (12/25) when Philip was taken to the hospital. Now, as we approach the full moon culmination of that eclipse, it is interesting that it does involve royalty, just not the obvious choice at Christmas.
Finally, a special note to my BFFs, William & Kate: you are the future of the BRF, and William, I will watch for your magnificent scarfing of the woman who is already on her way to being one of the most despised and ridiculed women on the planet (who knew it was possible to make Kim K look Klassy?). I'm just sorry that Rach had to tear up your family and take your brother to hell with her (I can't help but think of Pluto (Rach) and Persephone (PH) in this modern scenario of a trip to hell.) Also, I'm free to babysit next time Nanny Maria needs a weekend away. Carole can mix the cocktails.
http://www.freefromtoxic.com/2015/05/13/the-4-most-common-narc-sadistic-triangulation-tactics/
The answer is "no, they are not that popular or in demand here" (in North America).
However, the Harkles represent what opinion makers WANT to be popular. And because that is the case, they will be given money and propped up so as to endorse the ideals and beliefs of those who have the money to pay proxies to influence the public to adopt their favored positions.
The Harkles know this and are more than ready to play the role these opinion makers want them to play. This game has been repeated for as long as mass media has existed to influence the minds of the public.
It doesn't matter where you sit on the political spectrum, you can think of someone on the other side of the spectrum who has fulfilled this actor's role. Maybe it is Charlton Heston being a (well compensated) spokesperson for the National Rifle Association. Maybe it's Al Gore being the face of climate change. Whatever the cause may be, if someone wants to push that cause or causes you need spokespeople to fulfill that role. And that's what the Woke Harkles are about to cash in on now.
Modernizing the royal family? Check
Eco warriors supreme? Check
Scolding the dated and unenlightened masses of the UK who dont want progress? Check
Being an empowered and independent young couple? Check
And so on.
It's incredibly sad to see this, particularly for Harry. Meghan was born for this. This is who she is. Harry could be better than this, but he's chosen to sink to Meghan's level and go the lowbrow route.
The Harkles are scammers for hire. They will be paid, they will be trotted out as our betters, they will be some level of celebrities.
Unfortunately for them, what comes around goes around. And as the Harkles have no particular knowledge or other gifts to share, their time on the stage is likely to be limited. When the time comes, and my guess is it won't take too long, they will be replaced with better actors than themselves as the champions of the causes they embrace for cash and fame.
The Queen's fury as Harry and Meghan quit: Royal couple did NOT tell Her Majesty, Prince Charles or William who all learned of their decision to step back from the TELEVISION as aides complain about being 'stabbed in the back'
Royal Family 'deeply disappointed' as senior source says the household is 'shocked' and 'downright furious'
Exasperate aide claims that people 'bent over backwards' to give Harry and Meghan whatever they wanted
Devastated' Windsors are still keen to support the couple, despite being kept in the dark on their departure
Duke and Duchess announced they will 'carve out a progressive new role' in a message on social media
The personal statement surfaced without any discussion between the Sussexes and the rest of the family
Royal insider slammed the announcement as a 'shoddy' and unfair way to treat Her Majesty last night
It seemed the public didn't like that the Queen seemed to support Andrew. But maybe she and Charles are that soft and will be embarrassed if the split gets less than civil. Maybe the Queen will give them everything they want. then what?
So, what I don’t get is how absolutely imbecilic these two are.
Diana gave a damaging interview to M.Bashir, the Queen said “Divorce”
During the negotiations , Diana jumped the gun and said what the terms of the divorce would be and said she would be keeping her HRH.
Really upset HMTQ and PC and subsequently Diana was stripped of her HRH, had she not done that she would have probably as the Mother of a future Monarch, kept her HRH unlike Sarah.
What I am getting at is, you don’t play press games with HMTQ and PC, the statement that she is deeply disappointed is HUGE, and previous History will tell you, that HMTQ doesn’t play.
For dessert, I’m now looking to see what sort of analysis H.G. Tudor will post in the next installment of A Very Royal Narcissist, which, due to today’s developments, will hopefully appear in the next few days as this fiasco continues to develop. His analysis and insights are so good that sometimes I think he’s really a psychiatrist or psychologist who just writes under this pen name.
This is my understanding of how the tarot works:
If you study quantum physics, you will find that time as we know it is not a universal law (and it is not linear). In the present, we are always rewriting/revising the past and changing the future, so past, present and future are intertwined and always changing. However, there are some energies that are very strong and will lead to a predictable future (predictable, not certain).
If we can 'levitate' ourselves out of the present of 3-d, linear time as we experience it, then we can see the past, present and future more clearly because they are not separate but co-exist. The tarot is a tool that can be used to do this .. the varied meanings of each card and how the cards affect each other help to add complexity to any reading. The more open and objective the reader is, and the more able to do this levitation, the more accurate the reading will be.
A good reader will also tell you that we have free will, but sometimes the path we are on and the energies around us are very strong and our characters are set and so the future almost becomes inevitable.
for those who did not see the ringless claw:
ttps://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/meghan-markle-pictured-in-london-hours-before-bombshell-royal-news/news-story/ac39b23a500c2092a74306b98e971d0f
Clearly a signal because she uses the claw with intention.
