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Open Post: Three Years Going On Four of the Sussexes

Instead of the traditional leather gifts on the Sussexes' 3rd Anniversary, we got an announcement for plans of an Indian Community Relief Center after hearing Princess Beatrice's baby announcement.

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Grisham said…
Ava, sure, what I mean is (in response to Ant’s idea that that is dark things with the harkles, including the idea of backers I guess to presumably bring down the monarchy):

If the monarchy has dirt on hams and it’s significant enough to take their titles, banish them, expose the grift and the backers and then idk put out a statement that says what happened and this is what they have done and this is why they are no longer affiliated with the monarchy, then what are they waiting for to do that?

Why drag this out in some 3+ years long soap opera with Mi6 investigations and shady characters hiding in the background? Just have HM put out a statement, pull the titles, banish them from the kingdom, make it known they are on their own and not even welcome back in England. 🤷🏼‍♀️

The thing I think is: HM isn’t really bothered much about Harry not wanting to be in the firm. I think she is likely sad he isn’t in England any more and so she can’t see him, but she has been through her uncle’s abdication and Margaret’s issues and decisions and I think she is of the generation that blood is thicker than water. I think she understands not everyone fits into the mold of the institution of monarchy, and she lived her father not wanting to be king, but choosing duty over everything and then the queen mum asserting that is why he died young, etc.

She probably isn’t thrilled about his public discussions, but I did watch all 5 episodes (oof, episode 4 gets dark— this series is definitely not for binging) and to be honest, I don’t think Harry said anything ridiculous about his family. He certainly didn’t say anything his mother and father didn’t already say publicly- maybe the only thing is that Charles said they have to deal with the media because that is how it is and he had to deal with it and it’s always been there. (Paraphrasing).

I do think Harry might be a bit pie in the sky about saying (or implying) the monarchy is too rigid and refuses to change and then expects to be able to say all of this and have them change because that is what he wants.

I worry about Catherine as I worry about Charlene (not to that extent though). To me, Catherine is way too thin and having had eating disorders in my past, I get concerned when she wears the high neck, long sleeve, lots of fabric dresses because that is from the anorexic playbook— so you don’t look as painfully thin as you are. I also realize we don’t have the right to comment on other people’s bodies, so I won’t dwell on this. Only that I love her and I’ve been concerned for a while...


I think the queen and Charles will give Harry space but will eventually (I’m speaking more of Charles here) hope to have and continue a relationship with Harry and I think they will always keep the door open for him and his family. I also think the only way they will take his titles will be if Harry really makes a stand and does something like apply for US Citizenship.

I don’t think HAMS will get divorced anytime soon, if ever. (For better or worse, I believe they are drawn to each other in a way that is intense)

As I mentioned before, Harry in this series comes across as highly emotionally intelligent, has full agency over himself and his decisions, and really wants to use his position to give back and do good in the world.

I’m not saying he isn’t doing things like using his titles for leverage, and I also wonder if he is holding back on things to get the firm to back off. I don’t think he is stupid. He may not be book smart, school smart, but I do think he knows exactly what he is doing here.

I won’t get into her, as that is a whole though process I don’t have time for today.

Grisham said…
caniche, I think you are right in that Charles did his interview first? I can’t remember.
SwampWoman said…
@tatty, at 95, I don't believe that the Queen has a long game left either, although Charles may have more time.

I *think* that the BRF's position is stronger as the Dastardly Duo expose themselves for being the venal grasping people that they are. The couple's approval rating has plummeted since they left the 'racist' UK a year and a half ago, and they continue to dig that hole deeper. Had it even been suggested that the titles be removed, there may have been an uproar. Now there is an uproar of people DEMANDING that they be removed.

Personally, I *think* that they want Harry to run away and go into treatment and are giving him time to come to his senses, but I don't think that that will happen.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Rebecca said...
@Ant

our ice cold feminist Sputnik soldier Megs and “never happier” gray shirt Harry 😅

Something dark and slimy that the Harkles don’t like us to know about is wiggling out there in the dark bushes and coming toward us.
______

It is very dark, and very slimy.

It is the slimyness of it that makes me so sick.

Anonymous said…
@Tatty

OT: can we talk for a minute about Princess Charlene of Monaco? I am worried about her.

I noticed the bit in the DM yesterday saying that she’s in South Africa and will miss the Monaco Grand Prix because she has an ENT infection and can’t fly. The I saw the photo of her with her even more radical buzz cut and I wondered if she hadn’t escaped from her gilded cage, and is refusing to go back inside.
Grisham said…
Oh and I didn’t discuss William either, who is probably incandescent with rage. At some point, maybe William needs more therapy too because he can’t control his brother and maybe he needs to stop being angry that Harry has mental illness, is a loose cannon or whatever.

William needs to stop being incandescent and more accepting that this is what has happened and it’s another tragedy, bump in his road, family drama, whatever you want to call it and detach more from it. HM didn’t go to her function yesterday with clenched jaw and tight fists. She looked the same as always. Which one of them is right? I really don’t know.

Maybe William hates Meghan. Well guess what? They have 2 kids now and she is the mother of his nephew and niece so he needs to make peace with that also.


At the end of the day, they are a real family with the same issues we all have. I can’t imagine playing mine out with the tabloids guessing about what I think and the world’s public having an opinion.

That is why I’ve been pretty quiet lately, I’m starting to feel gross about being so invested in them all. I’m getting uncomfortable discussing it.

If I disappear from here, it’s because I got tired of this family and decided to put my energy and effort into my own real life.

Peace to all.
Anonymous said…
@Caniche
Amidst all the to-do with Diana and the Bachir interview, has anybody ever considered that if Charles hadn't blathered to Dimbleby about his infidelity Diana might probably not gone ahead with said interview?

Absolutely. And I wonder if William and H didn’t resent him for him for that.






Grisham said…
Rebecca, yes, Charlene’s buzz cut is basically half her head now. What does that say? I feel certain it’s a message of some kind. I also wonder if she is out, and did she leave the kids for him to have full custody, or will he share custody with him? He seems to be a ogre
Anonymous said…
@Lt N U
@AnT

Something dark and slimy that the Harkles don’t like us to know about is wiggling out there in the dark bushes and coming toward us.
______

It is very dark, and very slimy.

It is the slimyness of it that makes me so sick

Agreed. The emoji I used was meant to convey that the imagery terrified me.
Grisham said…
Swampwoman, yes I agree.

As for approval rating, it seems clear to me that they have given up on England and instead are going for world wide approval.
SwampWoman said…
@tatty, sorry, I hadn't updated the page. If I had, I would have read that you addressed the very points that I made, and much more competently!
SwampWoman said…
@tatty, I'm not sure if their seeking world-wide approval is going to fly. While casting off one's family and throwing the eldest members under the bus may be met with approval by the celebrity bobbleheads, the rest of the world has more respect for family.
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Este said…
The Velociraptor blind was very revealing on the vicious long term strategy of the wife, whose planning to win with or without staying married to Harry. I think there are strong parallels here to the Mike Tyson/Robin Givens marriage and infamous interview. I was never a fan of Tyson's or of boxing but I saw that interview and could see how badly he was being played by Robin. She was getting him to admit to abuse so she could use it against him and it was clear to me she was using him every step of the way. Meghan is Robin Givens on steroids. But, in the fullness of time, Mike Tyson recovered his image and Robin Givens has faded into obscurity. Beyond the money she won, she gained little else. And I see the same fate here. I actually feel much better about the chances of the Firm winning and not just surviving this. Mudslinging makes the mudslingers look bad and the Firm is getting daily doses of sympathy with each nauseating interview. How I see this playing out: Meghan and Harry will divorce and it'll play in the tabloids like Johnny Depp and Amber Heard with both sides doing awful things and both emerging from it looking bad. Depp might come back due to his acting legacy. Heard was never A list and will never be A list. The Firm will be vindicated and guilty of substantially nothing more than bailing out troubled Harry. William will emerge, is emerging, as the strong thoughtful one who will be king, who was tested by his brother gone off the rails, and who emerged from it stronger than ever.
AnT said…
Ah Charlene. Sometimes I think Megs & Markus modeled her whole game plan shtick after the Poor Lemonsucker of Monaco....but Albert is dealing with the scam that hit him.

Here is the alleged back story on Charlene I heard from people (film, art, Monaco family) at various times.

This is all allegedly but: Charlene the plucky SA swimmer is from a shady family (IT? okay) about which there have been questions. Before she landed Albert, she was allegedly known around the yachts, around Clooney and similar, and near sets. The supposition was that she was just one more retired sports girl trying to make rent, party, and find a husband. After meeting Albert at the swimming event, she packed and moved to Monaco and from her rental there sent letter after letter to him imploring him to see her. She wept and waited. No one knew how the simpleminded swimmer afforded rent.

Eventually he responded and began to pay for her flat, etc. She did NOT want to make friends. She refused French lessons. She sulked and told Albert they would be happier in New York; he could escape Monaco with her. He liked Monaco though; Char was that dumb. She clung to him, complained when he was not around that the courtiers were out to get her. She asked him talk about business and would listen for hours. The staff felt it odd as she was otherwise listless, dumb. She would stay locked in her suite on her phone, or disappear into the city, then return in angry tears and remain locked away ffor days. He didn’t care, as he had other girlfriends. She complained bitterly she needed her freedom. People wondered why she just didn’t leave. He pitied her, was busy elsewhere, let her stay.

At some point (stories vary here) he proposed. Or: she begged he give her money and she would set them up in NYC or LA. She said she wanted to model. He then proposed. She said no, she needed LA or NYC, freedom, money, a huge crazy amount. He laughed and proposed again. She said no, she wanted USA, he could be a producer! She would rage and lock herself up. Her brothers came to see her. Loud arguments. She accepted the proposal grimly, weeping....we saw the rest.

Rumor has it either her shady brothers/father or someone she met at the yachts hired her to infiltrate and get Monaco business pillow talk from Albert for money or to pay off an ugly mob debt her father had. But she was an awful spy, and was ordered to marry, to keep trying.

She was caught trying to flee “with something” she thought useful to buy freedom before the wedding. Albert found everything out and married her anyway, for the public display, kids, knowing she could be controlled. And she didn’t care if he had girlfriends. He knows the mob, too, so she is trapped like a moth.

Albert won,goes about life as usual in his cheery piggy way. Her misery is that of a dimwit who got to the wrong shopping mall. She has been allowed a boyfriend or two and clothes and money—- as long as she shows up for events. Her children have other carers, plus Albert. She has to see a psychiatrist so the family can say, we tried. Her haircut, no one cares, it shows they let her have artistic freedom. Allegedly.

In short...a royal family who found a way to contain and defang their sulky beast. But, she isn’t the evil plotter Megs is.
Grisham said…
Este, Mike Tyson bit off a piece Evander Holyfield’s EAR.

His reputation isn’t rehabilitated.
Este said…
Also, we know now more about Harry and how troubled and angry he actually is. I'm sure Meghan is a pill too based on the early accusations of her awful treatment of staff and family. How could Harry stay with such a woman, so volatile and mean? Because he has that in him as well. I don't see him simply as getting played by Meghan, tho he is getting played by her, and he's clearly not that bright. But they are both reactive types and you can bet they have screaming rows and a whole host of dysfunctions in their marriage. That's why they will divorce. At some point it'll become intolerable and he'll slink back home. Meghan will mature into 21st century Cruella da ville and be duly hated for her mean manipulations and heartless treatment of her family and his family. She's only able to capitalize on the woke movement which people are already sick of. Once that passes, so will any sympathy for her.

The blind talks about how Meghan is playing the long game but the Firm invented it and they will ultimately be the beneficiaries of this riot. They survived Diana and they will more than survive Meghan and Harry. They are winning and this will actually make them more relevant and sympathetic in the long run. They will be the symbol of the Family and how important it is.
Este said…
Hi Tatty, Again, I'm not a fan of Tyson and yes I do recall that indeed but he did indeed come back from that and the Desiree Washington hotel rape thing enough to be employed on sports channel as commentator and he is recovered as a "come back" "redemption" type figure for many people. He's been interview sympathetically by Joe Rogan and others and it sounds like he's changed alot for the better. I can't recite details. I'm not a fan. I just see parallels here. That's all.
hunter said…
Wow AnT, fantastic backstory on Charlene, thanks for all that.
AnT said…
@Este,
Fascinating parallel with Tyson and Givens. Good call.

