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But Really, Could they?

 Richard Eden has an interesting article in the DM which references an article in The Guardian about the necessity of the passport applications for the kids as including HRH and the last name of Sussex.

Why?  Well supposedly this is all because they want to allow the kids to decide for themselves to become a working royal or continue to stay in private life.

The main focus becomes how this bewilders the Palace considering how difficult the parents found it all and then left.  As well has his thoughts that this is about maintaining royal aura ("links" is his term) before ending with how a push for the daughter might be as the American Princess might be helpful to her mommy's business.


What I wonder about is: 

What or where did they get the idea that the kids would be welcomed into the fold and become working royal?

I am not convinced that was ever an option once they stepped back.

America doesn't do British history quite the same way or to the same detail.  Manners or rather etiquette is different.  And the clothing is not SoCal or Hollywood where a lot of skin shows.  

Sure some of that can be taught but it takes more than a couple of classes to incorporate the how to respond to a situation and not embarrass the Firm.  And yeah they can have dressers help pick appropriate clothing but the person has to be willing to wear it. 

It takes years before they let even the adults attend one of the big fancy dress dinners (and even then you start with being seated with "safe" people).  

This is assuming that the people in the UK want more than just the current royals available (meaning the Wales and the various cousins/so on).  Is there that level of drive to wanting those kids in that kind of positions from the country?

And what about the current King or Prince of Wales?  They are or will be running the Working Royal Team.  They have to be open to this because if not, then it stops right there even if the kid wants to do this.  Right now the BRF is making do and still showing up without Mommy or Daddy of said kids.  

So ... another question is: by that time (kid becomes an adult to become a working royal) will there be that level of need considering that by then the three Wales kids will be of age.  And they have grown up steeped in the history of the country, taught etiquette when they were little and have grown up seeing how it should be done by their parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles and so on.  Much less guidance to put them in the schedules.


So ... is it realistic to even think that someone can just step in and be polished, able to handle this kind of job with the finesse it requires or ... is that just another hopeful Hollywood script?


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Humor Me said…
My two cents - the DM has turned into a paywall for all thing H & *. The last i read on the Express was Charles Spencer had talked H out of changing his surname. * was getting an award, but that ceremony was cancelled due to the Riots. I honestly believe H does not know what he wants, and he is waiting on the King's health to decline before making one last desparate move to rejoin his Family - and I have no idea what that would involve from H.
I doubt if being an HRH is within H's gift - it reminds me of how Nicola Sturgeon `assured' the Scots that they'd still use the Pound Sterling when they became independent (even though the decision would be made by the Bank of England).
Maneki Neko said…
I wouldn't say it's up to Archie and Lili to decide if they want to be working royals. This only serves to show *'s arrogance and ignorance. You can't choose to be a royal when you want to, unless you marry into the BRF - and even then, * couldn't hack it.
Magatha Mistie said…

Quickie 🎤
Apologies: Mary’s Boy Child

HRH Puff n Ruff

Longtime ago in BedlamM
her PR team didn’t say
Megsies first embryo
was bought to save the day
Barks now from the twerking whinge
her prince will have no say
And we will know forever more
all was not au fait…


Magatha Mistie said…

Come on Nutties
old and new
Hikari please
we need you

Girl with a Hat said…
I think that if the children exist, then they shouln't be eligible for HRH, ever. Their parents have decided for them. No half in and half out.
abbyh said…
To be really honest, I thought actually it is just another reach out trying to get some sort of rise from the palace or the family.

I don't know. Maybe someone said something about if the family doesn't allow you back in, maybe they would the kids? to one of them. After all, there isn't a lot of public response (read as acknowledge/give attention) by the family about anything they have done for a long time.

Besides, it would allow the victimology to continue to the next generation.

OKay said…
I don't think that H and wife believe their children will ever be working Royals. As Eden suggests, this is all just a way of keeping their link to the RF alive in the mind of the public.
Girl with a Hat said…
I think Hairy is trying to make amends to improve his odds of getting a big inheritance when his father passes away. That's the extent of his emotions wrt his family.
If all the existing Royal families is the world would choose one truly competent person to educate their offspring to the role and sophistication needed for the representation of their Royal House and country I'm sure the unanimous vote would go to Meghan Markle, that classy lady.

And it is the baroness who is educating those children.

Because the sussexes have never shown anyone the true birth certificates of their children I can't see why the subjects of the British Royal Family have any necessity to consider the sussex babies as possible working members in any country where Charles III is the King.

@Magatha

Nice one!
Let's see... FitzAitch? Fitzfaintsandfunnyturns? FitzTwerk?
@Magatha =- my mind went off in the wrong direction, Should have said `Yes, Same name as Geo IV's mistress, Maria.
'
Maneki Neko said…
We've just watched Trooping the Colour and the flypast. We could see some of the aircraft from our house. Looking at the RF on the balcony, I reflected on what * & H were missing. They could have been on the line up with the King and his family but they blew it, due largely to *'s petulance and stupidity. She could have achieved much more and been famous, as opposed to infamous, had she played her cards right.

The DM has an article quoting Tina Brown (former editor in chief of Tatler, Vanity Fair, The New Yorker etc) 'In her book Palace Papers the royal expert wrote: 'So Meghan must have been thrilled with it all... right? No.

'She apparently hated every second of it. She found the itinerary of engagements "pointless", a former Palace employee told me.'

