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But Really, Could they?

 Richard Eden has an interesting article in the DM which references an article in The Guardian about the necessity of the passport applications for the kids as including HRH and the last name of Sussex.

Why?  Well supposedly this is all because they want to allow the kids to decide for themselves to become a working royal or continue to stay in private life.

The main focus becomes how this bewilders the Palace considering how difficult the parents found it all and then left.  As well has his thoughts that this is about maintaining royal aura ("links" is his term) before ending with how a push for the daughter might be as the American Princess might be helpful to her mommy's business.


What I wonder about is: 

What or where did they get the idea that the kids would be welcomed into the fold and become working royal?

I am not convinced that was ever an option once they stepped back.

America doesn't do British history quite the same way or to the same detail.  Manners or rather etiquette is different.  And the clothing is not SoCal or Hollywood where a lot of skin shows.  

Sure some of that can be taught but it takes more than a couple of classes to incorporate the how to respond to a situation and not embarrass the Firm.  And yeah they can have dressers help pick appropriate clothing but the person has to be willing to wear it. 

It takes years before they let even the adults attend one of the big fancy dress dinners (and even then you start with being seated with "safe" people).  

This is assuming that the people in the UK want more than just the current royals available (meaning the Wales and the various cousins/so on).  Is there that level of drive to wanting those kids in that kind of positions from the country?

And what about the current King or Prince of Wales?  They are or will be running the Working Royal Team.  They have to be open to this because if not, then it stops right there even if the kid wants to do this.  Right now the BRF is making do and still showing up without Mommy or Daddy of said kids.  

So ... another question is: by that time (kid becomes an adult to become a working royal) will there be that level of need considering that by then the three Wales kids will be of age.  And they have grown up steeped in the history of the country, taught etiquette when they were little and have grown up seeing how it should be done by their parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles and so on.  Much less guidance to put them in the schedules.


So ... is it realistic to even think that someone can just step in and be polished, able to handle this kind of job with the finesse it requires or ... is that just another hopeful Hollywood script?


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Humor Me said…
My two cents - the DM has turned into a paywall for all thing H & *. The last i read on the Express was Charles Spencer had talked H out of changing his surname. * was getting an award, but that ceremony was cancelled due to the Riots. I honestly believe H does not know what he wants, and he is waiting on the King's health to decline before making one last desparate move to rejoin his Family - and I have no idea what that would involve from H.
I doubt if being an HRH is within H's gift - it reminds me of how Nicola Sturgeon `assured' the Scots that they'd still use the Pound Sterling when they became independent (even though the decision would be made by the Bank of England).
Maneki Neko said…
I wouldn't say it's up to Archie and Lili to decide if they want to be working royals. This only serves to show *'s arrogance and ignorance. You can't choose to be a royal when you want to, unless you marry into the BRF - and even then, * couldn't hack it.
Magatha Mistie said…

Quickie 🎤
Apologies: Mary’s Boy Child

HRH Puff n Ruff

Longtime ago in BedlamM
her PR team didn’t say
Megsies first embryo
was bought to save the day
Barks now from the twerking whinge
her prince will have no say
And we will know forever more
all was not au fait…


Magatha Mistie said…

Come on Nutties
old and new
Hikari please
we need you

Girl with a Hat said…
I think that if the children exist, then they shouln't be eligible for HRH, ever. Their parents have decided for them. No half in and half out.
abbyh said…
To be really honest, I thought actually it is just another reach out trying to get some sort of rise from the palace or the family.

I don't know. Maybe someone said something about if the family doesn't allow you back in, maybe they would the kids? to one of them. After all, there isn't a lot of public response (read as acknowledge/give attention) by the family about anything they have done for a long time.

Besides, it would allow the victimology to continue to the next generation.

OKay said…
I don't think that H and wife believe their children will ever be working Royals. As Eden suggests, this is all just a way of keeping their link to the RF alive in the mind of the public.
Girl with a Hat said…
I think Hairy is trying to make amends to improve his odds of getting a big inheritance when his father passes away. That's the extent of his emotions wrt his family.
If all the existing Royal families is the world would choose one truly competent person to educate their offspring to the role and sophistication needed for the representation of their Royal House and country I'm sure the unanimous vote would go to Meghan Markle, that classy lady.

And it is the baroness who is educating those children.

Because the sussexes have never shown anyone the true birth certificates of their children I can't see why the subjects of the British Royal Family have any necessity to consider the sussex babies as possible working members in any country where Charles III is the King.

@Magatha

Nice one!
Let's see... FitzAitch? Fitzfaintsandfunnyturns? FitzTwerk?
@Magatha =- my mind went off in the wrong direction, Should have said `Yes, Same name as Geo IV's mistress, Maria.
'
Maneki Neko said…
We've just watched Trooping the Colour and the flypast. We could see some of the aircraft from our house. Looking at the RF on the balcony, I reflected on what * & H were missing. They could have been on the line up with the King and his family but they blew it, due largely to *'s petulance and stupidity. She could have achieved much more and been famous, as opposed to infamous, had she played her cards right.

