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Open Post: Three Years Going On Four of the Sussexes

Instead of the traditional leather gifts on the Sussexes' 3rd Anniversary, we got an announcement for plans of an Indian Community Relief Center after hearing Princess Beatrice's baby announcement.

Let's continue the conversation...

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@hikari,

If Diana were alive today, the adult Harry would be cuddled up in her lap. Her death was only a part of his bigger mental health issues. He'd still be an emotionally stunted little boy if Diana were still alive and probably living with her. Diana did Harry no favors by coddling him.
AnT said…
@Hikari,

Thank you — but I am handing the lattes and pastries right back to you for your superb analysis of what happened in Paris.

As my mother once noted, playboys killed Diana, not paparazzi.
Portcitylass said…
5x you crack me up.😆 So true, too!
AnT said…
@jocelyn’sbellinis,

I am honored by your kind comment. I am afraid the Harkles, Oprah and their ilk have crossed my personal line in the sand. I am sick of their fatuous posturing, and disgusted by the decision each of those celebrities made to join Harry and Oprah in dragging Diana’s lifeless body across the gravel yet again.
AnT said…
@Jocelyn’s Bellinis,

Meant to add that I agree with your vision of what Harry would be today if Diana had survived.
JennS said…
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Snarkyatherbest said…
JennS. Hot Rob was filling in for Ellen today, saw it while channel surfing. He did look fine.

Archie pic the I’ve I saw there was something odd going on with the feet. Nothing is ever straight forward with the harkles
Oh Floof said…
@XXXXX,

“One word encapsulates this, is (emotional) vampire. This why is there are so many of these stupid Vampire movies that I never watch. Maybe one in the 1980s.”

Is it The Lost Boys? God, I love that movie.
Anonymous said…
@WBBM

Thank you so much for the NZ Herald piece on William’s response to the Lord Dyson inquiry. It really was a masterstroke—so very powerful and moving.
Anonymous said…
William is quietly winning the battle of the royal brothers
Their responses to Bashir revelations are as different as they are as people, but we knew they would be
By Camilla Tominey in The Telegraph

It must frustrate Prince Harry that his own popularity has become so obviously inversely proportional to his brother’s. They had a highly competitive relationship before Harry and Meghan decided to throw a grenade under the Queen and the Royal family in favour of earning Kardashian cash in the US. It often appeared that a large part of the Sussexes’ beef with the monarchy was that they constantly felt in the Cambridges’ shadow.

Yet their bid to seek “financial independence” in California has cast them completely in the shade in the minds of the majority of Brits, many of whom would prefer it if they disappeared from view altogether.

The more they have accused the “racist” Royal family of “total neglect”, the more they have succeeded in encouraging the British public to throw their support behind the institution – as shown by a YouGov poll last week finding six in 10 people want them to be stripped of their titles or to stop using them.

The better William and Kate perform, the worse Harry and Meghan look for breaking up the Fab Four in the first place. The Yanks might not see it like this, but we do because, unlike naive Americans prone to endless psychobabble, we were never under any illusions about the dysfunctionality at the heart of the Royal family (or any family, for that matter).

In his latest outpouring for his new Apple TV documentary series, Harry voiced his resentment at being told to “play the game” to make life easier in the House of Windsor.

I’ve got a hell of a lot of my mum in me,” he boasted. “The only way to free yourself and break out is to tell the truth.”

Yet, ironically, the one person in The Firm who “played the game” better than anyone else was Diana, Princess of Wales. That was until she took the disastrous decision to pour her heart out to deceitful Martin Bashir – albeit under what we now know were false pretences.

By continuing to stoke the flames of publicity with his smug, self-pitying and at times, spiteful rhetoric, Harry shows he has actually learned nothing from his mother’s experience.

For in trying to emulate her doe-eyed confessionals to speak his “truth”, he is repeating her mistake of squandering popularity for the sake of evening the score. While there’s no doubting Harry’s noble intentions in wanting to raise awareness of mental health issues – let’s make no mistake here, like Diana deciding to air her dirty linen on the BBC, this is a man out for vengeance.

With his team of officious LA-based PRs and unwillingness to appear on any platform that actually offers a right of reply to the people he trashes, he’s hypocritically playing his own, one-sided games.

Exactly like his mother at her lowest ebb, Harry seems to think the world is out to get him.

Yet far from it being personal, there is a word for what has happened to him over the years. It’s called “life”.


Anonymous said…
(Camilla Tominey continued)

While he was a 12-year-old walking behind his mother’s coffin in 1997, there were literally hundreds and thousands of other children also coming to terms with the loss of a parent.

Around the same time, I was a teenager, scraping my alcoholic mother off the pavement. As any therapist worth their salt will tell him – you can either hold onto the past and let it dictate your future, or let go and truly “find your freedom”.

William has had to endure exactly the same fate as Harry. In fact, as the elder brother and “heir” rather than “spare” it has arguably been even more difficult for him.

As his dignified statement on Thursday night made clear, he vividly remembers “the fear, paranoia and isolation” of his mother’s final years. It was his shoulder upon which she cried about the breakdown of her marriage.

It was he who promised her, after she lost the HRH style, that he would “give it back to you one day when I am king.”

As the child of divorced parents myself, I know all too well that while every child is adversely affected, the oldest is often at the coalface, shouldering most of the burden.

Despite this, and having to come to terms with being tethered to a life mapped out at birth, William has borrowed from the best of his mother’s playbook.

He has resolved to serve others, rather than himself. Instead of growing up to resent the rules of the game, he has used them to his advantage, realising – as all the best royals do – that it is never really about “them”, but about “us”.

Unlike Harry, who has misinterpreted the Queen’s “never complain, never explain” mantra as a gagging clause – William has used it as it was intended, as a protection order to ensure the lines between the professional and the personal do not become too blurred.

Like the mute button on Twitter, he has silenced his critics not by taking them on, but keeping calm and carrying on regardless. And in stark contrast to his brother, William has shown he understands the press as well as Diana did.

By actually reading the newspapers (rather than obsessing over the online comments like Harry), the second-in-line to the throne has come to the sensible conclusion that the media, while imperfect, can be used as a considerable force for good.

While his brother was using Lord Dyson’s report as a stick with which to once again beat the tabloid press, William was mature enough to acknowledge that if it wasn’t for the newspapers, Bashir would have got away with his rogue reporting for even longer.

“Public service broadcasting and a free press have never been more important,” he magnanimously declared. Harry’s nonsense claim that “practices like these – and even worse – are still widespread today” only serves to highlight just how unqualified he is to act as referee on matters as serious as the First Amendment, which he described as “bonkers” on a recent podcast.

Both these royal brothers are playing a game – but only one of them is winning.

AnT said…
@JennS,

I think I commented briefly yesterday about the “Archie” photos, but this has been a busy thread and it’s buried somewhere.

My opinion was that those are two different children. No question. Beach Archie is smaller younger with straight dark hair, and Swing Archie is bigger and longer with that rough curly or wavy lighter hair. It’s simply more stupid immature gaslighting of the public and gullible sugars. What an incredibly low and disdainful way to treat their desperate fans.

The thing to note — I keep meaning to say this — is that not once is a photo released with the words, “This is a photo of our son Archie, taken (date) at (place) signed, —- Harry, or —Meghan.”

That’s the tip-off this is a giant ruse, with wiggle room for them to simply smirk and shrug if caught out. “We never said the children shown in the photos were ours.”

As I think I said yesterday, these are grifters carefully training people to disbelieve their own eyes and not use their own cognitive skills of discernment. They are training people to believe in unicorns and not one journalist is calling out the obvious: those are not the same kids, and they are different than Duck Rabbit Archie too.

The day WIlliam says “where is my nephew — we have had no credible views of or information about him in over a year” is the day these journalists might finally decide to do their jobs.
JennS said…
Snarkyatherbest said...
JennS. Hot Rob was filling in for Ellen today, saw it while channel surfing. He did look fine.
...........

Well now, our boy is getting around this week. I ALSO caught a glimpse of him while surfing - in a commercial for an upcoming episode of Family Feud! That man hustles his butt off!
Natalier said…
@ Rebecca

Thank you for Camilla Tominey's piece. It was very well written and I think it spoke for many of our thoughts.
Natalier said…
@ Hikari

Very well said about how Dodi and Diana's fate could have turned out different.

For the life of me, I cannot imagine why they did not belt up especially when the car was going at breakneck speed and supposedly followed closely by the papz. Common sense dictates that you belt up esp in such instances - I know I do, so do my colleagues.
Mel said…
H's goal is not to raise mental health awareness in any way. His one and only goal is to beat PW at something, anything, and get himself appointed King, of something. His only goal in life is to be seen as either equal to, or better than, his brother.

IMO, even if he had more $ than PW he still wouldn't be happy. He has to be able to lord it over PW.

And his wife doesn't have to curtsey to Catherine.
AnT said…
@Rebecca,

May I echo Natalier and thank you for posting the Tominey article — it’s excellent.

@Natalier,
Agreed - I think Tominey wrote what many of us are thinking, feeling, sensing. The contrast between the two brothers is stark.
Mel said…
When you look at that last night, there are so many places where if only one decision had been different the ending would have been so much better.

My neighbor's house burned down this week. Scared the death out of me, I was so afraid that my own house would catch on fire, too.

In listening to the neighbor's story of how it happened, I was struck by how many places in the story if only one decision had been a better (or right) decision, the fire wouldn’t have happened.

I think Diana's last night was like that.
Hikari said…
@AnT

The more one reflects on the tragedy in Paris, the more infuriating it gets. So much was made at the time of the paparazzi‘s culpability on the motorcycles, the mysterious white Fiat, witness reports of a flash bang just prior to the crash, etc. Like the tragedy of errors that was the Titanic, one can point to a series of decisions that were minuscule in themselves, but piled up to create an entirely avoidable loss of life. If Dodi had been so hell-bent on presenting Diana with that ring, which they both paid with their lives to retrieve, why didn’t he have it with him at the hotel that evening? Surely a romantic dinner at the Ritz would have been a perfect occasion. But perhaps testifying to the ambivalence in this romance on both sides, Dodi Had left it sitting on his coffee table or wherever. Why wouldn’t he have brought such an expensive precious item to the hotel and put it in the safe? It makes no sense, since it was so late by the time they set out.

My heart really breaks for Charles, who After 24 years of painstaking work To rehabilitate his own reputation and that of his wife, is dragged back into the morass of grief and chaos that defined his life that summer in for years afterwards. He and Camilla were not kind to a mentally fragile woman, the mother of his children, but Charles was not responsible for this, despite Mohamed outside and half of the world trying to make it so. At the time she died, Diana had only known Dodi for a month. She was completely off her head, toying with this high profile playboy to make Hasnat Khan jealous. That poor man dodged the mother of all bullets by breaking things off with her.