@JennS said,
“...it’s especially amazing that Harry could have fallen for this idea!”

*waits*

*waits*

*waits*

🤔😉
jessica said…
I just can’t get over their ages in this drama. They are near 40. It’s unacceptable behavior they are displaying.

Further, they cannot read the room. People are out and about after devastating losses and illness and issues related to Covid. A pandemic. No one is in the mood to watch rich people sob over decades-old grievances.

What else are they going to do to stir up drama? I saw Hillary Duff on the cover of People Mag this week ‘From child actor to mom of 3!’ Posed with her baby. I’m guessing we will see Meghan doing this ‘look what we’ve overcome’.

The first thing I thought was ‘wow can’t believe Harry is admitting this in public’ due to his supposed children and a custody case. According to BG, that’s not wrong. He’s such an idiot. I wonder if divorce is on the cards in the next 2 years? More drama for Meghan, for sure.
AnT said…
@hunter,

Sure. My understanding is it’s commonly talked about in Certain circles in France and Italy (a friend’s husband in Rome comes from an old established business family, and she works in film and their stories dovetail with these alleged rumors too, so.....who knows). I remember years ago finding some of it online too, early news reports. No longer, of course,
SwampWoman said…
Two of the grandsons really aggravated their parents when they *said* they were going to the men's room but they had really spotted Mike Tyson and went to talk to him and get an autograph. He didn't tell them to go away, but talked with them indulgently and granted the autographs.

Daughter was appalled and would have apologized, but she thought that he had probably had enough of her family for the evening (grin).

Since Mike Tyson didn't bite off the grandsons' ears tempting though it may have been, I'm inclined to think of him as a nice guy.
Ava C said…
@Tatty - thanks so much for your explanation. Like you, if I disappear suddenly (again) it's because it's taking over my life too much. I'm starting work tomorrow after months of unemployment but it's only until the end of July. I want to get my life and routines back on track. But I'll still check in when something happens. Probably at least once a week. I need to set aside maybe 10 minutes a day to check the headlines, and no more than once every 24 hrs. I admire all of you who keep going no matter what. This blog wouldn't exist without you.

@Caniche - excellent point about Prince Charles' Dimbleby interview. It did come before the Panorama interview and Diana was desperate for revenge of some kind. All books I've read about her agree on that. In fact my neuroscientist friend who has no idea I follow the Sussex saga or indeed read any tabloids wrote to me out of the blue this morning, about how cross he was that Prince Charles' role leading up to Panorama is suddenly being overlooked. When I read that Prince Charles is angry about the BBC still running Diana Panorama clips I thought "I bet he is". I really like Camilla and I think he had a tough first marriage, but don't try to rewrite every chapter from the 1990s. We still remember a lot from that time. Those of us who are old enough or who take an interest. No amount of expensive, slow and subtle PR will change that.
SwampWoman said…
AnT, that was certainly a fascinating insight into the relationships of the Rich and Powerful!

I would think, as the progeny of that marriage is going to be his heir, that Albert of Monaco would be concerned about the lack of IQ in the mother of his children. IQ tends to be heritable.

So many mysteries. I do not know why that woman would think that cuddling rhinos "comforts" them; it STRESSES them. Wild animals do not like cuddles, Princess Charlene. Please do not attempt to cuddle a lion, crocodile, wild elephant, cobra...

*sigh* That haircut went out of style among straight women a few years ago. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
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Acquitaine said…
@AvaC: re: Charles and the Dimbleby....

His interview was not as incendiary as hers was.

99% of it was about Charles and his work.

They spent about 5-10mins discussing his marriage and Charles refuses to say anything bad about Diana OR Camilla.

His so-called admission of mistress-ing Camilla was implied rather than outright admission. He said she was his friend just as other people are his friends and make a huge difference to a rather intolerable life, but because he mentioned her by name, the media sensationalised that moment as some OTT admission of Camilla as his mistress.

His response above was to a pointed question regarding gossip that he'd been unfaithful throughout his marriage and had never been faithful.

He does waffle on before he answers the question and says so much of what is gossip is untrue though he does admit that the marriage had broke down irretrievably, but that they both(Charles and Diana) had tried to make it work. The moment he connects his Camilla friendship to the irretrievably broken marriage is where the implied mistress-ing occurs.

Diana, with the help of Bashir, trashed him and his family in response.

Her own admissions of adultery were as luridly presented by her as the best Barbara Cartland style purple prose.

Anyhue, here is the clip of Charles admitting to Camilla and talking about his marriage

Start at 4.30
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EHzHMhtZ7h4

Ps: the black haired chap in the earlier part of the clip who is seen comforting little Harry is the former MP Rory Stewart. He was the kids' tutor / manny / companion in those days.

Acquitaine said…
@CookieShark said...
"I was reading Us Weekly last night and saw a page about a socialite. The page pictured the clothes she wears, her hair products, and how she styles herself. It was filled with websites to find the products and how much they cost.

I am convinced this is what she wanted, cheap influencer status, pages in magazines and her fashion website. As his wife she was finally famous enough to get these kinds of features, but the RF stopped it. Remember how the photo of her and Rosamund Pike at the fashion awards was quickly taken down? And how the Palace publicly chastised Jennifer Meyer's business when they featured her?

Never did I see pictures of her hounded like Diana or Kate. I think that was the problem. There just wasn't the interest level she was sure she deserved."

Exactly.

Her part of her fury and resentment against the Palace lies in the fact that they shut down these avenues for her.

She wanted to be an IG thot influencer out of the Palace. And with the royal machine behind her it would have been amazing. She wouldn't need to hustle to fill up her IG with content.

The top brands in the world would have come to her

Ps: Do you recall that in the aftermath of Megxit her PR was putting out articles claiming she was in talks with both Dior and Givenchy to become their spokesmodel?

Fun times!!!
Acquitaine said…
@SwampWoman said...

"*sigh* That haircut went out of style among straight women a few years ago. Not that there is anything wrong with that."

In her case a cry for help.

No adult woman with no history of non-conforming lifestyle suddenly changes their hairstyle to one aggressively opposite to their lifestyle because they fancied a change.

Oh Floof said…
Yes, Charles’ Dimbleby interview preceded Diana’s Panorama interview, but the Morton book “Diana Her True Story” preceded that. Diana was the first to air their marriage problems with the public. When people questioned how Morton got such intimate details of Diana’s life, she lied and said she didn’t cooperate with the book, then Diana staged photographs of her hugging the friends who were thought at the time to have contributed to the book, to take the blame off Diana. We didn’t learn any of this until after her death. Morton revealed the truth, and released an updated version of the book “Diana Her True Story In Her Own Words”. I don’t remember an outcry over this. It was the height of Diana-mania and that book was for sale in every bookshop window and sold like hot cakes.
Caniche said…
@AvaC . Yup, as you guessed, I'm of an age where I can remember the shock - and the shame - of both those interviews. If they had never taken place I think H would probably have thought twice about taking that same route. As it is he has a clear conscience.
Acquitaine said…
@tatty said...
"Rebecca, yes, Charlene’s buzz cut is basically half her head now. What does that say? I feel certain it’s a message of some kind. I also wonder if she is out, and did she leave the kids for him to have full custody, or will he share custody with him? He seems to be a ogre"

At the time of their marriage, there was an unsubstantiated, but strongly believed rumour that her contract was to provide an heir and then she was out of the marriage except for public appearances at nationally recognised events.

The kids are 6yrs old now which is one year more than the standard timeframe for these types of contracts - see also Katie Holmes.

She provided 2, an heir and a spare. And is now openly trashing her princess life and staying in SA because wild animals are so much more important than her life in Monaco.
I'm not surprised the royal ladies have lost weight - it can be hard to eat when one is under the sort of stress they are being exposed to.

Whether it can be called `anorexia' is debatable - it has nothing to do with dysmorphia.
AnT said…
Ummmmm.....Top branding talks with Meghan and....who, exactly?

Hair care brands? No.

Cosmetics? Skincare? Um....perhaps with hours of $$$ photoshop. Bronzer, or bronzer-free?

Clothing, because she wears it so well? Err?

Perfume, because she is a romantic sexy dream?

Lingerie? Because that's what 36 year old pregnant newlyweds pose for?

Look at her old "modeling" and "fragrance" ads. Look at her appearance photos. Look at her wedding! Her sexy burger grilling. Her leaning against a stairwell wall photo shoots. Okay her fragrance modeling is in this trailer for "Anti Social"--

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3984484/Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle-caught-gang-crime-new-trailer-Anti-Social-Special-Edition.html

She's hopeless as a model. She "connects" with the camera like a hopped-up stalker, or D-list part-time porn star who does the occasional catalog work.

The interested brands creative teams would have looked that old stuff up, too. Her old Reitman's C-level ads were her zenith.

At best, she could have done wine and liquor ads. Because I think she would have freaked out if they offered to use her head on other models' bodies for other things. Why, here she is selling Miller Lite Beer in an American Tv spot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RO5xhqvxT0

Did the royal family stop her huge brand spokeswoman career, or, did no one call?



CookieShark said…
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AnT said…
Ah, another glimpse into the minds of narcissists:


Meghan Markle's BFF Jessica Mulroney says 'speak out
for what you believe in when you are ready' in a cryptic
Instagram post shortly after Prince Harry accused
Royal Family of 'neglect' when Duchess was suicidal


• Jessica Mulroney, from Toronto, said 'speak out for what you believe in when you are ready'
• Said 'no matter how loud other voices are, yours is only one that should matter'



Link to read more:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9609403/Meghan-Markles-BFF-Jessica-Mulroney-shares-cryptic-Instagram-post.html


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AnT said…
@CookieShark,

I'll always remember the story of her marching up and down with her charity shopping bag (and Wellies!!) in front of the DM office in London trying to get someone to notice and photograph her, the GF of Harry. Finally after after laughing at her antics and desperation for awhile, the DM obliged and sent someone out for a photo.

The lack of pap interest probably makes her throw things, too. Contrast that to the awful images of Catherine and her sister being chased at night trying to get to a car.
@Cookie Shark,


"I'm not in PR, but it appears the problem isn't that she was pursued, but that she WASN'T."

Bingo! You're right on the money with that comment.
***************************
From the DM:

Serena's new "best friend" is Lewis Hamilton. I though #6's wife was her best friend. It also looks like she's had a lot of facial work done. They must all go to the same plastic surgeon, as they all look like Kim K now. All of them seem to get rid of their cheekbones and end up with a flattened-looking face just below their eye and down to their jawline.

The director of H's video with Oprah said that H "volunteered" to undergo counseling online because he thought it might help him with his mental illness and would be helpful to others.

I see it differently. I see the director and the producer(Oprah) thinking they would have TV gold if they can get lamebrained Harry to spill his secrets to the world and to be the therapy puppet. Either one of them could have said that they didn't think it was a good idea to do a mental health session on TV.

Once again, Oprah has shown that she has little regard for Harry as a person. He's just a way of keeping herself in the spotlight, and possibly adding to her fortune. H doesn't even realize that he was so badly used for TV ratings.


AnT said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis said,

"Once again, Oprah has shown that she has little regard for Harry as a person. He's just a way of keeping herself in the spotlight, and possibly adding to her fortune. H doesn't even realize that he was so badly used for TV ratings."


....yes yes yes, and yes again.
JennS said…
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
@Cookie Shark,

I see it differently. I see the director and the producer(Oprah) thinking they would have TV gold if they can get lamebrained Harry to spill his secrets to the world and to be the therapy puppet. Either one of them could have said that they didn't think it was a good idea to do a mental health session on TV.
_____

But what else has H to spill anymore? I think he's shot his wad, not to put too fine a point on it ...

