Instead of the traditional leather gifts on the Sussexes' 3rd Anniversary, we got an announcement for plans of an Indian Community Relief Center after hearing Princess Beatrice's baby announcement.
Let's continue the conversation...
Not much appears to be going on. Living Legends came and went without fanfare ... what's the next event? Super Bowl - Sunday February 11th? Oscar's - March 10th? In the mean time, some things are still rolling along in various starts and stops like Samantha's law suit. Or tax season is about to begin in the US. The IRS just never goes away. Nor do bills (utility, cable, mortgage, food, cars, security, landscape people, cleaning people, koi person and so on). There's always another one. Elsewhere others just continue to glide forward without a real hint of being disrupted by some news out of California. That would be the new King and Queen or the Prince/Princess of Wales. Yes there are health risks which seemed to come out of nowhere. But. The difference is that these people are calmly living their lives with minimal drama.
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Abby's absolutely right - a little while ago somebody mentioned about `looking for the things that aren't there/didn't happen' or wtte. The things we'd expect but which are missing.
Det. Gregory: Is there any other point to which you would wish to draw my attention?
Holmes: To the curious incident of the dog in the night-time.
Det. Gregory: The dog did nothing in the night-time.
Holmes: That was the curious incident.
In “The Adventure of Silver Blaze”, one of Arthur Conan Doyle’s most popular stories, Sherlock Holmes cracks the case of the missing race horse and the murdered trainer by noting that the guard dog did NOT bark on the night in question, revealing that the criminal must have been well known to the dog.
The absence of a signal can be just as informative as its presence.
https://www.epsilontheory.com/the-dog-that-didnt-bark/
'What might Harry’s lad say to his therapist?
In his latest interview, Prince Harry explained that one reason he decided to move to the US was to break the cycle of “genetic pain and suffering” within the Royal family.
Those of us with slightly more experience of the childrearing business will have smiled at Harry’s assumption that his own children will give their father an A* for parenting. Most of us would prefer not to know what our son or daughter tells the therapist.
Imagine the scene:
May 2043, a consulting room in Beverly Hills.
Therapist: Your family was pretty isolated when you were growing up?
Archie:
We had grandparents and cousins and stuff, but we didn’t really see them. Dad’s dad emails me – but it’s a secret.
Therapist: Would you say your parents were happy?
Archie: I think Dad always missed home. He loved being in the Army. We always played soldiers when Mom was out.
Therapist: Do you think that’s why you joined the Marines?
Archie: Yeah, I think my parents wanted me to be a Nelson Mandela humanitarian bigshot …
Therapist: How did your mother react?
Archie: Disappointed, but she gets to boast about me being a patriot on her campaign literature.
Therapist: Your mother’s running for political office?
Archie: President …
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It wasn't a roof that they replaced. It was a ceiling, in one room.
And funds to repair the ceiling had already been committed to by some other entity.
Once again, the Harkles were giving no cash, only attaching their name to look good, just an opportunity for them to grandstand. Didn't sound like they actually gave any cash.
There was something funky with that kitchen they sponsored in either Dominica or Puerto Rico, too. It was already built, supposedly all the kitchen needed was a microwave and coffee maker and other small appliances.
Sure should be interesting to see what Archewell actually contributed to these things. Besides their name.
It is all about being willing to say: This stops here. And, then being able to say instead of responding as feels normal pattern (what I grew up seeing) but doing something else which I did not see in practice nor does not naturally come out of me.
My bet ie that the child/ren, if dedicated at all, will be assigned to the Mother Goddess. I'm not sure about the twin theory - tho' she'd love to catch up with Catherine at one go. Two separate surrogacies?
you're right about generational behaviour patterns. Sometimes, it's something we're not even aware of that is being repeated.
For example, I know someone whose family has had absent mothers in the family for several generations. The mothers either die or leave. This has been going on for several generations. Well, my friend thought that the pattern had been broken in his parents' generation, but his mother was so cold and punishing, that even though she was present, her love was absent.
Great comments if you haven't.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9596865/Palace-aide-rolled-eyes-Meghan-Markle-common-baby-shower-New-York.html
Have you all read the "Baby Shower" article in the DM?
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As usual, the comments are what make the article!!! :)
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On another subject -- Apparently there's going to be a Lifetime movie about M & H "Escaping the Palace" ... !?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9597731/Lifetime-reveals-image-latest-actors-play-Prince-Harry-Meghan.html
Will definitely be giving that load of tosh a miss! lol
It's getting late here, so will leave the comments from the movie article until the morning.
I'll enjoy a good chuckle over breakfast.😄
Goodnight :)
The baby shower was tacky and would have been even more tacky the second time if it was as ostentatious as previously compared to the Oscars event.
Sorry I didn't respond more quickly, was eating dinner :) Good night, sleep well! (Off I go as well, was up well before dawn this a.m., now sandman's calling)
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The number of the LSA Unpopular MM Opinions 2 thread post you really need to peek at if you want a laugh. It’s perfect.
Shows two photos:
Megs in her Raising the Future tee from the Oprah mental health show trailer.
The other photo (shopped of course):
Catherine...laughing in a white Raising the Future King tee.
🤣👏✨
Lifetime and escaping the palace? Everything they do is about them escaping their horrid times in England. When it's time to escape the US, wonder where they'll try to go?
World Central Kitchen is operated by a celebrity chef from Spain, José Andrés, who owns restaurants there and in NYC, LA, Miami, Vegas etc. Celebrity power, taught culinary physics at Harvard (If you ever put cream in your coffee cup before the coffee, you will be tasting results of culinary physics).
He was an Obama ambassador for immigration and naturalization. He got a White House honor in 2016. He was nominated for a Nobel Prize a couple of years ago. He became an outspoken critic of Trump’s stand on immigration. 2018 James Beard Foundation Humanitarian of the Year.
Megs wants some of that magic and connection.
Up until now, the family did not respond to the attacks and rude behavior of this couple.When
The Couple engaged in petty stunts to steal the spotlight from other family members, The Family was privately annoyed… but did not react in public.When The Couple lobbed insults and accusations,
The Family was privately shocked… but did not react in public.
Some members of his family, notably [redacted], wanted to counter the charges being leveled point by point. The decision was made that to do so would be seen as reactive and would only prolong and exacerbate the discussion. They continued to include the antagonists in social media posts and maintained a dignified silence about the insults and attacks in the hope that they would would stop.
Unfortunately, they did not stop. The attacks continued.
Now, The Family has decided that enough is enough.
They have had quite enough of his nonsense. After the latest round of attacks, the family came up with a unified strategy by which everyone in the family could abide.
We told you before that the family would not attack directly. Sure enough, we were right!
The strategy is subtle and dignified.
No consideration will be made nor recognition given to [the couple’s] activities or schedule. Those quiet acts of omission will make it clear that they (and especially she) are now “personae non gratae.” It will also deprive them of publicity, the oxygen that fuels their unseemly behavior.
The family will simply carry on with their own lives and activities. The omission of [the couple] from their communications will be quite subtle, yet, each time it happens, it will be noticed because it will demonstrate a distinct break from past traditions.
