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Has "Finding Freedom" improved the Sussexes' reputation?

 It's now been a full week since the official publication of "Finding Freedom," with a great deal of ink spilled about the book and the Sussexes new home in Montecito.

Has the Sussex reputation benefitted from the publicity, or are they worse off now in public opinion than they were a week ago?

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Dallas Alice said…
She knew what she was marrying into and took a giant bush piss all over it. The more she thumbs her nose at “the firm”, the more ammo she gives “the firm” to say see ya, followed by a list of grievances. It’s like royal festivus. LOL
Bennie said…
@Dallas Alice... I pray you are correct!!! My heart breaks for HMTQ at her age having to deal with these two & all they've done!!!

God Save the Queen!!!
Aquagirl said…
@Bennie: I don’t know why the BRF is not doing anything about it, nor do I understand why these organizations are allowing her to participate.
Hikari said…
Re. the Harkles visiting the U.K.

Meghan is always 'planning' to do oodles of things. How many of her plans ever come to fruition? She is only concerned with keeping her name and image in the press, so for these purposes, endlessly teasing about all her 'plans' is as good as actually *doing* them. Either way, she gets the ink.

It may be many months, a year even, before they'd ever have the way clear to make good on their threat to return to the U.K. Meg's attention span is not that long. This is what she's saying *today* but she will have forgotten it and be onto the next attention-sucking scheme next week. She's talking out of both sides of her face again . . .why on earth would she race back to that nasty-wasty damp country full of un-woke racists and meanie bullies who treated her so badly? This chick wants to have her cake and eat it at all times. With this statement she simultaneously wishes to issue an FU to the Queen and the people of Britain while at the same time, garner sympathy in sugary corners as being the 'bigger person' trying to reach out to her in-laws. Because she's so 'family-oriented'

The Harkles can go to London but they probably aren't going to be received at court in an official capacity. After all, they walked away from the RF. They are, for these purposes, just two vacationers from California.

HappyDays said…
@ CookieShark: Yes, most certainly arrogance.
And, because she needs attention, which fuels her narcissism, they will get loads of coverage in the press, and even if there is any negative coverage of media pointing out they want to have their cake and eat it too, which is likely, and there are protests, the Harkles will just blame it on racism.

I am guessing Meghan is already assembling her wardrobe now as she is said to have done for the outfits she wore during their last visit in March.

Aquagirl said…
@Dallas: I saw the clip where she says, ‘It’s so good to be home’ and where she also takes about ‘using her voice.’ These statements tell me that she never had any intention of staying in the BRF—it was just a detour for her. We already know that, and I’m assuming that the BRF know it too. They cannot possibly wait until the one-year review. She MUST lose her title before the election.
SwampWoman said…
She's an American citizen that lives in America. She's free to join any organization that will have her and agitate for whatever cause she believes in. I'm free to point and laugh and say hurtful things about her such as "You have neither the class or the talent of the Kardashians, and Kanye has more money than Harry!"

HappyDays said…
Dallas Alice said...
She knew what she was marrying into and took a giant bush piss all over it. The more she thumbs her nose at “the firm”, the more ammo she gives “the firm” to say see ya, followed by a list of grievances. It’s like royal festivus. LOL

@Dallas Alice, Royal Festivus? Hilarious, especially since Finding Freedom was one big session of the Festivus “Airing of the grievances.”

There is a video that was posted by Celt News on her youtube channel yesterday. She mentioned that Meghan has said she thinks the monarchy should be ended when Elizabeth dies. If this is true, it just proves Meghan truly is batsh!t crazy. It would be the ultimate case of biting the hand that feeds you.

xxxxx said…
Hikari said...
comporting himself as a grown-up in an office setting, all of which would help demonstrate his 'leadership quality' Hazza replied "Sod that."

Your mastery of British lingo! For "screw that" or "f that"

Invictus was a good fit for Harry, but his involvement is just as the figurehead role. The Games only happen every two years and though there is ongoing detailed planning in the interim, it's nothing Harry was ever involved in.

I am sure that Harry and Edward Lane Fox were very involved in Invictus' early years. Harry was not a mere figurehead, a distanced Royal patron. Over the years Harry became a figurehead. ELF came up with the idea of Invictus to make a great image for Harry after his Las Vegas debacle.

For the newbies here...... ELF was Harry's image maker, the brains behind Harry after the army. A very capable man and excellent Royal adjunct for Harry. He was the opposite of a flunky. He left a few months after the Royal marriage.

#1 - Due to Megsy lying to him and scamming him as far as Megsy assuring ELF that her father Thomas would be there. That Megsy was taking care of this.
#2 - Megsy did not want a rival Harry infleucer around. There can only be one queen bee in a hive. Megsy was determined to be this Queen and Harry's Queen. ELF was a threat to Megsy so she made sure he was uncomfortable and was deftly pushed out. She was overjoyed to see ELF gone. (This is my speculation)
#3 - ELF is not gay or anything when I say there were two queens in the Harry hive, so don't get me wrong on this. But for sure this was M versus ELF and a husband will go with his wife most of the time. When ELF was gone, this is when Megs was able to take Harry's Stockholm Syndrome to higher levels.
HappyDays said…
Of course, if Meghan feels this strongly that the monarchy should end with Elizabeth’s departure from this earthly realm, Meghan could truly live up to her “rulebreaker” reputation and she and Harry renounce all their titles, including Harry’s blood title of Prince, pay for all of their security and all other funding that comes from the Duchy and any other monies with ties to the government or the monarchy and live as truly private citizens.


Miggy said…
@HappyDays,

There is a video that was posted by Celt News on her youtube channel yesterday. She mentioned that Meghan has said she thinks the monarchy should be ended when Elizabeth dies. If this is true, it just proves Meghan truly is batsh!t crazy. It would be the ultimate case of biting the hand that feeds you.

Celt News has now put a comment on that part of the video that says: "Since said to be false....."
So it's not verified.
SwampWoman said…
The royal family has door guards. They do not need to see her. They do not need to let her in their castles. They need not have any interaction with her at all. Same goes for Harry.

CatEyes said…
@Happy Days said...

"There is a video that was posted by Celt News on her youtube channel yesterday. She mentioned that Meghan has said she thinks the monarchy should be ended when Elizabeth dies."

What Meghan may think if the Monarchy ends with the Queen's death then the family's wealthy will be divided and Harry will get a huge payout. While on the other hand if the Monarchy continues upon Elizabeth's death then William will be Prince of Wales and hold the purse strings and Harry may seriously see little money come his way.
Miggy said…
New Lady C video...

Tiaragate; Meg/Morticia; Thomas Markle Iced; Downtown Abbey's Julian Fellowes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obcr8UkoHx4
She's getting like Tony Blair "using her voice" when no one wants to hear either of them exercise their vocal chords ever again. Between her unwelcome intervention in the forthcoming election and covid 19 will anyone now set foot in a US voting booth?
HappyDays said…
Miggy said...
Celt News has now put a comment on that part of the video that says: "Since said to be false....."
So it's not verified.

@Miggy: Thanks for the update. Celt News seems to be a generally reliable source, and I was somewhat surprised when she dropped that tidbit into her narration, thinking to myself that Celt must have had a good source for it.

I think Meghan is not beyond biting the hands that have fed her in the past, such as Thomas and Trevor, but doing that to a cash cow like the RF is positively irrational.
Dallas Alice said…
IMO, the RF have well and truly painted themselves into a corner with this BS. They will need to get all their swans in a row before they cast those two petulant idiots out. Here’s hoping it is sooner rather than later. Lord knows, those two morons are loading their cannons and aiming them right at their own thick heads.
Teasmade said…
@Dallas Alice: LOL at Swans in a row!
Miggy said…
@HappyDays,

You're welcome :)

Dallas Alice said…
If PC is still looking to give away a farm, this Yank is raising her hand in an aggressively American manner. PICK ME.
LavenderLady said…
@Dallas,

I'll arm wrastle you for it lol.

Kidding:)
LavenderLady said…
@Disgusted,
She's getting like Tony Blair "using her voice" when no one wants to hear either of them exercise their vocal chords ever again.
*******
LOL! True :D
LavenderLady said…
@Miggy,
New Lady C video...

Tiaragate; Meg/Morticia; Thomas Markle Iced; Downtown Abbey's Julian Fellowes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obcr8UkoHx4
*****

ooh thanks for the reminder! Going there now. Later gators!
Dallas Alice said…
@PinkPeony, I don’t mind sharing
Girl with a Hat said…
that comment about Meghan wanting the monarchy to end with the Queen's death was the headline on one of those Australian magazines, the ones who are wrong 99% of the time. I'm surprise Celt News picked it up because she is usually very reliable
Girl with a Hat said…
which makes me think which headlines we will be seeing about Meghan in the future which won't be false...

Meghan Markle arrested by Secret Service for stalking Michelle Obama

is probably one we will be seeing in the near future
SwampWoman said…
Disgusted, Tunbridge Wells said...
She's getting like Tony Blair "using her voice" when no one wants to hear either of them exercise their vocal chords ever again. Between her unwelcome intervention in the forthcoming election and covid 19 will anyone now set foot in a US voting booth?


Well, we just voted (in person) in county and state primaries (grin).

Seriously, those of us in Florida are watching the latest tropical disturbances coming off of Africa because GoMEX, the Caribbean, and the Atlantic around southeast are hot. Major hurricane development hot. We're also keeping an eye on school openings in the time of coronavirus. The only way I have found out about her voting, er, outreach and her video surprises are here. She just doesn't register here. I doubt she registers much anywhere.
LavenderLady said…
@jdubya,
Don't have time to read all the posts right now but has this been brought up here? Got this off a Harry Markle post

The creator of a YouTube channel (Danja Zone) that is critical of the Susexes recently had their home burned down, and the nearby home of the mother was also burned later on. Arson has been suspected, and while at this point it’s unclear who the culprits are, I believe that they had been threatened in the past by Sussex cult fans. If those responsible for the fire and possible death of pets, are indeed cult fans of the Sussexes, then something needs to be done for these people are dangerous. Everyone has a right to express their opinions without being afraid, and if the cult fans have crossed a line, then they and the movement need to be held to account for their crimes.
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One more thing before I bounce, yes to this! Just yesterday I read on DM that Ron Meyer was fired from NBC due to being outed by and UNKNOWN SOURCE about his being blackmailed. I thought Hmmmmm...
LavenderLady said…
@Dallas,

Well that's neighborly of you girl. :D

Going to hear Lady Colin Campbell rip La Markle a new one as only she can ;)

Bye y'all.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Pink Peony, Ron Meyer as in Jennifer Meyer's father? Very interesting.



The story about Ashli from Danja Zone's home burning to the ground is very upsetting, as is the story about her mother's home being destroyed as well. I listened to her last video and she is just about crying the whole time. It's so upsetting to hear her like that.
hunter said…
The DARLING article at Daily Mail - I saw it yesterday and the very first thing I thought about was all the tweets from notorious/anonymous troll @TorontoPaper1.

He/they regularly start their tweets to Meghan with "Darling, ..."

It's hilarious. Check it out: https://twitter.com/torontopaper1

(TP hasn't posted since July 22 when it was insinuated MM was involved in some cannibalistic ritual affiliated w/ the pedo people.)
Hikari said…
xxxx.

Your mastery of British lingo! For "screw that" or "f that"

Thank you. I watch a ton of British television & read British books.

Along those lines, I wonder if the 'Meg sprinkling the savannah with her golden dew' came about when Harry said to Madam, "Don't take the p!$$, Meghan" and she heard 'Don't take *a* p!$$.' Her little Narc ears perked up and hearing a negative instruction said, "Oh, yeah? Watch me!"

Since that episode occurred allegedly during the 'We're sooo in lurve!' phase very early on, it's very instructive about Haz's true feelings (or incapacity for them) that this is the anecdote that was shared about what impressed him the very most about this amazing girl he'd just met: that she dropped a clanger in the bush. (more Brit slang! The other terms are so crude and I don't want to sink to Meg's level.

This woman was the center of the world's eyes as the newly-minted Windsor bride, and her immediate response to the crowds gathered to see her was 'F . .U . .C . . K!' Real classy. One might *think* it, but who would blurt it out for the world to see? Meg may have attended some of the best schools, but she's such a crude and filthy guttersnipe she can't help herself. Maybe excavating her bowels and bladder is something she lets all her gentlemen friends witness. I need a shower just writing that.