Elsbeth1847 said…
I was thinking about how someone earlier mentioned how 6's wife never accepts no story. There is a lot of what I call New Age thinking which has things like put together a vision board to help you get your dreams (nice but it takes more than just an image to bring a dream to reality). Or you don't accept no for an answer - you go around the road block and keep moving forward (not always realistic that eventually you will get the yes you want to hear). There are always friend of a friend stories about people who had a dream, it was going south and they continued to finance on their credit cards and they were able to hang on long enough to have it all end well (those scripts are nice Hallmark movies but for every one which that was real, there are probably at least 100 or more where the people wound up in bankruptcy).

She grew up in Hollywood where the life is flashy, OTT and a lot of people put out stories of how this or that allowed them to follow their dream to stardom. They make it sound easy. It isn't and there are lots of other people all vying for the same parts. People can help you but only up to a point. After that, it is up to you to be able to play the part.

JennS re: how 6 describes how much the public loved his wife on Oceania tour, just as the public loved his mother and this all lead to jealousy by others within the BRF (duplicating his mother yet again but this time - gosh, it's not he duplicating his father's feelings but they, together are outdoing his mother - his father was an earlier left by the side of the road casualty in the pr wars).

Not shocking. He wants/ed to believe in her, them together and so on. It started there and continues in one form or another since.

To admit to himself/the BRF that everything is not happy in paradise would mean that they were all right about her from the beginning and takes a special kind of inner strength to admit a mistake (especially one so public) that it takes a different kind of special inner strength to keep going forward with it in hopes it isn't that bad. People can be quite good at convincing themselves to continue the path in front of them.

CookieShark - I think you are quite right about how she thought this role would allow her to get the influencer coverage that would shoot her to the top of the heap and stay there like Diana did, it would modernize the BRF by making them more relatable to the public because the public would buy this or that, follow some trend and ultimately people would respect her and her opinion.

Other part I like is that you said she was not hounded like Diana or Catherine. Yeah. I think that is a painful jab in the self image. It is interesting how the paps just happen to appear to take some pictures of her and kid when 6 is not around. What fantastic timing each and every time? snicker snicker. and yet we think: why doesn't he make this connection? It does keep happening so it's not some kind of one off.


I think the more they sling mud (the fam tried to smear 6's wife and so on) the better William looks as he just continues doing his thing as if none of the problems from LA are changing his schedule of events. Moonshot, the jab, the electric car rally = he just looks like he's doing all the things one might think of as a king would be doing to lead the nation. And he's having fun. They regularly release pictures of the kids and the kids look/act like great kids you wouldn't mind living next to. Pictures of William today versus 6 on a tour bus or doing a walk in some cemetery trying to look serious.

William is the future. Harry is the past - like the whole Diana drama but ... even that ended eventually.
DesignDoctor said…
@CookieShark said:
I'm not in PR, but it appears the problem isn't that she was pursued, but that she WASN'T.

Bingo. Her ambition is to be a big celeb. I recall reading she wanted to "break the internet" which is something Kim K aspired to when she was on the cover of some magazine a few years ago. Funny, though, no one seems to be that interested in 6's wife. To be papped she has to call them, which she did all the time in Toronto when she was first seeing 6.
Great comments from everyone. JennS. I love the "Signaling" article. Thank you for sharing.
DesignDoctor said…
@AnT

In the Miller Lite Commercial she is not the least bit realistic. The problem is that she cannot act. She is never "real" or believable.

I think no one called.
AnT said…
@JennS,

Hahahahahha!! I love your "Gollum shimmying out of the Montecitio bushes!" line. Oh, can you just imagine.

So, the next Hot Rob:

"I was taking a run, down the road by their house, and up ahead I saw a thin bald little man with bulging eyes scooting into their property...hissing 'precious'.....as I drew near, Meghan came out and seemed to be selling the little guy a ring off her hand...."
AnT said…
@DesignDoctor,

Agreed -- almost painful how she was so awkward in her role as the bartender, while the guy in the pants was so much better. Her blaring flat mean girl-tinged voice too.....she can only do that one act.
JennS said…
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AnT said…
@Elsbeth 1847....

so agree. Great observations.

The way William carries on and as you say, seems to enjoy it all....and those sweet kids....he does seem to be relegating Harry and his misery to the tired-out past day by day, doesn't he?

Meghan and Harry and Oprah seem utterly determined to convince everyone that life sucks, don't they? And misery is everywhere (festering inside you and me and all of us, too)....we are their consumers and they have to have us feel MORE miserable! and then convince us life is hell, so we will weep and whinge and give money to their anti-misery businesses... so they can keep sipping the good wine in Montecito. It's such a cheap, wretched ploy for our money and attention. But they misreading the room.
Acquitaine said…
@Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
"Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
@Cookie Shark,

I see it differently. I see the director and the producer(Oprah) thinking they would have TV gold if they can get lamebrained Harry to spill his secrets to the world and to be the therapy puppet. Either one of them could have said that they didn't think it was a good idea to do a mental health session on TV.
_____

But what else has H to spill anymore? I think he's shot his wad, not to put too fine a point on it ..."

This is another Oprah porkie because getting her troubled big celeb to be therapised on camera is her schtick.

Dr Phil therapised Fergie on camera for one of the docu-series she did with Oprah.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g-BhmExds4I

And she got Lindsay Lohan to do the same though i don't think the on-screen therapist was Dr Phil, but she was definitely an Oprah appointed life coach of some kind.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3E6-TtPavns
Maneki Neko said…
Slightly OT

Nothing on television tonight but hubby found a programme on Zara and Mike (Tindall). They couldn't be more different than our infamous couple. As hubby said, Mike Tindall has perfectly adjusted to life in the BRF. Even though it's different and easier for him as Zara is not a working royal, he is very much part of the family. No airs and graces, no ideas above his station, no moaning, unlike somebody else we know. And even if he was unhappy with some aspects of life in the BRF - not saying he is - he's kept schtum. As hubby said, it's good manners not to criticise your in-laws. But that's not what the witch is known for. Incidentally, it's also good manners to be polite with staff. So the witch might think she's oh so sophisticated and cool but in reality she's an ill-mannered lout.

Anyway, the programme is very interesting (on 5Star) and shows Zara and Mike in their every day life. Pity you can't get 5Star in SoCal... (Someone should record it and send it to Montecito).
I'm watching a search and rescue in the ocean right now from my patio. There are six rescue vehicles and a drone flying overhead. About 100 people are lined up along the shore, searching, and I'm searching from my deck using binoculars. I can hear a S&R helicopter coming this way. More later.
JennS said…
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hunter said…
@AnT - regarding Charlene, Harry & others...

I think for intelligent, motivated and insightful people like the majority of us here on Nutty's blog, it is difficult to imagine the blank level of raw shallowness or disinterest or general lame-ness some people (many people?) are capable of, so we are taken by surprise when it turns out somebody is mostly a lump.

At least, that's how I feel. I tend to automatically assume everyone is like me and when I find out somebody is just... low level embers, I am generally surprised.
DesignDoctor said…
@AnT and @Tatty

I remember reading a comment from Charlene's father after the wedding that marrying Prince Albert was like "winning the lottery." I think he paid for an apartment in Monaco for her parents, too.

Her haircut is extreme. Maybe a cry for help as @Tatty mentioned?

Char looks happier in the rhino pic than she ever does around Prince Albert.
hunter said…
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Acquitaine said…
@CookieShark said...

"Several people wrote that her baby shower in NYC was not covered until specifics of her trip were leaked, finally creating the crowd at the hotel. But allegedly even the Meghan's Mirror team backed away from covering it and felt weird about knowing all of the details."

This definitely happened.

Royaldish Forum used to have the tweets that Meghan's mirror put out about being fed such intimate minute details of the babyshower as was entire media corps, blogs etc that they thought it compromised security and were unc9nfortable reporting it all.

They mentioned that they received entire itinerary of the party for duration of her stay in NYC as well as individual guests attending, details of caterers, gifting companies and what they were gifting, clothes everyone was wearing, restaurants and entertainments and exact times they would show up and expected to leave etc.

Also, it was Omid who kicked off the media frenzy because he tweeted out that she was in NYC to a specific gossip magazine ( can't remember which one now) and told them exactly when and where to find her - she was subsequently papped exiting Misha's apartment.

Until Omid tweeted, she'd been in NYC for some 3 days with media uninterested.

Once they moved to the hotel, it was quite clear it was an orchestrated media frenzy because that hotel is very popular with Hollywood, but it is very discreet or was. Infact Natalie Portman (i think) came along and the paps ignored her though the DM mentioned her coming through.

If you look at the photos from the shower, despite the media pen, there is no frenzy of paps in the pen. All photos and media are tight shots. The few that are wide shots show an empty sidewalk and disinterested regular people and a few paps gathered in a tight spot within the designated media pen taking her picture.

It wasn't as frenzied as she'd hoped.
JennS said…
@Maneki Neko
Mike is an excellent example of someone fitting into the RF without a problem. He seems like a really nice guy - easy to get along with. I believe Harry introduced him to Zara yet when MM came onto the scene we never saw any interaction between the couples. Hmmmm!
SwampWoman said…
I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I am not jealous of the dummkopf duo in any way. I'm outside on the patio with my bare feet propped up. I'm not in designer anything, just shorts and a T-shirt. Nobody wants to take my picture or bother me while I sit out here with my sweet tea, and I'm good with that. When (if?) my ambition gets high enough, I'll wash today's egg harvest. Sometime later, I'll go to a totally non-trendy small-town Mexican restaurant to celebrate a birthday.

I would not trade my life for theirs. If they hated their life in England so much, why are they trying to create an inferior copycat royal court in California?
@ Lt. Uhura,

Who knows what secrets H knows about the BRF. I think he's still got some ammunition left, and is waiting to use it if things don't go his way, meaning her way.

The problem for them is that they've been caught in so many lies, that most thinking people won't believe them. They've cried wolf too often. Their remaining sugars may fall for this, but nobody else will.

@hunter,

I'm the opposite. I let new people in my life talk and just wait to see if they are honest or deceitful. I'm usually not surprised when they turn out to be scum. Truly honest people are few and far between these days, especially in business. This may sound so hateful, but there have been so many times that people have tried to scam me in business that I'm very watchful and careful about letting new people into my life.

We're living in an era of greed and dishonesty.



Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
@ Lt. Uhura,

Who knows what secrets H knows about the BRF. I think he's still got some ammunition left, and is waiting to use it if things don't go his way, meaning her way.

The problem for them is that they've been caught in so many lies, that most thinking people won't believe them. They've cried wolf too often. Their remaining sugars may fall for this, but nobody else will.
_____

Maybe, yes, friend.

I think yes.
JerseyGirl said…
@CookieShark said...

I'm not in PR, but it appears the problem isn't that she was pursued, but that she WASN'T.

-------------------------------------

Exactly! Especially because she was trying so hard to be Diana 2.0.

It never happened and it never will for her.

I watched a documentary over this weekend that I had saved on my DVR about Diana's life. It was so sad how over the years the chase was really on and relentless.

I understand and know she played to the camera's and often called the media herself so she could be photographed. But she was a real commodity to the media and tabloids and I'm as guilty as anyone else in wanting to see her and read articles about her from papers at the check out line. I regret that and have since the day she died.

As I watched one part of the documentary she was standing outside somewhere and behind her were at least if not more than 100 photographer's standing behind her. That was a normal day for her.

She was literally chased every single time she stepped out in to the public. She deserved more privacy but the public was so caught up in the game that was being played out.

Catherine also faced the same kind of scrutiny, however never to the degree that we wanted Diana pictures. But had Catherine not withdrawn herself from the public it could have become another dangerous game. She saved herself and I'm sure happy and thriving in her life, taking her own pictures of her family for publication. She stopped it in it's tracks with the help of her husband and BP.