Basically, The Family is not going to attack The Couple. They are going to freeze out The Couple.
It’s a Cold War.
When will this war end? As we told you before, the only way back is without her.
While they were once hopeful he would come around, the family has now come to the unfortunate realization that there will be no reconciliation as long as he is married to her. As a couple, they are manipulative, vindictive and completely untrustworthy.
Similar: Only One Way Back For Fredo
The Couple:
The Family:
Sounds like the BRF is going full grey rock with the Sixes, and it is the only way to go.
The lack of acknowledgement will send Kate's sister-in-law into a manic rage which will see the Sixes attempt more and more combative techniques until their madness is laid bare before the whole world.
They're giving them enough rope to hang themselves with. And we're here with the popcorn ;)
World Central Kitchen is operated by a celebrity chef from Spain, José Andrés
I have been seeing this guy around for years. I don't like his super-lib politics but he is a full on humanitarian who gets it done. Unlike M/H where talk is cheap. Andrés set up open air kitchens to feed people in Puerto Rico after their massive hurricane. IOW he is a donation magnet for his good works. He owns about 6 elite restaurants that have suffered under Covid. So what does he do? He opens up new ways to feed people who are left poor with Covid.
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/restaurants/jose-andres-on-changing-the-world-through-the-power-of-food-12252945
Just another case of M/H glomming off of the good works of others to increase their fame points.
OT I am having very difficult reaction to first covid-19 shot. Doctor told me today as I am at high risk I need to get the second shot. I was warned to get everything that needs to be done as second will be worse. I am blessed my semi retired service cat is running point and teaching the job to the young cat I rescued. He has young guy doing "sniff" checks. My service cat has saved my life more than a few times. He is also helping young guy learn about med remainders and my limits.
So sorry to hear about the bad reaction to the vaccine!
But super cool support Cat & kitty! One day you will have to tell us all about that.
And now you have to go back for the second? Can one mix brands? Like Pfizer first shot and J&J for the second? It might not even help, but its dreadful for you to be waiting.
Please take good care of yourself (I get the irony here). And please let us know how you are doing. Hugs to you.
You were right on the money! Sunshine Sachs does the PR for the World Central Kitchen. So now we know what that's all about.
From Linkedin:
Caroline Head- Sunshine Sachs
Los Angeles, California, United States · Senior Account Executive, Brand Integration · Sunshine Sachs
Clients include: Adobe Brand, Adobe Spark, Wine Access, McCormick, Gray Malin, World Central Kitchen, Xbox, Women's Earth Alliance, HFPA (Golden Globe ...
Samantha sees and knows her sister for exactly who she is and publicly stated it. She got attacked and slated for it. She’s nothing like M and as Teasmade said she’s suffering from MS, any money she makes from her book can only benefit her.
What we don’t know is how many other sunshine Sachs clients did SS ask before world kitchen said yes. I’d like to think alphabetically and W is at the end (in case Harry is reading)
OT I am having very difficult reaction to first covid-19 shot. Doctor told me today as I am at high risk I need to get the second shot. I was warned to get everything that needs to be done as second will be worse. I am blessed my semi retired service cat is running point and teaching the job to the young cat I rescued. He has young guy doing "sniff" checks. My service cat has saved my life more than a few times. He is also helping young guy learn about med remainders and my limits.
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I'm sorry you have had a difficult reaction to the vaccine. I had my 2nd shot two days ago, first shot was fine, second felt like I was punched really hard in my upper arm. But that's getting better as of today. I'm guessing it's a hit or miss on what one's reaction would be. I'm the only person I know that's had the Moderna shot so I know of no one else that I can compare my experience with.
I'm also the only person I know that didn't have a bad reaction, especially with the second shot. Several months ago I did a round of chemo in order to kill my immunity so that I would regrow a new immunity.
Maybe that's a factor in why I didn't get a bad reaction. I'm also high risk because of my MS and my compromised immunity, so I was fully prepare for a reaction and was pleasantly surprised at my outcome.
I think it's pretty cool you have a service cat. I inherited my cat from one of my son's since he (the cat) didn't get along with my grandson after he was born. My cat services no one, lol. Glad you have that little extra help, very very cool.
Feel better soon....
I kind of know what you mean. Lately I am wondering about the full Sam story (how participatory is she in M’s facade). It seems unlikely but something is strange.
@Deer,
My doctor told me the jabs provide good immunity for up to about six months, that people are seeming to respond differently to each sort of brand jab depending on personal biology/health, and that one has about 79% to 82% immunity after the first jab.i know several people from work who opted out of the second jab after bad experience with the first and were told the same thing about their immunity level. Since follow up jabs are needed annually, you might ask the doctor if you can try another brand next time? I was advised by my doctor, after he assessed my health and based on what he has learned from some big vax panel he is on, to get only one kind of jab whenever I do it....interestingly, all my blood relations who have had that jab have been fine, minor symptoms, but those that took another kind of jab all had the same longer-lasting, very unpleasant experience. Maybe that is random luck, but I found it interesting. It makes me wonder why information like this isn’t out there for others, unless they plan to provide it to people in future. I hope you will be okay. My doctor said drinking a lot of water in the day or two before the vax up to the vax appointment and after,mseems to dramatically reduce bad symptoms as well. He also noted that taking Tylenol for severe issues like fever or body pain helped enormously as well per their patient info.
Samantha sees and knows her sister for exactly who she is and publicly stated it. She got attacked and slated for it. She’s nothing like M and as Teasmade said she’s suffering from MS, any money she makes from her book can only benefit her.
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Samantha certainly does have MM's number. MM has had all the mental disorders since she was young. As the older sister she could see it more clearly than one of MM's little friends could have.
As far as Samantha making any money because it would help her in her struggle with her MS, I can fully relate as I too have MS and financially it's always a struggle. I can no longer work and only recently took a buyout on my pension, so now I no longer need to make hard decisions on whether to get my medications or buy food each month. Samantha is in a wheelchair so her MS is much more progressed than I am. I can still walk. It really turns out that everyone knows the POS that MM is and fortunately Samantha never signed a NDA.
The mother of Edo’s son Wolfie has moved out of Edo’s house into another house, with her new partner. More good news for Bea!
Back when they were only offering it to the doctors and elderly, I read of a doctor, when asked what he prefered. He actually did say he liked both and would like to have one of each. Maybe alternating is not such a bad idea after all when it comes time to re-do it.
Hope you feel better.
https://youtu.be/M8Sbc6Z4hTY
Why I mentioned Samantha having MS was because I’m empathetic towards her (and you too), I suffered a spinal stroke after an operation in my early teens and understood the challenges of life changes etc. MS, is a truly debilitating disease. I hope she makes millions off the back of her Sister as it will help improve her life. She truly has her sisters measure!
I wish you the very best and hope things (financially at least) are now easier.
OT: re jab
Back when they were only offering it to the doctors and elderly, I read of a doctor, when asked what he prefered. He actually did say he liked both and would like to have one of each. Maybe alternating is not such a bad idea after all when it comes time to re-do it.