And this bride wore the whitest white wedding gown in Christendom, accessorized with a veil that was more elaborate than the Queen-to-Be wore at her own wedding.
Dallas Alice said…
I have always been a proud American, as well as a proud Texan. Large portions of East Texas bear the name of my forefathers. Having said that, I am beyond disgusted with the current state of “things”. For that sorry a$$ gutter snipe to always complain, never explain makes me furious. What a disservice she is doing to our country in an already divisive time. Oh, hey Megs—it never occurred to me to vote until you came back “home”. I’m only 50 (and I acknowledge it because I have earned every single one of these years) and I totally appreciate you pointing me in the woke direction. Megs, you make me wish I had more middle fingers.
hunter said…
Also - Just me or is the V-O-T-E necklace Michelle Obama wore for Night 1 of the DNC the same necklace as MM's gold Royally Rebuked M-H necklace?

I do think it is. Annoys me.
Dallas Alice said…
@Hikari-that made me chuckle. I was married for the first (and only dammit) time when I was 34. Even I didn’t wear white 😂
Unknown said…
@hunter Not the same necklaces. MO's necklace is custom and by Staci Cuthbert from a L.A. boutique BYCHARI. Rache's H&M necklace was from Right Hand Gal, Montreal designers Shawna and Randi Herlich.

Rache's Necklace:
http://www.meghansmirror.com/special-feature/the-story-behind-meghan-markles-h-m-initial-necklace/

Michelle's Necklace:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/18/politics/michelle-obama-vote-necklace-designer/index.html
hunter said…
@charade - omg you are totally right!! :D

Meghan's necklace has the letters threaded through the top and bottom of each letter, Michelle's necklace has each letter suspended from the top of the letter only, which is actually technically more expensive to produce.

This is because Meghan's H-M letters are threaded with a thin gold strand (like beads) connected to the chain and Michelle's letters are fused and connected to chained links.

It is a small distinction, but makes a bid difference when mass-producing.
hunter said…
My mother said when you get married a second time it is more appropriate to wear cream or any shade of not-exactly white.

Meghan's dress was gleaming like Ross's bleached teeth.
Unknown said…
@hunter You know Rache would love to push headlines MO takes fashion advice from her. LOL, that's never happening ;)
JHanoi said…
Zara, Bea, Eugenie - they aren’t paid royals like the Cambridges, Wales, HM , PP before retirement, PA before early retirement, PAnna, and the Wesssexes so I doubt they can really ‘step up’ untilasked. They have to make their own money, marry money, or get it from Mom and Dad or Granny for their hair and clothes and upkeep. they seem to get housing for free so that does leave what they earn as dispoasable income.

Cormwall provides for PC ad his Heirs, when it passes to PW, will it only then provide for the Cambridges? then will JCPH then get his money from the Duchy of Lancaster? or just some checks from Dad now and then? if MM is as bad with money as it seems i hope his trusts / inheiritances are tied up tight so there’s something for him onc they blow thru what his has saved..
Bennie said…
Unbelievable.... Who, Why, & How is she getting all this backing from to do all these speeches??? She is nothing but a low life, paid Escort & everyone knows it!!! It's all over the internet!!! Why aren't the reporters reporting on this?!? Who / When is someone going to break this scandal open?!?

Article from Daily Mail... Meghan Markle is unveiled as surprise guest at virtual summit to encourage voting participation

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8643397/amp/Meghan-Markle-set-join-virtual-summit-Vote.html
Unknown said…
re: Pippa Middleton's marriage

I guess I didn't know other Nutties weren't aware how widespread *gossip* about Pippa, her husband, and in-laws has been for years. They aren't royal so there has been a lot of fodder. I won't be able to provide source material for what I am about to write. These are tidbits I've accumulated over the years following the younger royals and the Middletons.

Like @tatty, I have heard the cheating rumors about Pippa's husband but those are recent and tamer than the main ones that plague Pippa and her in-laws.

The scoop is Pippa had her heart set on marrying Nico Jackson, her boyfriend before James. She however settled for James who relentlessly pursued her after Kate's wedding. She had become a hot commodity in 2011 prized for her royal connection and unfortunately not to those she cared for. There were even rumors Harry pursued Pippa but she was decidedly not interested.

The Matthews' family is self-made, purchased a lairdship by acquiring land, and were desperate for the royal connection Pippa provided. James' family has been mired in controversy for a long time. There have been whispers of what his father David did to get to the top. He's been investigated at least twice for grooming and raping teenage girls. His brother Spencer has a reputation as bad if not worse than Harry's when it comes to drugs and women.

I sometimes wondered if there was something to the Harry-Pippa rumors given his choice of marrying Rache. Before Rache, he seemed to go for statuesque blondes like his Mom but when he settled down, he picked a brunette some might consider a Pippa look-a-like.
Girl with a Hat said…
if anyone addresses a comment to me and I don't respond, please don't take it as a snub. Just point it out again please. I got my computer fan fixed, but now my ISP provider seems to have gone bankrupt and my internet service is sporadic.
Girl with a Hat said…
@charade, yes, the exercises work but you really have to stick to it.

has anyone seen this? it's hilarious.

https://twitter.com/yankeewally2/status/1296183808824356871

Harry trying to make it in Hollywood by Yankee Wally
LavenderLady said…
@Girl With a Hat,
Yup.Jennifer Meyer's father.
Girl with a Hat said…
@charade, wow, how the mighty have fallen.
Aquagirl said…
@Charade: You should put a warning before the H&M necklace link! OMG, that sickly, sweet prose describing their ‘fairytale love story.’ Is that how yacht girls’ relationships are described now? Ick.
Aquagirl said…
@Charade: I’ve heard the same stories about Pippa and her in-laws. I’ve always gotten the impression that she does not love her husband, but rather, she settled. She looks so lonely in all of the photos that I’ve seen of her with her son. Glad she has a close-knit loving family.
Hikari said…
@charade

Your Intel about the Mathews family is depressing and probably 100% spot on. I shouldn’t be shocked anymore by the moral depravity of the upper classes, but I am just a bougie from the Midwest and tales of aristocratic debauchery just make me SMH. Is it even possible to have a happy and faithful marriage in those circles?

I found an unexpected reason to admire Harry’s sixth great grandfather or is it fifth, George III, Who was widely marked in his time for Refusing the kings privilege in taking mistresses, remaining steadfastly faithful to his Queen Charlotte, the mother of his 15 or 16 kids. It was considered abnormal, even unhealthy, for a man of his position to only have a sexual outlet with his wife. A monogamous marriage certainly seems the exception rather than the rule in the ruling class, and is increasingly getting hard to find among the lower classes as well.

In the early photos of Meg-as-fiancée, I detected quite often a striking resemblance to Pippa in certain angles. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if MM made sure to cultivate this subliminally, since her coloring matches Pippa’s rather than Diana’s. Since Meg keeps gaining and losing weight and messing with her face, that resemblance is long gone. Among all of the tonsorial disasters of last summer, who can forget MM‘s scraped back bun and Pleated maxi skirt horror at Wimbledon sandwiched between the two beautiful Middleton sisters? A skunk cabbage between two roses, what! Pippa was a sport; Her sister probably called her up and begged her to come so she wouldn’t be stuck with Meg by herself again. Based on Meg’s face, She was most definitely being babysat and keenly feeling her third wheel chunky frump status...The narc vision of Hell.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Hikari, Charles also had mistresses, not just Camilla.

He reputedly said that he wouldn't be known as the only Prince of Wales who didn't have a mistress.
Aquagirl said…
@Charade: I don’t think Pippa would have ever been interested in dating JH, but perhaps he was interested in dating her. As for him ‘choosing’ MM, I think we all know that he didn’t choose her...she chose him. But if there’s anything to the idea of him being married to a brunette, I’d say it has more to do with Kate. He clearly idolizes her (at least he did before he was brainwashed.)
CatEyes said…
Just had a funny thing happen, my 72 yr. old brother just hobbled (he has severe arthritis and struggles to walk) to the stairs to yell up to me that I needed to turn on Channel 5 immediately to see "the fashions Meghan Markle is making a statement with". The poor dear didn't realize it would probably be a joke blurb and sure enough TMZ was showing some fashion choices like her burgundry dress at the Invictus Games, then her 'husband shirt' with obvious implications and the hideous green grasshopper dress with hat (who she told someone it would be the last hat she would wear in a long time) at the Commonwealth Service. My brother always tells me if there is something on the news about her (he even bought me a People magazine once because it had an article about Meg). I don't have the heart to tell him I probably get more info on Meghan in one day on Nutty's blog than all the news shows and magazines can pour out in 6 months. I guess I set him up because when we are in the truck going somewhere I sometimes regale him with my latest bitching about the Harkles...he just listens politely and doesn't comment (sometimes I glance over and he is staring out the window probably counting cattle, Lol).
Hikari said…
@Girl

I have certainly never held Charles up as any pillar of moral rectitude where sex is concerned. He cut a real swathe As in 1970s party Prince And during his first marriage. Now that Chas will be 72 on his next birthday, I wonder if he still has bits on the side or if it’s only Camilla now. Cam her self is certainly no candidate for the nunnery either. She might have been the bona fide first and only Princess of Wales Had she not been so colorful. Colorful being posh for “Has had more rides than a Picadilly Circus bus”.

Being a child of divorce made accepting the status quo in her class and marriage impossible for Diana. I’m pretty sure if she had been able to coexist with Charles’ mistresses, She would still be here today to enjoy her grandchildren. I’m also more than pretty sure that had Charles not been the air to the British throne, but just a pipe fitter named Chuck, He wouldn’t have been so catnippy for the lassies with a face like he’s got. He was just emulating his father, and probably trying darn hard to prove to Philip that he was categorically not gay.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Cat Eyes, aww, your brother loves you.

My brother had an obsession with the Titanic, for some odd reason. We would all listen politely while he went on about it but for the life of me, I couldn't understand it. I would buy anything with any mention of Titanic for him, of course. So did everyone else. He's gone now, but I still look at Titanic stuff whenever I see it, and think of him.
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HappyDays said…
@Cat Eyes, Your brother is very sweet to tell you when “Meghan news” is popping.
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Lily Love said…
@wullie’sbucket

What a sad pathetic journalist. Meghan will never be president. In fact, if Harry gets his head out of his ass and divorces her she will fade into a obscurity.
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Jdubya said…
DID YOU SEE THIS?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEAlmr5BBIw/?utm_source=ig_embed

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THE PHOTO SHOWS 2 PEOPLE IN SHADOW - People are saying it's Megs & Harry
Girl with a Hat said…
more Harry in Hollywood

https://twitter.com/Sugarfreezone2/status/1296230605840175104
Jdubya said…
Meghan judges Chopped junior - watch her eating

https://youtu.be/Mp91w4qQ32k

Martha said…
@Bennie....I share your frustration! Admittedly, I understand little of how the internet, news, etc circulate...why are her past issues not exposed? We know her name because she married into a famous family. But she is infamous. She is a no talent, lying, obsequious, sniveling, manipulative, conniving b$tch. She is nothing more than these adjectives. I am beyond weary of her nonsense.
Aquagirl said…
@Wullie’sBucket: Add me to the list of people who thinks that the article should not have been written. It’s not funny, although he seems to think it is. It’s actually quite insulting to both the US & the UK. Nobody should be talking/writing about MM being in US politics. If they are, they should be discussing the fact that it’s a conflict of interest and that she is not loyal to any person or any country. Besides leaving the US, Canada, and the UK, she even left Argentina before her internship was complete.

It’s time for the gloves to come off, and for the press to expose her for who she really is.
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CatEyes said…
@Jdubya

OMG Meghan eats like a pig in that clip. What a huge lump of food bulging in her mouth. Just Gross! I will say she looked much prettier back then (2016). You tube said it was around the time she met Harry. I can't believe she even got on the show (like did they believe she was a qualified 'foodie' because of The Tig? But so what.) Chopped is one of my favorites and I am ashamed to admit I spend hrs watching the Food Network each week.
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Hikari said…
That Josh Glancy article of the page is totally vomit inducing! I had to move my phone out of range in case I spewed on it and shorted it out.

Meghan: an A-Lister with the chips to be President!!!!

Gawd, isn’t her PR working double-overtime these days?!