The staffer said Meghan didn't appear to grasp the 'representational role' of the British monarchy when they toured, adding she was more interested in 'causes she wanted to spotlight'.

Quite. The BRF wasn't there for her and her dubious causes, she was there for them. Didn't know, didn't understand and didn't want to.
One can be very sure that Harry was watching Trooping the Colour today. I do hope he was crying his heart out over everything he has lost.

There are many very stupid people in the world with a heart of gold and decency. Harry is definitely NOT one of them. He is just very stupid and rotten through and through so I hope he suffers as a result of what he has done.

Maneki Neko said…
@alianor

I don't know if wifey allowed/will allow H to watch Trooping the Colour. She wouldn't be able to stomach Harry watching William and Catherine and the children, she'd be consumed with jealousy. I don't think she wants Harry to be reminded of his former life, and she doesn't want to be reminded of her brief stint in the BRF. Harry could have been there had he not be bewitched by that trollop.
Maneki Neko said…
'Meghan Markle and Prince Harry have parted ways with six more members of their team as their PR machine undergoes another dramatic shake-up just weeks after enlisting the agency behind the Duchess's cringe-worthy twerking video.'
'just weeks after enlisting the agency'...?? So the video was recent?? Not done 4 years ago when * wanted to bring on labour? Quelle surprise ! I thought she was probably trolling us, if the info in the article is true, she certainly was. At any rate, she was lying.
Girl with a Hat said…
I'm losing track. Someone said that they had lost 4 this week, then the 6? How do they have 10 people working for them? or even 6?
Maneki Neko said…
@Girl with a Hat

'According to Deadline since stepping back from royal duties at least 22 people have left their team, with six in the last two months.'
It does seem excessive, doesn't it? 'European communications director, deputy press secretary, director of communications, a personal assistant, and Meghan's social media manager' - the list is not exhaustive. You wonder what they do all day.

'Meghan and Harry have hired some of the most incredible people at the top of their fields, yet somehow none of them ever work out.' Either there isn't enough work/the work is incredibly dull or else it's their employers.

The duo have 'hired Method Communications, a slick US-based PR firm, in an effort to revamp their public image'. They obviously have never heard of the saying 'putting lipstick on a pig'.
Rumours are flying about the new SP episode called `Respect Our Pregnancy' - even HGTudor's picked up on it. Haven't had time to search it out - she's even said to have buggered off to Dubai.
Good Hunting!
Wow! This is an hour old interview with People

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpgRBY4zKVE
Rumours are flying `South Park DRAGS Meghan Markle AGAIN in New Special — “Respect Our Pregnancy”
Controversy EXPLODES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kZpNM2zDZs

Thres also news 1 hr old that she's been talking to people about her marriage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwssJ_yOTIc
Another take on it.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Board

I watched the second video you mentioned. South Park say their skit gives her relevance. I don't think it does. Fame, or rather infamy, yes, relevance, no. She is not, and never has been, relevant. She might have been on the margins of relevance when first married but that didn't last long.
@abbyh
Yesa, that bump is moving like a bum bag worn in one's front.
There is a story in the internet about Harry arriving to the British Soap Awards without an invitation expecting to lord about as a prince and receiving standing ovations and he was thrown out of the venue with boos. He does not get, does he?

He is nobody's golden boy anymore, it would be better that he got used to it because it would spare him some humiliating blushes.

Maneki Neko said…
Speaking to someone in her Aspire podcast, * said: 'You have to be authentic. Did you see my "Baby Momma" dance? That was four years ago.' * authentic? Like her twerking? As for ' four years ago', this is just as inauthentic. It's all lies.
Magatha Mistie said…

Mammon

Defending her slut drop
not very wise
Accusing the media of
spreading lies
Latest interview with
Emma Grede
Re-inforced our opinion
she’s Real needy
Her Authentic sly eyes
Didn’t hide madams guise
Determined to quash truths
she’s not sleazy
Just desperate, deranged
immensely Grede…

The baroness wishes that people would tell the truth about her. Well, yes here we go: she is a despicable and unforgivable distortion of a human being. Talentless sickly copycat, destroyer of innocent people, a mother who has not a slightest idea what motherhood is. A middle aged nonentity who has lost her looks but plays a ridiculous role of a eighteen year old sex kitten. A loser on her way to nothingness.

You asked it mrs sussex so there it is.

Maneki Neko said…
[talking to Emma Grede] * 'today revealed Archie and Lilibet sell produce from their Montecito mansion's garden at a local farmers' market so they understand the 'value of things'.'
. . . 'The Duchess of Sussex said she tries to keep her children grounded by getting them to do gardening, admitting they are 'very lucky' to live in a 'privileged' home.'
. . . * 'said: 'We grow a lot of veggies. We sometimes do a little farmers' market stand.''

I suppose this is * being 'authentic'. She won't show the children's faces but let's them sells at a local farmers' market. This is totally believable (sarc). I don't know why she keeps mentioning the children all the time. Anything to be in the news, I suppose.
I came across a copy of Dale Carnegie's best known work, `How to Win Friends and Influence people', in an Oxfam shop in sweltering Cambridge today and glanced at the chapter headings. The very first one was, `"If you want to gather honey, don't kick over the beehive".
My thoughts must have been primed by Mr Wildboar's looking for a thin short-sleeved shirt (we'd misjudged the weather and had come with no tropical kit ) and wondering if he could get away without ironing it. The image instantly conjured up was of ILBW kicking over the `hive' of BP .
I doubt if ILBW ever read `Htwfaip', still less mark, learn and inwardly digest its contents.
It's enough to make a cat laugh.