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That is interesting. I drove pretty far and into a dangerous area that I would never normally go to for my first shot. While at my local pharmacy I realized they were also doing vaccine shots. I asked the pharmacist which shot they were giving and it was the pzier vaccine and I had just had the moderna shot. He told me I couldn't mix shots.
Now when the booster shot is needed I'm not going to the same pharmacy that I had both shots with, so it most likely will be a different company.
@Jersey Girl,
Why I mentioned Samantha having MS was because I’m empathetic towards her (and you too), I suffered a spinal stroke after an operation in my early teens and understood the challenges of life changes etc. MS, is a truly debilitating disease. I hope she makes millions off the back of her Sister as it will help improve her life. She truly has her sisters measure!
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Wow! I'm speechless, I'm so sorry that happened to you and at such a young. My heart goes out to you and that you've also had your own life struggles as a result.
I looked up when Samantha was diagnosed with MS and it was in 2008. I was diagnosed in 1998 a full ten years before she was, yet I can still walk. I hate walking and I'm having a new porch build because my steps are too high, even though they are the normal height. My contractor is adding an additional step so I don't have to life my legs as high, less pain for me.
Samantha on the other hand was diagnosed in 2008 and was in a wheelchair in 2008. She must have had symptoms on and off for many years before a final diagnosis, while I was diagnosed fairly quickly the first time I knew something was wrong.
One day after work I took my youngest son to Toys R Us in NYC, afterwards I just randomly decided to go to the top of the Empire State Building, as he had never been there and it was right across the street from the store. I had been to the top many times in my life so it was no big deal.
As soon as we were at the top, I felt off balance, I felt dizzy, I could barely stand. Trying my hardest not to ruin the experience for my son, I stood up against the building, trying not to fall over, I wanted to burst out crying and wanted to get out of there, but still allowing my son to have that experience. It was awful, something I never felt before. It was vertigo on steroids. I felt instantly better after getting off the elevator. Immediately called my doctor, had several tests done and I was diagnosed within weeks.
Seems Samantha went undiagnosed for years. It's like the vaccine I suppose, it varies from person to person. I had nearly no reaction to both shots and other's were sick for a few days.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9595467/Europe-approves-Covid-vaccine-passports-vaccinated-American-holidaymakers.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9571067/Coronavirus-Mixing-matching-Pfizer-AstraZeneca-jabs-worsen-effects.html
Jdubya- Thanks for posting the blind. It probably doesn't seem to be 'enough' of the reaction in many of our minds, but actually it's very affective for narcissists. If the Royal Family just freezes them out, it makes H&M look stupid when they constantly whine about how mistreated they are.
I believe the only part of the freeze out strategy will be in regards to H&M's children. The baby being born, Archie's birthday. Hard to say nothing about those things publicly. They'll likely release some press tidbits about how they privately congratulated them.
The Freeze Out strategy will be something interesting for us to observe!
I gotta read the DM article about the baby shower now.
Exactly re the threat of truth bombs — it shows the real intentions behind this sham show. Because none of them have scruples and just want money and attention, they will keep using serious subjects without shame, for personal exposure.
Harry is trash.
I've been married and never a celebrity or wannabe celebrity, but the scrutiny these two are now under has to be stressing the marriage to the limits. My ex and I fought over stupid things compared to what these two are fighting about.
In public sure, there's a united front, just as there is in any marriage, but knowing they are fighting and will only get worse once the new baby arrives, I don't see a long lasting marriage happening. So much water under the bridge, and now knowing MM will never be welcomed back into the RF in any capacity, how does that make her feel? More angry is what I think!!!
Thank you so much for this:
https://youtu.be/M8Sbc6Z4hTY
Whoever put `Mrs Bates' inner monologue with the Mrs6 shots was a genius - shows the woman's really Psycho!
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Another brilliant comment about this interview with Nigel Farage:
`Harry and Meghan 'are insulting America'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvBmdgP8Imc
"Prince Harry is probably just jealous that he doesn't have free speech in his own marriage. LMAO"
I can't believe that this isn't a cause for concern at Westminster, it's really serious for a member of the RF to criticise the internal affairs of another state, an ally to boot. The fact that he is so obviously ignorant, with presumable serious `learning difficulties' doesn't lessen the offence.
Perhaps there is some truth in the suggestions that things are moving behind the scenes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeHKG7J5--g
Maneki- Your theoretical therapist session with Archie made me a little sad.
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I didn't write it, I only posted it but, yes, it is sad for Archie. He has cousins he probably won't meet now for a long time, if ever.
Raising the future what? Is the future too low? Does this mean she is raising future adults or bananas? Oh, I get it! CHICKENS! She's raising chickens to have future chickens. Makes perfect sense. :/
Who or what is the future exactly? The name of your unborn child/children? Archie? Other people's kids? Space travel, new tech?
Don't all mothers who have (real) children also raise them for the future? Otherwise, do they expect them to die soon?
How are you raising the future exactly? By having children, as most women do? I don't see them wearing tee shirts congratulating themselves on having children whilst saving the world.
Is she taking body building classes? The future must be very heavy to raise.
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I could go on and on, but you get my drift. Her tee shirt is a word salad, too. And she managed to make a word salad with only three words.
Even #6's wife's tee shirt saying, "Raising The Future," doesn't make sense.
Raising the future what? Is the future too low? Does this mean she is raising future adults or bananas? Oh, I get it! CHICKENS! She's raising chickens to have future chickens. Makes perfect sense. :/
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LOL
Have you seen the meme referenced already by other Nutties that shows a laughing Catherine in a white T-shirt that has (photoshopped) black lettering, "Raise the future King"???
😂
Have you listened to the latest Lady C’s video? I have and it was one of the best ones yet...and I signed the petition! ;o)
There’s a link to the petition under the description. However here it is:
http://chng.it/Hd5QqvbG8p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeHKG7J5--g
I played it at 1.5 of original speed which makes her sound more het up but she's starting a petition to put it to Harry that if he asked HM to put the titles in abeyance he would free himself and her from the `shackles'.
She points out that that they don't need the handles any more - `Harry and Meghan' (or I suppose `Meghan and Harry') are so big already the tiles are superfluous.
She is very clear about the dangerous territory they now inhabit and the damage they are doing so I beg you all to watch it, even if you find her presentation difficult. Just click on the `settings' icon and select `playback' speed if you find her delivery too slow. I was comfortable at 1.5 - and my hearing isn't what it was.
I'll just tell my friends and ask them to pass it on. I'll repeat the link regularly to help in finding it it :
Lady C's petition.
http://chng.it/Hd5QqvbG8p
Samantha Markle has recent Twitter posts showing MM’s birth in 1981. One refers to a photo of MM at age 5 at a wedding. Yr minus her age at weddng = 1981 b year. I think it is from Samantha’s book.