Meghan was incapable Of handling a largely public relations sinecure where she turned up at charities expected to look nice and accept flowers. She was in capable of even two minutes of small talk in a receiving line, And she’s never actually held a full-time job. But she’s ready to hit the ground running as President of the United States ....sure.
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We must remember that the more grandiose and outlandish claims about Meg, the more sure it is that it’s fake. I’d love to see her try… The minute she declares herself as a candidate for president, the GOP is going to find and unleash all the salad tossing videos. Bring it on Meg...The salad tossing, the tax fraud, hey possible bigamy why not? Not even the royal family scrub the bit about you passing out bags of weed, a controlled substance, at your second wedding. Hell will freeze over before Meg would ever finish a candidates’ debate without being laughed off the stage. I know that the current President makes it seem like any unqualified person can do that job, but Meg is a total and utter fantacist.

The only way Meg is on the A-list is if a stands for A$$. As in head Up ...
Aquagirl said…
@Wullie’sBucket: I didn’t know that about your relative; that’s quite interesting! I think that Harry, like most of us has both positive and negative traits. He always seemed quite happy with William and Kate and during his visits to Africa. But apparently he wasn’t the best boyfriend. Cressida has said that he ‘wasn’t always nice’, and he’s well-known for being cheap, even to his girlfriends. Both she and Chelsey have said that they didn’t want to live life in the spotlight, which is understandable, but perhaps their break-ups were caused by other reasons, namely his behavior towards them. He could’ve stepped back from his official duties with one of them, perhaps spending half of the time in the UK and half in Africa, but apparently their relationships never got to that level.

The day that he encountered Meghan Markle was the turning point in his life. He seemed to be at least functional before that (albeit someone who made bad decisions such as the ‘Nazi in Vegas’ fiasco.) But this was the guy who was everybody’s ‘favorite Royal.’ He is now unrecognizable compared to the person that he used to be, and that’s quite sad for everybody involved.

I don’t know if you saw my post about the wedding. I still believe that this wedding was never meant to happen. And reading the comment from her hairdresser saying that he only found out about the tiara a few days before the wedding makes me believe that I am correct in that assumption. How can a guy look so annoyed, and almost terrified, to see his supposed ‘girlfriend’ arrive at the Invictus Games in September, then be engaged to this same woman in November? I still believe that there was a level of blackmail involved, and now he’s in so deep that he can’t find his way out.
Aquagirl said…
@Wullie’sBucket: Regarding the book ratings, Sunshine Sachs is known to manipulate information on-line. They’ve been called out in the past for changing clients’ Wikipedia pages. Naomi Campbell comes to mind, but there were others as well. So yes, I can see them being responsible for the five-star ratings.
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@Wullie’sBucket: I found the article nauseating, and it seems as if Hikari did as well, but we don’t speak for everyone here.
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Hikari said…
@Wullie’s

Re. Amazon reviews

In answer to your question, most definitely Meg’s publisher Would skew the reviews. This is common practice. Oh there’s five star reviews popping up on the first day of publication were almost certainly reviewers who had received a promo copy for free in exchange for a favorable review. There is a thriving subculture of people who are professional Amazon reviewers...If you take note of the top reviewers, The same names pop up time and time again and these people can literally submit 50 or 100 reviews in a single day. If one climbs into the ranks of top reviewer, One can get tons of free swag, Amazon credits and even cash. These reviews are a nice little earner for a lot of folks, And it’s basically their full-time job. Even for the ones who are in it for the swag tend to not have highly developed critical standards, because every single book or item purchase from Amazon is “5 stars!!!!!” Apparently, a lot of people think that every new book they read is the best book they’ve ever read in their lives. I used to Contribute quite a few reviews, but I stopped because Amazon doesn’t want legitimate criticism...All they care about is sales, which is why they discontinued the customer forums. It’s not in their bottom line interest to have too many negative reviews. A lot of people just got off on seeing their name in print and will write any nonsense. There are legions of people on Amazon that gave Fifty Shades of Grey five glowing stars as well, and I’d say Finding Freedom is on the same level...Escapist fantasy fiction written on the level of a horny eighth grade girl.

I have to believe that eventually the truth will out about this couple and they will be completely ignominious, but the day of reckoning seems to be taking an awfully long time to get here. It’s frustrating, But H & M are exploiting a complicit media that celebrates venal idiots.
Hikari said…
@Wullie’s

Please leave that times article in. I’m on my phone so I just glanced at portions of it, and I didn’t realize the author was being facetious. I thought it was more of her self promotional PR again. I will be sure to enjoy that article in full When I can access it on a larger screen.

The Duchess has no clothes....But the zeitgeist appears to be with her because very few media outlets, especially American ones seem willing to call her out on it.

The RF’s terror of the R word Has inflicted a virus on the world that seems just as bad as Corona sometimes. I was never much one for Revelation but it seems like 2020 is the Year of the Beast. In more ways than one.
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Still catching up on posts so I apologize in advance if I have overlooked anyone's posts. I'm trying to get a work disaster under control.

@Girl with a Hat The mighty have indeed fallen.

That's why I'm quite sympathetic to Kate's desire to stay home as much as possible with the kids. By virtue of my job and other relationships, I am in contact with quite a few VHNWIs. One pattern I see is their insistence their wives not work and stay home with the kids ideally through high school. The reason being they know their kids can go rotten fast growing up in such extreme wealth. Even with strict rules, their world is so insulated that it impacts their personality and mental reasoning. Impulse control is bad enough as a normal teenager. Add unlimited wealth and you've got a recipe for disaster.

I do get why people like to compare number of royal engagements and use that as a metric of how hard working royals are. I respect that reasoning. Personally, I'm not going to give either Rache or Kate flak for their numbers. Maybe Harry and Wills but even then, I'm hesitant to do so.

The reason I personally hesitate to compare royal engagements is two-fold.

First, the BRF vets projects to an extreme to insulate the Firm from any whiff of controversy. Royal courtiers will be slow to add anything on and before they do, they have to weigh the lifetime of a project and the commitment allowable for Senior Royals. Will it compete with other responsibilities that will get assigned to them down the line? Given this framework, the number of royal projects and engagements should be relatively fixed.

Second, I believe the "fixed" number of engagements are divided per mutual agreement. That is to say, everyone's share in the pie is allotted in a complicated mess of hierarchy, personal interests, public image, and so on. Older Senior Royals may not want their turfs taken over by the younger ones just yet or perhaps not at all. Entitlement to tax money may also be affected by the organization of engagements which could impact Senior royals and courtiers daily lives in ways unknown to us plebs. It is possible the homes they live in, repairs, income of trusted staff, resources, opportunities, and so on depends on engagements.

In no way do I want to diminish all the work of the Princess Royal but I do wonder sometimes if she has the greatest number of engagements for public image reasons. Look at Anne, the hardest working royal who deserves to be heir and has been pushed down in succession by less than worthy brothers. Then we have Edward who gets to be a counterpoint to Charles. Charles is presumptive heir to his mother HMTQ and Edward will be presumptive heir to his father by eventually getting the Dukedom of Edinburgh.

For the BRF, everything has to work in synergy and I do think how they manage it won't please everyone but their continued existence depends on making everything and everyone in the Firm fit together in harmony.
Enbrethiliel said…
"The Duchess does not plan to return to acting."

Translation: Her dreams of appearing in a huge superhero franchise or working with only A-list directors have come to nought. And if a Tara Reid project is the best she can do, then she won't be acting.

I believe there were less than three months between the report about the roles Meghan was interested in and the Tara Reid story. If that's a fair estimation of Meghan's attention span for projects, then she'll probably lose interest in politics right after US election day!
Enbrethiliel said…
On a whim, I rewatched the Addams Family movie last night. A few minutes in, I remembered that one of Meghan's new nicknames is Morticia . . . and felt deeply insulted on Morticia's behalf!

Angelica Huston plays Morticia Addams as a devoted wife, loving mother, and caring sister-in-law -- and she manages to come off quite sexy doing so. It's clear why Gomez is crazy about her.

Meghan is more like Debbie, from the sequel Addams Family Values: a scheming gold-digger who only pretends to like everyone so that she can get what she really wants. They don't look alike at all, but the real resemblance is in personality.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Charade
I believe the "fixed" number of engagements are divided per mutual agreement. That is to say, everyone's share in the pie is allotted in a complicated mess of hierarchy, personal interests, public image, and so on.

I recall Prince William's defensive comment that he would work more if the Queen wanted him to. There would have been many factors that contributed to the "workshy" EAAA years, his supposed laziness being merely the simplest explanation. We know that the Queen wanted him and Catherine to have some time to themselves before jumping into the thick of royal work. A friend of mine believes that William held back because Prince Charles didn't want to be outshone again by his Diana-lookalike son and a daughter-in-law whose entrance into The Firm probably gave him Diana vibes all over again. There were likely other "father issues" on William's part. Which feeds my personal theory that William may have been negotiating, in a way -- that he wanted more of a say in his (and Catherine's?) royal role, and he was willing to play hardball (and to hurt his image a little) to get it.
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emeraldcity said…
&Hikari
Diana had no problems with Charles’ other well-known mistress Lady Dale Tryon, known as ‘Kanga’. In fact they were buddies and Diana sometimes wore her dress designs to help her business along.

For a period during the Seventies, when both women (Camilla and Kanga) were married to friends of Charles, the POW bounced from the bed of Camilla to that of Lady Tryon, then back again. The sad, thwarted, Camilla/Charles love story that the tabloids like to present today was not at all the truth until near the end of the Wales' marriage.

Diana hated Camilla because she knew Charles was happiest with her, she wasn’t just a POW pass time like the others. In fact it was Camilla who hated Kanga. Perhaps it was a case of ‘the enemy of my enemy’ for Diana.

Diana may have been only 19 when she fell into her grandmother’s and the Queen mother’s trap but pretending she was innocent in the ways of the upper crust is just plain untrue, she spent many years at boarding school and the gossip there would turn your ears blue. She knew very well her own mother had affairs when married to Earl Spencer, I can’t remember particulars about any of her father’s affairs but there were a few.

Diana just used the public’s outrage at the affairs as a weapon against Charles the old ‘ oh poor me’ ploy, but she had no compunction herself about having affairs with married men while still married to Charles, indeed she broke up two marriages by blatantly letting the wives know that their husbands were having an affair with her, she even harassed one by phoning her up at all hours of the night and day and leaving sinister messages.

In hind sight Diana’s personality disorder seems to have been handed down to Harry. Little did the RF know that Diana left behind a ticking time bomb.



@Pink Peony ..... I take it that you are over your shingles now but for anyone who is suffering from them there is a homeopathic remedy called Amber tincture it’s the only thing that gave my father relief from the pain. There is also a Shingles vaccine available now so the over 60’s should really think about having it.


@Cats Eyes.... I have a simple old folk remedy for arthritis relief which your sweet brother might like to try. Everyone I have recommended it to has found it helpful for their condition, not a cure but it will certainly help with swelling and lack of mobility and give quite a bit of pain relief.

“The Arthritis Brew”:

Take one whole lemon (don’t peel it or cut it up)

Place the whole lemon in a large screw top jar (glass or plastic)

Cover the lemon with methylated spirits ( denatured alcohol or rubbing alcohol in the US)

Screw the lid on and leave for a couple of weeks to allow the oils and acids to be drawn out of the lemon.

When the liquid is a slight yellow colour simply apply the liquid to the affected parts with a cotton ball a few times a day and allow to dry naturally.

Keep topping up the alcohol to keep the lemon covered and when the lemon has turned white (after a month or more) remove it and replace it with a new lemon. The older the brew the better it works.

My mother had lost most of the movement of her fingers with arthritis but after a week or two using ‘the brew’ was able to knit again and an elderly neighbours hands were so swollen with arthritis he could barely use his walking stick so I gave him a jar of the brew and a few days later he was over the moon showing me his now non swollen hands and flexing his fingers like a concert pianist. My father had a problem with mild carpal tunnel pain in the fingers and he also found using ‘the brew’ helped a lot.

As I said not a cure but certainly helpful. Also cheap and easy to make, it just takes a few weeks to get the brew strong enough to start working.

@Wullie's Bucket,

Something weird is going on with the Amazon ratings. A couple of days ago, it was not on the overall bestseller list, but it was a bestseller in the "Royal Biographies" category. How it jumped to the overall bestseller list in two days, is beyond me.

As a side note, as I was looking at the bestseller's list, I saw that a dear old friend of mine from college is also on the list with his latest book.
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This is interesting. I hope you can follow my line of thought here.

In FF, Scoobie goes into detail about how close Eugenie and Harry were, always going to clubs and partying together before MM appeared on the scene. Eugenie often offered Harry advice.