The DM has an article quoting Tina Brown (former editor in chief of Tatler, Vanity Fair, The New Yorker etc) 'In her book Palace Papers the royal expert wrote: 'So Meghan must have been thrilled with it all... right? No.

'She apparently hated every second of it. She found the itinerary of engagements "pointless", a former Palace employee told me.'

The staffer said Meghan didn't appear to grasp the 'representational role' of the British monarchy when they toured, adding she was more interested in 'causes she wanted to spotlight'.

Quite. The BRF wasn't there for her and her dubious causes, she was there for them. Didn't know, didn't understand and didn't want to.
One can be very sure that Harry was watching Trooping the Colour today. I do hope he was crying his heart out over everything he has lost.

There are many very stupid people in the world with a heart of gold and decency. Harry is definitely NOT one of them. He is just very stupid and rotten through and through so I hope he suffers as a result of what he has done.

Maneki Neko said…
@alianor

I don't know if wifey allowed/will allow H to watch Trooping the Colour. She wouldn't be able to stomach Harry watching William and Catherine and the children, she'd be consumed with jealousy. I don't think she wants Harry to be reminded of his former life, and she doesn't want to be reminded of her brief stint in the BRF. Harry could have been there had he not be bewitched by that trollop.
Maneki Neko said…
'Meghan Markle and Prince Harry have parted ways with six more members of their team as their PR machine undergoes another dramatic shake-up just weeks after enlisting the agency behind the Duchess's cringe-worthy twerking video.'
'just weeks after enlisting the agency'...?? So the video was recent?? Not done 4 years ago when * wanted to bring on labour? Quelle surprise ! I thought she was probably trolling us, if the info in the article is true, she certainly was. At any rate, she was lying.
Girl with a Hat said…
I'm losing track. Someone said that they had lost 4 this week, then the 6? How do they have 10 people working for them? or even 6?
Maneki Neko said…
@Girl with a Hat

'According to Deadline since stepping back from royal duties at least 22 people have left their team, with six in the last two months.'
It does seem excessive, doesn't it? 'European communications director, deputy press secretary, director of communications, a personal assistant, and Meghan's social media manager' - the list is not exhaustive. You wonder what they do all day.

'Meghan and Harry have hired some of the most incredible people at the top of their fields, yet somehow none of them ever work out.' Either there isn't enough work/the work is incredibly dull or else it's their employers.

The duo have 'hired Method Communications, a slick US-based PR firm, in an effort to revamp their public image'. They obviously have never heard of the saying 'putting lipstick on a pig'.
Rumours are flying about the new SP episode called `Respect Our Pregnancy' - even HGTudor's picked up on it. Haven't had time to search it out - she's even said to have buggered off to Dubai.
Good Hunting!
Wow! This is an hour old interview with People

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpgRBY4zKVE
Rumours are flying `South Park DRAGS Meghan Markle AGAIN in New Special — “Respect Our Pregnancy”
Controversy EXPLODES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kZpNM2zDZs

Thres also news 1 hr old that she's been talking to people about her marriage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwssJ_yOTIc
Another take on it.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Board

I watched the second video you mentioned. South Park say their skit gives her relevance. I don't think it does. Fame, or rather infamy, yes, relevance, no. She is not, and never has been, relevant. She might have been on the margins of relevance when first married but that didn't last long.
@abbyh
Yesa, that bump is moving like a bum bag worn in one's front.
There is a story in the internet about Harry arriving to the British Soap Awards without an invitation expecting to lord about as a prince and receiving standing ovations and he was thrown out of the venue with boos. He does not get, does he?

He is nobody's golden boy anymore, it would be better that he got used to it because it would spare him some humiliating blushes.

Maneki Neko said…
Speaking to someone in her Aspire podcast, * said: 'You have to be authentic. Did you see my "Baby Momma" dance? That was four years ago.' * authentic? Like her twerking? As for ' four years ago', this is just as inauthentic. It's all lies.
Magatha Mistie said…

Mammon

Defending her slut drop
not very wise
Accusing the media of
spreading lies
Latest interview with
Emma Grede
Re-inforced our opinion
she’s Real needy
Her Authentic sly eyes
Didn’t hide madams guise
Determined to quash truths
she’s not sleazy
Just desperate, deranged
immensely Grede…

The baroness wishes that people would tell the truth about her. Well, yes here we go: she is a despicable and unforgivable distortion of a human being. Talentless sickly copycat, destroyer of innocent people, a mother who has not a slightest idea what motherhood is. A middle aged nonentity who has lost her looks but plays a ridiculous role of a eighteen year old sex kitten. A loser on her way to nothingness.

You asked it mrs sussex so there it is.