Most important is a screen shot of the (statewide, official record index) “California Birth Index” that shows Rachel Meghan Markle b 1 Aug 1981 in Los Angeles County, CA and her mother’s name as Ragland. That record can be viewed on Samantha’s Twitter feed or Ancestry.com. I would post a screen shot, but I think there are copyright issues. The Twitter URL is below. Scroll down pretty far (time stamp is about 22 hrs ago; it is 12:26 pm central daylight savings time here) are 3 tweets in a row about MM age. The third is Tweeter “Lady Agnew” posts a screen shot from the California Birth Index showing Harry’s wife’s birth information and Ragland as her mother ‘s maiden name.
Sorry to be so wordy. I wish the “She lies about her age” comments would go away.” It’s a great example of what happens when people have no receipts but share info they “think” is true as fact. The incorrect info never goes away.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheMarkleSammy
Now we have . . . .
That the anger being used to fuel the actions can help lead into making more strategic mistakes ... which can, as always, help the long game.
I think that truth about the lies told by Bashir are coming out at a good time in some ways. It shows the BRF as not doing all that crazy conspiracy crap and so attempts to use it as a basis for continuing what allegedly happened or failed to happen in the recent past with 6 and wife sorta falls apart.
Somehow I doubt Harry will want to acknowledge that it was Bashir and not the RF whose actions ultimately led to his mother’s death at the hands of a drunk driver in the Pont d’Alma tunnel in 1997.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeHKG7J5--g
It's very important.
"Today Diana’s brother Earl Spencer gave an interview in which he blamed Martin Bashir for his sister’s death. This coincides with the publication of Lord Dyson’s investigation into Bashir’s deceitful behavior that set the wheels in motion for D to spill her guts in the notorious Panorama interview.
Somehow I doubt Harry will want to acknowledge that it was Bashir and not the RF whose actions ultimately led to his mother’s death at the hands of a drunk driver in the Pont d’Alma tunnel in 1997."
According to Omid which is presumably the view from Montecito, this tweet in reaction to the results of this report which completely glosses over the traumatic end results for Diana and asks us to concentrate on revelations as the more important thing or perhaps they don't want anyone to start seeing the parallel of Meghan/ Oprah and Bashir:
https://64.media.tumblr.com/bfee3d92c6c7c5c79d2cba491a3d3424/94b286c1d94ec842-4f/s1280x1920/0f65d76a130ab30f2aeced1fd4f541d325f31e5c.jpg
"The Dyson Report brings huge shame on the BBC and Bashir over how they obtained access to Princess Diana. Unethical journalism is never acceprable, but let's also not let this incident take away from the real trauma and traumatic experiences Diana shared about her royal life."
Scobie truly is despicable. Almost as despicable as his patrons H and TW. God forbid the truth should ever get in the way of making a buck off the death of H’s mother.
It's a matter of convincing him that he doesn't need the handles that cause him so much pain - if this can be achieved , in theory, everyone should be pleased.
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Not M.
I can't reiterate enough, nor stress enough, that it is the "Princess" title M wants.
Never mind the Royal Dukedoms that every Brit knows take precedence. Most every American thinks "Prince" and "Princess" is the pinnacle, title-wise, second only to the Queen and Prince Charles the heir.
I will bet you my home, my car, my paycheck and whatever else I've got that if the Dukedom of Sussex is removed, whether by Her Majesty or "voluntarily" by H, that if the "Prince" thing is all that remains, M will be floating on Cloud 9. Almost all Americans will scratch their heads at the "Princess Henry" thing and automatically start calling her Princess M***an, and she won't lift a finger to change it. Then the American marketing world, and Hollywood, and whatever else, will be her oyster. Everyone will assume she was "promoted."
This .... must .... not .... happen. Please trust me.
Random thoughts touching upon your response to @WBBM
I've been thinking about removing Harry from the LoS....the most difficult of all the things that can be taken from him.
It goes back to every time we've skipped the LoS without actually executing anyone - the tower option.
Queen ( with agreement of privy council) can simply block No 6 and his descendants forever.
I've been researching the transition of Queen Anne to No 51 (George I). It requires documents from the Elizabeth tower or a conversation with someone with access who has seen the signed document, but in order to skip 50 people parliament used the excuse of catholicism to block them and their descendants without actually taking them out of the line or pronouncing them traitors nor exiling them.
No 6 has made very clear he abhors the royals, the monarchy ( though not the perks), the country and the people. He's gone as far as saying he was simply pretending to play along during all those CW tours so we can add the CW in the category of royal things he despises ( though not the perks).
The Queen could take the wording used to skip the 50 catholics and apply it to Harry and his descendants and simply change the reasons -hating monarchy, UK, CW.
A modern form of the tower without bloodshed or impuning his character while achieving the desired goal.
The titles only require LP. Including the Prince/ ess style - see HRH Patricia of Connaught, granddaughter of Queen Victoria who was downgraded to Lady Patricia Ramsey in 1919. And no more HRH / Princess or Princess of the UK status. Done by LP. Granted this was a voluntary demotion and The Lady Patricia and her descendants remained on good terms with the family all their lives, but i believe this is the precedent the royals are trying to go with the no 6s. If they voluntarily give them up, they will lose all status just like Patricia.
Sadly for the Palace, the no 6s have realised the commercial value of the title s and status so it's going to have to be the hard way rather than persuasion.
Finally, no 6 has no right or claim to Charles's duchy. It was purely goodwill that Charles was funding him ( and the Cambridges) from it. And breaking the law in doing so. This is why Charles hid the funding within his accounts rather than openly show it. The royal charter for the duchy explicitly limits funding to the HEIR APPARENT who has been declared DUKE OF CORNWALL. No one else and certainly no other dukes.
As such, Charles grew up wealthy from age 3 when he became heir apparent, Duke of Cornwall. Neither his siblings nor his parents could share in that wealth unless he chose to do so and even then from profits already handed to him rather than directly fund them.
By funding his sons who are not heirs apparent or dukes of Cornwall, he directly breaks that law.
That's why there have been many articles carefully making it plain that money for the no 6s came from Charles's private funds and not the duchy. All that was to counter the no 6s trumpeting loudly and revealing something that should have remained a very private arrangement or one that was never confirmed despite press speculation.
"@Acquitaine
Scobie truly is despicable. Almost as despicable as his patrons H and TW. God forbid the truth should ever get in the way of making a buck off the death of H’s mother."
I was struck by the callousness and complete lack of empathy.
Someone died as a direct result of this interview, but let's concentrate on their traumatic life instead of being angry that they were tricked into essentially self-harming which led to a series of poor decisions that ended in a tunnel in Paris.
@Rebecca said...
"@Acquitaine
Scobie truly is despicable. Almost as despicable as his patrons H and TW. God forbid the truth should ever get in the way of making a buck off the death of H’s mother."
I was struck by the callousness and complete lack of empathy.
Someone died as a direct result of this interview, but let's concentrate on their traumatic life instead of being angry that they were tricked into essentially self-harming which led to a series of poor decisions that ended in a tunnel in Paris.
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Exploitation of the vulnerable ... that is the golden egg the media have learned earns the gold. It is despicable beyond belief.