Charles must be in a private hell that we can only imagine. His own son stabbing him in the back Over and over so Soon after the death of his father. Has hairy express the tiniest modicum of grief for the grandfather who tried to give him so much? It’s fashionable to blame the wife for Harry’s current attitude, but I think far from turning his heart from a good path, she’s just giving him permission to be his worst self. The self that he always was, but under the umbrella of the RF,They could hide some of the Heinousness. I think it’s been far worse behind the scenes for Charles and William for years and years, maybe Harry was Old enough for school. Increasingly, he reminds me of that movie “the bad seed”. Or maybe the one about Damien, the devils child. What ever Diana’s failings, Her younger son surpasses her in spades.
AnT said…
@Mel,

Your comment!! Wouldn’t it be something if all this ugliness, mayhem and the circus of lies really HAS occurred simply because delusional narcissist Megs couldn’t bear the idea of curtsying to Catherine, the woman who has everything (William) Megs the Mimic ever wanted (William) — but can never have (William)?



Petunia said…
MM is good at playing cards...the race card, the suicide card, the mentail health card, the dead mother card. The only racist thing I have seen WRT her is Princess Michael's wearing the blackamoor brooch. But since PM's father was an actual Nazi, it's not surprising she's a bigot. I don't believe for one minute that MM was ever suicidal. As for mental illness, she is clearly a narcissistic psycopath. I DO feel awful for PH and PW for the loss of their mother, but PH is now exploiting his dead mother for sympathy, publicity, and money. And Diana would probably still be alive if she had done three things: accept personal security from the RF and not Fayed's shoddy "close protection" squad, not get into a car with a drunk driver, and wear her seatbel
Elsbeth1847 said…
AnT - your comment about Meg wanting William but could never have him reminds me of Gone With the Wind - who it is who Scarlett wants but can never have and who no longer wants her. That was a script Hollywood drooled over.

And, maybe what part of this is the longing of 6 and wife is a part of them which wants to feel wanted but yet wants to control how they are wanted and by whom instead of being able to accept the love offered to them by those who loved them (maybe because it would not be controlled by 6/wife or because it was controllable and that wasn't enough for the emptiness inside of 6/wife).
AnT said…
@Hikari,

I’ve read a lot of lengthy articles about the night of Diana’s death. I watched news coverage, a few investigative specials, anda long documentary that focused on the Fiat Uno. I read the Andrew Morton book, found in the shelves of a beach house I once rented.

Everything you write(@ 4:41am) about the avoidable stupidity that resulted in the tragedy in that tunnel is really the way I view it as well. A perfect storm of terrible decisions and ridiculous elements. About the ring: in a September 2 #006 article in the Evening Standard, Paul Burrell insisted the ring Diana wore on her right hand the night she died was only a yellow gold Bulgari “friendship ring” from Dodi —do playboys hand out friendship rings? —- but there was no mention of the ring left at his father’s house.

Risking her life in a speeding car with no seatbelt...with a goofy show-off bossy playboy she barely knew... on a dumb vacation to make a heart surgeon ex jealous because of the huge yacht and med-rat security....

Charles might be reeling, or at this point after conversation with Camilla and William, he might be finally seeing the truth he needed to see, and beginning to accept it with the support of those around him.

Harry’s continuing need to keep detonating his “truth” to upset a father and grandmother who are mourning the loss of Philip suggests Harry is profoundly disturbed, or working for a stern boss. Or both.
AnT said…
@Petunia,
Do narcissists as extreme as Megs ever consider suicide? It seems highly unlikely as they regard them as the highest divine power. I don’t believe her suicide claims either. I firmly believe she acquired that story to add to her victim repertoire, just as she acquired the bumps she forgot to wear out on her grinning sly night out with Markus one month after the blue sequins suicide night.

@Elsbeth1847,
Wow, that’s brilliant,,,,the similarities are uncanny.

“Gone with the Whinge”?

Foose said…
I wonder if Markle has attentively studied the excruciating public meltdown of Britney Spears in 2008 and is applying calculated treatments to achieve the same result. After all, Britney wound up in a conservatorship under the control of her "loving father" and continued to crank out a reliable revenue stream while permitted mimimal personal freedom. No need to kill Harry, just reduce him to a lobotomized circus animal who still gets attention and freebies that she can leech off of.
Elsbeth1847 said…
That is funny Gone with the Whinge
SwampWoman said…
Mel said...
When you look at that last night, there are so many places where if only one decision had been different the ending would have been so much better.

My neighbor's house burned down this week. Scared the death out of me, I was so afraid that my own house would catch on fire, too.

In listening to the neighbor's story of how it happened, I was struck by how many places in the story if only one decision had been a better (or right) decision, the fire wouldn’t have happened.

I think Diana's last night was like that.


Indeed. It does seem as though fate stepped in and sealed hers.

If she had changed Just One Thing, history would have been forever changed. Amazing that that little voice for self-preservation inside her was ignored, locked in a closet, or passed out drunk somewhere.

There was a case here of two people driving in a vehicle to go shopping. A tree suddenly toppled over and crushed them. It was not storming. The wind was not blowing. They did nothing unsafe. The tree was alongside a ditch and it had rained recently. Apparently it was enough so that the root system could no longer support the tree.

I think that it is easier for humans to look at the preceding events in things like Diana's death and your neighbor's fire and want to assign responsibility for the event. Sadly, like Lemony Snicket's "A Series of Unfortunate Events", we don't always know why. We don't want to think that we can be driving to work and suddenly a car veers over from an oncoming lane and hits us head on, killing us instantly. We probably wouldn't ever leave the house if we couldn't rationalize sudden death or misfortune as happening to somebody that made bad decisions unlike US. (Looking back at MY long strings of bad decisions, I just may elect to stay at home for the foreseeable future or until I run out of coffee and chocolate.)
Magatha Mistie said…

@AnT

“Gone with the Whinge” hahaha 😂
May I add:
Fret Wussler and Harlot O’Hari?

By allowing Haz to show the world
that he’s mentally disturbed,
unhinged, bonkers!!
madam has set him up for divorce/sectioned.
The poor old dame has to divorce/section
him for his own sake, and for the sake of
her and the children’s safety, mental well-being.
Devious, conniving, trollop.

Jdubya said…
Part 1 -

found this posted on LSA - there is a photo of drunken H falling down.
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-8360

"Prince Harry is to receive a severe dressing down from his Army superiors over his late-night antics.

The 22-year-old will be told before he leaves for a six-month posting in Iraq next month that he must curb his drinking and behave impeccably at all times.

The warning - expected to be delivered by his Commanding Officer - follows a series of undignified incidents which culminated last weekend in him falling into the gutter outside a London nightclub.


Harry drunk


It is understood that officers in Scotland Yard's Royalty Protection Squad have also expressed concerns about Harry's penchant for drinking and nightclubs.

Privately they believe that he is becoming 'unmanageable' - putting himself at unnecessary risk of attack from fellow clubbers or even terrorists.

The Daily Mail can also reveal that officers are concerned about the activities of a number of 'hangers on' in Harry's entourage who encourage his excesses.

According to security sources, Army chiefs have spoken informally to senior royalty protection officers about the prince's increasingly erratic behaviour.
Jdubya said…
Part 2 -



Harry soldier


As a junior officer in the Blues and Royals regiment of the Household Cavalry - motto Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense (Shame on him who thinks this evil) - Harry is expected to conduct himself with dignity, especially when in public.


A security source said: "Before he goes to Iraq next month, Harry will be told in no uncertain terms that his conduct has to improve. There have been concerns for quite some time about his late-night drinking - and the company he is keeping.

"The time has come for him to be told, 'Enough is enough'. A high-ranking officer will tell him his behaviour is unacceptable."

The move was backed by Dai Davies, a former head of Scotland Yard's Royalty Protection Squad.

He said: "Harry is not behaving like a senior royal, let alone an Army officer. What he is doing is compromising his security and the security of others. Ludicrous amounts of money are being spent on providing him with 24-hour security.

"It is very difficult, if not impossible, for royalty protection officers to carry out their duties properly if Harry is getting drunk in nightclubs, where he may be surrounded by people who are armed or using drugs. The time has come for him grow up. He is not 18 any more - he is 22."


The incident which left Harry stumbling in the gutter happened outside his favourite haunt, Boujis in South Kensington. He had spent the evening downing Crack Baby cocktails - a mix of vodka, passion fruit, raspberry liqueur and champagne - with his friend, budding TV presenter Natalie Pinkham.


Delivered in a test tube, the Crack Baby is designed to be 'downed in one' and costs £8 a time.

A bottle of vodka - which also ensures drinkers a table at Boujis - costs £250 and comes with a variety of juices and soft drinks so that customers can mix their own cocktails.

However Harry and his brother William tend to drink on the house because manager Jake Parkinson-Smith is grateful for the publicity that their visits ensure.

The fracas broke out when Miss Pinkham left Boujis via the main entrance at 3am and Harry tried to slip out of the back but ran straight into a posse of photographers, including Nirach Tanner.

"He was very drunk," said Mr Tanner, 27. "I took a few shots and he just came for me. He screamed at me to 'f*** off', then grabbed me and tried to shove me over. He had his hands around my collar and back. It was an assault."

The prince is now on three weeks leave before he is sent to Iraq with the Blues and Royals. There are reports that his Zimbabweangirlfriend Chelsy Davy, who is touring the world during her university gap year, has cancelled plans to join him in England following reports of his disorderly date with Miss Pinkham.


By contrast with Harry's behaviour, police are not overly concerned about the drinking antics of Prince William, 24, although he was recently spotted downing shots of sambuca and gyrating on a podium in a Bournemouth nightclub.

He has also been photographed in drunken clinches with a variety of girls.

One source said: "By comparison, William is responsible. He does not routinely compromise his security arrangements."
Hikari said…
https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/amp36500174/prince-harry-shares-new-photos-archie-harrison/

In which H insists to Oprah that his 2 year old son's first words after "mama" and "papa" were, And I $h%* you not, “grandma Diana”.

What further proof do we require that the Harkles are taking the p!$$ With the worldwide media and everyone reading?

Wasn’t it just a couple of months ago that H Insisted to James Corden on top of a fuss that RT’s very first words consisted of “waffle maker”?

Magatha Mistie said…

The Mad Hazzer

It’s all Just a game
His aims to defame
His family, the Constitution
But he’s shown to the world
With this latest sh.t hurled
He belongs in a Mental Institution





JennS said…
A lot of old reports about Harry's drinking seem to be coming out now challenging some of the claims he is currently making in his whine-fests. I saw one about him coming home drunk late at night while he, William and Diana were vacationing with Dodi. He was pretty young then.

One amusing item of note in the article that Jdubya posted above is this:

"He had spent the evening downing Crack Baby cocktails - a mix of vodka, passion fruit, raspberry liqueur and champagne - with his friend, budding TV presenter Natalie Pinkham.
Delivered in a test tube, the Crack Baby is designed to be 'downed in one' and costs £8 a time."


Aren't Crack Babies the drinks that Nutty poster Elle used to write about?
😂😂😂
SwampWoman said…
I think that it is probably a *very* good thing that I grew up before ubiquitous cell phones.
JennS said…
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SwampWoman said…
"He had spent the evening downing Crack Baby cocktails - a mix of vodka, passion fruit, raspberry liqueur and champagne - with his friend, budding TV presenter Natalie Pinkham.
Delivered in a test tube, the Crack Baby is designed to be 'downed in one' and costs £8 a time."

Aren't Crack Babies the drinks that Nutty poster Elle used to write about?


Heh. I think she was going to sip them with Catherine as they dished about Yak Hair.