Also, IMO the Jen Meyer merching announcement was a chess move from the BRF. Rach should know that they will come for her, and they'll force HW to choose between the BRF and the yacht girl & Harry, the ingrate formerly known as Prince
Elle, I can just hear the quiet clinking of glasses at Catherine's party.
And how I would love to be there! Then, tomorrow, a scarf fitting with my besties before pre-lunch champagne with HMTQ.
At this point, I don't believe in an immutable future (because so many things could change it) but I can understand perhaps echoes of what may happen (potential outcomes) traveling to those that can receive it. Since all time occurs simultaneously, I have no clue how this even happens.
Which brings us back to PH and MM. Was it so obvious what MM was up to, or were we receiving the echoes of what may happen?
Meg/Har have been meeting with high power attorneys, going over every thing they can on how M&H can continue to get money from the Crown (ie. Charles) to support themselves while breaking off to do "their thing". They think either PC or The Crown are obligated to provide them with funds. Especially if they represent The Crown in Canada or elsewhere.
What they expect and what will happen are going to be explosively interesting. Looks like M&H are willing to go at it publicly while The Crown will want to keep it all behind the scenes. That is part of M&H weapon.
This is going to be ugly
I expect there is a suitcase in Rach's future.
I also think she'll be a natural at In-N-Out Burger.
Thanks for the link to the ringless claw.
You have made me laugh aloud again with your wit!
The Harkles keep saying how hard a year they had in 2019.
I am sure 2020 will prove a much tougher year for them!
H.G. Tudor out with a very royal narcissist part 6
https://narcsite.com/2020/01/08/a-very-royal-narcissist-part-6/
On the blog Rach used to have about being an out-of-work actress, she talked of dining a baguette and bottle of wine, so it's not hard to imagine her at In-N-Out.
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-2283#post-53644110
I'm thinking one of the on shopping network shows.
Lots of media options, publicity and probably a discount on anything they sell.
Yes, absolutely, they had a legal team write that website. Did you see the part about whether or not they will have RPO's? They claim that they are "international persons of interest" something like that and cite a statute or law about how that means the UK must provide them with protection.
It's absolutely galling.
Did I hear tarot cards? I was learning tarot reading and started watching a couple of tarot card readers on Youtube to practice my skills. I found the Meghan/Harry readings interesting which made learning the card interpretations easier. I've gotten hooked on those two readers and so far they have been pretty accurate. Both have been saying for weeks now that the Sussex divorce is in progress. The stories that come out of the readings are certainly entertaining.
Very much agree. Meghan is in no way "empowered," in my view, but that is how she is spinning things now and that is how the people who will pay her money to be their shill will spin thing about her.
Meghan is a con artist, in my opinion. Very basic playbook of moves, very poor delivery and vapid personality.
She will happily play the pawn for cash, and there will be people willing to write her checks. At least at first. But she and Harry don't wear well, and my guess is that money won't be flowing for as long as she wishes.
As someone who lives in the USA, I can tell you that no one in my circle cares about the Harkles at all. That's why I come here, to talk about them with people who actually do care about them. There is no demand for the Harkles, even though they do grace some gossip rags' covers and the USA media is desperate to promote them.
Dan Wooton an hour ago on twitter:
A source has told me the couple will now also work on commercial products, explaining: “Make no mistake, Harry and Meghan intend to make a lot of money and start taking commercial deals as soon as possible.”
Note To Myself: Never spend a dime with companies that line up to pay Harry and Meghan as they merch being royals while not being royals.
@happy Days
H.G. Tudor out with a very royal narcissist part 6
https://narcsite.com/2020/01/08/a-very-royal-narcissist-part-6/
@KC Martin: Thanks for the info. I knew he’d jump on it sooner than later.
Exactly right.
I should have said in my post above when I was listing the "qualities" of the Harkles for potential sponsors that I was being sarcastic (they aren't modernizing the royal family; they aren't eco warriors; they aren't empowered; etc). They aren't any of those things, they simply pose as being those things or checking those boxes.
The Harkles offer virtually nothing, in my opinion. They only have 1) royal titles and 2) Meghan's heritage. That's it. I don't see anything else. They pretend to be other things (eco warriors, and so forth), but they aren't actually those things.
The USA media, in the past decade or so, has become extremely attuned to matters of ethnicity and group identity. Meghan understands this and, in my view, she is very much ready to capitalize on this historical moment. She is not alone in that realization and maneuvering, I don't think, but she has a royal title and others do not.
Well, @DesignDoctor, don't tell on me, but In-N-Out Burger was double entendre of the trashy kind. I couldn't help myself lol. And I agree, 2019 will be a walk in Windsor Park, relatively speaking and pun intended lol.
2020 will be the British Year of the Dragging.
Rach better tighten up those weaves. William's incandescent rage will morph into a beautiful and controlled daemon, and he has MI6 on speed dial (I knew that was a hint dropped). Rach's "friends" are going to have to choose between the BRF, Will and Kate and the Cambridge children OR The Duke and The Duchess of Nothing More than some In-N-Out Burger. Hard pass on the fries. In investment lingo, Rach & H are the equivalent of a penny stock pump-and-dump. Will & Kate are blue chip. Not a tough choice.