Here's a deeper reflection on the principle:
https://www.socratic-method.com/quote-meanings/dale-carnegie-if-you-want-to-gather-honey-dont-kick-over-the-beehive


Girl with a Hat said…
In the father's day montage of photos they released, we see a pic of Hairy with Archie when Archie is about 6-8 months old. But the baby we see has dark hair, unlike the Archie of the same age that was presented to Archbishop Tutu. Did anyone notice this?
Also, there's a picture of Hairy kissing a newborn "Archie" but the photo is so obviously a doll. The fingers look so plastic and fake, and the face is also too smooth for it to be a real baby. Even newborns have small skin imperfections from the trauma of child birth.
Yet, I haven't seen a single comment about these two issues anywhere. Not at the DM when the photos appeared, and not on twitter.
There's so much to keep track of in their constantly changing stories that people are forgetting the details that could reveal their lying.
I can't understand why the baroness needs all those NDAs? She is, according to herself the best of women with her employees who all adore and wordship her. Why not let the whole world hear what her underlings have to say about her. They can't have anything but the most heartwarming things to tell.

After all she is the goddess of Montecito.

The baroness on this Emma Grede podcast has a different face and it is not just her dark make up. It is clear that while she is rapidly ageing she is losing all Markle features and her Ragland side of family shows more and more. The make up just highlights it. But that's not bad for ever since she married Harry she has wanted to be more and more African. Mother Nature takes care of it for her so all is fine.

Girl with a Hat said…
@MeghansTowel
NO DNA NO TITLES —-
could it be true, has the Palace finally decided to end the deception? If so could it reveal the truth about Harry? We shall see!
https://x.com/MeghansTowel/status/1935261995541876771
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1lelhn0/i_love_learning_something_new_all_the_timeexcept/

To me, the most notable statement is that she claims never to suffer from Impostor Syndrome 'cos (and I paraphrase) she's 100% authentic/ genuine/ and never for one moment doubts that she is fully qualified to do all she does...
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

* and Impostor Syndrome can't be used in the same sentence. She fancies herself too much for that. People experiencing Impostor Syndrome often have low self esteem. This is not *'s case, as far as I know. She might feel somewhat insecure under the self-assured facade but I doubt it. 'Grandiose narcissism, characterized by a sense of superiority and entitlement, can be a defense mechanism against underlying feelings of inadequacy, potentially leading to imposter syndrome.' That, or else it's the Dunning–Kruger effect. 'The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities.' This certainly sounds like *.
Girl with a Hat said…
this is the pic I was referring to

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/06/18/20/99506903-0-image-a-77_1750275484398.jpg
Girl with a Hat said…
new nickname I saw for * = Twerkerella
Girl with a Hat said…
If anything, she thinks she knows better than the experts in any given field.
Yes, Maneki, she is not short of self-esteem - her levels are through the roof- so she never has a moment of self-doubt. Does that mean she is a deluded but unwitting impostor ?
It's one of those tricky questions like if `If a liar tells you she's lying, is she telling the truth? ' Likewise `I'm such a fraud!'
These news. Harry is showing pictures of his children on his wife's Instagram feed to get his father to give him everything His Chinless Wonder wants?

So he thinks that his father His Majesty The King is going to do ALL he can to try and create a world where Harry's children are 1) legitimate 2) Harry's biological children 3) His baroness' (that wife of his) biological children 4) and where they have been born through the birth canal of the said baroness (wife).

And that His Majesty is ready to destroy the whole House of Windsor and the British Monarchy to prove all these things for Harry and his wife.

Well that is interesting.

I have no dog in this fight, I am a foreigner, but I am as curious as hell how this ends.

Maneki Neko said…
There is no end to her talents!
'* revealed a trio of new products under her lifestyle brand As Ever today as she launched a Napa Valley rosé wine, an apricot spread and a new honey.' Well, that's a way for us peasants to 'elevate' our dreary existence, I suppose. I don't suppose anyone will be interested but she'll announce that everything sold out within minutes.
Maneki Neko said…
Great comment in the DM from LilibetDianna, Liars ville, United States

Is it made from sour grapes?
---------------------
If so, she'll have gallons and gallons of the stuff







Magatha Mistie said…

Fakesfear

To quote the Bard
“Though I am not naturally honest
I am sometimes by chance”
Along with a mammoth ego
and ultra confidence
Deep seated insecurities
caused mammons low-down twerk
Madam doth project too much
Her Truth is plain
Berserk…

Surely Barreness rather than Baroness? (I couldn't have children, so I imagine I can say that.)
So Harry, overdose? (Youtuber PDina)

The truth about As Ever products. They are not products of the baroness, but we knew that didn't we? She steals (borrows?) everything.

Youtuber Think Beautiful: "As ever supplier revealed!!"