MM would have never drawn any attention to herself like that. She was living in Toronto, I'm sure a lovely place, but COLD, COLD, COLD. I'm sure there was interest in her but never at the level of Diana.

There's no gaggle of reporters up in Montecito staking out her house because no one really cares and it's not likely to change. I doubt they really need any security either, but that's a whole other topic.









DesignDoctor said…
One other comment that I would like to make about 6's immaturity is that a professional counselor told me in a casual conversation once that people who are substance abusers without help are emotionally stuck at the same age as the age they first started using substances. Earlier comments said that 6 started using after Diana's death. He was 12, wasn't he? Very young and tender age.
I'm going to have to take a break.

My GP was convinced my funny turns are due to anxiety - I'm not but I'm having to wait ages for a tilt-table test. Had she listened to me in the first place, and referred me then, I'd be a darn sight further in the investigations than I am now. At least my heart's OK.

Although, strangely enough, this business didn't start until just before the Wedding in Windsor.

No need to worry folks.
Elsbeth1847 said…
SwampWoman

...If they hated their life in England so much, why are they trying to create an inferior copycat royal court in California?

Really good question.

I suspect it was part of the half in/half out they wanted on their terms - all the fun of world class costumes, dress up pomp, the rituals which elevate them above the people around them, the associated respect for the top tier people (movers and shakers) without all the visits to a small village and smile at people you are unlikely to ever meet again.



AnT said…
@WBBM,

Oh no --- sorry to hear this. And that you have to wait for your testing. Sending you a hug. Keep us posted.

PS) I doubt your GP fully understands the complete upsetting, frustrating insanity of the Harkles, which is enough to give anyone a turn. Even staring in shock down at your computer screen for a length of time might trigger dizziness at this point. Keep the faith!!
Anonymous said…
Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
I'm watching a search and rescue in the ocean right now from my patio. There are six rescue vehicles and a drone flying overhead.

I’m not sure where exactly you live but I guess it’s too much to hope for that M went paddleboarding and was attacked by a Great White shark.
@WBBM,

I'm so sorry that you have to leave us, but your health comes first. This is the fallout from The Harkles, and I think many people are being affected by their attempting to be psychologists to the world. It's making everybody be on edge and is putting many people into either a manic or depressive state.

Please take care of yourself, and come back when you can. If not, please just pop in and let us know how you're doing. You will be greatly missed! All my best to you!
luxem said…
I had not realized that Oprah released a new book called "What Happened to Me?" about a month ago that appears to cover the same topic (dealing with childhood trauma) as the docuseries. For those that watched the docuseries, is it mentioned or promoted?

Did O offer H the "carrot" of executive producer to make him more agreeable to become a "study subject" in the docuseries highlighting her great discovery of how to deal with childhood trauma?

It seems O spent at least 2 years grooming H to take part this show because he thinks he is "helping others". O and M are both using his pain for their personal gain. It's appalling when you piece it all together.
Anonymous said…
@SwampWoman

I would think, as the progeny of that marriage is going to be his heir, that Albert of Monaco would be concerned about the lack of IQ in the mother of his children.

—It’s a shame that Princess Caroline’s eldest child won’t inherit Albert’s position, IMO.

Wild animals do not like cuddles, Princess Charlene. Please do not attempt to cuddle a lion, crocodile, wild elephant, cobra...

—SW, have you heard of this guy and gator friend? Nuts!:

Meet Wally: My Emotional Support Gator | BEAST BUDDIES. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TDYDNTK_oo
@Rebecca,

I live in Oregon, so no 6's wife here, but your thought is a good one!

It ended up being a drowning, but they haven't found the body yet. All of the rescue crew is gone now, as the ocean here is so cold that total hypothermia would have set in by this time. So, so sad that a fun day at the beach turns into a tragedy.

@Design Doctor,

That's really interesting what your friend told you about drug users being stuck at the age they began using. I think we can definitely see that is happening with H. He's stuck with the mind and emotions of a young teen, and his wife is taking great advantage of that.

@luxem,

I question some of O's childhood drama. I remember when she first talked about it on her show and her family said that some of the things she said were just not true. They weren't as poor as she has made out to be, and there was no abuse. I'm not sure who's being truthful here, but with what we see of Oprah now, we know that she lies to gain sympathy and to make money. So why would we expect her to be truthful then if she isn't truthful now?

I always side-eye her stories now.
Anonymous said…
@Jocelyn’s Bellinis

I have lots of family in Portland. They love going to the beautiful beaches along the Oregon coast.
Very sad about the drowning...
JennS said…
@Wild Boar

What do you mean by 'funny turns' - are you referring to dizziness?
A member of my family found out that the dizziness he was experiencing was due to an inner ear issue. He was told to consume less salt and drink lots of water. Hope you solve your medical mystery quickly and feel better soon.
😊😊😊
@luxem,

I looked it up on Amazon, and O's book is titled "What Happened To You: Conversations In Trauma, Resilience and Healing." It's already marked down.

I hadn't realized that Oprah has written a slew of self help books.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

Very sorry you have to take a break. You said that "Although, strangely enough, this business didn't start until just before the Wedding in Windsor." Could your funny turns be anxiety related due to that farce of a wedding and it's resulting mess? ;-) It can't have helped!

Joking aside, have a rest and take care and come back soon!
Maneki Neko said…
* Its - predictive text...
@Rebecca,

Portland was such a fun city, but the riots have ruined it for now, at least downtown. Hopefully, it will come back to it's crazy fun life. I'm sure it will, in time.

Yes, it's a beautiful part of the world, and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else but the coast. Just a drive down the coast is so gorgeous.
If anyone in that family should be compared to Diana, it would be Catherine. She married the heir whom she dated through her 20s.

An American middle class immigrant on her second (or 3rd) marriage who joined the RF in her mid to late 30s (dependent on the source) has nothing at all in common with Diana. She could somewhat be compared to Fergie, or Sophie and even that is a stretch.

Why does Harry think his family is Diana 2.0? He is not heir and does not and will not receive the same amount of intrusive publicity as William and Kate.

That's where his mental illness starts IMO. He is pretending that a situation that literally does not, will not, and cannot exist, exists.

He married a person who's entire career and life purpose is publicity seeking or PR. That's it.

He comes across as very dumb or he is totally in on this mass media deception (fake news and misinformation he is spreading) for the long game of entertainment money or speaking circuit money.

I can't tell anymore.
Maneki Neko said…
@JennS

Just for you, an article in the DM about Rob Lowe, with a few photos and a video. I think this has been discussed before but I thought you might like the pix! 😉

Rob Lowe reveals that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's interview with Oprah Winfrey did not take place at his house in Montecito

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9610417/Rob-Lowe-reveals-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markles-interview-not-house-Montecito.html
SwampWoman said…
O/T: I called the man that was celebrating the birthday to set a time to meet him and his girlfriend at the restaurant. He then started telling me about how he had had such a debilitating headache that he had had to call in sick to work for a couple of days last week. On the first day, he was burning up with fever, then he had the headache for another day which was so bad that he was nauseated. He was afraid he might vomit but it would have been too painful. After that, he was so tired that he could barely function. His girlfriend told me that she had never seen him sleep for such a long time. He was aggravated at the pollen and sinus headaches/infections.

He said that he was being pressured at work to get the COVID vaccine. He hadn't decided yet whether to get it or not because of unknown future side effects.

I told him "congratulations" because I *think* he may have had or currently has COVID (his symptoms were the same as my oldest granddaughter and son who tested positive), and he may still be shedding the virus. He should probably get tested because he shouldn't get the vaccine too close to being infected. No restaurant for him (or his girlfriend). Maybe after another week.

He was puzzled because he only had a fever for one day. "Some people don't seem to run a fever at all!" I said. "But I have my sense of taste and smell!" "The majority of people do not lose their sense of taste or smell." "But I didn't have shortness of breath!" "Not everybody does." "I just had a headache and fatigue and one day of feeling feverish." "So did my son and granddaughter."

You would think that over a year into the pandemic, people would know what symptoms to watch for but they do not. Our Department of Health doesn't even list overwhelming fatigue as a symptom, but that fatigue that persisted was the biggest complaint of many people that told me about it.
Maneki Neko said…
Sorry to be posting again but I've just seen this in the DM. Although I didn't read the Rob Lowe article, I read this one and thought this deserved a mention.

This is about a decorated soldier, Nathan Hunt, mentioned in Dispatched, who 'was ordered to locate Taliban mines when he served with Harry in a desert reconnaissance unit in 2008. The job left him traumatised and a decade later Mr Hunt found his Royal Engineer son dead with a ligature around his neck aged only 39. Prince Harry wrote a private letter of condolence to the father-of-one's family.

But Mr Hunt, 70, was shocked when his bid to have Nathan's name included on the memorial in Staffordshire was rejected. It makes provision for troops who have taken their own lives to be remembered alongside those fallen in battle when there is proof their service led to their death.'
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This is where H could do some good if he wasn't so absorbed in navel gazing. The soldier's name was rejected by a panel for inclusion on the memorial but perhaps a word from H might have helped. In any case, H could have done a lot in the UK to help ex soldiers suffering from PTSD, if he is so interested and invested in mental health. Then he could have been taken seriously.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9610717/Prince-Harry-praised-desert-comrade-soldiers-father-loses-bid-honour-memorial.html

Elsbeth1847 said…
Was reading old DM articles and came across the one about how 6 claims his family showed neglect about helping 6's wife during her assorted mental health crisis(es)... not that they may or may not have known about them at the time but that is a different question.

This is not the first time I read of how he felt they left him/them out on a limb - actually about several things (FF had a fair amount of ink about this basic claim of non-response to his outrage to something about her) but neglect is an actual legal definition if you are trying to claim injury. It involves children or people who are not able to function as adults/need legal guardians to protect them from .... eh, involving protection from evil persons who wish to take advantage of said situation.

Do you really want to go there, guy? What does this say about your wife?


Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar
Stay strong Hildisvini 🐗

Fellatio Hornblower

It’s time Haz jacked off
His six toed old sloth
Enough of his low blow by blow
He needs intervention
Not an Oprah convention
And the balls to say, Bye Fellatio!

Girl with a Hat said…
@Swamp Woman, I saw my 72 year old neighbour in the street a few weeks ago and was very sad about how he looked so old and tired. I hadn't seen him in over a year.

He said that he was very tired and had very bad body aches. I suggested that he might have covid and that he should get tested. I texted him the covid testing centre coordinates and luckily he took my suggestion, because he tested positive.

He also was very surprised that he didn't have any fever or cough. But, he was pretty early into the infection, the nurse said.

He further followed my instructions to drink lots of tonic water. He already took zinc regularly as well as selenium. His symptoms were gone the next day and never returned.
SwampWoman said…
@Rebecca, yes, there are people that have pet gators (frowned upon by the wildlife folk). I don't know about having an emotional support alligator, though; my emotions don't really need supporting (grin). Nope.

I would probably know people that have alligators as pets but since that would be *illegal* unless they are licensed, of course I do not.

A lot of gators in close vicinity to people get waaaaay too used to them and end up as alligator steaks and a purse or maybe a pair of shoes. While a little 4 or 5 footer is unlikely to do a *lot* of harm (removing some fingers or a nose) eventually he'll be 10 to 14 feet long and weigh somewhere in the vicinity of 1,000 lbs.
Unknown said…
@Wild Boar Battle-Maid
You will be greatly missed. Please take care of yourself. You will always be welcome here. Whether you return, please let us know how you are doing.

@SwampWoman
I wanted to extend my condolences on the passing of your Father-in-Law. I send my best wishes to your family.
Unknown said…
@Lt. Nyota Uhura
I haven't forgotten you wanting the Paparazzi Podcasts timestamps. I lost my sticky note where I jotted it down so I have to look it up again. I'll post it when I got them.
Unknown said…
@AnT
Isn't it so sad to see Rache & H make mental health initiatives their cash cow. It's genuinely depressing. If Oprah and the Sussexes are "success" stories, what chance do the rest of us have without all that money and out-of-reach therapies.