Also, if she keeps it up with the website, I'd recommend she get a copy of the Gregg Reference Manual or the AP Style book.
(Rach, really, I know you read here, so check it out, and quit capitalizing The Duke and The Duchess ffs: "Capitalize king, queen, prince and princess when they are used directly before one or more names; lowercase when they stand alone," AP Stylebook says. "Queen Elizabeth II. The queen or Elizabeth on second reference. Capitalize a longer form of the sovereign's title when its use is appropriate or in a quote: Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth."
But it's never 'Duchess Katherine': "The wife of a duke is a duchess: the Duchess of Kent, the duchess, but never Duchess Katherine or Lady Katherine." SO, really, really never "The Duke" and "The Duchess", especially in your case, because you can kiss your duchass goodbye.
@Vince, totally agree. I just don't know how much spin she's got left, and I mean that in several ways. Meghan is a con artist, but she's an almost 40 yo, kind of frayed and ridden hard con artist, and it's hard to believe that's going to be a big sell in the SM/influencer/youth market. She's nothing and no one apart from the yacht girl who bounced her way to duchess and back again.
I totally agree re this, too: She will happily play the pawn for cash, and there will be people willing to write her checks. At least at first. But she and Harry don't wear well, and my guess is that money won't be flowing for as long as she wishes.
I live in the US, too, and almost no one cares about her (so yes, that's why I come here, too), and the few I know who do know anything about her basically think she's a shady, grifting ho-bag of the Dollar Store variety. Dolly Parton said that "it takes a lot of money to look this cheap" and apparently, Rach saw that as a hold-my-beer kind of challenge.
And the saddest part of that is, the alien kidnappings and Bigfoot sightings are far more credible than anything printed about those two frauds.
"I live in the US, too, and almost no one cares about her (so yes, that's why I come here, too), and the few I know who do know anything about her basically think she's a shady, grifting ho-bag of the Dollar Store variety. Dolly Parton said that "it takes a lot of money to look this cheap" and apparently, Rach saw that as a hold-my-beer kind of challenge."
Amazing stuff. This made me seriously laugh out loud. Thanks! :)
I completely agree with all that you said. My own guess is that the Harkles will snag a couple of suckers on the front end of this new con (Harkles go independent), but the money will dry up rapidly as the investors realize they aren't getting a good return on their investment.
There are people who are paid to be relevant and/or who are used by the media (put on frequently) for their own ends, people who should not have been paid or who did not earn air time, but at some point you can't keep pulling out water from a dry well. As you said, I think the Harkles are much closer to being a dry well than they realize.
As said as all this is for the royal family to have to go through, I'm really happy for them. They are finally, finally, finally going to be rid of these anchors. As the writer at Harry Markle said, it's been untenable for some time and soon the royal family won't have to pretend any longer or even deal with the two goofs much of the time. That has to be a relief, even if we are not at the "negotiations finalized" stage yet and there is probably a lot of headaches to come before the royal family can move on.
Really, those two titles need to be removed from them.
I believe that since Harry was born as a prince, this cannot be removed though he could abdicate. But Meghan can be left titleless, same as before she hooked Harry.
@Vince, If Rach were in any way likable, I would feel some sympathy for her situation. She clawed her way up a lot of greasy poles just to escape her "here, hold my suitcase while I plop in some magic mammaries" past only to trash it all in no time to return to her "here, hold my Givenchy suitcase while I have my people plop in some magic mammaries for me". This trail of destruction, millions wasted, an innocent baby, all because of this vapid tramplette, but on the upside, at least she learned to lawn bowl.
1. I really feel for HMQ who tried her best to welcome MM in the BRF.
I also feel for PC who walked down the aisle with her.
2. Their will to step back : IMO, they could have chosen to quit the BRF and being financially independent (nothing at the expense of the BRF or of the British taxpayers). However, reading their statement, it seems they want have it all (as usual). They are definitively hypocrites.
I do respect their choice to STEP DOWN (not to step back) but I have to admit that I am shocked by their poor manners. How dare they : being so rude and disrespectful? The will to step down can be justified but discourtesy can't be that's why I predict for today and in the next few days an agressive PR campaign (pity party II, friends who will support them...) because they need damage control to launch their Foundation (it's clear they can't be seen as non reliable philanthropists by potential cash contributor).
3. Their plan
MM thinks she is one step ahead and she holds all the cards. She must be thinking she set the rules of the game/of their exit releasing an early statement.
I urge the BRF to do something. I don't mean being rude/brutal but HMQ has to show she is still in charge.
4. Harry : IMO he holds it against his family (Diana's status after her divorce, Diana's death, William being favoured...) and has always wanted a kind of revenge and to break the mould.
MM is a narcissist, she is accused of being the evil (and she is). She may be the brain and the weapon of mass destruction he chose to hurt and to get way from the BRF but Harry is far from being a nice boy.