I would really, really like one right now.
jessica said…
Harry seems to hit and aggressively grab a lot of people and these accounts here on Nutty are only the *published* ones. He and Meghan are violent bullies who love the attention that puts them in compromising situations. I cannot wrap my head around the level of chaos and drama the two thrive on together.
hunter said…
"Gone with the Whinge"

AAAAHHHH HA HAAHHAHAHAH HA AHAHAH HAHA HA HA HA HA

dying, I'm dying.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ hunter, me too, HAHAHAHAHA
Happy Camper said…
Mel said...
And his wife doesn't have to curtsey to Catherine.

@Mel: It’s likely Meghan has gotten her wish to never have to curtsey to Catherine.

There’s a good chance Meghan will never see Catherine face-to-face ever again.

Even when HMTQ passes on, if the Sussexes are still together, Meghan surely would not be invited to the funeral, and with the way Harry is doing Meghan’s bidding by tossing endless bombs at his family, Harry also might not be invited.

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Rebecca said...
William is quietly winning the battle of the royal brothers
_____

I like this :)
I don't recall us talking about H's frequent excuse for flying by PJ/leaving the UK - namely that he feared for the `safety' of his family.

What exactly was he afraid of?

Had he come to believe, as his mother did, that they would be assassinated on the orders of the Duke of Edinburgh?

Would this be evidence of his own paranoia? If so, was it derived from his mother (either acquired by exposure or inherited via the genes), or subsequently planted and/or nurtured by his life partner?


How much of his mental vulnerability might be down to developing a taste for alcohol at a very early age?

From:
https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/childrens-health/should-my-child-drink-alcohol/

Drinking alcohol can damage a child's health, even if they're 15 or older. It can affect the normal development of vital organs and functions, including the brain, liver, bones and hormones.

Beginning to drink before age 14 is associated with increased health risks, including alcohol-related injuries, involvement in violence, and suicidal thoughts and attempts.

Drinking at an early age is also associated with risky behaviour, such as violence, having more sexual partners, pregnancy, using drugs, employment problems and drink driving.


Did he become an alcoholic in his very early teens?

(Crack Babies sound rather sweet - does that suggest anything? In my youth, one started on `bitter', a well-hopped beer. The drier, more astringent, the sherry/wine one drank, the more sophisticated/`grown-up' one was; having very sweet drinks, especially on the wrong occasion, was always very infra dig. Don't get me started on alcopops!)
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Babycham for megs then 😉
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
I don't recall us talking about H's frequent excuse for flying by PJ/leaving the UK - namely that he feared for the `safety' of his family.

What exactly was he afraid of?
_____

Indeed.

I've said it many times, H is stoned out of his mind much of the time. You only have to look at him.

What's more, I think people know it.

The question is, why do people accept it? And pay money for it?
Magatha Mistie said…

@JennS

Or Alcihaz and Guantanameg 😬

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
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re Alcihaz and Guantanameg

Are they proposed nicknames for the duo when they are, at last, jailbirds?
Magatha Mistie said…

@Lt. Nyota

A joke
Alcatraz and Guantanamo
H&M need locking up.
I was about to say there's an interesting article in the Telegraph here:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/05/21/back-princess-diana-interview-give-martin-bashir-clear-runbbcs/

Back off from Princess Diana interview to give Martin Bashir a ‘clear run’, BBC royal editor told

Nicholas Witchell, he who was discombobulated live-to-camera about Archie's `birth', tried to set up a straightforward interview with Diana, all above board, but was obliged to give way to Bashir because his interview had to be hush-hush, without KP knowing.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ Magatha Mistie,

Oh, okay, thanks :)

I get it now :)

Here is something I just saw on LSA:

Solitaire5 said:
Is that her? If so she’s conjuring the devil. I don’t know any other way she got her hooks into Harry. Yes, I know he’s the dumb one but that was luck and witchcraft.

Just luck. Harry was trying hard to get someone's hooks in him but all his targets took a hard pass. The fact that it took a Meghan to say yes shows how hard up he was and what a terrible investment.
______

Would like a comment ...

Magatha Mistie said…

Thanks @WildBoar
Holloway would have been perfick

@Magatha

- Oh yes!!! (to be said in Derek Guyler-like tones by That Bulldog!)

Megsy really goes for the Babycham!

Do we need to explain the reference and the pun (known only to Brits of a certain age?)


Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Just luck. Harry was trying hard to get someone's hooks in him but all his targets took a hard pass. The fact that it took a Meghan to say yes shows how hard up he was and what a terrible investment.
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

“Nothing Sparkles like a Babycham”
hahahaha 😉
Magatha Mistie said…

No worries @Lt. Nyota 😊
@ Magatha

Dartmoor would be perfick, given that the building's owned by the Duchy.

Now it only takes Category C prisoners - white-collar, non-violent - so that might rule out H. In the old days, breaking granite in a quarry, under an armed guard with a rifle, would have given him something complain about, even if the `security' was good.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
A comment on LSA:

Moving to the United States and insisting on people calling you by a British title that was gifted, not earned, is vulgar. Most Americans are gonna laugh behind your back, if not to your face depending on where you're at. Add to that the fact that they seem to be on a former employer slander tour, while at the same time desperately trying to get said former employer to acknowledge them... well, it's all just very sad.
I was thinking `Babycham and Sham baby'

@ Lt Nyota Uhura-

It's so reassuring to know what American's really think - thank you.
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
@ Lt Nyota Uhura-

It's so reassuring to know what American's really think - thank you.
______

Indeed, it's true. We Americans tend to be teenagers, in the scheme of things. But, in this case, with the Harkles, we have the measure.

I love the metaphor of "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!!" from the Wizard of Oz.

:)
Maneki Neko said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis replying to @AnT


"Victimization and self-pity seem to be the new wealth and coinage of celebrity."

So right! The problem is that the psychiatrist's couch/ psychotherapist's office have been replaced by the TV studio and any confidences are to be broadcast nationwide if not worldwide.
Maneki Neko said…
@Hikari

Re Archie's first words, you're forgetting crocodile and hydrate ;-)
@magatha

Thinking about Holloway gaol - otherwise known as `The Castle on the Hill' to the locals.

It would have been ideal for Megsy. Thanks for that thought.

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Maneki Neko said...
@Jocelyn'sBellinis replying to @AnT


"Victimization and self-pity seem to be the new wealth and coinage of celebrity."

So right! The problem is that the psychiatrist's couch/ psychotherapist's office have been replaced by the TV studio and any confidences are to be broadcast nationwide if not worldwide.
_____

LIFE ... seems to be too hard for people.

Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Babycham, “By George, she’s got it!”

Dartmoor, “even if the security was good”
brilliant 👏

Nelo said…
Seems TOM SYKES of the Daily Beast is no longer a sugar
https://www.thedailybeast.com/if-prince-harry-wants-reconciliation-why-does-he-keep-trashing-the-royal-family
Magatha Mistie said…

@JennS

Haz is pa-rtial to test tube babies 😳


Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Alcihaz & Guantanameg! 😆


@Wild Boar

Babycham & sham baby! 🤣 (does Babycham still exist?)
Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki

He was confused, with the high-rate
mama charges...

Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki

I don’t know, my mum has a couple
of “Babycham glasses” leftover
from the 60’s!
WildBoar mentioned Crack babies drinks,
and my immediate thought was megs,
Babycham, sham on me 😉
Magatha Mistie said…

Beyond a Treasonable Doubt

Removing their royal handles
Due to increasing scandals
Would shut up the mare,
and her clown
The Fleet Street hacks
Could then reveal all their facts
A reckoning for both them,
and the Crown


Magatha Mistie said…
Sorry, bit late with

Friday night Singalong!!
Apologies to “My Bonnie” 🎶

Daft Harry “lies” over the ocean
Daft Harry cries on the TV
Daft Harry so full of emotion
Has committed the worst perfidy

Don’t bring back
Don’t trigger an attack
Don’t bring back daft Haz, heresy

@Magatha & @Maneki

Or, as controversial painter Francis Bacon used to say when dishing out the effervescent product of the vine:

`Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!'


O/T
`Babycham - the Genuine Champagne Perry' - Yes, it's still available, surprisingly. Or perhaps not, given contemporary taste. I had it once, out of curiosity - that was enough. It's got sweetness but it's not balanced by acids or tannins. That's pears for you.

Even commercial ciders have gone down the drain (or should have done - artificial sweeteners that one can taste. Ugh) Even a once-respected cider maker who shall be nameless produces an `original' cider but don't be fooled -it doesn't mean traditional but they had the `original idea' of mixing it with perry - very peculiar taste. On a par with Meg's originality.

Luckily, we have orchards near us which produce their own cider of first rate quality. A real Proper Job.
Ava C said…
@Nelo - thanks for the Tom Sykes in the Daily Beast link. He encapsulates what puzzles me the most:

But it seems increasingly odd that Harry is unable to talk about the undoubted trauma of his very public childhood grief without humiliating, embarrassing, and shaming his father, while simultaneously boasting of his own sense of “compassion.”

Each time H delivers a primetime grenade at the royal family he follows it by saying he thought it would help reconciliation. He seems surprised it didn't work. Then he does it again. And again. It's as if someone came up and punched you and then is mystified that you don't want to give them a hug. It can't be stupidity as no one is THAT stupid (funny - autocorrect just capitalised that word for me - must be as fed-up as I am).

I'm definitely into cult territory now. H is a fully paid-up member of a cult and his wife and her little helpers now occupy the space where his brain used to be. What there was of it. No point trying to deal with him. No point trying to get through to him. Unless you're prepared to send the SAS to extract him from the Montecito enclave you may as well give up now.

Time will win the battle in the end. In the last 24 hours or so H has thrown happy people back into their sad places, pushed depressed people closer to the edge, renewed trauma for those who have battled PTSD and terminally bored everyone else. Is anyone going to want to repeat this at regular intervals, just to replace 12-year-old Master Harry Windsor's allowance? His Papa took it away for perfectly good reasons you know.
The Cat's Meow said…
@Magatha Mistie -- BEST ONE EVER (Parody of My Bonnie)
Fifi LaRue said…
Apparently Oprah needs sensationalism to keep herself relevant.
Fifi LaRue said…
It's all about the money.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-57209151

Today's cartoon from Matt in the Telegraph - a couple sitting down for HM's Christmas Broadcast-

The screen announcement reads,

`This programme contains strong language from the start.'
Acquitaine said…
@Ava C said…
"@Nelo - thanks for the Tom Sykes in the Daily Beast link. He encapsulates what puzzles me the most:

But it seems increasingly odd that Harry is unable to talk about the undoubted trauma of his very public childhood grief without humiliating, embarrassing, and shaming his father, while simultaneously boasting of his own sense of “compassion.”"

Based upon his articles, Tom Sykes hates or seriously dislikes Willuam and Charles. He has been a No 6 cheerleader if only because no 6 seemed to be showing them up. He extended his cheerleading to the wife.

It's been interesting to watch him try to justify the No 6s' actions over the past year. It's clear he disapproves, but his wish to avoid praising William or Charles in any way is creating a struggle that results in flip flopping wishy washy opinion articles.