As for Charlene of Monaco, you recounted exactly what I heard from my family in Switzerland. Whatever is going on with her, I hope the kids are okay and things straighten out.
JennS said…
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SwampWoman said…
Thank you so much, Charade, and all others who have extended their sympathies.
SwampWoman said…
Girl with a Hat said...
@Swamp Woman, I saw my 72 year old neighbour in the street a few weeks ago and was very sad about how he looked so old and tired. I hadn't seen him in over a year.

He said that he was very tired and had very bad body aches. I suggested that he might have covid and that he should get tested. I texted him the covid testing centre coordinates and luckily he took my suggestion, because he tested positive.

He also was very surprised that he didn't have any fever or cough. But, he was pretty early into the infection, the nurse said.

He further followed my instructions to drink lots of tonic water. He already took zinc regularly as well as selenium. His symptoms were gone the next day and never returned.


Again with the fatigue! I do wish that symptom was included more often. I am so glad to hear that he didn't have any other problems. (I do think that many people have had it that didn't recognize the symptoms.)
SwampWoman said…
WBB-m, I do hope that you get some relief soon. BFF's husband has benign paroxysmal positional vertigo and it periodically makes him quite miserable.
DesignDoctor said…
@Charade said:

"If Oprah and the Sussexes are "success" stories, what chance do the rest of us have without all that money and out-of-reach therapies."

I posted upthread that I watched Oprah say in an interview Thursday morning on the Today show (USA) that she has never had therapy. I find it very ironic that she is hosting and promoting a show on mental health.What are her qualifications to pontificate about mental health and wellbeing?
xxxxx said…
Nutties-- So many good posts today and yesterday. I have nothing brilliant to say so I will read onward. Oh, I do have something to say. I am looking forward to the new Anne Boleyn series coming soon in the UK. Me being a mere pleb in America will find some way to get it perhaps via torrent.
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Jodie Turner-Smith: ‘Tapping into the turmoil of Anne Boleyn felt so easy’
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Jodie Turner-Smith is a British actor and the star of Channel 5’s forthcoming drama Anne Boleyn, in which she plays the doomed queen. Born in Peterborough, Turner-Smith moved to the US as a child and later worked in finance before she began a career in modelling. She made her acting debut in 2013 in HBO’s supernatural drama True Bloodand co-starred with Daniel Kaluuya in 2019’s Queen & Slim, a road movie about a black couple on the run. She lives in Los Angeles with her husband, actor Joshua Jackson, and their one-year-old daughter.

You’re playing Anne Boleyn as she goes through turmoil and betrayal in the final three months of her life. How did you tap into that mood?Honestly, it felt so easy. I think I was so raw because I’d just had a baby so all those big emotions resonated with me. I could feel how angry and passionate and desperate and heartbroken she was. It was the first job I did after having a baby and I was redefining myself as well as [being] a performer. After you go through something so transformational, you’re a new person.

What felt most new to you?Well, there’s so much figuring-out. Like, how to come to yourself in this new body with this new state of mind. And so feeling all of that and translating it to a character, it just felt really easy.
DesignDoctor said…
@JennS

Agreed. 6's wife is an awful actor. Her affect is all wrong. She is so "flat." There is nothing real there. I would think that the ability to experience real human emotions is a prerequisite for being a believable actor. There is more to acting than having a laser-like fix on the camera!
DesignDoctor said…
@WBBM
Please take care of yourself and I hope you will be feeling well and back on the blog soon.
@WBBM, I hope you feel better soon and can get some rest. You will be missed!
AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,
I think it’s wonderful you were alert and sensitive enough to get your neighbor diagnosed, and helped him with tonic etc....well done.
Unknown said…
Rob clearly reads this blog. No one else has been speculating about where the sit-down was taped.

Hi Rob!
AnT said…
@DesignDoctor,

In 2017, Oprah did a video PEN interview that was shown in association with People magazine. In it, she insisted to the man interviewing her that she got years of “therapy” simply by sitting in her interview chair every day on her show. 🙄

Make if that what you will. I will find the YouTube link later and post it here.

Ava C said…
Dear @WBBM - do take care of yourself. I'll be thinking of you.
JennS said…
Unknown said...
Rob clearly reads this blog. No one else has been speculating about where the sit-down was taped.
Hi Rob!
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Oh what a tease you are, Unknown!
HotRob doesn't know about little old us at Nutty's blog!

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@AnT
Did you see this mysterious little message from an unknown?
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Girl with a Hat said…
@AnT,

thank you. It makes me happy that my neighbour is well again. He is such a great guy and still working, at 72!
Unknown said…
@DesignDoctor
Yes, thanks for bringing that up. I should have said ambassadors and what awful ones they are. If that's the best H can shape up to me, what a travesty. As for Oprah, her stance is like a lot of tech bros. They will not use their products and forbid their own kids from using them, but they sure will make sheeple out of the rest of us to help them garner billions.
Unknown said…
Hi Unknown,

Please get a name as soon as you can. Unknown comments generally will be deleted. Here are two sets of instructions to help you get a name. Hope this helps.

Instructions:
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- Next click the dropdown menu to the left of the "B" icon and click on "Settings" and then click "User Profile"
- Scroll down to "Display Name" and type your name
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Girl with a Hat said…
@Wild Boar,

Look into histamine intolerance. I used to get vertigo when I ate a lot of seafood. It turns out that seafood is high in histamine and histamine can cause vertigo, amongst other things. I never made the connection until much later.

Interestingly, my vertigo would occur when I was turning in my sleep, and my GP was convinced it was that positional vertigo but it turned out not to be since I haven't had an episode since. There is also a type of beta blocker that one can use - it's called Serc. It blocks histamine in the middle ear.
@Swampwoman,

The fatigue is horrible, and mine has lasted for a long time. I'm still exhausted, and either can't sleep at all or nearly pass out like I've been roofied. I only had a high fever for a couple of days (103 degrees+)and then it settled at about 101 for a few days.

It was the body pain that was the worst for me. It felt like my knees and shins were being put through a grinder, and more muscle pain throughout the rest of my body. I could only walk three extremely painful steps, and I would have to slide along the wall. After resting, I'd take three more steps. Repeat and repeat until I could get to the bathroom. Then repeat until I could get back to my bed. The resting in between didn't lessen the pain, but it all of the pain I could take, then I'd get my nerve up and move a few more steps.

Even lying in bed, not moving, didn't lessen the pain. It was true torture. I used some pain meds that were left over from the dentist, and they didn't help at all. I was truly prepared to die in my sleep, and thought that it would be a blessing to get away from the pain.

I feel like I aged 20 years in about three weeks, and I don't know if I will ever be the same. I'm still limp rag exhausted.
Unknown said…
Yes @Girl with a Hat,

I am so happy to hear that you were able to help your neighbor from Covid-19. I know too many to have passed away from it. Thank you for the good you brought to the situation.
Oh, and I didn't lose my taste or smell but everything tastes horrible. It still does, and I have to force myself to eat. My digestion is also messed up, and I'm basically stuck eating plain baked chicken and mashed potatoes. I'm still exhausted so I'm eating Stouffers because I'm not for cooking.
AnT said…
@charade,

I agree with you so much— it makes me angry and sad that these two, with Oprah, decided to use the serious issue of mental health as just another thing to cash in on or pay with. I know narcissists have no real compassion or compunction, but my goodness. Did they decide it was the one thing they could “act out” for sympathy? And the “here, Harry, do therapy tricks on camera —.” Leaving their non rich viewers staring at the televised magical therapies taking place in mansions with orange groves, and yet these fortunate people are still unhappy. Another costly designer toy for the pampered few? A new low.

Love that your family in Switzerland heard the Charlene tales too. Those stories may be scrubbed from the internet, but people know. Maybe if she stays focused on all the sports related concerns she has, she will be happier eventually and less peevish and dim.


AnT said…
@JennS,

Lol, awwwww maybe “unknown” is Megs, trying hard to make a friend! “Hi Rob! Call me! My hubby’s usually sleeping at his hotel, and I sent the child out to be dry cleaned! I’m freeeeee all week! I like jewelry, avocados, and short walks on red carpets.”
AnT said…
@Jocelyn’s Bellinis,

Ugh that’s awful, I am so sorry to hear what you’ve been thru with Covid. It sounds like you are experiencing long Covid now? It’s bizarre how it affects everyone so differently. I had it in late November 2019 after taking some flights in the US. Dry terrible coughing, loss of taste, plus a low fever for a day, but otherwise ok. I isolated for 2 weeks — as I’d heard of Covid from friends in Rome so I knew what it might be, but since it was so early, flu swab tests were all they had in the US, and the tests showed nothing, three times. My puzzled doctor finally gave me doxycycline and I was well from every symptom in 24-36 hours — my friend in Rome told me her doctor used that drug to treat Covid patients there. Still had the severe foggy-headed for about three months, and a need to collapse into an hour’s nap daily. But nothing like what you are dealing with — that is so awful. I hope you will feel better soon. As @Girl with a Hat said, tonic water helps. Let us know how you are doing,
Dear Nutties,

I couldn't resist a quick read! Thank you for your kindness, I'm very touched.

I believe it's something autonomic - argument between gut & brain? Vagus nerve playing silly blighters? Muddled signals in the brainstem? I dunno. POTS is not suspected. I'll spare you the details.

It's been going on for longer than the virus has been around - that's some consolation.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger charade said...
@Lt. Nyota Uhura
I haven't forgotten you wanting the Paparazzi Podcasts timestamps. I lost my sticky note where I jotted it down so I have to look it up again. I'll post it when I got them.
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Thank you @ charade
Anonymous said…
@WBBM

I’d also like to wish you well. I’ll miss reading your thoughtful posts but will look forward to your eventual return!
Miggy said…
Apologies if this has already been posted. I've not been around for the last few days as have found the latest Harkle nonsense far too depressing and needed a break.

‘Will Change A Lot Of Minds On Meghan’: Backlash Hits Markle After Harry Reveals Comments She Made About Suicide And His Mother.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/will-change-a-lot-of-minds-on-meghan-backlash-hits-markle-after-harry-reveals-comments-she-made-about-suicide-and-his-mother

Good comments too.

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Sending condolences to @Swampwoman So very sorry to hear about your father-in-law.


@WBBM, I hope you finally get to the bottom of whatever it is that is causing your problems. You'll be missed. Get well soon.
Miggy said…
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have a habit of trying to rewrite history. Daniela Elser

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-have-a-habit-of-trying-to-rewrite-history/news-story/265ccdc0c621476f027392196ed38948
JLC said…
Ant said: Albert won, goes about life as usual in his cheery piggy way.

I LOVE that description of him! It reminded me of the one time I came face to face with Albert. I was parked up in space on the bends up from Monaco to La Turbie when a silver ferrari drew near. It had to slow right down for the tight bend and although I was more interested in the model of car I did notice it's owner look my legs up and down with a sleazy grin at me (had on a short denim skirt I recall!) and it was Albert, totally in that cheery piggy way you describe!

I seem to have a thing with celebrities and cars - Rod Stewart nearly mowed me down in a red rolls!

@AnT - I wanted to say, you have some fascinating stories to tell! You seem to have an interesting and colourful life. You sound like the ideal dinner party guest that I would ply with good plonk to try and extract more juicy details :-)
@WBBM

O/T

@ funny turns , I don’t want to play Doctor here, ;o) you mentioned tilt-table test are you feeling just dizzy with anxiety or? I suffer from Ménière's disease, generally it’s severe vertigo attacks that appear out of nowhere and are exacerbated if under stress etc. There are several varying accompanying symptoms, but I just thought I’d mention it seeing you’re having problems getting a diagnosis.

I hope they sort you out soon! ;o)
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger CookieShark said...
Very interesting post on Twitter today. The poster points out that when our friend lied about being union, she put crew, cast, and directors at risk. I had not thought about that angle. It certainly checks out with how she is rumored to have treated her assistants and security detail when she was in the UK.

They also mentioned that her father is a respected Emmy winner and Trevor is respected in showbiz as well.
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"I'm such a fraud!" she exclaimed on CAMERA.