Magatha Mistie said…

Whine and Poses

When is a rosé not a rosé
when it’s been trampled
by her feet
Her minimised teef
puffed sleeves, good grief
Swinging like Tweety
yellow-bellied parakeet
Her rosé described as
harsh smotes of stoned jute
General immorality
lasting tarnish, old boot
Sour grapes, musty fust
her bespoke bend
Mean-spirited dregs
Nasti Spewmante bin-end…

Maneki Neko said…
Yes, we knew - the whole word knew - that As Ever products are not made by *. 'Evidence points to Republic of Teas being As Ever’s tea supplier'. Delicious tea!!! And I love the irony of a would-be royal using a company called Republic of Teas. She probably did it deliberately.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1liz9k7/evidence_points_to_republic_of_teas_being_as/
Magatha Mistie said…

Apologies: See-saw Marjorie Daw

Harry Haw-Haw

He saw meggie l’hore
Then she became Harry’s master
Harry shall pay
to the end of his day
Because the fool won’t outlast her…

Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Whine and Poses, love it! 'Nasti Spewmante bin-end…', your plays on words are so clever!
Girl with a Hat said…
yes, I concur. I laughed so hard at Nasti Spewmante!
Brilliant, Magatha!

The best I can do is:
`He shall have but a penny a day
because he can't twerk any faster.'
Girl with a Hat said…
https://pixhost.icu/avaxhome/1e/1e18/1e18bcdc72624d7389d927c84baca0f2-2617062016858015996.webp

The lead story for this British magazine, is "Did she fake it" about *'s pregnancy, I would assume, since they have a pic of her in the twerking video looking very much like she has a square pillow instead of a baby bump.
Maneki Neko said…
What magazine was this? I can't open the link. I'll have a look in the newsagents tomorrow.
It's `Woman', a very long established mag, in the past it was rather staid. My mother read it from the 1940s on and most of my jumpers were knitted from `Woman' patterns. As little girl, I loved my one featuring Wuff, Tuff and Snuff
the 3 little puppies.
https://thedustybox.com/2016/01/24/william-timym-wuff-snuff-tuff/

`Edith Home' , the agony aunt, was latter revealed to be written by a chap. Ah, such innocent days
Girl with a Hat said…
In the other photo of her on the cover, she looks like a clown with the exaggerated lips.
Girl with a Hat said…
It works for me. Sorry. Try this link instead https://www.pressreader.com/magazines/m/woman-uk/20250623
Video worth watching, from Shauna at the Vintage Read Show :

CAUTION ⚠️ The PALACE Ain’t Playing! Meghan Markle & Prince Harry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAuEe4x8otM
Has anyone found real evidence of Sir David A slapping down * ? There's a lot of hearsay but 'd like to see the actual clip or report from a reliable source.
Girl with a Hat said…
Sir David Attenborough?
Maneki Neko said…
I had a look at that Woman magazine in my supermarket, it doesn't really reveal anything. I just looked briefly at article, it shows support for the duo and shows a very flattering photo of Mrs Sussex with her hair done in a bun. Naturally, the duo were disturbed by the latest etc and why would they fake the pregnancies? Well, I think we can think of a few reasons why.

Lady C says the duo are worried about the children being taken out of the LoS. Apparently, there are all sorts of moves behind the scenes. She says if they haven't convinced anyone, certainly not with the twerking video, and they can always do it properly and legally. She sees not reasons * shouldn't be bound by the same constraints - re royal births - as other royal ladies. She reckons they're not going to het away with it. Bring it on, I say.
@ Girl with a hat

Apologies - yes, I was in a hurry.
@Maneki Neko
`She says if they haven't convinced anyone... they can always do it properly and legally.'
Yer wot?
I can't imagine a way they could do that , except in their own minds.

Ah, I note Lady C says,
` They can easily show they operated within the constraints that all other Royal woman have adhered to.'

True, if in fact they did adhere to them but I hae ma doots.
`
The baroness wants us all believe that she gave birth to two pure blood royal children who have their proper legal place in the British line of succession?

All she and her husband (you know the guy who stands behind her in all her photos, I can't remember his name) have to do is publish their babies original birth certificates with the doctors' and nurses' signatures. Problem solved.

I she (they) can't do that there must be some reason?

Or?

@Alianor
On the face of it. yes.
Or perhaps not. The medical staff would have to be known to be trustworthy, likewise any `documentation' they produced. After all, * is a known liar.

My opinion on the Birth Certificate they claimed was `Archie's' is well known here!
Maneki Neko said…
@alianor

Good question. I've looked it up and a site mentioned it was 'for privacy reasons for the baby' (Archie). The DT said at the time of Archie's birth:
'The certificate, which will have to list the place of birth for Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor, will be submitted as usual with a local registrar but not made available by the palace.
...The Sussexes, on the other hand, will seek to mask the details of where Archie was born for as long as possible, declining to confirm the medical team responsible.

Notably, a declaration of Archie’s birth on an easel on the forecourt of Buckingham Palace on Monday was signed personally by the Queen instead of doctors. ' [I didn't know the Queen had signed it]

No one wants any medical details or the size of the baby etc. Privacy for a baby? How pretentious and ridiculous. Either * enjoys the mystery and teasing us or else she has some other very valid reason that we have discussed...

Someone on Quora posted the birth certs reference numbers, Archie BBU 479581 and Lili 000443035 in Santa Barbara County.
Magatha Mistie said…

Breached Birth*

Mendacious mongrel meg
is barking mad
Littering the media
tails of whelping lass and lad
Hellhounding confounding
Janus-faced
Her basal instinct
Anus-based…

*Bitch Hitch



Magatha Mistie said…

Maneki & GWAH
Scraping the bottom of the *farrow here!
*aka non pregnant cow 🙃
First I’ve heard our late Queen
signed the easel declaration?