Diana eschewed Royal Protection, because someone convinced her, or she convinced herself, they were spies of BP. Hence, she allowed herself to be driven at top speed by a drunken, high maniac into a pillar in a Paris tunnel. (Why she didn't put on her seatbelt, we'll never know.)
But one never hears that factual story. Meanwhile, we get endless money-making speculations from the press, which H seems to be all too happy to feed.
It's hard enough to grow up and then add to it everyone knowing your family business, thinking about how they know your mother but it is never like you did when you went home and had dinner.
Sad. But part of growing up is that you start to realize how to rethink how you view your parents (as humans, as people who may have been doing the best they could and less like perfect god-like decision makers). He, like his brother, did not get to work on this while they both grew up and she moved on and figured out what she would do next (as she died before that could start).
Sad but he's holding onto memories which, over time, fade. He's looking back. His brother, otoh, is about bringing out those memories (what the best of her) was to his kids and to the future of the country.
No consideration will be made nor recognition given to [the couple’s] activities or schedule. Those quiet acts of omission will make it clear that they (and especially she) are now “personae non gratae.” It will also deprive them of publicity, the oxygen that fuels their unseemly behavior.
The family will simply carry on with their own lives and activities. The omission of [the couple] from their communications will be quite subtle, yet, each time it happens, it will be noticed because it will demonstrate a distinct break from past traditions.
Basically, The Family is not going to attack The Couple. They are going to freeze out The Couple.
It’s a Cold War.
Do we think this will extend to the blessed arrival of little Diana Avocadoria Markle-Windsor? I would hope so, but I wonder if the Family is going to flinch and release some tepid 'congratulations' for Her Majesty's "11th great-grandchild". I hopehopehope they stay resolutely silent, but the Palace message has been known to backtrack on itself.
http://chng.it/Hd5QqvbG8p
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/05/20/watch-prince-harrys-outpourings-mental-health-may-harm-good/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-onward-journey
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I thought I was asking, not telling, Nutties to watch the video as I belief it's probably the most important one she's done. She explains everything very fully.
Still, it's up to you...
So Harry, how about a documentary on how the dishonest and dishonorable reporter Martin Bashir destroyed your mother psychologically?
Why is she releasing it now? For attention. pure & simple, for attention. She knows it will start people talking about HER. she needs that
Can we put the rumor that she is years older than she says to rest?
Raspberry Ruffle said...
Lady C stated that all of Harry’s titles including Prince and his style is part of the petition, that is and I quote Prince Harry to request The Queen to put his titles into abeyance. He would be therefore known and called Mr Harry Mountbatten-Windsor. If he fails to put forward the request there appears to be wheels in motion to have them removed officially. Nutties really need to listen to her video to hear it explained.
Me: This is the first I've heard of it. All along, it's been "he'll still be Prince Harry even if Dukedom is rescinded."
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Thanks for making the HRH issue clear in relation to what Lady C has asked for.
I just wish you did not feel required to also tell us that we need to listen to the video. (Me: Especially after all these years of hearing "he'll still be a prince of the blood.
Personally, I just turned in to today's events and had not yet had the opportunity to do so. I asked Wild Boar / the blog to clarify in order to get quick satisfaction to my question since I had just researched the HRH last night. I have noticed many Nutties feel the removal of the titles will allow them to go by prince and princess which is one of the reasons why I have always stood by my opinion of complete removal of everything to defang the Sussexes.
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THANK YOU.
No, I still think she is 44.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9602087/William-blasts-Martin-Bashirs-deceit-secure-Panorama-interview-Diana.html
Is that it?
Thank you. I've just had a very long day, and still have some work ahead of me tonight.
"In an era of fake news, public service broadcasting and a free press have never been more important. These failings, identified by investigative journalists, not only let my mother down, and my family down; they let the public down too."
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it - H!
My takeaway was the style of HRH would go too. The fact he’d be reduced to Mr, and once all his titles go (either via his request or they are forcefully removed) it would be underscored in law (I’m paraphrasing). Lady C is very thorough with her explanations and goes into considerable detail.
**@LT Uhura
Thanks for the response.😍
Yes, the titles the Harkles received when they married are one thing and Harry's HRH he acquired at birth is another.
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Both! M is frantically merching off of them, tho I still say the "Princess" thing is the ultimate prize for M, if HMTQ allows Harry to keep it. I just don't see them giving it up until I see it.
I am about halfway through watching the Lady Colin Campbell video that other Nutties claim as proof that H and his strumpet will finally be stripped of ALL titles. So far, just seeing margarine over bread. Trying to keep an open mind :)
I feel very much for William who has been left alone to fight this on so many fronts.
He should probably join his wife on the stripper pole because he's dancing for dollars if he elects to keep the titles. I *think* he will elect to keep titles until he has no other options because, really, what else can he do? Taking drugs and drinking to excess isn't really a great career option. Selling salacious gossip about one's grandmother and all the rest of the relations for that filthy lucre is looked upon with contempt unless one is a certified bottom-feeding life form.
O/T, I see that Dunn & Bradstreet are moving their global headquarters from New Jersey to Jacksonville, Florida. I don't know whether that is going to be good or bad for us.
There is a direct line between that interview and Diana's death but I've wished so many times that someone would say 'seatbelt!' to H. His mother would be alive if she had worn a seatbelt. We all know that. H never mentions it. If he truly wants to use what happened to help people, just do some public information films on wearing seatbelts and avoiding drunk driving. It's that simple.
Of course we're all human and we all make mistakes. I still end up thinking that if Diana had had RPOs she would have been made to wear a seatbelt. She was a flawed human being in a stressful position only partly her own fault. She should have been protected from herself. Her younger son is obsessed with that entire story and obsessed with the need to avoid repeating the tragedy, not realising he's already repeated it. He took the first steps more than a year ago. With far less justification than his mother had. In fact, no justification at all.
Diana was tricked into following her worst impulses and ended up on the wrong side of the palace walls. H has chosen to walk out and not only that. He's lobbing grenades back over the walls whenever he feels like it. William has broken the cycle. H has repeated it and made it worse. And he's not finished yet. How much worse can it get? How can he be so blind to what he has done? Yes he's a dolt but no one is that stupid. M must have him in psychological blinkers.
Like other Nutties, I have an awful feeling that some kind of tragedy is hovering over all this. I dimly felt that in the summer of 1997, seeing those photos of Diana and Dodi on newspaper hoardings on my way to work each morning. 'Oh God, what's she doing now?' I never imagined death. I thought she was demeaning herself, undermining her significant achievements and would regret it later.
Now, in 2021, we can all imagine infinitely worse outcomes for Diana's son. H needs an intervention. By his blood family. Before it's too late. Personally speaking though, I just don't care whether he gets one or not. Oh The irony. The Sussexes go on and on and on about building compassion and empathy, while having quite the opposite effect on those forced to listen to them.
P.S. I signed Lady C's petition and thought her talk today was excellent. Recognising that this is getting serious and Something Must Be Done.