If he has finally come down on the side of no 6 be crazy then the No 6s are doomed because The Daily Beast has been such a strong support in the American media.
Caniche said…
Just seen this : "Life will throw stones on your path and you can use them to build either walls or bridges " Anyone listening in Montecito?
CookieShark said…
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CookieShark said…
@ Ava

"Each time H delivers a primetime grenade at the royal family he follows it by saying he thought it would help reconciliation. He seems surprised it didn't work. Then he does it again. And again. It's as if someone came up and punched you and then is mystified that you don't want to give them a hug."

*********************
You are spot on with this. She can't recognize boundaries, or is determined to gatecrash them. In an interview I believe while she was on Suits, she describes "Not taking no for an answer"
This is a benign thing to say usually, and most people think it indicates being determined. But it is much more sinister in her case. I have read she tried to hug the person who led the meeting about her sorority bullying case, and that person told her to wipe the smirk off of her face.
There are also reports that she was not expected to be at Trooping 2019, but she showed up with her attorney. This is why she and JH were squished into a carriage with Kate & Camilla.
Girl with a Hat said…
I read somewhere that Hairy thinks that since he was being "nice" all his life and it didn't get him what he wanted, he is trying to be "strong" and he thinks that this tactic will help him succeed in his aspirations. He is probably being told this by his equally vile half.
Girl with a Hat said…
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but during his diatribe against his family, Hairy often looks down and to his left. I've read that this is a sign of someone making things up and he does seem to do this during his more outrageous lies.
Mel said…
but was obliged to give way to Bashir because his interview had to be hush-hush, without KP knowing.
--------

Unquestionably honest, eh?
AnT said…
@AvaC,
I think your “cult of Meghan“ is very likely true. A mix of mythological, cult and religions really. Let’s look at it:

1) she has a messiah complex: she believes she is above others & should lead the US though she is a sick, talentless squib
2) she uses her “charm” offensive to gather people in
3) she has a rescue complex
4) enjoys acquiring alienated, weak disciples like the weeping makeup man and ill Harry, fawning dumb teen sugars for her cult
5) controls and isolates her victims
6) seeks to smite her “enemies” (non-worshipping people) with her righteous sword of lawyers
7) no one can sit on god’s throne but her, hence hidden children, broken husband, abandoned family all thrown out of her heaven
8) seeks to tell humanity how to live via bad poetry and word salad screeds
9) destroys in the name of herself and her cult, teaches her cult to destroy others in her name for not obeying her
10) her lies have become parables in her arsenal
11) those who do not accept the word of god Meghan will be dealt with by trolls, bots, lawyers
12) she cannot be addressed by her name Rachel, and henceforth shall be called Meghan in the world of Man
13) the daughter of an apparent virgin birth since we only see silent beatific Doria
14) her husband current Harry sprung fully formed from her demented forehead, as Athena sprang from Zeus
15) donations welcome! Give give give so we can keep the vast Montecito shrine open
16) eat of the avocado, you shall be one with her and healed of all things
17) the Child of god Meghan shall speak in fully formed sentences from birth, and grow apace
18) she shall wear the crowns, as is only right: her symbol is the green snake
19) her children will not be born of Man, but shall come to her through the holy bump and Chilean pipeline
20) you will worship no false gods over god Megan, and she will smash down false idols like the British Queen
🥑🐉🌳🥑🐉🌳🥑🐉🌳🥑🐉🌳🥑🐉🥑🐉🌳🥑🐉

AnT said…
@CookieShark,

The sound bite choice is telling, isn’t it?

There is a DM “exclusive” today about “Prince Harry’s relationship with his family hanging by a thread” and the DM is totally poking the bear by mixing the tale of H’s miserable sadness and horrible fearful life with images of his colorful sly partying days.
AnT said…
@Magatha Mistie,
“Frett Wussler”! “Harlot O’Hari”!

And.....I suppose that makes the house “Terrora”! 😱
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger AnT said...
@AvaC,
I think your “cult of Meghan“ is very likely true. A mix of mythological, cult and religions really. Let’s look at it:
_____

LOL hahahaha
CookieShark said…
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Magatha Mistie said...

Beyond a Treasonable Doubt

Removing their royal handles
Due to increasing scandals
Would shut up the mare,
and her clown
The Fleet Street hacks
Could then reveal all their facts
A reckoning for both them,
and the Crown
_____

Okay, so this one wins the Internet and everywhere else :)
Nelo said…
This former US adviser and diplomat believes Americans will turn on the Sussexes
https://www.thesun.ie/news/royal/7030025/americans-disloyal-prince-harry-lee-cohen/?s=08
xxxxx said…
Not Meghan Markle said...
I don't think Harry cares about anything at all, ever- not even himself. This guy is going through the motions. He's in the unique position where he has money, and if he didn't he'd be like any other screwed up human with a lack of morals and ethics walking this planet.

We are only seeing this guy because of his money. Remember that.


TRUE rating at 99% by moi. Most especially your last sentence
I've just found a note to myself, something I jotted down some time ago, from a Tv programme, ​with a view to following it up.

It says:

`Dr Stevens - All psychopaths are narcissists.

Low opinion of female intelligence.'


I suppose it was said in a discussion about serial killers and using female officers to do the interrogation - it worked with Harold Shipman - he was so angry at the insult that he gave himself away.

Now I've hardly started to investigate but one of the first things I found was this:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/spycatcher/201712/narcissist-or-psychopath-how-can-you-tell

Narcissist or Psychopath—How Can You Tell?
We hear the terms all the time, but what is the difference?


It's by Joe Navarro, the spycatcher we talked about a little while ago (`catching a foreign spy from the way he held a bunch of flowers'). It makes chilling reading.

Could it be that M is a full blown psychopath (which includes being a narcissist) but H is just a narcissist? Or or they each be both but to differing degrees?

From what we've been saying, it seems something more than narcissism. Was H a willing victim?

What do you think?

Unless we're medically qualified, we are not bound by professional ethics and are free to opine!
The Cat's Meow said…
Excellent opinion piece....very concise and uses may of the terms used here "Harkles" and "word salad."

https://nypost.com/2021/05/22/prince-harrys-mental-health-documentary-exposes-his-hypocrisy/

"We are watching an overgrown child throw an epic tantrum, and the point is unclear. Does Harry want to bring down the royal family? Prove he has something worth contributing? Does he even know what he wants? "
AnT said…
@Lt Nyota Uhura,
@Magatha Mistie,
😁😆

@CookieShark,
Absolutely agree with your assessment of her bizarre, socially bent behavior and cognitive dissonance. She was never told no or put in her place and if she didn’t get what she wanted she left (rings in the mail to Trevor after he couldn’t get her movie roles or Oscar tickets; cast off Thomas after he refused to disown his other children prior to her wedding show; the endless lies that crash into other lies). Don’t get me started on Doria. She and Megs always make me think of the Anjelica Huston-Annette Bening movie The Grifters about the mother-daughter grifting team —- since that came out in 1990, the decade Megs can’t leave behind, perhaps it was their blueprint after all.

@xxxxx
@Not Meghan Markle,
Wow that line is true and brilliant: “We are only seeing this guy because of his money. Remember that.” 👏👏👏 that line is going to come to mind every time I see his flushed whiskered face and glazed rat eyes from now on.
luxem said…
Hot Rob was interviewed by ENews "Daily Pop" recently. Here is part of the transcript related to the infamous O interview.

He said: “It’s so funny. Everybody thinks the interview is shot at my house and then my friend Ted Sarandos who runs Netflix, everybody thought they shot it at his house. Here’s my thing and I have no idea: I think they just plain old shot it at Oprah’s. I swear to you, and they just said it was a mystery location.”

Hot Rob is neighbors/friend with O. So is he trying to expose her or help her cover up where it really happened?

Read more at https://www.8days.sg/seeanddo/tvreviews/rob-lowe-says-his-sleepy-little-town-hasn-t-been-the-same-since-14863344
The Cat's Meow said…
@WBBM Yes, there are so many options and labels to choose from! Not a professional here....so I am free to discuss ;)

I think MM is more of a sociopath than a psychopath, frankly because it seems as if psychopaths are smarter. If she was a psychopath she would be more successful at her manipulative games. She would be less bound by emotion and probably would have lasted longer in the RF....and therefore would have had more long-term clout.

Who knows what Harry is. Just an extreme all-around mess.
AnT said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid,

Perhaps we are like the earliest people who watched human behavior closely because they noticed some odd things, then decided to create a way to study it, then began to form terminology for what they began to discover.

Those pioneers were not doctors yet either, but, maybe they were a bit like us! We watch our curious subjects prancing, scowling, weeping, bullying, and clutching pillows under clothing via modern video, that’s all.

To reply to your interesting psychopath-narcissist content and question .....I think I absolutely believe Megs is both to the highest degree, and I think Harry is both to a somewhat lesser degree. There is something seriously wrong with both of them. Their endless wave of bizarre blubbering attacks on the royals and others, while (apparently) expecting to be given a ransom of money and praise for beating upon the flesh of very old grandparents and shocked parents, is pretty clearly lunatic behavior. This feminist cries and has fits at the drop of a hat, then gets photographed beaming as if she is normal. He gibbers and sweats peevishly about abuse and fear into the desperate comeback camera of a past-it former tv hostess who worshipped and embraced king abuser and rapist Harvey Weinstein. A hostess by the way who earns billions trying to wring the truth out of people to shame others, while she lives a shady life for decades with her “steady beau Stedman” in the guest house with his racks of pretty clothes.

It’s a boatload of psychotic crap.

That said, I can also believe that they are working some plan for someone, if only as a distraction. They are both quite disposable — like two lunatic clowns hired to swallow and spit fire in the town square while a stealthy army raids breaks through the gates, 😉so to speak. Who knows. I do think both are psychotic enough and narcissistic enough to think they are the most important people in America and the saviors of the globe.

AnT said…
@The Cat’s Meow,

Very good point on sociopath versus psychopath. Hmmm.
Mel said…
Pondering this suicide thing a little further. One assumes that since she was pregnant at the time that the baby would die with her.

So just who is this motherless child that H would now be raising alone?
The surrogates child?

Did he just out them as using a surrogate?

Or did she mean she would suicide later, after the baby was born?

Almost seems like this is a made up story or something.
The Cat's Meow said…
@Mel Great catch! Have to go read those statements again...

LOL if your point is true and their "truth bomb" has instead exploded on their fake story...
Curiously said…
I just ended up in an LSA rabbit hole 😂 and came across this great post from back in Feb.

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-6747#post-69037623
Someone, apologies as I can't find the post now, asked what does H want? To bring down the Royal Family?

The answer may well be `Yes'.

He seems to be out for revenge, based on `his' interpretation of events in the 1980s & 90s but also, in conjunction with the wife, have the narcissist's belief that if they can't have what you have (money, mainly, but also position) they can legitimately deprive you of it by destroying it for you.

It's a common tactic of envious people, particularly narcissists. If you're in a court case with them, because they want money from you but you won't give in, they will try to clean you out by weaving and dodging to waste your money on the legal bills.

If you are the bride, or have to make a presentation to qualify for something, and involve them, they will do their damnedest to ruin the event for you, because they're not the centre of attention.
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`Motherless child' post suicide?