Magatha Mistie said…

Apologies: Loewe and Lerner
My Fair Lady

Her reign it’s plain was mainly
golden rain

In Hartlepool Hull and Halifax
Harlot heartily heldforth
But a trip to the North West
Saw her divest
Bump slipped south
should’ve stayed north…








Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Yes, me too, first I've heard about the Queen signing the declaration of Archie's on an easel. That was in the Telegraph which is normally trustworthy. The article (11 May 2019) is now under a pay wall, which it wasn't when I read it...
Video up yesterday - apparently someone, a shopkeeper, claims to have sold the moon bumps to Meg and discusses how the questions are now being asked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViJrhKXjRMM
Video deals well with the emotional aspects of this very well but
seems to miss the political point that they didn't just `challenge tradition', they've attacked the British Constitution. I wonder if they know that `interfering with the Succession' is treason?
The birth announcement - very odd.
According to https://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/meghan-and-harry-wont-release-archies-birth-certificate/news-story/8ee0b6c7d06cc8d07a3c9bd3cebe9b87
"A declaration of Archie’s birth on an easel on the forecourt of Buckingham Palace on Monday was signed personally by the Queen instead of doctors", yet there's no sign of a signature in the accompanying photo.

Did they mean the Queen `signed off' the notice, that is, gave it her express approval, rather than literally signed it? I can't imagine anyone would post such a sensitive document without her having sight of it first.

I suppose Nicholas Witchell may have faltered and given up trying to deliver his commentary from outside the Palace gates because he realised what the lack of doctors' signatures meant - `No signatures? No verified princely birth!'
- but he couldn't say that.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/royal-baby-correspondent-meghan-markle-birth-nicholas-witchell-video-a8902271.html





`
If this woman DL is truly the mother of the sussex children is one thing. What I find extremely believable in this story is that the baroness didn't give a sh+t about the birth mother after the baby girl's birth because that is exactly how that idiot functions every day in every situation. She doesn't give a damn.

DL says SHE suffered postpartum pre-eclampsia and that she is prepared to prove all this with a DNA test and documentation.

Interesting.

Information Youtuber Amber Exposé
Girl with a Hat said…
I thought she would just have ordered them online.
Maneki Neko said…
There's an article on * in the MoS but it's behind a pay wall so I just read the comments. This one is interesting.

'I was once only around 2m from the Harkles. In London, at the funeral of her late majesty. The overriding impressions were that he was unkempt, she was much smaller than she had led me (at least) to believe, and that they (or someone very close by) smelled of cigarettes and alcohol. A strong and quite unpleasant odour in this day and age. Finally she was pretty mean to those trying to help her, which Harry was doing his best not to notice (but had).
And I came home wondering at how huge was the disconnect between the irrational love her few, but highly motivated, supporters have for her, and the small, seemingly malodorous, rather mean person I’d just seen.
Life is odd.'

Magatha Mistie said…

Bejezus

Missed out on a boat trip
our merchant of menace
Given a wide berth
to the nuptials in Venice
La mare de terre
posing on a beach
Rigoletto Puttanesca
disperate
for bleach…


Magatha Mistie said…

Hahahaha!

Spindle legged sporks
Took a walk on her storks
To show the world she don’t care
She cares very much
She’s not in touch
with those like the Billionaire…

Girl with a Hat said…
merchant of menace. LOL
Maneki neko
Harry told in some late night tv show that his favorite scent was that of his wife. So maybe old booze and cigarettes charms him. There has been information in the wonderful world of internet that the baroness stinks occasionally very bad and definitely of old alcohol. The way they look sometimes gives vibes of dirty clothes and unwashed bodies. Their little daughter does not see a hairbrush or comb while she has nannies, so make it make sense.

Harry did not get words properly out of his mouth in the Nexus summit. He was not in good shape and should have stayed at home. The problem was his usual: nothing relevant to say or tell but the much bigger problem was that he spoke like he was either drunk or recovering from a stroke. Not a good appearance for his future speaking gigs.

Girl with a Hat said…
I keep trying to get more info on that woman, DL, who claims to have been their surrogate, but I don't see anything from her, just about her, on youtube.
A google search brings up hundreds of results about the rumours of them using a surrogate, but nothing about DL herself.
I watched the video referenced above, but again, nothing about her despite the fact that the video claims that DL has gone public about her identity.
Speculation about the changes in the birth certificates and other oddities with a hypothesis about what * may have been upto, from UTuber Hot Gossip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx1fZ0hApSo

Strikes me as good an explanation as any other.
Ian's Girl said…
Magatha, you are simply brilliant! 😂
Ian's Girl said…
Forgive me if this has been posted before; I am so seldom able to come to the site anymore, but I have a respite care giver in for a few days and am catching up. The daughter of a cousin to Her Late Majesty, says Hazmat blee up his relationship with his grandmother over the wedding. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/prince-harry-blew-up-relationship-with-late-queen-over-his-wedding-plans/ar-AA1HHYkO?ocid=emmx-mmx-feeds&cvid=8879af81e80c41c2aeedb374f94695a4&PC=EMMX01
I remember taking with friends, shortly before `Archie's' birth, about what the child might look like. I recall saying that I thought the skin colour could be anywhere between dark and light and the only thing I was really sure about was that he or she would have curly hair.
Well, I was wrong. neither has the degree of curl I was expecting. I find this remarkable, although admittedly H did have straight hair as a youngster.
Maneki Neko said…
This was in the DM two days ago. The Queen's first cousin, Lady Elizabeth Anson - and the rest of the BRF, I'd imagine, had serious doubts about *.