Marriage falling apart, separation ordered but no divorce, Diana still HRH with royal protection —> panorama interview—> marriage implosion, divorce ordered, HRH stripped, prayers no longer offered for her at mass, royal protection taken away——> Diana paranoid over RF spying on her, refuses royal protection anyway ——> ends up spending July with Dodi and his drunk driver and his security who oks everything that night——> everyone dies but the one wearing the seatbelt... the bodyguard.
Should have gone— separation with no divorce——> royal protection ——-> either still separated or marriage contracted for public eyes and sake of the family —-> Diana alive today
Basically that’s the jist as I understand it
I do like the Lady C petition. It is truly a put up or shut up moment. If he DOES elect to throw away his birthright, people will roll their eyes and say "WHAT an idiot!" If she realizes that the only thing he has to bank on are his royal connections and title and stomps her size 12 Jimmy Choo down (preferably on 6's instep) and refuses to relinquish all titles and place in line to the throne forever, people will say "WHAT a hypocrite! Stop complaining, you whiny little *itch, you CHOSE this. Nobody forced you into a car and held you at gunpoint when you recited your vows."
I'll believe it when I see it. Still doesn't satisfy me with the Prince thing.
O/T, I see that Dunn & Bradstreet are moving their global headquarters from New Jersey to Jacksonville, Florida. I don't know whether that is going to be good or bad for us.
Come on down to Florida (South Floridian me) and enjoy NO state taxes, excellent infrastructure (if you drive around ANY neighborhood, nice, neat landscape along most any road), NOBODY harassing you for anything, much less the "mask" thing. To us, it's like the Spanish Flu in its late stages, going away, like all viruses.
Back On/T, I still don't see anything, Lady C or not, that guarantees that the "prince" thing will be a goner. Which it should be.
Watching Panorama tonight made me so angry. Especially Tony Hall's failure to check Bashir's claims. A very simple step that would have been obvious and necessary to any one of us, had we been in Hall's highly paid and highly responsible position (former BBC director general).
There is a direct line between that interview and Diana's death but I've wished so many times that someone would say 'seatbelt!' to H. His mother would be alive if she had worn a seatbelt. We all know that. H never mentions it. If he truly wants to use what happened to help people, just do some public information films on wearing seatbelts and avoiding drunk driving. It's that simple.
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For all of my loudmouth Yank statements, I'm still one who cared for Diana.
Thank you.
Thank you. I’ve posted the California Birth Index information here at least 3-4 times, including today, and I don’t think anyone ever responded.
We can certainly agree that she was b 1Aug 1981, as she claims, and the evidence is from an official California government record.
I hadn’t seen the searchable California Birth Index online before, except on Ancestry.com, so thanks for that link.
Wills - in a statement tonight, Prince William told of his 'indescribable sadness' that the controversial Panorama interview increased his mother's 'fear, paranoia and isolation' in her final years.
Sad that in todays case MM, not a sleazy reporter, is the one who hoodwinked a prince and has encouraged his fear, paranoia and isolation. Hope wills sees the irony of the isolation part.
JH -
'Our mother was an incredible woman who dedicated her life to service. She was resilient, brave, and unquestionably honest.
'The ripple effect of a culture of exploitation and unethical practices ultimately took her life.
'To those who have taken some form of accountability, thank you for owning it.
'That is the first step towards justice and truth. Yet what deeply concerns me is that practices like these - and even worse- are still widespread today. Then, and now, it's bigger than one outlet, one network, or one publication.
So sad the apple fell so far from the tree.
JH -dishonest, live of thirstyness money grabbing greed, and participating in his very own panorama style interviews.
I still have hope that lne day he will see the light and attempt to redeem himself ....but its not looking good :(
I found it interesting that Prince William emphasised the importance of a free press near the end, as H will use the report's findings as part of his unremitting battle against a free press.
The Sussexes authoritarian instincts have become plain to everyone now, not just people like us. Thank goodness. I'm sure M didn't see this coming, though if she will let H speak to people she must accept the risks.
I'm about to go crush her video at a brisk 1.5.
You are all welcome to sign.
The Duo We Wish We Didn’t Have To See.
https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2021/05/20/the-duo-we-wish-we-didnt-have-to-see/
Thank you and all the other nuttie's. Reading about the vaccines gave me courage to get the shot. I had the choice of Johnson's or moderna. I picked moderna. Figured on flare up just not this hard. Tried to take young guy for walk in hallway but older cat somehow sent little guy back home. He was waiting for me to follow. Good call as I really wasn't able to walk & young cat hasn't begged for walk since. It's funny when your cat won't allow you to take a walk with a look. 😺😂
I was amazed at how many negative videos erupted from the boy wonder's statements of 1st amendment. I believe our blinkers in the US regarding duo are coming off. Stocking up on popcorn and wine. They have become fodder for the lifetime level of status. Ok back to rest. Hope all feel better. Keep lol.
I've never seen the Panorama interview because it wasn't shown in the United States. I only know that one line that's been played out over and over again. There were 3 people in our marriage so it was a bit crowded.
How that interview came to be and the end result is just sad. Had she not done it, she probably would still be alive enjoying her grandchildren. Harry most likely would have never married the person he married and Diana would have eventually married someone whom she loved and trusted.
Her quest for love led her to very dangerous liason's with the Fayed family who could never protect her, she was far too famous. All of it still makes me sad that she died so young and left her children.
Here is how the petition is written (presumably by her).
The purpose is to invite Prince Harry to voluntarily ask The Queen to put his royal style, titles and rank into abeyance, thereby freeing him from the diplomatic, political and constitutional constraints that are an inevitable part of royal rank, and further freeing him from the constitutional conflicts which his beliefs are creating, with all their implications at home and abroad, in particular in the United Kingdom and the United States of America, where his articulated beliefs are in open conflict with the accepted tenets of both the United Kingdom and American Constitutions.
As a purely private citizen, with no royal rank, style or title, he will be able to indulge his personal beliefs, as is the right of all private citizens, without the consequential possibility of damaging the institution of the Monarchy or relations between Friendly Powers, and will be free to articulate beliefs, no matter how objectionable, without the fallout that is otherwise inevitable as long as he possesses royal status.
His invitation to The Sovereign, being of his own accord, will resolve conflicts that would otherwise be inevitable, and will permit him to enjoy the credit of having put both national and international interests above his own, personal ones, in the process gaining him respect that he otherwise will not enjoy.
Wow that lady can write a run-on sentence but that's fine.
In her video she cracked me up, particularly her emphasis on how they should FREE THEMSELVES FROM THE SHACKLES of these royal titles, ha she is funny.
I thought it was funny but now I am banned from FB and can't share Lady C's petition.
WTF!! This is noootttttt free speech.
Any Catholics want to tell me how offensive my comment was?
Somewhat obviously, I don't actually find Catholics weird and was just being silly.
Lady C specifically mentioned wanting Americans to sign the petition. She also suggested that we write to our legislators that a foreign prince is meddling in the politics of the US and that he should be stopped.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if they were kicked out of Britain, Canada and the US? Where would they go? Africa? That's 6's wife's worst nightmare. Australia? Harry would have the same view of living there as he did in moving to California. He thought it was going to be constant parties, booze and surfing to the Beach Boys. I'm sure he thinks of Australian beach towns in the same way. Bondi Beach?