Archie?
Anonymous said…
@Cat’s Meow

Thanks for sharing the NYP column. I especially liked the final zinger:

Even Harry would have to admit the royals did one thing well: Their carefully crafted image of Harry — military man, good with kids, the lighthearted prince with a charitable soul — was far superior to this one.
@Cats Meow,
@WBBM,

As some of you know, I've been taking psychology classes in human behavior and interrogation techniques. My instructor is a former SEAL and a SEAL instructor and works at the highest level of government. He also trains people in SERE (Survival, Evasion Resistance, Escape) for the military.

He (and other well-respected behavior analysists) says that trying to put a psychological label on somebody without the background to do so usually results in a misdiagnosis. It takes years of special training, and it involves developing a baseline of of that person's behavior. It can take decades of study to be proficient.

It's incorrect to say that when a person turns their head to the right or left, up or down, that they are guilty or innocent. Those movements could be just the way that person moves, or maybe they had a crick in their neck, and it is not an indication of untruthfulness or truthfulness. It could be a movement that he uses every day. It could also be a sign of something psychological, but you won't know unless you do a detailed baseline study on him first. Sometimes, developing a quality baseline can take weeks or months of studying the subject.

He often says that in this field of study, a little knowledge is very dangerous, and that too many people read a few articles and think they know and understand body language. That's how false information is spread. I know that I have at least a decade of study ahead of me to become proficient. It is not a game. The terms are not to be thrown about lightly. It is a comprehensive study of the brain and body, and how it reacts to stress. It is psychology and physiology.

Psychologists don't even agree on the terms psychopathy and sociopathy. Some believe they are the same, some believe they are two different mental illnesses and others believe that psychopathy and sociopathy should be grouped under the term "antisocial personality disorder," a newish term in psychology.

@WMMB,

Joe Novarro has been around forever, and he's a highly respected body language analyst, but, because he's been doing this for so long and has written so many books, his older books are out of date. For example, Antisocial Personality Disorder wasn't even a psychological term when he began writing his books. The methods of determining what a body movement, or lack of one, means, has changed dramatically since he began writing his books. Most profilers revere him, but also know to use his more recent books and keep the older ones for reference.









AnT said…
@Jocelyn’sBellinis,
That sounds like a fascinating field of study — and you clearly have a top instructor. Wish the Harkles could be his “project” someday!

@Mel,
Great catch! Wow. They’ve never been able to keep track of their tales — they assume they will always be believed (or they will cry).
@AnT,

He IS a top behavior profiler. Other behavior profilers call him Jason Bourne because he did/does the same kind of work as the Jason Bourne character, especially with his SERE work. Same with the Mission Impossible movies. He is so physically fit that just touching him on the arm feels like you're touching cement. He's actually very sweet and he blushes when he receives a compliment. Ha! That's one that I'd put in his baseline study. Blushes when complimented.

He began his studies because he was there when Gitmo was in full swing and the atrocities he saw led him to believe there was a better way to interrogate without torture. That's when he left the Army and began studying behavior profiling and getting an advanced degree in psych. From there, he developed many ways of getting the information needed through the use of psychological techniques and the resultant body language after applying those techniques.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
@Cats Meow,
@WBBM,

As some of you know, I've been taking psychology classes in human behavior and interrogation techniques. My instructor is a former SEAL and a SEAL instructor and works at the highest level of government. He also trains people in SERE (Survival, Evasion Resistance, Escape) for the military.
______

The SEAL Museum at Fort Pierce, FL, has established its Memorial Gardem for this year's Memorial Day.
Mel said…
Isn't one of the characteristics of a suicide is that they're 100% unable psychologically to think about the impact of a suicide on others? All of their psychic energy is on the pain they're feeling in the moment? No energy left over to think of others.

Because if they were able to comprehend the pain a suicide would cause to other people, they wouldn't do it.

This whole story sounds made up, much like the miscarriage story. It's just how Mm thinks it would be, not that she has any experience with it. None of it feels real. Doesn't have the ring of truth.
Here's a freebee for all of the parents out there. You found chocolate milk spilled on your white living room carpet, and you know that one of your two children did it, but they deny it. Here's a quick way of discovering the culprit.

Put each child in a different room in the house and ask them separately what punishment should the child who spilled the chocolate milk receive. One will say that they should be made to do the dishes every night, no tv, no phone, take out the garbage for a month. The other says the child in question should stop drinking milk in the living room. Guess who's lying? This one's a no-brainer.
@Lt Uhura,

That's great! I'd love to visit the SEAL Museum sometime, but it's all the way across the country. I'll sure look it up online.
xxxxx said…
Rebecca said...
@Cat’s Meow
Thanks for sharing the NYP column. I especially liked the final zinger:
Even Harry would have to admit the royals did one thing well: Their carefully crafted image of Harry — military man, good with kids, the lighthearted prince with a charitable soul — was far superior to this one.


#6 sure booted this. What a disgrace that #6 went for this wife, this race baiting bomb thrower. He mouths what she tells him. I can only use the word that others have=---- Pathetic!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
@Lt Uhura,

That's great! I'd love to visit the SEAL Museum sometime, but it's all the way across the country. I'll sure look it up online.
______

The Frogmen will welcome you :)
SwampWoman said…
Jocelyn'sBellinis said: He often says that in this field of study, a little knowledge is very dangerous, and that too many people read a few articles and think they know and understand body language. That's how false information is spread. I know that I have at least a decade of study ahead of me to become proficient. It is not a game. The terms are not to be thrown about lightly. It is a comprehensive study of the brain and body, and how it reacts to stress. It is psychology and physiology.


I was in a meeting and was asked by the speaker if I felt threatened or whether I disagreed with the items being discussed because I had my arms close to my body and sometimes crossed. (He obviously did not know me but, having read a book on body language, thought that he did.) I just looked at him incredulously and pointed out that the room was somewhere in the mid-60s and I was freezing my ass (pronounced southern style with two syllables like God intended) completely off. But since he asked, I would appreciate it if he would get to the point of the meeting more quickly so that I could go outside and thaw out.

I *really* hate to have my time wasted in long-winded meetings that could be covered in a two paragraph E-mail. I hate those *almost* as much as those idiot team-building exercises where you are supposed to fall backwards and let your team members catch you or play other silly games. The best thing about being silver-haired is that I no longer feel the need to tolerate having my time wasted by idiots. I wonder what the psychological implications of that is?
SwampWoman said…
O/T for the gardeners out there: Have you used a Japanese garden weeding sickle, Nejiri Kama, for close work around small seedlings or flowers? My husband swears that I am going to end up in the ICU from a canebrake rattlesnake or water moccasin bite because I'm establishing a meadow of native wildflowers for our native birds and insects. So many acres are being razed for new construction that the native wildflower species are being eradicated as well as the birds and insects that feed on them. The sickle looks like a good way to trim closely while around the flowers; I'll use a scythe and snath for broad clearing.
O/T
@Swamp Woman:

Thanks for the tip about the Japanese sickle - I could do with one. Even our tree surgeon has given up chainsaws (far too dangerous) and uses Japanese hand tools. A chap in a neighbouring parish when we lived in Hampshire cut his own throat when one `jumped' and he died in his wife's arms.

One of the students on a local arborist course at the agric.college cut his femoral artery when on his chainsaw test - he survived by driving to hospital with the assessor holding the cut together. Mercifully, the hospital was fairly close by.

At least we don't have copperheads or the like!

More traumas to consider.
About that photo of #6's wife and "Archie" on the beach with "Archie" holding the blue ball thrower for dogs: Why does two-year-old "Archie" have a receding hairline?

Could it be possible that "Archie" looks so different every time is because she puts different wigs on him? I believe she's just crazy enough to do that.
Ava C said…
Someone in Lipstick Alley made the point that if M was indeed in need of support for mental health issues when the Sussexes say she was, they may not have been able to seek help because she may not actually have been pregnant.

My first thought was that support and treatment of that kind doesn't involve physical examination, but then if I was faking a pregnancy I wouldn't want to get into any 1:1 session with anyone in any profession (especially a lawyer!). You would also need to provide a due date and that seems to be the most top-secret aspect of both pregnancies.

What do other Nutties think of this possibility? I do think it's possible M was aware of mental health issues at the time (on top of the seemingly permanent ones she seems unaware of) simply because she was being criticised on a daily basis and she was being thwarted in her attempts to shut her critics down. Before then she had been such small fry people left her to her obnoxious self and just steered clear of her as much as possible. Daddy ironed out all her problems before that.

What we're seeing now is two middle-aged toddlers having the temper tantrum of all time. Their support networks have said good riddance and now they are in the hands of sharks interested only in money. Couldn't have happened to a nicer couple.
@WBBM,

Yes, that's a great example of a little knowledge being dangerous. I had the same sort of thing happen to me when I called the police on the caregiver who stole from my mother. He was standing in my living room, asking me questions and kind of swaying back and forth. I offered a chair for him to sit down, and he declined.

Later on, I asked him again if he would like to sit down, and he says to me,"Does my standing here make you nervous?" while glaring at me. I just shot him a look and said, "Not at all, but I was raised to always offer a seat to a guest in your home. It's the kindly thing to do." He backed down.

I also wanted to say, "Look, buddy, I called YOU. I'm the witness, not the criminal." Idiot.

Anonymous said…
@Swampwoman

canebrake rattlesnake or water moccasin

Two of the words (along with alligators, fire ants, killer spiders, jellyfish, sharks, hurricanes and humidity) that will prevent me from ever living in the South 😉
SwampWoman said…
O/T at Wild Boar Battle-maid: This is one (Japanese sickle) that I was looking at: https://garrettwade.com/product/professional-weeding-sickle
Mel said…
No, but I could see being that she's pregnant them wanting to do a cursory exam. Blood pressure, check for baby's heartbeat, etc.
AnT said…
@Jocelyn’sBellinis,

So now I am hoping you will write a book or documentary about your instructor. The stories he must have. Impressive he decided to find a better way to uncover answers than what was on the Gitmo menu. It’s wonderful you are able to learn from someone like this.
octobergirl said…
The charity event where Meghan wore the blue sequined dress is one of the events they were booed at. I suspect that upset Meghan more than anything. Harry had plenty of contacts in the mental health field if Meghan was that bad off at the time , why wouldn't he reach out to someone?

One thing I've noticed about Meghan and Harry is that all of their problems are ALWAYS somebody else's fault. Someone else is ALWAYS to blame. It's almost sociopathic.

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@AnT,

There are so many things that he can't talk about. They're classified. I'd love to find out all that he knows, but that would never happen. Even his wife doesn't know. Also, he's very humble. He doesn't like talking about himself, and although he dresses right out of GQ, and is really cute, he just kind of bows his head in embarrassment if he is the center of attention.

However, during the classes or during training, he's all business.
@AvaC -

That's a very good point indeed about her having to conceal her true physical state from medical professionals - at some stage they'd have to have wanted to check her over. Were she truly pregnant, there'd be no problem. Otherwise - whoops!

Did she even mention the suicidal feelings to to H at the time?

I thought H looked like the tense one at the blue sequin dress event - did he realise the booing was for him/them whereas she couldn't imagine anyone booing her? Her story is very far from convincing.

Nothing is ever the fault of a narc.

Shall we crack open the Babycham when the next `birth' is announced?