'The Queen's first cousin, who arranged the Queen's 80th birthday party, allegedly said just days before Meghan and Harry's wedding: 'We hope but don’t quite think she is in love. We think she engineered it all.' '

I hope your health gets better and that Magatha's brilliant writing cheers you up.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14859895/Harry-Meghan-Queen-upset-royal-wedding-rows.html
abbyh said…
I see the fruit spread is said to have sold out within the hour of opening for sale.

I was going to write about how many times one can play the FOMA dangling the limited quantity available before most people won't even try to buy it.

Now I'm thinking about how it is an exercise in psychology of how true believers continue to believe in spite of all the signs that they ought to walk away but they don't. They don't want to walk back on the time, effort, their thinking, their beliefs, the bonding with others who also believed and their all that this was not what they thought. This is especially true if the friends they made still completely believe (hello traitor) and if they were ridiculed by others for believing.

Girl with a Hat said…
Yikes! I made the mistake of going to celebitchy to read an article about how the Clooneys were colonized by the Windsors! As you may know, Kaiser, the woman who runs celebitchy is one of the world's biggest sugars.
Anyway, it seems that King Charles has been courting the Clooneys, so that he can flex that he is better friends with them than * is. They appeared at the King's Trust event that was held recently and were photographed there.
Remember that * invited them to her wedding without even having met them.
It seems that the Clooneys need to be courted by the King of England, not the other way around in this maniac's mind.
It is quite clear now that the baroness is not selling anything. What she wants and needs is her face in the papers and she is going to continue as long as she gets this. "Jams" are only the means to reach this not any products.

Maneki Neko said…
How the mighty have fallen! From living as a royal in London or Windsor to being reduced to peddling second rate spread - not even jam.
Girl with a Hat said…
Princess Catherine really didn't look well at her appearance today. I hope she is getting better.
This is hilarious! It seems that the baroness's famous university studies are just more lies nothing else.

Was there ever ONE thing she did not lie about?

(youtube Paula M channel)

The only accomplishments RoyalUk accepts to the baroness are Suits and the tig. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxN2jTdfY0w

South Park episode banned .
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tv/article-14868767/south-park-merger-season-27-delays.html
Or not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrN84vE10bY
`Hospital Shocks Everyone Saying Meghan Markle NEVER Gave Birth To Baby Archie'

Another video from Amber Expose.
Without naming the hospital, this loses much of its punch - but I suppose that were the name given, the hospital could be in trouble for the denial (breaking medical confidentiality.) Of course, we all know which hospital she alleged it was. it might just be a repeat of the nurses' gossip we knew already.
May she meet her Waterloo very soon...
Girl with a Hat said…
Does * get any money for the use of her image on these magazine covers? If she does, they aren't going to be destitute any time soon.
Lady Colin Campbell has an interesting idea today (Sunday 05.07) that the sussex children at best may end up as plain Lord Dumbarton and Lady Lily Windsor.

I do wonder if the point she is making is that they may end up as lord Archie Mountbatten-Windsor and lady Lily Mountbatten-Windsor in the same way that the Ladies Maria and Naomi Gordon-Lennox the daughters of the 10th Duke of Richmond are Ladies as the children of a duke?

Sometimes one marvels at the existence of that lady called Karma, one truly does.

Humor Me said…
Well, oops, a day behind....Happy 4th of July from a Descendant of the Rebellion from Across the Pond. Yes, it was a lovely day. Carry on.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a7a9b88463ed0aaa206fa10087783690881cd5585a95c92a1cdd9d5a0a02d7b7.jpg

LOL. Her real skin colour and her fake one, in one photo, on the same limb!
abbyh said…
I don't know that I buy that photo as real. Do we have any sort of link to the original Neal post?

I don't think that's how spray tan works - not do the hands?

Now, while working in the garden, I often look at my protected by gloves hands and think about tan lines. But then I remember I'm lowering my chances of skin cancer and maybe ought to put on a long sleeved shirt.
OKay said…
I assume she pays to be featured, in which case they're hemorrhaging money.
Girl with a Hat said…
I was baffled as well.
I don't think Charles has right to dictate how William must organize his funeral familywise. If he wants Harry and his family to be a part of the Royal Family it his business to see to it not leave commands to William how HE must repair the rift in the family after his death. And I don't think it is right to give this information to the public (the article in the Telegraph) so William has no say in it. Just my humble opinion. Such behaviour is spineless and immoral. You can't order people around after you are dead. The life does not function like that.

Girl with a Hat said…
Do you have a link to that article by any chance? I checked today Telegraph and couldn't find it. Thank you.
re The reports about the King's wishes for his funeral - my guess is that he'd hope that it might be possible for H to be there be there and the Press strengthened `wish' into `command' . Unless it's something specified
in a Will, there's no law that says the wishes of the Departed have to be obeyed.
The article about His Majesty's funeral was in the Telegraph 27 June 2025 by Victoria Ward: "Prince Harry and Meghan at heart of King's funeral plans"

I could read it because for me it was free but I can't open it any more because I am not a subscriber.

OKay said…
I don't believe The King has issued any such directives. Victoria Ward just needs something to write about.
Try this rumour-testing site:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/king-charles-pancreatic-cancer/
abbyh said…
Well a lot of any of the royals (senior or not) have long standing funeral plans which get tweaked every once in a while.

I mean, they didn't just think up what the Queen's should be after she passed. I don't think of In Touch as really a real UK mag so this comes off as they are suddenly needing to put this together because he has cancer.