Several bloggers are hearing whispers that The Harkles are not living together, and neither one is living at Mudslide Mansion. Apparently they are fighting a lot lately, and a divorce may be in the works after she "gives birth." Whether this is true or not is unknown, but I think it's a good possibility.
I was raised a Catholic and went to Catholic schools. I'm a non-practicing Catholic now. I don't find your comment rude at all. I won't get into the reasons why because I don't want a backlash. I just wanted you to know that I didn't find it offensive at all.
Been told here that Lady C sez that Harry must give up Princeship.
I'll believe it when I see it.
@hunter & JB, same-I don't find it offensive at all. You were being silly(heaven forfend anyone's silly these days).
@deer & JennS, I hope you both feel better soon! Will keep you in my thoughts.
I'm still saddened by Diana's death, too, but she willingly got into a car with a driver who was so far over the legal limit that his drunkenness would be noticeable. He was so drunk that if he'd been given a breathalyzer test, he would have been facing felony charges. Diana had a responsibility to herself to not get in the car with a drunk driver, and she didn't take that responsibility. It's such a shame, as she had two young boys at home. This should be pointed out to H, too.
From the BBC:
Under French law, blood-alcohol levels of between 50 and 80 milligrammes per 100 millilitres are regarded as a misdemeanour; levels over 80 are a crime. Levels vary throughout Europe. In the UK, there is a single limit of 80 milligrammes per 100 millilitres.
Henri Paul's blood alcohol level was 175.
The Daily Mirror is reporting that the Sussexes are at odds with each other as she wants another luxurious baby shower (because she deserves a treat apparently) and he doesn't because he remembers the media coverage last time. Is it possible H has a teeny tiny bit of common-sense we didn't know about?
Although I do believe that she held within her the seeds of her own destruction: her impetuousness, her love-seeking, her feelings of rejection, and all the rest. So the same circumstances may have turned out differently for another personality type (a Meghan, say). And for crying out loud, NEITHER of the "boys" EVER mentions the seatbelt!
She wants the big, expensive baby shower because she gets expensive gifts which she can turn around and sell for cash. And, of course, the publicity.
I haven't read the Daily Mirror article yet, but I'm glad that they're reporting it.
Could H have a bit of brain power? I'm not sure if it's (very little) intelligence or pure animal instinct. I vote for animal instinct. "Danger! Danger! Expensive baby showers are bad!"
1) Diana should have worn a seat belt, and had a better security coverage, which I SAID many comments back. (And made better judgments.)
2) Still haven't heard that Harry will give up the Princeship, or be stripped of it.
There sure is a lot of false info floating around out there. That's why I said I'm not sure if it's true. But if you hear the same rumor again and again, it needs to be checked out. If I write something as fact, I add in the link to the source. If it's rumor, I will say that in my post.
@lt. Uhura,
Lady C turned the tables on The Harkles by saying in a way that only Lady C could, that if being a part of the royal family is such a burden and causing all sorts of mental and emotional problems, Harry can always give up his titles and live as regular citizen in CA. This is exactly what H has said that he wanted, but he also wanted to keep his titles.
If Harry wants to live in CA and not be a royal, and he hates the BRF and GB, then let him do it. Give up his titles and live as Just Harry. However, his last name will be either Windsor or Mountbatten-Windsor.
Lady C is using some reverse psychology on H.
Lady C's video about H giving up his titles was just released this morning. It will take awhile for The Harkles to come up with a response. I'm sure that dishes are breaking and tea pots are being thrown at Mudslide Manor today.
I wonder if they'll just ignore it.
It's a horrible, tragic death and I hate (or "one" hates) to sound callous, but them's the facts.
Blamer vs. Blamer
The old cawing crone
Won’t release Harry’s bone
Unless the Price is Right
She’s not willing to bend
Her tungsten grip on his end
No Come on Down
without a mega mud fight
"He said the journalist was 'very good at amplifying people's anxieties' and making one think he would 'save you in a difficult and dangerous world'".
Now who else does this sound like? I'll give you a hint. It starts with M. It's right out of her playbook.
Good. BBC deserves a kicking, not before time.
The brief text report I saw mention `Diana's paranoia' that is interesting - referring back to what we were saying about heritability? Will it have any effect on #6's perception of things?
I'll check it out properly now.
Btw, I was reporting what I believe Lady C said re HRH, not my opinion on whether he could lose the `prince bit' or not.
I've heard of women having second and third baby showers, but they are usually frowned upon as they rightfully make the mother-to-be appear to be greedy.
It's especially greedy if your first baby shower was $500,000 and you flew home on Clooney's jet. It's also especially greedy when you're living in a mansion and telling the world how rich you are.
William’s statement was incredible. There was much strength, and contained anger, within it. I think it also contained a warning to H.
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@hunter,
Lots of banning is going on. Other than that, it’s always handy to remember a rule of thumb, used in business at least, on making a “group” comment like the one you made on FB: try substituting other “group entity” terms before deciding if it is appropriate to post your thought.
“Catholics are so weird”
Now instead of Catholics, substitute: Muslims, Jews, people of color, American Indians, Japanese women, Kenyans, Dutch teens, poor people, the hearing impaired, people with cancer, women in their 30s, nurses, single women, dog owners, waitresses, etc.
If you think you would have no problem posting any of those revised group comments on FB tonight, and would be happy to be identified with the thought and the “group” comment phrasing would be inoffensive, then proceed in awareness that people may still respond to you.
I read yesterday that boy William warned his mother about Bashir at the time, as he thought him 'a creep'. Just as he warned his brother about M, while the Queen and Prince Charles reportedly had less acute perceptions. I'm so used to despairing about our politicians, our Archbishop of Canterbury and assorted incompetents failing upwards that it feels odd to know there is someone to look forward to and be grateful for.
Of course the Queen is still here, but I've never known a time when she wasn't. I was born the same year she had her last baby! Some Nutties may have seen that old footage of the Queen with little Prince Edward, getting sweets/candy in a little shop near Balmoral. I seem to remember the Queen paying for them, which would be odd. Paying for something with coins showing your own head! They're not supposed to carry cash, but William was known to be generous buying his round and more at university.
I like royal trivia. Last week I read that the Queen has a bath every morning that is always the same temperature (checked with a wood-encased thermometer) and only seven inches deep. Always exactly seven inches. Reminded me of when I took a behind-the-scenes tour of Chatsworth years ago, when the Duchess of Devonshire was Deborah of the famous Mitford sisters. We were told, in a respectful whisper, that all the coal for her fire had to be the same size and shape.
If I was living a life of privilege, I'd want lots of variety and I'd be gloriously slapdash in private. Not in public of course, when I'd certainly manage to brush my hair, dress properly and wear clean shoes.