Maneki Neko said…
[talking to Emma Grede] * 'today revealed Archie and Lilibet sell produce from their Montecito mansion's garden at a local farmers' market so they understand the 'value of things'.'
. . . 'The Duchess of Sussex said she tries to keep her children grounded by getting them to do gardening, admitting they are 'very lucky' to live in a 'privileged' home.'
. . . * 'said: 'We grow a lot of veggies. We sometimes do a little farmers' market stand.''

I suppose this is * being 'authentic'. She won't show the children's faces but let's them sells at a local farmers' market. This is totally believable (sarc). I don't know why she keeps mentioning the children all the time. Anything to be in the news, I suppose.
I came across a copy of Dale Carnegie's best known work, `How to Win Friends and Influence people', in an Oxfam shop in sweltering Cambridge today and glanced at the chapter headings. The very first one was, `"If you want to gather honey, don't kick over the beehive".
My thoughts must have been primed by Mr Wildboar's looking for a thin short-sleeved shirt (we'd misjudged the weather and had come with no tropical kit ) and wondering if he could get away without ironing it. The image instantly conjured up was of ILBW kicking over the `hive' of BP .
I doubt if ILBW ever read `Htwfaip', still less mark, learn and inwardly digest its contents.
It's enough to make a cat laugh.

Here's a deeper reflection on the principle:
https://www.socratic-method.com/quote-meanings/dale-carnegie-if-you-want-to-gather-honey-dont-kick-over-the-beehive


Girl with a Hat said…
In the father's day montage of photos they released, we see a pic of Hairy with Archie when Archie is about 6-8 months old. But the baby we see has dark hair, unlike the Archie of the same age that was presented to Archbishop Tutu. Did anyone notice this?
Also, there's a picture of Hairy kissing a newborn "Archie" but the photo is so obviously a doll. The fingers look so plastic and fake, and the face is also too smooth for it to be a real baby. Even newborns have small skin imperfections from the trauma of child birth.
Yet, I haven't seen a single comment about these two issues anywhere. Not at the DM when the photos appeared, and not on twitter.
There's so much to keep track of in their constantly changing stories that people are forgetting the details that could reveal their lying.
I can't understand why the baroness needs all those NDAs? She is, according to herself the best of women with her employees who all adore and wordship her. Why not let the whole world hear what her underlings have to say about her. They can't have anything but the most heartwarming things to tell.

After all she is the goddess of Montecito.

The baroness on this Emma Grede podcast has a different face and it is not just her dark make up. It is clear that while she is rapidly ageing she is losing all Markle features and her Ragland side of family shows more and more. The make up just highlights it. But that's not bad for ever since she married Harry she has wanted to be more and more African. Mother Nature takes care of it for her so all is fine.

Girl with a Hat said…
@MeghansTowel
NO DNA NO TITLES —-
could it be true, has the Palace finally decided to end the deception? If so could it reveal the truth about Harry? We shall see!
https://x.com/MeghansTowel/status/1935261995541876771
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1lelhn0/i_love_learning_something_new_all_the_timeexcept/

To me, the most notable statement is that she claims never to suffer from Impostor Syndrome 'cos (and I paraphrase) she's 100% authentic/ genuine/ and never for one moment doubts that she is fully qualified to do all she does...
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

* and Impostor Syndrome can't be used in the same sentence. She fancies herself too much for that. People experiencing Impostor Syndrome often have low self esteem. This is not *'s case, as far as I know. She might feel somewhat insecure under the self-assured facade but I doubt it. 'Grandiose narcissism, characterized by a sense of superiority and entitlement, can be a defense mechanism against underlying feelings of inadequacy, potentially leading to imposter syndrome.' That, or else it's the Dunning–Kruger effect. 'The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities.' This certainly sounds like *.
Girl with a Hat said…
this is the pic I was referring to

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/06/18/20/99506903-0-image-a-77_1750275484398.jpg
Girl with a Hat said…
new nickname I saw for * = Twerkerella
Girl with a Hat said…
If anything, she thinks she knows better than the experts in any given field.
Yes, Maneki, she is not short of self-esteem - her levels are through the roof- so she never has a moment of self-doubt. Does that mean she is a deluded but unwitting impostor ?
It's one of those tricky questions like if `If a liar tells you she's lying, is she telling the truth? ' Likewise `I'm such a fraud!'
These news. Harry is showing pictures of his children on his wife's Instagram feed to get his father to give him everything His Chinless Wonder wants?

So he thinks that his father His Majesty The King is going to do ALL he can to try and create a world where Harry's children are 1) legitimate 2) Harry's biological children 3) His baroness' (that wife of his) biological children 4) and where they have been born through the birth canal of the said baroness (wife).

And that His Majesty is ready to destroy the whole House of Windsor and the British Monarchy to prove all these things for Harry and his wife.

Well that is interesting.

I have no dog in this fight, I am a foreigner, but I am as curious as hell how this ends.

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