According to Scoobie, Misha Nonoo was instrumental in helping Marcus Anderson in set up MM and Harry on their first meeting/date. As we all know, Nonoo and MM are "longtime" friends (no dates given as to when they met). MM wore the Nonoo's slinky silver dress to an event where she was photographed wearing the dress. Harry was provided with a photo (Scoobie doesn't provide details on where he got the photo) of MM wearing the dress, and he was so taken with her in the dress, that he decided to meet MM. Nonoo started her fashion line in 2011 and has credited MM's wearing of the dress as giving her career a jump start. The rest we all know.

But the interesting part is that Eugenie's first job (2013) was with Paddle 8 online art auction house, which is part-owned by (surprise!) Misha Nonoo's first husband, Alexander Gilkes. Harry, William and Gilkes are long-time friends from their days together at Eton, and Gilkes (and some reports say, Nonoo) attended William and Kate's wedding in 2001. Beatrice, Eugenie attended the Nonoo-Gilkes wedding. Gilkes' younger brother dated Pippa.

Nonoo and Gilkes were divorced in 2016 after a four-year marriage. Various reports have them married between 3 and 13 years. Hmmm. The more I read about Nonoo, Gilkes, Harry et al, more dates of the same events are reported in different years in different publications.

So, if Harry is a friend of Gilkes, and Nonoo is a "long-time" friend of MM, doesn't it seem likely that Harry might have run across MM far before we think he did? Could Gilkes be the person who met MM while yachting? How did Nonoo from Bahrain, with a high school degree get into Gilkes' Eton crowd? Yachting? Did Nonoo and MM meet through yachting? Thoughts?

As an aside, Paddle 8 (Gilkes) filed for bankruptcy in March of this year after being sued for misappropriating funds from a charity big auction. Paddle 8 also owes money to Jay Z and Justin Beiber, who never got their money from the auctions of some of their art.

https://observer.com/2020/03/paddle8-bankruptcy-auction-house/

This is a really devious and convoluted crowd, huh.







Enbrethiliel said…
@JocelynsBellinis

"Devious and convoluted" indeed!

I know a man who says it's a very good sign that William not only married a girl from the middle class, but also gets along really, really well with her family -- to the point that he may prefer their company to his own! And the more I learn about those in his social circle, the more I understand.

It's too bad about Pippa, though. I agree with the commenter who said she seems lonely in photos of her out and about with her son Arthur.
Enbrethiliel said…
Now that Jocelyn has brought up the in-crowd that Meghan may have had access to before the "official" first meeting, I wonder . . .

Was Pippa -- and not Chelsey or Cressida -- the actual "one who got away"?

When I first saw Meghan, my first thought was that she looked nothing like Harry's two most serious ex-girlfriends. And I asked myself why he was suddenly dating against what seemed to be his type. I had heard the rumors that he had been interested in Pippa after William and Catherine's wedding, but I brushed it aside as starry-eyed stanfiction (if you will) because nothing ever seemed to come of it. But what if he really had liked Pippa and really did want a relationship like what William and Catherine have? It wouldn't have been played up in his PR for we commoners to know . . . but the insiders would have known all about it. Which is how Meghan would have known which one of Harry's old flames she really had to play up a resemblance to.
@enbrethiliel,

It gets even more convoluted. Look at the names, the connections and the funding on Paddle 8's Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddle8


Pippa does look unhappy, doesn't she? I think she was desperate to get married after Kate's wedding, and she settled for the first man she could land who was wealthy.
'Morning Everyone , busy day day for me. I'll be back later!
Nutty Flavor said…
Good morning, all!

Just a quick follow-up with the Althea Bernstein case (the biracial girl who received a supportive phone call from Meghan after reporting a hate crime.)

The local Madison newspaper says "no news available" - still. No video footage released, no suspects sought, no arrests. The crime was reported two months ago.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/madison-police-spokesman-gives-update-in-alleged-hate-crime-against-biracial-teen

The folks at Lipstick Alley are also starting to suspect a hoax.

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/althea-bernstein-update.3761234/
Ralph L said…
The demand for hate crimes far exceeds the supply in the US.
Magatha Mistie said…

Charles often receives bad press
Blamed for Harrys unholy mess
Many laughed and guffawed
At the organic Lord
But it’s now plain to see
He was right with his plea
He’s adroit, and displays much finesse
Magatha Mistie said…

Megs and her daily reminder
Of what she’ll do next, is a blinder
How much we can stand
From the hag with no brand
Is yet just another no-brainer

Dallas Alice said… Megs, you make me wish I had more middle fingers.

This made me snort my coffee, what a great phrase!



OT: I know it's a long shot, but does anyone have any advice about catching a racing pigeon? Even longer shot... Does anyone here happen to be missing one? lol stranger things have happened.

A beautiful white one has been visiting my feeder for a few weeks now, I was content to just enjoy watching her visits until a few days ago when I saw one of her rings is now stuck above her knee, after Googling I found out this isn't a good thing and needs sorting out in case it stops blood flow. The standard "throwing of the towel/sheet" isn't an option as she only settles on the head-height feeder which is the type with decorative arches above it - I've tried leaving seed on a stool nearby instead but she won't come down to it and just sits in the empty tray staring at me through the window. I've also tried going out and gently rattling the tub of seed while talking to her and slowly moving closer, she's curious and quite calm about it but as soon as I get within a few feet she's off to sit on the roof and wait for me to back off. It's been suggested to scatter seed loudly on the path outside my shed to see if she'll think it's a loft and go inside but it seems I'd have to move the shed to go down that route as it's the other side of the house and I haven't been able to tempt her to that side. And just to complicate matters, she appears to have some adult babies who have been visiting with her (they're also white but with feral pigeon coloured accents, no rings); she's been trying to actively drive them off the feeder the last couple of days instead of eating with them so I'm assuming they're ready for independence and she's trying to encourage them to find their own food sources.

Once I've caught her I can take her to a vet to get the ring sorted and contact the owner (can't get close enough to read the rings to fill the online forms in to get contact details, tried taking zoomed in photos but it's never clear enough to read), I'm just a bit of a loss at how to go about the catching part of it.
Unknown said…
re: Pippa Middleton's Marriage (part 2)

Sorry if I didn't make it clear, rumor is Pippa *did not* want to get involved with Harry. Harry however was very interested in pursuing Pippa. Pippa would have preferred to marry into old aristocratic lines but was locked out of those social circles.

I tend to agree with that assessment. I also agree with @Aquagirl that Harry's feelings/attraction for Kate and the Middletons would have been a huge factor in why he was interested in Pippa. Rache's similar appearance to Pippa made me think Harry had some genuine feelings. I do realize it could be a coincidence.

I also forget to mention that rumor was the BRF was highly invested in Pippa getting married. They were not happy with the prospect of Pippa cashing in on her royal connections and were interested in her marrying rich so she wouldn't need to work. They also wanted to avoid possible embarrassments in Pippa's life splashing back onto Kate and the BRF.
Unknown said…
@Lurking with Spoon I wish I could help. All I can do is send my best wishes you succeed helping that poor beautiful bird.

@Girl with a Hat @Aquagirl @Hikari @Enbrethiliel @JocelynsBellinis
I also feel Pippa looks lonely and unhappy. I also felt she looked madly in love and happiest with Nico Jackson. I wish it had worked out with him. Why they broke up, I have no idea.
Unknown said…
@Enbrethliel I share the same theory your friend does about Wills and his work-shy days. I do believe Wills & Kate are willing to come off as work-shy because they do not want to compete with the older Senior Royals. These are their glory days and they know it's important for the Firm that HMTQ, Charles, Anne, Edward, and Sophie shine for as long as possible. For most people, the numbers matter.

Not only that, Senior Royals need to take on projects for a lifetime. They cannot just take on projects to compete in a numbers game of who does more engagements. When they "inherit" projects down the line that will take up more of their time, that would entail dropping charities and projects because of inevitable over-bookings. That would come off as them prioritizing certain projects as "more important" than others. I see the BRF acting that way as more damaging to the Firm than the younger Senior Royals being seen as work-shy.
Miggy said…
OT: There's an article in the DM about Ron Meyer.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8645747/Two-directors-dated-sex-roles-actress-accused-blackmailing-NBCUniversals-Ron-Meyer.html
Fairy Crocodile said…
I wonder if madam Markle seriously believe she can come back to UK and continue as if nothing happened. That'll make the royals popular, won't it?

For the first time in many decades the ravens of the Tower of London started leaving the premises. The old tale is the monarchy will fall if the ravens leave. The Windsors should be oh so careful.



There's a new Harry Markle post up.

In an earlier post, Harry Markle wrote "All MM ever wanted was to live in a mansion like the ones she used to drive past as a child, and it appears she was determined to get it whatever it took." That sums it up in a nutshell, doesn't it? She grew up in LA with her father in the entertainment industry but he was never a bigwig earning millions of dollars like some of her classmates' fathers. She must have been so envious and decided that when she grew up, she would be able to live like them. So now she's living in a mansion neither she or her husband can afford, hoping her father-in-law's largesse will pay the bills.
jessica said…
Just read over the comments. What stuck out to me was the Variety article. The part where they write that all the virtual summits Meghan spoke at have been unpaid.

If so, WOW.

I have been involved with a tech conference and quickly learned the ropes of the speaking circuit from the organizers side. Absolutely no one attends a conference for free or speaks for free unless you are so low level and/or on a panel and/or the org denied you and you dropped the fee and they fit you in. Sponsors pay all the fees (through the org).

So this says a few things. She’s been rejected from attending. She has not been invited (which her PR keeps admitting), and no one wants to pay her/can’t justify paying her. With even just her popularity, it’s amazing to me she can’t bag even a small income from these gigs.

Says all you need to know, really.

@Flore said…
They do bring the worst in each other, don’t they? They are a match made in hell! She and her PR team keep flooding the internet with nonsense stories about her “ambitions”. In my opinion, 9 out of 10 stories are untrue. The presidency bid is one very good example of this strategy. The bigger the lie the better. She is fishing for any opportunity in the current BLM mouvement. Plus, it’s a way of raising her profile and what people think of her. Oh wow MM could be president!!! She wants people to see/hear her and talk about her! That’s all. She wants people to believe that she could do it if she ever put her mind to it. She is a joke. She believes she can! It’s like telling your kid they can be anything they want to be and them never outgrowing that loving lie LOL
Whether you agree or not with Blair, the Obamas and the Clintons, we have at least to give them credit for serious higher education and many years spent working in and out of office. They are older and wiser but most importantly they have a very interesting and lucrative network due to years spent in powerful positions. The gruesome twosome have zero experience, nearly zero education and no network. So why would anyone hire them for a speaking engagement?? Other than having the wives of rich CEOs have their picture taken with a prince?? Nobody is interested in her. This is why she is jumping on the BLM wagon and sadly I think the Black community is so desperate for “role models” and figureheads that they are letting her have her way. She is meddling for sure but she is still a nobody. What was shocking was her dig towards not the BRF but mostly the constitutional monarchy. “My husband has never voted” was a very public and cheap shot towards the whole political system and that should not be allowed. She has “found her voice again” as if her brief time within the BRF was like being held in a medieval harem! If the hapless has an inch of self respect (and I know he hasn’t) he should stay out of this political nonsense and forbid her from talking about his “lost voice”. Although I am not a fan, I do wish PP was still in charge to take care of joke and woke! Maybe William will??
Enbrethiliel said…
@Charade
I also forget to mention that rumor was the BRF was highly invested in Pippa getting married. They were not happy with the prospect of Pippa cashing in on her royal connections and were interested in her marrying rich so she wouldn't need to work. They also wanted to avoid possible embarrassments in Pippa's life splashing back onto Kate and the BRF.

This is interesting! And highly plausible.

James Middleton, on the other hand, has taken a much longer time even to get engaged. Did the Royal Family also want him married and settled as soon as possible, and he just didn't follow their timeline as well as Pippa did? Or was it just Pippa who seemed like a big risk?
xxxxx said…
Pippa is quite the athlete. She has run at least one marathon and went on long bike rides before marriage. Kate is sporty too, but Pippa sets the pace on this.
Miggy said…
Prince Harry says the Queen has 'achieved everything she wanted' with the Commonwealth as Meghan speaks about continuing Her Majesty's 'legacy' in conversation with young leaders.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8647045/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-join-video-call-young-leaders-Queens-Commonwealth-Trust.html
JHanoi said…
that statement a- makes it seem they are speaaking for HM and b- that she’s done, retired, or worse.
he doesn’t speak for HM anymore imo
JHanoi said…
i should say, he doenst represent HM anymore as a sub-figurehead, he’s just Harry the Quitter
Enbrethiliel said…
@Jessica
Does their PR hate them??? First saying that they weren't invited to these conferences that are supposed to be a big deal. And now admitting that they did three unpaid gigs in a row.