5. Last thought : many posters have discussed the wedding ring.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10702119/meghan-markle-theatre-ring-prince-harry/
I am really wondering why she didn't wear her wedding ring yesterday.
Maybe they had words before her secret visit yesterday, she threw away her ring telling him that he had 2 hours to decide if he was with her or against her. When she came back, he decided to stay with her and she released the statement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFKleWOhehs (for those who've not yet seen Rach's feminist manifesto)
*For some reason, that video makes me think of the line from 13 Hours, when Rone says to Jack, "Payback's a bitch, and her stripper name is Karma".
https://sussexroyal.com/media/
Apparently the "new rules" for the media isn't going down all that well..;)
When HRC lost the US election (and her power) the funds to the Clinton Foundation dried up.
"Payback's a bitch, and her stripper name is Karma".
Meghan, especially, and Harry can at any time change how they behave and what they want and what they say, so the future is not set. But, Meghan is a toxic full-on narcissist and is unlikely to change (some would say unable to), and Harry has his own issues that he probably is not going to address effectively until Meghan leaves him. The tarot is just a tool (but, with a good deck and a good reader, a very effective tool) of tapping into a person's energy and seeing the path before them (or you could look at the past or present).
It is amazing that we can access such detailed information, but everyone has the ability to do so (and those who try use many different tools). It's the interpretation of those universal symbols that can go wrong.
On another topic, I wonder about timing ... the threat of war (albeit low-scale) with Iran, Brexit, an election in the USA ...aren't Megsy and Harry going to get lost in the noise? And they both quickly become annoying - her with her meaningless, smug and arrogant word salad and him with his silly antics interchanged with a morose look! How many people like that? They need many millions to get the wealth she wants - note the charity and environmental platforms are not seem to be featuring much. Of course they aren't ... just a vehicle to access fame and wealth and privilege!
If it was up to me, I would have their titles stripped and let H&M fend for themselves. I usually root for underdogs but I want the BRF to go in for the kill. Wills, if you’re reading, I’m at the ready to coordinate to keep Meg out of NY and hopefully the U.S.
You know what I always hear about TQ? That nothing she does or says, that no gesture or facial expression is ever, ever an accident.
Did you all see that tidbit earlier tonight about TQ being upset as far back as the wedding?
What if TQ knew exactly what she was doing with that car? What if she and the senior courtiers 100% had Meghan's number before the wedding even happened? What if this entire shitshow has been the BRF consciously giving the grifters enough rope, and playing the "blindsided" and "hurt" card every step of the way?
I'm not saying some ebil courtier snuck into Meghan's bedroom whilst she slept to whisper brainwashing sentences about Megxit into her ears. I'm just saying what if people saw her for exactly what she was (which wouldn't be surprising - many saw it, and she's not a person who hides it well AT ALL) and worked behind the scenes to poke and poke and poke at the Sussexes' sensitive spots?
For all the 'BRF is a mess, no one is in charge' contingent (which I don't think is entirely wrong), is there anyone who thinks they aren't capable of the iciest, polite-to-your-face Machiavellian machinations? These people have arguably been genetically selected for their scheming abilities, ffs! They're not better than us or higher than us or any of that crap. They're literally just better at scheming and plotting.
I think Mega brought a knife to a gunfight. Hell, I don't think she realized she was even in a gunfight. And now she's lying bloodied on the ground, dazed, not sure what hit her but convinced she's won anyway.
I'll buy a ticket back to the UK, travel to Buckingham Palace and prostrate myself in front of Liz if this was the plan all along.
I understand this might be a little tinfoil hatty and I'm not saying this is definitely what happened or anything but think about it. Of all the people, all the families on earth who could pull something like this (getting rid of a mercenary married-in) off, don't you think it would be the BRF? Lipstick Alley
Kruger Cowne is a world-wide public relations firm which has both Desmond Tutu and Jane Goodall as clients. Tutu and Goodall were visited by H&M in SA. It also lists former cricketer friend of Harry's, Kevin Pietersen, as a client. Harry and Pietersen both dated Natalie Pinkham at different times, and Natalie was close to Harry right before he met Meghan. She remains a friend today.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/4413877/Prince-Harry-finds-its-good-to-talk-with-former-flame-Natalie-Pinkham.html.
Pinkerton tweeted his overwhelming support for H&M today, saying:
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The daily bashing of Prince Harry & Megan is now becoming tiresome!
They’re a young family & should actually just be left alone!
Let them live THEIR life. No one here on twitter knows what’s it’s like to be THEM!
NO ONE!!!!!!
SO LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!!"
11:17 PM - 6 Sep 2019
This is on Pinkham's Twitter today:
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Absolutely wonderful news to start 2020 with.... so much love for these two (well, three actually) 🥰
Here is Kruger Cowne's website. Many of the names are unfamiliar to me, as I'm from the U.S., so, if anybody can run through these names and look for other connections, I think we'd find some interesting ones. Quite a few of them are CBEs, athletes, and/or royally connected in some way.
https://www.krugercowne.com/talent-category/speaking-appearances/
"Racism has nothing to do with it. Meghan was welcomed on arrival and has destroyed that support single-handedly. Remember that when the leader of that group of female MPs who wrote a public letter of support (on HoC stationery) was challenged, several times, to come up with actual evidence of racism, she couldn't.