That might work though for people who don't know a lot about the UK, have no knowledge of the planning which goes into any royal funeral but like the idea of the royals and sad he has cancer.
Magatha Mistie said…

I googled ‘the Kings funeral Victoria Ward’
The article immediately popped up on Reddit
Basically saying:
the King is hopeful he will reunite
with haz and has factored the Sussexes into the heart of his funeral plans
BP said plans have not been finalised
and cautioned against speculation


Magatha Mistie said…

Dis-invited

The King I’m sure
would like to decree
Haz can attend
without me me me
Royal protocol
doesn’t work like that
Convention edicts
must invite the twat…

Magatha Mistie said…

@Ian’s Girl
Thank you
Hope I give you a little respite
from caring for your mum X

Magatha Mistie said…

GWAH & Maneki
Cheers, I’ll keep going if you do 😉

Maneki Neko said…
Magatha, thank you for bravely soldiering on. I must say I am bored with *, as are most people probably. Maybe I need to 'elevate' my life and bring joy into it by sprinkling petals over my meals 😁
Maneki Neko said…
I've just noticed this

Amber Exposé

Prince Harry FINALLY Says Meghan Markle LIED About Pregnancy and HIRED a Surrogate

https://youtu.be/yYak2IAULQE?si=JCyU5n7yhsDlBH9p

Is this a reliable source?? I haven't watched the video or read the transcript yet.



Maneki Neko said…
I've just noticed this

Amber Exposé

Prince Harry FINALLY Says Meghan Markle LIED About Pregnancy and HIRED a Surrogate

https://youtu.be/yYak2IAULQE?si=JCyU5n7yhsDlBH9p

Is this a reliable source?? I haven't watched the video or read the transcript yet.



I'm surprised that DT published Ward's assertion - it really does look no more solid than that.

Well said, Magatha, Maneki & GWAH
As for me, wild boar fight to the death. (Medieval boar spears had a cross-piece behind the blade to prevent a skewered animal , thrashing about and slashing with its tusks, wriggling up the shaft to get at the hunter.)
The boar was a powerful symbol for both the Ancient Brits and the Anglo- Saxons and I suppose it's my totem animal -you can keep your owls, frogs and pussy cats.
I'm hanging on here for as long as it takes for their complete downfall, even if I have to make it to a 100 or beyond , or die in the attempt!
Girl with a Hat said…
Over at CDAN, there are rumours that she wanted to go to Texas to comfort the bereaved along with boxes of her As Ever crepe mix.
I believe it.
The mystery of why she's called `Fat Markle' on CDAN appears to have been solved - I don't think I've seen this clip before, from the infamous Myhew visit:
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2025/06/blind-item-7_01203582534.html
It's at 1:11, when someone comments about the Bump.
Hilarity all round .
The first dog introduced to her doesn't want to know, then she repeatedly mauls the ears of further dogs. Doesn't offer a single chest-scratch and she'd have us believe she's a dog-lover. Still, it reminds me of the way she `loves' her kids.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Board

Like you, I'm hanging on in there until their grim end. Mind you, she's been on the way down since they left England and there's no way they can be rehabilitated, particularly Mrs Sussex.
@Maneki Neko
re Amber Exposé
I too have been wondering about this site but hesitated to draw attention to it. It's come up with some zingers but I've no idea if if it's just wishful thinking or speculation. Most of it is what we've thought or suspected for a very long time and, despite the title, I didn't hear anything about Harry saying something incriminating.

There aren' t just `guidelines' about legitimacy and the LoS - it's the Law and it has been for a very long time, no ifs, buts or maybes. It's perfectly clear - without verification of a `birth of the body' by pre-approved witnesses (ie the appointed doctors), the children are not in the LoS. The Law may date from the 17thC but it still holds good - it was designed to deal with the threat of `usurping babies' introduced by sleight of hand and deception.

Is it really the `worst thing to happen to the monarchy in a century'? I don't think so. The Abdication crisis of 1936 had no precedent and it involved a king and our relationship with a hostile regime elsewhere, plus a second-in-line about whom there were grave doubts. These two may be deeply disturbed mentally but they are not needed when push comes to shove and i think the majority of the King's subject would be delighted to see the back of them once and for all.

Harry should have paid attention during history classes at school...
INteresting article here from DM - not behind paywall, apparently -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14796917/Royal-proved-compromises-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-never-work.html

It relates the story of how Edward screwed up when involved with a film company during William's university days. He got a Right Royal Bollocking
from his eldest brother - it's reported that Charles could be heard on the phone, giving him a piece of his mind, from outside the room.
There are more and more stories in the papers and internet about mrs sussex and her disgusting lack of any manners. She is so vulgar, so vulgar and I find it difficult to understand how Harry did not see it during their "romance". She is exactly that sort of a person of whom one wants to use the term "not house-trained" even if it so horrible crude and that makes it so shocking.

But the truth is she doesn't care as long as she gets her face in the papers. And she does not give a damn what she is doing to her children!!

So vulgar and so cheap.

And another unspeakable moron without any manners is the president of la Republique Francaise who is incapable to rise a toast without ridiculous dirty looks on his face when looking the Princess of Wales. I do not wonder that Brigitte Macron did not smile or look at her husband once during that evening.

That is the best France have to offer in a diplomatic evening???