Yes, you ARE such a fraud.

There are reasons for rules governing Union regulations. Yes, even regulations governing actors and their jobs.
O/T

CookieShark said, I was also ruled out for Meniere's as I had strong ringing in my ears.

As one of the symptoms you can get ringing in your ears or Tinnitus with Ménière's and have it long term too. I get it, but it’s not continuous. However, so very glad to hear you’re so much better. ;o)
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ Raspberry Ruffle

My Dad was an Army officer all his life. He was an artillery officer. He never wore ear protection.

He suffered from tinnitus from the time he was a junior officer (20s) until he died (80s).

We all thought he was a character, which indeed he was, but none of us knew why.
Peppa said…
@tatty I'm not in agreement with your comments about William. I do hope that he is doing well mentally and trying not to let the Harkle's destruction by default destroy him. However, IMO, what H & M have done is unforgivable. A betrayal of the family. Not just any family: THE Family. How this can be misconstrued as anything but a huge dumpster fire heaped upon TRF? So what, Harry is going to be a father of two soon. Has Harry shown any interest or affection towards William's children? Pfff, H stated that his station & popularity may go down once George was born. Is that any way to speak about a nephew? Normal people adore their nieces & nephews. H is a bitter, evil & jealous man who does not deserve forgiveness by a brother who stood by him and tried to help him for years (my opinion here.) I wish all good things going forward for HM, TRF and the Cambs. They deserve it, H does not.

@WBBM My best wishes for a return to good health and get back here soon!
jessica said…
You have to consider what Harry is saying and how it will (or won’t) affect George, Charlotte, and Louis. He’s pretty much accusing William of neglectful and poor parenting for remaining in the BRF. If genetic pain is passed down from Charles to Harry to Archie, then the same would happen to William and his children.

If I could interview Harry I’d include a question about the treatment of his niece and nephews and his thoughts on that.

No one asks him anything real.
O/T Lt. Nyota Uhura

I’m not surprised to hear that he suffered from hearing damage. :o( Tinnitus can be truly awful and so loud! Some people need to play soft music so they can get to sleep to drown out the ringing. My Uncle had it and I’m sure the family thought he was barking mad....till they found out what he had! Lol
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ Raspberry Ruffle

:)
Grisham said…
I saw a video yesterday from when Harry was in the military (he was in fatigues and in a sandy location) and he said he hated England.

I’ll have to find it again.
Grisham said…
Well, here is an article about it. I need to correct “hate” to “doesn’t like England very much”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-harry/britains-prince-harry-i-dont-like-england-much-idUSL2934697420080229
Grisham said…
Who can post this one? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1580452/I-dont-like-England-much-says-Prince-Harry.html
Girl with a Hat said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

my ex has Meniere's, or at least, that's what he's diagnosed with.

I think it's caused by the fact that he drinks at least one beer a day, and has for many years. His Meniere's started a few years after he started drinking a cold beer every.single.day. He also has digestive issues.

I occasionally have ringing in my ears but I am also histamine, salicylate and oxalate intolerant, which I am working on by fixing my gut - leaky gut and SIBO. I cut down on foods with these ingredients (of which there are many) while taking the appropriate supplements (mainly probiotics, collagen and IgG) and I have found that my tolerance for food is improving daily.
Girl with a Hat said…
I forgot to say, beer is extremely high in histamine, but it's also high in yeast, which causes havoc with the intestinal flora.
O/T

@Girl with a Hat

Yes, alcohol, smoking and salt can be triggers, I consume very little salt, never smoked and rarely drink. I’ve suffered with Ménière's since my 20’s, it’s something you learn to live with as there’s no cure.
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Jdubya said…
Ugh - need to catch up but i'll go ahead and post this. It at least marks my place

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9612725/Smug-Prince-Harry-vengeance-spiteful-attack-royal-expert-claims.html

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Ralph L said…
Blogger Caniche said...
Amidst all the to-do with Diana and the Bashir interview, has anybody ever considered that if Charles hadn't blathered to Dimbleby about his infidelity Diana might probably not gone ahead with said interview?

I remember it was generally agreed that his public confession backfired on him. You'd think that might have warned her not to do likewise. But her hatred and paranoia, stoked by MB (with her brother's endorsement), overruled her prudence.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger tatty said...
Well, here is an article about it. I need to correct “hate” to “doesn’t like England very much”
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EXTREMELY nice find, @ tatty.

Thanks.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
(@ tatty's article https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-harry/britains-prince-harry-i-dont-like-england-much-idUSL2934697420080229 )
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Okay, in the interest of sharing a bon mot with fellow Nutties, I thought I would share a photo capture from H's er, "production." The image I was looking for, I found on LSA. H looks like he's drunk as a skunk in it.

When looking for it, I typed in "the me you can't see."

Guess what came up in the results?

Hahahahahaha

I don't think we need worry about the Harkles much at this point .... 😈
Ralph L said…
I'm basically stuck eating plain baked chicken and mashed potatoes

Switch to roast chicken. Serve it with bananas and avocado on toast.
SwampWoman said…
O/T @Jocelyn'sBellinis long COVID:

I am so sorry that you are suffering from long COVID. I don't imagine that there are many physicians knowledgeable about that in a small coastal town. Perhaps you could arrange a consult with a specialist at a teaching hospital, maybe even a ZOOM session? I have read that some physicians are having success with prescribing anti-inflammatories. Some patients have reportedly had some success with anti-inflammatory diets such as eating berries high in anthocyanins and the Mediterranean diet in consultation with nutritionists. Was it the diet, or was it the passage of time? (Now imagine me throwing up my hands in a "who knows?" gesture.) Maybe a little of both, but it certainly couldn't hurt.

I hope that you do not have any residual pain. I have also heard/read that people that didn't lose their sense of taste/smell have had a change in it. One person noted that everything smelled (and tasted) like dirty socks for months afterwards. He noted that he was somewhat happy about it because he needed to lose weight and he certainly didn't overeat anymore.

I expect that you, being in the Pacific Northwest, probably previously ate a diet high in fish and shellfish (salmon! Dungeness crab!) and lots of berries in season (it is nearly strawberry season there, isn't it?) and fresh veggies and mushrooms which sounds very much like the Med diet. OMG, the apples were so good that sometimes I still dream about them instead of the tasteless blobs picked green and artificially ripened that we get at the grocery stores. The stricter shutdowns that y'all experienced may have affected the fresh fruit, produce, and fish situation; I don't know. The COVID would have affected the harvest and sales for sure, though.

I am so sorry that you are now limited to mashed potatoes and chicken. Have you been eating that for the entire year? If or when you could stand it, perhaps you could consult a professional that you trust (or your friends recommend) about doing something for your gut health to re-establish a healthy gut biome such as eating or drinking fermented foods (yogurt, sauerkraut, kimchee, kefir, miso, kombucha, wine!). Maybe your doctor could recommend a probiotic in pill form? I *would* have mentioned resveratrol but that gives me some *extremely* urgent tummy troubles which is something that you do NOT need (your experiences may vary and likely will).

If you cannot tolerate berries whole, maybe throw some in a blender with some raw pineapple for the bromelain (for the anti-inflammatory action and digestive assistance) and some kefir or plain yogurt and have the occasional sip throughout the day even if it does taste awful to you.

I know that you are so tired and so ill that you probably just can't. Maybe some pill form bromelain and probiotics (and prebiotics) would help but best consult a professional for that.
SwampWoman said…
Blogger Ralph L said...
I'm basically stuck eating plain baked chicken and mashed potatoes

Switch to roast chicken. Serve it with bananas and avocado on toast.


Bwahahaha! That is just EVIL. Come on over and sit with me and Magatha. You probably turned poor Jocelyn'sBellinis stomach, though.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Okay, this one is for those who, like myself, have an interest in Dukedoms.

(Plus, those who, like myself, like River the v-logger, :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZp-xG0Rfqk
SwampWoman said…
Girl with a Hat said:

I occasionally have ringing in my ears but I am also histamine, salicylate and oxalate intolerant, which I am working on by fixing my gut - leaky gut and SIBO. I cut down on foods with these ingredients (of which there are many) while taking the appropriate supplements (mainly probiotics, collagen and IgG) and I have found that my tolerance for food is improving daily


How odd/serendipitous that you posted that as I was typing to Jocelyn'sBellinis about fixing gut health. Sounds like you are doing the same thing that I did for my gut problems. Histamine could very well be a factor in long COVID as well.
Christine said…
Hello All

WBBM- Be well. I enjoy your commentary very much and hope you'll be back soon.

I guess I've been thinking over the past few days. It's set in for me just HOW bad Markle is. It's remarkable to believe that Meghan wanted to kill herself because none of her bs was working. People just didn't like her, couldn't warm to her, so many things were coming out and instead of just quietly laying low and figuring it out, she goes to her weak willed, idiot, anger prone husband and methodically lays out how she was going to kill herself. So horrid. And the Red Headed Dunce thinks nothing of it, on her part. Why because she cried in her pillow!?! That idiot never, ever wondered if he was being played?!

It wasn't because they took her passport,etc. It's because she made a series of faux pas, which to her were not faux pas, it's how she really behaves. (Writing messages on bananas to prostitutes, the mess with Eugenie's wedding, so much more). Meghan refused to listen to a shred of advice. When Harry mentions that 'every request, ask, went unanswered', I just wish some palace rep could say FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WE TRIED EVERYTHING WITH MEGHAN AND SHE DIDN'T LISTEN TO A F'ING THING. It is beyond belief really.



Christine said…
OT- Jocelyn'sBellinis- Ugh I feel you so much. I drink a ton of sparkling water and these Body Armor drinks. I've got a doctor appt in a few weeks and I'm so hoping I improve. Thinking about you!
Mel said…
So H makes it a point to note that mm wasn't self-medicating right then when she was talking about suicide.

So I take it that he's been aware of her self-medicating other times?
Grisham said…
LT. Uhura, yes, I was surprised when I ran across that yesterday, as I don’t remember this interview (but I had a bunch of kids I was raising and it was a hectic time in my life with dancing school and soccer and baseball etc).

So in— what was it— 2008 he is on record as saying he doesn’t like (specifically— my point) England very much. not Britain, not the UK.

specifically England.

Do with that what you will. I found it to be an interesting point to find.
Fifi LaRue said…
Page Six (New York Post) has just reported that Harry is very afraid of losing his wife because she told him very seriously and in a very sober mood, that she was suicidal, and was going to kill herself due to the racism of his family. And he's stupid enough to believe her. Wow. When the wife tells him he's effed up and she can't take his mental illness anymore (cough cough he ran out of money), she'll be walking out the door no longer the least bit suicidal.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger tatty said...
LT. Uhura, yes, I was surprised when I ran across that yesterday, as I don’t remember this interview (but I had a bunch of kids I was raising and it was a hectic time in my life with dancing school and soccer and baseball etc).

So in— what was it— 2008 he is on record as saying he doesn’t like (specifically— my point) England very much. not Britain, not the UK.

specifically England.

Do with that what you will. I found it to be an interesting point to find.
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Funny sort of a thing to hear from a citizen of England/UK.

Much less a member of the royal family.

And he thinks he has some kind of cachet with ..... whom? ????

Ugh.

Thanks, @ tatty. You have opened many eyes here, and now more than ever.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Fifi LaRue said...
Page Six (New York Post) has just reported that Harry is very afraid of losing his wife because she told him very seriously and in a very sober mood, that she was suicidal, and was going to kill herself due to the racism of his family. And he's stupid enough to believe her. Wow. When the wife tells him he's effed up and she can't take his mental illness anymore (cough cough he ran out of money), she'll be walking out the door no longer the least bit suicidal.
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Suicidal, shmuicidal.

What the H***L are these papers up to.

M**kle is paying three, count 'em 3, PR companies.