@Swampwoman - thanks for the extra info about the sickle - I'll see if it's available on the British market. Chief danger in my garden is Lyme Disease - I picked it up a couple of years ago when weeding. I hadn't got my glasses on when I saw the tick & thought it was just a scab. I recognised the rash though and saw our GP's nurse pdq and was given antibiotics. Our GPs themselves deny that it's in the area, even when confronted by the evidence. I didn't do entomology for nothing - I even dug the mouthparts out of my arm and checked them under the microscope.

So fellow Nutties, be aware - we have foxes and sometimes badgers in the garden and I've seen deer less then 100 yards away, for all that we're surrounded by houses.
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Blogger Rebecca said...
@Swampwoman

canebrake rattlesnake or water moccasin

Two of the words (along with alligators, fire ants, killer spiders, jellyfish, sharks, hurricanes and humidity) that will prevent me from ever living in the South 😉


You forgot brain-eating amoebas, flesh-eating bacteria, and Zika, encephalitis, West Nile Virus, and Dengue-fever carrying mosquitoes!
I don’t think this Blind Gossip piece has been posted...but I believe it’s H and M...

https://blindgossip.com/she-is-a-velociraptor/#respond

She Is A Velociraptor

This actress is a Velociraptor.
Her famous husband doesn’t even realize it.

There is an Actress who is a Velociraptor. She is not very big and does not look especially fearsome. But she is strategizing and misdirecting and playing a vicious long game.

She has somehow convinced her husband – who is part of a very famous family – that talking about his personal problems and criticizing his family in public is healthy for him and helpful to others.

Under the guise of caring about him, she has already gotten him to admit things in public that were kept quiet by his family for decades.


This reminds us of a couple of stories we have told you in the past.

There’s the one about a famous son who participated in an particularly problematic binge involving drugs and alcohol. His family allegedly pulled him home and dispatched an entire team to go door to door in a large city to gather any evidence that he had engaged in illegal activity. Then his family made him go through rehab.

Then there’s the one about the famous son who allegedly expressed his anger issues by beating up s*x workers. Those incidents were handled in a way to ensure that the son was not criminally charged and that everyone kept quiet.

So while having a troubled family member usually means solving the problem as quietly as possible, Actress did exactly the opposite. She encouraged her husband to talk about his problems in public. Was this to help him?

No. It was to help her. She set him up for the kill and he went along because he isn’t very bright.

He just admitted to three serious issues (alcohol abuse, drug addiction, and anger issues) in a public forum AND admitted that all of these issues have occurred in the past few years. That was really dumb.


Why?

She can now plausibly claim that he still has these problems and that he has engaged in these same behaviors around her (and the children?).

All it takes is documentation. Diary entries, emails and texts to friends, photos of a hole punched in a wall or a bruised arm, a copy of a letter she gave to him begging him to stop.


That’s not all. She could use his confessions to hurt his family, too.
He has told her how his family bailed him out of bad situations in the past. If she publicly disclosed exactly what he did and how they did, it would mean scandal and legal problems for both him and his family.

The bottom line?

She successfully set him up and he fell for it. She even got him to testify against himself in public. He doesn’t even realize what he’s done.

Now she now has enough leverage against him and his family to do whatever she wants, whenever she wants.

She can keep him in the marriage forever or force a huge settlement from both him and his family whenever she is ready to go.


He thinks that the Velociraptor is his loving partner.

He is actually her lunch.

Stupid boy.

Clever girl.
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Teasmade said…
@SwampWoman and Rebecca: Pythons
Maneki Neko said…
@JennS

I've just read your assessment of H & M and I agree wholeheartedly with you. I too think the witch is the malevolent one. And I took have a degree of sympathy for H, although he's behaved despicably. When he talks, he spouts psychobabble nonsense that sounds like it's straight out of M's mouth. He's just the ventriloquist's dummy.

I think he is so manipulated by the witch that he doesn't even realise it and I have said in some post that I think he's depressed. I suffered from severe depression at one stage and I can recognise the condition, although obviously in this case I haven met H. I hope the witch's actions won't be such that he'll end up committing suicide.

You said "I realize I probably stand alone here on Nutty's blog in having sympathy for Harry but I just think Markle is far more seriously deranged and quite possibly - evil." You're not alone, @JennS, I feel exactly the same. Who knows what will happen when the baby is born/delivered.
AnT said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

That blind item........ no doubt, no doubt.

Thanks for posting it. What do you think will happen next?

My thought: the V in this case sounds like she thinks has it made, and she does in a way, but she doesn’t realize royal properties have cameras, and more.
Maneki Neko said…
@Raspberry Ruffle

I think you're right and that the velociraptor is our Megalo! 🦖
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AnT said, That blind item........ no doubt, no doubt.

Thanks for posting it. What do you think will happen next?

My thought: the V in this case sounds like she thinks has it made, and she does in a way, but she doesn’t realize royal properties have cameras, and more.


Lady C said that the Sussex’s had cards they could play...but so do the royals. I think the royal family may have to play a rather different kind of game now to shut V down. Oh I wish I had a crystal ball...


@Maneki Neko,

It simply has to be her! :o)
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@Ava C
Personally, I believe all these stories of suicidal ideation, miscarriage, and the pap harassment are a setup for Season 2 of the Apple TV series.

Rache is damaged goods so H has to launch the series and he needs to do some damage control so she can be at the center in future seasons. H is forcing a change in public opinion that Rache was why he's looked miserable and like a hostage since they got together. Now Rache is the savior of his mental health, so he establishes her as an ambassador of mental health over himself. It is no longer Wills that helped him as he disclosed to Bryony Gordon in 2017. His contradictory story is self-serving for more reasons. It takes a swipe at the Cambridges as ambassadors of their U.K. mental health initiatives. Additionally, the Sussexes establish themselves as competitors of the Cambridges for donations to mental health initiatives.

Rache & H have nothing to market without the BRF. They've picked mental health because it's one of the most lucrative causes and they can directly link it to their royal life and connections. Whether the titles stay or go, they establish themselves as ambassadors of mental health because once upon a time, they were royal.

Mental health causes appeal to people of every age, race, gender, culture, and socioeconomic background. Ultimately, the more wallets you can open, the more money you can collect. Whether real people's mental wellness can be supported and achieved through allocating money and resources to these causes is another matter.
AnT said…
@charade,
Unfortunately for the world, and legitimate organizations dealing with mental health issues, I think you’re probably right about the Harkles using these tales of experiences to line up a future season of Apple Plus specials and a future lifeline of donations. It is a cash cow, and they know it. I will continue to hope their scam is laid open before more harm is done.


@JennS,
I can understand your feelings about Harry being the lesser of the two evils, so to speak. He doesn’t seem bright, he seems like a substance abuser, he seems to swallow all the nonsense Megs/others feed him. But I take the full measure of Harry now, and consider some of the alleged past behavior tales that bob around out there, and his unending attacks of late. He is not comatose. He just walked with a funeral cortège. He just saw pain in the eyes of family. And I hold him equally responsible for bringing in the assassin, not throwing her out early on regardless of the “dirt” she may have, and most of all, for not looking at Catherine and his brother and willingly letting his poisonous wife to continue to cause them pain. He looks at Catherine, he knows she was a supportive sister to him; he knows what he’s done. But like a guilty spoiled brat he is using whining and finger-pointing and created excuses, all revved up to worldwide level, as his version of covering his ears as he attacks his family for coins. He is not a motherless boy. He is a remorseless, soulless man with his hand on the knife, too.


AnT said…
@JennS,

Obviously I have no idea what they may have in terms of video, sound, photos, emails etc, Or the staff bullying. But my connection has said for awhile he’s heard there is something. More than something. I suppose keep waiting for the day she is suddenly packed and gone.
JennS said…
@AnT and Nutties
Check it out - News from Hot💋Rob about the Harkles! He was interviewed by Daily POP - if you will remember that was the show we thought was claiming Doria had been caught taking photos at Buck Palace!

💋E-online has an exclusive article about his interview and also has the video.

💋Apparently, the rumor got back to him that folks (like us!) thought the interview was filmed at his house!

💋In this interview, the hosts ask him about seeing the Sussexes around, has he had them over to his house...and he tells them he has seen Harry driving once! I assume he is referring to the ponytail sighting!

LMAO!!!!

💋If Rob still isn't seeing them then where the heck are those Loch Ness Monsters?
You have to watch the clip at the link I pasted below ... Rob is very diplomatic when saying the Harkles keep a low profile!🤣


💋Here are excerpts from the article:

Rob Lowe Finally Reveals if Prince Harry & Meghan Markle's Oprah Interview Was at His House

The new Brat Pack?

Rob Lowe has officially been neighbors with Prince Harry and Meghan Markle for quite some time now, but is Montecito big enough for all three of them? The 9-1-1 Lone Star actor exclusively revealed on E! News' Daily Pop today (May 21) what he really thinks of the royals moving in.

"They definitely have brought a lot of attention to my sleepy little town," Lowe explained of his Southern California home for 26 years. "Let me tell you something, once the royals move into your neighborhood, the neighborhood is never going to be the same."

Meghan and Harry live "over the fence" from Lowe's first house in the area, and while the couple "keep a low profile," Lowe has crossed paths with the A-listers. "I saw Harry once driving," Lowe remembered.

Of course the royals aren't the only high-profile residents of the beach town. "When Oprah moved in, that began the sort of resurgence of Montecito," Lowe admitted. "Now that the royals are here: The good news is property values go up, the bad news is the line is longer at Starbucks."

Daily Pop co-host Kym Whitley had to ask about the rumors: Was the shocking Harry and Meghan interview with Oprah Winfrey really filmed at Lowe's house?

"It's so funny. Everybody thinks the interview is shot at my house and then my friend Ted Sarandos who runs Netflix, everybody thought they shot it at his house," Lowe laughed. "Here's my thing and I have no idea: I think they just plain old shot it at Oprah's. I swear to you, and they just said it was a mystery location."

https://www.eonline.com/news/1272150/rob-lowe-finally-reveals-if-prince-harry-meghan-markles-oprah-interview-was-at-his-house
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@JennS,

Hot Rob returns to the fray! He’s so awesome. I swear I think he knows something’s funny at 🌋Mudslide Manor.

I have decided to take his comment about Oprah’s house🏰as a hint. A little sweet hint-y poo about you know who. Right now, barefoot Harry is padding barefoot through Oprah’s kitchen looking for the chips and Cheetos.
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AnT said...

............. But my connection has said for awhile he’s heard there is something. More than something. I suppose keep waiting for the day she is suddenly packed and gone.

I hope what your connection said it true.

I hope that the recent appointment of ex-MI5 chief Andrew Parker as new Lord Chamberlain has something to do with it in that, investigations can be done without raising lots of suspicion from reporters and the media.

Please, I hope the royal family has pulled their heads out of the sand and be more pro-active.
AnT said…
@JennS,
Absolutely understand why you and others give Harry the benefit of the doubt. And you are entitled to that feeling of course, and have the personal experience of your relatives to consider with both Harry, and depression.. I have been feeling fed up and ultra harsh with them both this week, so there’s that shading my feelings. I find I am tired of all the excuses available to harmful or hateful people in general. What about their victims?

I hope I am proved wrong, and you are right in your faith, and that one day he hangs his head and makes amends at some point. I feel terrible for the Queen, in any case. She shouldered an enormous demanding burden without complaint as a very young woman, and has to deal with this from two middle-aged brats.