The second part might look really dedicated and unselfish to the average person, but it just tells organizers of future conferences that they can have her for nothing. If Meghan was hoping to do a few things for free in order to drum up some interest in her as a speaker, well, her PR just shot her in the foot.
Enbrethiliel said…
@JHanoi

A new set of nicknames for them could be Quitter and Shitter, but it was Number One, not Number Two that Meghan did in the woods. Oh, well . . .
lizzie said…
@Enbrethiliel asked about James Middleton:

"Did the Royal Family also want him married and settled as soon as possible, and he just didn't follow their timeline as well as Pippa did? Or was it just Pippa who seemed like a big risk?"

I'll be interested in @Charade's reply, but from my POV, Pippa was more of a problem than James and his marshmallows. Her disastrous cookbook, her try-out to be a host on American TV, offers to appear on Oprah...There were stories saying Will told her to step back and focus on charity work..

"The reason for her 'vanishing act' from the limelight is because she has been 'quietly and diplomatically reined in' by Prince William, say friends."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3602589/Has-Wilful-Wills-reined-Pippa-Prince-haunted-Fergie-s-antics-guidance-sister-law-REAL-reason-s-jobless.html

Realistically too, even in this day and age, it's more acceptable for a woman to not have an identifiable job than a man. So reining in James could have been problematic.
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JHanoi said…
my favorite line in the DM comments - sometimes you find a ‘floater’ i the toilet that won’t flush away. reminds me of Meghan and Wtas his Name
CatEyes said…
@emeraldcity

Thank you for the arthritis remedy!! Already have a nice glass jar and will get the lemon and rubbing alcohol today. My brother would certainly try something so straightforward.

@Lurking with Spoon

I would try contacting a Racing Pigeon club (probably find one by googling) even if its a few hundred miles from you. They may have a member who lost the bird and give you needed advise. Not all banded birds are racing birds. Many breeders band their birds for ID purposes like any foul (I used to own pigeons as a teenager.)

If that doesn't happen you could buy a pigeon trap door and installing it on a large wooden box and put a few grains of food outside the door and a trail of grains leading into the box with more food inside. The pigeon goes into the door and then can't get back out. Amazon sells pigeon wire doors (as low as $11).

Good luck! I would like to know how things turn out. :)
CatEyes said…
Sorry typo "...like any fowl"
lizzie said…
@Lurking with Spoon,

You mentioned trying to take the bird to the vet if you could catch it. If you know of an avian vet in your area, that office may have info about local pigeon clubs. If it is a racer, I realize it may not be local but that may be a place to start.
@Lurking with Spoon

@Lizzie


Assuming your're in UK:

I caught a stray racing pigeon once - it was sitting on my window sill was clearly exhausted. I rang Blue Cross for advice and they put me on to the racing pigeon authorities who then sent a courier to collect the bird (I kept in my wicker `Ali Baba laundry basket until the chap turned up.

Quote the number on its ring if you can manage to read it.

See Royal Racing Pigeon Association - https://www.rpra.org/. Contact details are on this site.

Grateful owner rang up & thanked me.
Aquagirl said…
Re: Pippa vs. James
Pippa was always much more in the public eye than James. And her appearance as Kate’s maid-of-honor, showcasing her beautiful ass-ets, brought her much more attention post wedding. James has always lead a more private life, and except for occasional appearances at Wimbledon, is happy to be with his dogs. I don’t see the BRF seeing him as a threat.
PS And I threw a cloth over the basket to keep the bird calm.
@Ralph L:

Very droll, I love it!
Unknown said…
@Enbrethliel @lizzie Just Pippa because they were worried about who was trying to hire her and who was trying to court her. Like @lizzie mentioned, Pippa had a slew of very public embarrassments and they wanted to prevent more happening.

While the BRF is mindful of how the public perceives the Middletons "cashing in," James is a son and considered presumptive heir of his family's business. He's not royal so it's okay if he makes money but there are lines that can be crossed.

As for timelines, I think age in general is more of a factor for women. Bea supposedly felt embarrassed not being married by 30 and by Eugenie being married before her.
CatEyes said…
@Puds

I'm didn't see your post or I wouldn't have written mine. But about the net, I forgot that I have used one for loose young chickens and ducks. I have a classic fishing net taped to a pole for extra length. I agree one must be careful because the bird may get its head trough a hole so you don't want to yank. Now my little dog (looks like a West Highland White Terrier) has learned to go after a bird upon command and put a paw on them, thus holding them down until I get there.

@Lurking with a Spoon

Maybe a butterfly net would be better. However birds can learn very quickly that you are trying to catch them and will get wary if you miss.
LavenderLady said…
@Cat Eyes,
Re: your shyness- I'm spooky that way. Not psychic but pick up energies :)

@Girl With A Hat,
I found your mentioning of your brother's fascination with the Titanic really interesting. My son also! He binged on Robert Ballard's videos as a child. So sorry for the loss of your brother. I will sigh a prayer for you both since his birthday is coming up soon. Hugs

@Emerald City,
Thank you for the remedies! Yes the shingles sores are healed but it's that dreaded residual nerve pain that is lingering. I will look for the Amber tincture. I am getting the vaccine in a few days at the pharmacy. Had to wait a certain amount of time after the medication. I should have had it two years ago but that's a long story I won't go into it.

* * * * *
So now H&M are on video (from Santa Barbara-we think!) blathering on about how they will carry on the Queen's legacy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8647045/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-join-video-call-young-leaders-Queens-Commonwealth-Trust.html

Incredibly weary of their yada, yada yada. I can't watch it- just got the link and left that site...ugh.
Unknown said…
"Don't come to the table with a problem unless you've got a solution" .....wtf does that even mean???
luxem said…
MeMe in US politics -

I watched the DNC last night and beyond Hillary were some very powerful stories from women. One in particular was Gabby Giffords, former AZ congresswomen shot in the head by a disgruntled/mentally ill constituent. She said "I struggle to speak, but have not lost my voice." Put Gabby's experience next to MeMe and her "I lost my voice by choosing to join the apolitical Royal Family" and MeMe's "experience" is just laughable!

Today we hear that MeMe feels "incredible pride" to represent the Commonwealth on the Queen's behalf. What US politician/party wants to associate with a woman who is representing the Queen on anything (and has a royal title to boot)? It appears she is trying to get back into the good graces of the Queen, but her own desire to represent the Commonwealth means she forfeits her right to represent the US. Trying to straddle these two interests SHOULD not be allowed and I hope the DNC ignores her.
Aquagirl said…
@Luxem: Gabby Giffords is such a brave woman!

I honestly think that Megsy is losing it. Is the real meaning of the Sussexes ‘half in, half out’ plan to represent the US half the time and the UK half the time? It’s unbelievably ridiculous, It should NOT be allowed, and her titles should be removed immediately. The situation would almost be funny if she wasn’t such a scary narcissist.
CookieShark said…
Damage control. If they truly own that house they know they need the cash coming in.
It makes no sense. You can't carry on or represent anything when you've abandoned your post.
They are hangers on.
Megsie (Pigsie?/Miss Piggy?) in politics?

Could HM legitimately attempt to rein in M's political aspirations in the US? I think she'd demur on the grounds that the bloody woman is a US citizen on US soil.

As SwampWoman said...
`She's an American citizen that lives in America. She's free to join any organization that will have her and agitate for whatever cause she believes in.'

Sticking her nose into UK politics is quite another matter.


The RF learned the hard way, back in 1649 & 1688, not to meddle in the politics of the realm. I've long thought that calling the heir `Charles' was a bad move, although the other Stuart name, Anne, hasn't proved to be bad ju-ju.

Our Constitutional Monarchy is based on the understanding that the Monarch & her/his kin do not get involved in controversial/political matters, much as they would perhaps like to. We've done alright over the last 400+ years - watching the French Revolution and the Russian Revolution from the sidelines has underlined the value of that approach.

The Banqueting House scaffold, the guillotine and Ekaterinberg cast a long shadow over our monarchy.
LavenderLady said…
Going to get a bit crude here so spoiler alert!

Yesterday I watched LCC's new video. She said something that made me laugh harder than I have laughed in over a month.

She said Meghan has Harry "tied up by his short poo poo hairs", explaining it's a Jamaican saying.

I laughed so hard at *how she said it* my tummy was aching and I had tears rolling down my face.

With her great command of the English language, her decorum (most of the time!), her knowledge of history and the aristocracy, in the setting of Castle Goring, it was the last thing I thought would come out of her mouth. It's toward the end of the vid. I don't have a timestamp. It's worth checking out.

She's the bomb and yes she chewed La Markle a new one big time. Her best vid yet IMO.

Since we've been potty mouths here lately just though I'd put in my contribution.

(I'm imagining John Lennon saying it in his snarky, Liverpool accent, or even funnier Prince Charles saying it while putzing around and I'm howlin... :D :D :D
Grisham said…
FWIW, enty says Pippa was a yacht girl who liked her “nose candy”, so if we are speculating, maybe Pippa met Meghan while they were both yachting (sarcasm to prove a point....)


Also, I guess only in England would a rich woman be called “middle class”, as in the US, the Middletons would certainly not qualify as middle class.
LavenderLady said…
@Unkown,
"Don't come to the table with a problem unless you've got a solution" .....wtf does that even mean???

*******
Seems to me if La Markle is saying it she means only the great minds (and big mouths) of the world can be at the same table with her. Never mind the quiet, thoughtful folks at the table who may be the very ones who find the solution because they are not busy blowing their own horns...

BTW she's looking mighty orange these days. Maybe it's a symptom of Megalomania NPD.
Re Lady CC, plus our paradists, wits and versifiers-

I like to think we are operating in the best tradition of 18th Century scurrilous satire - I think there was also some in the 17thC but offending Charles I was likely to lead to desperately ferocious penalties such as losing one's nose, ears and/or tongue.

Perhaps we are also following WS Gilbert in the 19th C, of whom it was said:

`His foe was Folly and his weapon was wit'.

Thank you all.
HappyDays said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said…
Megsie (Pigsie?/Miss Piggy?) in politics?

Could HM legitimately attempt to rein in M's political aspirations in the US? I think she'd demur on the grounds that the bloody woman is a US citizen on US soil.

As SwampWoman said...
`She's an American citizen that lives in America. She's free to join any organization that will have her and agitate for whatever cause she believes in.'

Sticking her nose into UK politics is quite another matter.

@ WBBM:
Yes, Meghan is still a US citizen, but to join any group and agitate for any cause can criss a line within the royal family. She is still a member of one of the oldest institutions on the planet and she draws her entire lifestyle and public image from that institution. To flaunt the rules based on the technicality of being a US citizen is incredibly bad form.

Meghan is basically asking all titles and funding to be cut at the one year review. She is still a member of the royal family, and even if she isn’t making official appearances representing HMTQ, what Meghan says and does still reflects on the institution she currently belongs to. They don’t call it The Firm for nothing, and she is still representing The Firm.

The US and UK also have had a long positive relationship. Meghan shooting off her mouth or associating with inappropriate people or groups could cause problems in the UK’s relationship with the US or any other country. Prince Andrew’s association with Jeffery Epstein is an example of the damage that can be done.
CatEyes said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid

Thank you for your historical references, as it makes me search out more info on subjects I would not normally! :)

@Pink Peony

Thank you also, as I would not have gone to the You tube videos but I will now for a "larf".
Hikari said…
Aquagirl wrote:

Re: Pippa vs. James
Pippa was always much more in the public eye than James. And her appearance as Kate’s maid-of-honor, showcasing her beautiful ass-ets, brought her much more attention post wedding. James has always lead a more private life, and except for occasional appearances at Wimbledon, is happy to be with his dogs. I don’t see the BRF seeing him as a threat.