"The media has treated Meghan with kid gloves. This has in turn inflamed readerships, given their perfectly justifiable anger at her extravagance, dishevelment at many official functions, unprofessional behaviour, failing to follow security instructions, wilfully ignoring protocol, hanging onto her husband at every opportunity and treating people with disdain at what should be key moments of royal history (and, moreover, matters of record).
"I continue to be baffled by the blindness of her supporters to her obvious failings as a member of the royal family. I can only suppose they are equally ignorant of those requirements. I also note that the majority of her celebrity and non-celebrity fans seem to be based outside the UK. None of their taxes go to support this couple unless they are 'blessed' by a royal visit."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7866371/Experts-reveal-Harry-Meghan-earn-fortune-TV-shows-books-brand-deals.html
A madly optimistic appraisal
MORE at DM:
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry want to set up an eco charity focusing on 'the wellbeing of society and female empowerment' after resigning as senior royals
Royal couple said they would focus on 'shared strength and spirit of community'
Sussexroyal.com website speaks about 'urgent' need to protect environment
Website also notes Meghan is ‘deeply committed to advancing gender equity'
****** Republic, which campaigns for an elected head of state, said Harry and Meghan's statement showed the monarchy was not sustainable in the modern era.
Graham Smith, speaking for the group, called the personal message crass and self-serving after the royal couple said they would work towards being financially independent.
Mr Smith said: "This really is wanting to have your cake and eat it. They have said they will dip in and out of royal duties as it suits them but won't stop taking public money until they find other sources of income.
"To suggest that they're not already financially independent is incredibly crass and belies a sense of self-entitlement and a lack of self-awareness that is common among royals.
"What should be more concerning is that the royal family's star couple have effectively bowed out of their leading role, and that raises questions about the monarchy's future."
He added: "In the meantime taxpayers will rightly ask who will be funding their overseas lifestyle, their extra security and trips back and forth." ****
I hadn't quite appreciated the angle of them working towards financial independence when they supposedly have £34M already. Just shows how much I've unconsciously accepted the BRF's style of life. Exactly the result they aimed for and have always aimed for.
"Have they copyrighted 'Sussex Ex-Royal'?"
I mean, they pretty much said straight out that they are leaving the royals so as to earn a 'professional income' (though since neither have any professional quals that's hard to do but never mind). It was all there in black and white. They want to keep all the perks of their royal status - incl taxpayer funded security - but none of the constraints. It couldn't be clearer.
I do believe that this statement was indeed rushed out to preempt exposure in The Sun. And that's the funny thing - I'm no fan of the tabloids but so much of what they've said about the Harkles over the past few years has turned out to be true. Which of course is why Meghan wants to censor press coverage like some tin pot dictator. Also, I'm a bit surprised that the silly statement did not make more of the 'evil racist British press driving us out' line, because that has been her strategy all along. Which adds to the argument that it was rushed out to get ahead of some 'evil British press'.
Harry as an official engagement Jan 16 with Rugby Football League.
Their website already contains lies. States they haven't earned income as royals. But they have in merching. In speech giving on OZ tour. In ladies luncheon while visiting SA
They will play the race and Diana cards to receive RPO without having to pay a penny themselves.
Swamp, I wish I agreed, but go take a look at the article in The New York Times and the accompanying comments. Sickening! Most of them are supportive, along the lines of "You go, girl!' and many mention the "harassment" and "racism." Ugh.
I saw Graham Smith being interviewed this morning on Sky news. I absolutely agreed with him.
I’ve seen and heard little support for the nasty duo and their new game plan. No-one can see how it will or can work.
I honestly can’t see the Sussex’s wants being honoured, nothing they want had been authorised or agreed with by the Palace. I think the royal family as a whole will be effectively signing their own demise if they let the Sussex’s have their cake and eat it. How can they term themselves ‘Sussex Royal’ if they no longer want to be senior working royals?! Massive contradiction, they must be so tone deaf.
We have printed newspapers delivered, lots to read and digest this morning over breakfast!
That gross, delusional, sense of entitlement, that paranoid yelling about racism- I put on my strictly amateur, unqualified, shrink hat, and arrived at this tentative equation:
Delusion + paranoia = psychosis (? schizophrenia)
Just a thought -
Perhaps also Folie a Deux (sorry, can't do accents here)
I looked up schizophrenia in my ancient medical dictionary (BMA 1999) rather than wade through Internet and read this:
`...apparent that individual is suffering from delusions (false ideas that do not respond to reasoned argument)...' such as being equally or more important than the Cambridges?
`...in paranoid schizophrenia the illness is dominated by delusions of grandeur, persecution and jealousy...'
`...Disordered thinking is reflected in muddled and disjointed speech. Disturbance of association results in the schizophrenic jumping from one subject to another , seemingly unrelated, one. ...In some cases, speech disintegrates, becoming a "word salad" of odd phrases, neologisms (made-up words) and detached syllables...'