I suppose I will think of her as my grandmother at the same age, but She is going through this onslaught of death of husband, attack by grandson, mess of son... it makes me feel quite hard-hearted.

AnT said…
@JennS,
Perhaps you can request a beach interview with Hot Rob for a story you are writing for a fascinating international blog....run by an international journalist.....and you can find out more! I agree, Hit Rob does this Harkle referencing with a tongue in cheek air in a delightfully subtle way. And yes, he is pleasantly doubling down on his Harry sighting news! I love it 🥰


@Natalier,
I hope so too. I know my connection has legitimate long-term contacts, so I hold hope. We’ll see.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
She successfully set him up and he fell for it. She even got him to testify against himself in public. He doesn’t even realize what he’s done.

Now she now has enough leverage against him and his family to do whatever she wants, whenever she wants.

She can keep him in the marriage forever or force a huge settlement from both him and his family whenever she is ready to go.


He thinks that the Velociraptor is his loving partner.

He is actually her lunch.

Stupid boy.

Clever girl.
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The thing is, the Velociraptor doesn't even know she IS one.



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Snarkyatherbest said…
Not sure why the brf would have to give her a big settlement. They left (or were kicked out) and the distancing is so obvious. They know they can’t pay her enough to shut her up so I go with raspberry ruffle they prob have to goods on her so it’s a stand off. If they don’t have archie that is the winning card for the BRF.
So if the BG blind is true-ish, does that make Oprah (and possibly Gayle) complicit in the whole thing? That would certainly sink their careers (tied to blackmailing the BRF isn't going to do anyone any good).

perhaps the BRF have the receipts from the alleged double charging of clothes. JM gets them for free, MM marches them (gets paid to wear them) and then sends PC the bill as if said clothes were bought. Bring on the IRS for that one!

Perhaps, as rumoured quite a while ago, she has taken (i.e. permanently borrowed) some of Diana's jewelry that was NOT Harry's to give her?

I don't think its the whole bullying thing as that pales compared to someone beating s*x workers for jollies.

The Queen doesn't deserve this. Shame on Harry and his wife.
@Lt. Uhura,

"The frogmen will welcome you."

Hahahaha!

Now I have an urge to go check the beach to see if any frogmen are about. It could be my instructor, angry that I'm discussing him online.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
@Lt. Uhura,

"The frogmen will welcome you."

Hahahaha!

Now I have an urge to go check the beach to see if any frogmen are about. It could be my instructor, angry that I'm discussing him online.
_____

Hahahahaha he'll get over it, no worries, :)
AnT said…
@JennS,
I agree that she is hands down the worst of the two of them. We’ll always have that common ground! 😁
The swings....the wavy haired rental four-year-old child swinging with the rented legs of a stranger, in footage that looks like it’s been buried in a drawer since someone’s vacation to an Iowa park in 1963.


@Snarkyatherbest,
@MustySyphone,
I think the blind suggests the payoff would be to silence her about the.BRF covering up for Harry’s aggression on sex workers while he was a soldier — I doubt anyone would care that he partied in Vegas. They can never shut her up though, so they might as well let her spill and take their knocks, or ignore it as craziness, or spill the dumpster of info they have on her. I think they’d be crazy to pay her a penny. She is too predictable at this point. I would like to think the BRF can simply get her for treason (Archie not born of her body) when they are ready.

AnT said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis,
@Lt, Nyota Uhura,

Ha! Now I am imagining you, Jocelyn’sBellinis, sidling up soundlessly to your rock-hard instructor after class, and murmuring, “Alpha Alpha Tango, the thing is, I am with a group of underground rebels unlocking the truth about annoying royal earwigs Meghan Markle and Prince Harry...we meet nightly to share our research, it isn’t easy, it’s often messy, but....I believe we’re about to save the world, Sir! Are you in?”

And he looks at you with a long and steady gaze, and his world weary steely eyes seem to drill into your soul and finally he glances around and then he growls, “Nutty Tango Tango, JB baby, I have been trailing you online for three weeks and utilized my sophisticated triad of mind knowledge to get you to invite me into your world — let’s chop these skeeters off America’s front porch! Hoo-yah!”
@Lt. Uhura,

I know. I was kidding. He's really a sweet guy. Lots of compassion for people. I would never fear him, unless I was being interrogated by him, which will be coming up soon (practice interrogation.). I have to be interrogated by him, and, a long time from now, I have to interrogate him! The same as upper level psych students have to go through therapy as a part of getting their advanced degree.

He does the same jaw clenching that Prince William does. When he was speaking about a child molester, his jaw was clamped so tightly shut and grinding from pure disgust/anger, that I'm surprised he hasn't chipped some back teeth. Same with William through this whole Harkle saga.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
@Lt. Uhura,

I know. I was kidding. He's really a sweet guy. Lots of compassion for people. I would never fear him, unless I was being interrogated by him, which will be coming up soon (practice interrogation.). I have to be interrogated by him, and, a long time from now, I have to interrogate him! The same as upper level psych students have to go through therapy as a part of getting their advanced degree.

He does the same jaw clenching that Prince William does. When he was speaking about a child molester, his jaw was clamped so tightly shut and grinding from pure disgust/anger, that I'm surprised he hasn't chipped some back teeth. Same with William through this whole Harkle saga.
______

William is a man. And a King.
Petunia said…
Off with their heads. How dare they ontinue to upset HM with their lies?
@AnT

Agree. 100%.

Reading what you posted, it occurred to me. If its stuff he did when he was in the military, well then, the BRF couldn't oversee him the military was in charge (yes we all know he had his own personal six man SAS team guarding him at all times).

Interesting times ahead.
@WMMB,

We're getting more and more coyotes coming down from the mountains here due to overbuilding. My town is very small, so we've set up a text/email/ phone call buddy system to get the info out fast to make sure that pets and small children are indoors.

I'll get a text from my "coyote buddy," saying "coyote sighting at 3rd and Beach Street." Then I text my coyote buddy to pass the info along. Within about 20 minutes, the entire town knows, along with updates if the coyote has moved to a new area of town. "Coyote now spotted at 6th and State Street moving south."

That's what I love about small towns. People look out for each other.
@JennS

Thank you, you've summed it up perfectly or me. She is evil, he was the willing dupe. Inherent stupidity and resentment, plus, probably, a substance-abused brain. I can understand depression as I`m prone to it at a lesser level, I see it as part nature, part nurture.

For me, what rang my alarm bells/lit up my warning lights in the first place was what she said :

`Modernise the Monarchy' and the badly-judged remarks about the EU.


`Modernise?' I thought. `Does she mean destroy?'

That issue has been around for decades.

The received wisdom is that although the Monarchy is seen as archaic, irrelevant and expensive in some quarters, any attempt to bring it into the second half of the 20th century (from the viewpoint of the 1950s, when the question was first mooted!) or the rest of the 21st has to be done very delicately.

It's that mystique thing. Doing it clumsily is counter-productive (`It's a Knock Out' anyone? That was Anne and Edward's doing, intensely embarrassing all round.) It must be subtle.

The greatest credit has to go to the Duke of Edinburgh, the unsung hero of careful modernisation. Yes, the family has some unusual customs, like the curtseying to each other, but I imagine it's as automatic as the ritual actions of Catholicism - like making the Sign of the Cross or genuflecting to the Blessed Sacrament. No big deal to do but odd to outsiders.

(I've just had a thought about the tights business - in the last few months, my age has begun to show in my legs and who wants to show off their veins? `Support hose?' has been whispered. Normalise wearing tights at all ages and nobody is embarrassed by being the odd-one-out when camouflage is called for. It's called `courtesy'.)

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Her opinion on Britain's relationship to the EU.

Whatever she might have said on the subject, whichever way the vote had gone, it risked alienating half the population as the issue was still a very sore subject for many people.

She clearly knew b----r all about the issues and royal neutrality - and cared even less, because she repeated herself in another form. That was when I asked myself `Has anyone put her up to it? If so, who?'

I was seriously worried and had to hope that she was prepared to learn. I still can't escape the uncomfortable feeling that there's more to it than `just' a criminal conspiracy, involving Doria and Markus.

Is a person, or persons, unknown intent on fomenting revolution for their own ends, whether from a Marxian ideology or similar creed, or from capitalist greed? If so, are they still at it?

Who else remembers Paul Burrell claiming that, at the time of Diana's death, that HM had said to him `There are dark forces at work'? Unlikely as that story seems, it suggests that the Palace is well aware of the threats to our Constitution.

If there are parallels with the Fall of Troy, Harry being a ready-made wooden horse, does that make me Cassandra? I've certainly felt like her when friends have said `Give her a chance!'
Maneki Neko said…
I saw a photo of the Queen yesterday in a red coat. She is said to be very upset by H's comments about Charles's parenting. The comments were uncalled for and loathsome but I don't think he ever had these thoughts until the witch put him up to it. What does she do, does she send him subliminal messages while he's asleep? I think he's in so deep that he can't get out.

It saddens me to see that photo, the Queen has lost weight, her coat hangs off her and her face is thinner.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/05/22/16/43312003-9607279-image-a-8_1621697520691.jpg
@WBBM,

There are a couple of things you can do for varicose veins. Both are a pain, but if it really bothers you, why not?

One is to use body makeup, the kind Hollywood uses that will cover the veins. The other one is surgery or laser treatments.

I'm not at the varicose vein age yet (getting close, though), but I've decided to go natural in my old age. I really don't care enough about my veins showing to bother doing anything about it. I'll just wear jeans or trousers if it bothers me. Also, long summer dresses.

That's the beauty of growing older. You reach the stage when you just don't care what others think of you.
@Jocelyn'sBellinis -

Thanks for the suggestions, if it every gets warm enough again, I'll try the make-up. I suspect I'm in for support hose though.

Otherwise, I'll stick to trousers I think! I shan't be meeting royalty in the near future.


@Maneki Neko - I'm not surprised HM has lost weight.

Wearing red's a good idea - it's a `stimulating' colour - worn by many winning football (soccer) teams.

Also in the animal world, it's a warning colour - it says `Don't mess with me! Or else...!'

Very appropriate I'd say.
Wow! I just found this:

"Signaling Virtuous Victimhood as Indicators of Dark Triad Personalities"

It's nearly 2 a.m., and this study is long, but it describes #6's wife to a t:

https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/2020-ok.pdf

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
The received wisdom is that although the Monarchy is seen as archaic, irrelevant and expensive in some quarters, any attempt to bring it into the second half of the 20th century (from the viewpoint of the 1950s, when the question was first mooted!) or the rest of the 21st has to be done very delicately.

It's that mystique thing. Doing it clumsily is counter-productive (`It's a Knock Out' anyone? That was Anne and Edward's doing, intensely embarrassing all round.) It must be subtle."
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I'm probably one of about 10 Americans who even remembers that program, much less embarrassed by it ... poor Edward, he really woke up after that, I think.

But yes. One needs a fine sense of the mystique of the royal family in order to fully understand its appeal throughout history. For M to claim "modernizing" is not only hilarity, but also futility. No one can "modernize" the royal family, any more than one can "modernize" a conversation.

M is a weird kind of creature.

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
Wow! I just found this:

"Signaling Virtuous Victimhood as Indicators of Dark Triad Personalities"

It's nearly 2 a.m., and this study is long, but it describes #6's wife to a t:

https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/2020-ok.pdf
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Wow. So much to unpack there.