I concur. The moneyed circles (especially old money, which the Middletons aren't, but they run with that crowd) is incredibly chauvinistic. Well, primogeniture and all that. As long as a girl is beautiful, as the Middleton sisters are, and thrown together with the 'right' sorts so as to make an advantageous marriage . . she doesn't need high-falutin' education or a career. Indeed, too much career ambition for a female is only a hindrance. After graduating from St. Andrews, Kate was a dilettante, dipping a little into fashion buying, a bit into photography for her dad's firm, but her main job was to stay pretty and available for Wills whenever he might call. She took a lot of luxe vacations and hit the clubs plenty. Her art history degree gathered dust, though I daresay it could come in handy now that she is in such close proximity to one of the world's greatest art collections.

A pretty unattached single gal-about-town with the money to list 'socialite' as her primary occupation (read: husband-hunting) is a dangerous animal on the loose. That's a recipe for all sorts of potentially scandalous behavior. Cf. Princess Margaret/Paris Hilton, et al. Not surprised the Palace wanted to have Pippa 'settled'.

James is the youngest Middleton, but as the boy of the family was always going to be taken more seriously and have the expectations put upon him for a profession. Since we saw him at 24 at Catherine's wedding, he has been an integral part of the Middleton business empire, heading up some of his own divisions. His worth is not measured by his looks, though he is just as attractive as his sisters. Great genetics in that family. The Middleton sisters were educated and moneyed, but they would not be the subjects of global interest (and one of them the future Queen of England) if they had been plain. Their faces are their fortunes.

Catherine and Pippa look so different, it's hard to believe they are sisters, until you see their parents. Catherine is a dead ringer for her mother Carole--a picture of young mum Carole with baby Catherine in the 1980s made me think I was looking at a pic of Kate, only with lighter hair. Pippa favors her father Michael. Baby brother James seems to be a mix of both parents. Their beauty is distinctive to each, but I actually think Pippa is the prettier one. I'm sorry to hear that her marriage is unhappy, but I suppose she's got compensations in her lifestyle, and her little boy. I feel for her. Being the younger, prettier sister of the future Queen is a tough spot to be in. Just like Margaret, Pippa's actions are going to be scrutinized for the rest of her life, and it will only ramp up once her sister is Queen consort. Any marital messiness or personal missteps for Pippa are going to be tabloid fodder forever. James too, but as the lower-profile boy, he's going to duck most of it, as he has so far.

I was extremely impressed with the poise of the entire Middleton family on Catherine's wedding day. For mere 'commoners', they did their class proud. Pippa's elegant bum basically stole the show away from her sister, and James gave a masterful Scripture reading that was better than the professional church guys present. The whole family is going to be under a microscope for as long as their daughter/sister is part of the Royal family. They will always be the grandparents/aunt/uncle of the future King, as well as the in-laws of another.
Hannah said…
Just heard news of nefarious Russians trying to extort Rachel over a “sex tape“ that they are touting ownership of. The racist Russians have described it as Rachel giving oral sex, but really the tape is just two squirrels eating nuts in a dumpster.

This is my joke of the day!
LavenderLady said…
@Cat Eyes,
Enjoy the larf :)

@WBBM,
RE: satire, Yes! Thanks for the info I will look them up too :)

@Hikari,
James Middleton is my secret crush. Sweet, kind, loving to his pets, quirky, slim, sensitive, gorg, especially with facial hair...lucky girl his fiance.

Have a great day Nutties :)
Maneki Neko said…
@Enbrethiliel & JHanoi


A new set of nicknames for them could be Quitter and Shitter, but it was Number One, not Number Two that Meghan did in the woods. Oh, well . . .
________________________
Quitter and Bitter? Quitter and grifter?
Good point about the harm done to the relationship between Uk adn US, Happy Days.

She's a diplomatic disaster, whichever way you look at it.
abbyh said…
Good morning or day.

Racing pigeon - you got some good ideas (hadn't thought of the avian vet). I was thinking of a wild life rehabber where they need a license from the state or wild life save them group. The other was pet stores who sell bird food as they will likely either have someone who is their bird specialist or they may know one of the clients who is that bird specialist.

CW video - snort. More than sucking up to HM. Why wouldn't it have been removed? IDK, maybe it is a test to see how they behave towards it/the BRF during this year?

"Don't come to the table unless you have a solution."
Actually, this is pretty good advise. Don't come whining about a problem, come with at least one solution.
I had a boss who was based half the state away and would count on me to let me know how things were going in the territory. So where there was a problem, I would let her know and then go on with "this is how I think would be a good way to handle this blah, blah, blah."

Gabby I have respect for.

ooo Quitter and Bitter. Those are ... accurate.
charade said… Bea supposedly felt embarrassed not being married by 30 and by Eugenie being married before her.

I've always felt a bit uncomfortable with this reasoning whenever I've seen it mentioned in the media (I know you're just repeating it, I'm not getting at you personally). Don't get me wrong, I like Bea and really hope it all works out for her, but going into a relationship because you're worried about not being in a relationship is normally one of the worst reasons for doing it as you're looking at it from the wrong end. Instead of "how will this person compliment my life" it's more like "I must be in a relationship with someone to complete me because I don't want to be alone", which isn't healthy in my opinion - although to be fair I could be totally biased from my experiences with my ex who did see me as a commodity to "complete him" rather than an individual in my own right.

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OT :
@Puds, Cateyes, Lizzie, WBBM (and anyone I may have missed): Thanks for the tips!

I always forget about Youtube as a source of how-to videos, it's like a mental blind spot lol I'll go and have a look and see what's out there. We do have a local ex-racing breeder at the end of the road I've spoken to (she gave me the shed suggestion as that's how she's always caught hers) but she's elderly and has had to retire from breeding/racing after a stroke so is limited regarding practical help. Plus I feel bad going to her again about it as she's not in good health and conversing over a fence at an acceptable social distance visibly tired her out. She's offered to keep an eye out and if the pigeon ends up at hers she'll try and entice her into her vacant loft so I can nip up and catch her that way, but that's as much help as I feel comfortable accepting from her.

I'll definitely try the box method (or a variant of); I think I have enough spare wood behind the shed to build a sturdy platform to get a box up to her comfortable feeding height near the feeder, and run a length of garden twine through the window so I can close the box "remotely" once she's safely inside.

The risk of losing what little trust I've so far built up is what's made me wary of trying anything likely to have her directly associate me with a frightening experience without having a reasonable expectation of success, I know with my own budgies that they can be spooked by the most random things and boy do they *remember*! I'd had them about a year and one took exception to being covered one night despite it being a nightly ritual they were both more than used to, it took months for her to properly get over it and I still get the stink-eye at bed time even now.

(split into two posts due to character limit, the downside of drafting in Wordpad)
Cont...

I'll give the RPRA a ring and see what they say, although so far I've not been able to read the rings so they might not be able to successfully match her to a missing pigeon report on description alone. She seems to be healthy enough (clear eyes/cere, looks nicely rounded/not underweight, feathers in good condition etc - although admittedly I'm going by the signs of a healthy budgie as that's what I know lol), it's just that stuck ring that's worrying me. If I can't contact an owner (or the owner isn't interested if I can contact one) I think she'll be quite happy living as she is, none of her "babies" are ringed and they seem to be just about ready to head off on their own. I wouldn't detain her for longer than needed to get the ring off/read the info and immediately release her (I'd ask a vet to do a home visit if I had to so she could stay in sight of the babies) if they were still dependent, plus the original owner might not want an instant surprise family.

I am slightly tempted to build my own pigeon loft but I already know what hubby's opinion on that will be without asking him as we already have a whole household of pets ~sheepish grin~ I think only the budgies and the pond fish have been planned purchases from a shop/breeder, the rest have all been either from local animal rescues or local families offering them "free to a good home" in a local shop - or knocking on the door to ask if we'd take them in because "they'd heard we take in strays" (thankfully the chinchilla came with her cage). Every time I mention the pigeons, I can see him silently praying we don't end up with them too! haha

Ironically, a couple of hours ago, one of the "babies" came on its own and ended up eating seed from my hand when I went to put some out for it - it's just typical that this one isn't the one I need to get hold of! I had to name this one... Merida - because it's Brave lol (you may groan). I'm hoping the mother was nearby watching and might trust me to get a little closer if she's seen that another pigeon she knows is willing to trust me.

Hopefully I've done this right, never used Google Photos before:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Chq266aa6xRUQjTN6


Apologies for all the rambling and going off topic, I'll let everyone carry on with the usual programming now and just drop a short update with the outcome for those who asked for updates.

Also apologies in advance for any posts that might have landed while I've been typing, got to go get the oven on now to start on dinner but I'll be back either later tonight or tomorrow :o)
AnyaAmasova said…
@Variety of Nutties

Was the supposed payout for Megs to cancel the wedding ceremony itself or the marriage to Harry?

Meg did not get a carpet runner in St. George's Chapel. I believe I read where royal brides receive a blue carpet runner for the aisle, save for the marriages of the heirs (Prince Charles and Prince William.) They typically marry at Westminster Abbey and have a red carpet. Charles of course married Diana at St. Paul's (apparently a one-off, historically), because he was actually the POW at the time and his wedding was such a large state occasion. They needed the extra space St Paul's offers.

Someone for Meg spun the carpet issue as her choice. Or did HMTQ nix a blue carpet runner?
Enbrethiliel said…
@Lizzie and @Charade
Thanks for your answers! I don't follow the Middletons very closely in general, so I missed most of Pippa's embarrassing incidents!

@Puds
Not sure why people are going after Pippa, she keeps her head down, dosen't seek publcity, is not a drama Queen, holds no office. So why be mean girls?

I know only really know Bridesmaid Pippa and Married Pippa, both of whom seem very low-key -- and I'm certainly not trying to have a go at all her incarnations in between. But it's because I knew so little about her before today that I had to ask exactly why BP thought she might be a liability.

As @Hikari has pointed out, it can't be easy being the sister of the future queen consort. For all the doors the connection opens, there are just as many that one may be pressured into closing. The things Pippa were pursuing weren't inherently wrong, though her position made them kind of cringey. It's a testament to her loyalty to her sister and brother-in-law that she dropped them instead of, say, trying to find freedom or something.
lizzie said…
@Lurking with Spoon,

Cool photo! Good luck.
Miggy said…
@Puds,

Someone on Skippy's tumbler has also posted a photo from the book that says that Archie was 10 months old in South Africa.
Aquagirl said…
@Anya: A pay-off to cancel everything and walk away.
Aquagirl said…
Also, the lack of a carpet was NOT her choice.
Maneki Neko said…
CCN says

Despite interest from fans, Meghan Markle and Prince Harry will not be featured in the Netflix show The Crown.

The popularity of The Crown has gotten fans asking if it’ll cover the current situation surrounding Meghan Markle and Prince Harry.
Some deluded Sussex fans even want Meghan to play herself in the series.
Showrunner Peter Morgan has put the dampener on such ideas, though, and likely saved himself a lot of trouble in the process.


Well, that's a relief!

https://www.ccn.com/meghan-markle-prince-harry-netflix-snub/

LavenderLady said…
@abbyh,
"Don't come to the table unless you have a solution."
Actually, this is pretty good advise. Don't come whining about a problem, come with at least one solution.
I had a boss who was based half the state away and would count on me to let me know how things were going in the territory. So where there was a problem, I would let her know and then go on with "this is how I think would be a good way to handle this blah, blah, blah."

I hear you. It was me who sat at the head of the table back in my career days. I made the final decision. I made it a point to get everyone's advice/input before I made the final call. That's good team building. But, I found the loudest, pushiest also tended to be the ones who either took credit for other's ideas or just loved the sound of their own voice. This is the one Meghan would be. She'd get the gavel real quick at my table...

Thanks for your thoughts!
AnyaAmasova said…
@Aquagirl,

Thank you. Most of us would have gotten the message; I am not welcome in this family.
Anonymous said…
From DM:

'It's an honour to continue your grandmother's legacy': Meghan Markle admits she 'didn't know' about the Commonwealth until she joined 'The Family' as she and Prince Harry speak to young leaders


The sucking up/damage control continues.

hunter said…
I don't think Pippa is prettier than Kate at all, I think her face is a bit squinched looking.