`Behaviour becomes more eccentric and self-neglect is common.'
`Word Salad' - My goodness, how often that phrase has been used here!
I could continue but this plenty to think about. I'll leave it to you to go further. Is there any Nutty in a position to risk a more qualified comment?
I could weep for the Royals. How can I show my support?
It's difficult enough to deal with this in an ordinary family but absolutely ghastly for the Royal family. Alas so predictable that the bitch and her cronies would get them over a barrel.
Could the RF resort to the provisions of the Mental Health Act without bringing a further storm down on their heads from their detractors? Presumably the Cambridges have the smarts to use their contacts in the mental health world, after all, Charles was reported as seeking a psychiatrist to help Diana.
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Just clicked through the "made by" link at the bottom and it was created by a Toronto-based digital agency... The same one that made The Tig's website!
Ah. Meg's certainly a loyal customer.
Possibly it's family closeness to the Throne combined with age/experience.
There are also `Minor Royals', but nobody refers to `Major' ones.
She has done everything she can to push Kate out of the limelight, even to announcing this on Kate's birthday! But she can only go so far with this because William and Kate will be Prince and Princess of Wales, and they will hold the Cornwall purse strings. And then they will be King and Queen. I'm betting Markle was looking down those long years of being second fiddle to Kate and having to suck up to William for money, and decided to break apart taking Harry with her. And of course in all this it no longer matters how Archie came into the world.
As for Harry, he is far from bright. This is the person whose schoolteachers had to fake his course work at Eton so he could get into Sandhurst. Markle runs this show, Harry just runs behind.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7868371/PIERS-MORGAN-Queen-FIRE-Royal-Hustlers.html
Strip them of titles and they cannot monetize the Monarchy, their share of it. H&M know this and already have lawyers ready to make threats. In fact this exit will be negotiated by lawyers......too many millions at stake and the image of the Monarchy. Charles has been waiting years to king and he's going let these bird brains ruin it, make the Monarchy into a joke? Plus once these two start monetizing, the public will want a good look into all royal accounts. Such as The Queen is said to be worth a few billion. Mostly in real estate.
Also archieharrison.com and archieharrison.co.uk were domain names registered in February 2018. Makes you wonder if the child actually exists, or is just a marketing concept like Betty Crocker?
Fanatastic comments, thanks for posting!
You're right, people like us who are posting on here find it hard to believe that they will be successful/have an audience.
But much like the woke Hollywood films that most people don't like, there are still hordes of people who DO like that stuff and that is the market they are going for. People like us aren't the target market.
I think they will do well in their chosen target market because let's face it, the Kardashians are popular and they're all a bunch of dunces with plastic surgery.
Whether this will last is another matter, and also it is not clear whether they will be able to use their royal titles if they will be used for commercial purposes.
This last point is key in their whole plan and I think they may have made a mistake. They are assuming that they will keep their royal titles. If that is not the case then they are just Meghan and Harry, and how much is that brand really worth? It's a huge gamble on their part.
@wild boar battle maid, To me, their word salad is honestly similar to what I've heard with corporate jargon or language of consultancies or at conferences and panels. It's quite often to make the speaker sound more clever and technical. Sometimes it's also used in a way to sound quotable or inspiring, particularly when it takes place at a conference or panel. An American colleague once described it best as, "they're using ten dollar words to express ten cent ideas."
Interestingly, if the Palace were not informed of this, then the striking language which states they will continue in they royal duties is actually quite aggressive. Wow. This really is a big one isn't it. If the Palace caves in then it'll be a disgrace.
Either way it will take time for things to progress. We live in a 24 hour news cycle and demands updates/fresh news and actions when the reality is that things move far slower.
"This departure or semi-departure will be negotiated. The Queen should merch back at the Sussex Duo by threatening to revoke their Duke and Duchess titles, but offering to let them lease them at 6 million dollars per year. For their foundation and merching activities, 6 million sounds fair. I can easily see a line of Royal Sussex baby apparel in the future.
Really, those two titles need to be removed from them."
Now that's a very clever idea! I would suggest that it should be based on a % of income earned but that opens up the ability to cook the books.
‘Calls grow for Prince Harry and Meghan Markle to give up their Duke and Duchess of Sussex titles and other official names after turning back on monarchy’.
However, the final few paragraphs are even more interesting...
‘Until now Harry and Meghan have been 'prohibited from earning any income in any form' – as they pointed out last night in a lengthy statement on their official website.
Nicole Murdoch, a trademark lawyer based in Brisbane, Australia, said the signs that the Sussexes were leaving the Royal Family were emerging last summer.
She said: 'This could be because they may lose their titles as part of leaving the Royal Family.
'So this is a defensive move to allow them to continue using the titles or a name that alludes to the titles.
'Their royal titles are gifted by the Queen – will they lose their royal titles when they step back from Royal duties.
'When the trademark move was publicised in December there was a lot of uncertainty over why they were doing it. But now it's become very clear.
'This was a strategic move and it happened in the middle of last year so it's not some decision the pair made during their Christmas holidays.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7868503/Calls-grow-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-royal-titles.html
I personally think the Queen and the Royal Family need to be very careful now with their next moves regarding negotiations with the Sussex’s departure. Piers Morgan has summed it up well in another DM article ....