@alianor d'aquitaine
`Not house-trained' - the perfect descriptor. I look forward to the time when all the dirty secrets buried in her litter tray are emptied out for all to see.!
Speculation on SMM about where H might be housed if he were able to return to the fold:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1lvx8c2/if_harry_ever_divorces_meghan_would_his_uncle/

I think rather that he's more likely be a `guest' somewhere `at His Majesty's pleasure', following a treason trial, if William has anything to do with it. Or, if he's deemed to be legally incompetent, at some other premises where he has enough publicly funded security to keep him happy.
Girl with a Hat said…
To him, it was a feature, not a problem. He knew it would irritate his family.
The baroness is filming with Gavin Newsom for an episode in With love, this one's wife! And they seem to have some problems on the set. I just could not help laughing the story was so hilarious.

Youtuber Mike Zeroh Wednesday 9 July.

Magatha Mistie said…

Bourgeois Nouveau

Fancy packaged molasses
Rosé tainted cracked glasses
Muskrat grapes
pounded by big foot
Bottled bunions no appeal
Nor her
hand grown crushed cochineal
Can help her fomented
brute de brut…


Magatha Mistie said…

Nanasty

Acidic acerbic
a hoary blown rose
Failing actress
not quite quite*
yoga pose
Downward dog
with leg half cocked
Suffice to say
haz was focked…


*Someone not out of the top drawer




Girl with a Hat said…
We haven't heard much about her doing yoga since the wedding. Maybe she should take it up once again. It might calm her down.
And, we haven't heard from Doria in a dog's age. I wonder what she's up to and if they're still on speaking terms.
Today's Mike Zeroh piece. The baroness is stealing and is drunk on the set of With love, herself.

She is angry that the producers force her enjoy non alcohol wine just to be able to film anything.

Maybe the Royal House could remove her and her husband from their official site.

abbyh said…
You know what we have not heard about in a long time: the whole business of offering counseling, support groups since a bunch of companies which link up in Delaware as a base was announced. It takes a chunk of money to do a set up like that. I seem to remember a lot of speculation of how Doria would be heading it up because of her knowledge and schooling (although I seem to remember some questions about how complete that was).

In Battle of Brothers (p 318) some of what was to potentially be offered under the Royal Sussex trademark name was to offer counseling services, personal care, support groups and mentoring.
Girl with a Hat said…
Wasn't there also something about help to seniors or something similar?
@abbyh
Your comment might, just might, spur me to heave another go at reading `Battle of the Brothers' (borrowed from the public library.
I didn't get very far with it - disliked Lacey's snide tone and inability to apply critical thinking.
abbyh said…
it was an interesting book. I felt every once in a while something was mentioned I hadn't known which seemed to totally change how the situation could be perceived. Not being in the UK, my daily knowledge of the BRF history can be really spotty. I apologize.

I had always written off the whole Nazi uniform as just a bad decision on his part and that his brother had not really been part of it (if at all), but apparently one of the issues was that he faced the whole uproar and his brother skated away. That was a bite. I had been thinking that it was some attempt to throw something at people who were bound by the never complain/explain.

Also that the two brothers had been (at some point) in the same rooming area to make security easier on security. What I remember from his book was more about how his brother didn't really give him the time of day.

I could be wrong but I seem to remember something also that he had repeated a year (don't remember reading that before) so that his friends were in different levels, then the you are linked here with your brother, you have to live near enough to each other and that was a bit lonely combined with the fish out of water for the focus on education/what was expected by the school to produce in the student, trailing after the perfect big brother and then feeling that his brother would have nothing to do with him.

Add in that his brother got to go have tea with Granny as PW was on the monarchy track while he was not ... may or may not have been a factor.

It has been a while since I read it and, unless I am documenting for some reason, I try to remember things but I also know I can be wrong. Sorry (again).

'The Crown' re-creates Prince Harry's Nazi costume party scandal. What happened, and what has he said about it?
https://www.today.com/popculture/prince-harry-nazi-costume-controversy-rcna129075

This seems a fairly balanced report, although I wonder when exactly it was written. If it is to be believed, it shows an entirely different personality to the one we see today.
I'm not sure how to put this but British attitudes towards the Afrika Korps are somewhat nuanced. I think the Wikipedia entry on Rommel covers it quite well:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Rommel
I looked for an image of the Afrika Korps uniform but this stopped me in my tracks:
https://combatminiatures.org/products/world-war-2-german-afrika-korp-flag-water-slide-decal
Remind you of anything?

BTW, should you ever visit a medieval English church and see a swastika at the bottom of a really old stained-glass window, don't panic! It was used in the ancient, widespread, way as a beneficent symbol, long before the Nazis appropriated it and turned it to evil.

PS. The brothers were 2 years apart at Eton. I think it would be most unusual for any boy to be seen to be dependent on his older brother in an English public school (ie an independent one, not `public' in the American sense!)
OKay said…
I'm sure it was absolutely unfair and difficult for Harry at times - I watched my brothers get privileges I did not, merely by virtue of their gender, and they certainly won't ever be King. However, life is not fair, and I learned pretty early on to make my own way and to bask in my own accomplishments. Frankly, I'm better off than my siblings are. Harry could have accomplished much, if he had simply made that choice. However, there is almost certainly some truth to the idea that he is intellectually limited, and his mother did not make things better for him by trying to tell him he was in fact equal to William.
Girl with a Hat said…
I suppose you've all seen the story about the talks between the *'s spokespeople and the King's.
The Sussexes already leaked the meeting to the press. Not a smart move.

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