Interesting note about the blue carpet. I can't help but think EVERYONE with background knowledge of royal protocol would have found something odd about that.
JHanoi said…
Quitter and Bitter, I like it!
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/Sugarfreezone2/status/1296438277172600833

oh my this is completely too hilarious for words.
JHanoi said…
looks are all subjective, but I’ve alway thought Kate to be the prettier of the 2 Middleton girls.
Pippa is cute, but she’s looked older and more stressed (except during Kates MM years) sundamaged than Kate. But Kates had a rough couple of years until now so they’re both looking their age. and Kate looks more regal to me, may be her height.
My Frozen comparision - kinda of like Elsa = Kate and Anna = Pippa.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@Girl with a Hat -- Hahahahaha! I retweeted that one too, myself :D -- hope it goes viral!

https://twitter.com/Sugarfreezone2/status/1296438277172600833
Girl with a Hat said…
@Lt. isn't that hilarious?
JHanoi said…
i agree with Pink, in my work world, when there’s a problem it;’s always best to present it to the boss/ powers that be with different options or a plan on how to resolve it. It’s probably the similar in the Military, where i imagine JCMH got his work experience.
Maneki Neko said…
@JHanoi

Quitter and Bitter, I like it!

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That's all I could find, I tried to do better but all I can come up with is quitter and witter - as MM is always wittering about something.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Girl with a Hat said...
@Lt. isn't that hilarious?

Epically hilarious!! I predict it will go down in the annals of All-Time Best Mockery of the Harkles Ever :D
lizzie said…
I guess I understand the meaning of the saying about not coming to the table without a solution. I've been in supervisory roles and regularly hearing workplace complaints uttered simply for the sake of complaining is usually not productive.

But Harry and Meghan weren't speaking as supervisors in an organization, much less as supervisors of the Commonwealth. So I still think it was a dumb thing for Harry, "Everybody has unconscious biases," to say. If you really want people to examine their histories, their hearts and their unconscious minds (?) then telling them to go away until they can solve "The Problem Du Jour" doesn't make sense. If you really want to bring people together, then demanding a certain level of understanding and expertise before allowing admittance to "The Group" doesn't make sense. If you really want to be inclusive (including culturally inclusive-- not that they really do) then demanding a specific way of thinking and a certain type of thinking isn't useful.

Just doesn't seem inspiring to me. Kind of like saying "Ask not what your country can do for you-- ask what you can do for your country that fits my way of thinking. First, your contribution must be well-planned out and must lead to measurable outcomes in these cstegories...."
Dallas Alice said…
Has Megs hitched her wagon to Kamala yet? Boy, oh boy. She must be hella mad another biracial woman is in the headlines (for actually accomplishing some stuff). I am not trying to be political, btw.
Dallas Alice said…
To be honest, I think it’s f***ing hilarious Megs thinks anyone with an IQ considered to be in the “ok, you don’t eat paint chips” category would give a rats rear what she has to say. Harry is just a mumbling hot mess, minus the hot. Their dog and pony show is quite entertaining.
Hikari said…
Catching up on some of the articles helpfully posted by WB last night now that I can see properly. This bit from Charlie Parker is a wheeze:

Meghan, 39, appears to have abandoned acting but she did narrate a film about elephants for Disney Plus, the streaming service.

More spin, 'cause acting abandoned Meg, not the other way around. It was mere weeks ago that she was supposedly 'in talks' for a role in an MCU film or as the next Bond girl. Then she released her current project, remodeling Sussex Court West and we haven't heard about her acting ambitions for at least several days.

I don't think Pippa is prettier than Kate at all, I think her face is a bit squinched looking.

Catherine definitely looks the more regal of the two, but then, she's been training to look regal for the last decade. C. looks like a knockout in clothes (not a fan of the Erdem stuff because even she looks dowdy in those) . . but she has certainly grown into her role over the years. Pippa has always had a more approachable, earthy sort of vibe, and I like her dimples. I can see her as a Hardyesque milkmaid type.

Kate can at times look rather brittle, but over these last couple of years, I think most of that has been due to Markle. K. has certainly seemed more relaxed and happy during quarantine than we have seen from her recently. I think having the Toxic Duo around was a real drain and strain on everyone who had to deal with them, but Kate took the brunt of a lot of it. William may be been it for it too, but he never had to shepherd Markle around at the tennis or tolerate the Claw pawing at his back. Nor does William front much with a happy face when he's not feeling it, but Catherine has been sucking it up and smiling no matter what. The Commonwealth Day services in 2019 and this year were exceptions--Markle seems to save up her beastliest behavior for those occasions. I have never seen Catherine look so grim as those Commonwealth Day appearances alongside the Dumbfarkles.
Grisham said…
Weren’t they speaking to a leadership conference? So don’t come to the table without at least one solution is good advice. Don’t just complain— when having meetings with superiors, being to the table the problem and how you see ways to solve those problems. In other words, be self-sufficient as much as possible.

That is how I interpreted it. 🤷🏼‍♀️
Karl Lagerfeld on Kate and Pippa Middleton (not very charitable toward Pippa, but refreshingly direct):

The designer, 78, said Pippa Middleton should “only show her back”, saying she “struggles” with her looks.
Lagerfeld, who apologised to singer Adele earlier this year after condemning her as “too fat”, has given a harsh critique of 28-year-old Miss Middleton.

In contrast, he has praised sister the Duchess of Cambridge for her “romantic” beauty and “nice silhouette”.
He has also given his approval for her marriage to the Duke of Cambridge, conceding she was the “right girl for that boy”.
Lagerfeld's comments, disclosed by the Sun newspaper, appear to have been made during a discussion of the Middleton sisters’ styles.

KL on Princess Diana:

In 2006, Lagerfeld branded the People’s Princess “stupid” in an interview with New York Magazine. Lagerfeld had the honor to meet Prince William and Prince Harry’s mom in 1997. He was also among the many people who attended Princess Diana’s funeral.

“She was pretty and she was sweet, but she was stupid,” Lagerfeld said of Princess Diana.
AnyaAmasova said…
@Dallas Alice
worse off than "ok, you don't eat paint chips" category

try "they ride the short bus and lick the windows"
The link to the DM article today with the Harkles trying to suck up to HM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8647045/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-join-video-call-young-leaders-Queens-Commonwealth-Trust.html
JHanoi said…
liz- in the work world it’s makes sense. but to your point, Haz is just regurgitating a bunch of word salad sayings.
imo, it doesnt pertain here because this isnt work/ military. there is no ‘ boss’ to go to ‘solve’ a problem.

as far as inclusive versus exclusive, the current ethos is to ‘be inclusive’ yet those are the very people that are ‘exclusive’ and ‘cancel‘ others who dont agree with them. it’s very strange. even the Harkles choose to live in that very very ‘exclusive’ neighborhood. they seem to be very classest.
additionally, MM excels at the exclusionary ‘cancel culture’. she’s cancelled old friends, family, dad, BRF, her BFF, and probably more. it MM’s way or the highway!
P.S.—IMO the Queen should appoint the Wessexes as President and VP of the Commonwealth Trust. It’s ridiculous to have a couple that don’t even live in a Commonwealth country to hold those positions.
I'm a bit disappointed that nobody has taken up my previous mentions of WS Gilbert's characters `The Duke and Duchess of Plaza Toro'.

Just because `The Gondoliers' is a sort of `opera' doesn't mean it's snooty or inaccessible. It’s a Victorian satire, lighthearted - but very appropriate for the Sussex context.

You will find that this impoverished dismal ducal duo could be the models on which the H$Ms have built their strategy. The Duke was useless as a soldier, so they have resorted to the kind of antics with which we are all too familiar -she endorses face creams, charges for appearances,and introducing social climbers to Court. All the same old scams!
There’s even a mention of turning oneself into a limited company...

This Victoria College, Toronto, production has excellent diction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfg-uNcc9oE

For the words:
https://cotswoldsavoyards.org/libretti/lib_gon.html#Gondoliers2.10

- Music Music No. 10 "To Help Unhappy Commoners"
Recitative and Duet (Duke and Duchess)

Watch and enjoy! It's a treat.
Note - at the next royal funeral, we dread them turning up to `enjoy an interment'.
Dallas Alice said…
@Anya HAHAHAHA just about spit my tuna salad all over my iPad
AnyaAmasova said…
@Dallas Alice

I read that quote about 2 years ago in a comment on the DM. I think the location for the comment was listed as San Angelo, Texas. It was in reference to someone applauding something stupid. "People who ride the short bus and lick the windows will clap at just about anything." Something like that. When I read that comment, I too almost fainted with laughter.

Shortly after that I shared the comment with my husband and older brother. Both of them, after a quick second to grasp the meaning and the image, burst into laughter so hard. We all grew up in the 60s, 70s & 80s (elementary school, jr. high, high school and early years of college) so we all understood the reference. I sometimes feel badly using the comment, but nothing evokes a stronger reaction.

The comment does however correctly describe the H$rkles' rabid fans.

Dallas Alice said…
@Anya-one of my favorites is “you can’t make chicken salad out of chicken s**t”. Lord knows these two knuckleheads are trying. 😂
Christine said…
Hikari,
For Kate's first public work appearance after her maternity leave with Louis, I thought she looked extremely strained. I have a strong feeling that Meghan Markle has had an extremely negative effect on Kate and William. William probably has more or less said 'f Meghan'pretty much from the start, but Kate probably felt pressure, more than likely from herself only, to befriend and be a help to Meghan. Kate has probably NEVER encountered someone like Meghan Markle. Markle had NO intentions on anything other than positioning herself in front of Kate, both in the Royal Family's and the world's eye. Even though Kate was raised far differently than her husband (in a bubble), I am certain she has never run into the likes of Markle. Few people have actually.

Kate is a beautiful woman and so is Pippa. They are genetically fit and muscular women. I think Kate is a bit facially prettier but Pippa is lovely too. Earthy really describes both women. When Kate and Pip both went to Wimbledon with Meghan, I was so proud of the sisters. It seemed like they were really trying so hard and I am sure Pippa was being supportive and positive for Kate.

I have the strongest sense that as much as the Queen, Prince Charles and Camilla, William, the courtiers and service people have been through, Kate has really been through the worst of it. In the beginning, she's expecting Louis, and probably trying to really be welcoming and upbeat, then William begins to display concerns, which I'm sure she echoed, but tried to dismiss them because I'm sure Kate herself could understand if Meghan felt nervous or intimidated by the transition into Royal life as Kate herself did. Then the wedding comes and with it ALL these problems. Stress and the dawning, scary and then terrifying realization that Meghan is a level 10 narcissist and W&K begind to seriously question motives. Breaking up the Fab 4 arrangement, moving courts, constantly trying to get along with Meghan, having a baby, having 2 other young children to take care of, having these nebulous rumors swirling that William is having an affair with her friend.... all the things that were revealed in the two books and ALL the other stuff we don't know about. I think Kate has been through it and then some.
No wonder that she could pass the foreign service exam if she doesn't know about the Commonwealth. And then she lived in Toronto, and STILL didn't know about the Commonwealth? What rubbish! It's the same kind of story as she didn't know anything about Harry. MM is so impressed with her own superior intelligence and acting prowess(sarcasm), that she feels that these kind of comments will be believed by the stupid common folk.

I think that Lady C had a good point that the Morticia/Cher wig hides a lot of still-healing facial surgery.

@Lurking,

I caught a shore bird with a broken leg with a large soup pot and lid. I looked like a mad woman running around the beach with a huge soup pot, trying to chase the bird, which would quickly hop away on one leg. It could not fly, either. Finally, I was able to scoop it up into the pot, placed it in my shower, and ended up calling a wildlife rescue organization. They picked up the bird and rehabbed it, then sent it out back into nature.

I hope you have success with the pigeon.
Aquagirl said…
@Jocelyn: Don’t forget that she majored in International Studies.
AnyaAmasova said…
OT
@Dallas Alice
LOL.....
Something I have wanted to ask you for a long time. Does your moniker come from "Willin'", the Little Feat/Lowell George song?
My favorite cover of the song is of course by Linda Ronstadt.

"Out on the road late last night, I'd see my pretty Alice in every headlight, Alice, Dallas Alice...."

I bet you are asked this question (and sung to) by many.
Dallas Alice said…
As I anxiously await the presidential/vice presidential debates, I can’t help but wish Megs would actually run for some office of even semi-relevance so I can have the pleasure of seeing her eviscerated by her opponent.
Hikari said…
Karl Lagerfeld on Kate and Pippa Middleton (not very charitable toward Pippa, but refreshingly direct):

The designer, 78, said Pippa Middleton should “only show her back”, saying she “struggles” with her looks.
Lagerfeld, who apologised to singer Adele earlier this year after condemning her as “too fat”, has given a harsh critique of 28-year-old Miss Middleton.

In contrast, he has praised sister the Duchess of Cambridge for her “romantic” beauty and “nice silhouette”.