‘They are the constitutional future of the Monarchy, not Meghan and Harry.
But what genuinely worries me now is that the very future of the Monarchy may be in serious jeopardy if these two renegades have their way and become effectively a pair of rival royals bestriding the globe acting like they're the big dogs, doing what the hell they like and using their royal fame to line their own pockets to the tune of millions like a pair of greedy, grasping hustlers, destroying the royal brand one grubby deal at a time.
It can't be allowed to happen.
Nobody tells the Queen what to do.
She's the most powerful, respected person in Britain.
And right now, she's facing a direct threat to everything she has worked so hard to maintain.
Harry and Meghan's astonishingly brazen and selfish antics have left her no choice but to cut them loose and fire them both from the Royal Family.
Get rid of these whining, ego-crazed, deluded leeches Ma'am - before it's too late.
Thinking about it, it makes sense for the Queen to strip them of their titles.
There will clearly be a lot of merching going on.
The Royal Family is a very strong global brand. It only endorses top of the line products.
Considering that MM is in to all her new age stuff then what happens if the RF is indirectly endorsing some sort of healing crystal tat, or some hippy books about self improvement? That would massively tarnish and cheapen the brand.
Also, and I don't think anyone else has mentioned this, the Royal Family has to remain apolitical.
MM and PH have already shown that they have strong views and will operate outside this if given the chance to act in the manner in which they want to.
What would happen if they put out a statement that goes against the elected government of the day, either in the US, the UK or elsewhere? Using the Iran issue at the moment, does anyone believe that a self important narcissist like MM would be able to keep her trap shut? This is just one example-imagine the diplomatic disasters that could occur on numerous other sensitive political subjects.
It will not be allowed. They haven't thought this through and it's clear MM is driving this as she still doesn't understand the unspoken (but no less fairly strict) limits on what she is allowed to do IF she is to retain her title.
"have got a picture of a still living with parents, slobby late teen, working a part time minimum wage job, who goes down late to breakfast one day and says:
'Me and the girlfriend have decided to get a place of our own and stand on our own two feet. I'm fed up having to do chores and living by your stuffy rules, we want to be free to make our own way in the world'.
'I've already found and agreed a 6 bedroom house with a pool to rent, so we've got a nice lot of space for ourselves and we can really get relax. We'll get it fully decorated and nicely furnished and we'll just live there, away from you because we're fully grown up now'.
'Dad, you and mum will only have to put up the security deposit and six months rent for it. We can tell you what furniture to get and what paint to buy. But we need to be independent and free to do what we want because we feel so mature now.'
'We'll pay all the bills, but as my parents you'll need to pay for the gas, electric, water, services charge and anything else that might crop up. After all we need to be sure we're not cut off, we don't deserve that.'
'We thought it would be easiest all round if when mum does the weekly shop, she gets our groceries that we want and fills our fridge. Because we'll often be out with our friends or giving our famous inspirational talks to other hotshots, on self reliance and forging a path for yourself, maybe when she pops in she could also just check if the washing needs ironing or the dusting needs to be done - because once you and mum have painted the place, we'll need to make sure it's kept nice. After all me and the girlfriend have worked so hard for a place of our own and we deserve it.'
'Besides, we need to have somewhere lovely to live, because we're going to be making a lot of money in someway and we're going to be important people.'
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
'A few thoughts on how the monarchy deal with the press. It is, of course, both deeply personal and deeply manufactured. The monarchy, as an institution, would like us only to write positive things about them, but grudgingly accepts that is not our job. Press releases, social media all try to paint a positive image. But it is also there to inform the general public.
A couple of years ago Prince William was pretty upset with me. I’d called him a hypocrite for launching “saving wildlife initiatives” the same week as going big game shooting. More seriously, I’d called Wills “work-shy” and that he didn’t want to face up/take on his full-time royal role. Stay in Anmer with his wife & kids, doing his Air Amb job. Not step up. It was true, but also pretty hurtful. His press Sec, in effect, tried to get me sacked for writing it.
How did Wills react? He sought me out at a tour drinks reception. I defended my position. He defended his. I know he was hurt but he has always spoken to me since and has been charming. And I hope I have been charming back! I respected him for taking me on. We’re all human.
So I guess my point is that throwing a tantrum never works. Engagement is always better than fighting. Jaw jaw not war war. The r/ship between press and monarchy is never easy. We can be cruel, unfair and yes, get things wrong! But we always strive to get it right. Like the royals.'
@byEmilyAndrews
The wannebe most famous and important celebrities (remember what Ricky Gervaise said at the Golden Globes about why you should shut up?) who are sending messages of support to Meghan mistake rudeness for strength and disrespect for courage. On the contrary, it takes strength and courage to have dignity, grace, respect and endure (i.e. never give up) while living a life of service to others. Queen Elizabeth has her place in history (perhaps Elizabeth the Greatest?) and far more books will be written about her (have already been written about her), and her influence is far wider than Meghan can ever achieve, who will be remembered as the person who trashed all that with the disrespectful and rude way she said, basically, I can't do this, it is too hard, so I give up (but I still want all the perks). Narcissism, wokeness, the culture of know-it-all, grandiose celebrities will not last forever, but Queen Elizabeth's reign and legacy will always be remembered.