If you ask me, they are laughing all the way to the bank.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
LSA are still having fun with the "leather" gift from the H's 3rd anniversary:

"No, she gave him specially tailored leather chaps with a matching small bag for his "family jewels."
Christine said…
Meghan Markle is anything but suicidal. She'd save her own life at any cost.
SwampWoman said…
May 24, 2021 at 9:18 PM
Blogger Christine said...
Meghan Markle is anything but suicidal. She'd save her own life at any cost.


Yep, she'd definitely throw Harry or anybody else handy on that grenade to save herself.
Christine said…
IF that suicide story is true, she cinched up Harry. It will take a lot to break him free of her grasp. I don't even know what could do it at this point. His constant pain over his mother, that he appears to make no effort to control or deal with, is something that Meghan has been able to springboard onto and grip the reins on Harry.

The good news is that public opinion toward Harry is getting pretty bad right now. He's pretty much a laughing stock. Daily Mail is running away with crazy spins on his interview with pictures of him pointing at his head and looking crazy eyed. It's actually a funny pr campaign on behalf of the DM
AnT said…
Busy day, stray thought —

MM is an arse.

H is an arse.

Both lie like rugs.

I am going to throw this out there:

do we realllllly believe her suicide claims?

And, so, do we really believe that H is THIS devastated about his mother? Grief, yes, of course. But...THIS devastated?

I am thinking.....convenient excuse by a self-serving, cold idiot to get away with a lot, and run away from a lot, and get attention—a lot?

This is a big step, but, think about it.



@Swampwoman,

I don't have the energy to cook or to stand up long enough to prepare a meal, so I'm eating Stouffers baked chicken and drinking Ensure. That's all that I can handle, and some days, even staying awake for the Stouffers to cook is just too much for me, so I end up skipping meals.

This is complete and total exhaustion, which is so hard to describe if you haven't gone through it yourself.

@christine,

Thinking about you, too. I hope that you feel better soon.

@AnT,

I don't believe the suicide story, either. She picked the one thing that she thought people would never dispute, and it backfired on her.

The whole story is laugh-worthy. The crying into her pillow so that she wouldn't disturb H is ridiculous. You're thinking of killing yourself, and the one thing you're worried about is waking up your husband? Then, nobody would help poor, innocent 6's wife find a therapist? Truly unbelievable, unless she is too stupid to ask just ask H, Google therapists or ask her doctor. She's her own worst enemy with these constant lies.

I'm waiting for a false suicide attempt from her (or late-stage miscarriage), and possibly, a real one for Harry.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Jocelyn Bellini

there are supplements you can take for the exhaustion. They help the mitochonria.

Off the top of my head, I recommend astaxantin. It's made from red krill. Ari Whitten has lots of info at his youtube channel or web page theenergyblueprint.com
Girl with a Hat said…
@Swamp Woman,

yes, histamine is definitely an issue in long covid. When one's immune system is triggered, the mast cells spill out histamine.

When I eat something high in histamine, my energy levels drop precipitously. I go from someone who can walk for miles before breakfast to someone who has problems walking to the corner store. For many years, I thought I had chronic fatigue but I couldn't understand why my energy levels fluctuated so much if that was my problem.

People need to stabilize their mast cells and quercetin, zinc and selenium are all mast cell stabilizers. There are others as well, just google for more info.
Pantsface said…
Firstly, genuine best wishes to you all that are suffering from poor health, hope you all feel better soon x

Something I saw on twitter, can't verify it but the story goes they were asked to leave Tyler Perry's mansion as they were awful to the staff and security detail he provided - maybe that explains H's ungrateful words when they left??
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger AnT said...
@Wild Boar Battle-maid,

As you know, I share you worrisome suspicions about Harkle goals and Harkle backers. I think someday we may be proven right.

Something dark and slimy that the Harkles don’t like us to know about is wiggling out there in the dark bushes and coming toward us. I’m waiting for it to arrive.

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Yes. I don't like it, one bit.

Thank G-d I am a Christian. I could be a devout Sikh, or a Muslim, or a Baptist. Choose your potion. All are worthy in our Creator's eyes.

But I believe in something greater than myself. I choose to believe that our Creator sent His Son here to redeem us from all the garbage that we accumulated.

And, it is Him that I thank for paying that price.

Which is why I don't really worry too much about M and H and their silly, stupid antics.

jessica said…
Tatty,

If I had a dollar for every immigrant I’ve met in NYC who didn’t like their home country very much, and after a few years realized the grass isn’t greener and moved back -especially from European countries, and a few from South America, I’d be a very rich person by now. It primarily occurs when they start their kids into school and don’t have extensive time off from work.

My own English husband had his many complaints about English culture and rebel-like attitude when he immigrated to the USA. He’s more even keeled today. Any place has its advantages and disadvantages.

Harry’s desperation to get away from his life of responsibilities just to trade it for a higher risk life with similar responsibilities is short sighted IMO.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger jessica said...
Tatty,

Harry’s desperation to get away from his life of responsibilities just to trade it for a higher risk life with similar responsibilities is short sighted IMO.
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They're going off the rails, IYAKM.

At least, I hope so. Most unChristian of me.

But if anyone can afford to ride out a meltdown, it's them.

Right?
GWAH,

Thanks for all of the advice about COVID relief. I'm going to research the histamine situation and see if that helps me. I'll try anything at this point.

@Pantsface,

I read the same thing about Tyler Perry kicking them out. I'm not sure if it's true, but I wouldn't put it past them to be horrible neighbors and guests. I think the last straw was their putting up a fence around his property. I don't think they asked him for permission. Also, after seeing how dirty they are, I bet the house was a mess. Tyler was Markled, and I think Oprah and Gayle are going to be Markled soon, too.

Ellen sold her Montecito house, Hot Rob moved, and he said the neighborhood hasn't been quiet since they moved in. It's not looking good for The Harkles in Montecito. I think they've been shadow banned.
abbyh said…
What we don't hear about is how she has sought therapy and how wonderful it has been for her.

Especially now that she is "pregnant" again. And that she isn't having to deal with the palace confiscating her stuff - she ought to be able to be out and about and getting that help she never got when she was in the UK.

I don't recall him talking about how it has helped her at all or that it strengthened their marriage.
Jdubya said…
guess who?

MONDAY, MAY 24, 2021
Blind Item #6
On the immigration forms, this foreign born A+ list celebrity (because of birth) said he didn't use and hadn't used drugs, or else you don't get a green card. Well, he publicly admitted he did do drugs, so where did he lie? On the under penalty of perjury forms or in public?

POSTED BY ENT LAWYER AT 8:00 AM 37 COMMENTS

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2021/05/blind-item-6_24.html
Jdubya said…
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger abbyh said...
What we don't hear about is how she has sought therapy and how wonderful it has been for her.

Especially now that she is "pregnant" again. And that she isn't having to deal with the palace confiscating her stuff - she ought to be able to be out and about and getting that help she never got when she was in the UK.

I don't recall him talking about how it has helped her at all or that it strengthened their marriage.

(That is, IF there was a pregnancy.)
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I don't think it's just us, but .... people are really, really, really getting tired of the H's.

Think about it. There are only a few of us anymore who care.

Perhaps this was the "long game" the Royal Family was playing.

If so, it has worked.

Now, you all MUST, at least I HOPE, you will watch this wonderfully over the top gay man who claims to have sources in the Royal Family from whom he derives pretty cogent opinions about what is going on behind the scenes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X37EEPMPFrI

His videos are about a half hour each. He is a hoot.

And then some :)
Jdubya said…
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Mel said…
She picked the one thing that she thought people would never dispute, and it backfired on her.
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She thought that about her miscarriage essay, also. The one thing it's not socially acceptable to criticize her for.

Waiting for her metoo moment.
@Mel,

Yep. If the fake suicidal ideation and the "miscarriage" didn't work, she's going to move onto rape. I think she'll pin it on her father, as Lady C said somebody from M's camp contacted her and said that Thomas did "the worst thing a that could do to a daughter." Hogwash.

If that doesn't work, what's next? That aliens abducted her and did experiments on her?

Of course, her memory of that will be foggy.
@Lt. Uhura,

I love River! He always make me laugh, with that voice and the crown on his head.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Jocelyn'sBellinis said...

I know!!!!!

Such a crush I've got on this guy, LOL

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Lt. Nyota Uhura said...
Blogger Jocelyn'sBellinis said..
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What I love is that he not only tells it like it is, but also is the essence of kindness :)

"My darlings," LOL

Yes, he doesn't pull any punches, but he does it in such an over the top manner that is really rather charming. He shows kindness to those who deserve it, but, wow, he sure went after Elle Magazine today. I love his white fan.
Fifi LaRue said…
I had a friend who, when drinking and sober, would cry about her dead brother. It was endless. She was an active alcoholic. I'm guessing Haz is an active alcoholic who's pain never diminishes, and TW helps to exacerbate.

No, she's not suicidal. She's a cockroach who manages to survive anything. Charles did call her tungsten, for a good reason.
AnT said…
@Lt. Nyota Uhura
@Jocelyn’sBellinis,

May I join the We love River club? He is adorable, wise, funny, beautifully spoken and true-hearted. I would love to hang out with him, adopt him as a brother, move him into the guest house, suggest him for an OBE or leave him my fortune and tiaras in my will. I respect that he speaks honesty though says he is neither sugar nor saltine.

Lt., May I also say your faith in the Above watching over us in the long run is lovely. I think you are right.
AnT said…
@Jocelyn’sBellinis,

I am sending good health thoughts your way. That you are going through feeling so terrible is just awful. Try to keep your strength up even though you may be tired of chicken and potatoes. I wish I had a magic wand to make you (and WBBM and Christine) feel better.

So the idea that rape is the next story on MM’s list....wonder if that is part of the rumored book/documentary she was trying to shop around that my friend in LA heard a about through the gossip mill out there. It sounded like it was supposed to be a big spill.
Elsbeth1847 said…
If she were to claim something bad about her father, that might be the feather that broke everything.

Sure, there would be some who would believe her but the whole saga of victimhood is starting to wear thin (I suspect nationally but let's just stick with them) with the constant "truth bombs" lobed at the BRF and then you layer on the editorial, the never ending drama, the settling the scores book which didn't overrun the world with support for them so the score settling continued with the interview. And, is still going on.

The advantage to setting up a US court would have been that it would have a longer shelf life than the average influencer or for a lot of actresses. It would also be a great potential power move for someone whose feelings might been slighted in some way at any point in time.

But people are losing their reasons to care about rich people who live lives untouched by the problems most people face. Especially the problems of unrelenting financial insecurities, deaths of friends/family to covid which has meant not being able to be there, losses of jobs and more. Families are being fragmented and this nightmare is into year 2. Better than year 1 but still ... it is year 2.

Oh, they will care about select famous people still but those special people will be small in number or what I think of niche categories for influencer. There will probably be a few actors/actresses or famous for being famous people but the problem is really that the field is very crowded and always growing with new and upcoming stars pushing aside better known but 'aging'. Same thing for influencer jobs - another young people's dream job. But people are always getting older and less edgy so less interested in new and must have from the leading edge.

Plus, following what person X is doing is kind of fun but is hard to have as a full time escape.
So the real problem is that as fun and exciting as it is to follow person X, real life has a way of intruding into that take me away moment and you return to ... reality sooner or later.

With 6 and wife, the constant bombardment eventually becomes noise not fun escape any more. Background noise. Tune it out noise. And they are doing more and more, saying more and more to get attention and regain relevancy.

So that's why I say it could be come a feather which releases the landslide they are standing in front of.

And so sympathy can swing more and more toward that poor family having to have people like that say all those horrible things about you combining with the what I call normal respect/like of the Queen from ordinary people (and how she just lost her husband - something many can relate to). Add in all the miss-truths from the interview which haven't touched the States yet so those can more easily come out now in full force. And, William is continuing to do exactly what he has been doing all along that they did not want to be a part of (with all the photo ops for people to compare).



Unknown said…
OT:
@Jocelyn'sBellinis @Christine
I am so sorry to hear about your ill health because of Covid. I send my best wishes for your recovery.