These remarks were, of course made prior to the Cambridge wedding, so they are quite dated. Both of the Middleton girls looked different in their 20s, and Catherine was not always so elegant and impeccably groomed as she is now. I don't think any of us would have clapped eyes on Pippa before her sister got engaged to Wills, but Kate had been 'waity-ing' around in the wings for William for nearly 10 years and so anybody who read magazines was aware of her, and we've seen her style transformations as they were happening.

Mr. Lagerfeld died in February of 2019, so his thoughts are no longer of any consequence, though it must be nice to have as much money and fame as one ever need and so have carte blanche to be as refreshingly direct (aka caustically b*tchy) as one likes. Divas of the fashion world are especially direct when it comes to running down how people look.

For the record, this is the anorexic ghoul who deemed Pippa as 'struggling with her looks'. Mr. Lagerfeld resembled one of the Undead for decades while he was still with us.

https://verdict.ro/cauza-mortii-lui-karl-lagerfeld-128508

Of course Karl approved of Kate's 'nice silhouette'. Rumors have dogged her for years about an eating disorder, and if reports of 6-hour daily workouts (at least, pre-children) are true, then exercise bulimia as well. Anything to maintain that tiny waist for those close-tailored 'romantic looks' she's got to wear. Karl himself seemed to exist on espresso, cigarettes and snark. Food optional.

He has also given his approval for her marriage to the Duke of Cambridge, conceding she was the “right girl for that boy”.

Because gay men know exactly who is right for each other in heterosexual marriage . . so nice of him to have approved. Well, he appears to have not been wrong about that--but I think his refreshing directness about Pippa was just plain mean-spiritedness without truth. She's got no reason to struggle with her looks, unless she is holding Kate up as the yardstick to compete against. The sisters' physical attributes are very different. Pippa definitely has the more voluptuous figure which a gay man would be apt to find . . .yucky. Catherine is the perfect clothes hanger, so of course she would get high marks. I'd love to know how Pippa was supposed to 'only show her back' in daily life .. wear a burqua and walk backwards at all times? He makes her sound like a dog. She's got a lovely face and no doubt it was her well-formed bosom that would have grossed him out the most from her front.

Thanks for underlining once again what a vapid and warped world the fashion industry is. I'm just as glad that KL has gone to that great big fashion show in the sky because we don't need any more negativity.

Adele is really thin now, having lost over 100 pounds. What a shame KL wasn't around for that because he'd really have to eat his words about her.

Hikari said…
As for Karl's assessment of Diana, I bet that didn't win him any new admirers, but there are kernels of truth in it.

'Pretty, sweet . . and stupid'. Pretty, for sure. Sweet when she wanted to be. 'Stupid' as in non-intellectual, probably, but I think Diana, much like our Megsy, was crafty like a fox. Easily bored by esoteric topics, weighty reading material or too many details, as Charles found out on his honeymoon when he tried to get her interested in the works of Laurens van der Post--a very influential mentor in the Prince's life. Singleminded when she had a project that put herself at front and center, as in when colluding with the Andrew Morton book/Panarama interview or stalking her married lovers and harassing their wives.

I don't know whether Diana's self-assessment of 'thick as two short planks' was down to actual learning difficulties or was just laziness and a a disinclination to apply herself to anything she didn't want to do. I wonder the same thing about her kid. How much of either Harry or Diana's non-achievement was down to sheer bloody-minded *choice* rather than organic problems with their brains? Recklessness is a quality shared by both. I think anyone can be 'stupid' or 'smart' depending on the context. I feel 'smart' in my comfort zone, but put a set of math problems in front of me and I will quickly become an imbecile . . or at least have painful flashbacks to math class in school.

Diana had her gifts . . .we are still searching for Harry's, or if he had them, they are well and truly gone now. I think that light-hearted Prince who was so warm and engaging with people as per anecdotal evidence is well and truly gone. Or maybe he never existed at all--the negative stuff about Harry--the racism/bigotry/insubordination/cheating/rudeness/entitlement complex things that are leaking out do NOT jibe with "Hero Harry who loves meeting the people" as built up by ELF.
Dallas Alice said…
I have said it more than once on this forum and others: Harry’s emotional development stopped, and stopped 100%, when his mother died.
AnyaAmasova said…
@Dallas Alice,

I am a Texas girl too, a few years older. Linda and EmmyLou were ever present in my life, as well as the Eagles.
I will YT the Atlanta performance. I have probably seen it (was she wearing shorts?), but maybe not.

Regarding Megs & politics; run Megs run! Every little dirty detail about your sorted life, you know the details the BRF scrubbed on your behalf, will be exposed in the harsh sunlight of the dry dusty American west.
NeutralObserver said…
Not here to make a comment, but respond to two people who responded to comments of mine.

@ Pink Peony, yes, Anne does seem to have the spine to be a monarch, she might prefer to stay at home with her horses, however.

@WBBM, thank you for your comment on my Harkle nicknames. I enjoy your posts so much.

So many perceptive comments, if I gave a shout out all of the good ones, I'd get carpal tunnel syndrome, & be here for days!
xxxxx said…
Rebecca said...
From DM:

'It's an honour to continue your grandmother's legacy': Meghan Markle admits she 'didn't know' about the Commonwealth until she joined 'The Family' as she and Prince Harry speak to young leaders

Charles and the BRF had their own cynical way they were going to use Meghan. They liked the idea of their freshly minted bi-racial Princess being their bridge to the Commonwealth nations. Most of which are black, brown and third world. At the Commonwealth confabs that H/M held the most enthusiastic participants were from these nations.

Australia, Canada, New Zealand are the white commonwealth nations and they are all becoming multi-racial.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_Commonwealth_of_Nations
xxxxx said…
Emmylou Harris moved to tears by First Aid Kit at Polar Music Prize (so so cute)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi5A9OCAyIk&feature=emb_logo

Graham Parsons also gets a few mentions.
Dallas Alice said…
@xxxxx- oh lawd. I’m a 10th generation Texan. Have (unfortunately) only traveled to a few countries here in North and Central America and even my uncultured self knows about the Commonwealth. Goodness, she’s a piece of work.
Dallas Alice said…
@xxxxx-thank you so much for sharing that. Now, if my son would quit asking me why I’m crying, that would be great.
It was satisfying to watch the duo open themselves to ridicule again.

Markle who supposedly holds an international relations degree and was seriously obsessed with UK and UK's royals not knowing about the Commonwealth? She lived in Canada and paid with money that had the Queen's face on it. She must be an imbecile not to know that Canada belongs to the Commonwealth.

Another pearl of wisdom was calling the Queen "grandmother" and claiming she was going to "continue her legacy". A briefcase girl who couldn't perform the simplest of royal duties will continue the Crown's legacy. Comedy gold.

I can't quite decide if she is mentally deficient or constantly high. Perhaps both.
KC said…


 Hikari said...

That Josh Glancy article of the page is totally vomit inducing! I had to move my phone out of range in case I spewed on it and shorted it out.

Meghan: an A-Lister with t he chips to be President!
-------------,--,
She may have the chips (BULL chips that is) but she sure ain't got the chops for it!

For those puzzled by the chips ref, it refers to bull cr*p not fried potatoes!
Girl with a Hat said…
@Fairy Crocodile, also Meghan talking like the Queen was dead didn't smooth things over with the BRF. And talking like she was the only one who was going to be working with the Commonwealth.

They were incredibly stupid to leave the UK because Charles had planned that while William was being groomed for the throne, Harry and Meghan would play a major role in the Commonwealth. They threw that all away with Megxit.
Hikari said…
@Dallas Alice

I have said it more than once on this forum and others: Harry’s emotional development stopped, and stopped 100%, when his mother died.

I agree with you, but over these last few years, I have come to question whether that one tragic event was the *sole* cause of it. William lost his mother also, and has been open about his own feelings of loss, but even prior to becoming enmeshed in the Middleton family completed his schooling and his military service and had friends and managed to do all of this without sinking into alcohol and substance abuse like his kid brother. William was that crucial 2 years older, but even so, Harry seems to get all the sympathy/passes for being the poor lost bereaved boy. Losing a parent is terrible for any kid, but Harry himself has said publicly that he doesn't remember his mum very well. One might expect this from a man who had been 5 or 6 when his mum passed away, not 2 weeks shy of being 13. Is it a symptom of trauma--the brain blocking painful memories--or just a reflection that by the time Diana died, she was no longer a primary influence in her boys' lives? They stayed with her during school holidays but most of their year was spent away at school. Their summer holidays, at Balmoral, a place Diana hated. That last summer, while the boys were pursuing country sports dad and granddad, Diana was getting photographed on Dodi Fayed's yacht in the South of France. So she wasn't around her boys much any more. A third option--that Harry's cognitive development has always been significantly delayed and like that of a much younger person, no matter his age, is also a possibility.

The summer after Diana died, Harry went with family friends on a Greek holiday and that is supposedly the time that he was first introduced to alcohol and marijuana, if not other substances. The young people discoed through the night without adult supervision, apparently. If Haz started up all his bad habits when he was only 13, then they are going to be insidious and deeply-rooted. They say the maturational development of addicts stops at the point they became addicts, and for Harry that was right on the tails of his mother's death.

People say, "If Diana were still alive, none of this would have happened." I wonder if this is true. Diana would be likely married again, if not to Dodi, then some other foreign multimillionaire and living far away, maybe in a Muslim country. She would not be received at court or likely spending much if any time in London. Harry still would have been a vocational loose end and presumptive Army washout. Still partying. Diana's influence would not have been strong enough to overcome all of his negative traits, especially if she herself allowed many of them to fester. She may have encouraged Harry in a match with another girl before Markle came on the scene, but he would have remained a target for MM as long as he was unattached, and I doubt very much he would have heeded any advice that steered him away from something ultimately not in his best interest. Harry and Meg both are stubborn in that regard. Told 'no' or 'don't', they do not respond in cooperative ways.
Hikari said…
@KC

Chips vs. chops

I wish I'd been that clever . . ChIps was merely a typo on my phone. I meant chops but don't know how to fix it. Wish we could edit posts after submitting them rather than just delete the whole thing.
LavenderLady said…
@Fairy Crocodile,
It was satisfying to watch the duo open themselves to ridicule again.

Markle who supposedly holds an international relations degree and was seriously obsessed with UK and UK's royals not knowing about the Commonwealth? She lived in Canada and paid with money that had the Queen's face on it. She must be an imbecile not to know that Canada belongs to the Commonwealth.

Another pearl of wisdom was calling the Queen "grandmother" and claiming she was going to "continue her legacy". A briefcase girl who couldn't perform the simplest of royal duties will continue the Crown's legacy. Comedy gold.

I can't quite decide if she is mentally deficient or constantly high. Perhaps both.

***********
Yup she's all of the above. Just so full of shit...

Well said!
Dallas Alice said…
@Hikari-all good points, as usual :-) I cannot imagine having to endure that level of grief on such a public stage. Also, once his biggest advocate died (“King Harry”), he was back to being an ordinary spare. I’m not even going to pretend I have the slightest inkling what it was like to deal with the whole spectacle-marriage, affairs, salacious books, relentless newspaper articles, divorce, Diana’s death. But, as you said, William lost his Mom too but Harry seems to be waaaaaay more needy than William. My kid has ADHD, none of my nieces do, and the difference between them is like night and day. My kid needs almost constant supervision at his almost middle school age so he doesn’t accidentally burn the house down while my nieces happily sit and read books for hours.I’d imagine Harry has some organic issues to deal with on top of possibly self-medicating to blunt those issues.
Dallas Alice said…
And I sympathize with the plight of those who self-medicate. Been there, done that, have the liver damage.
"So, M&H saying they now approve of social media to the QCT today"

My hubs, "So, they stand for nothing."

about right...
Jdubya said…
Saw this post referred to on LSA and went and looked at it. Interesting comment on a DM article.

Canadian Monarchist, Toronto, Canada, 2 hours ago

Markle thought she could SoHo-ize the royal public relations team. You know, the way Markus would pull out her file when any visiting celebrity or bigwig came to town. "Whose available tonight for some company, Markus, my man?" "Here's who is in town right now, Mr Bigwig." And a half dozen or so files are laid on table. That's how Harry met her, that's the set up blind date. Markus is agent to who knows how many wannabe rich and famous actors and actresses. SoHo House in Toronto had Harry blow into town and arranged the company of his choice based on photos, some video, some written info. He and NoNo were not exactly matchmakers, more like marketers.

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