I really think William’s statement says a lot of the level of feeling within the RF about the Dyson conclusion on what the BBC and Bashir did. It also shows us, in my opinion, the kind of leader a WIlliam is and will be — that he seized the right to make a statement and did it so well.
Additionally, if I were 6 (Harry), I would be quaking in my shabby shoes, because this is King WIlliam now — strong, determined, focused and unleashed and the genie isn’t going back in the bottle. His eyes said it all. In addition to the BBC, he has just put the Harkles and Oprah on notice. They should be very, very worried tonight or very very busy in the editing suite tomorrow.
Well said!
Even the way this was presented in the news bulletins backed this up. H's response was basically a P.S. And after all, H barely remembers his mother he says. William could speak of his mother's state of mind at that time with complete recall and natural authority. And he only speaks of that time when it is of great importance. Historic importance actually. This is a major turning-point in the history of the BBC and not unimportant in the history of the modern BRF. Otherwise Prince William would be keeping his personal thoughts and feelings private. As the Queen does. Such a relief. To get away from relentless oversharing.
(And those arms-mmmmhmm!)
Jay Z, Natalie Portman, and the former CEO of Starbucks also invested in it. I'm guessing that #6 and wife didn't have enough money to join the big leagues.
This week is not going well for #6 and wife.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9600117/Oat-milk-maker-Oatly-raise-1-4b-IPO.html
I have to stop typing because I’m missing so much.
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Yes, AnT, William is who and what we need right now. As someone said, thank God he was born first. He's just what we need.
We've had 4 Williams so far: the Conquerer aka Bastard; Rufus; King Billy; and the Sailor King aka Sailor Bill.
Many other monarchs had soubriquets as well:
https://www.tonythistlewood.com/Nicknames_of_Kings_of_England.html
What might our present William be? William the Sound of Mind and Heart?
He wanted out the minute his mother died and he had to disassociate (not sure he used that word) when he had to console the public right after his mother died. He really started questioning if he should leave the firm in his 20s. The family kept telling him to just do his thing and his life would be easier.
I’m leaving a lot out.
Thanks for the info. So H now says he sought counseling 4 years ago and in 2017 he said it was 4 years ago too? Huh? https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/17/europe/uk-prince-harry-diana-death/index.html
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@JennS asked
"Is Harry supposed to make an appearance with Gayle tomorrow on Good Morning America?"
No. Gayle is CBS. GMA is ABC I'm pretty sure. But yes, it's tomorrow.
`Harry: Ripple effect of unethical practices took her life'
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Have just seen the replay of William - moving, to the point, profoundly sad.
All those responsible at the BBC should fall on their swords, metaphorically at least as they are not ancient Romans who, in a similar situation, most certainly would have done so for dishonouring their country, its rulers and its people.
the telegraph has a story on the Apple TV show
this is all i can see due to locked screen
The Duke of Sussex has accused the Royal family of "total neglect" and of "bullying him into silence" as he said the Prince of Wales had told him that as he had suffered, his sons would suffer too....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/05/21/prince-harry-filmed-tapping-way-emotional-safety-part-treatment/
I can already tell I’m going to have to rewatch this.
It was o.k. You know how first episodes are. Harry is very clearly the draw. I’m not sure if I’m watching the next episode tonight.
Sorry, just a short OT. DH keeps saying, “but he is a prince...”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9602999/Harry-says-family-tried-STOP-Meghan-leaving-going-end-life.html
snip:"He said the way Meghan was being treated, while facing racist remarks from the press, reminded him of his own mother's final days.
'History was repeating itself,' he said in an interview with Oprah. 'My mother was chased to her death while she was in a relationship with someone who wasn’t white. And now look what’s happened.
'It’s incredibly triggering to potentially lose another woman in my life. Like, the list is growing. And it all comes back to the same people, the same business model, the same industry,' he said."
Does Harry live in a world where he thinks absolutely nothing bad happens in life?!
Oprah calling Prince Harry, ‘Harry’ is highly disrespectful and inaccurate. She should not be contributing to his delusion and mental illness Until he renounces his prince status and succession and dukedom he cannot deny those things.
Also, it looks like their titles will go one way or another. Maybe they know this.
Oh, they have mentioned several times “it’s not what”s wrong with you, it’s about what happened to you.”
I am waiting for my daughter to get home, so I went ahead with episode 2 and this is one of the people who received a car from Oprah and it’s her story of how she unraveled. It was deep: abuse, trauma, etc.
Now Dr. Bruce Perry (senior fellow, child trauma academy) and he is actually interesting and he is discussing how a traumatic memory is made with a sight and a sound fusing together (makes a physical connection), but the lower brain can’t tell time. So people who have developmental trauma when they are younger have all these little land mines in lower parts of their brains, Any reminders of the event triggers them and it’s hard to get around and treatment isn’t linear... two steps forward, one step back etc.
(I typed that out because I assume Harry is going to tie into it)
Therapeutic changes aren’t about therapy. It’s about relationships. It’s about feeling like you belong and are connected.
Now we are on Zak.
Back to Oprah and Harry with Harry saying everyone has some sort of pain. Oprah asking if there was an incident where Harry thought he needed help. Several people told him he needed help, he rejected it. Late 20s was very chaotic, led to burn out. All suppressed emotional came out because whenever they needed someone to go somewhere, they (the firm) were like “send Harry.”
He knew he needed therapy when he thought he would lose Meghan over it, the woman he wanted to spend the rest of his life with. She was shocked to see backstage of the institution. they had a fight and her reaction was to say she thought he needed to see someone.
In that argument, he reverted back to 12 year old Harry, and the therapist noted it and he became embarrassed and felt she was calling him a child, the T explained she was empathizing with him and that he wasn’t allowed to talk about it or process it and now it was coming out in different ways currently as projection.
He became aware he was living in a bubble. Harry’s girl straight out of Compton, exotic dna, snapping of the bulbs, paps following them took him right back to his mother, but now add social media, showing social media comments.
Total silence and neglect (from the firm), they tried everything to make it work. Gave it 4 years. Did everything they possibly could to stay there. m was struggling,
Blue sequin dress, 6 months pregnant, she shared earlier that evening the suicidal thoughts and her clarity of thought in how she was going to end her life, she was sober and sane and not self medicating, thoughts woke her up in the quiet of night. What stopped her was how it would be on Harry after his mom, losing another woman in his life, with a baby inside of her, “our baby”...
Harry is ashamed with how he dealt with it. They had a quick cuddle and they had to do the charity event and pretend everything was ok. Meghan cries when the lights go down, Harry feels sorry for her but he is also mad at himself and how they are stuck in this position of having to live like this. (Video shows of the event, lights dim and Harry looks helpless with his palms up and pained facial expression as he is narrating this)
He knew he wasn’t going to get from his family what he needed, and then he had a son. Every time he looks in his son’s eyes, he wondered if his wife was going to end up like his mother and he would Have to raise Archie by himself.
Ok. iPad about to die. Will publish this. Probably going to bed now. Episode has 24 more minutes.
Yeah, the whole thing is uncomfortable to watch (I mean all the stories) and sure, depressing, (though I can relate to some of their stories).