I had a few episodes where I was bed-ridden most of the day because of severe anemia that required blood transfusions. I didn't have the strength to get to the restroom let alone stand up to brush my teeth. I ate only once a day and it was always ready-made Mediterranean that I could take out of the fridge or pantry and required no dishes: sardines, greek yogurt, cheese, and spoonfuls of extra-virgin olive oil, tomato paste, hummus with ready-made salads or pickled veggies. I drank sparkling water to help with digestion.

I default to the Mediterranean diet when I'm not Keto because I grew up with it but my food list might be too high in histamines. I just wanted to give options to up your antioxidants and probiotics with the least amount of effort.
@charade,

Thank you! I couldn't stand long enough to brush my teeth, either. I'd have to sit on the toilet seat lid to get through it. Getting to the bathroom was a major event. Every move had to be planned out in advance. I really could have used a wheelchair, but I wouldn't be able to do a transfer from wheelchair to toilet.

I'm so sorry that you had to go through that. It sounds horrible. It's amazing how strong we can be when the pain and exhaustion are so intense that you can't focus on anything else. We just do what we have to do to survive.

@GWAH,

I was thinking of the histamine thing, and because I've been eating nothing but baked chicken for a few months, I don't think it's a histamine problem.

When this is over I'm going to get the biggest steak and some champagne or maybe a bacon cheese burger. I'm about ready to squawk from eating so much chicken.
jessica said…
The blind item doesn’t make sense. They ask if you’ve been convicted for drug offenses.
Grisham said…
Jessica, I think enty got that from the Meg Ryan movie where she was trying to get citizenship and they asked her if she ever did drugs lol.

You are correct. With a visa application, they only ask if you were convicted of a drug offense.
AnT said…
🌋💥☄️

The Mirror reports that the Daily Beast’s Royal Inspected newsletter

believes Baby Diana will be born

by the end of May.

.
SwampWoman said…
Jocelyn'sBellinis, I question whether you are taking in enough calories and vitamins to fuel your body? If you are getting Stouffer's TV dinners, there are other quite nutritious frozen food that comes in microwavable bags from Birds Eye, among others. I'm having microwaved broccoli, sugar snap peas, carrots and water chestnuts tonight (ready in 5 minutes in my microwave, woot!). It doesn't have any sauces or butter. The ingredients list (in order by weight) is broccoli, carrots, sugar snap peas and water chestnuts. That's it. Pair that with a grocery store rotisserie chicken, and you have instant food. There would be enough chicken for another meal, maybe two. Boil a couple eggs and chop, open a bagged salad, add some of that leftover rotisserie chicken and other ingredients of your choice (avocado?) and salad dressing, and you have a Cobb salad. Prepared hummus for a dip and chopped veggies, yum! If boiled eggs are too labor intensive, grocery stores usually carry them.

Do you have grocery delivery available there? If not, I'm sure you have friends or neighbors that would be happy to make a grocery store run or, if you fear imposing on others, you can hire a personal assistant to do the same. You probably have a housecleaner; she may be willing to expand her repertoire to food gathering. If that is too much for your situation at the moment, see the next paragraph.

How about food delivery, or are restaurants shut down/out of business? The restaurants here, to increase business when older and more cautious people were afraid to come in, got permission from the state government to offer alcoholic beverages with their take-out orders. Fajitas and Margaritas delivered by Door Dash? Hell, YEAH! (I'm not sure how good the work at home product was after a 4-Margarita lunch but that is not my problem. Perhaps home Margarita delivery is related to how short our lockdown proved to be.) Liquor delivered with lunch or dinner proved to be so popular that it remains.

Another thing that I would suggest for you to consider is that you are certainly deconditioned because you have been so tired you can't move, but it may be a self-fulling malady at this point. The tireder you are, the less you move, which makes your muscles more deconditioned and the tireder you are... Your physician may be able to write an order for a physical therapist to come and help you with exercises in your home.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Joyce Bellani,

I don't think you have histamine intolerance. I think covid destabilizes your mast cells to increase the inflammation and hence, the histamine in your body.

You need to lower the inflammation and the mast cells will stop spewing out histamine.

I've already given you a list of mast cell stabilizers. There are lots of anti-inflammation agents as well, you just need to decide which ones are best for you.
@GWAH,

Ok, thanks. I'll look into it. I really appreciate the advice.
@Swampwoman,

I have IBS, so have to be careful abut what I eat, and I've tried various meal plans to get the nutrition that I need, but the list is pretty limited. Also, most foods smell awful and taste even worse. Grocery rotisserie chicken smells awful to me. If I eat too many vegetables, the IBS causes all sorts of problems, and I end up looking like I'm nine months pregnant.

When my mother was ill, I was worried about her eating nothing but Stouffer's, too, and asked her doctor about it. The doctor said not to worry about it because at least she's eating something.

Most of the restaurants are closed here, except for the pizza places, and you know that's not going to work.

My cleaning lady gets my groceries for me and does other errands, too. I thank God that she is so willing to help me.

I know I sound like a downer or like I'm just rejecting helpful ideas about this, but it's really been a struggle to find foods that will work. I do drink Ensure for breakfast and shortly before bed, which adds another 300 calories to my diet. On a good day, I'll have a piece of toast. I really miss cooking, as that was one of my passions.

I'm using the exercise plan (not really a workout) that my mother's doctor gave her. It's mostly stretching, chair or bed exercises and Tai Chi-like movements that prevents muscle degeneration.

Thanks for all of the advice. I'll stop talking about this now, as I'm sure that most people here don't want me to take over the blog with my medical issues.
AnT said…
@Jocelyn’sBellinis,

A good friend suffers from IBS, and recommended this site to my mother and aunt as being helpful, and offering a supportive community: It’s kind of an old school, non fancy site, but they also offer a few food items you can order so I thought I would mention it. It may not be anything you don’t already know, but here It is:

Link: helpforibs.com

.
Happy Camper said…
Christine said…
IF that suicide story is true, she cinched up Harry. It will take a lot to break him free of her grasp. I don't even know what could do it at this point. His constant pain over his mother, that he appears to make no effort to control or deal with, is something that Meghan has been able to springboard onto and grip the reins on Harry.

@Christine: Narcissists like Meghan are habitual liars, so I do not believe the miscarriage story, the race charges against the RF, that Archie was able to say “Grandma Diana” without being trained like a seal to say it, and I believe Meghan concocted the suicide story as a ploy to keep her agenda to get Harry to agree to move to the US with her.

Like most narcs, Meghan relies heavily on playing the victim, and she plays the poor me damsel in distress so Harry can ride in as the heroic prince in shining armor on his trusty steed and save her. She used the victim narrative from the start by portraying herself as a semi-orphan (“the family she never had”). The suicide story is just another manipulation of Harry.

He was just a boy when his mother died, and he was helpless to protect and save Diana. But Meghan, who fashioned herself as Diana 2.0, is happy to stand in place of Diana as his “Mommy with benefits” that he can protect from the mean, nasty world the way he couldn’t protect and save his real mother.

She also makes sure to keep the scabs ripped off Harry’s emotional wounds to never allow healing to take place so he can get on with his life.

Diana must be spinning in her grave non-stop that such a pernicious, loathsome woman has eviscerated her son and controls him purely for her own selfish agenda.
@Puds,

Thanks for pointing out the article. I'm going to head over there now to read it.
jessica said…
SwampWoman,

If I do anything this week it will be to buy a rotisserie chicken and the steamed frozen veggie packs. Great suggestion and so simple! (I’m over the whole cooking thing LOL). I went full keto last summer and failed after 7 weeks, once I hit the beach with a pina colada in hand. Oops.
:D

So sorry to hear of everyone’s plights- I hope you all feel better soon!!! I’m going to read up more on histamines. Such great info here and I love learning from you all, but yes please please feel better. If I had your addresses I’d send cookies. Or soup. Or a nurse.

As for Meghan....I don’t think she nor Harry will be going to the Diana statue unveiling. He said in therapy on line TV England on arrival causes him huge anxiety. He hates his family there. I’m actually surprised he even gives a damn about Diana. Most people blame their moms’ (or absent or abusive dads) for all their failings. This idea in his head that Diana was infallible...he sounds totally stupid. Surely any competent shrink would be reminding him that while he idolizes her as a regressed 12 year old (his words lol), when one grows up they realize their parents are only human, for better or worse. Harry had an unbelievably stable upbringing, so it’s quite shocking he is so screwed up (or putting it on!).

The unveiling...they’ll want that all to themselves and I’d imagine it will have to do with baby Diana.
Caniche said…
@Jessica. Personally I hope he does come over for the unveiling of Diana's statue, throws a mega wobbly (with filmed violence), gets sectioned and - Bob's your uncle !
@Happy Camper,

Great post! I think she concocted the suicide story to subliminally give H some "ideas," and also for sympathy, but mostly to lead H's thoughts in a certain direction.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
@Swampwoman,

I have IBS, so have to be careful abut what I eat, and I've tried various meal plans to get the nutrition that I need, but the list is pretty limited. Also, most foods smell awful and taste even worse. Grocery rotisserie chicken smells awful to me. If I eat too many vegetables, the IBS causes all sorts of problems, and I end up looking like I'm nine months pregnant.

Ugh. Can I get a witness, LOL ....

______

Vitamins, vitamins.
______

Blogger AnT said...
@Lt. Nyota Uhura
@Jocelyn’sBellinis,

May I join the We love River club? He is adorable, wise, funny, beautifully spoken and true-hearted. I would love to hang out with him, adopt him as a brother, move him into the guest house, suggest him for an OBE or leave him my fortune and tiaras in my will. I respect that he speaks honesty though says he is neither sugar nor saltine."

_____

People like him are the spice of life :)



@Lt. Uhura,

You too? IBS is a literal pain, isn't it. I'm glad somebody understands about the vegetables. Yep, I take vitamins, too.

Please do join us at the River Club. He's such a sweetie. I found an early episode where he says he loves Lady C, and he kind of adopted her style. I can see it.

I was reading about the theft of the Mary Queen of Scots items yesterday and had to message my brother to say: "who do we know connected to Sussex who wouldn't pass up the chance to get her hands on some BRF related jewellery?". I know it's a complete figment of my imagination associating this with her but it made me and my brother giggle.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57224777
A set of gold rosary beads carried by Mary Queen of Scots at her execution in 1587 was among items worth more than £1m stolen in a raid on Arundel Castle.
The gold and silver artefacts were snatched from the West Sussex castle on Friday night.
Other pieces taken during the raid include coronation cups given by Mary to the Earl Marshal.
An Arundel Castle spokesman said the stolen items were of "priceless historical importance"
[...]
Peter Squires, professor of criminology at the University of Brighton, said there was a "surprising amount" of thefts of "antiquities or cultural artefacts".
He said items were often stolen to order and end up in the private collections of very rich people.


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OT

I didn't lose my sense of taste/smell when I was really sick in March 2020, but in October last year it totally vanished on me with no warning (I'd assumed the sugar free cookies hubby bought for me were literally tasteless until I went back to the coffee I'd been drinking a few minutes before, when that had no taste either alarm bells started ringing). I ordered a test and that came out negative, so that was one good outcome at least. It took 2-3 months for me to get taste/smell starting to come back but the weirdest thing is while my senses have been returning gradually, I've been randomly smelling things that aren't there. Hubby ordered a gas inspection and also bought a gas detector earlier this year because I was so convinced I could smell gas when he couldn't smell a thing. Taste seems to be back to normal now (as far as I can tell, haven't "not tasted" something for a while), it's just the smell I'm still having issues with. Yesterday I could smell Refreshers sweets very strongly - neither of us have had those for years. After having time to think about it for months I've got a pet theory that it may be a similar process to damaged nerve endings growing back and something's gone a little wonky while it's repairing itself - I don't know how accurate that theory is but the smell thing kind of reminds me of nerve damage I had after I almost lost the tip of a finger, I had all kinds of odd sensations in the end of my finger while it was repairing itself despite the area still being numb to the touch.

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