Thanks.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ Jocelyn'sBellinis

"...people who would be described by those
who know them as virtuous. However, just as there are honorable
people who experience misfortune, there are also those who might
feign both suffering and virtue to get something they want. Even
if emitting a false signal works only occasionally, the signaler can
still benefit, particularly if they emit the signal to observers who
are not well positioned to verify its accuracy or are unmotivated to
do so.


Jeeze. Wow.
@ Lt. Uhura,

It's almost spooky how this study perfectly describes #6's wife. They describe every stunt that she's pulled. Keep reading. It gets better and better.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
@ Lt. Uhura,

It's almost spooky how this study perfectly describes #6's wife. They describe every stunt that she's pulled. Keep reading. It gets better and better.
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It is way past spooky.

The thing is, I really can't stand her anymore. She makes me so past sick that I know I should be on top of this, on behalf of the Royal Family, but ...

Eh, I guess I should go to sleep now .... :(


@Lt. Uhura,

"By resource extraction we mean that
resources are transferred from either individuals or larger institutions (e.g., the state, organization) to the person who signals
victimhood. There are many resources that can be transferred to
someone claiming victim status (Foa & Foa, 1980), and so we use
the term resource broadly to refer to any material (e.g., money,
jobs, access to education) and/or symbolic (e.g., respect, tolerance,
compassion) assets that one party possesses and that another party
wants to acquire."
********************************************
This is what all Nutties have been saying about MM's merching or looking for the big bucks through corporate donors.
@Lt.Uhura,

I find it hard to look at her now, too, but I still can't stay away. It's just bizarre, so I need to watch this unfold.

Get some sleep. I bet you'll feel different in the morning. Nite!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
This is what all Nutties have been saying about MM's merching or looking for the big bucks through corporate donors.
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YES, g-d-it.

Ugh.

I only wish I could do something about M. Partly because I'm an Anglophile, and partly because I'm a person who cares about people who care about life.

Eh ... all right. This time for real, LOL ... I have to go to sleep, so I can work another day :)

JennS said…
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@Jenn,

Well, here's a point that my instructor made not too long ago. He said that women can spot a con artist, dangerous person or a liar faster than men can. There's a whole psychological explanation for that, but I won't go into it now. It's almost 3 a.m. here.

Yes, we've all been discussing the Dark Triad for quite a long time, but not much lately. It's an interesting subject, isn't it? Other bloggers have been discussing it since shortly after the engagement announcement, when many of us caught the first indication of trouble ahead with her.

There are lots of psych studies on the Dark Triad, but I liked how in-depth this one is and how closely they describe #6's wife.
This is from the study above, and it lists what virtuous victimhood personality types say about themselves. Dark Triad personalities can be virtuous victims.


Discussed how my concerns and needs are not being heard by political leaders

Said that my achievements are often being questioned.

Discussed how I don’t feel financially secure.

Shared how I don’t feel comfortable with my body.

Brought up that I have fewer opportunities presented to me than other people.

Stated how I am not physically able to pursue my day-to-day activities.

Told others that I get paid less based on my identity.

Pointed out how I am not able to pursue my goals and dreams because of external factors.

Expressed that I don’t have strong social support.

Disclosed that I don’t feel like I am in control of my future.

Disclosed that I struggle with mental health issues.

Told others that I worry about my safety.

Explained how I don’t feel accepted in the society because of my identity.

Mentioned that I don’t feel like I get credit for my achievements.

Spoke about how people who share my identity are criminalized by society.

Expressed how people like me are underrepresented in the media and leadership.

Talked about how people who belong to my group are negatively stereotyped.

Made it known that I can’t move freely within or outside of my country.

Pointed out how my rights were violated in some way.
Well, that paper's going to keep me quiet for few days- I C&P'd it into Word so I could adjust the spacing to make it easier to read & I've got 47 Pages so far!

Once, I mentioned virtue signalling to my friendship group and one member (with different politics from me, on the opposite side of our sociogram) pooh-poohed the idea - I had a quiet internal chuckle because she does it all the time!

I recall a discussion here re Dark Triad quite a time ago - when I brought up the possibility someone else dismissed it - but then we agreed that she showed signs of all 3 dimensions & I `shouted Bingo!'
Ava C said…
Seeing a DM story today about Prince Charles telling friends he is angry about the BBC still showing clips of the Panorama Diana interview, I felt a great wave of irritation. I've had it with this exhausting drip drip drip of royal sources and the Palace indicating one thing today and the opposite tomorrow. Is this any way to run a modern monarchy? It's cowardly, sneaky and unnecessarily complicated.

Just tell us what we need to know and have done with it. Basically, do what William did this week. Make a statesmanlike speech. Show us where you stand, with no emotional embellishments and no subtle subtexts or nuances for endless misinterpretation. Stand up. Speak. Own it. Then leave us alone for decent intervals to get on with our lives in peace.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Ava C said...
Seeing a DM story today about Prince Charles telling friends he is angry about the BBC still showing clips of the Panorama Diana interview, I felt a great wave of irritation. I've had it with this exhausting drip drip drip of royal sources and the Palace indicating one thing today and the opposite tomorrow. Is this any way to run a modern monarchy? It's cowardly, sneaky and unnecessarily complicated.
_____

I wholeheartedly agree.

I don't mind admitting that my own life is so sadly lacking that I have allowed the second-hand soap opera to consume my attention.

It's more than that, though. We all want to have something to look up to, something bigger than ourselves.
D1 said…
New Harry Markle posted


https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/a-tale-of-two-sons-the-truth-behind-the-panorama-interview/
AnT said…
The Dark Triad information— 👁👁 oh. my. god. It just gave me chills to read that. Definitely Her. Surely someone close to the royals in a military capacity must hav twigged this too, and I’d watching her because of it.

Oh Lord Geidt, please be around Her Majesty again in some way.


@AvaC, 👏👏👏. I know, my goodness,! Hey Charles, old chap, lean your walking stick against that fence post, and listen to my news: this isn’t tea party decor you dislike. This isn’t sending your man to mumble at the tailor about unfortunate pocket placement. THIS IS THE WHOLE BANANA your dim brat and his vicious bike rider are tryinG hard to take down. This is your traveling bed and mahogany loo seat and all your parents‘ work they want to smash. And hun, you’re next, can’t you tell? In three years you went from walking smirking Medusa down the aisle after she ransacked her own father.....to being publicly labeled as a bad guy for not giving a grown man his allowance, to bring a trapped victim with William....to being the source of all suffering when Handbag was a kid. Use your voice, Charles. No sayings. No poetry. Use. your. Voice. Say what needs to be said, and say it now. Stop weeping and hiding and reading Hamlet —- and use your b——y voice. Practice with Camilla and William, be as direct as a horse down a track, and for once in your carefully groomed life, let it rip, and save the monarchy.

Hmm? What do you mean, China told you not to meddle in Medusa’s work? (This last bit for @Wild Boar Battle-maid, who shares my sense of something skeevy happening with the Harkles.)

Grisham said…
OT: can we talk for a minute about Princess Charlene of Monaco? I am worried about her. Although I do think she can pull off her buzz haircut, I can’t help but think it’s a cry for help. Or she is done with Albert and is trying to repulse him to either get him off of her or start doing grey rock to get him to divorce her. I keep thinking of suicide when I look at recent pictures of her. I think for some people, the institution of Monarchy is impossible to live within.
AnT said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid,

As you know, I share you worrisome suspicions about Harkle goals and Harkle backers. I think someday we may be proven right.

In fact, I entertain the idea that all this wild shoving out of blame, anger, and tales of suicide and woe, the banging clanging use of the word “escape” as if they were desperate Syrian refugees, the whinging of wretchedness and endless tears and crying by our ice cold feminist Sputnik soldier Megs and “never happier” gray shirt Harry are actually a wild hardcore attempt to build a certain facade before some awful truths tumble out, “We did it while traumatized, we have no memory” etc.

Something dark and slimy that the Harkles don’t like us to know about is wiggling out there in the dark bushes and coming toward us. I’m waiting for it to arrive.
Grisham said…
I also completely agree that the rag tabloids are contributing to any instability of the monarchy itself with all of these crazy stories. I honestly think they come up with stories by having a meeting and saying like “Pete, what do you think the queen thinks of this?” And then Pete (I made up a name) writes a story, either makes up a royal source or calls a contact and then they speculate and write an article about their speculation— but write it as truth...

I’m not sure anything in these stories are real. Most of the time, the headlines don’t even reflect what it says in the story. I used to like DM because there are so many stories and varied topics to read, some about things in the US I hadn’t run across on US websites.

But especially lately, it seems that many of these are made up/speculation. I’m not reading DM any more. I’d rather just google a topic and read true news articles about whatever topic...
Grisham said…
@ant, I hear what you are saying but my question always is: what is anyone waiting for? No one has to play a long game here, certainly not the queen and the monarchy.
Ava C said…
@Lt Nyota Uhura and @AnT- glad you understand. The BRF has to change. With British institutions like the BBC being exposed as they have been this week, nothing is sacrosanct. I feel the traditional BRF is on borrowed time and William is the only one offering hope for the future.

On a personal note, after more than a year, when Covid has made life seem far more fragile, you'd think we would find better things to do than follow the trashy saga of an actress who can't even act. It's obviously our need to make sense of things and to see justice win in the end.

It makes me angry with myself though. My brother's best friend died in a car crash in his early 20s and my best friend died nearly 17 years ago in a tsunami. I'm so aware of the precious time they lost. They'd both give anything for just one more day of life. Yet even knowing this, I can't stop watching and waiting for this saga to end. I keep thinking it's close, then again and again it's as far away as ever.

I don't want to live in a soap opera run by people who failed to grow up. Who only know how to hurt people who can't or won't fight back. Lady C laughs a lot about it, but I've stopped laughing.

@Tatty - I'm interested in your comment:

@ant, I hear what you are saying but my question always is: what is anyone waiting for? No one has to play a long game here, certainly not the queen and the monarchy.

If you have time, do please expand on it as I don't fully understand. Many thanks.
Anonymous said…
@Ant

our ice cold feminist Sputnik soldier Megs and “never happier” gray shirt Harry 😅

Something dark and slimy that the Harkles don’t like us to know about is wiggling out there in the dark bushes and coming toward us. 😳

Dang, AnT, I sure wish I could write like you.
Caniche said…
Amidst all the to-do with Diana and the Bachir interview, has anybody ever considered that if Charles hadn't blathered to Dimbleby about his infidelity Diana might probably not gone ahead with said interview?
Fluffy Bunny said…
A velociraptor? Or a pawn in a game played by a very evil group of people? I use the term pawn loosely, Meghan has the intelligence but did not have the resources such a Sunshine Sachs, and Oprah and friends pre-Harry. Harry, on the other hand was in deep with that crowd.

How does one go from a z-list actress to having the clout to destroy the BRF? It seems odd that the most famous person she was associated with, pre #6, was Serena. There was the SOHO crowd and her bff, Jessica. But no real heavy-hitters.

This alliance is either one perfect storm of coincidences or the coming together of a well-coordinated plan to try to destroy the BRF.

IMO, there's much more to this story.
Caniche said…
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