Only found out about this news today. So much to read. Didn't see this coming , though I suspected there were plans being made during that 6 week break.
My teenager daughters think the Harkles have done a cool thing by breaking away. They only see the breaking away part , and not the financial and other chaotic aspects.
They don't follow any royal news , except from me. I stopped discussing the Harkles debacles at home ages ago. Nobody here wants to hear about them.
What happens, if , after talks , Harry decides to remain in the UK and continue his duties? Markle decides to leave the UK , but not divorcing. Wouldn't that mean they get to continue a transatlantic marriage like the beginning of their relationship and thus she continues to enjoy all the royal perks? Horrible , I would say , but perhaps the Queen may talk him out of it .
Do these talks require the American High Commissioners input, seeing that a potential diplomatic row may erupt if Markle feels threatened ? And what is his take on this situation ? What about the prime minister ? Surely he should step in ? The Harkles looked like thieves who got away with a bank looting in that Canada house picture.
I still can't believe how this woman singlehandedly has infiltrated so many lives with so much deception and lies and flummery. I feel quite revolted for the Queen.
Let's hope that the public stand together , to protect their Queen in whichever way possible. Never before has the term excess baggage been so appropriate.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/prince-harry-queen-meghan-markle-defied-plans-senior-royals-a4330341.html
1. Both are biracial although BO apparently has always identified as Black whereas MM mostly as White (acting resume, for example)
2. Both are politically liberal
Otherwise the differences are pretty stark.
Obama is a 2-term US president--the first Black president--and *maybe* a potential king-maker for the 2020 election, MM is an aging cable TV actress who gained fame by persuading a dolt of a prince to rush into marriage.
Obama earned a undergraduate degree from Columbia with a political science major and a JD from Harvard (magna cum laude, law review) whereas MM apparently has an undergrad degree from NW in Theater with an add-on quasi-major in International Relations.
Obama is well-spoken (albeit a better speaker when he has a teleprompter and follows his speech-writer's script), MM is infamous for her word-salad utterances and ought to be better known for her documented plagiarism.
Obama's decision-making style was too often characterized by "paralysis by analysis" whereas MM's could charitably be "impulsive" and "emotional."
Obama dresses well whereas MM is frequently a mess. Clothes have sweat stains or look dirty, are too tight, wrinkled, price tags and plastic packing materials left on, out of season, too revealing... don't think we've ever seen Barry's underwear, for example.
Still, I admit it's a bit of a mystery to me Obama makes as much money as he does. I did pick up a used copy of his 1st book at the thrift shop for $1.65 but would never pay more than the price of a cheap concert ticket to see him (or see any other ex-president or non-presidential speaker) In fact, when I did have a chance to see Bill Clinton for free it was just too much trouble. Took a bubble bath instead.
Who are these people who will spend huge sums to see MM spout borrowed platitudes and watch her constantly run her hands through her wig?
Arch will be a super merching performer as they raise him in most eco-organic and woke ways possible. I see Royal Sussex organic baby foods and organic baby clothing, prams and other baby items. It can become as big as goop in the baby space. Then Megs gives birth to a baby girl to merch out...Look out world.
Charles must be decisive, give them the Prince Andrew treatment, and strip them of their titles of Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Obviously this kills all the Duo's ideas to monetize their Royal Sussex brand.....with 100 merching items already copyrighted.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7868843/Prince-Harry-DEFIED-Queen-ignoring-monarchs-instructions-not-announce-plans.html
A few musings of my own:
- I am not totally convinced Harry is on board with the statement made last night and the new website. Harry is not the brightest lad and I was wondering whether he has been blindsided by Meghan on both counts, just as he was with the pregnancy announcement and/or the surrogacy. Who's to know whether he was even with her in Canada or whether she was writing this new website on her own, possibly with the Tig website developers mentioned by a poster above? She may have had the website ready to go at any moment without Harry even knowing about it.
- The announcement seems a hurriedly put together affair, which wasn't thought through properly. The focus seems very much on the financial side of things, which is odd as I would have expected MM to focus on their treatment in the press, as LiverBird pointed out earlier. This does show us where MM's priorities lie - just follow the money!
- The lack of a wedding ring is significant, in my opinion. If the BRF was blindsided by the Harkles' announcement, they would not have had time to demand Diana's diamonds back, as some have suggested. If they did demand the diamonds back, then the BRF booted the Harkles out before Christmas. If the BRF did not know about yesterday's statement, then I am wondering whether the Harkles are headed for divorce. Living on two continents is a convenient way to hide the fact that you are no longer living together (if they ever did to begin with.
- I have wondered about the archieharrison domain names as well, Maggie. How can they possibly have been registered in February 2018 when the poor baby wasn't born until May (or March/April) 2019? Even his name seems like an inside joke, for there are more and more questions raised whether he is actually Harry's son.